Tough game
I really thought the Seahawks were gonna lose. The Vikings put up a good fight but it just wasn’t enough. Only a handful of games on the ice yesterday. Your winners were Buffalo, Vegas, NYI, St Louis and Anaheim. And on the hardcourt, the ACC/Big Ten thingy got into gear as Minnesoooooda took out Clemson (oh, if only this was football) and Miami knocked off Illinois. More on tap tonight including a couple of biggies.
Back when he spoke intelligibly
Those notables born on this day include infinity symbol guy John Wallis, General George McClellan, novelist Joseph Conrad, college basketball coaching great Fred Taylor, rocker Ozzy Osbourne, faith healing conman Benny Hinn, actress Julianne Moore, human statue Terry Schiavo, sexy skater Katarina Witt, and ageless actor Brendan Fraser.
OK, on to…the links!
Jimmy Carter doesn’t have much time left. At least that’s my guess. I could be wrong and he could go all RBG and stay alive for years.
The Chicago Machine eats one of its own. I wonder what stupid thing the mayor did to burn this trump card. That’s what it usually is when an expendable is cast aside with such fanfare. Everybody knows this dumbshit should have been fired at least a month ago. Lightfoot kept him around just for this.
It’s always the paper trail
Prince Andrew might end up in the Tower of London. Or he may commit Arkancide. Either way, shit’s looking worse for him.
And it looks like they only winged him. Which is about the level of accuracy I’d expect. But still…this is why schools need to allow for armed personnel.
Oh man, they didn’t think this one through. Also, I guess they don’t care about far-left extremism. Otherwise they’d be placing an urn about 10x that size in front of the CCP’s offices in Bejing.
Canada susceptibility to cyber attacks goes up 1000%. US’s drops 10%.
OK, enjoy this. I know some of you will and some won’t. But I’m fine with that.
Now go have a greatly, friends!
Jimmy Carter doesn’t have much time left. At least that’s my guess. I could be wrong and he could go all RBG and stay alive for years.
I guess the death pool odds are dropping fast
I don’t know. I bet they make a Deadpool 3.
I’m not sure… I mean that’s under Disney now.
…….shit.
There’s a chance, I mean it took a couple of movies for them to shit up Star Wars. The MCU made it through the recent wave without too many problems. The coming slate of movies doesn’t look promising though.
I’ve been watching the mandalorian with the wife. So far so good 4 episodes in.
I tapped out after the Last Jedi. I made it through Lucas’ terrible fscking prequels, and the Last Jedi is what finally made me nope out. The girlfriend has been watching the Mandalorian, but I haven’t watched it yet.
I don’t like the new Ray storyline, but I liked rogue one. I only checked out the mando because we get disney+ for free. I get walking away though.
You are have a strong stomach Neph. After paying to see and hear Jar Jar Binks,I was done. I swore that franchise would never get another penny from me.
I was done with The Force Awakens, a.k.a. A Woke Hope. I did watch Rogue One (not bad) and Solo (pretty bad) out of the theaters, and The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker will not get a cent from me.
I didn’t even manage to finish watching Last Jedi.
It was terrible. I really hope the wife doesn’t demand to see the rise of skywalker.
I read (I think it was linked here) a huge long form criticism of Last Jedi that tore it to pieces. Not just for the unexpected new powers, nor the change to hyperspace, but the terrible plotting and character changes. The problem in trying to find it again is Google returns more results talking about the “toxic fanbase” then going to the criticisms.
Disney owns Dirty Harry now?
Jim Carrey’s best role.
Prince Andrew might end up in the Tower of London. Or he may commit Arkancide. Either way, shit’s looking worse for him.
What is the point of even being Prince if not to bang underage hotties ? Imagine an older Henry or Edward being in hot water for such a trifle
Andrew is doing it wrong. Declaring prima nocte at a wedding rehearsal is the historical way to go.
Ignoring consent issues, is the fact that she was 17 a problem? Where did this take place? Age of consent is less than 18 most places.
Not if it is payed for
It is always paid for
I don’t think she’s claiming statutory rape but, to use Whoopi’s words, rape-rape. For all three times she willingly kept going back to the place.
She was “just” seventeen. Reminds me of a Beatles song. Everyone knows you’re an innocent waif until you hit 30-40 and your parents die and leave you their house that you’ve been living in the basement of, the whole time. Doesn’t matter that she was paid a bunch of cash, traveled the world in private jets and hung out in top level mansions, eating the finest foods and voluntarily kept coming back.
I quasi-agree. It’s not “rape-rape” if she kept going back, but at the same time I’m not sure 17 year olds are mature enough to make that decision.
They are almost certainly not mature enough to make that decision wisely. On the other hand the way you acquire the ability to make decisions wisely is by making them unwisely and paying attention to the results.
Very true. Also another reason I’m glad I don’t have kids. Especially daughters.
They’re still not mature enough at 30-40. Her long lasting damage from all of this is that she has a taste for the high life. The only reasonable restitution is a huge chunk of money. If she’d have not had the “misfortune” of meeting a bazillionaire, she’d just have to forget the whole thing and go on with her life, but since her “rapist pedophile” was rich, she might just squeeze some more champagne and caviar out of it.
And, anyway, she is considered old enough to join the army and go get killed in some shithole. She can drive around in a two ton death missile while texting her friends, she’s a few months shy of being a full fledged adult with no supervision needed. I’d feel differently if she was 14-15, but 17 is plenty old enough to know better and if she didn’t, her parents failed her badly but I still don’t see a crime on Andrew’s part (excepting the stupidity of getting caught for that.
I didn’t mean to imply a crime, just musing on the morality of seducing 17 year olds.
He didn’t seduce her. He paid someone else to have sex with her.
Money is very seductive.
Yeah, I don’t get it either. 17 y/o girls are mostly annoying to me, at least when they talk. Epstien was facing some crazy amount of decades in prison before he got an early release for having dirt on the Clinton’s. This broad, however, is just a whore who wants to retroactively haggle over the price.
I have no knowledge of their particulars….
But I live in south Florida, and I see this playing out all of the time. There are a lot of dudes with a big pile of cash running around down here. And younger women love to be taken around by them. They go to fancy dinners, get taken on the yacht, and they have sex with guys that they wouldn’t have sex with if they weren’t loaded.
They do not appear to think of it as being taken advantage of. Nor do they seem to think they are taking advantage of the men – at least not at first. But eventually the ones that keep doing it become pretty sanguine with what they are doing – they want gifts, rent paid, travel – and they are willing to be hot and allow a certain amount of sex in exchange. As far as I know they don’t explicitly say “if you buy me stuff I’ll have sex with you” and the guys never say “I’m gonna lease a car for you, but only if you have sex with me”. But that is what it becomes.
By the time they are nearing 30, it is pretty straightforward. You see them cruising for 50 year old rich dudes, not even bothering to pretend that they are doing anything other than cruising for 50 year old rich dudes.
So my experience tells me that the girls who flew on private jets and hobnobbed with the rich, famous and powerful men did so because they wanted to at the time. They were having a blast… maybe they privately laughed with each other about how “gross” that politician was, but in the moment they are having fun being the center of attention and getting to do all the exciting rich-people stuff.
Look at Monica Lewinski. She still maintains that she’s happy with their relationship – despite its decidedly one-sided and to all outside observers exploitative nature.
Such women let you grab them by the pussy.
Get treated to McDonald’s, drivin’ around in an uber and paid in bit coin over silk road and the guy is looking at real time.
Canada susceptibility to cyber attacks goes up 1000%. US’s drops 10%.
Look it is a private company with no links to the Chinese government okay ?
Don’t worry, they’re an IT company, nothing to do with the water.
Oh man, they didn’t think this one through. Also, I guess they don’t care about far-left extremism. Otherwise they’d be placing an urn abut 10x that size in front of the CCP’s offices. in Bejing.
I find it the whole antisemitism issue the labor party of merry olde England entertaining, presumably because I am not Jewish
I find it entertaining and I *am* Jewish.
All they had to do to win was cast Corbyn and the anti-semites of the party leadership aside a year ago and they’d have won handily. Now it looks as if they will get smoked.
Let’s hope so.
“It didn’t last very long, the whole entire procedure. It was disgusting. Um, he wasn’t mean or anything, but he got up and he said, ‘thanks,’ and walked out. And I sat there in bed just horrified and ashamed,”
Hope he rolled out the red carpet for ya.
Maybe she rolled out the red carpet and they all had a bloody good time?
She was not unresponsive?
It sounds like no noncombatants were shot. Impressive, in its way.
Three shots, at a short range, and all they managed was a minor injury?
Nope, still embarrassing. You shoot at someone pointing a gun at you from across the room and they survive, you’re either an idiot or a bad shot.
Thicc?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7749085/British-Fashion-Awards-2019-Kaia-Gerber-showcases-figure-TINY-black-bralet.html
thicc
thicc
I’ve been holding out on you all, but it’s the Christmas Season so imma share
Yes, thicc.
Snapchat: Get it on my Patreon
Well, that’s it, good knowing y’all. I’m stepping into an alternate universe where the internet never exists.
No, not thicc.
Oh man, they didn’t think this one through. Also, I guess they don’t care about far-left extremism. Otherwise they’d be placing an urn abut 10x that size in front of the CCP’s offices. in Bejing-
Well Snopes says Hitler is far right because the socialist say national socialist weren’t real socialist so they get to smear the right with it, even thought hitler was vocally anti-capitalism.
It is about hierarchy or something
Sounds like something a far-right extremist would say. You probably like free markets too, don’t you, shitlord?
You probably like free markets too, don’t you, shitlord?-
Dunno. Never seen one.
“Well Snopes says Hitler is far right because the socialist say national socialist weren’t real socialist”
They just said that to get the workers along. I mean they hated the USSR. But socialism and Communism are totally different.
In one case government colludes with the businesses they like to pick winners & losers, thus lording it over the serfs, and in the other the people in charge just lord it over the serfs. I have told people consistently that after the Cold War ended, fascism won. The system we have the left pushing for today is one where we drop the fascism-light that the end of the Cold War spawned and go full blown into camps and such for the non-believers and kulaks & wreckers.
Well Snopes says Hitler is far right because the socialist say national socialist weren’t real socialist so they get to smear the right with it, even thought hitler was vocally anti-capitalism.
They can get away with it in part because the right wing parties did open the door for the Nazis (by entering into coalition with them), but the Nazis themselves were not really right-wing – not only did they hate capitalism, they had no real respect for the traditional institutions (church and monarchy) of the German nation. Franco’s fascists were right wing, but Mussolini and Hitler were playing to the center.
Andrew. Isn’t he the Queen’s favourite?
Did you watch the BBC interview? It’s like he was coached on how to look like a perv trying to cover something up. It’s unreal.
Jerry Sanduskyesque.
In honor of Ozzy’s birthday. As many of those pigs around today as there were back in the day.
Nice choice.
War, what is it good for?
A bit late but I wanted to 2 degrees humblebrag about my dad meeting Ozzy and seeing Sabbath back when they were just a (too) local band.
I could be wrong and he could go all RBG
You mean he’s already been dead for awhile?
I swear, the whole RBG thing feels like Bicentennial Man going in reverse.
God, that was a terrible movie. Just terrible.
I never bought a clock builder making more than a roboticist.
I don’t trust any leftist who thinks that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is something to base any of our politics on. Even putting aside issues with the framework of human rights, it’s a document put out by the UN, not exactly an organization friendly to us.
https://twitter.com/deathpigeon/status/1201240728204169216
THREAD
When you are so far left that the Universal Declaration seems right wing you may have issues.
Article 23.
(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.
Article 24.
Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.
Article 25.
(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.
Everyone has a right to provide these things to other without recompense, under penalty of struggle sessions.
So they are peddling slavery again?
If 23(1-3) are guaranteed by da gubmint, 23(4) is unnecessary.
“Reasonable” & “periodic” in 24 are stupidly vague.
Generally, I take that the term “right”, as applied here, means the government will provide these things for you rather than meaning that the govt should not impede your pursuit of them.
25(2). Bullshit. The parents are entitled to tending to the family they created.
Doesn’t matter that she was paid a bunch of cash, traveled the world in private jets and hung out in top level mansions, eating the finest foods and voluntarily kept coming back.
Whaaaaa? She was a slave. A slave, I say.
Trudeau is a stupid dumb China loving fuck.
But he’s so dreamy
‘This….is Tyler…’
Fuck Tyler.
What the muppet said!
Good morning, Sloop!
And good morning to all of you far-right extremists!
The Prince Andrew story is getting funnier by the day. Seriously, the last embarrassment to the Crown died in a car crash. What will it be for Andy? Drowning? Mysterious illness? Climbing accident?
Only the Queen knows for sure.
I do actually like the song. Great memories!
Have a fantastic day, y’all!
The battered field of social psychology suffers another serious blow: Seminal study that lay the groundwork for the weighty Moral Foundations Hypothesis about differences between liberals and conservatives largely fails to replicate
https://twitter.com/DegenRolf/status/1199966932348362752
My entire worldview is shaken to its foundation.
While moral foundations hypo passes the smell test, durable differences between Democrat and Republican doesn’t. Maybe because I was raised by nature-sanctifying hippies, or maybe because I know about Hotelling’s law.
The teevee is on in the background, with a biography of history’s greatest monster:
Henry Ford.
Fucking liberal/progressive historians really really hate that guy. He bought out all his shareholders so he could run the company as a dictatorship. If he wanted to do something, he just did it.
The people should get a vote in the running of companies
That’s what the leaders in the USSR told everyone. Except the companies were all being run into the ground by people that could give a flying shit considering they were treated just a little bit better than serfs were/are.
That sonofabitch figured out how to do two horrible things:
1) Make cars that any working man could afford
2) Give everyone working on his line a decent hourly rate
They’ll never forgive him.
I read recently that the reason he raised wages is because average worker tenure before that was about 3-4 months. Raising wages was the only only way he could get workers to stick around long enough to become productive.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that either of these were for anyone’s benefit but his.
No, but that’s often what you hear when certain people are advocating for living wages: “Look at Henry Ford! He was such a visionary to give his workers a living wage so they could afford his cars!” Instead of acknowledging that a rational profit-based analysis can produce good outcomes (defined as outcomes certain people approve of), they like to pretend that he was just an altruist at heart. At least sometimes.
Henry Ford WAS a Progressive. They just hate him because, unlike most of them, he actually got to play dictator.
Innovation Cities™ Index 2019 : Global
https://www.innovation-cities.com/index-2019-global-city-rankings/18842/
Bucharest dropped 14 places…
Also the 2018 PISA are in and Romania is unhappy cause the scores are going down
China spies on social media conversations. Then they bring dissidents in for a real-life chat.
People I know were trying to share this on facebook and having issues 🤔
England and Germany are drooling.
Also
In Xinjiang, Chinese police are using the blood and faces of an oppressed minority to craft dystopian technologies that may not even work. For years, they’ve been publishing their findings in respected international journals
https://twitter.com/paulmozur/status/1201788928270819329
Who would film that and why would it be leaked?
Definitely could be faked. Definitely could be real. You never know with Chicoms.
It appears to only be three people in the room. It wouldn’t be too hard for the upper management to figure out who leaked that film. I’m not saying it’s fake, I just would like more information.
I’m leaning towards faked. Doesn’t mean that the police aren’t doing that or much worse. It would be way to easy to find who leaked that.
No doubt it could be real. Ask Freddie Gray about Nickel Rides.
What good is intimidating 1 person when you can disseminate a recording of it and intimidate an entire population?
+1 Struggle Session
In Appeal to Hard Left, Bloomberg Praises Chinese Communism
It’s what everyone on the left is aspiring too. Whether it’s fake or not, their fantasy is to have all of us chained to those chairs without a lawyer or any rights.
I thought for sure that was going to be a Babylon Bee link.
Fuck.
Looking at British succession: Archie Mountbatten-Windsor is 7th in line. Just a few fluke deaths and an American citizen could be King.
That is presuming the queen dies. Does not seem imminent.
There was an old joke about a old woman asked if she feel close to death, she said she is waiting for her kids to dies first so they are not saddened by her death.
Bring on King Ralph!
HIs mother shouldn’t be an American citizen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titles_of_Nobility_Amendment
I don’t believe she has received any titles, they’re held by her husband.
If they did, poor Jamie Lee Curtis.
Wait….so The Duke of New York is not A #1???
If I were asian I would have started a band called Europe.
Ummm….https://youtu.be/9jK-NcRmVcw
That’s not a band with all asian guys.
The Swedes might have a problem with that.
Ha, too slow.
Name the geography bands:
Kansas
Europe
Asia
Japan
Boston
Florida Georgia Line
Chicago
America?
Berlin
Nashville Pussy.
Kentucky Headhunters
New York Dolls
Nazareth
Alabama
Alabama Shakes
Alabama Thunder Pussy
Also, Alabama 3 who done did The Sopranos theme tune?
‘bama is pretty popular for band names.
There is/was a band called Texas, but they were Scottish (iirc), and terrible.
Oh dang I forgot Little Texas, who recorded this anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbH60wCO-Yw
Georgia Satellites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMFMf9cN64U
Black Oak Arkansas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJXM-ssg2Hg
Dedicated to Pope Jim
boDandyBerlin
Take My Breathe Away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx51eegLTY8
Miami Sound Machine
Ohio Players
Champaign
Chilliwack
Trans Siberian Orchestra
A.S.I.A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIkx06GQPAo
Wait. Wouldn’t masturbation rub off the hair on the right palm (or left if you’re sinister), resulting in hair only in the other palm?
Some government entity should trhow a few million at someone to test out this hypothesis…
Doesn’t seem to have any effect on the hairs on the dick side of the process.
Depends on how vigorous you are. But it seems to me that hairy palms would be advantageous, assuming it’s nice, smooth fur.
Difference in weather between two sides of the mountain
https://twitter.com/NaturelsLit/status/1201328585664913408
Camera trick, this is what they were crossing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altenalp_T%C3%BCrm. Doesn’t look as scary without the fish eye. Still a no from me.
It was disgusting.
Only if you’re doing it right.
“She had the small green avocado on her left tricep replaced with a large rose by celebrity tattoo artist Nico Bassill.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7750713/Miley-Cyrus-shows-new-skeleton-tattoo-left-bicep.html
The avocado was her best tattoo.
Whimsical
The U.S. government on Monday said it may slap punitive duties of up to 100% on $2.4 billion in imports from France of Champagne, handbags, cheese and other products, after concluding that France’s new digital services tax would harm U.S. tech companies.
The U.S. Trade Representative’s office said its “Section 301” investigation found that the French tax was “inconsistent with prevailing principles of international tax policy, and is unusually burdensome for affected U.S. companies,” including Alphabet’s Google, Facebook, Apple and Amazon.com.
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The findings won favor from U.S. lawmakers and U.S. tech industry groups, who have long argued that the tax unfairly targets U.S firms.
“The French digital services tax is unreasonable, protectionist and discriminatory,” Senators Charles Grassley and Ron Wyden, the top Republican and Democrat, respectively, on the Senate Finance Committee, said in a joint statement.
Spokespeople for the French embassy and the European Union delegation in Washington could not immediately be reached for comment.
But prior to the release of the USTR’s report, a French official said that France would dispute the trade agency’s findings, repeating Paris’ contention that the digital tax is not aimed specifically at U.S. technology companies.
“We will not give up on taxation” of digital firms, the official said..
Trump just randomly throws out tariffs, in an effort to destroy the world economy.
Oh noes!!!!
That evil Trump, driving up the cost of my Mimolette.
Fuck the French anyway. What happened to the yellowjackets? I haven’t heard much about them lately.
“Wolfgang Van Halen defends Billie Eilish after she was shamed for not knowing legendary rock band”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7749831/Wolfgang-Van-Halen-defends-Billie-Eilish-shamed-not-knowing-legendary-rock-band.html
She never heard of Run-DMC either?
What’s a Billie Eilish?
Some of the nonsense kids these days are into I presume
Following the Lorde model, the record moguls have figured out that if they put their money and bigtime producers behind some teenage girls and market them as creative geniuses with insight far beyond their years, that the public will eat it up and the press will rush to signal how “profound” it all is, and how they are “speaking truth to power” or something. I’m not saying these artists are completely without merit. I mean, you can’t make an omelette without an egg (but almost in this case. It’s that the marketing machine can *almost* make something out of nothing given the scale of their mechanisms.
That wasn’t expressed very articulately. In short, she is an omelette.
Why do you hate Randy Marsh?
I don’t tek kaanndly to pitch correction
I prefer the model where they bring back the balls to rock. They call it the Lordi model.
Well, it’s tricky…
Special guest appearance by a formerly fat, former libertarian.
Sometimes I forgot how much hip-hop has changed.
Not for the better
I was sharing some Doug E. Fresh (live) with the kids on the way to school yesterday – to teach them the roots of hip-hop and rap.
Doug E. was pretty horrible live.
It’s apparent that Wolfgang likes cake.
It happens. I didn’t know a lot at that age but then again….we knew a lot of shit. We knew, for example, who Miles Davis was.
That’s my problem with the kids of today. They literally have every bit of history and information at their finger tips yet seem woefully ignorant or disinterested in learning or acquiring knowledge. It’s nuts really. Their heads are buried in those stupid phones and yet manage to not learn squat.
No wonder socialism is on the rise.
She also didn’t know Huey Lewis. The band is STILL FRICKEN TOURING. By the way, very under rated in my view. ‘Sports’ is a fantastic album.
Anyway. They’re so into themselves they forget to explore. Ironic, given how much they travel.
By the way, very under rated in my view. ‘Sports’ is a fantastic album.
Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when Sports came out in ’83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He’s been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Ha.
Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in ’83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He’s been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.
Don’t you have to return some videotapes?
I’m upset I forgot about that scene in my original posting.
Should they get off your lawn while you whittle in your rocking chair?
/points shot gun.
KEEP WALKING FELLA.
If my nephew read one line in the post, he’d be very upset with me.
Lol. We have these talks all the time.
https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/1201631105486671872
I like both Van Halen and Billie Eilish.
https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/1201641681470328833
Never heard of her, but it’s peak Gen X to think everyone should know their favorite band.
Yeah, when people are 18, how many bands are they familiar with that peaked before they were born?
Plenty, if they are raised right.
When I was 18 in 1980, I was familiar with approximately zero bands who peaked in the ’50s. And I think that is true for everybody I knew, and likely the vast, vast majority of my peers.
Were we all raised wrong?
Yes. Sorry.
It would explain a lot, now that I think about it.
Yeah, Van Halen’s greatest work was in 1977. They peaked in the 80’s. That’s over 30 years ago. Their parents were too young for Van Halen.
For me that’s like asking about music from the late 40’s, early 50’s. Even my parents didn’t listen to that stuff. They liked 50’s do-wop and rock, and 60’s pop and rock music. So I was well familiar with Elvis, the Beatles, Simon and Garfunkel, etc. Not so much Perry Como and Frankie Laine
In the 90’s when I was a teen, we listened to as much Rush, Doors, Led Zep, Ramones and Black Sabbath as we did Pearl Jam, Nirvana, The Toadies, etc.
But did you listen to Ricky Nelson, Bobby Darin and Johnny Mathis? Because she’s a 17 year old pop artist, not a metal head.
And the answer for me is “no, I didn’t listen to that crap at all”. Heck, I avoided pop music of my own era. As close as I got was rock ballads. Holy crap, did the rock ballad take over that genre during the late 70’s/early 80’s.
No. Me personally, I was pretty well versed in my Dad’s collection of 1) psychedelic rock 2) 60’s and 70’s mega-bands and 3) proto-metal (which has a lot of overlap with 1 and 2). Throw in a little cowboy country and singer-songwriter stuff, too.