Day 9: Sloopy introduced the girls to The Brady Bunch, I spent an entire morning listening to it while working. Pray for Banjos.
Me welcoming death after listening to the third Brady Bunch episode.
Senate GOP unveils their plan to rain cash on the country, $1200 per individual plus $500 per kid. Anyone making $100,000 and over is out (families making $150,000 or more our out). Based on last taxes filed (if you didn’t file your 2019 yet, then the limits are based on your 2018).
Trump ok with forbidding stock buybacks from companies that receive bailouts.
Commonly used malaria drug new hope for combating Tom Hanks Disease (THD).
Newsom issues “stay at home” order for residents.
Trump eyeing draconian measures.
Senators Burr and Loeffler in deep shit.
Italy’s deaths surpasses China.
Corporations have spent 1.3 billion to assist in fighting Tom Hanks Disease.
Taliban regrets murdering healthcare workers.
Las Vegas strip club leading the way for innovation.
That’s all I got for today. I’ll leave you with a song and move along with my day. Good luck my Glib friends in these crazy times.
In the event of a state or federal “shelter in place” order I will be getting myself arrested as an act of civil disobedience just on principle.
Just say you were out to do some robbing, didn’t CA say they weren’t going to arrest for those crimes?
“Heh, he thinks we care. We got an open shoot to kill order.”
*blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**reload**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam**blam*
/cue up apartment scene from Pulp Fiction (knowing the accuracy of cops).
Dogs hardest hit?
This is exactly why I am worried about such an order. I too hope that I have the guts to go get arrested if our governor goes full Boston Strong.
Yeah, I have been in Minnesoda with my girlfriend now for close to a month because her mom passed and I wanted to give her some support/comfort, and now seem to need to stay here for another month, but I am not going to get locked inside either. If you hear someone running around blasting and screaming “Fuck you slavers!”, that’s prolly me.
If you need a respite, Alex, talk to Tundra/Pope/Leap or me and they will direct you up to a relaxing spot in the woods.
No way! That relaxing spot is where I shit. And it won’t be relaxing anymore if Alex is out there going full Chuck Berry on me while I’m copping a squat.
DON’T DO IT ALEX! IT’S STEVE SMITH’S LOVE CABIN!!!!
^^^THIS^^^
I have been reading the reports of STEVE SMITH attacks. Especially in Edina and Duluth…
Uffda. STEVE SMITH is way too cool (and poor and unconnected) to be caught dead in Edina (fucking cake eaters!). Dulute on the other hand has enough Iron Range escapees to make life interesting. Is it RAPE when the Ranger is into it?
I do have to admit that Edina is some seriously rich country. My girl, now no longer just dropping hints that I should leave the People’s Republic of Connecticut and move out here, but actually researching buying houses, showed me a few, and a couple of the high end ones were in Edina. I have been playing dumb so far, cause this playing house thing is fun as long as I know I can exit stage left if the shitshow goes south. I do have to say that she got me when she responded to me pointing out that I not only would have to sell in a down market in CT, but would have to kick out my kid that rents a room from me, with an open invitation for us to buy a bigger place and have him move out here too…
I am gonna need a few drinks…
WTF? You are in the Brainpower State and you haven’t asked any of us natives to go out for a beer? Sure we might have to just sit around a parking lot at a state approved distance by now, but still….
Girlfriend is monopolizing my time. When not working from home, she wants me to provide her with tender love & care. I think she finally might be getting
soreenough of that and wouldn’t mind me seeing some people, but now they go bonkers and close down the bars & congregating places. Lucky for me I bought 5 gallon bottles of Jim Beam the other day for me (and a couple of cases of white wine for her) and I will be OK for the next week or so.Will work out something to meet up if things become less crazy and I can convince her I will not come back covered in Chinese viruses.
You can ping me at pope AT jimbo.church if you want to meet. I’ll just forward your request to Tundra. He’s the Secretary of Glibs in Minnesoda.
WILCO.
You wouldn’t be in the wrong. The government has totally botched this. Americans will lose their civil rights, the economy is going to in shambles and people will die one way or the other. Government doing what government does best: fuck everybody over in the end.
I don’t believe China’s numbers, so I can’t believe Italy passed them.
China is not only lying about their numbers, to keep the locals from realizing how bad the fact that the totalitarians in charge wanted so badly to hide the disastrous news about this so they could avoid the consequences, and in the process of destroying evidence and pretending all was well, let this thing not just get out of control, but go global, but now has doubled down on sicking the bought & paid for American left to do their dirty work of covering up these facts.
The Chicomms, now more fascists than commies, are desperate to keep the masses obedient and in line, and the net effect of this virus, both physically and economically on the population is currently threatening that agenda. They have decided that rather than admitting they fucked up, and that things are about to get real bad for your average Chinese citizen as their economy slumps/contracts, as foreign entities now bail on that globalization model with China at the center and the people become aware of how many Chinese were impacted by the virus itself, they will double down on the propaganda effort to deflect.
Nothing China or the people beholden to Chinese interest tell you should be taken as anything but a very likely falsehood. And that goes double for the cuntes now arguing that it is racist to call this thing the Chinese or Wuhan virus. They are either the most stupid or most evil people you can think of. Maybe some are both too.
Ultimately the only real difference between Fascists and Communists is the level of veneer of private ownership they allow for
Tulsi is out.
I figured that was the case after seeing my prog hippie neighbor holding another memorial service in his front yard. Weird ass.
So he’s really taking to the whole “no wearing pants on WFH days”, huh?
A memorial service for a candidacy? WTF?
Also, TGA hit hardest, sorry bro.
Dude caught TDS extra hard. He and his wife are caricatures of boomer hippie prog leftists. They parrot the talking points with uncanny accuracy, virtue signal unceasingly, and spread their virulence at the local high school. I’m a little bit worried he may fling himself off the tallest tree stump if Trump gets re-elected.
Ask him why the CDC failed so spectacularly in getting out ahead of this.
I dare you.
Because BAD ORANGE MAN cut some CDC positions back in 2018. Duly acknowledged that Trump’s early denialism didn’t help.
Close.
BOM “gutted” the CDC.
BOM?
BadOrangeMan
I thought it was Bill of Materials.
I have to fill out too many BOMs.
Sorry for the brainfart, I read it as you giving the actual reason as opposed to the guy’s “answer”.
Certainly BHO pushed the CDC’s mission to public health rather than communicable disease. so he’s more likely to have gutted the CDC of its original purpose.
I had one of these dunces blow a gasket when I pointed out that if the CDC had been spending their money & time on pandemic prep – instead of peddling social justice agendas like global warming, abortion on demand, and gun confiscation -that the new organization that was created when bad orange man cut the funding they were using for the SJ warfare and consolidated the redundant and bloated top level of that shitshow, that we would have had far less bullshit. I suspect that had we been in the office I might have had to kill the idiot for actually coming at me.
when did he cut their funding? i thought that was a myth.
The house (which is the entity that deals with spending), cut about $2.7 billion dollars from their budget in 2017. Mind you, this money was cut because the CDC was spending it on anti-gun propaganda, abortion providing at at payer’s expense propaganda, and various other SJW outreach programs. Not a penny of the money cut was going to anything remotely connected to dealing with viral (or any sort of other) diseases or pandemics. In fact, even after the cut, the CDC is flush with cash and pissing away the bulk of that money on anything other than actual preparedness for disease control.
Also, the meme about Trump cutting CDC entities is pure bullshit: he closed down 2 out of three entities doing the same redundant work, and consolidated the responsibility in one place. This was done to cut waste AND improve efficiency. But people peddling we should have the assholes at the DMV running our healthcare see anything like that as anathema. After all, what’s important is giving top men heap big jobs and power, and fuck the consequences.
ah, it’s back up now though. Overall CDC funding has increased under Trump.
I would prefer not to get showered in boomer hippie spittle during these trying times.
Can you share details of what this outdoor ceremony looked like or will we be going straight to one of the SugarFree freak “Wanna Fud?” fests?
Because obviously the most pressing issue in a country lacking basic sanitation and running water outside of the major cities is the 1 in 50,000 chance of catching Tom Hanks Disease
That’s nice for semiretired actors, but what about Wuhan Virus?
Because this doesn’t happen with literally every major industry-disrupting bill in congress.
Apparently Feinstein profited too, but Twitter tried to downplay that.
I am gonna bet money that THEY ALL did this, but we are only hearing abut these 2 idiots for some reason that a crystal ball tells me will happen in November…
Also, in the event of an utterly and completely unconstitutional “shelter in place” order, who precisely would be enforcing the federal mandate? US Marshals Service going to send out a fleet to every village and town? Fuck off with this shit.
Who the fuck thought that the Dead Kennedys would be relevant again?
That song was an important part of the pavement, leading me down the road to being a cranky libertarian. Damn shame Jello became the tedious hippie he was once fighting against.
Speaking of Jello….
Libertarian Moment?
Did you just infer we Glibs are all slime molds?
We got an upgrade?
OBOR is going well…
Go figure. Damn the torpedoes I guess.
I said it yesterday. Italy, while charming, is not a first world country.
5 Things To Know About Italy And The Coronavirus
Still hard to imagine that Italy has more fatalities with only 2/3 as many cases as China, and earlier in the spread of the disease.
And their healthcare system is overwhelmed with about the same number of beds per person as Florida. They have more per capita than the US overall.
None of the numbers from this virus are making sense.
Because the numbers from China are total bullshit
Also, the numbers from every EU country are complete bullshit.
I don’t believe any number that comes from any government.
“Still hard to imagine that Italy has more fatalities with only 2/3 as many cases as China, and earlier in the spread of the disease.”
Talked to a distant relative that lives in Italy, and was told most people that get sick but have no serious symptoms are not bothering going to get tested or seek help, because they know better (that’s the fact that they know how shitty their socialist healthcare system is anyway), so the count of infected in Italy is way off. However, there are tons of older and sickly Italians that all have been exposed to the virus because the population was so lackadaisical about the whole thing, and those with many preexisting conditions are dropping like flies.
The fact that the Italians got the middle finger from other EU nations when they asked for help – whether you think that was right or not is a topic for another day – has not helped, and is bound to result in some serious repercussions for that entity going forward, though.
The EU is toast.
When they all closed their borders and starting protecting their own populations first for fear of being hung from the lampposts, it was done.
The wailing has already begun among the foreign policy “experts”.
You really think the Brussels bureaucracy will admit they are a bunch of useless parasitic entities and roll this thing back, or will they buy lipstick by the ton and try to make the pig look sexy for as long as they can get away with trying this shit?
Panic? Don’t panic? Why not both.
I have a friend choosing to tell us to pant-shit and panic.
Why he thinks this is productive eludes me.
Because it validates his beliefs that emotions should be more important than facts or logic is my take with this type of people. I am saddened to see how many people just succumb to crazy at the drop of a hat.
Emotional Imperialism — the belief that one’s feelings should control other people’s behavior.
Way too many uninformed people have been conditioned to join this camp, and sooner than later, we will have a real bad shitshow because of them.
If you prepare for the worst, it’s easy to hope for the best and not panic. Why people are never prepared is always beyond me. Shit happens in life so buy a few extra cans of food and rolls of tp in good times. You never know if you’re going to need them.
^This. My wife used to think I was little weird for having extras of everything (paper products, canned goods, etc.) tucked away in the basement “just in case”. She doesn’t think so now.
Same scenario with my girlfriend. She used to joke about me being too preppy minded and always laughed when I told her being prepared for something didn’t mean I expected it to happen. I just wanted to not have to scramble when the shit hits the fan. She now is asking me for all sorts of “advice” and how to help her do the same…
Funny how one solid kick in the teeth from reality quickly cleanses people of the left wing indoctrination to depend on government to save their asses. Lets hope it takes a very long time for people to go back to believing government should take care of them.
I’ve learned my lesson. We have stuff, but it’s not really enough to be considered “prepared” — I will remedy that once this is over.
So you’re prepared for everyone else panic buys in advance of a hurricane or winter storm.
I look forward to having a fully stocked storeroom in our next house. The store room is a requirement. We have a full chest freezer and some extra consumables here, but not as much as I’d hope for.
That said, the local shops and gas stations seem to be well stocked, so no need for us to panic yet.
I actually picked up a 2-lb. package of frozen fish that I wouldn’t normally have the other day, to store in the chest freezer. Other than milk I’ve got enough for two weeks, but who knows if they decide to force people to stay home longer than that
Huh. Maybe signing your ports away to China wasn’t such a great idea in retrospect.
BUT THEY PAID SO WELL! And these totalitarians are soooooo dreamy!
Glib help links is an amazing idea! Mornin’ Banjos!
Mornin’
Screw this shelter in place shit.
Panic first, data later.
Strange number from yesterday….
Apparently the numbers are in from expanded testing in Washington. No additional cases.
So, at first blush it appears that in Washington at least there wasn’t a huge lurking infected population. Most of the new tests were negative.
Florida vastly expanded testing yesterday, so we’ll see if any new numbers come out there.
I’m in Washington. The numbers are bullshit. There are numerous co-workers and relations that have been sick over the last month. The docs won’t give a test unless you show up at a care facility presenting all 3 symptoms. People in the medical profession that have been treating Corona patients aren’t being tested.
So your denominator is significantly lower than it should be. Probably by a couple orders of magnitude.
True, but that would mean the death rate is also drastically lower. It’s even lower in Italy with probably 200k+ infections at the very least.
I’m probably on the list with the 2 senators but I was watching the market signals and did a little business before the end of 2019 for tax purposes. I swear, I did not have any inside info except what I got from paying attention. Plus it was Xmas time.
A December dump is entirely different than a Feb dump.
But a morning dump is the best of all.
Can confirm. Today’s was extra pleasant.
Look at Mr. Plenty of TP over here.
Is Malaria going to spike with the drugs being diverted to first world countries?
Probably.
I thought about that too
It is a 65 year old generic, it should be cheap and easy to produce, but I would think the short term effect would be bad.
From what I understand it’s not commonly used anymore in the treatment of malaria because it has become resistant.
I was led to believe the main benefit was improved absorbtion of zinc, which for some reason helps against those ailments.
I’m not a biochemist, so I’m probably misremembering things.
drink moar Guinness!
Brit docs used to recommend a pint of Guinness a day to pregnant women, as it was one of the best sources of zinc. That was before multivitamins.
I think I have two or three bottles in the fridge (had bought a six pack for baking bread)
Come to think of it, I have
mostall of the ingredients for making beer bread still in the house. I don’t have the cheddar to make it cheddar beer bread, but I do have mozzerella.Wait… I have three pounds of cheddar, but I’m not wasting the good wheel on baking bread.
I would advise you just take the wheel to your couch, where in full George Costanza mode you sit in your underwear watching TV and taking bites from it. That’s how men do it….
http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170313185525-01-guinness-gpr-mk01-01-0015-mas-copy-super-169.jpg
Unless M*A*S*H lied to me, lesbians are allergic to chloroquin.
M*A*S*H lied about a lot, so don’t trust them.
Are you saying Jones’ first name was not Spearchucker?
They put those characters of color on a bus toot sweet didn’t they?
Charles Speer?
Speer, Chuck, ER, Jones Hospital.
Depends on the supply chain. None of the inputs are particularly complex. Seems like something they could retool a line for or run extra shifts on.
Anyone else disgusted by the “hurr, durr you won’t cash your check since you’re against socialism” responses on social media. Just because you’re against something on principal doesn’t mean you’re going to shoot yourself in the foot by not participating. While I may be opposed to government schools, I will never condemn parents for taking advantage of those. Etc.
“principle,” dammit. I just took first sip coffee.
[insert Rand cashing her SS checks here]
Plus, THAT ISNT SOCIALISM.
I mean, it kinda is a little, but shifting around cash isn’t really about the means of production, other than capital itself being a means of production.
I paid over $11,000 in federal taxes for 2019. I’m not going to not take back any of that money they send back to me.
Also ^^THIS^^
Concur
The only part that is remotely socialist is if you payed less than your check in total federal tax burden.
Thanks, guys.
Yeah, but these SJW types totally think they have a “gotcha” moment when they tell you you shouldn’t use it if you don’t believe in it but it is OK for them to keep taking your money to finance these enterprises. They see no disconnect and will even accuse you of being duplicitous instead of understanding the concept that if I am forced to pay for it at gunpoint, I am gonna get what’s mine back.
Logic and facts never are these people’s strong suits. See the “PANIC! PANIC!!! PANIC!!eleventy!” movement we are in now for proof.
If my Sophie Cheque comes in the mail lets just say that I’m not one to look a gift horse in the mouth.
Then they’re fine with Trump after all?
Am I going to get a refund on my school taxes since the promised schooling isn’t being provided?
…or am I going to get a new tax levied against me to pay for “free” childcare?
I won’t be getting a check so I can tell socialists to fuck off with a completely clean conscience.
I’m trying to find the anectode, but in Ancient Rome when the Grachis were taking stuff from everyone there was a politician who fought against it. When they succeeded, they criticized him for coming and getting his take. The Patrician responeded, I’ll be damned if I’m not going to get what you owe me.
https://preview.redd.it/v4q1f7vfjmn41.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=79cd85acdf68c8b2bb07eef45d4e3e1d6742c05d
I know right. also i love how the GOP decides that the people who don’t need it are those small business jerks probably make 200K a year, but have no income right now because Governor Ill Duce has decided to shutter his business for two months. But what we need is to give money to all the poor people who can spend it, when they have no ability to go shopping.
The economic side of this is entirely caused by the government. Sure, it’s a (perhaps rational) response to the spread of the virus. But you could not come up with a more literal example of “the government breaks your leg and hands you a crutch” without actually breaking people’s legs. Are you supposed to refuse the crutch after they’ve broken your legs?
Looking forward to get my cash back on my taxes with my Tesla with the exact same sentiment.
Ask the same socialists why they don’t contribute extra taxes. I can’t find it, naturally, but there is an address in DC where you can “donate” to the IRS.
We don’t qualify anyway and I said I didn’t really want someone else’s money.
Burr and Loeffler should be forced to, in front of the senate, spend two hours licking the shit ridden underware of Kung Flu victims before being put out on an ice flow, never to be seen again.
What? No woodchippers?
What happened to us?
Italy surpasses China in deaths. Which makes me suspicious of the Chinese numbers reported.
“That wasn’t Wuhan, that was Pnuemonia!”
/ChiCom lies.
“I not run away from you! I run toward you, Benefactor!” My brother trying to skip out on his rent with a Chinese landlord. Full dialect and everything!
My hyacinths are in full bloom and smell wonderful.
Now all I can think of are jokes off of the character Hyacinth Bucket.
Heh I forgot her first name was Hyacinth. Great show.
Sanity rules!
Euphemism?
P.Brooks might awake from his ancient slumber.
It’s shaping up to be beautiful here today. I may take the afternoon off and go do outdoor work around the house.
What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?
Good morning, Banjos!
You have my sincere condolences. If the goal was cheesy ’60s TV, he should have gone with this gem.
A lot of bad shit in the lynx today. If Two Scoops shuts the country down for a month, it will be catastrophic. I really hope he pulls his head out of his ass.
Burr and Loeffler? Lamp post.
I enjoy The Dead South. The bass player seems to really like his job.
I hope you, Sloop, the girls and all the Glibs make it a great day.
Cello, but yeah.
Awake and had coffee, does life get any better than that? The weather is turning, Tundra, and the snow will be leaving us soon.
You are right on, my friend. Looking out my window, the buds on my magnolia are getting fat. Spring is coming.
Side yard hill is greening, still two feet of snow on the flat. Winter is Ass-whole!
My magnolia is almost done
Mornin’, Tundra.
Howdy Tundra
Dead South makes some great music.
Me and my new music buddy were just about ready to take _In Hell I’ll Be In Good Company_ to the next Open Mic but looks like that won’t happen for a while now.
Old/on‐hiatus music buddy just retired and is on 2-month camping and biking tour in the south with Mrs. Dibro. But still sending songs to one another.
>> Might I suggest Blackberry Smoke for a Southern-fried Bluegrassy good time <<
On the upside, looks like we're all gonna get some more jamming in. *silver lining*
Rat farts! — Mrs. *Dobro*
Any love for Lost Dog Street Ban?d
Was going to see them this past week (of course that’s not happening) but hopefully, they will come back around.
I like his cover of this more than the original.
FWIW, I’m at work in defiance of PA asshat Wolf.
Though, we’re “officially” closed.
I’m apparently life critical. We’re open. My team is all at home except for some lab people.
Good for you. My job is considered “life sustaining”, but I did hire a black market roofer to do some repairs.
In good news today – Disabled 53-Year-Old Woman Uses Firearm to Stop Home Invasion
In case anybody was wondering how my grocery run went yesterday…
Took just over 4 hours to do the same shopping that normally takes me around 90 minutes. Every store was packed out the ass – I’ve never seen any of the stores this crowded in the entire time I’ve lived here (because packing people in like sardines because of your limited hours is a great way to stop the spread of viruses and bacteria). Albertsons wouldn’t let me in when I first arrived because it is now age-65-and-over only until 9 AM (Smith’s sent me a customer service email today announcing they will be opening an hour early for age-60-and-over customers on Mondays Wednesdays and Fridays henceforth). Quantities were being limited at Smith’s and Albertsons for meat, butter, milk, and several other products, which was of somewhat limited consequence since they were out of about half of their inventory anyway. I got one of the last 4 packages of the chicken breasts that I pretty much live on. There is no toilet paper, paper towels, napkins, paper cups, or paper plates in stock anywhere in town. I lucked out in that Walmart was just “restocking” 10 or so loaves of Oroweat when I arrived. Thankfully the freezer was already fairly well stocked. In about a week it’s going to be a real bummer if the toilet paper situation doesn’t improve.
Again, this is unequivocally the most hysterical bullshit panic I have ever experienced in my entire life, including 9/11.
What town, Pat?
Here in the western part of the Twin Cities, things seem to be getting back to somewhat normal.
I’m guessing there’s going to be a run today most places due to California’s 30 day lockdown.
Here too but The TP war continues, unabated… Gas is cheaper now than for at least a decade. $3 American/gallon or thereabouts.
$1.55 on my way home yesterday
Cheap gas and shelter in place legislation. Hrmmm…
Pahrump. To be fair, probably 2/3 of the population out here is over 65 and/or have a preexisting condition.
“I didn’t get a Pahrumph out of that guy!”
My good friend, Stan Davis, died there a couple years ago.. Over the hump, I guess
Yeah, there was one package of chicken breasts left at my grocery store yesterday, although there weren’t any on Tuesday or Wednesday. I also picked up a ham steak, since Dad and I usually have that one night a week. Those had been picked bare on Tuesday and Wednesday too.
I haven’t figured out the pattern. Some stores are crowded or stripped bare, others look absolutely normal. I think by next week we’ll be at the new normal, maybe a bit less in the stores because people eating out less.
*Wives and girlfriends across the Continent don sackcloth and ashes*
That’s what I’m hoping. At most I think a couple weeks should do it. I’m pretty well set for food and beverages until then.
My everyday drinking beer is running low, cellared beer stores are still high. In liquor, my top shelf is strong, but the midshelf and below have been decimated (in the literal meaning of the word). I’m down to only two kegs on tap.
I’ve got supplies supposedly being delivered Saturday so I can brew up another batch of beer that will be ready in ~4 weeks (9.5% ABV DIPA, because why the fuck not).
Meat and protein I’m good as long as the electricity holds. Dry stock I’m OK on, not great, but can hold out a month with what I’ve got. It’s snacks (non-necessary) and fresh vegetables that I’ll be hurting on. I’ve got frozen vegetables, and some canned ones.
I’m a pretty cheap date. I grabbed a handle each of Bacardi, Evan Williams and Tanqueray, 12 limes, 6 bottles of Coke and a case of seltzer. The one redeeming feature of NV is that you can buy booze anywhere and the tax isn’t exorbitant.
In the freezer I’ve got another package of chicken, a cured ham, a turkey breast, 1 whole chicken, and a shit load of frozen veggies. The frozen veggies go into a smoothie with protein powder and frozen fruit once a day. I could use some more fruit, but I’ve got probably at least a week and a half’s worth, and luckily I had just ordered 11 pounds of protein powder right before all the hysteria hit.
The problem isn’t supply chain. Stores are getting as much (and in fact more) supplies than normal. The issue is how much people are buying at once.
Doing Instacart shopping, I’ve been watching the ebb and flow of shoppers for a while.
Here’s the great news. Once people have no more space to hoard, they’ll have no reason to go to the stores. I expect this to happen in the next week. If you can get by 7 days without wiping your ass, you’ll be able to make tents out of all the excess toilet paper.
Yeah, New Zealand supermarkets are saying the same thing.
There was a story last night that Walmart and another big chain are not accepting returns on Toilet Paper any more. I guess some small-time entrepreneurs saw that guy who bought 12,000 bottles of hand sanitizer and was forced to donate them all and figured they wanted out.
Look on the bright side, your stocks won’t expire.
You’ll be able to wipe your backwide for years before needing to buy more.
“Backwide” Ultimate John-O!
I think this is likely correct. People aren’t consuming more, they are building up buffers. Once those buffers get full, they will be back to purchasing just for consumption.
“The problem isn’t supply chain. Stores are getting as much (and in fact more) supplies than normal. The issue is how much people are buying at once.”
Went shopping with the girlfriend yesterday, and while the store had certain isles of products bare, in general you could find what most things. I am seeing a lot of places putting up signs saying “Limit X” with “X” being anywhere from one item to 4. Not used to seeing that shit and wondering how many people are really thinking this is necessary. My suspicions are that the people that usually laugh at people that take precautions to make sure when bad shit happens they are not left holding their own dicks in their hands now are freaking out and panic buying shit. I witnessed an exchange between a yuppie young couple where they were complaining because there was a limit on the nuts their vegan diets depended on and the rack was almost bare. I chuckled.
I just found TP at one of my regular convenience stores. Neener neener
Taking the roll from the store bathroom isn’t “finding it” at the store.
*busted*
Senate GOP unveils their plan to rain cash on the country, $1200 per individual
But what to do with my Trump-bucks. . .
The payroll tax holiday and maybe postponing payments for student loans would probably be more beneficial to more people. I don’t like the idea of bailouts that only seem necessary due to government incompetence in the first place. There is no need to grind the economy to a halt because of the flu.
If it follows what happened with the Bush tax refund, most people will pay down debt, which is why it did jack and shit to goose the economy.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom issued a statewide order for all of the state’s residents to “stay at home” during the coronavirus pandemic.
Go. To. Hell.
Funny how when the rubber meets the road it don’t matter if the Statist cunte has a D or an R after his name.
Who the fuck does he think he is?
I saw that last night and just went to bed disgusted. As Commiefornia goes, so goes most of the rest of the states.
Expect your guv’na to do the same soon so as to appear like a strong leader.
I took low doses of Chloroquine weekly while I did a semester in Sri Lanka. No noticeable side-effects on my indestructible 20-year-old body and no malaria despite aggressive mosquitoes. One dumb ass in our group decided not to take it, and decided to do a bottom to top tour of India when the semester ended. When we got back to campus the next semester he was still a bizarre shade of yellow – I pointed and laughed.
If the best solution ends up being the hydroxlchloroquine +azithromycin, I am going to laugh hysterically.
Um, why?
Ludicrously old, simple, cheap medicine that’s been in common use since before WWII?
But the reason that particular combo is implied to be extra funny is what eludes me. Is it just because they’re both anti-malarials?
Both are off the shelf, common drugs.
All this panic, and all we need is a generic malarial and a z pack?
It’s like this book.
SPOILER ALERT: The Turtle Wizard just needed aspirin.
I’d laugh (bitterly) if we crashed our economy and forfeited our liberties over an illness curable by something so common and simple.
Yes, my hysterical laughter will be mostly bitter. Or literally hysterical in that I will laughing and yelling at the panic idiots.
Agree with this – and FDA functionary who starts squawking about off-label use of chloroquine should immediately shown the door or transferred to an Arctic research station.
White text on black background – Can’t read, eyes hurt.
^obviously not a child of the ’80s
High contrast monitors and computer use in darkened rooms probably did more to damage my night vision than anything else.
So not putting any of the blame on your very frequent use of the “love glove” (as in a glove used to help make sweet love by yourself), and not a rubber?
After the sun sets my browser flips to white on black. So relaxing.
I see the link worries about China being the chloroquine source. Apparently the drug is old and fairly easy to manufacture so even if that’s the case it shouldn’t be much of a problem and production could be ramped up here quickly.
Looking at the world infection map, it sure seems like most of the really small dots are where at least some people regularly takes malaria preventatives.
That could be it but it could also be related to climate or poorness and a resulting lack of test kits. Even if it’s not a preventative it looks VERY promising as a treatment (and maybe the infection rates are as high as ours but the antimalarials keep them from visiting the doc).
I know, just doing some wishful thinking. Heat and humidity could be another factor.
he was still a bizarre shade of yellow – I pointed and laughed.
Someday when Jimmy Miyagi snaps ans shoots your ass, no one will feel sorry for you.
Or maybe this is Straff’s origin story?
Shamed and thrown out of decent society, Straff wandered the earth until he found a place where his bizarre yellow skin was accepted.
It was pretty damn funny to see that idiot walking around in the middle of Maine in January with Malaria. And he had talked about not believing in the medicine like an anti–vaxer for a while.
Dangerous Curves (not Q-related)
I think it’s been here all the time. Good article.
The good natured Tundra does not read the comments!
Lol.
I just wanted to use the excellent headline.
Sorry about that, Chip!
Pfft. No worries. I’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop and the Wings not get the #1 pick in the draft. That will be the icing on the cake.
You fucking well know it’s gonna be the Hawks.
Huh. I thought you’d be jubilant. Pretty nice looking draft class.
At least it’s not the Oilers. Talk about wasting all those picks all those years.
Over/under Hall goes back to them one day?
After this season, they should get the #1 pick for the next 4 years as a mercy.
So. From what I’m gathering from this perspective, is it possible officials are conflating the regular influenza strain of the virus with the corona strain thus skewing the numbers toward corona? If we don’t have proper testing and people have had it it seems entirely possible this is the case?
Plus. If it’s been around, haven’t we been unwittingly been practicing herd immunity?
And a whole bunch of the “I tested positive but didn’t have any symptoms” people are testing positive because they had it 6 weeks ago and chalked it up to a normal seasonal cold/flu.
“It’s unclear why scientists have not yet produced any models that attempt to calculate the virus’ presence here until testing was available”
They’re all too busy trying to produce models attempting to calculate what the temperatures were at every latitude-longitude for the past 15,000 years.
I was going to link to this story too, but I value other people’s thoughts and read the links.
This matches up with the experience of a buddy of mine. We met last week for a beer and he was saying he had some monster flu in Feb like he had never had before. We joked about it being the Wu Flu Clan but didn’t really believe it.
After reading that story, it does make sense that he very well could have been a “victim”. What a gyp though. To be a victim, but not get any of the street cred that goes along with it.
I don’t want victim cred. I find that when I realized there was a good fit to the symptom profile from my fever two weeks ago, I gained a lot of peace of mind.
If I’ve already had Wuhan, I won’t catch it again, so there’s nothing to worry about other than people panicking.
What? Who doesn’t want victim cred? Who refuses to wear his victimhood on his sleeve?
I’m pretty sure my wife and I caught it the first week of March. I had flu like symptoms for about four days. I’ve never, ever been laid up that long. Had a dry cough for about 10 total days. My buddy is a doc and gave us both a Z pack. Not sure if it helped or not, but I feel fine now. Wife is still coughing a bit, but otherwise no other symptoms. Our two HS age kids had no symptoms at all.
Our two HS age kids had no symptoms at all.
Hmmmm… combining that with the fact that you wife did have symptoms…. carry the two…..
SEXTING PREVENTS CORONA VIRUS!!!!!
A ZPack is for a bacterial infection, not viral. That’s one of the problems about overuse of antibiotics – doctors guess at whether an ailment is viral or bacterial by seeing if an antibiotic works or not. Probably because getting a test result will take a few days and they’d rather the patient come back 5 days later rather than 3. Basically relying on mathematics and logic rather than actual science.
Oh, he told me it probably wouldn’t do anything, but it wouldn’t hurt. It’s the first antibiotic I’ve taken in more than 10 years.
It matches my experience. I didn’t make my normal December trip to Guangzhou this year, but the colleague who did had a high fever for a few days afterward. And like everybody else’s family around here, most of mine had flu symptoms in early-mid February, but most tested negative.
Looking like a flavor of selection bias in the testing/reporting, just because now there’s specific tests and they’re looking for it.
Shit. Is it strictly the first of the year? A bunch of coworkers got very sick during/after a work trip late last year. Everybody thought it was the flu, and I think that’s what it got diagnosed as, but nobody was paying much attention to the goings-on in China at the time.
(by late last year, I mean mid-December)
With 14,000 people a day traveling between the countries?
It could easily have been here then.
I got a wicked case of bronchitis in November that lasted about seven weeks. I was coughing so much that I lost my voice (sounded like the Godfather for a while) and I frequently woke up with coughing fits so bad that I regurgitated a little bit.
Now I’m wondering if it was actually the Coronavirus. Most doctors were probably writing off such cases as regular cold and flu, so how would they know? They didn’t even do a culture of whatever I had, they just gave me an inhaler and cough suppressants.
I’m assuming the virus started spreading in Wuhan sometime around October. If it’s that contagious, it certainly spread to most other parts of China by December.
Washington state numbers would bear this out.
Trump eyes grounding jets, halting stock trading, and ordering shelter in place
Please get Rand Paul on the phone.
Who the fuck does he think he is?
Bayer donates 3 million tablets of chloroquine phosphate to U.S.
Cool! We’ll have to divvy that up on a proper “needs-based” basis! 3 million pills to NoVa it is!
With the condition that all Monsanto lawsuits are dropped?
Is this a fucking emergency or not?
Disband the fucking FDA if necessary and certainly fire the fuckwits that are trying to throw a wrench into a highly expedited approval process. What the hell are they thinking?
“People might start to think our agency isn’t needed!”
You’re likely correct and no one has time for that bullshit. Their job justification horseshit is bad enough under normal circumstances and people won’t stand for that now.
I’ve dealt with bureaucrats long enough to know that the most useless people are the ones most insistant to have their input and disrupt the smooth running to prove they’re ‘essential’.
That sort of behaviour isn’t unlearned in an emergency.
It also assumes that the ratio of useful/useless at a bureaucracy is > 1.
My cynical ass tells me that not only is that behavior not unlearned, it is reinforced because they understand the Iron Rule: “You Today, Me Tomorrow”.
If the useless outnumber the useful, you can be sure they will make sure that no one votes to streamline processes.
I’m worried about the state of our country, and the caliber of its subjects.
You’ll find all manner of calibers among this crowd. But I try to keep my caliber variety simple, 9mm and 5.56.
Yeah, I have a rich buddy who has a garage full of ammo….one whole wall is ammo tins stacked on shelves, floor to ceiling. He even has 2,000 rounds for the .50 cal. Those things are crazy expensive.
I keep joking that if he ever calls the police out for anything, they are going to spread all his guns out on a bedsheet and the news will be talking about “a small arsenal”.
My friend in dutchland is very panicked about this, thinks the economy will be shut down completely more than 3 months and everything will go to hell. Also he is scared of the illness. I find myself less panicked at the moment but who knows…
308 in Romania but barley 10k tested. No local deaths yet.
I find the death discrepancies strange. Germany barely has any, Spain France not to say Italy have bunches
Do Old Euros retire to Germany much? I seem to recall southern europe being a retirement destination for the northerners. I’d wager the average age in Germany is lower than those countries with a mediterranian coast.
yes but not that much. And I don’t think there are many retiring in France. Maybe spain italy but even those places got fairly expensive, and in italy worse was in the North where I don;t think it is some retirement community for rest of Europe
Yeah, I’ve always been under the impression that the retirement places are the Spanish and Portuguese coasts.
Well, if Sexy Beast is anything to go by, Spain is definitely the British version of Florida.
Can confirm.
/sees his planned vacation this summer slowly fading out
Germany’s death rate is only at 0.3% so far.
Culturally, it makes a bit of sense compared to the romance language nations.
Will Also Feature ‘XXX Nude Hand Sanitizer Wrestling’
Won’t that dry them out?
Easier transfer of mummified corpses. Win/Win!
Well, after that they do a XXX nude lanolin wrestling show.
Why would that interest anyone?
Do you know how many times I have watched Rosie Palm vs. Shaft at my house?
Wait. It is nude gals in hand sanitizer? Not nude hands in sanitizer?
That changes everything!
Marvel introduces Snowflake and Safespace heroes. DURING A PANDEMIC?!?
https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1239995358433943553
Yup, and their super power is that when they get shot, drugs fall out of their ass.
I mean, the social justice crowd is already a disease in that community.
The author of the new series is also the dude who wrote about a gay santa.
I’m not surprised. He outright said he didn’t read the original because it was “too cool”.
He was a dude too lame for comic books.
That’s just sad.
Being lame is the new cool though, at least for some.
He made me laugh in a sorrowful kind of way.
He also fits the profile of someone who is into really, really, creepy-freaky shit in the sack.
A cuck with no cock.
That was the same thing I thought when I read that quote. Hilarious!
Is it just me, or is Snowflake sporting a bigger package than Safespace?
She’s stuffing her shorts.
I want Trump to pass an executive order giving us full permission to use the term “retard” without social stigma to refer to some people.
That’s beyond his authority.
Stimulus to allow people to buy bidets?
You can’t use more water, this is California!
Go poo on the street like everyone else.
+2
Apparently local plastic bag bans are causing a “snowball effect”. Fucking idiots, the flushers and the banners both.
I did remember that I have a big box of old/damaged clothes that I cut up for rags to shine shoes and clean guns, and I did consider using it for TP if my current supply runs out, but my plan was to burn them in the backyard, not flush them…
It might sound gross, but if for some reason this gets worse, you might want to wash them and reuse. And who know with how bad the freakout is.
So, I’m watching this Netflix series called “Travelers” last night, and they suddenly became extremely relevant.
The show is sort of a progressive dystopian fantasy where the future has been destroyed by our evil ways, but a group of vegan time travelers who are loyal to an artificial intelligence called “the Director” have traveled back in time to fix our society and prevent all of the coming disasters (which include both global warming and a new ice age).
Anyway, last night I binged my way through season 2. A big chunk of the season is about a global pandemic that starts out as a novel virus similar to SARS. No lie. And it is pretty close to what we are dealing with now… people being told to “go home” and shelter in place, but not doing that. Hospitals overwhelmed. Economic panic… even looting. They have quite a few segments with people “sheltering in place” and empty streets…. even people talking about “what part of everyone getting sick makes you think ‘I’m gonna bust that window and steal that TV?’
Season 2 turned off so Antifa inspired that I was on the edge of dumping it. But what else was I gonna watch?
Anyway, not a bad diversion. And pretty prescient with the pandemic virus situation. The numbers they throw around sound really familiar – as does the confusion around the numbers.
It was well done sci fi. I can overlook the tone of the rest is done well.
The last season is done well.
That was my attitude as well.
Interesting in the “politics” of the show… both the good guys and the bad guys seem entirely inspired by versions of Woke progressive politics. That makes it a lot more interesting than if they had simply gone with “let me set up a conservative straw man to be the bad guy”.
Yeah. I enjoyed the show.
Watch Counterpart instead.
Travelers got progressively more and more stupid over the course of the show, whereas Counterpart starts with a single suspension of disbelief and extrapolates from that very well without requiring you to continuously accept more and more preposterous plot points.
Thanks, I’ll add it to my list.
I gotta say, I really appreciate it when the writers know where they are going.
Game of Thrones was a good example of a writer handwaving at the “deeper mystery” and then painting himself into a corner he didn’t know how to get out of.
But that style is a thousand times better than the intentionally incoherent “twist” driven stories like Lost that have become such a fad. I still have a good deal of animosity for my friends who pushed me to watch that show. As you said, more and more preposterous plot points. That one is pretty much the extreme example – no end game in mind, and not even a passing care for continuity.
But I’m afraid we are alone on this. They do the same thing in TV drama. My wife watches all the chick drama shows – like Grey’s Anatomy, etc. And they’ll just completely change a character if it makes the writing easier. “No, now that girl who was so in love with her man is a lesbian, see? That’ll be so edgy!!”
Lost sucked. For that matter, I can pretty much guarantee that any project that involves Damon Lindelof is going to suck.
Batman the TV series had more continuity than 90% of the crap they put out now.
That’s perfect…. funny, and true!
And excellent use of on-topic reference to a TV show that we all watched 50 times per episode as kids.
There are shows that actually have a deeper mystery (Sixth Sense, Westworld, Mr. Robot) and there are shows that pretend to have one (BSG, NuWho, Lost, Noir). The latter generally suck.
Then there are shows in which the presence of a deeper mystery is irrelevant since the show is really about the weirdness as presented (Twin Peaks, The Prisoner).
Where Neon Genesis Evangelion falls is left as an exercise to the reader.
https://old.reddit.com/r/im14andthisisdeep/
Robot got dangerously close to that territory and the final season could have been a 3 hour finale.
The Prisoner is my favorite show of all time.
Actually, there’s somewhat-coherent mythology to the original Twin Peaks that the new season kind of farts all over.
JoS Townsend and Son
Forgotten Weapons
InRange TV
Walter Sorrels
So, I thought today was Thursday until 2 minutes ago when I couldn’t figure out why my calendar kept sticking an appointment on Friday.
That’s a nice morning surprise.
Yes and no. Great that I don’t have to work tomorrow. Bad because we need to be moved out of the main floor of our house by Monday morning (hardwoods getting refinished) , and I’m sitting amongst a bunch of stuff that should have been moved Thursday evening.
At my age, when I think “morning surprise”, that’s not what comes to mind.
It’s a friday. I’m not going to connect to work tomorrow.
That’s my plan as well. I may even put my phone into maximum screening mode.
I just use my sign-in sheets. No fuss, no muss. Arbeight Macht Frei!
Banjos, why Brady Bunch of all things?
She envies their lawn?
Good news alert: Germany’s has high infection rates but very few deaths. Early mass scale testing has helped
https://twitter.com/lionelbarber/status/1240912560142024704
Bad news alert – Coronavirus 19 makes Humans immune to Vampires. Romania becomes a shattered remnant of itself.
I doubt testing does much to reduce the death rate. More like it’s revealing the much lower than expected mortality rates, at least in countries that can handle the increased load on the medical system.
lt’s basically launching a plague victim over the wall with a trebuchet. This I believe and I am not wont to conspiracy theories. Make of that what you will.
“I doubt testing does much to reduce the death rate.”
The demand for testing has nothing to do with these fuckers wanting to help people afflicted with this Chinese virus, and everything to do with these people trying to get accurate data so as to better plan how to remove more of our rights & freedoms, people. I had this discussion with people just this past week. Why test when you have no symptoms? Why test when you have symptoms but they are not causing distress and need for medical attention? Especially when there was no specific cure that could be prescribed until the last few days (and that is a quick fix option, and not a vaccine or some specific drug designed for this very virus)? The demand for testing is idiotic unless what you need is data. And I am certain none of the data collected about numbers infected vs. people dying directly helps come up with a cure or preventative measure.
I doubt testing does much to reduce the death rate.
Very little, if anything. If you are sick enough to die from it, you’re coming to the hospital anyway. Testing helps identify what we need to treat, but that only really helps with people who are . . . sick enough to die from it and coming to the hospital anyway. Testing the genpop is useful for a number of reasons*, but it won’t really reduce actual deaths by very much at all.
*some good, some bad
Nations Adultureres hit hardest by Covid-19
That’s some biting satire right there. And probably not too far off the mark.
Cops hardest hit
FTFY
Aren’t they used to it by now?
What does your income 3-15 months ago have to do with the current situation?
Yes, everybody should save. But that applies to government employees too, and yet they inevitably get backpay regardless of income after every shutdown.
Moreover, personal income says nothing about expenses. You might have made $100,000/year gross and thus about $70,000 net and needed to spend all of it (and perhaps then some!).
If you’re going to hand out money to relieve a catastrophe (especially when much of the economic privation is a consequence of the government’s actions), it shouldn’t just end up resembling generic welfare payments.
If you’re going to hand out money to relieve a catastrophe (especially when much of the economic privation is a consequence of the government’s actions), it shouldn’t just end up resembling generic welfare payments.
This is why you will never make it as a politician.
It’s a long list.
Wifey’s company is basically paying her to stand around all day. They’ve reduced flights like Caesar reduced the Gauls. (Funny how I STILL want to spell it Ceasar after all these years). Anyhow, she’s got seniority and I work with the mail. Postal service and flights might get curtailed but they’re not shutting down.
They’ve reduced flights like Caesar reduced the Gauls.
GENOCIDE IS NOT FUNNY!! /Gallic Justice Warrior.
He only killed the men – the women and children were into slavery.
They were all white so it’s totes fine.
GameStop tells employees it’s ‘essential’ and can stay open during lockdowns
I think we are about to learn just how “essential” non-essential companies are. Sure, that Rule and Die company doesn’t sell food or medicine…. but where are you gonna get restaurant supplies if the company that makes parts for the supplier is shuttered.
Everything is connected. Without the bank, how is the local supermarket chain supposed to get temporary warehouse space? Without pulpwood, how is Kimberly Clark supposed to make TP for your bunghole? Without plastic, how are they to ship it?
Etc., etc.
I can see the argument. I am surprised none of the major sports leagues figured out how to keep it going so they were the only show in town. With no other sports, we could all be Canadian bocce ball league fans.
I was hoping they’d roll out women’s beach curling. Essentially curling but wearing the beach volleyball uniforms.
The Nipple League?
I’ll bet I can still name the plot of any Brady Bunch episode by just watching the first 30 seconds.
We didn’t have a lot of entertainment options when I was a kid.
Same here but Gilligan’s Island and The Flintstones.
It was definitely a different time. And there were so few kid-friendly shows, for about 15-20 years, we all watched the same shows. Over and over and over…..
And you guys are mentioning the good stuff.
We also had some absolute crap that we all loved. Remember Superfriends? Wow. So horrible. But we only got 3 hours of cartoons a week, so you sucked it up and liked what they gave you.
Except Sid and Marty Croft. Holy crap. They made some drek.
Yeah, Superfriends was terrible and I also still have all the Looney Tunes cartoons and Three Stooges and Little Rascals shorts burned into my brain. You’re right, there wasn’t much to watch.
“Form of a reused Animation!”
What, did I steal someone’s avatar? Maybe I can find Daffy Duck smoking a pipe or something.
No, it was a joke at the expense of the Superfriends.
Shape of….. an Ice Computer Terminal!!
Hey Stinky, you joined BA?
Yeah, we had great cartoons from the 1940’s. I wonder how old I was when I realized the use of crank telephones and prominent use of farming and hunting scenarios wasn’t being done for some retro-vibe.
Also interesting… all those great old cartoons are dead and buried. Too politically incorrect. And Little Rascals?!? Yeah, don’t even go there.
A couple years back, my sister got me a collection of Superman cartoons from 1941-1942. Holy shit… the fighting of the yellow menace had me laughing quite loudly at the big blue boy scout dropping racial epitaphs.
Superhero comics have usually been government propaganda. Got even worse after the creation of the comics code.
propaganda
Same as it ever was, ’tis true. My dad is lost in that same bullshit, only its Gary Cooper instead of Batman. He’s a law-and-order kind of guy who trusts cops. Due process, the rule of law, and civil rights just don’t register with him: he runs on an entirely different lubricant. He should have been Chinese; he should have stayed in the army; he obeys and doesn’t question because
He doesn’t understand the wider implications or even his personal risk in the authoritarian regimes he adores: it will never happen to him. There’s nothing on his laptop you can’t see, so why should he worry?
This kind of Superman love of looking through walls and having infinite power and throwing the word justice around without a hint of irony is just normal to simple people who survived the Depression and WW2, which are his parents and the world he grew up in.
The only people his age who understand were either jailed in the Red Scare or are Black. Dad just watches his Gunsmoke over and over and doesn’t see a problem.
Weird brag
From pay phone to hair tonic. Barry W’s book Growing Up Brady is a fun little read.
So how does the tax check thing technically work? Is it a refundable tax credit for 2020, but they’re mailing out checks ahead of time if they assume you qualify for it?
I’m presently unemployed but if they look at my family 2019 income, we’ll get nothing. Maybe my 19-year-old will get some Trump Bucks.
That’s what I’m wondering. You might not get a check mailed to you due to last year’s income, but will you still be eligible for a 2020 tax credit?
How about some Perspective?
Frustrated and trying to avoid the cat, the elephant accidentally jumps off a cliff and dies.
This is no accident.
Yep. More like jabbing the elephant with spears until it runs off the cliff.
Counterpoint 😀
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1240712548007194624
https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1240714702281306117
I can’t stand Taleb. At all.
I get quit a bit of amusement from him and he does on occasion make a good point or two…
I’m sure he does. But the idea that “This is so risky that we have to shoot the baby with the bathwater” attitude combined with his asshole arrogance is annoying.
baby with the bathwater is one of my most hated expressions.
I have no idea the risk… I would be more cautions than the average glib but I think tanking the economy may be going to far. Also all the erotic massage parlors are closed.
The solution would have been to allow private companies to develop mass testing fast and only isolate the sick but that aint happening
baby with the bathwater is one of my most hated expressions.
I tried to vary it for you.
I have no idea the risk… I would be more cautions than the average glib but I think tanking the economy may be going to far.
I too don’t know the risk. But that means the range of the risk is not knowable, and what it’s likely outcomes can be. What Taleb is saying here is that knowingly cratering the economy, something that we know will cause a lot of hardship and harm, is worth it because we have to be so risk averse that the idea of an uncertain risk is coming. We know that even if this went and took it’s course it wouldn’t be the end of the world. Things would get bad, but not apocalyptic. So what drives me crazy is that he discounts the known bad and overvalues the bad risk, and then says that we should all live under the policy that fits his risk preferences.
The solution would have been to allow private companies to develop mass testing fast and only isolate the sick but that aint happening
And that solution would be wholly incompatible with Taleb’s thinking. We don’t know the risks of using untested medications, but we don know the risks of an individual catching Wuhan and so it is best to just catch Wuhan than let people use untested medicine.
Self-awareness, meet Taleb. I gather you’ve never been introduced.
What Taleb is saying here is that knowingly cratering the economy, something that we know will cause a lot of hardship and harm, is worth it because we have to be so risk averse that the idea of an uncertain risk is coming.
Funny how the precautionary principle went right out the window for this. Extreme risk aversion is just as bad as extreme risk tolerance. The game is to rationally analyze both the risk and the likely outcomes of countermeasures. Taleb would have us shut down the economy every year, because we know the risk from flu, for example, and it would appear that he thinks that level of risk justifies a shutdown.
More and more, he gives the impression of cruising on that One Right Call he made a long time ago.
One of his Twitter disciples asked him if Ioannidis has responded yet. If Ioannidis’ response to being called an ‘imbecile’ is anything but “go fuck yourself, Nassim” I would be greatly disappointed.
Plant food on every south facing window sill in Ireland
https://twitter.com/hollyshortall/status/1240784286091030530
Barley and hops?
In two months time:
Potato blight wipes out all plants in South Facing Window sills in Ireland.
I’m pretty sure Every-South-Facing-Window-Sill is in England.
It appears to me that China is now trying to use their position as the world’s manufacturer in order to buy favor with all the countries that are suffering from the crisis they helped create.
This article serves to prove my point, but the author fails to realize that it’s an indictment of unfettered globalism and not an indictment of the United States for failing to bail out every asshole across the globe.
Globalism as we’ve known it is likely dead and this virus, overblown or not, will be what killed it. What they’re pushing there is borderline Chinese propaganda and they ought to be ashamed.
Well it is Foreign Affairs
Oh, yeah, Chinese leadership has a fucking halo on it now. And the US, which front-ran everyone (for better or worse) on responding to the CCP Virus is the country no one wants to follow.
Even though they all are.
One of the silver linings here is that the previously sub rosa Chinese propaganda network in the West has self-identified.
They’re trying to position themselves as the US post-WWII.
That probably won’t work, a lot of nations are going to try to solidify their domestic manufacturing base, especially for medical items and drugs, as well as for other stuff so they’re less reliant on the tender mercies of the CCP. That might not be the smartest move economically but that’s what we’re going to see.
That and even if the CCP tries to lord their aid over other countries, many of them can just say: Get Fucked it was your fault anyway.
I think we’ll finally see a return to worst case scenario risk avoidance. The approach that you take when certain outcomes are deemed unacceptable so you absorb specific costs in order to avoid them.
Mike Toole
@MichaelToole
Sometimes, I am seized with the desire to collar every Hollywood director who has absolutely no idea how to rehearse, stage, and execute a coherent fight scene and make them watch the chainsaw battle from TIGER ON BEAT
https://twitter.com/MichaelToole/status/1240845476116791296
Ooh! That one guy looks like James Pax. nom nom nom
That’s fantastic
Yeah, some 30 years ago my friends who were in to kung-fu cinema would complain about Hollywood fight scenes and the terrible pacing and flow. I didn’t really get it. I enjoyed old kung-fu movies just like everyone else, but didn’t see the huge difference.
Then I saw Rumble in the Bronx. Holy cow! The choreography was amazing. I’m a convert.
But Hollywood has definitely adapted. You don’t see the old draw back, hold, throw punch, wait, get punched stuff so much any more.
I liked the fight scenes from West Side Story. Great choreography.
I took advantage of Amazon to finally watch The 36th Chamber. That was pretty great.
Every Frame a Painting Jackie Chan
It’s like Star Wars, but with chainsaws.
You might recall a couple of weeks ago Mr. Mojeaux got dxd with pneumonia even though they were sure that was what it was.
Well his company is sending him home (not to work) with pay for…indefinitely?
I’m nervous about this. What if they decide they don’t need him?
If he is away and everything descends into chaos, he is needed. It’s right there in the contract that we signed at birth. If he was skating then he probably wasn’t very happy there. I’m a “do-er”. If I ain’t busy, I ain’t happy.
They could always decide they don’t need him even if he’s in perfect health.
I’m sure that as part of the recovery, “Being Useless” will be passed into law as one of the protected classes by Congress. That way everyone gets their job back.
If not, you might have to so some things with your husband’s boss to make sure that he gets a favorable review. There are several web sites out there with short documentary films on exactly what those things are. You and the hubby may want to watch them while he is home.
Not many people think like this, but I think in terms of megatrends. A good 50% of what happens, we don’t have any control over. The firm he works for could implode; he might not be needed if they survive; he might be on half-pay even if he stays. This could go on six months, the dollar could collapse, and it might rain frogs with AIDS.
Who knows. All you can do is do your part. I’m always trying to build my colleagues up, teach, support, research, plan, organize, optimize . . . anything to create wealth; I’m sure you do the same. If you do all that, there is nothing more he can do to move the needle further with the firm.
The last comfort comes for the lack of reason in play in any regard. People make horrible decisions. They can’t deal with basic statistics or elementary logic; even with the best data and counseling, management mostly is a figment; meanwhile monkey-people running on turbo-charged lizard-brains eat their seedcorn and throw babies out with the bathwater. Every firm I’ve ever studied, every generation: people are morons.
So if you can’t manage the weather, you can’t do any more than you’re doing, and people are idiots anyway, the least you can do is stop worrying. Do something meaningful: help someone patch a roof or something.
As for me: I’m watching forty year old baseball games and watching the river go by.
Good luck!
The “Don is Alex Jones” theory just got confirmed.
My intro to Jones was in Texas. The fucking insane bitch who lived below my divorced dad pad had an InfoWars sticker on her minivan.
LOL That would be OUR roof.
@ThePontiff: Yes, I thought of protected classes just after I posted and realized that if people are laid off from this, there are going to be a whole lot of law suits.
Tell you what, though. If my husband comes home NOT to work, I’m going to put him to work. I’m in the process of scanning my entire filing cabinet full of 30 years’ worth of paper and then shredding it.
Two of my points proven within seconds:
Me: we should file expense reports via emailed PDF instead of mailing originals
Boss: we already do that
So, like I said: I’m doing all I can to improve wealth, allthewhile the morons in my office are teaching me methods and policies from the Reagan era.
1. I have always liked to hold onto paper “just in case.”
2. I haven’t had time to do all this anyway.
But we are moving and I’m getting rid of bunches of stuff. I fear I may have donated part of a 2-piece gown I made, though. That would suck mightily.
I started watching 40-year old (regular season) baseball games over the winter. With the commercial breaks intact. It’s amazing how much slower the pace of the game is now. Commercial breaks are twice the length, and every modern player is a goddamned primadonna that has to step out of the batters box or pace around the mound after every fucking pitch.
Watch Pete Marovich playing HORSE against other NBA scorers. Side links have more clips of him playing horse against others.
The current NBA should do something like this. Exclude dunks. I want to watch stupid shots like this.
What if they decide they don’t need him?
FMLA is your friend. It makes it really hard for them to eliminate his position while he’s out “sick”. And if they sent him home, I think he can claim FMLA leave (not sure, not an expert). He should call HR and request that this be treated as FMLA leave.
I was watching Fox Business an hour ago, with breakfast. The usual suspects plus a couple guests (Steve Moore being one) were talking about the natives beginning to get restless and how destroying the country to save it is not an option. It hasn’t taken too long.
Mnunchin talking about 20 % unemployment, he and all the other lackeys need to step aside and let the market take over. CV is just a blip on the horizon of humanity but with the government in the way its gonna take a long time to recover.
Question to the glibs: do you wash everything you but in stores with hot water and soap? Or disinfect them? I poured myself a beer but I did not disinfect the bottle in advance… maybe I should
Nope.
I’m convinced I already had the disease, and I have nitrile kitchen gloves anyway.
also you don’t drink beer.
UCS’s glove collection – “I am Legion!”
Or legionnaire’s
If you’re that concerned spraying your stuff with rubbing alcohol and giving it a good wipe is probably sufficient.
I was produce. For packaged foods I don’t sterilize the packages. I wash my hands after preparing food anyway.
*wash produce
Yes for food packages I do the same but I realized I don’t for beer.
So who wants to do an online screening for their COVID-19 fears:
Cleveland Clinic offers free COVID-19 online screening tool
I’m really losing what little faith I had in humanity. Surprisingly, it didn’t tell me I have cancer.
It’s Lupus…
It’s never lupus…
It’s not cancer, it’s ebolaherpes.
It’s naht a toomah
Boober Eats.
https://www.instagram.com/booberpdx/?hl=en
Interesting update on Virginia:
http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/surveillance-and-investigation/novel-coronavirus/
Stuck on the I-95 corridor with the exception of Williamsburg and VA Beach. (a couple outliers like Charlottesville and Harrisonburg (university towns).
It’s VB to DC corridor. Basically, where all the money in Virginia is with the exception of Charlottesville.
Friday Funbags will never be quarantined!
http://archive.li/qI59g
Funny how the Taliban are completely unconcerned about polio, but Kung Flu… now there’s a real threat!
Hope this is real:
Trump Waives FDA Regulations, Opening Door For Chloroquine And Other Drugs To Be Used For Coronavirus Therapy
The FDA can get onboard or get out of the way.
The FDA can go get fucked. They’re pretty much nothing other than a bureaucrat employment program.
I heard the end of something on the radio last night. It sounded like a group of regular folks have decided to do a clinical trial of Chloroquine as a prophylactic against Coronavirus. The claim to be in discussions with Elon Musk about it and are looking for people to get involved.
Prophylactic for coronavirus? That’s the first I’ve heard of that – every other use I’ve heard of was to fight the virus in the already-corona-infected. I guess it is used as a prophylactic for malaria but I don’t know what the effectiveness rate for that has been.
My personal experience as related above – it’s pretty darn good. I took the pill once a week and on several occasions went to the wildest jungles and mountains in Sri Lanka. And the one guy who didn’t take the stuff picked up malaria there or in India.
As a treatment for existing coronavirus cases we’d be stupid to not allow it. Anecdotes about prophylactic use for malaria are beside the point as the data on that were collected 60 year ago. To claim prophylactic use for coronavirus will first require collecting enough data. Now’s as good a time as any to start.
I’m sure there will be people who demand to know “why weren’t we doing these prophylactic trials years ago???” without bothering to realize this virus wasn’t even discovered until 2019.
My apologies if my tone comes off bad. I don’t know where to find the data on the phrophylactic effectiveness for malaria. Obviously it is good enough to be on WHO’s list of essential medicines for the purpose, but I would like to know the statistical rate of effectiveness.
No worries. There are a number of similar drugs. Sounds like when the Malaria in an area builds up a tolerance for one, they switch to a different drug.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTi-g18ftNZUMRAj2SwRPodtscFio7bJ7GdNgbJAGbdfF67WuRJB3ZsidgpidB2eocFHAVjIL-7deJ7/pub
Discussed above.
link violates google’s terms of service.
Worked last night. I can’t view Google with this PC.
The internet still manages to interpret censorship as damage and route around it.
Also:
https://mrtopstep.com/elon-musk-says-maybe-an-effective-treatment-for-coronavirus-covid-19/
The link is about as a therapeutic, not a prophylactic.
I believe I linked this (or a similar) article on Tuesday. Interesting that Google now has a problem with it. Google is the IG Farben of the internet.
The FDA is saying “ 3 to 6 months” but the people doing the research are saying “weeks”. Hopefully this is one more in a long string of “emperor had no clothes” moments. That might be the silver lining in all this.
Yeah, this is the rare case where we already know about the safe part, now all we need is the “and effective” part. So I see no reason why a half a million people voluntarily taking the medicine prophylacticly would be a bad thing. In fact, you could start to see some preliminary answers in 2 weeks, if you had a well-designed cohort to compare with.
This is one case where those $1 elisa stick tests would be great. Everyone could just buy their own and self-monitor.
This is an extreme example of people rejecting the NOLA Katrina solution – just sit there in the squalor and wait for government. They called B.S. and are getting something done. Even if it turns out to be weak science, maybe it will point the way.
Heck, if it just cut down the infection rate by 10%, that would be huge for the spread of the disease.
As a prophylactic you’d have to see if it is effective for a period of time. As a therapeutic, “weeks” of research is all that’s necessary since the safety isn’t really a question when dosed properly.
I am not surprised that shit-for-brains journalists use therapeutic and prophylactic interchangeably.
Would have been even better if he’d broadcast a live meeting in “the board room” and given the head of the FDA “the cobra”.
I had a couple of PTO days i think you lot call em and used several hours to clean up the basement room corresponding to my apartment. God damn there was a lot of junk in there. A lot was glass plastic or metal which I took to the recycling containers on the street. I found some 20 year old paint cans and paint thinner and stuff and threw those in the standard trash and now I feel guilty I assume those can be hazardous. I have a bottle of methyl alcohol for some reason there which I did not throw away, a bottle of acetone which I don;t know if it goes bad and a large jar of something called sodium and potassium tartrate which I have no idea what it is for. I think I threw away a ton of junk. Still some left though. If I were more enterprising maybe I could have somehow monetized some of that shit but who knows…
“now I feel guilty I assume those can be hazardous.”
Think about all the hazardous shit the government dumps wherever they feel like and your guilt will disappear.
the problem is in Romania it is hard to find something tom properly dump hazardous stuff. Because you take it to the specialized collection center where they charge you and more often than not take it to the same dump afterwards.
I finally broke down and decided to work from home. More from a domestic tranquility standpoint than anything else.
Yesterday was mostly about cleaning and organizing my home office to be functional again. Maybe I’ll get some real work done today.
I worked from home the past couple of weeks. But I need to burn some vacation days.
I started 2020 with 40 days like a Eurocrat
“goes bad” is dependent on what you want to use it for. If you’re wanting to whip up a batch of TPTA, probably not a good idea. To remove nail polish, completely fine.
Texas Physical Therapy Association is the first google result. I don’t want to use it for anything now…
TATP.
so either triacetone triperoxide or TPTA mortal enemies the Texas Association of Therapy Physical
Splitters!
My what a very long bone you have
Thank you Mrs. Hubbard!
Corona! Corona! Corona!
Lime? Lime? Lime?
I said Doctor! Is there nothing I can take
I said Doctor! To relieve this bellyache
Put the lime in the coronut…
Been telling my girlfriend I have the vaccine for the Corona virus and can inject her with it all week.. She is giving me dirty looks…
And not the kind I want.
It took me far too long to find the non-clean version of this song.
Darker the colour, deeper the lockdown.
Fascinating map of global #coronavirus coronavirus countermeasures ( compiled by @O_LJ
)
https://twitter.com/BenQuinn75/status/1241002696666157057
Have you seen this site? It has by Country as well. It’s interesting how much lower Germany’s death rate is. They had virtually no restrictions until recently.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
yes i check it every day
My girlfriend and I were supposed to do a trip to Cork at the end of May for a weekend swing-dancing event. That has now been shuttered, as the event was cancelled. I’m bummed out for several reasons, one of which is that we’d planned to rent and drive a manual trans down the coast from Dublin to Cork. I normally drive automatic so this was sure to be a combination of beautiful, hilarious, embarrassing and frustrating. Oh well.
Oh you’re a swing dancer too! DEG does that. I think that’s neat!
There’s a couple of us here… though it’s been a couple years since I’ve been out dancing.
It’s how I met her. Certainly makes for a nice story, and it’s a fun hobby.
Pie – unfortunately all the local swing dance events are shuttering, too. No swing, no jiu jitsu, no lifting, no church this weekend – this stinks.
Find a swing event closer to you, although social distancing and whatnot
Well Loeffler indicated that she doesn’t have discretion. I’d assume that Burr is the same. Good luck with that.
However, as one who knows how this game is played, you CAN most certainly call your advisor at anytime indicate a change in your risk profile investment selections.
This is one steaming pile of bs.
The gun and ammunition rush could lead to a spike in firearm suicides and domestic violence incidents, however.
As Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva explained during a press conference on Monday, “buying guns is a bad idea.”
“You have a lot of people now who are at home, normally they’re not, cabin fever sets in and you have a crowded environment,” he said. “Weapons are not a good mix.”
Indeed, research has consistently found that firearms in the home significantly increase instances of suicide homicide — and unintentional shootings. …
States with more guns also see more unintentional deaths. The mortality rate is seven times higher “in the four states with the most guns compared to the four states with the fewest guns,” the Harvard researchers tell us.
And, so, if the best way to stop the coronavirus pandemic is to listen to the guidance of health professionals and scientists, then Americans must also tune out the grifters who are using this crisis to sell more firearms and embrace the overwhelming and conclusive science around the dangers of gun ownership.
I said the words and so it shall be.
This sheriff must be terrified of everyone in his office.
Disarm the deputies.
Well, they certainly hope that would be the case, but even if it isn’t they’lll just bend some stats, join some dots, and rationalize it to the themselves that they were right anyway.
Fuck You Slaver.
Oh fuck off. Yes owning a firearm comes with certain dangers. But their are certain benefits that come with it to. So fuck off.
Always. On. Message.
There is no sane way to possibly connect gun ownership to coronavirus but these commie fucks will twist themselves into pretzels to associate their favored hobby horse.
Well he’s not wrong. Buying guns is a bad idea.
You should steal them (or if you are stiff necked about the NAP, you could buy some scuba gear and recover one of those guns that was lost in a tragic boating accident) because then there is absolutely no way to trace it back to you.
As Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva explained during a press conference on Monday, “buying guns is a bad idea.”
“Sheriff Villaneuva, two questions:
First, how man guns did your department buy last year, and how many rounds of ammunition?
Second, do you prohibit your employees from owning their own guns?”
overwhelming and conclusive science – what is that science that is so conclusive on such a political topic?
It’s the studies that get the good communist seal of approal. Like Lysenko’s work before he became an unperson.
They’ll point to things like -> More Guns lead to More gun deaths. Ok, but then they ignore “More guns” leads to less violent crime. So they want you to focus on some dangers, but discount the safety the guns bring. AND the safety is increased more than the danger is increased.
wHuT aBoUt ThE cHiLdReN!
They need to be armed too.
“States with more guns also see more unintentional deaths. The mortality rate is seven times higher ‘in the four states with the most guns compared to the four states with the fewest guns,’ the Harvard researchers tell us.”
Citation needed.
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Harvard. Researchers.
Are you a Harvard Researcher? I thought not.
Shouldn’t they be researching Harvard and not opining on things beyond their understanding?
There is no consistent correlation between prevalence of gun-ownership and violence among states or among countries. Anyone who uses that argument is ignorant or lying.
A variation on the Pravda standard, “it is well known that…”
Even if they could show a correlation between gun ownership and crime rates, it still wouldn’t prove that guns cause crime. It could easily be the case that people see all the crime around them and buy a gun for their own safety.
If being stuck inside with your family and a firearm leads to suicide and murders (not necessarily in that order), North Dakota would never have been populated. If staying home now with streaming services, video games and other stuff is enough to trigger a spree of gun violence, how could living in a sod hut (with no running water, no indoor plumbing, no electric lights, etc) on the prairie not result in every settler being dead by January?
“suicide homicide”. Did they accidentally leave out a comma, or are they creating a new phrase to conflate suicide with murder?
If you’re not already using Brave, here’s your opportunity to start.
https://www.wired.com/story/study-ranks-the-privacy-of-major-browsers-here-are-the-findings/
You think I’m going to trust Wired?
With the built in crypto crap you have to place a lot of trust in the Brave devs and their servers. I trust my User.js tweaks and plugins in Firefox more.
Official day one of my quarentine. My kids are idiots…that is all.
Stores here in Henderson are realtively quite and no longer getting slammed. Paper products still out but meat was restocked, milk and eggs on display.
Now that Cali went into lockdown I suspect the idiot government of Nevada will once again say hold muh beer and put us in a 60-day lockdown.
I’m just starting vacation today. slept in really late. Need to shower and head out to see what our grocery store looks like. I will not sit on my couch all day on my phone. I will not sit in my couch all day on my phone.
I thought I was the only resident Nevadan.
If I have to drive all the way into Vegas for toilet paper I’m going to be perturbed.
Reposted from dead thread – My jaw is actually sore from grinding my dentures. I catch myself doing it at work. It’s probably the reason that Festus has dentures. Festus is stressed the fuck out.
But your jaw muscles must be massive from all the exercise!
Are you calling me bitey? No, I had the misfortune of inheriting my Scottish teeth. They went south long before the rest of me. My Dad had one tooth in his mouth when he passed and Mom had all of hers not that helped in the end. My brother is a drug addict low-life and he has all of his teeth. I got the bad genes. I was exceedingly vain about my looks when younger. This is the design…
I use a night guard. Otherwise I wouldn’t have teeth.
Too late. Bad dreams, too?
I use a night guard too. I discovered the bad dreams were from dehydration – keeping my body too warm during the night. Once I figured that out the bad dreams stopped.
Nah, it’s just a subconscious behavior. Probably has a genetic component. My mother clenches her jaw while asleep too.
If you feel you have to hide your material, you’re a propagandist, not a teacher.
https://campusreform.org/?ID=14563
F*&^ing hell! Really? They are that rutting stupid and lacking in self-awareness?
OH NOEZ!
I bet these “professors” all teach some of the same stupid shit. and are worried once people see what they are paying vs, what the kids heads are being filled with, these professors might all be out of jobs…
cum-circles.
learn to code
Sunlight is the best disinfectant, except when it isn’t.
They’re afraid they’ll actually have to prove their assertions – aka practice academic rigor.
Proofs are racist.
The science is settled. It is irrefutable that guns and ammo in the home increase happiness and longevity exponentially.
Not sure how I brooksed that
*has a sad*
Anyone who hasn’t heard The Jacket’s discussion with Richard Epstein from Wednesday, it’s a good listen. Richard Epstein is one of the last great polymaths and true academics.
And he didn’t kill himself.
Annnnnnnnd OSHA just weighed in with paperwork bullshit concerning the recording of coronavirus transmission at work.
What a crock of shit.
“On Friday I saw some
Wuhan‘novel‘ coronaviruses fly out of Jones’ nose, and right onto Wilkerson’s eyeball, wherein they were absorbed into his body through the eyelid when he blinked. Recommended OSHA training for sneezing safely in the workplace.”Work from home is jank af.
Aparently someone at my work had COVID and i didn’t know about it at all.
Good thing i work from home.
why? don’t yah kinda want it?
He’s waiting for Winnie the Flu.
Welp, I was supposed to be on a plane to Ireland this afternoon for a week’s vacation.
That ain’t gonna happen.
I may partially get a refund from ryanair for my London tickets. This is no time to go to London no siree.
Gotta take my kid to work. I have a bunch of errands. I’ve been out every day this week and I do not intend to try to take my kid to work from home. My nose doesn’t twitch so I can’t make things happen magically.
Then stop flying around on a broom. It sends mixed messages.
Coronavirus: Germany introduces first lockdown as Bavaria imposes two-week ban on going outside
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-germany-update-lockdown-today-bavaria-latest-a9413746.html
aren’t they experiencing like a .2% mortality rate in Deutschland? nuts.
to be fair if you gonna lockdown do it before SHTF
Yes, stay inside where the virus can survive longer rather than going outside where it’s survival chances are greatly reduced.
Modern man is teh stupid.
Just found out UTA cancelled all of their summer programs, so my ladyfriend’s teaching in Montreal is not happening this year. 🙁
you were looking forward to some alone time?
We are fantastic together until we start hating each other. It makes for wonderful weekends and vacations.
Dude. It’s been forty years but you must visit that city! Free-wheeling place that hates you! Newcouver can suck tits and Edmonton will never change but Montreal… They don’t package them like that in the rest of the continent. The Queen City of summer dresses.
I’ve been, and I enjoy visiting Montreal. I’ve never encountered the hostility that supposedly exists towards Americans. Maybe because I have enough French to have them believe I’m trying to fit in?
She teaches there every summer. Sometimes we just stay there, sometimes we go to other Francophonic towns. We had already picked out this place for one of the weekends: https://lagrandegourmandise.org/
J’aimerais bien voyager à Mont-réal et Quebec City.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045897/mediaviewer/rm2808518656
Just remembered I have Business Interruption insurance. Now I just have to go thru the exemptions and exclusions, etc…
on the double: while your insurance firm still exists!
It’s going to be the first beautiful Spring weekend here, and I was looking forward to making burgers on the grill. Wife just called to say the supermarket is out of fresh beef. They only have the plant based crap. I can handle the TP, bread, and dried rice shortages. Shortages on beef though… this has gone too far.
To add some clarity, I think the direct cash payments are based on 2018 and they only use 2019 if you don’t have a 2018. From reading the bill, the final adjustments are for 2020 and will be done as a credit on you 2020 taxes. So I had a tax deduction born in 2019 that I wouldn’t initially receive a payment for, but I could claim that $500 as a credit on my 2020 tax return above and beyond the standard child tax credit.
The kids have made me a net gain on Fed tax credits, but I’m still deep in the red after all the bullshit FICA taxes.
FIFY
Hah!
Don’t know about you, but I’m totally off the “flatten the curve” bandwagon. If the government can’t figure out how to keep the old and sick safe, fuck the government. You don’t get to turn the US into a gulag because you’re incompetent. People across centuries have paid with their lives for the rights we have today and I’m disgusted how people are so quick to throw them away for supposed “security”. As the saying goes, we’re gonna get neither.
If this California nobody-can-leave-their-houses bullshit happens here, I’m going to get end up getting arrested, because there’s no way in hell I’m complying with that bullshit.
California shelter in place in effect. Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) is still running. Government planning at its finest.
Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) is still running.
I wouldn’t be surprised if riding BART gives you the greatest risk of catching the CCP Virus.
We can still go out for walks or a bike ride. I was out riding yesterday, and there were plenty of people walking and driving around. Far less than usual, but it’s not a ghost town.
There used to be a time when our chattering classes understood math (although they incorrectly called it “maths” at that point in time, so ymmv).
So here’s an informed recommendation: All diseases spread through a social network (the real kind) if you think of a social network as a directed graph with edges that point away from sick people to healthy people. The value of every edge is the product of the number of interactions over time * a probability of transmission for the type of interaction.
This leads to geometric progression of “the curve” for a given geographical population. Each population center is going to have an upward elbow in the graph *eventually* given a sufficiently communicable disease. The question is when will the elbow happen? Today? Tomorrow? In 3 weeks?
Assuming countereasures are being developed over time, (finding the right anti-viral, manufacturing more ventilators, training more hospital staff) we can either live in a world where the elbow happens with more countermeasures in place, or a world where fewer countermeasures in place. When the elbow happens, lives will be lost in inverse proportion to the level of countermeasures at the time of the elbow.
Fuck the government. You can’t influence their behavior.
You can control your behavior. You can reduce the weight of your edges by reducing the frequency of your interactions with your social network. Work from home if you are a pixel jockey. Reduce the number of interactions you have by going out once for a combined gas/grocery/hardware run instead of three runs out. Practice good hygiene while you are out-and-about on your reduced trips.
Concern yourself with your own personal behavior and your own personal responsibilities. “But the government is being a big meanie so I’m going to go act irresponsibly” is the way a petulant child acts, not a responsible adult.
You can control your behavior.
And that’s the way it is going to end up regardless of what the government does. I’m in no way advocating for people “to go an act irresponsibly”. I’m advocating the exact opposite: Be as protective of your rights as you would be of those who are vulnerable.
I see.
I interpreted “I’m totally off the “flatten the curve” bandwagon” as “I am no longer going to change any of my behavior to reduce my likelyhood of transmission”. Maybe just because I hang out with degenerate libertarians online too much, but I’ve seen flatten the curve to refer to private action as well as public. (The irony being that actually following big L libertarianism, NAP, etc should actually call libertarians to a higher standard of pro-social behavior than normies, not a lower one. Despite the stereotype of selfishness, anti-social behavior, etc).
Brevity is the enemy of Ancaps. We tend to say stuff that can be easily misinterpreted.
*tips his monocle in a gentlemanly fashion*
Wait, are you suggesting that individuals should seek to attain a higher standard of moral behavior without being forced to or requiring everyone to be forced to?
I know, crazy right.
If this was an attempt to demonstrate that I am being inconsistent with being OK with government influencing behavior in the face of disease outbreak, I should point out that I have always thought communicating a communicable disease when reasonable safeguards would have prevented it to be a violation of the NAP and a legitimate use of government power is the prevention of aggression.
counterpoint: You sure are making “reasonable” do a lot of work there.
me: Yeah, I know.
The question is when will the elbow happen? Today? Tomorrow? In 3 weeks?
Or last week or last month. Don’t confuse “confirmed via testing” with “actual”.
Possible, but do you really think its likely? If that happened, and if it is as communicable as such a scenario suggests, and if it impacts the elderly, it should be ripping through every assisted living center in the country.
But when it does, its still newsworthy, which implies this scenario has not happened. Purely anecdotally, my wife provides pastoral care to a number of people in assisted living environments and they aren’t dropping like flies or even showing symptoms like flies.
So I do think the infection rate in the general population is rather higher than the official numbers. But I don’t think we’ve hit the elbow yet, based on some Bayesian logic but I didn’t do the math.
And if I’m wrong, what’s the cost? I can’t send my kids to a closed school or show up at a locked office or go into a locked gym? I’m foregoing some outdoor activities I would otherwise be taking. I’m foregoing some social outings. That’s a fairly low cost.
And the knock-on positives are real – I’m reducing the likelyhood of contracting and transmitting influenza and strep, which kills a lot of people.
No on net, yeah, its a possibility that still doesn’t point in the direction of changing behavior away from individual action to “flatten the curve”. Notice that I said this whole time to work from home if you are a pixel jockey. If your job involves moving atoms instead of pixels, the personal and social cost could be much higher (unless those atoms are Gamespot products, I guess).
Possible, but do you really think its likely? If that happened, and if it is as communicable as such a scenario suggests, and if it impacts the elderly, it should be ripping through every assisted living center in the country.
Data points in favor of this theory:
We know it was loose in China in early December, and probably earlier than that.
Literally tens of thousands of people travelled back and forth from China before travel was shut down. If it is as transmissible as it looks, it is highly unlikely that it didn’t get here in December, if not earlier.
Most cases, we now know, are either asymptomatic or lightly symptomatic, and would have been written off as flu or a bad head cold before this became an identified national issue.
We have had odd spikes in flu symptoms that didn’t test out as flu, but would be consistent with a CCP Virus infection. Since they weren’t tested for the CCP Virus at the time, we can’t confirm or deny that it was the CCP Virus. But that still leaves the question of what it was.
We have widespread anecdotes of a really bad cold that presented the same symptoms as the CCP Virus. See above on “Since they weren’t testing at the time”.
We didn’t test, so the recent rapid increase in confirmed cases only tells us that we have more confirmed cases, and doesn’t tell us how many actual cases we have now, and certainly not before we started testing. IOW, the increase in confirmed cases is not evidence that it hasn’t been here from before it was identified and tested for. The fact that we haven’t hit the elbow for confirmed cases doesn’t mean we haven’t already hit the elbow for actual cases. We just don’t know, and very possibly never will.
One more thing:
if it impacts the elderly, it should be ripping through every assisted living center in the country.
Data is still developing, but it looks like the mortality rate for the elderly is somewhat, but not greatly, higher than for flu. It could well have flown under the radar, even in elderly populations.
The problem is, there is a giant black hole in the data, that hasn’t closed yet, because testing has been very constrained. Actual is unknown, but conflating actual with confirmed is certainly an error.
It is MATHEMATICS
Hear hear
I’m not taking sides, and it’s just the math, but I just came to understand:
Flattening the curve theoretically saves the lives of virus patients and the general public . . . . at the expense of killing more normal ICU patients. Every extra day that the virus dominates the load of our ICU capacity means 80% more of ICU patients die (17% of them die anyway in normal circumstances).
Drive careful, folks!
I used “flatten the curve” as a stand in for “government policy”. It might be a fine policy, but the way it’s being enforced is extremely dangerous and IMHO more dangerous than the virus.
^^^This. At this point, I don’t give a flying fuck whether the policy is sound; it’s not worth the cost. Being a free individual implies a certain level of risk, there is no such thing as absolute safety. If we’re so fucking terrified of this that we’re willing to voluntarily submit to house arrest, then we’re a lot further gone than I thought we were.
We’ve become a nation of Randy Marsh’s. It’s sad.
*writes in straffin-san for President*
The lessons will be there after all of this has passed. That’s when it will be important to lean on the government to change as we will have actual results and examples. Nothing I say or do will affect the outcome right now. The government is going to do what it will, spring breakers will do what they will, etc..
Of course, that’s when everyone else will have forgotten about it and gone back to watching Big Brother.
The Right Key, But The Wrong Keyhole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZlPTCsWR60&feature=emb_logo
Parody is nigh impossible.
Ummm, may be that’s because it is “non-essential”, if not outright detrimental.
Yeah, how can a service not specifically set up to deliver food to trans patients ever be expected to deliver food to them?
Nevermind that this is a choice to become dependent on others.
I have sympathy for the cancer patients, the elderly, those who cannot take care of themselves due to extraneous circumstances, but this person chose to become at least a temporary invalid.
Are suicide rates just as high post op as pre op?
Heh, good luck getting those numbers as the trans lobby shouts down anyone who raises concerns about their agenda.
Furious Brits call for boycott of Wetherspoons after its CEO claims closing pubs to halt spread of coronavirus would be ‘over the top’ (but his friend Boris Johnson refuses to criticise him)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8133303/Pubs-packed-revellers-despite-calls-social-distancing.html
also thicc?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8134799/Love-Islands-Megan-Barton-Hanson-strips-lacy-lingerie-marks-return-OnlyFans.html
I’d tap that…
How can you boycott if the government shuts them down?
Well, England has banned revelry (and Christmas!) before…
That led to roving gangs going around forcing shopkeepers to open, and rival gangs going around forcing them to close.
Rape the wanton girls, open the borders to the rest of the planet, lose your place in the hierarchy of things. Nope. The one thing that will make Brits freak the fuck out is Pub shut-downs.
Can they charge you with being insufficiently neurotic in the UK?
Poor Puppers is going off to the groomer today to get her toenails shorn. She needs a bath first. Pupper no likey! I’d do it my self but little black dog is black and her toenails are black as pitch.
Talk me be back, Festus. I’m fucking irate at what’s been happening. Threw back a few too many tonight and am trying to cool off.
You are a Dad. That is the most important and vital job that you’ve ever held in your life. Shit hits the fan, who will your daughter turn to? You, you lummox.
Great advice.
Tis true. Had a nice night of Karioke with the family and our momma circle. Rode or bicycles there. One of the mothers had front and back child seats on here. For some reason, her bike had “Turbo Lover” stenciled on it. It was a good night.
Sounds to me sir like you are still doing this the right way despite whatever else.
“Turbo Lover”
Was she of the variety that you’d like to test her claim?
The two child seats proved it to me.
Soft R+B version plays gently in Festus’ head.
More Barry White…
Our dog was supposed to get groomed today but the groomer cancelled…..more silly panicking
Lockdown? not yet, so Bella’s going to take me for a walk in the park in the Brilliant Sunshine of the Arizona spring….
Howdy!
@ Banjos, great minds? I have been posting the Dead South links for a few weeks now……….
What’s the deal with “getting checked?” Local news filled with panicky interviews with people who have been trying to get checked for days to see if they have the Chinavirus.
Hey, if you are feeling sick, do the right thing and self-quarantine yourself, even if it is a common cold or the regular flu. No need to be “checked” is there? If whatever you have gets serious, get to the hospital and they’ll determine what you have. If it isn’t serious, just because you test positive to Chinavirus that doesn’t mean the hospital is going to admit you until your case gets serious.
Makes no sense. You might have allergies, a cold, or China sickness. If you get better in short order, you probably didn’t have China Virus – unless you had a mild case and are now infecting everyone else.
Either get tested at a lab or don’t worry.
Yep. Wifey had a nasty bug last week and I had some sniffles and frequent evacuations but not the Raven.
the problem may be if you are an asymptomatic carrier and give it to some older sickly relative
Well since I’m no longer allowed to visit my parents, that kinda fixes that, no?
Signaling, “Look at me, I have CV” now gimme my free shit!
The #FluToo movement begins!
Somehow there is some conflating getting tested versus getting sick and dying. It is stupid or mischievous.
As I have been relentlessly beating the drum at work:
This is just another bug. We deal with them all the time. There is nothing we should be doing differently for this. If you feel sick, you should always have been staying home. If you are caring for someone with a communicable disease, you should always have been using the right PPE.
This. Is. Just. Another. Bug. Not really any different, as near as we can tell (and the data is bending in that direction, I believe) as a flu bug. Same precautions, same transmissability, many of the same symptoms, same mortality rate. Sure, its a different virus that is more respiratory focussed than the flu, but c’mon. Your behavior should be exactly the same.
As much as I’m arguing for taking protective measures elsewhere, I also agree with this.
I also think anyone who can work from home at the first sign of a cold should fucking do so, and should stay the fuck out of public. I get pretty pissed off when I see someone “powering through” when they could fucking power through from their home.
I also think anyone who can work from home at the first sign of a cold should fucking do so, and should stay the fuck out of public. I get pretty pissed off when I see someone “powering through” when they could fucking power through from their home.
I get five sick days a year, no work from home. I’m often around kids. If I stayed home for every cold, I’d lose my job. I’m a power through kind of guy, but you can blame my employer for that. (I am looking for a new/better job, this is on the long list of reasons why. But in the meantime, I work while sick).
Then you aren’t someone who can work from home when sick.
I’m talking about people like my sister’s mangelment, who demand everyone show up at the office complex to press buttons on a computer and telephone. The corporate culture at her office was show up rain or shine, in sickness or in health. IT had everyone working from home in about 6 hours, because all already had laptops and company issued cell phone (yes, in 2020 they aren’t byod yet). She’s reporting that its taking management much longer to adjust their cultural expectations.
So if you are a pixel jokey who has to show up, I blame your management. If you are moving atoms and need to be there because of that, we (he pixel jockeys) should be staying out of spaces you need to be so you are less likely to get sick while you are there because you have to be.
Shopped again late yesterday (got a semi-panicky call from some friends who wanted to come and have dinner with us, afraid that there might be a “shelter in place” order issued soon and that they wouldn’t see us for many weeks afterwards . . . ). Unbeknownst to us, we of course gave each other the as-yet-asymptomatic Wubonic Plague, so it’s been nice knowin’ all of you.
Everything was more-or-less normal at places like Safeway, which only seemed to lack the national brands of bread loaves. If you just wanted bread, their bakery was cranking out product as usual, and the shelves were full. The only place I saw anything out of the ordinary was the local Costco, which had security guards controlling access to the store and the attached Costco liquor store (quick explainer: in Alberta, Costco’s liquor selection is not allowed to be integrated into the main store, which is kind of a PITA, but the upside is that Costco Liquor has to take all comers as customers — not just Costco members — and thus everyone gets to enjoy their stunningly low prices on booze).
The local Safeway was putting limits on certain items such as packages of ground beef, but everyone was in good spirits and there was only the usual good-natured grumbling, compounded slightly by the fact that this particular store is undergoing a renovation, and thus, everything is somewhere other than where it’s “supposed” to be.
You don’t get to turn the US into a gulag because you’re incompetent.
*rises from chair, hums Star Spangled Banner*
CNNPC is on:
The nodders are outraged (OUTRAGED!!!) by the cavalier attitude of those yutes on the beach in Florida.
How dare they refuse to participate our our panicky rush into the arms of Big Nanny?
Nothing pisses off the nanny staters more than people that flaunt their stupidity and refuse to comply.
Asking 19 year-old Festus to comply to basically anything was like begging for a busted nose.
I had the dubious honor of sending my underlings an email today instructing them to work from home. I also asked them to tell me if they planned to go into the plant for a few. Just about all of them are going in plant for at least a quick roundup prior to the weekend.
It’s so silly, this California shelter in place crap. They’ve predicted 55% infection rate in CA. So if we come up low, they’ll say “see? The quarantine worked” but if we hit 55% they’ll say that proves how badly we needed their guidance.
It’s like a can of elephant repellant. Tell me that stuff don’t work!!
“Lisa, I want to buy your rock.”
https://frinkiac.com/episode/S07E23/273589
^ this
The beauty of this is the number will have to be extrapolated (made up) since testing 40MM is not going to happen and shouldn’t.
“Rollin Rollin Rollin! Keep that Panic Rollin…
So trump is going to give everyone money but me and my wife.
You are kind of an asshole.
This litmus test tastes like shit.
Of course.
What flavor? “”We need some HM over here!”
My home town. I’m so proud. (Not CV related)
They should have kids and name them Neil and Robert so people can aske them if that’s their names or what they do… You know, kneel and bob…
they’ll say “see? The quarantine worked” but if we hit 55% they’ll say that proves how badly we needed their guidance.
Exactly. And then they’ll say, “This never would have happened absent the epidemic of toxic individuality and the libertarian cultists who refuse to allow the government to help people.”
I don’t remember who linked Stella before but it’s well worth the three minutes. https://youtu.be/Tu3HN-MmJc4
Oh my, yes!
FN Five-seven…..anyone got any opinions to share? Not that I have the scratch for one of them right now – costly buggers, they are – but the discussions of people buying up guns has got me to pondering. I find it very intriguing. Lightweight, accurate, low-recoil, less likely to over-penetrate. Ruger 57 would qualify as well.
Seems gimmicky to me.
9mm is cheap and plentiful, and it still hurts.
Scruffy nails it.
I rented one once to see what the buzz was about. It’s OK.
I didn’t feel the need to buy one after shooting one though.
I tried one a few times in Counterstrike. It was no Desert Eagle
Delineate the situations where a full sized 9mm would fail to get the job done, but 57 (not the armor piercing type you can’t have) will. Is that worth the $$ and risk of supply interruptions? I don’t think it is.
Obligatory copypasta
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I bought a PS90 as a vanity gun and it’s teh shiznit. Not really interested in the pistol though.
9mm is cheap and plentiful, and it still hurts.
You could even go with one of these with hot hollow points. Pain and suffering would result.
City of Atlanta is implementing no dine in, gym, movie theater, “other entertainment” venues. Somehow, the mayor also waved her magic wand and made to-go alcohol sales legal for restaurants doing take out. Three steps back, one stop forward?
Meanwhile, Athens-Clarke Co., home of UGA, went for a full pant load and enacted a 24/7 lockdown except for “essential activities”.
GA updated to 420 confirmed cases and 13 fatalities this morning from 287 and 10 yesterday.
I have it on good authority that Katie Pavlich likes anal.
And there it is… NY on lockdown starting Sunday. The next three days of panic hoarding are going to be fun.
De Blasio’s erection can be seen from space.
I’m expecting a bombastic speech from a balcony sometime today.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056868/mediaviewer/rm3237253633
Sorry, Rhy.
There will be runs on Booze, Blow, and Bitchez….
I went to grab a few things this morning and it appears there was a run on frozen crawfish tails. Seems everybody in the county wanted to make Jambalaya too. I was baffled.
NY on lockdown starting Sunday.
Monkey see, monkey do.
We’re all Nationalized Socialists now.
One size straitjacket fits all.
I hear Florida is going to go under a NYS like Quarantine.
And here we go…
First thing we do, let’s kill all the medical ethicists
An epidemic is a test not just of our mettle but our morals. In a time of lockdowns and quarantines, restaurant closings and shuttered schools, the temptation is often to bend the rules, relying on the familiar just-this-once or it-couldn’t-hurt dodge. Even when we’re trying to behave well, there are moral conundrums that present themselves—situations in which we have to choose between one of two options and neither one is risk-free. TIME spoke to Arthur Caplan, director of the Division of Medical Ethics at New York University’s Grossman School of Medicine, about some of the most common moral dilemmas associated with the coronavirus.
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Is it OK to have sex with my partner?
No. I would say unless you’ve just been tested and waited five days that you shouldn’t. No kissing either. I think it’s just too much of a risk that one of you might be infected. Also, we have to remember that older people have sex too and they’re especially in danger. In nursing homes it’s important to explain these risks to the residents.
Why don’t you find a nice tall bridge and fling yourself off onto a hard surface below?
What i cant stand about these articles about “ethics” is that the writer never explains a principle behind his ethics. It’s just “Don’t do this because you i think you shouldn’t”.
Better than tree leaves, I suppose.
https://twitter.com/MoriahJovan/status/1241042544319967232?s=19
Can I go to the pharmacy if I need to?
If you have to pick up medication of course you should, but more pharmacies are doing home delivery now.
Sure they are. In Manhattan. What a fucking jackass.
Read your rant, Leon.
A+
Thanks!