GlibFit 4.0 – Low T Birthdays

by | Aug 14, 2022 | GlibFit | 263 comments

Artwork by RJ on exhibit at the Piscataway DMV.

It’s R.J.’s birthday today. R.J. isn’t sure if he’s 56 or 57. Whatever it is, happy birthday bro. Now that R.J. is a man of a certain age, as am I, he may be wondering why those gains at the gym are a little harder to come by.

Testosterone levels in men decline by 1-2% per year starting around age 30. I’m no scientician, but I believe this occurs because nature is a bitch. Also, can you imagine what life would be for your grandmother if your retired grandfather had his full complement of testosterone?

The good news for us *cough* middle aged *cough* men is there are ways to naturally increase testosterone levels.

 

Exercise and Lift Weights

A large review study found that people who exercised regularly had higher testosterone levels. In the elderly, exercise increases testosterone levels, fitness and reaction time. Resistance training, such as weight lifting, is the best type of exercise to boost testosterone in both the short- and long-term. High-intensity interval training (HIIT) can also be very effective, although all types of exercise should work to some extent. Taking caffeine and creatine monohydrate as supplements may further boost your levels when combined with a training program

 

Eat Well

Constant dieting or overeating may disrupt your testosterone levels. Eating enough protein can help maintain healthy levels and aid in fat loss, which is also associated with your testosterone.

Carb intake also plays a role, with research showing carbs can help optimize testosterone levels during resistance training. Healthy fats are also beneficial for testosterone.

A diet based mainly on whole foods is best, with a healthy balance of fat, protein and carbs. This can optimize both hormone levels and long-term health.

 

Minimize Stress

Research is always highlighting the dangers of long-term stress, which can elevate levels of the hormone cortisol. Unnatural elevations in cortisol can quickly reduce testosterone. These hormones work in a seesaw-like manner: as one goes up, the other comes down. Stress and high cortisol can also increase food intake, weight gain and the storage of harmful body fat around your organs. In turn, these changes may negatively impact your testosterone levels.

 

Get Some Sun

Get outside during the day. Sunlight on your body gets it to produce Vitamin D. Failing that, take a Vitamin D supplement. A 12-month study found that supplementing with around 3,000 IU of vitamin D3 per day increased testosterone levels by around 25%.

 

Get Some Sleep

The ideal amount of sleep varies from person to person, but one study found that sleeping only 5 hours per night was linked to a 15% reduction in testosterone levels. One long-term study observed that those who slept only four hours per night had borderline deficient levels. Other long-term studies support this. One study calculated that for every additional hour of sleep you get, testosterone levels rise 15% higher, on average.

Keep those T levels up, R.J. Mrs. R.J. is counting on you.

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263 Comments

  1. hayeksplosives

    Wow; the vitamin D link is strong at 25%. And now we know vitamin D is also important for immune health too.

    Hormones are weird. When I lived in Sweden, during the winters, when there was almost no sunlight at all (and if you didn’t go outside for lunch, you’d miss even the little β€œtwilight” of sun there was) I stopped having periods until Spring. I suppose my body was saying β€œnope, not enough sunlight to have kids. Conditions suck at this time.”

    • Mustang

      Yeah that’s pretty wild. Vitamin D seems like the miracle vitamin. I get about 2000IU a day from supplements, so I’m probably good there when you include outdoor activity and food.

    • Chafed

      Wow! I had no idea a sustained lack of sunlight has that effect on LadyGlibs.

      • hayeksplosives

        I’m not exactly normal; doc said I am β€œanovulatory” meaning I horde my eggs and never could get pregnant. So when I was around 33 I had an endometrial ablation to stop the annoying irregular (and heavy) periods.

        Much better now, 15 years later!

  2. hayeksplosives

    Chafed, do you think there’s anything to the theory that female hormones in the water supply (due to birth control and post menopausal supplements) are reducing the amount of testosterone in men?

    I’m skeptical but I’m no expert.

    • Mustang

      Well, it’s probably what’s turning the frogs gay.

    • DEG

      I’m skeptical.

    • Chafed

      I’m no expert either but I am skeptical. I would think you need a closed water system, as a start, for that to matter. I would also need to know what affect sunlight, naturally occurring bacteria in the water, and chemicals used in water treatment has on the excreted hormones and supplements.

      • Lackadaisical

        Certain areas, e.g. the great Lakes, and if you get your water downstream from other areas in a river will have wastewater mixes in with your drinking water.

        Water treatment will not remove estrogen from the water.

    • Tundra

      I think the effects of estrogenic compounds are absolutely having an impact. I doubt, however, that the water supply is the culprit. Certain plastics, foods, etc. are playing hell with hormones.

      Low T sure is a boon for the globalists, though. Just sayin.

  3. Mustang

    Is this why my previously thick hair is now disappointingly thinning? I think it’s a combination of stress and genetics.

    Over the last week I’ve completely recommitted to getting ripped. Used to have that motivation and got to the gym six days a week and was antsy to get back in the seventh. That motivation is back, baby, and I’m ready to crush it.

    Mainly because I need the energy to keep up with the kid (and all future ones), but I also want to model the activity for them and not look like a dad-slob.

      • Mustang

        Gracias. I’ll give it a shot.

    • Chafed

      1. Yes, it is.
      2. Good for you. Go get some.

    • Rat on a train

      Hair, like many people, migrates to warmer areas with age.

    • R.J.

      Me too. I started working our with weights two weeks ago. Damn I am out of shape. Great timing on the article!

      • DEG

        Better late than never. Happy Birthday!

      • R.J.

        Thanks! Tall Thin Spaniard what Lurks told me I was 56. He keeps up with these things for me.

    • Lackadaisical

      COVID causes thinning as well.

  4. DEG

    Artwork by RJ on exhibit at the Piscataway DMV.

    πŸ™‚

    Chafed, excellent work. There is a NJ Motor Vehicle Commission location in Piscataway, NJ according to Google maps.

    Also, can you imagine what life would be for your grandmother if your retired grandfather had his full complement of testosterone?

    She’d be tired and complaining about being worn out? That is, if any of my grandmothers were still alive.

    One study calculated that for every additional hour of sleep you get, testosterone levels rise 15% higher, on average.

    So I should be sleeping all the time? πŸ˜‰

    I’m back to a regular gym schedule. However, I’m not back to a regular sleeping schedule. Apropos for the article. I was really wiped out on Friday and struggled to finish my training session. Same on Saturday. I’m feeling good today and am probably shooting myself in the foot by day drinking. Lunch at Ye Olde Irish Pub was good.

    • Mojeaux

      Also, can you imagine what life would be for your grandmother if your retired grandfather had his full complement of testosterone?

      Well, there’s this thing called menopause that will, in fact, turn a 30-, 40-, 50-something XX from raging libido to “don’t touch me”. How fast that happens depends on nature, genetics, and/or surgical intervention. I guess women come out of it, based on anecdotal STD rates amongst the elderly.

      • DEG

        A friend of mine that moved to The Villages was talking about setting me up with an older woman so that I could move down there.

      • Mojeaux

        It may just be me. I wrote about it on the forum.

      • Old Man With Candy

        It’s fortunate SP had a very late menopause. We didn’t see this effect.

    • Chafed

      Tonio, editor supreme, gets all credit for the artwork.

      Good job in the gym.

      • DEG

        Tonio, editor supreme, gets all credit for the artwork.

        OK. Kudos to Tonio.

        And, kudos to you Chafed for keeping this series going.

        Good job in the gym.

        Thanks! It was… rough. I think I came a bit close to dinging the herniation. I felt a bit sloppy with my core bracing, but… there was no shooting pain while deadlifting. Trap bar with 235 lbs for eight reps for my last set of deadlifts. Belt squats and sled work afterwards. Any pain in relation to my herniation came long after my training session.

    • R.J.

      I just got back from having cigars all morning with a double bourbon, then BBQ at Hard Eight, same place we ate. I am happy and content, but I really have to pick up the weight workouts next week.

      • DEG

        That sounds like a great day.

      • Don escaped Texas

        needz more horses and puppies

        but, yeah, pretty good day

      • R.J.

        I had dogs the size of horses sleeping on me in the late afternoon, and when I got home I was surrounded by kittens. Fairly close!

      • Don escaped Texas

        “moar”

        when beer gets in the way of your posting

  5. DEG

    Oh… that’s a good Sabbath song.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Aw, so young and cute. Kelly’s paternity is not in doubt.

      • DEG

        ?

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Sorry, post presumably eaten. Daughter Kelly is a ringer for Ozzy.

      • DEG

        Right. Sorry. I forgot his daughter is named Kelly.

    • Chafed

      Yes, it is. Thanks for noticing.

      • DEG

        You’re welcome!

  6. Q Continuum

    Good and bad: I’ve talked about this before on here. I have an abnormally high T level (along with HGH), to the point of being borderline pathological. I have to get my blood checked to make sure it’s not turning into pancake batter, the biggest risk of abnormally high endogenous T. So far it’s ok, same with the HGH so no surgery or meds needed right at the moment. Possibly in the future though.

    • Mojeaux

      Well, that explains a few things.

      • Mustang

        Lol, that’s what I was typing too.

      • Tres Cool

        The mystifying part of the comment is that to my knowledge he only has 1 kid.

    • DEG

      I thought you also said you had elevated prolactin levels. Prolactin acts to moderate or reduce the effect of sex hormones (both testosterone and estrogen).

      • Q Continuum

        Elevated prolactin too.

        My hormones are all FUBAR.

      • Q Continuum

        I have a small adenoma on my pituitary. The journey started when I decided it was high time to get my FUBAR jaw fixed. Surgeon said “go get your hormones checked to make sure you don’t have acromegaly”. Turns out my hormones are jacked up and I have (possibly) subclinical acromegaly (?). Odd presentation though. T levels about 3X the median 18 year old’s levels, HGH as well as prolactin over upper limit of reference. Blood, adrenals and heart all ok (for now), though I have to get them checked regularly. Or I get brain surgery to remove the adenoma (not my preferred course).

      • DEG

        Not a doctor.

        I’d avoid surgery if possible. Last resort if nothing else works (my approach to my disc herniation).

        I looked up acromegaly, and it looks like a mess. Best wishes.

      • Tundra

        Christ. What’s you T level?

      • Q Continuum

        Typically between 1900 and 2500.

      • Tundra

        Holy shit.

        I’ll take some off you.

      • westernsloper

        My hormones are all FUBAR.

        What do you eat in a normal day?

      • Q Continuum

        Your mom (obligatory).

        In seriousness, I’ve had a blood test in which I’ve done nothing but eat junk food and drink for a month leading up to the test and it’s *dropped* to 1700. So I think diet had minimal impact overall.

    • Chafed

      What do you charge for blood transfusions?

    • Mustang

      Damn, that’s gorgeous.

      • DEG

        Even spiked my testosterone.

  7. Old Man With Candy

    Why is this reminding me of a King of the Hill episode? Hank on steroids lifting weights to Jethro Tull was a classic moment.

    • Old Man With Candy

      Oh, and I’m now dragging my fat old ass an extra mile on my hikes, so that’s progress, I guess.

      • Chafed

        That is progress. Are you still ahead of WebDom?

      • Old Man With Candy

        400 points on her. I’m trying to crush her spirit.

      • Tundra

        Yet she’s getting laid.

        Who’s truly winning?

  8. westernsloper

    Get Some Sun

    Damn straight. I have been preaching this for years. Glad you are finally on the sun train Chafed! “Oh but I get sun burned and it hurts” says the pale pathetic horde. Get sun in small doses, quit eating shit like processed foods, seed oils and most grains and your sunburn won’t hurt and odds are you will get pink and it will go away. Also, fuck sun screen it is poison. As is everything you were told about diet was bullshit, as well as everything about sun exposure is bullshit and the latest finally learned is all things Covid are bullshit. Don’t trust the government.

    • Mojeaux

      the pale pathetic horde

      Say my name!

      I will have you know I am not pale. I am GLOW-IN-THE-DARK.

      • juris imprudent

        This tells you my genetic break in my otherwise Irish blood – I tan up something fierce. I can burn if I overdo it, but otherwise my skin just takes on a richer hue. True Irish glow all the time – either pale blue, or something pink to red.

      • Mojeaux

        My brother has an olive tone to him. His hair is almost black, but his beard is red (like my dad). Anyway, he went to Senegal for a while, and he was, shall I say, rather Tamil looking when he returned.

      • Tres Cool

        I get so dark in the summer I still ride in the back of the bus.

      • R C Dean

        The proverbial black Irish.

      • Tres Cool

        ex Mrs Tres was pale, freckled, red-head.
        I used to joke that she’d get sunburn at a fireworks display.

      • Animal

        Loyal sidekick Rat is likewise a ginger. He doesn’t so much sunburn as he actually bursts into flame.

        And yet the boy refuses to wear a hat outdoors. Go figure.

      • westernsloper

        I was not talking about you but ok Moj. You are not the only sun avoided people here. I was thinking of the Northern contingent, but yes, I guess you were the latest I conversed with who said they fear the sun.

      • Mojeaux

        It makes me uncomfortable. HOWEVER, it’s one of those things I actually enjoy once I ha e gotten some. Like exercise. Hate doing it. Love having done it.

      • westernsloper

        Can relate. Sun is easy for me because I get it all week and then more in more areas when cooking the next weeks lunches. Exercise other than the normal walking 3-6 miles a day due to being employed is a bit harder. I am lazy.

      • Lackadaisical

        ‘I am GLOW-IN-THE-DARK.’

        The Fed reveals herself.

    • Sean

      Preach on!

    • Mustang

      I’m glad I’m not the only one who hates sun screen. I’ve always hated the feeling of it and my gut tells me it can’t be healthy for some reason, though I’ve got no evidence. I now prefer to wear long sleeves designed to keep me cool instead of using sunscreen if I’m going to be outside for a while.

      I never really have a problem with my legs getting burned unless I’m in direct sun for a whole day.

      • Mojeaux

        No, I don’t like lotions or sunscreen, either. Somewhere I went, they tried to force hand sanitizer on me and before I thought about being polite, I recoiled and said, “Ew, gross, no.”

    • Tundra

      100%.

      Sunscreen and shitty diets are waaaaaaay more dangerous than the sun.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Wear long shirts, pants, and brimmed hats.

      • westernsloper

        That kind of defeats the purpose of being in the sun which is to actually get some sun.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Just be out in it all day. Even head to toe, you’ll still look like a burned raisin soon enough.

    • Surly Knott

      After 3 skin cancer surgeries and uncountable pre-cancerous lesion removals I’ll be avoiding the Sun, tvm.

      • westernsloper

        Glad you are ok but serious question, how much sun exposure did you have prior to said surgeries and what was your diet? I am not convinced sun exposure causes skin cancer but perhaps shit diet like seed oils, garbage grains and high sugar consumption do. Maybe I will die some day of skin cancer who knows but I doubt it. Probably more like liver cancer.

    • Zwak. And once again, the mall is his Waterloo

      Some of us don’t tan, we beige.

  9. Aloysious

    Also, can you imagine what life would be for your grandmother if your retired grandfather had his full complement of testosterone?

    Maternal grandparents had this issue. Grandpa had to sleep in a different bedroom because he was always ready to go, and grandma was DONE.

    • Aloysious

      HTML fail.

      Bah and humbug.

    • Ted S.

      Grandma was just getting it on with someone else.

      • Aloysious

        lol. Possibly. That would explain her youngest son. Totally, completely different than everyone else.

    • pistoffnick

      My grandpa had a stroke and needed help getting out of the bathtub. It was often my job to help him get out of the tub. He wasn’t long but he was fucking girthy. I’m talking tuna can diameter. No wonder my Grandma was always bitchy!

      I didn’t inherit THAT gene or his full head of salt and pepper hair. I shoulda picked better grandparents!

  10. Tundra

    Chafed!

    Yes, this is unfair and wrong. Dumbfuck youngsters largely waste their peak testosterone years and those of us oldsters committed to fitness have to battle for every tiny bit of gainz.

    That said, I’m close to pursuing a TRT program. I’ve been doing a lot of research and have come to the conclusion that my so-called normal T is not necessarily optimal. Rippetoe has interviewed a couple hormone experts over the last few months and it was eye opening. Reference ranges, numbers, testing, etc. Most are bullshit (can you believe the medical establishment lies?!?).

    A friend has been taking this supplement and saw good results. Not TRT-level, but like 160 point jump in a pretty short period of time. I think it’s important that dudes of a certain age get tested and corrected if necessary.

    It was a good GlibFIt week. After a pretty aggressive vacation week it was nice to get back into the routine. Yesterday was a 6-mile loop down in Evergreen with only about 1100 feet of elevation gain. Felt like we were cheating!

    Have a great week, GlibFitters!

    • Chafed

      Is there any decent research on that supplement? I am often conflicted supplements. For a small number, there are good empirical studies demonstrating effectiveness. For many, they make unsubstantiated claims or rely on studies with miniscule numbers. I hate to waste my money on snake oil.

      • Tundra

        You need to test.

        Everyone is different. My buddy did a test, started the sup and then did another test. Good (but not great) results. He’s an endurance athlete, so I’m sure that fucks him up.

      • DEG

        And do research.

        I poked around.

        It looks like no human testing of Fadogia Agrestis to see if it does anything with testosterone levels. Testing in rats shows promise.

        There is limited testing of Tongkat Ali in animals. No peer reviewed human testing. I found people referencing a study which claims boosting of testosterone in humans, but that study looks questionable to me.

      • Chafed

        Thanks DEG

      • deadhead

        ?

  11. Tres Cool

    Once, ages ago, I was at Grandma Tres house doing chores. As I recall it was fall and I was replacing window screens with storm windows.
    Granny was an old-school, true-blue, dyed-in-the-wool, democrat. This was the same time that Bob Dole was shilling for Viagra.
    So Im doing my thing, Dole comes on, I hear granny exclaim “Oh my god!” Then the TV goes dark and granny tosses the remote across the room into a love-seat.
    “You ok?” I asked.
    Grandma said, “Oh that damn Bob Dole. He’s such a damned…..republican!”
    I said, “yeah- kinda his job”
    Grandma then adds, “and now he’s pushing those damned pills. I waited 50 years for your grandfathers to stop working- now they’ve invented those pills that bring it back!”

    • Sean

      Ha!

  12. kinnath

    DHEA over the counter

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Yeah; anyone want mine?

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Not kidding. Forum if necessary.

    • Chafed

      JFC I never thought of it that way but so on the nose.

      • Tundra

        It’s true. Before I fired him, my stupid ass GP wouldn’t order a T test for me. “We need a reason”

        Fuck you. I asked. There’s your reason, bitch.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Look into patient-ordered testing, or whatever it is called. Some things you can buy off the shelf at CVS for $100, some other things you might have to get a Quest (or whomever) lab draw.

      • Tundra

        Thanks. Yeah, I have found a bunch of online options. Still looking for a hormone panel that has the works, though.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        You need a full workup panel to get it right. There are some pharmacists who have taken it on as a side offering. It’s not just as simple as adding testosterone to your system.

        I’ve been pondering it but haven’t been able to justify the expense as of yet.

      • Tundra

        I’ll share when I finally pull the trigger on a path.

      • Lackadaisical

        Depending where you are I know of a good clinic that doe sit ‘functional medicine’ whatever that is, but they get T and I presume other things and monitor progress and levels.

      • DEG

        Yes.

  13. Tundra

    Oh, and Happy Birthday, RJ!

    And whether it’s 56 or 57, the most important thing is that you are older than me!

  14. Gustave Lytton

    Chafed is really Frank Thomas.

    • Chafed

      Lol. He would snap me in half.

      • rhywun

        “She’ll like it too.” *wink*

  15. Zwak. And once again, the mall is his Waterloo

    I spent two hours this morning wrestling this beast out of the back of my truck, two hundred pounds of vintage metal shaper. And that was my Glib fit workout!

    STRUNG LIK OX!!!

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of Q-approved NSFWs- a lot of these are mostly “Yeah, okay, that’s nice” not that I’m complaining, and I certainly wouldn’t push any of them off my lap…

    But the golfing girl last week rang my bell, good and hard. A happy playful naked girl is a true wonder of nature and a treasure.

    There. I said it.

    • Tundra

      There. I said it.

      Lol. Like that’s controversial.

      • hayeksplosives

        1960: Red-blooded American male!

        2022: ToXICK MaScuLiniteEe!!

    • Aloysious

      Golfing girl?

      So she knows how to handle a club?

      Keep her.

      • Lackadaisical

        Just be careful with your balls.

    • Tundra

      OMG.

      Everyone laughing at him makes it even better!

    • Zwak. And once again, the mall is his Waterloo

      Heh. Talk about your trouser trout.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      And just like that, I’m never skinny-dipping again.

      • R.J.

        Only in clean swimming pools. Never in natural bodies of water.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    I have asked this question before, but if anyone answered it I never saw:

    Does HGH therapy work for women?

    • DEG

      Scuttlebutt around r/nattyorjuice is that many of the female Crossfit competitors are on HGH.

      • DEG

        In addition to other PEDs

  18. The Late P Brooks

    Scuttlebutt around r/nattyorjuice is that many of the female Crossfit competitors are on HGH.

    Hmmmm, interesting.

    I was really just thinking in more general “youthful vigor” terms.

  19. Ownbestenemy

    Tis my bros bday. I called and texted and no response. That sucks.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Too busy having fun?

  20. R C Dean

    I know you’ve all been waiting on today’s Deadlift Day update!

    New max for 5 reps – 230 pounds, up from 225 last week. This did not want to come off the ground – my lower back is mildly unhappy due to a form breakdown. Total for today’s deadlifts was 9,900 pounds. Next week I will hit 10,000, but I’m wondering about increasing my 5 rep max (again). We’ll see.

    • Tundra

      Congrats!

      5 lbs every week. Just keep pulling.

    • EvilSheldon

      Nice! I really can’t overstate how much I love deadlifts.

    • DEG

      Good!

  21. rhywun

    Today in Zeitgeist… just saw a Target commercial with a carefully curated collection of kids celebrating their dolls that “look like me”. One was, I think, a boy. S/he did not give his pronouns or anything but s/he looked like one to me.

    • R.J.

      That would be a great parody commercial.
      β€œA doll that looks like R.J.”
      A hairy potato with resting bitch face

      • rhywun

        OMG we’re twins.

        OK, I’m not particular hairy, except on top of my head.

    • rhywun

      I always wondered what he did to piss off the hive mind because that BS they hung on him seemed pretty weak. Like, did he something on Hillary or what.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Nah, he’s still alive.

      • hayeksplosives

        The photo of him fake groping the boobs of the soldier came out during peak #metoo, and the majority of Americans have a β€œthank you for your service” attitude to the rank-and-file soldiers. The fact that it was a published photo and not just a description meant he was doomed.

        My guess is that since by that time Minnesota was definitely permanently blue (as recently as 2002, GOP Norm Coleman won the Senate seat and GOP Tim Pawlenty won the Governorship) meant that getting the Dem endorsement for US senate was a plum for which dem insiders were willing to fight. And contrary to Franken’s character, doggone it, Dems don’t like him as a person.

      • MikeS

        Yeah. There was the photo, as well as the fact that he shoved his tongue down her throat while rehearsing a skit they performed on that trip. I believe one or two other women came forward with some caddish behavior on his part. The guy’s a legit creep and he was a great sacrificial lamb for the #metoo crowd to claim they also policed their own.

      • MikeS

        She wasn’t a soldier, they were on a USO tour together.

      • MikeS

        Yup. The optics of her in camos added a little extra cringe.

    • slumbrew

      I read the tweet as a somewhat self-effacing joke, no?

      • MikeS

        Yeah, it’s a dumb joke from a hack. The saddest part is he has over 1 million followers.

      • hayeksplosives

        It still tickles me that the left’s attempt to match conservative talk radio, β€œAir America”, flopped in record time.

        The main reason conservative and libertarian talk radio is so popular is that we can’t hear those views in legacy media. For libs, why listen to unfunny Franken show when all other media already confirms your biases?

    • R.J.

      Well, it sold. Over $5,000!

    • R C Dean

      It is an grade A condition (not a an expert rating or opinion). I expect it would be had to find a better one.

    • Sean

      Yowza.

  22. Fourscore

    From a personal perspective I found a noticeable drop in testosterone about age 65. The spirit was willing but there was some reluctance on the part of the flesh.
    Some time in my early 60s I saw a picture of an old man and didn’t like what I saw. Got barbells, a Weider machine, a couple of good benches and a treadmill. I was serious and worked pretty hard, in a few years I looked much better and younger but that may be up to someone else to decide, I still looked old and that wasn’t going to change. I stayed with the program mostly on but slipped a little when it got really cold in my garage.

    I tried the purple pills but the side affects of a splitting headache that lasted about 24 hours made me decide some things weren’t worth it. The 20 years of serious exercise made a difference, I could do physical work and enjoy being outside. I burned wood for heat until last winter, cut, haul, split, stack and keep the house cozy.
    Run a big garden, maintain a big yard, etc.

    That all changed a year and 1/2 ago. I didn’t have surgery, the medics decided my bones looked healthy enough to recover by themselves. I’m not the same guy I was before but I worked with my bee partner today and can do my share of the work. I’m hoping I can keep up with the snow again this year. I’m thinking deer season again, after the success last year. I enjoy the Vitamin D but need to extra careful outside.

    Many years ago marital difficulties were serious. I told my soon to be ex-wife, “You can make my hair turn grey but you can’t make it fall out” I won.

    • pistoffnick

      …Run a big garden, maintain a big yard, etc…

      Enough with these euphemisms…

  23. CPRM

    Just finished watching the “DC Showcase: Constantine – The House of Mystery.” It contains 3 cartoon shorts, the first is aformentioned Constantine, then Kamandi followed by the Blue Beetle teaming up with The Question.

    For those of you who don’t know, The Question was created by Steve Ditko, who was friends with and a follower of Ayn Rand. His big speech against the bad guy in this short is amazing in that the producers of this cartoon seem to actually understand some aspects of objectivism. His speech starts with this:

    I’ll never live for the sake of another man’s will!

    • R.J.

      Ditko did a lot of good work.

    • Grumbletarian

      I am intrigued.

  24. Shpip

    Seeing Gary Larson’s birthday among the morning lynx reminded me of an episode of my life from years ago. My brother and sister-in-law parked my then four year-old niece with The Bosslady and me for a couple of weeks while they went to Hawaii. I figured that the kid would just want to watch her Disney flicks on repeat, but what really fascinated her was my collection of Gary Larson cartoon volumes. Seeing her pore over those for hours made us both happy — the wife because her niece was “reading,” and me because I didn’t have to watch the opening sequence to Up yet again (it tends to raise the dust level in the room).

    Then her parents came home, and a week later I got an irate phone call. Turns out their little girl was squinting at her tablet, and now needed glasses.

    All that comic reading had made her Far Sided.

    • Mojeaux

      GTFO

    • rhywun

      *chuckle*

    • MikeS

      ALOL

  25. Mojeaux

    Me watching Hoarders: Whoa, that poor guy looks like Ron Jeremy.

    Poor guy: Hi, my name is Ron Jeremy and I’m [hoarder’s] friend.

    πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

    • pistoffnick

      How do you know who Ron Jeremy is?
      .
      .
      .
      ;^!

      • Mojeaux

        There are people who DON’T know who Ron Jeremy is?!

      • Gender Traitor

        I recognize the name, but I wouldn’t recognize him if I saw him unidentified.

        Just sayin’.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Uhh, from the neck up?

        /L7

      • Chafed

        Lol

      • slumbrew

        She’s a Mormon, not a Shaker.

      • Ownbestenemy

        From Boondock Saints? Where else?

    • rhywun

      Heh. Old one.

      You had me going that there’s new ones now.

      • Mojeaux

        No, sorry. I’m bingeing Buried Alive while I stitch.

  26. creech

    You try to instill some libertarian thinking in your kids and grandkids and then some asshole ruins it. Granddaughter is making some good coin this summer before heading back to Junior year at Jerry Sandusky’s Shower Room & Univ. She’s a food server at P.J. Wheilahans, and recently worked a 4 top with no complaints about food or service. The low life paying the bill not only stiffs her of a tip but he writes “Taxation is Theft” on the credit slip’s tip line. I suspect there’s a few commenters at TOS who would do that.

    • kinnath

      Libertarian. Cash only tips. 20 to 25 percent of the tab.

      • hayeksplosives

        Amen! My husband, a former bartender, taught me the cash tip rule years ago, and I’m a big believer and proponent of it. 20% min. If I pay the main bill with a card, I write CASH on the tip line and put the cash in the little bill presentation wallet.

        What they declare is between them and the IRS.

      • MikeS

        I really need to (re)start doing this. I’ve fallen into the plastic trap and seldom use cash anymore.

        *hangs head in shame

    • Gender Traitor

      If the low life really believed what he wrote, he should have left a cash tip.

    • slumbrew

      *urge to kill rising*

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Poor patron is a trifle confused. Good thing that he’s an isolated incident and she has you for perspective.

    • Chafed

      What an asshole. A confused asshole, but still an asshole.

      • Sean

        Yup.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      Much more likely that someone swiped the cash tip on the table before she could grab it than that your granddaughter was stiffed by a libertarian writing that. That message goes hand in hand with leaving cash.

  27. Brochettaward

    Everyone knows me. I’m First

    • MikeS

      Did you let your mom know I’m interested?

  28. hayeksplosives

    My built-in Kenmore Elite microwave took a crap today. The turntable turns, the fans whir, the push-button interface acts normal, but it ain’t microwavingβ€”food stays cold.

    It’s one of those that is matched to the stovetop underneath it and the oven under that. So the microwave serves as the stovetop light and exhaust fan too (both functions are OK).

    So I’ll have to check the appliance warranty we bought with the house and also look at repair vs replace.

    The best part though is that we still have a Goldstar brand mini-microwave that my husband has owned since 1988. It was his band touring microwave, then a camper microwave when he married his now ex wife, then his bachelor microwave after they divorced, and then our apartment microwave when we moved in together 16 year ago. It was our house microwave for 12 years (including his two boys, so plenty of mileage).

    That little Goldstar went into retirement in 2018 when we moved to a house with a built in microwave. But we kept it in the garage. We even moved it to Nevada last year.

    So tonight I brought it in from the garage, gave it a good clean, plugged it in, and heated leftovers for dinner.

    That cheap-ass vintage Goldstar really embarrassed Kenmore. I will never throw it away; if it dies, I will give it a proper burial.

    • Sean

      Proper burial = tannerite. Right?

    • Lackadaisical

      Have you checked the thermostat?

    • rhywun

      Wow, that’s impressive.

      I’m still rocking a cheap “Magic Chef” from 2006.

  29. CPRM

    The microwave I have is the one that has been here as long as I can remember (I live in my grandarent’s house). Still runs like a champ. Not as old as the one with dials we had growing up. But that one turned dangerous when I was in HS. My parents had bought a new one for the kitchen, so I moved that one into my bedroom, until it exploded a Corel plate. No idea WTF happened, but I know something was wrong. So we trashed it.

    • CPRM

      Brooks’d πŸ™

      • MikeS

        I’m in…Delaware.

      • MikeS

        Aha! I saw the reference to WW in the Ned The Dead comments but couldn’t figure it out.

        Back in the 80s we had Mad Frank. I assume he was the inspiration for Ned.

      • CPRM

        We all know who ‘inspired‘ them.

      • MikeS

        Yes

      • CPRM

        Mike Schmidt
        21 minutes ago
        The best 5 minutes I’ve ever spent on the internet.

        I don’t need to know you jack-off to my stuff man.

      • MikeS
      • CPRM

        So you admit it!

        Coincidently, my newest article series I just started is called ‘Don’t Dox Me Bro!’ featuring my old short films.

      • MikeS

        Excellent. Since I just watched them all, I can be all like, “Oh, him? I’ve been a fan for a long time”.

      • MikeS

        Do I win any bonus points for catching a continuity error in ‘Stars?

      • MikeS

        Blackboard rants. Oh my gawd for nerdfest.

      • CPRM

        Continuity errors are all done on purpose, in those particular films.

        Did you watch the web show I did with the kid who worked as my intern to teach him some techniques? The best episode didn’t have him in it. It was when my little brother guest hosted with me.

      • MikeS

        I think I met that guy out on Route 10.

      • MikeS

        Jeezus…the movies you haven’t stayed awake though. I can’t even.

      • CPRM

        I don’t dig most ‘gangster’ movies, or movies who take themselves too serious.

      • MikeS

        1989 Batman isn’t on either of your lists for best action movie of the 80s? Ugh.

      • CPRM

        Because there is barely any action. Best Comic Book movie of the 80s? Maybe. (I love me some camp and Superman 4 had that in spades) But action movie? No way.

      • MikeS

        OK, fine. But should have gotten a mention for best score.

      • CPRM

        OK, fine. But should have gotten a mention for best score.

        That one wasn’t limited to the 80s. Horner’s score for the The Rocketeer blows that shit to pieces…and my brother’s choice had a touching story. Like I said in the video, he actually listens to them as pieces of music,

      • MikeS

        Way past my bedtime, but tomorrow I need to listen to the Rocketeer soundtrack. I’ve never actually see the flick.

        And I liked you two talking movies. You should consider reviving it. Would watch with or without hot sauce.

      • CPRM

        good night, and please do listen to the score, it’s amazing. You should also watch the movie.

  30. Sean

    Mornin peeps.

    • UnCivilServant

      Be worried if the peeps start responding.

    • Lackadaisical

      Good morning, reprobates.

    • TARDis

      Good morning, racist misogynist bigots.

      Did I do that right?

      • robodruid

        Good Morning Domestic Extremist?

      • Gender Traitor

        Please – allow me:

        Good morning, you naughty boys! πŸ˜‰

        (including you, ‘bodru!)

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m no extremist. I’m not even as staunch as I might like to be.

        It’s long past time to decriminalize the killing of communists.

  31. UnCivilServant

    I’ve got to get on the road soon. See you when I reach the office.

  32. Gender Traitor

    Good morning, U, TARDy, Lack, and Sean!

    Nothing really remarkable coming up this week at work, as far as I can recall. Routine payroll…Board meeting is tomorrow, but all those reports are done…last little bit of the quarterly meeting minutes need to be done. I look forward to being deliciously bored!

    • UnCivilServant

      Tis the fortnight of the grand project kickoff wherein I am forced to attend in person at times that guarantee I’ll be stuck in rush hour traffic going home.

      • Gender Traitor

        πŸ™ Do you dare indulge in an audiobook or Great Course lecture during a commute, or is traffic tricky and treacherous enough to demand your full attention?

      • UnCivilServant

        It depends on whether or not it turns into a standstill.

      • Gender Traitor

        In that case, I hope you DON’T have that opportunity but have smooth sailing instead.

      • UnCivilServant

        πŸš—πŸš™πŸš™πŸš—πŸš“πŸš•πŸšŒπŸšπŸš™πŸš—

      • Gender Traitor

        Gaaaah! Now I’m having flashbacks about months of construction on NB I-75 on MY commute home! 😱

        I’d identified five separate bail-out exits depending on how far traffic was backed up.

      • TARDis

        Unfortunately, people use all my bailout exits too.

      • Gender Traitor

        True, but at least you leave behind the truly interstate travelers trying to get from KY to MI who don’t know the local surface streets.

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, 4(20)! Thanks for the tune! 😊🎢

  33. Yusef

    Howdy everybody, whats up at the home shop?

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, Yu! The temperature down here promises to be downright….temperate this week. Howzabout up nort’?

      • Yusef

        75 and sunny, looks good to me.
        Dont work too hard todayπŸ•³πŸ¦Ž

  34. UnCivilServant

    Well, fuck.

    The state never paid the vendor whose product does authentication for two of my major systems, so our license expired, and we’re locked out.

    • Gender Traitor

      Yikes! 😲 Got a corporate credit card with a high enough limit?

      • UnCivilServant

        I don’t have a card. Even if I did, they won’t let you buy something that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars on it.

        I’m going to verify that the license did indeed expire and go politely begging to the vendor for a temporary license while I harass budget.

    • Sean

      My newest hire is a no call/no show on his first day. And didn’t answer his phone when I called. Twice, *frowny face*

      My returning employee is back on his first return day.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Well that’s annoying.

        But typical anymore.

      • Sean

        I’m a lil surprised. He was all about it. He did all the extra paperwork for background checks (no issues) and everything.

        My other new hires are mostly doing ok. The chick left. And the newest other one needs to get in line…

        I’ve got 4 out of 6 recent successes, so I guess I shouldn’t bitch too much.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I’d count it as a win he no-showed up front rather than having to deal with the termination for poor performance down the road.

      • Sean

        *checks Indeed*

        1 new apply and two message responses from potential applicants.

        Oh, and 1 interview scheduled for this afternoon.

        I really need one or two more peoples. Then I can coast a little bit.

      • Gender Traitor

        Sorry, Sean. I’ve learned the hard way never to set a new hire up in the payroll system until they actually walk in the door.

      • Sean

        PEO is also WC provider. Needs to be done beforehand.