THE CONTINUING AWESOME ADVENTURES OF SECRET NAZI PRESIDENT!!11!1! – Vol 39: Joey B; Sexy Syria; Lizzie Dub

by | Oct 10, 2019 | Comic, Fun, Satire, Secret Nazi President | 251 comments

 

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251 Comments

  1. Shirley Knott

    Yay SNP.
    Also, first?

    • UnCivilServant

      I was going to comment, but I figured remarking that it was only an average installment would not be the best use of the #1 slot.

      Way to validate the choice.

      • Shirley Knott

        You’re welcome.

  2. Fourscore

    Hard hitting, accurate journalism, the way news is supposed to be. Any thing new on what Melania wore to lunch today?

    Good job, BP

  3. AlmightyJB

    Truth to power. Nicely done!

  4. Sean

    Biden’s red eye is a nice touch.

    • WTF

      Yeah, that got a chuckle out me.

  5. Jarflax

    Laila Ayasar, thicc?

    apologies to the Count.

    • Tundra

      Pre-diabetic. Pass.

      • Lackadaisical

        Pre. No one said anything about marrying her.

      • Tundra

        Fair enough.

        Carry on.

    • Animal

      The first time I read that comment I mentally deleted the “o” from the last word and came away with a completely different meaning. Not sure how that happened.

      • R C Dean

        + 1 “e”

      • Bobarian LMD

        Leaving off the trailing e completely changes the meaning.

  6. Naptown Bill

    I for one enjoy Laila’s work and would like to see more of it.

    • TARDIS

      Does she have a website? I wouldn’t mind linking to her page.

      • Lackadaisical

        I wouldn’t mind linking to her. Website not desired.

      • TARDIS

        Euphemism fail #247.

        *Sighs*

        I was trying I stay PG.

      • Ozymandias

        Much cringe. So laugh.
        “You got her name?”
        “Yeah, she just threw it at me.”
        “You’re dreaming with your eyes open again.”

        That is awesome, Tundra. Holy shit. Looks like last week’s old man pickup game.

      • Tundra

        It’s EXACTLY like every old guy league in North America.

        Still bummed that no one picked it up. I know hockey is a niche passion, but there was a lot of potential .

        More videos.

        I recommend “Better Dead Than Red”. You’ll see why!

      • TARDIS

        That was great! I think I’m going to actually get some use out my son’s youtube premium account.(He’s paying for it)

        As if I have enough free time….

    • R C Dean

      Why do I doubt that its her work you are enjoying?

      • Naptown Bill

        Potato, potahto…

    • Gender Traitor

      “Craft Beer Drag Queens” = band name of the day.

    • Tundra

      AAAAAGHHH!!

      From the sidebar…

      • Jarflax

        two questions:

        1. What the hell is open murder?

        2. How do you get that badly burned and keep your eyes?

      • Tundra

        1. Here you go.

        2. Great question. Also, how the hell do you get that badly burned and lead any kind of normal life?

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Huh…I always thought the phrase “open murder” meant when you have an open marriage and you brag to your wife about the ass that you scored the previous night. “I murdered that shit, son”

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        “That bitch is limping today. You know what I’m say’n?”

      • Lackadaisical

        I wouldn’t mind putting the hurt on Becky. . . I guess I have a thing for plain white girls.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        “I guess I have a thing for plain white girls.”

        Evergreen, brah

      • Naptown Bill

        I have a distinct weakness for smoky-eyed, buxom Levantine/Mediterranean women. I have relatives who fought in the Crusades, so maybe it’s some sort of genetic memory and because the context has changed “reclaim the Holy Land for Christendom” now has sort of a longer-term, hereditary infiltration and colonization meaning for me.

      • WTF

        So, you’re saying you want to colonize brown bodies?

      • Naptown Bill

        Boy howdy! I’m what you’d call a “universal donor” in that context.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        I hope he got a big inheritance after wearing that mask all night.

      • Naptown Bill

        Which reminds me, I need to watch The Hills Have Eyes again this Halloween.

      • Florida Man

        That’s a good one. I’m watching my way through all the leprechaun movies.

      • CPRM

        The Toxic Avenger lives!

  7. Raston Bot

    that’s a classy headdress on Chief Medicare.

    • SP

      Very stylish.

  8. Tundra

    “Also, bombs”

    Laugh out loud moment there.

    Thanks, BP! You know, it really is nice of the ProgCommies to provide such a target rich environment.

  9. Gustave Lytton

    Last panel always cracks me up.

    I feel like they’re not sending their hottest reporters. Laila is lacking that certain something I’ve come to expect from the Newish reporting harem.

    • SP

      A certain something like a see-through blouse?

      • Jarflax

        -1 Kruschev hat.

  10. Scruffy Nerfherder

    GO SNP!

    Got in truck to go to lunch, radio comes on already tuned to NPR. Very first vocal fried thing that comes out of the speakers is:

    “Yes, podcasts are overwhelmingly heteronormative and white.”

    *switches radio off*

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      “Yes, podcasts are overwhelmingly heteronormative and white.”

      To discuss this lack of diversity, we have a panel of three people who attended Yale and one who went to Dartmouth.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s totes problematic.

      • R C Dean

        The population is overwhelmingly heteronormative. Why shouldn’t podcasts be representative of that?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Podcasts have been used to suppress the voices of non-white LGBTQWERTY voices. We must take action!

    • Naptown Bill

      There are a few jobs I’ve interviewed for over the years and didn’t get that, looking back, give me cause to sigh with relief. Web Developer at National Public Radio is one of those jobs.

  11. kinnath

    The Bee again: Greta, Greta, Greta.

    A series of new bills working their way through state legislatures in New York, California, Oregon, Hawaii, and several other progressive states will require you to listen to a Greta Thunberg lecture before purchasing gasoline.

    Motorists will be required to watch a 20-minute lecture by the 16-year-old climate activist before they purchase gallons and gallons of harmful fossil fuels.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      “I should be across ze osean in zcool. How dare you!”

    • kinnath

      The law will not apply to celebrities purchasing jet fuel.

    • Raston Bot

      HOW DARE YOU??!!

    • Jarflax

      harmful fossil fuels.

      Dude, it says right on the pump not to drink it!

    • DrOtto

      Even with a 20 minute lecture and 15 question quiz, you’ll still be done in half the time of charging a Tesla.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        *opera applause*

    • kinnath

      Everyone has that one buddy that just won’t shut the fuck up.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Barry said I could do it! It’s totes legal!

      • R C Dean

        Him serving on the board, in isolation, is probably legal. He and his father the VP conspiring to peddle influence via a lucrative board seat, not so much.

        The son of a VP taking a lucrative position he is utterly unqualified for creates those of us in the private sector call a conflict of interest, generally managed by requiring the VP to recuse from anything related to the conflict.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        This is interesting:

        CEO of the company is Taras Burdeinyi[1] and chairman of the board is Alan Apter.[2] A number of non-Ukrainian directors were appointed in 2014, including Aleksander Kwaśniewski, former President of the Republic of Poland, appointed in January 2014.[26] In February 2016, Joseph Cofer Black, the Director of the American CIA’s Counterterrorist Center (CTC) (1999–2002) in the George W. Bush administration and Ambassador at Large for counter-terrorism (2002–2004) joined Burisma’s Board of Directors.[27] Also Karina Zlochevska, daughter of Mykola Zlochevskiy, is a member of the board.[2] Other members of the board are Christina Sofocleous, Riginos Charalampous, and Marina Pericleous.[28]

        On 18 April 2014, Hunter Biden, the son of then-US vice president Joe Biden, was appointed to the board of Burisma Holdings.[29] He left the company in April 2019.[5] At the same time, one of the board members was Devon Archer, a former senior adviser to John Kerry 2004 presidential campaign.[30]

      • Naptown Bill

        I’ve heard of the revolving door before, but this is getting ridiculous.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Counter-terrorism and energy production are totally related fields. Cofer Black’s focus on extraordinary renditions is especially applicable.

      • leon

        Now I want to look at the books and see if the business is legitimate

      • R C Dean

        I suspect there is a good reason the Ukrainian prosecutors are chronically interested in them.

      • R C Dean

        If Biden Jr. was being paid $50K/month, which I think I saw somewhere, he pocketed nearly $3mm bucks. Not bad for a no-show job held by somebody kicked out of the army for being a cokehead.

      • Jarflax

        You’re just jealous because you your Dad didn’t open the doors to 7 figure no show jobs.

      • R C Dean

        And you aren’t?

      • Tundra

        I am.

      • Jarflax

        Yes. Yes I am. Life is much easier for these people and even when things go bad they never face real consequences.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        We should all be banging our dying brother’s wives.

      • Swiss Servator

        NAVY. Not Army. That was cancer dead Biden son in the Army.

      • R C Dean

        Po – tay – to, po – tah – to.

        *ducks*

      • J. Frank Parnell

        When the president does it says it’s okay, that means it’s not illegal!

    • Chipwooder

      There’s something sublimely hilarious about how desperately Biden seeks Obama’s approval and praise, and how deeply reluctant Obama is to give him any of that.

      • WTF

        They are running scared and started to turn on Obama. I think it was Clapper who, when questioned on the origin of the Russia investigation, stated that he was just doing as the Commander in Chief had instructed him to at the time.

      • leon

        Just following orders.

      • Raston Bot

        the media would break their arms off carrying water in Obama’s name should he be the subject of any investigation.

  12. "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

    *The Awful Story of How Disney Submitted to China*

    Mickey Mouse: Oh, hello, Mr. Chairman Xi. We’re so glad you could visit us here in the happiest place in the world

    Translator: Chairman Xi does not carry for happiness. Happiness comes from extorting slave labor into making below market products to sell to foreign consumers

    Mickey Mouse: Haha, agreed. Gee golly, we have so much in common

    Xi: 见钟情 就此算

    Mickey Mouse: I’m sorry, I don’t speak Chinese

    Translator: He says “how much for that pretty mouse?”

    Mickey Mouse: Oh, well, that’s my girlfriend, Minnie. Minnie, come say hello to the nice man

    Minnie Mouse: Nice to meet you, Mr. Chairman. We’re so glad that…

    Translator: Chairman Xi says “she would look better with me behind her”

    Mickey Mouse: Oh, I don’t think that translates well into English, but I take that as a compliment

    Translator: It is not a compliment. Mr. Chairman wants your girlfriend to undress right now.

    Mickey Mouse: Ummm…I think something is being lost in translation…

    Xi: 见钟情,她对我不感

    Translator: He say “take clothes off now or no slave labor”

    Mickey Mouse: Uhh…I don’t understand what he’s asking exactly

    Xi: 见钟情,她对我不感

    Translator: He say, again, “take clothes off now or no slave labor”

    Minnie Mouse: Mickey, I don’t feel comfortable…

    Mickey Mouse: It’s OK sweetie, there’s just a miscommunication

    Translator: There is no miscommunication- she take clothes off now- bend over desk

    Mickey Mouse: Wait a second, here…

    Translator: You no want slave labor?
    Mickey Mouse: No, no, we love slave labor…

    Translator: You no want political prisoner organ to reanimate Walt Disney? We go..

    Mickey Mouse: No, no, wait….*sighs* Minnie do as the man says

    Minnie Mouse: Mickey, no, I don’t want to…

    Mickey Mouse: *slaps Minnie* Do as I say

    *Minnie sobbing, removes her clothes*

    Xi: 那件衬衫好土

    Translator: He say “you stay- watch”

    Mickey Mouse: *sobbing* Please Mr. Chairman, sir, please don’t do this

    Xi: 我想你

    Translator: He say “you sit when you pee now”

    Xi: 张自拍 你了

    Translator: He say “Goofy too- come in- undress”

    • MikeS

      Wow…dark.

      Bravo.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Just wait until Xi asks Mickey to deep six Winne the Pooh.

      • Tundra

        Too late. Randy already clipped him.

      • Gender Traitor

        NO!!! NO POOH PORN!! I was already traumatized by TGA’s last comment in AM Lynx. ::sobs::

    • leon

      You really ought to start submitting these.

      • Jarflax

        Looking for sloppy seconds from Minnie?

    • WTF

      见钟情,她对我不感 >Google Translate>Seeing love, she doesn’t feel sorry for me.

      Somehow, that makes it funnier.

      • Jarflax

        OMG, Xi, is actually a nice guy, the translator is evil!

      • leon

        Really it’s mickey who’s the bad guy. He’s the one who made Minnie do it.

      • Swiss Servator

        “Apple and Disney”

      • Jarflax

        LAST night, among his fellow roughs,
        He jested, quaff’d, and swore:
        A drunken private of the Buffs,
        Who never look’d before.
        To-day, beneath the foeman’s frown,
        He stands in Elgin’s place,
        Ambassador from Britain’s crown,
        And type of all her race.

        Poor, reckless, rude, lowborn, untaught,
        Bewilder’d, and alone,
        A heart, with English instinct fraught,
        He yet can call his own.
        Ay, tear his body limb from limb,
        Bring cord, or axe, or flame:
        He only knows, that not through him
        Shall England come to shame.

        Far Kentish hop-fields round him seem’d,
        Like dreams, to come and go;
        Bright leagues of cherry-blossom gleam’d,
        One sheet of living snow;
        The smoke, above his father’s door,
        In gray soft eddyings hung:
        Must he then watch it rise no more,
        Doom’d by himself, so young?

        Yes, honor calls!—with strength like steel
        He put the vision by.
        Let dusky Indians whine and kneel;
        An English lad must die.
        And thus, with eyes that would not shrink,
        With knee to man unbent,
        Unfaltering on its dreadful brink,
        To his red grave he went.

        Vain, mightiest fleets, of iron fram’d;
        Vain, those all-shattering guns;
        Unless proud England keep, untam’d,
        The strong heart of her sons.
        So, let his name through Europe ring—
        A man of mean estate,
        Who died, as firm as Sparta’s king,
        Because his soul was great.

        Not about Disney

      • leon

        Also not about Disney, but as long as we are quoting good poetry

        Then out spoke brave Horatius, the Captain of the Gate:
        “To every man upon this earth, death cometh soon or late;
        And how can man die better than facing fearful odds,
        For the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods,

    • Unreconstructed

      Oh, man…
      Knowing someone who’s been inside the Minnie costume makes this even darker (especially since I’m friends with her dad).

      • Unreconstructed

        Genuine LOL there. Funny thing is that apparently Mouse World has a strict gag order on admitting that there are real people inside the costumes. One can only arrive at the conclusion by seeing the photos and captions and filling in the blanks. It’s really kinda odd.

      • Tundra

        KInda? The whole fucking place is odd.

      • Unreconstructed

        Agreed – a large part of why I’ve never gone. OK, not as large as crowds of people, long lines, and crazy prices (all in FL heat to boot)!

      • Florida Man

        It’s a different experience when you live close by and have a pass. More relaxed and people watching is fun. As kids we would get up at 5am drive from Jax, stay until the park closed and drive back. It was fun, but manic and exhausting, plus you never felt like you did everything you wanted.

      • Unreconstructed

        I kinda get that – AstroWorld was similar for me growing up. Of course the *best* AstroWorld trips were when Exxon rented the whole park for families of employees. Riding Greased Lightning multiple times in a row was a blast!

      • Florida Man

        I just looked at astroworld. Permanently closed. It’s true what they say, you can’t go home.

      • Unreconstructed

        Yup. The ex-wife and I went to the park the last night it was open – just before Halloween many moons ago. It was definitely bittersweet.

      • Naptown Bill

        I don’t know if it’s still the case but it used to be a thing around here that college kids would do summer internships or paid seasonal gigs at Disney World as kind of a working vacation type of thing, and they’d come back with stories about how strict and weird it is.

      • Florida Man

        No mustaches except Walt’s! That use to be a rule.

    • R C Dean

      I don’t follow broadcast news, so I don’t recognize the dude with the long blonde hair in the Fox News split screen. Who is that?

      • AlmightyJB

        Angry O’Conner

      • Naptown Bill

        The person who’s going to light up the director for setting up a split screen with Tulsi “Bae Hotness” Gabbard.

  13. Chipwooder

    If there’s one thing Western journalists, most of whom grew up wealthy and went to fancy colleges, love, it’s peddling Rousseauean crap about the benefits of being the noble savage.

    The Economist

    Verified account

    @TheEconomist
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    Light to all nations? There is little evidence that electricity and light truly transform people’s lives

    9:56 PM – 8 Oct 2019

    Tweeted to you courtesy of a graduate of the London School of Economics typing on their MacBook Air while sipping a vanilla latte.

    • R C Dean

      Oh, c’mon. That has to be Peak Derp.

      • Chipwooder

        I would assume that they’re trolling more or less……if I hadn’t heard ostensibly intelligent, educated people saying horseshit like that before.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Is this kind of like saying because the blacks sang songs while working in the cotton fields that meant they were happy to be slaves? I suppose you could be happy without electricity and light but why?

      • Florida Man

        I’m not going to read the article, but maybe they mean stringing power lines to huts without any electronics is a waste of time.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        After looking at the article

        From the article.

        Another study by Mr Grimm and his colleagues found that Rwandans who were given solar lamps responded by lighting their households more brightly, for more hours each day. They burned less kerosene, and their children studied a little more, especially at night. But the adults’ working lives changed hardly at all.

        Solar lamps appear not to rescue people from poverty.

        This article is about Rwanda. Their ranking according to Heritage foundation.

        https://www.heritage.org/index/country/rwanda

      • Urthona

        Oh for fuck’s sake.

      • R C Dean

        Solar lamps appear not to rescue people from poverty.

        Perhaps the tweet should have been

        There is little evidence that solar electricity truly transforms people’s lives. A full-blown, reliable power grid, on the other hand . . . .

        Of course, the Economist has gone full watermelon, so that would be off-narrative.

      • invisible finger

        How could the children study more AT NIGHT with solar lamps? I suppose someone could argue “at night” is not “after dark” but then the lamp would be a non sequitur.

      • Mojeaux

        I assume battery packs.

      • Urthona

        How did residents respond to wind powered fans?

      • Urthona

        I think there’s a way to store the power. Otherwise we are looking at not the most useful device.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s a comparative study of full scale energy distribution and moderate solar installations on almost subsistence living.

      It’s not much of a surprise that dollar for dollar the relatively low cost of small panels versus the cost of grid development is a more efficient use of dollars for daily living.

      That said, nobody is going to build any manufacturing facilities using only teeny solar panels and they will continue live near the subsistence level. That would be a feature, not a bug to your average green human-hater.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      In other news, 5 gallon buckets are more cost effective than sewer systems.

      • Mojeaux

        Marginally related: Matt Paxton of Hoarders was cleaning out a back yard with a bunch of 5-gallon buckets full of human waste. He said, “We’re all just 5 bad decisions away from shitting in a bucket.”

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Buckets are for the bourgeoisie. I pinch a loaf on the sidewalk, just like they do in California.

      • Swiss Servator

        Check your cement privilege. I crap in the dust, like the Kuchi nomads in Afghanistan.

      • Jarflax

        Inuit snow-crappers think you both are wimps.

      • Ozymandias

        I once saved a human life by intervening when the SF sergeant-major caught one of the local Afghan workers copping a squat in our showers.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        I once witnessed a guy taking a dump into a storm drain. Still haunts me.

      • Naptown Bill

        Bad decision #5 is pooping in your bucket. You need that bucket to carry stuff. Namely, the stuff you steal from the person’s refrigerator who is the victim of Worse Decision #1: Breaking in to Old Lady’s House to Steal Lunchmeat.

      • Jarflax

        +1 olive loaf.

      • Akira

        Earlier in my life, my goal was to live “off the grid” in a small self-built house and be as self-sufficient as possible. In the course of researching the various things needed to do that, I came across the “wood chip toilet”. Basically, some people construct a sittin’ bench with a hole in it, then a 5-gallon bucket with a layer of woodchips is placed below. You shit into the bucket, then cover it with more woodchips (stored in another bucket next to the “toilet”). People swear up and down that it doesn’t smell as long as you cover it up with woodchips.

      • Mad Scientist

        If you haven’t had a shower in 3 weeks and live next to buckets of shit, what’s one more bucket of shit going to add to the smell?

      • pistoffnick

        “…my goal was to live “off the grid”…”

        Mine too. I once read a book called Humanure about composting your own poop.

      • Mojeaux

        I think they used to call that an “outhouse.”

        Not exactly “off grid,” but better than an outhouse or composting toilet: incinerator toilet.

      • Naptown Bill

        The office building constructed by the Chesapeake Bay Foundation in Annapolis, which is admittedly a lovely building, is LEED Platinum, allegedly the world’s first such office building. The bathrooms are toilets that sit atop chutes that go straight down to what amounts to a cesspit. Rather than flushing, you toss a handful of wood chips down the hole. Doesn’t smell, but the cheeks do get a touch frosty in the winter months with the wind coming off the bay. Mind you, this is for two toilets on a floor that’s one story above the waste containers, which themselves occupy a considerable amount of space on the ground, the building itself being built on what amounts to stilts.

        So, yeah, the latest green technology for human waste disposal is apparently indoor port-a-potties with a 15′ drop and sawdust. Greta will be thrilled.

      • Naptown Bill

        Pretty much, and the symbolism is deliciously ironic and apt.

        Also, fun fact, they were called “garderobes” because clothes were stored there. Because they were small out-of-the-way rooms adjoining bed chambers or solars they also doubled as a discrete place for a person to use a latrine, and space generally being at a premium they did double-duty. Allegedly there was also a belief that the ammonia from frequent use would discourage moths. Which is gross.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I wouldn’t have much of an issue with the CBF and their penchant for hyper-expensive eco-buildings if they weren’t collecting tens of millions of tax dollars. Fully 80% of their funding is the form of “Grants and Gifts”, roughly translated as federal and state dollars.

        Their headquarters in Virginia Beach is a perfect example of that as well.

      • Raston Bot

        I’d like to see a comparison of their results to-date of cleaning the Bay versus Virginia’s private oyster aquaculture industry. but probably impossible to make that comparison.

      • Naptown Bill

        Totally. They’re REAL popular down there. I’m sure it has nothing to do with their penchant for clamoring for having private land declared as vital watershed habitat thereby rendering it useless to the owner.

        The worst-kept secret about the CBF is that it’s an organization devoted to getting money from saps and the government in order to buy nice swag and fund vacations for the in-crowd at the Annapolis office. They no shit own beaches around here that are worth a mint and use it for beach parties. Then they charge money for tickets and call it a fundraiser. They also own a few really, really nice boats that upper management take out on the weekends. It’s the biggest scam on Earth.

      • Naptown Bill

        @Raston Bot: I don’t have the numbers to hand, but when the EPA took over monitoring the Chesapeake crab population and enforcing harvest limits the population had been on the rebound for something like ten years. Then they dropped again as watermen tried to get in front of the impending limits. Took something like twenty years to come back to where they were before the EPA got involved.

      • Plisade

        A friend’s wife has such a toilet in her massage studio in their backyard. Strict rules are that it’s for urine only to keep the place from stinking up.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        People swear up and down that it doesn’t smell as long as you cover it up with woodchips.

        Those people are nose blind and should spend a week away, report on the smell upon returning.

    • invisible finger

      “There is little evidence that electricity and light truly transform people’s lives”

      See you at the cancer diagnosis log cabin.

      • Florida Man

        Don’t worry. It’s really more of a shanty.

      • Naptown Bill

        “What good has electricity ever done anybody anyway,” he blogged.

      • Jarflax

        Water purification is a pretty good answer to that question.

      • Lackadaisical

        Technically you shouldn’t need electricity for that. My hometown still has (though doesn’t run) a gigantic (coal) steam powered pump that ran the water system.

      • Jarflax

        Technically you can send a runner to deliver your messages. I still prefer email.

  14. R C Dean

    Interesting legal squabble over gay marriage/divorce:

    The two officially broke up in December 2017, and Demorest wanted the couple to walk away with what was titled in their own names, according to a story in LGBTQ Nation.

    Kyser said no because in part she said she gave up her job to raise the twins the couple adopted in 1999, and her only source of income right now is Social Security. She accused Demorest of “setting her up for an undignified retirement,” according to LGBTQ Nation.

    Kyser is suing Demorest for a divorce using the unusual argument that Georgia’s common law marriage, which was banned in 1997, coupled with the Obergefell v. Hodges decision “retroactively date the start of Kyser and Demorest’s marriage to July 1996, when Kyser moved into Demorest’s home.”

    When common law marriage existed in Georgia, they couldn’t get married because two women. When they could get married, there was no longer common law marriage in Georgia. My first question is, why didn’t they get formally married once it was legal for them to do so? One issue – they moved in together in 1996 and common law marriage was done away with in 1997. I don’t know if their relationship would have qualified for common law marriage – there is often a minimum time period for cohabitation. There is also generally a requirement that you hold yourself out as married, which I don’t know if they did (seems unlikely, if Demorest was working at the conservative “white shoe” law firm she now works at).

    This actually gets to another interesting issue, which is how court cases striking down unconstitutional statutes get applied. Do they retroactive effect, on the theory that an unconstitutional statute was always unconstitutional and was thus void ab initio, regardless of the time it took for a court to make its ruling? Or do they have prospective effect, on the theory that people should be able to rely on what’s in the statute books until someone says different? Naturally, the courts give no consistent answer.

    In this case, I see little on the “reliance” side of the scale, but retroactive application raises a different question: What happened to common law marriages in 1997? The article says Georgia
    “banned” them. If so, then all those marriages (including theirs) ended in 1997, and anyone who wanted to remain married would have to be legally married. But I don’t really know if Georgia “banning” common law marriage really terminated any existing marriages, or just closed the door to new ones.

    • R C Dean

      Linky. My bad.

    • Raston Bot

      so they were never married and GA has no common-law marriage. seems simple to me. Kyser will have to return to her “undignified” career as a clinical psychologist.

      • R C Dean

        I think she has to show:

        (1) They actually qualified to be common law married before it was “banned”.

        (2) The “ban” did not terminate their common law marriage.

        She is going to have a major problem, I suspect. For various purposes (none of them good), I have had people claim to be the common law spouse of a hospital patient. I tell them, sure, we’ll recognize that if you can show me you qualify. And to meet the requirement that you hold yourself out as married, I would like to see your tax returns – you can redact everything but the filing status.

        I’ve never had anyone claiming to be a common law spouse return with their tax forms. People who claim to be a common law spouse generally do so only when it is convenient for them to do so. They never file as married, because that would cost them money. So, they either committed tax fraud and are common law married, or they are not common law married.

      • grrizzly

        How is it possible to file taxes as “married” when you’re not legally married? In other words, can there be any common law spouses in the US?

      • Jarflax

        The Service further concluded in Revenue Ruling 58-66 that its position with
        respect to a common-law marriage also applies to a couple who entered into a
        common-law marriage in a state that recognized such relationships and who later
        moved to a state in which a ceremony is required to establish the marital relationship.
        The Service therefore held that a taxpayer who enters into a common-law marriage in a
        state that recognizes such marriages shall, for purposes of Federal income tax filing
        status and personal exemptions, be considered married notwithstanding that the

        2
        A common-law marriage is a union of two people created by agreement followed by
        cohabitation that is legally recognized by a state. Common-law marriages have three
        basic features: (1) A present agreement to be married, (2) cohabitation, and (3) public
        representations of marriage.
        3
        taxpayer and the taxpayer’s spouse are currently domiciled in a state that requires a
        ceremony to establish the marital relationship. Accordingly, the Service held in
        Revenue Ruling 58-66 that such individuals can file joint income tax returns under
        section 6013 of the Internal Revenue Code (Code).
        The Service has applied this rule with respect to common-law marriages for over
        50 years, despite the refusal of some states to give full faith and credit to common-law
        marriages established in other states.

        IRS letter

      • R C Dean

        How is it possible to file taxes as “married” when you’re not legally married? In other words, can there be any common law spouses in the US?

        Common law married is legally married.

      • grrizzly

        Gay couples in Massachusetts who were legally married in Massachusetts from 2003 to 2013 had to file their federal taxes as singles. Common law marriage is not recognized in Massachusetts. And it is not recognized in Georgia since 1997. So, which tax returns do you expect the couple in question to produce when they filed as “married”? The state tax returns in 1997 only?

      • R C Dean

        So, which tax returns do you expect the couple in question to produce when they filed as “married”?

        The ones since Obergefell, as at that point there was no reason for a couple that was married to file individually. Not a tax lawyer, but I think married couples can only file “married, filing jointly” or “married, filing separately”, not “individual”.

        Gay couples in Massachusetts who were legally married in Massachusetts from 2003 to 2013 had to file their federal taxes as singles.

        Was that due to the Defense of Marriage Act?

      • grrizzly

        That they didn’t get legally married since 2015 is a problem for the plaintiff. But not before.

        I think, yes, because of DOMA.

      • R C Dean

        That they didn’t get legally married since 2015 is a problem for the plaintiff. But not before.

        I would say “formally” married, since the plaintiff is arguing they were already legally (common-law) married. But with that nit-pick, I agree.

        I give the plaintiff a 60% chance of winning if the tax returns aren’t brought up because that would be the “narrative” result. She has the burden of proof and should theoretically have a hard time winning a “swearing match” with the defendant. Much will turn on extrinsic evidence, including how they represented themselves to others after Obergefell.

        One question which is imponderable is whether they really thought of themselves as a married couple, or only as domestic partners, and what weight should be given to that since “married couple” wasn’t a “real” option before then. If they didn’t/couldn’t consider themselves as married in 1996, then could they have formed the required agreement?

        I give the plaintiff a 20% chance of winning if she is grilled on why she continued to represent herself as single to the federal government after Obergefell.

      • wdalasio

        Assuming she can meet the standards Caput Lupinum cites below, it sounds like the common law marriage would stand. And I really that’s fair. Face it, is there a family court in this country that would say, in a case of a man and woman, that a woman who gave up her (presumably) lucrative practice to raise their kids wouldn’t be entitled to alimony in divorce?

    • Caput Lupinum

      As of January 1, 1997, common law marriage is no longer recognized in the state of Georgia. Pursuant to O.C.G.A. § 19-3-1.1, “No common-law marriage shall be entered into in this state on or after January 1, 1997. Otherwise valid common-law marriages entered into prior to January 1, 1997, shall not be affected by this Code section and shall continue to be recognized in this state.” Thus, no common law marriage entered into in the state of Georgia on or after January 1, 1997 will be recognized within the state. Only common law marriages entered into prior to this date still enjoy recognition.

      In order for a common law marriage to be legally recognized in the state of Georgia, four requirements must generally be met:

      The parties must be able to contract;
      There must be an actual contract; and
      There must be consummation according to law; and
      The marriage must be established prior to January 1, 1997.
      O.C.G.A. §§ 19-3-1 and 19-3-1.1. As discussed in our article entitled “Marriage in Georgia,” these same requirements are applicable to ceremonial marriages. To be able to contract for marriage, both parties must be of sound mind, at least 18 years old, not related within a certain degree, and have no prior un-dissolved or still existing marriage. O.C.G.A. § 19-3-2. An actual contract is established in a common law marriage when the parties have a mutual agreement to be husband and wife and hold themselves out to the world as husband and wife. Consummation in a common law marriage is established by the continuous cohabitation of the parties. There is no required period of time that the parties have to live together, but the longer the cohabitation, the stronger the presumption that a common law marriage exists. See Wright v. Goss, 253 Ga. App. 147 (1997), Baynes v. Baynes, 219 Ga. App. 848 (1996), Ga. Osteopathic Hosp. v. O’Neal, 198 Ga. App. 770, (1991), Brown v. Brown, 234 Ga. 300, (1975).

      If she can prove the marriage was valid, it would still be recognized as Georgia explicitly grandfathered in relationships started prior to January 1 1997, and there is no stated time requirement for cohabitation, though longer is better. I think the easiest angle to attack is the presentation of both parties as married. But I’m not a lawyer, I just work for them.

      • R C Dean

        Interesting. There is/was a fair amount of variation in the requirements; I’ve not lived in a state that didn’t have stated minimum cohabitation requirement. I see Georgia imposes a holding out requirement in the detail on the “actual contract”.

        I see problems for Kyser with “holding out”. There is also an angle of attack on whether there was truly a mutual agreement to be married. Demorest argues there was not, as she never saw them that way, although they had a commitment ceremony that she will have to address. The lack of a formal marriage ceremony is a mirror image problem for Kyser.

        I wonder if either of them was in the habit of referring to the other as “my spouse”. “Partner” wouldn’t cut it, I don’t think, as people with no intention of getting married refer to their other half as their “partner”.

      • Raston Bot

        They were marriage equality activists. I see that working strongly in Kyser’s favor.

      • R C Dean

        Assuming they filed their taxes individually, and Demorest’s lawyers think of the tax return trick, I think she wins. It is extrinsic evidence that neither of them intended or held themselves out as married, in a document signed under penalty of perjury. If they were married the entire time, they should have paid taxes that way the entire time. If the court rules that they were married regardless, then the IRS should send them a bill. And I suspect it wouldn’t be a small bill.

        Of course, if they filed as married, its game over and Kyser wins.

      • wdalasio

        It is extrinsic evidence that neither of them intended or held themselves out as married, in a document signed under penalty of perjury.

        Married couples regularly file separately.

      • R C Dean

        Married couples regularly file separately.

        Sure. Married, filing separately. Not “Individual”. My understanding is that it is illegal for a married couple to file individual returns.

      • Caput Lupinum

        I don’t think the ceremony is relevant, as it happened in 1998, and all the requirements have to be met before the 1997 cutoff, at least that’s how I’m reading the law.

        As a side note, when common law marriages were still possible in Pennsylvania, PA also did not have a time requirement. PA was more strict however, in that it wasn’t enough for both parties to simply hold themselves as married, both had to explicitly state their “immediate intention” to be married publicly.

      • R C Dean

        I think its relevant because it helps illustrate their intent. The question would be, once it was legal, why didn’t they get formally married? That’s where the “marriage activist” thing can come back and bite Kyser – it was a big deal, lots of gay couples were getting married, why didn’t you? She can say “I thought we already were and it was unnecessary”, but that is easily countered with Demorest saying “I never thought of us as married.”

        As activists, there should be a public record of them claiming to be married if they really thought they were. If there isn’t, it raises the question of why not?

        My guess would be that the records from the adoption would be pretty indicative of their relationship.

        Excellent question. The linked article on their fight with a country club probably gives a clue:

        Ehrhart’s challenge arose out of a long-simmering dispute between an Atlanta country club’s board of directors and two members who first asked for domestic partnership benefits in 1999.

        Psychologist Lee Kyser, 57, an avid golfer, paid a $40,000 initiation fee to join the exclusive Druid Hills Golf Club, and wanted the club to give her partner, attorney Lawrie Demorest, 51, the same benefits that spouses are given — the right to attend alone and to bring her own guests, and the right to assume the membership should Kyser die.

        Since same-sex marriage was not given legal status until Obergefell, they probably applied as “domestic partners” rather than “spouses”. Which I think means the whole thing is a wash – it doesn’t show their intent either way.

        We’re back to, is Obergefell applied retroactively? If so, then this shows some of the problems retroactive application can create – you don’t actually have a time machine, and its sometimes not possible to recreate what would have happened if gay marriage was always legal in this country. They said they were “domestic partners” because, at the time, that was the only available option.

        Not to beat the tax return horse to death, but applying Obergefell retroactively would open a huge can of worms on tax liability. Maybe that’s the reliance interest supporting prospective application – gay couples relied on their lack of formal legal status in filing their tax returns separately, and it would be unfair to say they were actually married the whole time and owe the marriage penalty for the whole time.

      • Jarflax

        Obergefell retroactively would open a huge can of worms on tax liability

        Dower rights too, here in Ohio. I have had clients that this was an issue for.

      • wdalasio

        The lack of a formal marriage ceremony is a mirror image problem for Kyser.

        Is it? I mean, at the time, a marriage ceremony wouldn’t have been legal. And, probably, even liberal-leaning churches would have had qualms about marriage (remember, this is before the push for gay marriage was even a thing). It sounds like they adopted kids together. My guess would be that the records from the adoption would be pretty indicative of their relationship. If they did it as a couple, it’s hard to turn around and say they weren’t a couple.

      • R C Dean

        See my wall o’ text above.

        If I was arguing Demorest’s side, I would point to the tax returns since Obergefell (assuming they were individual returns, which I am about 99% sure they are). I wouldn’t argue about the returns before there was any basis for saying that they were legally married at the time they filed returns. I would argue that my client, as an attorney, was fully aware she was filing under oath, and that her declaration of unmarried status under oath should be given full weight.

        Kyser still has the problem of arguing why, if they were legally married after Obergefell, they continued to file individual returns. The only barrier to doing so was removed when the case was decided, after all.

    • leon

      I think it’s interesting that gun control advocates take the tact that stand your ground laws are wrong. They seem to belive self defense is wrong. The rhetoric seems to Be that we should look down at self defense as illegitimate.

    • Florida Man

      I think that was the right call. He shot an unarmed man, that didn’t have him trapped and wasn’t attacking. Pull the gun, get distance, have the dude charged with battery. Also, mind your own business.

      • Jarflax

        mind your own business.

        ^ This. Dude started up with someone over a parking violation, wannabe meter maid.

      • Raston Bot

        He shot the guy for assaulting him and knocking him to the ground. He was on the ground when he shot the guy. The shooter was in a shouting match with the driver at the time of the assault. Not sure I’d find him guilty b/c he was assaulted hard and knocked to the ground (brain rattled a bit) so getting distance or fleeing was ruled out.

      • Florida Man

        In the video I saw he had the guy at gun point and he was not moving forward. He waited a few seconds and then shot him. It he had drawn and fired immediately, I could have seen that he thought the guy was continuing the attack, but he had enough time to see the guy was just standing there.

      • Raston Bot

        did he delay a couple seconds? i don’t remember that detail. i thought it was draw n shoot.

      • kinnath

        Yes, he pulled, pointed, waited, and then shot.

      • Fatty Bolger

        There’s about a two second delay, and the victim even has time to back up and start to turn away after seeing the gun. The guy shoots him anyway.

      • Raston Bot

        maybe 1.5 seconds from draw to the video freezing b/c of Youtube graphic violence restrictions. he was backing away and turning when he was shot. if you were just battered to the ground, then looking down your pistol’s site would it be clear that your target was moving away. he was moving toward you before you raised your pistol.

      • Fatty Bolger

        I think it would be clear because he started backing up as soon as the guy started going for his gun, even before it was drawn.

      • kinnath

        I can’t speak to Florida’s law, but I am pretty sure the stand-your-ground law in Iowa would not have covered this incident.

        This is a case of escalating stupidity.

        1) A couple parks illegally in a handicap spot
        2) A guy with a history of confronting people parking illegally in handicap spots confront the driver
        3) A different guy walks out of a store and physically batters the first guy for confronting the driver
        4) This second guy backs up and continues to scream at the guy on the ground
        5) The guy on the ground pulls a gun and shoots

        Things that the shooter did wrong:

        1) He started the confrontation
        2) He had a history of telling people he wanted to shoot someone

        I believe the conviction was appropriate.

      • Florida Man

        Something the video doesn’t have is audio. If I come outside and see some guy screaming at my wife, well I have a bit of a short fuse, so I probably wouldn’t make a good decision.

      • kinnath

        Everyone involved here did the wrong thing.

        It’s been awhile since I watched the video, but as I recall, Mcglockton shoved the man to the ground and then stepped back.

        He’s a big, angry man. So yeah he’s a threat, but there is no clear intent to cause great bodily injury or death to the shooter.

      • Viking1865

        Just watched the video, to me that’s not anywhere close to a good shoot. McGlockton shoved him hard to the ground, and that was it. He did not continue to batter Gerkja, he didn’t mount him and strike him. He was not a deadly threat, because he did not continue to assault him.

        He’s yelling at McGlocton’s GF, Mcglockton comes out and shoves him to the ground. Gerkja has time to haul himself to a seated position, draw his pistol, and aim it at McGlockton. McGlockton is a couple feet away, and does not move toward Gerkja. It’s broad daylight. He actually looks to take a step backward and turn away before the shot is fired, although its not super clear on the video.

      • Raston Bot

        McGlockton knocked him to the ground and continued to advance toward Gerkja. he may have intended to kick him while he was down. Gerkja draws, then McGlockton stops, steps back, and turns away when he is shot. there’s about a second from draw to fire.

        https://youtu.be/01Me0y92pKA?t=169

        was Gerkja looking for a reason to shoot someone? did he set that guy up? if that’s the case, then okay i would say bad shoot but otherwise i’m leaning toward acquittal.

      • Viking1865

        This video actually shows the full incident. The one you posted doesn’t actually include the shot.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6eZCh4iP6U

        He did take another step closer, but he begins to back off even before the gun is drawn. When Gerkja gets the gun up and forms his sight picture, McGlockton is opening up the distance between them.

        What it looks like to me is that the closest point of approach, Gerkja is sprawled in a defenseless posture on the ground. McGlockton begins backing up as he sits up, and is continuing to back as the gun is drawn.

        The crucial thing to me is that, as he gets the gun up and forms a sight picture, McGlockton is backing and turning away. Gerkja then takes a half second to steady his sights, and pulls the trigger.

        There’s not any way thats a good shoot at that point. Not even close.

      • Raston Bot

        okay, yeah that looks worse than the vid i had where it was stopped before the shot was taken. that extra moment makes all the difference to me.

    • Naptown Bill

      I remember this one. It cuts close to the bone, because it really, really pisses me off when people break rules because they think they’re too special to be inconvenienced like the rest of us proles. Would I shoot someone over parking in a handicapped space? No, and I’d really only say anything if I was feeling especially pissy that day.

  15. UnCivilServant

    Finally, windows spoke to linux spoke to solairs and it worked (mostly) as intended.

    • Jarflax

      Hey did you see? NY State is moving everything onto iOS platforms starting today!

      • UnCivilServant

        Pfft.

        Even if they passed that directive, it’d be decades until the transition could complete. We’re still running some applications on mainframes we were officially off of thirty years ago.

      • Jarflax

        Well played. How are your punch card skills?

      • UnCivilServant

        I have a box of several thousand around here.

        I think they’re out of order though. never had time to check.

      • whiz

        My first programming was using paper tape. The computer had 400 bytes of memory and took up a good portion of a small room. Machine language FTW!

      • Nephilium

        But IOS is really just for networking equipment. It’d be pretty tough to port any user applications over to it.

      • Jarflax

        Hey I was careful to keep the i lower case dammit.

    • UnCivilServant

      And I did it all wrong. 🙁 The behaviour isn’t want I was trying for.

      • UnCivilServant

        But I might know the fix…

        I have to run more tests… more… tests…

      • Rasilio

        Always with the testes

      • Ted S.

        But whoever creates training modules was able to get some sweet kickbacks requiring everybody to take sexual harassment training.

  16. "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

    Your elites are better understood as representatives of the Chinese Communist party and should be treated as such. They’re not American and you should never think of them as being anything other than foreign agents intent on stripping you of liberty. Spit on them if you see them and boo them mercilessly. No respect should ever be afforded to Chinese collaborators.

    • Florida Man

      I don’t recognize anyone as superior to me, so I don’t know to whom you are referring.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        You sir, will be a tough nut to crack in the gulags.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Everyone cracks eventually. I love Big Brother.

      • Jarflax

        Organ donor.

      • Florida Man

        The jokes on the recipient.

      • Naptown Bill

        I apologize in advance to whoever gets my liver.

    • Raston Bot

      you misspelled “effetes”.

    • Unreconstructed

      Why did the dream scene from The Princess Bride come to mind?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Our elites turned their backs on true love?

      • Florida Man

        BOO!!!

      • Unreconstructed

        No, they still have true love of power. *sad face*

      • Rebel Scum

        Inconceivable!

      • Jarflax

        I dunno about this. I watched them around Obama and think they know true love.

      • Unreconstructed

        As in, the difference between lust and love?

      • Chipwooder

        Wuvvvvv, twue wuvvvvvv

      • pistoffnick

        “Anybody want a peanut?”

      • Florida Man

        I miss the hippo avatar.

      • Florida Man

        *chuckle*

      • Gender Traitor

        Your avatar had me shivering & breathing into a paper bag, but somehow that link made it all better. Thanks!

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        “On some days, when the sky is blue
        And I have nothing much to do
        I think a thoughtful thought or two
        And wonder, wonder where are you?”

        Pooh poem

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Also, I can’t imagine Pooh submitting to the Chicoms. Rabbit, maybe. But, Pooh? Oh bother

      • Gender Traitor

        Pooh poetry is the best poetry!

        Fun fact of interest to no one but me: Pooh taught me to read!

        “The more it snows (tiddley pom)…”

      • Gender Traitor

        I’m thinking Owl might be the first to cave. Tigger leading the street protests?

      • l0b0t

        GT, you’re bringing a tear to my eye. I still have the very dogeared copies of the Christopher Robin/Pooh books that were some the very first my mom read to me. My 5 year-old gets excited when we break out When We Were Six. Also, unrelated, he misnames popcorn as “cop porn” and wifey and I stifle giggles.

      • Gender Traitor

        I barely remember not knowing how to read, but here’s what little I recall: At bedtime, Mom would read to my next-older sis & me from “The World of Pooh” (one volume w/ WtP & H@PC.) She’d read narration & most character’s dialogue, but Little GT & big sis could each read one character’s lines. I HAD to learn to read so I could read Piglet’s dialogue.

        Thank you, Pooh, Milne, & Mom.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        It would be a real shame if people starting printing shirts like that and wearing them to NBA games. A real shame

      • Jarflax

        Yeah, it always sucks when you are refused admission after paying several hundred for tickets

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Fair enough. I’m still going to pay for a bunch of the “Free Hong Kong” shirts to be printed and then hand them out to fans attending my local NBA team’s games.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Oh, just have Free Hong Kong in Chinese characters. If security asks you what it means tell them it says “How much for that pretty mouse?”

      • pistoffnick

        *Spoken in a “Deliverance” voice*

        You sure got a pretty mouse.

  17. Chipwooder

    Nothing brings swamp creatures of the left and the right together like their outrage whenever someone tries to end American involvement in a foreign war.

  18. "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7555931/Mark-Ruffalo-blasts-Ellen-DeGeneres-friendship-George-W-Bush.html

    Mark Ruffalo (aka “human piece of shit”) says being friends with Bush is problematic and Trump should be prosecuted.

    Noted asshole, Ruffalo, works for Marvel, which is owned by Chicom subsidiary, Disney. Not to mention that noted asshole, Ruffalo, seems to believe that Obama committed no war crimes, because Ruffalo is a human piece of shit.

    • Mojeaux

      because Ruffalo is a human piece of shit

      This is known.

    • leon

      The staffer has committed suicide by running herself over with an SUV and then backing over herself several times.

  19. l0b0t

    OT – I beg help from the Glib brain trust, specifically the cinephile folk but really, anyone who is knowledgeable in fine cinematography and the classics. I watched Revenge Of The Ninja today and am in need of a good martial arts binge. There was a film in the 1980s that involved an American who helped smuggle some kind of fancy katana into The Japans via a wheel chair whose owner was tortured and pushed out a speeding ambulance in an effort by the antagonist to recover the blade; IIRC, the other matching sword was already in their possession. The American then had to train, ninja style (including being buried up to his neck for a spell), so he could confront the baddie. What was the name of this fine film?

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Once again President Trump is undermining our democracy.

  20. DEG

    Excellent. Laila is a good addition to the crew.

    Which is the correct spelling? Xenu or Zenu? Or is Random Drunken Asshole trolling us?