The timing of this article is ironic since most of you will be in an alcohol induced fog while reading this. Some from drinking away the pain of yesterday’s games. Some from celebrating today’s games. Oh well.
From time to time, someone has asked about how much protein they need to support their workouts. I have no idea and am completely unqualifed to answer the question. But the good people at Stronger By Science are qualified. Their article does an excellent job of breaking down what you need and when.
A lot of the recommendations were surprises to me. First, the idea the amount of protein needed varies very little, if at all, by size. “This might sound counterintuitive, but remember the two functions of protein for muscle: protein provides the building blocks for muscle growth, and it triggers muscle protein synthesis. It appears that even a relatively small amount of protein provides more than enough building blocks for muscle growth, whether you’re big or small.” I had no idea consuming enough protein helped to trigger muscle growth. This has some significant implications if you want to put on muscle.
The author notes plant based protein is less anabolic than meat based protein. That isn’t good news for us vegetarians. But we have a way around this! “However, you can (largely) compensate for the lower anabolic properties of plant-based protein by simply eating more of it (Gorissen, 2016). However, this means that protein recommendations should not be seen as a number set in stone. The exact amount of protein you need is dependent on the protein quality of diet. If you consume a lot of plant-based protein, you likely need to eat more total daily protein to compensate for the lower protein quality.” Thank you, science.
Apparently “older adults” have anabolic resistance. The author doesn’t define older so I don’t know if my 55 year old ass falls in that category. I’ll just assume it does. “…Since older adults need more protein to optimally stimulate MPS, they should aim for at least 40g of protein per meal if they want to maximize gains….” Got it. The makers of vegan protein powder just rubbed their hands with glee.
The author also has an “advanced hypothesis” that taking leucine is a big plus. He is very clear that branched chain amino acids (BCAA) are a waste of money and may even be mild detriment to gains. While leucine is an amino acid, simply eating a lot more protein isn’t the ideal way to get it. It’s got something to do with absorption times and the amount of leucine in blood plasma levels. Read the article if you want to understand this. Long story short, the author recommends taking supplemental leucine 15-30 minutes before consuming a meal for best results.
Comments havent started here yet, but I don’t want to get caught leucine.
Although amino harm, I’m reaching for the catbutt.
I wish acid it before you did.
Glycine what you did there.
Isnt that the name of BB King’s guitar ?
Amino disrespect, but that pun sucked
DON’T TALK ABOUT LEUCINE!
Get thee to a punnery!
WTF is Swiss when I need him?
Chafed; I want to say that while I am not currently following any of the advice you are writing in these articles, I do read them and appreciate them. One day I’ll work on getting in better shape, then I can revisit these.
Thanks MikeS. I appreciate it. Serious question, weren’t you setting up indoor cycling to stay in shape over the winter?
Second and unrelated question for you. I know you don’t like Rush. I have taken it to mean their style of music rather than the musicianship of the members. Any thoughts on Neal Peart’s death?
I intended to set up my bike indoors. Never happened. I have no excuse other than my procrastination won again. I didn’t even ride outside last summer.
re: Rush. It’s somewhat their style, but honestly, it’s mostly Geddy’s voice. If I’m daydreaming and not really paying attention and a Rush song comes on, sometimes I’ll catch myself tapping my finger and/or humming along. Then Geddy’s voice eventually stabs into my consciousness and I turn the channel like my life depends on it.
I think all three of them are/were (RIP Neal) tremendous musicians. I’d love to visit a parallel universe where they hired a lead singer and perform as a quartet. I still doubt they’d be my favorite band, but I might appreciate them a lot more.
Also, overplay on the shitty local rock station might have something to do with it. In the 80’s-90’s the local station played them seemingly no less often than once every 1.5 hours. And yet, opinions from everyone I ever asked about Rush ranged from “meh” to “hell no”. Until this place, I was convinced that the only people who really liked Rush were musicians, wannabe musicians, and DJs. I still say that is by far their largest fan group. I.e. people who recognize and value their technical expertise.
Wow. That’s way more than I ever thought I’d write about Rush. Haha!
You misspelled Boston.
Embrace the power of “and”.
You aren’t wrong.
Obviously more than a feeling.
That’s a fair assessment. Thanks.
I’ve seen them 4 times, starting in 1987. They were extremely talented in everything they did, from lyrics to drums, bass, guitar, you name it. Unparalleled virtuosity across the board. Many don’t like Geddy’s vocal tonality, but in 1987, i saw him play the bass, harmonica and keyboards simultaneously and at top level on all three. Then, he calmly sang ” and the meek shall inherit the earth” in a sarcastic way before jumping back into some crazy leads. I was so impressed, I see them every chance I get since.
The last time I saw them, I went to a Starbucks the morning of the show. Some guy pulled up on a BMW motorcycle and I was tempted to go talk to him about touring on bikes, but I blew it off. Later that night, the exact bike was parked out front of the Greek theater and when they put Neil Peart’s face on the jumbotron, I realized he was the guy from that morning. I missed my chance at bitching him out for selling out on the libertarian thing, by THAT much!
I don’t know if it’s change in diet or if it’s sunlight intensity I’ve not previously experienced, but since moving to San Diego, I’ve noticed my fingernails and hair grow faster now.
Keratin I guess?
It’s our government mandated organic water. It’s government regulated so it’s responsible for all sorts of good things.
Mine grow faster at the beach. Might be something to do with saltwater/sand or something.
You’re talking about your moobs, right?
This week saw me drop in the rankings due to a combination of the thaw bringing some more good shooters out, and also my focusing on my accuracy — which paid off. 1.45 shots/target. I’ve decided I’m quite fond of the stages “Showdown” and “Roundabout.”
The fact that Romo is announcing the Texans v Chiefs game is icing on the cake of what is turning into a great and surprising contest.
LOL the Bills could have beat these dopes.
I’m watching a blowout. Not much of a contest at all.
I was totally convinced that the SB was going to be Ravens v. 49ers.
FAIL.
This drive is pivotal – another TD and they’re screwed.
Since it was a field goal, are they only partly screwed?
Just the tip!
A quick grab over the chinos. Wusses.
You were saying?
Now I’m watching a contest.
‘splosives may be redeemed. This IS turning into a good game.
To re-enrounden a barrel: https://imgur.com/gallery/XIMs2OK
Whoa. I am severely impressed.
At the video editing? Because I am pretty sure that as a joke fake video.
I didn’t think it might be edited. I’m interested in how things work and very often I see bizarre things that really work, so I’m willing to believe it might be possible.
Was that dynamite?
Brute force is sometimes the best way.
Now he has storage for his lube.
Speaking of protein.
https://www.foxnews.com/great-outdoors/fisherman-350-pound-warsaw-grouper-florida
That’s a big ass fish.
Ass fish is the worst kind of fish.
The Icelandic would like a word .
That sounds horrible. I was gagging just reading the article.
I have an Icelandic buddy that brought some of that back the last time he visited. His wife insisted that he not open the container inside our house. She was right. Even outside and several feet away it was seriously pungent. Rotting fish and ammonia was what it smelled like. I’m an adventurous eater and there is no way I could get a spoon of that stuff near my mouth.
And it’ll get even bigger every time he tells the story.
I lol’d.
I saw a semi serious discourse on how Jonah was in the “belly of the whale”. They postulated that it was a grouper, not a whale, because they can and do hold stuff in their mouths for days.
Peeps be crazy. I always thought it was allegory. Still do, to be honest.
On topic: This may sound like excuses, but I swear it’s not. Protein has been a problem since my ulcer put me in the hospital in April. My symptoms (before the blood started showing up) were shortness of breath on any exertion and dizzy spells and no energy. I was not eating much (couldn’t), especially not protein or fat. That got straightened out pretty well but even with regular omeprazole, I was not handling protein or fat well. Went out for steak (someone else was buying) and I got … lobster bisque. I couldn’t touch a steak, which is not like me at all. I do not generally like pork, but now it seems that’s the only meat I can tolerate.
And so a while back, I stopped the omeprazole because everything was going fairly well. Well. My tolerance for protein and fat went down further. Lately I have had a lot of dizzy spells and shortness of breath so I started up the omeprazole again. Last night I got winded and crampy (fingers) just kneading bread dough.
I honestly don’t know what to do now. It’s not like I can go to the doctor and say, “Hey, I feel weird.”
You sound like you’re anemic.
That is a normal state of existence for me. I have twice needed a transfusion and they have twice chosen to give me iron pills instead.
Yes you can.
TBH, I don’t have the money to go for “I feel weird” when my kids have varied and sundry solid diagnoses that require constant time, attention, and money.
Don’t wait. And let me know what you find out. I’m also on omeprazole and have been having similar symptoms lately.
See comment about funds.
I can eat meat. I just have to have a lot of some kind of buffer with it, e.g., BBQ sauce, refried beans, sour cream, bread, cheese, something. Chili is okay. Stroganoff is okay. Marinara is okay. Turkey with mayo is okay, but not without bread. Kielbasa is okay, but no other kind of sausage, and best with sauerkraut.
It can’t just be the ulcer because citrus doesn’t hurt anything and in fact, makes it feel better. I feel better with spicier food and pickled food. It makes no sense.
Eat more chili. I’m not seeing a problem here.
By George … that might work.
I have the world’s best Bolognese Sauce recipe if you’d like meat sauce for pasta. Consider switching to gluten-free pasta — not for gluten free, but brown rice protein. Jovial is quite good.
I’m on a (very) restricted diet & I’m grateful for the protein in brown rice. And peanut butter — I’d starve if I couldn’t eat pb.
Holler if you’d like the Bolognese recipe.
Will do! I put beef in my marinara and my son loves it, so he’d be happy, too.
Late thought, the recipe might not be okay — 2 cups of red wine. Now the cooking process is designed to cook off 100% of the alcohol, but I don’t know the strictures you’re under on something like this. But happy to share if you can use it.
That sounds terrible. ?
How do you handle vegetable based protein and fats? Like avocados or nuts?
That’s a good question. Is it protein itself Mo or the source of protein?
I don’t know.
I’m coming from a strict Atkins background. For 2 years I was on <20 grams of carbs per day and I ate a lot of fat with it. I was lifting weights, walking, losing weight steadily, lots of energy. (But I stack too.) I know this works. I have, in my life, gravitated naturally to a low-carb diet without knowing what I was doing.
So this is really really bad. I may not adhere to low-carb, but it's always there as my failsafe. It's available at my convenience.
Now it's not. Now I've lost it and I don't know what to do.
Oh, and forget my belief that Hollandaise sauce is a beverage. The last time I made it, it was inedible, and it was perfect (lots of lemon and paprika).
What about fish? That’s usually easier on the stomach provided you don’t dislike the taste. Hell, you could do a ceviche if citrus and spice helps with your ulcer.
Tuna is fine. I like fish, but I don’t cook it very well.
Do you like tilapia? Mr. GT & I just fry it up – we’re about as far as you can get from foodies and still eat – and find it quite tasty.
Yeah, I can do that. Thanks!
I don’t eat avocadoes without it being mixed with something.
Nuts are fine, but not macadamias, which I used to love and was a staple of my Atkinsing.
That’s a good point. Tofu and stuff like collards or spinach would cover protein and iron pretty well.
They can do a full panel blood test and see if things are out of balance.
Also, get your thyroid tested.
You need to have your hemoglobin checked. Long term proton pump inhibitor use can also cause low magnesium levels which can then lead to low potassium levels
I fell asleep for most of the first quarter and woke up to the Kansas City Ravens. As to protein, Pork roast in the smoker soon to be shredded.
Ha, perhaps I spoke too soon.
Yeah, it’s getting good! I have no dog in the fight, just want a good game.
Well well well. That was mildly encouraging.
Marginally. I am unimpressed.
2 more TD’s and they’ll be right back in it!
1 more!
See! I was right! They are right back in it!
Things are getting more interesting….
Even more interesting….
See what you can do when your receivers actually catch the ball?
I made a dish today with green beans, yellow squash, red onion, white mushrooms, and smoked sausage. If that’s not all the colors of the rainbow I don’t know what a rainbow is.
It’s nice when people have pride in their cooking.
Did you include blue diamonds and purple horseshoes?
You’ll never get me lucky charms!
How diverse! Pat yourself on the back.
I don’t see race, I see food.
^racist
Did somebody tell KC this isn’t a scrimmage?
How Much Protein You Need
All of it. In fact, I might go make a t-bone.
Additionally, what the hell is up with the Chiefs? I started sweeping and vacuuming (somehow working up a sweat so I guess that counts as exercise…) and by the time I was done they were down by 21. I see they finally scored though.
” I might go make a t-bone”
Always a solid plan. ?
HO.LEE.SHITE.
IKR??
Time for popcorn.
3 -TDs 3:26 minutes.
Kelce put his cape on.
Just checked score. Quite the comeback. Only 2nd quarter. Is this the SEC? Lol.
At least I’m getting entertained before having my hopes of a win crushed.
Did somebody remind him his contract is up or something? He dropped a couple early, and now this.
Momentum appears to have shifted.
Then I spend a few minutes getting my stream working since my tv antennae sucks and they are back in it. I keep missing all the good shit.
I get crap antenna here in the foothills. So I subscribe to Fubo over the Internet. Fantastic.
They even play all the games that are “blacked out” on NFL Sunday ticket.
The “blackout” shit annoys me. I have ESPN+ and I couldn’t watch any DC United games until I figured out that a VPN gets around the blackout.
I like Fubo because they do far more than football. They show Aussie Rules, Rugby, all the Futbol you could hope for, college games, etc.
They also show the local news, NFL specials (30 for 30 and so forth), movies and more. I assume it is streamed from somewhere outside the US.
And now there is a horse and carriage strolling down my street. I haven’t had that much to drink so I assume the Amish are invading the suburbs of Richmond.
Do you live on Mulberry Street?
Nah, I’m outside the city.
Mulberry Street
Oh. That reference was over my head.
I honestly wasn’t sure if anyone would get it, but I had to try. ?
You ever kill any time at the Locker Room bar on Forest Hill ?
Ive put a lot of money there when I was a sub-contractor for a company in Richmond.
This is a book I utilized back when I lifted a lot that may be of interest to you Glib Fitters. Regarding Leucine, they recommend a gram during the Energy Phase (starting 10 minutes before and throughout the workout) along with protein some other suppliments, and 1-2 grams during the Anabolic phase (within 45 minutes after a workout), along with Glutamine, Protein and a some vitamins. Both along with some High-glycemic carbs to help metabolize the protein and for energy.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1591201411/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_cJ4gEbJSJWH8J
The book is dated but still has some decent info.
Being dated may be a problem. I’m not an expert. I’m completely relying on the article I cited. It appears the timing on the leucine is important. Getting your serum level raised before consuming protein appears to be key.
As far as being dated goes, I just mentioned it because I would think this research has probably been built on and refined in the last 15 years, not that it’s not good or that it doesn’t work.
Currently firing up grill. Pork chops have protein, dont they? I might have to eat two just to be sure I get enough.
Also chopped up a few boiled eggs in the salad.
We must have some kind of cooties going around here. I went to buy sausage biscuits Friday morning and the girl running the counter looked like she had one foot on a banana peel. As I was leaving I said “Have a nice day” she tried to reply and. her voice broke. I thought, I guess I am fucked now.
Just now have a sore throat, suspicious grumbling in my gut and if I stand or exert myself at all I get light headed to the point of nearly falling down.
Great. Just great.
We had leftover pizza with eggs over easy on top. Leftover steak reheated. And bacon for breakfast. Dinner will be leftover farfalle in a cream sauce with mild Italian sausage, bacon, mushrooms, and shallots. I’m sipping red wine, watching football. It’s a good day.
All this talk about food is making me hungry. But i don’t have much of anything in the house, and i don’t feel like going anywhere.
Hmmph
I guess you don’t want to hear about the garlic, soy and sesame oil my chops are soaking in now, nor the kumquat sweet sauce I am going to glaze them with so, I wont talk about them.
*No food delivery service?
I’m grilling up some pork chops too.
I went simple. I hit them with some hickory smoked sea salt then then added https://www.influenster.com/reviews/trader-joes-21-seasoning-salute-blend
That 21 seasoning is excellent.
The Fat Girl Party rolls on….
Im making ghetto chinese. Chicken, teriyaki, soy, veggies.
Needs more cashews.
Oh, they were in there too
Make a run down to The Roost.
Better Turbo Tax commercial: Taxation is theft. Get more of your money back from the thieves by using Turbo Tax.
O.
M.
G.
Houston: Watch us make 3 TDs in one quarter!
Kansas City: Hold my beer.
*still cowering in deathly fear of a loss*
*feebly waves McDonald’s issued Chiefs banner*
I just remembered I have some potato soup. Potato soup with bacon and cheese for dinner.
And Bob’s your uncle!
Yummy! on all counts!
Hey, not bad.
I found some small reds at the store the other day and bought quite a lot. I think the biggest ones ini the lot are about 1″ in diameter. I made a batch already….potatoes, bacon, basil, a little onion. and sour cream. Sour cream…you can never have too much sour cream. I love potato soup.
I almost didnt get to eat any. When done I put it on simmer and went to shower. When I came back I saw Mrs. Suthenboy eating some and before I asked if she liked it I noticed she had eaten more than half of it.
Did I mention they are very small potatoes? I like those because of the high skin/potato ratio.
The wife made potato and corn chowder with chicken and bacon.
Never tried potato soup.
*takes notes*
Potatoes, onions “in proportion.” Peel, boil until cooked barely through.
Drain. Start to mash, add sour cream, continue mashing until desired consistency. Back when I could eat onions and sour cream, I used enough for a very thick soup. From there, dilute with milk or half-n-half. Salt & pepper to taste. Chopped chives &/or crumbled bacon for garnish. Viola!
Glibfitters, cut back on your carbs.
https://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/recipes/
This site has great recipes.
Excellent! I am going to make the coconut shrimp to go with my pulled pork. Bookmarked, thanks!
*No food delivery service?
You’re funny. They’d hang up on me when I told them where i live.
Bed-Stuy ?
“it’s not far, just take a left at the field with the crooked tree and a black cow!”
Me too, but for different reasons, being in the middle of nowhere.
Nothing like coming back from a day of shooting to beef stew in the crockpot. I’m debating opening a bottle of cider, but I think I’ll be good and have some Few for dessert instead.
I’m happy to see this turned into a football game.
I finally had some free time and went to the park for some disc golf, haven’t played in 20 years and it showed. i came home, grabbed Bella and went back for a walk, she had a good time as usual. Then I went back after lunch and played 18 holes, 2 Double bogies, 9 Bogies and 7 pars, not bad for the old man, my Short game Rocks! still cant drive for shit…
Good for you. My fuse seems to be a bit short today, but I’m still enjoying football.
It really is, the mind gets tired, and a nice walk in the park helps clear things out,
I missed a hole in one by about a foot, it then proceeded to roll 30 feet, right into the river, I recovered for par, that was fun..
Sausage, potatoes, apples, onions, peppers about to come out of crock pot.
And I kill the first person that calls me a hippie!
Fuck off, hippie!
Your just jelly I can walk 18 on a nice winters day, 68 and sunny, no wind,
Come play,
You’re right, I am.
?❄
I have plenty of RV parking, seriously, if you ever have a mind, it’s nice here in the winter,
It’s likely not in the cards this winter, but I certainly will keep it in mind in the future. I’d love to play 18 with you in January!
I’m close enough, I could play 27 holes, have lunch and a beer, then play 27 more before dark, like 3 minutes from home, fucking awesome!
I’ve got snowshoes in the trunk of my car in case of emergency, but haven’t actually used them even in a non-emergency case.
Oddly, that was the weather in Boston today as well.
Crazy.
Greta Agrees,
Hey, I play disc golf too. And there’s nothing Hippie about me…wait…fuck…
79 and clear. I trimmed my wheel wells to accommodate new 17s with KO2’s. Truck looks pretty sick now. I’m going for the murdered out look with black emblems, grill and bumper.
Throws hacky sack at Yusef.
Rainbows it back to Sean….
I’m so glad I decided to stick through the game instead of going out to eat.
For a garage-based workbench, I’ll want to use oil based stain to protect against humidity, right?
Agreed, any paints would be scarred and compromised almost immediately, but you will need to treat it with Linseed oil forever…
I always use oil-based stain, but where are you that you have to protect against humidity?
In any case, after staining, use wax.
The garage. It rains a LOT up here.
Yusef’s suggestion of linseed oil is good too. Maybe teak oil would be a better choice, as it is specifically for rain on wood.
I like BLO for tool handles, but it is an ongoing mtc thing.
You dont want sealer per se, as much as a filler, oil fills the pores, rejecting moisture, while still allowing the wood to aspirate…
/Bob the Builder
A Delft oil finish is also an appealing option that can be refreshed as needed without having to strip a finish.
Wise MLW!
I bought this because a friend who is more jacked than me recommended plant based protein. I’m going to start using it Monday. If I get shredded I’ll let you know, but it’s doubtful since I turn 39 this week.
Genius Vegan Protein Powder –… https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W6KS4QQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
39? I didn’t start turning to irreversible mush until I hit 50.
Really? 56 and no mush, just a bit tired and creaky, I’m sure you are in similar condition…
I’m 54. We all weren’t blessed with your metabolism. And ya on the tired and creaky even with the premature new hip. Work has me walking 3-6 miles a day and more sometimes but still struggle to lose the pudge now. Probably due to days like today when I do nothing but cook, eat, drink and watch football. Ten years ago I could lose the gut in a month by just walking more with some interval sprints, crunches and pushups. I can’t walk more now it hurts.
Yeah, I turn 54 next Sunday. I could’nt gain weight if I tried. I have always been between 135 and 145, usually around 140. I eat lot’s of meat, like every meal. Mostly Italian and Mexican food. I throw in a small amount of plant based stuff sometimes. I’m less dense and strong as I was, but the main difference is I have lot’s more aches and pains. Switch around between Ibuprofin and Naproxen. It really doesn’t help much.
56 hurts. Not looking forward to 60 or 70.
Daughter #1 turned 40 on Friday. She told me, “I remember when you turned 40. I thought that you were old!“
Gawd I miss 40. Physically, I was a friggin’ rock star.
Hmmm, I recall my 50th birthday trip to Italy and a “friggin’ rock star” falling waaaaaaay back going up and down the hills in Piemonte. “Dude, at least let me catch up!”
(same walk would kill me now)
Yeah, let’s get drunk and go for a walk.
Same here. Now every time I get up there are creaks and cracks and lots of moaning. Not only was I stupid enough to go hard on my body in my youth but then I came down with RA. So these are the golden years….
This, I was a God
Proper response: i was and now you are.
When I hugged her I said, “Happy birthday, old lady!”
Rob, are you in SC (follow-up from last thread)?
“Lordy Lordy, Bob is 40!” was a sign the neighbors put in front of our house when my Dad hit that age. Fuck, where did all the years go?
My spousal unit just turned 62. His knees are shot, but otherwise he’s doing fine.
Get everything you can taken care of now. None of it gets better and a lot of “I can put up with it” gets to where you can’t. Or would really rather not, but now it’s a bigger deal than it was.
I turned 68.5 Christmas Day and regret not being more proactive about launching into my 60s with a full tune up.
Shit still happens, but the better the chassis and driver are, the smother the ride.
I read that as “smother the fries”.
In gravy!
sigh
Sorry about that.
FWIW, my other regret is that I didn’t do nearly enough “fine dining”. And I’m willing to grant that there are occasions and persons for whom fries smothered in gravy count as fine dining. IOW, I regret not being much more of a sybarite about food and dining.
I opened that up, saw a zip code, turns out my son had just ordered that vegan protein stuff. How bizarre is that?
As bizarre as a Chevy 69…
If I want to know the rest, do I have to buy the rights?
Can someone explain what the KC mascot is? It looks like a rat or wolf. Does not compute with Chiefs.
Wolf. It used to be an Indian brave, but that was not woke.
It cracked me up when the Chiefs were down by 3 touchdowns and they showed the wolf in the tunnel banging his polymascotfoamalete head against the wall.
Caught that and laughed as well.
#metoo except it looks like a mouse
That’s what I thought. “Why pick a rat as a mascot?”
I was wondering the same thing. Wolf doesn’t really go with the logo though.
The woke bs is why if I owned the Redskins and the sjw’s expressed issue with it I would change it to the Savages.
The change from the chief in full war regalia riding a pinto horse around to this funky KCWolf thing which I do not like haopened in 1989, well ahead of this SJW nonsense but I seem to remember that it was done almost quietly in the middle of another Redskins dust-up.
Did I mention they are very small potatoes? I like those because of the high skin/potato ratio.
Another thing i “used to do”:
Grate little baby red skin potatoes (coarse) into the wok with onions and bacon and other random stuff for hash browns.
Yum
OT: I was hoping to catch a shrimp molting, but I find them mesmerizing, whatever they do.
Now I want shrimp cocktail. There’s some nice protein for you.
I don’t think shellfish have any protein. They are 100% cholesterol.
LOL!
You should go work for the government or maybe Harvard Medical School!
Very cool. Do you have any special equipment for aquarium pics/vids or was that just your cell?
Also, what kind of shrimp is that?
Just the cell propped up against the tank. They’re much darker and more vibrant red than in the video.
These are freshwater cherry shrimp. I used to breed them back in college and sell them to fund my aquarium hobby. Pretty much everything that can get its mouth around them will try to eat them, so you’re stuck with small fish or have to design a hideaway into the tank.
Ahh. I had a couple cherrys, as well as a few ghosts, but they didn’t make it. I’m reasonable certain it wasn’t from predation as the biggest fish in my aquarium are Black Phantom Tetras. This summer I plan on ordering some Amano shrimp and seeing if they’ll do better.
Cherries are sensitive to nitrates and copper. They also need something to eat, so they’re not the best for a new aquarium. That said, I dumped some into my tank while it (unintentionally) cycled. Lost 15 tetras and zero shrimp.
I’ll write up an article on the tank once it fills in. It’s only 3 weeks old, so the plants are just starting to grow.
????
I’ve been thinking about setting up a small 2-5 gallon desktop tank. I was thinking frogs, but shrimp would be a nice option for stocking it. Or both.
Nice. What size tank, what else is in it. Is it food (daphnia maybe) in the water or?
I haven’t had a freshwater setup in close to 20 years but have been thinking about getting back in.
10 gallon tank with 7 cherry shrimp, 2 neon tetras, and a clown plecostemus.
The floating stuff was half junk because I just did a water change and half undissolved CO2 that I inject for the plants.
I had been out of the hobby for almost 5 years and decided to get back in to give me something in the house that is all my own. Things have changed a ton in 5 years. The LED lighting units are amazing!
What’s the latest in filtration? I think canisters + bio wheels were top end choices for large tanks, at least. I generally had 50s, but I’m wondering if I wouldn’t be as happy with maybe a 35. Eh, we”” see.
I’ve always been fascinated by Killifish, so that’s a different direction I might pivot to. I’ve only been saying that for 40 years ;-\
we’ll*
Canisters are still the gold standard. Personally, I’ve put a sump on everything 40+. It’s nice to not have to worry about screwing up the landscaping by dumping water in too roughly. I’ve never done the bio wheels because I’ve done planted tanks. The plants are lousy with bacteria.
Killifish are interesting fish! Years ago I saw a cool tank with killis and rainbow fish. It sparked my love of threadfin rainbows.
Can you expand on that?
I can, at least to an extent. The bio-wheels cultivate bacteria that break down nitrate and nitrite. Plants are likely lousy with well-established colonies and so can do the same job.
Ah! “Lousy” meaning “full of them” not “don’t handle them well”. Got it!
For a garage-based workbench, I’ll want to use oil based stain to protect against humidity, right?
Not polyurethane spar varnish?
^^^^
in the cart
I used a thick polyurethane on my bench. Holds up to solvents and oils. It’s also quite abuse tolerant.
RC Dean was right the first time, it is a blowout.
The rare game with two blowouts.
Wow. KC came out on their heels and now they’re killing Houston.
KC is on a warpath.
RACIST!!!!!
Tamales tonight.
SP is on a vegan stretch at the moment, which is too bad because I have an idea and we have the makings for something decidedly not vegan but potentially awesome. Tamales and red or green will be an extremely reasonable accommodation.
I’m not gonna challenge your vegetarianism, but I will just remind you that the most nutrient (amino)-dense foods are animals. Perhaps a switch to pescatorian? Fucking shellfish appear to be ridiculously loaded.
Whatever.
I’ve come to the conclusion, after a ton of research, is that .7 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass will keep you going just fine. Elite athletes, bodybuilders, etc. ,ay be a different story. I don’t care, really, because I’m just trying to keep this 52 year old body rolling along.
I’m really trying to reduce supplements, so I’ve been looking for more bang-for-buck foods.
Thanks for these, Chafed.
Whatever diet you choose, highly recommend taking probiotics daily. They do the jobs that your intestines won’t.
Kimchi, sauerkraut and other fermented foods are gross but fantastic.
I love sauerkraut and now I realize I have none in the house.
+1 FLAVORED kombucha
I made my own for awhile. The scoby grossed my health-freak wife right out, so we went back to store bought.
A friend that makes his own gave me a SCOBY that lived in my fridge for a long time.
I was going to make a stop-action film of it hooking up with bleu cheese to the tune of “Let’s Get It On”.
Sauerkraut gross? SAD!
Toss in some juniper berries and enjoy!
An Austrian restaurant that I loved and is now sadly closed did just that.
Yum.
The fact that all the best foods are fermented is proof in my mind that humans descended from scavengers.
Shrimp is high density high quality low(ish) calorie food. And it doesn’t seem all that expensive now, at least for supplementing your routine input occasionally.
84 cals/3 ounce serving, 18 grams protein.
Negative on going pescetarian Tundra. I went vegetarian in 1987 because of my beliefs about animals and the value of life.
Meat is more protein dense than plant based protein. But… look at what’s available today. Soy milk is 6g of protein per 8 ounces. The pancakes I made this morning were 18g. I have a vegan protein powder that’s 20g per scoop.
For me to follow the article’s recommendations will take a bit more work/planning than for a meat eater. That’s the way it will have to be.
Amazing how complicated staying healthy is, huh?
Good luck!
Just FYI, but according to one of those wacky San Fran think tanks concerned with wild animal welfare, bivalves have the same sentience level as plants.
Is this the NFL or the Big XII?
Yes.
The timing of this article is ironic since most of you will be in an alcohol induced fog while reading this. Some from drinking away the pain of yesterday’s games. Some from celebrating today’s games. Oh well.
Well… I had a little more than usual at today’s Sunday outing to the pub. I was fine to drive home.
The trainer I was working with at the gym before my disc herniation diagnosis came up with a two week program. It builds on some of the physical therapy work my old PT has had me do. The trainer based it on some reading he’s been doing about training athletes that have had back injuries plus some talks he’s had with trainers and physical therapists at the school where he is doing his Master’s work.
It’s a four day program. Two weeks.
I’ve done day one and two. I’ve banged the nerve a few times. The trainer has made some suggestions for exercise changes. I will incorporate them for day three which I plan to do tomorrow.
Wednesday I have the follow-up with the pain doctor and I expect a third cortisone shot.
The pain is up and down. Today was a bad day. Yesterday was a good day. Friday after the gym I iced and I went from bad to good.
I want to go back to PT but to a different PT center. I might have mentioned this last time I checked in. They won’t see me until they have a referral from my doctor. My doc issued one, but it has not made its way over to the PT center yet. Once it does, I will schedule an evaluation.
I am almost finished Stuart McGill’s “The Gift of Injury”. It’s something I should have read earlier.
To tie in with the pub and my last check-in, Mojeaux gave me some good advice about the bartender lady. She was working today. We chatted briefly during her shift. I found out that she had read “All Quiet on the Western Front” and like me thinks it was both sad and well done. Near the end of her shift when I paid, I thought to myself, “I’ll use Mojeaux’s advice!” She asked about my plans for the week. I told her about the possible cortisone shot. I asked about her week. She told me about it. I asked what she was doing later, thinking I could slide in with Mojeaux’s advice. She said, “I’m having drinks with my friend ” and points to the guy that I think is her boyfriend. Then she scurried off. I was a bit pissed at myself for missing the opening last week. I left and I’m not sure she heard me say bye.
But you TRIED and that is the important thing. It’s a win.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thing is … it’s not over.
1. She referred to the dude as a “friend.” That could mean one of three things*, but don’t sweat it. As long as she labels him friend, you’re in the running.
2. The seed is sown. It is sown respectfully. She will not forget.
3. There will come a moment you will be able to ask again. Best case: she will either make it clear she wants to be asked or she will ask you. Keep your eyeballs open for any clues that she wants you to ask again.
4. Until she refers to her “friend” as boyfriend or, worse, “husband,” there is hope. Lots more than it feels like right now.
* A) he really is a friend and she is honoring a commitment or B) she wants him to be her boyfriend or C) she doesn’t want to make the relationship public for whatever reason but generally, those reasons are flimsy.
The wisdom of Mojo astounds us.
As a MLW, I approve and endorse her message.
To both of you: Thank you.
DEG big kudos to you. You took a shot on goal. You won’t always score but you will sometimes.
There is no freaking way I’m going to get arrogant about this lead until :30 until the end of the game. And maybe not even then.
13:48 is a helluva lot of game left…
Indeed. Not one neener from me.
6 minutes. Still no neeners.
Neenering now approved.
OT: New York is asshole!
Bonus: AOC and her district are safe. All the population loss is upstate.
That only matters if the district boundaries make sense, rather than the map looking like a slow motion eel orgy.
HAWT
Slow motion eel orgy.
Wow. Words I never expected to see in a sentence together.
It’s a glorious time to be a live.
A live what?
?
Hovercrafts are the best places for them.
Is yours full ?
“Slow Motion Eel Orgy” would be a great title for a rave.
Or a Parliament song/album
New law requires “compact” districts for the next makeover.
Unless “compact” is pretty strictly defined, I have faith in the NY Dems and their ability to screw whomever they wish to screw.
FWIW the committee who draws the next map is required to be composed of “both” parties in equal measure. There’s some racialist nonsense too but from what I’ve seen the rest of it looks pretty legit. We shall see.
What do the NY Reps think about her? Will they be willing to conspire at a whacking? Or will they be happy to leave the albatross right where it is?
No idea. It’s getting increasingly dominated by fringe types so they probably love her.
Sorry, I meant the NY Republicans.
Oh, them. They are so powerless you hear literally nothing from them.
slow motion eel orgy.
I am not sure what to say here.
You ask “pornhub or Youtube?”
I tried both and wasn’t impressed.
Upstexit now!
I did that ~25 years ago.
It is flipping gorgeous up here. And although I do miss the people I left behind, these aren’t so bad. A little odd to my mind, but what they lack in Southern virtues, they have virtue of their own.
Hello, CBS? Show moar cheerleaders!!
It’s January in KC. Sadly, I think they’re mostly covered up.
I bought a vacuum sealer today. Why the fuck didn’t I do it earlier?
You’re just sealing random shit around the house, aren’t you?
My dog appears to be in some distress…
But I must say, the Vargas girl album cover is Great!
I can’t believe you knew that!
Yeah, I may have to keep this one around for awhile.
I thought it was relatively common knowledge.
Maybe common in this nerd-nest.
They weren’t shy about having gone after Vargas. For that band at that time, it was an inspired choice.
I have that album
The album covers he did for Bernadette Peters are nice too.
Will It Seal? YT channel in the making…
I got one awhile back. It’s nice to buy in bulk and then portion, seal, and freeze.
I had one I loved. Mostly used for food, but back when I used to sew fashion doll clothes (stifle your laughs) on eBay and at Gene doll conventions, I started vacuum sealing the outfits with a lovely presentation laid out showing shoes, jewelry etc.
Really made a pro impression.
Sigh. Been years since i did that. I also made chainmaille bras and hip pieces for the dolls. Sold for $150. It was like knitting—brainless therapy while listening to eBooks or TV.
Now think of your grandmother looking at you as if to say “kids these days.”
Haven’t had the cash to spend on one, but I have used the trailer trash version.
I think you need to log out of Amazon and clear your browser. That link was three feet long.
I want to get into Sous vide so I’ll need to get one.
That’s why I got it. Been using the sous vide more, plus Spawn 1 is away so I’m freezing more stuff.
Why is the Kansas City mascot a dog? Shouldn’t it be an Indian chief?
Mojeaux on January 12, 2020 at 4:48 pm
The change from the chief in full war regalia riding a pinto horse around to this funky KCWolf thing which I do not like haopened in 1989, well ahead of this SJW nonsense but I seem to remember that it was done almost quietly in the middle of another Redskins dust-up.
maybe they will eat me last……
Probably. You’re too scrawny to make good eating.
Warpaint is back, dammit!
Piss on the dog, Here’s their real mascot:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warpaint_(mascot)
“On September 20, 2009, a new Warpaint was unveiled at the Chiefs’ home opener against the Oakland Raiders at Arrowhead Stadium. The horse is ridden by Susie, a Chiefs cheerleader, in contrast to the original headdress-clad rider in its first incarnation.[3] Due to a positive response from fans at the first appearance, Warpaint and Susie now appear at all home games, including at pregame events.”
https://web.archive.org/web/20120210211812/http://www.georgeblowfish.com/Chiefspage7.html
Any tips on posture? i know how to sit straight, but age is getting in the way…
Take up yoga.
Keep the core strong and it takes care of itself. Walk a lot, stand a lot, squat a lot.
And Thai massage.
+ Bob Kraft
Thai massage will make a hard man humble
Exactly what I hoped it would be.
Bravo.
I got that part, I’m a tough little skinny Man, gotta keep rotating the hips and back though
Mojo?
+20 points and under 2 minutes.
I think its safe for you now.
NOW it’s safe!
I waited till 0:00 because I have been too burned.
*rubs butter on Mojo*
…go on
Ew, no, that’s the worst thing you can do for a burn.
Let me guess; KC is in the “Prevent Defense” which as far as I’ve ever been able to discern, prevents just about nothing.
*Not watching the game on TV, just following it in StatTracker*
““Prevent Defense” which as far as I’ve ever been able to discern, prevents just about nothing.”
It prevents the team ahead from putting away the game.
Speaking of the foozball. Yesterday evening I had my patio doors open all during the game and after. A short while after the game, the wife and I were just sitting on the sofa chatting and I said ‘The Ravens lost’. She said ‘…how do you know, you’re not watching?’. I said ‘Listen, do you hear that?’. She said ‘Hear what?’. I said ‘Exactly, tears in your beers is a fairly silent event’. Then I logged into NFL on my phone and said ‘told you so’.
0:00
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYYYYYY
NEENER NEENER NEENER
So the Chiefs have decided to choke in the championship again this year? Never thought I was going to see a TN vs SF championship game. I mean, Russell Wilson still might pull it off, we’ll see.
Did you hear? Neil Peart died.
Yes. Neil didn’t get to see the Chiefs choke again, poor guy.
*squints* Can’t tell if serious …
“Never thought I was going to see a TN vs SF championship game.”
Or Superbowl, I guess that’s more likely.
Except, the Chiefs just blew the Texans out by 20, in case you are serious.
Wow. That’s crazy.
Oh ye of little faith.
Not my fault.
Looks like Bloomberg made a major ad buy on fox for during this game. Got 2 in 2 commercial breaks.
Yeah , he’s desperate.
Green Bay, that is all you need to get past……
New thread alert!
Looks like Bloomberg made a major ad buy on fox for during this game. Got 2 in 2 commercial breaks.
We’re his people.