Thursday Afternoon Links

by | Jan 9, 2020 | Daily Links | 397 comments

Good afternoon, everyone. Today’s adventure in the new work computer was: Which version of dev tool X did I have on my old computer? I failed that test several times today, and had to retake it. Other than that, its been a meeting-ful day. Between the two things, I’ll be lucky to get a lick of akshual work done.

Looks like someone got twitchy at an Iranian SAM site. What a horrible reason to die in a plane crash.

Oh yeah, I’m sure the Saudis were really sad their world hyper-power buddy started flexing on their regional enemy. Given that they’ve been running a proxy war through Yemen for the last couple of years, I’m a little doubtful.

Definitely need those winning Powerball numbers to come up. And to buy a ticket. Or just find the winner on the ground. Odds are about the same.

Well this is a fascinating overview of commonly prescribed drugs and personality changes.

This seems like a good-old-fashioned bar brawl.

About The Author

Brett L

Brett L

Brett set out to find America, the real America, the America of strip malls and serial killers, of butthole waxing and kelp smoothies, of cocaine and maggots. He sought it in the most American part of America—Florida: swamp gas and fever dreams, where love arrives on a rickety boat and leaves when it doesn't have the money for its fourth abortion. Oh, where has Brett gone? He’s drinking at the neck of America’s wang, chewing its foreskin and working its shaft. Brett is becoming legend. Brett can never die. Brett can never die. Brett is America, facedown in his own patriotic puke: the red his blood, the white his stomach lining, and the cold, cold blue his gas station slushie, spiked with coconut rum and tetracycline.

397 Comments

  1. Count Potato

    “Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Thursday his country has intelligence from their own sources and allies that suggests a Ukrainian airliner was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile.”

    At least he he doing something good for once.

    • Florida Man

      Seems like the Ukraine should be the most pissed.

      • Count Potato

        Well, apparently there were 63 Canadians. Which is half the population of Canada.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        Wow, that’s like 48 Americans.

      • Plinker762

        Was it wrong to laugh at this?

      • JD is Unemployed

        Or 204 Britons

      • Bobarian LMD

        There were, reportedly, a lot of Canooks on the plane as well.

      • leon

        Chinooks is the preferred term

      • JaimeRoberto Delecto

        I thought they were shnooks.

      • grrizzly

        Most–if not all–of the Canadians were of Iranian descent.

      • kinnath

        Persians.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Not just descent I believe. Dual citizens.

      • commodious spittoon

        They certainly descended on Iran after—

        Nope, too far.

    • invisible finger

      He prolly meant to say “Irkranian”

    • Rufus the Monocled

      For once.

      Shithead.

  2. Count Potato

    “Given that they’ve been running a proxy war through Yemen for the last couple of years, I’m a little doubtful.”

    Hasn’t the Shia vs. Sunni thing been going on for about a thousand years now?

    • PBRstreetgang

      Nah. As is the case with all bad things in the world, it began on November 9, 2016.

      • invisible finger

        So Obama’s fault then.

  3. Count Potato

    “And to buy a ticket. ”

    You can’t lose if you don’t play.

  4. Stinky Wizzleteats

    “ Looks like someone got twitchy at an Iranian SAM site.”

    I don’t know, the commenters over at ZeroHedge are saying the Jews did it.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      They made the Iranians do it? That’s a hell of a plot twist.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        They’re a crafty bunch.

    • JaimeRoberto Delecto

      It seems to me that if you were launching missiles from your country and were expecting possible retaliation, it would make sense to close your airspace to commercial flights for a little while. Inshallah.

  5. Count Potato

    Hi, Count, how’s it going?

    • Count Potato

      Pretty good, that toilet paper dried out OK, now I have to figure out this phone thing.

      • Count Potato

        Is that switching over from POTS to modem? Sorry, I don’t know much about it.

      • Count Potato

        I don’t either. Then again, we’re the same person, so we know the same things.

      • Count Potato

        LOL

      • Tonio

        Should we be worried about you?

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Don’t interrupt. I want to see where this goes.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Shhhhh. He’s not posting a link to that sex doll.

      • gbob

        Don’t interrupt. I want to see where this goes.

        Right? He might start masturbating. Let’s wait and see.

      • JaimeRoberto Delecto

        His IP has been compromised!

      • Ted S.

        Whoever said that as long as you’re talking to yourself you’re at least guaranteed to have an intelligent conversation was wrong.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Salty Ted strikes again

  6. Not Adahn

    Waiting for one of the techs to bring me a pair of wire strippers, realize that because of the last post I’m, whistling “The Lap Dance is so Much Better When the Stripper is Crying” in the lab.

    Well, it was a good job while it lasted.

    • Count Potato

      You should be OK. Whistling doesn’t have lyrics.

      • Bobarian LMD

        It’s the dancing and hand gestures that get you fired.

      • Gadfly

        This. If anyone knows what he’s whistling, they don’t exactly have the moral authority to call him out on it, do they?

    • Chipwooder

      Love Bloodhound Gang!!!! Miss em.

  7. leon

    Got a request from Jira to complete a survey. In their question about “What can Jira do better?” her was my reply.

    I imagine Jira is really nice for project managers who love to have 7 workflows and different bells and whistles. For me as a developer it is too much to try to keep track of. Really this isn’t Jira’s fault it’s the fault of Project Owners and Managers who want to overly manage the production process rather than boil it down into something simple and general. Jira just becomes like crack to an addict where they can add a infinite amount of drop downs, fill ins and labels and types that gets in the way of developers actually completing their job.

    In short Jira fills a roll (project task tracking) but does it in a way that enables and sometimes even encourages poor management practices, and eschews simplicity for complexity.

    • invisible finger

      You didn’t actually say what it could do better.

      • leon

        Educate managers on good management practices?

        They have a product, and they have a clientele. I imagine my advice is like telling a dealer that he should recommend his clients to rehab.

    • invisible finger

      The entire purpose of Jira is to break down a complex tax into simpler tasks, and then break down simpler tasks into so many minuscule tasks that it takes 10x longer to manage. That is why managers love it.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        *snort*

        I have encountered this technique before.

      • invisible finger

        I note that bug tracking systems do the exact opposite – one small bug often becomes the common place for every other issue the user finds so that it becomes useless for future developers to search for possible fixes that were done in the past.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I use tags. In fact I custom coded a tagging system into my ERP so I can tag pretty much anything. People have an easier time keying in and remembering things that way. Seems to work better than hierarchical grouping as well.

      • invisible finger

        Any system can and will be abused if the wrong people are allowed to use it.

      • Jarflax

        You coded a tagging system into your erotic role play? Is the hierarchy of your sexplay really that hard to keep track of?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        In my defense, there’s only two tags available, “penis” and “hole”

      • Pope Jimbo

        “Tag you are it

        *leers*

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      I’ve been using SmartSheet. Keep it simple with basic Kanban boards and Gantt charts.

      • leon

        ^^^^Simple. Most project managers want something complex (maybe because it makes them feel like what they are managing is hard?) and they want it to model how they want the process to go. Not how it actually goes. The whole point of Kanban and kanban boards is to accurately model what is actually happening and then start making minor improvements.

      • invisible finger

        “accurately model what is actually happening”

        That sounds like work.

      • Brett L

        The whole point of Kanban and kanban boards is to accurately model what is actually happening and then start making minor improvements.

        Have you… met.. real world PMs? My experience comes in two flavors:
        Good: Tell me what you need so you can do your work. Report on these two or three things so I can keep you out of manager meetings.
        Bad: Here is your by-the-minute task-list, scheduled for 40 hours per week. Additionally, we will have 10 hours of meetings per week so I hope you weren’t planning on eating lunch or seeing your family during daylight. Oh, and also these reports.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I would add to Bad: “I made the decision to cut the deadline in half without consulting you and already told the client. Even though I’ve insisted all other communication go through me, you’ll need to tell the client the deadline can’t be met.”

        I spent more time arguing about timelines with shitty project managers than I did on actual work. I realized this was just a time and money blackhole, so my company sent me through PM training, gave me access to the tools, and let me handle PMing whatever I work on now. It’s just easier this way.

      • Brett L

        My recent life got a lot better when we swapped a PM for a delivery manager. It’s weird how she saw her success in managing the project and he sees his success in managing successful delivery. Why, its almost as if the skillsets are different.

        I do love the: “all communications go through me unless I can’t be arsed to do this and/or it would involve me delivering bad news” one.

      • Drake

        I’ve never used Mira. I thought it was just a software burn board? I use Excel for simple projects and MS Project for complex ones. And yes – as a project manager, I see my job as keeping things simple for people while making sure we’re on track.

      • Drake

        Jira

      • robc

        Jira is fine as long as you stick to 3 lanes…To Do, Doing, Done.

        Thats it.

    • Mojeaux

      they can add a infinite amount of drop downs, fill ins and labels and types

      Sign me up.

      *salivates*

    • Mad Scientist

      Ugh. Jira is a giant pain in the ass. I miss TeamTrack.

    • Mojeaux

      What happened to good ol’ fashioned handwritten to-do lists?

      At least you could color a mind-map.

      Make that shit stick in your head.

  8. Rebel Scum

    “This may have been unintentional,” Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said at a press conference in Ottawa.

    And it never would have happened if Bad Orange Man hadn’t made the Iranians so nervous with his threats and warmongering.

  9. leon

    The Saudi-U.S. relationship has become particularly close since President Trump took office. It could prove to be a double-edged sword for the kingdom, analysts say, as Iran contemplates its next moves. Iran and Saudi Arabia have long battled for regional dominance, and the U.S. has supported the Saudi-led war in Yemen against Iran-backed Houthi forces.

    I mean it was close to start with. Get much closer and we’ll be feeling like a 12 year old boy among the saudi royalty.

  10. Not Adahn

    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Thursday his country has intelligence from their own sources and allies that suggests a Ukrainian airliner was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile.

    Maybe just stick with trying to predict when the maple sap will run?

    • DOOMco

      my bet is Feb 17th

      • Rhywun

        Only if the beaver sees his shadow.

      • dontreadonme

        I thought all beavers were female.

  11. leon

    “The Saudis are in a very tough spot, almost entirely of the Americans’ making,” says Henry Rome, an Iran analyst at the Eurasia Group, a global political risk consultancy.

    Look i’m not trying to absolve Americas involvement, but that’s like saying the knocked up slut is in a bad position, almost entirely of her parents making.

  12. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Back in 2011, a French father-of-two sued the pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline, claiming that the drug he was taking for Parkinson’s disease had turned him into a gambler and gay sex addict, and was responsible for risky behaviours that had led to him being raped.

    Story of my life

    • leon

      They’re turning the fuckin frogs gay!

      • Tonio

        [golf clap]

      • ChipsnSalsa

        holy shit Alex Jones was right.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Dude, frogs are already the gayest amphibians, so cut Jones some slack

      • invisible finger

        They swing both ways – land AND water.

      • Pope Jimbo

        and what do you expect when they spend a bunch of time as ladpoles.

  13. Count Potato

    “Others have not been so lucky. Over the years, Golomb has collected reports from patients across the United States – tales of broken marriages, destroyed careers, and a surprising number of men who have come unnervingly close to murdering their wives. In almost every case, the symptoms began when they started taking statins, then promptly returned to normal when they stopped; one man repeated this cycle five times before he realised what was going on.”

    Yikes!

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I can attest from personal experience that after about a week on prednisone I turn into an even bigger asshole.

      • Bobarian LMD

        How much weight did you put on?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’m in the class of people who eat less on prednisone. My blood pressure spikes and I’m just generally a massively irritable butthead.

      • Count Potato

        So no effect then?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I mean, what’s the point in taking it? It does nothing.

      • Bobarian LMD

        So you weren’t actually any bigger?

    • Count Potato

      “Back in 2011, a French father-of-two sued the pharmaceutical company GlaxoSMITHKline, claiming that the drug he was taking for Parkinson’s disease had turned him into a gambler and gay sex addict, and was responsible for risky behaviours that had led to him being raped.”

      I see the problem there.

    • Pope Jimbo

      When my dad was recovering from Guillen-Barre they were giving him a ton of steroids. That summer’s salmon trip was horrible. He had a couple roid rage incidents that were pretty scary. He went back to his normal ornery self after they took him off.

      • Fourscore

        I’m waiting for the smart pills to kick in. Been on ’em for about 5-6 years since the guy in Canada sold ’em to me with an auto refill. Took awhile to get used to the taste though.

  14. "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

    “Oh yeah, I’m sure the Saudis were really sad their world hyper-power buddy started flexing on their regional enemy. Given that they’ve been running a proxy war through Yemen for the last couple of years, I’m a little doubtful.”

    I want to see a Venn diagram of the people who believe this obvious BS from the Saudis against those people who believe that it’s perfectly logical to want to escalate tensions with Russia, while deescalating tensions with Iran. I have a feeling that would be a single circle.

    • peachy rex

      These would be the same Saudis who were the ultimate evildoers for whacking that journalist? They’re the good guys again? Dann, it’s tough to keep up.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Remember that the Turks were the good guys, according to the narrative, in that instance, because they ratted on the Saudis? That lasted a couple of months before Orange Man decided to withdraw troops from Syria (which never actually happened), then the Turks became the bad guys again.

        So stupid.

      • leon

        The Enemy of My Enemy is okay as long as that Enemy is Orangemanbad

      • peachy rex

        Oh yeah, the Turkish Flip-flop was an instant classic. I particularly enjoyed Erdogan in his role of brave defender of press freedoms

      • J. Frank Parnell

        These would be the same Saudis who were the ultimate evildoers for whacking that journalist?

        That was Trump’s fault, though.

      • leon

        He did say “Kill all the journalists!” I heard him say that.

  15. leon

    Whats the connection between Virgin and the powerball…..

    Oh boy, i’ve done it now haven’t i?

    • Jarflax

      You see leon, girls are known to allow wealthy men to take liberties with their pure and innocent bodies. Some toxic shitlord men have been known to aspire to wealth for this reason. The result of this phenomenon is what we refer to as “History”

      • Bobarian LMD

        If you win the powerball, you can grab them by the pussy.

      • Pope Jimbo

        If you win the powerball, what is the recovery time after they install it in your scrotum? And do you need to buy special pants to keep the powerball from shining through?

  16. Tundra

    Hi Brett!

    Thanks for the lynx! Especially the medication one.

    The more I read and learn, the more I am convinced that nutrition trumps medicating in virtually every common ailment. My younger sister was on a bunch of meds for depression and she was a fucking train wreck. We talked her into getting off them, get physically healthy and dial in her diet. It made an amazing difference.

    Of course, then there’s this:

    “I’m not entirely junior anymore as a researcher, and to be honest, this line of research is really the most worrisome that I’ve ever conducted,” he says. “Especially because I’m well aware of the numbers [of people] involved. When you give somebody a drug, you don’t just give it to a person – you give it to a social system. And we really don’t understand the effects of these medications in the broader context.”

    Uh, no.

    • Ted S.

      I wonder how much the government’s terrible dietary advice (this time on cholesterol) contributes to the problem.

      • Tonio

        Shouldn’t that end with a question mark?

      • Jarflax

        No, grammatically he is stating a fact. That he wonders.

      • Tundra

        A ton. The recommended foods are extremely inflammatory.

        That fucking food pyramid has killed more people than cigs.

    • Fourscore

      Its almost like Oyz is onto something, with the testing and stuff.

    • Mojeaux

      I knew the first thing up would be statins.

      They’re evil.

  17. Rebel Scum

    How Ruth Bader Ginsburg is trying to check the conservative majority

    By refusing to die step down?

    Ginsburg spoke to CNN in a rare interview in her chambers this week. The 86-year-old four-time cancer survivor has resumed an active role in oral arguments and is often the first of the nine justices to pose a question. She regularly asks whether the Supreme Court should even decide the legal issue before it.

    By framing the debate in this way, Ginsburg could limit the five conservative justices from setting new precedent over the dissent of the court’s four liberals.
    Ginsburg’s approach goes back to her time in law school — but her expertise and emphasis offers liberals a path forward when the balance of power on the court is now solidly conservative. Ginsburg has taken up the cause in multiple recent disputes regarding the 2nd Amendment, criminal sentencing and tax law.

    In an interview late Tuesday, Ginsburg talked about the rules for getting through the courthouse doors. She would not discuss specifics of any pending case and sidestepped questions about strategy or the ideological stakes on this divided court.

    She said that procedural concerns can stop judges from intervening prematurely but noted that procedural safeguards can also ensure that worthy litigants are not kept out of the courthouse.

    “It’s just instinctive to me,” she said. “Procedure is supposed to serve the people that law exists to serve.”

    And the law exists to serve leftist/proggie goals I suppose.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      the people that law exists to serve

      You mean everyone?

    • leon

      SCOTUS shouldn’t look at anything as long as there are conservatives in control, they might set precedent that we don’t like. best to wait

    • Ted S.

      She regularly asks whether the Supreme Court should even decide the legal issue before it.

      I assume she treats the absolute 1A and 2A proscriptions of laws against free speech and guns the same way.

    • Mojeaux

      the court is now solidly conservative

      DaFuq?

      With Justice Elections Have Consequences?

    • JaimeRoberto Delecto

      Wait, she gave an interview to CNN? I thought that wasn’t kosher.

      • Jarflax

        Cnn, like all Nazi organizations and people is treif.

  18. "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

    Do you need an additional reason to dislike the French? Well, here’s another reason anyways.

    WARNING: This may sound like Alex Jones wrote this, but this is real.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/world/europe/france-pedophilia-gabriel-matzneff.html

    “A Victim’s Account Fuels a Reckoning Over Abuse of Children in France”

    FTA:

    “Caught now in the crosscurrents of France’s changing attitudes toward sex, Mr. Matzneff is the product and longtime beneficiary of France’s May 68 movement, the social revolution started in 1968 by students and unions against France’s old order.

    With the slogan, “It’s forbidden to forbid,” the movement rebelled against authority and fought against imperialism, capitalism, racism, sexism and homophobia. Some also argued for abolishing age-of-consent laws, saying that doing so would liberate children from the domination of their parents and allow them to be full, sexual beings.

    Mr. Matzneff was one of the leading writers to advocate the legalization of sex with children. In “Les Moins de Seize Ans,” or “Under 16 Years Old,” he writes, “To sleep with a child, it’s a holy experience, a baptismal event, a sacred adventure.” First published in 1974, it was republished in 2005.

    Thinkers on the left, like Michel Foucault, Roland Barthes, Jean-Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir, spoke in defense of the practice, or came to the defense of men accused of engaging in sex with people below the age of consent in France.

    Libération, the newspaper co-founded by Sartre, championed pedophiles as a discriminated minority and ran personal ads by adults seeking children for sex.

    The newspaper ran “revolting” articles about pedophilia into the 1980s, and its staff included activists who fought for the right to engage in “sexual relations with children,” its editor, Laurent Joffrin, acknowledged in an editorial this week, adding that the publication now opposed the practice.

    Tolerance of it was not limited to the left.

    For years, though less aggressive than Libération, Le Monde, the centrist newspaper, published a weekly column by Mr. Matzneff and articles defending those accused of having sex with underage partners, including one in 1977 that was signed by Sartre, de Beauvoir and Barthes. While the right attacked pedophiles, some of its leaders were close to Mr. Matzneff.

    Pierre Verdrager, a sociologist and author of “L’Enfant Interdit,” or “Forbidden Child,” a book on the politics surrounding pedophilia in the 1970s, said that what united its defenders was the belief that France had an “aristocracy” that was not bound to ordinary norms of conduct.”

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      If you go down the rabbit hole on some of the names here, you may start believing in Qanon

    • invisible finger

      ” this is real.”

      LOL. It’s a NYT link.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Well played

    • leon

      With the slogan, “It’s forbidden to forbid,”

      I know contradictions are all the rage, but did they not even stop to think about how this is exactly how something like South Park would make fun of them?

      “At Camp Tolerance we do not tolerate intolerance!”

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        There was no South Park in 1968. The equivalent of Matt Stone and Trey Parker were Charles De Gaulle and Sartre. Neither of which were particularly funny (beyond their appearances).

      • Bobarian LMD

        Buerres, ça, c’est moi!

    • Rhywun

      the movement rebelled against authority and fought against imperialism, capitalism, racism, sexism and homophobia

      Plus ça change…

      I’m guessing – like similar groups today – they were really just fighting capitalism and didn’t give a shit about any of those other things.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        So there is an interesting story about the 1968 protests: the commies and workers shut it down. The protests were primarily led by students who were later joined by their professors who were later joined by some government workers who were later joined by private sector workers. But, the workers quickly started to resent the protesters so they backed out and the commies (who still feigned allegiance with workers at that time) followed suit.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      And now Pizzagate comes closer into focus.

      Of course France (there’s also a Dutch woman who gave a TedTalk about needing to become more mature about pedophelia) would push for this. Doesn’t existentialism pretty much lead to a bankrupted moral relativism?

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      “To bathe in the blood of someone who sleeps with a child, it’s a holy experience, a baptismal event, a sacred adventure.”

      FIFY

    • Gustave Lytton

      Let me know when they deport Polanski in cuffs.

    • Chipwooder

      Those French, they’re so sophisticated, unlike us dumb yokel non-childfucking Americans.

    • Jarflax

      Wasn’t someone here just arguing this very point with a sophisticated European the other day?

  19. Count Potato

    “The catastrophic fires in Australia are the latest example of the very real and very urgent consequences of climate change. It’s on us to stay focused and protect the one planet we’ve got for the next generation:”

    https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1215377738858663937

    Climate change causes arson.

    • leon

      By passing laws that won’t do anything to change it even by our own numbers. But it will totally screw over people in the economy and give even more power to the people proposing the laws.

    • invisible finger

      By borrowing money that we promise the next generation after the next generation will pay for.

  20. Rebel Scum

    Ok, Bloomberg.

    The debate on gun control in Virginia and around the country has focused in particular on assault-style rifles like AR-15s that have been used in mass shootings. Some initial pieces of Virginia legislation filed by Democrats that would outlaw AR-15-style rifles have not included any “grandfather” clauses allowing current owners of the popular rifle to keep them.

    But Northam and other top Democrats in Virginia have said they don’t want to confiscate guns. And Bloomberg said Tuesday such a plan isn’t feasible.

    “It’s probably impossible to get all of those back. One can only hope that when people see the damage they can cause, and the danger of having them in their houses, they’ll decide to just take them to the local police station and say, ‘Please, get rid of this,’” Bloomberg said. …

    “Nobody’s trying to take away anybody’s handguns … or rifles or shotguns,” Bloomberg said. “What we’re trying to do is have sensible gun regulations.”

    • Count Potato

      That doesn’t even make sense. Not that I was expecting it would.

    • Gustave Lytton

      The little runt lies. While hiding behind armed security.

      • Chipwooder

        Every single fucking leftist on fucking earth lies every fucking time they open their fucking mouths. And the gun-grabber variety of leftists lies the most of their ilk.

    • Pope Jimbo

      The cunning runt just came through Minnesoda. While here he pestered some tame farmers and told them how totes awesome they are. Would have been great if any of the journalos in the press junket would have asked him about guns while he was out in the country. Would have been entertaining to see him try to explain to the farmers why they couldn’t be trusted with guns.

      *bonus politician claptrap

      “I come from the city, but you’re the backbone of America,” he told the Johnsons. “We eat and live based on what you do. I think it’s easy for us living in the big cities to not care about the rest of the world. … I think you’ve just got to understand that this country is bigger.”

    • Mad Scientist

      “It’s probably impossible to get all of those back.”

      Oh, so it was Bloomberg who sold them?

  21. The Late P Brooks

    “It’s probably impossible to get all of those back. One can only hope that when people see the damage they can cause, and the danger of having them in their houses, they’ll decide to just take them to the local police station and say, ‘Please, get rid of this,’” Bloomberg said. …

    Give it to me for safekeeping.

    • Fourscore

      They are causing a lot of boating accidents, that’s for sure.

  22. Rufus the Monocled

    The Iranians really need to pay a huge price for this shit. Like Libya. It’s enough with this evil behaviour.

    I don’t know how but they should. Imagine being immoral to the point of shooting airplanes filled with innocent people out of the sky?

    • invisible finger

      They mostly killed Iranians. Might want to encourage them to continue.

      • Count Potato

        It’s the regime, not the people, that is bad.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      The Russians shot down a airliner and nothing happened. The US has shot down airliners before and nothing happened. Hell, the Obama administration droned hospitals like it was nobody’s business and nothing happened.

      Not all bad guys can be made to account for their actions and not all bad actions can be atoned for by a similar response.

      • cyto

        When did we shot down an airliner? I don’t remember that.

      • cyto

        Oh, wait. Yes I do.. Aegis system in the gulf of Arabia. We said they dropped altitude and sped up to bait us into shooting them down.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        We can even just ignore that one and consider all the bridal parties and hospitals that we have droned. Or we could just take the US out of the equation and look at the Saudis who have blown up commercial airliners over Yemen.

        I’m just saying that just because someone does a shitty thing in war, doesn’t mean that you HAVE to respond in kind.

      • tarran

        We said they dropped altitude and sped up to bait us into shooting them down.

        That was one of the bullshit excuses floating around to try to deflect blame from where it solely lay – the officers of the U.S.S. Vincennes.

        The short summary: the vincennes (an Aegis cruiser) was involved in a skirmish with some small Iranian Revolutionary Guard surface ships.

        The airliner took off on schedule and was vectored into the appropriate air traffic corridor by Iranian air traffic control which passed over the site of the skirmish. The airport was a combined civil and military airport. They were monitoring the appropriate frequencies. They were climbing normally about halfway to their cruising altitude when they were hit by a surface to air missile launched by the U.S.S. Vincennes.

        The chain of command fucked up in multiple ways:
        1) The petty officer manning the fire control radar wan’t adequately trained and drilled, and consequently got confused by his readouts, erroneously reporting that the aircraft was descending when it was climbing.
        2) The CIC officer looked over the civilian flight schedule for the airport and missed the entry for the aircraft.
        3) The radio warnings were sent out on the wrong radio frequency and not the one civilian aircraft were guarding.
        4) They identified the airliner as a F-14 on a bombing run (Iranian F-14’s are not capable of dropping bombs, they are A block aircraft barely flying due to the shortage of spare parts).

        The behavior of senior Navy leadership in the wake of the incident was thoroughly dishonorable & despicable.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Technically speaking theres a lot more to the Vincennes incident (including the fact that they were in a literal shooting surface action with the Iranians at the same time and the jetliner wasnt squawking modes and codes properly – among other factors. Still could have been avoided before they turned the key if they had triple checked but that was a first gen system.

      • tarran

        Where do you get that the airliner wasn’t squawking properly?

        The report that I read said the airliner was squawking Mode III 6760, which is what it was supposed to be doing.

        The only source for the claim that it was squawking Mode II are the watch-standers in the CIC of the Vincennes – who in my mind are utterly untrustworthy sources for anything. IIRC the tapes showed it was always squawking Mode III.

        And given that the warnings on the aviation distress frequency (the only frequency with which the Vincennes was capable of communicating with civil aircraft) were addressed to “unknown aircraft” with a different speed and at a different altitude than that the airliner was flying at, it’s quite probable that they heard the warning and thought it was addressed to someone else.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      I guess you’re right that ‘everyone’ does it. Very sad.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      You make it sound like they intended to shoot down a commercial airliner when its much easier to prove incompetence.

      • peachy rex

        Yeah, this screams “dumbass forgot to check the settings before he flipped the power switch.”

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Perhaps, but it wouldn’t be surprising if it was. But I agree it sounds like a fuck up at the moment.

        Still.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Apparently Trump has mastered the art of fighting without fighting. How many Iranians is that, who’ve been killed by their own this week?

  23. LJW

    How to Fix the Internet With a Single Regulation

    “Many brilliant net theorists and policymakers are already offering various ways of mitigating the internet’s amplification of disinformation, extremism, and hate. Twitter’s refusal to run political ads, though a bit vague to operationalize, is a nice start. So, too, are Facebook’s efforts to manually and algorithmically check posts for the most egregious content, such as livestreamed massacres and beheadings. Fewer beheadings on social media is a good thing. But it doesn’t solve the underlying problem.
    The more structural and effective solution is to make customized news illegal. Platforms cannot deliver information based on who they think we are. They have to deliver the same news about the world to all of us. If we really want certain kinds of stories filtered or emphasized, we should be doing this ourselves — the same way we pick which cable channel to watch or which newspaper articles to read. Imagine a dashboard, like the system preferences on a computer. Except instead of letting us choose which apps can send us notifications and banners, the control panel lets us choose which news services can send us headlines or which subjects we want emphasized in our feeds.”

    First of all no. Second it’s actually the opposite problem of what is described in this story. I have to sift through mountains of left wing garbage on any search I perform before I can find something unbiased.

    • J. Frank Parnell

      Anyone want to try translating this comment into English?

      Or…we could get rid of the income tax code that allows corporations to get paid to brainwash and track people by letting them deduct all of those expenses from money that shouldn’t have been collected in the first place through deceptive externalized pricing structures.

      Sales taxes are less regressive than gentrification of a dying planet.

      • JD is Unemployed

        Well, no, but I can tell you that trying to read it did more to scramble my neurons than drinking a half gallon of lighter fluid and taking an elevator ride with Ray Rice.

    • Rhywun

      the control panel lets us choose which news services can send us headlines or which subjects we want emphasized in our feeds

      WTF? This already exists. If you’re too stupid to choose your own news, that’s on you.

      But beyond that, it’s yet another solution to a problem that does not exist. Nobody needs more than “one news”? Yeah, go fuck yourself.

      • Ted S.

        Because government-funded media concentration isn’t biased at all.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Sure, some doofus developer could easily build some app based on rss and you could get only the news that totes confirmed each and every one of your pet notions, but that is only half the problem.

        The real problem is that the dumb deplorables can use that same app to only get news from InfoWars and Fox News. That is just wrong and needs to be stopped.

        So to be eligible for being listed in the mandatory govt control panel, you would need an official Federal Media ID. And since freedom of the press is so important, it would take at least a cabinet level department to publish guidelines and enforce regulations on who gets those ID’s.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        So to be eligible for being listed in the mandatory govt control panel, you would need an official Federal Media ID. And since freedom of the press is so important, it would take at least a cabinet level department to publish guidelines and enforce regulations on who gets those ID’s.

        However, in the interest of fairness, the department will allow left wing sources like Mother Jones as well as right wing sources like the New York Times.

      • JD is Unemployed

        [sadly laughter]

  24. The Late P Brooks

    Truth in advertising

    Facebook says it will continue to allow political ads that target the social media platform’s users, sticking to its position despite concerns about the potential impact on the upcoming presidential election. Federal Election Commissioner Ellen Weintraub sharply criticized the policy, saying Facebook’s “weak plan suggests the company has no idea how seriously it is hurting democracy.”

    Facebook’s policy falls short of measures recently taken by other tech giants. Google says it will limit the ability of political ads to target an audience, and Twitter has banned political ads entirely.

    Taking aim at Facebook’s policy in a series of tweets Thursday morning, Weintraub, a Democrat, said, “I am not willing to bet the 2020 elections on the proposition that Facebook has solved its problems with a solution whose chief feature appears to be that it doesn’t seriously impact the company’s profit margins.”

    ——-

    Facebook says it shouldn’t be in the business of fact-checking, that the U.S. needs new laws to govern political speech on social media — and to a degree, the American Civil Liberties Union agrees.

    “This will not be a popular view. But on the whole, we think that Facebook got this right,” says Ben Wizner, director of the ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project.

    Describing the gray area that political ads often occupy, Wizner added, “I don’t think Facebook is capable of doing effective fact-checking, and I don’t think as a society we should want Facebook to be the entity that’s making those kinds of distinctions.”

    I can’t wait for the fact-checks on Liz and Bernie’s claimed economic outcomes for their programs.

    Or is that not what fact checking means?

  25. The Late P Brooks

    The more structural and effective solution is to make customized news illegal.

    Right. Because id I want to know what idiotic thing the governor of California did yesterday in the name of “funding homelessness” I should have to wade through a bunch of moronic ree-ing about the Kardashians and Meeeeegan Markle, and maybe a few recipes for seasonal artisanal olive scones.

    Good plan.

    • Count Potato

      Not at all suspicious.

      • DOOMco

        totally normal behavior from a secure facility.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      At this point, I feel like you sound crazy if you say he committed suicide

    • Bobarian LMD

      Oozing sex appeal.

    • Spudalicious

      Someone get that chick a salad.

      • Mad Scientist

        To make the rest of us happy, she needs a mumu.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Talk about being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

      How horrific.

      • Not Adahn

        Wouldn’t they know if the US had launched bombers? Surely the Russians would have notified them if they lacked the capability themselves? Were they just turning on the radar and shooting at anything that pinged? And do passenger jets and bombers fly at the same speed?

      • tarran

        I doubt the Iranian air defense command and control system can disseminate information that efficiently to all its units.

        Also centralized systems can make mistakes too.

    • tarran

      OK. Here’s my take on the whole thing, based on the latest postings on pprune.com

      1) The track of the air corridor travels directly over a IRCG weapons development/testing facility.
      2) The aircraft was delayed for an hour (in part because some passengers with baggage in the hold hadn’t boarded and the ground crew offloaded their bags (this is an anti-bombing measure))
      3) The TOR-1 missile is a short range command guided missile that is capable of shooting down not only aircraft but cruise missiles and air to ground missiles used by the U.S. It is controlled by a ground station using radar to track the target.

      After the attack on U.S. facilities, I expect that all the air defense units in the Iranian military were at general quarters. The IRCG was especially worried; they would be specially targeted by the U.S. (and deservedly so, the assholes). I also am certain that local commanders were given authority to fire their weapons in the event that there was a U.S. attack.

      I think there was a communications break-down: the guys sitting in the air defense station were no longer guarding the air traffic control frequency. Maybe their radios broke. Maybe they were told the last flight was scheduled to leave at 6:30 and had turned off the radios. On pprune, there is some speculation that perhaps the airliner had a series of compressor stalls (at night they look very spectacular, and can look bubbles of fire bursting off the airplane), and the defenders on the ground thought it was an attack in progress.

      For whatever reason, the guys in charge of air defense for the facility decided to engage the target believing it to be an inbound air-craft or cruise missile. They did not check with air traffic control prior to opening fire.

      And, of course, the airliner had no chance, flying in essentially straight line with no stealth features whatsoever.

      If I am correct, it will be kind of ironic given how much the Iranians have been waving the flag of their victimhood at the hands of the USS Vincennes, that they just pretty much repeated the same mistake.

      • grrizzly

        But the flight departed in the morning. What kind of airport is Tehran that it doesn’t have numerous departures between 6 am and 7 am? The airport wiki page shows a long list of airlines and destinations.

      • tarran

        I don’t know….

        Obviously, the Iranians didn’t want to shoot down a civilian airliner. In the Detect-to-Engage sequence for air contacts, a critical step is the Identify step. Clearly something went terribly wrong. It appears that the previous few aircraft to take off were following the same departure route and flew unmolested over the IRCG complex.

      • JD is Unemployed

        Uuuurrrggh that tickled my OCD something silly when you repeatedly typed “IRCG” instead of IRGC

        Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

        Wacky tangent: I think the compressor stalls theory is a bit unlikely, and just some internet TOP MEN showing off their aviayshun knowlidje like some guy deliberately talking loudly enough so everyone in the bar can hear his amazing opinions and brilliant deductions.

        This is me posting loudly enough so everyone on glibs can hear me talk about how much I don’t like those self-important jagweeds who broadcast themselves obnoxiously loud in public places.

      • tarran

        Holy crap! I actually mouthed out the name of those assholes to make sure I didn’t dyslexia the the crap out of the acronym.

        I’m pathetic. (-‸ლ) <- experimental facepalm attempt

      • tarran

        Dammit! :facepalm:

      • tarran

        Experiment concluded unsatisfactorily 😳

      • Rhywun

        ?‍♂️

      • JD is Unemployed

        I quite like the experimental one?

  26. Rebel Scum

    She’s got my support.

    So in fact, they’re not. And that’s the irony of all this, the blustering regime rhetoric against America. The Iranians are natural allies of the Americans. This is a sophisticated, educated population. They look to the West; they see all the youth, the same education. Even sometimes not as educated as the Iranian counterparts and they have the lifestyle; they can afford an apartment; they can get married, they can move on. The Iranian counterparts are basically repressed; they don’t have an outlet for their dissenting voice; they don’t have a hope for the future.

    And it stands in stark contrast to Obama where he waited 11 days, 11 crucial days before he offered support in 2009 uprising to the Iranian people. I was telling you before in the podcast that we did beforehand, that the chants on the street of Iran, out of the 31 provinces, 29 of them erupted in protests. They are not death to America. They are holding the regime accountable for their misery. They’re saying, not Syria, not Lebanon, my life is only for Iran. So they know that the regime elite is cracking down on them. They know that this is not the regime that they bargained for in the revolution. And they want, as Lara said very aptly, they want the regime to be held accountable.

    I think you would not have a hard time convincing the current president, darling. ///would

    • Pope Jimbo

      Yeah right. You are such a poseur. Why don’t you tell us all about your Canadian girlfriend now?

      Tundra’s “sports car” (of course it includes a manure spreader). Leap and I have covered up for you for far too long Tundra. Just admit that you are a hillwilliam and be done with it.

      Details on how Tundra built it.

      • Tundra

        Now that’s sexy!

        And practical, too!

      • Tundra

        Love this:

        The open-air, David Bradley manure spreader box sits on a 1993 Chevrolet S-10 chassis with a V-8 engine that can easily cruise at 65 miles an hour. The hard-to-label roadster was licensed in May as a “homemade” vehicle by the state Vehicle Services Division. It passed a 23-point checklist of the Minnesota Street Rod Association and is certified as road-worthy, said inspector Jimmy Michels, association safety director. The spreader has good brakes, lights, seat belts and a wiper on the safety glass windshield, he noted.

        “That is a one-of-a-kind,” Michels said. “He’s in a category all his own.”

        It makes me happy that there are crazy fuckers like this in the world.

      • Fourscore

        But he destroyed a perfectly good manure spreader that was destined for re-purposing in DC.

    • Tonio

      Sexy af.

    • Mad Scientist

      Would

    • DOOMco

      mmmmmm

  27. Gustave Lytton

    Austrian and Lufthansa turned their Tehran planes around mid flight. It’s pretty bad when airlines are overflying Iraq just inside the border to avoid Iranian airspace.

  28. Pope Jimbo

    Uffda. What has happened to the journalistic profession?

    Any headline writer worth his salt would have written

    Manhattan: Old Fashioned Bar Brawl

    • Not Adahn

      *NY Post makes Pope Jimbo an offer*

  29. The Late P Brooks

    Stealing from the government

    The Trump administration did sign a modest increase in the IRS’s budget into law for this year. But the consequences of putting the IRS on a starvation diet are already here. Every single year, the federal government fails to collect an enormous amount of revenue that Americans legally owe. This vast budget hole is known as the tax gap; according to the IRS’s most recent estimates, which are sadly a bit out of date, it amounted to $381 billion annually between 2011 and 2013. In a paper last year, former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers and University of Pennsylvania law professor Natasha Sarin estimated that $630 billion would slip through the government’s fingers this year. But I suspect their ballpark figure might even be too low; they arrived at it by taking the old IRS estimate, and adjusting it for income growth and inflation. Given how the IRS has been decimated, it seems reasonable to suspect that the rate of tax avoidance is higher now than it was at the start of the previous decade.

    “Hey, Rocky! Look! Nuthin up muh sleeve.”

    “Every single year, the federal government fails to collect an enormous amount of revenue that Americans legally owe.” it seems reasonable to suspect that the rate of tax avoidance is higher now than it was

    Tax avoidance- the pursuit of legal means by which to conform to the letter of the law while minimizing one’s tax burden. Plainly the same thing as refusing to pay anything at all.

    • Rhywun

      starvation diet

      Sure, Jan.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Excellent. I can fix this. DHS has a proposed budget this year of $92 Billion. We are almost a third of the way to plugging that hole.

      What else is there?

    • creech

      How the f*** did the IRS collect a greater percentage of what was due back in the day before computers? Did they do 100% audits (which wouldn’t even get 100% compliance)?
      One would think that with computers matching W-2s and 1099s (which is where the vast bulk of personal income is reported) they wouldn’t be leaving so much taxes on the table.
      I’m not complaining about the sheer incompetence of the IRS (if your call is answered you’ll probably get four difference answers about how to treat some revenue issue). Articles like this are pure “raise my budget or my department will collapse” crap.

  30. Count Potato

    OK, So if I activate the phone number I have with my cable company, will that screw up my POTS? I want to see if the phone wiring I have works with the modem. The phone comes in from the street on the bottom floor (that’s where the “network interface” is), but my modem and router are on the top floor. Even though phone lines are wired in parallel there could be impedance problems. So I want to test it out first.

    • Unreconstructed

      Don’t connect the modem and the phone lines at the same time. POTS lines carry voltage that your modem isn’t set to deal with. In fact, if you’re using the existing phone wiring, you should disconnect it from the “Network Interface” to avoid getting that voltage incoming.

      • Gustave Lytton

        It’s the same nominal -48V at 20ma or less. It shouldn’t cause any permanent damage, but for testing, or for use, shouldn’t plug in both at the same time.

      • Count Potato

        I was going to disconnect it first.

        I’m concerned that both companies having the same number active is going to cause some sort of conflict or computer glitch.

      • Gustave Lytton

        That’s different than just testing two different (essentially) telephone lines. To reuse the number, the cable company will submit a request to port your existing number on a mutually agreed due date. On the due date your existing service will be turned off and your new service will be turned on. Termination fees may apply if you’re on a contract.

      • Gustave Lytton

        And even though your telephone company receives a request to port your number, you may still need to call in and cancel existing service after it’s ported. I don’t work in the customer care side and I don’t trust them to do the right thing.

      • Count Potato

        So I can’t have them both on at the same time?

        The cable company made it sound as though putting in my number (through their website) was automatic.

      • Gustave Lytton

        It’s automated, but to reuse your existing number, they need to port it from the current carrier.

      • Count Potato

        OK, they made it sound like it was instantaneous.

      • Gustave Lytton

        And maybe it has improved. Interested to hear how it goes.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Just unplug your line at the SNI downstairs.

      Guarantee that there won’t be an impedance mismatch. The cable modems are designed to backfeed analog telephone onto station wiring. Or another way, just plug a telephone set into your modem.

      • Count Potato

        I just want to make sure all the phone in the house work, before I cancel my POTS service.

  31. Rebel Scum

    Sounds like some abuse of power.

    During a press conference on Thursday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) stated that she won’t hold the impeachment articles from the Senate “indefinitely” and will send the articles when she is “ready. And that will probably be soon.”

    Pelosi said, “I’m not holding them indefinitely. I’ll send them over when I’m ready. And that will probably be soon. … We want to see what they’re willing to do, and the manner in which they will do it.”

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      We want to see what they’re willing to do, and the manner in which they will do it.” to rig the process in favor of removal.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    Sales taxes are less regressive than gentrification of a dying planet.

    My hovercraft is full of eels.

    • JD is Unemployed

      Hearty ALOL

    • Ted S.

      No I don’t.

      • LJW

        “You don’t know it, but you want it…”

        What is things said in a prison shower?

      • Bobarian LMD

        And that was Ted’S response in the shower, as well.

    • JD is Unemployed

      I already know I want it, but thanks, now I still want it. Can I have it? Yes!

      • Spudalicious

        I couldn’t drink this very often, but damn.

    • R C Dean

      I’d def give that a go.

  33. Rebel Scum

    David Frum: Mendacious Cunte

    “If your president is not able to lead the country, you don’t go to war. Donald Trump has never even aspired to be President of the United States,” Frum said on the program. “He’s president of a little less than half the United States and that’s the only job he’s ever wanted. He regards the majority of the country as his enemies. How can you lead a united nation to war?” …

    “As President Bush pushed toward war with Iraq in 2003, he had legal authority from Congress, he had an international coalition, he had popular support, and the operation and a clear war plan, and the war still failed,” Frum said. “Now, none of those conditions are present. There is no authorization from Congress, there is no public support, there is no international coalition, and there’s no clear war plan. The United States has embarked on is an escalator of retaliation with no vision of where to go.”

    • cyto

      yeah, I agree with your descriptor.

      I note he picked Bush as his example and not Obama. Dude did the whole “regime change” thing without so much as a by-your-leave.

      And strange that Obama was not president of only half of the US. His 2012 numbers were not that different from Trump’s 2016 numbers.

      • JD is Unemployed

        Yep. Try putting those points directly to Frum. Oh wait, you can’t because he sits sequestered in an impenetrable bubble of his own farts and noxious hypocrisies.

    • Bobarian LMD

      the war still failed

      False.

      We whipped the dogshit out of Iraq in 3 days. The aftermath of the Nation Building that douches like Frum masturbated over was where we failed.

      Unachievable goals with no set objectives often work out that way.

      • Mojeaux

        Foreseeable consequences are foreseeable.

        War’s just a money-printing machine.

      • Count Potato

        War h’uh

        Yeah!

        What is it good for?

        Quantitative easement

        Say it again, y’all

    • JaimeRoberto Delecto

      “He’s president of a little less than half the United States.” If Hillary had won, the same statement would be true since she didn’t get a majority, but I doubt Frum would have mentioned that.

    • Not Adahn

      he had popular support

      Popular support? From which country?

  34. cyto

    Ok, back to the media – deep state – CIA nexus.

    I just read an article that said US intelligence has satellite intercepts of targeting radar coming on, then two infrared plumes of missiles being fired, then a third IR plume of the aircraft exploding.

    So, here’s the question (aside from the obvious Iran shooting plane down implications)…. What the heck is up with our intel people? Was this an “approved leak” that we want out there, or is some low level (or high level?) official trying to show off for the press? Or is this just MSU?

    In any event, that seems like the kind of thing that shouldn’t be leaked haphazardly like that.

    Kinda like when they went around bragging that they found Al Quaeda by using cell phone signals and rock formations in videos. Suddenly, those things went away. Don’t know that we really needed to be bragging about methods on this one just yet.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      This sounds like an “approved” leak to me.

      • cyto

        Here’s the story

        UPDATED 1:22 PM
        U.S. officials confident Iran shot down passenger jet
        U.S. officials are confident Iran shot down a Ukrainian jetliner in the hours after the Iranian missile attack on U.S. targets earlier this week, CBS News has learned.

        U.S. intelligence picked up signals of the radar being turned on and satellite detected infrared blips of two missile launches, probably SA-15s, followed shortly by another infrared blip of an explosion.

        The current thinking is the plane, Ukraine International Flight 752, was mistakenly targeted, CBS News’ Kris Van Cleave reports.

        President Trump said Thursday it could have been a mistake.

        Federal officials were briefed on this intelligence Thursday morning. A source who was in the briefing said it appears missile components were found near the crash site, Van Cleave reports.

        The plane crashed in Iran Wednesday, killing all 176 people on board.

        From CBS. They keep bumping it down the page though.

        https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-commander-vows-harsher-revenge-against-us-relief-in-tehran-today-after-trump-speech-2020-01-09/#post-update-ca108587

      • Gustave Lytton

        The Ukrainian flight was delayed departing an hour. One line of thinking is the air defense commander didn’t have access to real time arrivals and departures and assumed it was an unknown and unscheduled aircraft aka US attack.

      • grrizzly

        But flights are delayed all the time all over the world. Somehow commercial jetliners are shot by mistake by the air defense from time to time.

      • grrizzly

        Here’s a list.

    • Urthona

      I dunno. I’m pretty hopeful that the CIA struggles to keep anything secret.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      I don’t know, I have a hard time accepting any narrative peddled by the intelligence community. Iran is an asshole and I think they probably shot down that airliner by accident, but I’m not convinced that the intelligence community isn’t (as always) working in its own interest here.

      • Rhywun

        “Iran is asshole!”

      • Count Potato

        Glibs should chip in and send that guy a muffin basket.

      • Tundra

        I just hope he’s still alive.

      • Count Potato

        That too.

  35. Rebel Scum

    I wanted to like you, Dan. Oh, well.

    What we get out of it is not another 9/11, every single day — and you’re right, it is under water as far as public opinion goes, and there’s a lot of people who hold the opinion that you have. The president himself is very skeptical of it. And I think the reason behind that is because there’s been a lot of leaders who have been constantly saying that we’re going to win, and we’ve got to win, win, win.

    And then everybody’s like, ‘Okay, but what does winning look like?’ And we’ve never been honest about what winning looks like. I’m very honest about what winning looks like. Winning means preventing [a terrorist attack]. It’s preventing the ability of these people, who wake up every single day and want to kill us — and yes, we do go there so that they don’t come here, and I know you think that’s the dumbest thing you’ve ever heard, and I’ve heard you say that — but it’s not.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      Fuck Dan Crenshaw.

      That asshole supports red flag laws and was super duper worried about removing troops from Syria.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        He’s a pretty standard neocon law and order guy. Maybe more personable than most but not worth listening to on just about anything.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Yes. He’s John McCain, except from Texas and will allow drug federalism.

      • Urthona

        Eh, he’s not my cup of tea but he ain’t as bad as John McCain.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        But…. he’s the dreamy eyepatch guy that does axe throwing on the side!

    • DOOMco

      I enjoy the trolling he still gets on the redflag laws.

    • Spudalicious

      30.

    • Chipwooder

      dammit….well, it still works

      • Q Continuum

        “The arc of the moral universe”?!??!?

        BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • Chipwooder

        Enlarge it. It gets more surreal and bizarre.

      • Rhywun

        “THE PROGRESSIVE CAPITAL”

        *swoon*

        *where muh population fleeing to?*

    • JaimeRoberto Delecto

      Needs more unicorns.

    • Chipwooder

      Progs gonna prog.

    • LJW

      For argument sake let’s say the bill passed. Could that be considered a violation of the 1st amendment?

      • Count Potato

        Yes, but laws saying people under 21 can’t have guns aren’t considered a violation of the 2nd…

      • Not Adahn

        How would it be? You can block minor’s access to all sorts of media legally.

      • Count Potato

        Not media, just content.

      • Not Adahn

        I’m still not seeing how restricting possession of a particular physical object is a 1A violation.

      • Count Potato

        Freedom of the press requires a press.

      • Not Adahn

        Just because an object has an expressive use doesn’t make it protected. Age restrictions on spray paint cans have been upheld.

      • Count Potato

        Well, then I don’t think you believe in the 1A.

      • leon

        It’s a 9th Amendment violation

      • leon

        Oof for Fed Government

    • DOOMco

      oh, home.

    • Rhywun

      But even Rodgers said he may not vote for the legislation, adding that he just wanted to make a point.

      “You’re fired.”

      /every sane voter

      Christ, what an asshole.

    • Brett L

      As I understand, reading further, this is from the original attempt his cellmate “stopped”. Not the isolation cell he actually succeeded in. Still…

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        You’re correct, my bad.

    • Bobarian LMD

      It had to disappear. You know what happens to people who watch it, right?

      • Count Potato

        I love that movie. The original is good too.

    • Q Continuum

      “accidentally”

      There sure are a lot of “accidents” and “coincidences” when someone close to the Clintons might have dirt on them.

    • gbob

      Three years ago, if someone posted that there was a pedophile ring amongst democrats, that the FBI was spying on presidential candidates, and that bribery was common for the children of pols, I would have scoffed a bit. Now I feel like I’m living in an Alex Jones world.

      Fucking clown world. magnets. How do they work? Don’t ask a scientist. They be lyin’.

      • AlmightyJB

        Interesting no one seems to be talking about Krugnut’s kiddie porn problem as well.

      • Rebel Scum

        “Mr. Krugman, we found child pornography on your computer.”

        “Uh…I was hacked!”

      • Rhywun

        Just think, it’s probably a lot worse than any of us suspect.

      • Count Potato

        I just assume there pedophile rings run by the rich and powerful. The rich and powerful exist. Pedophiles exist. So why wouldn’t there be any overlap?

      • Jarflax

        I have a suspicion that any extreme or transgressive behavior is likely to be found disproportionately at the ends of the economic bell curve, for a variety of reasons involving the reduced impact of consequences.

  36. Evan from Evansville

    Flying from Chiang Mai to Chicago. Waiting in Seoul right now Up next is Detroit. Then Chicago. My mom made me change flights cuz she’s all freaked out about the Gulf of Oman and planes being shot down.

    I did the (painful) but moral thing of letting her have her way. Guh, it was hard to hear. Looks like the US for 5-6 weeks and then back to Korea where I can make make money again and hopefully fully, fully recover and get back to the life I’ve known since I graduated university.

    Here we go. Sucks I can’t drink anymore. Normally I’d be loaded right now. Gut god damn do I have a lot of pills to play with.

    • Tundra

      Safe travels. Enjoy your time at home.

    • Bobarian LMD

      How’s the recovery going? Everything on track?

    • straffinrun

      Safe travels. You’re mom is more worried about the gulf of Oman than Detroit. Bless your mom’s heart.

      • Tundra

        It’s what moms do. Freak out about vaping and school shootings and give zero thought to their kids riding in and driving rolling death machines.

      • straffinrun

        Make sure your underwear is clean before getting in that death machine.

      • Fourscore

        I’m worried about Evan in Chicago, he’s been away a long time and may have lost track of the daily statistics.

        Good to have you back, Evan, enjoy your family time and get well (er).

    • Count Potato

      Safe travels, and get well soon!

    • Not Adahn

      You bringing the little lady home to meet the folks?

  37. gbob

    Happy mail day. Just got a copy of Bobbie Gentry’s “Ode to Billy Joe” LP and Oscar Brown “Sin and Soul” (The later has recommendation quotes on the front from Steve Allen and Nat Hentoff (?!))

    Bid ‘Em In is so damn haunting. Reminds me of Nina Simone and Strange Fruit.

    • The Hyperbole

      Cool, not familiar with “Sin and Soul” but a few songs in and it’s going into rotation at casa Hyperbole.

      • gbob

        Highly recommend his song Mr. Kicks.

        Interesting cat. Ran for congress when he was 26….as a Republican. Pretty red, but that was tied into the civil rights movement. Great poet, and amazing musician.

      • The Hyperbole

        I’m digging the whole album, He’s one of those guys who I’ve heard of but never really got around to listening to.

    • Rhywun

      with the resulting revenue split evenly between the SUNY and CUNY college systems

      LOL bullshit.

      “We must increase every tax to the maximum found anywhere.”

      /shorter NY legislator

    • straffinrun

      A new bill from Manhattan Assemblyman Harvey Epstein

      Co sponsored by assemblyman Adolph Stalin.

  38. Rebel Scum

    Does anyone have an opinion on CZ clones for someone who wants a CZ but is on a budget? I’m asking for a friend.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      How much more affordable do you need if you can’t afford a real CZ?

      • mexican sharpshooter

        your friend*

      • Not Adahn

        Yeah, and the polymer framed ones are even less

        I know that Tangfolio and EAA made some well-regarded clones.

      • Not Adahn

        Israeli surplus CZ clones, $319.

      • Sean

        Real CZ for $440

      • Tundra

        Man, I like those.

      • Not Adahn

        If I go to IWB carry, I’ll pick up the PCR without question.

      • AlmightyJB

        I like the PCR version as well.

      • AlmightyJB

        That Berretta 81 is sweet too. Not a a .32 acp fan but love the look.

    • AlmightyJB

      I don’t own one, but the IWI Jericho looks to be pretty solid. I have an IWI Uzi .45 and it’s very well made.

      • Spudalicious

        I just bought a surplus IMI 9mm. That is one solid chunk of steel.

      • Not Adahn

        And it was a CZ clone too.

    • Gustave Lytton

      If your friend is looking for cheap firearms, try a local waterway. Seems to be an upsurge of firearms involved boating accidents these days.

  39. Tundra

    I’m not gonna stomp on Rebel’s question, but I’m curious if any of you freaks has a carry gun with a red dot. A lot of the new pistols are optics-ready and after using a red dot on a rifle, I’m sold.

    Eyes aren’t what they were, y’know.

    • Rebel Scum

      I also – I mean my friend also needs an optic for a nondescript rifle. Something for short to medium range. Any suggestions are appreciated.

      • Tundra

        Well, my friend has a SIG Romeo5 that is inexpensive and seems to work well.

      • Not Adahn

        ^This.

        Having said that, I can’t pick up the red dot immediately.

      • Rebel Scum

        Looks like PSA has it on sale!

      • Sean

        Burris fastfire 2 or 3, Primary Arms, or Vortex red dots are all solid and reasonably priced.

    • LCDR_Fish

      Dunno…but once i pick up my xd-e next week, I want to look at an underbarrel laser as a carry option – need to muck with a good holster too – while it’s about 40 more days till my cch comes in.

    • Count Potato

      Do Crimson Trace grips count?

      • Tundra

        Sure.

        I can put a laser on my current gun. I am just curious about others’ experiences.

      • Count Potato

        Most shit happens in the dark, muzzle flash can effect your eyes, and many night sights don’t work if the only light is in front of you.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I have a Bodyguard 380 and I’ve been thinking about replacing it with a M&P version without the laser or the safety.

      • Tundra

        Why no laser?

      • Gustave Lytton

        It’s almost as much of a pain to turn on with the button by the end of the barrel as manipulating the safety. I don’t think it really needs it and save a little weight and space.

      • AlmightyJB

        The only time a laser might come in handy is if your body is in a position where you can’t aquire the sight which is probably pretty rare.

      • kinnath

        See my post below.

        A laser is awesome if you can’t see you sights because you don’t have glasses on.

      • Count Potato

        I don’t know where you live, but around here it gets dark at night.

    • Sean

      I do not and do not have any plans currently to change that.

      • Not Adahn

        It has improved my slow fire targets during bullseye. But only my slow fire targets.

        For anything I’m shooting at speed, I use irons.

    • Spudalicious

      My feelings are that a righteous self defense shoot will happen at a close enough range that a red dot isn’t necessary. But everyone has their own opinion.

      • Tundra

        Makes sense. Mine only has a 3.1″ barrel, so I’m also looking at moving to a 4″. I do like to take longer shots for fun.

      • Spudalicious

        I can understand that. But I shoot up to 15 yards without a dot.

    • kinnath

      I have a green laser on both of my carry pistols.

      The gun does not need to be perfectly positioned before you can shoot. You get it up in front of you and stable, then put the green dot in the center of mass. First shot and follow up shots are much faster.

      I am far sighted. Without my specs on, I cannot see the sights on my pistol at arms length. Thus, I cannot aim without glasses. But 20 feet out, that green dot is really sharp. So I do not need to have my glasses on to shoot accurately (see Paul Harrell’s video on the Miami-Dade shooting).

      I have Crimson Trace on my Springfield EMP.

      I have this laser on my Sig p938. Easy to install, easy to set the sites. You put your hand on the pistol and make skin contact across two copper contacts then the laser comes on. I love this thing.

      • Spudalicious

        What caliber is your EMP? I have one in .40 and it’s probably my favorite pistol.

      • kinnath

        9 mm.

        All my pistols are 9 mm.

    • Count Potato

      Kinky or creepy?

      • straffinrun

        It’s be creepy if it were younger sister.

    • Spudalicious

      Can’t answer the question without a picture.

    • Jarflax

      What does any of that mean? I understand the prices, and the surcharge, but what is a Set what is a T.O.C.? And what does Sister Luna look like?

      • straffinrun

        I dunno. I did a dine and dash.

      • Gustave Lytton

        How was the bearded clam?

      • straffinrun

        Meh. I recommend the hairy crab.

      • Gustave Lytton

        *insert strategically pixelated queasy
        emoji*

    • Jarflax

      Better, less obscene, Chess Set

      NSFW

      • AlmightyJB

        Much better

  40. grrizzly

    Robby: If Iran Shot Down the Ukraine Jet, the U.S. Government Deserves a Little Blame

    • Rhywun

      “I learned it from YOU, Dad. I learned it from watching YOU!”

      • Mojeaux

        Legit LOL

      • Tres Cool

        “The car broken down…clearly a tire was flat. Robby, not sure on how to weild hand-tools, phoned his fiancee for advice. Over the cacaphony of their teacup dog in the back ground she said, “Just relax. I called AAA. You have The Jacket next to you, so you’re not alone.”
        Robby whined….”but we’re going to be laaaaaaaate” like a spoiled teen. She said, “the cocktails will still be cold. They’ll save you. Just stick wit The Jacket.”

        “The Jacket”, Robby thought. In such close proximity he could rub against it. Maybe through osmosis its power would transger.
        Its odor was strange- a peculiar mixture of ash branches, cottage cheese, perspiration, and self-loathing. Never the less, it was beguiling, seductive, and its siren song was in Robby’s head, calling to him.

        “Nick?” Robby said weakly, a sudden lump in his dry mouth that corresponded with the soft-on in his made-to-spec Tommy John compression briefs.

        “Maybe we should step outside and wait for the tow-thingy?”

        They stepped out into the dusk. Robby, seeing his chance, bent over saying “the round thing broke again! No doubt due to the unfair tarriffs!” While signaling with his bum in the air like a Howler Monkey in estrus.

        The Jacket, catching the odor of oestrogen, moved in….

        (Ill leave the rest to SF)

    • Gustave Lytton

      Yeah, Iran was just defending itself after launching middles at a sovereign country.

      Just when Fruit Sushi seems to be improving.

    • Hyperion

      I know one thing. I will stay as far away from Ukranian airlines and flying over it as I possibly can.

      • Drake

        Flying Ukrainian airline out of Iran while they are doing crazy shit because they’re favorite terrorist exploded… I’d rather walk.

    • kinnath

      Someone asks why we give Robby shit. Well, this is why Robby is a little shit weasel.

    • AlmightyJB

      I knew that was coming

      • Drake

        To be sure…

    • Tres Cool

      Wanna know where I stopped reading?

      “A smart foreign policy includes the consideration of unintended consequences.”

      /offs

  41. Count Potato

    “Warner Bros has signed a deal for a AI-driven film management system which will help decision-making for greenlighting certain films. The AI system can assess an actor’s value in any territory and how much a film is expected to earn in theaters.”

    https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1215007789547999235

    Art.

    • Not Adahn

      If the AI doesn’t recommend more nudity, we know someone is interfering with its profit-maximizing algorithm.

    • commodious spittoon

      They pull the plug when the AI correctly predicts that black actors aren’t very popular in China.

      • Pan Zagloba

        Meh, Black Panther made $105,062,459 in China, for all the “CHINA AUDIENCE NO WATCH BLACK PANTHER” shit that took over media (and alt-media) on release.

        Aladdin did $50M.

        After Earth (that Shamaylan SF movie with Will Smith, I forgot the name too), in 2013, did $34,480,000, when it did ~$60M in the States.

        Gemini Goddamn Man which was in theatres and I forgot it existed, made $48,546,770 in US and $33,373,622 in China.

        Give Chinese audiences a likeable actor or a known franchise and they don’t mind The Black.

        Showing once again a genius of DC Cinematic Universe, which had both in Suicide Squad and…failed to get it into China.

    • Hyperion

      But how woke is the AI?

    • Drake

      I assume it red-lights anything not based on a comic book or 80s movie.

    • Tundra

      Perfect.

      10/10

    • AlmightyJB

      Lol

    • Tres Cool

      Dude. My heart just broke for him, England, and……

    • Mojeaux

      Moko Ono

    • Spudalicious

      I have an XDM in .40 with a 16 round mag. It’s my hiking gun.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        So you’re happy with it it sounds like. I may order this weekend, I could always use another 40. All the Springfield stuff is super cheap over there, they must have fallen on hard times.

      • Sean

        Made in Croatia.

        Solid gear, but no style.

      • Spudalicious

        ^^This^^

        It’s a reliable firearm, but I’m okay with it getting beat up.

    • kinnath

      When I was renting lots of guns to decide what I liked, the XD was my favorite striker-fired pistol. But I went down the 1911 path.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I like the idea of a grip safety.

      • kinnath

        One of the things I liked about the pistol

    • Tundra

      Lol!

    • AlmightyJB

      Nice:) She needs to run for office!

  42. Private Chipperbot

    What tv show it movie had a character that was always taking his temperature with an old style thermometer? TIA.

  43. Tundra

    Thanks, everyone.

    Now I have no fucking idea what to do!

    • kinnath

      Glad to be of service

    • AlmightyJB

      Buy all the guns. Lose them all in a boating accident.

    • AlmightyJB

      I plan on my next pistol either having a red dot or at least having the slide cut for one.