Saturday night links of pondering

by | Feb 15, 2020 | Daily Links | 524 comments

Questions for the ages.

 

There’s been a lot of nasty crap going on with some of the Glibs recently, which made me start to think. Take the following statement:

“I would do anything to change “x”.”

Would you? No negative consequences, obviously. But what if changing “x”, meant that some other poor schlub had to suddenly play the cards that you were dealt? Same answer? Or something different? Would it make a difference if said schlub was somebody you knew, or someone you’ll never know, or run into? For me, it makes a huge difference. In a vacuum, I would absolutely take the deal. If I knew that somebody else, known or not, would have to take on my burden, absolutely not. As difficult as life can be, I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if I knew that I had shoved my problems onto somebody else, no matter how bad it is.

Thoughts? Am I preaching to the choir? Do you have a different angle on the issue? Discuss, or ignore it and enjoy the links.

 

Winning. Playing to the base and trolling the opposition at the same time is just delicious.

 

Can I just use it until I need glasses?

 

Instead of just buying it from Russha?

 

And she had no idea who the President of Mexico was.

 

Nothing to see here. Just, move along.

 

The Wall was the perfect album to play on teenage angst.

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524 Comments

  1. Ted S.

    And Roger Waters hates (((them))), too!

    • Spudalicious

      That’s really a shame. He was great until he turned into a racist, ant-semitic piece of shit.

      • Shirley Knott

        You have to separate the artist from the art.

        I worked as a “lab assistant” in a high school when the movie came out. Bunch of friends and I float in on a cloud of ganja smoke. We get midway and cheers and yelling of my name commence ;-\ It was kind of surreal. But love much about the music and the movie. Live in Berlin is godd, bad, awful, and okay. Nice symbolic concert, but…

      • Spudalicious

        Didn’t like the movie but I wore out the album, the cassette and I’m on my second set of Cds.

      • Tundra

        One of the first albums I ever bought. 1979. I was 12, I think.

      • Chafed

        Easier said than done when (((I’m))) the subject of his hate.

  2. Nephilium

    Would you push the button? Someone that you never met dies, and you get a large sum of cash.

    I’ll stick to my own burdens, they’re mine. Me and my demons have been together a long time, and I’ve learned how to control them.

    • Florida Man

      I’m not stuck with my demons. My demons are stuck with ME!

      • Chafed

        Rorschach is that you?

    • robc

      The original is too derivate of the monkeys paw. The twilight zone ending is better.

      • Nephilium

        Agree completely, which is rare for a Matheson story and an 80’s Twilight Zone episode.

  3. JD is Unemployed

    Foreseeable consequences are foreseeable, but evaluation is based upon self-interest that takes into account not just the immediate but long-term effects of fucking over one’s fellow man for short-term gains.

    Conscience has market value? Perhaps not in itself, but is wise counsel in making the most beneficial choices overall.

    • Spudalicious

      Yes. Even more profound when read in Yoda’s voice.

  4. Count Potato

    “Can I just use it until I need glasses?”

    What about AI animation on Chaturbate?

    • Pope Jimbo

      I’m outraged that this so-called “researcher” only worries about female sexbots (and I won’t even go into her assuming their genders). Women are 100% the same as men. It is known. So it only makes sense that they will be just as into sexbots as women. Why isn’t this researcher raising the alarm about women using sexbots too? What a shitlord.

      • Not Adahn

        Nono, women are born the same as men. But once they have their gender assigned to them The Patriarchy starts poisoning them, resulting in their smaller build. Likewise those assigned male at birth get doses of Toxic Masculinity (steroids) which give them bigger muscles but also remove empathy and turn them into defective rape machines.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        Why isn’t this researcher raising the alarm about women using sexbots too?

        Because women have been using sexbots for more than 100 years already. They just aren’t all that intelligent. But one day vibrators will cuddle with you and the Singularity will have begun.

  5. Count Potato

    “Nothing to see here. Just, move along.”

    I’m surprise the defense let that juror through.

    • Spudalicious

      The judge wouldn’t dismiss her.

      • Count Potato

        So hypothetically, lets say I have a bunch of tree branches and need mulch.

      • Spudalicious

        The fact she was the jury foreman makes it even worse.

    • Chafed

      The article suggests she dishonestly answered the questions that would have revealed her bias. The defense had no reason, based on her responses, to challenge her.

  6. Mojeaux

    I’ve always heard it this way: If everyone put all their troubles into a pile with the option of picking out new troubles, you’d probably take back your own.

    This is true. My friend who was friend-zoned (that turned out fabulously, BTW) is a single mom with 2 kids, a regular 9-5 commuter job, and a crazy-ass ex who’s making her life miserable AND it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he could kidnap the children.

    So… Yeah. I’ll take my problems, thanks.

    I think it’s a case of the devil you know.

    • MikeS

      Agreed. The grass may be greener on the other side of the fence, but that might be because it’s full of weeds.

      • Ted S.

        As Erma Bombeck said, the grass is always greener over the septic tank.

      • Rhywun

        My mom had that.

      • Mojeaux

        The older I get, the funnier Erma Bombeck gets.

        Maybe that should be wry chuckles and resigned acceptance.

      • hayeksplosives

        One of my favorite Erma-isms is “If you look like your passport photo, you’re too sick to travel.”

      • Mojeaux

        Oh, no! My passport photo was awesome. Too bad I lost my passport.

      • Nephilium

        My most recent one looks like I’m about to beat the photographer down… and that was before I got the ~$20 charge for two passport photos.

      • Tres Cool

        The NYPD Portrait Studio captured my image once, and its hands-down one the of the best pics anyone has ever taken of me.

      • Mojeaux

        You are tres cool, dude.

      • Ozymandias

        I lost my old passport; it was a good picture. The new passport photo… well, let’s just say I look like I might have had too many edibles. Damn was I high when they took that photo. I laugh every time I travel and have to hand it over.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        So what you are saying is I’ve been living next to a pot growing operation?

      • Jarflax

        No they are growing organic kale. Yes, you have moved next door to the hippies!

        Ok, actually the move out to the land and grow organic produce 70s hippies don’t bug me at all. I can sympathize. The ‘support me with welfare so I can sit around stoned and lover swap all day in the city” hippies we got in the 90s annoyed me, even when the came to my bar to watch Catawampus and The Hub (who were both pretty good bands even if they had listened to too much Phish)

      • MikeS

        This. There is a ton of overlap with the old hippies and the new libetarian-ish homesteading crowd. Self-sufficiency doesn’t have to mean you worship Gaia.

    • Jarflax

      I feel like I have missed a lot by never marrying. Then I watch my married friends, some on spouse #3, and rethink it. We end up where our choices take us, and what reason is there to believe that we’d be happier in a life we made choices all along the path to avoid?

      • Nephilium

        It appears I’ve hit the age (early 40’s) where most of my friends are going through their first divorces (in fairness, most also didn’t get married until their 30’s).

      • Fourscore

        On the average, Jarflax, you and I have both been married. Someone has to pick up the slack around here.

      • Jarflax

        Don’t get me wrong, I think marrying and having a family is inherently better than not, but if I snapped my fingers and was married with a bunch of kids would I be happier? I am the one who made all the choices that led to me sitting here single. Sure I made some of them under mistaken beliefs, but I made them based on what I wanted and what I wanted to avoid, so it seems to me that in order for me to be married and happy about it, I’d have had to actual live the path that got me there. Just snapping my fingers puts me, with all my flaws, and all my strengths in a new life, to which I am unsuited. I suspect that far from making me happy I’d be miserable and so would the family. Now, if the question changes to “You can go back to 13 or 16 or 21 with at least some of what you’ve learned”, I’m on it like a shot. I have largely wasted my life letting things come to me instead of taking charge, but a lot of what I’d do differently isn’t the sort of stuff you can just decide at 52 to change. A lot of those ships have sailed.

      • Fourscore

        I got married far too young, for me. Had I waited another 5 years my life would have been totally different. OTOH making mistakes and learning for them is OK, too.

        When I see my kids, your age, sometimes not seeming to have learned from their mistakes, repeating, I wonder if I had done a good job as a father.

        Then I come to the conclusion that they are responsible for any consequences at their age, I don’t sleep any better but I can live with it. At least at this point in their lives they aren’t hurting anyone else, for that I’m grateful. Its the best we can do.

      • Mojeaux

        Then I come to the conclusion that they are responsible for any consequences at their age

        My aunt is of the opinion that after 8 years old (when our church deems a person to have reached the age of accountability), all their choices are on them.

        Um…well, there’s that part about where they’re, you know, EIGHT. I figure you’re supposed to try to guide them the best you can till they leave the nest and then you have to sit back and watch. I am ever so tempted to just go hands-off and let them do whatever, but that would be irresponsible.

      • westernsloper

        8? Ya, not agreeing with that.

      • Nephilium

        Yeah… I’d probably put it on a sliding scale from 13-16.

      • DEG

        Now, if the question changes to “You can go back to 13 or 16 or 21 with at least some of what you’ve learned”, I’m on it like a shot. I have largely wasted my life letting things come to me instead of taking charge, but a lot of what I’d do differently isn’t the sort of stuff you can just decide at 52 to change. A lot of those ships have sailed.

        Same here, though I’m younger than you.

      • Sean

        I’m not married, but living, very blissfully, in sin. ?

        We went out for lunch today. The check came, and she said “I’ll get it, you always pay.”

        ?

        Mid 40s here.

      • cyto

        You missed out on a lot by not marrying *well*.

        That’s the trick.

        There is a lot working against that happening though. And even if you do find a good one (for us dudes), when they have babies it is like playing russian roulette. Biology is a very fickle thing. We like to think of ourselves differently, but in reality we are very malleable biological beings, subject to the vagaries of both external and internal influences that can completely alter our motivations over time.

        But if you do happen to get a good partnership… there really is nothing better. A man and woman lifting each other up through life is a wonderful thing, and it gets better and better over time.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Aye.

        Getting married per se isn’t a goal unto itself. Gotta get the right one. Not marrying is better than marrying the wrong one, I think.

        (dude who just got married in his late 40’s)

  7. straffinrun

    Would it make a difference if said schlub was somebody you knew, or someone you’ll never know, or run into? For me, it makes a huge difference. In a vacuum, I would absolutely take the deal. If I knew that somebody else, known or not, would have to take on my burden, absolutely not.

    This sounds contradictory, Spud. *Gets coffee, rereads*

    • Spudalicious

      That wasn’t quite right. The second sentence is worded incorrectly.

      • straffinrun

        ?. Had me going over those sentences repeatedly.

  8. Aloysious

    “Pinky, are you pondering what I’m pondering?”

    The Brain > random monkey. Even if the monkey is better looking than Dave Weigal.

    • C. Anacreon

      “Pinky, are you pondering what I’m pondering?”

      I think the answer you’re looking for is

      “Poi Dog Pondering”

      • Rhywun

        Poi Dog Pondering

        Crikey, there’s a name I haven’t heard in decades.

    • MikeS

      I think so, Brain, but where are we going to find a duck and a hose at this hour?

  9. Playa Manhattan

    I have no problem if someone lies during voir dire to nullify or otherwise interfere with the heavy hand of the state.

    But to lie to get on to the jury so you can punish someone for their politics? What a scumbag. Toss the entire case with prejudice.

    • Pope Jimbo

      To start with, jury nullification shouldn’t be illegal anywhere and all jurors should learn about it when the judge gives them their instructions before deliberations.

      Think of the shitstorm if Stone had been acquitted and it came out that one of the jurors was head of a local MAGA group and had posted about the “witch hunt” before the trial.

      Either way, the justice system isn’t doing well by letting a jury be impaneled with jurors who have such obvious biases.

      • straffinrun

        It’s bizarre when the defense is explicitly told they can’t inform the jury of a totally legal thing, nullification.

      • Naptown Bill

        Let’s say there was a cop on trial for something. Maybe he’s innocent, maybe he’s guilty, but it’s mostly process crimes. If a person said exactly what she did about cops, then behaved exactly as she did, what would happen?

    • Naptown Bill

      Thursday night a woman who is allegedly friends with Tomeka was talking about the whole deal with someone I assume was her adult daughter. Actually, I hadn’t heard about this at all so her story was the first take I heard. The short version is essentially that Tomeka is pure as the driven snow and did absolutely nothing wrong, but after just posting something innocent on Twitter mentioning the verdict, she was swarmed by crazy people and, and this is a direct quote, “Russian bots”. She fears for her life, Roger Stone is a felon who should’ve gotten life, and this is yet another example of Trump’s villainy and the conspiracy to keep him and his cronies from facing justice. Granted, I took it with a grain of salt, but you can imagine my surprise when I read the details elsewhere.

      The verdict should be overturned and that woman should do time. And the people who are cheering her on because it’s more important to send your political foes to prison than to have a justice system that is fair and unbiased should be tarred and feathered.

      • Playa Manhattan

        Life in prison…. for lying to congress?

        Fuck that.

        They lie to us. Make that a felony instead.

      • Naptown Bill

        Frankly, I think it’s disgusting that Congress can coerce someone to testify to them about anything, regardless of whether it’s a crime, and then throw them in jail if they don’t do it or if they lie.

      • Count Potato

        “Russian bots”

        OFFS!

      • Naptown Bill

        I was having a nice curry with my wife, we were trying to enjoy a rare night out, and it was a very small place with everyone cheek-to-jowl. Otherwise, bein’ as I was a few beers in, I was sorely tempted to ask this lady how she could tell the dreaded Russian Twitter botnet was involved? Like, what specifically tipped her off?

        Christ, it’s 2020, are we still doing “Russian bots”?

      • Count Potato

        Unfortunately, facts can’t be argued with some people.

      • Naptown Bill

        It was the NPC meme done intentionally as street theater. Seriously, I felt like I was in an SNL skit. But, I mean, these are the people who live around me. And they vote.

  10. Playa Manhattan

    “President Donald Trump’s $1.5 billion proposal to prop up the country’s nuclear fuel industry has emboldened at least one company to take steps toward boosting operations at dormant uranium mines around the West, including outside Grand Canyon National Park.”

    More accurately, there will be no mining inside Grand Canyon National Park, which makes one question why it was mentioned at all.

    • Heroic Mulatto

      I’m currently taking a shit outside Grand Canyon National Park.

      • Ted S.

        Weren’t you supposed to tell the conservatard to shut up or something?

      • Heroic Mulatto

        It was a completely factual statement.

      • Not Adahn

        Lookit Mr. “Euclidean geometry is the only true geometry” over here.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        It was a Platonically ideal shit too.

      • Jarflax

        Doesn’t that mean it was the shittiest thing possible?

      • juris imprudent

        Or it means he didn’t really expel anything from his body because ideals cannot be made concrete, and all concrete representations of the ideal are but imperfect and warped manifestations.

      • Jarflax

        But the essence of shit is expulsion from the body, so if he did not take a shit it can not be the Platonic Ideal Shit, because it lacks the essence of Shit.

        Unless…. Socrates was full of shit?

      • Ted S.

        What do you have against Socrates?

      • Pope Jimbo

        I’d be more impressed if you took a shit inside the park and filled the entire canyon up.

      • Count Potato

        I’ve lived my entire life outside Grand Canyon National Park.

    • westernsloper

      I think the fear mongers claim a fear of water contamination which is kind of funny since I would wager 90% of all Uranium mines ever mined would be in a location where the run off would make it to the Colorado River at some point.

      • Ted S.

        So there’s no water to contaminate, then.

      • Playa Manhattan

        Here’s my position on the matter: Don’t want natural resource extraction near a national park? Make the park bigger, otherwise, STFU.

      • l0b0t

        Perhaps those who don’t want the land used in a certain way (resource extraction, building of a Walmart, or mosque, or whatever) could purchase that land and then not do that thing? The heckler’s veto strikes me as immoral.

      • Not Adahn

        But then they’ll just move the resource extraction outside the park boundaries!!!!

      • Jarflax

        Uranium is pretty heavy I kind of suspect it will settle out rapidly.

    • Donation Not Taxation

      Step 1: Ban all mining EVERYWHERE that is outside of Grand Canyon National Park.

      Step 2: outrage about ruining Grand Canyon National Park by mining , regardless of whether there is mining there at all, and regardless of what precautions are taken to protect the park.

      Step 3: Ban mining inside Grand Canyon National Park.

  11. Aloysious

    Now that I’ve got past the headline…

    ~”“I would do anything to change “x”.””

    Interesting question. Only if the change affected me alone. Wouldn’t push stuff off onto other people, no matter how banal and/or silly my personal issues are. They’re mine, dammit.

      • Spudalicious

        Too easy.

      • Ted S.

        OK, how about this?

      • Spudalicious

        Although I do love the song.

      • Ted S.

        You and Aloysius need to get a room together.

      • Playa Manhattan

        He won’t do that.

      • Aloysious

        My god I hate that song.

      • Ted S.

        You would do anything for hate, but would you do that?

      • straffinrun

        That song is about anal, no?

      • MikeS

        I thought it was about buying feminine hygiene products.

      • Chafed

        Oral.

      • Sean

        ?

      • Spudalicious

        Damn your eyes, Te;dS”. Now I’m doing a deep dive on Meatloaf.

      • Not Adahn

        Rule 34

      • Spudalicious

        I won’t do that.

      • Count Potato

        LOL

      • Aloysious

        Don’t go any deeper than the album ‘Bat Out of Hell’. Everything else is just a hard pass.

    • Spudalicious

      I figured I was preaching to the choir, but it did get me thinking. There are many people in this world that would respond, “fuck ’em”.

      • Mojeaux

        Clearly we are not shitlord/ladying right.

      • Spudalicious

        That’s what I like about this place. Live and let live, but don’t shit on other people.

      • Ted S.

        Except on those for whom that’s a fetish.

        (NB: I am not one of those.)

      • Chafed

        Thou doth protest too much.

      • Ted S.

        So you liked it when I shit on you?

  12. Mojeaux

    Someone the other day said something about transient art (I think it was during our art v craft discussion). I meant to say that cake art is transient but no less artistry.

    • Not Adahn

      All performing arts are transitory. Maybe someday we may have a way of recording and recreating particular gastronomical performances.

      • Mojeaux

        In sorting through my mementos, I came across the program for a performance of Carmina Burana by the Kansas City Ballet, chamber orchestra, and chorale. I remember that performance like it was yesterday. Fucking magical.

      • Jarflax

        All performing arts are transitory. Maybe someday we may have a way of recording and recreating particular gastronomical performances.

        I’d take that further ans say all art is transitory. Even the Sphinx is wearing away.

      • Chipping Pioneer

        You can find such performances on the sidewalks in San Francisco.

    • l0b0t

      I love transient art – sandcastles, ice sculptures, food, landscaping, hairstyles, fireworks, etc.. Transient art, however, is best avoided.

      • Mojeaux

        You’re not wrong…

  13. Pope Jimbo

    What is really strange about Spud’s question is that all of you are debating it so intensely. I mean, it is well known that all of you are a figment of my imagination. I’m the only real thing in the entire universe and as such can take any action I feel like without any real consequences.

    • DEG

      Wait, I thought I was the product of a really bad acid trip? You mean I’m actually the figment of your imagination? What? Nonsense.

      • straffinrun

        Jimbo’s ladder.

    • MikeS

      Your a moron.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I may have to rethink you. If I’m being honest with myself, I should just redo NoDak entirely.

      • MikeS

        ?

    • The Hyperbole

      ask rather
      said warty bliggens
      what the universe
      has done to deserve me

  14. Rhywun

    The blunder happened when Klobuchar, D-Minn., weighed into the dustup between President Trump and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg […] But then Maher chimed in with an incorrect statement […]

    It’s like they can’t help themselves.

    • Ted S.

      They love the Democrats and nobody else.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I don’t think they can help it. Anyone running for office has some sort of problem. Normal people don’t want that job. Sure we’d all like to have some fun with our significant other in the Oval Office, but going to budget meetings? Sucking up to other ego maniacs? Fuck that shit.

      And part of their problem is that they really do all think they are the smartest people in the world. None of them for a second don’t think they could run each and every one of our lives better than we can. All we have to do is shut up and listen to them.

      That is why we all love it so much when they fuck up like this. Because we are dumb and think that being so wrong about simple things will lead these sociopaths to re-examine their lives and maybe admit that they don’t have all the answers.

      • Fourscore

        Anyone running for office has some sort of mental disability.

    • Heroic Mulatto

      The thing is, what was incorrect was “Thomas”. They were all thinking of, and meant, George Jefferson.

      • westernsloper

        Would vote for.

      • AlmightyJB

        Weezie would take care of business.

      • l0b0t

        +1 Mr. Bentley, clumsily painting a #7 on an office window.

      • C. Anacreon

        Nicely done!
        Not many people know that the Jefferson’s neighbor was previously the Mad Painter from the first episodes of Sesame Street.

      • Lord Digby: Elitist SCUBA

        How many know that Stockard Canning was in those clips, too?

      • C. Anacreon

        I had no idea! You totally one-upped this time. Great bit of trivia.

        Her mom was probably doing Hello, Dolly! on Broadway at the time.

      • Lord Digby: Elitist SCUBA

        Did I just call her “Canning”?

        /fml

      • C. Anacreon

        All you have to say is “fucking autocorrect” and everyone understands.

      • Lord Digby: Elitist SCUBA

        If only this Chromebook could do such…

      • Rhywun

        Nobody needs an apartment with more than one bathroom.

  15. Francisco d'Anconia

    US researchers have warned that the availability of sex robots with artificial intelligence (AI) poses a growing psychological and moral threat to individuals and society.

    Oh, fuck directly off, slaver!

    • AlmightyJB

      I want a robot woodchipper that seeks out Puritan nannies and eats them. I will name it RAND. Robot Assassin of Nanny Douchebags.

    • Not Adahn

      Wrongfun is the very definition of immorality.

      • AlmightyJB

        Depends on your moral code.

      • Not Adahn

        “Vices,” kinda by definition are those things that are wrongfun. Activities that actually cause harm and have a victim are crimes and/or torts.

      • Francisco d'Anconia

        Disagree.

        Immorality is violating the rights of others and, as such, should be crimes (the only crimes). Having vices, that harm no one else, isn’t immoral

      • straffinrun

        Amoral?

      • AlmightyJB

        AJBMoral.

      • Francisco d'Anconia

        Meh. Amoral means unconcerned with the rightness or wrongness of something. I’m concerned with the rightness and wrongness of things. I just have a hard time believing that something can be wrong (immoral) if no one is harmed.

      • Count Potato

        I think you might be confusing morals and ethics. Look at the seven deadly sins, or any number of things considered immoral, including self-harm, but aren’t unethical.

      • Jarflax

        People raise this confusing morals and ethics thing, but as a guy who has read far to many philosophy tomes attempting to define those terms let me suggest that the people who are using the terms differently than you can likely produce just as much evidence for their usage as you can. It doesn’t really boil down to morality = God’s rules and Ethics = man’s rules, although that definition does exist. Other definitions have ended up more or less switching that to morals=external rules, ethics= internal. Probably best to define the terms as you go at this point. People have been doing so since Aristotle and those two words have carried too much water at this point.

      • Count Potato

        “Probably best to define the terms as you go at this point.”

        Fair enough.

    • l0b0t

      And all this time I thought it was the reefer, and the jazz music, and the comic books.

      • Chafed

        Oh yeah. Every one of them a mortal threat.

    • Jarflax

      Moral threat = someone is having fun and I must stop it. Oddly, don’t set out to make people less happy is a basic rule of morality.

  16. westernsloper

    The Tampa Bay Vapers seem to be playing much better this week.

    • westernsloper

      Spoke too soon.

  17. Not Adahn

    I’m working my way through The Prisoner. I’m guessing Scotch would be the appropriate beverage?

    I have a feeling I’m going to be let down. I can see how it was revolutionary for its time in a similar way to Twin Peaks, but it seems to be too hobbled by TV conventions.

    • Ted S.

      What do they drink in Wales?

      • Not Adahn

        I do have gin, but it’s domestic and citrus and also it’s not gin weather.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Not sure. Go ask Jonah?

      • Not Adahn

        Do you think he got it on with the widows of Ashur?

      • Shirley Knott

        Daily.

        Actually, I love Wales. I’ve stayed at Portmeirion twice, had a lovely stay both times.

    • l0b0t

      Have you reached the Western episode (IIRC, Living In Harmony)? CBS didn’t air it in the initial US run as they thought it was too anti-war. That one and The Girl Who Was Death are my two favorites. The finale is referenced a wee bit in The League Of Gentlemen Christmas Special, if that is your sort of television.

      • Shirley Knott

        Ah, The League of a Gentlemen! Good sir, I salute you!
        That this was a #1 British sketch comedy, several seasons, continues to fill me with an odd mix of fascination, dread, and bemused horror.

      • Not Adahn

        I just finished the chess episode. Going to sleep now, I’ve got right hours of shooting scheduled for tomorrow.

    • Donation Not Taxation

      If you think it will let you down, then you have already lowered your expectations. maybe lower them more?

      Also, if you see all of the episodes and the show as a whole makes sense, then maybe consider writing a post for Glibs about The Prisoner.

      • C. Anacreon

        I did always like the giant security ball.

        Good era Simpsons did a funny reference to it.

    • The Last American Hero

      Stay with it. Maybe you can explain the finale to me.

    • MikeS

      Attn: Trashy: Why did that comment look just fine in preview, but then do what it did once posted?

    • AlmightyJB

      Was it Vera?

      • MikeS

        The link works. Enjoy yourself.

      • AlmightyJB

        Nice. I wore that album out. The whole thing is a masterpiece.

      • AlmightyJB

        We’re going to have to agree to disagree

      • MikeS

        That and Learning to Fly are very close for me. The only reason I pick Learning’ is because Comfortably’ has gotten so much more airplay (and therefore my earplay).

      • AlmightyJB

        That is great song though. Pink Floyd is definitely a top 5 for me.

      • MikeS

        They used to be for me, but that’s waned over the years. I don’t dislike them anymore, just found new favorites.

      • MikeS

        You know, I’ve not followed Alison closely, but I remember liking a song of hers from decades ago and I always give her a listen when she pops up.

        What song could I be thinking of? It may have been a duet…I’m talking like 20-30 years ago…

      • Mojeaux

        I had not, but thank you! Alison has played with lots of people, most notably Robert Plant. IIRC, he was asked to re-tour with LZ while he was out touring with her, requiring him to break their contract and he declined. Totally made me adore him (as opposed to young Plant making my hormones go whacky *le sigh*).

      • Ted S.

        I thought you were going to link to Alison.

      • Ted S.

        And that’s a different song than this.

      • Mojeaux

        Not the best, but on the Cods & Cuntes playlist.

        “Us and Them” is the best.

      • MikeS

        Also very good. Brain Damage/Eclipse is probably my favorite song(s) off that album.

      • juris imprudent

        I have two: Time, as the one I have never tired of listening to, and Shine on You Crazy Diamond because as a tribute to Syd it was so complete.

      • juris imprudent

        Not a bad time, just the wrong time.

        I’m thinking this is the Ted S. life story.

      • Ted S.

        I’m always where I should be.

        And when I’m not, I’m with some underworld spy, or the wife of a close friend.

      • We're not saying BEAM's an alien, but . . .

        You’re so vain.

      • Lord Digby: Elitist SCUBA

        I bet he has a lot of apricot in that wardrobe of his.

  18. AlmightyJB

    Good start on the beers tonight. Large Samuel Smith’s Russian Imperial Stout first, now on The Poet Oatmeal Stoat by New Holland. Two of my favorite beers.

    • straffinrun

      Never tried them, but I could drink the names alone.

      • AlmightyJB

        Trifecta. Found a large Samuel Smith’s Nut Brown Ale in the back of the fridge. Another on of my favs. Winning!

  19. Tundra

    I’ll take my own challenges. No way I would ever foist them on anyone else.

    Of course, I don’t want their bullshit either…

    • AlmightyJB

      Exactly. Life is one Goddamn thing after another. I’ll own mine and deal with it. Tiz what it tiz.

  20. LCDR_Fish

    So…after over 3 weeks since completing the secondary forms, etc – I still haven’t gotten any update on an interview from the Apprentice School.

    OTOH after randomly reaching out, I received a very attractive offer from one of my former superior officers (since retired) at my old Dahlgren area stomping grounds. While it would still be a desk job (boo), it would be pretty mentally stimulating and engaging (based on my previous interactions with the role) – and minimal student interaction/admin bs. At the same time….being in that location (vs Charlottesville), I *could* do welding at local community college, as well as CDL ops, etc with my GI bill. Not perfect, but the opportunities are still there and it wouldn’t be the worst place (VA excepted) to try and settle for a few years of stability…particularly since I’d like to try my hand at actually buying a house.

    Now he’s out of the office next week, but my intent is to ask him for the letter he offered as soon as he’s back…and then maybe even quit my current job a month earlier and commute a longer distance (in the month before I finish closing out this lease) in order to get a decent feel for things during the house hunt process as well – better to be stable on a new paycheck than stuck in limbo IMO.

    To be honest….at this point in my life (39 today), I’m not sure I’d really be up for going back to basic classroom learning for some stuff…and if I get certs on my own, I can still look for part time opportunities to build hours, etc.

    • l0b0t

      Good on ya. That sounds quite nice.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Thanks. I would also have gym access on base so that would be nice – and that location is a lot better for walking around outside between sessions, etc – so I could get the fresh air/exercise if I put in the effort. A step up in salary is better in the long run than a step down (even if it was for other goals)….now I need to start figuring out what my house budget will be with a VA loan…might mean living further out of town than I’d like (nice options out there…but losing out on some of the location conveniences in some cases).

    • Tundra

      Happy birthday, brother!

      Sounds like fun! I’ve had good luck with those situations where people come after me.

      You’re only 39. Plenty of time to change course. Good luck!

      • LCDR_Fish

        Yeah…kinda funny that when I talked to my buddy after emailing he mentioned that he’d already brought it up with some of the senior folks in the building and they were “excited” to hear that I might be coming back….I guess that’s a good sign.

      • straffinrun

        39 is the best age. Enjoy it. Not getting better, at least not physically.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Thanks. to be honest…much as I like the idea of additional practical skills – the apprentice school is a 4 year program…and I can do a lot of the certs in a lot less time. My hands have been bothering me more the last few months too. Exercises helped my right hand a bit, but now my left is giving me more “discomfort”….going to see about another x-ray.

        I don’t like a desk job necessarily – that’s one of my biggest complaints workwise, but if the building is the same as I recall…there’s enough moving around involved.

    • Mojeaux

      Wow, happy birthday!

      What an awesome dilemma to have.

    • Count Potato

      Happy Birthday!

    • Sean

      Happy birthday ??

    • Chafed

      Happy Birthday Fishy.

    • Festus

      Echoed!

    • Gustave Lytton

      Happy Birthday! Also, what straff said.

    • DEG

      Happy Birthday!

  21. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    I think I dodged a bullet today. Wife had mentioned seeing an oil pressure indication blip on for a moment on Monday. That plus me noticing some minor surging when the engine was cold made me pencil in an appointment to investigate once the temperature got back in the 50s next week. I didn’t see any sign of a catastrophic leak, so my urgency wasn’t very high. It’s not the first time a warning light blipped on for no apparent reason in this car.

    This morning, the other shoe dropped. Engine started throwing a camshaft position sensor code and wife got another blip of the oil pressure indicator when she was going down/up a substantial hill. When she got back, the first thing I looked at was the oil level. It was at zero. It was running on whatever reserve exists below the dipstick.

    Thankfully, I added all the oil I had on hand, and it cleared out the code after driving a few miles.

    Now I need to find out where the oil went. It’s possible I short filled it at the last oil change (~October) , but not low enough to cause an issue. Hopefully it’s just a loose filter.

    • straffinrun

      That’s one lengthy euphemism.

    • Sean

      How much did you add and what is the engine capacity?

    • MikeS

      It’s burning it.

    • MikeS

      What vehicle/engine is this?

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        2015 Fusion Hybrid (2.0L Atkinson)

        It hasn’t eaten oil in the past.

      • Count Potato

        Check the tail pipe and the engine coolant.

      • Sean

        Giggity.

    • Tundra

      With modern cars we’ve gotten really, really lazy about checking oil.

      They have sensors, yes, but sensors fail. New DI cars commonly use oil.

      Check your oil when you fill up, peeps!

      • straffinrun

        OK boomer.

      • Tres Cool

        So much this. “Jugsy” being a child of 36 years of age, doesnt understand the importance of checking oil, regardless of what lights AREN’T on.

      • Tres Cool

        /also a weak euphemism

      • Spudalicious

        You want to be oil checked by Jugsy?

      • Fourscore

        I ignored (forgot) to check the oil on my 20 year old F150, probably for a year. Had about 5 K miles on the oil. Finally remembered the other day, down a pint. Need a change anyway. I’m the annoying old guy ahead of you when you’re in a hurry.

  22. MikeS

    Self-important artist wants to paint mural of Greta Thunberg on wall in North Dakota capital, only an hour away from Oil Fracking Country; is shocked by pushback from residents.

    Balkowitsch said he saw the planned mural as a celebration of art — not as a slap in the face of the oil or coal industries, which Thunberg and other climate activists fight but which heavily fuel North Dakota’s economy.

    “There was no motivation other than install a very important piece of history that was captured here in North Dakota, in Bismarck — but I guess Bismarck doesn’t want it,” Balkowitsch said.

    *cough* bullshit *cough*

    Balkowitsch said he is seeking another venue for the mural, and not necessarily in Bismarck. He said the incident has created doubt in his mind whether his hometown is the proper place to display his work — which is in places such as the Smithsonian Institution, the Library of Congress and the Swedish History Museum.

    “I have to rethink everything,” he said.

    ?????

    • MikeS

      Point of clarification: North Dakota capitol city, not the capitol building.

      • Ted S.

        See, this is what I get for using Eyepiece and not doing the link myself.

      • straffinrun

        Can we get an edit fairy to screw up that link too?

      • Ted S.

        Hateful.

      • straffinrun

        I’ll be honest here. I’ve started many a day by saying to myself, “Today, you won’t be an asshole.” Then I make it through one or two human interactions before that little devil on my shoulder starts whispering, “See? It’s not much fun, is it?”

      • MikeS

        Ha-ha!

        /Nelson

    • straffinrun

      Let OMWC do it.

    • Chafed

      You NoDak rubes really hate important art.

      • MikeS

        THIS is important art.

      • Chafed

        Those pheasants are great.

      • MikeS

        Yeah, it’s kitschy, but it did take a lot of talent and time.

      • Ted S.

        It should have been “Pheasants Playing Poker”.

      • Spudalicious

        Pheasants are bitches. Almost as bad as chukar.

      • Francisco d'Anconia

        Chukar are evil incarnate! Pheasants are a close second.

    • 61North

      “City planning staff had recommended approval, according to city documents. The Renaissance Zone Authority, acting as the Downtown Design Review Committee, was poised to give it final approval Thursday.”

      This is the worst part of the story.

      • Rhywun

        It’s infuriating. You can’t build anything around here without approval from dozens of agencies, your neighbors, and the free-shit activists. And then everyone has the fucking nerve to complain that nothing gets built except luxury condos (with the proper “affordable” set-asides for the connected, natch). Add more laws, rinse, repeat.

      • creech

        True. Went to a meeting last week where it was revealed the cheapest carriage houses in the planned development would be $600K plus.
        Why? Zoning prohibited $300K townhouses, so developer tries to maximize his profit.

      • Chafed

        Have they not met their constituents?

  23. zwak

    The Wall is an instant change song. As soon as it hear it, it gets auto deep-sixed. Can Not Do It Any More.

    • straffinrun

      Glibs aren’t cool. You have to refer to bands with only part of their names. Floyd. The Stones. Zep. My favorite band is Ha.

    • creech

      Two stories that should be read by every MBA candidate. Don’t let volume for one or a limited number of customers capture your product line. I trust none of us sell our monocles to Wal-Mart?

    • Ted S.

      We did?

    • straffinrun

      That plastic, creepy vibe network news shows give off is unbearable. Can you imagine working on one of those?

      • MikeS

        That’s exactly the feeling I had. Charles Osbourne had it in spades.

      • Ted S.

        Point of clarification: Charles Osgood.

      • MikeS

        Are you stalking me?

      • Ted S.

        I’m sorry you’re constantly wrong.

      • MikeS

        Hateful.

    • Tres Cool

      Well, despite my age, I do listen to SiriusXM’s Shade 45 a couple times a day

      • The Hyperbole

        Rock the Bells Radio! OMG Racist AF, what is LL Cool J too “urban” for you.

      • Tres Cool

        I listen to “Rock The Bells” from 1pm-3pm
        Noon on S45 is Lord Sears’s “sober mix” that lasts for an hour; 3-4 pm is his “drunk mix” (ideally with DJ Caesar or DaInfamouzAmadeus)
        After that, at 4, is Rude Jude. Which Im in/out on unless it’s Thursday and #PillMix starts around 5:45. I generally get tired of his interviews unless either Ellis or WhoKid are sitting in, and listen to Roxanne Shante on Rock The Bells.

        Saturday night on S45 is Scram Jones from 6-8, then Sunday is Big Von and the “Sunday Service” from 6-8 pm, but I generally switch to WTKS in Orlando to listen to Sunday Night Vinyl,

      • C. Anacreon

        Saturday night Sirius XM radio for me, by comparison, is the Cousin Brucey show on “60s on 6”.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        Brucie was vaccinated with a phonograph needle. But he’s old so I try to find it charming.

      • C. Anacreon

        I was born in 1960, but my mom always had Top 40 radio on in the car from my earliest memories, so I can recognize just about any song that was popular in the 60s from about 1963 forward. So it’s fun hearing all those old tunes again, and I like how Cousin Brucey digs up the old one-hit wonders. Every once in awhile he’ll have some quick live interview with some obscure performer from the era, “we’ve got the bass player from Strawberry Alarm Clock calling from his assisted living facility in Clearwater”, which nonetheless can be interesting. And his format is so like the Top-40 radio stations from my childhood in Chicago, the nostalgia is great, you can close your eyes and almost imagine you’re a kid again way back then.

        Brucey just played Gary Puckett and the Union Gap’s “Young Girl” from 1968. The radio cut out for a bit, I thought it sounded as if he might have dedicated it to “an old man with candy in the desert”. The lyrics sure fit:

        Young girl, get out my mind
        My love for you is way out of line
        Better run girl
        You’re much too young girl

  24. Naptown Bill

    So, to the prompt…nope, there’s nothing I’d foist on to anyone else. To the extent I’d change anything about my life there are plenty of instances in my past where I’ve been shitty to people that I’d take back if I could, but I wouldn’t take them back in order to hand that guilt to someone else and let the damage remain.

    • straffinrun

      People shift burdens on others all the time. The tricky part is figuring out what really is “your burden”.

  25. Fourscore

    I always confront the problem, solve it, one way or another. Sometimes the solution is to ignore the problem and it goes away, sometimes to work around the problem (so it isn’t a problem). One time was a divorce, solved the most serious part of the problem. I gave an El Camino away, then had to pay the sales tax for the recipient, (In TX at the time minimum value was $250,) ’cause he didn’t have any money but I got rid of that piece of junk.

    Teenagers have problems that last 15 minutes of hysteria.

  26. 61North

    I posted in March asking for advice about how to handle my buddy’s wife leaving him, and the consensus was saying nothing bad about her. So I followed that and now they’re back together and she hasn’t given me any more eye rolls than usual. I’m the single guy who’s a “bad influence” on him, which I freely admit to, so she’s never been my biggest fan.

    • MikeS

      Bullet. Dodged.

      • Mojeaux

        I’ll say. When in doubt, keep your mouth shut.

      • 61North

        That’s generally my mantra.

      • MikeS
    • Chafed

      Good job.

    • Festus

      Live and learn. I’ve stepped in that cow pie at least three times.

      • Rhywun

        My buddy whose wife left him and then came back was real good about it. It was as if everything that was said never happened.

      • Festus

        Lucky. I’ve got childhood friends that won’t talk to me over that stuff. The key is to listen and not pipe up, even if you think that you have to. Hard to do when you are commiserdrinking.

      • Mojeaux

        Listen and forget.

      • Rhywun

        Lucky.

        Especially since me and my other (once*) closest buddy don’t like her and the feeling is mutual.

        *long story

      • C. Anacreon

        My sister’s college boyfriend cheated on her and she broke up. She called me and I thought I was doing the right thing by saying “you’re too good for him, I never really liked him anyway.”

        They got back together and have now been married for 30 years.

        I think she told him all about what I said after they reconciled, and he’s always been a little snippy around me, I assume because of that bad start.

        Where were you guys way back then to tell me to keep my mouth shut?

      • DEG

        A relative of mine is going through some relationship trouble. I listened to my relative and gave my relative my honest opinion. I like my relative’s significant other, but I think the relationship is doomed, and I think the significant other is the one going to doom it.

        We’ll see if my opinion bites me in the ass.

  27. westernsloper

    I waited around all afternoon for it to warm up (like the forecast said it would) to light the grill. Now it is dark and I have chicken, that has been marinating all afternoon, to cook.

    *Puts on fleece pants and lights grill

    Where in the ^&*(^*% did I put that headlamp?

    • 61North

      Headlamps are really good presents. Nobody gets too excited at first, but after a few uses they come around to it.

      • westernsloper

        Never found the headlamp but the magnetic mechanics light sticks to the chain hoist over my grilling area so all good. Other than I didn’t use enough charcoal for the amount of chicken I have. Ooops.

      • 61North

        The magnetic led lights are really useful, too. I bought one for all of my ex’s brothers and dad the last Christmas we were together. At least one brother was still using it this fall when we were working on his cousin’s truck.

      • pistoffnick

        “…the chain hoist over my grilling area…”

        What the hell are you grilling that you need a chain hoist? Whole cows?

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Long pig.

      • westernsloper

        Naaaa, I needed the hoist for the pizza oven build and never took it down because I might want to tweak the pizza oven more. I don’t have a grill big enough for whole cows, and I think those would be best cooked in the ground over hot coals and rocks.

  28. The Hyperbole

    You are all soft! Pawn off my troubles onto some schlub whom I’ve never met and never will meet and whom is probably (Like 86% of the population at large) a complete Asshat? Fuck Yeah! In A Heartbeat, This is it people, this is what we get, take what you can. I fucked up and followed my ‘morals’ for most of 40 plus years and I got shit to show for it, sure everyone that knows me will tell you what a great fucking guy I am, but what’s that worth, ‘fuck all’ that’s what. I should have started gaming the system from the day I saw it for what it was but instead I thought I’d be bigger than those assholes who ‘play the game’, hard work and honesty only lead to aching hands and a sore backside.

    • Mojeaux

      hard work and honesty only lead to aching hands and a sore backside.

      You’re not wrong.

      whom

      Dude, totally wrong. WHO.

      • The Hyperbole

        ‘Whom’ makes me sound muchly educated.

      • grrizzly

        Only the second one is wrong.

      • Ted S.

        “Who” if it’s the subject; “whom” if it’s the object.

    • Fourscore

      I think I see the problem, Hype. Why don’t you come into my office and lie down on the couch?. Close your eyes and see if you can remember when these feelings started? How about a cup of tea?

      Sometimes feelings of inadequacy aren’t wrong.

      • The Hyperbole

        Ouch, Fourscore from the top rope!

      • Fourscore

        Just talking to myself

      • Tres Cool

        “I told my psychiatrist I felt like I was ugly. He told me to lay on the couch- face down!”

        -R. Dangerfield

    • Ted S.

      [Pawns off troubles on The Hyperbole]

      • The Hyperbole

        Spud said it wasn’t reciprocal.

    • Ted S.

      sure everyone that knows me will tell you what a great fucking guy I am

      No they won’t.

  29. gbob

    Would normally reject letting others suffer for my sins. Then I find myself currently stuck st a concert with my gal. I would make all of you assholes suffer through this if I could go home.

    • Sean

      Celine DIon?

      Enya?

      • gbob

        Worst. Former lead singer for a band called Soul Coughing. Just finished a 37 minute jam song.

        Please kill me.

      • Ted S.

        Runaway cough never coming back
        Wrong way on a one-way hack….

      • Rhywun

        LOL

      • Tres Cool

        /writer’s

      • Chafed

        I’m sorry Gbob. She better make it up to you later.

      • Sean

        Full disclosure:

        Super bon bon is on the sd music card in my car.

        ?

      • westernsloper

        Tundra always drops the best obscure bands I have never heard of.

      • westernsloper

        ?

      • Tundra

        One more.

        I forgot about how much I liked him.

        Thanks and sorry, gbob!

      • LemonGrenade

        I like Mike Doughty! Sorry you’re not enjoying it.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Same same. Tundra already provided examples of why.

    • Nephilium

      Who’s the band? That would make a difference. There’s a baby shower for one of the girlfriend’s friends that I’m supposed to go to in March, I’m half hoping for a change to be scheduled for that weekend to get me off the hook.

      • Ted S.

        Men are expected to go to baby showers?

      • MikeS

        No. They absolutely are not.

      • Nephilium

        The boyfriends/spouses were specifically invited, since the mother to be didn’t want it to be just girls. It reminds me of when two of my friends were getting married back in the day. Half the members of the bridal party wanted to skip the bachelorette party and wanted to come to the bachelor party instead (they said the guys were more fun to hang out with).

      • Jarflax

        Wanted to come? Or were sent to spy and make sure the groom didn’t bang a stripper?

      • Nephilium

        Wanted to come. Several of them batted for both teams, and were used to hanging out with all of us guys at the bars already.

      • Festus

        Ha! We hosted a bachelor party that was going horribly wrong and a bunch of the girls crashed it. They ended up carrying the groom out, one to a limb and I only needed to clean up a little blood and do some basic dry-wall patches the next day. Turns out volatile people shouldn’t be dosed with whisky and doused in food coloring. Some of his buddies were just assholes.

      • Nephilium

        Festus: One bachelor party (same group of friends), we ditched the father of the groom and left him while he was pissing against a wall. It was his third requested stop in 30 minutes, and he brought (and forced everyone to drink) Cold Duck.

        We did send someone back to pick him up about 30 minutes later.

      • MikeS

        It reminds me of the not very distant past when men not only didn’t go to baby showers, but they weren’t even in the room when the baby was born.

        Quite a change for such a horrible, patriarchal society, isn’t it?

      • Festus

        Guys at the baby shower seem to cluster away from the “festivities” and make doleful, stilted small talk. Most of them will be strangers to one another but if there is beer they can abide.

      • robc

        I got invited to a double baby shower ( two friends pregnant) a few years back. I brought a keg. Everyone but the pregnant women appreciated it.

      • Festus

        ^This guy fucks!

    • Ted S.

      But in exchange for going to this concert, you’re going to get sex, right?

      • gbob

        Plus shes wearing a very low cut shirt, so I got me some eye candy.

      • Ted S.

        The girl, or the singer?

    • Tres Cool

      Michael Bublé strikes again!

      • Mojeaux

        Hey! No smack talk about Michael Bublé.

      • Jarflax

        Mojo, it isn’t smack talk. It is accurate description.

      • Mojeaux

        If I were on my phone right now, I’d give you an angry-face emoji!

      • MikeS

        Windows Key + .

      • Mojeaux

        Oh yay! It worked! Thank you!

      • Sean

        ?

      • Jarflax

        You and Mike are Soooo going in front of the Bro Counsel for that!

      • MikeS

        Hey, look right above. I’m doing my best to keep dudes from having to go to baby showers! That is worth something!

      • Mojeaux

        ?

      • MikeS

        ??

  30. Ozymandias

    I wouldn’t change a thing or trade with anyone; not the deaths of friends, not the anthrax debacle, not even the horrific divorce from wife, the first, and the damage it did to my relationships with my kids. Not a single thing would I give away because these things were mine, chosen for me by my higher self, to bring me that much closer to what I need.
    Pain is (unfortunately for human beings) the greatest catalyst for change and evolution. In the heart of every moment of suffering is the kernel of a necessary lesson that you haven’t learned yet.
    Emotional pain is simply the difference between our expectations/wants/desires and Reality. When we get cool with what IS, the pain goes away.
    “…for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”
    – Hamlet

    • Mojeaux

      I have been wondering quite a lot during the last year if this mortal existence is hell, or at least purgatory, from some previous life.

      Then someone else told me Milton already covered that territory and I haven’t actually been arsed to look it up.

      • Fourscore

        Sometimes it’s heaven,sometimes it’s hell
        Sometimes I don’t even know
        Sometimes I take it as far as I can
        Sometimes I don’t even go
        My front tracks are headed for a cold water well
        My back tracks are covered in snow
        Sometimes it’s heaven,sometimes it’s hell
        Sometimes I don’t even know
        Heaven ain’t walking a street paved with gold
        Hell ain’t a mountain of fire
        Heaven is laying in my sweet baby’s arms
        Hell is when my baby’s not there
        My front tracks are headed for a cold water well
        My back tracks are covered in snow
        Sometimes it’s heaven,sometimes it’s hell
        Sometimes I don’t even know
        Sometimes it’s heaven,sometimes it’s hell
        Sometimes I don’t even know

      • CPRM

        ^This

    • westernsloper

      ??

    • Tundra

      Fuck yeah.

  31. Hyperion

    “Klobuchar, 5’4”, claims to be same height as Jefferson”

    George Jefferson?

    Anyway, that makes her at least a foot taller than Bloomberg.

    • Fourscore

      Well, it said James Madison on the cue card but without her glasses

  32. RAHeinlein

    These responses demonstrate why food diaries/recall cannot be trusted.

    • Mojeaux

      ^^^ gospel truth

    • Nephilium

      My calorie tracking has been on point for any day I’m counting since August (35+ pounds down).

      Then there’s the girlfriend’s “tracking”…

      • Tres Cool

        Ive noticed my clothes fitting “differently” lately, and despite adhering to the same low-carb Ive been doing since Aug 2018, put myself on the scale for the 1st time in months.
        Yep- I need to reacquaint myself with Mr Elliptical. I got 10 lbs back.

      • Nephilium

        I weigh in daily. The shame of the larger numbers is one of the things that pushed me into dropping the weight (the other was not wanting to need to buy new larger pants).

        I have set myself a new goal for the spin class I go to. I’ve learned they max out the RPM reports at 149 RPM, and it looks like the max power report has a high limit of 800. Last two classes I’ve hit new highs (756 and 783 watts), so I want to see if there is a cap for max watts at 800. If for no other reason then to see if I can get yelled at in a class for pointing out that max (like I did for the RPM one).

      • Chafed

        ?

      • Count Potato

        go you!

      • Nephilium

        Thanks. Looking forward to hitting the goal (should be soon), just to back off the tracking for a bit. My plan at that point is to stick with the weigh ins daily, and if I hit 5 lbs over the goal, back to the diet again. If I can stick at the weight for a month or so, I may look at dropping some more (depending on my body fat percentage).

  33. CPRM

    Going to visit my brother’s family tomorrow before I start the new job Monday. I think when my nieces ask me what I’m going to be doing I’ll say that I will watch all the video from The Elf on The Shelf for Santa to see who is being naughty. I mean, it’s basically the truth.

    • Festus

      Big eyes incoming! That’s awesome!

    • Festus

      Seriously, everyone needs an Uncle like that!

      • Fourscore

        If I adopt CPRM you’ll have a brother. Win-win, except for CPRM

      • Festus

        I promise to be a kind and diligent protector of my little brother, Mrs. Cleaver. You’re looking lovely today!

    • Jarflax

      Oh crap you took a job with NSA?

      • westernsloper

        He took a job as an Alexa monitor for Amazon.

      • mikey

        Alexa: Tell CPRM mikey says Hi!

    • Tres Cool

      You got a job with Pr0nhub?

  34. Hyperion

    since I stopped drinking alcohol, I am turning into a tea addict. Every evening. Damn tea junkie. Fuck. Chamomile and Valerian, and all sorts of weird herbs. Shit is got me all strung out man!

    • MikeS

      Stopped drinking alcohol? I can’t even. Somebody do something.

      • Hyperion

        I’m hoping there’s not an intervention.

      • westernsloper

        I think many of us here have stopped drinking at one point or another in our lives. Then many of us decided it was a bad idea.

      • MikeS

        Yeah, I did it for a moth once some years back. Just because I wanted to be sure I could. I could, and haven’t since.

      • DEG

        Yep.

      • Chafed

        That’s how you get your Glib card revoked.

    • Festus

      When I don’t drink I drink lotsa tea. Mostly orange pekoe. Hell on the dentures.

      • Hyperion

        I’m starting to recognize other strung out tea junkies on the streets now. Could be the orange pekoe stained dentures I guess, or just the burnt out dead eye stare…

      • Festus

        Sounds about right…

      • Nephilium

        My dad got into tea late in life after moving on from coffee. My niece was working at a Teavana (before the buyout by Starbucks), and my dad stopped in and asked for a pound of tea.

        My niece explained that was more then he would use in a long time…

      • Hyperion

        I love coffee, in the mornings. Tea not so much, but it gives me something to do when I’m not drinking beer.

      • Nephilium

        Unsweetened iced tea or seltzer are my beverages of choice for when I’m not drinking alcohol. I’ll easily go through a gallon of either in a day without trying.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        that was more then he would use in a long time

        I have bought tea in 5 lb. bags before, and regularly buy it in 1 lb. bags – Russian Caravan, for iced tea that I drink all day long, all summer long.

        (you go through twice as much for iced).

      • Rhywun

        My problem with (iced) tea is it’s just another vehicle for vodka.

      • westernsloper

        Name one beverage that is not a vehicle for vodka.

      • MikeS

        Milk

      • RAHeinlein

        Dude…

      • MikeS

        Just sayin’

      • Nephilium

        MikeS:

        Really, dude, or dudarino if you’re not into the whole brevity thing.

      • MikeS

        Neph; I’m well aware of White Russians and other drinks that include milk and cream, but that wasn’t the question posed.

      • Festus

        *remembers buddy pouring vodka into a glass of milk and downing it, gags a little*

      • Rhywun

        oh lord

      • Plinker762

        Just needs a touch of Kahlua

      • westernsloper

        Exactly what a white russian bot would say.

      • MikeS

        ??

      • Count Potato

        orange pekoe is a size, not a type of tea

      • Festus

        I just read the box, Mr. Tea Pedant.

  35. Count Potato

    Greg Gutfeld just played JB’s cat video 🙂

    • Hyperion

      Wait… what cat video?

    • Hyperion

      I’m looking forward to the SF article starring Bloomturd and Hilldawg. Should be epic.

      • Tres Cool

        Bloomers knows she’s infinitely more electable than he is alone; but he has the money. And she’s still too gun-shy from the cunt-punt she got in 2016 from Darth Cheeto to run on her own.
        So why not 2 great tastes that taste great together…..a teaser headline just to try and gauge reaction?

        DU and the MSM is their focus group.

  36. Yusef drives a Kia

    Hello, Went to my #2 Grandsons Birthday party this afternoon, and it was quite nice, tons of kids, from micro machines to #1, my Boy Deegan. All of my in laws were there, with much hugging all around, sweet, but awkward for me, sorry. OTOH a lot of of Destine’s friends from childhood were there, after all, Wendy was their Mom, and those are the best hugs, My girls.
    Then I said, I need to play, or I’ll get stale, and went out and shot a 30, three over, good for me, it felt good.

    • Rhywun

      ?

    • Festus

      Good to hear!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I have been showering daily, I did the dishes today, and 2 loads of laundry, life goes on, and those chores gave me some satisfaction in a way

    • CPRM

      Hugs from anyone but a partner or a child are always awkward. OMWC gets to double dip with each hug from SP.

      • MikeS

        I’m a huger. I’m happy to give and receive them.

      • Chafed

        “I’m a huger.”

        We’re not talking about your erection.

      • MikeS

        Hey! Mouth hugs* count, too!

        *receiving only, thank you

      • Lord Digby: Elitist SCUBA

        So….catching, then?

      • MikeS

        Not that kind of receiving!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        since it’s a once in a lifetime thing, I allow it, it’s about them more than me, and it’s appreciated, other Than the oldest Grandkid, they don’t know, so it’s all Papa hugs, those are cool. Destines friends are heartbroke, and love me much, so I can dig their love, nice ladies,

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Oh, Don’t touch me, Wendy wasn’t allowed to touch my face,
        /FREAK

      • UnCivilServant

        I fully understand that sentiment.

      • MikeS

        Even if they have gloves on?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I had to break isolation to kiss Wendy goodbye, Fuck it,
        /no gloves

      • Jarflax

        Are we talking 14 oz. or 16 oz. gloves?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        @ Jar, I have no idea, even if it’s a weighting deal I don’t know what the rating is,
        But Vegas and Coronavirus freaked me out, many Chinee there,

      • MikeS

        Yusef, Jar was riffing on my comment. He’s referring to boxing gloves.

      • Jarflax

        Yeah Yusef, I missed the context and was just playing on Mike’s comment to UCS.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        don’t mind Yusef, he’s Drunk….

      • MikeS

        I’m so glad you’re getting some flesh and blood love and affection. You have us, but everybody needs a human touch* now and again.

        *paging Ted

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        So much this, I needed some hugs, you guys rock, but IRL is better, Hayek was there with me that night, and her voice was very welcome, it helped me get through,

      • MikeS

        She is the definition of “sweetheart”.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Damn Skippy Mein Froind!

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        With a side-order of “kaboom!”

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Slumbrew, the worst part for me, is she looks like Wendy,
        Hawt! But I can’t look at her that way, not cool,

    • Spudalicious

      Good to hear it, Yusef. Time to keep yourself busy and surrounded by friends and family.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I have a list, and an order, then I can figure out my next move,
        Which may involve opening up my Terrain building shop….

    • westernsloper

      Good to hear. Family is good!

    • DEG

      This is good.

  37. Akira

    Has anyone ever heard of bicameralism in psychology? I might order that foundational book that the article talks about. It sounds like a really interesting read whether it’s correct or not.

    • Festus

      I’ve heard of it but human psychology just seems so much angels and pinheads. Interesting, to be sure but nothing that I’d want to base an ethos upon.

    • CPRM

      Jaynes built a case for this hypothesis that human brains existed in a bicameral state until as recently as 3,000 years ago by citing evidence from many diverse sources including historical literature. He took an interdisciplinary approach, drawing data from many different fields.[3] Jaynes asserted that, until roughly the times written about in Homer’s Iliad, humans did not generally have the self-awareness characteristic of consciousness as most people experience it today.

      Sounds like bullshit. How could any of civilization have happened if no one was self-aware? Much less art we’ve found from Neanderthals.

      • Jarflax

        Well they may not have had the self obsessed aspect we have today. Mostly because you’d get stabbed if you acted that way.

      • CPRM

        And he’s using extant writing as an example, most of which are government documents. Yeah, those are known for introspection

      • Rhywun

        The book presents the Sumerian language as the firmware programming language for the brainstem, which is supposedly functioning as the BIOS for the human brain. etc. etc. etc.

        Jeez, I’ve read Snow Crash three or four times and I still don’t remember that stuff. I mostly just remember the cool stuff like the skater chick and the rat things.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        maybe it’s me but, meh..
        RedHeads please!

      • MikeS

        Here you go, buddy. NSFW

      • MikeS
      • Yusef drives a Kia

        yeeeeas

      • Festus

        She is incredibly fine but she looks just like a friend’s daughter so I just can’t.

      • Tundra
      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        This one.

        I love me some glasses.

      • westernsloper

        Oh my

    • Festus

      There’s my little garden gnome! Why is she sitting out on the rubbish bins?

      • MikeS

        She was told that milk jugs go in the green container.

      • Festus

        I was trying to re-ignite the “garbage/trash” debate but your comment made me sensibly chuckle.

      • MikeS

        As the protagonist of that debate, I feel shame for not picking up on it. My memory is garbage.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      I say, oops…..

    • straffinrun

      Practice makes perfect.

    • CPRM

      Lots of progs just got wet.

      • Lord Digby: Elitist SCUBA

        “Moist”. For those types, let’s go with “moist”.

    • Playa Manhattan

      If they’re lying about that, they’re definitely lying about the state of their economy.

      China’s Central Bank pumped about $120 billion into the market last week (that they admitted to), but it’s not going to keep up forever.

      • Playa Manhattan

        I have some Feb 21 puts on the CSI 300, but I should probably roll them. The communist way is to deny until you get caught, and the result is a delay in consequences, but they’re much much worse.

  38. straffinrun

    Weekend officially begins! ?

    • commodious spittoon

      DDG says it’s Sunday afternoon.

      • straffinrun

        Weekends are a social construct。

    • Playa Manhattan

      Week of vacation. Our schools let out for a week in Feb. Ima ski for part of it, put there’s a lot of warm and sunny weather to deal with.

      • straffinrun

        We’re going next week. Dog days of winter. ?

    • DEG

      Heh.

    • CPRM

      So, um…are you planning on bringing your daughter to Honey Harvest? Asking, for a friend…

  39. slumbrew - double secret satan

    Finally getting around to watching Stranger Things.

    Damn, Winona Ryder has held up well.

    • Playa Manhattan

      How far in are you?

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Halfway through S01E01 – so, not far.

      • Playa Manhattan

        You’ll have the urge to binge watch…. probably around the 3rd or 4th episode

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Probably; I suspect my wife won’t be interested, but we’ll see – it’d be easier to binge if she is.

      • Festus

        Be forewarned – the kids get more annoying as they grow older and the plot moves further. Winona stays fine throughout.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Yah, I’ve seen that one kid in commercials and whatnot – precocious kids are my least favorite trope.

      • Festus

        It didn’t help that while were bingeing it we also watched the new adaptation of “It”.

  40. Lord Digby: Elitist SCUBA

    Xenu comin’

    ?

    • MikeS

      I haven’t seen Baked Penguin for a while. Is he still about?

    • Rhywun

      *ahem* I believe it’s “Zenu”.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        It’s Xinu

      • Rhywun

        Zima?

      • Festus

        I think we already got “Lemme see’m titties!” just North in the comments.

  41. straffinrun

    The slam dunk contest is just boring at this point. Every dunk that can be done has been done. Sure, they can do it a little better, but it’s not what it used to be.

    • Festus

      I loathe “All-Star” games. Everyone going through the motions because nobody wants to get hurt. Just shorten the regular season by a week or two instead of this inane circle-jerk.

      • straffinrun

        They play 82 games, so giving them a weekend to take off isn’t terrible. The three point contest is fun still. The QB skills challenge is a good watch. But yeah, the games themselves are worthless.

      • Rhywun

        You say that, but believe it or not MLS has actually taken the idea and made it worse. Every year they invite some team from Europe to come kick their ass. It’s embarrassing.

      • straffinrun

        Uh, that’s about the worst idea I’ve ever heard.

  42. CPRM

    I have no doubt I can do the job I’ve been hired to do, but damn I’m still nervous as hell. I’m already prone to panic attacks; starting a new job, more hours than I’ve had to do in a long time, how those hours interact with my off-time activities like drinking, cartooning and freelance work; general dislike of change and new environments. But also how the more money can make those things better. Feels like the first day of school I have nightmares about all over. I hope I don’t go to work in nothing but my underwear.

    • slumbrew - double secret satan

      If it makes you feel better, I think everyone feels that way when approaching a new job.

      Everyone that cares, at least. I imagine people who don’t give a shit about their jobs may not.

    • Tundra

      Change is good. You may find that the new lifestyle suits you better.

      In my experience, the more money thing sure helps knock down the anxiety. Like I said to LCDR_Fish, you are young. Plenty of time for changes.

      You are a talented and smart dude. Go get it.

    • Festus

      Don’t feel too bad. I go back after a month away next week and I snapped awake last night, sure that I’d forgotten all my codes. After seven years.

      • Rhywun
      • Festus

        What I mean to say is that the mind is a strange, terrible and wondrous place (much like Glibertaria). You’ll do fine, C.

    • straffinrun

      Ka-ching. That’s what it’s all about.

    • commodious spittoon

      I felt that way for awhile going into the job I’m doing now. But I learned the secret to being a key employee: blame the engineers for everything.