The Veto Party: Vote BangingLC1 2020

by | Feb 25, 2020 | Executive Branch, Politics | 416 comments

The Veto Party.

This past year I finally hit the age requirement for running for President of these here “United” States. Now, I could try running as a Libertarian. But, I have a different idea. I actually came up with this idea many years ago, back in high school when I identified as a conservative Republican (I’d argue I was always libertarian, I just didn’t know how to label myself quite yet). Yes, this year I am running for President in affiliation with my self-created party, the Veto Party.

The Veto Party’s philosophy is simple. All bills that make it to my desk as President will be vetoed regardless of their content. It does not matter if I hate the bill, if I agree with the bill, the popularity of the bill, or the importance of the bill. It will be vetoed. If it is important enough that it needs pass, Congress can do so with two-thirds of its members. Yes, I know many awful bills will still pass, but if I can slow the onslaught even one iota, I think that would be best.

Now, an idea I have toyed with, is signing all bills that make the government smaller or increase liberty. I, however, have my doubts about even making this exception. It takes away from the simplicity of the party and the entire philosophy. It occurs to me that if I make this one exception, that it could lead to a slippery slope of other exceptions in the future. Please feel free to argue the pros and cons of this in the comments, I might even read them, but I reserve the right to veto any suggestion.

TL;DR

Veto Party Platform: Veto Everything.

Presidential Candidate: BangingLC1

“As unstable as I am, I’m still better than the alternatives!” – BLC1

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416 Comments

  1. Rhywun

    I like it.

    • Rhywun

      I also agree with your reservations about making any exceptions. KISS.

      PS. You will never, ever receive a bill to make the government smaller or increase liberty, so there’s that I guess.

      • LemonGrenade

        Seconded on both counts. Veto party is cool; exceptions are worthless.

  2. Old Man With Candy

    Oh, here it is.

    • UnCivilServant

      I knew you’d find it.

      • Old Man With Candy

        That’s what my parents said about my penis.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Were they right?

      • Old Man With Candy

        Sorry for the delay answering, I was in my bunk. What was the question again?

  3. Bill Door

    Count me in.

    Write in BangingLC1!

  4. Not Adahn

    I haven’t been this excited about a political party since the Meadow Party back in ’88.

    • Spudalicious

      You’ve got my vote.

      Currently sitting at the Bar at the Peppermill in Reno drinking a Smokey old fashioned.

      • Spudalicious

        Dammit.

      • Not Adahn

        I am trying to close out February as light as possible, or I’d be working on perfecting my Old Fashioned variant.

        Instead I’m drinking Few rye. I haven’t had a decent night’s sleep in two weeks, so I’m trying to ethanolicaly induce a coma.

      • Sean

        As in put in the little smoke chamber glass thingy and smoke flavor infused?

      • Spudalicious

        Yep. You get the smoke on the first two sips. Pretty gimmicky but a good cocktail. Vanilla syrup instead of sugar.

      • KSuellington

        Whatcha upta in Reno Spud? I kinda love that town, one of my best friends moved there years ago, I’m actually going this weekend to visit and ski with him for a couple days. If you don’t already know Louis’ Basque Corner you should. Thank me later.

  5. hayeksplosives

    My brother jokingly ran for office on the premise that he’d pass no laws, only repeal laws.

    Of course, same brother also toyed with running for state Attorney General on the grounds that he’d put more criminals in jail than the District Attorney. Only problem with that strategy was that he’d been the public defender whilst “putting those criminals behind bars.”

    • Lord Digby declares Victory

      Ooh….that stings a bit. Did he, at least, promise to keep his focus on government criminals.

      ‘Cause, I might be inclined to move, if that were the case. I’d have to invest a metric shite-tonne in popcorn, but, it’d be epic.

  6. Sean

    What’s the Veto party’s stance on tranny bathrooms?

    • Not Adahn

      Veto?

      • banginglc1

        Correct

    • Rhywun

      Asking for a friend?

    • Spudalicious

      Veto.

    • Not Adahn

      Huh. I never noticed before that the elbow stripes have changed.

    • Not Adahn

      Also, no matter how bad Alan Alda was, you’ve got to credit the writers of M*A*S*H for recognizing the greatest comedy team of all time.

  7. Rhywun

    LOL now the moderators are piling on Bloomberg.

    • Old Man With Candy

      The fix is totally not in.

      • Not Adahn

        It is a congressional Black caucus sponsored debate, isn’t it?

      • Winston

        Which CBC is worse? Congressional Black Caucus or Canadians Broadcasting Corporation?

      • The Last American Hero

        The propaganda station from the largest socialist country in the Western Hemisphere (by land area).

      • Rhywun

        Yeah, and the pandering is off the charts.

    • Rhywun

      Third question in a row from the moderators attacking Bloomberg. Wow.

  8. Old Man With Candy

    One Word Shouter versus Random Gibberish Generator tonight.

  9. UnCivilServant

    So you’d veto the repeal of oppressive laws?

  10. banginglc1

    Yes. And as They says above, that won’t happen, so it will have no effect.

    • banginglc1

      Sorry, that was for UCS above

    • UnCivilServant

      Political party platforms make my mind foggy.

      Plus I’m doing dishes, so there’s a good chance I skimmed the content.

  11. hayeksplosives

    Phil mickelson is a multimillionaire who genuinely seems to have a great time golfing, win or lose.

    What a life!

    • Ted S.

      He’d have a better time if he were golfing right-handed.

    • Florida Man

      I wonder if I had Played golf as a youth if I would have been good. I went with my wife’s uncle last year, never having swung a golf club Before and was out driving him and his friends. I got an eagle on the third hole. Imagine if I had lessons. Oh well, such as life.

      • Trigger Hippie

        I’ve confirmed that I am in fact a shitty golfer.

        Hell, I’ve been playing disc golf far longer than Yusef and he already easily outscores me. Guess I’m shitty at that too. Of course, it helps if one actually cares about improving. I’m just there for the fresh air and exercise.

      • Florida Man

        That was probably why I did well. I was just having fun and these guys are “serious golfers”. Probably doesn’t hurt that I’m 20 years younger too. ?

      • Trigger Hippie

        I think I’m fifteen to twenty years younger than Bob so I have no excuses.

        Ha!

    • The Last American Hero

      You know what they say about Phil and his wife?

      With his wife, the boobs are fake but the smile is real, and it’s the opposite with Phil.

      • Chafed

        Harsh.

    • Old Man With Candy

      The old joke: why is Mickelson different than his wife? The smile is phony and the tits are real.

  12. Sean

    I put the DNC debates for less than 5 minutes.

    I had to switch back to Tucker. My gf was getting…mmm…a bit too upset. Yelling at the tv and such.

    ?

    • hayeksplosives

      Put a ring on it.

      • Sean

        *ahem*

        I don’t need the state or church to sanction our love.

        We’ve exchanged weaponry and have a mortgage together. In Glibertopia, we’re already wed.

        ?

      • hayeksplosives

        K, but buy her a ring anyway.

      • Not Adahn

        I had a garter made for my favorite tango partner. Putting it on her was fun.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        my favorite tango partner

        Not exactly a spoof-title like those from last night, but it works.

      • grrizzly

        No need to marry, unless you get tax benefits.

      • Sean

        No tax benefits. Though I reserve the right to get married when we retire and have nothing else to do.

        You all are invited if that happens.

        We’ll register at sgammo and Trijicon.

      • DEG

        Excellent.

      • Not Adahn

        If I find out you got married without announcing it here I will be quite peeved.

    • straffinrun

      Just put in on myself. It’s fun.

      • hayeksplosives

        What—put on the ring or the DNC debates??

      • Florida Man

        He means a cock ring. Don’t encourage him by giving him attention.

      • Fourscore

        He meant a garter. Probably a fashion trend, over there.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Fashionable when used as a cock ring.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        a cock ring

        a cock ring

        Wow….this is, like 75-80% more cock ring mentions than normal.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        Based on the pic, I can’t imagine why…

  13. Fourscore

    …and retroactively sunset all current laws? The new proposals are bad enough but the old ones have got us in the trouble we’re having now.

    Veto and Retroactive Sunset Party and I’d even start voting again.

  14. straffinrun

    Tom Steyer is going for the non Socialist, pro social/racial/environmental justice vote. I hope that one voter chooses him.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      How that shithead managed to accumulate so much money with such a tenuous grasp on reality is beyond me. At least with Bloomberg you can see a spark of intelligence and drive.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        a spark of intelligence

        Yes; much like MCP, or, the Matrix.

      • one true athena

        Wasn’t part of it hedge funds (operated by others, I’m sure) and a giant coal mine in southeast asia somewhere?

        My favorite part of his ‘policy ideas’ is how he made tons of money off the things he wants to kill for others. My, how convenient, Tom.

  15. DEG

    Sorry, I’m voting for Almanian.

    • banginglc1

      I am too

      • hayeksplosives

        why is SMOD not an option?

    • hayeksplosives

      Truly sad part is that Alamanian is probably going to cast a vote for which his corporeal form would never have supported.

      I miss him.

      • hayeksplosives

        To clarify, I’m talking about voter fraud.

        “ probably going to cast a vote”

      • DEG

        I know what you meant.

        I miss Almanian too. RIP.

      • Gustave Lytton

        *pours out box of ballots on ground for Almanian!*

    • The Last American Hero

      Kmele 2020.

      • Chafed

        This guy gets it.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        This guy gets it.

        Fortunately (or, unfortunately), the “Yeah–good ‘n’ hard” joke doesn’t really fit in that scenario.

  16. straffinrun

    Bloomberg: “All the democrats that came in in 2018, I bought…uh, got them in.”

  17. straffinrun

    “150 billion people have been killed since Bernie 2007 when Bernie voted to exempt gun manufacturers from liability.”

    That is verbatim.

    • straffinrun

      /Biden

      • Not Adahn

        To clarify:

        Do you mean “verbatim” as in “a transcript made by a disinterested English speaker would document this” or “verbatim” as in “literally?”

      • straffinrun

        Totally.

    • leon

      Which Biden is that? Three one running for Senate?

  18. Winston

    https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/terence-corcoran-the-blockades-are-a-clash-over-socialism-not-indigenous-rights-and-climate-change

    The blockades themselves are an ideological construct designed to help the radical left, socialists and agglomerations of anti-capitalists to impose a new economic model on Canada — and the rest of the world.

    The Indigenous aspect is also manufactured, with whole communities manipulated into fronting for the radical objectives of New Green Dealers, whose aim is to shut down the world’s major energy system and usher in the next paradise of equality and clean prosperity via state takeover.

    Turdeau Jr is pushing through the Leap manifesto beloved by Naomi Klein

    • Winston

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_Manifesto

      Initial signatories to the Manifesto include actors Donald Sutherland, Rachel McAdams, Ellen Page, Sarah Polley, and documentary filmmaker Avi Lewis; musicians Neil Young, Leonard Cohen, and Alanis Morissette; and writers William Gibson, Naomi Klein and Michael Ondaatje, along with environmental groups and labour union members including former Canadian Union of Public Employees president Paul Moist.[1] The document calls for a restructuring of the Canadian economy and an end to the use of fossil fuels.

      • Bill Door

        Great. Let them freeze to death in Canada with their “clean energy.”

        Wait, what’s that you say, most of these actors and musicians have homes in sunny California? Huh, who’da thunk it. The impact on them will be minimal.

      • Rhywun

        Fucking commies, the lot of them.

      • Bill Door

        They’d just as soon have the plebs live in squalor in the Stone Age. Of course, they don’t think they’ll be impacted by it, which is another reason the majority of these commie celebs are dumb as a box of rocks.

      • creech

        I wonder if tar sands rich Alberta would simply secede and ask to become a U.S. state?

      • juris imprudent

        So, about 20 brain cells – combined.

  19. hayeksplosives

    Alright, I’m taking a little heat for a glib Facebook post.

    A lady had posted a photo of hideous fake fingernails that would absolutely proclaim “I don’t do anything useful” on a neighborhood based site.

    Her question: “ Best nail place for thin square nails?”

    My reply: “The furthest corner of the known universe. Preferably with no human attached.”

    Apparently the local spoiled trash of Escondido don’t like that answer.

    • leon

      My you know how to make friends

      • hayeksplosives

        Aye, I know how to filter them.

      • leon

        A vital part of the process. Coming out to Dugway anytime soon?

      • hayeksplosives

        Maybe in March. I’ll hit you up if so.

      • Bill Door

        Are you Tooele county, Leon? My wife’s brother and his family are in Erda.

      • leon

        I am. Erda is a nice little town, and is nicely situated near the amenities of Tooele, but still get the rural vibe.

      • Bill Door

        Yep. It helps that he’s a VP at an engineering firm in SLC and can afford to live there.

        I have a buddy from Tooele. He didn’t like it when I joked about him glowing in the dark.

      • Bill Door

        I actually really like that area, though.

      • Rhywun

        Tooley? Toil??

      • Bill Door

        Too-ill-uh.

      • hayeksplosives

        Again I recommend Wikipedia article “Dugway Sheep Incident”

        I have no doubt that Dugway/Tooele/skull Valley have physically harmed me permanently.

      • Rhywun

        Ah, of course. ?

      • hayeksplosives

        2 Ella.

      • leon

        Re: Glowing. Haha. Yeah some people are touchy about it.

      • leon

        Yeah… Don’t kick up the dirt at Dugway.

      • Bill Door

        I’m sure of it too. He takes a few minutes to take a joke. Heck of a good guy, though.

      • Bill Door

        Rhyming, welcome to the world of Utah names.

        Another gem is Mantua. Any guesses on how to say that one?

      • Bill Door

        Gah, damn autocorrect. Rhywun, not rhyming.

      • Rhywun

        Man-TOO-uh? Probably not, too obvious.

      • Bill Door

        That would be too on the nose. It’s “Manna-way”.

        Now you know.

    • straffinrun

      Cat fight. Keep it light no matter how much they freak out.

      • hayeksplosives

        She replied “OK…” and I replied “to each his/her own. I hope you get great service from the salon you choose.”

      • Trigger Hippie

        Switching off Glibmode for the normies is a bitch, ain’t it?

      • Not Adahn

        Huh. I have the opposite problem — keeping the “real world” out of here.

      • hayeksplosives

        Yeah, I really should take some psychology classes and learn to deal.

        Or the Normies can just lump it.

      • Rhywun

        I solved this conundrum by dropping all other social media (are we social media…?).

      • Trigger Hippie

        Anti-social backwater, thank you very much.

        *flips Rhy the bird*

      • hayeksplosives

        I think we are sorta social media— we are a community with sufficient distance that we feel safe to share.

        But we aren’t social media in a self serving and signaling way.

        We want what happens in Glibs to stay in Glibs, not go viral.

      • Rhywun

        We want what happens in Glibs to stay in Glibs, not go viral.

        That’s a good way to put it.

      • UnCivilServant

        CAn you imagine the damage the Glib Virus would do?

      • Trigger Hippie

        ‘CAn you imagine the damage the Glib Virus would do?’

        Well we have already infected the Babylon Bee, so…

      • Trigger Hippie

        Maybe a bit of both? It sometimes hits me throughout the course of the day that I’m probably pissing some people off. And it pains me to say, I usually don’t care. I’ll address the fact that I might be coming off as a dick and apologize if I’ve upset them, but I’m also usually thinking to myself that if they weren’t being so vapid or generally nonchalant about work or their surroundings, I wouldn’t be so irritated.

        People piss me off, a lot. But goddamn, being annoyed all the time is exhausting and ultimately unproductive. That’s what I tell myself, it still hasn’t taken root.

      • Rhywun

        I’m a bit of an introvert so I rarely piss anyone off, mostly by just not talking to them.

      • Trigger Hippie

        I lean introverted myself. But I think the way I look and my demeanor along with being relatively quiet comes off as hostility. I also tend not to smile much in public. I think that puts a lot of people on egg shells with me and they’ll take things I say as being more negative than I intend them to be. It’s on me to do my best to clarify.

    • Mojeaux

      Well, XX TD said something in class today that got her dirty glares and she’s upset about it. Topic: “Is stoned driving better or worse than drunk driving?” or something like that. I don’t know how it was worded. So she says, “It’s not as bad as drunk driving because I looked up the research.”

      So she approached me with it. “So, Mom, is stoned driving worse than drunk driving?” Me: “Equally bad. That’s why we can’t have nice things.”

      Then she started to cry, and it finally came out that the people giving her dirty looks are tight and are always trying to gate-keep Those Who Do Not RightThink. She’s not upset about being “wrong,” per se, but upset about being essentially fenced in as to what she can say without getting a bunch of people down her throat.

      Me: Look, it’s all bad. When you’re driving a 3,000-pound death machine, it really doesn’t matter HOW you’re impaired, just THAT you’re impaired. Drunk, stoned, tired, texting, GI bleed that makes you dizzy and you’re stumbling all over the place. The stats don’t care.

      I reminded her that my cousin’s husband is a paraplegic because he went out on an icy morning when he hadn’t slept all night. No drugs. Just tired.

      Anyway, all that is to say that generally, she is part of the out group because she does not RightThink.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        I’d rather be the stoner’s passenger, not that either of you asked.

      • Mojeaux

        I’m just sad I have to tell her to watch her mouth lest she end up all over the internet and her life in ruins.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Hop on in! Hope you’re not in a hurry.

        /never had a speeding ticket.

  20. leon

    I would vote for but you’d be impeached and removed before your first term.

  21. RAHeinlein

    Tom Steyer – the only person on this stage who supports reparations.

    • straffinrun

      He’s ornery tonight. About what? I dunno.

      • RAHeinlein

        Last chance to play with the big kids? Just learned that Bloomberg increased life expectancy by THREE YEARS during his time as mayor.

      • straffinrun

        Heard that. Can’t possibly be true, can it?

      • RAHeinlein

        Makes sense – live longer and keep our rent-controlled apartment for the next generation. Loved Bernie’s proposal to create black, Latino, and native American businesses to sell marijuana.

      • Rhywun

        Complete fucking horseshit.

    • The Last American Hero

      Buttjudge came out for them a few weeks ago.

  22. robc

    In 2016, i did surgery on the sticker, changing it to “I vetod”. Not exactly the right spelling, but close enough.

    A few people at work noticed.

    • hayeksplosives

      Noice

  23. straffinrun

    Bloomberg praising Trump’s policies towards the military.

    • RAHeinlein

      Holy crap – Biden saved “millions of lives” on Ebola b/c it didn’t get here.

      • straffinrun

        The cure for corona virus is out there in the head of some child and Klobochar is going to fucking get it out of him.

      • RAHeinlein

        Biden just burned a trans-fatty cell…

      • straffinrun

        He’s ornery too. Imma stay off his lawn.

      • RAHeinlein

        Uh-oh, Bernie’s going after Obama’s Cuba comments. Don’t make Biden call Jay-Z and Bey on this.

  24. Rhywun

    Finally, they’re piling on Sanders, a bit. Well, Biden is.

    • straffinrun

      Pocahontas is suspiciously quiet during all this.

      • Rhywun

        Thank God.

      • Chafed

        She’s eyeing a cabinet post.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Which one is in charge of beads, trade blankets, and firewater?

      • Jarflax

        BIA

  25. hayeksplosives

    Putin is pouring extra vodka shots with his comrades as they watch the US implode.

    • RAHeinlein

      Lots of Cossack dancing tonight.

    • Rhywun

      It’s utterly bonkers, and the MSM are complicit in it.

      • straffinrun

        I feel their anger rising. *Leans back in chair*

  26. Timeloose

    The constant gotcha approach to debates has become tiresome. I feel like we turned our politicians in to 14 year olds trying to get the perfect burn on Twitter.

    I’d prefer a simple Jane you ignorant slut.

    • Trigger Hippie

      Bob Dole’s golden opportunity gone to waste.

  27. straffinrun

    We have to… we must … we’ve got to…

    Pocahontas starts every answer this way. She sounds like a psycho.

    • RAHeinlein

      On day one…the first thing…build a coalition…I’m the only one…it starts with…

  28. straffinrun

    Commercial break. Shout out to RH, Rhy and Timeloose. What kind of libertarian board is this where only a few of us are providing commentary on the debate?

    • leon

      Hey now.

      I’ll listen to the Lions of Liberty wrap up of it.

      • straffinrun

        I like to see the debate before I get it filtered down to me even if the filter is someone I like.

    • UnCivilServant

      Why should I watch them bicker when they’ve already made their intent clear, and any lowlights will be plastered all over the ‘news; sites for days?

      • straffinrun

        Hot takes? They are quoting the bible now. Doesn’t get any better.

    • mikey

      You expect us to watch this shit? I’ll just sit back and enjoy the snark – they could be a little more productive with it though.

    • Timeloose

      I’m not watching shit. I’m commenting on why I don’t want to watch them.

    • Urthona

      No one is watching. This is America.

    • Tulip

      We’re free riding on your labor. Sounds libertarian to me

    • grrizzly

      I’ve been watching the Bruins game. Plus, I’m 35k feet above ground. A couple of minutes of the debate that I happened to watch during an intermission were disgusting enough.

    • Rhywun

      I caught maybe a grand total of five minutes. Thing is, every time you flip over, what they are saying is so outrageous it’s impossible not to comment on it.

    • Bill Door

      I come here for the commentary, not to have to watch hot garbage myself.

    • Trigger Hippie

      I’m already pissy. Watching it in real time would just cause me to lose sleep. My thirst for cringey schadenfreude has been pretty low recently. As others have expressed, just knowing the fact that roughly half the voters will pull the lever for any of them is kinda depressing. The (R)s are the (R)s, and my confidence in there being a political reset to some sense of sanity in the long term is middling at best.

      /Debbie Downer

    • DEG

      I have better things to do than watch a bunch of overgrown children try to score points against each other.

    • Chafed

      Sorry. I was working.

  29. straffinrun

    I declare Klobochar the winner. (Trump technically, but…) She kept pressing the point that “We need someone who does X”. She almost never says what she’ll do, but what this mythical person will do. Interesting strategy.

    • Don Escaped ORD

      Today was last day to vote early for Super Tuesday in TN. We don’t have an LP primary.

      I voted against all the crazier Democratic candidates by voting for Amy. I don’t think she’ll will win or even show, but I was frustrated that there’s nothing this cycle I want to vote for. I voted against Bernie and CornPop. I registered dissent and little more.

      And I voted for court clerk. There were a dozen in the primary; one had lots of experience in the department, in accounting, and had worked for prestigious firms.

      I got a sticker.

      I went back to work.

      • straffinrun

        There can’t be anyone worth voting for on Team Blue’s stage. They’ve either directly or indirectly accepted intersectionalism. If the core is rotten, doesn’t matter what the rest of the apple looks like.

  30. robc

    I am voting for Tulsi on saturday, but they wont invite her to the debates, so why watch?

    • Charles Easterly

      “I am voting for Tulsi on saturday, but they wont invite her to the debates, so why watch?”

      I think that I understand your point of view, robc.

  31. UnCivilServant

    I need to come up with rules for revenants, but I’m also getting pretty tired.

    Maybe I’ll come up with something after some sleep.

  32. hayeksplosives

    Netflix just served me up “Untamed Romania”

    Yeah, I clicked it.

    • hayeksplosives

      Ok, the trailer/ intro has me in tears already. Time to pause and make a drink.

      Beautiful. Someone tell Pie.

      • hayeksplosives

        So glad I got the 65 inch 4K tv. I had no idea what a difference it would make.

      • straffinrun

        We just got a 55 inch TV. It’s just too big, but you probably have more distance from the TV to the couch at your place. We’ve got about 5 feet.

      • Mojeaux

        That hurt my eyeballs just reading that.

      • straffinrun

        I watch one show a week, Walking Dead. The wife and daughter dominate the TV. Muh balls are fine.

      • grrizzly

        My couch is so far from the TV set, the 3D thing with glasses no longer works. Yep, we have a large plasma TV bought in 2011, when 3D was a thing and there was no 4K.

      • hayeksplosives

        For sure distance is a part of it.

        That is why the Guggenheim museum is a shot display area for paintings.

        Guggenheim building itself is a marvel and an art work . But the spiraling stairs means the viewer of a painting can’t pause and reflect at 2 feet, 10 feet, 15 feet away and reflect on a particular work.

        Instead you can only back up maybe 4 feet and there is constant traffic pressing you onward, like cattle in a chute.

        No me gusta.

      • hayeksplosives

        “Shit display”

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        Yeah, once was enough.

        “Have you tried the Guggenheim?” (@ 1:27)

      • hayeksplosives

        I got the big tv mainly because hubby’s vision is turning to shit.

        I’m functional enough to be gobsmacked by the clarity and definition.

      • straffinrun

        You take your husband into account when making household decisions? Our house is the Galapagos of houses. I adapt or perish.

    • mikey

      “Race discrimination hurts people and is never benign,” said Civil Rights Division Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband “Unconstitutionally partitioning Americans into racial and ethnic blocs harms all involved by fostering stereotypes, bitterness, and division among the American people.”

      Who hired this guy?

      • grrizzly

        President Trump.

    • straffinrun

      Sucks to be part of that 55%. But they have to shoulder the burden of the 45% because of justice.

    • Rhywun

      Hoo-boy, bless their hearts.

    • Jarflax

      Racial quotas are disgusting, but not as disgusting as the law interfering with private enterprises making their own decisions about how they operate. Harvard shouldn’t have to bake the cake either.

      • Trigger Hippie

        ^

        It’s not like it’s exactly a state run institution either.

      • Rhywun

        If they were truly “private”, sure. No college in the US is.

      • Jarflax

        That argument gives the Feds a back door into everything. I understand it, and it makes sense, but unless we first chop the Government back so it isn’t spending money in every field I can’t go along with it.

      • straffinrun

        The govt already came in the back door, is sitting on the couch and eating your Cheetoh’s.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        came in the back door

        What, too much cock ring talk?

      • straffinrun

        Hype is right. Y’all remove parts of quotes to fit your narrative. Shame!

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        What–am I supposed to start putting words in your…

        Never mind.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        Didn’t the law get a front door with the “public accommodations” bullshit? It’s not just getting rid of money; gotta get rid of laws that destroy freedom of association.

      • grrizzly

        First, start arguing that the danger of racism is overrated. You might find cutting government spending and power trivial after that.

      • invisible finger

        Good grief, There’s no bigger advocate of “government tit” and socialism than Harvard.

      • grrizzly

        I agree, as long as we as a society stop worrying too much about racism.

        That was sarcasm. That won’t happen in the near future and your position is equivalent to endorsing racism against some races and in favor of others.

      • Jarflax

        No my position is that it is not the Government’s place to get involved. The reality is that the Government has spent much more time shoving the quotas down peoples throats than it has trying to get rid of the quotas, and as soon as another Democrat is in power it will go back to doing so. I do think that racism is an utterly overblown, and undefined concern, Government overreach on the other hand is the biggest problem we have. Is this the place to draw the line? Maybe not, but I am not setting policy just pointing out that this is the flip side of the bake the cake nonsense.

      • R C Dean

        Equal application of the law, for me. Either everyone can discriminate, or no one can.

    • Chafed

      So much for intersectionality.

    • Gustave Lytton

      You can’t fool me. That’s the first successful chimp/human hybrid.

    • Rhywun

      Yep. Who cares.

    • Chafed

      The perfect home defense weapon.

      • Jarflax

        Remind me not to move within 5 blocks of you.

    • Winston

      That was before Bush and Trump taught us how we need Democrats to rule us all.

  33. straffinrun

    Get what you pay for. ¥1000 haircut. She spins the chair around, gives me my glasses and asks me what I think as she gestures to the mirror. Hair is feathered in a way that would make 70’s Farah Fawcett jealous. Maybe I’ll rock this for a while. Or maybe there should be a law against Japanese people cutting white people’s hair.

    • Lord Digby declares Victory

      Or…maybe you can start up a “Caucasian Cuts” salon?

      You could even include a sign on the door: “Darker skin welcome”.

    • Rhywun

      $9.05

      OMG

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        But, that doesn’t include a shampoo & rinse, does it?

        DOES IT???

      • straffinrun

        10 minutes/¥1000. ¥100 a minute. They’re everywhere and vacuum your head when done.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        But, it’s not a flowbee cut, right?

      • straffinrun

        I remember that. The vacuum doesn’t cut, though. Used to suck all the loose hairs off your cheap, ill-fitting salary man suit.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        I am a hair enthusiast; in that, I’m all aboard people trying out new styles. So, I’m rather intrigued at your Farrah feathering.

      • straffinrun

        Don’t hate me because I’m pitiful. *Flips flaxen locks out of face*

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        HAWT.

        And, not just Burning Bed HAWT.

  34. one true athena

    I finally got my ballot (since i register independent I had to obtain a crossover ballot, so I picked Dem). My god what a list of clowns for president on that list. A few are already gone, a few I’ve never heard of so I don’t even know if they’re officially done or not, and then… the main six, or wherever we’re at. Think I’ll vote Tulsi just as a general fuck you to those trying to keep her down, even if I’d never vote for her in the general either. At least she’s got ONE decent policy idea.

    And let’s see Prop 13 – WE WANTS MOAR MONEY. Much like banginglc’s VETO, my philosophy of CA Ballot initiatives is basically always NO. Either it’s a bad idea, or (occasionally) a good idea but poorly written.

    • straffinrun

      Can’t vote with your feet?

      • one true athena

        My husband needs to retire and my kid get to college, then we’ll go. For now, though, nope.

    • Chafed

      I hear you OTA. I always vote no on the propositions except for the handful, if that, of times it was to lower taxes or repeal a law.

  35. Mojeaux

    OMG Warren just quoted the Bible on Twitter.

    • Jarflax

      What verse?

    • Chafed

      Did Twitter catch fire?

    • creech

      The passage about the Good Samaritan whipping out his sword and forcing other travelers to feed, clothe and provide medical care to the robbed and beaten traveler?

    • Heroic Mulatto

      I’m not sure why all of you are surprised Warren would look up to someone who beat the shit out of moneylenders.

      • Mojeaux

        It wasn’t THAT they were lending money. It was WHERE they were lending money.

        *checks username*

        Oh. HM. k, nm

      • Heroic Mulatto

        Jesus saves, but Moses invests.

      • straffinrun

        What does Mohammed do?

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        Draws interest?

    • CPRM

      I don’t want to use a product that received publicity from an xenophobic….racist

      Rishi Sunak

      *Looks at name, looks at picture haz confuse*

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        You aren’t the only one.

        Meanings have words, and they aren’t using them properly.

  36. straffinrun

    Some very old guy is laying dead on a stretched at the department store. 4 medics milling around him, but it looks like business as usual. Shoppers walking right past the scene and barely taking notice.

    • Lord Digby declares Victory

      Maybe they’re just waiting for the price to go down.

      #DayOldBread

      • Gustave Lytton

        #depachikaclosingtime

      • straffinrun

        3割

      • Gustave Lytton

        50円引

        すごい!

    • Chafed

      It’s that famous Japanese compassion.

      • straffinrun

        Polite but not compassionate. Many western countries are the opposite.

  37. CPRM

    Fat Tuesday is in the books, now no meat! Tuna sandwich lunch it is!

    • Lord Digby declares Victory

      no meat! Tuna sandwich lunch it is!

      Umm….

      • CPRM

        JESUS SAYS IT’S OK! #CatholicLife

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        But, tuna IS meat….

      • CPRM

        Fish ain’t meat! It’s doctrine, and why the filet-o-fish exists.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        why the filet-o-fish exists

        Huh….well, I’ll be.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        TIFO makes a Saturday appearance this week (or, will, once I submit it).

        Kudos!

      • Gustave Lytton

        This is why you don’t wash cottons in hot water and dry on high heat.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        Well, you do, if you want the subsequent effects on that cotton. I usually don’t.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        Also–for me, not a lack of Catechism knowledge, so much as an Oxford/pedant argument. 🙂

        /watching the video now, btw.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        Bruh, I’m in Texas–of course we fry up all that catfish. It’s just usually available all the time.

        /well, the spousal unit don’t like catfish, so…

      • CPRM

        *Sees cornmeal mix, shivers* You monsters!

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        No offense meant against beer batter, as it’s quite lovely. But, sometimes, you just want…flavor.

      • CPRM

        SHAME! NSFW, make sure no one can see the screen bud.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        You want her beer-battered??

      • Gustave Lytton

        First time I ate catfish was a day or so after arriving at Benning School for Boys in scenic Columbus, GA. The humidity just about knocked me on my ass. In October. For some reason I started gagging and ended up throwing up in the chow hall.

        No problems eating it later and frankly, I like it although it’s a bit hard to find around here. Baked, grilled, or fried, I’ll take it.

      • CPRM

        I like catfish, but I don’t like that gritty cornmeal most of it is served in.

    • Gustave Lytton

      I salute you, my old school catholic friend!

      • CPRM

        I miss Eddy. That’s pretty sad.

      • straffinrun

        I miss non neurotic Eddy.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        Sad that you miss him?? I mean, I do too, so….

        /I don’t know how to end that thought.

  38. CPRM

    Somebody quit, so after my second week I might get moved from 2nd to 3rd shift. New times, new people, possible DTs. Doesn’t sound fun. and here I thought I was making good progress so far.

    • Lord Digby declares Victory

      Is it considered busier? Or, is it a matter of, that’s where the gap in the staffing is? Do you happen to get a shift differential?

      • CPRM

        Yeah, a gap, low man. No mention of a bump. I worked nights when I was younger and liked it, but have found out that now if awake past about 2am my body might just decide it doesn’t want to sleep for 72 hrs. And when do I get to drink?! I can’t be drinking at 6:30 in the morning! That would mean I’m an alcoholic!

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        I would imagine that you’d be hearing about a differential by now, if it were a thing in the job. That said, unless your body has an underlying issue, it probably won’t take too many > 2AM situations before it adjusts.

        Sucks, yes. But, It should figure it out fairly quickly. Treat the AM beer thing like the subversive you are.

      • CPRM

        no, looking back, my bouts with insomnia were because I hadn’t observed my bodies predilections over a long enough time frame. When I was working overnights I had bouts of insomnia that went to 72 hrs. Being older and having a greater sample size, I’ve figured it out.

      • Mojeaux

        I can stay up all night as I have always been able to. I just can’t THINK or WORK all night like I used to be able to.

      • Chafed

        I have no idea what your job is CPRM. If, as you say, you may get 3rd shift because you are low man on the totem pole then it won’t last long. There’s obviously some churn in the staffing. Soon someone will be below u ou.

      • CPRM

        Yeah, I was told I might be able to stay second shift because a new hire was expected soon, but that was before we were once again down a person. If someone else volunteers to fill that shift I won’t have to move. I was told I would know by Thursday. Changes all my days off for the next month as well. good thing I’m someone who makes plans.

      • CPRM

        *NOT someone who makes plans.

      • Chafed

        Planning to drink is a type of planning.

      • CPRM

        But that’s the same thing we do every night Brain!

  39. hayeksplosives

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more beautiful documentary than Untamed Romania.

    It should get ALL the Oscars. Cinematography blew my mind.

    Netflix. Look it up.

    • Lord Digby declares Victory

      I did! Tis also on Prime.

    • Chafed

      Was Pie the star?

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        What I was wondering! I’m checking now.

      • Chafed

        I think his screen name is Nosferatu.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        Does he sport a rich, chestnut, or, auburn coat in the Fall?

      • hayeksplosives

        No bats were harmed in the making of this film.

    • Lord Digby declares Victory

      You are NOT kidding about the cinematography…

      • hayeksplosives

        I literally cried.

        It was a spiritual experience.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        Ya big softie!

      • CPRM

        Men are only allowed to cry when watching Brian’s Song or at a funeral, way to show your female privilege.

      • hayeksplosives

        I love the line from Thst 70s Show where Redd proclaims “Crying is for babies and Italians!”

      • hayeksplosives

        Man, I wish I could’ve scrubbed the screenplay on that and made a “good” movie into the classic great it should have been.

        Side note: I love Peter Welles’s history series.

      • CPRM

        Um, Robocop is perfection! Heretic! and yes, I would have shit my pants if I took a history class at Dartmouth and THE Peter Weller was the guy that walked into the room. He started teaching about when I entered college I think, but I didn’t go to Dartmouth. And his Engineering An Empire episodes are great.

      • hayeksplosives

        Peter Weller is an odd looking fellow who actually “grew in to” his looks with age.

      • hayeksplosives

        Yup. Bitchez be cryin, yo

      • Lord Digby declares Victory
      • CPRM
      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        Now, why haven’t you carried that over to Redbubble?

      • CPRM

        Because I don’t think business like? Or I do, and thought Gropey Joe would be better, or because I’m drunk all the time, pick one.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        Were you limited as to what you could upload?

        Oh, right–drunk.

  40. Chafed

    I tried watching a replay of the Democratic debate. I lasted ten minutes. Bloomberg isn’t going to win. No one respects Steyer. Warren wants the VP slot or cabinet post. Biden is dead.

    • CPRM

      so you felt the Bern?

      • Chafed

        I’m concerned we all will. He really is a communist. It’s more than a little scary.

      • CPRM

        But, at least the mask will be off. Communism will be the face of the Democratic party. Only then can we have an open discussion with all the people who denied ObamaCare was meant to lead to single payer. But, sadly it will also move the ‘right’ more left, as the repubs are already lead by a 90s Democrat, and some fucking how seen as ‘far right’. What are we?! Chopped Flavor-aid?! (a joke you’ll get tomorrow night and Digby should get tonight)

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        If you’ll forgive me but–Bernie wished he had hair this great.

      • CPRM

        I really do think a Vice-a-Versa episode would be fun, just gotta see what the characters think. It is so weird to see my voice come out of two different characters and how odd it looks when they are reversed.

      • Lord Digby declares Victory

        Well, you do have a goodly amount of time in/with the characters. Here’s hoping you can figure something out.

      • CPRM

        I might just go word for word of the Vice-a-versa transformation scene with a kicker joke from Donald. We’ll pen that in if there is no breaking news by the next cartoon.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Panic isn’t the right word, i don’t think. Prepare for a likely possibility.

  41. CPRM

    The gay candidate doesn’t want to be known as flappable. Is that homophobic? Discuss.

    • hayeksplosives

      I can’t even with this guy!

    • Lord Digby declares Victory

      Wait–is it the term that’s in question, or, his desire not to be known as such?

      Short answer: Yes, with an ‘if’
      Long answer: No, with a bu-Hey, waitaminute!

  42. CPRM

    Bed futon Documentary Time. Enjoy the cartoon tomorrow, Digby already has. #FYTW

    • Lord Digby declares Victory

      Later! Or, earlier…

  43. Lord Digby declares Victory

    I’m presuming that all that Dem bullshit has just worn everyone out. Or, required a lot of alcohol.

    • UnCivilServant

      I’ve been waking up at five am, so I need to get to sleep before midnight. The start of this week has been as regular as my sleep schedule has been in a loooong time, and I’m not jinxing it.

      • Suthenboy

        I am up between 3 and 4 am every morning. Years of having to do so for work programmed me. I dont use an alarm, I just pop awake. That means 8pm is my ‘late’ bed time so I miss all the nighttime banter.

        Some thoughts: The UN is the Potemkin village of political institutions. It exists as a barely disguised money laundering front to funnel US taxpayer dollars into the pockets of third world monkeys. Otherwise it is completely useless and hopelessly corrupt.

        Donald Trump is going to be re-elected. My worry is that the refugees from the collapse of the Democratic Party are going to shift the Republicans leftward. What will happen to the crazies that have taken over the party, I dont know. Hopefully the lunatic fringe will end up crawling back under their rocks.

        The Corona Virus is out of hand but the panic is overblown. It is loose now and unstoppable. Only a small percentage of people who catch it die. Most of those are. in places with poor hygiene habits or compromised immune systems. Most apparently are asymptomatic or suffer something like a common cold. The greatest effect it will have will be economic and that wont be anything to sneeze at.

        That’s my….three cents.

      • UnCivilServant

        I am a chronic insomniac, so getting a steady sleep pattern has been difficult. I suspect my natural wired sleep time is between 2am and 10am. When I was doing nothing but writing, I slept midnight to 8am. Neither of these would work for a 7am shift, but all the commute and parking BS of a later shift is another stress/delay I don’t care for either.

  44. UnCivilServant

    It’s been a while since I’ve seen a parking job as bad as the one in front of my car this morning. Being streetside, there’s a point where someone wishing to park will be forsed to parallel park in an available space. This guy apparently decided that having more than half of his car hanging out into the traffic lane was fine. Naturally, the car he was parked directly halfway in front of was mine. At least I got out first try without vehicle to vehicle contact.

    I then somehow managed to arrive at the store before they even opened. So I sat there for eight minutes listening to the rain. It’s been a long time since I’ve been able to just sit and listen to the rain without worrying that it was going to cause some problem to my house. I miss that.

    • Gender Traitor

      Happy to report that the epubs got downloaded to the laptop and side-loaded to the Nook like buttah. And besides the extra reading time I’m likely to have this evening and tomorrow evening, the boss is off today and tomorrow, so I MAY even get some sneak-reading in at the office.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s good to know there were no technical issues.

        Don’t get in too much trouble at work 😉

      • Gender Traitor

        That’s part of the beauty of an e-reader – it can just sit innocently in that top desk drawer and doesn’t have to be held open. Try doing that with a paperback. #Technology!

      • UnCivilServant

        It would work with a scroll.

        Clay tablets might be a bit hard to get away with 😛

    • JD is Unemployed

      You’ll be pleased to know (or not), that I flushed a gigantic wax turd out of my left ear last night (the biggest I’ve ever seen), and one half as big out of my right ear. I’d just done the right one last time hence the asymmetry. I can now hear that the microwave oven is making a high-pitched ticking sound when it’s running.

      #TheMoreYouKnow

      • UnCivilServant

        Even the little sounds can be reassuring at times. Has your balance improved?

      • JD is Unemployed

        Yeah, I’m feeling much better, thanks.

  45. JD is Unemployed

    I would vote for you if I was ‘murican. Even Dr. No himself had exceptions did he not? But, this absolute standard seems like a good idea. Like Rhywun said, KISS.

    • Gender Traitor

      Your link worked after I simplified it. ; )

      • JD is Unemployed

        It doesn’t work at all, now! What was wrong with it?

        *mumbles to self* can’t get the bloody staff these days

      • Gender Traitor

        It was apparently the URL for this page and for the video run together, so I trimmed off the first bit ahead of the “https” for YouTube.

      • JD is Unemployed

        Oh dang it. I’m going to fire myself from doing links. I just try to put the nullrefer on links so places don’t see a whole bunch of traffic (relatively speaking) from glibs.

      • Gender Traitor

        Do you use Monocle or Eyepiece? Monocle is my little friend. It makes special text formatting, linking, and blockquotes easy peasy for a chick like me who knows just enough about online posting to be dangerous.

      • JD is Unemployed

        I just type my tags out manually like a schmo, or, in this particular case, like a putz. How does one use Monocle and/or Eyepiece?

      • Gender Traitor

        It was the least I could do, which is why I did it. ; )

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Monocle is the stable old happy Glib augmentor for desktop only. Eyepiece is the newer, occasionally updated Glib overdriver for desktop and mobile.

      • JD is Unemployed

        My phone is already falling over and crapping out. It’s due a factory reset I think. One every few months ought to do it. I use it for occasional posting here but I stick to desktop and Monocle seems just the ticket.

    • JD is Unemployed

      Ha! In your face, bubba!

      *launches into stirring rendition of ‘God Save the Queen’*

    • UnCivilServant

      I was going to ask what a pancake race was, but that was in the article. Unfortunately, it left me even more confused as to how this made the news.

      • JD is Unemployed

        Or, how something so apparently insignificant in Kansas made the news in Atlanta.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Slow news day in America I guess. It happens from time to time.

    • robc

      380 meters in 1.09 seconds puts Bolt to shame.

      • UnCivilServant

        I suspect the journalist got something wrong.

  46. Trigger Hippie

    I’ve been thinking long and hard about this for several months now, and I’ve decided that working for others is for the birds. Here’s the goal: Owing my own small business by the end of the year. I’ve got the knowledge, skill, and most but not all the equipment. So, as long as I maintain some financial discipline(believe it or not, I’ve already cut my weed budget in half) I should at least have the things I need to do it by then. Now for a client base…

    • UnCivilServant

      Good on you, and good luck.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Thanks.

        For a long time now, I’ve been content with basically making an extra $1000 or so per working year. Example: age 20, $20k, 21, $21k, ect, ect.

        I’ll be 40 in the Spring. And while I’m currently outpacing that trend, it isn’t by much. And I have fuck all to show for it. No savings, no woman, no house(renting),…I’ve been stuck on autopilot for nigh a decade. Add in minor yet constant conflicts at work(I need to face facts, I’m not a people pleaser, at all. Customers get the expectation, co-workers, not so much) and I dread going in around twice a week.

        Life’s too short and I’m tired of being somebody’s lackey.

      • UnCivilServant

        As long as you know your priorities, follow the path that’s right for you.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Welcome to life, I’ve been on autopilot for 56 years, owned a business, all that,
        now I’m sitting here with a pile of house that I need to get rid of,

      • Trigger Hippie

        I’ve gotta take a shot, man.

    • JD is Unemployed

      long and hard

      *Beavis/Butt-Head laugh*

      Do it. I look forward to reading a glib success story, or at least learning some things by proxy along the way! If you don’t mind me asking, what sort of services are you offering?

      • Trigger Hippie

        Interior/exterior painting, wood staining and enamel.

    • hayeksplosives

      Always be networking!!!

      • UnCivilServant

        Ethernet? Token Ring? Frame Relay?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        220, 221, whatever it takes,

      • Trigger Hippie

        See, being a curmudgeon makes that difficult.

        I need a mental reset, somehow.

    • robc

      Remember, the self-employed can work 1/2 days any time they want. In fact, they can even choose which 12 hours that will be.

      If have owned 2 small businesses: 1 reasonably successful, although not as much as I planned. The other crashed and burned. There are advantages to working for the man, but I encourage you to go for it. I may go for #3 some day, in fact, it is kind of my “retirement” plan.

      • Trigger Hippie

        I have no problem putting in the hours, lots of free time. But yeah, getting burnt out is a concern. Just need to stay focused.

      • robc

        A decade of being on call 24/7 did me in.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Thank god that isn’t really apart of my profession. I mean, I fully expect to get concerned calls from a home owner in the evenings from time to time, but there’s no worry about getting a Drop Everything and Go! call.

      • robc

        It was rare, but it was a theoretical possibility. My best client would wait until 8 AM. They didnt sweat the late night stuff, it could get fixed in the morning. But I knew it was them if my phone rang at 8:01.

    • R C Dean

      “Now for a client base…”

      Also known as, the hard part.

      I say go for it.

  47. Suthenboy

    Oh, on my thoughts, one more question.

    Has anyone heard anything about where the Chinese got the Corona Virus? I am hearing that perhaps it was given to them by a scientist from British Columbia – but that sounds kinda conspiracy theorish to me, but these days so many conspiracy theories are turning out true so I am waiting for more info.

    *most of the stuff the Chinese do is tech stolen from the west and replicated cargo cult style (have you tried using any of their tools?) so it would not surprise me if they were incapable of actually creating the virus themselves and instead had it outsourced.

    • JD is Unemployed

      The tools thing is different – as I understand it they have the manufacturing capabilities to make things to a high standard, but willingness to make something to just about any price point. So if a company goes about negotiating for manufacturing a product in China, there’s little chance they’ll say “no we can’t assure you a quality product at that price”, they just make shit and dump it, letting the market decide what’s worth buying. Also, I understand quality control over there is difficult to manage, and having much control over processes is difficult, too, for small to medium concerns. In terms of their “biosecurity” or whatever, I think that’s a different game entirely. They don’t seem competent at managing anything like that safely.

    • Tejicano

      “Making” a corona virus isn’t like setting up and running a laptop production facility. You only need a handful of top medical scientists to make a virus. Of course stealing bits and pieces of the tech side of things makes that easier. What you do need is a few hundred really good medical technicians to do a lot of the grunt work and ensure it doesn’t get away. I think they scrimped a bit on that part.

    • R C Dean

      The corona virus itself is very common. SARS is a corona virus, I believe. Makes sense the Chinese would be researching it. They didn’t need to get it from anyone.

      The question is, where did this variety come from? Was it a natural zoonotic mutation, or engineered? Either could have come from China.

  48. Yusef drives a Kia

    Perhaps, They got it from Canadians and pulled a Harbor Freight, and it turned out like it always does, just a little cheaper…….