The Beer Wars: An Incomplete History of the American Beer Industry (pt 3)

by | Mar 20, 2020 | Beer, Federal Power, Food & Drink, History | 308 comments

Part 1

Part 2

This is part 3, of at least 6, articles on the Beer Wars, beginning with a some background history.  This is the last background article, covering 1933-1970.  As we saw in Part 1, when prohibition started, there were about 1300 breweries operating in the United States. After prohibition, there were 700ish left.  This number would continue to decline until 1981, when it hit a bottom of 101.  But that is a story for another part.

This part is going to be chart heavy.  See the end notes for sources.  The first chart, is the top 10 breweries in 2940.  Some of the names will look familiar.

Top 10 U.S. Brewers. Year: 1940

RANK BREWER BARRELAGE
1 Anheuser-Busch, Inc. 2,468,000
2 Pabst Brewing Co. 1,730,000
3 Jos. Schlitz Brewing Co. 1,570,000
4 F & M Schaefer Brewing Co. 1,390,200
5 Ballantine, Inc. 1,322,346
6 Jacob Ruppert 1,228,400
7 Theo. Hamm Brewing Corp. 694,200
8 Duquesne Brewing 690,000
9 Falstaff Brewing Corp. 684,537
10 Liebmann Bros. 670,198

Total Barrelage of All U.S. Brewers in 1950: 54,900,000 barrels.
Top 10 Brewers’ Percentage of Total U.S. Barrelage: 23 percent.

There were 3 major trends in this time period.  Increase in total brewing volume and consolidation of breweries into larger and larger entities.  The third trend was the death of all things not fizzy, yellow lager.  Ballantine was making ales.  The German breweries were primarily making lagers, but it wasn’t all pale.  There were bocks.  Schnell was making a hefeweizen up into the 60s, I believe they were the last US brewery making one and when they stopped it was about 20 years before another was made.

But increasingly sales went to the pale lagers.  The amount of hops was decreasing.  The amount of rice and corn was increasing.

As we come out of the war and move into 1950, there are some changes.  The big boys have doubled in size and take a much bigger share of the total industry.  But the industry has grown too.  The war changed the drinking habits of a lot of the former soldiers.

Jacob Ruppert, the man, died in 1939.  He is more famous for things other than brewing, like buying Babe Ruth from the Red Sox.  His heirs mismanaged the brewery, sold its flagship brand to Leibmann, and eventually closed in 1965.

Duquesne Brewing built a new 2 million barrel capacity brewery that opened in 1950.  But sales began to decline.  In 1965, Pittsburgh Brewing was going to buy them out but it ran into antitrust issues and fell thru.  Finally,  Christian Schmidt would buy them in 1971.  The brand was discontinued in the early 80s.

Top 10 U.S. Brewers. Year: 1950

RANK BREWER BARRELAGE
1 Jos. Schlitz Brewing Co. 5,096,840
2 Anheuser-Busch, Inc. 4,928,000
3 Ballantine, Inc. 4,375,000
4 Pabst Brewing Co. 3,418,677
5 F & M Schaefer Brewing Co. 2,772,000
6 Liebmann Bros. 2,965,522
7 Falstaff Brewing Corp. 2,286,707
8 Miller Brewing Co. 2,105,706
9 Blatz Brewing Co. 1,756,000
10 Pfeiffer Brewing Co. 1,618,077

Total Barrelage of All U.S. Brewers in 1950: 82,830,137 barrels.
Top 10 Brewers’ Percentage of Total U.S. Barrelage: 38 percent.

We have a new #1 brewery in 1950, congratulations to Schlitz, lets hope it lasts!  (it wont)  We have some new entries, including Miller out of Milwaukee, not sure if they will stick around or not.  I guess we will see.

There isn’t much industry growth in the 1950s, but the consolidation continues.  In 1959, Pabst would attempt to by out Blatz (who was down to #18) but … antitrust (again) got in the way.  Instead, they closed, and Pabst bought their assets and brands in 1960.  So, ummm, yeah, that happened.  Miller continues to make Blatz to this day, but how it got there is a long and winding road that will repeat over and over.  Short version…nearly everyone either is owned by Pabst or owns Pabst at some point in this story.  Pabst is a wheeler and dealer of beer brands.

Pfeiffer used their position to buy a bunch of regional breweries in the 1950s, including Jacob Schmidt. They changed their name to Associated Brewing Company and would make the 1970 list, see below. Their strategy failed as the consumer switched to national breweries, and they filed bankruptcy in 1971 and were purchased by Heileman.

Top 10 U.S. Brewers. Year: 1960

RANK BREWER BARRELAGE
1 Anheuser-Busch, Inc. 8,477,099
2 Jos. Schlitz Brewing Co. 5,694,000
3 Falstaff Brewing Corp. 4,915,000
4 Carling Brewing Co. 4,822,075
5 Pabst Brewing Co. 4,738,000
6 P. Ballantine & Sons 4,408,895
7 Theo. Hamm Brewing Corp. 3,907,040
8 F & M Schaefer Brewing Co. 3,202,500
9 Liebmann Breweries 2,950,268
10 Miller Brewing Co. 2,376,543

Total Barrelage Of All U.S. Brewers in 1960: 87,912,847 barrels.
Top 10 Brewers’ Percentage of Total U.S. Barrelage: 52 percent.

A-B is back on top, and that upstart Miller is holding onto a spot in the top 10.  Hamm has recovered after falling out of the top 10 in 1950.  And Carling has come from nowhere to shoot to #4.  Stupid Canuckistanis.

Growth took off in the 1960s again, and the big boys benefited the most.  Ballantine’s ale strategy stopped working and they went into decline, finally selling out to Falstaff in 1972.  Today, they are owned by…anyone…anyone, that’s right, Pabst.

Leibmann was sold by the founding family in 1963, in 1967 they introduced Gablinger’s Diet Beer, which failed.  This foreshadows absolutely no part of the story in part 4.  Absolutely none at all.  In 1976 they closed their doors.

Top 10 U.S. Brewers. Year: 1970

RANK BREWER BARRELAGE
1 Anheuser-Busch, Inc. 22,201,811
2 Jos. Schlitz Brewing Co. 15,129,000
3 Pabst Brewing Co. 10,517,000
4 Adolph Coors Co. 7,277,076
5 F & M Schaefer Brewing Co. 5,749,000
6 Falstaff Brewing Corp. 5,386,133
7 Miller Brewing Co. 5,150,000
8 Carling Brewing Co. 4,819,000
9 Theo. Hamm Brewing Co. 4,470,000
10 Associated Brewing Co. 3,750,000

Total Barrelage Of All U.S. Brewers in 1970: 121,861,000 barrels.
Top 10 Brewers’ Percentage of Total U.S. Barrelage: 69 percent.

The one new guy in 1970 made a big splash.  They would dominate the west from their position in Golden, CO and would get an even bigger name in the late 70s due to Smokey and The Bandit.

As I mentioned in part 1, I would mention what was going on with Falls City Brewing during this time period.  The came out of prohibition as the dominant regional brewer in Louisville and like everyone else was focused on pale lagers.  Their story is much like many others, as the national breweries grew, they lost their luster and struggled.  At one point in the 60s, they lost their #1 spot in Louisville to Sterling, out of Evansville.  At the same time, however, they overtook Sterling as the #1 brand in Evansville.  There is a long history, both in the US and the UK, that people don’t want to drink their grandfathers’ beer.  Brand loyalty is generational, and the old regional brands didn’t have the appeal that the national brands did.

With part 4, we will actually get to the Beer Wars.  You have seen the rumblings of it with consolidation, and some aspects of it with all the buyouts and closings in the 1970s.  part 4 will cover the ’70s, and part 5 until about 1995.  Part 6 will cover after that, with maybe a part 7, too.

Sources:

1940: https://eh.net/encyclopedia/a-concise-history-of-americas-brewing-industry/

1950-1970:  https://www.beerhistory.com/library/holdings/shakeout.shtml

Fate of breweries:  Mostly wikipedia

 

 

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308 Comments

  1. robc

    Proofreading was minimal. Deal with it.

    • The Hyperbole

      So you don’t want snarky comments about time traveling?

      • robc

        The snarky comments are a way to deal with it.

      • The Hyperbole

        Fair enough, but what’s the excuse for the lack of Alt-text?

      • robc

        Not clever enough to think of anything.

  2. Toxteth O’Grady

    Good read.

    I still like beer. Wish it were less fattening.

  3. Scruffy Nerfherder

    robc can see into the future

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Damn you robc!

  4. westernsloper

    Proofreading was minimal. Deal with it.

    No problemo.

    Kind of amazing Coors made it from not on the list to #4 in a decade. In the 70’s the parts I reside in now grew barley and hops for Coors. So much so that there was a railroad silo to dispense said crops into rail cars for the trip to Golden. That is long gone and the building repurposed. Now the farmers grow sweet corn and, in the past few years, hemp. As well as green chilis, onions, etc….

    • robc

      I have an image of Babe Ruth using a kegerator, what more do you want?

    • l0b0t

      My favorite was an old Red Foxx spot for (IIRC) Olde English. Starts with tight shot of Foxx pouring a glass, camera pulls back through the window to reveal a dilapidated tenement building with a wrecking ball about to hit it. Cut to Foxx, sitting in a pile of rubble, sipping his malt liquor, quipping “Welp, that’s urban renewal for ya.”

    • Fourscore

      LaVerne and Shirley worked at Blatz

      • Don Escaped Texas

        that’s where it was shot?

        I recall it being called Schotz

      • Fatty Bolger

        You recall correctly.

      • Fourscore

        Driving on the interstate past the Blatz (Schotz) brewery was a heavy offensive odor. I asked a local what it was from and he said the “yeast’ at the brewery

      • Nephilium

        Fermentation has a fairly distinct aroma (depending on the yeast). What starts to smell terrible quickly is spent grains (high sugar content, wet, and warm). That’s why they have to either be processed or given out as feed soon.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        That was an early episode of Dirty Jobs, no?

      • UnCivilServant

        He did go to a brewery/distillery in one episode, and a winery in a different one.

  5. invisible finger

    rob, you mention the buying and selling of brands in the 60’s and 70’s. Did this immediately coincide with the changing of a brand’s recipe or was that more prevalent in the 80’s as price-oriented market segmentation (rather than locale segmentation) took hold?

    • robc

      I don’t know. I know later on the recipes became the same. Iron City and Falls City were the exact same beer when both were being brewed in Pittsburgh, just packaged differently.

      I think that is probably a later development as so many brands became owned by so few breweries.

      • Nephilium

        There was also the economy of scale and working to get consistent product from coast to coast.

      • robc

        That too. As you grew, buying out another brewery for their capacity was easier and cheaper than building another brewhouse. Some of them are still getting swapped around to this day.

      • robc

        And there are parallels to what is going on with craft consolidation today.

      • Nephilium

        Yep, and more in the Canarchy/Artisanal Brewing Ventures style then the AB-InBev style. There’s also much more of a push to go just regional as of a couple months back (which is hurting a lot of breweries with the shut downs).

      • invisible finger

        Damn that reminds me of my corner drug store job in the 80’s. It was a mom-and-pop place but we sold at least 400 cases of beer out of there every day. When Coors came into the market in the mid-80’s, the rule was their product HAD to be refrigerated and they would not sell to us if we didn’t put all the overstock in the beer cooler. For the first couple months we weren’t sure how we were going to handle it, but it seemed that most of the Stroh’s drinkers switched to Coors very quickly. (May have been the same local distributor – which has ALOT to do with what brands get emphasis and therefore sales volume as I learned later.)

      • Nephilium

        Hell, you can look at items such as Yuengling. They just came into Ohio a couple years back (and that’s only one state over). Based on conversations I had with sales reps and distributors I know, they had a sales quota they were looking to sell of their beer in Ohio in the first year. Ohio bought that much in the first month (which is why we started getting the extended Yuengling product lines such as the porter and black and tan).

      • invisible finger

        Come to think of it, I don’t think I ever saw Yeungling in Illinois until after Rolling Rock got taken over by A-B.

      • juris imprudent

        Yuengling is like the reverse-Coors – my West Coast friends love when I bring it to them at Burning Man.

      • robc

        Do you win a bet by getting it there is a ridiculously short amount of time?

  6. l0b0t

    A fascinating and fun read. A great distraction from stupid times. Thanks robc.

  7. Don Escaped Texas

    Dad was a grocer, and I watched this in the seventies up close. Our little corner of the world was something of the median American experience: because of the Goodyear plant, a lot of folks and even more of the money locally was from Akron. So it was a bunch of dirty Protestant farmers and a few college-educated German Catholics, and that’s how the beer and cola war played out locally.

    We didn’t have liquor by the drink before Watergate, so the Yankees built their Moose Club to fix that. Farmboys drank A-B stuff; Yankees drank Pabst; Blacks drank Colt45 (by which I mean: this accounts for 50% of what I saw and thought I knew as a teenager).

    The Miller distributor was a dear friend and regional Catholic. His was the biggest shop in the region in a county of around 30k folk. Here’s where I get fuzzy: I don’t remember all the frontings and brands; I more remember the distribution because that’s who I knew (I would later drive a truck for Coke, my family’s idea of a good job connection). We haven’t gotten to it yet, but the label frontings seemed to take off with Reagan (MGD, Red Dog, Plank Road). Before that, Miller seems to be drafting to the front with Lite and Bubba Smith tastesgreatlessfilling: the question of diet beer was very much unsettled. He tried things: I remember when the first Foster’s showed up in a composite can. I was the first kid in town with an aluminum baseball bat (typical bribe for grocers) in Miller gold, the first bit of swag I ever got from any commercial enterprise.

    The Bud dealer was a dear friend Ned Ray McWherter. He was a truck driver made good, a National Guard officer good neighbor type. His warehouse was 40 miles away in the nearest city that was larger than ours. It was a lot rougher town (on the river), and I bet he sold a lot more beer. A farmboy, I never saw him drink anything but Miller, supplied by his dear friend, the other big distributor; they were pals because the didn’t really compete: people drank their brand and never changed . . . and everyone was getting rich.

    Old Milwaukee: Tim Richmond
    Miller: Bobby Allison
    Stroh’s Light: Mark Martin
    Miller Lite: Sterling Marlin
    Coors: Awesome Bill from Dawsonville Elliott
    Keystone: Wally Dallenbach Jr
    Busch: Cale Yarbrough
    Miller Genuine Draft: Rusty Wallace
    Budweiser: Darrell Waltrip

    • robc

      Miller seems to be drafting to the front with Lite and Bubba Smith

      This foreshadows absolutely no part of the story in part 4. Absolutely none at all.

      • juris imprudent

        So Don is the real time traveller is what you are saying.

      • Don Escaped Texas

        traveler? I’m stuck in the seventies

        * checks Glock, reholsters *
        * submits online article from laptop*

      • Ozymandias

        The wife and I just watched the latest “Star Wars” shitshow on Prime. And holy shit, they brought Lando back for that thing?? The ad you linked was Billy Dee at his peak. The nostalgia turn in the latest Star Wars was…. not good for those of us who remember him when he was actually cool.

    • invisible finger

      ” people drank their brand and never changed ”

      Went to a Cubs game with a Miller sales rep last year. Went out for a couple beers after the game and he said “For my first 30 years this job was a cinch because it was all about brand loyalty – maintaining it and building it. Now brand loyalty is kaput and we’re all guessing at how to sell. Trends barely last a year anymore.” He was extremely pissed that the White Sox and Miller couldn’t agree to terms but the White Sox discovered they sold more beer by not having an “official” (dominant) beer.

      • robc

        Now brand loyalty is kaput and we’re all guessing at how to sell.

        Maybe you could consider, I don’t know, flavor?

        I remember a great talk I saw: Brand loyalty in the craft beer world means “Buys my product at least once per month.” The big boy can’t survive in that world.

      • invisible finger

        Yep, that’s exactly what he said. He went as far as to say “once a quarter is more realistic. And even then you can’t count on that for more than a few years. People don’t even want to drink their older brother’s craft beer. Hard Seltzer seems to have more loyalty than the craft beers, but I don’t expect it will last much more than anything else. It’s like phones, if it’s been around more than a couple years people want to move on from it.”

      • robc

        And yet the big craft brewers chug along fine, as long as they keep innovating.

        I don’t buy much Sierra Nevada, but I buy a 12 pack of Celebration every Christmas.

      • invisible finger

        That’s because their executive and sales compensation is based on a different model than the big boys. And they (probably) don’t have union labor contracts at their breweries.

      • Don Escaped Texas

        Cubs game

        Old Style is still in style in the North Side

  8. l0b0t

    Also, I had an old Blatz lighted wall clock but I traded it for a kilt with the owner of the Leon Pub in Tallahassee.

  9. Nephilium

    On topic as a way to help out my fellow Ohio glibs, the Ohio Craft Beer Association has an up to date list of member breweries with their updated hours, if they have beer/food to go, offering delivery, gift cards, or offering shipping:

    Ohio Craft Breweries Offering Beer for Carry Out and Delivery

    • The Hyperbole

      Someone needs to tell the web designer that when you have a table that large the headers shouldn’t roll of the screen as you scroll.

    • Ozymandias

      I’m so sorry, Festus. But what a hoot! You got lots of joy from that puppy!
      Dogs truly are the best for what they teach us about unconditional love. ?

  10. Don Escaped Texas

    buying out another brewery for their capacity

    The new Schlitz factory in MEM was built at least 50 years ago. Schlitz sold out decades ago, but the beer is still rolling, mostly contract work.

    In MEM as in Golden, it’s the water. Ours is delicious, nearly free, and requires almost no treatment for production of most foodstuffs.

    • invisible finger

      In Chicago, we called Budweiser “used miller”. MEM water would have to be “used budweiser”

    • Nephilium

      Depends on what you’re brewing. The reason that certain areas became known for certain styles was because those styles worked best with the local water. You can to this day buy Burton Salts to condition your water to match the British water supply. Hence Irish Dry Stouts, Pilsener, and British milds/bitters all become tied to regions.

      • robc

        When why certain areas of Czech Republic make Pilsner. Their water chemistry is pretty unique (very little in it, IIRC).

      • robc

        ^^^This is how you get time travel.

      • Rhywun

        Guessing it’s centered around the city of Pilsen.

      • robc

        Outside the city it is called something else.

    • robc

      The Memphis brewery was top of my mind with the “still being passed around” comment. I know Coors owned it at one point, as Blue Moon was being brewed there. I think they sold it to a contract brewer (or maybe they were just contracting?).

      • Nephilium

        One of my issues of BA (RIP) had an interview with the head brewer from Blue Moon who commented that they had several batches that were lost in the warehouses. Each of those lost batches was more beer then some craft breweries made in a year.

      • robc

        I wonder if I had that issue, I don’t remember that article. I was a founding subscriber, but let it lapse about 2016.

      • Nephilium

        I think my first issue was issue 2 or 3. I’ve got most of them stashed around in storage.

      • robc

        I dumped mine with the last move.

  11. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Every time I attempt to get started on work, it’s the wife that interrupts me.

    This is going to be a long shutdown

    • hayeksplosives

      Try wearing your work badge and saying you’re at work until it comes off.

      • Nephilium

        That would require pants.

      • Q Continuum

        Not if he’s a gigolo.

      • juris imprudent

        You can clip that badge onto something else.

    • leon

      Door Lock. it does wonders.

  12. Q Continuum

    “So it doesn’t fill you up, so what’s it taste like?”

    Girl #1 gossiping with Girl #2 about her boyfriend’s micropenis.

    • AlexinCT

      Wut?

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Depends on what you’re brewing. The reason that certain areas became known for certain styles was because those styles worked best with the local water. You can to this day buy Burton Salts to condition your water to match the British water supply. Hence Irish Dry Stouts, Pilsener, and British milds/bitters all become tied to regions.

    Watched a thing about bourbon the other night. One of their claims was that bourbon makers are concentrated around Louisville because of the water.

  14. westernsloper

    Sorry about the off topic, but fuck me. My employer told us we were going on administrative leave due to the plague at the beginning of the week. We just needed to button things up for a shutdown and leave the place in a state for a quick restart. One of my guys bitched incessantly all morning tues that is what not safe to be at work as we might infect each other. I bitched him out and told him if he really felt that way he should go home and self quarantine. He pouted all week but showed up to work. We got it all buttoned up and left work at noonish yesterday. Same guy just asked me if it is ok to get a part time job while we are shut down. Apparently his concern for his health has departed. I hate people, I hate my job, and I really need to figure out how to work for myself.

    • Nephilium

      Fuck you! No, fuck me!

      I just got asked to work through the weekend since one group of the company I support just fucking started rolling out WFH, and they’re doing it in a half assed manual way that will take 2-3x longer then what I’ve been doing for the other groups.

      • hayeksplosives

        The owner of my company is old school and not having any of it (bless that man) so we are staying open as a “critical capability” and are coming to work as needed. Sure, he throws a “work from home if you can” in there, but he’d be cool with the whole assembly line engaged.

      • juris imprudent

        I laughed that California’s defense companies were exempt from Gov. Farsideofthemoon’s edict.

      • westernsloper

        That sucks. So you hate people too? My bottom line is around here I am just glad I have a job that will restart (most likely). I know a bunch of people are not in that position. That is why I was so pissed at bitching guy.

      • Nephilium

        I’m about ready to tell one of the guys on my team to fucking man up. He’s been in the position for almost two years now, and he’s asking me to hold his gods damned hand on every e-mail chain and ticket.

      • Raven Nation

        Neph: I have no idea about your particular situation, but can I throw one piece of amateur psychology at you (I’m going to anyway)?

        Few years back, I learned about a personality type where the person is pretty good at what they do but, for whatever reason, they need to be reassured every now and then that they know what they’re doing. I’ve got someone like that that I supervise and they were struggling with a task. I sat them down in my office and pointed out to them their experience, the amount of time they’d been here, and all the right calls they’d made so far. It was enough to get them through the process.

        I would imagine that personality type would struggle even more in the current situation.

        I’m sure you have a lot more demands on your time than I do and can’t sit down and walk them through every e-mail, etc. But MAYBE, one little encouraging pep talk MIGHT be helpful?

      • Nephilium

        This is someone who’s been lackluster even when there wasn’t a crisis. And he’s made plenty of bad calls (he got shifted from one team to another already because of complaints). It’s the same questions over and over on top of that. FFS, he can’t even log in on time when he’s working from home.

        But I do appreciate the advise.

      • Don Escaped Texas

        nice

        I like “small wins.” You get them to chop up the task (the same way any of us would manage a large parts) into digestible bits with milestone accomplishments. Each bite has its own goal and its own needs for resources. Some folks try to keep all the points of a large job in the front of their brain at once; great managers almost never do this.

      • Raven Nation

        Yeah, it was kind of eye-opener for me when I started teaching. There’s always a couple of kids in the class who, after you’ve explained something, put up their hands and essentially repeat back what I just said in the form of a question. I used to eye-roll that, but now I get that most of those kids are effectively saying “please confirm for me that I’ve understood what you’ve asked me to do.”

      • Ted S.

        My dad’s German cousin Angela was like that, except that what she was really doing was subtly correcting me any time I got German grammar wrong. A great way to learn.

        I think she was the last of my dad’s first cousins when she died at the end of last year just before her 91st birthday.

    • Charles Easterly

      “… and I really need to figure out how to work for myself.”

      Perhaps making and posting a quality Youtube video which highlights that with which you excel at may suffice. If I understand correctly, you may have to include background music (at low volume), and the background music best suited to your videos should likely be whatever contemporary viewers will find engaging.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    Fekkin eedjitz

    Gov. Steve Bullock has ordered the closure of Montana’s dine-in food service and alcoholic beverage business in an effort to curtail the spread of new coronavirus.

    The governor’s directive permits take-out and food delivery, according to a news release.

    The closure is effective at 8 p.m. tonight and ends at 11:59 p.m. on March 27. However, the date will likely be extended, the news release said.

    “Both young and older Montanans, in urban and rural communities, have tested positive for coronavirus, making it even more clear that this virus impacts us all and that these actions are imperative to protecting our friends and neighbors,” Gov. Bullock said in a statement. “We face extraordinary health risks – and with it even further risks to our economic and social well-being – if we do not act now. I do not take this decision lightly and it was done so in consultation with public health professionals. Montanans, too, need to take this seriously. It’s up to all of us to stop the spread of this virus.”

    GODDAMMIT!

    I know where I’ll be at 4:00. Supporting my local bartender.

    • leon

      330 MM are stopped from daily life at behest of 10,000 Sick people.

      • hayeksplosives

        Not only stopped from daily life, but seeing real wealth destroyed and getting fleeced so my neighbors get $1200??

      • l0b0t

        And right as the economy was springing back and service industry jobs were becoming lucrative again. I’m gonna end up living under a bridge.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        #meToo

      • Tres Cool

        Someone mentioned yesterday (last night?) that since Trump was going to run his campaign on a strong economy, this is the DeepState® in action, burning it all to the ground just to prevent 4 more years.

        I do see that as too far-fetched.

      • Tres Cool

        /do not

      • hayeksplosives

        It fits. The Deep Staters knew enough to dump their stocks. and of course they’re not getting furloughed themselves.

        Seeking the destruction of real wealth as a means to regaining power is the ultimate form of TDS.

      • Pine_Tree

        Most folks I know have that as their base interpretation right now – the THD panic is driven by the media and DeepState pols to hurt Trump.

        Some of it’s obviously Stupid blended with Evil, but still, a lot of people are seeing this for what it is.

      • Sean

        Some of it’s obviously Stupid blended with Evil, but still, a lot of people are seeing this for what it is.

        Unless that leads to decorating trees with those responsible, I fail to see how that makes any difference.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    The places subject to the directive are permitted and encouraged to offer food and beverage using delivery service, window service, walk-up service, drive-through service, or drive-up service, and to use precautions in doing so to mitigate the potential transmission of COVID-19, including social distancing, the news release said.

    I’m going to push for ” walk-up window service” with consumption in the alley out back (as soon as the snow and ice melt).

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Same guy just asked me if it is ok to get a part time job while we are shut down.

    Tell him to look for a full time job. I would, anyway.

    • westernsloper

      I think the boss holds the same sentiment. Not impressed at all.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    330 MM are stopped from daily life at behest of 10,000 Sick people.

    Precautionary Principle, FTW!

    Fuck off, slavers!

    • R C Dean

      This is pretty much the opposite of what the precautionary principle would say. It would say “Don’t do anything (like shutting down large segments of the economy) until you can show that it won’t hurt anybody.”

  19. Q Continuum

    OT: GS predicts a 24% contraction in GDP.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/20/goldman-sees-an-unprecedented-stop-of-economic-activity-with-2nd-quarter-gdp-contracting-by-24percent.html

    Almost double 1932 in which GDP contracted 13%. I guess this is what happens when you shut down modern civilization to try and stop a slightly more potent flu bug.

    Fuck “flattening the curve”, there is going to be way more suffering and long term consequences from this kind of bullshit than there would be if we didn’t do shit about the stupid virus.

    • invisible finger

      That’s the equivalent of three months. If The Panic Of 2020 lasts longer than a month, the GS prediction seems kinda low to me.

    • leon

      reminder that night two months ago GS said that the economy was “practically recession-proof”

    • Rebel Scum

      way more suffering and long term consequences from this kind of bullshit than there would be

      This is the result of pretty much all government intervention.

  20. l0b0t

    Statewide lockdown starts Sunday. Stuck in the house with soon to be ex-wife (she was going to take kids to FL for a few weeks… thanks Rat-Faced Andy The Mobbed Up Lawyer). Kill me now. Off to grocer for last fixin’s for Bearnaise; making prime rib tonight. Also, liquor store and brewery.

    • Q Continuum

      “with soon to be ex-wife”

      Yikes.

      Maybe a reconciliation?

      Or you could have over a call girl just to screw with her head.

      • l0b0t

        Sigh… that ship sailed some time ago. I’m just trying to save money to move back to NOLA. New York’s Not My Home

      • Don Escaped Texas

        back to NOLA

        If you move somewhere for a girl, it should be Texas. That’s the kind of fucking you can at least lay back and enjoy.

    • Ted S.

      I just got off the phone with my boss and since we’re health-care related (health insurance), I was told we’re still open Monday morning. I have no idea what’s really going to happen. Don’t expect cops on the street at 5:30 AM, however.

    • DEG

      Stuck in the house with soon to be ex-wife

      Sorry.

      • R C Dean

        Get some masking tape, and mark off her part of the house, and your part of the house, for the duration.

    • Rhywun

      An update:

      Laundromats and gas stations will be allowed to remain open, as will liquor stores and restaurants for take-out and delivery service.

      Well, that covers pretty much every business I visit anyway.

    • westernsloper

      Collapse of sanity.

      • juris imprudent

        Sanity has been on a glide path since the first Weds of Nov. 2016 .

    • Ozymandias

      I am not surprised one bit and can’t understand why anyone else is. They told us they would do this.

      Team Blue said as soon as Trump got elected that there would be a recession. (See, e.g., Krugman, Paul and NYT). When the economy didn’t collapse, then the DNC and its Media lackeys told us that it would be totes worth it to crash the economy if it got Orange Hitler out of office. From Bill Maher to late night hosts to DNC Operatives with bylines to members of Congress, a big and loud chunk of Team Blue tweeted their hopes for an economic collapse. I believe this site may have one of the most comprehensive compilations of those self-destructive statements. I take people at their word – if they say they want to tank the economy, and then when the opportunity arises to do so and they do it, I think it’s reasonable to believe them.

      The Wu Flu gave the Media exactly what it needed to run what I believe will someday become a casebook study on the power of media propaganda. That America Thinker piece that Rebel Scum (I think?) linked to is as telling as anything. Look at the Media coverage of the H1N1 in 2009 when Obama was in office. The difference is so stark as to be proof of intent, as fare as I’m concerned (if their words and actions weren’t enough already).

      • Fourscore

        I have thought that too, for quite some time. Its always “Follow the Money”. The big problem, if the Blues inherit the world as we know it, are gonna find things in a deplorable state that they can not recover from. I believe we may have already reached that stage. Trump listening to his advisors, wildly spending money, now throwing money around because he thinks and believes it makes him look like he’s doing something.

        It ends, not with a crash but with a whimper.

      • juris imprudent

        Gives them all the ‘justification’ they need to turn this country into Venezuela.

      • R C Dean

        if the Blues inherit the world as we know it, are gonna find things in a deplorable state that they can not recover from

        They will recover just fine, bet on it. The nomenklatura and apparatchiks always do. They will have what they want – power.

        The rest of us will be fucked. Our Masters won’t care, because what’s the point of being Our Masters if you can’t screw the deplorables?

      • Raven Nation

        You know, the H1N1 occurred to me the other day as well.

        And, I was wondering if there were significant differences between the two events? Is it possible “we” learned from that outbreak which has triggered the tougher sanctions this time around?

      • Ozymandias

        Here are the CDC numbers for H1N1:

        From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.

        Those numbers dwarf the numbers for the current pantshitting by an order of magnitude as of right now. Current numbers for COVID19 from Johns Hopkins’ tracking site for the WHOLE WORLD:

        263,071 infected/11,113 dead

        Obviously, we’re not through it yet, but the worldwide numbers for H1N1 for comparison:

        It is estimated that 11–21% of the global population at the time — or around 700 million–1.4 billion people (out of a total of 6.8 billion) — contracted the illness – more than the number of people infected by the Spanish flu pandemic,[6][10] with about 150,000–575,000 fatalities.[7] A follow-up study done in September 2010 showed that the risk of serious illness resulting from the 2009 H1N1 flu was no higher than that of the yearly seasonal flu.[11]

        From the wiki.

        I am firmly/100% convinced that this is an intentional action by the media to destroy the US economy and get Orange Man out of office.

      • grrizzly

        But how does it explain Italy? And Spain? And France? They might hate Trump, for sure. But destroying their economies will not help removing Trump from power.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        You need to eat more red pills to get BASED, grrizz. Obviously, since Italy, Spain, and France are all European countries, this is a plan by the Globalist Elite to destroy the West. Isn’t it curious that Africa has been relatively unscathed?

        #QTPie #WWF1WWE #PIZZASTONE

      • Not Adahn

        You think that they don’t have their own Deep States? And that the various countries Deep States don’t hang out on Deep State message boards and Deep State Twitter?

      • leon

        Italy’s Deep State is some crazy Dan Brown/Tom Hanks movie shit.

        Tom Hanks Disease….

      • Heroic Mulatto

        leon is connecting the dots.

      • Sean

        George Soros.

        *mic drop*

      • Rhywun

        I have the same objection to this theory.

      • R C Dean

        While I think our media were absolutely, and overtly, flogging a panic as a “Get Trump” vehicle (they were asking months ago if this was going to be Trump’s Katrina), I think the gross overreaction by multiple governments can be chalked up to the set of shared incentives and mindsets amongst bureaucrats and the powerhungry everywhere.

      • Don Escaped Texas

        multiple governments

        thank d*G none of the Republican governors would fall for that shit !

      • Heroic Mulatto

        Not to mention the fact that the claim that the economy was healthy circa 2016 is risible. I’ve been saying for years that it stood on feet of clay and it would only take one black swan like this to have it all come crumbling down.

      • invisible finger

        They don’t want anymore exits from the EU.

      • Sean

        https://www.rt.com/op-ed/483628-coronavirus-lockdown-curfew-troops/

        The second problem, and the more important one in the short-term, is that economic rationale is not what is driving policy; apocalyptic doom-mongering is. Provoked by the media, governments have been forced into a macabre competition of being seen to be acting. The ‘do something… anything’ approach has resulted in new performative displays aimed at placating the doom mongers, rather than address the health problem rationally. Many governments have been driven less by a reasoned, evidence-based strategy of limiting both the spread of the disease and the disorganisation of economic life, than by an urge to be seen to be taking action.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        But that can’t be! They’re world leaders informed by experts in the field!

        /more than one condescending asshole when I expressed skepticism toward the response

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        https://www.rt.com/

        Russian bot confirmed.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    That’s the equivalent of three months. If The Panic Of 2020 lasts longer than a month, the GS prediction seems kinda low to me.

    I don’t even know how you would go about modeling the economic effects of this idiocy. Probably as a massive, incredibly contagious “pandemic” with an astoundingly high mortality rate. Everybody gets it. Nobody survives unharmed.

    How many small bars and restaurants will be able to survive a 30 day shutdown? 60 days? What about hair salons and nail shops?

    • westernsloper

      I am not sure you could plan a collapse better than this is playing out. For all I know this was planned.

      • RAHeinlein

        Socialism for all, but as I have stated before, Boomers and government employees are set. Bailouts for most companies simply reinforce pay/benefits for the current unions and their pensioners. So, the haves keep theirs and then some.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    I wasn’t frightened in the least by the Kung Flu.

    Now I’m really really nervous. The disease is nothing, compared to the “cure”.

    • Toxteth O’Grady

      I liked the odds.

    • Chipwooder

      Absolutely true. This has descended into pure madness.

      • Charles Easterly

        “This has descended into pure madness.”

        With regards to your statement that a “pure madness” level has been achieved, Chipper I disagree with you .

        Is it not possible or even probable that the “panic” will advance/spread?

      • Chipwooder

        Oh, sure, it could get worse, much worse even. This is still lunacy, though. We have governors ordering people to stay in their houses for indefinite periods of time because of a fucking seasonal illness.

        It’s one thing to say “Take this seriously – wash your hands frequently, stay home if you’re sick and even suspect you might have this, try to avoid other people”. It’s another thing entirely to start LARPing the movie Contagion as if there are millions of corpses piling up.

      • Q Continuum

        The next step after that literally is martial law. Hell, it practically already is martial law.

    • westernsloper

      “She’s from a small town outside Pittsburgh,” the can declared. “It’s considerably smaller since she left.”

      LOL

    • DEG

      I’ve drunk Olde Frothingslosh.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    For all I know this was planned.

    They sure as Hell seized the opportunity when it presented itself.

  24. Yusef drives a Kia

    Thanks Tonio! I laughed again, Be safe

  25. Sean

    Whelp, I filed for my first unemployment benefits in my entire life. FUCK YOU GOVERNOR WOLF!

    • leon

      DENIED: State will not pay out due to state inability to process during the coronavirus.

      • Ozymandias

        There was only one catch and that was Catch-22…
        Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.
        “That’s some catch, that Catch-22,” he observed.
        “It’s the best there is,” Doc Daneeka agreed.

      • Don Escaped Texas

        Just tell ’em you’re crazy. They hafta ground you if you’re crazy.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Started watching the mini-series on Hulu. Not bad so far. They had that dialogue verbatim.

      • Sean

        *racks AK*

    • DEG

      Sorry.

  26. straffinrun

    Same Old Quaratine

    I spread my Corona in the grocery store
    The snow was falling quarantine Eve
    I jizzed behind her in the frozen foods
    And I wiped it on her sleeve

    She didn’t recognize the taste at first
    But then her eyes flew open wide
    She went to slug me and she spilled her puss
    And we laughed until we cried

    We took her groceries to the test kit stand
    The food was bundled up and tagged
    We stood there lost in our embarrassment
    As the conversation dragged

    Went to kill ourselves a Chink or two
    But couldn’t find a Sushi bar
    I got a six pack from the liquor store
    And we methed up in her car

    We drank a toast to incompetence
    We drank a toast to now
    We tried to reach around the emptiness
    But neither one knew how

    She said she’s married her a bureaucrat
    Who kept her (gesture) warm and safe and dry
    She would have liked to say she fucked the man
    But she didn’t like to lie

    I said the years had been a friend to her
    And that her thighs were filled with goo
    But in that brown eye I wasn’t sure if I saw
    Doubt or gobs of spooge.

    She said she saw me in the porno stores
    And that I must be hung quite well
    I said the audience was heavenly
    But the gargling was Hell

    We drank a toast to incompetence
    We drank a toast to now
    We tried to reach around the emptiness
    But neither one knew how

    We drank a toast to incompetence
    We drank a toast to time
    Reliving, in our eloquence
    Another “Quarantine”

    The pipe was empty and our tongues were tired
    And running out of things to spray
    She gave a kiss to me as I got out
    And I watched her stumble away

    Just for a moment I was back at school
    And felt that old familiar pain
    And, as I turned to make my way back home
    I coughed into the rain

    • RAHeinlein

      Nicely done!

      • straffinrun

        Drunk posting. Apologies to RobC.

    • juris imprudent

      Weird Al cries in despair.

  27. Don Escaped Texas

    The government is full of selfish, malicious bureaucrats who are secretly and privately well-regulated and able to undermine both Congress and the President.

    The government is full of incompetent bureaucrats who can’t organize or discharge even their primary duties; they wouldn’t last the first day in the private sector.

    • leon

      Budwiser: This Bud’s for you!

      Miller: It’s Miller time!

      Pabst: Since 1944 the quality has always come through!

      Schlitz: I will murder you and feed your corpse to a mountain lion! Do you understand me?

      • Chipwooder

        It’s one of the most surreal ads I’ve ever seen, especially since it was made in 1977 when TV and advertising was much less edgy.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Team Blue said as soon as Trump got elected that there would be a recession. (See, e.g., Krugman, Paul and NYT). When the economy didn’t collapse, then the DNC and its Media lackeys told us that it would be totes worth it to crash the economy if it got Orange Hitler out of office. From Bill Maher to late night hosts to DNC Operatives with bylines to members of Congress, a big and loud chunk of Team Blue tweeted their hopes for an economic collapse. I believe this site may have one of the most comprehensive compilations of those self-destructive statements. I take people at their word – if they say they want to tank the economy, and then when the opportunity arises to do so and they do it, I think it’s reasonable to believe them.

    There was an absolutely exultant thing on the MSNBC Business Channel website a day or two ago, about how this panicdemic is proving to Americans just how desperately they need the protection of Big Nanny, and that President Cartoon Villain’s attempts to drain the swamp and destroy the infrastructure of government have put us all at Death’s mercy.

    Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Bad Orange Man!

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”

      We know. The problems is that too many of them really do believe the hobgoblins they’ve imagined. For example, I think Bernie Sanders really does believe that agreeing to work for someone is exploitative. And that the workers are not getting paid what they’re worth and need to be helped.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That’s because Sanders has never worked a day in his damned life other than to promote his politics.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      On the other side, they’re going to take the EU out at the same time.

      • Gustave Lytton

        And it was happening there first, in portion to earlier increase in deaths/rate of increase.

        No doubt cheering from the sidelines or advocating their usual big gov/socialist poison, but deliberate planning to do this? They aren’t that smart.

  29. LCDR_Fish

    Yuengling has the history but not the market share?

    • robc

      Yuengling almost went under in the 70s.

      It was being sold, and it turned out the buyer was the son of the owner, buying it against his Father’s wishes, because the Father thought it was a dead end business.

      • DEG

        I saw an interview with the son that said his father sold it to him when the father was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s.

      • robc

        I think the story I saw was not necessarily 100% accurate. So it may have been that he didnt take over before then because his Father didnt want him to. The big point was, Yuengling was at its nadir.

      • DEG

        The interview I saw talked about that.

        The fall-out between Dick Yuengling and his father was over Dick wanting his father to pump money into the brewery, money which Dick didn’t know that his father didn’t have. When Dick took over, he pumped a shit-ton of money that he made from his beer distributor into the brewery in order to turn out around.

      • robc

        That makes more sense. Will have to stop telling the other version.

      • DEG

        I found two interviews: here and here.

    • robc

      Wait for the later charts, they will jump up there by 2000.

    • Nephilium

      Yuengling is now technically one of the largest craft brewery in the world. Since the BA changed the rules for “craft brewery” at least. 🙂

      Unless things have changed, one of the largest non AB-InBev owned brewery’s was Pabst, who did most (all at one point, though that may have changed) of their items through contract brewing.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    I’ll have a “Quaratini” please. Made with rubbing alcohol and the blood of the innocent.

  31. DEG

    Nice read. Thanks! I like the old beer advertisements. A brewpub in central PA that I like has a selection of old-timey beer advertisements on signs hanging around one of their bar areas.

    I think I’ll have a Lager after I get done work.

    • Chipwooder

      Yes indeed. I love poking around the breweriana section on Ebay. I almost never buy anything, because I neither have the spare cash to justify buying such stuff nor the rec room/basement/whatever type room to put it in, but I love that stuff.

  32. Scruffy Nerfherder

    “Then untruth came to the Russian land. The main trouble, the root of the future evil, was loss of faith in the value of one’s own opinion. People imagined that the time when they followed the urgings of their moral sense was gone, that now they had to sing to the general tune and live by foreign notions imposed on everyone. The dominion of the ready-made phrase began to grow—first monarchistic, then revolutionary.”

    – Pasternak

    • Q Continuum

      It’s been growing for a long time, social media accelerated the contagion.

  33. Chipwooder

    I will say this much: the beer advertising of my youth was extraordinarily effective. I remember watching those Old Milwaukee ads and thinking that it would be so great if my adult life someday was like the guys in those commercials.

    Alas, it didn’t quite work out that way.

  34. Ozymandias

    robc – my apologies for the OT stuff. Wanted to say this is great and makes me want to read the rest, so I’m going to go back and read the other parts and catch up. Thank you!

  35. The Other Kevin

    Illinois going full lock down tomorrow. I have little hope of us avoiding that in Indiana. Despite 79 cases and 2 deaths out of 1.6 million residents.

    • leon

      Now that everyone is doing it i’m afraid that it will even happen here.

      • Tres Cool

        During the daily presser, our POS statist DeWine actually hinted that it’s coming for Ohio.
        Not today…but I just know he’s itching to close it down.

      • Gender Traitor

        I’m shocked that he didn’t.

      • Tres Cool

        He said his office keeps getting calls and emails about “non-compliant businesses endangering public health”. Mmmhmm, Mike. Im sure you do.

        He also kinda lied on WLW when he was talking to Bill Cunningham, “this virus, this corona virus is something completely new, something we have no experience with…” (my paraphrasing)

        Cornavirus was dicovered in the 60s, so from that angle, its a lie. However, I believe Bat-Soup variety is new….so that’s true.
        However, the way he said it wasnt to instill confidence.

        #RecallMike!

      • Nephilium

        #Fuck DeWine!

    • Drake

      It’s just insane.

      Here’s plan several orders of magnitude cheaper. Pay generic drug manufacturers a few $billion to produce Chloroquine and mail a month’s supply to every American. Then lift all this other shit and declare victory over terror, fear, or whatever the hell we are fighting this time (prosperity?)>.

    • Chipwooder

      114 cases, 2 deaths was the update here today in a state with 8.5 million people. It’s another Black Death!!!!

      • robc

        They must have fallen out of your ass.

      • leon

        Ambulance Chasers rub their hands together:

        in 30 years

        ATTENTION! Were you or a loved one treated with Chloroquine for the Coronoavirus-19 from the period of Jan 1 – Sep 30 2020? You may be entitled to compensation….

      • Drake

        They are considering some wild-ass legislation right now – blanket immunity for that treatment would be an easy one to pass.

      • The Other Kevin

        Awesome. Now it will just take 3-6 months for the FDA to approve it!

      • robc

        Trump has already XOed over the top of them.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Has he though? I’ve been seeing conflicting information on whether he’s actually done that or not.

      • robc

        Who knows. It is weird…the Euro researchers didnt want it to be true, they were pushing for a more expensive drug combo. Which might work too.

        And the FDA doesnt want it to roll out too fast.

        I am not a conspiracy guy, but I get it.

      • Drake

        If doctors and pharma companies start trying out different drug combinations and discovering they are good treatments – without the guiding (interfering, intruding, delaying) hand of the FDA – people might start questioning why we have an FDA.

      • invisible finger

        The FDA’s purpose is the same as TSA – to shield companies in a select industry from lawsuits.

      • Drake

        That’s the one thing that gives me some bit of hope – that Trump recognizes that this is unnecessary bullshit and starts blasting bureaucrats and petty tyrants out of the way.

      • R C Dean

        Now it will just take 3-6 months for the FDA to approve it!

        I know any doctor can prescribe chloroquine right now, off-label. The tard from the FDA yesterday babbling about “studies” and “compassionate use” should be fired in a Presidential press conference. He was completely wrong.

        I see no reason why azithromycin couldn’t also be prescribed off-label right now, too. No waiver or anything required, as far as I know.

        Just fucking do it. Maybe a public announcement from the FDA confirming what is already the case would be helpful.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Tweet that shit toTucker Carlson, supposedly Trump watches his show. Also, disband the FDA.

      • Drake

        If only I had an account…

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        excellent

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Well hopefully he saw it then which also works for me.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I saw that study a couple of weeks ago but I didn’t realize it was quite so old. I’d just chalk its not being disseminated to good old bureaucratic incompetence and general dumbfuckery before you go all Alex Jones.

      • Drake

        I suppose… takes off hat, kicks dirt…

        But if the “shelter in place” shit continues to escalate, I’m putting it back on.

  36. RAHeinlein

    How many people grew up with a Hamm’s lighted beer sign in their rec room? “From the land of sky-blue waters”

    • Chipwooder

      Didn’t have that, but I did have more beer paraphernalia than most kids my age because my grandparents owned a liquor store and would get tons of promo items from distributors.

      Interesting thing is that they were pretty much all from imports – I remember having a Lowenbrau poster, a St Pauli Girl clock, a whole bunch of t-shirts (Moosehead, Tsingtao, Beck’s, etc). The only thing domestic I can remember is a big foam Michelob sign.

      • Don Escaped Texas

        Coors Lite: patio furniture umbrella
        Heineken: golfbag
        Schlitz: beach mat
        Miller: insulted cooler
        Coke: big tea glasses and lots of Santa stuff
        can openers and too many other little tchotchke to remember

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      I’ll be Damned! in my Garage years ago……

    • pistoffnick

      I wore a Bear Whiz Beer t-shirt to school

      • invisible finger

        Gotta love Firesign Theater.

    • Fatty Bolger

      Didn’t have that, but my friends and I all had beer can collections in our room. We all got hooked by the great beer can collecting craze of 1980.

      You know, I never really thought about how our parents must have felt about all these junior high aged kids having hundreds of beer cans in their rooms. They were good sports about it, though I seem to remember my Mom asking some roundabout questions about how we were getting the cans.

    • IRBE

      Little Kings Cream Ale…little killers

    • juris imprudent

      He could of exhorted them to shoot more accurately so that the targets could go straight to the morgue.

      • R C Dean

        Publish a handy guide, as a public service.

        (1) Close the range to your target. No more than 5 yards should be your goal.

        (2) Obtain the correct sight picture – remember, center mass is your friend!

        etc.

      • Suthenboy

        You misspelled ‘should’

    • Shirley Knott

      Yes. Yes, it is.

    • Rhywun

      LOL

  37. The Late P Brooks

    this headline made me laugh:

    I laughed, too. Thanks.

  38. Timeloose

    I’m liking the history of US beer series. I missed but back read parts 1&2.

    We are lucky to still have one of the remaining breweries to survive prohibition in NE PA. The Lion brewery absorbed most of the other locals around that time including Stegmeier, Gibbons, and others.

    The Lion brewery makes good beer, especially their porter. They maintained themselves by contract brewing for smaller companies and a lot of soda and Malta beverages.

  39. Gustave Lytton

    I miss Weinherd’s Blue Boar Ale & Hefeweizen in the short squat bottles and heavy cardboard boxes.

    • juris imprudent

      Whoa, that’s a throwback for me too. Did they go under or just kill that line?

      • Gustave Lytton

        Hefeweizen is gone. Blue Boar is on the website, but I haven’t seen in stores for a while. But neither it nor Private Reserve are the same. In long necks brewed wherever now. Full Sail was contract brewing it for several years after the Tumwater (Olympia) brewery closed, where it was being brewed after the Weinherd brewery closed in 1999. After those two, the beer just didn’t taste the same.

  40. UnCivilServant

    *sigh*

    The commute home was four mouse clicks. I can’t shake that damn work mindset.

    Teaching the new guy how to fill out the Time codes so that our work is billed to the correct agencies was a reminder of just how stupid the system is. For reference, I’m used to the process, but it can take me upwards of an hour to fill in time codes because they’re so tedious and fucking stupid.

    • Tres Cool

      What do you charge the time you spent filling out time sheets to ?

      • Rhywun

        My company would go through phases where they required that crap for awhile before just letting it fade away. I made sure to detail exactly how long it took me every day to fill out the stupid time sheets.

      • Tres Cool

        What about the cover sheet for your TPS reports ?

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        We have to bill our time, but there’s a big bucket for 80% of the stuff we do, so its not only annoying, but completely worthless as a metric. I end up just using the big bucket for everything so that I can be done in 30 seconds.

  41. Not Adahn

    To Genmark Porta300P designer: If installing a single part means I need to use a 5/64″, a 1/16″ and a 0.05″ Allen key, you’re a shitty engineer.

    • robc

      To change my battery in my last GM car required both a US and metric tool kit.

      • hayeksplosives

        Same with the alternator in my Jeep Cherokee.

      • Don Escaped Texas

        DaimlerChrysler: merger of equals systems

    • Don Escaped Texas

      I redesigned some equipment for Siemens years ago (2004?) while building the prototypes.

      For example, four fasteners were all upped to ø10mm. Three brackets were reduced to one with all three bolt-patterns and and all dog-ears.

      German designs for the French mails: * shakes head, shrugs, walks away *

      • Sensei

        Problem is you know the 10mm socket and wrench will be missing from your toolbox.

        I believe Amazon sells them in bulk…

      • Not Adahn

        No toolboxes. Have storage built into the equipment with all (and only those) tools needed.

        Using the same tool on multiple pieces of equipment then putting it into a tool box is how you spread coronavirus.

  42. The Late P Brooks

    To Genmark Porta300P designer: If installing a single part means I need to use a 5/64″, a 1/16″ and a 0.05″ Allen key, you’re a shitty engineer.

    I fucking hate that. One part, one wrench, goddammit.

    • Not Adahn

      I had an XRD made by Panalytical that could be completely dissassembled — even the x-ray tube! with only two wrenches.

      • Tres Cool

        XRDs are fun! When I worked at the steel mill, our scrap people had a couple Niton guns.

        I used to go around holding it to everything to see what was in it.

      • Not Adahn

        Those were probably XRFs

        XRF can tell you that the white material has got titanium in it.

        XRD can tell you the ratio of rutile to anatase. Unfortunately, they aren’t portable.

        Also, I dare anyone to tell me that this wasn’t deliberately designed to look like a phaser

        https://images.app.goo.gl/UqApbQjGYcYwGpEx8

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        My neighbor is some sort of senior sales director for Fischer and has a Niton in the house – always fun to play with. Can confirm wedding ring really is platinum.

        He went to big jewelry show in Vegas last year and those guys were offering to buy his demo unit on the spot.

      • Not Adahn

        There are a couple of Brukers floating around here for first-pass scans of “is this stain metallic or biologic?”

      • Tres Cool

        thats the one

        “Is this REALLY inconel? By golly it is!”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Junior engineer mistakes

      I used to make new engineers go out on the floor and assemble theirown product. It was instructive.

      • pistoffnick

        “Junior engineer…”

        Don’t get me started. I have seen some awfully smart (and full of themselves) engineers without a lick of common sense or practical knowledge.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I call them junior engineers too.

        “It doesn’t matter if it works if we can’t make it for a profit.”

  43. robc

    How long do I have to wait for a online meeting that the host hasn’t shown up for? Especially since I have nothing to contribute? I think at 3:15, I will hang up.

    • R C Dean

      5 minutes minimum, no more than 15 minutes maximum. Where you make the call in that window is up to you.

    • invisible finger

      I treat it like college. If there’s no word in 10 minutes what the hold up is, leave.

  44. grrizzly

    Mass. is not sheltering in place, for now. Once in a while Baker does something right; I’m not generally a fan.

    Gov. Charlie Baker said Thursday that despite “uncertain and unsettling times,” Massachusetts is not planning a forced shelter in place as a means to blunt the spread of the deadly coronavirus.

    “Obviously, it’s heartbreaking, to say the least, but this is certainly a day that we all knew would come,” the governor said, referencing the state’s first COVID-19 related death, a man in his 80s from Suffolk County. “I know that these are uncertain and unsettling times for everyone, and I know we are asking a great deal of the people of Massachusetts.”

    He said there are still no plans for a shelter in place similar to the ones other states have imposed.

    • R C Dean

      I’m glad they clarified that he was heartbroken about the dead guy, and not the lack of martial law.

      • RAHeinlein

        RC Dean: We were discussing hospital visitor restrictions the other day. Just hit our family. My MIL suffered a stroke last night and was taken to a Tuscon hospital ER. My FIL was initially allowed to stay with her in the ER, initial treatment was promising but a few hours later BP skyrocketed, another CT, treatments, etc. FIL told to leave hospital and someone would call with updates. Four hours later no updates, returned calls.

      • Gender Traitor

        Oh no! Hope she’s OK! : (

      • Shirley Knott

        Damn, that sucks. Best wishes to you and the extended family.

      • Ted S.

        My condolences. Somebody will probably try to invoke HIPAA too.

      • Mojeaux

        Oh goodness gracious! Stress on top of stress and grief. *smh*

      • DEG

        Sorry.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        That’s awful, sorry to hear it.

    • slumbrew - double secret satan

      Tall Deval gets one right.

      (I usually hate political nicknames, but that one is just too on the nose)

    • Rhywun

      He should expect a sternly-worded phone call from Cuomo, then.

      That asshole is still playing the “I control every other state in my orbit” game.

    • slumbrew - double secret satan

      I should probably refill my propane tank before someone talks him out of his sane position.

  45. The Late P Brooks

    Parts/wrenches, cont’d:

    My early ’70s BMWs copuld be almost completely assembled/disassembled with 10, 13 and 17 mm wrenches.

    • ron73440

      My ’01 Ram seems to be randomly assembled from metric and standard parts.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      That was expected.

      Their entire system is at risk. They’re going to lie, lie, lie in an effort to stave off the lamppost hangings.

    • DEG

      Orgy.

    • Q Continuum

      Comrades must have their Victory Gin after all!

      • Gustave Lytton

        Not in PA!

    • Rhywun

      Yay, party time!

      • Ted S.

        At least until Cuomo’s goons say no.

  46. Not Adahn

    The wisdom of Caesar

    “Ventilators are to this war what missiles were to WWII,”

    Used primarily by the Nazis?

  47. Q Continuum

    So I’m thinking a Chiappa Rhino.

    Thoughts?

    • slumbrew - double secret satan

      You should get a leather duster and wrap-around shades to go with it, to complete the look.

    • l0b0t

      I very much want one as an EDC piece once I leave the People’s Republic of NY. The 2 inch barrel in .357/.38. Truth be told I would love two of them for dual wielding.

  48. Mojeaux

    Still on my Reuben sandwich kick and have plenty of supplies for that, but I am out of Bit O Honeys. I am lost and alone and afraid.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Beat sandwich ever, nothing beats a good Reuben.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Best sandwich too…

      • pistoffnick

        Normally I would agree with you, but I have been on a French Dip kick lately

      • Mojeaux

        Worst Reuben I ever had was in NYC.

        SMH.

  49. Fourscore

    Murphy, gov of NJ says NJ, NY, CT and a couple more to the north need 100 Billion fed money and THEY NEED IT NOW!

    Time to cut ’em loose…