Well, Mrs. L has declared that everyone is staying home now. “For the baby.” I’m glad we have a replacement on the way, because I’m pretty sure one of the two running around isn’t gonna make it through an 11-day minimum home isolation. We’ll see.
Italy’s death-toll from coronavirus surpasses China’s announced deaths. I know which set of numbers I trust, and which ones I think are low.
Oh yeah, we’re totally ready for online learning. Let’s see if my kindergartner is better at using Microsoft Teams than my actual team.
Elephants raid farm for food, discover corn wine. “After drinking the lot the elephants were somewhat the worse for wear. Two males passed out, drunk, in one of the tea gardens nearby.”
Strip club adapts to the times.
Okay, this made me laugh.
Doctor Sleep was surprisingly good.
Really? I went with Color Out of Space instead, and began to regret it about an hour in.
I haven’t seen Color Out of Space yet. I’ve only seen the director’s cut of Doctor Sleep, but I’ve heard it’s better than the theatrical version from people who have seen both.
I reread the story recently. Fortunately, before the epidemic panic. Much depressing. So interminable.
The movie was my wife’s introduction to Lovecraft, which is weird given how avid a reader she is and that she’s been 25 for the past 15 years, and I kept having to stop and say, “Yeah, the thing is, Lovecraft sort of alludes to a lot of the stuff that’s grossing you out right now.” I thought it was alright, but she was turned off by it pretty quick. I think I graded it on a curve because I grew up reading Lovecraft and am still a huge fan of “mythos” stuff.
Still need to watch Die Farbe (should be free on Amazon Prime right now). (German indie Color out of Space from a few years ago).
Interesting, I’ll have to check that out.
https://www.amazon.com/Color-Out-Space-Marco-Leibnitz/dp/B07FY3FHCT/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=color+out+of+space&qid=1584652931&sr=8-2
I appreciate having yinz guys work on providing links and comments to give me something to do while I “WFH”.
That doesn’t makes sense considered there are way more people in China and that’s where it started.
If you betray the Chinese Communist Party by contracting this capitalist virus, you no longer count as human, so your death doesn’t have to be reported.
Comrade Ruodberht will receive a bump to his social credit score.
*laughter*
Look for an uptick in China’s reported deaths due to smoking. I predict that’s where they will bury the “excess” CCP Virus numbers.
““On Saturday we’re doing nude triple-X hand sanitizer wrestling,” Carlson said. “We have about 20 gallons of hand sanitizer, and we’re doing a cool nude hand sanitizer wrestling show.””
I’ve never been so proud to be American.
I feel like that might sting if you aren’t careful.
It’s the expired drums of Jesse brand lube that we repackaged as gallon pump jars of hand sanitizer.
Perhaps there should be disclosure to the volunteer wrestlers of the risk of stinging involved.
Or it could have the benefit of cleanin’ some things out, IYKWIM
That sounds like a bad idea; isopropyl alcohol is readily absorbed through the skin, and is metabolized into acetone by the liver. Using enough hand sanitizer to lube up a body and you’re going to end up with some really fucked up strippers.
Purell uses ethanol.
Oh, that’s fine then. Drunk strippers are much better than sober ones, let alone dead ones.
Is there another kind?
“Trump announces anti-malaria drug is APPROVED to treat coronavirus – but has to walk back the good news after FDA head says it is only green lit for ‘compassionate use’ in some patients
The US is fast-tracking the anti-malarial drug chloroquine for use as a treatment against the new coronavirus, President Donald Trump said Thursday.
‘They’ve gone through the approval process – it’s been approved. They took it down from many, many months to immediate. So we’re going to be able to make that drug available by prescription.’
But the FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn later indicated that, while the drug has not yet been formally approved, access to it was being expanded so that authorities could gather more data.
‘We’re going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately, and that’s where the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) has been so great,’ Trump told reporters.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8131613/US-fast-tracking-anti-malarial-drug-treat-coronavirus-Trump.html
So, a good stiff gin and tonic? Sounds legit. /empire man
Everyone keeps saying that but according to Wiki, the tonic water has vastly less quinine than it did 75 years ago for…reasons.
Because malaria deaths are down…
Trump should have slapped that douche away from the podium and announced doctors can prescribe it any damn time they think it might help. I stupidly assumed any doctor could prescribe it after South Korea had success.
Would a libertarian president just abolish having prescriptions?
Would a constitutional president say that prescriptions are a matter for the states?
Any good doctor would but the CDC is more interested in preserving and exercising their power than preserving lives. This pandemic is their wet dream.
I would think they can prescribe it off label although the liability risk might be high. Trump just needs to fire any FDA douche that’s pushing back immediately.
BUT if we relax regulations in times of emergency, then what leg do we have to stand on to have them during normal times? Trump is doing it all backwards.
I love this angle. Usually, “emergencies” are cited to justify new regs. I can hardly wait to see the pretext for all these regs snapping back into effect when there is no emergency.
“Hey, if this stupid reg was suspended to save lives during the CCP Virus pandemic, then won’t putting it back into effect cost lives?”
I would usually agree, but I’m thinking about what happens if that is also applied to antibiotics.
Right now, I have my crack compliance and human subject research staff looking into whether we can just use chloroquine “off-label” for CCP Virus victims. I think chloroquine is a generic drug, in which case docs can probably just start dosing people with it whenever they want. Unless the FDA is running an informational study, I’m not sure what they are doing.
But that’s why I have people looking into it.
Thanks for letting us know.
“compassionate use” usually means “hospice” – so they guy is talking out his ass..
It should probably be administered by a doctor of an actual coronavirus patient – meaning if someone isn’t suffering from the virus then they should not be using it. Treat it as a type of chemo-therapy; no need to take it if you have the virus and aren’t having complications.
What are the risks/side effects of chloroquine? Maybe it is just because we drink quinine as a soft drink/mixer, but I had always chalked it up as pretty much hamless. I don’t know how chloroquine differs, any medical folk or chemists want to chime in? Woud OMWC treat his toytots with chloroquine?
From the LV drive up strip club article:
“…nude triple-X hand sanitizer wrestling…”
Uhm. owwwww! That’s gonna sting.
I’m not usually a praying person, but I will make an exception for all the Glibboys currently living with a pregnant woman.
One of the girls at work today gave me a bottle of hand sanitizer with glitter in it. “This way, you can pretend your hand is a stripper.”
I have very helpful co-workers.
“Not only do I treat women as objects, Ive been known to treat objects like…..women.”
/I may have read that here
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like WOMEN, maaaaan
Cock sanitizer
Were only a few days behind Italy.
I thought the earth rotated faster than that?
So the corpses will be overflowing the morgue by Sunday?
A quick look shows our august betters saying ’10 to 16′, ’10 to 14′, ’11’, and ’13 to 16′. Just to be safe, when ‘overflowing the morgue’ does not happen in at least 16 days, then you can assume that government, respected media, and their experts are lying to you. The next step is to become a libertarian, anarchist, Glibertarian, or something along those lines …
Were only a few days behind Italy.
Except for the older demographic in Italy, the higher rate of smokers in Italy, and the much higher number of hospital beds per capita in the US.
But other than differences in the major variables, yeah, we’re just like Italy.
Don’t forget (1) the large numbers of expat Chinese (working in the textile industries that the Chinese had previously bought from the Italians) living in and around the epicentre of the Italian outbreak, who were commuting back-and-forth between Milan and environs and Hubei province (where Wuhan is located) until well after the outbreak began in Wuhan; and (2) the fact that Italy has the highest rate of antibiotic resistance deaths in Europe.
We’re not out of the woods, necessarily, but we ain’t gonna be Italy, either.
Have any of these idiots ever been to Italy?!?
It’s a wonderful place, but the idea that it is ‘first world’ is laughable.
I had an older brother who born premature while mom was in Milano. The ‘hospital’ there had neither glass or screens on the windows… in 1970. PJ O’Rourke was quite right when he quipped that “Technically, Italy is NOT a third world country.
But nobody seems to have told the Italians.“
My only knowledge comes from the episode of The Sopranos when they were walking on the beach – which looked filthier than the Barone Sanitation dump.
OMWC’s van has been offering the same service for several decades.
Little Darlings
Terrible stripclub name. I’m still a fan of Illum n’ Naughty
Place is terrible so I am told. Their tag line is funny though…
1000s of beautiful girls and 3 ugly ones
That’s the slogan for Deja Vu in Minneapolis. BTW, Deja Vu is French for “I can’t get no pussy”.
Deja Vu has nothing you haven’t seen before…
Why are the three ugly ones always working when I visit?
We’re all home-schooling, prepping, Alex Joneses now.
Speaking of schooling, the Handicapper General is fighting the good fight.
https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2020/03/coronavirus-closure-wont-lead-to-online-classes-in-oregon-public-schools-this-is-why.html
I mean, if you can’t be trusted to pump your own gas, do you think the state is going to trust you to figure out an online class?
Worse than that
Not educating students needs to be front and center. Bullshit positive rights. Siegel should be dragged from his office and his employment terminated on the spot. Unfortunately his is a symptom of the public schools establishment and not unique.
That is disgusting. So because some may not have access, no one should have access?
Not every student has equal access to parents who are going to force and help their kids with the online classes. So i guess we should just can it until we can strip kids from their parents, to make sure everyone has equal footing.
Wasn’t that the case in Plato’s Republic?
Plato’s Repubic is the root source for leftism and totalitarianism.
Yep. And it is disgusting. Downright evil.
This whole thing is ripping a lot of masks off. Leftists are a death cult.
But how many people will pay attention? Emperor has no clothes with people pretending the masks are still there.
“Nobody gets a scooter until everyone has a bicycle. Nobody gets a car until everyone has a scooter.” /commie punk ignoring Zil driving by
Chrysler K-Car knockoff, anyone?
A nice reliant automobile?
I’ll take the nice chesterfield instead.
K-Car? The ZiL is nowhere near as technologically advanced.
And no, I’m not kidding.
Disgusting.
Because some students don’t have tablets and have slow internet.
And special needs. Everyone must be lowered to the same denominator. It’s the same philosophy as mainstreaming special needs and disruptive students at the expense of everyone else.
So we’re all retards now too. Terrific.
No, it’s due the compulsory nature of school. My son would be disruptive in a mainstream classroom. He’s also way too advanced for a special needs classroom. If he has to go to the local public school because the government has forced me to send him with threat of jail, then damned straight he’s going to sit in the mainstream classroom.
Both of those sound like shit options for my son, so we homeschool him. Unfortunately, many states restrict parents’ ability to homeschool and other parents don’t have the funding to homeschool after it’s already been taken from them to fund the public schools.
Take away the compulsory nature of school and forced taxes to pay for it and the whole problem disappears.
My sister goes round and round with her town on this with her son. The school doesn’t really care if they are teaching him anything.
Exactly, the schools don’t give a shit. And special education classrooms are depressing circles of hell. The one in the elementary school closest to us when the teacher’s aide turned the special ed teacher in for beating some of the students. That made the news and the teacher went to jail.
One of my wife’s patients had been raped daily for months by another student without the teacher realizing. 6 year-old nonverbal kid couldn’t tell anyone.
But then we lose our government-funded, forced indoctrination factories.
/leftist
I wish I had the wherewithal to homeschool because my son desperately needed that. However, a) I can’t teach anything worth shit, b) my son and I mix like gas and fire, and c) I’ve been in survival mode since he was born and must work.
That said, I regret not being able to.
Yesterday, I had him scanning old photographs of my travels. He kept asking me where this was and where that was. “That was when I went to South Dakota.”
“Where’s that?”
I actually turned around and gaped at him. “Don’t they teach you geography in school?”
“Probably but I might not have been listening.”
*headdesk*
There were several other states I mentioned and…he didn’t know where any of them were. Shit, I had been so angry that my daughter didn’t know that I made her memorize all 50 states AND every nation in Europe and Eurasia.
I don’t have the energy to do that again.
Crikey.
I missed your mid-day article will catch up later.
I missed your mid-day article will catch up later.
Same here.
Sorry about your kid headaches Mojeaux.
Thanks. My biggest problem is that I just don’t know how to deal with him most days, and he and his dad keep their distance.
Do you have any other male friends/family who can take a crack at him? He’s at an age when there is almost no way he’s listening to his dad.
No.
I’m going to let him get a job soon and hope that will rein him in somewhat, with people who a) don’t know him, b) have no vested interest in putting up with his bullshit [like, say, school and church], and c) can tell him to shove his attitude up his ass along with his last paycheck. If he lasts a week at McDonald’s with his attitude, I’ll be shocked.
I’ve taken his business away from him for various reasons, so unless he gets a job and can keep it, he will have no income.
Emancipation is always on the table.
Now, he’s screamed at me that he doesn’t want to be here. Okay, that’s fine, but you can’t be emancipated for 2 more years. So this is what we are going to do:
1) You can pay rent and your portion of the utilities and then you will be our roommate and not part of the family. You will buy all your own food and your own phone service and your own wifi and your own cable.
AND
2) We will make a plan for you to be emancipated when you are 16 so that you don’t fall on your face, and we will spend the next 2 years preparing for this.
He doesn’t like either of those options, so his only OTHER option is to act like a halfway decent human being. As long as he’s doing that, he can stay as long as he wants.
IF he can keep a job and IF he can manage not to blow his money on stupid shit, he’ll dart out the door on his 18th birthday.
I’m going to let him get a job soon and hope that will rein him in somewhat,
I think it will.
Teens that are at war with the parents and their teachers are not necessarily going to be at war with employers or other adults. I speak as a kid that spent my teens in screaming fights with my overly controlling and religious mother, and about half my teachers. With the other half of my teachers, and most people I worked for I was a favorite student/employee. Sometimes it is about personality clashes, built up anger over past interactions, a lack of trust, and not about the kid being a ‘bad seed’.
I totally agree with Jarflax.
Again.
Shit. 😉
I hope, for his sake, that that is so.
You’ve before spoken of your troubles with your mother, and I can appreciate that because I had my own troubles with my very controlling and not-altogether-very-wise dad, which was a very bad combination.
And I can admit that I haven’t been a terribly good parent, but I try. His therapist told me I haven’t done anything that can’t be fixed, BUT he DID admit that XY is a tough nut to crack and has described the exact same kinds of conversations we and his teachers have with him.
Regardless of how it sounds, we do love the kid and I want what’s best for him. When we are not screaming at each other, he and I actually have a decent relationship. Maybe it’s codependency. Maybe it’s just habit.
I can see why it appears that we’re controlling assholes to him over seemingly nothing, but there is a lot more bad stuff going on here that I don’t talk about and won’t talk about, so I’m okay with looking like a controlling asshole to a normal headstrong teenager.
Seriously, I am not in any way accusing you of bad parenting. I have 3 brothers, all younger. The one immediately after me joined the navy, served for 2 or 3 tours and moved to Tulsa and the only contact we have had with him was Mom’s funeral. He hated our mom far mor than I ever did. The next brother adored my mom. The youngest got along with mom, fought with ( outright hates to this day) her second husband.
Kids are not interchangeable. The best parenting in the world for one may end up in a war with another one. If I have any message in my comments here it is don’t burn any bridges, and remember that often problems and troubles that seem overwhelming as they come toward you shrink in the rearview mirror. And my issues with my mom were not exclusively on her part. I am a moody asshole a lot of the time, even today and I was much worse as a teen. (now I will say I think telling the moody asshole teen how worthless and wierd he is, while preaching a deeply repressive creed at him when he is in puberty is likely NOT ideal)
Heavens to Betsy, creeds aren’t going to work and I’m not much of a creed-pusher anyway.
The church stopped subsidizing Scouts and totally pulled away from the BSA, which was a huge financial blow to us because a) he loved it and b) we can’t afford it. It hurts my heart. So many, many problems we have right now that probably wouldn’t be problems if we had Scouts, but it’s expensive and getting more expensive. Who knows how long it’ll last anyway.
He works hard and he’s self-motivated (many of our problems stem from the fact that he is TOO self-motivated). I’m proud of him for wanting to be an entrepreneur, but subsidizing his business is not something I’m willing to do anymore because of his behavior.
He’s motivated by money and I’m hoping that working for someone else as an employee will give him what he needs and fills his time and teaches him some discipline.
Hey Mo! Cost shouldn’t be an impediment to your son being in Scouts BSA… I happen to know of a local Troop that believes this, anyway. Let me know if you (he) is interested.
Just remember, they care about the children.
+1 gay frogs
Keep a tally of how many frogs you turn gay.
“Oh yeah, we’re totally ready for online learning https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/03/18/pinellas-schools-all-set-for-online-learning-leaders-say/. Let’s see if my kindergartner is better at using Microsoft Teams than my actual team.”
Why do we have government-run schools paid for by taxes with semi-mandatory attendance with government oversight over the other options if you can get government approval to get your children into them?
The South and Reconstruction or something. IDK
Two issues: mandatory education and taxation
Should government be involved in trying to ensure a universal minimum of education?
If you like your public schools, you can keep your public schools, as long as you can get voluntary donations to pay for them. Any Glibs support taxes to pay for educating the poor?
Hopefully, if anything good comes of this, it will be to convince organizations that some people should work from home more often. I don’t know if anyone else is getting anything done, but I’ve been cranking out app updates all week. I get way more done at home because there are no constant interruptions by co-workers and it’s much quieter here.
I’m much more productive when i have something to work on.
And you still have time left over after being productive to comment here. As long as your employer is pleased enough with your output that you get paid. Productivity is about amortizing more widgets over the same costs.
“And you still have time left over after being productive to comment here.”
I was told yesterday that I’m allowed to eat food, take a walk, or go to the bathroom while working from home. I didn’t ask about shitposting online, so I’ll just assume that’s OK as well.
I was told yesterday that I’m allowed to eat food, take a walk, or go to the bathroom while working from home
Do you work for the Nazi party? Geeze. Tell them then you are going to work 5 hrs, because when i worked in an office i easily had 3 hours a day wasted by interruptions, bullshit and other crap.
Glad you can be here and get paid.
This is just like working from home, only everyday, and there aren’t any potatoes in any of the stores. This is going to make me have to get out of bed early on the weekend. I don’t like it.
I was at a farm store yesterday with full bins of potatoes. Other than tp, people can’t decide what to hoard.
Here it’s any fresh vegetables, especially potatoes and tomatoes. Stop eating healthy stuff people, that’s government propaganda! The frozen sections are full, eat that instead and it will never spoil in the freezer!
The first few days of the panic buying, there was plenty of fresh produce. I guess when people had their basements and attics filled with TP and water, they decided to make a run on veggies.
Fuck. I’m getting the hell out of the house on Saturday. I don’t even care if it’s just to drive around (20’s/30’s predicted).
I’m going to make a field trip and get to some of the stores farther way from the city. Just as much stuff, but less people, so I figure I will have a better hunting day.
Potatoes and onions were back. Chicken is gone. I asked the meat guy as he was turning a chuck roast into hamburger for me when it would be back and he said, “maybe tomorrow, but we were supposed to get a literal ton of ground beef today and nothing so far.” And then as I was driving away I saw the truck turning in. So maybe.
We actually had some chicken in stock today after none the past two days. There was also more pork chops, as well as ham.
And a lot of bread.
I figure a lot of people are going to realize soon enough that they bought more stuff than they need or can use.
I’ve actually gone the past three days, which I don’t normally do. One day they were almost out of ice cream bars but had a ton of Triscuits.
I didn’t check for canned tuna today since it turns out I’ve got enough here to make Tuna Helper.
“Tuna Helper”
You must be taking a worse beating in the stock market than I am.
Hey, Tuna Helper isn’t bad. It is also a pretty good emergency stock food as the box of dry ingredients and the canned tuna have very long shelf lives.
Tuna Helper was a great treat when I was a kid.
When I was a kid, we were so poor we used Tuna Helper Helper.
We also stuffed the crow with newspaper; my fondest Thanksgiving memory is of getting one of the drumsticks and a sports page.
I like tuna. I like hamburger helper (a great treat! when I was growing up). I do not like tuna helper. For some reason, I just don’t like the flavor combination.
Now, I know that hamburger helper is just a watered-down beef stroganoff and I make that from “scratch” by the stockpots full.
I had a friend jeer at me on my blog when I posted the recipe that it was just hamburger helper and I was cheating by using canned cream of chicken soup and how pathetic was I to use canned cream of chicken soup. I left her comment, but didn’t respond. So in a private forum with about 10 people, she said it again. I said, “What, you weren’t satisfied with saying it the first time and I pointedly ignored it but left the comment, so you had to try again?” Then she played all innocent “I was joking!” Yeah, sure you were. That was when I realized she’d been doing that to me for years and I didn’t get it because it wasn’t offensive, so she didn’t know me too well, I guess, even after 10 years. That relationship didn’t last much longer.
I have heard that crow isn’t bad eating, but people seem reluctant to eat crow for some reason.
Eating Out May Never Be the Same in U.S.
Ellen DeGeneres hardest hit ?
My wife hardest hit.
Don’t worry, sex is always better when it’s forbidden.
Liquor? I barely know her!
An interesting account of a man who returned to Beijing last Saturday.
“so we had to wait for a private vehicle to take us directly to our home.”
The chicoms don’t want anyone seeing the piles of dead bodies they haven’t had time to bury or incinerate yet.
Red hot redhedz to warm you up on this (at least in my neck of the woods) snowy, cold Thot Thursday.
http://archive.li/lDsQq
6 wins “girl I’d most like to be quarantined with”
Those pictures make me want to kill tattooists.
Sorry to those in the previous thread about railguns. I should have stuck around to interact, but work called.
(I did add one more comment to mojo). Clarification: the Navy’s largest gun In use is the Mark 45, a 5 inch gun. That is diameter inches.
Also, yes the equal and opposite reaction is mitigated where possible with recoil, gas handling, and the almighty muzzle flash, among other things.
Technology improvements and all but you have to admit the 16 inch guns on the Iowa class battleships were awesome.
Very much so.
https://youtu.be/dVvEPTYrcXA?t=87
Oh, yeah. That’s (Iowa class 16inchers) are what we had in mind when we pitched the 320MJ gun.
They used them even into Vietnam, where they’d lob a shell inland to a forest from offshore, thus creating a helicopter landing zone. They provided great cover.
We don’t really have a naval force that can do that now. DDG51 have thin armor and are expensive, so they get parked so far off shore, they’re not in great gun range. Need to improve that.
As for the 16 inch, there’s still one at Aberdeen MD. I have a pic of me standing next to it. I’m shorter than the shell.
A family friend was the skipper of the USS Wisconsin, and they used their 16-inch guns to lob shells ashore during the Gulf War.
Ahem, Desert Storm. Both the Missouri and Wisconsin fired shells.
And I’d be remiss if I didn’t link this.
Great moment from Late Night (or whatever it was called), when she performed that song in the same outfit:
David Letterman (paraphrased): “That’s quite an outfit. Did your hotel catch on fire?”
Cher: “You’re an asshole, Dave.”
I got yelled at when I linked that.
Thought it was going to be this.
That’s a goodie too.
I was told in Army that the first series of MOABs were just old 16 inch barrels filled with high explosive and capped at both ends. They make for very effective earth penetration.
“China Is Avoiding Blame by Trolling the World
Beijing is successfully dodging culpability for its role in spreading the coronavirus.
The evidence of China’s deliberate cover-up of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan is a matter of public record. In suppressing information about the virus, doing little to contain it, and allowing it to spread unchecked in the crucial early days and weeks, the regime imperiled not only its own country and its own citizens but also the more than 100 nations now facing their own potentially devastating outbreaks. More perniciously, the Chinese government censored and detained those brave doctors and whistleblowers who attempted to sound the alarm and warn their fellow citizens when they understood the gravity of what was to come.
Some American commentators and Democratic politicians are aghast at Donald Trump and Republicans for referring to the pandemic as the “Wuhan virus” and repeatedly pointing to China as the source of the pandemic. In naming the disease COVID-19, the World Health Organization specifically avoided mentioning Wuhan. Yet in de-emphasizing where the epidemic began (something China has been aggressively pushing for), we run the risk of obscuring Beijing’s role in letting the disease spread beyond its borders.
China has a history of mishandling outbreaks, including SARS in 2002 and 2003. But Chinese leaders’ negligence in December and January—for well over a month after the first outbreak in Wuhan—far surpasses those bungled responses. The end of last year was the time for authorities to act, and, as Nicholas D. Kristof of The New York Times has noted, “act decisively they did—not against the virus, but against whistle-blowers who were trying to call attention to the public health threat.”
This is what allowed the virus to spread across the globe. Because the Chinese Communist Party was pretending that there was little to be concerned about, Wuhan was a porous purveyor of the virus. The government only instituted a lockdown in Wuhan on January 23—seven weeks after the virus first appeared. As events in Italy, the United States, Spain, and France have shown, quite a lot can happen in a week, much less seven. By then, mayor Zhou Xianwang admitted that more than 5 million people had already left Wuhan.
If that weren’t enough, we can plumb recent history for an even more damning account. In a 2019 article, Chinese experts warned it was “highly likely that future SARS- or MERS-like coronavirus outbreaks will originate from bats, and there is an increased probability that this will occur in China.” In a 2007 journal article, infectious-disease specialists published a study arguing that “the presence of a large reservoir of SARS-CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats, together with the culture of eating exotic mammals in southern China, is a time bomb. The possibility of the reemergence of SARS and other novel viruses from animals or laboratories and therefore the need for preparedness should not be ignored.” It was ignored…..
Well before the new coronavirus spread across American cities, the Chinese regime was already rather creatively trolling U.S. publications, expelling American journalists, and “weaponizing wokeness” over anything it perceived as critical of China’s role in mishandling the epidemic. To hear Chinese spokespeople use the language of racism and prejudice is somewhat surreal, considering this is a regime that has put more than 1 million Muslims and ethnic minorities in “reeducation” camps.
Of course, Americans will have to be vigilant against scapegoating Asians in general or the Chinese people in particular. With one of the highest infection rates and death tolls, Chinese citizens have suffered enough. The Chinese leadership, however, is another matter. A government is not a race. It’s a regime—and easily one of the worst and most brutal in our lifetime. Criticizing authoritarian regimes for what they do outside their own borders and to their own people is simply calling things as they are. To do otherwise is to forgo analysis and accuracy in the name of assuaging a regime that deserves no such consideration.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/china-trolling-world-and-avoiding-blame/608332/
What evidence do we have to doubt the Chinese?
“Beijing is successfully dodging culpability for its role in spreading the coronavirus.”
They’re being greatly aided by the NYT and Atlantic.
Apparently not everyone at the Atlantic.
The ChiComms can kiss my Most Favored Ass.
One nit to pick with that is that China or even the Chicom part of it isn’t unitary. Low level party members and bureaucrats in Wuhan and Hubei respond to incentives and are jockeying for power just like functionaries here, both during the initial outbreak and then continuing (such as intercepting supplies destined for other provinces). And when their fuckups embarrass people higher up the chain, they get thrown under the bus.
I think most pundits are grossly misinterpreting China’s intentions, as usual.
It just ain’t about us, honey. All this bullshit is intended for domestic consumption. After the death of the whistleblowing doctor, Li Wenliang, (who despite being healthy and in his 30’s somehow died of a disease that kills the elderly and obese) there was a huge grassroots campaign on Chinese social media – “We Want Free Speech”. That scared the shit out of the CCP. Thus, they, in the tradition of authoritarian dictatorships everywhere, turned to blaming the gringo. It was so successful that Li Wenliang is now able to be officially “rehabilitated”.
Now, of course, a key part of the Chinese strategy was counting on Americans to be dumb and petty. If the people in charge were smart, they would have fallen over backwards to signal their support to the suffering people of Wuhan, both from the virus and from a regime that put them in danger of it by denying them freedom of speech and the press.
Yet, Americans are dumb and petty.
Some Americans.
I was thinking more that individually we are smart but collectively we are retarded.
That applies to every group on the planet.
But yes, I would love to help the Chinese people. I would love to see the CCP leaders all hanging from lampposts.
FEE thinks this might be the end of the shitheads, but I doubt it.
All of us are dumber than any of us.
Perfect example of what I mean. Headline is “Chinese Authorities Admit Improper Response To Coronavirus Whistleblower”. Admit would be something that they did. No, they placed the blame on Wuhan authorities, who in turn blamed the two cops doing their job.
the Chinese government censored and detained those brave doctors and whistleblowers who attempted to sound the alarm
Or possibly worse.
How to be a condescending, sanctimonious douchebag as if your typical Atlantic reader needs coaching in this.
Just as the coronavirus outbreak has so far spread unevenly across the country and the world, so too has the caution that is necessary to mitigate it. For each American leaving home only when absolutely necessary, it seems, there is another who is cavalierly out and about like it’s still 2019.
Many in the former group have been saddled with the terribly vital task of getting those in the latter group to change their ways and stop endangering their own and others’ lives. Government health agencies and other experts have repeatedly emphasized that the decisions people make about leaving the house and sanitizing their surroundings have a significant effect on how quickly the disease spreads.
But how to impress those stakes upon the youths who continue to party and the 60-somethings who still want to get a haircut? I consulted a researcher who studies the psychology of pandemics, a public-health expert, and a clinical psychologist who specializes in families and relationships. Below are their general tips—as well as an example script—for communicating with friends and loved ones who still aren’t taking the pandemic seriously enough.
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One reason people may underrate the gravity of a pandemic is that they harbor doubts about mainstream science or mistrust authority figures, but a pandemic is not the time to address that skepticism. “People have underlying value and belief systems that are very difficult to change,” Piltch-Loeb said. “If we don’t want to get into an existential conversation about all those things, we’re better off focusing on the issue at hand”—say, the need to stop meeting up with friends or running nonessential errands—“and trying to separate it from the core belief system.”
Doubt mainstream science and authority figures? Who would do that?
“Look, it’s right there in the title: they’re ‘Scientific’ and they’re ‘American’. Why don’t you take their every pronouncement as gospel, you luddite? Now go to your room.”
Wait, we’re not supposed to get fucking haircuts now? Fuck youuuuuuuuuu. I do NOT endure long hair goddammit.
Stay out of Ohio.
Im happy I got my hurrcut last weekend. Tho my barber is the kind of guy to tell anyone to fuck off.
Speaking of that…
I’m really beginning to dislike people more.
“Concerned citizens called Cleveland Heights police…” was about all I needed to read.
Christ, what assholes. (prolly their competition tho)
This one will make you really proud to be an Ohioan.
Jesus. Will they send his family a bill for the bullets, too?
Oh, I really hope that Lt. Colonel Paul Needledick (cant really read it) gets pancreatic cancer. Tomorrow.
-1 Flowbee
Medical establishment says wearing long hair down is an infection control issue.
Navy is letting CO’s relax some grooming standards within limits to their discretion…for the duration.
?♂️
If anyone is going to out hackjob the NYT, I think they’ll be the ones.
For each American leaving home only when absolutely necessary, it seems, there is another who is cavalierly out and about like it’s still 2019.
O geeze now they are going to do “Your acting like it is [current year -1]”.
Renumber back in the good old days of early March when you could eat at restaurants and drink at bars? Man those were the days.
We thought they’d never end.
Shit, I shouldn’t have linked that. It’s depressing.
But appropriate.
Still beats the hell out of I’ve Never Been to Me.
SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!!111!1!elebenty
The nearest Costoc is chock-a-block full of TP and paper towels. There are pallets of the stuff everyhwere.
According to our son his Cosco in Henderson has a sign saying no returns on TP.
Capitalism is wonderful.
There’s a sign I never expected to see.
My friend worked returns at a Kohl’s during college. He has stories.
I hope they can pull that off for potatoes, rice, and tomatoes here soon before my wife freaks out.
Aldi only accepts canned goods returns. They may take other stuff, but they toss it instead of restocking.
The solution is that we need to send people out into the countryside to learn to farm and raise all of their own food. Someone tried that once before, not sure how it worked out, but I think they named it, something something about fields…
Mo thanks for the youtube link.
I’m sorry to report that the hound passed away yesterday.
Requiescat in pace, Delia. You were a Good Dog.
Oh, I’m so sorry. Was she the rescue?
Yep. World’s Most Expensive Rescue. We learned all sorts of medical terms in the last 3 weeks, like “pericardial effusion” and, eventually, hemangiosarcoma.
She had a good final week – plenty happy and the end came pretty quickly, although she essentially died in my arms while waiting outside the veterinary hospital, since they’re on Wuhan lockdown; not that it really would have mattered, I just hope she wasn’t in any unnecessary pain.
We were fortunate that a photographer-friend of my wife was able to have us over last weekend – Delia had fun on the beach and in the studio:
https://imgur.com/a/1WyUJnV
https://imgur.com/a/vxtV0vB
Good dog.
Sorry dude.
Pretty dog.
OUCH! Right in the feels. I’m sorry for your loss of such a beautiful doggo.
“she essentially died in my arms”
That is the best, last thing we can do for other creatures. Sorry for your loss. Thank you for being there for her.
You are a good man.
I’m very sorry for your loss but I’m really glad she had someone who loved her with her at the end.
Sorry, slumbrew.
That sucks. Sorry, slum.
Well, shit. I’m sorry to hear that Slumbrew.
All Dogs Go to (1990)
Damn, I’m sorry man.
Sorry to hear it. Doggos leave us too soon.
Condolences and sympathies.
Sorry 🙁
Sorry to hear. I have one that is slowly losing her hips – she’s still getting around, but if she lasts the year I’ll be surprised.
So sorry, slum.
Thank you, for all of the kind words.
Sorry slumbrew. Glad you were able to brighten her last days like you did.
Goddam seasonal allergies.
I’m so sorry.
Condolences, slum. Its hard to lose a pack member. Really hard.
Sorry.
The only time I’ve driven drunk was to take my raised-from-a-puppy friend to be put down.
Absolutely would have if I needed to.
Man. So sorry. Puts shit in perspective. A year from now we barely remember the virus…the loss of a dog is never forgot.
BATFE’s NFA processing branch is still functioning 🙂
Greetings from Silencer Shop! Just a quick note letting you know that your application was received by the ATF and the check was cashed on 3/18/2020 for order…
Martial law (?) with firearm and ammo sales still allowed.
Rufus the Monocled on March 18, 2020 at 5:03 pm
Are we at the ‘martial law by other means’ stage yet?
I’m starting to get a tiny bit worried where this can go. The cure worries me more than Covid (ie the flu).
Right now, Mayor Bill de Blasio is holding a press conference. He says the Federal government has all of the resources needed, but they’re not doing anything. Liar. He says all they have to do is print more money. What a piece of shit.
He says all they have to do is print more money.</em
DAHH it is so simple!!!
Oh great. I can’t wait for the next fresh horror.
They’re not doing enough for him.
This is a distraction from why the mayor of “The Greatest City in the World(tm)” has failed to spool up resources. Center of innovation and industry and all that.
Wow, apparently 9mm is popular right now. Went to the store to pickup a quick safe, 9mm sold out, .45 stocked full.
Yeah. I find the arguments of 9mm vs .45 vs 10mm. vs .40 very interesting, but the wisdom of the day is that 9mm is king.
:DISCLAIMER: Previous statement should not be taken as stance on the argument. Other than to say .45 can suck donkey shit 9mm FTW.
I have no preference, but I will say my favorite gun in my collection is my HK .45. Too bad I lost it in a boating accident.
I’m just being silly, i really don’t care. I Prefer to shoot 9mm, because of the ease for me to handle them.
Did somebody say… CALIBER WARS!?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGTmfyDY2zw
.40 is the British Knights of the Nike vs Reebok sneaker war.
.357 must be adidas. Also explains why it’s the best.
European. No residence in American headspace. Used for… things Americans don’t do. Very well made and effective.
No, I believe Adidas is the 7.62×25 Tokarev copper coated steel bullet.
Makes sense. COVID killing boomers means no one left alive wanting to shoot .45 AARP.
heh-heh, when those ol’ ‘lebens get dumped on the market Fourscore be waitin’ wit a pocketful whatever it takes to free ’em up.
Right now, Mayor Bill de Blasio is holding a press conference. He says the Federal government has all of the resources needed, but they’re not doing anything. Liar. He says all they have to do is print more money. What a piece of shit.
Ah, of course. The Magic Hat theory of wealth creation.
Pandemic music…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nGsT_qFMBs
Winco has a large fulk food section. Pasta and beeans about cleaed out. And Goldfish – the crackers not the swimming things.
Also snack foods were OK. Except no Cheezits.
People are srange
I’m not a racist or homophobic, but I don’t think non-white or gay people can fully understand or enjoy DOOM. I don’t want to see Id or Bethesda bow down to the SJW overlords just so Doomguy can have sex with a black woman (if it’s an Asian female near legal age that’s fine). Wolfenstein: The New Colossus was bad enough with it’s pro-liberal propaganda against Germany.
Homosexuals don’t really fit the lore of DOOM either. The series is about traditional Christian values. If Doomguy were ever to have sex, it wouldn’t be with another man. He wouldn’t strip his armor off, skin caked with sweat and blood, straddling a robot man’s groin, now fully kitted out with synthetic sex organs. Nor would he start licking the robot man’s armpit swivels, which were pre-coated with tangy, sour sweat-like lubricant beforehand. Doomguy is straight as an arrow.
4/5 would fap to
I’ve started to just be able to ignore the SJW stuff since it’s totally infested the gaming industry. I just bought Borderlands 3 and some people are ranting on Steam about the SJW theme to it. I’m just somehow able to ignore it.
Not a DOOM fan, I don’t care much for FPS shooters with no RPG elements.
Doom peaked at Doom 2.
That was back when LAN parties and serial modems were things.
serial modems were a thing
Acoustic coupler or GTFO.
The first company I worked for when I was working on my Compsci degree had a Token Ring Network on Unix with 9600 baud modems. Seriously.
My first home internet connection was a 56k dialup modem. I still remember the sounds they made and watching stuff come slowly displaying on your screen once you finally had the magical connection working.
Also, even before that, internet trolls were a thing. One of my Compsci profs had the first and only internet connection that I knew about, in his house.
He invited the entire class over so we could witness the miracle of an online connection. He was a member of a ‘chat room’ and apparently a victim of a troll. He had taken the online handle of ‘Prof’, short for professor. He was on and in about one minute the troll appeared and started trolling him. He became greatly distressed by this. The guy called him ‘prophet man’ and asked him to prove his power of prognostication. He typed furiously ‘It’s Prof! As in professor! Stop it, I blocked you!’. I don’t know how much time I spent retelling that experience and laughing my ass off about it.
“Flame wars” seem so quaint now.
Pshaw – my first job out of school, the 9600 baud modems were the fast ones. Most customers still had 4800 baud modems, and there were still a few 1200 baud modems floating around in the wild.
I suspect I can still tell you how fast the connection is just based on the tones.
Kids these days just don’t appreciate the glorious anticipation of an interleaved image downloading from the BBS, while you figured out if it was something you could fap to (narrator: everything could be fapped to, with enough effort).
“Kids these days”
Can you even imagine them going to a store and buying a game in a box, on 30 floppy disks, going home and taking all day to install it, failing to get it to work and there is no Steam or Valve or developers who they can immediately threaten online with lawsuits?
We still have floppies (the small plastic ones) and I think somewhere around here we might have a floppy drive, although I don’t think it’s hooked up.
Thing is, you really learned how to get into your box and tinker and fix things. I was on Reddit and someone was asking about the capability to do X, and I’m like, hey, I have a utility for that. Here’s the link.
Blew their mind there was such a thing.
Dude, there’s a utility for EVERYTHING. I’ve been porting the same utilities for 20 years and praying they don’t fail with the next Windows upgrade, which is one reason I hate Windows “up”grades.
110 baud acoustic modem. Fer reelz. Took an employment aptitude test using one hooked up to a remote server.
As it turns out, and according to Employment & Immigration Canada back in the early 1980s, I was an ideal candidate for Canadian Armed Forces Munitions, Explosives and Weapons Technical Specialist.
If only they had known . . .
56k! In my day we had 14.4, and we liked it that way!
And storing programs on cassette tapes.
Nobody needs more than 9600bps.
Back when it first came out, we’d play multiplayer Doom on work computers after hours. My wife still resents waiting in the car for me while we finished playing a round.
Dear Mr. Gates
Was that actually ur (your) son I met on Modern Warfare 2??? I believe his name is “XxXSmokeDank420XxX.” He said his dad is Bill Gates, and he’ll get me ?banned❌ from Xbox Live?. He also said he engaged in intercourse with my mother???♀️??. I’m not sure if that’s true, but when I asked her about it ❔???❓, she started crying???. Just want 2 (to) know if that’s ur (your) son.
P.S. (postscript) I’ve met like 30 of ur (your) children?? on Xbox Live. u (you) must be laying mad pipe ???? in order to have spawned that many offspring?. Honestly inhuman how much pussу u’ve (you’ve) been pounding ???????????????????. Keep up the good work!!?(Though I suggest u (you) should b (be) a little more careful ⛑? 4 (for) now, with ?coronavirus? going around and everything??.) Stay safe and have a good day!
Sincerely, Adrian 🙂
I think he is laying mad pipe, to be honest.
Completely appropriate
Dear HM
I love you. Never change.
Signed
A fan
I’ll be signing autographs and eating ass in the main exhibit hall.
Is it safe to assume, given your stance on Doom Guy’s sexuality, that you will not be providing both services to all comers?
When reporters make things up then get called on their bullshit.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/kellyanne-conway-presses-cbs-reporter-at-center-of-kung-flu-controversy-for-details-reporter-refuses-to-answer
Only a complete tool would find “Kung Flu” offensive anyway.
Right? Thats why I play it safe with ‘Chinky Cough’ when discussing the pathogen.
Wuhan Flu. Chingylingy Flu. Yellow flu.
Wu-Han Flu aint nuthin’ to fuck with!
I just found out recently that ‘Oriental’ is an offensive and racist term. Really? I remember the old guys I knew who had fought in WW2 and they used a lot of derogatory or racist terms, but Oriental was not one of them. People have become completely stupid and seemingly uneducated these days.
It’s like everything else. In a couple years, it will be people of the Orient.
We have always been at war with Eastasia. Why are you giving them aid and comfort?
Yellow Fever?
My son has it bad.
Last three girlfriends: Japanese/American, American/Chinese, straight up Chinese (adopted, though, so she calls herself a banana).
Good man.
I’m always disappointed that nobody has posted the scene from The Corruptor, where the Chinatown cops are talking to Mark Whalberg’s character – “I bet you got a Chinese girlfriend, though – you’ve got the yellow feeever!”
The fever is long lasting, too.
Policing people’s language is an end in itself. They don’t care about offense so there will always be a new word you aren’t allowed to say. It is about power.
Interesting that both TEAMS are slamming her for refusing to name names, for different reasons.
I’ve moved on to “CCP Virus”.
Not racist, because it points at the government.
Highlights the Chinese government’s responsibility for this.
Has just a soupcon of “bioweapon” tinfoil hattery.
Ok. But that absolves Tom Hanks of all responsibility.
Can’t we compromise and simply acknowledge that the CCP Virus gives you Tom Hanks Disease?
Fair point.
In before Infowars and Lew Rockwell denounce the link as a conspiracy theory and explain that THD is a result of vaccination.
I’m rooting against Hanks. I want to see someone try to punch God in the face. I’m not sure how that works but either way, dude will look like a jackass.
The current term I’ve been using in our org for the “social distancing” practices is “Kung Flu Fighting”
Brilliant.
Agreed.
I’m done with my favorite term, but this one seems acceptable.
Thanks, Pine Tree!
I just read my new favorite on Slate Star Codex:
Sinos Infection
CCP Flu sounds too Soviet.
9mm sold out, .45 stocked full.
Interesting.
Well, in good news, I did receive my state tax rebate check. Now to see if it’ll still clear.
I file an 8880, so TaxAct told me just as I was about to file that it wouldn’t be free.
Hope TurboTax isn’t the same way.
It will be. Anything more complicated than a 1040-EZ, they’re going to charge you for.
It wasn’t that way for my 2017 taxes. Last year I had a 1099, so I had to pay.
States and FedGov can’t just let us fill out the fucking forms online at their sites?
Tax prep industry got them to stop from developing their own free filing solutions by offering “free” tax filing for simple/low income filers.
FedGov did. NY insists that you buy software.
There is an alternative: Fill the forms out by hand and mail them in.
That’s how I learned how to do my taxes. I was a brand new independent contractor and got stuck with a $2000 tax bill. I was whining to my aunt, who said, “Oh, wait, no. This is what you do–” So I went and got a booklet, a 1040 form, a Schedule C form, and went through them line by line until I understood thoroughly what was necessary.
I’ve had to account for a won car, which, as it happened (and I can’t take credit for knowing this; my friend is a tax attorney and I happened to be telling her about it), was a hybrid and I could write the entire thing off.
I’ve had to account for a legal settlement (it took me forfuckingEVER to figure that one out).
I’ve had to account for lottery winnings.
I’ve had to account for energy-saving improvements to our home.
Anyway, that first year, I filed an amended return (the tax preparer took it upon himself to file electronically without asking us first). The IRS forgave me the 41c I still owed.
Do it by hand and mail it if you don’t want to pay for more than a stamp.
Didn’t have to pay to file with Turbo Tax, although I had to update Chrome because it didn’t like Firefox on Linux and didn’t like that I was apparently using an old version of Chrome.
They’re shutting down bars and restaurants here, so I’m at my favorite haunt for the second day in a row. Almost time to roll up the sidewalks and hunker down for a bit.
Boeing – holy crap, what a shit show.
What happened now?
Down over 70% ytd; Nikki Haley just resigned from the board in protest due to bailout request. Congress is comparing to AIG – in trouble due to poor decision making. Talk of Buffet jumping-in – he and Charlie have the cash.
Unlike AIG, they actually make shit and they aren’t going anywhere. Buy, buy, buy.
They’ve got to own a shitload of valuable IP as well.
So the drumbeat has started to criticize Texas for not being quite as panicky as other states. Hopefully the criticism falls on deaf ears.
Clearly they’ve never spent time with an actual Texan™.
Clearly, the governor is paralyzed.
Hi-yo!
As far as I can tell the only people panicking are pols stomping their feet and demanding more power.
Everyone around here seems calm and unworried. That could change but so far….
Oh, and of course the press.
A distinction without a difference.
I’m losing my mellow for two reasons.
1. If I have to listen to one more absolute moron assuring me about their concern in this ‘time of crisis’ I’m going to end up in jail for assault.
2. If this crap continues for even 2 months we are screwed economically. Great Depression II, Socialism Boogaloo. Every new shut down measure comes with more promises that ‘we’ should bail everyone out. Newsflash people if you are bailing everyone out there isn’t anyone available to actually do the bailing out.
#2 is what I really worry about. Even assuming the uglier models are correct, the worldwide depression that would result from shutting down the economy for 18-24 months would have similarly ugly outcomes with social unrest and reduced living quality (which would have both direct and indirect reduced health outcomes) for years.
What really bothers me is no one is questioning what is really known and where the truth lies. It’s not in gut feelings about what things should be.
Even asking gets you denounced as “Not caring about other people”. Damnit, I am not worried for myself. I’m fat, 52 and have more or less accepted that I will drift along until I die. It is the kids I am terrified for. They are going to get fooled into voting in a socialist and then it’s over. Bread lines and gulags.
Yep. I’ve seen plans where they allow us to go out, and things to open for a month or so, before going back to shutting everything down for a couple weeks. Plans where they’re saying this is a 2-3 month thing, plans where this is a 3 week thing, etc.
You can’t plan around the unknown. Those businesses that just opened, or were going to open in the past two weeks. Odds are they’re done. $1,000 isn’t going to make up for the loss of business, spent rent, spent utilities, waste from needing to throw out perishables, etc.
There was a significant minority clamoring for a worldwide debt jubilee 12 years ago. They may not be a minority anymore.
Hi Brett!
That’s your best opening paragraph ever. I read it to Mrs. T and she thought it was hilarious.
Well done.
It was a mixed bag today. I spoke to one of my best customers this afternoon and business is booming (SoCal)! Then I spoke to my dad and found out his TDS is, too. Honestly, not sure what happened to the guy. Sad!
I swung by the office to pick up some things for a project. Empty. I almost stayed.
The drunken elephants are so peaceful. We should all aspire to be drunken elephants.
There is nothing better, occupation wise, than having an office all to yourself.
The drunken elephants are so peaceful. We should all aspire to be drunken elephants.
“Drunken elephant” sounds like it should be the name of a fighting style, or fighting stance, or bar, or album, or something. It’s just too good of a name.
Sexual position?
Tell your Dad, “Why do you listen to that shit? It will rot your mind!” No doubt he told you the same judging by your recent avatars.
Someone at work tested positive. I didn’t have contact.
Remind me, Tulip, where are you?
I understand that here in Minne, almost no one is being tested.
Because there have been few reports or tougher or smarter or don’t care.
NoVa
NoVa – aka Chickenshit Central.
One Las Vegas strip club is staying open amid a 30-day shutdown recommended by Gov. Steve Sisolak and taking social distancing to another level by offering drive-through strip shows.
Little Darlings strip club will begin offering drive-through strip shows for those who want to indulge in some adult entertainment, but do not want to enter the building, as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is recommending people keep 6 feet in distance between themselves and others.
I guess it could work.
For people without internet?
What do you insert your chip card into?
Baker says no to shelter in place in MA
Gov. Charlie Baker said there are “tough days ahead” for Massachusetts, but there are no plans to implement a shelter-in-place order.
The governor spoke at a press conference Tuesday amid a steady rise in novel coronavirus cases in Massachusetts.
“Without question we are likely to have some very tough days ahead of us, as we are still at the beginning of the battle against this virus,” Baker said. “Faith and confidence. We’ll get through this by pulling together, caring for one another.”
it’s been 2 whole days – we’ll see if he sticks with that.
The first I heard of it was today. I picked up some take-out from the restaurant in the area that I like that is open. They had the TVs on the news, and the news had a story about Baker shooting down the call for a shelter-in-place order.
Cuomo and Deblasio are bickering (as usual) over this issue. Cuomo doesn’t want it and apparently it’s his call.
Suit challenges ban on large crowds. Prediction: It fails BFYTW.
A group of political and religious activists has filed a court challenge to Gov. Chris Sununu’s order to restrict the size of public gatherings because of the COVID-19 pandemic.
The suit asks a Merrimack County Superior Court judge to issue an injunction against the ban on community meetings of more than 50. A preliminary hearing is scheduled for Friday morning.
“To be clear, of course we do not wish the spread of COVID-19,” said Dan Hynes of Manchester, the lawyer representing the three people who brought the suit.
“However, the government should not be acting in an unconstitutional manner in order to possibly address their concerns.”
In the court filing, Hynes said Sununu has every legal right to advise citizens not to gather in large crowds, but he said that mandating this behavior runs afoul of constitutional protections.
Dan, that ship sailed off a long, long time ago, bro.
Praying to God to stop this ChinaVirus pandemic probably has a great chance of succeeding than this lawsuit.
Dude, some Westchester County hack shut down a synagogue and nobody batted an eye.
Entrepreneurs selling seating on the van? Probably needs some of the Costco Big Bundle TP included.
Respond to DEG’s # 38
Putting this here because I have a healthy respect for both heights and rusty can lids.
Thank you SP and TPTB.
Ditto.
Concur
Yes, that’s a very good, and very nice, thing to have done. TPTB rock.
Yes, thanks to SP and TPTB.
Yes, thank you SP, and I sympathize with your mood. It isn’t so much the pety tyrants getting their power boners on over this disease, or even the wreck they are making of the economy. It is the smug glee of my fellow serfs as they tell me I am ‘selfish’ for standing up for the small businesses being ruined by ill thought out closure orders.
This.
Quit fucking telling me what to do. I have been through some ridiculous economic meltdowns and I’m tired of it.
There is nothing in this whole clusterfuck that doesn’t point to inept government.
Fuck off, I have to make a living.
I got this response on facebook from a long time friend (prog who calls himself libertarian but only distrusts government with an R) to my posting:
“Tyranny in the garb of safety” about that letter I linked up thread somewhere:
Look up what they did to Typhoid Mary. If you violate the order, you increase the risk of exponential spread of this virus, which increases the chances that our hospitals get overwhelmed. If the hospitals get more critical patients than they can treat, people will die. This bar owner is putting a few dollars in his pocket over saving lives. I thought you were pro-life?
The bolded part has me seeing red and wanting to post something Tom Kratman like on my wall, but I won’t because Jacksonian tyrants are not less tyrannical than Wilsonians.
Want me to respond to the cunt?
So glad I’m not on fb.
I replied:
I am fine with asking businesses to close. I don’t care for seizing people’s businesses because an authoritarian is flexing his muscles. We do not live our lives by permission of the State. And I thought you didn’t care for Trump or Dewine? Now you are ok with them exercising total control over your life?
Crickets?
Or “so I suppose it’s ok for anyone to do what they want, regardless of how it affects other people?”
LOL: no, he replied:
I think DeWine is doing a much better job than I expected, It appears that many Republican Governors have suddenly figured out that Scientists actually know what they are talking about.
And it appears that too many people thought the requests for keeping distance was a joke, hence the big parties in the bars that triggered the order by the Health Commissioner to shut down bars and restaurants.
Neither DeWine or Trump* are exercising total control over my life. I am free to do what I want, If I am willing to face the consequences. But if we flatten the curve, I’ll have a life.
*impeached
Time to drop that asshole like a bad habit.
O RLY?
Except operate or patronize a restaurant, bar, barbershop, hair salon, tattoo parlor, gym/health club, private school… (Have I missed anything?)
Yes, you are free to do what you want and the Chekists are free to shoot you tovarisch!
Except operate or patronize a restaurant, bar, barbershop, hair salon, tattoo parlor, gym/health club, private school… (Have I missed anything?)
But he doesn’t want to do those things, and HIS job is safe (Hint, his job is likely to cease to exist if this goes on for a couple months, but he hasn’t realized that yet, he does high end work in Cruise ship entertainment/set design)
also no idea if you have missed anything because I cannot find a single source that shows all the orders out there…
GT/Jarflax: Weren’t the churches ordered to skip services as well? I know the Cleveland Catholic Diocese was asking elderly and at risk people to not come to Mass, and gave them a dispensation.
I am free to do what I want, If I am willing to face the consequences.
He’s not wrong. Hell, you are free to serial kill 20 or 30 hitchhikers as long as you are willing to spend 30 years on death row and maybe be executed before you die of multiple gang rapes.
Fuck, I’m waiting for the state/fedgov to shut down the delivery services. Cut off UPS, FedEx, DHL, USPS, etc… then see how long everyone stays calm.
I’m going to try to risk the grocery store this weekend, and get some local food (take out, because that fuckwit DeWine thinks that’ll keep me safer). Over a week since I went through Atlanta, no fever, no coughing. no where to go.
My holster arrived today.
It started off in FL, the went to… Denver. From Denver it moved with reasonable speed through various cities in a reasonable direction until it bypassed me and went to Springfield (MA). From there, it went to… Boston, where it sat for four days. Then back to Springfield, but only for a few hours before taking three more stops to get to my house.
What am I missing?
New post
Compassion?
Whelp. I’m bored.
Hi, Bored. (Classic Dad joke.)
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/603/23719514281_2fd334ff4e_b.jpg
Thanks, Q.
Hey! Now I’ve got something to do for the next 10 minutes or so.
Supply chains. Yeah, totes.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/coronovirus-kills-playboy-printed-editions-for-2020
Couldn’t possibly be
A) The insane proliferation of porn online that you could never in a million years compete with
B) Your iconic founder is now taking a dirt nap
C) In response to A and B, you got woke
I do find it a little ironic that A is due to being a victim of their own success. Playboy helped usher in the Sexual Revolution and solidify new societal norms that created the environment for its own destruction.
Yeah, Playboy without nudes is Esquire. And nobody reads that.
Playboy is still around? Who knew?
And Esquire is basically another Salon now.
SpaceX reveals timeline for first manned flight to International Space Station
May of this year? As in eight weeks?
Yep.
I’ve started drinking early so that I can fall asleep early.
To help me out with that, nobody say anything interesting between 20:00 – 20:30 EDT.
Thanks in advance.
Thought experiment:
RBG kicks off. Does that crowd coronavirus out of the news?
What about if it was from Kung Flu that she died?
Maybe not crowd out the virus entirely, but it would spawn hundreds of articles on how Trump can’t nominate her replacement before the election.
^yeap
Absolutely. The only thing making nCoV-2019 Wuhan a thing is it’s political relevance.
PA Gov. Tom Wolf has ordered that all non-life sustaining businesses to be closed. “Non-life sustaining” to be determined by not you.
Fuck that.
Time for some massive disobedience.
That’s draconian.
They know better than to try and force the closure of liquor stores and Dunkin Donuts around here – that would be a recipe for civil insurrection.
Remember the Tsarnev crisis? When everyone in Boston was ORDERED To say in their homes except for police and Dunkin Donuts employees?
People don’t believe me when I told them that happened.
The words “shelter in place” are starting to sound like Arbeit Mach Frei to me.
Because “Boston Strong” means cowering in your house like a little bitch while the police track down 2 murderers.
I called it “Boston Chicken” back in the day.
No kidding. Business owners need to stop being supine.
I’ve tried. I rallied my boss to keep open until this.
Our contracts have been slowly telling us to cease and desist.
This was the final straw.
PANIC HARDER YOU FUCKING PLEBES.
RESPECT YOUR MASTERS.
NYers are a bunch of panicky pussies.
They cancelled Sunday’s Steel Challenge.
Of all the fucking terrible chains to have to cheer for… Gamestop is claiming to be an essential business.
And their employees are balking. They’ll fold like everyone else unless they don’t mind the optics of firing any no-shows.
Gamestop has been hemorrhaging money. No way could they survive being shut down for a week, let alone multiple weeks.
I’m kind of surprised they’re still around. I haven’t been inside one in years.
They are bad? My stepson worked for them for a while. They were very good to him and he loved the job.
But then I don’t know much about the gaming world.
I don’t know that Gamestop is anyworse than another retail company, but when your product is bits and bites, and you are known as a brick and mortar store, life got bad for you 20 years back and hasn’t improved since.
They were decent at one point (almost all national companies are), but they started pushing pre-orders for anything, as well as pushing their used games/console sales, where they would pay ~25% of the game cost (in store credit), and sell it for ~95% of the game cost. That got them a lot of money until the games went to more online activation and online play. We’re now in the time of the online store and digital downloads. Why go to the store to drop $70 for a game, instead of staying at home, paying the same (or less if you can wait), and having it already downloaded to your machine before the launch?
My current gaming rig doesn’t even have an optical drive, and streamin/downloads took off too fast for the usb physical media to ever really happen. Hard making money as the less convenient, equally expensive alternative, with higher overhead.
Fuck.
I wonder what I’m going to get from some relatives in PA that I’ve been exchanging mail with.
“Our hospital friends are scared! They’re overwhelmed! People are dying!”
I tried to be rational but I think I failed.
My friend that decided to resurrect a restaurant is going to be fucked.
Everybody is.
The economy is going to collapse in ways that rival 1929 and it will have been completely self-induced.
For the first time, I’m actually scared and not of the virus.
No worries Comrade, the Government will mail out checks and everything will be fine.
5th day in quarantine…
$5? Look at Mr Moneybags there.
Jesus Feathery Christ this thing is overblown. The TOP MEN are taking every opportunity to increase control. Fuck off, Tom Wolf.
And fuck off, Tulpa!
Meant as a reply to Tulpa up there.
The markets stopped crashing, so something had to be done.
^This^
They know Trump was going to run on the economy and there is no chance in hell they can beat him with a strong economy.
It isn’t going to work.
They were trying to crush it slowly under Obama…manage the decline they called it. That failed so now they are just taking a hammer to it.
They aren’t that smart.
No they are not but I was recently debating ‘collectivists follow the same patterns because they study what works and develop a plan vs. collectivists follow the same pattern because they all think the same’
In the end I was swayed to some combination of both but mostly mentality. Large parts of Lieawatha’s platform looks a lot like Mussolini’s because they think the same.
They are creating crisis because that’s when the looting and power grabbing is good.
I came here to say this.
Tom Wolf – “burn it all down”
It’s not an instruction manual!
This is making everyone mad. I have several small business owners as friends. They were going against Wolf’s recommendations and staying open. A hair salon is not safety critical, but how safe is it going to be once you remove food money from people’s mouths.
The new Wolf decree is that he is t asking anymore but telling businesses to shut down.
“Fuck off, Tom Wolf”
*Momentarily confused, looks up thread*
Ah, THAT Tom Wolf
Trying to fall asleep before my shift. Drinking Bonded Old Grandad and rewatching the Showtime/Canal 4 production of Armistead Maupin’s Tales Of The City. It is REALLY well shot, the cinematography is beautiful.
That’s the one with a slave ship full of gay guys?
IIRC there’s a cruise ship full of gay guys but that’s one of the later books.
Video review of the Ruger PC Charger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU3OYzcPfpY
Well, just got a long email from my ex.
She was always a germaphobe. Got worse after our daughter passed away. I expected her to freak out over this, and I was right.
She tells me that I’m not allowed to see my son until I get tested and isolate for two weeks.
Grrr.
On the bright side, since both my woman and I do gig work at a grocery store, we already resigned ourselves that we ARE going to get it. Every person in the area walks through, coughs, breathes and touches our environment. I don’t care. I’m actually doing a service that helps people. I have twenty or thirty people a day I shop for…people who are either too afraid, or unable to get out of the house. I’m donating blood on Monday. I’m isolating from my parents (which…I mean…isn’t the worst thing in the world if you catch my drift)
It’s crazy. Thank god I have booze on hand, and a new stack of 20 Vinyl albums I haven’t listened to yet.
I hate this. People need to stop panicking.
Good news; there’s hope on the horizon. The day that last check clears, you’ll never hear from her again.
Bless you gbob.
You are exactly the kind of person who grinds us through this bullshit.
I had to stop at Home Depot today to get a couple things for a work project. The young lady at the self-checkout smiled, took the gun and scanned my stuff. Then she stepped back and had me take care of the payment. As I was leaving, I looked back and another kid was wiping down everything.
The kids are allright.
Good on you gbob.
Sorry about your ex.
This bullshit in PA really has me freaking out right now. I was doing good until this evening.
Ugh. Bad things are coming.
If you need some hooch mailed to you, I’m happy to help….use next thread!
I’m good for a little bit, but I’ll keep that in mind. Thanks!
This will be the death knell of the medical transcription industry for everybody, Americans, Indians, Filipinos. Hospitals and doctors who use it now will figure out they really don’t need it and even if they want to keep it, they won’t have time to do it.
Touched on earlier: 9mm vs 10 mm vs 45
9mm – I have a mold with the same design but obviously discontinued as 377 (third row down, first one on the left) but mine is 147 grains instead of 122 grains.
I load them up hot and lube the hell out of them. They shoot fast and flat and penetrate like crazy. They will shoot through and through a car body with plenty of punch left over.
An acquaintance of mine is a sheriff’s deputy. He was attacked by a lunatic with a knife and was badly hurt. He was able to get two shots off as the guy was stealing his patrol car. one hit the car and stopped in the door, the other hit the guy dead center mid-way up his thigh. The 115 grain hollow point went through the guy’s jeans and skin, fragmented and stopped just inside the muscle. It did not even slow the guy down.
I am of the opinion that 9mm is a good round but you need heavy, fast loads with hard bullets.
10mm – After acquiring one I duplicated the success of the nine by applying the same principles to the 10 (D47 bottom row 8 from left) and a raging success it was.
If I get another pistol it will probably be in 10mm.
45 acp – Large diameter, heavy bullet. You can load it up so that it has plenty of energy but less blast and recoil than the previous calibers and still be effective. It doesn’t shoot as flat but for pistol use long range is not usually an issue.
I won’t complain about the 45 acp and I would buy another.
Saeco chart: https://www.redding-reloading.com/online-catalog/87-saeco-precision-bullet-moulds
Apologies….when the link opens scroll down and click the center chart to enlarge it.
I’m thinking about using my Trumpbucks as a discount against a CMMG Banshee 300 Mk10.
I’m really torn on Trumpbuck spending. I want to spend it to lock in some value. But My upbringing (and wife) are pushing me to save it. Also it doesn’t help that i know that the government wants me to spend it, which makes me really not want to spend it.
Maybe i’ll compromise and buy Bitcoin…
Yeah I joked about a new gun but honestly it should either go to the step-son (hours cut in half) or house payment.
We are soooooo close to paying this house off.
Invest in my whims or invest in family? Not really a tough choice.
Check.
My current situation demands it.
Funny thing with me and cash though. Put the green in my hand, and that’s not going ANYWHERE. Put plastic in my hand and money is like water through a sieve. Or electrons, which feel worthless.
Picked up an 80% lower a few weeks ago – taking it my buddies place this weekend – think it’ll be an AK-AR.
Still want to buy a Shield 2.0 9mm for carry, but all the sale prices are gone for the moment. I’m happy with my 220, but of course….with my job – not much I can do unless I want to hide my pistol in the car every day (parking on base). Not really worth it.
The radial delayed blowback is nice.
You pretty much speak for me.
We both have the SW686: I absolutely believed in the energy of the .357.
I reluctantly moved away from revolver, and, though I’m not stuck in the fifties, I went with .45 because You can load it up.That said, I don’t have small hands: a double-stack ACP feels about right to me but would be a clear burden to most people.
That said, I have nothing against hot 9mm to this extent: it’s gonna take 1,000 ft*lb to
cancel a man’s Christmassubdue the threat, and no pistol load can do that. I’ve given up on marksmanship in and have joined the lead-slinging idiots and hope 10+1 is better than 6: the bozos I’m apt to run into don’t know about the rule of three, and you don’t get to go one-on-one with them in any regard.The advantage of the nine is that being small you can put more in the magazine or make a much smaller pistol. The disadvantage is the blast that the effective loads make and the recoil. Your double stack 45 spreads that out. My my Sig 938 the hot loads are quite sharp and the fireball can be blinding under dark conditions.
For a decade or more I carried a Kimber 1911 45acp. I traded for the much smaller Sig because I. got tired of lugging the bigger pistol around.
*the load I described will easily bring someone down in one shot. If you are not a cast bullet aficionado you are probably not aware of how effective they can be.
Shot placement > all.
Jack Wilson (White Settlement) got an aimed headshot. The fact that he was using .357 SIG didn’t matter at that point.
Fragmenting in the thigh he’s lucky the femoral artery stayed intact.
And of course, a hit to the femur typically stops people from moving.
The hip new tacticool trainers are teaching people to shoot for the pelvis on the theory that it will prevent the bad guy from being able to stand.
But lead in general doesn’t seem to perform well if it hits metal or glass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0piGeTVMZWs
shoot for the pelvis
I’ve always said that because most people shoot high and float higher under stress. General advice for non-experts: focus on the belt-buckle and keep squeezing until the threat subsides.
Cramer runs to populist pose as markets crash
We can not have the fat cats make money at the expense of the workers
Cramer has been so consistently wrong on any point of principle for the past three decades that his populist pivots completes his qualifications for Pennsylvania Avenue.
Someone has a bit of common sense
https://www.nps.gov/orgs/1207/national-park-service-to-temporarily-suspend-park-entrance-fees.htm
Ooh.
I think the next national fee holiday was going to be on April 18, but well done nonetheless.
Slumbrew, I’m sorry. Got an old complicated pup right here, and by no means the first one.
New thread (beyond the no off topic assist one) is up.
“But lead in general doesn’t seem to perform well if it hits metal or glass”
I have done extensive tests on wood, metal and glass. Different ranges, surfaces at different angles and from different ranges.
Range seems to have the greatest effect. Ever spin a top? It starts off wobbling, then stabilizes, then slows down and begins wobbling again. Bullets perform in exactly the same way. The rifling spins it and it exits the barrel and begins wobbling. Down range a bit more it stabilizes and flies spinning straight. At near the end of its flight the spinning slows and it wobbles again. If the bullet strikes a surface while it is wobbling its performance is poor penetration and greatly altered trajectory. If it strikes dead nose on penetration improves a lot and trajectory also but to a lesser degree. The greater the angle of the surface is less than 90 degrees, the greater the alteration of both. The angled surface is akin to the bullet wobbling…it doesn’t strike nose dead on.
Wood penetration at 20 yards for 30 caliber, 150 grain bullet at 2750 fps – 20 inches or less. Same load at 100 yards – 36 to 40 inches.
Test results on glass – best performance on plate window glass striking dead on, single pane. Poorest performance on car windshield glass. So poor in fact that shooting through the windshield of a car headed straight at you is unlikely to hit the driver without a magazine dump. Most car occupants shot are shot through side window opening after the first shot shatters the window out.
Sheet metal – 90 degrees at 20 yards barely changes trajectory but greatly decreases velocity and penetration of Back target. At about 20 degrees penetration becomes unlikely for pistols.
Tested: 22lr, 38 spl, 9mm Luger, 44 mag, 45 acp, 30-06 Springfield.
Oh, and the back targets were 8 inches of newspaper soaked over night in water and then wrapped in two layers of denim.