Thursday Morning Links

by | Mar 5, 2020 | Daily Links | 601 comments

Great

What a long, shitty day I had yesterday.  And I was totally out of the loop news-wise, so if drugs fall out of my ass with these links, I apologize. I try occasionally to listen to the news on the radio but I just can’t. I’d rather listen to old-timey radio programs like Johnny Dollar or The Great Gildersleeve.

Not so great

Anyway, sports! Spuds got knocked out of the FA Cup by Norwich and then one of their players went all Ron Artest after the game. Man City and Leicester also advanced.  Dayton keeps cruising in basketball, Notre Dame choked away a huge lead against FSU, while UVA and Wisconsin also won. Your winners on the ice were Calgary, Phoenix, Anaheim and Philly.

Super-great

Birthday celebrants today are Henry II of England, Taiwanese First Lady Soong Mei-ling, acting great Rex Harrison, instant noodles inventor Momofuku Ando, first president of Zimbabwe Canaan Banana, Canadian serial killer Peter Woodcock, singer Murray Head, sidearm hurler Kent Tekulve, rocker Eddie Grant, magician/left-libertarian Penn Jillette, RHCP’s John Frusciante, and the lovely Eva Mendes.

OK, on to…the links!

Arizona takes the lead to protect female athletes. This will cause a shitstorm. But it needed to happen.

Trump contradicts the WHO. And he’s absolutely correct.  There’s no way in hell they know everybody who caught the disease and it never got reported. The death rate The WHO is claiming is absurdly high.

The opposite of great

John Roberts calles out Chuck Schumer. Hopefully someone will do the same to Ilhan Omar. Because those scurrilous accusations are dangerous. And if there’s anything that’s a known it’s that far-left (and far-right) loons act on the words of their “leaders.

Well, this is a start. Of course it’ll take the feds to charge and convict them, seeing as that’s only happened once in the last 15 years by the state when a Chicago cop has gone berserk.

What a shithead. That’s all I got.

I hate laughing at people, but I need to laugh at this woman. OK, I love laughing at people. That was a lie.  Still, this is funny.

Great God!

I remember the bbq “debate” (there isn’t really one) from yesterday. This should go ahead and settle it. Thanks for playing, Memphis, KC, and the Carolinas.

I don’t even know if the birthday boy was around for this song, but it’s absolutely brilliant. Hope you enjoy it as much as me. If you don’t, try this one on for size.

Now go have a great day, friends!

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601 Comments

  1. Ownbestenemy

    Ol’ Chucky should be disbarred or at least valled out by the media…..hahahahahaha.

    Oh First?

    • Ownbestenemy

      Well if anything else happens today…I know I at least won something

  2. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Yeah, Trump is almost certainly right about the stated death rate being too high but he needs to be more careful with his language. “Incorrect” would have been a better way to put it.

    • Rebel Scum

      needs to be more careful with his language

      As if.

  3. Pope Jimbo

    I’m disappointed that the sports section didn’t mention the best high school tournament in the world starts today.

    I say that even as a casual fan of the sport. It was even better when it was a single class, but it is still the best.

    • robc

      It begins March 18. And is still single class. It did go downhill when they moved the finals to Sunday. Semis on Saturday morning, finals on Saturday night is the proper way to do it. It sucked for teams at bottom of bracket (Thursday Night-Friday Night-Saturday Morning-Saturday Night), but thems the breaks.

      https://khsaa.org/basketball/boys/sweet16/2020/boystatebracket2020.pdf

    • ChipsnSalsa

      Is there someone taking on the salad bar breakdown on Youtube this year?

      • Pope Jimbo

        I have no idea. It was a sad day last year when the guy announced his retirement.

      • Tundra

        I loved his work, but I think he was smart to hang it up. Hard to keep it fresh forever.

    • Tundra

      I really enjoy it, as well. The two class thing is never going away. The media have been gushing about the quality of the teams in Class A, but what they fail to mention is how shallow the depth is. Sure, the top 4 teams compare favorably to many of the AA teams, but that’s it. Every quarterfinal yesterday was a fucking blowout.

      MG plays at 11, btw.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I care more about the Moorhead Spuds losing than in how MG does. (Spuds were my home town’s arch rivals).

      • Stillhunter

        I don’t disagree on the depth, but a town of 1,700 putting out a quality team like Warroad gives other small towns the inspiration to believe they can compete. The result being they setup a quality program and get more kids playing good hockey.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Roseau. They had ex-Olympians coaching at the PeeWee level there. They had to start there because the upper levels had even better coaches.

    • banginglc1

      You would like watching teen boys play rough with each other.

      • Pope Jimbo

        You know who should really love hockey? Pie. What with the three periods per game and all.

      • The Last American Hero

        Especially when one of them pokes it in the five hole.

    • Stillhunter

      I know you’re dissing the single A bracket, but to those who don’t get the “joke” the tournament started yesterday. There were a couple blowouts, but that happens when you have unseeded teams playing a top seed in most any tournament.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Honestly, I wasn’t dissing anyone. I have a fondness for watching some tiny team from Warroad or Roseau (even Hibbing) come down to the tourney and play with the big boys.

        I’m not a hockey purist. I like the David/Goliath matchup angle more than hockey.

      • Tundra

        Same. I enjoyed the Range teams coming down and schooling the big metro teams.

        As long as Edina loses, I’m happy.

      • Pope Jimbo

        ^^^THIS^^^

        Fucking cake eaters.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        In high school (WI) team I was on went to state for hockey. We only have one division and I was from a town of 10,000 and we played Madison West which probably drew from 25,000+ people and we won. It was crazy. It was only the opening round but felt like we won the tournament right there.

      • Stillhunter

        That must have been a great experience. I’m talking about small towns, like less than 5000. The resources available for the big city teams, and the pool of kids to pick from is really amazing today.

      • Tundra

        It’s always been that way. I grew up in a hockey powerhouse city of more than 80K people and three high school programs. After 9th grade, my HS closed, so the competition to get in on the two remaining teams got absurd. As an averageplayer, I had no shot.

        A small town would have afforded me the chance to play. I think that’s better than tourney appearances.

      • Stillhunter

        Believe me, I get that. My kids wouldn’t be playing on a team in the cities. They’d probably be playing soccer (barf). But I do think they miss out on some of the excitement of having a shot at going to state. Outside of a couple towns that obviously have something in the water, or the occasional town that has a strong cohort for a couple years, it just doesn’t happen anymore.

        It doesn’t help when the one or two kids that are elite type skaters leave to go play with the big teams either. Just makes the future kids want to get out, rather than stay and play for the hometown. And I certainly understand why they do that, but it’s tough to build a program when that happens.

      • Stillhunter

        The old days of teams from the iron range dominating (when they were actually larger cities mind you) the MN state tournament are long gone.

        Our town has less than 100 kids from minis to peewee (all class B) and that is drastically up from recent past. We can’t even field a bantam team right now, though that will change in the next year or so with this “bubble” of kids coming up.

        And that bubble actually has some good talent, though they will likely never sniff a state high school berth. All because the people, not government or even the school, put in money, effort and time.

      • Tundra

        Even the programs in the big city are self-funded. No matter what, hockey is a very minor sport.

        I’m encouraged, however, by programs like yours that are going the right direction. Even in sunny states, you are starting to see teams pop up.

        More hockey, however it happens, is better.

      • Stillhunter

        Oh I know and it’s great that it’s all self funded, at least at the youth levels. We almost lost the whole program (including high school) about 10 years ago, because the ice system died at the arena and the school (which owns the building) wouldn’t pay for a new one. The youth hockey association, led by the father of the kid who left to play for Hermantown, raised 6 figures to replace it. If not for that, my boys would be playing basketball in the winter, and I’d be doing much more ice fishing…

    • pistoffnick

      Go Hermantown Hawks!

  4. Nephilium

    /points at the sidebar to the right

      • Nephilium

        No worries, some asshole pointed it out to you.

      • Swiss Servator

        Yeah, I hate that guy!

        wait a minute…

  5. Fourscore

    Damn Txans, always gotta outdo everyone else.

  6. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Probably an unpopular opinion.

    The state should take no action either for or against transgender athletes in sports. The leagues should decide it for themselves.

    Of course, Title IX shouldn’t exist either.

    • sloopyinca

      I think the legislature is gonna need to legislate it, as it’s an access issue based on sex, which is a protected class by statute.

      • Not Adahn

        It wouldn’t surprise me if the school-based leagues are a state-controlled organization either.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        TERFs versus Trannies

        *grabs popcorn*

    • Pat

      Of course, Title IX shouldn’t exist either.

      That’s the crux of the issue though. We mandated sex segregated sports and now we’re completely obliterating sex segregated sports on the same grounds.

      • sloopyinca

        “That’s just because words evolve and original intent is just a way for white cis-men to keep others groups down.”
        -probably a legal argument being made when this gets to the courts

    • Florida Man

      I hope trannies destroy school based sports. No more tax money for gyms and stadiums and baseball fields and pools. Next step is to figure a way to destroy government school outright.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        Yes, I’m really sick of tax money going to football fields, track stadiums, enormous weight rooms and all the other crap that goes along with high school sports. If your so interested in sports for your kids, start a club.

        To top it off we go over to the soccer field one day to play catch, kick the ball around and whatever and the field is fenced and locked! So much for “public”.

      • Fourscore

        I hear the BS on the radio about how high school sports solves every worldly crisis. “If it wasn’t for sports more kids would be dropping out”

        Good, then they can get on with life, learn something and become productive. School budgets could be cut.

        As if…

      • JaimeRoberto Delecto

        They passed a bond measure in my town, and the first thing they did with the money is upgrade the sports facilities. I thought it was supposed to improve academics.

      • Shirley Knott

        Oh, so much this.

    • The Last American Hero

      I think they ought to let them in. It will destroy the concept of women’s sports. And not that I hate women or women’s sports, but the only way to end this nonsense about transgender people is to see it through to its logical conclusion.

      Shove everyone’s noses in the progressive shit sandwich good and hard so we are clear what they are saying.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      I’d be on board with that if the state wasn’t already the primary party in charge of organizing, regulating, and promoting high school sports…

  7. robc

    You can fit a lot of pigs in that truck.

    • Not Adahn

      And they do.

      Heck, there’s probably a few chickens and turkeys in there to deal with those vegetarian wierdos in the office.

      • robc

        The proper BBQ debate is not about location, but about species.

      • Not Adahn

        Texas is extremely ecumenical when it comes to putting smoke on meat and meat-adjacent foodstuffs.

        One of the best burgers in Austin is made by tossing ground beef patties into the hot part of a smoker.

      • sloopyinca

        Most Texas joints have evolved from merely cooking swine to cooking swine as a side dish.

      • sloopyinca

        Note: I love Carolina bbq. Especially eastern Carolina bbq. It’s delicious. But it’s still not nearly as good as what comes out of the great state of Texas.

      • Lord Digby's Spirit Animal

        Was this being contested, sloop?

      • sloopyinca

        Hey, there’s still flat-earthers. So seeing bbq-denialists shouldn’t surprise us.

      • Lord Digby's Spirit Animal

        Well put!

      • Nephilium

        Point of order.

        Sauce and rub are also debated.

      • robc

        Really? Rub is so clearly the right answer as to make debate unnecessary.

      • Nephilium

        I’ve met people who referred to Sloppy Joe’s as BBQ to a Texan once. I’m pretty ecumenical in my acceptance of smoked meat, but Sloppy Joe’s is way outside even my acceptance.

      • Lord Digby's Spirit Animal

        Sloppy Joe’s as BBQ

        One of the best laughs I’ve had in a while!

      • Pope Jimbo

        *looks away and whistles*

        You are talking about people from where I was raised.

      • robc

        That is (nearly) as bad as people who refer to cooking burgers on a charcoal grill as a barbecue.

      • Trigger Hippie is mist and shadow

        And spices! And what type of woods used for the smoking process. And I’ve always thought KC Style bbq is a bit of a misnomer. Yes, some joints drown their bbq in sauce around here but most don’t. And I can drive just a few miles and get quality bbq from every regional style known. Even that nasty Alabama style que with the white bastardized mayo crap they cover it with. I wouldn’t eat there, but I have the option.

      • Pope Jimbo

        When I went to Memphis State there was a place near campus that had BBQ. Walkup window with an old guy who sold BBQ that was fantastic and cheap. He did bang up business.

        The school paper did an article on him and he outlined how he decided what sort of wood to use based on wind direction (certain types burned hotter on windy days). That affected the rub he’d be using that day and a bunch of other factors. It was an eye opener for me.

        The guy was an artist who was selling his work for like $3/serving.

        Sadly, last time we visited his place is gone. I can’t even remember the real name of the place. When we wanted to go there, we just said “let’s get some BBQ” and everyone knew we were going to his place.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Same with the Blues.

        Trips to Beale street in the summer were quite the eye opener for the kid from the prairie. “What is this music that makes me want to tap my toes?”

      • banginglc1

        My last trip to Beale Street was disappointing. I remember it being much more blues oriented when I went about 15 years ago. Last summer, most bars were just modern clubs and most of it was miserable.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I haven’t been for 10 years. And I almost never went in the clubs. I just liked walking up and down the street drinking beer and listening to the guys with their guitar and an amp.

        The only club I liked was Joyce Cobb’s place and that was because I knew her from when I worked at a video store she came to all the time.

      • Bobarian LMD

        I’m a fan of all types of BBQ, although I’m not sure I’ve tried the Alabama style you mention.

        But the best thing to ever come off a BBQ smoker is a properly done ‘Burnt End’ sammich.

        The very best parts involve the odd pieces from the point end of the brisket, where the meat gets smoked and fried by the drippings at the same time. A melange of melty fat and crispy bark that you pour sauce over just before serving.

        Food of the gods.

      • Pine_Tree

        Hear, hear.

        “Barbecue” as a noun must start life as a pig (or historically maybe a sheep, believe it or not), and then get smoked over wood.

        “Barbecue” can be a verb applied to other species, meaning to cook in that fashion, but barbecuing something non-porcine cannot turn it into “barbecue”. It turns it into “barbecue chicken”, or “barbecue goat”, or whatever.

        Totally different thing.

        Can’t apply to beef for some reason, but don’t ask me why.

      • banginglc1

        I am willing to perform blind tasted tests if y’all supply the meat

        *rethinks phrasing of comment, goes for it anyways*

      • Pope Jimbo

        When I moved to Memphis, I was amazed at how seriously everyone took BBQ. I also had no idea that BBQ was a specific dish. Like Pine-sy below says you can bbq other things, but they aren’t “BBQ”.

        A real eye opener for a kid who grew up in a place where “authentic” BBQ was using Heinz BBQ sauce (instead of ketchup and a bit of sugar).

        Then I learned about the great Memphis/KC BBQ debate. That was pretty funny too.

        Living there did make me somewhat of a BBQ snob. Minnesoda is – sadly – right out when it comes to BBQ. Now, though, I mostly like starting the BBQ argument (and sticking up for Memphis).

      • pistoffnick

        I have been disappointed by Famous Dave’s too many times to ever go back.

      • Fourscore

        They had to leave town here and none too soon…

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        We’ve only found two places here in NoVa that could’ve held a candle to the barbecue in Texas.

        Granted, I haven’t tried the ritzy stuff in closer to the district, but that’s not real BBQ anyway.

  8. Pope Jimbo

    I remember the bbq “debate” (there isn’t really one) from yesterday. This should go ahead and settle it. Thanks for playing, Memphis, KC, and the Carolinas.

    Another Texan confusing quantity with quality. So sad.

    Especially since you make the complete opposite argument when snuggly with Banjos.

    • Fourscore

      Now do chili

      • Pope Jimbo

        My wife has issued a fatwah on chili eating at our house. I think she got tired of waking up in a stinky bouncy house.

      • Sensei

        Given that hat is her stance on kimchi?

      • Pope Jimbo

        I’m not a fan of kimchi, so I don’t eat a lot of it. And when I do eat it, it doesn’t seem to wreak havoc on my guts like chili does.

        On the other hand, she will go on a green onion / chive bender in the spring when the first crop comes in. When that happens she is almost unbearable to be around. I told her once that “you stink like a Korean” and she laughed.

      • Fourscore

        “green onion / chive bender”

        Happens every year chez nous

      • Gadfly

        I’m not a fan of kimchi, so I don’t eat a lot of it. And when I do eat it, it doesn’t seem to wreak havoc on my guts like chili does.

        It sounds like all you have to do to get kimchi off the menu at casa Jimbo is start sneaking chili on kimchi nights.

      • Ted S.

        Wait a second. You’re married to the Korean who eats spicy fermented shit like kimchi, and *she’s* the one complaining about spicy?

      • Pope Jimbo

        No, she doesn’t complain about the spiciness. She complains about what chili does to my digestive system.

        Like I said, if I don’t vent off the gas from under the sheets when I go to bed, we are in danger of the entire bed floating off.

      • banginglc1

        You sleep in a bouncy house? Every child’s dread!!

      • R C Dean

        Can’t tell if typo.

      • banginglc1

        I seem to be making a habit of typo’s this morning . . . .It’s a good thing I’m not working at work or people might figure out my incompetence.

      • Agent Cooper

        a stinky bouncy house.

        She sleeps in the backyards of kids having birthday parties?

    • Not Adahn

      BBQ is sold by the pound, not the gram.

    • sloopyinca

      Another Texan confusing quantity with quality. So sad.

      Why not just go ahead and have both?

      • Jarflax

        No way that thing maintains even heat. Yet again Texas screws something up trying to be bigger than everyone else.

  9. Pat

    I don’t even know if the birthday boy was around for this song, but it’s absolutely brilliant.

    That was the last record he did with them. Too bad they decided to make it into a double album with 50% filler. Sometimes what you leave out is just as important as what you leave in.

    • Fourscore

      “Sometimes what you leave out is just as important as what you leave in.”

      Said no one’s girl friend ever

      • Pat
      • Not Adahn

        -2 vas deferens

  10. Pope Jimbo

    Get back to the plantation rice paddy!

    Local dustup in the Hmong community over Trump supporters/traitors.

    Moua’s Facebook post sparked the controversy, saying that “in Nazi Germany, they enlisted Jews to carry out Hitler’s orders … this is our Judenrat committee,” referring to the Jewish councils the Nazis tasked with organizing the selection of victims to go to the death camps. He included a photo of people who attended an Asian Pacific American training hosted by the state GOP and Trump’s campaign.

    Moua is not apologizing for the post.

    “Look, I may have offended people, and it may have been a stark over-hyperbole … the comparison, though, is correct in my view,” he said.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Also buried in that story is this tidbit that I hadn’t known about

      The controversy also comes as Hmong Republican Sia Lo challenges longtime U.S. Rep. Betty McCollum, a Democrat, in the district including St. Paul where much of the state’s Hmong population resides. McCollum has written to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo strongly opposing the Trump administration’s pressuring Laos to sign a repatriation agreement and accept residents with deportation orders.

      I think it is still a giant uphill battle to unseat McCollum, but the last time a long serving liberal in Minnesoda was unseated was when Omar beat Phyllis Khan when she road the Somali immigrants to victory.

      • Swiss Servator

        “when she road the Somali immigrants to victory”

        But there are no ROADZ in Somalia!!!

      • Fourscore

        But there are a lot of Somalis on the roadz in the TCities

    • Swiss Servator

      The Hmong should be every grateful to the Democrats…I mean, they have never left them hanging before, right?

      • Lord Digby's Spirit Animal

        Listen–Eastwood totally exploited the Hmong kid in his movie! And, CE is a Rethuglican, ergo, White Savior! I mean, just ask the dude; he’ll tell you aaaaallll about it.

      • sloopyinca

        I assume you’re talking about Nixon’s war in SE Asia. You know, because it started and ended under Nixon.
        -ahistorical idiot

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Nazi comparisons are always out of line.
      Also, know who else used stark over-hyperbole to demonize a subset of people for a political end?

      • Fourscore

        Folks in Bismarck are just as nice as those in Fargo.

        /High fives Mike S, grins, slips the 20 into my pocket

      • Swiss Servator

        20?!!! Man, I can’t even get a 2 dollar bill for adding gifs!

      • Pope Jimbo

        Because we all know that you secretly like it.

      • Fourscore

        Hey, we’re talking NoDak here, even a 20 is cheap

      • Gadfly

        Alright, here’s your $2:

        [Insert $2 bill GIF here]

        😉

      • Bobarian LMD

        Same as downtown.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Pretty much everyone?

      • sloopyinca

        Third-wave feminazis?

    • Q Continuum

      One of the commenters actually blamed the Fall of Saigon on Trump.

      They are beyond parody.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        One of them said socialism and communism have nothing to do with each other.

        You can’t argue with stupid.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Those comments are replete with unhinged stupidity.

      • Pat

        Even in the classical Marxist construction you can’t make that argument. Then again if they’d ever read Marx they probably wouldn’t be Marxists.

      • leon

        If he hadn’t dodged the draft he could have single handedly defeated the Vietcong

      • Pope Jimbo

        Uffda. Why did you look at the comments in the Strib? You never look at the comments in the Strib.

    • leon

      ““Look, I may have offended people, and it may have been a stark over-hyperbole … the comparison, though, is correct in my view,””

      Look it might be absolutely false, but I still feel that it was right.

      Pretty much sums up modern political thought.

    • straffinrun

      Anybody here own one a Roomba? Seems worthless to me.

      • Lord Digby's Spirit Animal

        Not yet, but wife wants one.

        It should be noted that, in 14 years, I can count on one hand the number of times she’s cleaned floors.

        Yeah…

      • Pope Jimbo

        Are we really talking about actual floor cleaning? Or did we veer off into Phrasingtopia?

      • Lord Digby's Spirit Animal

        Actual floor cleaning.

        Also–maybe…?

      • Tundra

        Not a Roomba, but we do have a robot vac.

        We have a lot of wood floor and a dog, so it’s nice to just push a button, but honestly if it breaks I probably won’t buy another.

      • Sensei

        It was a present. Useful for touch-up cleaning and awesome to get under the bed. My wife likes it.

        In a 2LDK with a futon Roomba-kun may be less useful.

      • invisible finger

        I own a robot vac. Best appliance purchase I ever made. But I have a one-story house.

      • Chipwooder

        My mom has one. It’s not the world’s best vacuum but the idea is that, by vacuuming all the damned time, you never need heavy duty vacuuming. Seems to work.

        She kept her old canister vacuum for big spills, things like that.

      • banginglc1

        She kept her old canister vacuum for big spills, things like that.

        These euphemisms!

      • sloopyinca

        We have one. It’s awesome.

      • Jerms

        Love it-except for the time my pup took a big dump and the roomba spread ot to every corner of the house. Still have nightmares about cleaning shit out of the fringes of the rug. Had to take the machine apart and clean every nook and cranny.

      • Bobarian LMD

        There was a Best of Craigslist ad for that subject.

        Free to good home…

  11. Tundra

    Hi Sloop!

    Sorry about the shit day yesterday. Today will be better.

    Birthday boy is 50 fucking years old. Damn, where did the time go?

    Oh well, we’re not dead yet.

    Kinda have to link this, too.

    Have a great day!

    • robc

      Okay, fun game, without looking it up, name another Murray Head song.

      I cant, can anyone?

      • Tundra

        I’ve got nothin’.

      • leon

        Another song from “Chess”

      • Not Adahn

        That must have been one of the worst musicals of all time considering how many times it hasn’t been revived.

      • robc

        The soundtrack has exactly one good song. The musical is awful (I havent seen it, but read the script in the distant past…and have heard the soundtrack).

      • Not Adahn

        I mean, fucking Starlight Express gets remade all the time.

      • SugarFree

        Skates, gay as two guys on a moped, costumes. It was tailor-made to be revived.

      • The Last American Hero

        Some people are into watching dudes pull a train.

      • Florida Man

        I did not like the pirates of penzance. The modern Major General song is the only good part.

      • Ted S.

        Wasn’t he on the soundtrack of “Jesus Christ Superstar”?

      • robc

        Apparently “Superstar” is his other hit.

      • Rhywun

        I cant, can anyone?

        Nope.

        I do know his brother is Giles from Buffy.

      • robc

        I never made the connection, that is the best piece of trivia I have heard in a while.

      • robc

        And now I am trying to remember if Anthony was in “Once More with Feeling” and what he sang if he was.

      • Rhywun

        Yes, he was in it. I recall a duet with Buffy while they were training. And a number in the bookstore with most of the gang.

      • robc

        Yes, the training montage song, I remember that now.

      • invisible finger

        I know he was in Jesus H Christ Superstar.

  12. Q Continuum

    Thot Thursday is lubed up and ready to go.

  13. leon

    If what Trump has said counts as calling for violence, then Schumer can’t retreat and say everyone is being unfair to him about his words.

    • straffinrun

      Schumer has done this stuff before. He was the guy who said on Meat The Press that Trump better watch out about talking smack to the intelligence agencies. “They have six ways from Sunday at getting even”. (Something to that effect).

      • Q Continuum

        Must be pretty awesome to represent a constituency that will reelect you no matter what you say or do.

      • Pope Jimbo

        NY-ers are suckers for a big bouncy rack.

      • Swiss Servator

        “Meat The Press”

        You butchered that name.

      • Nephilium

        Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

      • Jarflax

        In Chicago? You need to step up your game…

      • straffinrun

        Gives Chuck Todd new meaning.

      • Rebel Scum

        Cuts right to the point.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      If it weren’t for double standards, nobody in DC would have any

  14. straffinrun

    Don’t know much, but I do know not to get into a BBQ debate with a man who links Red Hot Chili Peppers.

    • leon

      Don’t stop because of that.

      • straffinrun

        I’m stopping because I don’t even know if BBQ is an abbreviation or acronym.

      • Tundra

        BigBouncyQgirls?

      • Tejicano

        Neither. Bar-BQ is a brand from a ranch in east Texas. The brand is a “bar” over the letters “B” and “Q”.

        And guess what? They don’t brand hogs.

      • UnCivilServant

        That’s just because they’re lazy, and didn’t properly keep the hogs bounded in. Now look where that got them. Hogs all over the place without any proof of ownership.

      • R C Dean

        Tasty, delicious hogs all over the place without any proof of ownership.

        You say that like its a bad thing*.

        *It actually is a bad thing.

      • Bobarian LMD

        The loose ones don’t tend to be all that tasty.

      • R C Dean

        The cowboys trap them and fatten them up some before selling them at a premium as “wild boar” or somesuch.

        Cowboys be crazy, though. Still, its a nice sideline for some of them.

      • Jarflax

        Incorrect, barbecue comes from barbacoa a Taino Indian word for grilling. It predates Texas by a chunk.

    • Rebel Scum

      Red Hot Chili Peppers

      I find them to be a little more chilly than pepper.

  15. Pat

    Judge dismisses professor’s lawsuit over transgender pronouns

    A judge has ruled that Shawnee State University did not violate a professor’s constitutional rights by punishing him for referring to a transgender female student by male pronouns.

    The lawsuit was filed in November 2018 after the university issued a written warning to Nicholas Meriwether, a professor in the Philosophy department, for violating the Ohio university’s nondiscrimination policy. University officials told the professor, who refers to students by titles such as mister and miss, that he could either eliminate all sex-based titles or pronouns when talking to students or honor students’ gender identities.

    “Public universities have no business compelling people to express ideological beliefs that they don’t hold. And we are currently evaluating our next steps with our client in ensuring that these basic principles are respected,” said Meriwether’s attorney, Travis Barham, in a statement after the decision on Feb. 12.

    Meriwether, a “professing evangelical Christian” and member of the Presbyterian Church of America, claimed in the lawsuit that the school was violating his first amendment freedoms of both speech and religion. Shawnee State University asked for the lawsuit to be dismissed, saying that it was in the professor’s job description to honor the student’s gender.

    The school said in a statement it values “freedom of expression” and maintains “an educational and work environment that is free from discrimination, retaliation and harassment.”

    • R C Dean

      “it was in the professor’s job description to honor the student’s gender”

      So I guess if his job description said to flunk every Muslim, that would be totes legal, too?

      • leon

        Its a sticky one. I could see you firing a teacher if you found out they were insulting students. Can’t be harrasing the customers. But I don’t believe in forcing people to say things they don’t believe.

    • Chipwooder

      I can’t wait for the day when my son insists on being called “Your Imperial Majesty”.

      • Jerms

        True story–i work at a firehouse in the Bronx, class trip comes one day. Twin boy and girl in the class with the names–Yaheiness and Yamajesty.

      • R C Dean

        Reminds me of a birth announcement I saw ages ago. Twin girls, named “Chianti” and “Chablis”.

      • Jarflax

        Did Chianti enjoy her dinner with Hannibal?

      • grrizzly

        I saw a live performance by the Lady Chablis in Savannah before she died. She was much better in the movie.

      • Bobarian LMD

        My brother’s got two kids…

        I named em.

        Denise and Denephew.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Ugs. My kids had classmates named “Princess” and “Prince”. Every terrible think you can think of their mother is probably true. They both went by “P” which was incredibly impressive, since they were in like 2nd grade when they realized their names where stupid.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      Ehhh. Some of this pronoun shit is militant and getting out of hand. I roll my eyes and sigh whenever I see a professional email with a signature on the bottom that includes “My pronouns are X, Y, and Z”. Whatever Xer.

      On the other hand, I have a F to M colleague. He’s real big into the LGQTB thing, but doesn’t come across as militant or an asshole about it if anyone messes up his pronouns. I use his preferred pronouns because it’s a courteous way to treat a colleague, especially when they aren’t being jerks about it. It doesn’t cost me anything. The professor in this article come across as a bit of a dick. Though, the student could be a militant asshole too.

      • leon

        :DISCLAIMER: I’m not saying that you are saying this, just pointing something out :/DISCLAIMER:

        The professor in this article come across as a bit of a dick.

        This is what they will argue, and why it is totally legitimate to be punishing people for not saying things they don’t believe.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        This is what they will argue, and why it is totally legitimate to be punishing people for not saying things they don’t believe.

        Well, he does sound like a dick. My opinion on that is completely separate from whatever they argue.

        Of course it’s legitimate for people to be punished for saying things that disrupt your work environment. Whether proper use of pronouns is one of those things, I think it depends on the environment.

        Legitimacy aside, unless if you have the political capital to handle the fallout, it’s a dumb move to intentionally disrupt your workplace. I’ve sat quiet as the senior VPs went on a rant about the need for gun control and children dying in our schools. I have no doubt that I would have been punished for speaking my beliefs about gun rights. I think pronouns are a stupid hill to die on, but whatever.

      • leon

        I think pronouns are a stupid hill to die on, but whatever.

        I used to think so to. But there is something different between ‘Rolling your eyes and ignoring it’ when your VP goes on a political rant, and ‘You will say there are 4 fingers Winston’. You are telling people that they must say someone they believe is a man is a woman. So yeah the guy sounds like a dick. I find that irrelevant. And as i stated elswhere, i think a university has a right to fire someone for causing hostile environments. My main point however is that I think pronouns are a “Hill to Die On”.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I don’t think using a pronoun signifies belief. It’s just social lubrication.

        When my 5 year old comes at me with “Rarwhhh!” and I say “You’re a scary dinosaur!”, it doesn’t mean I really believe my daughter is a dinosaur. I’m just humoring her.

      • leon

        There’s a difference between you voluntarily playing with your child, and being told (as many people are in many western countries) You will say X or be punished. Policing what people can say is the best attempt at policing what you can think.

      • Gadfly

        I used to think so to. But there is something different between ‘Rolling your eyes and ignoring it’ when your VP goes on a political rant, and ‘You will say there are 4 fingers Winston’. … My main point however is that I think pronouns are a “Hill to Die On”.

        That’s where I’m at. While this may just be some fashionable silliness (and I do think it is silly to pretend people can change sex, although I will admit that modern medicine can make a pretty fine facsimile of the thing), it feels like it could alternatively be the leading edge for more sinister things. After all, once you submit to calling male female and vice versa, what rationale is there to refuse to calling up down, etc? If it becomes offensive not to agree that the chocolate ration has been increased from 5g to 3g, how can one object to that if one does not object to the former? After all, every disagreement is to some extent asocial, so shouldn’t we all just accept the lies to go along and get along?

      • Raven Nation

        “I think pronouns are a stupid hill to die on”

        I tend to agree with this. And, I’m more offended by the grammatical offense of referring to one person as “they.”

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        The singular they has pretty much always been a part of the English language. Chaucer and Chesterfield both used it.

      • Raven Nation

        Good point. But using it to refer to one person because they’re unwilling to identify as a single gender seems an add usage.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        The history of all languages is evolution by “odd usage” to fill social goals of the communicators. The written word fixing grammar across space and time is the aberration, not the norm.

        *Glances around to make sure HM isn’t around to school my ass*

      • Raven Nation

        Hmm, I’ll have to give that some thought.

      • R C Dean

        Of course it’s legitimate for people to be punished for saying things that disrupt your work environment. Whether proper use of pronouns is one of those things, I think it depends on the environment.

        Or perhaps demanding that people use inapt pronouns is a disruption of the work environment?

        And as i stated elswhere, i think a university has a right to fire someone for causing hostile environments.

        Or perhaps demanding that people use inapt pronouns is causing a hostile environment?

        I don’t think using a pronoun signifies belief. It’s just social lubrication.

        The people demanding that others use inapt pronouns would undoubtedly disagree.

        Once you head down the rabbit-hole of undiluted relativitism, subjectivity, and offense, there are no stable touchpoints or, by definition, objectively right or wrong answers.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        As I mentioned below, I’m not talking about demanding pronouns, just that I think it’s courteous to do when a colleague is nice about it and doesn’t act like an asshole about it.

        And yes, it is environment dependent. If you are working the register at an LGBTQ+/<XYZ bookstore, then yeah I'd say the person not using pronouns is the one causing work disruption.

        If one person is insisting on certain pronouns being used on all-male-but that person construction site, then the person insisting on pronouns is one causing the work disruption.

        I'd consider today's University environment much closer to the LGBT bookstore than a construction site. I'm in school and have to watch my language and what I say constantly or I'm the one who would be causing the disruption. Yeah it sucks, but I don't own the school and they are free to make their own culture and rules. My work environment is much different.

      • R C Dean

        I think it’s courteous to do when a colleague is nice about it and doesn’t act like an asshole about it.

        That’s always been my practice. But that’s not what the article was about. It was about forcing someone to do so, or else lose your job.

        I’m in school and have to watch my language and what I say constantly or I’m the one who would be causing the disruption.

        Sounds like a hostile work environment to me. If the norm at a company is to slap women on the ass and call them “sweetie”, that’s a hostile work environment. Just because its the norm doesn’t mean its OK.

        If refusing to call black people “darkie” at work will get you fired, that’s a hostile work environment, and not just for the black people. Just because its policy, doesn’t mean its OK.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Sounds like a hostile work environment to me. If the norm at a company is to slap women on the ass and call them “sweetie”, that’s a hostile work environment. Just because its the norm doesn’t mean its OK

        Strip Club?

        Got nothing for the darkie one. Escobar’s top lieutenant was called “Blackie”, though that’s not the best example of a non-hostile work environment.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Dean – If you had a bariatric physician that started a consultation with “Ok lard-ass, thanks for waddling in here” and your hospital reprimanded him, would that be a hostile work environment for the physician?

        (If your reply was that the physician has perfect latitude in how they* treat a patient, including shaming them for being fat, what if it was some other physician treating the patient for something not-plausibly-bariatric-related?)

        *wink emoji.

      • R C Dean

        Dean – If you had a bariatric physician that started a consultation with “Ok lard-ass, thanks for waddling in here” and your hospital reprimanded him, would that be a hostile work environment for the physician?

        If insulting bariatric patients was a recognized and accepted therapeutic technique, probably, yes.

        Since its not, then no. Whether its hostile or not boils down to accepted norms.

        The underlying point is the conflict between accepted norms, and pure subjectivity. To listen to them talk, the proggies are totally sold out on pure subjectivity, so that anything and everything that one person says creates a hostile environment, creates a hostile environment. There’s no “reasonable person” standard for them. So, if one person says calling xit by the biologically correct pronouns is hostile, then the person who does so has a precisely equal justification for saying that forcing them to use a biologically incorrect pronoun is equally hostile. Which side of this irreconcilable conflict actually has the better claim to accepted norms is irrelevant, to them.

        Of course, the proggies are stealing a base. They are trying to force a change in accepted norms while simultaneously denying they have any validity.

      • SugarFree

        If you force someone to be polite, they still aren’t being polite: they’re just afraid.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        We’re starting to shift to away from what I was saying. Which just that if a colleague is nice about it and doesn’t act like an asshole, I think it’s courteous to use whatever pronoun they want. The militancy thing is different and it could be that this student was a real jerk. They can both be jerks.

      • SugarFree

        Sorry, I was more commenting on the idea of trying to police politeness.

        But, I agree, meet politeness with politeness, and jerks should get it right in the neck.

      • leon

        I’d agree that politeness engenders more politeness.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        whenever I see a professional email with a signature on the bottom that includes “My pronouns are X, Y, and Z”

        You’re shitting me. Please tell me you’re shitting me.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I wish. They all seem to be from white women in HR.

      • Ted S.

        Way to assume their gender.

      • SugarFree

        People put it on their name tags for conferences. Not many, but more all the time. Email tags have already been called a “best practice” but it’s hasn’t been made mandatory yet.

      • Raven Nation

        I think our union will prevent that. I do have one leftist colleague who has told me if she is forced to identify pronouns, she’s going to use “it.”

      • Chipwooder

        Email tags have already been called a “best practice” but it’s hasn’t been made mandatory yet.

        I am never, ever going to bow to that bullshit. If I end up selling pencils and string on street corners as a result, then I’ll just live with eating out of dumpsters.

        A man can only put up with so much.

      • Raven Nation

        Becoming fairly common in my line of work.

    • creech

      Professor calling on students: “You, with the ugly purple sweater.” “You, with the ridiculous mullet.” “You, with what appears to be FLBP.”

    • Bobarian LMD

      Not for nothing but she ain’t never skied nor rode a bike.

      From her turn on the catwalk, she can barely walk.

    • Urthona

      No

    • gbob

      “Ballot lickers” will be my new preferred term for lefty voters.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      The envelopes they’re mailed in, use a sponge with water.

    • The Last American Hero

      Mail in voting in WA.

  16. banginglc1

    My favorite BBQ is the same as my favorite other foods. Whichever is supplied by others is my favorite at that moment.

    • Lord Digby's Spirit Animal

      Hey–we could each take a nostril…once around the block, and meet up later for smokes.

    • Pat

      Remember in the ’80s when horny men just couldn’t stop themselves from constantly raping Andrea Dworkin?

    • gbob

      I’m glad she clarified. I was having a tough time deciding if I wanted to copulate with her or a rusty blender. Basically a coin flip. Thankfully this will make my decision easier.

    • Pope Jimbo

      “This past year, I realized — my, my, my are they obsessed with our bodies, how we talk, how we look, what we stand for — I mean this type of policing of our bodies is so interconnected to all the social justice movements all around the country,” said Tlaib.

      Now, go have an intervention with your buddy Ilhan Omar and explain to her how the hijab is a symbol of oppression. Explain to her how Islam is all about controlling women by covering them up.

    • leon

      ““This past year, I realized — my, my, my are they obsessed with our bodies, how we talk, how we look, what we stand for — I mean this type of policing of our bodies is so interconnected to all the social justice movements all around the country,””

      Is this ironic coming from a group that is all on board with policing your thoughts.

      • Pat

        Now ask her if I should be able to buy LSD at Walgreens or off myself with secobarbital

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Gay Married Couples Should Be Able To Defend Their Marijuana Crops With Automatic Weapons And Use Over The Counter Beta Blockers To Improve Their Accuracy!!

  17. Rebel Scum

    Arizona takes the lead to protect female athletes.

    Shouldn’t even be necessary, but here we are.

    • straffinrun

      Used to be shirts vs skins. 2020? Clits vs Foreskins.

      • Not Adahn

        “How dare you misgender my shenis!”

      • Lord Digby's Spirit Animal

        shenis

        ::ponders term ‘Mans Pubis’::

        ?

    • Certified Public Asshat

      ?Trans girls are girls? #HB2706 is a harmful bill that sends the message to trans girls that they are not worthy of a full and social life and it denies them the opportunities and experience that their peers have. pic.twitter.com/7Rv6tSBx3v— ACLU of Arizona (@ACLUaz) February 18, 2020

      Why the modifier then? Deep dish pizza is pizza?

      • Rebel Scum

        opportunities and experience

        You have the opportunity to experience competitive sports with others that share the same sex.

        Strange that when it comes to biology leftists don’t care about basic fairness.

      • invisible finger

        They love science except when it doesn’t let them have their way.

      • leon

        There are so many rabbit holes they are trying to cover up with “Why do you hate people you transphobic monster?!?”. There are tons of legitimate questions that they are pretending don’t exist, and the fact that you bring them up makes you a hateful bigot.

  18. Sensei

    Seriously none of the hardcore here have mentioned this?

    Marvel’s Next Superhero Idea Focuses on…Brexit A new team of comic-book characters from the U.K. is about to defend the islands from extraterrestrial shape-shifters

    Now Marvel Comics is launching a new team of superheroes representing England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales. Their mission is to see if they can get along peaceably after Britain’s exit from the European Union and defeat the Skrulls, an extraterrestrial race of shape-shifters from the planet Skrullos.

    Yes, a Brexit-related superhero concept. You read correctly.

    “I don’t think there’s much of a market for pro-British superheroes here,” said Kevin Weir, 19, as he flipped through racks of comics at the Forbidden Planet comic-book store in the Scottish capital. Scotland voted to stay in Europe during the Brexit referendum, and opinion polls show a majority would rather leave the U.K.

    His friend Callie Brown, 20, agreed. “They’re actually called ‘The Union?’” she said, pawing through images of the new characters on a phone. “That’s full-on mental.”

    • ChipsnSalsa

      They just can’t not say something.

      • sloopyinca

        What’s his superpower, straight teeth?

      • Rebel Scum

        Spotted Dick.

      • JD is Unemployed

        I was about to say, it’s not like Marvel doesn’t already have enough British or British-adjacent (LOL) characters to choose from.

        Anyway, you’re all dead from NN repeal, I’m dead from Brexit, and we’re all double dead from Flu Manchu. Shouldn’t this new comic be in the ‘Zombie Marvel’ canon?

      • Rebel Scum

        Captain Britain

        Will need to, yet again, be rescued by Captain America.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Only after picking a fight with Kapitan Germany, aka UberMensch.

    • leon

      “I don’t think there’s much of a market for pro-British superheroes here,” said Kevin Weir, 19, as he flipped through racks of comics at the Forbidden Planet comic-book store in the Scottish capital.

      Well shit, of course there isn’t in Scotland. I bet the author thinks Japanese and Chinese are practically the same language too.

      • JD is Unemployed

        I can’t wait to see all the hilarious Scotch stereotypes in WandaVision. I did get a laugh out of this little gem of attention to detail in Infinity War; the sign in the kebab shop window behind Wanda that read “WE WILL DEEP FRY YOUR KEBAB”. “Social realism” in a super hero fantasy film.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      I don’t read any comics from the big two published after about 2000 or so. For reasons.

      There’s enough Usagi Yojimbo, BPRD, and Rachel Rising out there that I don’t need to both with this shit.

  19. Rebel Scum

    far-left (and far-right) loons act on the words

    No no no, it is only far right-wing violence. It is the greatest danger to the country. I mean, “Steve who?” Right? *sweeps James Hodgkinson under the rug*

  20. Stinky Wizzleteats

    A good video from Razorfist on Bernie losing his ass on Super Tues complete with excerpts from a speech by Ayn Rand:

    https://youtu.be/MI8rZ1N8w74

    I’m not the biggest Rand fan but she nailed it impressively here even though I’d imagine it sounded ridiculous at the time.

    • leon

      Is Razorfist an alter ego for Styxnhammer666?

      • Count Potato

        They are two different people.

    • Count Potato

      I’m not an Ayn Rand fan at all, but that doesn’t mean what she said wasn’t correct. Although, Hayek and others said the same thing.

      • straffinrun

        Throw in some James M. Buchanan and you’ve got what Rand is saying.

      • robc

        I will repeat my comment from some times in the past about Rand and Talib. They are both right 95% of the time and so freaking wrong the other 5% that you wonder how they can even function.

    • straffinrun

      Thanks for the link. A reminder that Ayn could be funny when she wanted to. Objectivism went too far on her ideas, but she certainly had some genius insights. She’s a crappy writer, yeah, yeah. Fine. Still, she made some huge contributions.

  21. Pat

    Did first female-majority legislature in US make a difference?

    Nevada made history when it became the first state in the US with a female-majority legislature, with women holding 51% of the seats, in December 2018.

    The moment was hailed as a great victory for women – but did having more women in power make a practical difference?

    Here are five areas Nevada legislated on in 2019 – which commentators say were helped by the fact there were more women at the table.

    God I can’t fucking wait to leave this shit hole.

    • Q Continuum

      Were those areas related to menstrual cramps? Multiple orgasms? Bra sizing technology? If not, I fail to see how the legislators’ plumbing made any fucking difference.

      • Pat

        Well…

        1. Compensating firefighters who develop breast, uterine and ovarian cancer

    • Nephilium

      Nevada’s at least a fun place to visit.

      • Pat

        I’m so soured on it that I can’t conjure any redeeming values for it anymore. Lost my objectivity. Even the mountain views and sunny weather that I used to really like somehow pisses me off now.

      • Count Potato

        Why, what’s so bad about Nevada?

      • Pat

        A lot of it is just personal – I’ve had consistently bad experiences here. A lot of that’s just coincidences of time and place, but most of my worst memories were made here.

        That aside, it’s just a shitty place to live in many regards. At least southern Nevada. The medical system here is abysmal – there are too few doctors, the quality of care is horrible, and the state medical board makes a practice of looking the other way. One of the physicians who owned an endoscopy clinic where hundreds of patients were infected with hepatitis several years ago actually sat on the medical board at one point, and all of his business partners in that venture escaped any criminal liability for their practice. All but 1 had their license reinstated after a probationary period.

        We’re ranked 49th in the country for education.

        The political system is disgustingly corrupt.

        Since everyone is here from somewhere else there’s little sense of community, which is reflected in the way that people treat each other. Since everything here was built in the last 20 years there’s no sense of permanence – everything is either chasing last year’s L.A. fad or a sad, pathetic reminder of the L.A. fad from 5 years ago.

        The infrastructure is horrible. Roads that were built 20 years ago are undergoing complete reconstruction for years at a time and somehow end up in as bad or worse condition afterwards. Traffic is like L.A. Between 11 AM and 6 PM you can count on spending about an hour to drive 20 miles anywhere in the city.

        The famous strip is actually a fantastic metaphor for Las Vegas as a city. The strip is a schmaltzy ersatz reproduction of actual luxury and culture, and the city is a schmaltzy ersatz reproduction of a large metropolitan city. It’s got sprawl, traffic, crime, gangs, homelessness, and dysfunctional politics just like a great modern city should, just no industry, no culture, no traditions, no character. Everything here is a shitty facsimile of what you could find the genuine version of elsewhere.

      • invisible finger

        So in other words it’s the perfect spot for the Raiders.

      • Nephilium

        I’ll be out there the week around Easter (off strip – Orleans), hanging out with a bunch of freaks for Viva if you’re up for meeting up. If nothing else, you can see a whole casino taken over by people and music that really confuses some of the locals and regulars.

      • Pat

        I’ll have to see what my schedule is looking like as we get closer to the date, but I might be able to pop over and say hi – remind me again later so I don’t forget.

    • Chipwooder

      They passed groundbreaking legislation removing sales taxes from white wine and kitty litter.

    • Rhywun

      Female representation in Nevada has been edging upwards for a number of years – the legislature was 39.7% female in 2017, and 33% female in 2015.

      However the growth so far has only been on the Democratic side

      You don’t say.

    • Rebel Scum

      It also removed the requirement that physicians need to certify a woman’s age and marital status, and explain “the physical and emotional implications” of the procedure, before performing an abortion. Instead, the physician simply needs to explain the “discomforts and risks” that could result.

      No need to have a doctor explain relevant information about a procedure I guess.

    • Akira

      Nevada made history when it became the first state in the US with a female-majority legislature, with women holding 51% of the seats

      There’s a 1% gender gap in the state legislature that must be closed! They need to immediately fire a woman to bring this back down to 50/50!

      After all, I’m told that feminism is merely about equality, so I’m sure they’re on the case as we speak to rectify this great systemic injustice.

  22. Q Continuum

    It’s depressing that the Overton Window has shifted to such a degree that Senile Joe is “centrist”.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-surges-by-expanding-the-democratic-electorate-11583364612

    It’s like I said yesterday: people vote based on feelz and personality. Biden has good feelz becuz he’s associated with the Light Bringer when everything was peaceful, pure and idyllic. He’s also this lovable old dood like your favorite uncle, not like mean icky Bad Orange Man who’s mean and says mean things and is a big meanie mean-head.

    Shorter: Suburban mommies (and other nominally “centrist” people) are, in fact, so stupid that they care about good feelz more than their 401Ks.

    • Chipwooder

      Yep. The “muh civility!” crowd adores Biden, who can’t seem to make a campaign trail appearance without insulting a voter, who called Tea Parties “terrorists” while he was VP, who accused of Republicans of wanting to put blacks back in chains.

      It’s all such a charade.

    • creech

      Centrist? Why not? The other day, NBC’s Lester Holt refereed to Sanders as “liberal.”

    • Rhywun

      Nothing says “centrist” like bringing Beto on board to take all your guns.

    • Rebel Scum

      Ban/confiscate commonly owned guns, raise taxes, gov’t healthcare including for illegal aliens, etc.

      Biden is no centrist.

    • Q Continuum

      They do idolize the “noble savages” of pre-Columbian America, so venerating human sacrifice is de rigeur.

      • Drake

        They have cut ties with any sort of morality other than the glory of the state, so makes sense.

    • Q Continuum

      For an election that didn’t matter.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      It looks like you forgot to carry the one but it’s still an impressive showing for a sure thing.

    • sloopyinca

      Local elections and congressional primaries were also held, so this really isn’t surprising at all.

    • creech

      Don’t hire Drake to do your taxes.

      • Drake

        Yep – All the remaining Dem candidates…

  23. Rebel Scum

    Thanks for playing, Memphis, KC, and the Carolinas.

    Meh. Carolina BBQ sauce us where it’s at because it’s all about that southern twang.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Am I a monster if I like them all?

      • Nephilium

        Yes. White barbecue is a crime against meat and humanity.

      • Tundra

        What the fuck is that?

        I’m with CPA. BBQ snobs are as tedious as music snobs.

      • Nephilium

        Alabama White Sauce. It’s a mayo based BBQ sauce used for chicken.

      • Chipwooder

        Alabama white sauce

        It must be a northern Alabama thing. I lived in Baldwin County on the coast and never saw such a thing.

      • Nephilium

        Get out of my head!

      • Madhatter

        I currently live in Baldwin County. White Sauce has arrived..tasteless crap.

      • sloopyinca

        I’m no bbq snob. I’m just trolling. I love visiting my parents so I can enjoy quality pulled pork bbq with that delicious vinegar-based sauce. I just prefer a Texas plate of brisket, pulled pork, smoked sausage and charro beans.

        Oh yeah, that’s the other thing. You gotta have great beans for a plate to be complete.

        And if I’m being honest, I probably make the best charro beans in the fucking world. I’ve literally had people beg me to give up my recipe or open up a restaurant that serves nothing but charro beans. They’re that good. And that’s not bragging. In fact, I may be underselling my charro beans a bit.

      • Pine_Tree

        So submit it as an article here. I’ve actually never heard the term “charro beans” before, but I like everything else on your plate, so I’m sure I’d like them, too.

      • sloopyinca

        Yeah, I can’t do that. Maybe one day when we have the Great Glibs Meetup, I’ll make a bunch of it.

        Which reminds me: we need to have a Great Glibs Meetup.

      • banginglc1

        You’re so humble!

      • sloopyinca

        I try to be. ?

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Fine, just to be contrarian, I’ll join team #koreanbbq.

    • Pine_Tree

      You mean North (vinegar) or South (mustard-ish)? I’m a Cracker, not a norc, but I have to admit that if I’m going to put anything on barbecue, I vastly prefer it to be North Carolina-style.

      • Rebel Scum

        North Carolina I guess. I am not an aficionado. Anytime I get something labeled “Carolina style” it is tangy bc of vinegar.

      • Pine_Tree

        (my simplified version with which others may disagree) – NC style IS vinegar that has spices/peppers in it, and is translucent. SC style looks like slightly thinned dark-ish mustard with some other spices in it, and is opaque.

      • Nephilium

        Mustard BBQ and pork go together wonderfully.

      • sloopyinca

        You mean eastern (vinegar) and western (mustard-ish)? Eastern is better. In fact, it’s downright delightful.

      • Pine_Tree

        I’m OK with that distinction as well – just learned it NC/SC. But definitely vinegar one is best.

    • Swiss Servator

      “Carolina BBQ sauce us where it’s at”

      Cannibalism in the Carolinas?!

    • Chipping Pioneer

      Listen, we all know that Brooklyn BBQ is the Y best.

    • Q Continuum

      KC is the best and anyone who thinks otherwise is objectively wrong and a Communist.

      • leon

        Fighting over what BBQ is best is why the south lost the war.

        Fight me.

    • Bobarian LMD

      You crossed out the wrong letter.

  24. Rebel Scum

    DNC still keeping female poc’s down.

    The Democratic National Committee (DNC) affirmed on Tuesday that the requirements to participate in upcoming Democrat debates will go up — a sign that the DNC will forgo the rule that allowed a candidate to participate in a debate if he or she had a single pledged delegate.

    The news coincides with Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) gaining a delegate from American Samoa on Super Tuesday.

    “We have two more debates– of course the threshold will go up,” DNC Communications Director Xochitl Hinojosa said on Tuesday.

    “By the time we have the March debate, almost 2,000 delegates will be allocated. The threshold will reflect where we are in the race, as it always has,”

    • Drake

      Gabbard would steal votes from their anointed one – while also highlighting how geriatric all the other remaining Dem candidates are.

      • leon

        She made herself irredeemable in Democrat eyes by not voting to impeach Trump. Despite having the exact same policy positions as Bernie Sanders, except that she’s actually earnest about foreign policy, she does not get love from his supporters. I have a Bernie friend who said “I like her Foreign Policy but don’t like her other stances”. I didn’t ask what specifically, cause to me it all looks indistinguishable from Bernie. But she didn’t believe in Russia-gate and refused to vote for impeachment.

    • banginglc1

      They’ve been moving the goal posts about other things for years. It only makes sense to them to move them for this, as long as they have the desired outcome.

    • creech

      If she had balls she’d show up at the debate and make a scene.

  25. Chipping Pioneer

    Why do progressives want all sorts of regulations on everything imaginable, except for abortion, on which they want absolutely none?

    /rhetorical question

    • leon

      But it’s about Womens Rights. Sure about half of Women don’t think this is a right, and are opposed to it. But they are defective and should have been aborted as children.

      • Akira

        Yep, it’s just pandering to wahmin.

        It comes down to power with them, nothing more. They also insist that anyone who physically shows up should be immediately allowed into the country, even though they want the government monitoring and regulating every other facet of our existence. I think it’s just a long-term plan to import more Democrat voters, then once they’ve flipped Texas and a few other states blue, they’ll crack down harder than ever on illegal immigration.

        “Progressives” have no principles whatsoever except “obtain power”.

    • ChipsnSalsa

      *hovers over link*

      What is wrong with you people?!?

      • Chipwooder

        What do you mean, “you people”?

      • ChipsnSalsa

        The royal “we”.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Transcription error caused by Chips voice-to-comment software. He really was calling out Montanans “ewe people”.

      • Jarflax

        I thought he was just trying to talk about (((people))) with a Swedish Minnesoda accent?

    • Pope Jimbo

      “Man with corona virus seeking woman with Lyme disease”

    • Rebel Scum

      her bosom was moist with feverish desire *blows nose*

      • Pope Jimbo

        Watch as bull blows nose all over wife’s chest and her cuck husband licks it up.

      • Pat

        bruh…

      • pistoffnick

        Oddly specific

        Now we know who writes the blurbs for those online “documentaries”

  26. zwak

    Yeah… I just need to say it, speak truth to power…

    Best BBQ is in California. Santa Maria style. All else is just putting makeup on a pock-marked face.

    • Chipwooder

      Cmon, you made that up, didn’t you?

    • JD is Unemployed

      You could have said “lipstick on a pig”, which leaves the door open for a something something barbecue rub makeup mixup something something your wife’s lips something something hot mesquite marinade smarts down there, I had to use ranch to cool it off.

      Eh. I’ll give that one to the writers and let them figure it out. Could probably get the extra 2 mins of material before the commercial break we need.

    • sloopyinca

      Quality tri tip is a gift from God.

      • zwak

        Oooo… and the pinquito beans, and the bread, and the chorizo!

      • Bobarian LMD

        This is true.

        The only thing truly right about California Style BBQ is the selection of that meat as the basis.

        Brisket flavor with out brisket toughness.

    • Q Continuum

      If anything that’s ever been said on this site is ban-worthy, it’s this.

    • Fourscore

      I ain’t never met not BBQ that I didn’t like.

    • Shirley Knott

      Nah, best BBQ is South Dakota cob-fired BBQ.

      • Shirley Knott

        I grew up just down the road from Vermillion. I didn’t know about this until more than 40 years after leaving the state ;-\

      • Madhatter

        The hubs is from Madison.

      • zwak

        Nice!

  27. Pope Jimbo

    HR just came around the cubes and dropped off a note that said: “WASH YOUR HANDS YOU FILTHY CORONAVIRUS CARRIERS” along with a company branded hand tube of hand sanitizer.

    I asked my boss if everyone got that, or just me (and other hygiene suspects).

    • JD is Unemployed

      I wonder if there’s an inversely proportional market for just getting coronavirus ASAP to get it over and done with, like parents hot-boxing there kids with a chicken pox vector.

      • JD is Unemployed

        *vector = infected child

      • Florida Man

        My mom exposed us to chicken pox to get it over with. Now I can look forward to shingles when I’m old instead of just getting the varicella vaccine. Yay mom…

      • Pat

        I performed a community service by infecting about 20 kids in my church class with chickenpox before I was symptomatic. Lucky me, I got it i think a year before the vaccine was available.

      • Jarflax

        Might want to wait till we know for certain you cannot recontract the disease…

    • straffinrun

      I don’t use hand sanitizer when I’m home alone.

      • Bobarian LMD

        It makes your penis burn?

      • JaimeRoberto Delecto

        Just Vaseline?

  28. leon

    I know that nobody else is, but is anyone else annoyed that FiveThirtyEight won’t update their forcast because they are still waiting for Super Tuesday states to be called. They will be waiting for weeks for California.

    • Florida Man

      I just want to know where I can bet heavily on Biden to win. If he takes the presidency I’ll have some nice foldin’ money. If trump wins my 401K will get a bump. Win-Win.

    • JD is Unemployed

      What are the odds on the usual Dem ballot-correctors doing their part for both sides? As in, are there roughly equal numbers of boxes of Biden and Bernie votes stuffed into the trunks of cars, buried or burned in Death Valley, or dumped into the foundations of large construction projects? (Probably not the last one because they don’t build much in CA, apparently)

      • Pope Jimbo

        Odds are very good. I was listening to NPR on the way in this morning and they said “these ballots normally trend liberal so many are hoping that they may help Democrats trailing GOP opponents and a statewide vote on school funding that is trailing”.

        So not only is it the presidential campaign that is going to “unexpectedly” benefit from these votes, all sorts of other liberal hobby horses will also do well.

        Remember that CA has the top 2 regardless of party rule for their primaries. So I’m sure a lot of races will now have two Dems to choose from instead of letting an icky GOP name on the ballot.

      • Gadfly

        these ballots normally trend liberal

        That’s not suspicious. Not suspicious at all.

    • robc

      Yes.

    • Jarflax

      I am

    • leon

      Perfect.

    • ChipsnSalsa

      fuck yeah!

    • Raven Nation

      Hah! Below the pic:

      “Many of you told us you wouldn’t subscribe until we offered Paypal as a payment option. You apparently weren’t bluffing, so we finally caved and added Paypal. Now — like the unbeliever faced with God’s invisible qualities displayed in nature — you are without excuse.”

    • Drake

      Not satire unfortunately.

    • Rhywun

      LOL

  29. Rebel Scum

    Tulsi Gabbard ?✔
    @TulsiGabbard

    .@DanaPerino I’m not quite sure why you’re telling FOX viewers that Elizabeth Warren is the last female candidate in the Dem primary. Is it because you believe a fake indigenous woman of color is “real” and the real indigenous woman of color in this race is fake?

    Sassy.

    • leon

      Wait…. I thought Tulsi was Indian. Is she also Half Hawaiian?

      • Rebel Scum

        She’s so nice she makes you want samoa.

      • SugarFree

        She is a Hindu, but not ethnically Indian in any way.

        Her father is half-Samoan.

      • leon

        :runs and cries in embarrassment:

        So Shika hates her purely because she’s a Hindu?

      • leon

        And if she’s not part Hawaiian, i’m going to call foul on the “indigenous” claim.

      • SugarFree

        Well, it is “American Samoa.” If you accept that argument, she’s 257 times more “indigenous” than Warren.

      • Chipwooder

        She’s a non-Indian Hindu? First one I’ve ever heard of.

      • SugarFree

        “Tulsi” is a Sanskrit word for a type of sacred basil.

      • leon

        So her name isn’t even Indigenous the Hawaii!? I’ve been lied to.

      • SugarFree

        She didn’t even move to Hawaii until she was 2-year-old.

      • Chipwooder

        So everything about her is a fraud!

        Seriously, though, I just assumed she was part Indian.

      • Q Continuum

        She definitely wants some Jew in her.

      • Bobarian LMD

        (((Services))) offered?

  30. Drake

    Quest Diagnostics to launch coronavirus test service.

    I was thinking that between Quest, LabCorp, Arup, and a few others, something over a million people have some kind of lab test daily. If the CDC really wanted to know how widespread the virus was, just pay them to test a significant portion of those samples for Corona as well as whatever the ordered test was. Within days they would know how much of the virus was in circulation and in what parts of the county. They would have to guide the labs on how to report positive findings to doctors and patients.

    • R C Dean

      They would have to guide the labs on how to report positive findings to doctors and patients.

      Not sure Quest needs government guidance on how to do something they do hundreds of thousands of times a day.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Is there already a procedure for telling patients and doctors about a test they didn’t ask for?

      • Drake

        So Sorry – You Have Kung Flu

      • Bobarian LMD

        Protect yo Neck, cause you now part of the Wuhan Clan!

    • WTF

      Do we really want to set the precedent that the government can order your blood samples tested for things you didn’t authorize?

      • Fatty Bolger

        Yeah, that’s a serious problem. One way to do it would be for the government to pay the lab for the test, but require the lab to obtain patient approval before doing it. Not everybody would opt in, of course, but enough probably would.

        Whether it’s a smart use of the money, I have no idea. But I assume it’s mostly going to be wasted, anyway.

      • Drake

        They could just report the findings blindly without informing patients… but that puts the lab in a tricky position too.

    • Rebel Scum

      I used to have the biggest crush on Xena. In fact, I still do.

  31. leon

    Paul Simon’s Graceland is one of the songs that i started out not caring for, but has really grown on me.

  32. l0b0t

    While I grew up on the Florida/South Georgia style – sweet, slightly hot, vinegar based sauce FTW! I AM a BBQ universalist; every regional variation has its charms and I can enjoy pork, beef, or chicken for their own varied flavors/textures.

    • R C Dean

      Same here. I’d even try that mayo-based barbeque. Of course, I’ll try nearly anything once.

      • l0b0t

        Well, Chris Kimball (via television) taught me that mayo is great for adhering the panko mix to the pork chops for some amazing crispy baked chops. And years of short-order work taught me that mayo, thanks to its very high smoke point, makes the best bread spread for grilling bread for sammiches. So, I too would try a mayo based BBQ.

      • pistoffnick

        “Of course, I’ll try nearly anything once.”

        {You got that right}

        In the words of the ancient philosopher, Lynyrd Skynyrd, “Things I like, I try ’em twice”

      • Rebel Scum

        I’ll try nearly anything once.

        So will this guy.

    • Chipwooder

      Pretty much, yeah. My first love will always be NC-style pulled pork sandwiches with slaw, but I can also enjoy Memphis style ribs, Texas style brisket, and plenty of others.

      One of the highlights of my trip to Texas a few years back was the briskets my buddy made. Fan-fucking-tastic.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Texas style brisket

        That’s my favorite. I recently saw a documentary that covered Aaron Franklin’s restaurant. They don’t open until 11am, but people start lining up outside at maybe 5:30am. An employee goes through the line and takes orders. They sell out for the entire day before even opening and then the last customer in line has to hold a sign indicating that’s the cut-off. It’s crazy.

      • UnCivilServant

        Sounds like too much trouble.

      • R C Dean

        It turned into a big hype/status thing in Austin (imagine that).

        I have no doubt its top-shelf, but c’mon. I’d love to try it, but no way am I standing in line for 7 hours. I can’t think of a single thing I would do that for.

      • UnCivilServant

        The escape flight from a doomed planet.

      • R C Dean

        Depends. Am I in business class, or coach?

      • WTF

        Yeah, if you really want to try it just pay someone to do it for you.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I’d love to try it, but no way am I standing in line for 7 hours. I can’t think of a single thing I would do that for.

        Yep. My kids are almost old enough to start going to amusement parks. I’m already planning on shelling out for the fast-track passes that let you skip the lines and go right on the roller coasters.

      • Florida Man

        Halloween horror nights is pointless without the express pass

      • blighted_non_millenial

        No, need. You can order ahead to go (have to do it about a month out and buy at least $75 or so worth of q).

    • PieInTheSky

      why do you Americans insist on ruining good meat with sauce?

      Salt, pepper, thyme, fire. Garlic sauce only on certain cuts of pork or mutton.

      • Sean
      • PieInTheSky

        that don’t count as barbecue sauce…

      • robc

        The French started it. Although in their case, it probably wasnt good meat.

      • PieInTheSky

        i always found blue cheese sauce to strong if the meat is good.

      • Jarflax

        You don’t barbecue ‘good’ meat. You’ll notice that the beef being barbecued is brisket not tenderloin.

      • KSuellington

        Chimichurri would like a word with you.

      • PieInTheSky

        do not be repetitive

  33. Gadfly

    I feel I need to link to the NY Post article about the toilet paper shortage due to virus panic buying. The paper that brought you the “headless body found in topless bar” headline continues its tradition of giving Swiss material to narrow his gaze at:

    In Australia, where authorities had stressed that there is no shortage, people have wiped store shelves clean … The runs on toilet paper sparked the trending hashtags #toiletpapergate and #toiletpapercrisis.

    • UnCivilServant

      That makes no sense. Are they going to make homemade masks out of the stuff?

      • Raven Nation

        Part of it is people thinking there may be some kind of “stay at home” order and/or they don’t want to be going into spaces with large numbers of people. So, stock up now to avoid going to the store if the virus becomes more widespread.

      • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

        Which is why the spousal unit directed me to get an extra 30-pack of Kirkland toilet paper last Thursday (when there was still a metric shit-ton of ’em in our local Costco).

    • Raven Nation

      I read the other day that over this past weekend, supermarkets in Auckland, New Zealand saw a 20% spike in sales.

    • leon

      If Bernie Sanders was president, we would never run out of essential needs like Toilet Paper.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Would it all be 1 ply though?

      • Rebel Scum

        Leaves. Because something something environment.

      • Nephilium

        No one needs more then 1 ply!

        /Bernie

      • invisible finger

        If Bernie sanders were president, he’d tell you to wipe your ass with dollar bills, weeks after abolishing currency.

    • R C Dean

      authorities had stressed that there is no shortage

      Well, then I guess there’s nothing to worry about.

      people have wiped store shelves clean

      Oh.

      • Spudalicious

        I went to pick up paper products yesterday because we’re running low. The shelves were decimated.

      • R C Dean

        Inventory was down by 10%? Doesn’t sound that bad, really. I’m surprised you even noticed.

      • Spudalicious

        The entire aisle was empty.

    • PieInTheSky

      toilette paper? What is wrong with tree bark?

    • Rebel Scum

      This is why I always keep an extra 12 pack on hand. Toilet paper as well.

      • CPRM

        We professional drunks call it a Justin. As in just in case.

    • leon

      Leon’s Rule of Statistics:

      If the statistics quoted to you to prove that something is “good”, seem obscure or not the ones you would pick, it’s because the more obvious statistics contradict the point of the person trying to prove how good that thing is.

      • PieInTheSky

        those are not statistics. they are polls. Are you happier getting a bunch of money? 83% say yes

      • leon

        Exactly, and my point would be, “Asking if someone is happier being given more money” isn’t what i would use to measure if UBI works.

      • WTF

        Although I don’t doubt that free money makes people happier. So what?

      • invisible finger

        Why is it the people getting free money bitch the most?

    • SugarFree

      Considering there are no UBI nations, what is this even based on?

      Also “people are happier when you give them free money” isn’t much of a testable hypothesis.

      • Chipwooder

        Sure it is. Here, I’ll prove it – give me a thousand dollars.

    • Pat

      I still think UBI is a worthwhile alternative to the modern welfare state, but only as a replacement, not a supplement. And in that case, if it’s making the recipients happier it’s probably an indication of failure rather than success.

      • PieInTheSky

        but only as a replacement, not a supplement. – lol

      • robc

        Yes, that is the big issue with the UBI.

        Like school vouchers, it is a half assed solution to a real problem. But the whole assed solution is too far outside the Overton windown.

      • Rhywun

        A thousand bucks a month does not even come close to what some folks are raking in.

  34. Spudalicious

    $8.3 billion for coronavirus. I blame team red.

    • R C Dean

      No fucking shit. What a scam. The only way this should have been done is in a bill that recognized that special funding for a communicable disease means the CDC is broken, and needs to be either shut down and replaced, or comprehensively reformed. Instead, they have rewarded mission creep and incompetence with billions of dollars, and you know what they say about what you reward.

    • Gustave Lytton

      That will be only the first funding bill.

      Also, what RC Dean said. Communicable, easily transmissible diseases is exactly what the CDC and public health should be about, not non-communicable lifestyle ones. Or non-disease political garbage.

    • Rhywun

      I blame team red.

      What are they going to do? Say “no”?! LOL

  35. UnCivilServant

    I’m disappointed. The current generation Crays just look like server racks. They probably are just racks.

    • Pat

      HP continuing its long tradition of ruining everything it touches?

      • PieInTheSky

        the sauce thread is a few comments up

      • Gustave Lytton

        ^^^ sad. I remember when Bill and Dave still walked the earth.

      • banginglc1

        Hmm. . . I read that comment and had a flashback. My uncles Bill and Dave died within a week of each other (both cancer, but different forms) a couple years ago.

      • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

        I remember when HP calculators were the Gold Standard in University. Only feckless dumbasses used Texas Instruments.

        I had three HP calculators, all great (though they were absolute battery hogs).

      • pistoffnick

        I paid $240 for my HP48G. That was a lot of money for a poor college student in the early 90’s

        It served me well, but couldn’t withstand an 8 foot drop onto concrete.

        Now I have an HP48 emulator on my phone. It was free.

        Reverse Polish Notation is cool!

      • Bobarian LMD

        I’ve got my HP15C sitting on my desk.

        It needs batteries, though.

      • Grummun

        Anyone still listening here?

        We solicited a bid from Cray for our 2020 HPC cluster refresh, this was just before the HPE acquisition was announced. They quoted us commodity Intel systems. So, not entirely HPE’s fault. Blame x86.

      • Grummun

        MC68000 is the shiznit.

  36. wdalasio

    Am I the only person getting tired of all the pantsoiling over Coronavirus? As far as I can tell, it’s really pretty much as bad as the flu. Yeah, that still sucks. And the flu can still kill you. But, people are acting like it’s the damned zombie apocalypse.

    • SugarFree

      The Dem primary is boring; they know Trump is going to be re-elected; virus panic is the only TV show on right now.

      • banginglc1

        It also distracts from the failed impeachment proceedings and the Russia hoax.

      • SugarFree

        And is a stick to beat Trump with. I don’t see how we would be anywhere different right now under any President in my lifetime.

      • R C Dean

        Bingo. Its the topic of the current 5 Minutes Trump Hate. They are desperately spinning the administration response as incompetent, failed, blah blah.

    • PieInTheSky

      I am still unsure if I should go on my London vacation or not. I have until 21 March to cancel my accommodation for no cost.

    • leon

      But, people are acting like it’s the damned zombie apocalypse.

      Then people get to act like they are in a cool zombie apocalypse movie.

      But seriously, i’m more worried about the “Big One” earthquake than some dumb flu.

    • Pat

      As far as I can tell, it’s really pretty much as bad as the flu.

      The flu has a much higher kill count, so far at least. Remember SARS? Avian flu? H1N1? The only real difference here is that (IMO) it’s being hyped by the media during an election year for political reasons.

      • Raven Nation

        “it’s being hyped by the media during an election year”

        Hmm, maybe on the US side. But European media as well as New Zealand, Australia, etc., have given it a lot of coverage. That’s not to say they’re reporting accurately, but I think it’s just part of general media “hype.”

        Interestingly, Ron Bailey is telling people to calm down (TOS): https://reason.com/podcast/coronavirus-dont-worry-be-happily-informed/

        “The short version: COVID-19 is a serious problem, especially for older, sicker people with pre-existing medical problems, but its ultimate effects will be ‘like a particularly bad flu season, with a case-fatality rate somewhere between 0.2 and 0.5 percent.'”

      • Gustave Lytton

        Media hype is the same, but there are some differences between those.

    • R C Dean

      Am I the only person getting tired of all the pantsoiling over Coronavirus?

      *checks hospital financials*

      Not the only one, I’m sure, but I’m not tired of the #winning.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Media comes late to the party and reports the most lurid parts and repeats. It’s only going to get worse as testing starts picking up how extensive it’s spread and spreading.

      There are some good reasons for thinking this could be worse than influenza, but also a lot of unknowns.

    • PieInTheSky

      s really pretty much as bad as the flu. – seriously though, the flue is more or less a known quantity. this is not. when something is unknown it makes sense to have extra care…

      • invisible finger

        How is the flu a known quantity? They have to come up with a different flu shot every year because its not the same virus all the time.

        Can someone tell me what good, if any, antibacterial products will do for viruses?

      • Juvenile Bluster

        They do plenty of good, despite that post that went viral (no pun intended).

  37. straffinrun

    Warren out. But you knew that.

    • SugarFree

      The body has stopped twitching? Because she was dead after Iowa.

  38. Raven Nation

    Warren’s out apparently. Can’t find a link but a local news alert just popped.

    • R C Dean

      Interesting. I’m guessing somebody at DNC ran some analytics showing she wasn’t really hurting Bernie, and her supporters were as likely to vote for Slow Joe as the Grandpa Gulag.

    • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

      Bailey peeing down her leg probably sealed the deal.

      Or did I just imagine it somehow?

    • Gustave Lytton

      Who claimed her scalp?

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Being President just wasn’t in her DNA.

      • banginglc1

        Don’t be so savage.

      • Rebel Scum

        She’ll need a blanket after that.

      • CPRM

        How! Much Wompum.

    • Shirley Knott

      Aww. She was supposed to hold a ‘town hall meeting’ in Lansing tomorrow.
      I’d have liked to ask her why we should place any confidence in the rest of her plans when her plan tob capture the presidency failed so badly.
      Not that I could have been dragged to the meeting, but it does seem like a question that should hound the rest of her life.

  39. Chipwooder

    If there’s one thing Dems know how to do, it’s fall in line when the Party tells them the way things are going to be.

    • straffinrun

      Maybe just me, but I’d love to see Biden and Joe run on the same ticket. It’d be fun regardless of who was on top.

      • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

        . . . Biden and Joe . . .

        Wut?

      • straffinrun

        It’s late. Biden and Bernie. Biden and Joe would be equally fun.

      • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

        “Biden and Joe” would probably work if he developed full-on dementia in the next few months. It’d be totes awesome if he started arguing with himself on U.S. national television. Even more awesome if he did it during a debate with The Donald. Imagine the bemused look on Trump’s face when he couldn’t get a word in edgewise for two hours.

      • CPRM

        regardless of who was on top.

        Since when are we a gay porn site?

      • Rebel Scum

        It’d be fun regardless of who was on top.

        That’s what SHE said.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    Reputation besmirched

    Supreme Court Justice John Roberts’ rebuke of Chuck Schumer over remarks he made at an abortion rights rally risked hurting “the notion of judicial independence” and “public faith” in America’s top court, two senior lawyers have said.

    The Obama-era U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Alabama, Joyce Vance said Chief Justice Roberts’ comments released in a Wednesday statement risked damaging public faith in the Supreme Court’s neutrality.

    Gibson Dunn Partner Ted Boutrous added that Roberts should have “repudiated” President Donald Trump’s attacks on Supreme Court Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Ruth Ginsburg last week, suggesting his failure to do so while blasting Schumer brought the court’s impartiality into question.

    ——-

    Reacting to the Supreme Court Justice’s letter, Joyce Vance tweeted: “Whether you think Schumer’s comments were warranted or not, for Chief Justice Roberts to reprimand him, after permitting so much from Trump to go unacknowledged, will damage public faith in the neutrality of the Court he leads. This feels like a misstep.”

    Ted Boutrous, who has reportedly represented journalists in legal disputes over White House access, agreed with his fellow lawyer.

    “The Chief Justice surely should have repudiated Trump’s wholly unwarranted and improper attacks last week on Justices Ginsburg and Sotomayor,” he wrote on Twitter.

    “To respond to Schumer but not Trump (an egregious recidivist) hurts the notion of judicial independence.”

    “Everywhere I look, I see exactly what I was looking for.”

    President Cartoon Villain is an asshole. Schumer is a noble selfless servant of the public weal, protecting teh reproduction (or premature termination thereof).

  41. The Late P Brooks

    Am I the only person getting tired of all the pantsoiling over Coronavirus?

    Definitely not. How many people worldwide have died of treatable communicable illnesses in the last couple of months?

    If you get run over by a garbage truck while wandering around in traffic reading about coronapanic on your phone, is that a kill for the deadly bug?

    • PieInTheSky

      Nassim Taleb would call you an idiot right now. Precautionary principle!

    • Rhywun

      If you get run over by a garbage truck while wandering around in traffic reading about coronapanic on your phone, is that a kill for the deadly bug?

      Not if you had a cigarette or alcoholic beverage in your hand.

  42. Mojeaux

    Am I the only one who absolutely despises Purell etc? It feels slimy and then dries and still feels weird. I can’t stand it. Give me a packet of Clorox wipes, if I were that much of a germophobe, but I am not. I’m okay with soap and water.

    • PieInTheSky

      I have no idea what those are

      • UnCivilServant

        Don’t worry, I’m sure the EU will approve soap and water at some point.

      • PieInTheSky

        we cannot all live in a 0 bureaucracy paradise with no regulations or licensing like the good old Us of A

    • SugarFree

      I also think it’s gross. I hate anything on my hands: lotion, sunscreen, institutional soap, Purell, all of it. I just wash my hands more during cold and flu season.

      • banginglc1

        I still just use regular bar soap, even just for hand washing. It’s cheap, It doesn’t smell funny, and it’s not that hard to use.

      • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

        ^^Same. I use Dove bar soap because it doesn’t dry my hands out like so many of the liquid soaps or other bars.

      • Chipwooder

        I hate anything on my hands

        Preach!

      • leon

        Not even Gloves?

        UCS has a sad…

    • CPRM

      Rub some dirt on it it Nancy! CPRM, BFA

    • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

      I don’t like Purell either, or any of the alcohol-based disinfectant gels. ’Course, I also don’t like aloe vera gel.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      I keep a bottle of Purell in my car for use after pumping gas or if I am eating food in my car (germaphobe? maybe a little).

      But yeah, as soon as I can wash my hands I do because of the smell and the way it feels.

    • Tundra

      I use it when I travel. Always. Airports, airplanes, bathrooms, hotel tv remotes. Fucking gross.

      Day to day I rarely use it.

    • cyto

      Soap and water is actually much more effective than hand sanitizer. So reality confirms your bias.

    • Nephilium

      Nope. I’m right there with you. I also dislike bug spray and sunscreen (but I’ve learned the latter is a necessary evil for long rides).

    • Pat

      I use hand sanitizer when I’m out and about but always wash thoroughly when I get back home because of the weird residue it leaves behind.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    At the end of that Newsweak story:

    President Trump posted his comments on Schumer a little more than a week after he called for Supreme Court Justices Sotomayor and Ginsburg to be recused from any cases involving him or his administration.

    Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s qualitatively different from “We will make you PAY!” Those two have made public statements which clearly exhibit prejudice against Trump.

    As far as that goes, should the Justices who are plainly predisposed to rule in favor of abortion recuse themselves? What would Moobsie say about that?

    • Rebel Scum

      If I recall correctly, Infamous RBG has, in recent years, stated things about Trump that demonstrate a bias against him.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    Maybe just me, but I’d love to see Biden and Joe run on the same ticket.

    Sounds like a Minstrel Show act. That guy who looks in one direction and asks a question, then turns his head and answers himself.

    “What about Russia, Joe?”

    “I don’t know, Joe. What ABOUT Russia?”

  45. invisible finger

    How come we’re not hearing about coronavirus in filthy shitholes like Bangladesh, Venezuela, or Camden?

    • leon

      Venezuela is safe because no one is actually coming into the country.

    • cyto

      Because nobody wants to travel there?

      Alternate quip:

      Well, we are hearing about Italy every day….

      • Rhywun

        Well, we are hearing about Italy every day….

        It’s weird. I understand the Iran “cluster” is due to some sort of religious pilgrimage but I haven’t heard any plausible explanation for Italy.

      • cyto

        I’ve heard Italian dudes described as “handsy”…..

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Smelly. Hairy. Greasy.

        We got it all!

      • cyto

        Serious response:

        Likely just a founder effect. Some dude came back from China right after the first cases and got it started in Italy before anywhere else. I doubt this is going to be associated with a society being particularly dirty or anything. It spreads pretty much exactly like the flu, so expect the same pattern… waves of infection swirling around the globe. The real problem comes when you don’t have a healthcare system that can handle thousands of extra patients.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        haven’t heard any plausible explanation for Italy.

        China: Our hyper-efficient government was able to use it’s iron hand to restrict the mobility of our citizens.

        Itally: Hyper-efficient government? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

    • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

      ‘Cause COVID-19’s getting bitch-slapped by all the real viruses they have in those places.

  46. ChipsnSalsa

    Breaking news!

    Warren is out.

    • cyto

      Bernie Bros got to her!

      • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

        Did drugs fall out of her ass?

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      This is what passes as journalism today:

      Her plan to withdraw, first reported by The New York Times, leaves what was once a historically diverse Democratic field essentially narrowed to two white men in their 70s. Sanders is 78 and Biden is 77.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Democratic voters seem pretty racists and sexist.

      • banginglc1

        She’s just too low on the totem pole.

      • KSuellington

        Tulsi has another sad.

      • Rhywun

        “Legacy of slavery” in 3… 2… 1….

  47. The Late P Brooks

    Nassim Taleb would call you an idiot right now.

    Tell him he’ll have to take a number and wait his turn.

    • PieInTheSky

      Why I bet your the kind of guy who does not even consider Lebanese to be Phoenicians

    • R C Dean

      Anyone who cites the self-refuting precautionary principle is self-identifying as an idiot, in my book.

      • PieInTheSky

        self-refuting precautionary principle?

      • Jarflax

        It is risky to massively alter course in any significant way and the risk includes possible dire consequences. therefore applying the precautionary principle is contra indicated by the precautionary principle.

      • PieInTheSky

        I am not sure that is what the principle says…

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        I’m not sure I should readjust the heuristics I’ve been using that have provided me with a good life so far. Ergo, I will not take the radical step of scrapping all my decision making processes and replace it with a new decision making process (that happens to be entitled the precautionary principal).

        See how easy that works?!?

      • R C Dean

        There are many versions of it, but it basically comes down to “No action should be taken unless and until it is proven that the action will not have a detrimental effect.” Critically, it is not stated as a cost-benefit analysis, but more as a requirement that nothing be done until it is proven it has no downsides. You see it most often in the environmental area. Application of the precautionary principle in the Neolithic Era would have prevented us from doing things like creating metal tools or agriculture.

        It is self-refuting because you cannot apply the precautionary principle until you first prove that doing so will not have a detrimental effect. Since most things that matter have both an upside and a downside, the precautionary principle prohibits applying the precautionary principle whenever doing so will block something that has any benefits at all.

      • cyto

        Yup.

        The only place to apply such a train of thought would be in areas that have potentially massive downsides… Things like creating a retro-viral vector to carry immunity to HIV to the entire population come to mind. Releasing something like that to the wild could potentially be extremely destructive, so you’d want to have your ducks in a row.

      • Fourscore

        Like standing up in a small boat with an expensive camera in your hand, particularly after having been advised of the serious negative consequences that could arise.

      • PieInTheSky

        “No action should be taken unless and until it is proven that the action will not have a detrimental effect.” – I think it is not any action, but actions that can have far ranging consequences…

        To apply it to a taleb pet peeve like GMO you cannot be sure of safety so no GMO. The alternative is you cannot be sure of what happens to humans if GMOs are no tried I suppose… But it is unlikely for humanity to face catastrophe without GMOs as it went without em for millennia. GMOs not meaning off course how humans altered plants and animals for those millennia

      • cyto

        Until you see what GMO are capable of. They are working on putting the grass electron transport system for photosynthesis into crop plants. Combining C3, C4 and CAM photosynthesis into 1 plant is postulated to increase yields by 30%. Think of that! getting 1/3 more food on the same amount of land. That’s before doing any other monkeying around.

      • PieInTheSky

        well human survived without em and who knows what happens with them is the idea. Yeah they may reduce famine, but famine is irrelevant when it comes to survival of the species.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Pie – human have survived with out a world-government powerful enough to prevent people from developing and planting GMO’s, Wouldn’t want to implement something like that until we can provide that it won’t have any downsides, would we?

      • PieInTheSky

        well when tech did not allow GMOs there was no need

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        So is your argument that we will need to implement a massive societal overhaul to prevent a massive societal overhaul because of the potential downside risks of massive societal overhalls?

      • PieInTheSky

        that is not my argument. I am against the principle for various reasons, mostly because it is stupid. But I am not sure self refuting is the correct term

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        We are attempting to demonstrate why it is self refuting.

        I actually think that the weak version of it (don’t use simple cost/benefit or expected value when existential risk is involved) is totally justified. But the strong version of it is a logically self-refuting proposition.

      • cyto

        “humans” survived without GMOs. And vaccines. And antibiotics.

        But 7 billion humans didn’t.

      • PieInTheSky

        you win some, you loose a few billion

      • R C Dean

        I think it is not any action, but actions that can have far ranging consequences

        There are many versions, but my recollection is that it is not so limited.

        But it is unlikely for humanity to face catastrophe without GMOs as it went without em for millennia.

        GMOs deliver enormous benefits to humanity. Applying the precautionary principle to block or ban them would have quite the downside, therefor the precautionary principle should not be applied to them.

        There is often a hidden “status quo” bias in the precautionary principle, it is true. That begs the question of whether the status quo is an entirely static society, or a dynamic one that is constantly generating new things.

      • PieInTheSky

        GMOs deliver enormous benefits to humanity – irrelevant

      • leon

        To apply it to a taleb pet peeve like GMO you cannot be sure of safety so no GMO. The alternative is you cannot be sure of what happens to humans if GMOs are no tried I suppose…

        I haven’t read Taleb, but if this is what he was saying, then no action can be ever taken. Because you can never prove it couldn’t be catastrophic.

      • cyto

        I think that is kinda the point. The Precautionary Principle is pointless navel gazing – and if applied to itself argues against using the Precautionary Principle…. which is only more navel gazing.

        In other words…. turtles, all the way down.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Right, he’s advocating that you change from (e.g.,) an expected value heuristic to *another heuristic*. But making that change would be a violation of the heuristic he wants you to adopt.

  48. The Late P Brooks

    I still just use regular bar soap, even just for hand washing. It’s cheap, It doesn’t smell funny, and it’s not that hard to use.

    Lava, FTW!

    Liquid dish soap for oily greasy paws.

  49. wdalasio

    I consider myself moderately pro-choice, but count me a pass on that one, as well.

    • R C Dean

      Rashida Tlaib Rallies Abortion Activists: They ‘Shouldn’t Even Want To Have Sex With Me!’

      I think we can call this one “Mission Accomplished”.

  50. Rebel Scum

    What?

    The Hill✔
    @thehill

    Sen. Bernie Sanders: “We’re taking on Wall Street and I know they were getting very nervous, and the stock market went up this morning because they thought that Biden did well.”

    • leon

      I’m in the opinion that much of the Wall Street sell off was associated with Bernie doing well..

      • Drake

        If they thought he had a chance of being elected, it would tank like nothing since 1929, maybe worse.

      • Urthona

        I shared that opinion here from the economist (I think AIER writer?) who claimed that Bernie’s popularity was more likely the culprit than coronavirus, and everyone shit on it.

        But I still think it was a factor.

      • grrizzly

        Well, today the markets are strongly down despite Biden continuing being the prohibitive favorite for the second trading day. Meanwhile, the coronavirus disruption has been intensifying.

    • Rhywun

      We’re taking on Wall Street

      He says that a lot. I wonder what it is supposed to mean.

      • Rebel Scum

        He hates your 401K.

      • SugarFree

        He wants to nationalize your 401k, replace it with a bunch of bonds and worthless IOUs.

      • leon

        Why should some people who save get to have more money than those who didn’t save? This is not fair comrade.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        He hates wants your 401K

        FTFY

    • banginglc1

      Shorter Sanders: I want you to lose any money that I can’t just outright steal from you!

  51. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    Fuckkkkkkkkkkkk

    Plumbing woes from last night went from bad to worse. Plumber was in and out in 10 minutes with a list of shit I need to do before he can even start work. Is it April yet?

    • banginglc1

      And that’s why the last guy just covered it all up.

      If you could just ditch all that honor and integrity you’d be all set.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        It’s just a temporary financial hit as the house will more than recoup the costs, but this lemon is rather reluctant to being turned into lemonade.

      • banginglc1

        Related. . . .my family moved when I was about 13. Dad always said we had to move because he was the one who fixed everything in the house.

    • leon

      I missed that man. Sorry to hear. Plumbing, electrical suck to deal with.

    • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

      Sorry, Trashy.

      You’re running into the same problem the spousal unit and I have — try as we might to get ourselves into that head-space, we can’t just cover up and walk away from issues with our residence when we’re getting ready to sell (though as I’ve gotten older, I am trying to figure out cheaper ways of addressing the problems).

  52. The Late P Brooks

    Plumber was in and out in 10 minutes with a list of shit I need to do before he can even start work.

    Eek.

  53. The Late P Brooks

    He hates covets your 401K.

  54. Trolleric the Goth

    Late question, but I’ll ask it anyway:

    best Johnny Dollar actor?

    The safe choice is Bob Bailey of course, but I really enjoyed the rough and tumble way Edmund O’Brien played the role as well. Surely not as introspective, but maybe I’m not looking for introspection somtimes? If I want that, I’ll listen to Philip Marlowe.
    I wish there were more of the 5 part serial format though, they spoil you with actual character development.

    • whiz

      Very late answer: I, too, like Edmund O’Brien as much as Bob Bailey.