Thursday Morning Links

by | Mar 12, 2020 | Daily Links | 444 comments

It’ll look like this until the fall now.

Pie (and a few other people, I guess) hardest hit. Liverpool shit the bed and got bounced from the UCL. OSU and a school in a neighboring state have cancelled their spring football games. Most college basketball is being played in empty arenas, which sucks because now crowd noise can’t even partially drown out Dick Vitale’s screeching. And your hockey winners last night were Chicago, Winnipeg, St Louis, Colorado and LA.

O-Tay!

Beat writer Jack Kerouac was born on this day, man. He shares it with playwright Edward Albee, Buckwheat actor William “Billie” Thomas, open-wheel racer Johny Rutherford, singer Al Jarreau, war criminal Ratko Mladić, mobster and rat Sammy “The Bull” Gravano, sometimes fat/sometimes skinny actress Liza Minelli, Senator-of-conscious (HA!) Mittens Romney, Florida novelist Carl Hiaasen, actor Courtney Vance, cocaine enthusiast and baseball player Darryl Strawberry, and journalisming expert Jake Tapper.

That list sucks as bad as the Wuhan virus. So let’s just move on to…the links!

Take a bath, you disgusting piece of shit.

I’m so sick of bad news, so I want to start this morning off for you with some good news.

And some more good news! I sure hope those pains stop soon.

I wonder how this will be called racist by the left. And as I was wondering this, I’m sure a media talking head or member of congress named Ilhan Omar was tweeting exactly that.  I mean, they’ve been doing so ever since last night.

And second level effects keep piling up. So those of you who were hoping to have one last session of buying low, I think you’ll get your wish and then some.

Letting the free market step in is out of the question, I suppose. Yeah, we can’t have that, can we?  Better to have the government deliver a substandard product and saddle the taxpayers with busted pension systems, I guess.

Illinois government fucking shit up, as usual. If this is a surprise, seek out a mental health care professional immediately.

Awwwwwww, poor baby. Grow up and be adults, you pampered fucks.

Don’t care.

I won’t be on pins and needles worrying about this. Now pardon Edward Snowden, for fuck’s sake. (Because there’s miles of differences between these to cases: one was a whistleblower, one was indiscriminately dumping classified info to no real purpose.)

This is pretty cool. Which is something we need after all the shitty news I am compelled to link to every day, it seems.

Here’s a great song. And so is this. But this is probably the best of the three. Anyway, you guys deserve all three after this set of links.

Now get out there and survive, friends.

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444 Comments

  1. WTF

    Avenatti – the guy who was going to take down TRUMP!!11!!!!

    • WTF

      Oh, hey – FIRST!

      • Festus

        “No gif for you!”

      • WTF

        *sulks*

      • Festus

        Now I go to the box and feel shame.

      • Gadfly

        Don’t go to the box, get back to the routine.

        “Throw out your hands, stick out your tush, hands on your hips, give them a push…”

  2. WTF

    What the hell, did Wuhan Flu get everyone? Where are you?

    • Trigger Hippie

      I’ve been very antisocial this week and haven’t really felt like talking much. Sorry, man. 😉

    • Festus

      Eating leftover-leftovers on the previous thread. Time change is a bitch, yo…

    • Nephilium

      I was killed by Net Neutrality, killed again by Brexit, literally killed by Trump, murdered by the roaming Nazi parties on the streets, and now I’m dead from Kung Flu.

      • MikeS

        My condolences for your losses.

    • Ted S.

      I’m here. Just working.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’ve been coordinating our business adjustments to the Kung Flu.

      We’re establishing fallback positions so that we don’t get completely shut down in the event of an employee testing positive.

  3. robc

    I thought of you In ET yesterday. You can even see my post on the afternoon links. I posted at 116 on the clock, before the last goal, but was worried I was jinxing AM.

    • sloopyinca

      They should go straight to penalties. Or abandon the away goals once they’ve reached full time in the second leg. I don’t think it’s right for one team to get an extra 30 minutes of time to score an away goal.

      Also. Why is Allison not playing? This is the third game in a row where Adrian made at least one catastrophic error.

      • robc

        Joke yesterday was that Klopp would be whining about lack of golden goal. Your whining is even worse.

        Last host gets an extra 30 minutes to score a home-field advantage goal. Which you did. Then you gave up THREE road goals.

      • sloopyinca

        Oh I’m speaking in general about that away goal rule. Liverpool lost the tie because Adrian is not nearly as good under pressure as Allison. Klopp knows this, which is why I wondered why Adrian was in.
        Fair play to Athletico. They defend better than just about anybody in the world. They fully deserved their victory.

      • robc

        Injury is my understanding.

        In general, the away goal rule is balanced by the last host getting the Extra Time played at home.

      • Rhywun

        Yes, he is injured. Clearly he would be in goal otherwise.

      • ttyrant

        From what I saw, that’s the best LFC played in months. I didn’t think Atletico were that great yesterday – they started well but LFC created quite a few chances. Atletico were very good in the first leg, and the two Llorente goals were class finishes. Tip your cap and go win the league before they cancel the remainder of the season.

      • Ted S.

        Liverpool also had the advantage of knowing what they needed to do at home.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        He was whining about AM not playing “proper football.”

  4. robc

    Dead threaded it, but avergage event-driven bear market is down 29%, recovers to previous level in 15 months.

    Great dollar cost averaging time for consistent buyers.

    • AlmightyJB

      Looking for S&P at 2400.

      • Nephilium

        I’m thinking of doing some sales after I get home to move money between funds to lock in some losses.

      • robc

        You needing that 3k tax writeoff for a few years?

      • Nephilium

        More that it gives me a chance to do some rebalancing, while getting some losses locked in to offset any gains I may have to get over the next couple of years.

    • ChipsnSalsa

      First time getting into stock market (besides Roth / 401K) put 2k into an ETF.

      Exciting times.

  5. Tonio

    “media TASING head?”

    You’ve stopped making sense, Sloopy.

    • sloopyinca

      I did that a long time ago. But I did fix that typo.

      • R C Dean

        “they’ve been ding ever since last night”

        One more, big fella. You can do it.

      • sloopyinca

        ::sigh::

        Fixed that too. Anything else, you guys?

    • Chipwooder

      I’ve got a girlfriend that’s better than that

  6. Animal

    Re: Dinosaurs. Just the other day I got to trot out one of my favorite lines, when someone said something about dinosaurs being gone. Namely: “Dinosaurs aren’t extinct. There are more species of dinosaur alive today than there are mammals. We call them birds.”

    • WTF

      Yup, they’re all over the place. Only the giant ones are gone.

    • robc

      Cladistics for the win!

    • Tejicano

      Well, if they tasted as good as sandhill crane does I expect we ate them all. Even if a bunch of the larger ones survived the meteor strike which supposedly wiped most of them out they still were lethargic until the sum warmed them up enough.

      • Animal

        Actually, they were almost certainly warm-blooded.

      • Tejicano

        Now that you mention it, I should have known that.

        I blame beer!

      • Nephilium

        You take that back! What has beer ever done to you!

      • Tejicano

        ***remembers waking up in somebody else’s bed, then starting to gnaw on my own shoulder…***

        …goes and pours a bourbon.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Beer , the cause of , and the solution to, all the worlds problems.

      • Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

        IIRC there are some like Dimetrodon that were cold blooded, but they weren’t actually dinosaurs, just called so colloquially.

  7. Tundra

    Hiya Sloopy!

    A ska Thursday is a good Thursday. If that doesn’t get the blood going, nothing will.

    The lynx? Well, everything sucks and we’re all gonna die.

    But not today.

    So get out there and enjoy yourself!

  8. PieInTheSky

    Pie (and a few other people, I guess) hardest hit.

    Frequent joke of the day is Gobert shut down the league, clearly DPOY

    • Bill Door

      It’s a three-peat, then?

      Dude is SICK!

  9. Festus

    Fun fact – when I played baseball and goinked a play my teammates used to chant this charming little ditty – https://youtu.be/DOFn8dWc1_g

    • robc

      Great episode.

      For some reason, Ozzie falling down a bottomless pit makes me laugh every time.

      • Festus

        It was a meme before the great internet of things. Like remarking on someone making copies in the office. Broadcast TV used to have a gigantic reach.

  10. PieInTheSky

    I wonder how this will be called racist by the left. And as I was wondering this, I’m sure a media tasing head or member of congress named Ilhan Omar was tweeting exactly that. I mean, they’ve been ding ever since last night.

    Apparently Romania not yet affected, although my coworker is not sure if he still wants to go to the US early April.

  11. PieInTheSky

    I decided not to go to the gym no more which sucks, just as my shoulder had been feeling better last couple of weeks…

    • Festus

      Right or left? You can always work out at home, Vlad.

    • Tejicano

      Like most of us, you don’t hang enough. To reset your shoulder you need to hang from a pull-up bar or any similar bar/surface to stretch your shoulder muscles/ tendons for about a minute a day. It doesn’t have to be one full minute at once – do it as much as you can throughout the day for a total of one minute. Do that every day for a week or two and see how it feels.

      • Just a thought not a sermon

        Please explain further. I rarely miss workouts, but when I do it’s almost always because of shoulder soreness/pain. Are pull-ups doing my regular upper-body workout not enough? And by hanging, do you mean just hanging, not doing anything? Keep muscles tensed, or simply hang freely?

      • Tundra

        Just hang. It works wonders.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        hanging is the new planking

        also…

        hanging, the most racist of all workout moves.

      • Tundra

        Some years ago I had a really bad shoulder – to the point of not being able to reach up and get something out of the fridge. Hanging every day, as well as some ROM exercises, completely fixed it.

      • PieInTheSky

        I don’t think this helps with shoulder impingement or supraspinatus tendon lesions.

      • Tejicano

        Joe Rogan said it works with impingement specifically.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Interesting

  12. R C Dean

    “Jingmai O’Connor”

    Love the name.

  13. leon

    Trump gives primetime address: Now Queue the jerkoffs at DU who were bitching about no leader, to start bitching about all the lies in the address.

    • Rhywun

      I’m not going there to find out.

      • AlexinCT

        Thou areth wise.

  14. PieInTheSky

    Seems the crypto market is also crashing hard

    • Nephilium

      Everything seems to be crashing in panic.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      To be expected. There’s no intrinsic value there.

      And people are raising cash to meet margin calls.

  15. leon

    I feel for Manning, because she’s only rotting in jail because of her refusal to comply in the investigation of Julian Assange.

    • MikeS

      Well, that and the fact that she’s there in the first place because she threw a temper-tantrum that included leaking secret info.

      • kbolino

        The original sentence was commuted by Obama and Manning was already released. This is a different sentence for a different crime (although the government may have the same underlying motivation).

  16. Rebel Scum

    *coughs*

    I caught the black lung Wuflu, Pa.

    Jk. I still don’t know why we are supposed to be freaking out about something that is in the same family as the cold/flu.

    • leon

      *Queues up same argument that has been hashed in these comments, every day for the last 3 weeks*

      • Ted S.

        So you’re saying drugs are falling out of Rebel Scum’s ass?

    • WTF

      How else are we supposed to destroy the economy to hurt Trump’s reelection chances?!

      • Festus

        ^^^ Gold Star for WTF!

      • Festus

        Do those dudes have about a thousand songs? Are about five of them listenable? Am i Judge Napitilano?

      • B.P.

        Eh, they’re a solid band, just a little too over-prolific.

      • Slammer

        I’ll always love their catchy as fuck rockers, but now I really appreciate Bob’s lo-fi weird shit he does. When you’re in the mood for GBV there’s no one better

      • AlmightyJB

        Now that they know Bernie is out, it’s time to get their cheap whore in.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      I’ve heard so much conflicting data that I dont know what to think. Thus, I’ll work from home (because I would anyway), and take the sick kiddo in for a strep test (because strep is the horse and Coronavirus is the zebra)

      We’re prepared for living off of reserves for a couple weeks, but that’s just standard operating procedure.

      • Rebel Scum

        I have the fridge/freezer and a chest freezer fairly full of stuff, plus probably a weeks worth of stuff in the pantry, and I always have bottled water on hand. Food is not a concern so long as we do not lose power. Booze on the other hand…I need to build a reserve.

      • Atanarjuat

        Every time I tried to start a booze reserve, it ended up flowing into my gaping maw faster than it could accumulate in the pantry. Maybe just order some simple cider making supplies.

      • Nephilium

        I’ve got a large enough stock of beer, wine, and booze to make it through almost any disaster. Plus the equipment to make at least two of those items (which as a bonus can be used to make and store potable water).

      • Swiss Servator

        I may have stopped by the store last night and added to the Strategic Buffalo Trace reserve at home…

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I can’t get Buffalo Trace around here. ABC randomly gets shipments in on Fridays, and then they sell out the same day. Can’t plan ahead because ABC doesn’t know what they’re getting until it comes off the delivery truck. And then they limit it to one bottle per customer.

        When I’m lucky enough to find a delivery day, I go to a bunch of stores in the area with my wife so we can buy 2 at each store and build up the reserve. One clerk was nice enough to run up 6 bottles as 6 separate transactions to get around the register block.

        Fuck government-run liquor monopolies.

      • robc

        I am not someone who hunts for the rare beer/bourbon releases, because it is such a pain, and I don’t want to wait in lines or have relationships with liquor stores or things like that.

        What do people think about releases like these being sold via Dutch auction?

      • Nephilium

        Ohio has been doing a couple different things for the rare bottles. For the very rare bottles, they run a lottery (one entry per person, no cost) where you can win the opportunity to purchase a specific bottle. For the run of the mill rare releases, they announce the locations throughout the state, the quantity that will be released at each, and the price. The day of the week and time usually change, as well as which liquor stores get the releases. I’ve gone to one (mainly because it gave me an excuse to go across town to meet up with my sister and her family for breakfast), it wasn’t too crowded, and there was more bottles released then people who showed up.

      • Festus

        We’re set except for water supply. We have months of food in the pantry and I can fix that water problem with one neat trick. No firepower, though.

  17. Rebel Scum

    Michael Avenatti was stuck in ‘rat-infested’ Manhattan jail cell

    Of course, he was the rat in the cell.

    • WTF

      Despite all his rage…

    • Festus

      King Rat -https://youtu.be/XhB552sXQGw

      • Tundra
      • egould310

        I’ve got to listen to them more. Maybe spend some time this weekend?

        Return of the Rat https://youtu.be/p1MD1UjStLg

      • Tundra

        I recommend starting with Hang Time. Great album to this day.

      • Slammer
      • Not Adahn

        Bunch of racists, the lot o’ ye!

  18. AlmightyJB

    Just checked my Quarantine inventory:
    Liquor- check
    Beer – check
    Bacon – check
    Cowbell – need more

  19. Fourscore

    Prince Harry will really be sad when he leaves the divorce court one day.

    But on a happier note Ilham is a smiling bride today.

    • Atanarjuat

      I haven’t been following closely. Does that mean she divorced her brusband?

      • Fourscore

        Apparently what happens in MN stays in MN but yeah.

    • Evan from Evansville

      This might not be the most popular opinion, but anyone who doesn’t think so is flat the fuck out wrong.

      Ilhan Omar is unbelievably hot. Stunningly. I want to do so many filthy things to her. She is a complete monster of a human being and that is also unquestionable. But here are the options that I see:

      A. I want to put her body into someone who isn’t a writer’s depiction of pure evil.
      B. Fuck her so tremendously well (just take a look at my sexual resume!) that she transforms into someone who can actually think and uses such transition to shift into a good human.
      C. Use magic to make my desire truth.
      D. Lots of ‘batin’.

      These things all of one thing in common: I want to fuck her while she wears her headgear. Or fantasize, whatever.

      She belongs in prison.

  20. Just a thought not a sermon

    I’m not going to dignify this one with a number, but my thought for today is that it is very nice when the executive assistant-type lady you’ve been dealing with over email, with whom you’ve developed a humorous semi-flirtations rapport, turns out not to be the older lady you thought she was, but a quite attractive young redhead.

    • I. B. McGinty

      What? No pic?

      • Swiss Servator

        ^Speaks for almost all of us^

    • Festus

      Oh My….

  21. Atanarjuat

    OSU and a school in a neighboring state have cancelled their spring football games. Most college basketball is being played in empty arenas

    I’m working a trade used in the entertainment and trade show industries. Well, I used to be. Every upcoming corporate show and touring musical act has cancelled. I really can’t blame them. No one wants to be in the news for being the event that spread a disease that ultimately killed Grandma. I worked on a Andre Rieu show last night. The touring crew was mostly Dutch. It was the first stop on the tour and everything subsequent has been cancelled. They told me if they can’t fly back to Europe because of the restrictions, they’ll hop on the tour bus and see the sights in America.

    • Fourscore

      My wife is so concerned over the CV she pinned a wash cloth over my face when I’m Glibbing. She said “You don’t know what some of the guys might have and I’m not taking any chances”

      • Just a thought not a sermon

        Not just for CV. You really should’ve been doing that all along. Fortunately, SF comes along periodically and blasts the whole thing with the cleansing fire of his fiction.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        That “cleansing fire” is really just the used diet Dr Pepper cherry from Hillary’s regeneration tank. It burns because it’s highly acidic.

      • Festus

        That’s some wise counsel, there. Better that you cover your eyes, especially if HM is about.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        She’s not wrong.

      • wchipperdove

        We’re more of an STD crowd.

      • Festus

        wchipperdove and Winston’s Mom singularity confirmed. Darling!

  22. Rebel Scum

    I wonder how this will be called racist by the left.

    He is clearly trying to prevent all the rapefuges migrants from Africa and the ME that have entered Europe from getting to the US.

  23. leon

    Was just perusing a TOS article.

    Hihn really is deranged.

    • leon

      Like Bidenesque

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’ve never seen them in the same room together…

      • Slammer

        We’ll know for sure when Joe yells, “BULLY” during a debate

      • WTF

        (giggles)

      • Festus

        Maybe Hihn is Biden. You skallywags couldn’t pop a a kernel of corn if you loaded it in a 12-gauge! I have my own web where I talk to the people direct, Jack! Don’t bullshit me about that nonsense, I can take you to the cleaners and be home for Chinky food by half past Friday! BULLY!

      • Not Adahn

        *applause*

    • Tejicano

      As if I didn’t have enough reasons to continue avoiding that site. I can’t remember what calendar year I last clicked on that.

  24. Rebel Scum

    Smallest dinosaur found trapped in 100-million-year-old amber

    We all know how this ends.

    • Slammer

      What are they gonna call the little dinosaur, Ruth Bader Ginsburgaceratops or something

    • wchipperdove

      Hold on, we have to get past reenacting the recent Planet of the Apes movies (which started with a worldwide virus) before we get to Jurassic Park.

  25. Slammer

    The only way to defeat and destroy coronavirus is to dig up it’s old tweets

    • Festus

      Bee – worthy.

  26. Drake

    Remember the good old days a few months ago – when an NBA coach got in trouble for supporting the Hong Kong protestors? And the league couldn’t kiss commie Chinese ass hard enough to keep from losing a few yen?

    Now the NBA has lost their season thanks to the same commies they sucked up to.

    • Slammer

      The NBA and the kungflu share something in common…no defense

      • Festus

        No defense and no rules.

      • UnCivilServant

        Hey, Wuhan Virus has rules. We just don’t know all of them yet.

    • Sean

      Schadenfreude. I enjoy it.

  27. Atanarjuat

    The Boston Globe reported last summer that the MBTA had the second-highest number of derailments, 43, of any metro transit system in the country from 2014 to 2018, according to federal records (which did not include two incidents in 2019, including the Red Line derailment that impaired service for several months).

    Part of my evolution into libertarianism was finding a primitive website made by an anarchist named (something) Thornton whose catchphrase was “In government, nothing succeeds like failure.”, because screwups already result in increased funding. I’d love to see a comparison of derailments per mile traveled and dollar spent with some private sector trains.

    • Atanarjuat

      *always, not already

  28. wchipperdove

    “I can do all things through caffeine which strengtheneth me.”

    Me 4 :13

  29. Rufus the Monocled

    I was just called a sexist for daring to say men’s soccer is better than women’s soccer in a discussion about the ‘pay gap.’

    • Slammer

      Women’s dive-grass wouldn’t be as bad if they played on a field like half the size of the men’s field

    • Festus

      Did you narrow your gaze or merely throw your muppet hands in the air and just leave the room?

    • wchipperdove

      “All soccer is women’s soccer.”

      – Ron Swanson

      • Festus

        ^ This is the correct answer.

    • WTF

      Did you point out that the world cup champion Women’s National Team regularly loses to High School boys teams?

    • Fourscore

      “Kids say the darndest things”

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      a discussion about the ‘pay gap.’

      “Sorry, I must excuse myself… Why?… Because driving hot pokers through my eyes would be a more productive use of my time”

    • robc

      Women’s soccer looks like good boys HS soccer. Which based on actual games played, is pretty accurate.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      The US soccer pay gap talk is exhausting. You negotiated a poor contract separate from the men’s team, fine let’s redo it. Same % for gate receipts, same % for TV ratings (no, not that hard to separate), etc., all of that can be the same.

      But yeah, there is still going to be gap when the women win their WC against teams that are no better than a men’s rec league and the US men maybe get to the final 16 (lol).

      • UnCivilServant

        The women’s players don’t want the pay cut from equality by % of revenues.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        What do they want?

      • UnCivilServant

        From what I hear – to be paid the same $ amount as the men despite not bringing in the same revenue or viewership. ie, to be paid more per unit results.

      • Nephilium

        More money! Less work!

    • Florida Man

      I took two girls to a woman’s soccer game once and they lamented it’s so unfair women get paid less. I said the only reason you two girls are here is because I paid. If women really cared, they Would come out and support the team. They grudgingly had to admit I was right.

      • invisible finger

        You could make the point that female porn actors make more money than male porn actors.

      • AlexinCT

        They probably were mad at you for daring to point out the real ask from these types is that people be forced to pay them more regardless of if those forced to pay more can do so because of lack of interest.

  30. Atanarjuat

    So as mentioned yesterday was my last day of work, likely for months. Thanks panic-inciting morons in the corporate press.

    I was kind of planning on having a solid income (this time of year is the busy season and we normally get lots of overtime) and have slightly overextended myself, but not bad. Well, that’s neither here nor there. I’ve never applied for unemployment before, is that a NAP violation?

    • Slammer

      I don’t think so, you’re getting some of the money back that was stolen from you in the first place

      • The Hyperbole

        Except that money is long gone and your just getting money that’s being stolen from someone else.

      • sloopyinca

        No. The government took it from him. He’s taking it back from the government. Their theft from someone else is a different involuntary transaction.

      • sloopyinca

        Also, you’re.

      • The Hyperbole

        Look fat, I didn’t point out your typos, that was a couple other assholes.

      • leon

        You’re a lyin’ horse faced pony goat. I otta step outsdied and slap your face.

      • sloopyinca

        Well-played.

      • The Hyperbole

        Yeah, I know you guys are right. The older I get the more I’m convinced everything is a big scam anyway and kick myself for ‘playing by the rules’ Take what you can, when you can, all you can.

      • sloopyinca

        It’s not “taking”. It’s “taking back what was stolen”.
        If you were robbed of $10k by a thief and he was caught a year later and ordered to make restitution, would you be ok with not receiving it should someone say “yeah, but he already spent what he stole from you. That money you’re getting was stolen from someone else a few months later.”?

      • sloopyinca

        Also, if you receive UI, you are playing by the rules. You’re not a saint for not taking back what was stolen from you. You’re a chump.

      • The Hyperbole

        I said you were right, Jesus, kick a guy when he’s down whydoncha?

      • UnCivilServant

        Well, it’s easist to kick someone when they’re down, you don’t have to lift your fot as far, and they can’t move aw quickly. When they’re up, you either have to kick high, or go for the shins, which a lot of people can move quickly.

      • RAHeinlein

        Slammer: OK, Boomer.

        Atanarjuat: Not a NAP violation unless you had a personal agreement with your employer.

    • Festus

      Nope. You paid in, they pay out. We don’t like it on it’s face but play with the cards dealt. They stole from you, steal some back.

      • RAHeinlein

        I hate it when this topic comes up.

      • robc

        Exactly. I collected 1 week of Unemployment back in October between jobs.

        I figured, why not, you are laying me off, I will collect from your unemployment account* until my new job starts.

        *I don’t know about other states, but KY keeps track of the fund by company. Rates change depending on how much money is in your “fund” each year.

      • Festus

        I used to be a seasonal worker making good coin but when the down-time came I had no problems getting back what was rightfully mine to begin with. Use the system we have, not the one you wish for. *strips off and starts hula dancing at the Glibertarian Convention*

      • robc

        I am going to collect every SS check they send me until the system fails.

        “I didn’t earn it. I don’t need it. But if they miss one payment, I’ll raise hell!”

      • Fourscore

        Liquor stores need to live too.

  31. Rebel Scum

    Chelsea Manning attempts suicide in Va. jail

    And he remains a failure in life.

  32. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Regardless of what you think about Manning, she’s in prison because she refuses to give testimony that might damage Assange so she’s alright in my book. Going to prison for doing the right thing is an admirable and brave thing to do.

    • Festus

      That’s a generous take. Bradley Manning didn’t try to do anything except blow splooey all over the place, like Reality Winner. Assange seems to have had some bonafides.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        “Manning has been in jail since May 2019 for refusing to testify before a grand jury investigating WikiLeaks.”

        Manning shouldn’t be in jail at all, for this anyway. The other stuff is a separate issue.

      • MikeS

        And if Manning had never thrown his hissy fit and spilled government secrets, there’d be nothing for her to testify to.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        If you don’t think there should be a case against Assange I don’t see how you could support this when Manning is literally in prison for refusing to testify against him.

      • Chipwooder

        Because Manning shouldn’t have been released early in the first place, I can’t say I much care.

      • Festus

        And you damned sure shouldn’t have been on the hook for its sex-change procedure. So much wrong I can’t even.

      • kbolino

        Something, something, parole violation for posting a video, something, Benghazi

    • kbolino

      I agree. This very much seems like the gov’t trying to get their pound of flesh, by hook or crook. While Manning’s actions in the Army rose to level of a possible death sentence, that is not the sentence that was imposed, and the President commuted Manning’s original jail sentence. This just seems vindictive.

  33. Rebel Scum

    Shut up, Meg Jim.

    Acosta said, “The other thing, Chris, that we should point out, at one point during the address the president referred to the coronavirus as a ‘foreign virus.’ That is interesting because I was talking to sources this evening, one of the points that the president wanted to make tonight, wanted to get across to Americans, is that this virus did not start here. But that they are dealing with it.”

    He continued, “Why the president would go as far as to describe it as a foreign virus, that is something we’ll also be asking questions about. But it should be pointed out that Stephen Miller, who is an immigration hardliner who advises the president, is one of the top domestic policy advisers and s, was a driving force in writing this speech.”

    He added, “I think it is going to come across to a lot of Americans as smacking of xenophobia to use that kind of term in this speech.”

    The virus literally came from a foreign country. It is also “foreign” in that it is a new strain of flu.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      Media today: “The most important thing about coronavirus is something unmutual that Trump said”

      Media tomorrow: “why aren’t they taking us seriously about coronavirus?”

      • ChipsnSalsa

        I have a hard time taking the media seriously when they can’t report on a simple snowstorm with any sort of restraint or perspective.

    • Atanarjuat

      Journo-List 2.0 strategy meeting: “Now is the time to whack him with the most insultingly spurious accusations of xenophobia! No other Americans are feeling skeptical of the street-shitting Chinese right now, so that will really resonate.”

    • Slammer

      Everytime Acosta opens his mouth it’s another vote for Trump.

      • Tundra

        They still don’t understand their role in his popularity.

        Sad, really.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      The worst thing about this virus is the bigotry the Chinese may face because of it, it is known. I think most people can see for themselves that what Acosta’s selling is nonsense.

    • Drake

      A real journalist would be asking questions about how a viral pandemic started at the gates of a virology lab, not trying to virtue signal.

    • J. Frank Parnell

      I was talking to sources this evening

      Oooh…. are the sources familiar with the President’s thinking?

  34. Count Potato

    I wonder if food from a supermarket deli is safe.

    • Slammer

      I worked in a deli. No. But if salt and sugar kill viruses then it’s safe, because that’s all that deli meat is

      • Count Potato

        I was going to buy swiss cheese for the leftover corned beef.

      • Slammer

        I’d go with prepackaged Boars Head

      • sloopyinca

        You’re safe from the deli if you buy the entire wheel still encased in wax. Otherwise, you’re gonna get the Wuhan and die.

    • Tundra

      Lol.

      FOOL NELSON
      @FOOL_NELSON
      ·
      53m
      Replying to
      @brhodes
      We would all have coronavirus because he wouldn’t have shutdown travel to China and he would’ve blamed it on White privilege and a YouTube video, the media would’ve agreed and would still be high-fiving each other and touching their faces. Harambe would still be dead.

      • Slammer

        Gold

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        *chuckle*

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Obama would have personally divided the loaves and healed the sick. Are all the other world leaders where CV is rampant incompetent too?

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Nope, it’s Trump’s fault there, too. China? Because he bullied them. Iran? Same. Italy? Because of Trump’s puppets who have been pushing for austerity and because of Brexit.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Yes, Obama would have prevented the virus from ravaging Italy and what looks like is going to be the rest of the EU.

      And I’m certain Obama would have kept OPEC from deciding to pump oil until we’re all broke.

      • robc

        Oh no, OPEC, please dont lower my gas prices any further!

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Good for the consumer, bad for the US oil business and the financial system.

      • robc

        Also good for any other sector that uses gas/oil as an imput. So I think the financial system losses would be small at worst.

        The US only became a net exporter last year, and its a tiny net, so dropping prices does hurt the overall US GDP a wee little bit. But basically, it is as close to breakeven on net as possible. So one industry gets hammered and everyone else gets a nice benefit.

        Such is life. Wont be the first of last time it happens.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        As long as the credit markets don’t freeze up, it will be ok. That’s my main concern.

      • invisible finger

        Credit markets won’t freeze unless there is a concerted effort to avoid price discovery.

    • Chipwooder

      Reminder for whenever a leftist wails about Trump surrounding himself with unqualified advisors: failed novelist Ben Rhodes was Obama’s top foreign policy advisor for no apparent reason.

    • leon

      Chris Hayes
      @chrislhayes
      ·
      17h
      Almost impossible to articulate how horribly the WH has screwed up the response to Coronavirus without sounding like a hysteric.

      Well Chris…

      • Naptown Bill

        Well, try though, Chris, for us benighted souls who don’t have your vast epidemiological knowledge.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Sounds a little hysterical himself

      • Naptown Bill

        I don’t know if Trump’s response was good, bad, or indifferent, but I don’t presume to have a better idea of what he should have done instead. Half the shit suggested in the NBC article would rightly have civil rights groups up in arms.

    • AlexinCT

      This reeks of the reaction Bill Clinton & his sycophants in the dnc propaganda machine had after the 9/11 attacks where they wondered how great his reaction to that tragedy would have been and how he was robbed of the opportunity to show America and the world how great of a president he was, but in reverse. These fucking people are not just stupid: they are evil. I am willing to bet money that they are all secretly hoping a lot of people die, the economy is wrecked, and America in general takes a horrible beating, just so they can have their masters take over again. It’s not a coincidence that what is horrible for America and Americans always is good for team blue.

      • Mad Scientist

        They’re not secretly hoping a lot of people will die. They’ve been complaining about over-population for decades.

  35. Q Continuum

    Chelsea Manning is mentally unstable? Here is my shocked face. ?

    • AlexinCT

      Yeah, this is the thing I am most concerned about too Q: that people act as if this individual was not fucking off their rockers already, and that this is all part & parcel of what happens when one is a few beer cans short of the full case.

  36. The Other Kevin

    My last 2 hockey tournaments have been cancelled, so my season is over a month early. Stupid virus.

    • Tundra

      Sorry, Kev.

      Virus is asshole.

  37. Drake

    Maybe we ought to postpone this whole thing?

    20,000 soldiers who have begun to arrive from the United States to the ports and airports of Europe for the Defender Europe 20 exercises, the greatest deployment of US troops in Europe in the last 25 years.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Nah, trying to intimidate Russia is important.

    • Shirley Knott

      They, of course, are not subject to the Schengen Zone travel return ban.
      I swear, the number of holes in that “ban” render it more like a coarse-grain sieve.

    • sloopyinca

      My son just messaged me that he’s still scheduled to leave for Europe on Sunday. His CO hasn’t given any indication that it’s not still a complete go.

      • Drake

        The timing seems insane. On the other hand, I guess we aren’t getting martial law if we’re sending a premier division abroad to flex our muscles.

    • Drake

      Thanks Mr. Torgue.

    • Tundra

      Great article. Will share it with my non-lifting mother.

    • Naptown Bill

      That’s awesome. Good inspiration.

      My whole routine has been shot to hell with the baby inconsiderately disregarding my scheduled workouts and callously interfering with my much-needed rest. I’m trying to remember that taking care of my kids is more important than mad gainz, but I’m a little shook that I’m losing ground. I’m consoling myself by working on the diet end of the spectrum and trying not to be a terrible father.

      • Tundra

        Eventually gainzz go the wrong way. It’s irrelevant if you take the long view.

        Still frustrating, though.

      • Warty

        Life is the Long Defeat. Don’t worry. All that you possess is on loan.

      • Naptown Bill

        True, true. I’m bummed because I’d started running again and was doing pretty good there. Still, if I remember our first kid accurately I’ve probably got another few months where we’re kind of constantly all hands on deck and then he’ll be old enough to hang out in a pack-and-play while my wife and I take turns getting some exercise in. Besides, it probably isn’t hurting me to take a break for a while.

      • Warty

        I can’t maintain any semblance of sanity or functionality if I don’t get a lot of exercise. I survived the New Baby times by doing some kettlebell swings daily, if I remember right.

      • Naptown Bill

        That’s a good idea. I think I’m letting perfect be the enemy of good, here. I’m not going to be able to carve out an hour uninterrupted, but there’s no reason I can’t get in a few reps here and a few reps there through the course of the day.

      • Tundra

        When my son was a baby, I bought a really nice running stroller. I got my runs in and the kid instantly fell asleep.

      • Mojeaux

        This is where I say one cannot be an Objectivist AND a parent.

        Sure, according to the principles of Objectivism having a child is a choice and that sacrifice is taken on willingly. However, one never really knows the extent of it all until you’ve got 2 teenagers and you’re knee-deep in angst and drama.

        It’s a life-time commitment (even if only emotionally), not an 18-year one.

  38. LJW

    TDS coworker blabbering on about how Trump lied to the public last night and if you get Coronavirus you’re going to get billed $5000 for it. Also going on a rant about how no would be sick if Obama was still president. How is this woman a pay grade below me? Makes me feel like a failure in life that she is so close.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Fundamentally, something of this nature was well overdue. If I’m pissed about anything, it’s that the health care system is woefully unprepared and half of our meds are made in China.

      Neither of those things would have been solved by Obama.

      • Tundra

        80% of the ingredients.

        So stupid.

      • Rhywun

        half of our meds are made in China

        I think it’s more like 80%.

    • tarran

      It might be amusing to mock her in the following way: everytime something trivial yet bad happens in her presence, blame it on Trump. Spilled coffee? Trump’s fault. Car accident makes half the office late? Trump. Fabricate gloriously ridiculous explanations of why Trump is responsible. Ask her if she agrees.

      I say this secure from any blowback that HR might send your way. 😉

      • LJW

        I think I’m just going to start having coughing attacks whenever she starts talking.

      • UnCivilServant

        Be prepared with something to treat the sore throat the coughing will give you.

      • Chipwooder

        Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode when Jerry and George end up in the Nazi limo – “Artificial turf…..you know who’s responsible for that, don’t you? The Jews!”

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        So Trump to the left is what the Jews are to the ZeroHedge commenter types. That’s an interesting theory that has some merit.

    • invisible finger

      Covid-19 may be her Santa Claus.

      /obscuremotthehooplereference

    • UnCivilServant

      How is this woman a pay grade below me? Makes me feel like a failure in life that she is so close.

      Just be happy she isn’t your boss.

      • LJW

        Luckily my boss is awesome.

    • Rebel Scum

      no would be sick if Obama was still president

      H1N1 (I think…) would like a word.

      • WTF

        Yes, it’s like nobody remembers the swine flu.

    • UnCivilServant

      That requires accepting an official chinese report. I’ll wait for side channel confirmation.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Yeah, the numbers are suspect but draconian measures that isolate people from each other during a communicable disease outbreak are likely to be effective to one degree or another.

      • Drake

        But their draconian measures include complete censorship of social media. They lie as easily as they breath so I’ll wait.

      • UnCivilServant

        Bagdad Bob was more believable. entertaining.

      • Drake

        I thought that guy had a big future in advertising after the war.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      They haven’t come back completely from the shutdown. Time will tell.

  39. PieInTheSky

    God a good price on a bottle of Laphroaig An Cuan Mòr . Quite nice, although not quite Ardbeg Uigeadail level

    • PieInTheSky

      got goddamnit.

  40. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Imperial College Update on Covid-19 (about 3-1/2 minutes)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PbRV2Md8Ew

    Short summary – expect socioeconomic disruption for 6 to 18 months

    • commodious spittoon

      We need to kick Trump out of office in November so Biden can lock in that disruption for at least a generation.

  41. Rasilio

    Lawyers: Chelsea Manning attempts suicide in Va. jail

    So a transwoman attempted suicide, when has that ever happened before?

    • Drake

      Aren’t we all going to be dead of Wu Flu in month? Why bother?

      • Sean

        Think of how great that will be for climate change!

  42. Scruffy Nerfherder

    A week old, but interesting. Italian infectious disease specialist on the situation there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wohTFdqCurA

    They missed Patient 1 because he co-presented with bacterial pneumonia. So they did not isolate him soon enough. Patient Zero was asymptomatic.

    They’re giving patients iPads because they can’t see them very often due to overloading. This is to provide some sense of security and less worry from being completely isolated with breathing difficulties.

  43. AlexinCT

    I’m so sick of bad news, so I want to start this morning off for you with some good news.

    At the risk some other enterprising Glib already asked the question, was he repeatedly “loved”, and for a long time? Cause that would be justice.

  44. Festus

    Fuck me this thread is fun! Gotta bow out though. Happy trails, Glibs!

  45. The Late P Brooks

    The market judgement on that announcement is that it’s too little too late.

    Sure. That must be it.

    • leon

      It’s a whole big coverup.

      Man TEAM politics is so stupid.

      This is why we never should have given the masses the right to vote.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I’d prefer a monarchy, then at least they can’t feed everyone that govt is the thing we do together bullshit (mostly sarcasm but still).

      • UnCivilServant

        I am a monarchist provided I am the monarch.

    • Naptown Bill

      There was a Reuters article about it that was so lopsided it reminded me again that Reuters is not what you’d call a serious, unbiased news agency. It could’ve been written by Joe Biden’s campaign staff.

  46. Sensei

    OK, how do you work at home Glibs do it?

    I’m at home because my company has 50% of the workforce in the office and 50% working at home.

    The problem is now I actually have to show productivity. When I was coming into the office I got productivity points for showing up. It’s decreasing my Glib postings.

    (I’m kidding – it’s been a bad week with the markets, a major project in process and going less than perfectly and now having to deal with 50% of my co-workers remotely.)

    • Nephilium

      I’ve got the same workload regardless of if I’m in the office or if I’m at home. I usually wind up putting in more hours when I’m working from home because of no commute, and it’s easier to just hop on to check something real quick.

    • Rasilio

      I used to be able to work at home and be at least as productive a s I was in the office, if not more so. Then my wife got a job which was 100% remote working from home

      • Tundra

        I work at home most of the time. The office annoys me. Even people walking by gets distracting as hell.

      • Naptown Bill

        I’m a web developer, and I have a fantastic PC, mechanical keyboard, and three large monitors. My wife has for the past ten years said that she doesn’t want me to buy or build her a computer because they’re “too big” and she just wants a laptop. She has had four laptops. She used them to chat on Facebook while watching Jeopardy. Whenever she works from home she takes my rig over.

      • Nephilium

        The girlfriend has a Surface she got as a gift, and burned out the motherboard on her PC. She decided she wanted to build another “gaming” PC. So far I think she’s played for about 45 minutes on the PC, while she’s spend days tapping on some idiotic Skinner box game on her Kindle.

      • Naptown Bill

        My wife’s gaming interests sort of begin at Tetris and end at Super Mario Bros., with the exceptions of Candy Crush and Words With Friends. Strangely, she played WoW for a while with me back in the day, but that was sort of the exception that proves the rule in her case. Her main interest was the character customization screen.

      • Mojeaux

        Tetris and JewelQuest for me, with intermittent FreeCell.

        I don’t play WoF because I suck at it and I lose. I am a sore loser. I am also a sore winner. Losing pisses me off and winning gives me 0 satisfaction.

      • Mojeaux

        Oh, I forgot Angry Birds before it got complicated and they wouldn’t leave you alone (even on a paid app!) unless you were in airplane mode.

      • Nephilium

        I just got irritated that I got drafted to help her build the new PC that she uses for Facebook and web browsing, which the Surface could do just fine.

      • Mojeaux

        I had a Dell laptop for many years (from 2006, still works, but oh, it’s slow). The battery died very soon after I got it, but we had a business warranty. Tech came out THAT DAY and brought a battery, replaced it, and I used it for I think 6 years? Not sure.

        Then I got an Asus laptop in 2012? I think? Still using it, but even though I use peripherals, I’ve gone to the library enough to work that the keyboard is failing. (I go through 2 peripheral keyboards a year.)

        Now, 2 years ago when my regular work went through a dry spell (I’m totally word of mouth), I went back to MT’ing* part time (I am ashamed to admit that) to help fill in some gaps and having regular money coming in. After a few months of being there, the company had to go to VPN and the contract called for access to my computer.

        I. Don’t. Fucking. Think. So.

        So we got a very cheap box to use for only that purpose. THEN after people screamed, the contract was amended so that was no longer required. I hate it. I hate not being mobile. I hate being chained to this stupid box.

        Now, 18 months later, the VPN thing is a nightmare. Mine has issues that haven’t been fixed, so I’m working outside it and happy to be that way. No issues. Other people can’t work. I can. But the company is cracking down so people’s systems are getting fixed. The second they “fix” my VPN and it crashes and I can’t work, I’m gone.

        I’m going to have to get a new laptop eventually and I will pay more to have Win7 on it (as I paid more for XP with the Dell). I have tiny one-purpose utilities for this, that, and some other thing, and I don’t want them to stop working.

        I really hate moving computers. I customize everything to within an inch of its life and it takes me a good week to get everything in order.

        Anyway, next computer I’m going to have 3 partitions, one exclusively for my side-gig if I keep it. This VPN thing is industry-wide so unless I can find work that doesn’t require it.

        *When I stopped MT’ing the first time in 2011 because I couldn’t afford to keep it AND do my bursting ebook formatting work, I was making 11c per line. Now i’m making 4.25c per line editing. Nobody transcribes anymore. They edit voice recognition.

        The industry has tanked. It’s awful.

      • UnCivilServant

        I used to go through multiple keyboards a year.

        I sank $150 into a mechanical keyboard and it has lasted me so long I’ve saved money over the cheap ones.

      • Mojeaux

        But can it keep up with my typing speed? It’s incredibly fast.

      • UnCivilServant

        Yes, probably better than the membrane keyboards.

      • Sensei

        Monjeaux – the gaming world has spawned multiple laptops that prize both durability and latency highly. I’m sure there is something there that will meet those requirements. The bigger issue is “touch”.

        If noise isn’t an issue get one with Cherry switches of your preferred type.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_(keyboards)

      • Mojeaux

        What did you get?

      • Sensei

        Well two votes for Das Keyboard!

      • Mojeaux

        Thanks. In my cart.

        My current keyboard’s keys are sticking and they’re driving me bonkers, but right now, I thought it frivolous to buy a new one.

        I’m going to pull the trigger on this. Thank you!

      • Mojeaux

        I should have added–wireless. I refuse to use corded peripherals if I can help it. If I could find a wireless monitor I’d get it.

      • UnCivilServant

        So, extra batteries are a good holiday gift for you?

      • Mojeaux

        So they eat batteries like Fruit Tootsie Rolls?

      • UnCivilServant

        I don’t know, I prefer wired periferals.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        They just EOL’d the official mobile Tetris app. Why they couldn’t just stop development on it, I don’t know.

      • UnCivilServant

        Tetris was complete back in the 80’s. How much development did they really need once they ported it to the new graphics engine and input schema?

    • LJW

      When I work from home I login to a remote desktop from my personal computer. I have a dual monitor setup so I have my work desktop on one screen and my home desktop on another.

      • Sensei

        I have KVM for two PCs. I was using it between my gaming rig and my personal all purpose PC.

        Now I disconnected the gaming PC and toggle between my work laptop and my personal PC. When my company sprung this on all of us over last weekend I didn’t have a Displayport to DVI adapter. Naturally Amazon managed to misdeliver the first one I ordered. Finally got the second one yesterday afternoon. My work productivity has increase exponentially with my screen real estate and a full sized keyboard and mouse.

      • Naptown Bill

        Multiple monitors changed my life. I’ve got three at home and it’s hard to go back down to two when I’m in the office. And fuck a laptop, I can’t even check email on a screen that small any more.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        I got a 34″ ultrawide monitor (3440 X 1440) approved, it’s fabulous. My only trouble is fending off the other designers who want it. I still use a second monitor for email and Word type stuff. Design work is done on the big screen.

      • Naptown Bill

        By mutual agreement I buy Christmas presents for myself and tell my wife what she got me after the fact, and one of those was an Asus Predator monitor, which is my first 4k monitor. Holy crap. I won’t lie, I got it to play video games, but the first time I wrote code on it I was in heaven. I’ve got two smaller, lower res monitors next to it and now I’m so spoiled my eyes ache if I have to read text on them.

      • UnCivilServant

        $2k per? If it’s not pure ocular orgasm at every glance, that’s way too much.

      • commodious spittoon

        To fully utilize that $1500 card!

      • Naptown Bill

        Good lord, that’s a beast! For a while I was sure that in our brave, new, VR world, a really nice monitor would be less important. Still not quite there, though, and in the meantime my kid has taken over the computer room so “room-scale” VR isn’t really workable right now unless I want to spend an hour sweeping toys out of the way first.

      • Sensei

        I have an Oculus Rift. It’s not replacing my 1920×1200 monitor anytime soon.

        I run two monitors at work and the one above at home. I’m planning on upgrading to a larger single screen at home, but I’m a bit space constrained so still figuring out what I want to do.

        My wife, OTH, has two 1080 monitors on a VESA mount as she works out of the house. She has better setup than I do at work.

      • Mojeaux

        My husband is an Asus fanboy. We buy Asus almost everything.

      • Naptown Bill

        I’ve got a Rift, too. I really do like it, but it’s just enough of a pain in the ass that I don’t use it often. When I was playing Elite: Dangerous regularly I’d use it then, but I haven’t been in the market for non-pausable games for a couple years now. I break the Rift out for golf or a couple other games now and again, but the prep time to get the room clear, make sure my daughter’s squared away, etc., is a massive barrier.

      • commodious spittoon

        Work upgraded everyone’s monitor last year to 32″, but the same resolution. So we can sit further back but it’s not a big improvement, and probably not worth what they spent.

      • UnCivilServant

        “Our pixels are the size of lego bricks!”

      • banginglc1

        When I want high definition, I just put on my glasses . . . .then I only have to squint half as hard!

      • Sensei

        Same!

        /Fellow 50 plus Glib

      • banginglc1

        Sadly, I’m only 35.

    • Drake

      Lots of Skype and WebEx meetings and messages. Baroque classical music in my headphones when I really need to concentrate.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        It’s basically no change for me. Most of the people I interact with on a daily basis are halfway around the world. I was on Skype with 30 Italians this morning, for example. The only difference is that I don’t feel guilty for skipping the 1 or 2 days per week I usually trudge into the office to be seen.

        I like that I can press a button on my new headset to turn on my “busy light” and make it look like I’m in a call.

    • Drake

      An old boss used to have “cameras on” meetings on Skype. Had to uncover and enable to laptop cameras so we could actually see each other (she managed people in several different locations so we rarely met in person).

    • Raven Nation

      Meh, most of my job’s essentially made to work from home. I get more done at home because when I’m in the office there’s a constant stream of people “I just have a quick question.”

      This semester my one class was online so no adjustment there for me.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      I’ve been working from home for 7 years now. I drop by the office every few months for a day or two, but would have a really difficult time going back permanently.

      • dorvinion

        Likewise, but for 5 years (I only expected it to last 6 months). Boss did some legwork to keep me on remote when my wife got a job in a new state.

        If ever they decide to get rid of me, I’d have a hard time going back into an office.

        Official policy for our department recently became 2 days at home in a week so now I’m a bit less of an exception. Even the non work from homers are really more remote anyway with managers frequently not working in the same offices, or states as the people they manage.

    • Mojeaux

      I’m totally unemployable, so I have to work for myself.

      When we got married, we knew I’d have to work, but I also didn’t want to work out of the house when I had kids, so I had heard of this thing called “medical transcription” which was a work-at-home thing when I found out I was pregnant. (Long story, but it was a huge surprise straight out of the gate, when I didn’t think I’d be able to have kids at all.) Signed up for a course (tres expensive) and finished a few months after she was born. I had quit my job (although my employer didn’t know it yet) the day I went into labor.

      My only panic came when I found out most medical transcriptionists were independent contractors. I had never before freelanced for anything and I didn’t like the uncertainty, but if I wanted to work, I had no choice. And then…there came the magic of the Schedule C.

      I haven’t worked as a W2 employee since September of 2003. I had always dreamed of working at home and it was/still is wonderful. When I need a break from my people, I go to the library where it is supposed to be quiet.

      • Naptown Bill

        I desperately want the freedom of working as an IC, but I also desperately need the stability and benefits of a salaried gig with the university. I think once I’m through with the MBA I’m going to take a crack at starting a business again. This time around, I know people I could bring in on it and I’ve made some professional connections I might be able to use to drum up some initial business.

      • Mojeaux

        My business is strictly word of mouth. I have a spot on a list for a popular ebook distributor and that’s it.

        I wish my books made money, but I have to market and I’m afraid.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      In the office, I have 2×26″ monitors plus the laptop monitor. I turned one sideways to do long documents.

      At home I have a 32″ monitor plus the laptop monitor. Maybe not as good as the 2×26″ setup, but it more than makes up for it in the ability to stick windows in all four quadrants. Oh, and WFH is half as distracting as going into the office. Oh, and I can go work on the back deck on nice days. Oh, and no commute and no waiting in line for the microwave.

    • Mad Scientist

      I have worked from home for 18 years. Every time I’m in the office I’m amazed anyone gets anything done there with the constant distractions and interruptions.

      • UnCivilServant

        People.
        Won’t.
        Stop.
        Talking!

      • Mojeaux

        That. And insisting I take breaks and lunch. I’m a zone worker.

        Put me on a project and leave me alone for the next 12 hours.

  47. The Late P Brooks

    Credit markets won’t freeze unless there is a concerted effort to avoid price discovery.

    Ruh-roh.

  48. Rebel Scum

    Brian Stelter✔
    @brianstelter

    Trump’s Oval Office address was exactly what his Fox wingmen needed – now Sean Hannity et al can celebrate the new travel ban – while evading the real scourge of community spread within the US

    Trump and FNC live rent-free in Stelter’s head.

    • leon

      Our favorite little piggie.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      He’s playing to his audience for $$$.

  49. The Late P Brooks

    Journalism: cataloguing Trump’s many crimes and failures

    The market tumble came hours after President Trump announced a 30-day ban on travel from European countries to the United States.

    Trump said it was an effort to stem the spread of the coronavirus, but the move caused confusion on both sides of the Atlantic and drew skepticism from several health experts.

    ——-

    In addition to the travel ban, Trump also announced measures to overcome “temporary economic disruptions” caused by the disease. The proposals include a $50 billion program to provide low-interest loans to small businesses affected by the coronavirus.

    Congressional Democrats also unveiled a legislative stimulus package aimed at easing the economic damage. Their plan includes expanded unemployment reimbursement for states, extra money for food security for low-income children and federally funded family and sick leave for people affected by the virus.

    The coronavirus pandemic has had far-reaching and quickly developing economic impacts.

    I thought the travel restriction was “too little, too late”.

    Never fear, pork will save us.

    • UnCivilServant

      Crimes:

      Failures:

      Didn’t get silencers off the NFA.
      Hasn’t prosecuted criminal actions by previous administration.
      Didn’t clean out holdouts from last administration on arrival.
      Reclassified bump stocks as something they’re not.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Blatant disregard for any semblance of budgetary restraint…

      • leon

        You left out:

        “Aided and abetted genocide in Yemen” under crimes.

      • Naptown Bill

        I agree with that list entirely, but since none of the items are “Is a rapey racist” it falls on deaf ears when I say it.

    • Trigger Hippie

      ‘Congressional Democrats also unveiled a legislative stimulus package aimed at easing the economic damage. Their plan includes expanded unemployment reimbursement for states, extra money for food security for low-income children and federally funded family and sick leave for people affected by the virus.’

      And I’m sure if such measures are implemented then allowed to expire after the hysteria subsides it will be vilified as heartless draconian cuts to the public’s general well being.

      Never give these fuckers an inch.

    • leon

      Raid that public treasury!

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “ drew skepticism from several health experts”

      Considering there are more than several experts out there doesn’t that mean more than several either thought it was a good idea or at least have no problem with it? The idea of people just traveling willy nilly from potentially infected areas seems crazy to me.

      • leon

        IDK. If the Native Americans hadn’t restricted Travel to the Americas for thousands of years, they wouldn’t have been so devastated by European diseases.

      • Drake

        The “just the flu” experts who the Italians listened to?

        Or the “quarantine everyone” Chinese experts?

      • UnCivilServant

        The “Cremate the Sick” Chinese Experts.

    • PieInTheSky

      Failures:

      Not removing visa requirements for Romanians

    • Rhywun

      I remember them! Of course, I was living in Buffalo 30 years ago….

      • B.P.

        They were fun. I lived upstate way back when.

  50. Mojeaux

    Mornin’, Glibbies.

    Okay, so this virus’s financial trickle-down better make rents cheaper in my area or I’m gonna start questioning its usefulness to me.

    • ChipsnSalsa

      When people start dying, prices will go down.

      • PieInTheSky

        In some places could be a good time to get a rent controlled apartment if the old timers kick the bucket I would think

    • MikeS

      Look at Mo’, flexing her Glib cred. I like it.

      • Mojeaux

        ← Shitlady at heart

        I’m just owning it publicly instead of to my bestie, who is as cold-hearted as I am.

    • Fatty Bolger

      Could have the opposite effect if it slows down new residential construction.

      • invisible finger

        The first effect will be dead people = failing loans.

        In a functioning market that would trigger interest rate increases, which would slow down new construction since the risk is increased. Instead we play this silly game where we keep rates artificially low to let everybody think they can be in the market, and then fight the artificial excess demand with increased regulation (building codes, zoning, etc.) that suppresses supply. We make everything as complicated as possible so as not to make price discovery simple.

  51. leon

    Saw someone say “Hey aren’t all you complaining about the Trump response the same ones who want the government to be the sole authority in healthcare”. To which someone responded “Is Government Healthcare and a competent executive branch too much to ask for?”

    These people really want Daddy to take care of them.

    • UnCivilServant

      Did you answer “Yes” to their question?

    • Rhywun

      “Is Government Healthcare and a competent executive branch too much to ask for?”

      Um… yes?

    • Naptown Bill

      No, not at all. You can probably get a competent executive branch and government health care at the same time. Mind you, the government healthcare will be the NHS, but knock yourself out.

      • UnCivilServant

        You can probably get a competent executive branch

        I doubt this. I doubt this very very much.

      • AlexinCT

        Seconded.

        These people are in this line of work because they are too inept to do other real work.

      • kbolino

        There are countries where government positions are prestigious and competitive, at least moreso than in the United States. For example, Japan’s police have an explicit minimum intelligence standard, vs. the unspoken maximum intelligence standard for many police departments in the U.S.

        However, competence is still not universal, stagnation is the norm, and the incentives are still perverse.

    • kbolino

      The head of the executive branch is not selected for competence, he or she is selected for popularity. Appointments to cabinet-level positions are not selected for competence, they are selected for loyalty or appearance. Promotions to senior positions are not selected for competence, they are selected for length of service and obsequiousness. So on down the line. If you want a competent executive branch, you’d have to start by prizing competence. Of course, that would also impact a lot of “diversity” initiatives…

      The government already runs a lot of the healthcare sector, whether directly or indirectly. They’re not going to become more competent just because you give them more power.

      • Naptown Bill

        i finally started watching “Free to Choose” yesterday, which I’d heard about a lot but had never before seen. In the first episode’s debate section–and, meanwhile, it was astonishing to see how civil and dignified and rational it was compared to anything called a debate today–Friedman responds to a socialist talking about corporations running the government by pointing out that, through double taxation and regulation and so forth, government actually owns more than half of each company and is the loudest and most controlling voice in the board rooms, since so much of what a company does is a response to government policy.

      • kbolino

        Indeed. It is an inevitable outcome of so many constantly changing rules, the “do something” mentality, the “sympathetic plaintiff, deep-pocketed defendant” syndrome, etc. Consumers are diffuse, government is concentrated.

      • kbolino

        BTW, on the subject of old but good debates, while it gets a little tense toward the end with Mrs. Limousine Liberal, the Firing Line episode with Thomas Sowell is pretty solid. Watched it recently, and it struck me how little has changed since 1981. Except one thing: one of the impediments to inequality that Sowell had identified, union membership, has cratered since then, especially in the south, and has resulted in greater equality.

      • kbolino

        meant either “one of impediments to equality” or “one of the causes of inequality”

        got a mixed metaphor there

      • UnCivilServant

        Do you still have the link lying around?

      • kbolino

        This is the one

        Looks like there might be other episodes with Sowell, I might check those out later

  52. UnCivilServant

    Is there a circumstance where a school would have both publically traded stock and an endowment fund?

    • PieInTheSky

      In a setting similar to 1480s Estonia?

      • PieInTheSky

        Only with wyverns off course

    • Jarflax

      I think it could have a pool of retained earnings/investments, but an endowment fund would be odd as the point of an endowment is to act as a Trust with the University as beneficiary but not give it control, although I suppose you could make a for profit enterprise the beneficiary. Maybe if the endowment were intended to provide scholarships?

      • UnCivilServant

        To elaborate, the circumstance is a corner I may have written myself into with Leyden Academy in the Tarnished Sterling books. It apparently has an endowment fund and scholarships, and the headmaster may have mentioned trustees at some point, but is also directly owned by another character.

        I am trying to find a way to make these pieces fit in a way that makes sense.

        A scholarship fund would make sense, as the price tag listed is painfully expensive that a lot of families would need a top-up, and the fund would have a good deal of pressure to exert on the administration. (making a conflict between the trustees and the owner an interesting future possibility.)

      • Jarflax

        The more I think about this the more I think an endowment (for scholarships, or for a specific research purpose, not for general operations) makes sense even with a for profit facility. Especially in a situation like your Tarnished Sterling world, where the Academy would be an obvious place for a wealthy person with powers, or who had a kid with powers to want to leave a charitable bequest, add in the grantor’s desire to control the use of the funds and you have an endowment.

      • UnCivilServant

        Thanks.

        It probably doesn’t warrent more than a line or two of dialog unless the plot directly relates to the relationship between the various parties, but having a sanity check help in these areas where I can’t claim expertise.

  53. PieInTheSky

    After a spike yesterday Romania did not have new COVID-19 cases today.,

    England jumped to 590.

    I think I’m a gonna skip my holiday.

    I would be more certain about it if my coworker did not still consider going on a much longer – 2 week – US vacation which makes me feel like a quitter for 4 measly days in London.

    • Naptown Bill

      Postpone the holiday. Setting aside the risk of infection, you’ll have to deal with air travel and international borders during a time when everyone’s on high alert about contagious diseases. And God forbid you get stuck in the UK because of some quarantine.

  54. Plisade

    Dispatches from the Coronavirus Panic supply lines: My plant packages dried beans and rice for private label retail. We normally run 2 shifts 5 days/week. We’re now 24/7 with that same crew. The workers are tired. Production component supply is strained. No hope in sight. I’d thought this would blow over after a couple weeks; now ratcheting up my cynicism.

    • PieInTheSky

      do they at least pay overtime for the extra work?

      That being said, as of today I also have like 2 weeks of food give or take

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      My take on that is 15 to 20 is the normal. A pullback to 1980 ratios would be unpleasant.

      • AlmightyJB

        That’s mine as well.

      • robc

        I like PEG. PE to Growth Rate. It should be close to 1.

        slower growing companies get a lower PE ratio.

      • robc

        The problem with both PE and PEG is that they don’t apply to companies that aren’t making a profit yet. They are good measures for older, more stable companies.

  55. OBJ FRANKELSON

    YI couldn’t agree more, Sloop. The lady boy was nothing more than a base malcontent that did nothing useful. He should’ve been booted out on a failure to adapt administrative separation before he made it to his unit, but the Army was much less choosy in the mid-oughts.

    I am happy to say that he failed out of the schoolhouse that trains my former job. I knew some of his instructors, his shitbaggery was very apparent to them.

    • AlexinCT

      I blame orange man!

    • leon

      This is why you shouldn’t feed the animals!!

  56. Florida Man

    Is it too early to start selling “I survived COVID-19” t shirts?

    • UnCivilServant

      “I beat Wuhan, and you can too.”

    • Naptown Bill

      “Wuhan Flu Ain’t Nuthin’ To Fuck With”

      • Florida Man

        Oh, very good.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      You might want to wait until you actually survive it first.

      • Florida Man

        Most people will survive the virus. The dead don’t buy stuff so I don’t need to worry about that demographic.

    • PieInTheSky

      you are obviously not a chicken farmer

      • UnCivilServant

        I plant the eggs in the ground, but the chicken trees never sprout.

        Nanny Bloomers lied to me!

      • Florida Man

        I work in the government accountability office.

    • leon

      ChiComs have a lot of support in the media.

  57. The Late P Brooks

    David Frum- I assert, therefor I am

    At every turn, President Trump’s policy regarding coronavirus has unfolded as if guided by one rule: How can I make this crisis worse?

    Presidents are not all-powerful, especially not in the case of pandemic disease. There are limits to what they can do, for good or ill. But within those limits, at every juncture, Trump’s actions have ensured the worst possible outcomes. The worst outcome for public health. The worst outcome for the American economy. The worst outcome for American global leadership.

    ——-

    More people will get sick because of his presidency than if somebody else were in charge. More people will suffer the financial hardship of sickness because of his presidency than if somebody else were in charge. The medical crisis will arrive faster and last longer than if somebody else were in charge. So, too, the economic crisis. More people will lose their jobs than if somebody else were in charge. More businesses will be pushed into bankruptcy than if somebody else were in charge. More savers will lose more savings than if somebody else were in charge. The damage to America’s global leadership will be greater than if somebody else were in charge.

    There is always something malign in Trump’s incompetence. He has no care or concern for others; he cannot absorb the trouble and suffering of others as real. He monotones his way through words of love and compassion, but those words plainly have no content or meaning for him. The only thing that is real is his squalid vanity. This virus threatens to pierce that vanity, so he denied it as long as he could. What he refuses to acknowledge cannot be real, can it?

    And even now that he has acknowledged the crisis, he still cannot act, because he does not know what to do. His only goal now is to shove blame onto others. Americans have to face the fact that in the grip of this pandemic, the Oval Office is for all practical purposes as empty as the glazed eyes of the man who spoke from that office tonight.

    Let me guess: this never would have happened if we had only accepted Hillary Clinton as our one true savior. The world inside your head is an ugly, dark, squalid place, Dave.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      And what, pray tell, would an ideal President have done?

      • UnCivilServant

        Magically stopped the chinese from selling medical waste animals as food.

      • Florida Man

        Tighter border control to prevent the spread of infectious diseases…wait a minute.

    • kbolino

      Was Frum ever a conservative?

  58. The Late P Brooks

    And what, pray tell, would an ideal President have done?

    She would have played an enchanting tune on her magic flute, and lured all the little coronavirae into the ocean, where they would drown. And then we would live happily ever after. As long as we kept our tribute offerings up to date.

    • leon

      And if we didn’t pay, she would then lead all the boomers to the sea.

  59. The Late P Brooks

    Embrace tyhe collective. Resistance is futile.

    As COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, spreads in the United States, it is becoming clear that America’s individualistic framework is deeply unsuited to coping with an infectious pandemic. Right now, one of the most important things Americans can do is deploy measures like social distancing and self-quarantining, even if they do not feel sick and are not at risk of the worst effects of the disease, in order to “flatten the curve” (epidemiologists’ term for slowing down the natural progression of an outbreak). This requires a radical shift in Americans’ thinking from an individual-first to a communitarian ethos—and it is not a shift that is coming easily to most, especially in the absence of clear federal guidelines.

    Blah blah blah.

    Toxic individualism will be the death of us all.

    • kbolino

      It is very important that we forget this all started in China, lest we realize that all of these arguments are facilely disproved by the nature of the government in the disease’s place of origin.

    • leon

      Crazy how every news event ever is always a point that requires us to abandon our individuality and embrace the collective.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        Never let a crisis go to waste.

    • invisible finger

      How is isolating myself communitarian?

      The doublethink from these people is endless.

      • UnCivilServant

        You’re keeping your filthy self away from the untainted, you individualist heathen!

        /lostforaquip

      • leon

        You need to think about the greater good of everyone else, specifically me, before you think about yourself you selfish asshole.

    • Fatty Bolger

      in the absence of clear federal guidelines

      lmao

      • kbolino

        We’re individually too stupid to figure this out, but somehow the government composed of us can do it.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        something something finer clay, something.

      • Shirley Knott

        One of the best Demotivaters posters from years back pointed out:
        All of us are stupider than any of us.

    • B.P.

      If we were all more community-minded, we’d be better equipped to isolate ourselves. Or something.

      • B.P.

        I see this low-hanging fruit has already been grabbed.

  60. The Late P Brooks

    in the absence of clear federal guidelines

    lmao

    “Tell us what to do, oh Great and Powerful Oz!”