Adventure Golf: Hualapai Mountain Park

by | Apr 9, 2020 | Fitness, Fun, Games, Pastimes, Sports | 213 comments

 

 

I had heard a lot about this disc golf course in the mountains south of Kingman, AZ and decided it was time to check it out. I met a new guy on the local course, Casey, a tinfoil libertarian, Fireball whiskey-drinking, colon cancer victim, great player, and after a few rounds we decided to go up.

 

 

We live in Bullhead city, at about 507 feet above Sea level, about 60 miles SSE, is our destination, Hualapai Mt. Park. We arrive at the Ranger station, elevation 6500 feet ASL, looking for directions, forgot about that. I parked and even with a course map it took twenty minutes to find the first Tee,

 

The map is reversed Casey

Many disc golf apps are GPS enabled, we use UDisc

 

This course is built into the side of a Mountain, there are trails, but any errant shot will put you down steep gullies and Rock faces, tough to climb down and up, here’s a look towards a pin, it’s there, just out of sight behind a tree, goody.

 

 

 

Happy with one over

Did I mention we live in Western Arizona? This is March 24, 2020, snow

 

Looking East towards Flagstaff

 

and Hualapai Mountain,

 

 

 

Yusef the Tired

Burnt out

 

There is a lot of game, Elk, Bighorn, Deer and even Bears, although we didn’t see any, we saw a lot of scat, this is another Gem in the Desert. As far as the Game, it was the toughest course I ever played, every shot was risky, trees, cliffs, snow and water and I felt like either my ankle was going to explode, or have a heart attack, Casey’s blown out knee didn’t help him for sure. It took 3 hours and 49 minutes, and that was fast, god my body hurts…..

look close, the Pin is right in the center,

Casey, after his first game there, is already top Ten, he shot +10, I shot 100, yes +46, and still made top 20, it’s that hard

 

He’s looking at the next basket, we just finished the one behind him

 

Desert eh?

 

Until the next Course, cheers.

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Yusef drives a Kia

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213 Comments

  1. leon

    Looks Beautiful! I need to get back hiking.

    Dang Kids!

    • Lackadaisical

      Ducking snowed today. Not that snow should stop me, but it definitely didn’t increase my motivation.

  2. hayeksplosives

    Great scenery! Glad you found a disc partner.

    • Yusef the Bored

      It is a wonderful place,

      • BakedPenguin

        Sounds like a good time, Yusef. From the name only, I’d have guessed it was in Hawaii.

  3. Don Escaped 1PHJ1

    6500 feet

    home of the 130 yard sand wedge

  4. Yusef the Bored

    I thought this was posting tonight, I need to walk Bella right now, I’ll be back in an hour,
    Cheers!

  5. Sean

    Love the pics!

    • Fourscore

      Beautiful, even the snow. Would almost trade but the lakes keep calling my name. I would walk a round with you though, Pardner.

  6. R C Dean

    Glad to see you are doing well, Yusef. Nothing scenic going on at the Casa Dean, so this is what you get:

    We have painted murals on most of a long hallway outside our children’s hospital operation.

    Pretty cool, I think.

    Also cool.

    There’s others. Not sure if we are completely done. Nobody is working on them, but whether its due to the Wuhan Zombievirus Freakout Catastrophe, I couldn’t say.

      • Jarflax

        I think the first picture was drawn with a kit!

    • Fourscore

      That’s the way all hospitals should look, friendly for kids, not scary for the rest of us. Good job to all those that did the work, approved the changes, etc

    • robc

      Is the “exit” in the sky of the first one making some sort of religious statement?

    • Mojeaux

      Those are lovely! Pay that artist extra because I have seen some murals that are nice, but not quite there, if you know what I mean. These are on point.

      • R C Dean

        I’ll post some more at some point. The same crew (two millenial hipster artists who probably look exactly like you imagine) did all of them.

      • Mojeaux

        Children’s Mercy Hospital/Clinics here is a wonderland of color and excitement. I LIKE going there. I take my kids there for ophthalmology and XX for pediatric XX things. Ob/gyns don’t take patients under 18.

    • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

      Those are great.

    • Shirley Knott

      Great stuff! Whoever did the painting needs recognition. Being a kid in a hospital is horrible. This doesn’t ‘talk down to them. Kudos.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Adding to the chorus, very nice. Good balance for a kids wing. I’d go there if I was a kid again.

    • The Last American Hero

      Please say you’re going to sneak in and add Steve Smith to the forest.

      • R C Dean

        I see you haven’t met our pediatric nursing staff.

    • DEG

      Those look good.

  7. Count Potato

    Nice views.

  8. PieInTheSky

    This course is built into the side of a Mountain, there are trails, but any errant shot will put you down steep gullies and Rock faces, tough to climb down and up, here’s a look towards a pin, it’s there, just out of sight behind a tree, goody. – how many discs are lost during a game?

    • Yusef the Bored

      We found every one, truly hard work to get to some of them,

      • PieInTheSky

        you should train the dog to fetch them maybe

      • Yusef the Bored

        Holes aren’t good, and she Hates sound of the chains

      • R C Dean

        she Hates sound of the chains

        Glib dog CONFIRMED

  9. Tundra

    Beautiful, Yusef!

    I’m glad they haven’t shut you guys down.

      • Tundra

        That’s sad.

        Jake’s is on there. It was a terrific place that went to hell over the last couple years.

      • robc

        If you were planning to open this fall, you can get some steals right now, I am guessing.

  10. robc

    Par 54? Is everything a par 3? I would think on that course, there were some par 4s for sure.

    • Yusef the Bored

      We did too, it’s a Beast,

      • robc

        Even pro golfers treat the Road Hole at St Andrews as if it was a par 5.

      • Yusef the Bored

        Looking at the Leaderboard for the course, at least 6 holes should be par 4 or better, I don’t think anyone has shot par there ever,

  11. Mojeaux

    Wow, what a view! Thank you for that, Bob.

    • Yusef the Bored

      Isn’t it neato! the view toward Flagstaff is at least 100 miles,

  12. Sean

    Semi related: https://newengland.golf/3-massachusetts-men-arrested-in-r-i-for-violating-golf-quarantine-order/

    Police received a call Wednesday afternoon from the local McDonald’s, reporting that two cars with Massachusetts license plates had been parked there for several hours. At 3:15 p.m., police officers saw the men return and unload their golf clubs from the Rhode Island vehicle back to the Massachusetts-registered vehicle.

    I’m hate everyone involved in this story.

    • Sean

      I

    • Rhywun

      this sordid report

      I hate the writer of that article.

      • Tres Cool

        why not use sleazy, squalid, or vile?

    • BakedPenguin

      Yes to this and Rhywun’s comment.

      Also, if the brochure pic is accurate, that looks like a really nice course.

    • Yusef the Bored

      We are open for Golf in Arizona, Ducey said so….

    • Gustave Lytton

      The same people who would turn in Anne Frank without a second thought.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’m slightly on board with a business dealing with non-customers parking in contravention of posted signs, but the usual way to deal with that is just tow the vehicles, not call the cops. The story make it sound like it was more about the Masshole plates than trespass.

      • robc

        Slightly related story…there are a 1/2 dozen restaurants right next to where I work, it is a fairly touristy location, my office building is out of place. All of them have “XXX parking only, violators will be towed” signs. No big deal. However, the one whose parking lot is right behind my office has gaudy signs in every space with the price to remove a boot on the sign. Just obnoxious level. My wife refuses to eat there because of them (and they have the lowest yelp rating in the group).

        They may have had issues in the past, but it is so over the top compared to everyone else, I am just assuming the owner is an ass.

  13. kinnath

    Nearly 17 Million Americans (and Counting) Have Now Lost Their Jobs

    Another 6.6 million Americans filed for unemployment last week, the Labor Department announced Thursday, bringing the number of coronavirus jobless claims to a staggering 16.8 million in the past three weeks. The number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits last week dipped slightly from the week before, where a record 6.9 million workers lost their jobs. By comparison, 200,000 people submitted jobless claims the week before the U.S. started shutting down economic activity to prevent the spread of the virus. The number of jobless Americans has now, in just weeks, eclipsed the number of jobs lost over two years of the Great Recession.

    People will lose businesses and houses.

    People will lose health insurance so they will get sick and stay sick or they will get sicker if they already are sick. Some people will die.

    This will trigger domestic violence. Some people will die.

    This will trigger suicides. Obviously some people will die.

    But this is fine. These deaths are worth it so long as it prevents one death from a viral infection.

    • Nephilium

      Look, when we said, “If it saves one life”, we only meant from this.

    • PieInTheSky

      amazing so many people no longer exploited by evil capitalists.

      Now bring in a sufficient basic income and they will never need a job ever again

      • kinnath

        $600 a week, cash money.

      • PieInTheSky

        hey in Bucharest that is solid that is basically what I make here after tax

      • Yusef the Bored

        with UI, 907$ a week, I’ll be looking for a while,
        something about perverse incentives?

      • dbleagle

        The state of Hawaii spokescritter said yesterday that unemployment is “above 30%”. That number climbed at least five points from last Thursday when they said it was 26%. This is going to be bad for a very long time. Tourism will not just snap back because the potential tourists won’t have money either.

        All of this destruction of lives for 435 infections and 5 deaths. (Official numbers, take with a grain of salt.)

    • Fourscore

      The cute lady doc on Fox said ” We can’t let that happen” meaning that some people are going to die.

      She needs to take a trip around the nicest nursing home she can find. ALL those people are going to die, that’s why they are there.

      Preaching to the choir, I know, I know. It really burns my butt to believe standing 6 feet apart, not seeing friends, no camaraderie is a solution.

      Worst part is taking credit for solving a non-problem.

      “My kid is a juvenile delinquent”

      /Proud parent

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Preaching to the choir, I know, I know. It really burns my butt to believe standing 6 feet apart, not seeing friends, no camaraderie is a solution.

        Just imagine how much could have been saved if they simply issued a guideline telling the most vulnerable to stay at home, and instead of wasting trillions, spend a couple billion on subsidizing courier and delivery services for those people.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Everything that really needed to be done was already happening, before any government got involved.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Yep, agreed. I should’ve put a SLD on my comment. I was thinking more along the lines of if government has to do something, here’s one much less destructive to, well, everything.

    • Gustave Lytton

      The branch covidians will just say this proves the need for single payer healthcare not tied to employment, either employer provided or directly purchased.

      • Gustave Lytton

        And the knock on effects of nearly 20M people not able to pay their bills and buy goods from so-called essential businesses without cutting back/dipping into savings/credit which in turn takes that money from other uses. Dipshits think they can surgically centrally plan an economy.

    • kinnath

      I decided to rid myself of most of my Facebook friends. So I posted the following:

      17 million people filed for unemployment insurance in three weeks. That’s 17 million households in turmoil.

      This will trigger domestic violence. Some people will die.

      This will trigger depression and suicide. Obviously some people will die.

      Trivial percentages applied to 17 million of anything becomes significant numbers. Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people are doing to die as a direct result of shutting down the economy.

      But these deaths will go untracked by the CDC, unreported by the press, and unfollowed by social media. They will be invisible.

      Rest in comfort knowing there are no consequence to shutting down the entire economy to deal with a health crises.

      I will let you know how people respond.

      • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

        I’m gonna steal that.
        Good luck.

      • kinnath

        Let me know how that goes.

      • Tres Cool

        I just sent a copy to a friend of mine. Nice work.

      • Lackadaisical

        seriously got into a bit of a spat for posting about the same.

        sorry for pointing out reality, I guess.

      • robc

        Now this difference is enormous, for it almost always happens that when the immediate consequence is favourable, the ultimate consequences are fatal, and the converse.

      • kinnath

        So far, I have only had one thoughtful response from a close friend.

        This is a waste of time 😉

      • Tundra

        I sent it to a buddy. He said some lives are simply more important than others.

        And then he said I should send it to “our fuckhead governor’.

      • kinnath

        And my good friend just went off the deep end.

        This is going to cost me some good wine the next time we get together.

      • Ozymandias

        kinnath – I think doing what you did is EXACTLY what we Glibs who are so inclined should be doing. I mean, if you’re stuck at home, why not wade out into your little corner of the internet and start kicking a little statist ass? Start spreading notions of Freedom and Liberty as paramount values, even over Security. That little snippet you put together is just one piece of a much more damning case against all of this. I put up something yesterday about why California could have less than 400 people dead with the most contacts with Chinese and it generated a bunch of nonsense – but a LOT more people chimed in asking good questions and challenging the more obvious bullshit claims. Social media should be the “marketplace of ideas” where the more rhetorically inclined Glibs can make inroads against the stupidity. Some of you do it on twitter and other places, too. We need more of it to turn the tide because the loudest voices right now are also among the stupidest and most authoritarian.

  14. l0b0t

    Holy Mackerel! That place is gorgeous. How are rents? What’s the job market like?

    • PieInTheSky

      it is fine if you work from home I suppose.

      More important is how hot it gets in the summer

      • UnCivilServant

        You will be a charred husk.

      • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

        At those elevations? Not very hot. You’ll probably be above whatever thermal layer sits over the desert.
        On the other hand, the UV will cause your vampiric DNA to melt.

      • Chipwooder

        You want hot in Arizona? You go to Yuma.

      • dbleagle

        Only if you can’t stand the heat in Gila Bend.

        But the cartoon is funny.

      • Chipwooder

        Drove through Gila Bend many times on the way to Phoenix – it was pretty much the midway point. Oddly enough, the staff sergeant who taught the Humvee drivers license course in Yuma was from Gila Bend. He used to claim that, because he grew up in the desert, he could just drink Dr. Pepper all day and be totally hydrated.

    • Yusef the Bored

      Super high property values, expensive homes,
      Mining and trucking out of Kingman

      • PieInTheSky

        Mining – eh how hard can that be?

  15. Tres Cool

    Great pics, Yufus!

    I havent been “out west” for some time, but when I see pics like that Im reminded that once upon a time, people with little more than a horse and a rifle crossed those areas, all on their own.
    And recently we’re told we’re not allowed outside. And nearly everyone complies.

    • Fourscore

      True story, bro

    • Yusef the Bored

      The lopcal course is in great shape, light winds, I’ll be there in a little while and play 36 holes,
      it’s going to be 70 degrees today, Gorgeous weather,

    • PieInTheSky

      why do chicks like #4 ruin themselves with hideous tats?

      I’ll just take 10 and 11 I suppose

      • grrizzly

        In the before-the-CV times, a former(?) Russian Surgeon General (Sanitary Doctor) was bloviating about banning tattoos in the country. And I realized that it was one of the most totalitarian measures that had a certain appeal to me.

      • Suthenboy

        I mentored a young girl some years back. When she told me she was planning on getting a tattoo to ‘express her individuality’ I suggested she get the word ‘Cliche’ tattooed on her forehead.

        She didnt get the tattoo.

  16. Yusef the Bored

    OT: Today is Black Thursday, I woke up on my 33rd Anniversary and for the first time since I was a little kid, I was alone,
    You get over things, but not really,

    • UnCivilServant

      We’re still here for you.

      • Yusef the Bored

        I have my Friends, This I know, I just feel like my life ended, and I don’t quite know what to do with myself,
        So I Golf and get wasted while chatting over here,

      • Yusef the Bored

        UCS, You all have been the best of friends, and I appreciate it,

    • PieInTheSky

      There’s not much to say to make things better…

      • Yusef the Bored

        You are correct,

    • Mojeaux

      I don’t know if it makes any difference to you but I marked the date in my journal. I see the little yellow flag and think of you.

    • hayeksplosives

      I will still wish you a Happy Anniversary in honor and celebration of all the good years and memories.

      • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

        ^^THIS.

      • DEG

        Yes. I wish the same.

  17. Rebel Scum

    Neat. I haven’t played disk golf since college. Also used to play soccer golf. Fun times.

    Windy here today. Power is flashing and CAD is crashing. Perhaps I should call it a day.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      I’m waiting for some tree limbs to fall out of the trees. They’re getting a workout today!

      • Donation Not Taxation

        OT: Saw SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr on April 9, 2020 at 8:08 am
        +1

  18. Yusef the Bored

    I’m off to play, I like solo games, it very Zen, and I could use it,
    Back Later Mein Froinds!

  19. hayeksplosives

    I just had a telephone appointment with my neurologist. Man, that was easy. That will be my preference in the future unless there are changes or I have questions.

    And no exposure to germs!

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Lucky you. I’ve got some serious tinnitus and ear pain right now. Getting ready to go to the ENT.

      Yuck

      • hayeksplosives

        Good luck! Hopefully a week of antibiotics is all ya need.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I won a week of steroids and 4 weeks of Flonase combined with daily antihistamines!

      • DEG

        Best health wishes to both of you.

    • Ted S.

      I hope you’re OK.

  20. Naptown Bill

    Man, that is some beautiful country.

  21. R C Dean

    This is now being flogged as strong support for the economic lockdown.

    A few observations:

    Those curves don’t look very flat to me, although they do compare late/loose lockdowns with early/strict lockdowns, and the latter do look better.

    Interesting that some cities didn’t put the lockdowns back in place during the second wave. I wonder why? My eyeball doesn’t detect much of a difference in the second wave based on whether the lockdown was put back on.

    Also interesting:

    The most effective efforts had simultaneously closed schools, churches, and theaters, and banned public gatherings.

    So forcibly closing churches has a long history. What’s not on that list? Closing “non-essential” businesses.

    • Ozymandias

      I call bullshit on that whole piece. How many confounding variables are they ignoring that could also be the cause of the “flattening?” How similar or different were 1918 Philly vs. 1918 St. Louis? And that article has a massive boner for authoritarianism:

      Of course, getting citizens to comply with such orders is another story: In 1918, a San Francisco health officer shot three people when one refused to wear a mandatory face mask. In Arizona, police handed out $10 fines for those caught without the protective gear. But eventually, the most drastic and sweeping measures paid off.

      What a complete crock of horseshit. What infuriates me this is two things:
      1 – That same exact tripe will likely be written about our current freakout 50 years from now. “If only Trump had been a real leader and taken the drastic measures that were necessary, more lives could have been saved.”
      2 – I actually agree with their conclusion that “In 1918, the studies found, the key to flattening the curve was social distancing. And that likely remains true a century later, in the current battle against coronavirus.” The problem is that truth does NOT equal “we just need to beat the citizenry harder.” The vast majority of people, if provided with accurate and truthful information about a plague/virus, will do exactly as ASKED and/or take additional risk-mitigation measures that will result in a significant “flattening of the curve.” IMO, the voluntary actions people take in risk mitigation are the single biggest reason for “flattening the curve” NOT the fact that govt officials threatened people with jail OR ELSE!!

      Confirmation bias is a helluva drug! It will make you confuse the difference between a govt order and reality.

      • R C Dean

        I just noticed this:

        In 1918, a San Francisco health officer shot three people when one refused to wear a mandatory face mask.

        WRF?

      • robc

        Not a good shot? Nothing has changed.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        Just for good measure.

      • Fatty Bolger

        It’s like potato chips.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That got an actual LOL from me.

        I feel dirty.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Gotta be sure

      • Not Adahn

        The other two were obviously exposed by the unmasked guy and were a threat to the health of the community.

      • BakedPenguin

        How similar or different were 1918 Philly vs. 1918 St. Louis?

        Well, in the AL, the St.L Browns came in 5th while the Athletics bottomed out the League in 8th place. In the NL, it was kind of opposite, with the Phillies coming in 6th while the Cards bottomed out the league in 8th. The Red Sox and Cubs won their respective pennants. Sox won the series, which I hope they enjoyed, b/c they wouldn’t win again for 85 years.

      • Ozymandias

        My grandfather was born after that world series and had to wait all 86 years to see his first.

    • AlmightyJB

      So maybe we should social distance at a 100 yrds?

      • Sean

        Well, that’s where most of my rifles are zeroed…

      • Timeloose

        Nice! mine are at 50 and 200

    • Suthenboy

      “Researchers in Finland have created a chilling video that models how coronavirus could spread…”

      Could. Might. Maybe. In other words, they pulled this out of their ass. They made shit up.

      Chilling.

      • Drake

        One cough = zombie apocalypse

      • Rhywun

        All rations will be personally delivered to your residence, citizen. Please allow extra time for the unwelding and rewelding.

      • BakedPenguin

        Chilling.

        Well, it is Finland.

    • Rebel Scum

      *coughs in your general direction*

  22. grrizzly

    Boris Johnson is out of intensive care, remains in the hospital.

    • Urthona

      thought he might be in trouble there.

      • Invisible BEAM of the comment stream

        He still could be, but I’m glad to hear he’s been moved out of ICkyU.

      • Tundra

        Yeah. Not exactly the picture of health there.

    • The Last American Hero

      I thought I heard thousands of voices cry out in terror and go silent.

    • Not Adahn

      Can you imagine what will happen if it’s reported he got HCQ?

  23. Fourscore

    The Demos shut off McConnell’s plea for the 250B this morning, with its not enough. Want 500 B, ’cause somehow some people got skipped, like food stamp recipients et al.

    Looks like Old McConnell’s gonna have to reach across the aisle if he wants to have a real farm. Already has the pig with an oink-oink here and a…but it ain’t a real farm, not yet

    • RAHeinlein

      Reports yesterday that the Dem’s also wanted “half” of the small business loans to go to women or minority owned businesses.

      • Tundra

        Lamp post time!

      • The Hyperbole

        Why do you hate women and minorities?

      • R C Dean

        Because he’s met women and minorities?

      • DEG

        Yes.

      • BakedPenguin

        Because they remind me of you?

      • leon

        well… Women and Minorities make up a majority of the population so is that so wrong?

      • leon

        I mean if you include White Men as a class they only make up (probably) around 36% of the population. So i guess that makes White Men a Minority too. So 50% of the funds have to go to Women and Minorities -> Everyone.

      • R C Dean

        If the half the loot goes to women and minorities, wouldn’t that mean half the loot goes to white men, even though they are 36% of the population?

        Talk about racist. Still, for the Democrats, its kind of a throwback to their roots as the party of white supremacy.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The way it typically works is the (insert female/minority/veteran of choice) sets up a business with exactly one employee and proceeds to bid on government work while falsifying experience.

        Then when they win it, they farm it out to a qualified bidder who lost for a ten percent cut of the job. The qualified bidder, having nothing else to do, sucks it up and uses it to maintain payroll.

      • Gustave Lytton

        The other option is husband puts his wife on the masthead as the “owner”, while continuing to run the business as he would.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        My sister in law who owns a successful plumbing business says thanks!

      • Mojeaux

        I hope it’s not APW and she’s not the “Dixie difference.”

      • Certified Public Asshat

        If she is successful then there is probably no loan for her.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s not like those businesses don’t already have an immeasurable advantage when bidding on any government work.

        FUCK OFF

    • Urthona

      I could totally see Republicans caving on this particular one. It is only more money that looks like they’re saving people

    • R C Dean

      Maybe while they are fiddling with the new bill, they can get rid of this provision that mysteriously showed up in the last bill:

      Tucked into the recent recovery bill was a provision granting the Federal Reserve the right to set up a $450 billion bailout plan without following key provisions of the federal open meetings law, including announcing its meetings or keeping most records about them, according to a POLITICO review of the legislation.

      • Urthona

        Imagine having the job where you actually have to read and scrutinize real legislation I wonder what the suicide rate is.

      • leon

        Depends. I hear the pay can be good.

      • Sensei

        The pay isn’t as good as the pay after you leave.

  24. DEG

    That looks like a great place.

    elevation 6500 feet ASL

    I first read “ASL” as “age/sex/location”, and thought, “That’s a weird response to a/s/l”, then realized its “above sea level”.

  25. The Bearded Hobbit

    Those mountains are seriously rugged. The the last stretch of I-40 to be completed was the part between Kingman and Seligman, mostly for all of the blasting that they had to do. Finished around 1972.

  26. mikey

    Thanks, Yusef. I always enjoy sharing your adventures.

  27. l0b0t

    A tale of dichotomous panic levels.
    Two days ago, my store halted the only X number of patrons in the building at a time plan. Yesterday, an employee on day shift tested positive for the CCP Cooties. Now, both stores here on the peninsula are limiting access AND forcing all aisles to be one-way only.

    Meanwhile, by my house, I’ve been patronizing the Rockaway Beach Brewing Company almost daily since the shut-down closed my local good beer store. Usually, there are only 1 or 2 people on line to get growlers or food to go. The brewery has been an absolute lifesaver, allowing me and the kids to play Uno in the courtyard while noshing on cheese fries and sipping beer. They say if the cops come, just tell them you’re waiting on your food. Today, the courtyard was packed. The pushback has begun. Most were masking but kids were running around and everyone was eating, drinking, and chatting with abandon.

    • UnCivilServant

      Must be hard to force a cheese fry through a mask…

      • Not Adahn

        The McNinja family manages it.

    • Nephilium

      The grocery store I hit up yesterday had a sign up. They were only allowing 1,288 patrons in the store at the same time. I didn’t notice anyone counting when I walked in.

    • robc

      Can we just vote them out?

      Okay, you are independent, here is your proportional share of the national debt, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

      • leon

        If we let Tennessee Leave now, all those dead soldiers would have given their lives in vain. Can you look at the descendants of those dead soldiers and with a straight face tell them that great great grand-dad died in vain?

      • BakedPenguin

        WAIT! Take Illinois with you when you go. New York, too.

    • Not Adahn

      California this week declared its independence from the federal government’s feeble efforts to fight Covid-19 — and perhaps from a bit more. The consequences for the fight against the pandemic are almost certainly positive. The implications for the brewing civil war between Trumpism and America’s budding 21st-century majority, embodied by California’s multiracial liberal electorate, are less clear.

      That’s some fine journalisming Lou.

    • R C Dean

      Cut through the slavering hatred of Trump and general ignorance and delusion, and it sure sounds like Newsome is declaring that California is no longer part of the US.

      Governor Gavin Newsom said that he would use the bulk purchasing power of California “as a nation-state” to acquire the hospital supplies that the federal government has failed to provide. If all goes according to plan, Newsom said, California might even “export some of those supplies to states in need.”

      Of course, Newsom is just doing exactly what Trump told him to do – buy his own damn masks and don’t crawling to the feds unless and until you admit you are incapable of doing so. The feds are the last resort when the states and municipalities are incapable of dealing with a crisis themselves.

      I don’t recall ever hearing of this writer before, but I will know to not waste time on his ravings in the future.

      • leon

        You can always tell an Ethnic Californian from other Americans. Usually from the Shivering in 60 degree weather.

      • Q Continuum

        “it sure sounds like Newsome is declaring that California is no longer part of the US.”

        I will throw a party for every Glib with a complimentary bag of blow and a hooker if this were true.

        Of course, it will never happen purely for national security reasons. Shortly after independence, the Chinese would annex Kali either through economic warfare or by force and then proceed to start setting up military bases in North America. That would be bad.

  28. Fatty Bolger

    Something I was thinking about earlier. Everybody instinctively understands that rich people get better stuff, including medical care, right?. They always have access to things poorer people don’t have.

    So why do people have such a hard time understanding that the same is true for rich countries vs. poor? And yet, it always seems like the solution to everything is to make ourselves poorer.

    We’ve drastically reduced paid services at hospitals and medical facilities in the country because of the pandemic, even though it hasn’t hit most of those places. We’ve made those hospitals poorer. So logically, should we expect those hospitals which are struggling to stay alive to be better prepared when the pandemic hits their area… or worse?

    • Q Continuum

      Forget about the fact that yes, capitalism has made rich people richer, it’s also made poor people much less poor. To a prog, that’s irrelevant. How much better a poor person’s life gets doesn’t matter as long as there are people who still have it better. The disparity itself is immoral to a prog. So, in their tiny little brains, it’s better for everyone to be equally poor and miserable than for everyone to be relatively more prosperous and happy but unequal. Of course, none of that applies to the Nomenklatura.

    • leon

      Everybody instinctively understands that rich people get better stuff, including medical care, right?

      To my Mom, that is wrong. She doesn’t think that how much money you have should equate to what healthcare you get. She’s never articulated how she proposes to ration it out.

      Any other system results in shortages, or requires people to make moral judgments about the “worthiness” of people, or both.

    • robc

      The antibody tests are going to show why CA didnt get hit hard.

      • Sensei

        Because they already got hit and nobody noticed?

      • robc

        Oh, they noticed, they just didnt know what it was.

        A friend of mine (not in CA) is convinced he had it in December. Symptoms all fit, doctors couldn’t figure out what he had. He didnt get to hospitalization level, but he was in bad shape for 2 weeks.

      • Mojeaux

        I think the

        doctors couldn’t figure out what he had

        is the clue.

        My husband went to the ER for sickness in February (I think). They dx’d him with pneumonia because it was the closest to what he seemed to have, and they could not figure it out. I believe they wanted to admit him, but the hospital and the ER was packed and it was only a Wednesday morning! It took him about a week to get over it and that was AFTER he was seen.

        My daughter was really sick in January, too. I’m convinced both of them had it, though mildly.

      • Tres Cool

        Ive been saying that, too. Around Christmas, I had some kind of bug. Then around a month later, Jugsy saw her doc for mostly the same thing- horrible cough, mild fever, aches, etc.

        The doc said “you dont have the flu, but its some virus, and its been going around”

      • R C Dean

        My theory that this got here earlier than we know, and a lot more people have had it than we know, really hasn’t had evidence one way or the other, and won’t until we get antibody testing.

        They’ve done some antibody testing and analysis in NY, which shows that most NY cases can be traced back to Europe. This may not be consistent with the strong version of my theory, which would indicate that the virus got here early from China and spread over the country before anyone even knew about it or there was a test for it. That said, they are only testing identified COVID patients, meaning ones that were tested and thus were relatively recent. They wouldn’t have tested anybody who had a mild case or an early unidentified case.

        One of the researchers did say this:

        “I’m quite confident that it was not spreading in December in the United States,” Dr. Bedford said. “There may have been a couple other introductions in January that didn’t take off in the same way.”

      • R C Dean

        On a quick scan, I’m not seeing that it is a random sample, which would be ideal. Still, its a start.

      • Urthona

        I’m convinced I had it already and am signed up for the antibodies testing program here in North Texas. There’s such a queue though I don’t get my appointment until May 8th.

        They also really want everyone to do it. Even if they had no symptoms. For research.

      • Tres Cool

        Of course they wont take your DNA with the sample, either. For research.

    • hayeksplosives

      Can we punish the pants-wetting bureaucrats for all the to-do?

      • Tres Cool

        Next election. But I dont know if your voice will be heard over the braying jackasses taking credit for saving their state/county/city etc.

  29. Chipwooder

    Off topic – I fucking hate the work “folks” now that it gets used incessantly by leftists.

    • leon

      I’ve used it for ages…

      • Jarflax

        Ein volk, ein reich, ein Fuhrer!

      • juris imprudent

        Damn your nimble fingers!

      • Jarflax

        We’re just being united.

    • Q Continuum

      I hate it only if it’s spelled “folx”.

    • juris imprudent

      Whenever some leftie rambles on about how all of us need to be united, I remind them of the term for that, in the original German.

  30. leon

    From the Newsom Delcares independence article:

    Third, and this may be the most enduring effect, Newsom is sending a powerful message to both political parties. So far, the Republican Party’s war on democratic values, institutions and laws has been a largely one-sided affair, with the GOP assaulting and the Democratic Party defending. The lethal ruling this week by the U.S. Supreme Court’s Republican bloc, which required Wisconsin residents to vote in person during a pandemic that shut down polling stations, is a preview of the fall campaign. The GOP intends to restrict vote-by-mail and other legitimate enfranchisement to suppress turnout amid fear, uncertainty and disease.

    Anyone this in the tank for the DNC should take a break from CNN.

    Also the Supreame Court ruling did not do that at all. That is a flat out Lie. It required that Mail in Ballots be postmarked the Day of the election according to the Statute of the state. This must be what is being sent out in the DNC talking points to the talking mouthpieces, because they are hittting it hard. They want CV to be a panic through November so they can push these voting changes.

    • robc

      He confused US Supremes with WI State Supremes

      • leon

        Two cases. US Supreme court ruled mail in ballots had to be postmarked on the 7th. WI court ruled that the Governor was a power grabing douche.

        Now what i don’t get is: Why the fuck are the states even involved in hosting the fucking primary elections. All of this could be avoided if the Parties paid and ran their own processes.

      • robc

        THIS.

    • Rebel Scum

      Trump has caused the GOP to interrupt Democratic norms, for sure.

  31. hayeksplosives

    2 books on my Kindle list: “Dangerous, Crooked, Scroundrels: insulting the President, from Washington to Trump

    And

    Sunnis and Shiia: a Political History

    • juris imprudent

      Comedy balanced with tragedy, I like it.