Emissary of Cospaia (EoC) and I went to Concord, NH today for the Rally to Reopen NH. It was held in front of the State House. Being Saturday, the State House was empty.
I figured the rally would not be big.
Chris Sununu seems to be a popular governor. He is in his second of two terms. Each term in New Hampshire is two years. He is running for a third term. He currently has only one primary challenger. The gubernatorial primary is in September. My impression from reading news, talking with coworkers, and posts on the NH subreddit is that many people in New Hampshire think Sununu is doing a good job. There is a small minority that thinks he did not crack down hard enough, in other words, he should have been more like Gov. Whitmer of Michigan. There is also a small minority that think he has cracked down too much. I looked at the facebook event for the rally and the facebook page for the group behind the rally, and comments ran about 50/50. Half supported the rally and half opposed it.
Combine the above with the snow, rain, and cold weather, and I expected no more than 100 people.
EoC and I arrived in Concord at about 12:15 PM. There were more than 100 people in front of the State House, plus people in cars driving around the State House blowing the horns of their cars. I found a place to park, then EoC and I walked over to the State House.
I wore a bandanna over my face not because of any concerns about Lil Rona (AKA SARS-CoV-2) but because of some concerns that I won’t go into in public.
We saw a variety of signs and flags. There were plenty of Trump 2020 signs and flags. Gadsden Flags. American flags. I saw a New England Flag.
New England Flag
For signs, I saw many “Fire Fauci” signs. I saw a “CDC Lies” sign. There were several signs concerning “all jobs are essential” and “my freedom is essential”.
EoC and I wandered around and found an area where we could listen to the speakers.
I zoomed in on a few signs from our vantage point.
I think about a third of the attendees wore masks. No one kept Leper Length from each other. We saw no uniformed police officers during our time at the rally. EoC and I estimated the crowd of people at its peak to be between 200 and 300 people. While we listened to the speakers, we noted the crowd died down.
Panorama of the crowd
I think the number of cars built up during the time we listened to the speakers. There were never enough cars for gridlock.
One last observation before I go into the speakers. We noticed some open carry of rifles. I saw a M1A. I first thought it was a M14. When I got a better look I saw it had no selector. There were several AR variants carried. There were a few pistols openly carried. I had a pistol concealed on my person.
Blurry picture of the guy with the M1A
Blurry picture of a guy with a AR-15
My observations of the speakers are from my memory and notes. Except for one person, I did not get their names.
The first speaker we heard is Nobody.
He is Chris Sununu’s only declared Republican primary challenger. During his speech he mentioned something about another rally on the 20th. I see no information about that rally on Nobody’s campaign webpage or on the Reopen NH web page. If that rally happens, EoC and I plan to go.
More of Nobody speaking
The next speaker was a woman. I think she is a candidate for state office but I could not hear clearly. What I could hear is that according to her, New Hampshire now has 124,000 unemployed people thanks to Governor Sununu’s actions.
Then a former Green Beret spoke. He talked about his time in Afghanistan. He talked about poppy plants in Afghanistan and how he suggested that if the government was serious about hurting the drug trade, the military should just burn every poppy field they found in Afghanistan. According to him, the response from his superiors was, “We won’t burn the poppy plants because it would destroy the local economy.”
A nurse spoke next. She talked about how the WHO, CDC, and NYC health department have been pumping up numbers. “If the person tests positive for the virus, it’s a COVID-19 death.”
The next speaker was a bit surprising. A public school teacher from Manchester. She talked about how the kids aren’t learning and how the distance learning program isn’t working all that well. She also mentioned that her school district is getting ready to do this next year. I think that could be for reasons other than a planned shutdown of the state like what is going on now. The NH Education Commissioner has a long history of pushing educational reform in the state and it wouldn’t surprise me if he is using this situation to push for more distance learning as a permanent thing.
Then the lawyer that brought an early, failed suit against Governor Sununu’s orders got up to speak. He mentioned that when the rally started, there were signs around the State House stating that gathering in groups larger than 10 was a misdemeanor. He said we are all ignoring the signs. We have the right to protest. He offered to represent anyone arrested at the rally for free. He commented about the lack of police presence.
I started to zone out during the last speaker we listened to. However, I remember at the end that he implored everyone in the crowd to remind elected and appointed government officials that they “work for us!”
On the way out
At about 1:15 PM, EoC and I walked away from the speaker area and made a circuit of the State House. We found evidence of the signs the lawyer talked about. They had all been ripped down or otherwise damaged.
Heh
Unfortunately, I did not have my phone ready to take the picture of the best vehicle of the rally. A guy covered a plow truck in signs and had flags flying from the truck’s bed. It was pretty impressive and I’m kicking myself for not having my phone ready to get a picture of it.
It was a good little rally. I have not checked any New Hampshire news outlets to see if there was any coverage of it, though I see Lemon Grenade found this story which has some pictures, some video, and fills in a few things where my memory and notes failed me. Unfortunately, I think the rally was too small to matter. On the other hand, it is good to see like-minded folks making noise.
I should have waited a day before I hit submit, but oh well. Everyone runs into problems with premature posting, right?
went to Concord, NH today for the Rally to Reopen NH
I wrote this on the 18th.
Blurry picture of a guy with a AR-15
Looking at the blurry picture, I might have been thinking of another guy. I’m not certain that guy is carrying an AR.
New Hampshire now has 124,000 unemployed people thanks to Governor Sununu’s actions.
To put these numbers in perspective, a 2019 estimate of NH’s population is 1,359,711. A 2018 estimate of Manchester, NH’s population is 112,525. Manchester is the state’s largest city.
200-300 people? That’s what? 45% of New Hapshire’s population?
“Combine the above with the snow, rain, and cold weather”
Isn’t that New Hampshire?
Usually the southern part of the state is done with snow by now. I blame Global Warming. There’s nothing it can’t do.
So a bunch of deplorables making a mockery of the valiant efforts of medical personal everywhere.
10/10
So you give it a 1.
Harsh, but we’ll record it.
I imagine your recording gloves are lace.
You are wrong.
Recording gloves
You can get the data on five vinyl platters at the same time.
Oh, I’ve already noticed some of the chains are allowing you to purchase food to be donated to “our front line heroes”.
During his speech he mentioned something about another rally on the 20th.
I went up to Concord yesterday. According to a post on Free Keene’s website, the second rally would be on the 20th at 4:20 PM.
It was a waste of time. I arrived in Concord a little after 4:20 PM.
When I drove past the State House, I saw a group of about ten or so people in front of the State House. I parked and walked over to the State House.
I saw a few folks leaving. There was a group of five people hanging out in front of the State House. I kept walking. I made a loop back to my car and left.
When I drove past the State House on my way back to the highway, I saw a new group had popped up on the corner of the State House’s property. They were holding up signs offering “FREE HUGS!”.
I wonder if efforts are being suppressed by the Facebook crackdown.
FREE HUGS
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“If the person tests positive for the virus, it’s a COVID-19 death.”
I read in NYC they don’t even need to test positive.
In Indiana, they just announced they have revisited deaths in the last month and have declared some of them COVID deaths despite not testing. They are not doing the same thing to non-fatal cases. Sounds innocent enough, until you realize what that will do to the fatality rate.
That’s the problem when things get politicized.
No, they don’t. And 1/3 of the city’s deaths are now “presumed” to have had it without any testing.
Well sure, what else could it be!?
It’s pretty telling that seasonal flu deaths have all but disappeared, and deaths overall show no excess deaths for year to year stats.
Only the Commie Cough can kill an 80 year old with morbid obesity, diabetes, and COPD. Science!
Never mind that only 25% of those being tested are positive. And presumably most of those being tested are symptomatic with covid like symptoms, not just getting tested because.
That’s 25% for NY state via worldometers. NYC and NY don’t seem to have easy to pull up numbers on testing.
Try <a href="https://covid19tracker.health.ny.gov/views/NYS-COVID19-Tracker/NYSDOHCOVID-19Tracker-Map?:embed=yes
Goddammit it ate my comment again.
Try <a href="https://covid19tracker.health.ny.gov/views/NYS-COVID19-Tracker/NYSDOHCOVID-19Tracker-Map?:embed=yes
Fuck, what special chacter does the URL have that’s fucking up WordPress? Question marks in URLs cause commenting to break?
This looks like it redirects.
For a good two weeks, it’s been a steady 92.5% of cases downstate, ie. Rockland/Westchester and points south. Tighter quarantine there and don’t lock down the rest of the state.
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Thanks. Even for the larger numbers, well under half are testing positive. Makes zero sense, other than inflating numbers, to call every death with Covid like symptoms a covid death.
We’re all pandemics now.
Plans for another rally are in the works.
I have seen nothing else so far about it. If it happens, I will go and report on it.
If the person who just dropped a tip in my jar is a Glib, thank you!!!!
These euphemisms.
As opposed to money left on the dresser ?
It may have involved chapter 18, I don’t know.
“How To Make Money From Cuntes & Cods”
1) place the cod in the cunte
2) shake it all about
…
3) profit
LOL
Now THAT is how you market!
Relevant?
https://twitter.com/NicholsUprising/status/1252400701151404033
Joe isn’t doing so well.
I don’t trust anyone. I’m done with polls, I’m done with testing, I’m done with this whole damn thing (Moo goo gai panic).
More politicized BS.
Who are these morons who trust the CDC?
People who don’t read I suppose.
45% of those polled can’t figure out what Joe is saying.
When I was a boy, the coronavirus is a grave threat to our national security. Between him and Krushchev, we need to increase funding to the national endowment of the arts. Stop killing big bird! Pass the endangered species act!
I’m Joe Pesci and I’m running for mayor of Newfoundland!
Thanks, DEG!
It’s nice to see people not buying into the panic.
Our protest was on Friday in front of the Governor’s mansion (why, exactly do we maintain mansion for these fuckos?). St. Paul police estimated 800 people or so.
I hope these continue.
You’re welcome!
I hope the protests continue too.
Related.
Thanks for taking the time to write this up.
I like this look better
I’m worried about the trigger discipline of the guy on the far left.
I’m also worried about his AC1 levels.
Thing is, if those brothas started coming out in force to stand ranks with the protests, half of those yahoos would get on the ‘law ‘n order, why aren’t they respecting authority like a patriotic American?’ tip. My fear that this is all turning to the Tea Party Circus 2.0 is becoming realized. And it’s a damn shame.
It always will turn into a circus. Just like how every anti-war protest turns into a circus. There are a lot of people who either have nothing better to do than protest, or make quite a bit of scratch from protesting.
It’s true. Though I think part of it is that there isn’t yet a new Thomas Paine to communicate the philosophy and ideology of principled liberty to the people in a clear and concise manner. Thus, we get the amorphous blob of “Jesus is my vaccine! Hands off my Medicare!”
It also doesn’t help that Trump shanked Massie in the back. That is an unforgivable sin according to my reckoning.
It also doesn’t help that Trump shanked Massie in the back. That is an unforgivable sin according to my reckoning.
Yup, that one eliminated in me any consideration of voting Trump. As much as I enjoy the Trump-hating schadenfreude, all of the being a shit head to the left gets undone when you’re a shit head to libertarians, too.
…there isn’t yet a new Thomas Paine to communicate the philosophy and ideology of principled liberty to the people in a clear and concise manner.
THIS!
Libertarians are great people, but absolute shit marketers.
Michael Malice was going on about it the other day. There is absolutely the “build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door” attitude in the liberty movement. Too bad it’s complete and utter bullshit. I know it pains some people to hear it, but you need to sell. The ideas of liberty are genius, yes, but when your salesmen are the LP and a bunch of purity-testing high priests, it’s not surprising that it doesn’t catch on.
It kind of feels counter productive to have to market things other than propaganda… If more people used their brains…
I think if those brothers showed up in suits, no masks, no tactical-Timmy bullshit, they would be a powerful visual.
But I’m with trashy, most of these turn loco over time.
Unfortunately any chance of that happening is pretty much null due to the early adoption of the movement by the Confederate battle flag and Condor Tactical size XXXL vest crowd. In reality, they are small in number, but thanks to the media’s monomanic depiction, the well has been poisoned. As was their plan all along.
If Kaepernick doesn’t want to stand for the anthem he should go back to China!
You’re welcome! I like the picture in that article.
I watched a recording of the PA protest. I like how the one speaker who admonished the crowd for not keeping Leper Length and wearing masks was shouted down.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/washington/articles/2020-04-21/eastern-washington-sheriff-wont-enforce-stay-at-home-order
Good.
*sigh*
Meant to be a new thread.
Benson told me that this was normal.
+ Inga Swenson
Wood.
Thanks for the interesting write up. Just like the 2016 election, there are going to be some vocal supporters, but many more stealth supporters. I think a lot of us have experienced a lot of people quietly loosening the restrictions on their own.
I guess I need to find a new set of friends, etc. I know zero folks who voted for Hillary but are now for Trump. And several who voted for Trump that won’t be voting for him this time. The latest turncoat’s last straw was suspending the WHO funding and Trump demanding his name on the stimulus checks. He isn’t too keen on Biden and wishes Pence were the GOP nominee instead of “the child throwing temper tantrums in the White House.”
Did they not even ask why the funding was suspended?
The people I know who are most loyal to Trump are still the blue-collar guys. Steel workers, heavy construction, trades, etc.
You’re welcome!
Just go back to your dacha old man.
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1252217601154940934
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We are the third world country now
Well you best leave while the leaving is still allowed then…
Sweden’s Top Epidemiologist: COVID-19 Infections Flattening Under Policy of Individual Responsibility
I’ll bet the ass-clown lefties don’t want to be like Sweden anymore…
What happened to that surge that everyone was predicting in Sweden for the past 3 weeks? I thought they were supposed to be hit hard and change their evil ways by now.
To be fair, they have about 30% more deaths per capita than we do. It will be interesting to see the overall death rate after a full season. Hopefully it will burn itself out quickly in Sweden. I’m not convince they are doing the right thing, but I’m glad that someone is taking a different approach so we can see how it works out.
To be fair, they have about 30% more deaths per capita than we do.
Their infection rate is virtually identical. The lockdown was to reduce the infection rate in order to reduce the death rate by preventing the health care system from being overwhelmed. Unless that’s the reason for their higher death rate, it doesn’t support the argument that Sweden should have locked down.
I don’t really trust the numbers for infection rate. If you don’t test, the rate will be close to zero. Hospitalizations and deaths are probably better numbers to look at.
All the data is suspect. Including hospitalizations and deaths, especially since so many of those who died were quite elderly and likely had comorbidities that would have taken some of them out regardless.
Since the purpose of the lockdown was to slow the rate of infection, I think data on infection rates is the data to look at it in trying to see whether or how well the lockdowns work. Whether somebody who has it survives implicates a number of other variables, so its not good data to look at to determine if the lockdown worked.
It’s only because Sweden has socialized medicine that they’ve been able to do that.
/absolutely guaranteed lefty response
*shrugs* My daughter is in middle school in MSD. From what I see, the program has been administered well, the curriculum has maintained rigor, and my daughter is developing the skills to manage her own learning through time management and building a sense of self-autonomy and self-efficacy that most kids don’t develop until their sophomore year in college.
Me thinks said teacher is a.) computer illiterate, b.) a grumpy Karen resistant to all change, and/or c.) concerned that her union sinecure is in jeopardy.
That’s why the state is so friendly to charter schools, including VLACS.
*shrugs* My daughter is in middle school in MSD. From what I see, the program has been administered well, the curriculum has maintained rigor, and my daughter is developing the skills to manage her own learning through time management and building a sense of self-autonomy and self-efficacy that most kids don’t develop until their sophomore year in college.
Yup. And teachers love having that kind of control over students. I was homeschooled for a chunk of time, up until High school. I never grasped the concept of having to “get a hall pass” to go to the bathroom, or step out to blow my nose, get a drink from the drinking fountain etc. I understood being polite and not doing so during a lecture, but during time that we were given to work on assignments, it made no sense. I had several teachers reprimand me for not asking for permission. I remember one time i had a doctors appointment, and i informed the teacher that i would be leaving early, and she demanded a note. I was really taken back at that. I told her i didn’t have one and it didn’t matter because i was going to go to the doctor regardless of what she demanded.
There’s absolutely teachers that teach because it gives them power, rather than because they want to empower students.
There was a radio segment this morning where they were taking callers asking the question “is homeschooling making you feel dumb”? Most callers were “lol, yes!” my kids need to be taught by trained professionals.
No one considered that maybe, if they were unable to recall how to solve a middle school math problem, that perhaps the system had already failed them and all of the other parents.
I will say this much – a lot of elementary school and middle school math assignments these days are retarded. This scenario has played out over and over again: my kids ask for help with their math homework. I attempt to explain how to do the problem, and they get very agitated and wail “But that’s not how they taught us to do it!” So, ok, tell me how they taught you…..and they tell me some convoluted shit that makes me dizzy.
They’ve made simple things far more complex than they need to be.
This has been explained to me. I understand it, but I think it’s terrible:
They are teaching what I call “piecemeal-math,” which is to say, if you are going to leave a 15% tip, you figure 10% of the bill, divide by two, add that number to the 10% and you have figured 15% in your head easypeasy lemon squeezy.
Except…some people don’t think that way (like, me) and teaching them TO think that way is almost a lesson in futility. A friend of mine on Twitter thought it was perfectly reasonable to teach this way and didn’t understand EVEN WHEN TOLD that there are people who do not think that way.
So teachers supposedly pride themselves on teaching kids in the way they learn. Except…math. They flat refuse to do straight-up repetition and times-tables type stuff for the people who need to do it that way.
Drove XX nuts. XY, I have no clue. He just does his work as fast as he can and is not bothered by Bs when he could be getting As if he thought about it for half a second.
I wasn’t taught that way – it came into my head on my own.
But yeah I would have to agree that such tricks should not be “taught”.
I had to be taught that trick.
Some people don’t. I did.
It’s easier to increase the bill by 50% and remove a decimal place to get the same answer. That way you don’t have to hold two numbers in your head.
Exactly, Rhy. It’s a nice “trick” for a problem like calculating 15% where the numbers are convenient. It’s a bureaucratic method for solving more complex problems like calculating 27.36% – way more involved than necessary.
Thats a trick? I’ve always done it that way, how else do you do it?
If you need to add $1.89 in your head while grocery shopping, it may well be easier to add two bucks and subtract 11 cents. But to use that “trick”, you still need to know the basic fact that 100-89=11.
But then you’re forgetting the $0.15 tax on that $1.89 because it turns out it’s in the wrong category of food…
@leon
So what? If you know how to do it, that’s all that counts, at least as far as testing is concerned.
@UCS
That. Calculus was hard. Physics was not.
It is. Figuring 15% is harder than figuring 20%, which is why I used that example.
@TheHyperbole
Total * 15%
I would never think to do it any other way. I can do it that way. I just can’t do it AS FAST but it never occurred to me to do it the other way.
@Ted’S
True, but that’s not quite analogous because I figure that extra 11c as tax, so I just leave it at $2.
So what? If you know how to do it, that’s all that counts, at least as far as testing is concerned.
Cause i want the guy making the bridges i drive under to understand their craft better than “Well i was able to pass the test” level.
Are you a bridge builder and/or were you planning to be a bridge builder?
Seems to me that the people who are going to be bridge builders don’t have these problems. They already “get” the math and its application.
Oh, by the way, I’m not trying to be pissy, even though I think I’m coming off that way. I have a huge crush on higher math *because* I don’t know how to apply it (except in the setting of physics and I have no reason to do physics anymore).
It’s a language I can mimic, but not understand. Like a Spanish actor learning his English lines phonetically and having to have someone tell him how to act them because he didn’t understand what he was saying. (*koffAntonioBanderaskoff*) (*fans self*)
Seeing as i was invested in taking Calculus, I would like to have been treated like an Adult, rather than a 3rd grader that needed to memorize multiplication tables. My point is that rote memorization can be useful for some things, but that just like the way you clearly are opposed to doesn’t work for everyone, rote memorization does not work for everyone, and at some point is actively detrimental.
I think I’m missing something. I’m talking about learning addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division by rote memorization in early elementary school, not try to teach those by using algebraic concepts.
I think it’s convenient to have memorized calculus formulas, but most of my professors offered to let people use cheat sheets.
What do you memorize in calculus besides formulas, and maybe not even then?
I think it’s convenient to have memorized calculus formulas
I wish I had, that I could: it must be spatial to me. Then as now, I would need to draw a sine wave, chart the slopes, and then I would know whether d(sin) = cos or d(cos) = sin. From that differential observation, I know the integral is the reverse.
I memorized precisely one integral in all of the integral books: ∫(e^u) du for the obvious reason.
What do you memorize in calculus besides formulas, and maybe not even then?
For me it was all the derivation rules (though we were allowed to use some cheat sheets). Things like the Chain rule, etc. My frustration was that after learning and doing that i still couldn’t apply it to anything practical.
Memorizing the multiplication tables is important, largely because it’s the only way to do multiplication manually (unless you break it down to addition i guess…). And for those things it was a lot easier for me to see how to apply it. I think a large part became my disaffection with math because in real life there isn’t always a guaranteed answer, and there is often a disconnect between the word problems you solve, and learning how to apply the math to problems and what it means. So my issue, was that i learned how to solve the kinds of math problems i would get on a test, but not how to apply that math to real problems. It is part of why i really struggled at Physics when i got to college (and eventually dropped out of engineering).
I’ll amend my point. Memorization is useful to me, but really only once i’ve understood why something is that way. So for me drawing those charts would have been helpful because i would have better understood where the formulas came from.
Fun was teaching my kid how to do toilet paper math. Not. Nor was price-per-ounce. Nor was volume.
My kid doesn’t think that way. I don’t know how to teach her anything.
See, heres another thing. Maybe i was just thick, but i didn’t realize that this was the case because in part, that is the definition of e. i just thought it was a coincidence.
Another problem with math, though i don’t know how much it can be remedied, is that for me, it felt like magic, the way it was taught. Here are some rules, if you break them you are wrong. And there is not a lot of effort put into getting people to understand it beyond that level.
Seems to me that the people who are going to be bridge builders don’t have these problems. They already “get” the math and its application.
95% of my electrical engineering Signals and Systems class would like a word with you.
Oh, good. Electricity math escapes me.
Oh, good. Electricity math escapes me.
I’m pretty sure that actually is magic
The RF and microwave field is pretty close. I liked it because it required a feel for the problem as well as a mathematical understanding.
Designing an antenna is an art. Well it used to be, but genetic algorithms and numerical field modeling have changed that.
15%? I thought 20% was standard.
Compute 20% then round up to the next even dollar amount. Pay cash, exact amount.
Well if so many people are only paying 15%, that explains why I get good service when I go out to eat.
Standard is 15%. Exceptional service is 20%.
I’m going to posit the flip side. For most people rote-memorization only conveys minimal functionality. I know that i aced my AP Calculus test, but i couldn’t tell you what any of it really meant. I memorized all the rules and just puzzled out the answers because i knew there was an answer that could be sussed out. Take me to 1st Semester mechanical engineering and i couldn’t think through how to get the data to do such calculations because i never learned what that “math” i was doing really meant. I had learned to solve specific word problems that were setup for me, but not to actually apply the math.
Memorization has its role, but for a long time math has been taught almost exclusively focused on that, and it is not really helpful.
I couldn’t understand calculus until I took physics. When it was no longer just abstract math, but associated to an actual tangible thing, it made sense.
As I mentioned below, they fail at both. They no longer teach memorization or concepts effectively. Tips and tricks are useful but convey no understanding.
I could still tell you the rules for basic derivatives but that really tells you nothing about the relationship between a function and its slope.
Math is just a language for describing problems.
Solving problems is the skill that needs to be taught.
He just does his work as fast as he can and is not bothered by Bs when he could be getting As if he thought about it for half a second.
I resemble that remark!
/A- student who usually did his homework on the bus ride home
The quality of math education, particularly in primary school, has become atrocious over the past few years.
They consistently ignore that kids learn in different ways. Some need SAMSON (repetition, process, memorization…), others need a more conceptual approach to fully achieve everything that they can. The schools take a one size fits all that sucks for both. On top of that, most primary and middle school math teachers barely understand the concepts they’re working with.
Agreed – and unfortunately, they selected the wrong size. The SAMSON method is the best overall, but aligned the hardcore math types need access to an alternate track to reach full potential.
If you can put-up with/know hot to handle kids, teaching early elementary school isn’t hard, but the alternate math teaching methods are befuddling and the El Ed majors have no chance.
I remember going through that growth period sophomore year of college. I was quite jealous of the homeschoolers who could self-motivate and self-discipline as if it were second nature.
Me too. Hell, I’m jealous of my daughter’s work ethic now.
developing the skills to manage her own learning through time management
She probably does it in less time too.
Absolutely. Starting at around 9 AM, she’s usually done by 1 to 2 PM. She’s currently in AP Algebra and Trig; if she comes across a topic she’s struggling with she has to either wait until I’m free to help her or when her teacher has virtual office hours, so sometimes she has to belay that work until after dinner. The fact is, she has the opportunity to schedule her day with a freedom that she hasn’t experienced prior. With a little gentle nudging here and there, she has taken to it quite well and only has let an assignment or two slip under her radar.
My daughter has been sleeping late every day and has easily finished her work in a few hours. She’s a senior in HS and I’m amazed at how much better her attitude is when she doesn’t get up at the crack of dawn.
Early start times for HS are retarded.
There is a reason that I had very few 8 AM classes in college. My freshman year, I managed to start most days at 11.
She talked about how the kids aren’t learning and how the distance learning program isn’t working all that well.
Sounds like government school business as usual. What’s she bitching about?
a.) computer illiterate, b.) a grumpy Karen resistant to all change, and/or c.) concerned that her union sinecure is in jeopardy.
All of the above?
See? Trust me. I worked in MSD; I know of what I speak.
🙂
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Not bad.
“Hello, is there still a reward for the whereabouts of DB Cooper?” “How much?” – Bacon if he was a snitch
Reposting from Links thread. Need to vent to the only people who won’t call me a bad man for even thinking this:
One of the Office Progs just came in, bleating as usual about Trump, and asked how I was doing. My wifes workplaces is “non essential”, so she had to go back to retail, which was already a paycut, and now retail has her cut down to 20 hours a week. So I kind of related that, then asked how they were doing.
Her husband is a fucking bureaucrat, which I did not know before today, “working from home”, and of course no paycut. I like this lady, shes a nice lady, but shes fucking clueless. I was so pissed off, but its not her fault, and I didn’t want to unload on her, but goddamn its really fucking easy to talk about how important it is to shut down the fucking economy when your husband is making a fat government check to “work from home”.
I was giving her the benefit of the doubt until I learned that, and now I just straight up have her filed in the “Fuck you, you’re a parasite” file.
If we’re going to cut out non-essential jobs, then bureaucrat needs to be top of the list. They’re not even elected, let alone useful. Let’s see if that adjusts their attitude.
My job is pretty useless, as is the work of the people I support. We only exist to keep track of all the other bureaucrats the state pays to do even more worthless stuff.
How about the staff for all the government officials who are pushing for the lockdown? And do we really need all of these administrative positions in the closed school systems now?
Of course not. They’re the aristocrats, the rest of us are peasants. I’ve never been angrier at the government than right now, and that’s saying something.
They’re also hypocrites, just like gun grabbers with armed security. None wear masks in public and certainly not at their press conferences and many can’t even demonstrate social distancing with their staff and sycophants.
This lockdown would end in a couple of days if we furloughed without pay all the government people and members of the credentialed elite class.
Emissary of Cospaia – also I think this is another one of glib in-jokes I don’t get
We all do these sort of inside jokes and think they are clever. The truth being that no one else understands them, but out of fear, everyone pretends to understand them so that everyone else will also pretend to ‘get’ our jokes that no one else really understands.
Now shutup, libertard!
Infrequent commenter here.
I see more them racist snake flags. I guess that ends the debate about whether or not the USA is the most racist nation on earth.
“Emissary of Cospaia”
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He mainly lurks. He posted here once or twice and joined one or two of Nephilium’s virtual happy hours.
I sent him a text message letting him know the article is live so he can add his thoughts on the rally.
I blame Heroic Mulatto myself.
What did I do now?
I searched the comments for the word Cospaia and just one thinng turned up
Was it T H I C C?
Huh. *shrugs* I don’t remember.
According to Wikipedia, Cospaia is a modern-day hamlet in Umbria, Italy, that was once an independent republic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Cospaia
Cospaia, the Lost Italian Republic
A small, long-lived Republic, anarchy, tobacco and other things they didn’t teach you in school
https://www.wanderingitaly.com/blog/article/1146/cospaia
It’s a type for “Emissary of Cosplayer”.
how many types are there?
I don’t know how a ‘photo surfaces’ from a public account, but here’s Whitmer in a Planned Parenthood Makes America Great hat.
Would agree if it was her Mom wearing the hat.
What a vicious cunte she is. Pretty much what you’d get if you genetically engineered a Karen.
She is pretty much the Platonic ideal of a Karen.
They didn’t get the picture of the back, where it says “by cleansing the country of all the defectives”
Nothing says “Makes America Great” like removing responsibility for one’s actions on the taxpayer’s teat.
The authoritarian statist fucks who run my state arrested the woman who organized a New Jersey protest. I would love to see Andrew Napolitano take her case.
And in case you have any optimism about most of the
peoplebleating sheep here getting upset about their constitutional rights being stripped away:Gov. Phil Murphy’s approval rating skyrockets to all-time high during coronavirus crisis
Standard question with regards to approval ratings and polls – who did they ask?
They asked NJ voters, who inexplicably voted the assclown into office in the first place. NJ is a very deep blue state.
Certainly not me. Not that I believe the rag the Star Ledger has become.
Every cloud has a silver lining.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/apr/09/coronavirus-us-newspapers-impact
A bonus would be if they’ve just prognosticated their own doom.
Marxism dies in darkness.
the European Union is discussing bailing out the fuckers in the EU. Hopefully brexit means guardian dont get shit.
Glenn Reynolds continues to disappoint.
To be sure, Glenn.
What if my position all along has been that the models were obviously crap from day one, and that anyone doing the slightest bit of research could have confirmed that? That has been vindicated, so my dead certainty has been justified.
What if my position has been that we shouldn’t respond to “a situation full of uncertainty and unreliable data” with draconian and destructive measures? Why shouldn’t I be dead certain of that?
If I have been abusive of people using a jumped-up crisis to push their pre-existing agendas, why is that not justified?
You were wrong, Glenn. You fell for the panic, for the con. Show a little self-awareness, and admit that you have been one of the people showing a high degree of certainty based on crap data and worse models.
“Oh, but the lockdown was justified because it hasn’t been as bad as the models said” commits two cardinal sins. One, it is premised on the models not being crap, which we now know they were. Two, it presumes that the lockdown actually had a material effect, which the data from Sweden and the handful of American states that didn’t lock down conclusively refutes.
Alright, three cardinal sins: it trades liberty for the illusion of security.
The Wu Flu claims another victim.
SF’d the link?
Try again.
That’ll do
Maybe it’s diabetes?
Your last cardinal sin trumps all others.
I don’t care if this was the bastard love child resulting from an orgy involving HIV, smallpox, Black Death and cholera; my freedom is not worth some Karen’s imaginary safety. If the disease is really as terrible as that, people would fucking self-quarantine anyway without being forced to.
Spot on.
This is the part some just don’t understand. My freedom isn’t based on safety, convenience, or anything else. It’s God-given, guaranteed in the Constitution, and irrevocable.
FTFY.
More post hoc, ergo propter hoc from Glenn.
Looks like a totally ordinary epidemic bell curve to me. That chart is so choppy, and the n is so small, that it takes some serious confirmation bias to say that the lockdown worked.
I’ll paraphrase a quote from a podcast I heard recently: “If you only stand up for a principle when it’s convenient or easy then it isn’t a principle.” The example given was slavery. Today it’s really easy to say that you’re against slavery. In 1845 abolitionists in the Republican party were being threatened with lynching by *other Republicans against slavery* because they were rocking the boat too much. That’s the difference between principle and preference.
Shit, the CCP is in favor of free speech and freedom of assembly *within reason*. That’s hardly a principled stand for freedom.
What podcast is it from? I am intrigued to listen to that.
It is easy to view the past from today’s standards and judge what people did then. It is hard to have empathy toward people who were doing the best they could with what they had to work with.
Do you listen to Part of the Problem (Dave Smith)? That might have come from his interview with Jacob Hornberger, because I remember hearing the same thing recently.
I don’t, but I will now. Thanks for the tip.
I heard it on Your Welcome. Apparently Malice and Smith are doing cross-over podcast interviews. It’s working, because I’m definitely going to start checking Part of the Problem out now.
I heard it on Malice’s podcast where he’s doing a crossover series with Smith, in fact.
Hah! I’ve been listening to both of them. Love the crossover shows.
And Tom Woods.
Great. I will look into both of those. I have been a Tom Woods listener for some time, though I go through phases when I listen to podcasts vs books. I will check out both Malice’s and Smith’s podcasts.
Smith interviewed Massie on March 31. Malice interviewed Woods on April 1.
Both were really good.
Cool. I will lookup those episodes.
So I gots to ask. There’s a lot of opposition on this site to the lockdown.
Q1) What are your specific objections?
Q2) What state do you live in?
Q3) What would you have done instead if you were in charge?
Q4) Do you wear a mask? Why or why not?
Q5) Do you try to maintain social distancing? Why, why not, or when?
I’ll start.
A1) I don’t think a one size fits all policy is the right thing to do and the restrictions should be on a county by county basis for most places. Some states have gone overboard, like in Michigan. I worry about the precedent for future events.
A2) I’m CA.
A3) I’m not sure what I would have done differently, except maybe I’d start opening things up. That’s a tough thing for a politician to do because “People will die!” Sweden’s approach is interesting and maybe will pay off in the long term, and the long term is really the only way we should measure it.
A4) I wear a mask in the store, but not when I’m walking around outdoors. I know it’s not 100% effective, but maybe 10-20% here and there is enough.
A5) I’ve been social distancing most of my life.
1. That my nut-sucking governor declared himself king and decided to dunk on his political opponents while praising himself as ‘trying to save lives’. Also that people are sucking his nuts for doing it.
2. Ky
3. Recommended practices. implemented social distancing for state workers… you know the only workers the governor should be in charge of. Worked on sourcing PPE, tests, etc.
4. No. Don’t have any, don’t imagine they are easy to acquire. I don’t go out much anyway.
5. Yes, but I always did.
Q1) What are your specific objections?
Leaving aside the question of whether the State even has the legal authority to do it, the lockdowns were completely unjustified on pure policy grounds. See my rant above re Glenn Reynolds.
Q2) What state do you live in?
Arizona.
Q3) What would you have done instead if you were in charge?
Issued a set of recommendations for people and high risk businesses (restaurants and the like). Probably try to juice unemployment comp. Run a workgroup on health care system capacity and needs.
Q4) Do you wear a mask? Why or why not?
Its mandatory at work if I leave my office. In public, I wear one when I go into a place where it looks like they are somewhat prevalent. I’m torn between signalling support for the panic by wearing one, and wearing one because they help reduce transmission, so that’s my compromise.
Q5) Do you try to maintain social distancing? Why, why not, or when?
Yup. Because it helps reduce transmission. I don’t want to get sick, and I don’t want to make anyone sick.
I don’t want to get sick, and I don’t want to make anyone sick.
+1
I wish there was more acceptance by branch covidians that it is both possible to disagree with their positions and not want to kill granny.
A1: Violating the 1st, 2nd, 5th, and however any more amendments.
A2: NY
A3: I wouldn’t have even noticed, I’d be too busy enjoying my harem.
A4: I wear a for realsies mask at work since it’s what my employer wants, I wear my plague mask as a form of malicious compliance when I’m out in the world. So far the response has been encouraging. People don’t instictively recoil in horror when they see me now.
A5: Yes
“I wouldn’t have even noticed, I’d be too busy enjoying my harem.”
LOL
If you’re going to have dictatorial powers, and you don’t have a harem, there’s something wrong with you.
I like the way you think.
Q1) What are your specific objections?
-my rights are not contingent on normal societal operation. I don’t care if 90% of people are going to die, rights are rights.
-operating on naive statistical models is a recipe for failure, every time. Garbage in, garbage out. We’re seeing the results of that truism.
-the lockdowns aren’t even the right way to handle this issue, assuming that it’s as dire as the branch covidians say
-torpedoing the economy by carving up “essential” and “non-essential” companies is pur social engineering, and more than a little bit evil
Q2) What state do you live in?
Virginia
Q3) What would you have done instead if you were in charge?
-send guidelines to nursing homes and other high risk places recommending self-isolation
-send guidelines to retail establishments for ways to reduce transmission
-subsidize the use of courier and delivery services for at-risk populations
-waive all in-person requirements for government activity where it makes sense to do so
Q4) Do you wear a mask? Why or why not?
-no, because I’ve been out in public all of 2 or 3 times in the last 2 weeks, all to the gas station around the corner to grab a case of beer or a snack. Wife goes out more and she wears a mask. If I were doing more than a beer run, I’d at least wear gloves, if not a mask.
Q5) Do you try to maintain social distancing? Why, why not, or when?
-I don’t go out more than I have to, and I try to stay out of other people’s personal space. Honestly, I haven’t encountered too many people over the last month, so I don’t have a hard and fast rule. I’m certainly not out there cheek to jowl with people, but I’m not marking off 6 ft when I pass somebody on the sidewalk.
I can start with Q3, but am I the Prez or a Governor?
1P&G. Us the bully pulpit. Encourage voluntary work-from-home. Encourage social distancing, discourage large group gatherings. Encourage hand washing and masks. Discourage hoarding.
1G. Lock down senior living.
2P. Listen to Massie and instead of stimulus, pump 1/2 of 1% of that money into an intense testing program.
2G. Anyone tesitng positive gets quarantined. Using the tests from 2P, try to test as many people as possible that were in contact with the sick.
3G. Watch hospital utilization carefully…if numbers start to get strained, implement some mandatory policies. Not sure which ones, mostly aimed at vulnerable demographics (like 1G).
I think that is about it.
1. excessive knee jerk reaction and it is way to easy for incompetent politicians to just put the boot on ones neck. I understand the local arguments of undisciplined population and disastrous healthcare, but I am not sure I care that much.
2. Romania. In the mid-west you probably never been, flyover and such
3. Give some recommendations and maybe intervene where clear issues like huge crowds in tight spaces. Some early border controls.
4. Yes
5. Yes
for 3 I would add quarantine the ones who tested positive and some restrictions on people traveling from hotpots. depending, maybe some restrictions on the over 70 or sick.
2. I’ve flown over Romania on my way to Turkey, and I’ve seen plenty of Gypsies from my time in Europe.
Nobody has the right to tell me to shut down my business to my detriment. I mean, nobody has and nobody will, but they told other people and those other people did it. If they didn’t, they’d be forced at the point of a gun. Maybe not figuratively.
MO
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Nothing. Oh, well, maybe I’d have held a press conference that gave lip service to “we’re watching this,” made some noises about it being a new strain of flu we’ll have to learn how to fight, blamed the Chinese and run down a very specific and detailed list about why, but otherwise, said/done nothing.
No. Because I hate them but moreover, I don’t think it helps. I have been conscious of shaking people’s hands or touching people. I try not to breathe through my mouth. I try to be very conscious of whether I’m touching my face or not. I’m washing my hands a lot more.
The water fountains at the stores have all been shut down. I have a little portable collapsible cup I use when I’m caught out without a water bottle.
I don’t like people in my personal space anyway, but mandated 6 feet? Pffftt.
Mostly I’m angry about people’s lives and livelihoods just trashed by a freak thing. And by “freak thing,” I don’t mean the virus. I mean the government’s response to the virus. No, I don’t believe the response was a conspiracy to get ORANGEMANBAD. I think it took everybody by surprise because the whole world freaked out. I also think it took the proggy cuntes a little bit of time for them to figure out how to turn it to their advantage, but then they did and ran with it.
I feel for my KS compatriots. My governor tried to hold the line on closing shit down but he has a noodle spine and went forward with some things. KS governor went full Stalin. Maybe not Stalin. But close.
I don’t believe the response was a conspiracy to get ORANGEMANBAD.
The Dem operatives in media and the government were quite open when they were pushing the panic that they wanted this to be Trump’s Katrina moment. In those circles, at least, this was seized on as a useful crisis, but only if they could set off a nationwide panic. They succeeded.
My bad. I meant during the initial freak out.
Maybe they were faster than I thought they were. That was 6 weeks ago. I’ve tried to sleep since then.
Oh, also, which may or may not be relevant:
I am of the class of people who must go to work when sick. It’s easy for someone to say, “Stay home when you’re sick!” when your bills aren’t dependent upon that day’s pay.
I have never in a gazillion hourly no-bennies no-sick-time jobs ever had a boss who said, “You look terrible and you should go home,” offer to pay me for that day’s work in order to keep other people from getting sick. Clearly, they didn’t care that much.
This colors my reaction to this entire thing.
I feel compelled to contribute that in civilized Europe you would get paid sick days.
And be unemployed because it’s too expensive to hire people.
I’ll have you know that between Italy Germany and France they are hiring 500000 seasonal workers to pick fruit and vegetables. The hours are long the pay is small and you need a strong back though, so the locals are out.
Q1) What are your specific objections?
The state governments are being driven to take extreme measures by the blind fucking panic within the populace that results from the 24/7 bleating of the ratings-driven press (if it bleeds, it leaves). New York city is fucking petri dish designed to spread airborne pathogens. Rural Iowa not so much.
Q2) What state do you live in?
Iowa.
Q3) What would you have done instead if you were in charge?
Build a wall around New Your city (that’s always my answer). Set off a series of earthquakes to dump California into the sea (who said lex luther was the bad guy?). Encourage social distancing and the wearing of masks in public places to limit the spread of the commie cough elsewhere.
Q4) Do you wear a mask? Why or why not?
Not yet. A well fitted N95 mask might protect me. But I handle that by social distancing. A cloth mask will protect other people, but since I am not sick and rarely go out, I don’t expect that I am likely to infect anyone else.
Q5) Do you try to maintain social distancing? Why, why not, or when?
Yes, of course. 60+ years with asthma and obesity. I need to stay away from the young fuckers that will survive with few catestrophic cases.
1) Compulsory lockdowns without any semblance of due process is de facto house arrest and is anathema to any concept of individual liberty.
2) Colorado.
3) I would have said “It is unconstitutional and unethical for me to compel any kind of economic shutdown or stay-at-home order. However, this disease is potentially dangerous, especially to the elderly and those with preexisting health conditions. If you fall into those groups, or you’re just concerned about the disease, I urge you to minimize contact with other people who may have been exposed, avoid large gatherings and stay at home as much as possible.”
4) I do not wear a mask because I don’t believe they’re effective enough to justify it. And I’m just a stubborn cuss.
5) I do not encroach on people’s personal space in public anyway. I’ve perhaps been standing slightly further away than I normally would out of courtesy, but I’m not losing sleep over it.
1) You can sum up every Q1 answer so far to get my answer.
2) NH
3) Suggest people in at-risk groups take steps to protect themselves. Lobby to repeal legislation restricting the ability of the private sector to expand health care services. NH no longer has Certificate of Need laws, but still has some restrictions.
4) Except for the rally, no.
5) If a business or other private property owner wants me to do it, sure. Otherwise no.
Q1) What are your specific objections?
Declaring any business as non-essential and forcibly shutting them down.
Zero transparency and an unwillingness to admit that continuation of the shutdown was unnecessary.
Q2) What state do you live in?
Peoples’ Republic of Minnesota
Q3) What would you have done instead if you were in charge?
Brought in a couple of fucking economists as part of the team.
Q4) Do you wear a mask? Why or why not?
Yes, when I sand things.
Q5) Do you try to maintain social distancing? Why, why not, or when?
Yep. I don’t mind respecting personal space.
Brought in a couple of fucking economists as part of the team – that is mighty dangerous these days.
1) The lockdown is doing more damage then the disease. I would not be surprised at a closure rate of 25% or higher for bars and restaurants due to this. Hell, some are battening down now because the anemic take out that was allowed wasn’t providing enough to pay for the staffing and the like.
2) Ohio
3) I would have highly recommended that those in high risks groups practice self-isolation, and encouraged stores to enact policies to allow them either easier access to delivery/pickup or hours of shopping dedicated to them.
4) No mask, my immune system is usually a fairly good one. Plus I would need to shave off my beard for any mask to be worth while.
5) Any place that I wouldn’t be generally socially distancing (bars/breweries when they’re packed) is closed at this point. I was always generally aware of personal space before this. But now I need to hang back when trying to pick out produce because someone is sitting there hemming and hawing over which bunch of celery to pick up.
#4. You know who had facial hair that worked well with masks?
Abe Lincoln?
Ackshually, the classic toothbrush moustache favored by a certain Austrian is compatible with N95s.
Plus I would need to shave off my beard for any mask to be worth while.
An N95, yes. A surgical mask, no. N95s need to seal to your face to work better than a surgical mask. I laugh at most people who I see in public wearing N95s, because they haven’t been fitted and aren’t worn correctly. They are not comfortable to wear correctly, I’m told. I’ve never worn one, because I don’t need one and haven’t been fitted.
Surgical masks give some protection to the wearer against droplet transmission. Probably not a lot, depending on other behaviors, which is why full droplet precautions require both an N95 and a face shield. They give protection against droplet transmission to third parties, though.
Q1) What are your specific objections?
It’s economically ruinous and a violation of individual liberty, not to mention likely unconstitutional for all the good that’s ever done.
Q2) What state do you live in?
Merlin.
Q3) What would you have done instead if you were in charge?
Not closed bars and restaurants. Not closed schools. Not issued a lockdown order. Although, I will say Hogan pulled a slick move and got his Korean wife to make a couple calls, and next thing you know there’s a plane with 500000 tests landing at BWI from Seoul.
I would have advised people in vulnerable populations to self-isolate as much as possible. I would have requested that institutions where infection is a greater risk (either because of the populations involved or the likelihood of illness, e.g. schools, nursing homes) exercise particular caution. I would have offered state resources to support people who found it necessary to self-quarantine but who were financially unable to do so. Ignored the FDA and sourced tests from South Korea.
Q4) Do you wear a mask? Why or why not?
I wear a shemagh or a buff with a jawbone on it when I go to stores. It’s required by law now and I don’t want to get store owners in trouble. Also, if you *really* want me to wear a mask to go into a liquor store in a bad neighborhood at night, I’m gonna make it as suspicious as possible, because I’m a cranky asshole at heart.
Q5) Do you try to maintain social distancing? Why, why not, or when?
My personal space is pretty large anyway, so this is pretty normal for me. Again, though, this is in public. I was over at a friend’s house this weekend and sat a couple feet away on his patio for hours. Shook hands when I came over and when I left.
Q1) What are your specific objections?
The lockdowns are unconstitutional. They are also going to set a precedence that will only encourage statists to do it again and harder.
Q2) What state do you live in?
NJ until I escape
Q3) What would you have done instead if you were in charge?
Quarantine those who are actually ill. Provide extra resources to hospitals. Recommend stringent protocols for at risk populations such as nursing homes.
Q4) Do you wear a mask? Why or why not?
Only when I have to. it’s stupid. Healthy people should get this so it’s over and done with and we have some shared immunity.
Q5) Do you try to maintain social distancing? Why, why not, or when?
I try to be polite. When I see somebody clearly nervous about distance, I respect that.
NJ until I escape
If you’re the last one out, be sure to pull the pin.
Q1) I object to the creation and enforcement of arbitrary laws that weren’t created using legal means. Edicts created by governors that have criminal penalties are not legal. I believe that “bending the curve” requires at least some contact and transmission, as long as hospitals aren’t overwhelmed, so clamping down hard is counterproductive and is usually just done to satisfy someone’s power trip.
Q2) IN
Q3) I think a lot of the early panic was because we didn’t know much about the virus, and early reports were pretty scary. So I get the early reactions. I would have prioritized finding out as much as possible. How contagious is it? How deadly? Who’s at risk? How is it most likely to be transmitted? How many people will not have symptoms? Did some people have it before? As of now answering these questions is still not a priority. Without good information you can’t solve a problem, unless you just luck out.
Q4) I do not, but I work from home and haven’t been in close proximity to people other than family for weeks.
Q5) Yes. I believe it works and I don’t want to get sick or make anyone else sick.
I think a lot of the early panic was because we didn’t know much about the virus, and early reports were pretty scary. So I get the early reactions.
It took me approximately 5 minutes on Google when the first model was released to determine that it was utter crap. Prof. Ferguson has a long history of being catastrophically wrong, but his first model (you remember, the one projecting 2mm deaths in the US) was taken as gospel and was the seed of the panic and the justification for the lockdown.
I understand at one level why people panicked. At another level, I don’t, because it was obvious at the time there was no good reason to panic.
Q1) What are your specific objections?
Not only is it a violation of basic human rights, the one-size-fits all nature is creating significant and dangerous economic dislocations that endanger basic economic production such as food production, and services such as medical treatment.
What should have happened was that the government published warnings and any quarantines be executed at either the county level or below, tailored as narrowly as possible.
This would have permitted people to work out what was the optimal balance between safety and cost to apply to their daily activities.
Q2) What state do you live in?
The people’s republic of Massachusetts
Q3) What would you have done instead if you were in charge?
My goal would be to get us to the endpoint as quickly and painlessly as possible:
a) Most people have been infected and developed an immunity
b) The transmission rate to at risk population is limited to the point where they can be treated in hospitals without exhausting the capacity to treat people.
Here is what I think I would have done:
1) I would have declared a state of emergency.
2) I would have initiated a program of contact tracing for all infected.
3) I would have promulgated a series of lock-down conditions to be implemented at a town by town basis, or in areas of 50,000 people within cities.
The lock-down conditions would be on a sliding scale based on infection rates and medical capacity.
After it became apparent that for healthier, younger people this wasn’t a serious illness, I would have modified the edicts to encourage younger people to mingle (thereby spreading the disease amongst themselves, while encouraging at risk people to stay home.
4) I would have aggressively sought out regulations that were putting people at greater risk of infections, or were reducing the capacity of the medical system and suspended them (eg the certificate of need program that MA has to ensure that there is a shortage of medical care). I would have increased MBTA train and bus frequencies with a mind to reducing ridership percentages.
Q4) Do you wear a mask? Why or why not?
No. I am healthy and would prefer to get it sooner so that I can get over it and be able to see my mom again.
Q5) Do you try to maintain social distancing? Why, why not, or when?
Yes. But I’m not anal about it. Social distancing just reduces the likelihood of infection to a very low number. It does not guarantee that transmission won’t occur. Nor does brief violations meaningfully elevate the likelihood of transmission.
Q1) What are your specific objections?
Pretty much all the ones listed above. Unconstitutional, evil to rob or threaten your neigbors, crap data, etc.
Q2) What state do you live in?
GA
Q3) What would you have done instead if you were in charge?
Bully pulpit for self-determined isolation and guidance for nursing homes. See if there are any state policies that create perverse incentives and attack them.
Q4) Do you wear a mask? Why or why not?
Have not since this started, at all.
Q5) Do you try to maintain social distancing? Why, why not, or when?
Only under the banner of “be polite”. And for old folks (<60) I'd do even more so, for the same reason. If I were out and ran across the friends who you usually greet with a hug, I'd do that in a heartbeat.
1) Coercion over persuasion.
2) PA, rural as hell
3) In charge of what? This is the crux of the problem – the myth that anyone is in charge (and what that really means is in control). The expectation that someone must be in charge, and tell us what to do, that is why we are in the mess we are in.
4) I’ll wear one if a property owner makes it a condition of entry to their premises. The state isn’t going to make me wear one (not directly anyway).
5) I try to avoid most people normally, this is no burden.
So much this. Just like everyone talks about our “leaders”. Fuck I hate that. They aren’t there to lead. They are their to either represent us (legislature) or run the fucking government (governor/prez). Why is that so hard for people to understand?
Good for him:
Wildlife photographer Peter Beard was found dead Sunday in the woods near his home in Montauk, New York. He had been missing since March 31.
That’s how I want to go. Last night my extended family was exchanging panicky texts about the commie cough showing up in the local nursing home. I told them them that if I ever end up there, please come cough a contagious disease in my face, or hand me a pistol.
Now there’s a hero.
1. They’re killing the economy, putting people out of work, closing businesses for good.
2. MD
3. Open for business. Try to social distance if you can, people, wear a mask. (I’d even opt for the government buying and handing out masks). Stop all taxes until the end of the year.
4. Yes, if it might help, why not? I doubt it makes anything worse.
5. Yes. I hate people in general anyway and it was always best to stay away from most of them. (there really are Karens everywhere, you know?).
This. There are ways to minimize transmission and enlist the support of the people in doing so.
The knee-jerk reaction from a large portion of our leaders has been to immediately resort to force. That says more about them and their supporters than anything else could.
Wearing a mask is a minimal intrusion. Being forbidden to buy tomato seeds or travel is not.
Umm, the forbidden to buy seeds stuff didn’t work. All the cunte did was to defer taxes that could have been collected for her state. Go to any of the major seed company websites. They are sold out of almost everything that is popular with gardeners and many have shut down temporarily in a desperate attempt to restock.
I have more seeds that I have room to plant, so I’m all good. I did manage to get my hands on some pepper seeds that I’ve never tried before, like the tiny little Brazilian Biquinho and the New Mexico Hatch pepper that seems to be very popular around here. Anxious to try those out.
So what’s hilarious to me about closing the bars is that a.) that’s like half the Annapolis economy, and b.) the bars that are still open for takeout downtown are just handing out discount roadies to people, who are then nonchalantly strolling past parked police cars with vodka tonics in plastic cups and tall cans of Miller Lite because there aren’t enough cars in the APD to arrest all of them for violating open container laws.
I’ve heard from several people who work at bars that they’re planning on dumping the kegs when they can open again. Beer does go bad, and sitting in the lines isn’t good for the beer or the lines. A couple places are/were doing some stupid cheap prices on to go beers/growler fills. And then the board of health has “suggested” only filling new growlers, no refills. One place that was rolling with that was still doing $20 for a cheeseburger, side, new growler, and a fill of anything on tap (the burgers are usually $12 by themselves). One place that sold out of growlers said they would fill anything $5 domestic/$15 craft. One place that was out of crowlers started offering to go mason jars.
DeWine has allowed to-go cocktails now. With a food order, and a limit of two per entree. At least we still have our liquor stores (sorry PA!).
Our liquor stores (some) just reopened with curbside pick up.
I’m still stocked up comfortably.
I just got a Drizly order again. 15 minutes to my door. America is still great!
“So what’s hilarious to me about closing the bars is that a.) that’s like half the Annapolis economy”
You don’t have to visit Annapolis many times to see the clear evidence of that. And I suspect no one is doing any Naval Academy tours right now.
Yeah the “drinking town with a sailing problem” is a hokey line but if you sit on Main St. or West St. and just watch people walking around who are theoretically at work it’s like going to a zoo of functional alcoholics. The best is Midnight Mass, when all of the bars fill up with people in church clothes until 11:45, when they all empty, to be refilled around 12:45. The mayor owns three of them, FFS. In all seriousness, the economic ramifications of the shutdown are going to be really, really bad around here.
I don’t at all mind it being mostly a drinking town. I can respect that. It’s an honest thing. The real problems are typically found in the State House passing tax increases on filthy rich (AKA middle class) people, in the middle of the night on a holiday.
Brooksing’ HM here: It also doesn’t help that Trump shanked Massie in the back. That is an unforgivable sin according to my reckoning.
Whom pray tell do you think Trump wouldn’t shank? Maybe one of his spawn, maybe. But even then, if there was a ratings bump to be had, I wouldn’t put it out of the realm of the possible. Trump has absolute zero political loyalty to anyone or anything, but his own ego.
Worth reading:
“A lot of people have contacted me saying they hadn’t seen this story before and asking for more details. Like, how do I know that Cuomo wasn’t allowed to be out on April 12 or how do I know when he was diagnosed. I’m going to lay out the timeline in this thread.”
https://twitter.com/karol/status/1252612720467349508
I’m assuming the shanking had to do with the bailout bill (was there something else?). Leaving aside the merits of the bill, Trump supported it, Massie tried to block it with a procedural maneuver. What would you expect anyone to do if someone is blocking a bill they support?
No. Massie wanted his fellow congresscritters to go on record, so he wanted them to fucking vote.
He didn’t block anything. He did his fucking job and Trump hammered him.
Did he vote for the bill? I don’t recall.
We don’t know because they violated parliamentary procedure and refused to record a vote after the request was made.
He voted “no”, but it was a voice vote, so we just have his word for it.
So, he opposed the bill. He tried a parliamentary maneuver to at least delay the vote. I really don’t see a problem with Trump taking issue with a Congressman working against a bill he supports. Sure, I wish Trump hadn’t supported the bill, but that’s a separate issue.
Basic timeline:
nearly everyone went home. Massie stayed in DC. They asked for unanimous consent on the bill, he said no. Now, everyone had to come back to DC, at least enough for a quorum.
Once they had the quorum, they started debate. They refused to give Massie time because he was “at the end of the line” despite being one of the few who stayed in DC, so was near the front of line requesting time. They did a voice vote. He requested the vote be recorded (standard procedure, if you have ever watched c-span). They refused to record the vote and passed the bill.
Trump got to look like a forceful guy who cares about the folks while Massie got to look like the guy who cares about fiscal and economic responsibility. Considering their respective constituencies, it was a win for both of them.
There was a voice vote. A handful of nays. There is a funny story of Trump asking if it was unanimous and the GOP toadies kind of hemmimg and hawing.
Massie is hilarious. After the kerfuffle, Liz Cheney and Michael Turner make contributions to Massie’s opponent.
Now they want their money back!
You really can’t make this shit up.
Liz Cheney is a POS bar none.
In fact, the whole family is a bunch of shit-flinging war monkeys.
Massie is a hero.
Q1) What are your specific objections?
I don’t recognize the government’s authority to execute sweeping lockdowns. I understand quarantine/emergency situations are constitutional and support, but this is a dramatic stretch.
Q2) What state do you live in?
IA
Q3) What would you have done instead if you were in charge?
Guidelines for mitigating (self and others) including high risk groups, targeted guidance for high risk businesses/services/facilities/ including PPE where applicable. I realize it’s all the rage to yell “Trump sucks” but nearly every single item he outlined in early press conferences would have been on my agenda (cutting red tape, deregulation, requesting assistance from the private sector). All those items in-place, I’m aligned with Rick Santelli – let it run the course.
Q4) Do you wear a mask? Why or why not?
Not generally – I don’t have a mask that provides personal protection. I don’t have an issue with masks and actually plan to purchase an urban filtration mask when they are again available to mitigate allergies/dust/disease.
Q5) Do you try to maintain social distancing? Why, why not, or when?
I follow the guidelines outside of my home. From my perspective, social contract dictates that I should respect the space of others and the rules of any business I enter.
The Lockpicking Lawyer shares a skill that might actually be useful in our post-apocalyptic world:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm9K6rby98W8JigLoZOh6FQ
So enjoy the vids about organic farming (just kidding, it’s lockpicking).
fascism isn’t an ideology; it’s the actual phenomena that capitalist ruling classes resort to as capitalism decays & a counter socialist mvmt rises. fascism actually takes on a mixture of prevailing ideas that depend on the certain conditions in that society at that moment
https://mobile.twitter.com/marsquake/status/1252331915849367556
Interesting. Doesn’t seem to be what Mussolini was going after. But what did he know…
Mussolini was a socialist who eventually recognized many of the flaws that ideology. Fascism was his attempt at a fix. The Chinese leadership went through a similar change of mind since Mao went to hell.
Stupid people are stupid.
Twitter is so often the virtual equivalent of wearing a dunce cap. Tell me I”m wrong about that anywhere on that thread.
Fucking commies
Still pretending that fascism and communism aren’t flip sides of the same coin. They always resort to dialectical materialism and Marx’s science of history crap.
I have something in common with everyone commenting there: I have no idea what they are talking about.
If words have no meanings then fascism means whatever you want it to mean.
It’s just sophomore pot-talk.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BolshevikPotato/status/1252314910077280261
There is something so perfect about the fact that capitalism has violently killed millions in order to preserve its oil flow, and then due to its own contradictions it has made oil worth less than nothing.
God I hate capitalism
“PotatoBolshevik
@BolshevikPotato
I agreed with your point, partially, capitalism is better than what came before it. Although a lot of that can be attributed to industrialization.”
Is he arguing that industrialization was separate to capitalism? Hard to tell from a tweet.
Also, Count, are you related?
HEY! That’s MY shtick!
Ticked of Vic with a message for the government
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLcNStHTDjM
Dud’e gonna pop some capillaries in his forehead
So how does all the affect the elections this fall?
It is clear that the Karens of the world are driving state officials to put everyone under deep house arrest. The Karens are a significant block of voters that skew every heavily towards the Dems, and they hate Trump.
The blue-collar workers that gave Trump the election last time are likely taking it in the shorts because of Karen. I can’t see them blaming Trump for this. I see them as hardening their support from Trump.
So Karen is key. What will Karen think when the virus panic subsides, and she becomes aware that key parts of her life have been destroyed? The yoga joint is gone for good as well as the quaint coffee shop that she hits after the gym. The chain restaurants will survive to some extent, but the independents are boarded up.
Will Karen recognize she did this to herself? Or just double down on her hatred of all things Trump? Most importantly, will she have any influence on other group of voters?
Yes – Unless the Dems and their Karens are successful in their push for mail-fraud voting. Then the Dems win a 45-state landslide.
And everybody knows who Karen is and they already didn’t like her.
They didn’t learn last time. Michael Moore got unpersoned by the left for pointing out why Trump was going to win.
The Karens are incapable of learning from experience and won’t learn a damn thing no matter how this situation ends up.
Will Karen recognize she did this to herself?
If there is one thing you can be sure of with a Karen – she will have absolutely no self awareness about her actions.
Don’t worry. Karen will solve it by speaking with the manager.
If Suzie Rotten-crotch or her family are impacted she will take notice, and her vote at the polls won’t be for more social programs.
Karen will blame orangemanbad and the Deplorables, period. She is completely unable to comprehend that the protesters are trying to save her yoga place. She wants the State to be her Daddy and hand-wave away all the destructive effects of her desires, because she’s an emotional infant.
So Karen is really the new Julia.
I think it is way to early to have a handle on what may happen. We went from somewhat free to full on authoritarian in less than a month. Any analysis of the election is fantasy right now. Frankly, we don’t even know who the Dem nominee will be. Are they really going to run Biden? No chance. He literally can’t put a sentence together. It’s being covered up right now, but if/when the virus reaction dies down, he can’t hide anymore. Is he really going to debate Trump?
So here is my prognostication (worth about as much as the electrons I used to type it): Trump wins in a landslide because the Dems run either Cuomo or Newsome with a woman as VP and they get shellacked in the flyover states.
So Karen is key.
Pretty much my take. And Karen will break hard for the Dems, because they do that greasy “if it saves just one life” and “this is about your safety” schtick, and they support the kind of petty tyranny that the Karens just get so wet for.
I think this election has gone from pretty much in the bag for Trump with a good chance of Repub gains in the House and Senate, to being completely up in the air. Of course, I also think that this new opportunity for the Dems has got them thinking really hard about how to ditch Joe, who was the sacrificial lamb candidate, and who to replace him with. Biden won’t be the nominee. Probably “for health reasons”, but whatever.
Karen will break hard for the Dems
absolutely correct: the controlling controllers love the party of control
or, if you prefer
the fearing fearers love the party of fear
But didn’t they already? Turnout in swing states is key as usual. I suppose all this could increase the Karen turnout, but it seems as though the majority of Karen types probably voted last time (for Hilldog), so I’m not so sure. Any increase is likely countered by the number of people the Dems lost over the last 3 years and during this ‘crisis’.
I know of several (pretty hardcore) Democrats who have had a bit of an epiphany during this fiasco, ranging from “The response doesn’t match the risk” to “I have talked to several people who quit their job to get unemployment because they get more money. I can’t believe it!”. Whether that translates to Trump votes or not voting for the Dem candidate remains to be seen, but it seems to be a net positive for Trump.
Karen types probably voted last time
This is correct; as I like to say about many things bandied about here: it doesn’t move the needle
What do you thing could move the needle? Certainly the outcome is not decided yet.
karens won’t change a single electoral vote
WHO votes WHERE didn’t change
the karen situation is descriptive, but it’s nothing new; this is a useful discussion because it rejects the null hypothesis that Karens matter
outcome is not decided
right: the OP was about October; this is all speculation; maybe I’m missing your point ?
I’m just asking for your opinion. Not arguing with anything you said. I’m curious what you would think could move the needle? I agree that what matters is the swing states, and even more locally, the districts in those state that would swing. But i also don’t think the election is decided yet. It could go both ways. I’m just trying to think out what would move those populations to decide one way or the other.
I’ve said repeatedly that Trump would have no problem defeating any candidate the dems put forward.
Other that Carter, incumbents don’t lose. Note, Bush the first was basically running for Reagan’s fourth term. If Perot hadn’t run, Bush may have won that election.
Carter lost because people blamed him directly for the severe recession or blamed him for being completely fucking inept during a severe recession.
The Trump economy was booming until the states began shutting down their economies.
The only question is where people in swing states are going to place the blame for those shutdowns.
My guess, is that state officials will come off worse than Trump.
So, I still feel pretty confident Trump wins in the fall.
What do you thing could move the needle?
oh, that’s a fair question
WHO votes WHERE to move the needle is a ven diagram of issues and places
* who do people who lost jobs hold accountable?
* what do people believe happened with CV19 and whose fault is it?
* what sensibilities to people hold, what decorum do they expect?
* are people truly free trade or protectionist?
* are people comforted more by projected strength than principled consistency?
AZ, MI, WI, PA, NC, FL
My guess is that it is now, as it was before, unlikely Trump can run the swing state table, mostly because never-Hillary dems who sat out will return in the right districts all out of proportion to Republicans of any stripe. Sustaining 70k miracle bullets is remote; winning every purple state is even more remote.
* shrugs * Trump is a moron. Biden is a shill. I just vote for a divided Congress and hope for the best (the least).
that’s the ballgame
I’m having a hard time thinking that a mass panic, an overwhelming government response, and a recession won’t move the needle somehow.
Because I’m pissy today, I think they move the needle in the Dems’ direction.
Your point is well-taken, though – who and where the needle moves are what matters. And the Karens probably voted mostly for Hillary last time anyway.
As I said yesterday, Trump has given the Dems numerous opportunities to bury him, but they have not missed an opportunity to overplay their hand/act like idiots/alienate potential swing voters. Trump comes off as some evil genius, but in reality he’s the Washington Generals. Instead of playing the Globetrotters, however, his opposition is the Junior High C-team.
The Kung Flu was everything the Dems hoped for and more to torpedo Trump. But they’ve been unable to stifle their TDS insanity even for a few weeks and have come out looking even worse than before. Being so damn transparent with their motivation for trying to drag out the lockdown and their insane responses to the protests really do make them look like Marie Antoinette wannabes.
It doesn’t help that their presumptive candidate is quite literally losing his mind.
“NBS News tonight is bringing you the tragic story of the death of Presidential Candidate, former Senator Joe Biden. Around 5PM, Biden met with Hillary Clinton and a few of her associates for a strategy session. A few hours later, Senator Biden was found dead from several self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the back of the head.”
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/04/20/tfb-review-henry-lever-action-axe-410-cutting-down-non-nfa-competition/
*Lights the Suthen signal*
Goddam, that is just adorbs. If I wasn’t voluntarily self-isolating my checking account, I’d be tempted. Would probably be third on my list, behind a combat shotgun and a silencer for the M1A.
“voluntarily self-isolating my checking account” – so true.
We need a Glib survey: what recent purchases/expenditures would NOT have occurred if you knew about the economic shut-down?
Another freezer and enough meat to fill it.
That one actually sounds like a good idea. Especially given that Our Masters are taking a sledgehammer to our supply chain.
Freezers are hard to come by right now. Everybody is sold out.
Facebook marketplace, Craigslist, NextDoor, letgo, etc etc etc.
Got mine for $200. Excellent freezer and huge, but I am a fabulous forager.
I got spooked by the pork-processing plant closures and the possibility of a rise in meat prices. Still haven’t filled it because it’s GINORMOUS, but I’m getting there.
The new seats for the FJ Cruiser.
The new dining room set. Probably.
I was about to pull the trigger on a couple largeish house projects, so I was able to put them on hold for the time being. I’m still working, but you never know.
I’m still working, but you never know.
Same here. Its never too early to cut back during a recession.
Nothing, fortunately. I *was* thinking about getting some electronics stuff that I wanted, but didn’t pull the trigger before the Great Freak-Out™ occurred. Same with some bookcases from IKEA (Swedish for “we’re closed indefinitely due to the Great Freak-Out™”), and possibly a shotgun purchase. That last is going to be difficult for awhile, since most places selling long guns around Edmonton appear to have had a run on stock during the run-up to and early days of the Great Freak-Out™.
That gold-plated fleshlight with the Swarovski crystal exterior was probably overkill.
I regret nothing. I have put a hold on my impulse buying stuff though.
Pretty, but I think I like the Mossberg Shockwave better. Pump is easier to handle than lever on a short platform like that.
Why? That gun seems like the answer to questions never asked.
A lot of coin for a fun gun, but I will own a Henry at some point. Likely a .22 or possibly the .45 colt. They are beautiful and apparently function like snot on a brass doorknob.
Right now the guns I want most is a pair of Henry lever .410 gauge shotguns. I cant think of anything that would be more fun….or useless. But hey, the heart wants what the heart wants.
A lot of afternoons could be whiled away shooting clays with those.
I mean the full stock, longest barrels. Not the sawed off boat anchor Sean linked above.
Hmmm, now that you mention it, I could see myself carrying one while walking a logging road and ground-swatting grouse (ruffed or spruce, both are dumb as sticks).
Yes Sir. An excellent bird gun.
LGS had a couple on the rack (or did, last time they were open).
It’s cute, but waaaay down the list
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11446602/man-24-sets-himself-on-fire-coronavirus-lockdown-india/
wut
There’s hope yet.
De Blasio’s social distancing tip line flooded with penis photos, Hitler memes
I can believe that last one, it just sounds like something he’d do.
Can you call/text NYC’s 311 if you’re not in the city?
I was thinking maybe the tip line was a separate, regular number but of course the article doesn’t say.
The civil liberties lobby is a menace
https://mobile.twitter.com/cw3263/status/1252595696118759426
Now that’s a Karen
https://tinyurl.com/y9g83jt9
https://mobile.twitter.com/RadioAnarchy17/status/1252598002918797312
Is it just me or street prostitutes in memes look better than the ones on the well… streets
Huh, I just figured all the Romanian street hookers looked like Catrinel Menghia for some reason.
https://www.oktoberfest.de/en/magazine/oktoberfest-news/2020/cancelled-corona-oktoberfest-2020-cannot-take-place
Oktoberfest seems overrated anyways
I never thought I’d say I was hoping Germans would start marching through the streets, but . . . .
You know who else… oh fuck it too easy.
Putsch your beer down and wait for the virus to vanish.
We can push this fuhrer but only at the risk of a very narrowed gaze.
Well… there went alternate vacation plans.
The summer Europe trip was already cancelled on us, if flights opened back up, I was contemplating floating that idea. Maybe the New England road trip is all that will be left. Assuming you guys open up there by fall.
Just because Munich cancelled doesn’t mean everybody will cancel. I had a great time at a village near the then-East German border back in the day at their Oktoberfest.
We’re still planning Maine in July, but…
I had planned to go to an arts festival in PA in July. Festival cancelled.
Hell, I’ve had a bike ride cancelled in August already.
And as I think about this more. This is the part that’s just crushing me. No idea when it’s going to end, when there’s going to be some sense of normalcy, no idea when I can plan vacations again. Shit, should I plan on not being able to go to Viva next spring already? They’ve already rolled my hotel stay from this year to next, will they be doing that again? It’s the uncertainty that’s just grinding me down.
Wife and I wanted to do Maine this summer also. Maine, Vermont, and NH are the only 3 lower 48 states I’ve never been to. Have to compete the tour.
NNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
They cancelled this:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/62/c2/2c62c257b1b72a2c03b942245244b04e.png
It seems everything I hear about the Germans is bone-crushingly stupid.
Stillhunter – I wanted to reply to you on the dead thread about the distinction you made between prosperity and liberty. I agree with you 100% and let me offer this bit of castor oil which is a summation of an article I’ve been working on that isn’t quite finished, but fuck it.
For decades I heard a ton of smart people say about US foreign policy that you can’t export democracy/liberty to cultures with no history of those ideas. It’s why Iraq didn’t suddenly blossom into a functioning republic after we toppled Saddam, and neither did _________ (fill in the blank of any of the places we invaded or bombed, or dictators we deposed – from Afghanistan to Libya to Syria and on and on and on.) Assuming that is true, I would submit to everyone here that the exact same thing is also true of the United States. The US military couldn’t “impose” or “assist” or “develop” Freedom here for the exact same reasons.
You can’t “give” someone self-governance; Freedom/Liberty isn’t a ladder – at best it’s a rope that one must be (a) willing to climb, and (b) have the capacity to do so. When enough Americans can climb that rope, it will return. Two centuries of public school indoctrination in obedience has worked wonderfully at sapping the spirit of “rugged individualism” that is required for Liberty to be the norm. That doesn’t mean that we can’t reclaim that cultural heritage, but it won’t happen here until enough people value freedom enough for it to be the default position of the electorate.
There, now I don’t have to write that article.
P.S. Whenever I get depressed about the state of Liberty, I always read this. I consider it among the best essays ever written in English. We here can all do our part of Isaiah’s job.
It isn’t about two centuries of public school bullshit. My father studied Latin and not as part of a “college prep” curricula. The degradation of public education is a post-WWII phenomenon, and even more specifically, post-60s.
This is the kulturkampf – the abnegation of the independence of the individual, the neutering of the American spirit – that the “intellectual class” (and never has there been a more pseudo use of that term) has been fighting. All in the name of making us better, as individuals and as a society. All that is required of each of us is to resist that. Like a paper tiger, they seem more powerful than they actually are.
Thanks for that. I will read it when I haven’t self-medicated with beer and rye. Sorry about the article. Hopefully you still write it.
Also, I wanted to say the story of your friend in the ME was poignant. As someone whose father and grandfather served (though neither saw combat) I appreciate the sacrifice made by those in the military, even (especially?) when it seems to be somewhat in vain. I made that point in the letter to my state legislators when I wrote them last week, saying it is beyond the pale that so many died to secure and preserve our freedoms, yet we are so quick to discard them.
Juris – I don’t think we disagree in principle, more on the minor details. But public mandated education goes back to before the start of the country – the Old Deluder Satan Act of the Puritans was intended to ensure that children had the ‘proper’ education necessary to not be led astray… particularly by those feckin’ papists. I would agree with you that at least until after WWI people in rural Alabama were still taking latin – I know because my friend showed me his grandmother’s report card from somewhere around that time.
I would argue, however, that as long as it was govt controlled, it always had this flaw baked into it. Back then, however, the Nation (and education specifically) hadn’t been culturally overrun by the post-rationalists/post-modernists. Maybe we could compromise and agree the late 30’s is when it started going shitty. 😉
Coronavirus patient to protestors
You’re experience bestows neither morality nor authority to your opinion.
Better advice would have been “Don’t be a lardass like me”
I can see one high-risk co-morbidity just from the photos.
That’s what I thought too.
hElThEe At AnY sIzE!
Having survived ‘rona, my money is on da beetus next.