Saturday evening links of weariness

by | Apr 25, 2020 | Daily Links | 341 comments

OrangeManBad said this will work.

 

I wonder if Trump realizes he’s been played, yet? He should have never shut down the whole country.

 

Please, lord, let the SMOD come now.

 

Straight to beheading.

 

Or, she had dirt on the Clintons.

 

OMWC misses those days.

 

Wait…whut??? Sometimes people really boggle the mind. It helps? We must get rid of it.

 

The best timeline. I wonder who the nominee is going to be?

 

And on a good note. I’ve eaten there twice in the last week.

 

I’m in the mood for a Saturday evening melody.

And a bonus track I stumbled across.

About The Author

Spudalicious

Spudalicious

Survey says I’m a Paleolibertarian bitches. That means I eat “L”ibertarians for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Soave tastes a little fruity. Wait a minute, that doesn’t sound quite right…

341 Comments

  1. Count Potato

    “A paleontologist says time travelers would not survive long in this predator-packed area of Africa 100 million years ago.”

    Most people wouldn’t survive long in Africa now.

    • Count Potato

      “An international team of scientists led by paleontologist Nizar Ibrahim of the University of Detroit Mercy and the University of Portsmouth in the UK conducted a wide-ranging survey of the creatures and geology of an area in southeastern Morocco called the Kem Kem Group.

      “This was arguably the most dangerous place in the history of planet Earth, a place where a human time-traveler would not last very long,” Ibrahim said in a University of Portsmouth release on Friday. Some of the largest predatory dinosaurs ever discovered once roamed the region.”

      Show me Nizar Ibrahim, and I’ll show you someone who has never been to Baltimore.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Book Haram > T. Rex or any other carnivorous dinosaur.

    • Derpetologist

      The most dangerous animal in Africa is the mosquito.

      The mosquitoes run Africa. There are merely a few places where they allow people to live.
      -joke I heard while there

      Mcheko means joke in Swahili. It comes from the verb kucheka, meaning to laugh. Mchekeshaji means comedian. The literal meaning is laughter-causing-person.

      The grammar is hard, but it’s very systematic.

      A joke I heard there:

      Two cars are traveling down a road, one in front of the other. The one in front stops suddenly and the other rear ends it. The drivers both get out, mad as hell. The one who was in front says “why weren’t you looking where you were going?!” The one who was behind says: “why weren’t you going where you were looking?!”

    • C. Anacreon

      Most people wouldn’t survive long in Africa now.

      I would have liked to at least try to find out. Our photo safari in Botswana would have started ten days from now, had it not been canceled by Lil’ Rona.

      *sigh* fingers crossed for next year

  2. Nephilium

    Jersey Mike’s has had a tradition of doing charity donations, as does Firehouse Subs.

  3. juris imprudent

    Wrong side of the African continent – there weren’t even any libertarians in pre-historic Morocco. The libertarian paradise of Mogadishu is clearly the most dangerous place that ever existed.

  4. Count Potato

    “Fearing a run on nicotine gum and patches, France has banned the online sale of the products — a move spurred by reports of a lower-than-expected number of smokers among those hospitalized with the coronavirus.

    In addition to the online ban, French authorities are limiting people who purchase the smoking cessation products at pharmacies to one month’s supply only, BBC.com reported.

    Smokers who do get infected tend to have more serious symptoms; still, a Paris hospital is now testing the theory that nicotine could play some role in blocking infection, the report said.

    Patients at the Parisian hospital are being given nicotine patches in the study.”

    It could be one of the other things in tobacco smoke.

    • Nephilium

      So can we have them start testing with vaping?

      • Count Potato

        I read a couple of papers that PG can kill flu viruses. I know it can kill bacteria. No idea about the corona virus.

        So better test might be to vape max VG. Then again, who knows, glycerine might have an effect too.

    • Jarflax

      The world is full of vindictive assholes hell bent on running and ruining other people’s lives.

    • Rhywun

      Gum and patches are not smoking.

    • Grosspatzer

      Breaks legs, provides crutches. Sounds like garden variety government to me.

      • Spudalicious

        Breaks legs, sells crutches.

      • Grosspatzer

        Good point. I was referring to people’s socialist government, not capitalist running dogs.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        OK so breaks legs, announces that crutches are a human right, takes all your money, creates crutch shortage, imposes crutch rationing.

  5. Grosspatzer

    Fearing a run on nicotine gum and patches, France has banned the online sale of the products — a move spurred by reports of a lower-than-expected number of smokers among those hospitalized with the coronavirus.

    I’m going long on Galoises.

    • westernsloper

      My smoke of choice in some parts of the world.

  6. Grosspatzer

    Saudi Arabia abolishes flogging

    This is problematic. It gets lonely out in the desert.

    • sloopyinca

      The Cure vs Depeche Mode: you decide.

      I’m opting for The Cure, but it’s pretty close to being a tossup. Violator was a fantastic album.

      • sloopyinca

        Also, Joy Division/New Order was better than both. So were The Smiths, although Morrissey’s solo stuff isn’t nearly on the same level as any of the aforementioned bands.

        Don’t @ me.

      • Rhywun

        Agree on all counts. I hardly listen to Depeche Mode any more but the others are frequently in the mix, esp. New Order.

      • C. Anacreon

        Late 1980s we were in the parking lot going to a Grateful Dead show. My Deadhead buddy’s wife that he dragged along, who did not like the Dead but loved New Wave, heard one of the ubiquitous “dirty Deadheads” walking around with a finger up saying “I Need a Miracle,” (the title of a Dead song, and the understood parlance that they were hoping a passerby would offer them a free ticket to the show, which apparently worked more than you’d think). Buddy’s wife responded, “Yeah, I need a miracle too. I need this to turn out to be a Depeche Mode concert.”

      • Count Potato

        Not a big fan of the Smiths. Morissey could only sing two notes.

        I love Joy Division and some New Order.

        Depeche Mode was way better than The Cure. Vince Clarke is an amazing synth player. Even after he left, Black Celebration and its remixes is some of the best music ever produced — largely due to Gareth Jones.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orKRfrbyOPc

      • sloopyinca

        He only had to sing two notes because Johnny Marr is a fucking God.

      • sloopyinca

        Which is part of the reason why Electronic is the best supergroup of all time.

      • Rhywun

        I recall oboes in a few “new wave” acts – Modern English and a-ha come to mind.

      • sloopyinca

        It’s a good song. And then at 3:06 in it has one of those rarest of rare “oh my God, this is absolutely beautiful” moments that simply don’t happen often in music.
        Make fun of me if you want, I don’t care. That’s absolutely one of the most beautiful music moments of the 80s-90s.

      • sloopyinca

        @rhywun
        Yeah, but those were forgettable relative to how it just grabbed you in that song and made you stop what you were doing so you could admire it.

      • Rhywun

        I never make fun of people’s taste in music. We all have our moments of delight. Except an ex who had no interest in music – that’s was just fucking weird.

      • sloopyinca

        I hope she was deaf. That’s the only way someone not liking any music could make sense.

      • Rhywun

        He did ask me to make him a Bon Jovi CD once.

        He’s from Malaysia. I’m guessing they don’t get access to anything but garbage like that.

      • sloopyinca

        Man, that’s brutal. Music is such an integral part of my life I couldn’t imagine even trying to have a relationship with somebody who didn’t at least like something. Hell, it could even be new country. Anything is better than nothing.

      • LemonGrenade

        @sloopyinca – my kids were raised with music, and apart from listening to it, daddy played the trumpet and son is already following in daddy’s footsteps. One of the family friends we made never listened to music, even for background, which we could never understand. They took their daughter in to start music lessons (I guess they realized there was something lacking there) and when the teacher asked her what kind of music she liked, she burst into tears and said she didn’t know any. I can’t imagine not having music as at least a supportive background/soundtrack.

      • Rhywun

        Yeah, I was surrounded by music growing up. That helps.

      • LemonGrenade

        My parents made me at least take piano lessons and my husband went to state competitions for the trumpet. We both consider music a basic part of being civilized. Now, when the speakers start blasting around 6, the kids know mom is cleaning up the kitchen and cooking dinner, and they can join in and help and get brownie points, or not, but momma’s gonna get her dance on.

  7. westernsloper

    OMWC misses those days.

    *snort*

    • Jarflax

      Fake news. OMWC was miserable for about 99,000,000 until the first human girl reached age 6, or as he likes to call it “her prime.”

  8. Grosspatzer

    From the Daily Snooze bleach story:

    “To be clear, disinfectants are not intended for ingestion either by mouth, by ears, by breathing them in any way, shape or form,” New York City Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot tweeted. “Doing so can put people at great risk.”

    Unlike, say, holding Lunar New Year celebrations as if nothing unusual was happening.

    • Nephilium

      Isn’t alcohol a disinfectant?

      /takes a sip of beer

    • Gustave Lytton

      +1 worlds largest community potluck

    • Rhywun

      What a garbage paper they have become. Someone there needs to look up the word “troll”.

  9. The Late P Brooks

    I’m going long on Galoises.

    I prefer Gitanes

  10. Gustave Lytton

    I wonder if Trump realizes he’s been played, yet? He should have never shut down the whole country.

    When did he do that?

    • Spudalicious

      He didn’t but he said that he did and that’s all that was necessary.

    • LemonGrenade

      He didn’t. The fucking governors (with the exception of a few, like the hottie in SD) did this to us, with varying degrees of petty tyranny thrown in. Trump will be blamed for it anyway, especially for as long as the national social distancing guidelines are in place. Because recommending people work from home if they can and avoid crowded places is exactly the same as the governors turning around and ordering businesses to shut down, and people locked in their homes. He made them do it, don’t you see? That’s how the press will spin it anyway.

  11. westernsloper

    Charles Bradley doing Black Sabbath is the awesome.

  12. Stinky Wizzleteats

    “ A spike in New Yorkers ingesting household cleaners following Trump’s controversial coronavirus comments”

    Bullshit.

    • J. Frank Parnell
      • C. Anacreon

        Also, how many called after doing no such thing, and just hoping a story exactly like this would make the news? There’s no law against lying to Poison Control.

  13. Nephilium

    Alright. Due to popular demand Happy Hour tonight, starting at 20:00 Eastern. If anyone who has signed up for a Zoom account is interested in sharing hosting duties, I can make a recurring meeting with alternate hosts. Reach out at my handle at Google’s mail.

  14. Rhywun

    Wait…whut??? Sometimes people really boggle the mind. It helps? We must get rid of it.

    Looks like the government is preparing to hoard those products for itself.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Speaking of hoarding, I guarantee that government agencies of all levels are sitting on PPE and trying to acquire even more. Even if it just sits in a warehouse and rots for the next thirty years. This prioritized for government and hospitals on Amazon is total bullshit. Those products are just as much in need and demand from end consumers. Let them buy disinfectants and masks and thermometers. Online retailers are in much better position to voluntarily limit the number of products sold to a specific person over a period of time rather than the asinine 1 per customer in stores (where the same person can walk right back in or drive to the next store and repeat). And they would have a better idea of the scope of demand to pass to manufacturers and distributors.

      • Count Potato

        “Those products are just as much in need and demand from end consumers.”

        I find it very frustrating. I have a real need, but Amazon won’t sell me gloves and masks.

    • mikey

      Finally, someone clearly and plainly speaking the truth.
      All has been made clear..

  15. The Late P Brooks

    It might not even make you sick. That’s why it’s so scary

    Two coronavirus studies released Friday — one involving almost 2,000 people from Florida and the other from a Washington state nursing home — came to the same conclusion: Many of the people who tested positive for the virus didn’t know it they had it because they showed no symptoms.
    The findings add to a growing body of evidence suggesting that people who don’t feel sick are contributing to the spread of the deadly virus that has swept the world.

    ——-

    Gimenez said this appears to mean a significant number of his constituents were carrying the virus while being asymptomatic. He emphasized that imposing social distancing requirements has worked.
    For that reason, Gimenez said any reopening strategy will require strict rules regarding social distancing with police enforcement of those rules.

    “Identifying the number of asymptomatic individuals is critically important for public health,” Gimenez said. “Like I have said before, those are the folks who can pass on the virus to the most vulnerable.”

    I, uh… Yeah. I read stuff like this and think we’ve been bamboozled. The whole thing was grotesquely over-hyped. Apparently, that’s not the reaction they’re looking for.

    • Sean

      “Police enforcement.”

      Go fuck yourself Gimenez.

    • westernsloper

      It is infuriating. And nothing will happen to those who over-hyped it. IHME and the rest of the fake scientists.

    • cyto

      That’s brilliant.

      And sooooo very close to reality. Even Reason went full tard with “Yes, Trump did suggest that people inject bleach”.

      • Count Potato

        Reason went full retard ever since Trump won the primaries.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Come and see the devastation! Gaze in awe and terror!

    “We weren’t always able to pinpoint where all the cases were coming from,” said Annette Chambers-Smith, director of the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction. As the virus spread, they began mass testing.

    They started with the Marion Correctional Institution, which houses 2,500 prisoners in north central Ohio, many of them older with pre-existing health conditions. After testing 2,300 inmates for the coronavirus, they were shocked. Of the 2,028 who tested positive, close to 95% had no symptoms.

    “It was very surprising,” said Chambers-Smith, who oversees the state’s 28 correctional facilities.

    As mass coronavirus testing expands in prisons, large numbers of inmates are showing no symptoms. In four state prison systems — Arkansas, North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia — 96% of 3,277 inmates who tested positive for the coronavirus were asymptomatic, according to interviews with officials and records reviewed by Reuters. That’s out of 4,693 tests that included results on symptoms.

    The numbers are the latest evidence to suggest that people who are asymptomatic — contagious but not physically sick — may be driving the spread of the virus, not only in state prisons that house 1.3 million inmates across the country, but also in communities across the globe. The figures also reinforce questions over whether testing of just people suspected of being infected is actually capturing the spread of the virus.

    Deadly. Unimagineably so. No one escapes. Hide, while you still can.

    • Nephilium

      The initial press conference has essentially been forgotten. No one realizes that if we had over 100,000 infected back in March, with under 700 deaths, then this really isn’t that dangerous of a disease.

      • westernsloper

        Except for the elderly which also known. As far as I know, one Governor took major actions to secure assisted living facilities. What’s her name in SD. Here, Polis ordered all homes to submit a plan on 1 May on how they will stop the spread. Something horse something barn. Over 60% of deaths have been in care facilities here.

      • Nephilium

        They’ve been testing the prisons here in Ohio, and finding that quite a few of the inmates are testing positive.

        /loads that up as ammo against any law and order types who think the lockdown is a good idea

      • hayeksplosives

        With so many positive tests, couldn’t this be a very common virus already well spread through the world, and maybe there’a one new strain that’s a little worse, but they all show the antibodies?

      • Count Potato

        No one has any fucking idea.

    • Rebel Scum

      asymptomatic — contagious but not physically sick — may be driving the spread of the virus

      Ya think? It also suggests that the virus is not even close to being as deadly as you people seem to want it to be.

      IOW it ain’t exactly the bubonic plague.

      • westernsloper

        Ya, I have seen that one before. Excellent.

      • dontreadonme

        That is funny. Needed to show the wife asking, ” so how was your day?”.

      • westernsloper

        Holy crap, watch the cornices dude.

    • dontreadonme

      WTF was that?! I have ridden trials and open downhill and would never try that shit. Just wow. And the forward flip at the fence? This man is a god.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    “It’s what makes the pandemic more difficult to manage,” said Marc Stern, former medical director for the Washington State Department of Corrections and a faculty member at the University of Washington’s School of Public Health. “There are a whole lot of people who are asymptomatic.”

    Don’t give up the narrative! It’ll kill us all!

  18. The Late P Brooks

    Asymptomatic carriers. How is that different from the (regular) flu or any other disease?

    • mikey

      THIS ISN’T THE FLU!!!!!!!
      Haven’t you been paying attention?

      BTW our beloved govenor says restaurants can open on Monday but have to close at 10:00 – the virus only comes out at night you know.

      • Nephilium

        I thought it mostly came out at night… mostly.

      • Hyperion

        “he virus only comes out at night you know.”

        That’s when it jumps out to getcha! Like da debil! Science!

      • Trigger Hippie

        It doesn’t rule the night. It doesn’t rule it. Nobody does.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      That’s a good question, it’d be nice if they’d put it into perspective.

    • Hyperion

      That will probably make you retarded, so there’s a trade off.

      • LJW

        Not full just Forest Gump level. Can’t be all that bad it will give super human speed and ping pong abilities.

      • westernsloper

        I like shrimp.

      • Derpetologist

        Gump’s IQ of 75 should have kept him out of the military, unless he was one of McNamara’s Morons.

        ***
        At various times in its history, the United States military has recruited people who measured below specific mental and medical standards. Those who scored in certain lower percentiles of mental aptitude tests were admitted into service during World War II, though this experience eventually led to a legal floor of IQ 80 to enlist.
        ***

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_100,000

        I can’t help but be annoyed by the many cases of people getting waivers for test scores and criminal records, but 1 inch too many on the waist? “Fuck you, fatso! Too much pie, that’s your problem.”

        [sobs while eating potato chips]

      • The Hyperbole

        So all the draft dodgers had to do was tank a test? Why’d they pull the conscientious objector, bone spurs, or my dad’s a senator shit?

      • Rhywun

        Or load up on carbs.

      • Grosspatzer

        There were deferments for college students, too. Coincidentally, there may have been a major increase in enrollments right about then.

      • Derpetologist

        Interesting point, Hype.

        I guess a lot of people just can’t bring themselves to pretend to be retarded. It’s a hard act to keep up.

        Or maybe it’s a Catch-22 thing: only a non-retarded person would pretend to be retarded to get out of the draft.

      • Derpetologist

        In the Odyssey, Odysseus tries to get out of going to war by plowing a beach to prove he’s crazy. The authorities put is baby son in his way, and when Odysseus didn’t hit his son, they knew he was sane.

        ***
        After Paris took Helen to Troy, Agamemnon sent Palamedes to Ithaca to retrieve Odysseus, who had promised to defend the marriage of Helen and Menelaus. Odysseus did not want to honor his oath, so he plowed his fields with an ass and an ox both hitched to the same plow, so the beasts of different sizes caused the plow to pull chaotically. Palamedes guessed what was happening and put Odysseus’ son, Telemachus, in front of the plow. Odysseus stopped working and revealed his sanity.[2]
        ***

      • dontreadonme

        Can’t reply to your comment below, but Odysseus was the first total badass. Farmer, generous king, loving husband, and so loved by his dog Argos that succumbed only after his master arrived home after 10 years….sure sign of a good person. And then killed all the douches who lived off his wealth and sought to fuck his still smoking hot wife. Yeah. Total badass.

  19. Derpetologist

    some nuggets of gold from the book mentioned in the last thread

    ***
    “By a series of calculations which need not be here explained, Colonel Cole has concluded that the individual weights carried within the legions were as follows:

    Total for road marching 57.21 lbs.
    Total for approach march 44 lbs.
    Tactical load in combat zone 33 lbs.”

    “Fundamentally only two great novelties have come out of recent warfare. They are: (1) mechanical vehicles, which relieve the Soldier of equipment hitherto carried by him; (2) air supply, which relieves the vehicle of the road.”
    ― S.L.A. Marshall, The Soldier’s Load and the Mobility of a Nation
    ***

    Keegan said the most important innovations in warfare were horses and guns.

    and for no reason at all, Lindy Beige on the most common weapon in war- the spear

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XuhoFszfe8

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Excellent channel

    • Hyperion

      We could just say projectile weapons and then horses. That would pretty much cover it.

      • Derpetologist

        I always thought the main lesson of David and Goliath was the superiority of ranged weapons vs. melee ones.

        On the flipside, the Romans with their short swords made mincemeat of the Greeks using super long spears. The Romans in turn got their asses kicked by the horse archer Huns.

        But the horse archer Lakota and others were defeated by the rifleman.

    • Ted S.

      He forgot canned food.

      • Derpetologist

        Hackworth read Marshall’s books when he was a kid and looked forward to meeting him. He was disappointed.

        That said, I think Marshall’s main conclusions are correct. Historically, a lot of soldiers did not fire their weapons in combat. At Gettysburg, thousands of rifles were recovered, many of which had been loaded multiple times.

        https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/almost-every-rifle-recovered-at-gettysburg-was-fully-loaded-and-no-one-knows-why

        Marshall knew why. It’s a shame he ruined his own credibility to sell more books.

        I’ve never read Marshall’s books. I liked Audie Murphy’s autobiography a lot.

        The Union fired about 1,000 rounds per Confederate killed or wounded. That stat led to the founding of the NRA. That ratio went up to 5,000 in WW2 and it’s about 20,000 today.

        Better to waste bullets than to waste men.

      • creech

        An analyst once calculated that, at Gettysburg, the 20th Maine and 15th Alabama fired about 20,000 shots at each other, at fairly close range, and achieved about 400 KIA and wounded.

      • Ted S.

        Still more accurate than the cops….

      • Fourscore

        We could have solved the problem in VN with a new Mercedes, a Playboy subscription and a case of scotch per enemy combatant. Far cheaper that what we actually spent.

    • Ozymandias

      I think a list of the Top 10 most important “innovations” in war would have to include the tactics that changed to match the technology, from the square to the double envelopment, the archer to negate the spear then cavalry followed by the longbow (English longbowmen were detested by knights and if caught… well, that didn’t end well) and on and on it goes through the machine-gun and then the tank at the Somme, artillery, then ship-fired guns, and then aviation turned all hell loose.

      Until you have called in, seen, or fired some of the “big boys,” it’s all nice and academic; I can tell you that after I watched the USS New Jersey fire three individual “turret salvos” (each of the three-gun turrets firing their 16″ guns simultaneously – and yes, it does scoot the ship back a bit in the water), all I could think was, “Dear God, what have we wrought?” Yet I high-fived when I “shacked” a tank hulk with my first hellfire missile in 29 Palms.

      The devastation that we can unleash on other human beings is really beyond comprehension until you see it.

      • DEG

        each of the three-gun turrets firing their 16″ guns simultaneously – and yes, it does scoot the ship back a bit in the water

        Maybe a fraction of a millimeter.

      • Ozymandias

        It may be the vibration/force reverberating through the steel hull, but you can watch the water on the opposite side of where the guns fire – it may well be an optical illusion – but I was a midn on the Jersey for the summer of ’88 and the CO (Capt. D.J. Katz, who was a ringknocker and went on to make flag) made sure we got to see them fire more than once. (It probably had something to do with the fact that his son – a first class mid from Canoe U as well – was on board). The gunners mates in the turrets told us to watch from up on the O6 level – perhaps that’s the origin of that claim. I think somewhere I’ve got a promo picture of a broadside signed by the CO from that summer, but I don’t know if I still have my official cannoncocker card, for climbing through one of the 16″ guns. Yes – I could fit back then – but holy shit, it was really uncomfortable when they capped the end for giggles. And I’m not claustrophobic, either… but ewww… Man, makes my skin crawl thinking about it.

      • Derpetologist

        Fun fact that many here probably already know: during the 100 Years’ War, English longbowmen killed so many French knights, that the French king ordered that any Englishman captured should have his right middle finger cut off so he could never fire a bow. When the English found out about this, they began taunting the French by waving their middle fingers at them, a gesture which survives to this day.

        Dappy English kuh-niggets!

        Archaeologists can identify archers because the bones of their left arms are noticeably bigger. A longbow had a draw weight of about 150 pounds. I have a 60 pound pull recurve bow, so I can imagine.

        I saw a video of a battleship firing at night. It was bright as day when each gun fired.

      • Derpetologist

        BBC says

        ***
        The Roman historian Tacitus wrote that German tribesmen gave the middle finger to advancing Roman soldiers, says Thomas Conley, a professor emeritus of communication and classics at the University of Illinois, who has written about the rhetoric of insults.
        Image caption They may look innocent, but these squirrel monkeys are capable of their own obscene gesture

        Earlier, the Greeks used the middle finger as an explicit reference to the male genitalia.

        In 419BC, the playwright Aristophanes puns in his comedy The Clouds about dactylic (finger) rhythm, with a character gesturing first with his middle finger and subsequently with his crotch.

        The gesture’s origins may extend even further back: male squirrel monkeys of South America are known to gesture with the erect penis, says Dr Morris.

        The middle finger, which Dr Morris says probably arrived in the US with Italian immigrants, is documented in the US as early as 1886, when a pitcher for the Boston Beaneaters gave it in a joint team photograph with the rival New York Giants.
        Expression of ‘displeasure’

        The French have their own phallic salute, says Dr Morris.

        In performing the “bras d’honneur” (arm of honour), one raises the forearm with the back of the hand facing outward, while slapping or gripping the inside of the elbow with the other hand.

        The British gesture – the two-fingered “v” with the palm facing inward – is a “double phallus”, Dr Morris quips.
        Image caption The legend that the “two-fingered salute” stems from the Battle of Agincourt is apocryphal

        Although scholars and historians continue to debate its origins, according to legend it was first displayed at the battle of Agincourt in 1415, although this is widely regarded as mythology.

        ***

        As for the video, if *I* could turn back time, I’d give Cher’s mom the morning after pill.

      • dontreadonme

        Shoot a 60# recurve as well. Can’t imagine being able to pull anything close to 150 much less shoot it accurately, especially at range. Men amongst boys they were.

  20. Sean

    “There’s only one set of executive orders that bind and that matter, and those are the ones that come from us. And that’s state parks and county parks and golf, as it is for the time being,” the governor said during his daily coronavirus press briefing in Trenton.

    “We know those are the ones that come up most often,” Murphy added. “We get it. We understand folks want to get outside and get fresh air. But we just cannot allow folks to congregate. When we think we can responsibly either tweak or reverse those decisions, we will.”

    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/04/murphy-says-state-parks-golf-courses-to-stay-closed-even-as-jersey-city-reopening-some-parks.html

    They can’t allow folks to congregate, unless it’s a press conference.

    • Grosspatzer

      Something about that guy gets my blood boiling. A more smug, arrogant, totalitarian douchebag there cannot be.

      • Ted S.

        Worse than Andrew Cuomo?

        You little people can go get essential jobs, but my mommy is not expendable!

      • Sean

        That cunte in Michigan?

      • Grosspatzer

        Well, there is some stiff competition.

      • Suthenboy

        To me one rattlesnake is like another.

    • DEG

      I kinda like #11… and she’s repeated at #65.

      And #12 is the best.

      #37 is nice too.

    • dontreadonme

      One and done.

  21. Lachowsky

    http://imgur.com/a/fcv7llM

    Im gonna have to wash my face before i leave today so i dont get pulled over on the way home.

    • westernsloper

      Naaa, you’re good.

    • Spudalicious

      Racist.

    • Sean

      You do not look amused.

    • Ted S.

      I thought you were balder than that.

    • Mojeaux

      You are not bad on the eyeballs, sir.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Lachowsky, sexiest glib.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        We’ve already established he’s the manliest glib. Puts all you (er, us…) keyboard jockeys to shame.

      • Lachowsky

        *kiss* in the non carnal sense.

        That look is what fetched me my wife. Girlies love a working man, despite what you may read.

      • Mojeaux

        Yeup, they do.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Nice to me you… Kunt?

      • Lachowsky

        You know as well as i do that cursive R ‘s look a lot like cursive N’s.

        And shame on your dirty mind for forgoing the obvious and traversing straight to the gutter.

    • CampingInYourPark

      I didn’t know your name was Kunt

  22. The Late P Brooks

    The news is on. They just did a segment about University of Montana doing research on the plague, complete with Senator Daines bragging about all the money he shoveled their way. And then the guy from U of M says what they really need is even more loot, so they can build a giant new science lab complex.

    Fucking greedy bastards.

    • LJW

      Recently went back to my alma mater. They’ve been bitching about funding from the state and asking for permission to raise tuition. When I was up there I counted 5 different renovations going on. They just finished renovating the student Union which was freshly renovated when I was in school in the early 2000s. A massive new parking garage was finished in the last couple of years. State Universities are cons.

      • LJW

        They also are building a massive federal bio defense lab which the university is a part of.

      • Rebel Scum

        When I was up there I counted 5 different renovations going on.

        Similar to the last time I was at mine. And it had a couple new buildings already complete that weren’t there when I was attending, which was less than a decade ago.

      • cyto

        Ditto. All of my former schools look like a crane farm moved in.

  23. Derpetologist

    I’m really looking forward to the debates.

    Mighty Joe Old will regale us with the tale about how he single-handedly saved his platoon from certain death during the battle of Ah Phuc Dup.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident. All men and women created by the you know, you know the thing.”

  24. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    Well, scissors came in today, so the trashyfro is now gone. Wife didn’t do too bad for her first time. ?

    • Certified Public Asshat

      When my son was little he was insane every time he went to the barber. I eventually decided it wasn’t worth it to take him, so my wife bought a pair of $20 clippers and started cutting mine and his. There were definitely a few bad haircuts at first, but 5 years later she’s got it down.

      • Sean

        I don’t like wearing hats…

      • Gustave Lytton

        Avatar checks out…

    • Derpetologist

      I’ve been giving myself a buzz cut once a month for 3 years. Can’t bring myself to spend $12 on a haircut every 3 weeks.

      I used to have shoulder length hair and wizard beard. A real “just walked out of Jumanji” look. I miss it.

      I’ve had a mustache for 3 years or so. People say I look like the Lorax and sound like Eeyore.

    • westernsloper

      Ahh, dude you rocked the fro.

    • pistoffnick

      Manscaping is important.

      She left your balls intact?

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of asymptomatic coronaplague “victims”- how many of the people in the meat packing industry and Amazon warehouses currently driving the media wild have tested positive but show no symptoms?

    Is that Smithfield plant in Sioux Falls actually littered with the dead and dying, or not?

    • Suthenboy

      “Is that Smithfield plant in Sioux Falls actually littered with the dead and dying, or not?”

      Of course not. It is a meat packing plant.

    • Plinker762

      There are no dead bodies at the Smithfield plant. They were made into hotdogs. Actual footage

  26. Derpetologist

    tonight’s language lesson

    The words music, museum, and amuse all come from the Greek word muse. The muses were basically good idea fairies.

  27. Playa Manhattan

    Just got an email. The cost of my coronavirus antibody test has been refunded (unsolicited), and they’re no longer offering the test.

    Sounds like they didn’t properly validate it, and it doesn’t work at all. And, with the refund, they might be in a bit of trouble.

    I’m back to square one, and I have to find a different place to test.

    I still think I had it a few months ago.

    • westernsloper

      I keep hearing on the radio someone is offering tests for $94 here but I sure can’t find out who that is. Very helpful news spot. Jerks.

  28. Rebel Scum

    While sitting on the john perusing Glib chatter.
    Out in the kitchen arose such a clatter.

    I don’t know how but my cat got the dish rack stuck to his collar and then tore through the house creating quite a ruckus. At first I was worried that the house was collapsing or the shelves I put up in the laundry room broke from the wall. But, no, it was that little monster who can’t seem to stop rooting around the sink (my cats are worse than dogs when it comes to food). By the time I got out to see what was going on he was running and rampaging through the living room, having been doing so through the kitchen in the prior moments. He got stuck while trying to run behind the couch, nearly toppling a lamp on the end table. I was able to grab him and free him while he was hissing and growling because of course I was just trying to help. He ran off, probably under the bed or something. I suppose he is embarrassed. Asshole scattered the dishes that were drying across the kitchen and I’ll have to wash them again. Luckily it was metal pans and tupperware and nothing breakable. It’s irritating but it would have been funny to get on video.

    • Derpetologist

      The Dog’s Diary

      8:00 am – Dog food! My favorite thing!

      9:30 am – A car ride! My favorite thing!

      9:40 am – A walk in the park! My favorite thing!

      10:30 am – Got rubbed and petted! My favorite thing!

      12:00 pm – Milk bones! My favorite thing!

      1:00 pm – Played in the yard! My favorite thing!

      3:00 pm – Wagged my tail! My favorite thing!

      5:00 pm – Dinner! My favorite thing!

      7:00 pm – Got to play ball! My favorite thing!

      8:00 pm – Wow! Watched TV with the people! My favorite thing!

      11:00 pm – Sleeping on the bed! My favorite thing!

      The Cat’s Diary

      Day 983 of My Captivity

      My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little dangling objects. They dine lavishly on fresh meat, while the other inmates and I are fed hash or some sort of dry nuggets. Although I make my contempt for the rations perfectly clear, I nevertheless must eat something in order to keep up my strength.

      The only thing that keeps me going is my dream of escape. In an attempt to disgust them, I once again vomit on the carpet. Today I decapitated a mouse and dropped its headless body at their feet. I had hoped this would strike fear into their hearts, since it clearly demonstrates my capabilities. However, they merely made condescending comments about what a “good little hunter” I am. Bastards!

      There was some sort of assembly of their accomplices tonight. I was placed in solitary confinement for the duration of the event. However, I could hear the noises and smell the food. I overheard that my confinement was due to the power of “allergies.” I must learn what this means, and how to use it to my advantage.

      • Rebel Scum

        Good stuff!

        Although I make my contempt for the rations perfectly clear

        I actually do have to “ration” because the one (who caused the recent episode) would eat himself to death if I didn’t control his portions. Once while traveling for an overnight trip I had to return to the house 30 min/ after leaving because I forgot something only to discover that he had finished the entire bowl of food that had been left to hold him over until the following evening…but anyway, I get them the good stuff.

      • Rebel Scum

        Also, relevant.

    • Aus

      Due to such typical behavior of cats, I urge caution when putting a collar on a cat. Personally, I opt not too put collars on cats. I fear my cat getting caught up on something.

      Another time, I came home after work to find my cat shut herself into the bathroom. That was scary because sometimes I will leave for several days and just put on a bunch of food and water and assume she will be fine. I now do things so the doors can’t latch shut if I’m leaving but I should probably get an interior camera or two so I can check up on the kitteh while I’m away.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        Breakaway collars! Bell optional.

      • whiz

        Yes to breakaway collars.

        One of our cats tends to push our bedroom door shut and then can’t get out (to the food and litter box). We finally had to put a doorstop in so she couldn’t move the door.

  29. Grumbletarian

    I’m so glad the Patriots drafted a placekicker while QB Jake Fromm was available. It’s not as though they have a need at QB anyway, right? Somehow they overlooked their glaring need at equipment manager though.

  30. Sean

    Hilary Farr…would.

    There. I said it.

    • Ted S.

      You’d probably do Jamie Farr, too.

      • Sean

        I’m not a lebansese…

      • straffinrun

        For a Mars bar? Sure.

  31. Rebel Scum

    OrangeManBad said this will work.

    I still don’t believe how incredibly dishonest the msm fuckers have been about this. They want to pretend that 1) light therapy and the effect of uv rays on viruses are not things, 2) injecting things bad for the body in an attempt to kill something worse for the body (like chemo) is not a thing, 3) Trump was not literally talking between the press and doctors while (less than articulately) spit-balling conceptual ideas, and 4) the term “disinfect” literally means “remove infection*”.

    *Yes, I know it is typically in a slightly different context but come the fuck on with this nonsense “outrage/scandal/orange man bad/evil/super-villain/retard bullshit.

    • Suthenboy

      About this? The leftists that have co-opted the MSM lie about everything, every time. They have been doing it overtime for the last 20 years.
      The question I want an answer to is who is motivating them to do so? There is no question that they get their talking points from someone because they all start parroting the same lies at the same time, sometimes word for word. Who?

      • Ted S.

        Journolist.

      • Suthenboy

        I know that but I want names

      • hayeksplosives

        Some combination of:
        1) true believers who really think they are fighting the evil GOP and that they are bringing about Utopia. (Conveniently indoctrinated since childhood, and managable by a den mother or two)

        2) Greedy grifters like Pelosi who make millions for themselves and their friends and family, feeling no compunction about it because the rest of the people are untermenschen who can’t appreciate the fruits of their labor and the better things in life anyway. They picked leftism but they don’t really hold any core beliefs.

        3) the Puppetmasters: political kingmakers, huge donors, grifter businessmen who can see how to make a buck. May or may not be true believers.

      • hayeksplosives

        But how coordinated are Item 3? Are there warring sub factions? Are they organized or just treading parallel paths by coincidence?

    • Rebel Scum

      the term “disinfect” does not literally mean

  32. straffinrun

    Morning, Spuddo. Music links from someone I’ve heard of? You’re like the anti OWMC.

  33. Q Continuum

    So is Lil’ Kim really gonna kick off? I’m reading conflicting reports that he’s either out of Pyongyang on a health retreat, or he’s in a vegetative state or he’s dead.

    • Rhywun

      48-hour rule applies. I guess we’re about 24 hours into it.

    • Ted S.

      He’s going to kick off eventually.

      Whether it’s the near future or the more distant future, I have no idea.

    • hayeksplosives

      If so, is it a free-for-all to seize power in NK, or do they have an organized plan of succession?

      Or does it just fall to the next of Kim?

      • Rebel Scum

        His (more) evil sister, I think.

      • Suthenboy

        Boo!

      • Gustave Lytton

        His sister appears to be the successor.

    • straffinrun

      Sounds like intentional misinformation. My bet is that he’s fine.

      • cyto

        Or the sister already had him bumped off and they are just rounding up the last of the loyalists.

      • straffinrun

        It’s possible. CIA planting garbage stories to mix up the situation is also possible.

      • cyto

        Remember, this is the nation that reports that the original Dear Leader hit 11 holes in 1 the very first time he played golf.

  34. Donation Not Taxation

    The governors of Colorado and Georgia announced nearly identical plans to loosen cower in place. Can you tell from The Washington Post’s reaction which governor is an openly homosexual Democrat and which is an openly Christian Republican?

    TRIGGER WARNING: The Washington Post

    “Gov. Jared Polis outlined a plan to ease statewide stay-at-home and nonessential business closures Monday. All nonessential retailers may soon offer curbside delivery and can fully reopen, at half-staff capacity and with protective measures. Offices and personal services can do the same in May. Schools, universities, gyms remain closed, along with indoor restaurant and bar service.”

    “Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp’s move Monday to lift restrictions on a wide range of businesses, one of the most aggressive moves yet to reignite commercial activity in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, put his state at the center of a deepening national battle over whether Americans are ready to risk exacerbating the public health crisis to revive the shattered economy.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/us-states-represent-patchwork-as-they-mull-economic-restarts/2020/04/22/30af906c-8502-11ea-81a3-9690c9881111_story.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gov-brian-kemp-sets-georgia-on-aggressive-course-to-reopen-putting-his-state-at-center-of-deepening-national-debate/2020/04/21/36545638-8372-11ea-ae26-989cfce1c7c7_story.html

  35. Donation Not Taxation

    Florida government follows glibertarians.com lead. Website down attempt solve problems too many filing unemployment.

    “has been the slowest in the nation to process unemployment claims.”

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/jobs-economy/os-bz-coronavirus-unemployment-down-20200424-rkfx423ag5hs5j6u6be6tzclwi-story.html

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/jobs-economy/os-bz-coronavirus-unemployment-down-20200424-rkfx423ag5hs5j6u6be6tzclwi-story.html

  36. LemonGrenade

    Doing what I can to continue my streak as a ‘bad mom’ so let the kids have friends from down the street over for a sleepover. Have ceded the house to the kids for the evening and retired to the garage with the hubby to watch movies. Just finished Blazing Saddles, and following it up with They Live. Hope everyone is having a lovely evening.

    • Suthenboy

      I hope you brought bubblegum. No running or fighting in the house.

      • LemonGrenade

        If I can’t hear them fighting, does it matter if they are? Actually I do have a video camera in the main kitchen/dining room area with an intercom built in, so I can yell at them from afar, which is how I prefer to deal with parenting. But they appear to be all getting along great.
        And this movie…. it has wonderful quotes, but the fight scene. Oh, the fight scene between Roddy Piper and Keith David is what keeps me coming back to this movie again and again. In my opinion, one of the best choreographed and extended fight sequences of all time.

      • Suthenboy

        I wasn’t talking about the kids

    • Rhywun

      ‘Vid party!

      • LemonGrenade

        Gotta convince the hubby that would be a fun thing to do, first. I’ll see what I can do!

    • Chafed

      Those are great movie choices.

    • egould310

      Watched Tucker & Dale last night. Yeah that is funny. Have a good evening in the garage 🙂

      • LemonGrenade

        Thanks! It is a hilarious movie.

  37. Count Potato

    I’m still annoyed that the supermarkets aren’t stocked up. It’s some little things. For example, I can’t buy split peas. And some major things that I can’t buy, such as bleach or spray disinfectant. There is also no paper towels or toilet paper, but I wasn’t go to buy those anyway as I stocked up last time they were on sale. I was able to get some frozen peas at one store, and frozen corn at another, but neither store had both. One store was out bottled lemon juice, and the other had some brand I’ve never seen.

    They also got rid of all the retards who bag groceries. Maybe they didn’t think they were smart enough to follow all the new procedures? I have nothing against the developmentally disabled. I knew many of them by name, and was always very friendly. Unfortunately, the baggers who replaced them are even stupider than the actual retards. At one store the bagger, who was wearing gloves, and a mask around her neck, was standing there eating. So I told her she had to change her gloves. Maybe I have more knowledge than the average person from working on an ambulance, but who the hell eats while wearing BSI?

    • Ted S.

      who the hell eats while wearing BSI?

      Doesn’t everybody eat while wearing bullshit?

    • Donation Not Taxation

      BSI?

      • Count Potato

        Body Substance Isolation

    • LemonGrenade

      I was originally a mask proponent, and still am – if that’s what you wanna do – but having seen the number of people who do dumb shit whilst wearing gloves/masks makes me think just recommending people wash their hands and stay out of range of their snot and coughs is probably good enough. Grocery stores have mostly returned to normal in my area, with the exception of Lysol wipes; those might as well be unobtanium. I wish this had never begun and have been wishing it were over for weeks, and the people still jerking off to disaster porn and suggesting we should stay locked down until there’s a vaccine make me want to practice my marksmanship.

    • Chafed

      I hear you CP. What is out of stock in any particular store and why remains a mystery to me. I can’t find vegetarian baked beans in any local supermarket. Go figure.

      • Suthenboy

        “…I can’t find vegetarian baked beans…”

        So there is a silver lining. Whew.

        *Who told about their store wiped out of all meats while the veggie-meat products were still fully stocked.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        (I like veggie-meat…)

      • l0b0t

        Might have been me. The supermarket for which I toil has not run low on the fake meats and fake cheeses at all during these trying times.

    • Brochettaward

      At one store the bagger, who was wearing gloves, and a mask around her neck, was standing there eating. So I told her she had to change her gloves. Maybe I have more knowledge than the average person from working on an ambulance, but who the hell eats while wearing BSI?

      Someone who is just doing the minimum to comply with their employer’s wishes? You seem to assume that they are wearing that willingly.

      • RAHeinlein

        ^This. I’ve been surprised by the number of Glibs complaining about workers not wearing their uncomfortable, breathing-challenged, masks correctly. So now some are in-favor of forced masking? The eating part I get – BS in any customer service setting.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Yes that’s generally frowned upon in retail, hence the breakroom.

      • Count Potato

        It’s not force of government if it’s from their employer.

  38. zwak

    So, people were talking about commercial property in the Sharpshooters thread, and I thought I might give a few thoughts on that.

    1. Most commercial property is owned by someone that owns multiple properties.
    2. They expect there to be turn over and vacany.
    3. Rent is not the only income they base property decisions on.

    Now, when we look at it from these angles, things become a little clearer.
    A. To make the monthly nut (total of bills for ALL properties) they only have to make enough to cover that amount. In other words, they should be renting things at a price point, and have enough money invested, so that all bills can be paid at a certain percentage of occupancy.
    B. They already know that they cannot have 100% occupancy, so this is covered by the financials of their investment. IE how much money down to keep the nut at a level below minimum occupancy.
    C. Buildings, like real estate generally, appreciate. This is part of the equation, and is taken into account when making repair and upkeep decisions. If a building is appreciating at 2%, spending 1.5% in maintenance makes sense, especially when one has a timeline of ownership.

    Appreciation takes into account that any given building is partially valued by its surroundings. If one has a commercial building in a posh shopping district, filling a vacancy with Debbys Discount Dildos might work against that appreciation. But, when a company has multiple buildings, it can sweat the cost of that one building because they have other properties bringing in rent, it makes sense to keep it vacant.

    Now, keep in mind that I have never worked in the commercial field, so I could be wildly off base. But I think I am on the right track.

    • Plinker762

      Cost averaging is probably part of it. My thought is that they can ride out, lets say 6 months of vacancy, waiting for a tenant that may stay there 5-10 years at full rate. If they rent at a lower rate to get an tenant, they may be “stuck” with a lower income for that same period. Commercial renters have much less protection than residential. The landlord can pretty much tell you to get out at any time.

      • RAHeinlein

        All of the above correct. Also, a lower-rent tenant likely can’t absorb triple-net.

      • Jarflax

        Additionally the leases with higher end tenants frequently restrict what other businesses the property owner can put in the property. And of course there is the fact that locking in a low rent tenant ties up the property frequently for 3-7 years and results in lower receipts than the same property would generate with the higher rent tenant after a year of vacancy. Like I said in the earlier thread commercial is complex

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      1. Most commercial property is owned by someone that owns multiple properties.

      OK, we own 1-1/2 properties but we are selling off our partial ownership soon.

      2. They expect there to be turn over and vacany.

      Yeah, that is a given. However, I have a policy that I will never raise the rent on an existing tenant. Current dude has been there 10+ years. Great tenants.

      3. Rent is not the only income they base property decisions on.

      This is very true. I saved huge tax bucks over the years on the property that I depreciated. I tried and tried to do the same on the other property but the partner (SIL) had no interest. That, actually, is why we are selling out our share of the property.

  39. Chafed

    I wonder if Trump realizes he’s been played, yet? He should have never shut down the whole country.

    Simple answer, no he hasn’t. He doesn’t understand much of this. He is still in thrall to whoever spoke with him most recently. Look at how he reacted to Georgia reopening. The waffling bastard said Governor Kemp is acting too early but America needs to reopen. He doesn’t know what he wants, when, or why.

  40. mexican sharpshooter

    I’m in the mood for a Saturday evening melody.

    Yeah..no. I’m going to pretend I didn’t just find out the guy from Led Zeppelin made elevator music.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwiTs60VoTM

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Oh yes. I find when the singer makes a solo project there’s a bit of “those douchebags were just holding me back” effect.

    • cyto

      The impressive thing about that song is that the drums only version rocks harder than any Plant solo project.

  41. Suthenboy

    Nite all. Damn I am tired

    • LemonGrenade

      Sleep tight!

  42. Mojeaux

    Schrodinger’s douchebag: One who makes douchebag statements … then decides whether they were “just joking” or dead serious based on whether other people in the group approve or not. —Urban Dictionary

    Teenage boys, amirite?!

    • Jarflax

      That actually can go both ways. If a joke gets jumped on hard enough it can spark an angry defense of a position that wasn’t serious to start with.

      • Mojeaux

        I’m sure and my kid tries, but it’s a way to deflect from the original offense. You’d think he’d learned by now we are not easily amused by his “jokes.”

      • Jarflax

        Lol. oh wow I actually missed the teenage boys part. I was talking about some episodes from my own past where people jumped on me for joking so I defended the position seriously.

      • RAHeinlein

        At what point are you going to take any responsibility as a parent? Do you care at all about your children (particularly XY)? I hear suicidal thoughts, depression, therapy, medical needs – Jesus Fuck.

      • Mojeaux

        Well allrightythen.

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        She’s not wrong.

      • Tulip

        from past posts, I believe XY is in therapy, so maybe back off and let her vent a little.

      • Brochettaward

        While I’m tempted to sit back and enjoy a good cat fight (Bearded Hobbit tried to jump in and ruin it), its pretty presumptive to extrapolate all that from the comments Mojeau makes about her kids (that I’ve seen). Some of which are her just venting, which is what people do often around here. I don’t know where someone would get the sense that she doesn’t take responsibility for her kids or care about them from what she posts.

      • Jarflax

        I’ve had my moments of discomfort with Mojeaux about some of what she has said about her kids and her relations with them, but I think it is abundantly clear that she cares, and if anything is a bit desperate looking for answers to things that are probably not answerable, and these posts are expressing that desperation.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        She* said something complimentary about XY the other day.

        * “Who’s ‘she’? The cat?”

      • Ozymandias

        Well, I probably should shut my mouth, but let me offer a thought. I have 6 kids – 3 are mine, 3 are step-kids. I have raised all of them in my home, even the step-kids, from 7 and up, plus my own three, two of which I had as a single parent – teenage girls 15 months apart in high school. Several friends of mine have 6 or more kids.
        Some observations:
        1 – Your standards change as you have more and more kids. Statistically speaking, you get six or more, I don’t care if you’re Ward fucking CLeaver, there’s a good chance you’re going to know a lot about the subject of conflict. And feel uncomfortable judging others. I don’t know how may you have, but I’ll wager that my friends from Irish families of 5 or more have some stories for you.
        2 – Maybe you think Mojo overshares. Okay, fine, fair enough. A lot of people share things here that are quite intimate, stuff that I wouldn’t and occasionally makes me a little uncomfortable, but that’s my problem, really. We’ve got a lot of people with some checkered pasts in here, myself included among that list, and I certainly wouldn’t want to be judged on my worst day, nor on my kids’ worst days. I love my daughters (all 5) – but sometimes they do some malicious shit to each other that boggles my mind. I think I did a good job of raising them, but yanno… *shrugs* I’m loathe to be that vocal, let’s say, about my disapproval of others over parenting struggles.
        3 – I’m not castigating you, RA, but try to come from a place of love. I’m telling you, you’ll want a place of support if your kids struggle, and they do, no matter how hard you may try or want. Hell, I think my parents were great, but if you heard how many times I got hit by my old man, you might have a different opinion by modern standards. Also, I deserved about 80% of them. If you don’t want to read it, skim and/or skip. I do that with a lot of things and I’m sure others do with me.
        G’night all.

      • LemonGrenade

        Kids are dumb. When my kid is especially dumb, I tend to blame myself for obviously not teaching him better, but sometimes, it really is society that’s just being a fucking asshole and my son is innocent of the charges. I was actually vastly relieved that they closed schools for the academic year, because that meant my son – who was facing a ten day suspension for touching a girl on her shoulder – did not have go back to his middle school for the rest of the academic year and would be able to start fresh at a new high school. On the other hand my daughter was a straight A student and didn’t mind the indoctrination at school because she could see through it, has been putting actual holes in her walls she’s been so restless over the lockdowns. Both of them agree they’re bullshit and are grateful I’ve made no effort to limit their contact with their friends. I want to move out of state. I want to start homeschooling. I need to get my husband fully committed to both before I can.
        And I’m 60% through 1520 Main and am still loving it. Even if it was your least favorite to write, it’s a great book. Love that you can write a male hero who is willing to beat the tar out of a bitch that richly deserves it. I really like Trey and Marina as characters so far.

      • KSuellington

        Wow. Your son got a ten day suspension for touching a girl on the shoulder? That is insane. I didn’t even think they gave suspensions for that length of time, let alone for some trivial bullshit like that. I would be f’n livid at the school.

      • LemonGrenade

        The vice principal was threatening him with one, just before they closed schools for the year. Because it was a repeat offense – earlier in the year, he touched her upper arm to get her attention when he was trying to speak to her, and she reported it to the administration as something that made her feel uncomfortable, so touching her on the shoulder makes it a repeat offense. Yeah. Coming from someone who had trouble getting a seating reassignment when the guy in front of me kept trying to put his hands between my legs, I feel like maybe we’ve swung the pendulum too far. My son is a dork. He’s an enormous dork, who is 6’3″ at just barely 14 but he wouldn’t hurt a fly. I’m taking the long break to teach him real social distancing, not disease social distancing.

      • KSuellington

        Damn. Yes the pendulum has indeed swung too far. Hopefully one effect from this terrible shitshow is less kids in the public education gulags. Good luck convincing your husband to homeschool!

      • Mojeaux

        Thanks, LG. I worried about that (both spots, actually), but to be intellectually honest, I had to go by “What if it had been a man who did X?”

      • LemonGrenade

        My son comes up behind me and rubs my shoulders, which, since I work an average 12 hour day, I actually like. I just have to repeat to him every time that just because Momma is comfortable with putting his hands on her, that does not mean that any girl he likes will be okay with it. It’s difficult to explain to him, how to tell when a girl will approve of personal contact, but I’m doing my best.

      • LemonGrenade

        I get the impression your kids are a leetle bit older than mine, so it’s understandable that you’d have different expectations of yours. I’m still trying to adapt mine to a mix of middle class mormon without the god, plus modern societal standards. I actually find that most of my upbringing helps with the current situation, weird as that may be. My husband is an Eagle Scout and I’m a non-religious mormon, so my kids are big on self-sufficiency, learning how to do things themselves and helping other people who haven’t figured it out yet. I’m eternally grateful that my parents raised me in a church that emphasized self-sufficience, even if we eventually parted ways.

      • Mojeaux

        Mine are 14 and almost-17. I have always given them a lot of freedom that their peers never got. Right now I need to get XX driving, but she has horrible vision, which we have been trying to correct for years (and failing), so we’re trying to figure out if we can swing Lasik surgery or if we can get insurance to pay for it because she can’t see well enough at night to drive. XY will be hopefully getting a job when school’s “out”, and friends/peers still don’t really have the same type of freedom he’s had since he was in 2nd, 3rd grade.

      • LemonGrenade

        Yeah, my son just turned 14, and while he had a lot of problems because of his psychotic vice principal, he’s coming along well. My daughter is all of 10 already is starting to develop tiits and is smarter than anyone should be naturally graced with. I’m just crossing my fingers I did well enough not to end up an early grandma.

      • Mojeaux

        I’m just crossing my fingers I did well enough not to end up an early grandma.

        Went through a period where I was crossing my fingers, too, but the experience turned out to be a bad-good/good-bad one. It hurt watching her go through her first broken heart though. I grimaced a lot, tried to give advice (none of it good, turns out). If she ever has a boyfriend again I’ll be surprised.

        With XY, we’ve had good luck with teachers and administrators.

    • Brochettaward

      I thought this was just how one deals with women you can’t murder.

  43. KSuellington

    Ha! Love it, my buddy just bought ammo online as companies have already started shipping to CA after the ruling came down. I’ll take any bit of good liberty news in this crap storm.

  44. cyto

    We were talking about Slashdot the other day… so I hopped on again just now.

    One story about Michael Moore streaming a documentary for free. It is critical of environmental favorites like renewable energy – they make too much pollution. The solution? We must reduce the population!!!

    Next story… A detailed, link filled accounting of the explosion of people poisoning themselves.

    They ate both of them up. The common thread? Not news for nerds, I suppose.

    The one good thing? The top post on the “people are poisoning themselves” article was the Reason.com debunking.

    Beyond that… loads and loads of low UID people spouting complete nonsense.

    Oh, and apparently the “senile” thing is starting to sting with their nominee, so they’ve gone to calling Trump senile now.

  45. LemonGrenade

    Just finished watching the main fight scene between Rowdy Roddy Piper and Keith David in They Live (again), and maintain that it is the best one on one fight scene in a movie of all time. Fight me.

    • Brochettaward

      Based on the picture you posted, I have a size advantage on you. I have a reach advantage. I don’t think you want any of this.

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      I agree. However, the premise was pretty weak:

      “Put these glasses on!” Punches him in face.
      “No!” Punches him in face.
      “Put these glasses on!” Punches him in face
      “No!” Punches him in face.

      • Rhywun

        It’s almost like the writers just looked for the flimsiest excuse they could up with to get them rumbling.

    • Ozymandias

      Not if you’ve ever really fought it isn’t. By Hollywood standards, yes, it’s fantastic. Then again, Piper made a living choreographing fights in front of live audiences. It’s like a guy who can do sleight of hand and then giving him cameras and multiple takes, choice of angles, etc. I have no doubt why it was so good.

      • straffinrun

        Pro wrestlers often can make the transition to real combat sports. Remember the Gracie Killer Sakuraba.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        -1 CM Punk

      • LemonGrenade

        CM Punk Return confirmed!

      • Gustave Lytton

        +1 John DuPont?

      • Ozymandias

        On the other hand, Jackie Chan did some absolutely insane shit – and a lot of it was REAL real, not “kinda real.” He paid in so many broken bones it’s ridiculous.
        I guess it may depend upon how you define “fight scene,” but I would say that Matrix is in an interesting “class,” as well. I know an actor/stuntman who was in both John Wick and The Accountant – guy named Tait Fletcher. (He’s also an old time and long time CrossFit Gym owner and an absolute mountain of a man. He’s the guy Ben Affleck kills with the belt on the farm in a fight. I teased him about that and he just smiled; he’s an absolute pro, a BJJ black belt, and helps train guys for the UFC. He is also an absolute gentleman and one of the kindest soul you can ever… and thank god for that. Anyway, watch the fight scene in John Wick where he gets his head shot to the table. I’m not joking when I say this: I was introduced to him and hadn’t seen the movie and he asked me to tell him what I thought after I saw it. The next time I saw him I said: “I almost pissed and shit my pants because I thought I just watched you die.” Keanu Reeves couldn’t last 15 seconds anywhere with Tait Fletcher, but man, that is so well-done it made me cringe. I’m not trying to be a jerk, either, but real fighting is absolutely savage, so I guess I’d say maybe we need genres. Because when Corporal Upham watches his friend get stabbed by the German guy in Saving Private Ryan? I’m gonna say that’s on an altogether different level that perhaps it’s not fair to make those comparisons at all. Because I know how it makes me feel when I watch that and it is nothing like what is going on with Roddy. And I’m really not trying to piss in your Wheaties seriously, because I love that scene, too, but fighting for your life has gotten so much better in so many different genres, including Game of Thrones, even. I could go on about this subject forever.

      • LemonGrenade

        Oh I love Jackie Chan, too. Especially the climactic scene in Twin Dragons. Some of the stunts he managed were fucking amazing. But there’s something about Rowdy Roddy and Keith when they went at it that really struck me as a classic. I’ve watched that fight scene so many times over the past decades, and it just doesn’t get old. Matrix did, fast. A lot of other fight scenes did, fast. But when Piper and David went at it, remains a classic in my eyes.

      • Ozymandias

        And sound like an asshole and not mean, too. I just have friends in both businesses – the trying to make it look real fighting and real fighting. And I know military guys who kick in people’s doors and shoot them or snatch them for a living, too. (Heck some people on here have seen or done some of same, so I don’t want to sound like I’m talking shit); but for me, the filming and depiction of those things has gotten so fucking realistic and graphic, it makes a lot of the older stuff to me seem almost like a cartoon by comparison. Like even Peaky Blinders has done some absolutely brutal – and graphic – “fight scenes” that for me are just in a different class of realism and authenticity of depicting human violence, so maybe there should be categories. By the way, the Marvel movies have had mostly well done fight scenes, within its own Universe, so I don’t like even comparing them. Tony Blauer is a good friend and he went to Hong Kong to film a scene with Brandon Lee. He has an absolutely hysterical story about choreographing this very realistic fight scene, which got edited down to him getting kicked in the face and knocked out cold. He still laughs about it and he knows a lot about real fight – the guy has watched more security camera footage and interviewed survivors of actual assaults, murder attempts, and the like than probably anyone: we’ve had this conversation dozens of times. He likes all of it, too – UFC, War movies, Cop movies, shows.

      • LemonGrenade

        Nah, I don’t think you’re an asshole, just not the demographic the majority of directors were targeting. I’ve known real badasses who killed people as part of their job and by and large they weren’t proud of it and didn’t want to talk about it. It’s all different classes and I can still admire the work Piper and David did together without mixing it into actual real heroism.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        He’s the guy Ben Affleck kills with the belt on the farm in a fight

        Please tell him that the expression on his face when his character gets flicked in the face at the beginning of the scene is a highlight of that movie.

        A great little piece of acting that perfectly conveys the thought, “what the fuck did I just get into!?” So great.

      • Ozymandias

        Yeah, Tait is great at all of it. I didn’t realize how many films he had been in until after I’d met him a couple of times. I was like, “Holy shit! This guy’s in a ton of movies.” I usually run into him at the CF Games, although not always. It’s been a few years and I didn’t go last year, but I heard I missed him. I think he actually lives in trains not too far away, in Nevada.

      • Suthenboy

        “Not if you’ve ever really fought it isn’t.“

        Nooooo shit. Its alot messier, the things you thought you would do you dont
        The effects you thought would happen dont
        It is ugly, chaotic, scary and messy as hell

      • LemonGrenade

        That’s one of the reasons I love the fight between Piper and David in They Live. It takes place in an alley. It’s over stupid (to the outsider) shit. And it’s just a fucking slog. There aren’t fancy flips or special bullet dodges, it’s two guys just beating the ever loving shit out of each other, without wires or superpowers.

      • Jarflax

        It is also almost always over in a matter of seconds. I worked in a very rough bar for a few years and saw some very disturbing stuff and the thing that always shocked me, even after seeing it many times, was how quickly a person could be taken from up on his feet and having fun to lying on the ground bleeding and out cold.

      • Suthenboy

        Yep
        Violence is glorious in your mind but in reality not so much

      • commodious spittoon

        I was nearly assaulted in the parking lot at the grocery store earlier, and all I could think was, “Why am I wearing earbuds when I should be paying attention to surroundings where I might get mugged?”

        Turns out it’s a friend who had to run up to me because I have earbuds in and couldn’t hear him.

      • Ozymandias

        Blauer has a drill in his seminar called the “Saving Private Ryan” drill. He has a guy try to bury a fake knife in your chest from on top of you. If you get your arms outside of 90* (extended) and your fingers splayed/extended, he can’t put that knife in your chest. Let me tell you something, it’s a miracle to do it wrong and then do it right and go, “Holy shit. That fucking matters. Nice information.” Read the books about William E. Fairbairn. He was the English police chief in Shanghai when the brits were in charge and later went to train the Resiatance to the Nazis. He wrote the book on the subject and his bio is chilling. That is what real fighting is like. It’s depiction is yucky.

      • commodious spittoon

        I don’t understand. Are you getting your fingers in the way of the knife, or…?

      • Ozymandias

        Hey, hockey guys should get their own category, too. Anyone who has played and watched some minor league games where two dudes both around 6’4 and 240 decide who may get a trip to the NHL. On skates. Within their “ruleset,” there is some serious fighting and depiction of violence there. The NHL has tried to lessen the depiction and, really make it safer – and fucking ruin it – because it is just two dudes punching each other in the face until someone blasts someone else to their knees. I am telling you, I took my daughters to AHL games when Adam McQuaid and Johnny Boychuk were both with the P-Bruins. My middle daughter, god bless her, turned to me at one point and mouthed, “Oh my god, that is real blood.” I just nodded… and smiled.
        The “olde timey” fights are sometimes not far from muggings. Watch the youtube of Stan Jonathan on Pierre Bouchard – that’s really a felonious assault if I’m looking with my legal eye. But, hoo-whee! Man, the Romans were some fucking savages!

        Anyway, I might have gotten a little too high and it’s been a few weeks, so g’night everyone!

    • LemonGrenade

      Confession, big pro wrestling fan. That may color the whole thing. But, us @Brochettaward I’m small, but I’m fucking mean. I’ve been told multiple times that I have bigger balls than most of the men I work with so now that I’m old and no longer need to protect my looks because I’m married, give me some more points in the odds.

  46. Hyperion

    Umm, I swear this is not what I was looking for. I don’t know how I found this. WTF?

    I dunno

    • slumbrew - double secret satan

      Not a big Primus fan, though I know people who love them.

      Props for the South Park theme, though.

    • LemonGrenade

      Wait, Primus is NEW to you???

      • Hyperion

        Yah, umm no. That video is.

      • LemonGrenade

        Okay, that’s a relief.

  47. Hyperion

    I’m guessing, all you old grannies took your Geritol and are already in bed?

    • Tulip

      they are on the chat

      • Hyperion

        Oh, for the love of fuck. What is wrong with those guys? I spent 4.5 hours of forced Zoom meetings on Friday alone. Fuck that shit.

      • hayeksplosives

        We’re watching Neph get wasted.

      • Hyperion

        I can watch me get wasted, what’s the benefit?

      • commodious spittoon

        Glibs Zoom is college redux?

      • LemonGrenade

        I’m still reliving the shame of being caught smoking pot during the company all-hands, and then my daughter running into my bedroom with an active video chat when I was naked and drying off from the shower. If I’m still employed after the Monday, maybe I’ll convince the hubby to either go elsewhere so I can join in, and or suck it up and join in with us, but he understands the need for separate groups.

    • Aus

      I’m here! Waiting a new game to download on steam, then I’ll be up on all night 🙂

      Mount & Blade II is kinda a disappointment, and I’ve been relectuant to play multiplayer because there’s invasive anti-cheat software required.

      Insurgency: Sandstorm is a fantastic FPS, my friend and I been playing it a lot.

      Just bought a new city builder game, I love those for whatever reason.

      • straffinrun

        For some reason, your animated GIF doesn’t bother me like other animated GIFS.

      • Hyperion

        I LOVE Bannerlord. It’s the best game I can remember playing in a long time. And I never got into Warband at all. I played about 3 hours of Bannerlord today. Raiding every Bandit hideout I can find.

      • Aus

        Well… I should say I’ve put in like 40 hours already lol 🙂

        So, I can’t say I didn’t enjoy it. I will probably fire it up again after a few days break. I have 1500 hours on Warband (yikes!)

        I played multiplayer a shit ton and hosted a server for a while, it was the most popular server (in North America) and I’m really pleased about that era.

      • Hyperion

        Just checked, 38 hours.

      • UnCivilServant

        My reaction to Bannerlord has been kinda ‘Meh’.

        I’ll check back in a few months to see if they’ve made progress.

      • Hyperion

        You have to get good at it before the enjoyment sets in. After my 4th and 5th companions joined and I started upgrading their gear and we started walking through bandit camps and slaughtering everyone, the loot lust and bloodlust started setting in.

      • UnCivilServant

        I couldn’t even get revenue going to stay in the field. Then all of a sudden no one had any money to buy loot from those battles I could fight.

      • Hyperion

        Yeah, I had that issue too.

        1. Keep food so your troops can heal and keep morale up.

        1. Don’t watch any Youtube videos about how to strategically win battles. It’s easy. F1 alert tops. F3. Charge. Be good at ranged on horseback and follow the charge.

        That’s pretty much it. Farther on than that, I have no idea. I have 70 troops and 27K in funds.

      • Hyperion

        “Just bought a new city builder game”

        Not really a SIM person, but I like Civ 6 a lot.

    • Brochettaward

      I’m playing with my penis.

      • LemonGrenade

        I hear it’s magnificent.

      • Jarflax

        Let me guess you heard that from Brochettaward?

      • LemonGrenade

        You bet your ass I did. Multiple times.

      • Hyperion

        I hear he’s a fag, so don’t believe it.

      • Suthenboy

        If you dont believe it just ask him

        *is it just me or is the word penis inferior to the slang?

      • Mojeaux

        “Penis” is a flaccid word.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Joe Rogan had a great bit about that on I’m Gonna Be Dead Someday

      • Mojeaux

        Link?

        I really do hate that word. It sounds more vile than any other word.

      • Brochettaward

        Once you’ve seen my penis, and you associate it with the word, you’re attitude will change.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Link?

        I looked around for a bit before posting, but no dice – I can throw it up somewhere if need be.

        Same album as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hx_oQwrOzs – track is “The Word is ‘Cock'”.

        “Nobody’s got a rock-hard ‘penis’ for you”

  48. commodious spittoon

    During our weekly staff meetings there’s been talk about nobody cutting their hair till we’ve gone back to the office. One guy said he’s growing a mullet, and made the “business in the front, party in the back” joke… another guy corrected him. “It’s ‘essential in the front, non-essential in the back.'” I don’t know if he heard that somewhere, but that’s good.

    • LemonGrenade

      lol

      • commodious spittoon

        In fairness to the first guy, his joke was balding in the front, party in the back, which is pretty good, too.

    • egould310

      I just floated the prospect of going to Fourscore’s honey harvest to my wife. I think we may go.

      She’s deathly afraid of bees. She wants one of those suits with the big hat and mesh veil and a bee smoker.

      Any Minne Glibs have a hotel recommendation?

  49. Lachowsky

    How do you motivate men to work when the government is offerong them 1000 dollars a week to stay home?

    I have 12 guys that work for me. Every single one of them has a proven track record of being hardworking, intelligent, technically skilled, and prideful of what they do. I have millwrights, mechanics, hydraulic guys, construction electricians, welders, electrical controls guys, fabricators, and each of the guys are a combination of more than one of the above categories.

    We are a maintenance department. We take pride in what we do.

    However, everyone of my guys is watching the production department being laid off a week at a time, and they can’t help but notice that the laid off guys are drawing 400 or so from the state and 600 from the federal government.

    They all make better than that on a weekly basis, but damn, they see that, and it affects them.

    • SP

      I had this conversation with someone. They work at a diner. Diner owner says he’s going to re-open May 1. Employees are all saying, “I’m making more money from the government than I make working for you. I’m not coming back until it runs out.”

  50. Hyperion

    I just been watching Youtube music videos most of the afternoon.

    I swear Dave Mustaine is a GOD. Fight me!
    I

  51. UnCivilServant

    75 degrees in my living room after sundown.

    I’ve got to get these windows open.

    No, I’m not going to break the panes to do it.

    • Jarflax

      Are they painted shut or swollen?

      • UnCivilServant

        No, I just have to move some furnature.

      • Hyperion

        “furnature”

        I see. Stop buying furniture with built in heating units that you can’t turn off.

      • UnCivilServant

        Actually, one of the pieces is a table where the window AC unit is sitting.

      • Hyperion

        He’s got the commi cough, the autoritah had no choice but to nail them shut.

    • Brochettaward

      That’s not a glove-wearing temperature. My condolences.