Pie ponders etc… The title message or variations thereof are something often seen these days on lefty twitter. Then again they always are, but these days just a tad more. It is, off course, linked to the SARS-CoV-2 whatever. This has proven, once and for all time, libertarianism wrong.
How lucky, then, that this special event supports one’s hobbyhorse one has been riding for 30 years. This proves more government is needed, just like every single thing that happened ever proved more government is necessary.
Has it though? Has it really? Is this what covid did? You will not be surprised that I think not. For me all it did, as I may have mentioned, is strengthen even more, if possible, the idea that there is no room to communicate between people of differing concepts of life. It is hard to have a discussion with the left, mainly because we cannot first establish some simple facts of reality as a starting point. Reality is, off coursed, racist, sexist and transphobic. Nothing is objective and all that.
Let’s say we have two glasses of beer. We can debate if beer 1 is better than beer2 as long as we can agree, at least, we are looking at two glass of beer. But if someone sees a glass of beer and someone else sees the same object a decorative candle, there is no debate to be had.
But let us analyze things a bit. Why is libertarianism crushed? Because, they will say, government was essential in handling the pandemic. This is, off course, not such a hard fact as it may seem and can be considered at least debatable. But even assuming, for the sake of argument, that it is not debatable, it does not prove at all what they claim it proves.
I have seen in the past, among leftists wanting huge government intervention, claims such as measure X was applied during WWI or WWII and so it works. This is a ridiculous claim. Many things happened in the great wars. But life in general was massively disrupted and things were pretty bad. Living standards were low, most things rationed and so on. Some measure implemented were accepted in those times as necessary, whether they were or not. No one can claim everything government did during the wars was good. The fact that those measures would apply or be accepted during peace is ridiculous. If blinds on all windows work during the Blitz, they don’t do much in peacetime, except hide your fetish from you neighbor, though your kink may be that the neighbors know your fetish.
Similarly, things government does during a pandemic have no bearing on what it should do when there isn’t one. Some things necessary for short term survival in the presence of a, pardon the phrase, “clear and present danger” are not good for long term thriving, especially if that danger is not there.
Many of the things the left wants are not good even now. Why would anyone think nationalizing things increases production? When history has shown quite the opposite, and in less stressful times. European countries nationalized plenty after World War 2, probably by the stupid thinking that government involvement in production “worked” during the war. It was an unmitigated disaster. That is, if you can look at history and see reality.
An analogy for this, seen online somewhere, is that if during a critical event in a hospital you need a defibrillator, that does not mean using one every morning as a healthy person is good. A random dose of chemotherapy for a cancer free patient would probably greatly harm said patient. So no, the need, if any, of government intervention during war or pandemic does not, in any way, imply the need of government intervention during normal times.
But I will go further. For me, the virus proves wrong most of the left’s claims. This was, for all intents and purposes, a massive failure of government and experts. And trust in experts is one of the main conceits of the left. Well the experts failed. Miserably. Be it European Union agencies, US Surgeon General, World Health Organization and most national government agencies. All these institutions, one month before things started to go sideways, were adamant in claiming there was no risk (there was in fact), in was not human to human transmissible (ehm), there will be no pandemic (spoiler alert…) masks are no good (while not a panacea, they definitely help), travel restrictions are unwarranted, etc etc etc. A non-failure of government would have been preventing the pandemic from happening, given there was advanced warning. But nooo, that would have been RACIST. Instead of doing right by their citizens, every agency just repeated Chinese Communist Party propaganda. And all the press did the same. This is not a discussion on how bad the virus is. But, given the measures governments took in the end, it is clear the governments think it is bad. And as such, the measures come too late. And in the end, women and minorities hardest hit.
Every one of the quality socialized healthcare systems was unprepared and overwhelmed, although the great boogieman, the profit motive, was absent. Where were the experts then?
I will go a step further. This proved to me that the government of the world are too preoccupied with things that should not be, in a free society, under the purview of government, in order to do what, in any non-anarchy, is the core function of government: protecting residents and their rights. If they are too big, too far extended, they can no longer focus on what they should do. Money is wasted massively on everything government should not do, and, suddenly, there is not enough left for the few things government should have a role in. But this is on purpose, to grow government. That is why, whenever budgets are reduced, the actual important things are the first to go. The graft remains untouched.
Whatever your view of the virus, it is a massive clusterfuck. And it was mostly under the watchful eyes of governments spending trillions in total, north of 40% of GDP. BUT THEY ARE UNDERFUNDED!!!! How exactly is beyond me. But I believe this is the main argument of the left right now. No matter how much money government gets, if it fails it is underfunded. What would be well funded? Always more. It is a tidy little argument. It cannot fail. Except when communism, which is the final end of this kind of thinking, come. Ah, but that is never real communism. It never is.
As a note this is mostly a hot take post for me, in that I did not take time to re-read it a couple of times as I usually do, wrote in in like 20 min looked for obvious typos and submitted. Make of it what you will.
It was the perfect call !
How many languages do you speak? I’ve worked for/with guys who could spend the day contracting, managing, and selling in a third language; I’m impressed by people so wired.
only the two
Only…
Hot take or not, it’s excellent.
Concur.
+1
+2
Great hot take!
Yep. I unfortunately agree.
The CDC are a bunch of fuck-ups. Those plague movies with Dustin Hoffman and the other one where Geneth Paltrow spread a Chinese virus by being a whore – both wildly over-stated the competence and preparedness of the CDC. The FDA has done nothing but get in people’s way and actively hinder doctor’s finding effective treatments and getting them to patients. Same for governors.
Everyone will learn the wrong lessons while stroking their statist-boners.
The CDC is basically an entity where people with PhDs go to turn into feckless DMV employees. The problem will always be the bureaucracy and the inertia towards growing that and its power. Getting shit done is a low priority. Were they not doing a ton of climate change, attacking those that point out biology only has XX, XY, and XXY genders as ebul, shilling for Islam, pushing abortion, and doing anything but prepping for a pandemic like we have?
Yeah, but we need more government in healthcare…
Watching those people give a presser is watching Pournelle’s Iron Law being played out right in front of me.
Listen, vaping wasn’t going to go away on it’s own, the CDC had a big job to do there, right? What, you’re probably one of those neanderthals that think people should decide for themselves about smoking or vaping. Moron, don’t you know that 12-th hand smoke/vape is poisonous to all life – no, not just human life, all life. If people insist on fucking up their lives with nicotine addictions, then by god there is no lie we won’t tell to justify stomping all over their faces – all for their own good of course.
So while they pissed away time and tax payer money, they left the Obama era stockpiles depleted and managed to not have any kind of in place plan to deal with an event like the one we had. But hey, we need more big three letter agency oversight of other aspects of our lives! Yeah, sure…
The most irritating thing about Outbreak was the standard-issue military-as-bogeyman conspiracy theory, with the lady doctor and the black officer beating it.
Hollywood pablum. Always the same shit show, and they wonder why the fucking unwashed masses won’t spend $20 to watch that drivel on a big screen.
So what is everyone drinking?
I am having a glass of catleya perfect simplu feteasca neagra . not bad. young but drinkable right now.
Coke Zero.
Monster Energy Zero Ultra (white can, zero carbs, zero sugar)
So what is everyone drinking?
Diet Mountain Dew. It’s still the middle of the work day.
1. it is 7 pm
2. today was not a work day. it was a vacation day. A stay in home vacation, but still.
Mountain Dew and water right now. In a few hours I’m going to crack open this bottle of Don Julio 1942 and have a belt or two. Or three.
Not crab juice?
Bought a bottle of Brockmans gin today. Looking forward to trying it tonight.
seems light on the juniper
I’m not a gin aficionado – usually just Bombay Gin & Tonics, so we’ll see.
Are you gainfully employed again?
Not yet – in the interview process with two places.
Good luck!
If it makes you feel any better I managed to navigate getting my current job with no electricity for two weeks during Hurricane Sandy. Everybody was truly working from home.
Best wishes!
They’re branding the Red Cross donation bags now?
Red Dog no 20. #Day off before layoff!
googling that only returns
Red Dog Casino no deposit bonus codes 2020
not a drink of some sorts
Red Dog. By Miller Brewing
“The Plank Road name was resurrected in the 1990s to sell Icehouse and Red Dog as a more premium beer under a different name”
LOL. Icehouse was my swill of choice for parties in college.
The ice-brewed fad made some good beers, but more terrible ones.
See also “Colders 29”
Olympia Ice might have been the worst beer I had back then.
Fire brewed or GTFO.
Red Dog
Mixed Drink Recipe from Cocktail Builder
1 1/2 oz of Orange Juice
1/2 oz of Orange Vodka
3 oz of Ginger ale
2 oz of Crown Royal canadian whisky
1 1/2 oz of Cranberry Juice
this is closest
How about a Salty Dog?
#Day off before layoff!
Sorry.
yeah me too did not register that
Water with my lunch.
However, I did run to Kroger to score the obligatory TALL CANS for tonight’s happy hour. Didnt want to be a hypocrite
Cant guarantee that they’ll make it to 7 pm tho.
is that like 660 ml aka 2 beers worth?
Precisely
If they made my swill in 40 oz, it would be TALLER cans. But I cant find it around here.
When I was a kid my Dad would always say as Mom was serving dinner, “Bring on the Swill!”
My mother once overcooked the pork chops we were having for dinner. When she brought them to the table my younger brother said “oh, boy! Pork chips!”
She was not amused.
So will my crowler of Alpha Ambush IPL count as a tall can?
Just found out one of my locals is doing deals on beer to go (crowlers and just takeout).
My criteria is that the container has to look at home in a paper-bag.
I’ll let you decide. 32 ounce cans, filled with beer from tap.
Water. I might swing by the store on the way home and pick up something though.
I feel like Bourbon tonight!
It’s some bourbon or a gin martini (olives & olive juice, wave the vermouth bottle while still closed over the glass) for myself tonight.
No vermouth, not a martini.
Sorry, them’s the rules.
Heathen!
I waved the vermouth over the glass! That’s enough molecules for me, man…
I pour the vermouth over the ice then drain it.
The naturopathic martini.
So what is everyone drinking?
The bitter dregs of my disillusionment with my fellow subjects of the Imperial American Regime, Unlimited and Totipotent. And humanity in general.
I believe I have a barrel of that myself.
water
Tea with honey and lemon. No bourbon.
Coffee. Still at work.
Coffee when I woke up, unusual for me. During my meetings this morning I had a Murphy’s Irish Stout. At lunch I am having half a can of Sprite. Water the rest of the day.
I’m waiting until 4 pm eastern to start. When I start I plan on greatly reducing the quantity on Glenmorangie Lasanta in my home.
Irish breakfast tea.
The virus is a Rorschach test; people will find in it whatever they want to find.
Libertarians find government incompetence in the form of the FDA and the CDC holding up progress toward a solution.
Statists see a failure of private solutions and demand greater central control.
Obviously most (all?) people here bend toward the former.
Statists see a failure of private solutions and demand greater central control. – but how can you see that when governments usually restrict and regulate private involvement to whatever they allow? Private could not react as they were not allowed to.
South korea got the private sector in from the start by easing restrictions, and they got testing up and running faster than the majority. England on the other hand fell way behind relying on government. US FDA did similar.
“how can you see that when governments usually restrict and regulate private involvement to whatever they allow”
Don’t ask me why Statists see the world as they do; it’s like trying to understand the world through the eyes of an alien species. If they were persuadable with logic, they wouldn’t be rushing headlong into yet another commie/socialist experiment.
Statists prefer a world where government picks winners & losers, even if that exercise/responsibility causes the most amount of misery and deaths no matter the situation. For them it is about the world not being just (practically always because these “others” must have it better than them because these “others” have to be cheating, lying, and stealing [at least the honest ones will admit they mean more than they do] to be better off or at the same place they are) and only government somehow making it as close as just as possible. It’s about as stupid a vision as you can have and religious in nature. Replace an almighty god with government, and you get them and their need to recreate the concept of heaven on earth.
Absolutely. For that matter, everything is a Rorschach Test: projection is running neck and neck with prejudice and in the can of worms with confirmation bias that drives what most folk think about most things.
Dispassionate, even-handed discussion that refers to first principles is rare as hens’ teeth; I don’t know where the public would find decent thought leadership any more.
It’s been drummed out of intellectual society.
Dispassionate, even-handed discussion that refers to first principles is rare as hens’ teeth
Talk for your self, It just so happens that I’m always right…
I’ve decided that I was wrong about how thin the veneer was.
We shifted from seeking proactive, productive solutions to full blown panic and its accompanying corruption within a week.
^^^This.
I learned that I was far too optimistic about what the public would put up with. Our betters are taking notice of everything they’re getting away with so easily and will push the envelope even further next time.
Which is why I have no love for those who are defying the lesser shutdown restrictions in this environment. Provoking the government (and its supporting mob) will only result in further restrictions right now.
Just keep your head down.
Happened here last weekend. Everyone went to the beach so the Governor closed all the public accesses and public boat ramps for everyone except commercial fishermen.
Its incredible. And because I happened to have travel scheduled during that week (March 8 – 15), I had a front-row seat. People started dropping from the conference I was going to (about half), and we spent a good part of the conference watching the whole thing blow up on our phones and email. The Friday before – some cancellations, people mulling non-essential travel. By the time I got home on Friday – Full. Blown. Panic. The leading edge of the panic – toilet paper – was already underway the week before, but I think its fair to say we went from mild amusement at the TP hoarding to hair-on-fire in a week.
I was traveling that same week. My flight back was on the 13th, and the airport was already showing signs of less people. Staff at one of the bars said it was lighter then Thanksgiving day traffic.
+1 bias confirmation
I would posit that statists see government incompetence too—they just don’t give a shit.
Or embrace it.
Yes, because they are not interested in actually doing or “solving” anything. Only profiting from it.
Or blame it on the wrong Top Men having power.
The CDC Doctors Screwed Up Bigly! USNS Comfort in NY Harbor Sits Idle with 3 Patients — USNS Mercy in LA has Only 15 Patients
If I broke a leg or had a heart-attack, I’d rather be on one of those ships than in a NY hospital. But the stories of hospitals overflowing haven’t played out.
Nobody wants to go to the hospital right now. Last shift we had a guy beg us not to take him.
Tis but a scratch!
Really? Maybe I’m biased as an old Marine.
Marines who got wounded begged to get flown to a hospital ship instead of an Army field hospital. Those things had incredible reputations in the service. Had to drive a Marine with a foot wound up to one of the Kuwait City airports to be flown directly to a hospital ship in the Gulf because our Corpsmen were adamant that he not be sent to an Army hospital – they were sure the Army would amputate the foot.
No one needs more than two feet.
That’s *not* what she said.
If she has no feet she might be leaving snail tracks…
That bad, huh? What have I become?!
Odd…in Afghanistan and Iraq, both – I saw everyone try to get into the Army level III hospitals. “The Love Boat” was too busy with the crew getting impregnated.
Hmm… I believe the Army hospital system was reorganized between wars. Depending on where my wounds were, I still might choose “The Love Boat”.
““The Love Boat” was too busy with the crew getting impregnated.”
Checks out as to why the Marines wanted to go there.
Shouldn’t just be the squids riding the waves.
I have it on good authority that Marines don’t fuck sailors, they get fucked by them.
Somehow, I don’t think you were going to get impregnated.
The reason for this is not “fake models”, it’s the clusterfuck process they put in place to test patients for CV before transporting them over. AFAICT, New York hospitals ARE stretched and DO need this.
Then we get hit with, “Well, its better to have too many (much) than not enough. Its people like you that accept people dying as the alternative”
Every kid on Halloween knows that too much can be worse than not enough, whatever that means
People used to accept that dying was going to happen. My SIL’s father is all kinds of “at risk” and doesn’t give a shit. He’s told his doctor’s he isn’t eating rabbit food to extend his life and now he’s told his daughters he isn’t cowering at home. They are both furious with him for not panicking and doing everything possible to live an extra few months.
Hats off to the gent! The world is a scary place. Life is terminal.
Good on him. Life is not a game that awards bonus points for longevity, far more important to use the time we have as best we can. As Fourscore said, life is terminal.
goddamnit Not Adah you and your “The Importance of Being Earnest.”
Why? Are you watching it now?
worse really. I was reminded I had it on a dvd from my piratin days.
As a bit of story time, back then the internet was not that fast and hdd not that big, so I burned movies on dvds. I still have em if they still work. I have I don’t know the english term these notebook like things with plastic sleeves that hold dvds. I got nostalgic and went trough a bunch of old dvds holding pirated movies and anime. reminded me of what I was downloading back in the day. i have hundreds of movies i think
“english term these notebook like things with plastic sleeves that hold dvds”
binders?
I dunno you tell me
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cVmja9SJXXhpUV7gpAYetjog3-_whRJr/view?usp=drivesdk
DVD case.
A binder is what you keep your women in.
Yes
Just search amazon, etc. for “DVD binders”
I thought “binders” was sexist now and you can’t say it.
I’d call it an album.
It would be nice to be able to do some Bunburying right now.
I fucked up, whilst walking the dog, I saw a huge lineup of cars, then it hiT me, food bank, driveup style, so here we sit, in line. Hole I don’t piss myself……
Or hope
My Kroger was cray earlier. Not only is it 3rd of the month (Mother’s Day!) but everyone is repeating the same patterns from 2 weeks ago: carts loaded with TP and cases of water.
People must shit a lot more than me.
People are forced to buy toilet paper because they can’t steal it from work now.
The toilet paper at work is why I have hemorrhoids.
best of luck. driving means you probably don’t have much beer in you
It’s only 930 am here, and we are parked in a half mile long line, 50 feet in 30 minutes
But what if it is a decorative candle?
But Libertarianism is responsible for this entire problem to begin with so…. ~ every prog site
NewWife sent me some meme the upshot of which is that the popular opinion of libertarianism is Joe Exotic. That’s terribly unfair because that lesbian with the chewed off arm only looked half Mexican to me.
A lot of nonsense is being debited to our ledger. I liked it better when the reputation was just diaper fetishes and rubber boot-hats.
Most people can’t explain their own political beliefs, let alone those of a fringe 5% of the population.
/looks at the Libertarian party
They don’t help either…
I can’t tell you how many girls I have dated that when I told them I was a libertarian they asked me what that was.
“A Republican that likes weed”. – Democrat
“A Democrat that likes guns.” – Republican
Tell them you like butt sex. That always goes over well.
Back during Obamas first run, one of my (black) coworkers was shocked when I answered that I wouldn’t be voting for him. Her response was, “But… you’re not racist!” I then explained that I wasn’t voting for McCain either, and was going to go third party. She then said, “There’s more then two options?”
This year I am seriously thinking about John McAfee/Marc Randazza as a write-in combo.
Slogan: “McAfee/Randazza–because at this point, what difference does it make?”
Actually, voting for the Republican candidate on the ballot doesn’t make you a racist either. Just saying.
I’m only a couple of episodes into it, but I’m not really seeing the problem.
At this point in the series, I hate the filmmaker more than the characters.
I don’t have a problem with Joe at all. As long as I’m not being taxed to prop him up, he can ride tigers every hour of the day.
The popular critique is more about deportment than philosophy; building on Neph: he doesn’t have a philosophy, and neither do those who judge him. I think the average libertarian might have a gun or two, but the fairer view, hopefully, is as competent proprietor (plumber, coder, whatever) who’s not looking for a handout. Joe lives some of that, but the clown-suit is all anyone sees.
~ every prog site
Every ‘national conservative’ site too.
Statists gotta state.
It’s a good post. Depressing as hell, but a good one.
Every civilization goes through a cycle and starts dying at the point of peak prosperity.
tl;dr People have too much time on their hands and can stare into the abyss until it stares back.
Dan Carlin has some quote in his podcasts that goes something like “Every civilization goes up the stairs in boots and comes down the stairs in silk slippers”
Basically, when civilizations are growing and thriving it is because the population is hardy, but at some point they get too lazy and the civilization crumbles.
Hard times create hard men
Hard men create good times
Good times create soft men
Soft men create hard times
I am reminded of Earth Abides.
Time Machine
Clearly I need to catch up on Dan Carlin. I did his WWI series of podcasts and it was brilliant. Still don’t understand most of it, but I understand more of it than I did before (and probably more than most people).
The Wrath of the Khans (about the mongols) was how I first started listening to Carlin. That was a great series.
Seconded. That was some amazing audio documentarianism. Carlin does good work. I’ve also really enjoyed his series (well, I’ve enjoyed everything of his to which I’ve listened) about thermonuclear annihilation. Also, Caesar At Hastings is just the sort of historical pondering that really speaks to me.
Mojeaux, I really enjoyed the story. I have one of your books in my Kindle, but I haven’t read it yet.
I guess I need to bump it up the list.
Thanks for submitting it.
I’m thrilled you enjoyed it. It’s wildly different from my others, but a friend once told me she could tell my voice no matter what genre I wrote in and generally what people like about an author is their voice.
Nah. We’re kicking ass and taking names.
..
BTW, how can I get the new antibodies test? Convinced I already had this.
Spit a loogey into an envelope and mail it to the CDC. They’ll be in touch.
On it.
You might get a visit from the FBI if you do it that way….
Loogey is too difficult to analyze. Gotta be a semen sample.
How do you think he sealed the envelope?
This will illicit a visit by the IRS instead of the FBI…
But remember, to make the sample easier to get out you need to toss in some cornstarch, flour or other whiite powder.
Now we are talking!
Coming to a store near you.
This is why we need a bigger government.
https://www.rxwiki.com/news-article/fda-finalizes-rule-new-cigarette-package-warnings
Finally people will know cigarettes are dangerous.
I am reminded of the old joke
guy goes to buy a pack of cigarettes. the one he gets has a warning “may cause erectile dysfunction” so he asks the store clerk do you have any with cancer?
Two Louisville coronavirus patients and a family member have been ordered by circuit judges to isolate and wear tracking devices after health officials learned they’d been in public against medical advice.
Why not a yellow star? It was effective last time.
*I agree that knowing you’re likely contagious with something and going out in public is a dick move.
Poking the bear is a stupid fucking move that will cost us all liberties over the long run.
I thought we learned in the 40s that appeasement doesn’t work.
I wish the ladies would wear a big “A” so I wouldn’t make so many mistakes.
Alcoholics are easier to pick up.
If you have to pick them up, they’ve had too much to drink and they legally can’t consent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKWomkcd8B8
Umm, telling people to self-quarantine is not medical advice. Self-quarantine is not treatment. House arrest orders are, at best, public health, not medical. The two are very different. Although hardly anybody seems to get this.
Shut up peasant and do what you’re told.
Adblock wont let me in (and I dont trust the CJ enough to turn it off), does the article name the judges? Want to see if it is anyone I know.
“Issuing health-related civil orders is new territory for the courts, according to Judge Charles Cunningham, who issued two Friday.”
Name sounds vaguely familiar, but I don’t know anything about him.
As an afternoon reminder. Glibs Virtual Happy Hour, tonight starting at 19:00 Eastern.
Im still not guaranteeing that Ill have pants on.
I think we’re all counting on a drunken Tres striptease.
Schumer aint got nuthin on these m00bs!
(Chuck or Amy….take your pick)
Chuck looks like he can suck a golfball through a garden hose. Amy looks like she swallowed the golfball…
I’m guaranteeing I will not have pants on. It’s WFH MADNESS!
Is there a meeting number? Sorry I’m new to Zoom.
8675309
Thanks although I’ll be late due to being at work and on central time.
Built into the link. If you’d prefer, meeting number: 849 837 331
Reverse that order, and you have the measurements for my ideal woman.
If it lasts more than 6 hours I may join 😀
How many will have real visuals or will we be wearing masks?
So got a message from kid’s school. They will only be able to receive a C on all their grades (unless they had A or B as of March!) What the fuck shit is that.
well things are shit, it is good they learn this at a young age
Looks like the Unions have spoken
Our directives at this point are that the third quarter grades will be the semester 2 final grades. If students earned a D or F then they are able to raise that grade up to 1 letter, but if they earned a C or better then that grade is final. I will continue to post at least 1 new assignment per week to cover the 4th quarter content. If you earned a C or better 3rd quarter then this work is for you to learn, gain knowledge to help in further classes and life and stay sharp as a student
I hope that isn’t for high school (not that it is anything but bs anyway) because that affects gpa for college admission.
If students earned a D or F then they are able to raise that grade up to 1 letter, but if they earned a C or better then that grade is final.
Naturally, you have to hold back those that perform better.
Yep…high school. They have already revised it. My guess mine and other parents responses of bullshit might have had an play in that
That’s idiotic. The Karens aren’t going to stand for this, I promise you that. And for once, I’ll agree with them.
Speaking of how the gubmint allocates resources for this…
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/cuomo-signing-executive-order-to-take-and-redeploy-ventilators-in-new-york-81593413805
Those dirty upstaters aren’t his constituency!
Is you or is you not my constituency?
As it turned out, they isn’t.
“Everyone else, give us your ventilators! We’ll give them back when we’re done, I promise. Also, I want a million people to come in and help for free. This won’t cause any problems at all.”
Is that an advert for the Healthcare for all that the team blue geriatric crowd were peddling back when we were forced to watch them try to outdo each other on whom hated bad orange man the most on a stage?
Family member in the hospital system up here (2 hours north of NYC) heard reports of them coding any death in the city to the virus. All part of the nursing rumor mill but not surprising.
Remove the grain from Ukraine, send it to Moscow.
Someone should point out the correlation with Cuomo robbing these supplies from areas where voters are far more likely to vote against him, by large margins, to bring it to those that vote for him in numbers that exceed eligible voter turnout. Cause I bet you that if he had an “R” next to his name, they would be crucifying him for this act…
BridgeGate -> VentilatorGate
“WINNIE THE FLU”
LOL
“Commie cough” is starting to grow on me.
“Chink Croup” is a bit more edgy
Soccer link, but not really soccer related: Tottenham fans, supporters trust pile pressure on the club to financially support non-player staff
Tottenham Hotspur is rightfully catching a lot of criticism from its supporters and elsewhere for its decision earlier this week to furlough 40% of its non-playing staff and to take advantage of the UK government’s plan to cover 80% of those affected workers’ wages. Spurs also cut 20% off of the salary of non-furloughed workers, including executives.
Spurs aren’t the only club to do this — as of the time of this posting, Newcastle, Norwich and Bournemouth have all also taken advantage of the government’s furlough plan — but they are the only club who are not further supplementing in order to make sure that affected staff receive their full pay.
A lot of derp based on the notorious assumption that wealth = cash.
Who could have possibly seen that coming?
But, given the measures governments took in the end, it is clear the governments think it is bad.
Assumes facts not in evidence.
fine they want the public to think it is bad, but we know they know we know they know etc…
On the dead thread Scruff used a phrase that reminded me of an outstanding book: https://www.amazon.com/Drunkards-Walk-Randomness-Rules-Lives/dp/0307275175
I have had tremendous difficulty explaining the randomness in processes and in our lives; there remains an entirely unreasonable notions about foresight, management, decision-making, and execution. Leonard Mlodinow humorously collects some great examples that explain cognitive bias, luck, and a lot of other bits of bad math and thinking that are screwing people up at work and at home.
My favorite example is explaining to Dad how (just watch), all things being equal, most approach shots in golf fall short of the pin. People have terrible judgment of their own power and skills, the lay of the land, the vagaries of wind and temperature, and so they pull the wrong club: the optimistic club, the club that is perfect only for the perfect swing, a thing that happens maybe 20% of the time.
To be honest, I lifted that turn of phrase for Trump from the book.
How not to be Wrong: The Power of Mathematical Thinking is similar.
The example in this book that is interesting the RAF in WWII trying to figure out where to armor their planes. They gathered a ton of info on where planes had been hit with enemy fire to try to figure out where more armor was needed. Some mathematician looked at the data and told them to armor all the places that had 0 or very few bullet holes according to the data. The idea being that since sample set was only from planes that had returned, the data was only from planes who’s armoring had worked. So those planes hadn’t been hit in the unarmored areas (if they had they would have crashed).
Can’t take time to find the link, but you can actually find some of the actual diagrams and reports used in the analysis online – real story.
Better explanation of what I was blathering on about and some of the pics Pinesy was talking about.
I have that book, and it’s in the queue after I finish Meltdown by Tom Woods. I’ve leafed through it; sounds interesting.
Oh, bother…
OK it’s been long enough, have some T&A.
http://archive.is/Udgzo
That’s a top shelf collection.
This working from home has my dick so sore . . .
This proved to me that the government of the world are too preoccupied with things that should not be, in a free society, under the purview of government, in order to do what, in any non-anarchy, is the core function of government: protecting residents and their rights. If they are too big, too far extended, they can no longer focus on what they should do. Money is wasted massively on everything government should not do, and, suddenly, there is not enough left for the few things government should have a role in. But this is on purpose, to grow government. That is why, whenever budgets are reduced, the actual important things are the first to go. The graft remains untouched.
Mission creep. Bureaucratic empire building.
Forces as inexorable as gravity.
So my temp is normal. I still feel like crap. I think I spent around 12 hours in bed last night/this morning. My ribs hurt, but I’m not coughing.
I had that two weeks ago. I was zonked out for a day or two.
We both had the sore throat and low temp thing a couple weeks a ago too, if I remember correctly?
Did you ever get a fever?
Nope
Well, I guess that is different then.
Are you going to get tested?
I had a sore chest a couple weeks ago. Convinced myself I had it, then took an antacid and felt better, and foolish.
You’re not foolish. We are biologically designed to respond to perceived danger. I try to remember that when I see everyone around me losing their minds – they aren’t bad people, they aren’t even necessarily stupid. They are just responding to overwhelming stimulus that is short-circuiting their ability to reason.
My test is Monday.
hangover?
It’s good to hear your temp is normal. I think that is a good sign. Everything OK with your mom?
She seems to be taking this better than I am. So far, she says she feels fine. I made a bunch of adjustments and such, figured out a way with dessert cups and colored post-its so she can do her own medication, etc.
It’s still very perplexing to me how I could have caught anything since I was so careful. My biggest worry is that she caught it from me.
I hope for the best for you folks. Despite all this shit going on, I think you folks will be fine.
I hope you are right.
Fap to a few Demi Rose pictures and call us in the morning.
For those of you short on ammo, armsunlimited is having a sale on… 4.6 x 30mm? This is a cartridge? Ooooh, yeah, the MP7. That thing.
Since the whole world is buying guns, I figured why the hell not?
https://www.taurususa.com/firearms/revolvers/608/
Found a killer deal on GunBroker. Always wanted one because, 8 round cylinder? Hellz yeah!
Well, I would have bought it, had it not been tragically lost in a shipping accident.
I about fell over when our CMO told me he had just bought a gun – 9mm S&W Shield. I think its the first gun he’s bought, although he’s ex-Army so he should know how to handle it. Could only get a couple of boxes of ammo, though. I told him when my 1,000 rounds arrives in a couple weeks I’d front him some.
If we’re wearing bandanas over our faces, may as well have revolvers on our hips.
I will be ordering an open carry holster for the hogleg double-stack .45. Why the hell not? Open carry is legal here. Well, its legal everywhere under the 2A, but nobody is arresting anyone for it in AZ.
Which one do you have, sir? I’ve had my beloved Para-Ordnance P12 for many, many years with no complaints after a thorough lapping/fitting/polishing/spring & grip replacement. Recently, I viewed some DerpTube stuff about the Model 2011, new fancy double-stack .45 frames, but I’ve never seen one in person (not many opportunities in NYC).
P14-45. 5 inch full size 1911 with a 14 round mag. Just the way it came out of the box except for the grips, never any problems with it.
Someone of your means should look into picking up an Atlas Athena, something from Cabot, or at the very least a Hayes Custom Tac Ultra
This proved to me that the government of the world are too preoccupied with things that should not be, in a free society, under the purview of government, in order to do what, in any non-anarchy, is the core function of government: protecting residents
and theirrights. If they are too big, too far extended, they can no longer focus on what they should do.I agree they have gotten way off mission and this amended sentence is where I stand. I don’t know what I am. Am I an anarchist? AnCap? Constitutionalist? Fuck if I know. I jsut know I am pissed off.
Yes jsut!
I would be happy with strict Constitutionalism if there were some way to absolutely prevent mission creep. It seems impossible though.
I’ve been told that mental health problems associated with a collapsing economy and social isolation were a right-wing conspiracy theory.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/adored-man-34-takes-life-21809273
Dangerous ideas and their indicators:
1) some of the most dangerous ideas in the world are expressed immediately before or immediately after the phrase “if it saves one life”.
Agree? Disagree? Other indicators?
Agree.
Other indicator – “It’s for the children.”
Always a classic.
Taking the dog to the vet (annual visit and rabies shot). Feel free to insult me while I am away.
Agree. Ditto the phrase “every single person”
Agree. It justifies every single conceivable abuse and infringement, in emotional terms that most people find irresistable.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. -Pitt the Younger.
Major asshole alert:
Report the legislature, each court, and every press conference.
ignoring my #SaferAtHome order and putting profits over public health in your area?
How dare they try to provide for themselves! They are putting their profits over everyone else. This retard of a lawyer (hence the affection “judge”) has just demonstrated that when it comes to what those in power deem “public” necessity, your attempt to feed your family will be deemed as greedy profiteering.
In a more civilized time there were suggestions for where Mr Clay could be placed, feet first.
Still early, but we are tracking the actual confirmed cases in AZ, and we have a couple of days now where the increase is only 15 new cases. This is a slower rate of increase than over the last week, and comes with more testing. The vast majority of tests are still coming back negative, although there is a false negative rate that is estimated to be 10 – 15%.
If this holds through the weekend, then we may have already seen the peak here. At a level that is an order of magnitude or more below what the models said, and way below anything that would justify the panic and economic damage.
Good information. What is the lag between test/results?
Varies. The lab we use has a 2 – 3 day turnaround, I believe. Others are longer – 5 days, in that neighborhood.
I gather the real bottleneck for expanding testing is the specimen collection kits.
Still going up in Texas, though barely. Texas is the second largest population and has only seen like 80 deaths so far. Something feels off.
People need to be focusing on the rate of increase. There’s different ways to measure it – how many days to double is one. Percentage increase day-over-day (or other time period) is another. Our rate of increase appears to be slowing and may even have gone to zero, which if it bears out means we are close to rolling over the top of the bell curve.
the case load in TX is well below average
https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/
So does that mean we are behind the curve by several weeks or what?
Nobody knows. Could be that you have a higher population that is already immune, could be you are behind the curve. Remember: the odds are very high this thing dies out from the heat in May, so I believe we are running out the clock on it, at least this season. If you are far enough behind the curve, you will not have much of a curve.
We desperately need widespread antibody testing this summer, hopefully as a rebuttal to the inevitable attempts to reignite the panic next fall.
I mean it’s already been in the 90s here.
“We know that with the warmer weather this May, people want to go outside. However to keep flattening the curve I have issued orders that all non-essential people must stay indoors.”
And yet Dallas county just extended cower in place through May 20.
What happened to “flatten the curve”? The curve is already flattening.
the timing of the curves are offset to the same standard (case load or density), so you can compare TX to where other states were this many cases in
look at the normalized curve
I make a lot of warranty jokes, and these numbers are similar: rumors of war; but, after a few weeks, the weirdness and kinks and biases have averaged out; as a quality manager I like would say: directionally correct
of course, Plano’s one thing and Terlingua’s another; I’ve written there is no such thing (to the virus) as “China,” . . . . probably no such place as TX either
People need to be focusing on living their lives. I wrote a whole screed about this but honestly the one sentence covers everything in my opinion, all the rest was just me ranting and I need to stop.
How many tests? How many positives?
I’d have to go across the building to find out. Sorry.
They don’t have a phone you can call? :-p
“measures governments took in the end”
I’ve got a measure for the government to take in the end, IYKWIM.
“But I believe this is the main argument of the left right now. No matter how much money government gets, if it fails it is underfunded.”
Stick an “and” in there and you’ve nailed it.
Serious journalists want serious journalism
On Thursday, 74 journalism professors wrote an open letter to Fox Corporation chairman Rupert Murdoch and CEO Lachlan Murdoch claiming that coverage of the coronavirus from the company’s Fox News Channel “is a danger to public health.”
The professors cite the results of a YouGov/Economist poll that indicates “Americans who pay the most attention to Fox News are much less likely than others to say they are worried about the coronavirus,” according to their letter.
The letter says that “as the virus spread across the world, Fox News hosts and guests minimized the dangers, accusing Democrats and the media of inflating the dangers (in Sean Hannity’s words) to ‘bludgeon Trump with this hew hoax.'”
Whycome you no on hobgoblin bandwagon?
Terrorizing the rubes is your sacred duty.
I just love these people, they are walking, talking parodies.
Again, look at the bottom right graph here.
Since the whole world is buying guns, I figured why the hell not?
https://www.taurususa.com/firearms/revolvers/608/
Found a killer deal on GunBroker. Always wanted one because, 8 round cylinder? Hellz yeah!
Is that a .357?
Of course, i had to do some window shopping after I clicked on the link. Oh, look, a 1911 “commander” with full size frame and 4.2″ barrel in .45acp.
My next build. On an aluminum 80%.
“Is that a .357?”
It is indeed.
Had Caesar not decreed the shop closed, I would have had the paperwork going on this:
https://www.centerfiresystems.com/p-76315-sds-imports-zig-m1911a1-us-army-model-45-acp-5-full-size-pistol.aspx
Agree. It justifies every single conceivable abuse and infringement, in emotional terms that most people find irresistable.
You can’t put a price tag on a human life!
Sure you can. Life is cheap – supply outpaces demand.
Gov Gretchen bans boats…
F-U.
If you become sick and infect someone else, you are a killer – nice.
Just wait until they begin charging scofflaws with attempted homicide.
How about inducing panic?
Fucking Columbus cops.
“Police say Ahmed could not provide officers with an essential reason why he was outside during a stay-at-home order. ”
He was taking his gun for a walk. Duh.
Yeah, he’s not the brightest criminal (I mean, he got caught).
I guess saying: “If i don’t get some fresh air i’ll fucking murder someone” is not an appropriate response?
Sunshine is the best disinfectant, for the body and the soul.
People need to start ignoring this horseshit and fast.
I may indeed start to ignore the horseshit, but I plan to continue eating.
*narrows gaze*
Maybe the reason I want to leave the house is so that I’m less likely to kill my girlfriend?
I think it’s time we ban Sex and Cohabitation. Every person a home!
C’mon! This sort of shit has got to end up in some torch carrying mobs doesn’t it?
It seems like they are just fucking with us at this point. Over/under on when they go for closing liquor stores?
Shit like this is stupid on the face of it. Kayaking and boating should be things that you can do with very low tolerance of risk. You know how many times I’ve needed the Coast Guard? Zero. You know how many CG resources are on local lakes? None (at least in MN).
And even if the Sheriff’s water patrol has to come save me, most of them are young enough to be in the low risk pool anyhow.
That whole quote is dumb, idiotic and asinine. If we had a functioning press corps, the dolt wouldn’t have been able to finish because of all the scornful questions that were shouted at him.
“This sort of shit has got to end up in some torch carrying mobs doesn’t it?”
One would hope, but I grow more pessimistic by the day.
#MeToo
My biggest fear now is that if I go out in public, I’m not going to get the virus, but I’ll go on some rage filled rant and get arrested for not kneeling to the King.
Over/under on when they go for closing liquor stores?
State or private? In Va I believe they will remain open because state $$$.
Either way, I’d hope they know better.
I should point out that my boat has no door knobs. Neither does my kayak. And I’m way more than six feet away from anyone else.
I guess I could invite Tundra and Leap to go fishing with me and we’d be about 4 feet away from each other. Maybe corona viruses stick extra hard to shared wax worms or something? I know I wouldn’t let either of those two stick their mitts into my beer cooler. They would have to bring their own. (Same with schnapps. Bring your own).
Keep your shared wax worms to yourself, Mister!
Barely even a euphemism.
I’m in.
But no worm-sharing. Leeches, on the other hand…
It’s cause they suck right?
I’m really, really, really worried that my local bait shop isn’t going to re-open. The couple that runs it are normally on vacation between the end of Feb and opener (May). So I’m hoping this isn’t the nut punch it could have been.
And you can’t share my leeches either! Fucking fishing with greedy libertarians is the worst!
“invite Tundra and Leap to go fishing with me and we’d be about 4 feet away from each other.”
Obvious you need a bigger boat, what kind of MN guy are you?
You know who else needed a bigger boat?
“This sort of shit has got to end up in some torch carrying mobs doesn’t it?”
If it does, the MSM won’t cover it.
Actually that would be funny – govt was brought down by a mob and we missed it (deliberately).
In other news, fuck this guy:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8184051/Chinas-coronavirus-expert-warns-global-disaster-fails-contain-COVID-19.html
Vermont Government Orders Big Box Retailers to Stop Selling ‘Non-Essential’ Goods
What sort of goods are considered non-essential?
Arts and crafts
Beauty supplies
Carpet and flooring
Clothing
Consumer electronics
Entertainment (books, music, movies)
Furniture
Home and garden
Jewelry
Paint
Photo services
Sports equipment
Toys
Sit at home and stare at the wall, citizen!
The state says stores must restrict access to nonessential goods by close [sic] aisles, closing portions of the store or removing items from the floor. The order says “showrooms and garden sections of large home improvement centers should be closed.”
Quarantine is no time to take advantage of a chance to do household projects.
Thank the gods that digital delivery is still available to them. Of course, I’m going to guess that if you need a new router during these times, you’re fucked.
Clothing is non-essential?
Interesting.
The stupid is positively fluorescent. There is no reason to limit what is sold. People don’t catch the Commie Cough from some of the things they buy, but not others. At worst, limit the number of people in the store, probably based on square footage.
Shouldn’t even bother with limiting that. I’ve been to stores (grocers, Target, Walmart) almost every day (morning, noon, and night) since this shit started and the only time any store I was in was crowded was Day Two.
Can’t even watch the goddamned paint dry.
I told the check out at Walmart that anyone that had a job was essential, otherwise they wouldn’t have been hired. Not sure she understood.
Another theory shot to shit immediately.
…unless they were required to be hired. Then their job is undoubtedly non-essential.
WTF
We’ve completely jumped over productive measures to limit the spread to full-blown lunacy.
Yea, who the fuck needs a cell phone or a computer? It’s not like people need to check in with elderly relatives or work from home or anything…
Home repairs are completely unnecessary. Your downstairs bath is regurgitating shit-water? Sorry comrade, you’ll have to just endure it in the name of Public Health™.
If I had nothing else to do right now, I would be reading the Michigan and Vermont state constitutions right now to see where the governors get this kind of power.
Usually tucked away in a statue. Nevada’s is NRS 414
Also our fuck head Guv stated this in his declaration as where his power is derived to be our sole rule making body
Article 5, Section 1; Nevada State Constitution
“Supreme executive power vested in governor”
“Supreme”, Wow, that beats my natural rights right there. Sorry to have troubled you, guvneh
That’s a phrase you must love to hear.
IMO he twisted the intent which means he is the head of the Executive…not of government.
But what do I know Im just a lowly plebe that must follow orders
FUCK OFF, SLAVERS!!! A plain reading of that clearly states that the Gov may boss around his state agencies willy-nilly, not that there is any compulsion for the citizenry to play along.
Problem is, all our local news is non-critical and bought in to whatever the Governor’s message is. No one is asking questions…legislators are non-existent, local boards that tried to fight back were beaten into submission.
He and the Chief Medical Officer are the State’s Overload right now and no one…NO ONE is even trying to question.
At least in the Ohio briefing yesterday, the very first question asked was how are people supposed to pay their bills when they can’t work.
Free monies LIBTARD!!11!! Did I do that right?
I wonder why they don’t ask this at the Illinois briefings.
The only questions our Gov. gets from the press have to do with why he isn’t cracking down on everything a lot harder.
Same here in Iowa.
made my semi-weekly trip to the grovery store.
I left wanting to enact violence on the cashier and the other customers.
Buncha cuntes.
How’d did it go, UCS? Regular or CV?
I was trying to go about business as normal, and everyone was trying to be little authoritarians.
I left wanting to enact violence on the cashier and the other customers.
But you forgot to wear your enacting gloves.
No critical analysis, Pie, but I think you nailed it.
Had Caesar not decreed the shop closed, I would have had the paperwork going on this:
340 bucks? That’s a DEAL.
It was $399 at the LGS.
Shipping and transfer fees make that online $339 just/almost as much.
Most here know this but for those who don’t, I give you the executive director of the World Health Organization.
Even if you could at least see the argument that a competent centralized overseer is invaluable, it’s always some craven fuckstick like the above who rises to the top, never the guy you only know as “the only guy at Home Depot with half a clue.”
You know why I think this is a big giant farce? Because there are no good breakdowns of people who have died from this. Why? Because it doesn’t support the narrative.
This is the best I’ve seen and it is from Israel.
If the victims were spread across all the demographics and it was bringing down cute photogenic kids, we’d be reading all about it.
Another reason I won’t believe anything that comes out the capitol is because they still are claiming that tens of thousands are going to die. G-Walz is claiming that destroying our state will reduce the death count from 70K to 50K. (Currently 22 dead).
The Washington modelers meanwhile predicted 2K deaths (since revised to 1K because of cower in place rules).
None of the press seem at all interested in grilling the state on where their numbers came from.
And too many people I know just go with whatever the govt tells them. None of them seem to be able to look at those numbers and think on their own “that sure seems like a lot”.
Let’s see, 22 over 5 million, so about 18 %, right. Damn, this is serious, 18%. Now that’s the way you do math, never show your work, you’ll just have to take my word for it.
NYC breakdown:
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-daily-data-summary-deaths.pdf
So according to this, 97.8% of people who died had underlying conditions.
SHUT THE FUCK UP STATISTITARD
The place for thoughtful commentary is totes Twitter.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/twitter-worst-kinds-of-people/
As a celibate virgin I approve of their first example.
I’m really drunk and may be misreading this.
I think we need to make it a Glib mission to find you a wife.
You’re Catholic right? I’m assuming you want someone similarly devout and with a great rack. Let’s put this lousy chat room to work!
http://www.catholicmatch.com
catholicdating.match.com
Now we need a profile.
Name: CPRM
Occupation: Animating an Anthropomorphized version of Donald Trumps Hat and Hair for the entertainment of social group of delinquents and miscreants.
^^^Panty peeler.
Skills: Drinking and social distancing before it was cool.
41? aint no one have time for that
What sort of goods are considered non-essential?
Arts and crafts
Beauty supplies
Carpet and flooring
Clothing
Consumer electronics
Entertainment (books, music, movies)
Furniture
Home and garden
Jewelry
Paint
Photo services
Sports equipment
Toys
It’s for your own good.
And we wouldn’t want evil companies like Walmart earning a profit.
I am spending some quarantine time on projects, like gardening, getting my chimney repaired for next winter, etc. Businesses like these will go under if we can’t visit them now.
Another good thing about not putting “cower in place” rules is that it keeps people feeling productive and in charge of their destinies. It’s good for moral fiber—probably why the statists are eager to contain our freedom and self reliance.
How is clothing, outsidecof this group, not essential?
Home and Garden? Keeping your home functional seems pretty important right now.
Even when London was being bombed daily I am sure you could go out and get jewelry or I don’t know…supplies to make homemade masks since you cant buy any….
I guess I can’t mow my lawn this year. We’ll see how that goes over with the local polizei.
“Mower’s busted. Hardware store locked down by you lot. Am I supposed to cut it with scissors? Wait, don’t answer that.”
“You can just pay the fine.”
And you know that if you were out in your lawn with a scythe, you’d be ventilated by the popo in no time.
Work ground to a halt. I am now studying an accounting textbook to maintain some semblance of productivity and justify drawing a paycheck.
This is just dumb. https://youtu.be/Z1umT7OKUqA
#MeToo
I’ve run out of things to pretend to be doing. I’m drawing a check and carding out Game 7 of 1997.
We have to work on useful things only (no overhead like training) and if we run out, we have to take vacation, and if that runs out, have to take unpaid leave. Ouch. Thanks, gubmint.
I have finished all my online training through 2021…I just set my lynx to available, run music player in bsckground and it looks like I am on the computer all day long
Our Professional Employer Org (PEO) this afternoon sent us some info about paid leave provisions included in the FFCRA. Can’t easily link on my phone, but check out http://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/ffcra . It may or may not help you, but it might help someone here. I’m told businesses may get tax credits (on payroll taxes?) if they can document expenses based on specific COVID time off payroll codes.
I played Football game using a deck of cards and sheet of paper when I was a kid.
I’d draw out a grid with two stacked rectangles connected to five squares for each rectangle. Rectangles for the team name, squares for the quarters and total score.
Draw that out about fifteen times then copy the page as you wish. Pick a college team, then fill out a season before playing.
I’d then shuffle the deck randomly pull twenty cards, split them in two, then play the decks against each other.
Jokers worth 15 and 0
Aces 14
Kings13
Queens 12
Jack’s 11
Number cards keep their value
When the high card is subtracted by the low card to a total of 8,7,6,3, the deck with the high card gets those points. Play a quarter, shuffle the decks, repeat until four quarters, add the total for the final score.
It’s a good time killer, I guess.
*shrugs*
This is like the Soviet Union, but with nice cars, thousands of cars, probably going to run out of food before the line ends,
/ End of Days …….
I finally have my answer as to why we weren’t buying the available masks off of Alibaba.
The FDA wouldn’t allow non-NIOSH-approved N95 respirators to be imported until 3/24.
More evil: FDA or DEA?
Aggressively murdering versus passive-aggressive murdering… tough call.
As I said above – they are the embodiment of the Iron Law of Bureaucracy. I would have guessed that they would have gotten out the way during a pandemic – but nope, they are still protecting their turf.
But we are past March 24th.
I asked this question a few days ago.
Alibaba representatives were present for one of Cuomo’s pressers over a week ago – he specifically called them out for their procurement assistance.
Re: FDA approval of alternate certification – this was looked at early-on and quality standards weren’t the same, fraud was a concern, and other countries returned defective masks.
https://news.yahoo.com/netherlands-recalled-600-000-coronavirus-090511130.html
I blame 3M
Judge is asshole.
A federal judge on Tuesday denied a request to force Ventura County, Calif., to reopen gun stores forced to close in response to the coronavirus.
Judge Consuelo B. Marshall, a Jimmy Carter appointee, of the District Court for the Central District of California, said she would not grant a temporary restraining order against the county’s shutdown order. Her decision is one of the first in the legal battle over pandemic-related closures of gun businesses. It may indicate the court fights could drag on for weeks and produce mixed results even as Americans buy guns for self-protection at a record pace.
“While the public interest is served by protecting Second Amendment rights, the public interest is also served by protecting the public health by limiting the spread of a virulent disease,” Marshall said in a ruling.
I don’t believe the words “public interest/health” appear in the constitution. And I don’t know how something that is in the supposed “interest” of the “public” supersedes a constitutionally acknowledged right.
“a Jimmy Carter appointee”
Christ, how old is this bitch?
Not only that, but never even elevated above district court?
I am normally an optimist…but that is fading daily
Fuck… Mid-June?
I dunno man my improvised gym gear will not last more than early may I hope to be done by then.
OT: Were you the mastermind of Glib’s Beer It Forward?
I wouldn’t say mastermind, but I ran several of them here.
The other day someone commented about not being to find pork (he was planning to get out the smoker). Living in a pork-rich state it made me think about who else may be missing something they typically enjoy and I was wondering whether a “Pay it Forward” Glib exchange (at a later date, or do something nice for someone else) might be of-interest.
Feel free to run with it. Keep in mind that shipping isn’t cheap, and if you’re going for perishables (like pork), the shipping costs ramp up quickly as you need overnight (and dry ice and a cooler).
Last I saw anything about Sununu bloviating, he pushed off the peak in NH. Earlier this week he said something about “two weeks” or so for the peak. Then yesterday or so he said, “three or four weeks.”
Fuck.
What the fuck did the Cleveland Clinic do to become so prominent? Our local news shows potted health “news” shit from them all the time.
Very highly regarded cardiology department, and ranks up with the Mayo Clinic for general reputation. You want a heart transplant or open heart surgery, you go to Cleveland (and quite a few Saudi royals have).
I’ve heard they were good. But I also read yesterday about a railroad executive who died in his office from a massive heart attack two hours after his annual visit to Cleveland Clinic gave him a good bill of health. You just never know.
IMF Chief just said the pandemic is “humanity’s darkest hour” and “a crisis like no other”
As others here have stated, we are screwed in the event of a real crisis.
“humanity’s darkest hour” – I mean i think the agencies have a secret out stupid each other contest
Mount Toba would like a word
Paul Ehrlich approves
‘The Population Bomb’ made dire predictions—and triggered a wave of repression around the world
Damn. That is pretty hard on someone whom i’ve rarely seen critiques of in the popular press.
Surprising to see this in the Smithsonian mag. Some censor is sleeping on the job.
“darkest hour” as in succumbing to authoritarianism?
the pandemic is “humanity’s darkest hour”
Its not even on the list of darkest hours in the last couple hundred years, you cunte.
They want to feel important.
The disease itself isn’t, but when the response triggers Great Depression II which I am increasingly convinced it will, and the US slips all the way into socialism, that will be way up on the darkest hours list.
The disease itself is a fart in the wind. You’re absolutely right that it set the stage for greatly accelerating the decline of Western civilization.
Power grab, nothing more….
Well, there’s a lot of downers on this site these past few days. Let’s see if I can help lift some spirits — eyecandy from my studio to brighten the male Glibs’ day. My apologies in advance to all the mythical glib females out there, I don’t actually have good images of male eye candy.
Who dat?
A friend and one of my favourite studio models of all time. I posted another image of her a few evenings ago. (Click on either image to see a larger version.)
Let’s set her up with CPRM.
She’s happily married and has two adorable kids.
Sorry, CPRM.
Let’s just shut everything down permanently.
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/dallas-county-extends-stay-at-home-order-until-may-20/2344965/
Fuck this. Fuck this. Fuck this. Fuck this.
At least those counties are doing it and not Supreme Governor’s Ruling for the whole state…at least.
My wife has fallen down the 5g = coronavirus rabbit hole. Send help.
Um, what?
I am missing some context as to what that means. Care to elaborate?
Conspiracy theory that turning on 5g towers in Wuhan has somehow caused the virus.
*headdesk*
She’s rightly questioning why we so easily surrendered our lives to the government over a virus. Spending too much time on a dead end though.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-coronavirus-5g/false-claim-5g-networks-are-making-people-sick-not-coronavirus-idUSKBN2133TI
Some believe that the virus is propagated where 5g is being deployed
5G devices have terrible security and are prone to viruses. Just about everything 5G is made in China.
The Commie Cough is a virus. From China.
WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!
Qanon approves.
I am so sorry.
I think that’s a terminal condition.
Normally I am glad Nevada is a biennial congress. However, this is when you should be holding emergency sessions and meeting to challenge the executive.
Have they re-closed Vegas?
I don’t believe Vegas opened back up.
I have to either cancel or reschedule the road trip with my dad because of this garbage.
The way the Governor is going…cancell all the way up to summer
My wife has a close friend that has been having a tough time and she’s prone to depression even in good times. She loves to sew, so my wife sent her a link to plague mask pattern (they’re real simple) and suggested she sell them on etsy. She did that and now is having trouble keeping up with the orders. She’s now busy doing something useful and making a few needed bucks. It’s been a real pickup for her.
Excellent.
That’s a great idea!
That is awesome. Capitalism will find a way.
just don’t get arrested at the Hobby Lobby picking up supplies !
That’s what Walmart is for.
Not in Vermont!
Etsy to ban the sale of masks to prevent price gouging and hording.
Easy to imagine, but it won’t be Etsy leading that charge. They’ll be forced.
I’m surprised Etsy is letting her do that.
Ferrets are adorable, but extremely destructive. That is all.
Ope, what? That’s your pet species of choice?
*melts from adorable*
When you share a house with an 11 year old girl, and her father who spoils her you are not limited to pet species of choice. We have 2 dogs, a cat, and a ferret at the moment. Previous permanent residents have been other dogs (never more than two at a time) other cats, and a rabbit. Temporary residents (school pets we have kept for the summer) include hermit crabs, a snake, and a tarantula. I personally have none at the moment since my cat died last summer, but as the more or less responsible person here (hey it is a curve) I do a lot of the pet care, including letting Chaos (the ferret) roam free in my room while I
work from homespend my days yelling at the world.Are they a member of the terrier family?
Weasel.
I got it. I call our obnoxious dog a terrierist.
When our two get all spun up they are the world’s shortest barbarian horde.
If I had a spare $9000 lying around, I would totally get one of those Siberian domesticated red foxes.
Is that what they’re calling Russian mail-order brides these days?
No way man, the brides are much cheaper.
A lot more than $9K.
And they aren’t really domesticated.
I had a chinchilla once.
I think Huskies are adorable because they talk, but I wouldn’t get any other animal but a cat. Every time a cat gets old I say “no more” and then said cat dies and I’ve got new cats within a week. I cannot STAND to be alone in a house without a kitty soul in it.
I wouldn’t say they’re adorable, but the homeowner of a house I worked on recently had an absolutely beautiful Pharaoh Hound.
Never seen one before.
I set the garbage bag on the kitchen floor while I went out to start my car this morning with the intention of coming back in to take it out when I left for work. By the time I got back in the cat had chewed a hole in the bag and was eating garbage food. I was less than pleased. But that was not as bad as when I came home one day to find a bag that had been torn from the can and trash strewn about. I have to keep the trashcan in the laundry room with the door closed.
Things my cat has broken/ruined:
Television (knocked off stand)
Futon and Frame (urine)
3 lamps (all knocked over)
Carpet in my entryway (torn up trying to scratch under the door to the garage)
On top of eating a bunch of styrofoam and requiring a $3000 operation when he was 3 months old.
Oh and I thought holes in my drapes and back were bad…
https://imgur.com/a/Q5URSnd
requiring a $3000 operation when he was 3 months old.
Cat’s only cost $30 at the humane society her .. . . just sayin’
His is a designer cat. I got mine at the spca. When one/both croak, I kinda want to get a Russian Blue. But maybe not if they eat styrofoam requiring expensive procedures to fix.
In spite of my grievances with him, he doesn’t have a mean bone in his body. Very smart too; plays fetch and has figured out how to use doorhandles (which is rather annoying but funny).
Dang.
Television
One of mine likes to get on the wall-mounted tv in the bedroom. So far so good since it is the smaller of the 2. (Bitch has put paw-prints on the screen though, not happy about that.). Andnow that I think about it, they both get on that tv. Hopefully they do not try at the same time…
3 lamps
The little one also tried to break one of my nightstand lamps. Startled me when she knocked it off the nightstand in the middle of the night. I suspect she tried to jump on top of it.
The other one is larger and a male. Hopefully he sticks to being a total pig by trying to get in the trashcan and taking tupperware out of the sink (even right after being fed…pisses me off…) instead of doing any real/expensive damage.
The most destruction I’ve had a pet do was a dog that dug through the carpeting and sub-flooring to get out of a room to mate. He was fixed immediately thereafter.
A long time ago, my Newfie chewed through the door to the garage and bit all the plugs off my power tools.
A few weeks later, he latched onto the garden hose and broke off the pipe for the hose bib inside the wall.
The pits have been more in the chewing-on-furniture mode.
… I was confused when I misread that as ‘Newwife’.
Did he actually crush that ass or did you get him before?
We got home before his escape tunnel was complete.
Too bad.
The bitch’s owner would probably disagree considering what a misshapen mongrel he was.
Oh come on, if he’d reached her, he’d clearly have been an expert digger.
I’m sure there’s probably a competitive caninedigging league out there somewhere…
We had 3 ferrets many years ago. I don’t remember them being especially destructive, but they were fearless. The three of them would encircle the Doberman and then take turns charging in on exposed flanks. They were just playing and the dog was a good sport about it. We even have a picture somewhere of a ferret hanging off her lip in midair.
I’ve already promised my daughter she can have her two of her own as soon as she’s old enough to change the litter box.
Unreconstructed and I had a fraternity brother that had a ferret. It was entertaining. But what we did NOT expect was exactly how fast it ripped the throat out of someone else’s pet rat. Like literally bit the trachea completely out.
You put a ferret in the vicinity of it’s natural prey?
It was an unfortunate encounter in a common area. Fortunately, the pet rat had only been a pet for a day or so at that point, so the loss felt by the owner was less than the impression made by getting to watch the kill up close.
I knew someone who managed to “tame” a squirrel. The thing lived inside his store, and would come over and sit on peoples’ shoulders. If someone left the door open, it would sit there and look out the door until someone closed it. Most people usually freaked out the first time they saw it running around the store.
Squirrels are little trouble makers, but cute. Rats are cute and very trainable. I’m a rat fan.
Looks like our Glibs that live in Japan may be there for a while.
Americans warned to leave Japan or risk long stay as virus cases surge
You know who else deported people before locking them up indefinitely?
FDR?
I knew I liked you.
Likewise!
FDR?
GAIJIN GO HOME!
Illegal immigrant loophole!
Lefties discover the necessity of self-defense?
https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/04/02/yes-liberals-are-buying-guns-too/
Naw, the cognitive dissonance won’t allow it.
Most of the guntubers have posts: “Welcome New Gun Owners!”
How can that be when all the leftist states banned guns and won’t process the purchases?
GHOST GUNZ!!!11!1!
I really should be saving up for the glut of never-fired used guns that will be hitting the market the week after the dempanic shutdown ends.
Hmmm…work bonuses should come through this month…I see an opportunity!
Why i weep…
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/flatten-the-curve-dr-faucis-face-will-soon-be-on-a-bobblehead-1998279/
So in quarantine activities for Pie, I am doing an online wine tasting tonight. They will also allow us to buy at a discount en primeur but a minimum of 6 bottles which is more than I usually buy of 1 wine.