I’m with whom?

by | May 30, 2020 | Beer, Food & Drink, Libertarianism, Politics | 318 comments

Last week I discovered people were having too much fun watching the LP debates, hosted on YouTube by John Stossel.  Naturally I grabbed a beer and some headphones but tuned in fairly late around the time Vermin Supreme lit up a joint as his answer to the legalization question.  I was disappointed in the lack of McAfee.

This is my review of The Shop Beer Co. Church Music IPA

Eventually, the LP picked Jo Jorgensen, who on the surface appears to be better than Bill Weld; such is the nature of being the tallest midget.  I will not say they need to have one of those Project Runway style makeovers on her, but they really need to get a better file photo. A brief overview of her can be found at this link (TW:  TOS).

What I thought was a bit humorous was one of her first acts as the LP nominee was to repurpose an old Twitter hashtag.

Which naturally got a certain group of people upset.

Then a thought occurs to me:  did she just troll the left?

I suppose it is possible.

She does hold a PhD in Industrial/Organizational Psychology.  This field of study focuses on individual and group behavior in the workplace, and how one might address organizational and performance issues from a psychological standpoint.  In light of this, it stands to reason she might understand trolling on a conceptual level, since anybody spending any amount of time in the internet knows it is a virtual playground populated mostly by spastic ungulates willing to prove the fragility of their psyche the second something threatens their salt lick.

Going by Michael Malice’s definition of trolling she needed to have done it for sake of amusement, but this seems unlikely.  I don’t know enough about her to throw my vote away just yet but in case anyone is interested she did do a podcast with Larry Sharpe, and another on Dave Smith’s podcast.  She’s stuck to standard libertarian dogma up to this point, but if one of the first things she does is steal from Trump’s playbook to piss people off, she might at least be more entertaining than we think.

On a second thought, this could just be a fluke.

 

This is the one I drank during the debate.  This is one of those part fruity, part skunky IPA that everyone either loves or hates.  I am willing to admit I was drawn in by the 1980’s retro graphics on the can, but I am otherwise meh on this one. The Shop Beer Co. Church Music IPA:  2.8/5

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318 Comments

  1. PieInTheSky

    I don’t know enough about her to throw my vote away just yet – that vote is junk anyway. de-clutter

    • Jarflax

      Does the vote bring you joy?

      • AlmightyJB

        I’ll spark joy with her:)

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Joy is a dubious word.

    • Sean

      Would you like a mail in ballot, Pie?

      I’m sure you can get one if you vote Democrat.

  2. Yusef drives a Kia

    I love how the ’80s is now Retro….

    • AlmightyJB

      When with the Hot Topic/Goth items from the aughts be retro:)

      • mexican sharpshooter

        There won’t be malls for Hot Topic to be open by then.

      • AlmightyJB

        But will Amazon carry the merch as retro? I’m hoping that happens when my granddaughter is in HS so I can laugh at her mom:)

    • Oy the Billy-Bumbler

      I think I have a pair of jeans that I purchased in the 90’s. I’m pretty sure they are retro as well. Levi’s silver tab in black.

      • Tejicano

        I have a pair of jeans from the 90’s = a Thai knock-off that perfectly matches the Levis fabric, cut, rivets and all details except the little red tag says “LEDOG”. I wish I would have bought a half-dozen of them.

    • Rhywun

      We’ve known this for… months?… and the MSM is all ?

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        The MSM are political zealots and/or retards, every damn one of them. As you say, we’ve known about the need for zinc when using hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus for a while now.

    • J. Frank Parnell

      At least the replies are sane.

      Thank you Doctor Adams, because obviously with every hospital in the world desperate for ways to treat covid, only you and your conservative friends have the wisdom to see what every medical professional in the world cant. Yeah we are all in on it to screw trump.

      and

      Those of us who rely upon natural remedies and homeopathy have always known about the zinc connection, but Big Pharma hates anything that boosts the body’s immune system because there’s very little money to be made off of an informed, healthy population.

      • hayeksplosives

        Zinc does help shorten and lessen the effects of the common cold. I take zinc tablets “Zicam” at the first sign of a cold or itchy sore throat.

        There’s a tablet form and a q-tip form. The Qtip is a Single-use plastic cylinder soaked in medicine on one end. Just twist the cap to break off the lid, and swab into your nose as far as you can stand.

        If I thought I had Covid, I’d take the Zicam, both forms.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        Thanks. I use oil of oregano but will get some of this.

      • peachy rex

        The fiancee uses oregano oil. Judging by her reaction to it, I’d rather just get the plague.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        Yeah it is nasty as hell lol.

      • Raven Nation

        I listened to a podcast a few years back where they interviewed a few people who suffered unusual side effects from Zicam. It included loss of taste but also a “false odor” syndrome. They could smell things that were not present, including rotting garbage.

        Very rare, but “the more you know.”

      • Surly Knott

        And the pills will be cheaper.
        For the guys, zinc is also good for prostate health.

      • Ted S.

        I thought masturbation was good for prostate health!

      • Gender Traitor

        Better safe than sorry!

      • Ayn Random Variation

        I just got the chewable gummie Zicam. They had a version of Zicam that said it was “zinc free” on the package. sounds like beer with no alcohol.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Homeopathy lol

    • RAHeinlein

      Former Democratic presidential candidate Amy Klobuchar has now admitted her husband was treated with HCQ after he contracted coronavirus. After his rapid recovery, Senator Klobuchar said (through gritted teeth): ‘I believe he did briefly take that drug.’

      • Ayn Random Variation

        Ha. Had a flashback to “…that woman..”

      • Fatty Bolger

        Briefly. . . so I guess it worked, huh?

  3. Q Continuum

    The LP is a pathetic joke. I haven’t even considered voting for them in a decade.

    I’m gonna hold my nose and vote Trump; more important vote is for Cory Gardner, who’s going to need all the help he can get. A Jackass Senate will anally ream us with judiciary picks.

    • creech

      Maybe if every libertarian joined, and they had 100,000 members instead of 15,000, the group would attract more outstanding leadership and more qualified candidates? Libertarian votes for Trump are wasted: votes are counted, not weighed. No one in Trump campaign is going to look at his umpteen million votes and say, “you know here’s a couple that hated your guts but are libertarians, so let’s toss them a bone.”

      • Overt

        We should be focused on building the grass roots. What good would a Libertarian president be with a Dem/GOP Senate and House? As an outsider, Trump has had to fend off countless attempts to remove him, and he has at least had tepid support from half the GOP. There would be ZERO chance of a Libertarian getting anything done.

        There is nothing happening at the local level, and if you aren’t going to be an activist helping to organize at this level, then a measly vote isn’t going to do anything. And that isn’t me grousing- I have no time to pound pavement either.

        If anything, the place a libertarian should be trying is to either Primary a republican in a safe district, or to compete against a Republican in a safe district. Much like Socialist AOC got Communism back on the table for the Dems, a Libertarian surprising a Republican who took their district for granted could possibly make some news.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        I’m in a swing state for the 2nd time during an election year in my life. I have never voted for a D or an R.

        I am going to vote for Trump because imo the Dems are just too far gone. Another 4 years of Trump Fed judges vs the alternative might be enough to keep me semi free until I’m too old to care. Not to mention the Green New Deal and more wars and other atrocities.

  4. egould310

    Just ran seven miles along the ship canal in a torrential downpour/thunderstorm. Felt so damn good. I could have run seventy miles this morning.

    Now I’m gonna pour some rue into this coffee, a little maple syrup, and some heavy cream. It’s gonna be a nice cozy day. Cheers to you glib people!

    • Akira

      Epic, dude! I used to be able to do 8 miles back when I weighed 173, but then I decided to focus more on building muscle and got up to 250, so 5 miles is my upper limit nowadays.

      Running in the rain is awesome. I’ve been doing my running after work (around 3 AM) so that I have the morning/afternoon to get shit done or go enjoy myself somewhere. It’s nice having the whole town to myself.

      • egould310

        Running in the rain is awesome. Usually here in Seattle no runners wave to each other (as opposed to SoCal where all the runners gave a “hi”). This morning, though all the runners were big grins and waves.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        250 and you can run 5 miles? Would you mind trying out for the Giants? Our LB unit has been a travesty for abut 10 years.

      • Chafed

        Akira is the new Lawrence Taylor.

    • Nephilium

      Just got back from running errands. Had brunch at a local place, picked up three crowlers of beer (they had a special), the quarterly mead pick up from Crafted (one of them was called “Down with CCP”), and swung by a couple of gardening stores looking for live peppermint (lots of spearmint, no peppermint). Waiting for some storm clouds to blow over, then planning a ~15 mile (round trip) ride to a local place to grab a bite and a pint.

      • egould310

        I wish I could go to a place and sit down and eat brunch. Maybe next weekend. 🙁

        Have a good ride, dude.

      • Nephilium

        The changes in sit down are mildly entertaining to me. The climate change crowd has been kicked to the curb by the Branch Covidians. No more bottles of condiments, people complaining about re-usable silverware/glasses/plates, no cloth napkins, and re-usable bags are right out. It’s all single use and disposable stuff now. Shows how critical the climate change issues are, doesn’t it?

      • Ayn Random Variation

        “Branch Covidians”!

        Stolen

      • Nephilium

        It’s not mine to steal. IIRC, it was Trshy who came up with it.

    • Count Potato

      “He adds that white nationalist groups are posting messages promoting going to Minneapolis to “get our loot on” and cause mayhem. He says they will investigate those using the outrage over the murder of George Floyd as a “cover” for illegal activity”

      https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1266742843722403840

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        When they look into the arrestees’ backgrounds I don’t think they’re going to find many white nationalists.

      • leon

        Well i saw a whole tweeter thread about how antifa are actualy conservatives trying to make liberals look bad. We re depends on who is classified as a white nationalist

      • Ted S.

        “He adds [without evidence] that white nationalist groups are posting messages promoting going to Minneapolis to “get our loot on” and cause mayhem. He says they will investigate those using the outrage over the murder of George Floyd as a “cover” for illegal activity”

        Fixed it for you.

      • AlmightyJB

        White supremist cops are arresting white supremist instead of black people and then the far left is bailing out the arrested white supremist. Trump is orchastrating the whole thing.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        RUSSIAN white supremacists! Putin has been doing this shit since the 60s.

      • RAHeinlein

        If all the agitators/criminals are outsiders, should be no concerns about making arrests.

      • Overt

        Antifa is the perfect organization, if you think about it. A bunch of privileged white kids who read to much Marx. They have exactly zero qualms about starting a revolution and burning cities to the ground. And if they are caught doing it, they are the right color to blame this all on White Supremacists.

    • Grosspatzer

      Indeed. Also, +1 “Libertarian Redhead”.

    • JD is in the United Karendom

      I feel like picking one hole in it, which is the “civic disruptions” being legitimate thing. Protest is one thing, but disrupting and obstructing the business and movements of private individuals and entities is entirely different. I see “civic disruption” as those things that are indiscriminate to some significant degree in who they inconvenience and therefore tortious on a large scale. Think of it like “Extinction Rebellion” shutting down traffic around airports, or major thoroughfares in cities. That’s not the kind of disruption and civil disobedience that I can support. It’s often rationalized or justified by a “but if you aren’t with us you’re against us”, or “well if you aren’t part of the solution, you’re part of the problem”. I don’t know if any of that is applicable to protests in this particular instance, but I’m speaking generally in response to the diagram, which otherwise is fairly accurate to my principles.

      Okay cool that’s enough autistic typing for today. I’m going to carry on building the fucking table I wasted three hours on before deciding I was going in the wrong direction.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        A fucking table? pic?

      • JD is in the United Karendom

        Just imagine any sort of table you like, groaning and creaking under the weight of two or more people engaged in passionate, sweaty, gropey, awkward, grunty sex.

      • pan fried wylie

        I’m going with a picnic table. Mmmm, yeah.

    • blackjack

      Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right…

      • Ted S.

        I wouldn’t call being with me “stuck”.

  5. Gustave Lytton

    Just discovered today that thanks to the STOP Act, international packages to the US will not be accepted if they have a handwritten label because of an electronic data requirement. Another victim of the opioid “crisis”. Fuck you Trump and Congress.

  6. Grosspatzer

    Upgrading my wardrobe, I need this (mildly NSFW).

    Radical chic

    Might need a gofundme as well. Sheesh.

  7. leon

    It’s not really trolling to get angry old bitties panties in a twist

    • Ted S.

      You just want old biddies’ panties, don’t you?

      • JD is in the United Karendom

        Come on, Ted. There’s got to be a song for that?

      • JD is in the United Karendom

        Thanks, Teddio.

      • blackjack

        Anything by Tom Jones?

      • Ted S.

        It’s not old biddies’ panties, but this is by Tom Jones, and truly disturbing.

  8. JD is in the United Karendom

    Please define “skunky”. If it means it smells like the blunt end of a skunk then, no thanks, and if you mean it smells like some hella dank marijuana weed drugs then, again, I strongly decline.

      • JD is in the United Karendom

        TIL why I don’t like any beers in green bottles.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Come on over to the US and drink a Heineken and you’ll know what skunky refers to tastewise.

      • JD is in the United Karendom

        Heineken?! Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Heineken!

        Pabst Blue Ribbon!

        *crazy eyes*

      • Ownbestenemy

        PBR is my goto backup beer that is usually stocked for parties that go long and BYOB has been depleated.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Yeah, it’s really not that bad. Better than Budweiser and Miller IMHO.

      • Timeloose

        They are selling PBR coffee here. It’s like a Yoo-hoo.

      • Nephilium

        I’ve seen it. If I want alcohol in my coffee, I’ll make myself an Irish coffee. It’s an attempt to figure out the next big 5-6% alcoholic beverage trend. Anyone remember everyone and their brother coming out with hard sodas? And watching everyone scramble to make a hard seltzer now?

      • Timeloose

        I’m right there with you. My wife on the other hand is a big fan.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Go to Tesco. Grab a Brewdog IPA. Leave it behind the boiler for about…a week.

  9. Spudalicious

    Sure would be nice if we could get a review of a good beer.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      It would be nicer if Spud learned how to troll.

  10. Ownbestenemy

    Really hope they can launch today. I need to reminded that humans can do awesome things

    • Spudalicious

      ^^This^^

      • Ownbestenemy

        Its plain and its probably some quote in a movie or book but humans are such a remarkable species that it is equal in its great ability to destroy in spectacular fashion as it is to create wonderous achievements.

        And weather is being a lil bitch again for it

      • Rhywun

        And weather is being a lil bitch again for it

        What idiot thought that launching rockets from Florida was a good idea?!

      • Ted S.

        Jules Verne. He recognized in, I think, From the Earth to the Moon that you needed to be closer to the equator to launch (he made the plot point south of 30 degrees North, IIRC). This mean that only Florida and Texas need apply. Since at the time there were too many cities in Texas that would be competing against each other for the launch site, he had the characters in the book select Tampa Town, which was supposedly the only town of size in Florida at the time he wrote.

      • Winston

        Also rockets need to be launched to the east and to the east of Florida is the ocean so that means any launch failures and discarded rocket stages end up in the Atlantic and away from populated areas.

  11. AlmightyJB

    Just received alert on phone. Columbus police declaring emergency downtown and to stay away.

    • Rhywun

      I’m surprised all the LARPers are able to roll out of bed this early.

    • Gender Traitor

      Ugh. So far so good in Dayton, as far as I can tell from the big local news station’s site. Also a protest in Yellow Springs, of course, because they never met a prog virtue they didn’t feel compelled to signal.

    • Ayn Random Variation

      I went to check out the Philly protest. It started at noon and was already broken up by the time I walked by about 1:30. I wish I knew how to put a pic from my phone on here. I took a pic of a deserted city hall and accidently caught 2 girls crossing the street with Black Lives matters posters hanging upside down at their sides.

      • Sean

        Were they hot?

  12. Ownbestenemy

    Roberts tanked the religious service restrictions. He has been the greatest gift to totalitarianism.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      What a fucking sellout asshole and this is coming from a guy who hasn’t been inside a church for twenty years. Roberts is a damn disgrace.

      • Ownbestenemy

        The black community has all but lost faith in the institution of government and moves like this will begin to pull support of the institutions from the faithful.

        It is not looking good at all for this nation.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        When the SC’s interpretation of the constitution goes against the plain language of the constitution you can’t really blame people for losing faith. This decision is a sad joke.

      • Gustave Lytton

        The last 200+ years of jurisprudence has been about ignoring what the ink actually says in favor of predetermined outcomes. Worse so in the last 120 years.

    • leon

      Roberts the “conservative”. Fuck that guy

      • Chafed

        Yup. That claim has turned out to be unmitigated bullshit.

    • Chipwooder

      Roberts is an embarrassment. Heckuva job on that nomination, W!

    • Ayn Random Variation

      I was about to say I can’t believe this, but thought better of it. What could possibly be the rationale?

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Probably that public safety clause that nullifies the constitution and all of those penumbras and shit. Essentially it’s OK to nullify the 1st if there’s a disease going around (and there’s always a disease going around).

    • Gustave Lytton

      Let’s avoid a low probability event by returning to subsistence farming!

      • pan fried wylie

        Anyone who isn’t sheltering in place for the eventual SMOD impact is a moran.

  13. PieInTheSky

    goddamnit we never get any good riots in Bucharest.

    • PieInTheSky

      Also that Michael Malice character tweets a lot… seems to have a lot of time on his hands

    • Gustave Lytton

      On the other hand, Romanians shot their commie dictator. Not happening around here.

      • PieInTheSky

        meh I see that as more of a coup d’état than anything else

    • Ted S.

      Just go to Timişoara instead

  14. westernsloper

    This is one of those part fruity, part skunky IPA that everyone either loves or hates.

    You should see if you can sell them on that description for the label MS. I won’t be looking for that one.

    • PieInTheSky

      What I understand is the Kristian Niemitz would love it and Brendan O’neill would hate it

    • slumbrew

      I made the mistake of trying to watch it on CNN – was it just them were the actual ignition & launch were somehow skipped or was that across the board?

  15. Hyperion

    Anyone else watching the launch? Looks like 1 hour and counting now. Wifey and I are watching, and some drankin.

    • Gustave Lytton

      I think so. It’s starting to thunder outside. Maybe not the best time to be swinging a metal weed eater around?

      • Hyperion

        It’s freaking gorgeous outside here. 81F 47% Humidity, total sun, barely a breeze. We have the grill ready to go, but for now we’re not going to miss the launch.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      The seats rotating was very cool,
      Hope for the Weather, I have waited all my life to watch this,

    • Ownbestenemy

      Green across the board….whoop!

      • Hyperion

        Yep, it’s a go! Whoohoo!

    • Rhywun

      I’ll flip over around 3:20.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Paging Rhywun! It’s happening!

      • Rhywun

        On it.

      • Q Continuum

        Just declare them a domestic terrorist group already.

      • Sean

        Sounds pretty clear. Lets hope he means it.

      • Gender Traitor

        anarchtic left extremist groups

        Penguins?

    • Winston

      White supremacists rioting over a white cop killing a black man…Huh.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        None of this adds up anymore.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Raza Aslan is a cannibal with kuru. Just ignore the imaginings of his fevered mind and you’ll find yourself in a better place.

      • blackjack

        It’s good thing no president’s ever done that, that would be quite the scandal!

      • J. Frank Parnell

        John
        @JGG1966
        ·
        May 29
        Replying to
        @DanRather
        When will Republicans wake up and remove this man from office?

        Is he referring to Jacob Frey? Or Tim Walz?

      • blackjack

        You know who else recently got arrested for doing their job?

      • Gustave Lytton

        Naval aviators?

        (I always hear that in Louis Gossett Jr’s voice)

      • blackjack

        I was thinking anyone the governor or mayor decided.

    • PieInTheSky

      Q philosophical question for you:

      there were two magic buttons and you had to press one.

      button one all breasts in the world would go to a b cup

      button two all actual communists in the world drop dead.

      Now. You love boobs and hate commies. But mass killing commies is sort of immoral, I think. Which button do you press?

    • PieInTheSky

      also 11 18 48 61

    • Ayn Random Variation

      I’ve seen #3 before, just amazing.
      Very light on the ink – excellent job!

  16. Yusef drives a Kia

    Sounds like a GO for launch

    • Not an Economist

      Anybody else afraid to leave their seat in case they miss anything about the launch?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yes…yes….yes….i haven’t been so excited for Space in a long time.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Ditto. The simultaneous booster landings were awesome, but this is going to unlock next level stuff.

      • Timeloose

        The president of SpaceX is a looker.

    • Not an Economist

      Best coverage.

      • Timeloose

        I’m watching as well. I’m very excited.

      • Timeloose

        Mission control has too few short sleeve white button downs. Why is no one smoking?

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I have watched a ton of his videos. Just a guy who loves space and rockets talking about his passion.

      • Timeloose

        I’m on the NASA official site.

      • Gustave Lytton

        They have a bit more eye candy now than Apollo missions did.

      • Timeloose

        The prez is a looker

      • Gustave Lytton

        You can say that again!

      • hayeksplosives

        Amazing how cheap great cameras are now. The SpaceX hardware is bristling with cameras.

      • Ownbestenemy

        The capsule camera either had anti-shake or that is one hell of a smooth ride

    • blackjack

      My orders are to sit here and watch the world go by.

    • Not an Economist

      GO! GO! GO!

  17. Not an Economist

    Should we be worried?

    • LJW

      Next week’s headline. “Monkeys Develop Cure For CV-19”.

  18. PieInTheSky

    After the launch Elon Musk should, as an influential african american, work to solve racism once and for all.

    • Heroic Mulatto

      What is Canada to you, chopped muktuk?

    • blackjack

      So, he’s voting for Biden?

  19. Stinky Wizzleteats

    An interesting stream from Michael Malice:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e18nN6D9-E0

    He’s pro riots as a means of change it seems although I suspect his viewpoint would change if it was his business being burned down. Still, it’s an interesting take.

    • Winston

      Well his name is malice…

    • PieInTheSky

      revolution rarely if ever leads to good change. the people who come on top at the end are not the people you want in power.

      • Winston

        The kind of person who is willing to use violence to gain power is usually willing to use violence to stay in power…

      • Heroic Mulatto

        As America learned during the Whisky Rebellion.

      • Winston

        It is spelled Whiskey, you Limey

      • Mojeaux

        I spelled it one way for my pirate novel (1780) and the other way for my Prohibition novel (1929).

      • Tundra

        The Scots, Canucks and Japs spell it properly. Your prohibition booze was most likely Canadian, hence ‘whisky’.

      • Mojeaux

        It was McCormick and Remus.

      • Tundra

        Oh yeah, I forgot.

        Still misspelled! 😉

    • Rhywun

      When it’s dominated by looters and antifa clowns, nothing is going to “change”.

      • Winston

        Well it lead to change just not the sort of change you want…

      • Winston

        *it will lead to change*

      • blackjack

        It wasn’t strictly because of our riots, but that era really knocked some sense into our cops. They got more organized in their corruption instead of just engaging in random wanton violence.

    • hayeksplosives

      I can’t be pro mob violence. Rewarding it will lead to more.

      Also, demanding “action now” is no help because it would be reactionary and emotional. The laws and justice system need to be allowed to work.

      Policing reform takes longer to implement and see benefits, so it doesn’t appeal to the rioters. Yet this is a real issue in need of a real solution.

  20. Winston

    is burning down stores an example of socially liberal urban cosmopolitanism?

    • Count Potato

      No.

  21. Yusef drives a Kia

    HERE WE GO!

    • hayeksplosives

      Woo-hoo! Another step toward not having to beg Russia or China for a ride to space!

      • Ownbestenemy

        So fucking awesome!

      • hayeksplosives

        This one doesn’t have any of my company’s toys onboard, but we have hitched a SpaceX ride in the past and will do so in the future.

        Go SpaceX! Keep on proving that private industry can create and build.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Privateers FTW!

  22. Winston

    Didn’t realize that this was the first American manned orbital spaceflight since the Shuttle. So that’s why…

    • blackjack

      … There’s not going to be anyone there to raise their kids, if they did?

      • Tres Cool

        Well, I hear its cold as hell.

  23. J. Frank Parnell

    I keep laughing every time they mention that the astronauts are named Bob & Doug.

    • Not an Economist

      Is their last name McKenzie?

      • Winston

        William Lyon?

    • blackjack

      Extra funny when you consider their tag line was ” Take off, eh!”

    • RAHeinlein

      I purposely hadn’t mentioned the astronaut’s names to my husband – he caught it today – anticipating a lot of “eh’s” and “hoser’s” during dinner.

      • Timeloose

        They definitely made sure the capsule looked as futuristic as possible inside.

        The outside and the rocket itself still looks like a Estes rocket kit.

    • Crusty Juggler

      I’m cracking a Molson Ice to celebrate!

    • Below Sea Level Hell Centro

      Take off you hoser.

  24. Crusty Juggler

    Tombstone – great movie or the greatest movie?

    The government is trying to distract us by faking another space flight!

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Elon did it, not Nasa, and cheaper than anyone else.

      • Rhywun

        What exactly is NASA’s involvement in this? I mean, their name was all over the launch.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Nasa astronauts, the rest is Space X

      • hayeksplosives

        NASA also paid SpaceX a good chunk of change for this, so they get their name on it.

      • Rhywun

        What about the facilities, and the staff?

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        My understanding is that it’s SpaceX ground staff until docking, SpaceX equipment on the launch pad, but its obviously a nasa launch pad.

      • Hyperion

        “SpaceX equipment on the launch pad, but its obviously a nasa launch pad.”

        Umm, yeah. It’s the Cape Canaveral launch pad of NASA, I guess the original site of the Apollo missions.

        But it’s SpaceX equipment and ballz.

        NASA couldn’t get back into space in a million fucking years, let alone out of low Earth orbit. They’re a pussified bureaucracy and incompetent clusterfuck.

        Next for SpaceX, back to the moon, and they’ll get it done shortly.

      • Rhywun

        I was more “moved” by the launch than I expected. What’s wrong with me?!

      • Hyperion

        “What’s wrong with me?!”

        Umm, you like technology and real human progress?

    • hayeksplosives

      Good movie.

      The covid/riot/election crapwave has completely washed away all awareness that the American people ever had for the plight of Hong Kong.*

      Hong Kong is one of the tragic Covid deaths.

      *granted, of those that had a vague idea something was up in HK, only about half knew which side was the good guys.

      • Winston

        Well the writing was on the wall back in 1984…

    • Not an Economist

      The CGI is much better than before.

    • Winston

      They won’t let us see the Antarctic Ice Wall!

    • Ted S.

      Better than My Darling Clementine?

  25. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Awesome launch

    NERDGASM!!!

  26. Crusty Juggler

    Elon Musks’s globalist cabal is trying to monetize space!

    Space is for the people!

  27. Winston

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_4#Insignia

    Since McDivitt and White were prohibited from naming their spacecraft, they decided to put the American flag on their suits, the first astronauts to do so, although Soviet crews wore the Cyrillic “СССР” on their spacesuit helmets. Previous astronauts had only had the NASA insignia and a strip with their name on their suits.

    I wasn’t aware that the Mercury Astronauts did not have the Flag on their space suits. Or that the Flag was added to space suits because NASA wouldn’t let Gemini 4 name their spacecraft…

  28. Count Potato

    “Crossing State lines to incite violence is a FEDERAL CRIME! Liberal Governors and Mayors must get MUCH tougher or the Federal Government will step in and do what has to be done, and that includes using the unlimited power of our Military and many arrests. Thank you!”

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266796670609588225

    NUKE ANTIFA

    • Heroic Mulatto

      Posse Comitatus Act says “what”?

      • Winston

        Isn’t Posse Comitatus a Neo-Confederate law anyway?

      • Heroic Mulatto

        It was really Republican tricknology after Hayes “stole” the election, even though the NY Democratic won the popular vote.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I suspect he’s talking about federalizing the various national guards but his statement includes the usual Trumpian muddled language.

      • Homple

        Dwight Eisenhower tells Orval Faubus, “I’ve got your posse comitatus swingin’ right here”.

    • Count Potato

      “80% of the RIOTERS in Minneapolis last night were from OUT OF STATE. They are harming businesses (especially African American small businesses), homes, and the community of good, hardworking Minneapolis residents who want peace, equality, and to provide for their families.”

      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1266796670609588225

      Well, there were only two black people in Minnesota.

      • Tundra

        Both dead now.

        RIP Prince and Kirby

      • prolefeed

        Those two black people being my inlaws?

      • Tundra

        Chris Rock bit. Kirby Puckett and Prince are the only two black guys in Minne.

      • hayeksplosives

        For black girls, we have the Minnesota Lynx.

    • Not an Economist

      In shocking news — a politician may have lied!!!!

      I’m sure most people here will need emotional support after this shocking news.

  29. Rhywun

    Saw one of the Fox chicks reporting near the launch and of course Antifa was shitting all over it behind her.

    • hayeksplosives

      O good grief. Protesting at a US rocket launch?

      There are people born and raised here in the US who have had to work very hard at NOT feeling American. They get told they are victims and that the deck is stacked against them.

      So they don’t go “Awesome!” When they see the launch; they say “Where’s OUR rocket?!?”

      • Rhywun

        Nah they were shouting “I still can’t breathe!” over and over.

      • Sean

        That was in front of the Whitehouse I think.

      • Rhywun

        Oh. That makes more sense.

      • Derpetologist

        There were civil rights protesters at NASA during the Apollo 11 landing.

        ***
        On the eve of the Apollo 11 launch, hundreds of demonstrators arrived at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center to make just that point. Members of the Poor People’s Campaign, the same group that had marched on Washington in 1968 led by Martin Luther King, Jr., arrived with a pair of mule-drawn carts. Their leader, Ralph Abernathy, asked to meet with NASA administrator Thomas Paine, who agreed to talk to him on July 15, the day before launch.

        “[Abernathy said he believed that] a great nation ought to be able to take care of those who are less fortunate as well as undertake space exploration,” Roger Launius, former historian at NASA, told Space.com. “He says, ‘I think it’s misplaced priorities.’ He had a really good point there.”

        Abernathy explained that while he was proud of the Apollo accomplishments, he wanted to draw attention to the 20% of Americans who couldn’t afford to meet basic needs like food, clothing or housing. He asked Paine to let some of the protestors watch the launch, and asked that NASA provide support and technical aid to combat poverty.

        Paine agreed to all three requests, according to a memo he dictated after the meeting, which Launius found when reading through the administrator’s papers. “I stated that if we could solve the problems of poverty in the United States by not pushing the button to launch men to the moon tomorrow, then we would not push that button,” Paine wrote.
        ***

        https://www.space.com/apollo-11-launch-protest-poverty.html

      • Hyperion

        I’m all for antifa members all being boarded onto the next heavy lift rocket and being shot into the Sun.

      • Derpetologist

        Firing them out of a cannon into a brick wall would be cheaper.

        But the humane thing to do is let them have Portland, NYC, etc so the rest of the country can live in peace.

  30. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Brand new Dave Smith discussion with John McAfee on Part of the Problem:

    https://youtu.be/tK0Kkx1_qRw

    • Tundra

      Dave is really blowing up. PotP is rapidly becoming my favorite podcast.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Dave is a comedian, who otherwise has no ability to work at the moment. PotP is about the only way he gets paid.

  31. Derpetologist

    Just for fun, I wanted to see if I could calculate orbital velocity from the formula for circular motion with constant acceleration.

    a = v^2/r

    a = 9.81 m/s^2 (acceleration from gravity)

    r = 6378000 m (radius of earth) + 409000 m (altitude of space station) = 6787000 m

    v = sqrt(a*r) = sqrt(9.81 m/s^2 * 6787000 m) = 8159 m/s

    8159 m/s * 3600 s/h * 1 km / 1000 m = 29,375 km/h

    correct within an order of magnitude – actual velocity is 27,000 km/h

    Acceleration from gravity changes with elevation, so that probably accounts for the difference. The period of the pendulum on a clock changes enough with elevation that the pendulum needs to be adjusted for correct time keeping.

    • Derpetologist

      Let’s see if I can fix that error – acceleration will be proportional to 1/r^2, so the ratio of a at sea level to a in orbit will be 6400^2/6787^2 = 0.88

      0.89*9.81 = 8.72

      v = sqrt(8.72*678700) = 7694 m/s = 27690 km/h

      Still a little off, but very close.

      I do very little math these days, so I like to practice once in a while.

      • Derpetologist

        Well looky here: from the ISS stats page- orbital velocity: 7.66 km/s (27,600 km/h; 17,100 mph)

        I guess Bob and Doug will need to accelerate a bit more to dock. I stopped watching the feed when their speed held at 27000 km/h

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        2nd boost burn in 20 minutes, then one more later,

      • dbleagle

        When they raise their speed it will raise their orbit. It is a three part tango at high speeds t dock two spacecraft. Back in the day that was Buzz’s specialty and one of the reasons he was placed on the Apollo 11 crew.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Autodock, they just need to get oriented, the ship does the rest,

    • hayeksplosives

      Nice. Will share.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I can’t tell what they’re trying to get at there.

      • Chipwooder

        Yeah, that’s getting a big “Um, so?” from me.

    • Heroic Mulatto

      Imagine being this asshole.

      Claudia Clark – American Ingenuity!
      @ClaudiajClark · 2h
      Replying to @PunishDem1776
      Hmong means this is #CIA connected and goes all the way back to the ‘Vietnam Era’ when they took over the SE Asia Heroin Trade under cover of War…Hmong were their WOLVES

      The team that took out George looked like the typical 3 man kill team the CIA typically employees.

      • Tundra

        Imagine not even being surprised at this nonsense.

        I’ll make sure and share that with my Laotian neighbor. He’ll love it!

      • Winston

        I thought opposing ‘Nam and the CIA was not supposed to turn people into racists…

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        The author of that tweet is obviously a nutbar.

      • Winston

        Well the anti-war and anti-CIA movement never have any of those…

      • Heroic Mulatto

        I thought opposing ‘Nam and the CIA was not supposed to turn people into racists…

        60’s black supremacist movements, like the Nation of Islam, opposed both.

      • Urthona

        That theory is awesome and so I choose to believe it.

    • Count Potato

      It could be bullshit, but from what I can tell George Floyd, or someone going by the name Floyd who looked like him, did do porn.

      No idea about the cop.

  32. hayeksplosives

    A young kitty cat has started making an appearance in our backyard in the evenings.

    I do not want another cat. Spouse claims he doesn’t want another cat. Spouse is caught calling and cooing to stray cat.

    Hmm.

    • blackjack

      Seen it a hundred times.

    • Urthona

      Did you feed it? If so, it’s yours now.

    • Gender Traitor

      Yup. Tom T. decided we didn’t need a second cat when Current Cat turned out to be much more mischievous than Dearly Departed Cat. He has, however, been putting food out on the front porch for a couple of semi-strays who wander around our end of the neighborhood. Unfortunately, last night he caught a raccoon eating that pricey Science Diet kitty kibble.

    • Toxteth O’Grady

      Does it have testicles? Can you catch / trap it to take it to a vet to check for a chip?

      (PS. Thanks for your own small subsidy of today’s launch.)

      • hayeksplosives

        I didn’t get a good look at what the cat was packing. If it’s an unneutered male, I will try trapping and getting it fixed.

    • blackjack

      I’m convinced that these “strays” are just somebody’s cat who likes to check out the neighborhood buffet

      • hayeksplosives

        Yeah, he didn’t look like he was destitute.

      • mikey

        Our neighbors said they were feeding a stray. Turns out it was our cat. She was a pickey eater and we didn’t see how see got by on what little kibble she ate. Figured she was feeding on chipmonks. She was getting smoked salmon from the neighbors.

  33. Nephilium

    Stopping at a little crappy bar for dinner and some pints. Not a mask in sight, people even going back to smoking at the bar. When people realize one order (that effects them) is idiotic, they may start wondering about the others.

      • Nephilium

        Nah. Brew Garden. They were watching bowling and horse racing on the TV. I just sat at the patio bar and chatted with the staff and the guy sitting next to me.

  34. egould310

    There’s a white cat with green eyes named Joker that is missing in my neighborhood. The flyers are up on telephone poles. Just trying to get the word out.

    Apparently , check in your shed or garage because Joker likes to hide in those places.

    Email my handle @ g mail if you see him and I’ll connect you with the owner.

    • Brochettaward

      Is there a monetary award?

      • egould310

        No. Just the satisfaction of being a friendly neighbor.

        Personally, I think Joker split the scene. Maybe hopped a train North to Vancouver.

      • blackjack

        It ain’t easy being a gangster of love…

      • egould310

        I thought “Green Eyed Joker” would be a good album title for The Byrds circa 1971.

      • egould310

        And damn I want that 12 string Rickenbacker that Roger is playing. Hey! I’ve been saving money, and I got my Trumpbux this week. Think I’m gonna go buy a 67 Rick 12 string. Fuck . Yeah

      • blackjack

        Guitars, like motorcycles and guns, are better than money.

    • kinnath

      Well, I thought I was linking to the beginning of that.

  35. creech

    They are burning cars in Philly now to protest the murdering cops in Minneapolis. Some Philly cops have their own problems with excessive force too.
    Maybe the “protesters” should be marching on Democrat headquarters – that’s who can actually change the police rules of engagement in American big cities.

    • The Other Kevin

      I’m hearing there are protests/riots planned in a lot of cities today. Not sure how you plan a riot.

      • blackjack

        That’s easy. Plan a protest and then have Soros drop off a pallet of bricks early that day.

      • Derpetologist

        interesting – riot started out as an old French word for quarrel, then it became a word for debate, then a word for wanton living. From there, it took on its modern meaning.

    • Sean

      Well, the car fires are right in front of city hall.

  36. commodious spittoon
  37. Hyperion

    So, let’s see, last I saw the Dragon is crawling along at 27,000 KM per hour? So first off all, drop this commie measurement system. No one benefits from that. So how long does it take them to catch up with the ISP? Last I saw was 18 hours? I guess it’s traveling in the same direction, but not quite as fast?

    • Derpetologist

      There are 2 kinds of countries in the world – ones that use the metric system and one that put a man on the moon.

      • Hyperion

        LOL, damn right, bro! And about to do it again!

      • Derpetologist

        I had professors in college who insisted that a question posed in moon landing units be worked and answered in those units. People who converted everything to metric and then the answer back to foot-pound-gallon-fahrenheit lost points.

        [pours out a 40 for burned up Mars Climate Orbiter]

        ***
        The primary cause of this discrepancy was that one piece of ground software supplied by Lockheed Martin produced results in a United States customary unit, contrary to its Software Interface Specification (SIS), while a second system, supplied by NASA, expected those results to be in SI units, in accordance with the SIS. Specifically, software that calculated the total impulse produced by thruster firings produced results in pound-force seconds. The trajectory calculation software then used these results – expected to be in newton seconds (incorrect by a factor of 4.45)
        ***

      • Derpetologist

        speech given by last astronaut to walk on moon

        ***
        As Cernan prepared to climb the ladder for the final time, he spoke these words, currently the last spoken by a human being standing on the lunar surface:

        Bob, this is Gene, and I’m on the surface; and, as I take man’s last step from the surface, back home for some time to come – but we believe not too long into the future – I’d like to just (say) what I believe history will record: that America’s challenge of today has forged man’s destiny of tomorrow. And, as we leave the Moon at Taurus–Littrow, we leave as we came and, God willing, as we shall return, with peace and hope for all mankind. Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17.
        ***

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      SpaceX is live for the entire mission til docking, going to do a burn…. now!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        they are docking about 6 am My time, I’ll be there, Live
        10 minute circularizing burn right now,

  38. JD is in the United Karendom

    Well that was a speech.

  39. egould310

    We’ll get drunk, we’ll get stoned, we’ll get high, we’ll get drunk
    We’ll get drunk, we’ll get stoned, we’ll get high, we’ll get drunk

    https://youtu.be/qV3wTPOsoK0

  40. Derpetologist

    I went kayaking today and saw many turtles. I like turtles. They made me think of Tarteel:

    ***
    Tarteel (Arabic: ترتيل‎) is the Arabic word for hymnody. The term is commonly translated in reference to the Qur’an as recitation, “in proper order” and “with no haste.”

    This word is used in chapter 73 named سورة المزمل, verse 4 of the Qur’an:

    “and recite the Qur’an in slow measured rhythmic tones.”
    ***

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarteel

    It can be very relaxing to listen to.

    • Count Potato

      sksksksk

  41. creech

    All this riot coverage on tv. The networks are making an in-kind advertising contribution to the “Vote Trump 2020” effort.