Swiss Morning Links of Wisdom

by | May 19, 2020 | Daily Links | 486 comments

No chop Bebe!

Grüezi mitenand!

I got called out of the bullpen for this morning…Maybe that will let me skip the next Cryptid Advice Panel hosting duty. *glares at Mexican Sharpshooter*

Thanks to my fellow Glibs TPTB, I will be sharing WISDOM with you. Yes, the interwebz is full of wisdom – you just need to go out and get it.

  • Politician dispenses wisdom to the masses. OK, not really the masses. More like the jet set. But it is still Wise. (h/t jesse.in.mb)
  • This link is a combo of the wisdom of SugarFree and OMWC. OMWC brought the link to my attention, and SugarFree had me thinking….”Hate Birds Strike Again”. While ol’ Slow Joe says they were “cheering” all I could hear is “FINGERBANG!” – thanks SF…
  • Boy, my face is a bit red. It appears the Swiss Army took you commenters’ wise advice about “boating accidents” a bit too far.
  • I am not sure how wise this is, but they are inviting people with a sound currency.

Special Music Link: HM shared this rare video of STEVE SMITH with me. A wise choice, HM.

About The Author

Swiss Servator

Swiss Servator

Currently serving at the pleasure of a Swiss multinational. Previously a Soldier, rugby player, lawyer, bouncer, bartender, substitute teacher, risk manager, and cubicle mushroom. Will work for raclette.

486 Comments

  1. Old Man With Candy

    “Sound currency” is the payment I receive for my audio reviews.

    • Swiss Servator

      Really, right off the bat?

      *narrows gaze*

      • Old Man With Candy

        Really, right off the bat?

        That’s how China got the ‘rona.

      • Swiss Servator

        STOP!

        *strongly narrows gaze*

      • DOOMco

        You’re on it this early?

    • Animal

      I see what you did there. (Or should I say I hear what you did there?)

      • Gender Traitor

        Good morning, Animal! Just wanted to let you know that I pointed Mr. GT (Tom Teriffic) toward your gun article from yesterday, and he left a complimentary comment (long after the thread went quiet.) Likewise your article from February on the Winchester 1894, a personal fave of his.

      • Animal

        Cool! I always enjoy complimentary comments.

    • Pat

      That’s a sound investment. You can only improve if you receive sound advice.

      • Nephilium

        Otherwise you’ll just wave goodbye to your money?

      • WTF

        Only if you fail to notices the sines.

      • Pat

        Dammit

      • Pat

        You gotta watch out for the warning sines.

    • Festus

      Here’s the Canadian “Snowbird” Team on their give Canada a great big hug tour last weekend – https://youtu.be/6nEtMc2F6e8

  2. Trigger Hippie

    Little did we know, all of those noises were actually coming from Joe’s lower torso.

    • Swiss Servator

      Augh! Don’t give SugarFree any ideas!!!!

      • WTF

        Oh, I’m pretty sure we need a Gropey Joe episode in the Hat & Hair universe.

      • Trigger Hippie

        We’ve gotta feed the monkey, I…I mean–uh, hasn’t that ever occurred to you man? Sir?

      • Swiss Servator

        I have enough trouble getting to sleep. I don’t think I need something like that haunting my dreams.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Tangentially related(is it?): The few times a year I’m lucky enough to be with a woman I “last” longer by thinking of Chuck Schumer nursing newborn puppies.

        Do not attempt that if you have whiskey dick. You won’t be able to rise to the occasion afterwards.

      • mindyourbusiness

        Sub in Nancy Pelosi. You’d need a wrecker to get a rise.

  3. robc

    Follow-up to weekend story

    For those who didn’t see the original, the homeowner in this story is a friend of mine.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        How do we know Jesus didn’t tell this guy to kill your friend?

        (seriously, excellent reflexes. Jumping onto the hood of an oncoming car? I wouldn’t have had a chance.)

      • The Hyperbole

        Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

      • Festus

        This. This is why we can never have nice things.

      • robc

        With his glock in his hand, which isn’t mentioned in the article.

        But apparently the magazine got detached during the incident and ended up inside the house in the rubble.

      • robc

        He is a triathlete, so maybe that training comes in handy. Although I think crossfit would be better training for jumping on cars.

      • Bobarian LMD

        I thought Robc was saying he knew Jesus.

      • mrfamous

        He’s not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy

    • Swiss Servator

      Um…even the Edit Fairy can’t fix this one.

    • Pat

      This is a bit tasteless but… there but for the grace of God…

    • Mojeaux

      This is the guy you told us about the other day?

      • robc

        Yes. I knew a news story would show up eventually.

      • l0b0t

        I’m glad the news story mentioned the marijuana angle. Now I know the perp is not some crazy person but a fine upstanding fellow who merely succumbed to the Devil’s Lettuce. Thank G/d it was a man and not a woman, she would have been consorting with jazz musicians.

  4. Pat

    It appears the Swiss Army took you commenters’ wise advice about “boating accidents” a bit too far.

    It’s a good thing they only threw the ammunition into the water and not the guns as well. The fight might have started shooting up schools.

    • Pat

      *fish, not fight. Thank you autocorrect, very cool.

      • Trigger Hippie

        It was a good joke.

    • Ted S.

      What about the cheerleaders?

    • EvilSheldon

      The Swiss have made something of a culture of caching military supplies. It’s kind of endearing.

      So where is this lake again?

      • Ted S.

        It’s in Switzerland.

  5. Gender Traitor

    Is it a safe bet to guess that the Hate Birds – The Birds That Hate were more articulate and made more sense than Joe?

    • WTF

      You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier! C’mon man!

    • Shirley Knott

      Roadkill is smarter and more articulate than Joe.

  6. Juvenile Bluster

    If I see one more person say the ADA or HIPAA (or HIPPA) allows them to not wear a mask…

    …anyways.

    Wife’s back at work, after first having 6 weeks furloughed, then going back for a week and a day, then being back off for a week and 4 days after the county decided it wasn’t an essential business before the county finally “reopened” on Monday.

    And we got 6 inches of rain here yesterday, all from 4 PM-10 PM. Surprisingly I didn’t float away.

    • Festus

      Wifey is furloughed. She’s been walking the increasingly skinny dog and foraging. Fiddle-heads are tasty but I think it has more to do with the salt, butter and garlic in the saute. She’s gonna bring home mushrooms next and kill us all, isn’t she?

      • Florida Man

        She’s gonna bring home mushrooms next and kill us all, isn’t she?-

        I only know of 2 poisonous mushrooms in North America. Unfortunately the most deadly one looks like a normal white mushroom.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroying_angel

      • Festus

        She could at least bring home the fun ones but then I’d “Homer-out” and start talking to a Coyote that sounds like Johnny Cash.

      • Florida Man

        That talking coyote was really just a talking dog.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I don’t get at all why the West is freaking out.

        The cases are tiny outside the shit show that is Montreal, QC.

        Mind you, even with these numbers I still think it’s a gross mass panic anyway.

      • Festus

        Fucking Turdeau. I, hem, uh, hate him so fucking um, heh, much.

    • AlexinCT

      We just got told that because their stats show productivity was up with people working from home they plan to keep us all working from home till the end of the summer, yesterday. Fucking using us!

      • Mojeaux

        Clearly you don’t need meetings and people socializing.

      • robc

        I was on a zoom meeting with 20 people yesterday. Ugh, that was awful.

      • Mojeaux

        Yikes. I can’t handle Glib Happy Hour with more than 8-9.

      • Gender Traitor

        Good morning, Mo! As he did with Animal’s column from yesterday, Tom Teriffic left a comment at your morning links from yesterday long after it was a dead thread. I didn’t think it was possible, but he’s even harder to train than the typical Glib. ; )

      • Mojeaux

        I will go take a look and port the comment/reply over here.

        Mr. GT! Threads die about an hour after the next post posts, FYI.

        There, GT. Helped you train the boy.

      • Gender Traitor

        <—This is me not holding my breath.

      • Ted S.

        Imagine how those other 20 people feel being in a Zoom meeting with you. :-p

      • Overt

        Our office is talking about opening up with rotating capacity. Teams that don’t normally work together rotate. So everyone gets into the office maybe 30% of the time, but the office itself is never more than 30% full or so. I think it is absurd crisis theater, but then again, of all the bullshit I’ve had to put up with, getting an extra two hours a day of me-time instead of drive-to-office time has been very nice. I’ll take it.

      • AlexinCT

        Yeah they had just finished a multi million dollar project to retool the cube cages and make them even smaller and have less walls, packing us all together so we could be more collaborative, and now they are seeing that model will have to be redone cause this is a COVID-19 bureaucrat’s dream and ambulance chasers might line up to sue them if people happen to end up pushing up daisies. Heh!

      • Sensei

        Yes, my company also compacted the cube farm and is now trying to figure out what to do next.

      • Rhywun

        Those six-foot cube walls on three sides that every company got rid of 10 to 15 years ago don’t look so bad any more.

      • AlexinCT

        I jokingly told them to go back to the old stuff, put up a fourth wall, and make people jump over it to get to their desk in order to get us to truly social distance…

        Some people got that it was a joke, but the management types responded by saying they would take it as a takeaway to go research before promising anything….

        Go figure.

  7. Florida Man

    Boy, my face is a bit red. It appears the Swiss Army took you commenters’ wise advice about “boating accidents” a bit too far.-

    So dumping tons of lead in the water supply causes no harm, but hunters must use steel shot or they will completely destroy the wetlands? Sounds legit.

    • Nephilium

      If it’s government owned lead, it knows better than to hurt the people around it. Stupid deplorable lead just starts running around poisoning everyone.

      • Festus

        Turns into a gaseous state and makes colored kids retarded. Don’t even get me started on those tasty paint chips…

      • Nephilium

        You mean wall candy?

      • Festus

        Tasty, tasty wall-candy…

      • Trigger Hippie

        I have Lead Safe certification in two states. The next time I come cross a house with lead paint and have to remove or cover it I’ll send you a care package.

      • Festus

        Yum!

  8. Florida Man

    Politician dispenses wisdom to the masses. OK, not really the masses. More like the jet set. But it is still Wise. (h/t jesse.in.mb)-

    It’s my understanding that they always quote how long a virus can live on a hard surface because you can’t really get a virus off a soft surface, so all the hand wringing over tennis balls is a waste of time.

    • AlexinCT

      She just wanted to talk to people about their balls and make it sound legit…

      • Rhywun

        Also obligatory.

      • Pat

        I was expecting this

      • Chafed

        Now that’s how to start your day

      • Brett L

        Just keep the ball touching in the family, okay?

    • leon

      Orgeon SC already re-instated it.

      When you are the government and an uppity Judge gets in your way, you’ll get to be heard by the Supreme court that day. when you are a regular person, and the government stomps on your rights, you will have to wait 5 years.

      • R C Dean

        Without even any briefing or arguments. Couldn’t have had time to do much more than take a call from the Gov., say “Yes, ma’am”, and bang out a quick order.

      • leon

        :Beams:

        Rare praise, i’ll take it!

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I find myself saying this a lot lately.

        JFC

      • Drake

        I was wondering how packed the Oregon SC is that this point. Packed enough not to read the plain language of legislation.

        Rule of Law was nice while it lasted.

  9. Q Continuum

    The question remains: who would be a better president, Senile Joe or a Hate Bird?

    • AlexinCT

      Just saw a sleepy Joe commercial and I tell ya, that made we want to go out and vote…

      Against the lying fucking asshat.

      • robc

        4 years ago, the Clinton ads made me want to vote for Trump. The guy in her commercials would someone I could vote for. Fortunately, I knew she was lying about Trump, so I voted for Johnson instead.

      • WTF

        “What’s a Leppo?”

      • robc

        I didn’t know either.

      • WTF

        The fact that Johnson didn’t know wasn’t where he fucked up. He fucked up by not recognizing and handling an obvious “gotcha” question. He was asked “What about Aleppo?” If he was capable he would have responded “You need to be more specific, ‘what about Aleppo’ is not a question; which issue relating to Aleppo are you concerned with from a policy perspective?” Or something along those lines. He should have known enough to be prepared for that type of bullshit.

      • Shirley Knott

        A leper whose ‘r’ fell off and whose ‘p’ doubled?

    • Festus

      Stacey Abrams IS a hate bird.

      • AlexinCT

        A grounded one too. There are no wings that can make that loony fly…

  10. Florida Man

    I like the no chop bebe. It took me a minute to figure out which painting was posted.

  11. AlmightyJB

    What are you doing with that marker?

    • Swiss Servator

      Hold still, this will only take a minute….

      “P-R-O-P-E-R-T-Y O-F S-T-E-V-E S-M-I-T-H”

      • AlmightyJB

        LOL

  12. Nephilium

    So in local news, only 28 calls about “mass gatherings” over the weekend to the CLE cops when patios opened up here in Ohio (leading to 4 citations). The manager of one of the places cited is keeping his job after telling someone to go back to the country you came from.

    In bad news, DeWine is threatening food and liquor licenses for businesses that aren’t controlling their guests well enough.

    • Annoyed Nomad

      If there actually was true investigative journalism, someone would follow-up on the infection/sickness/death rates of areas where people violated the social distance rules vs areas where the docile inhabitants followed the rules. My hypothesis: the difference would fall within the margin of error.

    • Q Continuum

      “I’m appalled. I get sex education is vital in anyone’s life but when there’s raw topics like this it’s something else.”

      Look Fat, why aren’t you teaching your kids sex ed at home then? If you agitate for the government to teach sex ed, you don’t really get to complain about how they do it. Take some personal responsibility.

      • R C Dean

        “why aren’t you teaching your kids sex ed at home“

        I believe there are numerous online learning resources for this very subject.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        Look Fat, why aren’t you teaching your kids sex ed at home then?

        Pretty sure that’s illegal everywhere. Except maybe Alabama.

    • Pat

      It wasn’t dirty or anything, the answer was “You know it when you see it”.

    • Florida Man

      I feel bad for the involved parents but the rest voted to dump their kids on the state to raise so other people could pick up the tab. You want to control what your kid is taught? Vote to eliminate government school and pay for your own damn kids.

    • Heroic Mulatto

      The teacher was counting on the mom helping with the assignment.

      • Q Continuum

        Saw that one on PornHub.

        Definitely needed better lighting and seeing her C-section scar was a turn-off.

    • The Hyperbole

      She was only in primary school last year living her best life, now she is being asked to search for hardcore pornography.

      OFFS, first this woman should be pilloried for using the phrase “living her best life” and second she was asked to define hardcore pornography not search for it.

      • leon

        You got to see it to define it.

      • Festus

        I’m coming over to your side little by little, The Hype.

      • The Hyperbole

        Come on over, we have breakfast burriotos.

    • AlmightyJB

      Sounds like the teachers are grooming them.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That’s never happened in the UK before….

      • Ozymandias

        “Students were not directed to research these topics themselves on the internet because all the answers to the questions students posed were contained in the teacher-produced materials we shared.”

        Unreal.

  13. Festus

    Thanks to the others for filling in for Banjos and Sloop. I loved Mojo’s toy article yesterday! If I didn’t have it at least one of my friends or cousins did. Those “Clackers” used to hang off the overhead lines close to every elementary school when I was a tad.

    • Mojeaux

      Thanks, Festus! I’m decluttering my brain and past.

  14. Sean

    Saxsquatch?

    LOL.

    • Swiss Servator

      Who knew STEVE SMITH was so versatile?

  15. Drake

    I mentioned yesterday – Dan Bongino put together the timing of Obama’s set up of Flynn. They purposely pulled a stunt on Russia to make sure Flynn would have to take a call while on vacation. Then the FBI lied about there interview with him.

    • Q Continuum

      Confirmed: Obama is from Chicago.

    • R C Dean

      Couldn’t they have monitored the call regardless, since it was with a foreign national?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I think it was about creating a situation where Kislyak was guaranteed to call Flynn so they could.

      • Drake

        With Flynn in the DM, they could use the CIA instead of the FBI.

      • AlexinCT

        Yes, the NSA does that. But unmasking Flynn in that case would be needed, and that didn’t happen. This was one of the many attempts to run setup setup job by Obama & his administration, and this was run specifically to entrap Flynn because he threatened Obama’s legacy and scandal free narrative.

  16. Pat

    AG Barr seeks ‘legislative solution’ to make companies unlock phones

    Last December, a Saudi Arabian cadet training with the US military opened fire at Naval Air Station Pensacola, killing three soldiers and wounding eight others. The FBI recovered two iPhones, and after failing to access their data, asked Apple to unlock them. The company refused, but eventually the FBI unlocked at least one of them without Apple’s help, and discovered substantial ties between the shooter and terrorist group al Qaeda. US Attorney General Barr suggests forcing Apple to take action in the future, saying “…if not for our FBI’s ingenuity, some luck, and hours upon hours of time and resources, this information would have remained undiscovered. The bottom line: our national security cannot remain in the hands of big corporations who put dollars over lawful access and public safety. The time has come for a legislative solution.”

    It’s not clear if the shooting was an order from al Qaeda, but the data shows that the shooter was in touch for an extended period of time with the organization, including its leadership. During the attack, he shot both phones in an attempt to destroy them, and he had been using apps with end-to-end encryption in order to communicate with the terrorist group. The FBI was able to access the data regardless, though Attorney General Barr and FBI Director Chris Wray suggest that results would have come much quicker if Apple had helped to unlock the phones.

    Or, hear me out now… you could go fuck yourself.

    • R C Dean

      “he had been using apps with end-to-end encryption in order to communicate with the terrorist group. The FBI was able to access the data regardlessl

      Well, that’s depressing.

      • robc

        Maybe they used a poor algorithm or a 1 time pad twice.

      • leon

        In software security, the weakest link in known to be the user. The second weakest link is the programmer who didn’t read all the details about the cryptography scheme he copy and pasted from stack overflow.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The third weakest link is the cryptography scheme that was created by NSA mathematicians and has a vulnerability known only to them that was posted to stackoverflow.

      • bacon-magic

        You should’ve already known that.

      • Pat

        The messages are only encrypted in transit. They probably either brute forced his phone and found all the stored messages in the app, or did the same from the other end with a device they picked off some dead goat herder in Afghanistan.

    • Pat

      Some fuckin’ gamer nerds stole our name and logo? This an outrage

      • Heroic Mulatto

        That’s Dr. Fuckin Gamer Nerd to you, pal.

      • Pat

        1 v 1 me bro!

      • AlexinCT

        Weinner gets to call the other his beaiotch?

      • straffinrun

        Jian Yang!

    • Nephilium

      I was not able to find it through the search.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Anyone still playing Age of Empires II? Asking for a friend.

    • UnCivilServant

      Dr Fu Manchu?

      Can’t trust that guy.

    • Pat

      I work with these guys on a production line.

      … if you know what I mean…

    • AlexinCT

      Better to find this shit out early on so you are not then fucked later, man…

      • Atanarjuat

        Yeah, when I was in Britain, there were a few beautiful young women here and there but for some reason the ones with young children, at least that I saw in public, were worse than that. It was like reverse eugenics.

    • AlmightyJB

      “skepticism of science”

      That’s skepticism of scientists not science, also known as actual science.

      • WTF

        If you question our policy decrees, you don’t believe in science!!11!!!

      • Overt

        I believe that is “Skepticism of over educated sooth-sayers with excel spreadsheets” not actual scientists.

      • leon

        Look, all your “Coding standards” are just style. You have no idea how to verify the accuracy of the deep scientific calculations my Excel Spreadsheet does.

      • AlexinCT

        The credentialed elite class is pissed that their appeals to expertise are no longer taken at face value after they repeatedly prove their only expertise is in pretending they know shit and then fucking up and fucking people over. I had a lib asshat’s head explode on me the other day when he told me maybe this all was exaggerated, but that it was the fault of the models and modelers, so now that we have more info and can prove model accuracy,it becomes more meaningful. They failed, but meant well, seems to be a copout, he told me.You should have seen the reaction when I told him to apply the same logic to the AGW cult and their models.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        You know who else uses a lot of mathematical models?

        “Orthodox” economists.

      • AlexinCT

        Touche’ mon frere!

      • Heroic Mulatto

        It was meant as support. What makes Austrian economists Austrian is that they have huge disdain for most use of mathematical modeling in economics (Hayek calls this the fallacy of scientism). Charging Keynes with hubris and lab coat envy, they argue that the best economics can do is the qualitative description of human behavior, like much of anthropology.

      • AlexinCT

        I understood your comment HM. Yes, people that think ultra complex systems can be simplified modeled are idiots. I in a previous life modeled aircraft engines (that’s how I decided to quit being an AE and do software) and the shit we wrote besides being top secret was so complex you needed a model to understand your model. The amount of variables & complex systems had to be put into place to make the model work was insane and required years of work and rework before the military patented it. None of these models (AGW or COVID, and yes economics) can model a system with so many variables and unknowns with any degree of accuracy. But that seems to never stop morons from pretending the results from these incomplete systems are gospel.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        *cough* Krugman *cough*

      • Heroic Mulatto

        Humans are the most unknown and variate factor.

        That’s why central planners hate them so much.

      • wdalasio

        skepticism of science

        Yeah, that one pretty much always makes me want to slam my head on the nearest desk. It’s a comment I hear just about always uttered by the people who sucked at science and evaded math because it was “too boring”. They completely, utterly, miss the point of science and treat every pronouncement of the man in the white lab coat as an article of faith. They repeat broad theories when they have only a bumper sticker understanding of the theories’ limitations, caveats and potential shortcomings. They treat skepticism and inquiry as “denialism” when that is the essence of what science is about.

    • The Other Kevin

      “It’s reinforcing our partisan politics”

      So says CNN, where 75% of the articles are about how bad Trump is.

      • WTF

        Only 75%? That’s pretty generous.

      • The Other Kevin

        I have to confess, I usually don’t partake in CNN unless I’m passing through a hotel lobby.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      “It’s a symptom of American individualism, a national value that prizes personal freedoms, limited government and free will over all else.’

      And? Your point asshole?

      There are two types of people. Those who hero worship those ‘essential’ workers blocking traffic and those who think they’re punchable.

  17. Sean

    I guess the fun is over in PA. Lots of police out today pulling people over.

    First time since our lock down. *wistful sigh*

    • Trials and Trippelations

      Yep, when I was out last week where I live the cops were out in force including a road they don’t usually monitor for speeding.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Budget shortfalls. Expect the pettiness of enforcing minor infractions that cause no harm to anyone else to ramp up significantly over the next year or so. The police state we currently live in isn’t going away after the lockdowns end, it’s just going to refocus.

      • DOOMco

        Check your bulbs people.

    • DOOMco

      Budget looked bad.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Bah, I should have refreshed.

    • Pat

      The selection of right-sized t&a was almost overwhelming. 2, 15, 23, 54, and 66 could all come spend time on my yacht… IF I HAD ONE.

  18. Certified Public Asshat

    Americans are constantly worried about the power of government. The bigger danger is that we can’t get even basic things done – roads, bridges, masks, cotton swabs, voting, processing unemployment benefits, sending citizens money during a crisis.— Andrew Yang??? (@AndrewYang) May 18, 2020

    What’s your point Yang?

    • R C Dean

      “The government isn’t powerful enough. And it’s so incompetent!”

      • The Hyperbole

        “The food’s terrible and the portions are too small.”

      • R C Dean

        Being on the same wavelength as the The Hyperbole is . . . not uplifting at all.

      • Trigger Hippie

        I have some more bad news…

        😉

    • wdalasio

      This is pretty silly. Having power =/= competence. In fact, a more sober assessment would suggest that a government more limited to its key functions might be better suited to performing those functions properly.

    • R C Dean

      Well, he is bad. It Is Known.

    • WTF

      The virus is insentient has no ability to determine anything. The government is what is determining that businesses should be closed, and is destroying people’s lives and the economy.

    • Drake

      “The real penalty is the people at risk of getting sick,” Wolf said.

      Good one. Those power boners fade really slowly.

      NJ announced some vague schedule for reopening slowly months from now. My blood-pressure started to spike so I didn’t read it.

      • WTF

        Murphy was recently yammering about not getting back to normal until there’s a vaccine. Never mind any flu vaccine is usually only 50% effective at best, and one for this may not be available for a year. I get the feeling it won’t matter after November 3rd, though.

      • Drake

        I wish he was up for reelection too – instead of the weird odd-year elections here I can never keep track of.

  19. Rufus the Monocled

    Spoke to my daughter’s paediatrician.

    Dude thinks people are retards. I always got along with them that way.

    The cases of the flu in children’s hospitals in Montreal (he quoted data from St. Justine’s but he’s almost certain it’s the same for Montreal Children’s) and flu case remained higher throughout this scare where kids are concerned.

    He does oppose having closed schools on the simple premise it’s bad for their mental health and the data didn’t justify it.

    He then told me it’s been five years he doesn’t buy anything (where possible and admits it’s a challenge) from China. When I asked him about Canada’s bizarre and unacceptable decision to work with China on a vaccine if he would administer it he replied, ‘I pray it won’t come from China.’

    He thinks there’s a big money game at play here and when you see people like Gates involved it should make people think about what they’re demanding out of fear.

    By the way, Justin is doing this because in his little twerp mind he thinks he’s going to be a hero having been the ‘first’ leader to find it. That’s my theory. My take is the CIA needs to take Canada over soon. This guy is a threat to our national security at this point and the USA doesn’t need this headache coming from a shit head.

    • WTF

      Pass. The USA doesn’t need the headache of taking in Canada.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Think of the fun!

      • leon

        I mean we’ll take the good side of the Niagara Falls, and Vancouver/Victoria. But other than that…

      • Swiss Servator

        I will personally come out of retirement and act as the Military Governor of Banff, or Tim Horton’s.

      • Ted S.

        Is Vancouver/Victoria the one where. Vancouver dresses as a man playing a female impersonator?

      • WTF

        We already have hockey.

      • Tundra

        I’m waiting for Alberta to secede and create a real fucking country.

      • AlexinCT

        DAAAAAAMMMMMMNNN!

      • Drake

        Always assumed that when the U.S. breaks up, so will Canada.

    • leon

      From my understanding, and not trying to be conspiratorial, Gates has a financial interest in a Vaccine. And so pushing for the vaccine to be the panacea of our lockdown woes kinda benefits him.

      But i could be way off base. It’s all hearsay and i don’t care enough to investigate it.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        It certainly feels this way. I guess it all depend just how powerful or influential he really is.

      • Pat

        He’s the sole or majority financial benefactor of nearly every large public health organization in the world nowadays. His financial incentives are indirect as it regards a ‘rona vaccine. It’s got more to do with his authority boner and better digital ID tracking tied to health records.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        That’s frightening.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I don’t think he cares about money anymore.

        This is about legacy and saving the world.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        And that’s scary.

        It’s not the vaccine he’s look at. It’s Digital ID and that’s the troubling part.

      • Warty

        WRONG

        It’s the 5G

      • Idle Hands

        I’ll say this for the 5G truthers at least they aren’t cowering in their houses they are actually trying to affect change by burning down the towers.

      • invisible finger

        Yup. Why limit himself to just Greed when Pride is so within his grasp.

      • Pine_Tree

        Insert C.S Lewis do-gooder tyranny quote here.

  20. Count Potato

    “you can’t really get a virus off a soft surface”

    Is that true? Not even smallpox blankets?

    • leon

      I read that as “it never comes out”

    • R C Dean

      You can catch it, no question.

      You can also get rid of it, just not by wiping it, you know, with a cloth. Or just wait for it to go away.

      • WTF

        Smallpox is also not a corona virus, it is a variola virus, so it doesn’t behave the same as corona viruses because it has a different structure.

      • Florida Man

        JOKE KILLER! JOKE KILLER!

        Boo! Hiss!

    • Urthona

      To step on the joke further:

      small pox blankets are a historical myth. that never actually happened .

  21. Tundra

    Good morning, Swissy!

    Thanks for taking the ball. Remember, kick, don’t touch.

    I think Greece is making the smart play. People are ready to travel.

    I had no idea STEVE was so smooth. Dude must absolutely slaughter the ladies.

    Have a great day, people!

    • Pope Jimbo

      Interesting. Most of the young guys I know tell me that the girls don’t like a lot of fuzz on the balls they play with.

  22. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Tiffany on today’s rerun of Let’s Make A Deal is wearing a Wonder Woman outfit. Yowza!

  23. Pope Jimbo

    A lot of Canadian geese.

    Ahem, should be a lot of Canada geese.

    • leon

      My theory is this. Every time a Canadian is born, he or she is given a goose. As they grow old all the anger, hate and vitriol that the Canadian holds in is siphoned off by the goose, who thrives off of it. Whenever a Canuk says “Sorry”, that’s just one more goose chasing you for not throwing bread fast enough.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Fake news!

        If there really was some govt program in Canada where young girls had their beavers honked, Biden would have emigrated years and years ago.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I’M NOT THE BUTT END OF YOUR CHEAP AMERICAN HUMOR.

        TAKE IT BACK.

      • gbob

        Tell it to your goose, eh?

  24. leon

    Greece becomes first country to offer to waive 14-day quarantine for British tourists

    This feels like a trap. But as long as you don’t accept any wooden horses on the vacation, it should be safe.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      I can totally picture Karen who kept her kids at school while screaming for the lockdowns to continue booking a trip to Aruba to ‘unwind’.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        kept her kids home from school.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I’m fine with being wary of wooden horses, but I still think you wouldn’t want to shun Trojans while on vacation though.

  25. Pope Jimbo

    Trump needs to get some geese at his next presser. Just like Joe, when they honk he should say they are cheering. Why? Because I want to see the entire MSM go on a full 48hr news cycle about how Trump is totes lying about geese cheering for him. How outrageous it is.

    • leon

      +1 Sanders and the Bird

  26. DrOtto

    Do you know who else was eager to open camps in Europe?

    • gbob

      Euro Kamp Krusty?

    • invisible finger

      Uncle Ernie?

      • Tundra

        +1 fiddle about

    • Count Potato

      Tommy?

      • Count Potato

        missed it by this much

  27. The Other Kevin

    I posted a few weeks ago about my cousin’s step son who they thought had teh Corona. He spent almost 2 weeks in the hospital, but 2 tests came back negative. He eventually just checked himself out of the hospital and recovered at home. I just saw him this weekend. He’s doing fine. And they think the whole thing was caused by vaping.

    • Idle Hands

      I’ve heard from a couple of people in health care theorize think the vaping thing of 6 months ago is tied to this bullshit somehow. Similar symptoms.

      • Count Potato

        That doesn’t make much sense since there is very little vaping among the elderly.

      • Idle Hands

        Nah but they were thinking the some of the vape people we were exasperated about had this months ago before we had a test. Since they weren’t exactly at risk for pnemonia or the flu.

      • Idle Hands

        But Idk.

  28. Count Potato

    “TRUMP’S BIG FAT RISK”

    “Donald Trump’s revelation that he is taking the drug hydroxychloroquine to prevent coronavirus sparked immediate criticism last night, including from Nancy Pelosi who said the ‘morbidly obese’ president is putting his health at risk.

    Trump, 73, said he started taking the medication ‘a couple of weeks ago’ because ‘good things are being said about it’ helping coronavirus patients.

    He has previously touted hydroxychloroquine as a coronavirus ‘cure’, but the FDA has warned the drug – which is typically used to treat malaria – has a range of possibly lethal side-effects and has not been proven as an effective COVID-19 treatment.

    Several studies are underway into the drug’s effectiveness in treating coronavirus and whether it can also protect against the disease, but so far there is no clear evidence it is beneficial.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8332999/Donald-Trump-says-taking-hydroxychloroquine.html

    This whole thing sounds stupid.

    • Heroic Mulatto

      Trust all medical professionals.

      Unless he’s the Physician to the President of a Republican incumbent.

      • leon

        Sure, just don’t make him the benefactor of your will. Or something.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      The HCQ kerfluffle is a litmus test of sorts.

      Trump is walking the walk and it drives them nuts.

      has a range of possibly lethal side-effects

      It’s like these people haven’t listened to a pharmaceutical ad in the last twenty years.

      • pan fried wylie

        “AsthmaBGone…may cause asthma-related death.”

        “DepressAGone…may cause depression-related suicide.”

        Coming Soon: Insulin-analog that may cause hyperglycemia and birth control that may cause parthenogenesis.

      • R C Dean

        I am consistently amused by pharma adds that list the condition being treated as a side effect of the drug.

      • DOOMco

        Holy shit, pharmaceuticals have side effects?!

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      And never mind that Pelosi has had enough Botox injected into her face to kill a bull elephant.

    • WTF

      he FDA has warned the drug – which is typically used to treat malaria – has a range of possibly lethal side-effects and has not been proven as an effective COVID-19 treatment.

      Translation: Nobody has spent hundreds of millions of dollars jumping through FDA’s bureaucratic hoops to get FDA approval of this drug for COVID-19, notwithstanding the multiple studies showing excellent results on hundreds of Chinese cough patients. And the drug has been in use for Malaria treatment for a very long time so all of the potential side effects and contraindications are well known and relatively minor when used under a physician’s care.

    • Pat

      That 70 year old drug that’s nearly free, off-patent and been used with extremely minor side effects for longer than most of you have been alive will most assuredly kill you. Behold your true cure! Remdesivir! On-patent, with manufacturing and production in China, 100% WHO approved, and not all being pushed by people with financial ties to Gilead Sciences!

      • invisible finger

        Exactly. “Don’t use the Trump drug, use the Soros drug!”

      • Heroic Mulatto

        That’s over-egging the pudding a bit. The issue is sola dosis facit venenum. My cousin was administering HCQ for CV in dosages starting at 600 mg following the currently recommended protocol As can be seen here, it’s at 600 mg that the more serious side effects, such as heart arrhythmia and eye damage start to occur. For prophylaxis of malaria (which I have taken) and lupus, the dosages are not that high.

      • Count Potato

        “with manufacturing and production in China”

        That needs to end.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        Let’s not pretend that HCQ is being grown by American hands in Iowa. India produces the majority of HCQ, as well as much other pharma.

        I have no problem if market forces incentivize the production of more pharmaceuticals in the United States. However, you know and I know that isn’t what’s going to happen. The government will push through draconian and ill-thought legislation in “a rare show of bipartisanship” that will further enmesh the federal government into another sector of the economy and all the right cronies will profit.

      • leon

        Government is just the cronyism we do together.

      • Pat

        India doesn’t have a whole lot to recommend it, but I’ll say this much for them, thus far they haven’t covered up a viral outbreak in collusion with the WHO for months until it became globally widespread and then shut down exports of medical equipment and supplies to exert economic pressure on their trading partners. There’s no putting the rabbit back in the hat now, but this utterly manufactured crisis has demonstrated China’s uselessness as a trading partner when the shit hits the fan and exposed just how unbelievably fucked we would be in the event of a real one. Economic MAD, I know I know. It’ll be interesting to see how much leverage the United States has in that dynamic when a third of its working population is unemployed living off 5 trillion dollar a year deficit spending. “Hey stop that or these 100 million people we have on months-long house arrest who can’t afford to pay their rent with the TrumpBux we’re printing for them will stop buying your smart phones!”

      • kbolino

        Any effort to remind the PRC leadership that they need to choose between tyrannical despotism with ambitions of ruling the world or continuing to benefit from global trade would have to be a concerted and joint effort by their major trading partners.

        Until we can get across the notion that criticizing the PRC leadership is not the same thing as being racist against Chinese people, I don’t see that happening.

      • invisible finger

        The real racism is from the Westerners who wish they could impose a ChiCom-style regime in their own countries but restrict all the icky pollution and disease to the icky Asians.

    • Juvenile Bluster

      There’s no evidence that HCQ works. There’s no evidence it harms significantly either, but the small-scale studies that have been run show no benefit.

      • invisible finger

        So, just like a mask.

      • robc

        Have any been run properly?

        I have seen any serious tests that are running HCQ+zinc on early symptom patients yet.

      • robc

        What I want to see is a test with the following groups, with all patients having just started symptoms:

        1. Control (duh)
        2. HCQ only
        3. HCQ+Zpack
        4. HCQ+Zinc
        5. HCQ+Zinc+Zpack

      • robc

        And probably groups 6-8 that are a repeat of 2-5 with a different dosage of HCQ.

      • Pat

        By the time the trials are finished we’ll likely have already had herd immunity for a year due to high natural infection rates, and the government will be mandating a shiny new vaccine that lost its effectiveness 8 mutations ago.

      • invisible finger

        There you go, coming up with something that can’t possibly be explained in a 3-minute TV news clip on Ms. NBC

      • littleruttiger

        Yeah, who knows if it works, but I haven’t seen any study that includes zinc.
        Like you said, the ones I recall were basically giving to people on their way out

      • robc

        comment:


        From the beginning, it was known that Zinc is the active portion of the HCQ & Zinc combination. The HCQ was necessary to increase intracellular Zinc to block viral replication. The organizers of this study are both brave and brilliant…..but they also were not fully truthful. They called it a retrospective study when it is really a prospective study. The experimental arm was with Zinc and the control was without Zinc. The cohorts for the 2 arms were well matched and the regimen standardized. HCQ was not officially part of the study as it was dosed the same in both cohorts.
        Why would they need to organize the study this way? IMO, because they would have been blocked from doing a prospective study around HCQ. That is to dirty politics that good physicians are fighting against to save lives.
        What does this “prospective” study of “Zinc” show????
        1. All other studies which did not use Zinc along with HCQ are at best, irrelevant and at worst, fraudulent.
        2. HCQ with or without Zinc is useless in severely ill ICU patients…..as expected.
        3. Zinc with HCQ was effective early to increase recovery and prevent death….as expected.
        4. The study strongly supports the proposed mechanism of action of HCQ as a zinc ionophore.

        What we don’t know:
        1. How effective is HCQ + Zinc + Azithromycin when given in the ambulatory setting with the onset of symptoms?
        2. How many hospitalizations would be avoided? Deaths?
        3. How much is the transmission R0 value reduced for patients on this drug combo, especially in closed environments like nursing homes? How much is the environmental viral load decreased?

  29. Juvenile Bluster

    Is Bill DeBlasio the worst mayor of a major city in history?

    • The Other Kevin

      All over the news I hear how great he his. So to answer your question, yes.

    • invisible finger

      Possibly, but then there’s Detroit since 1950.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Baltimore says hi.

      • gbob

        From what I know about Detroit from watching documentaries, the problems in Detroit are all the result of multi ethnic crime gangs that can only be solved by some kind of robot police officer.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’d buy that documentary for a dollar.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        When does OCP take over the city though?

    • blackjack

      Can I introduce you to Mr. Garcetti? If not, then how about Villanueva?

      • Rhywun

        Deblasio is on a whole ‘nother level from those pikers. They are just bog-standard democrats. Deblasio is a radical who is out to smash the system.

  30. Count Potato

    “Four white St. Louis cops ‘beat a black Sam’s Club customer, 43, and his frail mother, 68, after they falsely accused them of stealing a TV’

    A lawsuit filed Monday accuses four white suburban St. Louis police officers of brutalizing a 68-year-old black woman and her adult son after wrongly accusing them of stealing a television.

    Marvia Gray alleges she was ‘violently and physically seized’, thrown on the floor, beaten and handcuffed during her arrest at a Sam’s Club store in Des Peres, Missouri, on March 23.

    She suffered serious and permanent injuries to her tailbone, back, shoulder, knees and arms.

    Her son Derek Gray, 43, suffered a concussion, three shattered teeth, an open head wound that required stitches, and metal staples, the lawsuit said. ”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8331907/Missouri-officers-accused-assaulting-black-woman-son.html

    • Pat

      Thank god they were able to pull through and turn it into a national race issue.

    • WTF

      Gray returned to his mother´s home and told her about the false accusations. They decided, based on how he was treated, to return the TV and get their money back.

      The lawsuit said that while the Grays were at the store seeking a refund, four officers ‘violently and physically seized Marvia Gray and Derek Gray, throwing them to the floor, beating them, handcuffing them, then arresting them.’

      I’m generally skeptical of the police, but there seems to be an awful lot missing from that story.

      • R C Dean

        Yeah. I mean, we all need to know the most important thing.

        Di the Heroes in Blue make it home safely?

      • Count Potato

        True, but the use of force seems excessive, regardless.

      • WTF

        Could be, and knowing cops in general most likely. But then again we don’t know if/what junior did to start the ball rolling. Every once in a while heavy use of force is actually justified. It just seems odd that they leave out so much story, it makes it seem like they are pushing a narrative.
        “They returned to the store to return the TV they bought…yada yada yada…four cops showed up and put junior in the hospital.”
        I’m just saying I would like to know the yada yada part before passing judgment.

      • kbolino

        Without justifying anything the police did, the article makes no mention of having a receipt.

        This could be an entirely innocent transaction, but taking a 65″ TV back to the store without a receipt is not going to go well. If you’re already frustrated or angry because you feel mistreated, that situation is going to escalate quickly. Couple that with the possibility that the staff has heard rumors of a TV getting stolen that day, plus a possible shift change in between the original purchase and the return, and you have a recipe for an extremely bad encounter.

        Assuming again entirely innocent intent, the choice to return the TV was not a wise one. I absolutely get the mentality and feelings of the victim, but honestly you’d think someone who worked in security (according to the Daily Mail) would have thought this through a little further. You’ve been accused of stealing, by employees and a police officer, going back to the store the same day is risky.

      • R C Dean

        Naive question:

        Absent full-on looting, exactly how does one sneak a 65″ TV out of a Walmart?

      • bacon-magic

        Blue polo and khakis. Works at Best Buy too.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Imagine Mama Cass in a mumu.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Stroll in to store. Grab a cart. Stroll over to TV section. Put one in cart off shelf. Stroll around the garden section until the lone 17 year old employee has to help someone find the right shade of brown mulch. Stroll out. Ignore the beeping sound.

        In a busy store, the garden section part of it isn’t even needed. Those 80 year old greeters are trained not to lay hands on anyone stealing shit no matter what, and if you go from “strolling around with your cart” to “steeling this shit and out the door” in less than 20 seconds to a waiting care, there’s no way LP is going to get to you in time.

        I spent a lot of time working big-box in an economically disadvantaged area as a teen…

      • R C Dean

        *grabs pen and paper, takes notes*

      • Mojeaux

        I live in a middle- to upper-middle-class mostly white suburb. I don’t see a whole lot of “People of Walmart” in our Walmart, but our Walmart is the most stolen-from store in the metro area.

        Private security driving around, a couple of cops roaming the front of the store, gates to get into the store that only go one way (in), and never mind the greeters. There is a no-receipt-no-refund policy too.

        The level of security in the stores in the more disadvantaged areas of town are nonexistent by comparison.

      • Agent Cooper

        Wal-Mart writes off thousands of dollars of thefts per year. It’s almost built into their business model.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Try billions… or about 1% of their revenue.

      • leon

        but honestly you’d think someone who worked in security (according to the Daily Mail) would have thought this through a little further.

        Well i could acutally see that making the decision easier. He’s not trying to pull a fast one, so he isn’t worried about trying to make it look legitimate, because he knows he’s not doing the wrong thing.

      • WTF

        And speaking as someone who worked retail in the past, “returning” an item for a refund that you never actually purchased is a standard shoplifting scam going back a long ways in time. Not saying they did it, but you are right that trying a return under those circumstances if they didn’t have a receipt (why?) would be a bad idea.

      • kbolino

        It pains me to say it, but the safest solution here was to call the police on the non-emergency number, tell them you’ve been accused of stealing and want to sort it out then return the TV, then let the police sort it out. Get them on your side instead of against you. Having a receipt and/or a credit card statement showing that you paid should assuage any doubt.

        None of this is to say that the actions of the police are justified or proportionate, but this could have been avoided. As always, the fact that the video doesn’t start rolling until shit is already going down makes this impossible to assess on video alone.

      • DOOMco

        The limited retail I’ve worked really didn’t do anything for a refund if the price was over $100 iirc. Without a receipt. Under that, we could issue store credit if it wasn’t open/easily restocked. And that was all on approval. It wasn’t an easy thing if there’s no receipt and they want cash/debit refund. I can see it getting out of hand if the customer gets a little heated.

    • Rhywun

      National conversation time!

  31. leon

    from Nancy Pelosi who said the ‘morbidly obese’ president is putting his health at risk.

    Trump was just trying to find out who was really there for him, and you passed Mrs Pelosi.

    • Swiss Servator

      She must be extra worried about Chuck Schumer!

      • R C Dean

        Schumer? Nadler.

  32. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Tard Tuesday: Cartoon Edition

    • The Other Kevin

      Was that supposed to be funny?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        If you’re tarded.

    • leon

      Maybe i’m the crazy ones, but the socialist left taking the tact that “people want to stay home and be forced out of work” seems very strange to me. seems to me that people prefer being able to make money rather than sit around and not get paid. But i guess they see this as a few eggs in their stepping stones to socialism.

      • invisible finger

        Why does “stay at home and not work” sound strange coming from the Free Shit Army?

      • Mojeaux

        That’s kind of what I’m wondering.

        It’s almost like whatever they perceive as “Team Red” is bad whether it’s contradictory to their stated/implied/subconscious agenda.

    • Count Potato

      Are there any good leftist cartoons?

      • kbolino

        I clicked the link back to the description of the “meme” itself. Man, what a shitshow. People who send death threats over the Internet are scum. But online death threats are the juvenile playground taunts of the Internet. Holding up “oh noes, I got death threats in my DMs” like a blood-stained flag is tiresome and lame. Being a toxic person begets more toxicity and you don’t get to claim innocence just because you’re LGBTQ or whatever other victim stack group. You’re a shitty person who was treated shittily by other shitty people. Enjoy the bed you’ve made.

    • Heroic Mulatto

      I like how she completely plagiarized the rhetorical structure and visual aesthetic of Tom Tomorrow’s “This Modern World”.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Yup, I wonder if he has noticed.

  33. Pope Jimbo

    A fun story that should help with your blood pressure. For those of you who don’t realize how long Minnesoda has had a plague of Norwegians: The Kensington Stone.

    There are two uncontested facts. Swedish immigrant Olof Ohman came to Douglas County, Minnesota, in 1879. While clearing land on his farm near Kensington in the fall of 1898, he turned up a slab of rock with symbols carved on the side and underside. These markings were later identified as Scandinavian runic writing.

    The generally accepted translation of those runes reads: “We are 8 Goths [Swedes] and 22 Norwegians on an exploration journey from Vinland through the West. We had camp by a lake with 2 skerries [small rocky islands] one day’s journey north from this stone. We were out and fished one day. After we came home we found 10 of our men red with blood and dead. AVM [Ave Virgo Maria, or Hail, Virgin Mary] save us from evil. We have 10 of our party by the sea to look after our ships, 14 days’ journey from this island. Year 1362.”

    Some will try to tell you that this is a giant hoax, but I ask you if it was a hoax I’m sure it would have had the Vikings beating the Redskins. Instead it was the other way around which is sadly all too true.

    • Count Potato

      Well, they were probably outnumbered, and apparently diabetic.

    • Tres Cool

      It was the earliest script for ‘Grumpy Old Men’

    • pan fried wylie

      Didn’t the syringes and used condoms make NY beaches too dangerous long before the panicdemic?

    • Urthona

      Subway cars should be fine though. In fact we should run fewer to pack more people in.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    My internet was out this morning. Extremely traumatic.

    Especially since I ended up watching some network news. What did I learn? We’re doomed, as a free society.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Almost killed by Net Neutrality?

    • creech

      Another lesson: Every politician thinks hindsight is the same as wisdom. Local health dept. head was whining this morning about “if we had started testing in January, we could have prevented this crisis.” Yeah, if “we had only let MacArthur cross the Yalu, and nuclear bombed Beijing, the Chinese wouldn’t be Commie today and suddenly inflicting unknown viruses on us.”

    • straffinrun

      Trump watched a documentary on the guy who created the polio vaccine. He turned to Jared and said, “Hold my Diet Coke.”

      • AlexinCT

        Was it the hat or the hair egging him on?

    • Count Potato

      LOLOLOL

    • Shirley Knott

      Pity about the ‘mortality’ typo.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    HM’s link about toxic individualism was fun.

    “Why can’t you people just do as you’re told?”

  36. The Late P Brooks

    That 70 year old drug that’s nearly free, off-patent and been used with extremely minor side effects for longer than most of you have been alive will most assuredly kill you. Behold your true cure! Remdesivir! On-patent, with manufacturing and production in China, 100% WHO approved, and not all being pushed by people with financial ties to Gilead Sciences!

    *applause*

      • AlexinCT

        It’s about giving mediocre fucks the means to punishing success, for sure..

    • leon

      geeze. The meme is awful. Just. Awful.

      But since we are on the subject. How long does it take to pay off the national debt at that rate?

      • AlexinCT

        Don’t forget to add a condition that you continuously keep spending twice as much as you collect and need to keep borrowing…

      • Naptown Bill

        I think it was Tom Woods on a podcast I was listening to who said something along the lines that the national debt is so high that it’s a national security issue. We owe China, as a for instance, so much money that there’s no realistic way we could ever pay the balance, and if China were to call in even a portion of the debt we’d default. At this point, the only way we could resolve our debt with China would be to invade and destroy the country utterly.

      • AlexinCT

        Reminds me of that quip about you being fucked if you owe the bank $25K and then can’t pay, but the bank being the one that is fucked if you owe them $25 trillion and can’t pay…

        This is why our credentialed elite feel this debt level is not a big problem. After all, they have insulated themselves from any repercussions from this shit blowing up. You and me however will be the ones becoming their serfs when all our wealth and ability to create wealth is destroyed by their shit. And they see that as a boon/bonus as well.

      • Trigger Hippie

        I think we still owe more to the Japanese…poor straff.

      • R C Dean

        As I understand it, here’s the deal with the US national debt (embodied in Treasuries) and being the reserve currency.

        At this point, nearly all money is debt. Look at a dollar bill – its a promissory note, which is to say, debt. Other countries base their currencies on the reserves that their central banks hold. The best reserves are the reserve currency/Treasuries, because they are the most liquid, tradeable, and stable reserves.

        Not only do we have no intention of paying our bebts, nobody really wants us to pay our debts, because that’s what their currencies are based on and actually depend on. We would have to construct an entirely new system of international finance and money if US Treasuries went away.

        Is having the world economy (or at least, the financial system) be constructed on a foundation of debt a good idea in the long run? Almost certainly not. But here we are.

      • AlexinCT

        The geniuses that got us here figured they would be long gone when the shit hit the fan and the people bearing pitchforks came a knocking….

    • Count Potato

      WTF??

    • AlmightyJB

      How much if you put 10% a year in the stock market at 7% average return?

    • Apples and Knives

      Listen, Homo, first thing you’re gonna want to do is invest a big chunk of that in stone. Stone is going to be huge. After a few million years, take some of that stone money and go all in on bronze. Put that bronze money in iron and you’re all set.

  37. wdalasio

    I have to ask, have dogs and cats started living together? I’ve finally found a comment from Pat Lynch (NY PBA president) that doesn’t churn my stomach:

    The NYPD needs to get cops out of the social distancing enforcement business altogether,… The cowards who run this city have given us nothing but vague guidelines and mixed messages, leaving the cops on the street corners to fend for ourselves.

    • Juvenile Bluster

      He says that about everything, especially when they’re asked not to choke people to death for selling loose cigarettes. This is a broken clock moment for sure.

      • wdalasio

        That’s absolutely true. That said, I’m not 100% sure he’s entirely wrong, even overall. I get the thuggish/racist cops narrative. And I think it’s largely true (although I’m inclined to think they look at black people as easy prey, rather than overtly racist). But, I also think it gives the politicians who set the police on the public a pass. Every bulls**t law they pass is going to wind up in some confrontation eventually. And we hear plenty of screaming about the police killing Eric Garner, to borrow your use of the loosie case, but we don’t hear a word about the politicians who imposed the tax and issued the law turning Garner into a “criminal” that the police would have reason to choke.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        (although I’m inclined to think they look at black people as easy prey, rather than overtly racist)

        As potential “prey”, I would argue that when the jackboot is to your neck, that’s a distinction without a difference.

      • wdalasio

        Fair enough. But, if they’re doing out of “easy prey” rather than hating black people, that means it’s a more widespread problem than BLM, for example, wants to portray it as.

      • Mojeaux

        We don’t hear about cops beating up poor white trash.

      • Trigger Hippie

        They deserve it for being poor and white in a society based on white privilege.

      • Naptown Bill

        We don’t *hear* about cops beating up poor white trash. Urban poor tend to be minorities, and usually black; rural poor tend to be white. Rural areas don’t generally have police patrols, so you don’t have cops out looking for people Lingering Suspiciously With Possible Intent, and therefore fewer police encounters. Anecdotally, I’d hazard that police encounters with Bubba in the sticks go south more often than you’d imagine.

      • Mojeaux

        Right?!

      • wdalasio

        Watch any episode of Cops.

      • Mojeaux

        I’d hazard that police encounters with Bubba in the sticks go south more often than you’d imagine.

        That may be true, but the way the media spins, truth is reality to a whole lot of people and not hearing about it is as good as it not happening or, as HM says above, is a distinction without a difference.

        My only point is that not hearing about it is an important piece of the issue.

      • Mojeaux

        Watch any episode of Cops.

        Oh. Yeah, I don’t.

        But again, not mainstream media.

      • Viking1865

        Poor white trash is mostly policed by rural police departments and sheriffs offices. Deputy Billy Bob has to police with the enthusiastic cooperation of his community. If he’s an asshole, he’ll find people ignore him in the grocery store, slide away from him at the Little League game, don’t invite him to cookouts. If he’s a real asshole and tunes someone up without cause, he might find his brake lines cut or a tie rod sawed through.

        NYPD 28th Precinct is in Harlem. How many of the cops in that precinct live on Staten Island with a bunch of other cops? The key to a productive and succesful Peelian policing approach is that the officers actually live in the community they serve. That they are members of the community that are full time protectors of peace and security, not an outside force imposing law and order.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Anecdotally, I’d hazard that police encounters with Bubba in the sticks go south more often than you’d imagine.

        Can confirm. Some of our neighbors get shit rained down on them regularly from the cops. A guy who used to work for me would get pulled over about every time the cops passed on him the road for a fishing expedition. They arrested his wife once because his prescription pills, in a bottle with his name on it, were in his wife’s purse. He was sitting next to her in the car but didn’t matter.

        We often have checkpoints near our house. I still don’t understand how these can be possibly be constitutional. I remember my wife, dressed well in our newer SUV, couldn’t find our papers in the glovebox. The cop just smiled at her, said “you’re not the type of person we’re looking for ma’am”, and waved her through. Our less well-off neighbors would have been cuffed and a tow-truck called.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Viking, my personal experience is the exact opposite. You forget that rural society isn’t some homogeneous mass where the police are looking for acceptance by everyone. They can break knees and let slip the dog of protect-and-serve in the trailer park and no one at Sunday Bible Study will bat an eye.

        Police batter and oppress the low class regardless of scenery.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        “you’re not the type of person we’re looking for ma’am”

        IE, you’re not an easy target because you can afford a lawyer.

        Like every other police/sheriff’s department these days, they’re looking for assets to seize without a fuss.

      • Pat

        Deputy Billy Bob has to police with the enthusiastic cooperation of his community. If he’s an asshole, he’ll find people ignore him in the grocery store, slide away from him at the Little League game, don’t invite him to cookouts. If he’s a real asshole and tunes someone up without cause, he might find his brake lines cut or a tie rod sawed through.

        I live in an economically depressed poor white trash community and the sheriffs are total fuckheads for the most part. More useless than aggressive, but they aren’t afraid to lay a beating down at the drop of a hat if the situation should arise. With the modern us vs. them police attitude they just don’t really give a shit anymore.

      • Naptown Bill

        How many of the cops in that precinct live on Staten Island with a bunch of other cops?

        ^THIS. I’ve heard more than once that a major complaint about policing in NYC is that the cops who are roughing up black teenagers for Unlawfully Standing Around with Malice live elsewhere. This is true in my area, for sure, and I believe it’s largely the case in DC as well.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Leap, what you’re saying about being a member of the community for law enforcement is true and it’s also true that they tend to not harass people they want/need to get along with on a day to day bases. Where the problem lies is what SSD is talking about. Once you you’re considering undesirable by the town and county law enforcement, they go out of their way to make your life hell until you leave voluntarily or via prison. And they can all really focus on it because a lot of the time they have absolutely nothing better to do.

        I did a lot of shady shit as a young man and the local cops knew but couldn’t prove it, so they used any pretense possible, justified or otherwise, to mess with me until I finally left.

      • Trigger Hippie

        I think I may have kinda fucked up who said what. The point stands, dammit!

      • R C Dean

        Last time I got pulled over was for rolling a stop sign at 1:00 a.m.

        I was heading home from the office, wearing a tie (also, a shirt and pants), and still had my badge on, which is a trifle cryptic, but I suspect the deputy was able to decipher “Boss Lawyer at the Hospital Where Your Wife Had Your Baby”, so it was a brief and courteous encounter.

      • Rhywun

        My only point is that not hearing about it is an important piece of the issue.

        This. The media have a narrative to pursue.

      • AlexinCT

        There is a story the media wants to tell you….

        Not the truth, but a story that fits an agenda…

      • Naptown Bill

        I had a conversation somewhat along those lines this morning about the number of black head coaches in the NFL. My position is that it may or may not be a racism issue at this point, but I think it’s very likely just a networking thing. People hire who they know, and at that level in the NFL you’re talking about a small club of people who went to school with each other, or who are family or family friends, etc.. So it might not be that someone’s thinking, “Better not hire the black guy, he’ll laze around all day ogling virtuous white women,” so much as, “Well, I’d love to hire some black people, but I don’t know any. Chip, on the other hand, I know from cookouts at the summer house. His dad and mine go way back.” And yeah, if you’re a black potential head coach who can’t get a serious interview because the decisions are already made then that’s a distinction without a difference, but I think if you’re looking at it on a systemic level–and assuming that really is the issue–the strategies you’d use to go about changing that are different.

      • Mojeaux

        They know. See: Eric Bieniemy, offensive coach for the Chiefs. Very impressive record, totally passed over for head coaching positions.

        Andy Reid is a coach’s coach. He teaches men how to coach and then kicks them out of the nest and up the ladder (or lets them go). He was not happy that Bieniemy was passed over because there was no reason for it.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Mo, I can’t verify this but the rumor is that no teams went after Bieniemy because they thought he would take the job at his alma mater Colorado. Another rumor is that Reid knows he isn’t a spring chicken anymore and if he wins another title or two in the next three years he’ll retire and hand over the job to Bieniemy. Reid’s outrage could just have been posturing.

        Again, just rumors.

      • Naptown Bill

        Not sure I buy it, but the argument I heard today was that Bieniemy was a “victim of his own success”. Basically, teams were already interviewing while the Chiefs were in the playoffs and subsequently the Superbowl, so by the time he was interviewing the decisions had already been made. There’s also some chatter about his actual talent level being boosted by being the OC on a team where Reid is the HC and Mahomes is the QB, but I don’t know enough about the guy’s record to have an opinion. It does seem counterintuitive that *some* team wouldn’t give him a shot as HC, but as a Redskins martyr I’m accustomed to the fact that these teams aren’t always making hiring decisions based on what you’d call sound reasoning.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Don’t know about Beiniemy, but I remember interviewing someone who looked like perfection on paper. We’re talking a litany of awards, accolades, and incredible experience. The interview couldn’t have gone worse and the candidate was completely unaware. I imagine the lack of an offer was incorrectly chalked up to discrimination from their perspective.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Well said. The problem most likely isn’t racism, it’s The Good ‘Ol Boy Network. That’s an issue across all fields public and private.

      • invisible finger

        Seems like NFL Head Coach is a high-stress job. I’d be wondering more about why there’s hardly any black GM’s. But maybe that’s become a high-credential position like it has in baseball, I don’t know.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Sashi Brown has a sad.

        In any case, the NFL is the most cloistered pro league, I believe. Lots of white folks in GM positions because their parents and grandparents owned or founded the team.

        No relegation or competition to join the marketplace, so you don’t actually have to fend off more efficient teams that would, for example, hire race neutrally (or exploit market inefficiencies by hiring over-competent minority candidates).

        “Legacy of Racism” may be an overused word in society at large, but its 100% applicable to the NFL.

      • Naptown Bill

        You know how now and again you see those family tree type charts that show how everyone in the media and the upper echelons of politics are related somehow, through some combination of familial ties, universities, and family friendships? The NFL is just like that.

      • wdalasio

        “Legacy of Racism” may be an overused word in society at large, but its 100% applicable to the NFL.

        Maybe. But, what you’re describing sounds like a lot more of a legacy of (actual) privilege. I mean, is Jim Bob from the trailer park getting those offers?

  38. DEG

    I watched the tennis ball video. Well, at least a we get a little humor with our Lil Rona Panic theater.

    “You’re going to hear, there’s a pond on the other side of my property here. A lot of Canadian geese. If you hear them honking away, they’re cheering, that’s what they’re about,” Biden quipped.

    That’s the most coherent thing I’ve heard him say in a while.

    The defence ministry says the thousands of tons of old Second World War bombs, grenades and other explosives that lie at the bottom of Swiss lakes have not affected water quality.

    As long as they didn’t dump any GP11. They need to sell that stuff to me.

    • leon

      So it’s “Cultural Destruction” when the Nazi’s steal art, but the Swiss can just go and destroy thousands of tons of WWII artifacts?

      • DEG

        Ssshhhh

      • DEG

        Ssshhhhh

  39. Mojeaux

    @Tom Teriffic from toy post:

    Somewhere there’s photographic evidence of me in footie jammies working the thing.

    Produce the pic or it didn’t happen.

    Glad you liked the post!

    • Pat

      Be advised, this link is not a video of scantily clad Kpop idols.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Yes it does. Sometimes forget how recently both Taiwan and South Korea were dictatorships.

    • Sensei

      I’ll definitely put it on the list!

      My problem is every time I hear Korean it sounds like Japanese that I just can’t quite understand. It makes for an odd experience until I can force myself to ignore it. it usually takes a good 10 minutes of watching the movie before it happens.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Hah hah! I had that experience yesterday watching SK street vendor food on YouTube.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    Wyoming is opening their entrances to Yellowstone. I wonder if governor Bullock will send the Montana National Guard to blockade the park road from Mammoth Hot Springs to Gardiner at the state line.

  41. Count Potato

    Does anyone know a good baked beans recipe that doesn’t use pork?

    • bacon-magic

      You are dead to me. Don’t make me roast you. I will fry your ass. You are half-baked and ready to be mashed.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      In any kind of recipe like this, you can replace the bacon with smoked beef rib meat or all-beef sausage.

      • Trigger Hippie

        I’ve ground up cheap beef hotdogs and added stale bread crumbs and seasoning to make a poor man’s meatball for my spaghetti.

        *hangs head in shame*

      • Pope Jimbo

        Good to see you Leap! I was just wondering where you’ve been (to be fair, I’ve been busy so maybe it was me not being around enough) and thought I was going to have to take the drastic measure of talking to Tundra to see if he’d heard anything.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Still working full time, wife working more-not-less, and the kids are distance learning at home means I have very limited time to fuck around on the internet when the Lynx get posted.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Glad to hear the Minneapolis Karen Patrol didn’t get you

      • Tundra

        Hi Leap!

        Are you going to send them back to school in the fall, or are they ready for college?

        Say hi to the fam!

    • bacon-magic

      (I’m not typing this)…I enjoy mixed greens Soul food style: they use turkey tails in greens instead of pork so that it’s “halal”. I’m sure it would be good in beans too.

  42. RAHeinlein

    Watching the Powell/Mnuchin testimony – just learned that State/Local Government contributes 8.5% to GDP. I think the Dems need to show their work on this one.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      State and local governments consume 8.5% of GDP is the correct statement.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    You’re just not hitting it hard enough

    Billionaire entrepreneur and Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban said Monday “it’s time to face the fact that PPP didn’t work” to help save businesses from coronavirus damage and called for a “trickle up economics” federal program instead.

    Cuban said the Paycheck Protection Program was a “great plan” with “difficult execution.”

    “No amount of loans to businesses will save them or jobs if customers aren’t buying,” Cuban said. He called for a transitional federal jobs program, hiring millions of unemployed Americans to work as contact tracers.

    “We need a transitional fed jobs program that trains and hires millions for a federal tracking/tracing/testing program as well as for support for at-risk populations, including long-term care,” the “Shark Tank” host wrote on Twitter. “We need to dent unemployment with stable jobs.” ,

    We need to pay federal workers to hide Easter eggs, and then pay some more federal workers to hunt for them. We’ll all be rich!

    • RAHeinlein

      Mark Cuban – Libertarian.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Stupid fuckstick that got lucky by selling an incredibly overvalued dotcom property to the dumbest company that ever hit it big.

        Cuban knew when to sell, that’s about it.

    • straffinrun

      We need a transitional fed jobs program that trains and hires millions for a federal tracking/tracing/testing program

      Start a land war in Asia.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      hiring millions of unemployed Americans to work as contact tracers

      NO

      FUCK NO

      NO FUCKING WAY

      That will turn into a permanent jobs program with a union that’s only purpose is to track and question Joe Citizen about their recent whereabouts. It will be the next giant leap towards Total Police State.

      • leon

        TSA writ large? Now rather than molest you at the airport, their jurisdiction is increased to securing all travel.

        Get that, and the funding and support for the wall will come soon enough. Just to keep everyone in.

      • AlexinCT

        Why don’t you want the new STASI work project to help out the disenfranchised, huh bro?

    • leon

      He’s an Amash style Libertarian.

    • bacon-magic

      How anyone thinks he’s a libertarian or smart is beyond me.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Paying your taxes is the most patriotic thing you can do Bacon.

      • bacon-magic

        Please don’t remind me…I owe and trying to figure how to pay the Robber Man.

    • Pat

      The fact that the top echelons of wealth in our society are dominated nearly exclusively by people like this makes me open to entertaining critiques of and alternatives to capitalism and free markets to be honest.

      • Ozymandias

        I’m being serious when I say this: one could arrive at the exact opposite conclusion from that same evidence. To wit – if this fucking mediocrity can become a billionaire, could it really be that hard to make a decent living?

      • invisible finger

        Exactly what I thought, Ozy.

      • kbolino

        Cuban didn’t make his money because he was such a good epidemiologist.

        That he appears on TV is more a function of our derelict media being propped up by people like Cuban instead of dying off as it was headed for.

        The best capitalism has ever been able to hope for, and has achieved, is to channel human nature away from its more destructive impulses.

        But it cannot change human nature altogether.

      • leon

        Haha. Yeah. Though id say that it is more evidence that even if someone is successful at business, they shouldn’t be planners of society.

    • kbolino

      Unless his plan is to spread the disease as quickly as possible, this seems like a dumb idea.

      That’s not even getting into the economics of it.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      “it’s time to face the fact that PPP didn’t work”

      He’s right about that at least.

      • kbolino

        I dunno, it seems like it worked exactly as designed. Hand out $350 billion to the first comers. Mission accomplished.

      • Sean

        It’s working for us…

      • WTF

        It will fail no matter how much money you pump into it if the businesses aren’t allowed to open and people can’t go back to earning a living. The longer this shit goes on the longer more of those closures become permanent and those jobs never come back.

    • Urthona

      I actually know him as a brief acquaintance because his niece plays on my daughter’s rec. basketball team. Or did whenever society allowed such frivolous things. He’s definitely a massive narcissist. Not as bad as Trump or Obama though. Probably needs to run for president.

    • WTF

      Customers aren’t buying because the governments won’t let the businesses open to sell to them, you idiotic fuckstain.

  44. Sensei

    Did this make the rounds in my absence?

    It neatly sums up the whole startup and buying market share. Guy realized that Doordash didn’t pick up the right price decided to arbitrage them.

    Doordash and Pizza Arbitrage

    In March 2019 a good friend who owns a few pizza restaurants messaged me (this friend has made appearances in prior Margins’ pieces). For over a decade, he resisted adding delivery as an option for his restaurants. He felt it would detract from focusing on the dine-in experience and result in trying to compete with Domino’s.

    But he had suddenly started getting customers calling in with complaints about their deliveries.

    Customers called in saying their pizza was delivered cold. Or the wrong pizza was delivered and they wanted a new pizza.

    Again, none of his restaurants delivered.

    He realized that a delivery option had mysteriously appeared on their company’s Google Listing. The delivery option was created by Doordash.

    • robc

      Want to try again on the link?

      • robc

        I would have pushed the pizza arbitrage harder and seen if I couldn’t have made a few thousand dollars a night off of door dash — reselling the same pizzas over and over again.

    • Naptown Bill

      I think he’s right about the third-party delivery model. This Uber – Grubhub deal that keeps not happening just feels so “Internet bubble” to me. I can’t tell how much of it is bad management and how much of it is a model that just isn’t working in the long term.

  45. straffinrun

    The pandemic is testing sibling rivalry — and you

    But with the distraction of friends, soccer and playdates an increasingly distant memory, some kids may be realizing that a sibling can, in fact, be a decent playmate, potentially strengthening a relationship that will support them throughout their lives.

    • Urthona

      I break up about 17 fights a day between my kids.

  46. The Late P Brooks

    Blip

    U.S. homebuilding dropped by the most on record in April and permits for future construction tumbled, underlining fears that the novel coronavirus crisis would lead to the deepest economic contraction in the second quarter since the Great Depression.

    The report from the Commerce Department on Tuesday added to dismal data this month showing a staggering loss of 20.5 million jobs in April and a collapse in retail sales and manufacturing production.

    Housing starts tumbled 30.2% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 891,000 units last month, the lowest level since early 2015. The percentage decline was the biggest on record. Economists polled by Reuters had forecast housing starts would fall to a pace of 927,000 units in April.

    ——-

    Though many states considered homebuilding as essential when they enforced lockdown orders in mid-March to curb the spread of COVID-19, the respiratory illness caused by the coronavirus, disruptions to building material supply chains likely weighed on activity in the last couple of months.

    As the country gradually reopens, there are indications the worst of the homebuilding slump is likely over. A survey on Monday showed an increase in homebuilder confidence in May. With at least 21.4 million people having lost their jobs in March and April, however, housing market could remain subdued for a while even with mortgage rates near record lows.

    Who could have foreseen that?

    • R C Dean

      Somewhere around 40% or more of the unemployment filings are people who have been furloughed (that is, they still have their jobs, for now). But the longer this drags on, the more will drop from furloughed to laid off.

    • WTF

      They didn’t “lose their jobs”, their jobs were taken from them by the government.

    • AlexinCT

      Yeah, that’s the easy way.. I like to crust & bread mine (thick cuts), then bake them. You can then coat them with whatever sauce you want.

      • PieInTheSky

        yes you can also sous vide them but this is an 18th century recipe

    • Tundra

      Calling Michigan for Two-Scoops.

      • Pope Jimbo

        No way. Biden would win MI in a landside.

        Wouldn’t you vote for Biden if it meant he’d take Whitmer away from your state?

    • AlexinCT

      HAH!

      She sure Biden was not talking about geese fucking outhinking him?

    • PieInTheSky

      does not look ethnic enough

      • AlexinCT

        They had cameras to film this in the 18th century?

        /pedeant

    • leon

      It could be a smart move. Give him a bump in Michigan.

      • straffinrun

        And in Stockholm. I don’t get Michigan.

    • Urthona

      Makes more sense than Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris, who far leftists seem to think is going to get the nod. This one at least makes strategic sense. If Whitmer is popular in Michigan. (I don’t see how she could be though).

      • leon

        Kamala is dead, after all her comments and attacks of Biden in the debates

    • R C Dean

      Oh, I disagree.

      Hell, yes. She has all the charm and charisma of Hillary, and seems determined to piss off as many Michiganders as possible. Put her on the ticket, and I like Trump’s chances of taking Michigan even more. I’m sure his team has quite the collection of video clips of her being the insufferable Karen from hell.

    • B.P.

      “Michelle Gonzalez
      @thesassyanalyst
      ·
      32m
      Replying to
      @thehill
      I’m on board. It’s likely his running mate will be president someday (theirs to lose). She showed she can take charge. I would vote for that ticket with extra enthusiasm!”

      Take me, Gretchen!

      • R C Dean

        She showed she can take charge.

        You know who else . . . .?

  47. The Late P Brooks

    Flocking

    More New Yorkers are ready to kiss the Big Apple goodbye during the novel coronavirus pandemic, but the city’s allure is already drawing in a new generation to take their place.

    The city is going to be hard-hit in the short-term following the novel coronavirus pandemic, but it won’t be the end of the city’s vibrance, according to Richard Florida, professor of economics and urban planning at the University of Toronto, who has studied historical pandemics and their impacts on cities.

    “In the short run, we’re going to see an acceleration of those family-formation, young-family moves out of cities into the suburbs. So what might have happened over two or three years is going to happen in a month,” said Florida.

    ——-

    “In the history of pandemics, young people, ambitious people, people from rural areas who want better jobs, flock to cities,” said Florida.

    The key, says Florida, is depreciating real estate prices. As office, retail, and high-end luxury pied-à-terres lose tenants, there may be more room for middle-class renters.

    “Now, we have a chance to arrest that and turn our cities into places creative people, artistic people, the middle class can live in,” said Florida. “Our cities might become affordable enough for artists and creatives and middle class people to move back… If I were 22 or 23, I’d flock to New York City in a minute. If I’m an artist looking for an affordable studio, I might be able to get one.”

    Sure.

    • kbolino

      Urbanization is at an all-time high, employment in agriculture is at an all-time low, I don’t think there’s a deep well of rural people looking to rush off to the big city like it’s 1920 all over again.

      • kbolino

        Actually, looking at the latest employment numbers (April 2020), the percent of those employed in agriculture has gone up slightly (1.8% vs 1.5% the month before), but that’s because a bunch of people working in other sectors have been laid off. The absolute employment numbers for agriculture have been essentially flat since 2000, although there was a small uptick in 2015 that has stuck (from an average of 2.2 million from 2000-2015 to an average of 2.4 million from 2015-today).

        Based on: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS12034560

    • leon

      “Now, we have a chance to arrest that and turn our cities into places creative people, artistic people, the middle class can live in,” said Florida. “Our cities might become affordable enough for artists and creatives and middle class people to move back… If I were 22 or 23, I’d flock to New York City in a minute. If I’m an artist looking for an affordable studio, I might be able to get one.”

      Well if he said he would do it…

      • creech

        Artists? Just what we need more of: galleries full of inexplicable canvases, welded junk, toilet bowls painted purple, something something representing LGBTQXYZ. Then we will have AOC and her kind demanding subsidies for starving artists who have such a passion for life that we need armed men to go out and collect money from the philistines who don’t understand modern art.

    • grrizzly

      Have the rents already fallen? Because everything else that one might like in a large city is shut down. The attractiveness of living in a city like NY or Boston is at its bottom at the moment.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I think this is a lot like Affordable Housing. In general people are for it, but the second the housing they are living in starts losing value (think the 2008 meltdown) and becoming more affordable, they lose their minds and start screaming.

        No way the well connected who own all that over priced real estate will let it lose value. They’ll demand policies and bailouts

      • Rhywun

        Should be falling. After gaining more than a million people since 1990 the last couple years are the first time since that the population is said to be dropping. Add Cuomo’s and especially Deblasio’s ineptitude plus their overreaction to the ‘vid and the rents should collapse.

    • Fatty Bolger

      If I’m an artist looking for an affordable studio, I might be able to get one.

      lol

    • R C Dean

      Richard Florida, professor of economics and urban planning

      Isn’t he the tool behind all that “creative class” nonsense a few years ago?

    • grrizzly

      The second wave is here! Need more panic.

    • Agent Cooper

      Or … they never contained it in the first place.

  48. The Late P Brooks

    Now, we have a chance to arrest that and turn our cities into places creative people, artistic people, the middle class can live in

    And those cities will be powered by 100% safe and efficient fusion reactors the size of a coffee can!

    • kbolino

      Step 1: Lower the property tax rates, reduce incentives that drive real estate prices up, reduce disincentives that discourage organic real estate renewal
      Step 2: Irrelevant because cities are addicted to tax revenue and will never implement Step 1

      • kbolino

        As an example of that last bit of Step 1, if you don’t care about liens or your credit score, you can just ignore the city inspectors and code enforcers. Your house will continue to deteriorate but you will be fine (roughly speaking). On the other hand, if you do care about those things, you will have to spend inordinate amounts of money appeasing the city inspectors and code enforcers, who as far as anyone can tell are capricious and malevolent spirits spawned from the seventh level of hell to harass you for the fun of it. At no point will any of these quasi-human beings question the net effect of countless attempts at improving the condition of homes across the city ending in failure because there were too many hoops to jump through and too little benefit to be reaped.

  49. Count Potato

    “Fox can’t get its story straight: While one host zings Trump for taking hydorxychloroquine, another host encourages its use. While one medical contributor calls it “highly irresponsible,” another says it’s “reasonable.” What are viewers to believe?”

    https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1262604231216902144

    OFFS!

    • kbolino

      Clearly the only solution is the journalistic hivemind. If not for JournoList, the people would be unable to think by the overabundance of different opinions.

      • Fatty Bolger

        As well all know, a journalists’s greatest asset is not natural curiosity, but the ability to stay on message.

    • leon

      LOL. So they are criticizing Fox because their contributors are not all on the same party message?

      • AlexinCT

        Not all on the same page as THEY are based on the talking points team blue has issued, is more like it….

    • Pope Jimbo

      What a bunch of rubes over there at Fox! How awful would it be to be one of their viewers and be deluged with different points of views. It must be exhausting having to make up your own mind.

    • Fatty Bolger

      How dare Fox offer 31 flavors, when everybody else is selling vanilla ice cream!

      And they wonder why Fox kicks everybody’s ass in ratings year after year.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Once again, CNN reveals more about itself than its competitors by criticizing them.

  50. The Late P Brooks

    At no point will any of these quasi-human beings question the net effect of countless attempts at improving the condition of homes across the city ending in failure because there were too many hoops to jump through and too little benefit to be reaped.

    Who wouldn’t put a bunch of money into his apartment building(s) in the secure knowledge it will only result in a net loss?