Thursday Morning Links

by | May 7, 2020 | Daily Links | 536 comments

I may have been wrong about South Korean baseball.

Looks like some sports leagues are about to announce their plans for the rest of the year very soon. I’m curious what’s gonna happen. South Korean baseball just isn’t doing it.

Problematic by today’s standards?

Russian composer Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky was born on this day. He did some solid work. He shares it with German composer Johann Brahms, Indian philosopher Rabindranath Tagore, actor Gabby Hayes, commie psychopath Josip Broz Tito, actor Gary Cooper, Polaroid cofounder Edwin Land, overrated lady Eva Peron, football legend Johnny Unitas, Motörhead’s Phil “Wizzo” Campbell, and economist Thomas Piketty.

Right, now a side note: go get or make yourself a meatball sub today. Several of the founders did just that yesterday after an offhand comment and photo of Chris Christie was posted in a chat. It was a good decision.  OK, now on to…the links!

Finally meeting basic sanitary standards.

It’s never too early for government officials to pat themselves on the back. Yes, it was a good idea, albeit way too late in the game. But calling it a success this early is the height of self-adulation by local officials.

I hope more people than just this guy’s family are demanding arrests. You know, because he was murdered.

Somebody takes a dump while the Supreme Court is on a conference call. That’s not a metaphor. It’s apparently what happened.

I’m shocked people on the right might not be as exposed to a deadly virus!

Oh the humanity! How dare those people choose a different lifestyle that isolates them. They should be forced to pack themselves into big cities that are gigantic Petri dishes, I suppose.

Anything goes when it comes to hoes, because pimpin’ ain’t easy.

“Fall” isn’t the word I’d go with here. But I could be wrong. If so, they need to get some form of OSHA in place.

OK, America. We can stop the cop-fellating now. Because it’s finally reached levels of ridiculousness I never thought possible.

Get your groove on. Enjoy!

Now have a wonderful day, friends!

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536 Comments

  1. AlexinCT

    Nice pic about them Rhinos…

    • Below Sea Level Hell Centro

      Dogs do it rhino style?

    • sloopyinca

      Give em a break. They were horny.

      • Festus

        You’ve topped yourself with this one, Sloop.

      • juris imprudent

        Pimpin’ for old Chinese medicine there sloop?

      • Fourscore

        Shortage of rhino horn, Asian families getting smaller. Coincidence? I think not..

      • Festus

        Gud’un!

      • AlexinCT

        I thought you might have been making some statement about the Rhino movement or something like that…

        Maybe I am ascribing far more depth to your warped mind.

  2. Pat

    Somebody takes a dump while the Supreme Court is on a conference call.

    I bet it was Thomas and it was a deliberate metaphor.

    • Festus

      Nope. He’d leave his floater. Remember “Coke can pube”? That’s something that always bothers me as a custodian. Whenever someone leaves a hellacious log for the next person to find there is never any evidence of wiping. Do they just zip up and carry on with their normal day to day with a shit-smeared bunghole?

      • sloopyinca

        “Meanwhile, according to unnamed sources, party-boy Brett Kavanaugh is now being accused of leaving an upper-decker once in college. House leaders are calling for an investigation and plan to hold Oversight Committee hearings to see if the omission of this could lead to his ouster from the high court.”

      • Festus

        The Washington Post. “Democracy Dies In Darkness.” I have no doubt that an entitled little shit-stain like Kavanaugh did all manner of things that would curl anyone’s hair back when he was a teen-aged asshoe. So did most of us. I think Ford is a fabulist but I’m willing to bet there are plenty of hi-jinks stories floating around out there. He’s a creature of the swamp that is human nature.

      • AlexinCT

        Your mistake is to think this… My kid drops some of the most monstrous beats you have ever seen. They are also floaters. So when he flushes, the paper goes down, but that beast never passes down..

        See HM’s old emails about poop knifes and their uses…

    • invisible finger

      Was probably Roberts flushing the Constitution.

      • AlexinCT

        No probably there. That guy is a fucking cunte. I am sure he was invited to some D.C. party and they fucking got him drunk & high, then got him in bed with a male midget with a beard plowing his can, and have been blackmailing his ass ever since. That or he is just a mendacious cunte.

  3. PieInTheSky

    Somebody takes a dump while the Supreme Court is on a conference call. That’s not a metaphor. It’s apparently what happened – is this really news worthy though? it would not be in civilized Europe.

    • sloopyinca

      It’s newsworthy because it’s the first time they’ve ever had arguments heard on a conference call. And because somebody wasn’t smart enough to mute it while they flushed.

      • Festus

        “If it’s yellow, let it mellow. If it’s brown, flush it down!”

      • leon

        I think we need to talk about the inherent racism in the way we talk about the Latrine

      • banginglc1

        Those racist red blood cells need to stop turning brown when they die!

    • bacon-magic

      Well you have to have a Supreme Court in order for it to be newsworthy.

  4. Don Escaped Australians

    Federal agents investigating a prostitution ring known as the “Norridge Girls” nabbed Marcin Ciborowski at O’Hare Airport on Valentine’s Day — back before the coronavirus changed everything. They put him in the McHenry County Jail . . .

    oh, well, turns out Cook County is exactly where it should be, and ORD is another place.

    William McHenry, like follow Illinois great Abe Lincoln, was from Kentucky.

    • PieInTheSky

      caught griping how coronavirus is hurting business – tell me about it. All good massage parlors are closed.

      • Atanarjuat

        The bad ones are still open?

      • PieInTheSky

        well yes because the hygiene was bad anyway.

    • juris imprudent

      Polish pimp? The jokes, they write themselves!

      • bacon-magic

        Should’ve named their bitness “Polish knob industries”.

    • Ted S.

      A little bit of Norridge is a dangerous thing.

      • Festus

        Nice, Ted!

      • Bobarian LMD

        This Norridge is too hot. This Norridge is too cold. This Norridge is just right.

  5. PieInTheSky

    I hope more people than just this guy’s family are demanding arrests. You know, because he was murdered. – are the people known? if yes, why are there no arrests?

    • sloopyinca

      Probably because the guy who chased him down was a retired investigator for the DA and the shooter was his son.

      • PieInTheSky

        the kings men?

      • sloopyinca

        Apparently. If they aren’t charged soon, I sure hope people there go and burn city hall to the fucking ground.

      • PieInTheSky

        are there still pitchforks around in the US or did mechanization of agriculture make then obsolete?

      • leon

        It’s actually part of the 2nd amendment. Every family is required to have at least one Pitchfork and four torches

      • UnCivilServant

        They still sell them.

        Most people don’t own any.

      • Festus

        I’ve got one but it’s lame and plastic.

      • bacon-magic

        I have one for turning over my compost pile.

      • Incentives Matter

        I’ve got a nice heavy-duty one for sod-turning etc. Garden fork rather than pitchfork, but it’ll do when the time comes. Which, if we keep going the way we are, will be soon.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Are we still talking about poop knives?

  6. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    OK, America. We can stop the cop-fellating now. Because it’s finally reached levels of ridiculousness I never thought possible.

    Where’s my article? I did the exact same thing last week to a, if I may say, somewhat unappreciative box turtle.

    Oh and don’t get started with the whole “but then you ate it” thing! I saved the turtle from being run over, and thats all that matters!

    • Nephilium

      He was risking his life!

    • leon

      Look, we expect common human decency from you. We have to celebrate the smallest amounts when cops do it.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Yeah, I’ll stop and help turtles but I don’t expect or want a writeup in the fucking paper for it. Jesus sees me doing it and that’s enough.

  7. Festus

    Heh. I just knew the overlords talked about the underlings… It’s the teachers’ staff-room all over again, isn’t it? Isn’t it!

    • sloopyinca

      We weren’t talking about you guys. We were talking about how photos can be deceptive. Then we were talking about meatball subs. Then we were making/buying said meatball subs. Then we were eating them.

      • Festus

        I don’t feature that thus I shall continue to don my tin-foil monocle whilst perusing the Glibs. One can’t be too careful in these trying times.

      • sloopyinca

        To be sure…

  8. Pat

    “Fall” isn’t the word I’d go with here.

    “Defenestration” is underutilized, as both a word and a practice.

  9. PieInTheSky

    Oh the humanity! How dare those people choose a different lifestyle that isolates them. They should be forced to pack themselves into big cities that are gigantic Petri dishes, I suppose. – I think this is more along the lines of how dare those people be rich. This would not be in civilized Europe.

    • sloopyinca

      Visit the countryside and rural shooting ranges. “Rich” isn’t a word I’d use to describe most of the people I’ve come across at those locations.

      • PieInTheSky

        yes but I was mentioning specifically the title of the article.

      • sloopyinca

        They’re bitching about rural and southern people. There’s plenty of rich people holed up in their penthouse apartments in NYC. If this was about wealth, they’d have profiled them as well.

        Also, that golf course at Palmetto Bluff they talked about is about the most insanely difficult course I’ve ever played in my life. A big donor to the foundation my dad runs got me on there once. It’s absolutely stunning. If I had an endless supply of money, that course would be third on my list of clubs to join, right behind Augusta National and Kinloch Golf Club. It would be ahead of Pebble Beach, although that’s technically public.
        Note: I’ve played them all except Augusta, which I’m kicking myself over for not having played when I had a chance to.

      • sloopyinca

        That was a verbose way of saying that May River Golf Club at Palmetto Bluff is one of the most beautiful, challenging places a golfer could ever visit in his/her life. It’s spectacular in all respects.

      • PieInTheSky

        golf is kinda boring though.

      • sloopyinca

        I thought I’d seen retarded shit posted here before, but I wasn’t sure.
        You’ve removed that uncertainty.

      • PieInTheSky

        I’ve never played but it takes a long time and you can’t drink

      • bacon-magic

        Boring to watch. The few times I do actually golf it’s always fun. Drinking helps.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        not enough dives and litter rides to the sidelines? maybe we should import some Russian and English fans to perk things up?

      • sloopyinca

        I’ve never played but it takes a long time and you can’t drink

        You’ve never played and you know it’s boring?
        And I would imagine there’s not a course outside Saudi Arabia that doesn’t have a girl riding around the course on a cart selling beer. It’s most definitely a sport one drinks while playing.

      • PieInTheSky

        well you can’t drink because you have to drive the little golf car thing

        Also Golf courses are few and not great in Romania and I can;t afford it anyway

      • sloopyinca

        Oh man, you need to get out more. Drinking and driving a golf cart are most definitely two things that go well together. Like peanut butter and chocolate.

      • Nephilium

        sloopyinca:

        One of my old jobs sure didn’t think so. Of course, that was after a company golf outing, the disabling of governors on the golf carts, large amounts of alcohol (and knowing the people involved, other substances), a water hazard, and a tree were involved.

      • Festus

        Going all red-neck in golf attire on a golf cart should be de riguere for any wannabe Shit-Lord. It’s got so bad up here that if you follow the paths you may as well walk the course. Because Rednecks.

      • Viking1865

        “I’ve played them all except Augusta, which I’m kicking myself over for not having played when I had a chance to.”

        Was Banjos in labor or something? What on your calendar could have possibly made you turn down an Augusta tee time?

      • sloopyinca

        I lived in Augusta for a couple of years a long time ago for a lumber company. I was in a regular card game with some locals, mostly doctors and lawyers. And mostly big, old money. Toward the end of one night, one guy asked the host if he wanted to play the following Wednesday and he said he couldn’t but that he should ask me since I had never played it. Of course I accepted.
        On Monday, we got word that all management needed to go to Oklahoma for a meeting the same morning we were to play. So I flew out Tuesday night. At the meeting, the president of the company said “ok, were being bought out and I wanted you guys to gear it from me that nobody is going to get laid off and all jobs are safe.”
        So I stood up and said, “you know, I could have been playing Augusta National right now but you had to call us here to tell us we all have safe jobs?”
        He replied “do you think that’s more important?”
        I replied, “yeah, probably more important than the expense involved in bringing me here on short notice when a phone call would have sufficed.”
        The housing crash hit a month or so later, I got called from Centex that said they had 40k homes in Atlanta alone that were built out and vacant and that they were stopping building as soon as they completed their build outs and that, oh by the way, they wouldn’t be paying their bill that month of around $2m. So I took a job in California to be closer to my kids and moved immediately and never got another opportunity.

        Fuck, that still pisses me off. Played Pebble Beach. Even played Sherwood in LA. And Harbour Town. But I’ll almost certainly never get on the course to play Augusta.

      • Viking1865

        Oh man that fucking sucks. I don’t even golf, but I’d love to just get on the course at Augusta.

      • sloopyinca

        I was there a bunch of times. We sold them all their building materials. And I went to the Masters a few days. It’s incredibly beautiful. And it’s a hell of a lot hillier than tv makes it look.

      • Agent Cooper

        “penthouse apartments in NYC.”

        A lot of them have fled to the Hamptons.

      • sloopyinca

        Although shooting clays can get expensive, it’s still not a sport exclusively for the rich.

      • banginglc1

        When I do my sporting clay course, I plan on it being an $50 day, between clays and shells, it really isn’t that cheap. I mean it’s clearly not break the bank, but it can add up fast, Especially if you do it often or want to pay for guests you bring.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        What I don’t get is the apparent need these people have to advertise their monogrammed Orvis shooting jackets, designer hats, overpriced neck scarves, and clay shooting guns.

        Why in the fuck would you draw attention to yourself like that in a time like this? I wouldn’t do it when times were good, but definitely not now.

  10. The Late P Brooks

    But Giselle Routhier, policy director of the nonprofit group Coalition for the Homeless, criticized the operation for forcing homeless people, who use the subways as a refuge, into the streets.

    ——-

    “Last night, the MTA and the NYPD began implementing a policy that is pushing hundreds of vulnerable homeless people into the streets in the middle of a pandemic,” Routhier said in a statement. “Meanwhile, thousands of hotel rooms sit empty — places that could be used to help homeless New Yorkers get back on their feet and maintain safe social distancing. The City and State are failing our homeless neighbors at a time when their very lives are at risk and when the solution is so easy and obvious.”

    It’s never enough.

    How many homeless people are camped out on your couch, Giselle?

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      With types like her, the answer is one of two options. 1) none, they’re icky; or 2) none, they’re all in her bed.

      • Festus

        Y’know, “The Big Rock Candy Mountain” is about a Hobo trying to lure a Punk into the lifestyle.

  11. Rufus the Monocled

    The conspiracy going around up here is that the Gates and Clinton Foundations, Merck, CDC, WHO, Gavi, and of course Monsanto along with world governments are all in cahoots to find a vaccine that’s being claimed may be mandatory (which I simply don’t see because many people can’t take a vaccine for various health reasons. My wife for example is allergic to eggs and a bunch of other things and can’t get one). Trudeau keeps harping about and is in tight with Gates and his own foundations.

    I don’t know much about what constitutes conflict of interest rules or how much of this is conspiratorial or is just coincidence and standard in politics.

    I do know the continued fakedemic lockdown is not adding up. I want to chalk it up to utter foolishness and weak leaders and want to keep it that way. Because that other shit? That’s crazy.

    Thoughts?

    • PieInTheSky

      the word cahoots is not used enough these days. that is my main thought.

      While the lockdown does not make that much sense, I think it is mostly politicians are afraid of not being competent enough to implement non lockdown measures, and they think lockdown will make em look good to their base – karens.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I think there’s some of that. I think that’s what Justin is doing. Just pump up and actually do shit and say, ‘We took the very difficult of detoxing the economy and millions of lives to save granny but we’re alive aren’t you? P.S. Love the cabin.”

      • Festus

        The ones that love the shut-down are not affected by it. I sneezed violently at work tonight and didn’t even bother covering up. (It’s seasonal allergies, People…)

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^THIS^^^

        I am someone lucky enough to not have any serious impact from this shit show (other than I have no access to a gym and now when I hike the start/finish areas in any wooded area is packed with pasty, basement dwelling, chubby idiots that would end up as bear food were there not tons of markings to help them move around), but I see the damage it has caused to others as well as the complete disregard for that by others in my position. It took me almost an hour to explain this to my girlfriend whom remained oblivious to the fact not everybody was in the boat she and I are. Once it sank in however, she still had trouble dealing with it, because she is one of those people that loves the whip cracked by the state more than being straddled with personal responsibility.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’m not sure about the Charlie Kelly in the mailroom web of relationships people are drawing but Gates has been acting like a completely shady twat all through this. Oh, and you left out Event 201.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Didn’t even know they existed.

        Yeh, the ‘Bill Gates predicted it’ thing going around grates.

        I don’t trust him. I can’t put my finger on that autist but there’s something off there. It’s all suspicious.

        I don’t like the stories about his vaccine programs in Africa. I have no idea if they’re true but wouldn’t surprise me if it was.

        Nor do I know if the claims of him being for population control is more myth than not.

        But once an asshole, always an asshole. You know what they say, to hide your asshole start a foundation.

      • sloopyinca

        I don’t know about any of that, but if he would have been strung up for MS Vista long ago, as he should have been, none of this would matter.

    • Pat

      Fauci is busily promoting a drug called Remdesivir from Gilead Sciences, with whom he has had financial ties in the past, while he shit all over hydroxychloroquine based on the “anecdotal” reports from practicing physicians, leading many governors to ban it. Gates has been cheerleading for a vaccine since about 2 weeks after the virus touched ground in America, and has been promoting digital ID as a way to provide vaccine tracking for years. All purely coincidental, I’m certain.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Gates has revealed himself to be a psycho.

      • PieInTheSky

        I have no opinion of one over the other, but there seems a massive attempt to avoid any generic that might work and push Remdesivir , although the data is not in favor of Remdesivir

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Digital ID. Is that the app my sheep-pant shitting friend think is a good idea?

      • Pat

        Not exactly. It’s a cryptographically signed digital certificate containing a unique identifier tied to data, like a person’s digital health record or vaccination history. One potential way of carrying around this digital certificate is with a subdermal RFID implant or quantum dot tattoo. Gates and others in the public health community are pushing for digital ID vaccination records to be mandatory for participation in public school or for returning to work after our lockdown.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Fuck that.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Is he crazy? The bigger question is: Will governments consent to it? This is the more troubling concern.

      • Pat

        Is he crazy?

        Yes

        The bigger question is: Will governments consent to it?

        Also yes

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Read that article. Holy shith that’s scary. I don’t believe Langer and MIT don’t know there are all kinds of potential unintended consequences to this. I’m not firmly in the camp of voluntary vaccines. Fuck this crazy shit.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Thankfully, it seems like we’re a long way off. By the time they make it mandatory it’ll be a loooong time.

        Odds it becomes a thing and made mandatory?

      • bacon-magic

        I’ll let Bill Gates do that if he lets me ID him with my bowie knife Inglorious Bastards style.

    • Count Potato

      As far as I know, no one has ever made a vaccine for a corona virus.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        They mutate too fast is my understanding. It’s why we don’t have a vaccine for the common cold.

      • Festus

        “The cure for the common Cold” has been a truism since my Grandparents were children.

    • Drake

      Never has there been an vaccine for any corona virus – not MERS, SARS, etc… So good luck with that.

      Also Fauci’s reputation is not going to stand up well. He used the adulterous Brit’s fake projections and now lots of stuff is coming out about his earlier capers.

    • Festus

      They want us cowering in fear and docile. That’s it. That’s all. That’s everything.

    • prolefeed

      I want to chalk it up to utter foolishness and weak leaders and want to keep it that way.

      I’m gonna go with “People who crave power so much they’ll do whatever it takes to be governor, suddenly getting to be as authoritarian as they want and getting a pass on it.”

      They ain’t loosening the boot on their serfs necks any sooner than they can get away with, cause it feels so good to them.

  12. Rufus the Monocled

    Cops do what millions of kids around the world do everyday.

    Give them Medal of Bravery. And a Pulitzer (why not? They give junk away all the time! And a brand new F-750!

    Turtles. They’re the reason why we can’t have plastic.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    “I’ve learned how to fly fish. I learned about shooting a shotgun,” says Bazzano. “I had never shot a gun before, and now I’ve shot pistols.”

    That’ll come in handy when the looters show up.

    • JaimeRoberto Delecto

      Thinn?

  14. Fourscore

    economist Thomas Piketty.

    This is from the Bee, right?

    Now do Navarro and Krugman

  15. PieInTheSky

    while I do enjoy the OldTakesExposed twater account, I often don’t get it due to Americanise sports focus, and not enough NBA at that.

    But the good part is you see something retweeted that you know nothing about, but you get it from context

    https://twitter.com/OldSocialPosts/status/1258258150358233090

    • PieInTheSky

      or stuff like

      DeShone Kizer says he can be greatest QB of all-time and combines Tom Brady’s intellect with Cam Newton’s body.

      https://twitter.com/NFLDraft/status/855170478369099776

      I have no idea who DeShone Kizer is but can assume he is not the greatest QB of all-time

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Mmmmmm, meatball sub…

      • juris imprudent

        Must be or they excluded SP, and I doubt they are foolish enough to do that.

    • Pat
    • Bobarian LMD

      Is this archery related? Nock.

      I can’t look at the YT here at work.

  17. Nephilium

    In baseball news, rumors have popped up through multiple channels that the Indians have been told to be ready to start Spring Training 2 – Electric Bugaloo in early June, and to be ready to play July 1st. In even better news, the rumors also say they’ll be playing in their real home stadiums. To end on a down note, the rumors are also that the stadiums will have no fans in them.

    • PieInTheSky

      Indians – dot or feather?

      • Nephilium

        Racist.

        The logo has officially been removed from all of the online stores. If/When the Jake (It’s still the Jake!) opens back up, they do have some gear there with Wahoo on it. I was more entertained that the girlfriend found a pennant with Micky Mouse and Chief Wahoo on it. I figured Disney would stay far away from anything that could get them called racist.

      • juris imprudent

        dot or feather?

        Neither. Bat and ball.

      • PieInTheSky

        well dot ones are into cricket

  18. Q Continuum

    The article about the guy getting shot jogging is so badly written, even after re-reading it I couldn’t figure out what they were trying to say happened.

    It sounds like the 2 white guys thought he was a burglar and mistook his identity? Maybe? Not that that makes it ok, it’s still murder. But it doesn’t sound like “modern day lynching” as said in the article.

    Also, WTF Georgia? You have video evidence of someone getting killed and you’re not convening Grand Juries because of Kung Flu?

    • sloopyinca

      The DA is a fucking coward. They don’t need a grand jury to bring charges, as far as I know. And they certainly don’t need one to make an arrest. He’s just protecting the son of his buddy. It’s fucking disgusting.

      • Festus

        “Too local.” (sorry, Sloop)

  19. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    I think dad hates me. He bought my daughter a portable speaker for her 3rd birthday. He loaded one song…. Let It Go

    It just loops over and over and over and over. And over. Send help!

    • PieInTheSky

      Shoot it. That’s why you people have guns. The speaker not the father.

      • AlexinCT

        That’s just a half measure man…

        Dad will then buy bigger speaker and put even more annoying single song on it…

    • Pat

      Send help!

      I’ll ship you a replacement with Call Me Maybe.

      • sloopyinca

        I’ll contribute Katy Perry’s Birthday Song if we’re doing this.

      • Festus

        “Friday”

    • Nephilium

      You could get her this, or any of their other child friendly albums.

    • robc

      My 4yo daughter has been singing the lyrics to Let it Go but to the tune of Into the Unknown.

      I don’t know whether to go insane or be proud of her ability to shift like that.

  20. Rebel Scum

    But calling it a success this early is the height of self-adulation by local officials.

    So you are not, in fact, Cuomosexual?

  21. Overt

    I reached whole new levels of depression the other day when everything I read was either a) some liberal scold demanding that if I was uncomfortable with my house arrest, I was a science denying psychopath who was literally killing grandma or ii) some conservative scold explaining that wu flu is the final proof we need that all manufacturing should be brought back to the US (not just out of China). And the cheerleading in the comments section of each article…shudder.

    Of course I am exaggerating…a bit. But do you know why I can tell this virus is a big nothing rather than an existential threat? These people are so unconcerned about the virus that they have days and days to shape and cram the narrative to fit into their pre-covid worldview.

    But it is sad that coming out of this nonsense, we are going to have a left that is increasingly tolerant of governors that would lock you in your home, and a right that has doubled down on economic central planning.

    • Pat

      Certainly if this debacle has taught us anything it’s that there are no potential risks to making supply chains for every consumer, industrial, medical and chemical product reliant on a bugfuck nuts communist dictatorship that decides to hoard medical supplies and break contracts when the shit hits the fan.

      • prolefeed

        we are going to have a left that is increasingly tolerant of governors that would lock you in your home

        They already were – they elected the scumbags. We just saw the mask drop.

      • Overt

        Alternatively, when companies, or government feels that there is a strategic resource such as masks or ventilators that it should stockpile, they should actually stockpile those things regardless of where they come from, instead of spending money on other BS and figuring you can get more inventory sometime in the future if necessary. We aren’t short on PPE because of China. We are short on PPE because we never replenished our stockpiles after H1N1.

        But we have moved away from “disentangle from China for national security needs” to people broadly condemning all international trade for anything with anybody. On Instapundit yesterday, I was reading articles about how any importing is bad, and why anything worth manufacturing should be manufactured locally. And I am fine with this, until governments start mandating.

      • Pat

        We run into a problem with moral hazard in a lot of cases because international trade is so heavily regulated and managed by central governments. There’s an expectation of government intervention to make things go right and fix them when they go wrong. If anything this experience should provide some useful context for American companies on just how cucked our government and institutions are to China and just how fucked you are when they inevitably behave like the totalitarian inhuman sociopaths that they are. The fiction of China as a reformed quasi-western business-friendly environment with some quirky government honchos has been laid bare for anyone who might possibly have been naive and incomprehensibly stupid enough to believe it in the first place.

        But then there’s the other problem that every large cap business in the United States is run by amoral fuckstains who would happily send their own mother to a Chinese forced labor camp to be manacled to a Christian pastor on one side and Uyghur dissident on the other to save 10% on widgets and hit their quarterly numbers. The sort of people who’ve been profiteering from the labor of political prisoners and children in a communist state responsible for murdering 80 million of its own people have to have a very high capacity for denial.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        their quarterly numbers

        It’s really not any more complicated than this. Even if they were paying legitimate workers some sort of scale, you’d still be buying Chinese goods all day every day. Even if Chinese institutions were committing many questionable acts but performing in free markets, few libertarians would question trading with them on such grounds.

        I’ve always pounded the Mexico drum, but that’s a long discussion.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      I think we need to reduce economic dependence on China. They’re psychopaths and they need to be treated like the Soviets.

      • PieInTheSky

        My general view is in the abstract as long as it is voluntary there is nothing against liberty to prefer less economic efficiency but more localized production. In the concrete, as long as there are nations states and some are shit, it is not a bad thing if people *voluntarily* sacrifice some purchasing power to not buy from certain countries

      • prolefeed

        I’m guessing some businesses are going to decide that it is more profitable in the long run to not make a critical part of their supply chain dependent on some place that might decide not ship the parts they need to stay in business.

  22. Rufus the Monocled

    Since we’re short on sports news. The Canadian Football League is asking for a bail out.

    • sloopyinca

      They need to sit down on the 55-yard line and come up with a plan.

      Lol, goofy fucking Canadians and their ridiculous field dimensions.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        And 3rd downs!

        Bigger field, less downs!

        Flutie killed it here.

  23. Rebel Scum

    The Supreme Court was making history Wednesday afternoon, holding arguments over the phone because of Covid-19, when all of a sudden there was the distinct sound of a toilet flushing.

    So goes the institution…

    • prolefeed

      11 and 36 are that rare lovely combo — Asian and bootylicious.

    • Pat

      3, 20, and 41 are welcome to share my PPE.

  24. Evan from Evansville

    I was very upset for the weirdness that I saw last night about Neil Ferguson and his affair with a woman who was married and apparently in an open relationship.

    I was positive that it was about NIALL FERGUSON. I was upset. He seems pretentious as hell and I imagine that he’s a helluva womanizer. Ain’t none of my business. But his book The Ascent of Money and Civilization: The West Versus the Rest are both fantastic. The first especially is one of my favorites. It starts with how money started in general and just expands in scope–both entertainingly written and in a way that easily allows people to grasp how money, then fiat currency, Renaissance banking, and then to further advances (? difficulties?) were developed.

    I have a bit of a straight-man hard-on for him. He seems to me to be like the Jeremy Clarkson of economics in England. I’m sure he fucks around with EVERYTHING. But again. None of my business who he fools around with. I like his work. YMMV. I’d be curious to know why. Those are the only two books of his (I think…memory and I don’t get along) I have read.

    • PieInTheSky

      The Ascent of Money – I remember that being a bit unlibertarian but solid

    • Q Continuum

      Neil Ferguson is the shithead who predicted MILLIONS WILL DIE!!!! and kicked off this fiasco.

      • PieInTheSky

        To be fair, millions die every year.

      • Evan from Evansville

        YES. I thought it was about NIALL Ferguson. Spelling busted me up, too. I was weirdly bummed out. But I respect NIALL enough that I don’t care about who he fucks around with. I do care about his political beliefs, but here I was only talking about his economic history works. He seems quite classically liberal. That may have changed in the past x amount of years, but I always read him in a positive light.

      • juris imprudent

        Which is the exact same stunt he pulled with Mad Cow in England.

    • Idle Hands

      I was surprised by how hot the piece was. She was a british 9.

    • Raven Nation

      Niall is now married to Ayan Hirsi Ali. They were having an affair before he divorced his first wife.

      • Evan from Evansville

        I remember that now. Goofy? Beautiful in its own way?

        Again–None of my business.

        Still think he’s the Jeremy Clarkson of everything I like. His flirting, romancing, adultery is well known. Not my fucking problem. Though I don’t grant him/them/they a pass, it’s none of my business.

        I have my own (mental)/physical) issues. That makes it more likely for me not to judge others. Live and let live. We can all agree on that, I think.

      • Raven Nation

        “None of my business”

        Agree. I was just providing information.

  25. Drake

    The video of the guy getting shot seemed to show two guys fighting over a shotgun. It sure looks a lot more complicated than “white guys shoots black jogger”. It was on CBS News so it may have just been made up or fake but true.

    • Festus

      We’ll never know.

    • sloopyinca

      Well, when one of those two guys is jogging down the street and the other one approaches him with a shotgun while someone else barrels down the road behind him in a truck, it isn’t really two guys fighting over a shotgun. It’s one armed guy with a shotgun attacking an unarmed person who makes the split-second decision to defend himself since he has no fucking idea why someone with a shotgun is attacking him on a residential street while someone else barrels down on him in a pickup truck.

      You need to see the whole video.

      • Idle Hands

        I’m actually surprised this is even in the news because it’s so totally cut and dry and a clear lynching. Lets be clear that’s exactly what happened. They tracked down a black accused him of a crime and killed him.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s in the news because cops, ex-cops, and their kin get a free pass.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      You can’t approach someone who’s not endangering anyone else while you’re openly armed, instigate a confrontation by attempting to detain them using the threat of violence, and then kill them when you have a disagreement.

      At the absolute minimum you should end up arrested and tried in short order.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        instigate a confrontation

        I have an answer for confrontations others instigate while I’m out and about; I hope they would survive it; armed or not, you can’t rush people: that’s an attack

        / general thought, didn’t watch the video

      • Idle Hands

        This isn’t the frontier. you don’t do this type of shit. You call the cops, you don’t have any right to brandish a firearm and hold someone hostage on a goddamn lark when they are jogging on a public road. I believe that’s called kidnapping, In fact I’m surprised more kidnappers don’t use this defense in the future.

      • leon

        What defense? The “I’m a retired cop and friend of the DA” defense?

      • Idle Hands

        agreed. This whole thing is despicable.

    • Idle Hands

      No those fuckers deserve to fry. I’m sorry. They drove down a jogger because he looked like a burglar they pointed guns at him who knows what belligerent shit they were saying to him orders they gave him. If that happened to you you would probably assume you were dead and its fight or flight time. He chose fight he shouldn’t be held responsible for these fuckers who have no authority or reason to detain him and they ended up shooting him. They should be tried for murder in commission of a felony as they essentially were trying to kidnap him in a public place.

      • leon

        Yup. I say hang em, and hang em high. Fuckers wanted to use lethal force, then they should bear the full consequences of it.

  26. leon

    My neighbors teenagers are at the “I love to listen to shitty music” stage. How do I know? Because they love to blast it on their speakers outside.

    • Spartacus

      I think you need to rent a PA system and crank Madame Butterfly at 5:30 am.

      • Festus

        That’s what they do here to keep the bums and vagrants away. It must be on a loop because every time I go to my bank it’s the same refrain from the same opera. I saw this 15 years ago in a heavily Native town. Seems to work.

      • Bobarian LMD

        every time I go to…

        Maybe it’s because they see you coming?

      • AlexinCT

        Great way to make a lot of friends or get videos about people shooting your ass for pissing them off….

  27. Rufus the Monocled

    Did you guys see the NFL guidelines for teams?

    This one is funny for many reasons but the part of the N95 is hilarious. What if people own their own N95 masks? Will they be forced to give it to the heroes?

    “Guidelines for club employees during the phased reopening include this: “Wear a cloth face covering or medical style mask (not an N-95 mask, which should be
    reserved for healthcare workers) while at work and in public to help protect against the spread of the virus.”

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Don’t wear the only type of mask shy of a HEPA respirator that will actually keep you from getting infected. Huh…

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I’m gonna wear a paper bag with Unknown Comic written on it. Will draw a rainbow and ‘Sheep’ will be the caption under it with a Leprechaun fucking next to a pot of copper.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    The new abnormal: some of the bars haves re-opened, here. The “rules’ were apparently made up with the specific intent of making things as awkward, uncomfortable and inhospitable as possible. People seemed to come out Monday, but not very many Tuesday or yesterday. Success!

    I have not ventured into a restaurant, yet.

    • Nephilium

      We should be getting the guidelines for restaurants opening up from DeWine today.

    • Atanarjuat

      Drove by some restaurants with people seated and eating on patios yesterday (Floriduh). Of course, I’m flat broke now so I won’t be partaking myself.

    • robc

      Outside seating is allowing here now, did a pickup from Mellow Mushroom last night, 2 people were sitting outside.

      Beer and win to go are half price, the beer list is getting short. I assume they are working thru their keg supply and not ordering any new ones.

  29. Q Continuum

    Today’s copypasta:

    “I posted this to r/libertarian but it got removed, thought here would be better. Ideally there would be an r/libertarianBDSM where we fight against government restriction on the sale and ownership of sex toys, but I digress.

    My girlfriend, a sub, wants me to handcuff her, and enact this fantasy of giving her a strip search, moving onto a cavity search, in which I become suspicious and conduct a “further investigation using my penis” (her words). While I am very much attracted to her, my libertarian ideals mean that I just don’t think I can consent to this scene. The idea of my very own girlfriend giving into and being taken advantage of by a piggy (law enforcement officer) just makes me totally soft. Plus with the symbolism of getting fucked by a cop rattling around in my head I don’t think I’ll be able to focus on cumming.

    I want to make her happy, this has been a long time fantasy of hers, but I just can’t get over the idea of my girlfriend being a bootlicker, let alone take advantage and blow my load thanks to the oppressive power structures that benefit government thugs.”

    • Q Continuum

      And the best responses:

      “EmoBoi5
      153 points
      ·
      6 days ago
      Just pretend the police are privately owned and not used as tools of the state

      level 2
      KitchenParty
      42 points
      ·
      6 days ago
      my girlfriend has a pinkerton fantasy”

      • prolefeed

        It’s sex. Anything that turns you on is OK.

      • juris imprudent

        Private dick. [Beavis: heh-heh, heh-heh, heh-heh]

    • Spartacus

      I can help. Have your girlfriend contact spartacus@stripsearchsex.com and I will unburden you of the responsibility of satisfying her.

      • Spartacus

        I hope that’s not a real domain name, but it probably is.

      • Festus

        *furiously types* Awwww….

    • Idle Hands

      What a fucking homo.

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^THIS^^^

    • leon

      If unemployment keeps rising on California, it could really hurt Trump in the election.

      • Q Continuum

        Yeah, he might lose that key state.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Lol. I’m on to you!

      • prolefeed

        Or they’d flee in even greater numbers to places like AZ or TX.

  30. Evan from Evansville

    This man passed away on Monday. My dad is interviewing him. He could spell backwards in a way that our brains don’t understand. You don’t have to watch the full thing to get the jist. This is how I grew up. Meeting people like this as my dad would take me along and I’d watch him get a story out of the individuals he could always meet. It’s amazing in a joyously weird way and worth a couple of your minutes.

    Dad would be driving me somewhere and see someone walking along. He’s say something like “there’s a story there” and pull over and just start talking to the person. I’d think it was stupid. Then the person would open up and a crazy and powerful story would come out. Nothing political or anything nuanced. Just a story about that person or the people in their lives.My dad could/can do that in a way that is unfathomable. It was an odd way to grow up.

    Yes, sometimes it was odd. I was almost eaten by a pet bear and almost run over by a train on a bridge over a river. Great times, and I mean that without any sarcasm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLtCI2iFYj8&feature=youtu.be&t=27&fbclid=IwAR0Z9bWMSEs7WxWJRzzbVT4jbaRfn6285S7DNZdhtcRt08_L90pgsDwJq3U

    • leon

      That’s cool. My dad used to tell me that when he was a kid his father would take him to visit an old man who would tell them about watching the Wright brothers at Kitty Hawk.

  31. Pat

    Kraftwerk founder Florian Schneider dies at 73

    Florian Schneider, co-founder of highly influential electronic pop group Kraftwerk, has died at the age of 73.

    The German quartet set the template for synthesiser music in the 1970s and 80s with songs like Autobahn and The Model.

    They achieved both musical innovation and commercial success, and inspired scores of artists across genres ranging from techno to hip-hop.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      I have the original LP. My sister is eight years older than me and when I was old enough to rummage through her records, I found Kraftwerk. Of course, being a young stupid kid I thought they were Lawrence Welk but I grew out of it.

      • Pat

        I tend to enjoy the bands Krafwerk influenced more than Kraftwerk themselves, but they certainly influenced a genre of music indelibly for a very long time.

  32. PieInTheSky

    Nassim Nicholas Taleb
    @nntaleb
    1) I don’t write for magazines (except short comment every 5-7 years)
    2) @Reason
    is penetrated by exMonsanto shills/corporate interests
    3) Intellectual caliber is low, dominated by sub-naive empiricists
    4) I have many more readers than @Reason

    https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1258112791799566337

    • leon

      Ok other than the monsato agitation, is he wrong?

      • Q Continuum

        I don’t really get the Monsanto thing, but he’s right about what Reason has turned into.

      • PieInTheSky

        he is majorly against GMOs in general and Monsanto in particular

      • AlexinCT

        Some dude(s) working at Monsanto pumped & dumped the girl(s) he had the hots for, and then she(they) still wouldn’t even give him the light of day is my guess….

      • PieInTheSky

        to be fair 🙂 Monsanto does some dodgy shit and did have a bunch of scientists and journalists on the payroll, like most big corps do.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Yeh not sure what the heck went wrong.

        Can we blame KMW?

        And ENB is just ridiculous. Go write for Mother Jones already.

      • PieInTheSky

        I generally found ENB ok as long as she stuck to the sex beat.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Not in the age of Trump she is. She has her moments but really not libertarian.

      • PieInTheSky

        not libertarian – does not necessarily have to be if she writes ok in her field.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I disagree Pie. It’s a libertarian publication. Act like it.

        Half the things she muses about I can get on a liberal site.

        I go to Reason for a different take.

      • bacon-magic

        She’s utter garbage and her beta male boyfriend too.

      • bacon-magic

        The only good story she ever gave us was the fruit sushi one.

      • PieInTheSky

        Looking at what she retweeted recently I may need to change my mind

      • Chipwooder

        ENB has been obvious from very early on, like when she was gushing about how sharp a writer her friend Jill Filipovic is.

      • Pat

        Starting with about her 4th article after getting hired at Reason I started frequently linking the fluff pieces she used to write at Bustle as well as her personal blog where she regurgitated all the then-vogue leftist platitudes, which she eventually mentioned was one of the reasons she quit interacting with the commentariat. I know it’s petty, but I was pleased it pissed her off.

      • Atanarjuat

        I don’t consider that petty, because someone who has a platform for spreading ideas should be held to some kind of standard.

      • Festus

        ^^^!

      • Idle Hands

        It’s totally KMW. Gillespie is clearly beside himself at the direction they’ve moved in you can sense the tension in almost every podcast. I think he thinks they are spineless pussies.

      • Bobarian LMD

        I think it’s more Gillespie and Welch… Although I don’t go there much anymore.

        KMW took over the magazine, which actually seemed to stay truer to their roots, while the real TDS shit happened within their web presence, starting with the pollution of H&R.

      • whiz

        I agree, the magazine still seems palatable most of the time.

    • wdalasio

      Dear God, I’m actually shocked. The response was actually pretty sound.

      • UnCivilServant

        She’s going to be canned soon I guess.

  33. Count Potato

    You know what I’ve noticed. The media always ran stories about people suffering from disasters. Usually women and minorities hardest hit. There would be more coverage if it hit blue cities or could be blamed on team red somehow. Although they would always do at least a few interviews if a tornado hit flyover country. Now that half the economy is closed, where are all the stories about starving immigrant children?

    • Q Continuum

      They’re all already dead?

    • Rufus the Monocled

      This pandemic is crushing women and minorities.

      Another thing that disturbs the left-wing narrative. The other being the fact the ‘mom and pops’ they babble about are going under. But they insist the lockdowns are necessary because Trump and crush capitalism.

    • Idle Hands

      I’ve been asking this from the beginning. We are at fucking 33 million unemployed(*official numbers) these cocksuckers acted like it was Armageddon when the gov missed a single paycheck we got human interest stories about the poor gov workers who were living paycheck to paycheck on 80k a year. This has been two months, I have seen maybe two or three human interest stories in that time maybe. I think a ton of it is they caused this fucking epic fuckup so they can’t turn around and wonder what happened as a direct result of them beating the drum to complete societal destruction.

      • wdalasio

        I think this is pretty close to accurate. I think the media-political complex has painted themselves into a corner. With everyone on lockdown, it’s really difficult for them to figure out how much of their problems is the pandemic itself and how much of their problems are a result of the lockdown. I mean, right now, the guy fired from his job and destined for a very long bout of unemployment and the guy who’s still working from home okay really don’t live that different a life. And the creditors the guy whose life’s been ruined aren’t coming knocking quite yet. It’s when things open up that the proverbial sh*t is going to hit the fan. That’s when people will be able to look and realize their lives have been ruined. That’s when the bill collectors will start coming around. And that’s when a lot of people are going to be really, really pi**ed off at the political-media class that foisted this on them. So, keeping the world on lockdown, in a lot of ways, is the only thing they really have. It’s a stall tactic. They’re hoping Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny is going to pull some miracle out of their hat to pull their rear ends out of the fire.

      • Idle Hands

        We are going to see a marked switch in coverage to the horrific economic conditions in a couple of weeks. It will be shameless, despicable and devoid of any selfevaluation of the role they played in the hysteria but it will switch and will switch quickly. Corona won’t even be a subject of conversation in three months.

      • AlexinCT

        Everything these douches produce seems to be to help unelect bad orange man. Approach it from that perspective and you will always be able to see through the lies.

  34. Certified Public Asshat

    San Francisco gives drugs, alcohol to homeless addicts in hotels during coronavirus, sparking debate

    Controversy is ensuing in San Francisco after the city decided to give alcohol, marijuana, and methadone to homeless addicts in hotels during the coronavirus pandemic, according to a report.

    Last Friday a man who describes himself on Twitter as “Formerly homeless addict in #recovery advocating for the #truth about homelessness and drug addiction. Faith, Hope and Love. SF Native. Tweets are my own.” tweeted to the city.

    He wrote: “I just found out that homeless placed in hotels in SF are being delivered Alcohol, Weed and Methadone because they identified as an addict/alcoholic for FREE. You’re supposed to be offering treatment. This is enabling and is wrong on many levels. @SF_DPH @sfbos @LondonBreed”

    The city’s department of public health confirmed the report on Twitter this week.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Again. From the top. Enabling is a FEATURE in the progressive play book. They *think* they understand human nature but they don’t. Hence why they social engineer. You know, Five and Four year-plans and all that.

    • leon

      A perfect example of how government never has the goal of helping, but of furthering your dependence.

    • sloopyinca

      No joke. This was a canary trap. Actually several of them since so many different reports were coming out.
      Expect some live target practice to be happening soon.

      • bacon-magic

        No dogs will starve in Norklandia.

    • Bobarian LMD

      Confirmed: Bitch waxes her feet.

    • Pat

      Hurrr durrrrrrrrr if you can’t afford to pay full time staff for 2 years while the government closes your stores then you don’t deserve to be in business derp durrrrrrrrrrrr

      • leon

        If all the wealth wasn’t privately owned, we wouldn’t be dependent on stores and consumers for paychecks.

      • AlexinCT

        The sad thing is so many idiots actually believe this shit…

      • Akira

        I love that argument. They also bring it up with the minimum wage.

        It’s like if I stabbed someone in the gut with a feces-covered knife and said, “If you can’t handle some massive blood loss and septicemia, then you were too weak to live anyway!”

  35. Rebel Scum

    3 Russian doctors fall from hospital windows during pandemic

    *adds to CoVid death statistics*

    • pan fried wylie

      When we taught our Bella to fetch c.2010, she didn’t stop to take a breath till her hips started giving out c.2018. Definitely not showing her Connec4!

    • leon

      So sperating families is woke again?

      What happens when the “contact tracer” runs into an infected person. Don’t they need to be quarantined too?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I thought people were being hyperbolic but it looks like California really does want todo.low the Chinese. If people refuse to go maybe they can just weld them into their homes.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        “to go the way of” not todo.low
        WTF?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Somebody is going to catch a bullet before this is over.

      • Drake

        Seriously! “We’re here to take your wife and kids to Camp Corona.”

      • Bobarian LMD

        Corona Beach.

    • leon

      It’s good to know however that the Judiciary wouldn’t allow such a breach of civil liberties to….

      Ah, it’s not even funny anymore.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        NewWife is a good sport, but this is (I am) wearing on her.

        My constantly pointing out that lack of freedom and governmental overreach are at the root of most civic problems is getting old. She takes the point, of course, but she’ll never stop believing that some ideal government isn’t worth paying for and working towards, no matter how much incompetence is on parade. I can almost feel her flinch when the apparent murderer in her sweet, sweet Georgia was a cop/investigator-type . . . she knows I’ll have something to say about it.

        I’m an asshole who points out problems and resents living under the constant threat of being trodden upon by the crazy apparatchiks and the insane policies my neighbors have enshrined in their zeal to have a government solution to every itch and burp in their lives. The news, the childish perspectives it’s told in . . . . it’s like being hosed down with shit all day.

        I can’t breathe.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        You and me both, brother. Suffocating is the descriptor that comes to mind. This isn’t the same country I grew up in during the 90s, let alone a country that even remotely resembles the principles of its founding. The rational part of my mind had accepted this. Now the emotional part is faced with the same reckoning.

        What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.

        -Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

    • Rufus the Monocled

      OMFG.

      You know guys, I wish nothing but bad things on these people.

      19 deaths and this is what they do?

      PURE EVIL.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        If I live in Ventura. I leave. Immediately.

        Also. It’s time for the Feds to step in or some group – anyone – to stop this frightening overreach.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        By the way, this will go down in history next to internment camps.

      • UnCivilServant

        So mostly swept under the rug?

      • Viking1865

        If Wendell Wilkie had won the election 1940 and interned the Japanese, it would be literally the only thing they taught in school about WWII.

        In my 20th century US history class in HS, the teacher spent a week, each, on Watergate and Iran Contra, and less than ten minutes on Japanese internment.

      • Gustave Lytton

        It seems to be a bigger thing now. But as a generic Amerika is a racist country, and ignore the details. Particularly the association of FDR and Earl Warren. The latter as an authoritarian CA state AG. Gee, why does that sound familiar?

      • Viking1865

        “But as a generic Amerika is a racist country, and ignore the details”

        Jonah Goldberg’s book Liberal Fascism nailed it. The line was something like

        “To progressives, the sins of past conservatives are the sins of conservatives. But the sins of past progressives are recast as the sins of America itself, and thus they manage to get conservatives to defend progressive sins in the guise of defending America.”

        Nixon did Watergate, but the FBI spied on Martin Luther King, not Bobby Kennedy.

      • Rebel Scum

        Federalism ends where the federal Constitution begins. But I suspect no positive moves will be made by the admin.

    • Rebel Scum

      California Begins Forcibly Quarantining People – Separating Families – Over COVID-19

      I thought families belonged together.

    • Hyperion

      “Is this for real?”

      Yes, you missed the late stuff on last night’s thread.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Yeah, wait until the economic effects really kick in. It’s not going to be pretty.

      • robc

        Right now, looks like about 90k excess suicides this year so far (I didnt do any seasonal adjustments, so that may be too high if more occur in winter months and less is summer).

        But yes, the final number could be really ugly.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      And yet, Australia has a tiny number of cases and they shut down!??!

      Nothing is adding up.

      I keep telling my wife. 62 000 cases in Canada. 3000 dead…..we’re 40 million people. We need to keep that in mind.

      • bacon-magic

        Pointing out the low death count means you’re a monster. #metoo #getoffmylawn

    • Atanarjuat

      Fuck. I know of 3 young men who have killed themselves since the lockdown started. One was the son of one of the sweetest women I’ve ever met. Knowing her I don’t see how she’ll ever fully recover. I’m convinced these guys would have kept going if they had something to live for (putting up towers and staging for music festivals was their job).

      Sorry, olds, but I would trade some nursing home deaths for young men in their 20s.

      • Drake

        My family had a loss years ago so my wife and I work with a support group – now suspended of course. But talking to a counselor friend last week, she said things are absolutely terrible right now. Suicides, alcoholic and drug abuse relapses, different types of abuse – all spiking like she’s never seen.

        Our church hosts both AA and NA groups – neither of them have met for 2 months now.

    • robc

      I think Bastiat had a thing or two to say about that.

  36. PieInTheSky

    Sex differences in academic attitudes and strengths appear across diverse nations, suggesting a biological contribution. In addition, the differences are larger in more egalitarian nations, contrary to a social-role explanation (N = 969,673; 55-71 nations)

    https://twitter.com/SteveStuWill/status/1258270520866304000

    • Pat

      This data doesn’t fit the narrative. Clearly there is a defect in the data.

      • AlexinCT

        My favorite tactic is to ask them why they keep acting so prissy and telling me I am man splaining to them when they keep telling me there are no difference between the sexes and to believe that is sexist… You should see the head explosions…

    • Pope Jimbo

      I’m sure that is because those poor other countries were poisoned by the colonial thinking of the evil western men who brought book learning to those other countries.

      Pretty sure that more than 70% of the STEM degrees awarded by Wakanda Polytechnic went to women. That shows that pure educational systems work just fine.

  37. Rebel Scum

    “I’ve always been kind to animals,” Keasling said. “Turtles are cool creatures. When I see one on the road, I always try to save them.”

    People and dogs on the other hand…

    • Pope Jimbo

      Wait until we find out that Officer Friendly was Patient 0 for some turtle virus that jumped species to him while he was carrying it while unmasked!

      • AlexinCT

        Was that all he was doing to the turtle? These freaks…

      • Pope Jimbo

        Just another example of how we don’t pay our Heroes in Blue enough. The guy couldn’t even shell out for a human prostitute.

  38. Mojeaux

    Oh ya think? This is why God made Walmart greeters.

    Mornin’, Sloopy, Glibbies.

    • Pope Jimbo

      You know in prior generations, old coots lived with their children. They weren’t expected to live on their own.

      • Mojeaux

        Yep.

      • Chipwooder

        Hell, it was that way in the early ’80s when I was a little kid. After my great-grandmother died, my great-grandfather lived with us for a while.

  39. Count Potato

    “** Plandemic movie is still available online… https://plandemicmovie.com/

    YouTube CEO Susan Wojkicki recently told CNN the social media giant would not allow information that goes against the World Health Organization.
    Far left YouTube wants to control what you can see and read.”

    Nothing on that site either.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      That’s insane. Publisher. Time for the lawsuits. Lesssgo!

      Plus that’s because of Trump and the election. Nothing to do with principles.

    • straffinrun

      Watched part one. Dr. W seemed legit, but in reality I have no idea. The “Part 2” I saw had David Icke interviewed. Project Mockingbird all over again or something new. Fuck, I dunno.

  40. Pope Jimbo

    Some people just can’t catch a break. I bet these two deputies wish they had done this traffic stop now then they could have spun their actions into some heroic thing to stop Corona Virus.

    But no, they performed a body cavity search on the female passenger in 9F weather on a freeway exit ramp and now everyone is all up in their business. Poor guys. It is like no one is even acknowledging the dangerous perps they were dealing with. Sissy ass civil rights do-gooders.

    According to the filing, Deputy Hamm pulled a driver over in Luverne in November 2018 due to a dangling air freshener. It alleges Hamm searched the driver without probable cause and then turned to the female passenger and ordered her to stand next to Hamm’s squad car without her coat.

    While it was nine degrees outside, the deputies allegedly tried to perform a cavity search of the woman on the Interstate 90 on-ramp. The lawsuit claims the deputies had no probable cause to lawfully conduct a cavity search.

    I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t want to live somewhere where people can recklessly dangle an air freshener in their car and not expect passengers to be searched!

    • Pat

      Government is just the name we give to the cavities we search together.

      • Pope Jimbo

        So I should refer to my dentist as “Guv”?

      • Bobarian LMD

        Does he search your cavities when you’re under?

      • sloopyinca

        What an asshole.

    • Atanarjuat

      Biden should try to implement the “dangling air freshener” defense.

    • leon

      I don’t think there has been a case where Cops manufactured a reason to stop someone using an air freshener, to try to do a cavity search in 9F weather. So how could the cops know what they were doing was wrong? Qualified Immunity Granted!

    • Count Potato

      “a dangling air freshener”

      That’s illegal?

      • Don Escaped Australians

        yes: obstructed windshield

        Why you no want the government to protect you from yourself?

      • juris imprudent

        I think I could honestly kill a cop that pulled me over for that. pour encourager les autres naturellement

      • Don Escaped Australians

        ? ? ?

      • leon

        Is it expressly legal?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Probably was punishment for contempt of cop

  41. Suthenboy

    What the hell is CNN doing just now reporting on this? The SC has taking a dump during sessions since the first time they convened.

    *I haven’t scrolled through the comments yet so I am guessing I am not the first one to make this comment.

  42. Rufus the Monocled

    The Daily Mail screams Sweden’s death toll hits ‘horrific’ 3000 mark.

    Neglects to mention Holland is at 5300 and Belgium 8300. You never hear them in the news.

    Boy Sweden is making enemies in high places it seems. Their must be some kind of back room deal where all the nations agreed to lockdown (Lockdown? On three….LOCKDOWN!) and Sweden quietly left the room saying, ‘That’s some crazy shit going on in there’.

    Just my imagination runnin’ away with me I guess.

    • Drake

      Sweden will hit herd immunity soon and have a healthy economy. Meanwhile California is going to hunt people who test positive for sport.

    • bacon-magic

      Sweden is ruining their tyrannical push disguised as a “public health lockdown”.

    • Idle Hands

      It’s almost unfair to make fun of canadians for him at this point but still it’s well deserved he’s a walking parody.

    • Atanarjuat

      Speaking of that level of thought and gun control, I’ve seen a flourishing of memes lately conflating men brandishing firearms with tiny penises. While overcompensation could be a real thing, it looks as if gun grabbers are deliberately trying to convince the most immature and unthoughtful segment of voters.

      • Chipwooder

        I’m willing to wager that most of the people spreading those memes also do a lot of outraged screaming about “body shaming”.

      • sloopyinca

        The gun grabbers are fixated on male genitalia. They think they’re being clever, but it speaks more about them than it does about people who carry.

        And FWIW, if I was trying to carry a replacement for my junk, I’d be carrying a shotgun, not a pistol with a 6″ barrel.

      • Chipwooder

        Ma Deuce

      • bacon-magic

        AA-12

      • pan fried wylie

        “I need a mortar to launch my tuna can.”

      • pan fried wylie

        *lob, not launch. much sexier.

      • Bobarian LMD

        120mm smooth bore, Baby.

        With a uranium long rod penetrator.

    • Count Potato

      Holy shit!

    • leon

      Being a commonwealth nation, it’s not surprising Canada would throw its weight behind the tea lobby.

  43. Certified Public Asshat

    Effective tomorrow at 7 a.m., the list of safe outdoor activities will be broadened to include golf, tennis, boating, fishing, camping, and other activities. It will remain critical for Marylanders to continue practicing physical distancing. Details: https://t.co/KJqRH2Ebhq— Governor Larry Hogan (@GovLarryHogan) May 6, 2020

    Thanks Daddy.

    • straffinrun

      More time in the yard. Thanks, and try not to get shivved.

  44. Pope Jimbo

    The things you learn when you read the local Minnesoda progressive news site’s Corona Virus coverage.

    I’ll break these up into sub posts because it is one huge article of nonsense.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Point:
      To be completely fair, they do a better job than the main rag in covering the breakdown of deaths. They actually cover the breakdown of who died pretty well, both by age and by nursing home or not. Still the tone seems a bit … gleeful that we just had our biggest single day death toll.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Point:
      We need more government workers. Contact Tracers specifically. Early predictions were for 500, new request may be for 4200. I’m not sure exactly what contact tracing can do for you these days. Maybe early on, you could have short circuited this stuff, but now? Why bother?

      • Drake

        It makes no sense at all – every healthy person should get it and develop an immunity. Given the level of people who are testing positive for anti-bodies and are asymptomatic, this seems like a huge waste of time and money.

      • Idle Hands

        Contact tracing at this point is a fucking wishful fantasy. If you’re asking for a miracle might as well ask for a unicorn that shits gold.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Final Point

      The shit heel states around us are all cheating and trying to make our Cower In Place orders look bad! The party line is now that the reason Iowa and SoDak are doing better in the deaths/million metric is because they are not doing a good job testing dead geezers. See our glorious Walz administration is doing a great job of testing dead people in nursing homes(not so great a job of protecting those people) for CV and thus our numbers are higher than those other states.

      No one better dare say that maybe cowering in place wasn’t the right thing to do!

  45. The Other Kevin

    Had a nice conversation with a friend who is a nurse yesterday. She’s been rotating into her hospital’s covid ward. But lately she isn’t working much. The hospital is mostly empty, even the covid ward. I told her she’ll probably be working more now that the lockdown is easing up. She said that’s ok, they have a separate ward now, and supplies, and they’re ready. It was encouraging to hear her sound positive now. She was a bit freaked out a few months ago.

    • Idle Hands

      Know a respiratory therapist she’s been busy the whole time because of all the staffing cuts they’ve done. Of course she thought this whole thing was bullshit the whole time based on the covid cases she saw.

  46. Count Potato

    “REVEALED: 20 members of Facebook’s $130M ‘independent supreme court’ – including the Trump impeachment witness who joked about Barron, the former editor of the Guardian and the first female Danish PM – who promise to be ‘politically neutral’

    Facebook faces a storm over the make-up of its new ‘politically neutral’ supreme court after it was swamped with left-wing luminaries from across the globe including an anti-Trump campaigner who poked fun at his teenage son.

    Critics have accused Mark Zuckerberg of ‘blowing’ his chance of setting up a ‘meaningful’ and ‘politically balanced’ oversight committee for the social media giant because so few of its 20 members have conservative credentials.

    The board will rule on whether some individual pieces of content should be displayed on the site. It can also recommend changes to Facebook’s content policy, based on a case decision or at the company’s request.

    But Twitter users were quick to point out that many of the panel are left-wingers.

    Right wing radio host Mark R. Levin tweeted: ‘Facebook censorship set in place with anti-Trump progressives, 6-months before the general election.’

    Commissioner of the Federal Communications Commission Brendan Carr said: ‘Meet your new speech police! Facebook now has an Oversight Board empowered to take down posts. Gotta be non-partisan people, right? Nope!’ ”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8296135/20-members-Facebooks-130M-independent-supreme-court.html

    • leon

      Who’s idea was a “Supreme Court”. That is so profoundly stupid, you’d need someone who went to Stanford or Yale to come up with it.

    • Pat

      Whoa! Never saw that coming!

    • sloopyinca

      They’re a private company and are free to filter content as they see fit. I may personally think it’s a poor business decision, however that is none of my business.
      Also, people who rely on FB to steer them in making political decisions should probably stay home on Election Day. Because they’re morons.

      • Count Potato

        “They’re a private company”

        How true is that?

      • invisible finger

        Comparing two publicly-traded companies, Amazon and Facebook. Amazon has been around longer.

        Amazon has over 11% of its stock owned by insiders.
        Facebook has under 0.2% its stock owned by insiders.

  47. Atanarjuat

    From the front lines of being an Uber driver during a pandemic. I took Swiss’ advice and am wearing an n95 mask. People are getting lots of Uber Eats and tipping decently but due to bars being closed there are virtually no scantily clad tipsy coeds to cart around, unfortunately. Also, no way can I pay my bills doing this long term.

    • Count Potato

      Sorry 🙁

      I wish I could get N95 masks.

      • Atanarjuat

        I have one filthy one from over a year ago when I worked for a construction company. I only wear it to reassure people.

  48. PieInTheSky

    So user poll: should my next post be Romanian food recipes or whiskey review?

    • leon

      I thought you did your whiskey reviews in the comments.

    • Chipwooder

      Recipes!

      You know, one of my favorite local restaurants is sort of Romanian, in that it’s run by a Romanian couple but only some of the dishes are from their native land.

    • Pat

      My ancestry is primarily Hungarian and Irish, which means I am obligated to hate Romanian food and love whiskey.

    • pan fried wylie

      American Pie: Too much sugar and too much golf, skip it and go to Civilized Europe.

      headline is the article, done and done.

      • UnCivilServant

        If what I hear from foreigners is true, pies in their myriad forms and diverities are far more widespread and perfected in American cuisine compared to the decadent nations overseas.

      • PieInTheSky

        depending on one’s definition of pie.

      • pan fried wylie

        American Pie was intended as the title of his new Vlog where he details America’s failings.

    • AlexinCT

      TIDDIES!

      • PieInTheSky

        those are illegal in Romania

      • bacon-magic

        *creates pornhub acct for Pie
        Sorry for your loss sir.

    • Count Potato

      Wow, it’s even from China.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’ll be damned, yet more evidence that we exist in a simulation.

  49. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloopy!

    I’m getting tired of going to bed pissed off, waking up pissed off and spending my day pissed off.

    Some B-52s is just the thing for that.

    Thanks!

    • Pat

      I’m getting tired of going to bed pissed off, waking up pissed off and spending my day pissed off.

      I’ve found that drinking 2-3 times more than normal helps.

    • straffinrun

      Why are you pissed off? I mean, I get why you’d be against what the tyrants are doing, but being angry all day is a choice.

      • Tundra

        Yes, you would think so.

        It’s a new thing for me, really. I’ve generally been in the top 1% of positive people on the planet, but this has thrown me. The effect that it’s had on my kids’ lives I think is the thing that gets me the most.

        But you’re right. I need to be better.

      • straffinrun

        It’s either your opportunity to shine or to wilt. Choice is yours.

      • Atanarjuat

        Yes, don’t let it get to you! We’re guaranteed to have ups and downs in life. The best revenge is really is living well.

      • Tundra

        Dude, I got the opportunity to start pretty nearly from scratch back in the last crash. It’s a long and painful story, but suffice it to say I’ve seen the downs.

        I think what pisses me off is the powerlessness. During the last one my hair was on fire so I had zero time to think. Now I have way too much.

        Add in the libertarian/anarchist awakening and you have a perfect recipe for anger. Not an excuse, of course, but a fact.

        Thanks, though. This is why I love you fuckheads.

      • Pat

        I think what pisses me off is the powerlessness.

        Same. It’s like watching a car accident. Except that a car accident generally kills you pretty quick and doesn’t unfurl a half century long process of losing all your rights and dying in a society unrecognizable to the one you started in.

      • tarran

        I was in the same boat, but decided that I should focus on positive things and ignore the news entirely.

        I’ve been doing yoga, working out and doing jiu-jitsu in the back yard with my son. Last week my wife and I shifted most of our savings into ETF’s to protect against the coming price increases from the inflation fueled bail-outs. I did a lot of reading on investing before making my choices.

        I also reorganized a lot of stuff in my house that were in the same messy state they had been in after we unpacked when we moved in last summer.

        I’m also plowing through some Getting Things Done/7 Habits of Effective People workbooks.

        I don’t read/watch the news at all anymore, and ma much, much happier.

        Of course, it was only dumb luck that I found out about Governor Baker’s order to hide my face in public. Has that crazy Karen not tried to get my son arrested for not wearing one prior to the order taking effect, I might have ended up cited or arrested when I went out shopping yesterday.

        I’m approaching this with a mindset expressed by Jocko Willink in his “Good” speech:

        Question: “How do I deal with setbacks, failures, delays, defeats, or other disasters?”

        Answer: “I actually have a fairly simple way of dealing with these situations, summed up in one word:

        “GOOD!”

        This is something that one of my direct subordinates, one of the guys who worked for me, a guy who became one of my best friends pointed out.

        He would pull me aside with some major problem or issue that was going on, and he’d say, “Boss, we’ve got this thing, this situation, and it’s going terribly wrong.”

        I would look at him and say, “Good.”

        And finally, one day, he was telling me about something that was going off the rails, and as soon as he finished explaining it to me, he said, “I already know what you’re going to say.”

        And I asked, “What am I going to say?”

        And he said, “You’re going to say: ‘Good.’ ”

        He continued, “That’s what you always say. When Something is wrong or going bad, you just look at me and say, ‘Good.’ ”

        And I said, “Well. I mean it. Because that is how I operate.”

        So I explained to him that when things are going bad, there’s going to be some good that will come from it.

        * Oh, the mission got canceled? Good… We can focus on another one.

        * Didn’t get the new high-speed gear we wanted? Good… We can keep it simple.

        * Didn’t get promoted? Good… More time to get better.

        * Didn’t get funded? Good… We own more of the company.

        * Didn’t get the job you wanted? Good… You can gain more experience, and build a better resume.

        * Got injured? Good… Needed a break from training.

        * Got tapped out? Good… It’s better to tap in training than tap out on the street.

        * Got beat? Good… We learned.

        * Unexpected problems? Good… We have the opportunity to figure out a solution

        That’s it. When things are going bad: Don’t get all bummed out, don’t get startled, don’t get frustrated. No. Just look at the issue and say: “Good.”

        Now, I don’t mean to say something trite; I’m not trying to sound like Mr. Smiley Positive Guy.

        That guy ignores the hard truth.

        That guy thinks a positive attitude will solve problems.

        It won’t. But neither will dwelling on the problem. No. Accept reality, but focus on the solution. Take that issue, take that setback, take that problem, and turn it into something good. Go forward. And, if you are part of a team, that attitude will spread throughout.

        Finally: if you can say the word “good,” then guess what?

        It means you’re still alive.

        It means you’re still breathing.

        And if you’re still breathing, that means you’ve still got some fight left in you.

        So get up, dust off, reload, recalibrate, re-engage – and go out on the attack.”

      • Tundra

        Spot on. Thanks, brother.

      • Pat

        I appreciate and respect guys like that, but I feel myself more comforted by Seneca to be honest

        History relates the story of the famous Spartan, a mere boy who, when he was taken prisoner, kept shouting in his native Doric, ‘I shall not be a slave!’ He was as good as his word. The first time he was ordered to perform a slave’s task, some humiliating household job (his actual orders were to fetch a disgusting chamber pot), he dashed his head against a wall and cracked his skull open. Freedom is as near as that – is anyone really still a slave? Would you not rather your own son died like that than lived by reason of spinelessness to an advanced age?

      • Raven Nation

        “I think what pisses me off is the powerlessness.”

        Yeah, this is a lot of it, coupled with the cognitive dissonance/hypocrisy/poor thinking coming from a large majority of the people.

        I won’t rehash it all here but the people who are willing to change their principles and then try to wrap it in some kind of high-minded philosophical thought is bullshit. People who demand that science determine everything but then embrace every conspiracy theory that comes down the pike; people who reject government power but then embrace lockdown orders; the endless emotional appeals masquerading as public policy, etc., etc.

        I live with frustration that even sitting people down and walking them through a logical thought process would make no difference.

      • bacon-magic

        Save that anger for the luau.

    • UnCivilServant

      “It’s coming right at me! … very, very slowly…”

  50. straffinrun

    Fear.

      • straffinrun

        Me.

      • leon

        Suffering.

    • Count Potato

      I’m definitely very worried about the economy.

      • straffinrun

        You can’t control the global economy. Let it go.

      • UnCivilServant

        Never! I’ll destroy it first.

        *pushes button*

        Why is there a Diet Coke on my desk now?

      • leon

        UCS! Get out of the Oval Office before they find you! RUN!!!

      • Count Potato

        Still worried anyway.

    • bacon-magic

      Control.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Wait two weeks.

    • invisible finger

      These “new hotspots” really seem to indicate that these states just hit the rising-slope part of the curve later than the coastal regions of the country. Which really just suggests that the attempts to flatten the curve didn’t accomplish anything in these areas, perhaps because they began social distancing far too soon.

      But the equality fetishists – mostly concentrated on the coasts – can’t grasp one-size-does-not-fit-all approaches.

      • leon

        Not only that, but these “Hotspots” rarely are. SD still has one of the lowest deaths per 100,000 despite being hailed as a “Hot Spot”. And blaming it on something we know lags by a considerable amount of time on re-openings that occured this week is disengenous. The Media knows this, but they will paint the story because they have an agenda, not a bias.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        2 per 100k…the hottest of hot spots.

  51. Festus

    Going to hit the hay, Glibs. Be excellent to one another.

    • straffinrun

      NIght, Festus.

    • Count Potato

      GN 🙂

  52. Pat

    Where San Francisco’s Spirit of Tolerance Came From

    Northern California’s cultural hub, San Francisco, has always been known as a city of nonconformity. It’s a place where residents paint their Victorian-style homes in pastel hues or the entire spectrum of the rainbow; run May’s annual Bay to Breakers race dressed as bacon slices or unicorns, or, at times, completely nude; and are just as comfortable dining out in leggings and flannel as they are in thigh-high boots and sweaters.

    But in recent decades, a deluge of tech workers lured through the financial promises of the nearby Silicon Valley have challenged San Francisco’s free-spirited nature, inflating already-outlandish San Francisco rents and everyday prices and pushing living costs to 25% higher than the national average. These high fees are driving out many of the city’s artists, writers and long-time residents; while the housing shortage is also partly responsible for the increasing number of homeless citizens, many of whom work regular jobs but still can’t get a leg up in this city that caters increasingly to the elite. With so much disparity, many wonder whether San Francisco’s progressive, open-minded attitude can survive.

    • Drake

      I think we have those. Forget what they’re called. The flowers end up getting too heavy and drooping.

    • Atanarjuat

      Very pretty.

  53. Lackadaisical

    So, new York will reopen presumably on a staggered and county by county basis.

    one of the conditions for our release is the three day moving average of deaths has to go down for 14 days. the county wide deaths has such huge fluctuations that we’ll never reach that benchmark.

    they’ll stop beating us as soon as we correct our behavior.

    • UnCivilServant

      And of course the order to the local officials will be “report more deads as Wuhan”

  54. PieInTheSky

    In local news the Romanian Constitutional Court had two decisions today

    One: as a background, there are standard pensions proportional to the tax payed usually from age 65, and special pensions which rt generally 5 to 10 times higher than the average standard pension usually from an earlier age. The special pensions apply to judges and all people employed by courts, cops, soldiers, air traffic controllers and some airport employees, all people employed by parliament including elected representatives, mayors, and a few more bureaucrats. There is increasing outrage in the populace at the special pensions, especially since a lot of well connected people retired at 40 with large pensions and promptly got a new job, often also in government. So the current government decided to cut the special pensions (excepting soldiers). This was ruled unconstitutional for reasons (reasons like the huge special pensions the supreme court judges get)

    Second: The fines applied to about 50k people for breaking quarantine were ruled unconstitutional due to being arbitrary (cops generally decided by themselves who to fine and what sum without a clear criteria but an emergency law passed by the government)

    • pan fried wylie

      fucking peasants need to shutup about special King’s Men Pensions.

  55. PieInTheSky

    Random fact: I usually mix American and English meanings of words sometimes, and most times when I see the word pissed I think drunk.

    • Don Escaped Australians

      what a bum

    • Ownbestenemy

      Just put this comment in a boot

  56. Ownbestenemy

    zSpent yesterday lakeside. Whatca refresher for the family. Good amount of people there, no masks at all, everyone friendly including the guy I had to leech some lighter fluid from since I forgot all my firestarter items for the grill. I hate lighter fluid but I had food to cook.

    There was no social distancing either and for a whole day did not have a worry in the world.

    Hell even the Statie I blew by in the highway just flashed hos lights to let me know to slow it down. Best of that was my one teen says “Dad just let off the gas and drop it into 4th gear…don’t hit the brakes” Apparently HE DOES listen!

    • pan fried wylie

      “I picked the wrong day to quit smoking. *huffs glue bottle*”

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yeah my proofreading of that was lacking. *huffs glue*

    • Don Escaped Australians

      I hate lighter fluid

      on-brand paint thinner might bother you less; “odorless” mineral spirits is even better

      it’s all just random dinosaur squeezins; just find a flavor you can afford, keep the flashpoint over 140F, and try to buy in metal cans to minimize pool fire risk in your home

      • Ownbestenemy

        Newspaper and coconut oil are my go to to start my coals/wood. I just forgot them. I tried to caveman it by stripping some palm tree bark but only had cheap matches. I was unpreparred except my knife.

    • Idle Hands

      I love it I’ve been drinking beer, smoking cigarettes with my seatbelt off and tearing down the highway at reckless speeds passing cops left and right since this thing started. I don’t want to go back.

  57. PieInTheSky

    “Given how the federal government has been hollowed out, the work of the states has been nation-saving,” @glgerstle
    writes:

    https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1258289978532073481

    has been hollowed out – has it though? is that what has been happening in America?

    • pan fried wylie

      I might accept a definition of “hollowing out” akin to a dyson spehere, where a solid mass is redistributed into a fragile shell of far larger diameter.

    • Pat

      has it though? is that what has been happening in America?

      If we would only cut back on the military budget we could easily afford the 3 trillion dollar deficit we are going to rack up this year, and the additional 3 trillion we *should* be spending!

      • leon

        I used to get into this argument with people.

        “The Federal Workforce is smaller now than in the 80’s under “Small gov” reagan! So what are you talking about”.

        Shut up with the bad faith argument. You Know that the scope of government is huge, regardless of how many people are on the payroll. Go fuck off.

        I also like that because there was some deregulation in the 70’s we are actually a small government now, and we need to pine for those days of yore. Forget that there were many reasons why the Fed Gov ended those regulations, because we had a really intrusive government back then, means that no one has a right to complain about it’s intrusiveness now.

      • Drake

        The military was twice as large in the 80s. The civilian workforce was much smaller.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        contractors: this game is played at every level

      • juris imprudent

        Reach across my table for the butter and your hand may getting pinned with a knife, just sayin’.

      • Pat

        “The Federal Workforce is smaller now than in the 80’s under “Small gov” reagan! So what are you talking about”.

        In large part because we classify a colossal part of the federal workforce as contract employees specifically so that we can pretend the federal workforce is not expanding even as we spend orders of magnitude more money on personnel costs. Good thing accounting isn’t a required course in J school.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        WRONG. See the entirety of the NOVA/MDDC district. Absolutely no development has occurred there in the last thirty years because there has been a complete lack of demand for federal work.

        /sarc

      • invisible finger

        Also Fed Gov shovels money to the states who do the hiring on the state payroll, meaning a larger percentage of state employees are paid with federal tax dollars rather than state tax dollars.

      • Idle Hands

        basically what the bailout of 2008 amounted too. Obama shoveling money to keep the states and municipalities affloat. Everyone always seems to have to tighten their belt except them. Best case a pairing down is when they have a budget shortfall and a hiring freeze.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        2008: Obama?

      • Drake

        Bush did a stimulus in 2008, then Obama shoveled money in 2009.

      • Idle Hands

        well bush/obama. Fuck them both.

      • Gustave Lytton

        And chafing at deferring their empire building, which comes back with a vengeance when the “austerity” measures are relaxed. Want to see a real second wave? It’s what happens when the coffers get reopened after a budgetary slowdown.

      • Chipwooder

        The DC metropolitan area has more than doubled in size since 1980 and become much wealthier, to the extent that something like seven of the ten richest counties in America are in the DC suburbs. This despite the region having no natural resources or industry other than government.

        All that money comes from somewhere.

      • Viking1865

        It’s the stolen wealth of the richest continent on the planet. It’s truly staggering how much money there is there. If you could show every American out there in the blighted and the broken and the poor places in this country the kind of houses the bureaucrats and politicians live in they’d change their voting habits pretty damn quick, IMO.

    • Drake

      Take a drive through DC at rush hour and tell me how it’s hollowed out.

      • Idle Hands

        I do it all the time. Traffic has been fucking awesome this past month and a half.

    • Idle Hands

      lmao. if anything this whole thing proves just how unneccessary and terrible gov is. Literally every single level of this has been a colossal failure of a response.

  58. gbob

    Some wives get very angry when their husbands don’t social distance.

    NFL star Earl Thomas is lucky to be alive after cops say his wife held a loaded gun less than a foot from his head … after she allegedly caught him cheating with another woman.

    When the women arrived at the house, they “discovered Earl and Seth naked in bed with other women.”

    That’s when Nina admits she pulled out the gun and put it to Earl’s head — stating “that she took out the magazine thinking that the gun could not fire.” But, cops say Nina was “unaware that the gun had a round in the chamber.”

    Cops say one of the women in the house shot cell phone video of the incident … which they say shows Nina pointing the gun at Earl’s head “from less than a foot away and it can clearly be seen that Nina’s finger was on the trigger and the safety is disengaged.”

    Fortunately for Earl, cops say the Ravens defensive back was able to wrestle the gun away from her.

    Cops say the cell phone video also shows Nina striking Earl in the nose before it ends.

    C’mon. What husband hasn’t had an orgy with his brother from time to time?

    • Pat

      Even when they do, tourism is going to be anemic since 90% of the fucking country is hiding under their bed like a bunch of quivering little girls and Big Business, which provides a colossal portion of their convention traffic, is operating purely in its capacity as an arm of the DNC to starve the beast until the Bad Orange Man is gone.

    • Idle Hands

      I can’t believe they haven’t just opened and lined up cops and volunteers to ward off the staties at this point.

  59. The Late P Brooks

    Great. My laptop has apparently blowed up. It’s doing some weird shit.

    Now I’m going to have to learn how to use this stupid Wn 10 box.

    Life sucks.

    • pan fried wylie

      First things first, go to Start -> Settings (Gear Icon) -> Windows Update & Security tab, and check for updates about 100 times. Once you get to the current version of Win10, it really ain’t that bad.

    • Pat

      Install Gentoo

  60. straffinrun

    Wife and daughter fell asleep on the couch while watching a movie. Was able to pick up the kid and put her in bed. Tried it with the wife and let’s just say that she wishes the bed were a little closer to the living room. *Thud*

    • AlexinCT

      I thought this would have a romantic ending (considering Sloop’s pic on the Morning Post), and now I am disappointed.

      • straffinrun

        Wait for the denoument.

      • Gustave Lytton

        If Momoko won’t go to the futon, the futon will go to Momoko?

  61. Idle Hands

    One thing that’s cracking me up about this is my work from home friends who say this is the end of the traditional office. I laugh at their naiviety. Can’t wait for the municipalities to catch onto this inconvenient budgetary fact. The speed of the ordinances of what constitutes a home office is going to be one of the most hilarious new cycles ever.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Commercial real estate is fucked.

      The sheer amount of now vacant restaurant space combined with unoccupied office space and what will probably be a total lack of demand over the next 18 months is going to crush it.

      • Idle Hands

        Oh I know, pretty much all my customers are land lords. They are lighting money on fire right now. To describe them as pissed off is probably an understatement.

    • Nephilium

      Several local cities here already started complaining that they’re losing their payroll taxes as people are working from home (on top of the crippling amount of unemployed).

      • Idle Hands

        oh nos they might have to make *audible gasp budget cuts.

      • Viking1865

        I’ve said it before, the sheer fucking disconnect from reality the politicians have is astounding to me. I’ve seen politicians lament “hiring freezes” and “compensation freezes” while we have people watching their lives work burn. That one county executive talking “I might have to cut 30% of county employees” as though every fucking business in the country isn’t dealing with the same thing.

        These fuckers literally think they should never ever have to suffer even the smallest amount, that the peasants should bear every fucking burden.

      • Idle Hands

        It’s fucking disgusting. The drones have honestly know idea what’s coming, and besides everyone should just work for the gov anyway.

      • Idle Hands

        I’m just happy I operate in VA for as heinous as coonman has been he hasn’t gone Hogan or Bowser level full retard.

      • Akira

        These fuckers literally think they should never ever have to suffer even the smallest amount, that the peasants should bear every fucking burden.

        See also: The last government shutdown when we were treated to media sob stories of Statue of Liberty security guards (making $24 an hour) who didn’t have enough saved up to survive for a few weeks.

      • Nephilium

        In fairness, that is one thing that DeWine did right. Some of the municipalities have just started laying off workers in the past couple weeks.

      • Gustave Lytton

        The prog legislature here is already talking of tapping the rainy day fund to keep from making any hard choices. And keeping in place recent tax increases and other changes to increase revenue. Well, increase before this happened. But they’re still keeping it. And whining about not having a sales tax.

    • robc

      There are a couple of busy models that will change – how much to be determined, but there will be change:

      1. Work from home will increase. It was already happening, but more businesses are going to question the business expense of a large office. While I think “hoteling” is stupid in the traditional office, it is much more reasonable when people only come into the office rarely.

      2. I for a while had suggested that the “new” model for groceries would be the “old” model updated: you don’t shop yourself, the goods are behind the counter. The new part is placing the order online and having your car filled for you (or home delivery). Stores can save money by not having display shelves and aisles, but warehouse storage. Produce and meat is where this doesn’t work, but that is fixed by the old model too…have separate produce and meat shops where you directly interact. But I don’t need interaction for prepackaged goods.

      3. Homeschooling will increase. I don’t know how much, but no one who already home schooled is going to stop because of Covid-19, but some people will start.

      • robc

        4. Online universities for core classes. I think people will shift some to an online model for the first 2 years of college,

        All of these were going to happen anyway, this just jump starts the process.

      • robc

        Hmmm…I wonder if I should expand that into an article, or if that post is enough. Thoughts?

      • Ownbestenemy

        I’d read it. I think through all this nonsense to highlight how an agile entrepreneur might capitalize on it would be interesting to explore.

      • Idle Hands

        I don’t think life is going to change that much. I honestly think we go back to normal pretty quick once this shit is lifted. You can’t operate a store front business with the guidelines they’ve laid out it’s impossible. I do think we are going to see a dramatic switch from a traditional office but the municipalites are going to scream and cry and do everything they can to prevent that from happening. Homeschooling will increase but I really don’t think the teachers unions are going to stomach missing the next school year further reinforcing how awful they are at their jobs and useless they really are to actual learning.

      • robc

        Oh, it will be marginal. But instead of moving x in that direction that it was moving anyway, it will move 3x or something. It will have another 100x to go to full implementation of the ideas, and then will never happen.

      • Idle Hands

        now new york it might be nearly instant, There is going to be a huge amount of business’s that leave yesterday.

      • Viking1865

        ” the teachers unions are going to stomach missing the next school year further reinforcing how awful they are at their jobs and useless they really are to actual learning.”

        If they cancel school for 2020-21 then how on Earth can they collect property taxes with a straight face?

      • Gustave Lytton

        The same way they do every year? Pay up or else.

      • Idle Hands

        just wait till the revenuer comes around to some of these strip mall owners. I can already here the laugher of a conversation that is going to be.

      • Viking1865

        Hmmm I think with the grocery store a pretty big part of the sales model is the impulse buy. I like food, I like to cook, and I’m always adding a new condiment or new snack to the cart to try it out. They don’t want to lose that, or the impulse buy of high margin items.

      • robc

        I agree, that will hold back the model, some, and those stores will always exist.

        But that doesnt mean that someone doesnt try to create a niche, the same way that warehouse clubs created a niche of lower cost buying in bulk. Walmart/Kroger/whoever is already doing the parking lot pickup model, but it doesn’t produce cost savings and has other issues (they don’t have good enough inventory control to allow you to get exactly what you order).

        If someone did a dedicated model of that, lowering costs with smaller store footprint, they could grab a subset of the market. I think that was partly Amazon’s goal with buying whole foods.

      • Gustave Lytton

        they don’t have good enough inventory control

        Grrr…. Kroger owner chain shows bread flour in stock at two locations. Both were totally cleaned out of flour entirely.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Or an employee “forgot” to stock it?

      • Gustave Lytton

        Maybe, I went back the following day after looking at their website. Still cleaned out. The first visit was just regular shopping.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Only reason I say that is because my neighbor works over night stocking shelves and asked me if I need anything just let him know. Turned that offer down.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I keep thinking that work from home jobs are a huge opportunity for rural areas. If tech workers start moving back out to rural areas to increase their purchasing power and access to good schools and a less stress free way of life, they could breath air back into them.

        I’ve tried to get my wife to move back to NW Minnesoda for years, but she refuses to leave her Korean buddies here. Even as frugal as she is, the prospect of having our purchasing power grow simply by moving isn’t enough to get her to move.

      • Tundra

        I’m out of here as soon as possible. The only downside of working from home in a rural area is shitty broadband.

      • robc

        Access to good schools?

        Good schools seem to be a suburban thing…urban and rural both tend to suck. At least in the southern states I have lived most of my life in.

      • UnCivilServant

        Suburbs have the sweet spot of engaged parents and concentrated funding. Rural schools are spread too thin, and city schools have apathetic parents.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        I published an article showing that the correlation between eighth-grade math scores and distance of state capitals from the Canadian border was .522, a respectable showing. By contrast, the correlation with per pupil expenditure was a derisory .203. I offered the policy proposal that states wishing to improve their schools should move closer to Canada.

        – Daniel Patrick Moynihan

      • robc

        Florida makes Spokane their new state capital.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I guess that determines how you define rural. I grew up in a town of about 5K. Our classes ranged from about 150-200 depending on the year.

        They seemed to do a pretty good job. Obviously I fell through the indoctrination cracks, but for the most part we all got a pretty good education.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        I graduated with 157 and will put my HS skills up against anyone.

        But the school was built by people and money from Akron who took over, the best thing that ever happened to that little hillbilly outpost. When the factory closed, they went right back to being the impoverished toothless idiots they were before.

      • robc

        150 per class in a town of 5k? That would be about 54% of population under age 18.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        have separate produce and meat shops where you directly interact.

        As a kid, I worked at a grocery store that was designed to look like a marketplace. It had a bunch of rooms for various “vendors” and a central area with a coffee shop and some attempt at a rough analogue to street vendors.

        I really think that model could work well with some updates. Warehouse section for all of the standard stuff, with a row of “shops” for the produce, meats, etc.

      • robc

        Sounds like my local Lowes (the grocery, not the hardware store). The best feature is the bar. Grab a pint on your way in, then go shopping with the glass in hand. Liquor stores were doing that in KY, but I had to move to SC to find it in a grocery.

  62. The Late P Brooks

    they’ll stop beating us as soon as we correct our behavior.

    Again, I say- they treat us like dogs because we let them.

  63. The Late P Brooks

    Gentoo?

    I have been running elementary linux on that laptop for years, and have been quite happy. Pretty much the only thing I do computerwise is come here. That, and news.

  64. The Late P Brooks

    Fucking windows won’t even let me reset the clock.

  65. Pope Jimbo

    Uffda. I think I need to spend some of this cower time switching completely over to linux. Windows 10 did something behind the scenes yesterday that was making a bunch of stuff on my laptop wonky. Looks like it decided I hadn’t updated for too long and did one anyhow.

    That was bad, but then when I rebooted to see if that would help, a new screen came up even before the login screen that was touting how much better Windows 10 would be if I only linked it to my phone and a MS email account. What the fuck! If I wanted to live in a walled garden, I’d go buy an Apple (and I would have last time around except they are fucking up their products too).

    I miss the good old days when your OS just ran stuff you wanted to install on your machine.

    • Count Potato

      Fuck Catalina, but Mojave is still good.

      • Pope Jimbo

        It wasn’t even Catalina that made me give up on Apple. It was the fact that they are soldering in memory and hard drives in the macbook pros. I’m guessing so that you can’t upgrade your own memory or hard drive anymore. Instead you have to pay Apple’s exorbitant rates to upgrade those when you buy.

        Fuck that.

      • Tundra

        My MacBook Air is a 2014 build. The battery was going bad so I replaced it for $80. This is the best laptop I’ve ever owned.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I’ve got a 2008 17″ macbook pro that still runs OK. And you know what? Every time I close the lid it goes to sleep and every time I open it, it comes back to life again!!!!!

        Never had a windows laptop that didn’t have sleep/wake issues after a couple years. Always a crapshoot as to whether it will actually come back to life, or it will just sit there and make you power cycle it.

    • UnCivilServant

      Friend Computer is not your machine, citizen.

    • Akira

      I run Ubuntu Linux, but I don’t actually know how to use it very well. But all I really do on the computer is use the Internet, so as long as my web browser works I’m good.

      Whenever something is slightly wrong, I have to spend hours searching Stack Overflow for answers and meticulously copying shit into my command line in the hopes that it fixes it.

    • Don Escaped Australians

      That’s bad, but the scale of government makes it possible.

      If balanced-budget Republicans weren’t complete frauds, this would be much less possible.

      • juris imprudent

        If the Republicans had any integrity, they’d be tearing the FBI apart right now. Alas we have little to fear about integrity and political parties.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        I wouldn’t do that if I were you, my friend! * winks and taps manila folder on his generous midsection *

        / J.E.H

      • creech

        Special prosecutor, Senate Select Committee, defendants pleading the 5th – do it up right now or lose the election. Why can’t Republicans play hardball?

    • Hyperion

      I think most people realized it was a coup attempt from the beginning. One they are still attempting, and will continue for the next 4 years if Trump remains in the Whitehouse, and for however long a Republican is in the Whitehouse.

      Those people want power and the end justifies the means, no matter what the means are. Kill half the population? Sure, it had to be done!

    • Fatty Bolger

      Man, Rosenstein is such a weasel.

  66. The Late P Brooks

    More WTF

    A senior CDC official confirmed to CNN Wednesday night that it was clear that the White House was not going to implement their 17-page draft recommendation for reopening America — after it asked for it. The White House’s decision to not use the guidance was first reported by The Associated Press.
    “We are used to dealing with a White House that asks for things and then chaos ensues. A team of people at the CDC spent innumerable hours in response to an ask from Debbie Birx,” said the source.
    “The 17-page report represents an ask from the White House Task Force to come up with these recommendations. That’s our role. To put together this guidance.”
    A task force official told CNN that Trump’s guidelines announced in mid-April for reopening the country “made clear that each state should open up in a safe and responsible way based on the data and response efforts in those individual states.”
    An administration official told CNN that CDC leadership had not seen the draft document before it was leaked, and there were two concerns when it reached the task force. It was “overly prescriptive” because “guidance in rural Tennessee shouldn’t be the same guidance for urban New York City,” and the recommendations in the document did not fit the “phases” that had already been outlined by the task force.

    It was produced by the CDC, but the CDC “leadership” didn’t even get to see it before it was leaked to the press so they could do a GOTCHA on President Cartoon Villain?

    What a fucking clown show.

    • Gustave Lytton

      And what the staff delivered didn’t comport with what the task force/CDC leadership outlined was to be done. If my boss told me to come up with a plan to implement specific goals and I told him to take a hike, I’m doing it my way without a good reason AND went around him, I’d be looking for a new job PDQ.

    • invisible finger

      “That’s our role. To put together this guidance.”

      CDC doesn’t seem to understand the definition of the word “guidance” or purposely lies and expects it to be “gun-enforced, executive-branch law”.

    • Hyperion

      The truth is that the plan did not include the word ‘gulags’, so the CDC withdrew that plan and asked Trump to wait for an indefinite amount of time so they could work in the gulags in a way that the people will be supportive of. Recommendations were things like changing the word gulag to ‘4 star resort’.

  67. The Late P Brooks

    I for a while had suggested that the “new” model for groceries would be the “old” model updated: you don’t shop yourself, the goods are behind the counter.

    I have been thinking about that, too. I think there maybe a noticeable swing to that model, but there have to be more people than I who need to wander the aisle.

    • Fatty Bolger
      • Bill Door

        Nice.

  68. The Late P Brooks

    Well in that case….

    New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and NYPD Commissioner Dermot Shea stated outright this week that people are not permitted to gather for protests in public due to the coronavirus pandemic.

    The city leaders pointed to the need to maintain social distancing in order to prevent greater spread of COVID-19, stating that this takes precedence over people’s rights to exercise their First Amendment rights of free speech and assembly.

    “You’re talking about some of the values we hold in the highest regard in this country and certainly in this city, the right for people to gather, the right to free speech and the right to protest,” Shea said during a Monday press briefing. “But now comes the bad news, we’re in a pandemic and executive orders have been issued, these are laws that have been passed down through executive order to keep people alive, while we greatly, greatly respect the right of people to protest, there should not be protests taking place in the middle of a pandemic by gathering outside and putting people at risk.”

    I’m beginning to want to see violence.

  69. Chipwooder

    CNBC isn’t even trying at this point.

    CNBC
    @CNBC
    China gets top score as citizens rank their governments’ response to the coronavirus outbreak

    The majority of citizens feel dissatisfied with their leaders’ response to the coronavirus outbreak, according to a new report, as countries across the globe have been left grappling with the fallout…
    cnbc.com
    11:46 PM · May 6, 2020

    Why could that be? Quite a mystery!

    • Hyperion

      I bet North Korea can top them. I wonder why that is too?

    • Hyperion

      “Quite a mystery!”

      It’s just US propaganda from the Trump admin that when people get disappeared, they go to some sort of bad place. When in reality, they just get an all expensive paid vacation at a luxury resort.

      • mindyourbusiness

        They’re all at an enormous Swiss clinic with Elvis.

  70. Suthenboy

    Looking over the stories linked to here I think our country is turning into a tinderbox.

    Congratulations authoritarian assholes. It’s not gonna turn out like you think it will.

    • PieInTheSky

      maybe how it turns out is a feature not a bug.

      • Suthenboy

        That is a hell of a gamble to take but in the end I dont they will give us a choice.
        They are trashing the wealthiest, freest, happiest nation in the history of the world for the sake of their personal wealth and aggrandizement. They truly are looters.

      • Hyperion

        “That is a hell of a gamble to take”

        Like we have a choice. No way we survive a few more months of badorangeman, let alone 4 more years.

      • Hyperion

        I don’t think you were here late last night, so you probably didn’t see the link about how CA is going to forcefully test everyone and if anyone tests positive, they’re going to be separated from their family and quarantined.

        It’s about to get real ugly.

      • Suthenboy

        I just saw that link above.

  71. Chipwooder

    Now that even the NY Times is reporting that the majority of WuFlu cases around the country were spread by people traveling from NY, any chance the hero-worship of Cuomo gets dialed down?

    ……naaaaah

    • Hyperion

      Build the wall, make Cuomo pay for it!

      • kinnath

        Building a wall around urban areas is my schtick.

      • Suthenboy

        +1 Snake Plissken

      • Chipwooder

        And yet, when Rhode Island tried to prevent New Yorkers from entering, Cuomo screeched that it was unconsitutional and discriminatory.