You can’t go home again links of rando: Food edition

by | May 3, 2020 | Daily Links, Food & Drink, Musings | 421 comments

Don’t fall prey to the siren song of nostalgia.

Just. Don’t.

I did. And do. And I am an addict and I need a 12-step group.

Disclaimer: I have the palate sophistication of a toddler, so keep that in mind.

Spaghettios with franks. Awesome treat when mom and dad went out on a very rare date and we had a babysitter. Now…blurgh.

Mom’s cooking. Well, her recipes, the things from my childhood I loved.

Weirdly, some of the Christmas cookies don’t taste as good as the store bakery versions (e.g., “goodie cookies,” aka Russian tea cakes/Mexican wedding cakes). At the time, they were vastly better than anything you could buy off the shelves and grocery stores didn’t have bakeries then. I have to assume that with the rise of the store bakery and their longevity, they just got better at baking. I fix some of the bland with different extracts.

That very tiny hamlet Gma and Gpa lived in where I used to go visit and thought was magical but it was really just a run-down shack in a run-down former mining town and marginal rail hub. The motel in the college town nearby was a treat, though, when we got to stay there. Midcentury modern. Two levels. Each door a different color. A kidney-shaped pool. And then there was the favorite restaurant, which was also a treat and the urban legend of its competing sister restaurant (Mary’s! No, Annie’s! No, Mary’s! Let’s fight!) Their claim to fame (besides the fried chicken) is their onion rings and their spaghetti (little more than ketchup and butter) and their potato salad is German. But what do you expect from a bunch of German immigrants? And oh, the tales of nationalism; my grandmother was not allowed to date Germans, EYEtalians, or Polacks. That left few “real” Europeans. Strangely, her people were Huguenots via Kentucky coal mines, but they didn’t know they were Huguenots; they came from somewhere very near Butcher Holler (six degrees and all that).

Now? Well, the motel’s gone marginally upscale and painted the doors a nice red. The Googie sign is gone and midcentury lobby is hidden behind a plain-Jane glamour and decorated in little ol’ country woman. The little hamlet is now half the size (pop. 234) and a meth haven. And the local chicken place, whose food I loved as a kid, is also bland and maybe even trending to crappy.

What still works for me?

Spritz cookies, which is just shortbread with an egg. I actually have a vintage cookie press just like my mom’s, only mine was NOS (new old stock) and has all the pieces hers doesn’t. In order to keep them from being blah like the Russian tea cakes/Mexican wedding cakes/goodie cookies, I throw different extracts in, peppermint, orange (not lemon; lemon’s for summer), almond. Stuff like that. But hey, you just can’t go wrong when butter is involved, with a little flour and sugar for garnish.

Creamed chicken, which is simply butter-and-sour-cream-on-baked-potatoes goodness. Nothing special about it. It was an expensive dish back then because sour cream was expensive and came in small cartons. In our house, it was a treat. I would request this about every other birthday.

Beef stroganoff, which I requested this on alternating birthdays with creamed chicken, which is also an expensive dish, but so is Hamburger Helper* when you eat it in quantities we do. XY loves this. This and my not-marinara spaghetti sauce.

Meatloaf, a poor woman’s steak tartare. I haven’t made meatloaf in a while, but last time I noted that it’s the Worcestershire sauce that makes it. Come to think of it, XY has been asking for it. That’s one of his charms, XY, is his demanding I cook for him. There’s something deeply satisfying about that, that he actually does value me for something.

Lemon sugar cookies. That’s new to me, not to Mom. Because lemons. And summer. And there is no such thing as too much lemon.

Speaking of lemons: 1 c bottled lemon juice, 1 c sugar, 6 c water. Lemonade, boom, done.

*The comment that tore a hole in a long-time, but already fraying friendship.

Next time: Toys and games

Older but no wiser.

We are torn between nostalgia for the familiar
and an urge for the foreign and strange.
As often as not, we are homesick most
for the places we have never known.

About The Author

Mojeaux

Mojeaux

Aspiring odalisque.

421 Comments

  1. Winston

    Don’t fall prey to the siren song of nostalgia.

    Except when it comes to complaining about Coronavirus lockdowns or the Patriot Act.

    • hayeksplosives

      Someday, future generations will ask us about COVID19.

      The discussion will be about:

      1) How it was much ado about nothing but cost trillions.

      2) How it was when the American experiment collapsed as the golden goose was slain by the takers.

      Or

      3 How sleepy Americans were roused once again to fight for freedom.

      I can’t countenance option 4).

      • C. Anacreon

        4) When the country finally achieved a single position for all media after all alternative viewpoint tv, radio and internet sites were declared to be dangerously spreading misinformation. The First Amendment was conclusively declared to not apply to speech that could be considered hateful, or which was outside the prevailing government-approved popular opinion. The few remaining dissenters were shamed into compliance or disappeared from public view. This, my grandchildren, was when we reached utopia. Now finish your gruel ration and get ready for evening allegiance chants.

      • Count Potato

        I still about that YouTube taking down that video with the two doctors from Bakersfield. Since when do doctors have to agree with each other?

      • C. Anacreon

        Agreed. That was the silencing that has made me concerned for the future. Those docs made a reasonable case and it should have been part of the debate. Instead they had their video deleted and national medical organizations said they were greedy liars just trying to get business for their Urgent Care facilities. Yikes.

  2. hayeksplosives

    Thanks, Mo. I think I gained weight just reading that.

    • Mojeaux

      Woo hoo! My work here is done.

      *dusts hands*

  3. DEG

    I like the old time picture of Mulberry, KS.

    Beef Stroganoff is great. That lemon sugar cookie recipe looks good.

    • Mojeaux

      Thanks!

      When I was small, my grandfather tried to set up a pool hall. They called it “the store.”

    • Nephilium

      Iced tea is easy to make. I go through about half a gallon a day, no mix needed. Just black tea bags.

      • Incentives Matter

        Perfect balance of high-quality tea, lemon and sugar. I’ve never tasted better, after a lifetime of searching.

      • Nephilium

        I drink unsweetened iced tea, the sweetened stuff is always too sweet for my tastes.

      • Chafed

        And moves you away from being GlibFit.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Sun tea is the best iced tea. Glass dispenser, giant wad of cheapo mint or black teabags, set it on the driveway on a sunny day. In the evening toss it in the fridge. Add a slice or three of citrus if you’re so inclined.

      • Nephilium

        You just want people to die!

        I’ve got a Takeya pitcher that I use to make my iced tea in. I’m switching it up between just doing a cold extract and doing boiling water, letting it steep, and filling the pitcher with ice.

  4. Nephilium

    My old school comfort food is Tuna Noodle Casserole. Objectively, it’s not that good, and is terrible on calories. But that’s one of the things that got made almost every other weekend during Lent when I was a kid, and even my mom couldn’t mess it up that much.

    Speaking of lemon cookies this is the recipe I used for some of the cookies I sent you.

  5. Animal

    Grilled cheese sandwiches, sourdough bread, Velveeta, fried in bacon grease.

    That’s how my Mom made them, so it’s obviously correct. Tastes like love.

    • juris imprudent

      The Velveeta part hurts, but sourdough and bacon grease. Mmmmmm.

      • Incentives Matter

        Pretty much identical to First Nations fry-bread (minus the Velveeta, natch).

      • juris imprudent

        We had “Indian tacos” last year (for the first time) after Burning Man as we passed thru the reservation. Damn tasty.

    • SweatingGin

      Velveeta is the only correct cheese for grilled cheese, just like cheeseburgers.

      • The Hyperbole

        This may just be the single most incorrect opinion ever expressed on this site, and that’s saying something. Congratulations.

      • Ted S.

        This may just be the single most incorrect opinion ever expressed on this site

        Other than all the opinions Hyperbole expressed, of course. :-p

      • Spudalicious

        Coming from Hype, that is a stunning statement.

  6. Winston

    So Amash is talking about “bringing people together”. With all his talk about virtue and institutions he sounds like a statist fuck.

    • Winston

      Virtue brings to mind the Reign of Terror and all the talk about institutions glosses over the importance of values. People won’t stand up for rights that they do not believe in. And who are these virtuous people who will be running these institutions? Canadians now believe that gun rights are an anachronism in our modern world so our institutions aren’t going to protect us. Not to mention how everyone is allowing the government to shut them down due to coronavirus

    • Winston

      And then there is the whole “educated virtuous pragmatic clearheaded people will obviously agree with me on pretty everything now and forever” stuff.

  7. Gustave Lytton

    Holy crap! Clicked on the cookie press link and… omg so that’s that is! I remember now that my mom had one of those. Never used it and didn’t know what it was. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

  8. westernsloper

    my grandmother was not allowed to date Germans, EYEtalians, or Polacks

    Always a solid rule. Don’t forget the No Irish!

  9. hayeksplosives

    I’d have made bierox for comfort food today but I am out or flour and couldn’t be arsed to go get some.

    (Bierox are a bread stuffed with meat. Lots of latitude. Cabbage, potato, onion, sausage, with nutmeg etc, wrapped in a yeast dough and baked. Single servings.)

    • Incentives Matter

      Yumptious.

    • westernsloper

      I smoked a batch of chicken thighs on the weber and made a stock with a thigh, onion, a couple guajillo chilis, random spices and white wine. It is all sorting itself out in the crock pot on warm. Baked chicken tacos tonight.

  10. Q Continuum

    My maternal relatives are cattle ranchers so we had beef, beef, beef. Everything but the moo (or the brain, don’t feel like getting CJD).

    I liked beef liver deep fried in bacon fat.

    • DEG

      I had sheep’s liver in Vienna during my last trip to Vienna. It was… different.

    • Gender Traitor

      Fun fact: Fried brain sammiches were a thing for a long time in St. Louis. Reportedly, a favorite setup for a spoof yearbook photo was to stand in front of this sign and caption it, “Somebody loan me a quarter?”

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I’d happily give one a try if it wasn’t for the prion diseases. No food’s worth that risk though.

  11. Suthenboy

    My parent’s generation is eaten up with the diabetes. Their eating habits are horrible.
    In one generation we went from generations deprived of carbohydrates to one drowning in them.
    Food pyramid, my ass.

    • Winston

      Thank you George McGovern.

    • hayeksplosives

      Hey, Suthen, now that we know Govt food pyramid was a terrible idea that has killed millions and disabled more, we can sue the government over the pyramid and school lunches, right?

      I mean, we have a case, right?!?

      (Facepalm)

      • Heroic Mulatto

        It was never about your health.

        Who created the US Food Pyramid? The USDA.

        The purpose of the Dept. of Agriculture has nothing to do with the nutrition or health of the citizenry. Its purpose is to advance the interests of America’s farmers and ranchers.

        The Food Pyramid was composed with solely those interests in mind.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I heard an older Tom Woods (I think) podcast to that effect. One of the stakeholders, I think it was a consortium of grain farmers, complained that there weren’t enough grain based servings in the food pyramid and, what do you know, they added some in.

      • Hyperion

        The food pyramid, is, always was pure horseshit. HM is right on this, it’s all about being the propaganda wing of the food industry, it has nothing to do with health.

      • Suthenboy

        I clearly dont understand the food business well enough. It puzzles me why this is the case. A farmer grows stuff. Hell I grew up on a farm…a small one. You grow what you need. Why grow 10x the carbs that the planet can eat when we can simply grow what we need?
        Is corn somehow more profitable than oats or pigs or bell peppers?
        One year I drove for two hours and there was nothing to see but corn. The next year on the same route it was nothing but sugar.
        (you hear a lot about Iowa fields….you should see the river valleys in Louisiana)

      • Jarflax

        We like to blame the government for things, but people eat what tastes good to them. I don’t think the food pyramid gave us pizza and donuts. i think the people who give us pizza and donuts gave us the food pyramid to make us happier as we ate them. The issue is self discipline, and I say that as a guy who has put back on almost all of the weight I lost (and I am talking well over 100 lbs). It isn’t some magic curse of sugar or starch. You can eat any foods and stay in shape. You just need to exercise discipline. I didn’t get fat eating a donut. I got fat eating a box of donuts.

      • Shirley Knott

        I remember when the one pound bags of M&Ms first appeared. Oh, look, the single serving size!

      • Heroic Mulatto

        Is corn somehow more profitable than oats or pigs or bell peppers

        Yes, by a great deal thanks to government ethanol subsidies and the demand to grow corn for HFCS as opposed to using foreign sugar cane.

        That’s also why we are the largest producer of soybeans even though soy isn’t a big part of our diet.

      • Count Potato

        “Is corn somehow more profitable than oats or pigs or bell peppers?”

        Yes, because subsidies and market distortion.

    • Hyperion

      I don’t think people were deprived of carbs. There were potatoes, corn, bread, rice and other carbs for a very long time. What there wasn’t was processed sugars, sodas, and TV dinners with long lists of chemicals that you can’t even pronounce.

      Most people did not eat like Kings like we do now, until very recently, I mean less than 100 years. Most people had to work their fucking asses off every damn day to get enough to eat. So you had a combination of caloric restriction as well as a lot of excercise to get enough to eat. There wasn’t anyone sitting on their ass all day at their computer or in front a TV and having enough food delivered right to the door to consume thousand of calories in calorie rich food every day. Right there is the problem.

      • juris imprudent

        It’s probably arguable that there was a great deal more physical labor within the workforce prior to the 70s. We may have changed our work far more than our diet.

      • Hyperion

        We didn’t change our diet that much since then, people were already eating like Kings by the 70s, along with tons of highly processed foods. But we have been changed by the fact that a very large percentage of our population are sedentary most of the time.

        I blame the medical industry as well, because almost no doctor will tell you that diet and exercise is important. If you have a health issue, the first thing they want to do is prescribe drugs.

        I had a doctor, the guy is retired now, but he’s among the most honest that I’ve known. He told me ‘sure diet and exercise will prevent a lot of modern diseases, especially the most prevalent ones like diabetes and heart disease. But it doesn’t really matter, we need the drugs. If I tell my patients to exercise and practice calorie restriction and eat healthy food, it’s a waste of time. 90% or more will ignore that, so we need the drugs.

        I lost 60 lbs in around 90 days just by calorie restriction and exercise, a LOT of walking. I’ve gained about 20 of it back by being lazy. Damn, I really felt good back then, I need to get back to that.

      • Jarflax

        I blame the medical industry as well, because almost no doctor will tell you that diet and exercise is important. If you have a health issue, the first thing they want to do is prescribe drugs.

        Bullshit. I mean bullshit worthy of CNN. You can’t go to a doctor being even slightly over weight without instantly triggering a lecture. I have been lectured by dentists for God’s sake.

      • Hyperion

        It’s not bullshit. They might tell you that, but they’ll then drop it. The only thing important is that you take some drugs they want to prescribe you. And it you don’t, they’ll get angry. They won’t care if you follow their diet and exercise tips, and they’re probably wrong anyway. They’ll also tell you that vitamins and supplements do not work, only drugs. They know nothing about diet and nutrition or exercise because they are not trained in that. They’re trained to diagnose problems and prescribe drugs. That’s it.

      • Jarflax

        Beyond telling you to lose weight what do you want from them? I am going to piss off our fitness gurus here but losing weight and improving fitness is not rocket science. You don’t need a doctor to tell you move more/eat less.

      • juris imprudent

        But you do need a doctor to get prescriptions. Voila!

        So what do most consumers want from their medical provider?

      • Hyperion

        “Beyond telling you to lose weight what do you want from them?”

        I try to stay the fuck away from them as much as possible. It’s a business and their business it to sell drugs and surgeries, not to make you healthy. If we were all healthy, they’d have to find something else to do. But the medical industry is a multi-trillion dollar industry and their job is not to make you healthy, it’s to make money. And the US pharm industry is the biggest legal drug cartel on the planet. The FDA is their guys who will send Guido and Bruno down to break your knees if you try to horn in on their territory or dare to do a startup to compete with your people.

      • Hyperion

        “Beyond telling you to lose weight what do you want from them?”

        I try to stay the fuck away from them as much as possible. It’s a business and their business is to sell drugs and surgeries, not to make you healthy. If we were all healthy, they’d have to find something else to do. But the medical industry is a multi-trillion dollar industry and their job is not to make you healthy, it’s to make money. And the US pharm industry is the biggest legal drug cartel on the planet. The FDA is their guys who will send Guido and Bruno down to break your knees if you try to horn in on their territory or dare to do a startup to compete with your people.

      • Suthenboy

        In trying to press young men into service for WWI the army found that an unacceptably high number of young men were unfit for service due to being underweight, underdeveloped and weak due to a lack of carbohydrates in their diet. My knowledge is spotty on the subject but this had been a problem for a long time….probably since antiquity. That is how Kellog made his money on corn flakes…he touted them as carbohydrates for a deprived population.

        It wasn’t until industrial farming really got cranked up that we had a wealth of food…especially carbohydrates. The shift from family farms to giant industrial farms was deliberately engineered to solve that problem.

        I am sure there is someone around here with more complete knowledge on the subject than I. have.

      • Hyperion

        I’m not doubting that here were many people not getting enough food 100 years or more ago. Then we went from people not getting enough food to getting too much, and we did it in a every short amount of time from a historical perspective.

      • Jarflax

        Rich people historically got fat. Hence fat cats. We made everyone rich. Every good thing has a downside.

      • Count Potato

        The short answer is that the power of fossil fuels was harnessed to grow food.

      • pistoffnick

        I…ahh…like spicy food.

      • Seguin

        Ironic. The last thing I want to touch after a bag of flaming hot cheetos is my dick.

      • Ozymandias

        Kellogg was a hardcore 7th Day Adventist and his disciples hijacked our diets and have been beating the drum ever since. Yes, it also helped immensely that their religious prescription for diet also dovetailed nicely with other powerful interests (agri-farming) – and the fact that corn was plentiful and could be turned into HFCS. Coca Cola was originally putting cocaine in your soda pop and when that got yanked, they went to HFCS. Berkshire Hathaway is the largest single shareholder of Coke, also gets Ag subsidies, and owns DaVita, a kidney dialysis company. They’ve got you covered cradle to grave, but Buffet is the “right kind” of billionaire.

  12. Count Potato

    “GATORADE SUBSTITUTE

    1 liter water
    1/4 tsp (minimum) Lite Salt (Lite Salt is half sodium, half potassium)
    5 Tbsp equivalent of sweetener
    1/2 tsp of Kool-aid powder”

    I’m pretty sure that the oddest recipe I’ve ever seen.

      • DEG

        Nuun is good.

      • Nephilium

        Yep. Nice low calorie exercise drink.

      • Nephilium

        I don’t believe they have a flavorless one. At that point, you’d be better off just going with salt tablets.

    • Hyperion

      “1/4 tsp (minimum) Lite Salt (Lite Salt is half sodium, half potassium)”

      Potato wants people do die! You can’t eat bathsalts!

      JK, that’s interesting…

    • Incentives Matter

      I would’ve said “totally renewable resource,” but whatevs.

      • Q Continuum

        Dammit dammit dammit.

        That’s what I meant to say.

        SHAME

    • Spudalicious

      6 and 29.

    • DEG

      #6 is cute.

      #8’s shoulder made me think she is GlibFit. I checked her gallery. Yes. Yes she is. I’ll take her along with #6.

    • l0b0t

      OMG! Numbah 17 now, 17 forevah! Also, #30 is nice as well.

  13. AlmightyJB

    We mostly ate box Mac n’ cheese which my mom bought in bulk. Spaghetto’s were way out of out price range. Occasionally we might get dry meatloaf with lots of bread filler or the thinnest chili you can possibly imagine. Nothing special spaghetti or overcooked pork chops for a special occasion. For cookies it was either sugar cookies or sugared cookies. We only bought powered milk. I remember the first time I had real milk. I said what is this. I was told it was milk. No, milk is horrible, this is wonderful. I thought it was nector from the Gods.

    • Suthenboy

      Brother? Is that you?

      *Since we cultivated several acres we also had a wealth of fresh vegetables, we had beef, pork and chicken. We even had duck and goose. The majority of milk was powdered but we did have fresh milk but the two cows didnt produce enough that we could just drink the stuff…it was used for cooking.

      • AlmightyJB

        There is definitely something wrong when certain plants are illegal but powdered milk is not:)

  14. westernsloper

    Reading your cookie recipes and the last threads on sweets and snacks I have to admit I have been craving cookies lately. I rarely do. I am like some of the others, I don’t buy them because I will eat them. Although reading the cheesecake recipe kind of makes me hate you right now. I really want some cheesecake tonight.

    • Mojeaux

      kind of makes me hate you right now.

      Happy to help! ?

  15. Incentives Matter

    Dinner tonight:

    Left-over striploin steak sliced into matchsticks, stir-fried with thinly-shredded Savoy cabbage and glass noodles in oyster or black bean sauce (or, in a pinch, Kikkoman’s Teriyaki). Gonna go with the oyster, I think. Served up in bowls and finished with roasted sesame seeds sprinkled on top.

    The spousal unit’s gonna have a bath first, and I’ll deliver the wine to her, properly chilled, of course.

    • pistoffnick

      I think I see the direction this is going!

    • juris imprudent

      Tonight’s dinner at chez imprudence was potato gnocchi with portobello mushrooms, onion, garlic, asparagus and diced pancetta (deglazed with marsala). With a drizzle of extra-virgin olive oil and parmesan-romano.

      • l0b0t

        I ate damn near my body weight in shrimp and chicken soft tacos and steak/shrimp/chicken sincronizadas from Yummy Taco, a Chinese run chain that provides the best Tex-Mex fast food in all of NYC. Just finished a growler of Teapot Stout from our local brewery and am about to start the Bourbon and fire up Borderlands 3 for a lazy night off.

    • pistoffnick

      We had French Toast, French scrambled eggs, sausage and hash browns.

      My middle daughter and I had a hash brown cooking contest. She likes to constantly move the hash browns so they all get browned. I like browned on the outside and creamy on the inside. She won because mine were slightly under cooked. It was the first time she has offered to cook ever.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Taiwan is the good China. I’d be fine with supplying them with nukes.

    • DEG

      Yes.

    • Hyperion

      “strong indignation”

      Aww, well then, Pooh Bear, we take it back. Not really, go fuck yourself with a chainsaw.

  16. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    1 c bottled lemon juice

    Maybe I’m buying the wrong stuff, but I can never get bottled lemon juice to taste good in lemonade. Fresh lemon tastes so different.

    Honestly, same thing goes for lemon-forward cooking. Lemon on whitefish? Go fresh. Lemon in a lemon cake? Fresh. Just need the acidity? Bottled.

    • Incentives Matter

      Need it to taste like lemon but with no acidity? Zest the outer skin.

      • Shirley Knott

        Any lemon juice drink is improved by soaking the zest in the juice for an hour or so before use.

      • Count Potato

        Some bottled lemon juice has lemon oil in it.

    • Suthenboy

      I have a Meyer’s lemon tree. Every few years it makes a truck load of the sweetest lemons I have ever tasted. The lemonade made from them is incredible. I will squeeze a couple hundred of them and freeze the juice.
      Most years it just makes a hand full.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Watching the news. How in the everloving fuck can so many people engage in such massive willful self-deception?

    “You can’t do that. You’re all gonna die!”

    STFU.

  18. Grosspatzer

    Nuyorican heaven: red rice and beans, 5 days a week. Usually with chicken cooked in the red sauce, occasionally pork chops. Abuela’s sauce recipe is lost forever (never written down), key ingredient IIRC was olives stuffed with pimientos. Spaghetti with Ragu on Wednesdays because Prince Spaghetti day – my Italian wife cringes in horror at this – and beef once a week. Usually 1/4 of a Florida avocado, salted, as appetizer. Those were the days.

    • Incentives Matter

      Wut?

    • Grosspatzer

      WTF? Critical data needed to help develop effective treatments, to be sure. I am fortunate indeed to be represented by such an outstanding legislator. Most of my neighbors likely voted for this genius. Just shoot me.

      • hayeksplosives

        Here’s all the proof we need that college, especially tax payer funded and subsidized, is not for everyone.

        All the PhDs in psychology aren’t going to turn these researchers into net contributors.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        I don’t see why we should blame psychologists for something said by a state legislator.

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        She did start an HOA….much worse than any Ph.D/researcher title she may or may not have.

    • Jarflax

      I wonder if intelligent life will ever evolve? It seems like it would be a good thing.

    • AlmightyJB

      Love ribeye.

    • Sean

      Rockin’ ?

    • DEG

      Nice

    • westernsloper

      Nice

  19. AlmightyJB

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
    – C. S. Lewis

    • hayeksplosives

      Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes not divine, but demonic.

      (Pope Benedict-XVI, Truth And Tolerance: Christian Belief And World Religions)

      True believers are the worst, certain that they are backed up by “the right side of history.”

  20. Gender Traitor

    Beef Stroganoff for Dummies: Heat up Dinty Moore Beef Stew. Turn off heat and stir in a bunch of sour cream. (Mr. GT doesn’t like mushrooms, so we skip that part.) While heating stew, cook up a mess of extra-wide egg noodles. Dump stew on top of Serve stew/sour cream mixture over noodles. #NotAFoodie

    (We have not had this for quite a while since we’ve been trying to reduce carb consumption, but it was a favorite late-in-the-work-week, feeling-too-lazy-to-cook dinner.)

    • Incentives Matter

      This doesn’t sound bad, actually. Unfortunately, I’ve never found any canned beef stew in Canada that wasn’t approaching “vile” on the scale of Execrable Delicious.

      • Incentives Matter

        Ahem.

        “Execrable to Delicious.”

    • pistoffnick

      Venison Stroganoff is what I cook every year for the first night of Deer Camp. I ladle it over spaghetti squash for me to lower the carbs. The rest of the guys like it over egg noodles.

      • Gender Traitor

        Good idea! IIRC from the few times I fixed spaghetti squash years ago, it’s easily nuked up in the microwave. One less pot! Thanks!

    • DrOtto

      Substitute the noodles with chickpea pasta. My youngest hasn’t detected the difference yet, and it’s loaded with protein.

      • Gender Traitor

        Another good idea! I like chickpeas. I’ll have to see if my grocery carries the pasta.

      • Incentives Matter

        I found my chickpea rotini at Costco, but since I’m in Canuckistan, you probably have different stuff in the U.S. stores (and I wouldn’t be surprised if there were regional differences, too).

      • DrOtto

        If you have a Sprouts near you, they carry it.

  21. DenverJ

    Well, almost 530. Reckon I’ll have me a drink.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    Jesus on a diamond encrusted pogo stick. These people would form an orderly line for the gas chamber. Take a number for faster service.

    • hayeksplosives

      Who in particular?

      • DenverJ

        “Whom”

      • Gender Traitor

        Nah, “who” is correct in reference to “These people,” the subject of the sentence. /pedant to the pedant

      • DenverJ

        I have no idea. It’s one of the few rules I never learned, because who uses whom anymore? I was just having fun 😉

      • C. Anacreon

        Perhaps the 80+% of Californians in today’s LA Times poll who say it’s too soon to start lifting the lockdown?
        Baaaaaaaaad idea to these sheep.

      • Hyperion

        Sure, and 97% of scientists agree with that poll.

    • DenverJ

      Yeah, those goals posts are moving at damn near relativistic speeds.

  23. Winston

    I think it is safe to say that coronavirus has revealed that the entire post-Cold War “liberal” globalization edifice of modernity is nothing but a pack of lies. Free Trade and Open Borders were the most important things until suddenly they weren’t. Human rights are important until people got sick. Things were getting better until suddenly it got worse.

    So what will replace this paradigm? Is this the kick in the pants that Gillespie thinks libertarians needed at the beginning of this year? Or will it lead to communism? Or fascism?

    • Suthenboy

      Lead to fascism? I think we are full blown fascist now.

      You do realize that the list of wants the socialists came out with 100 years ago, they have gotten. The govt picks winners and losers, dictates through regulation how companies can operate…etc.
      We already have fascism

    • DenverJ

      At least she appears to have a bit small upper deck. Also, why doesn’t she just trip them?

      • DenverJ

        *not small

    • Jarflax

      I find myself wishing people ill. I spent years trying not to do that, but 2020 is making me want people to get what they deserve.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Athens very concept of manspreading is silly. We have balls, damnit, and I’m not going to crush them just because sitting with my legs a bit apart offends some broad’s sensibilities.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Athens? WTF Apple spellcheck?

      • Count Potato

        This is Sparta!

    • hayeksplosives

      I moved my picnic table (tall glass top with umbrella and 4 chairs with a nice rocking motion) from where it was just kinda taking up space on the patio.

      I put it over in a side corner or the yard, and it has given me a new vantage point to view the yard and beyond. Mount Palomar is in easy view.

      Nice to mix it up a little just by moving furniture.

    • Hyperion

      Ever since they started this shit, I manspread on purpose every time I get a chance. Every meeting at work now, I’ll do it. Not sure if I did it before, but there is zero chance of me not doing it now, forever.

    • C. Anacreon

      When she jogs past, people would often make the old car horn “ah-ooog-ah!” sound. She was enjoying social distancing because she couldn’t hear the catcalls. But the patriarchy unfortunately intervened once again.

    • DEG

      He said that?

      /reads article

      Fuck. Is the Sun still rising in the East?

  24. l0b0t

    I almost threw a tantrum at the grocery store. My store (the one at which I work) and our store (the one right by our house, where we usually shop) have seemingly given up on the ChiComPox restrictions. The one-way and social distance markings are still on the floor but are not enforced. Today, our store was doing the whole 1 customer leaves another can enter, so I went to Five Towns, Lawn Guyland as the Yummy Taco franchise has reopened. The fucking Stop & Shop there was mandating masks (I pulled my mock-turtleneck over my nose until inside the building) but the big problem was that they only had ONE LINE FOR ALL THE REGISTERS and all the self-checkouts were turned off. All I needed was a case of ginger ale (“JUST ONE PEPSI! BUT SHE WOULDN’T GIVE IT TO ME!”) and the single line was wrapped around the store. After a few minutes of commiserating with others on line, I lost my patience and walked to the front of the line, gave a very nice lady who already had groceries on the belt a $10 to scan my case of ginger ale with her groceries. To sweeten the pot, I let her use my employee discount (10% off everything). We both left slightly less annoyed than we otherwise would have been. This shit needs to end!

    • DenverJ

      That’s crazy. King Soopers was only letting in a few people at a time for like a week, then stopped when we had a cold snap. The local Home Depot does too, but I just go a few miles to one in Englewood- no limits, just on which door you can use, which I think is only so they can use the pro doors for pickup.
      It’s all just kabuki theater.

    • hayeksplosives

      Yep. But not until enough of these thugs identify themselves so we know who to look out for, and also ID the useful idiots who still think the government wants to help them .

    • JD is Unemployed

      +1 Suicidal Tendencies

    • JaimeRoberto Delecto

      The store near my parents has the one way markings. Most people obeyed them, but the Asians were consistently going the wrong way. They can’t even drive a shopping cart.

      • Grosspatzer

        LACIST!

    • Hyperion

      If you return to work, you’ll die. But if you refuse to return to work, you’ll die! Sounds about right.

      • DenverJ

        This has got to be a dream, right? We’re all stuck in a book by Vonnegut or the russian guy starts with a k.

      • AlmightyJB

        I don’t know but I don’t want to play anymore.

      • juris imprudent

        If you’re thinking Franz Kafka, he weren’t no Rooskie.

      • egould310

        Not Kafka, you moran. He’s talking about Kurosawa.

      • C. Anacreon

        No, he meant Kaptain Krunch.

      • DenverJ

        I already posted this, but it didn’t take:
        That is who I was thinking of, and you’re right he wasn’t Russian, sir. This is probably evidence that we are living in a hologram, and/or a computer simulation

    • Hyperion

      There is this little hope of a ray of sunshine peeking through the gloom.

      When certain people, inevitably, seized on this issue to use for political reasons, I think most people knew it was a very, very risky game with little margin for error. Is there anyone who thought that they would not fuck it up in spectacular fashion? Because I didn’t. And there is where our hope lies.

      • hayeksplosives

        You don’t think the racket turned even one click to the left? There are plenty of people who think we should have shut down harder to save their grandma, and they think the govt is beneficent.

        However, you might be onto something—this might have awakened a heretofore untapped vein of the desire for freedom and rule of law.

        It’s certainly true that there are people saying “and Epstein didn’t kill himself” who never would have doubted the government account 10, 20 yrs ago.

      • hayeksplosives

        “Rachet” turn, not racket (although…)

      • Hyperion

        “You don’t think the racket turned even one click to the left?”

        Nope. All it did was bring out the screechers, the Karens for the moment in the spotlight. Those people were already the way they are. But I do think they’re unintentionally creating a lot more people who are now more skeptical of government and authority.

        I could be wrong. We’ll see.

      • juris imprudent

        I don’t mind having the Karens drawn out. Simplifies my target selection when this clicks over another 10 or 12 more.

      • AlmightyJB

        “Is there anyone who thought that they would not fuck it up in spectacular fashion?”

        I had no doubt. There is no situation so f’k up that government can’t and won’t make worse. I don’t know if people will see that or not. You know the media will spin and gaslight as needed. If they ever do admit to the over reaction, I’m sure they’ll blame Trump for it. People don’t like to admit to being wrong or to being stupid. I just hope it ends quickly and peacefully.

      • juris imprudent

        There are people that believe in govt just as other people believe in God.

      • Hyperion

        Progs in general. It’s a religion for them.

      • SweatingGin

        I probably don’t have a good view on the average/common.

        But from here in MI, I think things are going a lot more red as people get tired of this shit.

        My wife’s family is an immigrant community, and my brother in law just died, way early (early 40s) with two negative corona tests.

        Social distancing is done here. If he had it, we all do, and fuck it

      • Ted S.

        My condolences.

    • Nephilium

      So, in defiance of the Cleveland mayor saying that there will be no large gatherings through the summer, one of the local groups is scheduling St. Patrick’s Easter De Mayo July on August 1st.

      • DEG

        So what you’re saying is, is I should plan to be in Cleveland in August?

      • Nephilium

        At this point we’ll see. I don’t see social distancing and the lockdown surviving past Memorial Day, but I didn’t believe the shutdown was going to happen in the before times.

      • DEG

        OK. I’ll keep it on my list of possibilities.

    • DEG

      Wow. Sununu in NH said that employees that are too scared to return to work because of Lil Rona can continue to collect unemployment.

      • hayeksplosives

        That’s pretty much what basic guaranteed income is; I guess.

        (These are people who boasted about having record numbers on food stamps under Obama.)

      • Hyperion

        When the state no longer has enough revenue to cover things, we’ll see what happens. Because that’s inevitable.

      • hayeksplosives

        That is what I’m thinking.

        A few of the elites have done the math and know that they can’t go so far as to slay the golden goose, but those elites have enlisted the services of the teeming hoards, who are now hungry for flesh and believe a one time redistribution of wealth will do the trick.

  25. pistoffnick

    We grew up poor. Single mom with two hungry boys. We ate off-brand boxed mac ‘n’ cheese because it was a quarter for a box. I often did the cooking because mom worked 3 jobs and often came home late (it was also a convenient method of keeping me out of trouble). I remember making tuna noodle casserole 4 night’s in a row once because that was all we had. I also remember cooking grape and wiener omelettes because that was all that was in the fridge.

    When she had time, Mom used to make large batches of hamburger buns using government flour and government honey. We’d gorge ourselves on freshly baked buns then freeze the rest for school lunches.

    The neighbors often gave us their freezer-burned venison. Mom would make them rhubarb cobbler in exchange

    Christmas eve we’d splurge on Torsk with melted butter and Oyster Stew with little oyster crackers.

    To this day, I get anxious if the freezer isn’t full.

    • DenverJ

      I went and dropped $70 on meats yesterday. The freezer was looking empty, and it’s about to get scarce/pricey. Farmers are butchering livestock because the restaurants aren’t buying, and it’s too pricey to keep all these animals around.

    • Mojeaux

      To this day, I get anxious if the freezer isn’t full.

      Our freezer arrangement was that we had some room in a chest freezer over at my other grandma’s (mom’s mom). So my dad and his dad would raise a few head of cattle, have it butchered, split it, we’d put that in mom’s mom’s freezer, she’d get whatever she wanted, which wasn’t much because she didn’t eat much at all, and if we ran out of beef, we’d have to wait until the weekend when we could run over and get some out of the freezer. Mom’s mom also had a lot of land and we had a garden. My mom put up tons of stuff and that saved our bacon a few winters.

      Anyway, I too feel insecure if my freezer isn’t full and, because of the coming meat problems, felt insecure with the one freezer FULL. So we got another one and filled it.

      • OBE #Learn2Essential

        Yep payday tomorrow and time to fill the next freezer while we can

    • hayeksplosives

      Tales of survival. Growing up with little means you (Are more likely) appreciate it when circumstances improve.

      I just don’t want this generation to have to tell a future generation about the far away good old days when we could get good French bread, gourmet cheese, good quality livestock and produce. We could drink water from the tap! We could keep proceeds from our land!

      • juris imprudent

        Listen son, before things went to shit, we drank real Scotch, from Scotland.

      • hayeksplosives

        “Scotland—isn’t that the old name for MacLamabad?”

      • Nephilium

        There’s a Spider Robinson short story (I believe it’s The Good Old Days, but can’t confirm) about a kid asking his grandfather what it was like when he was a kid. The grandfather starts bragging about how they went to school five days a week, getting picked up by a bus that they had to walk AT MOST a block to catch, they weren’t working, and were in fact forbidden from work due to the laws of the land.

    • Hyperion

      /cause of death, COVID19

    • hayeksplosives

      Cardiac problems are so yesterday; COVID19 is where the action is!

  26. Count Potato

    “I believe you, Tara Reade.
    You have people who remember you told them about this decades ago.
    We know he is “handsy.”
    You’re not asking for $.
    You’ve obviously struggled mightily with this.
    I still have to fight Trump, so I will still support Joe.
    But I believe you. And I’m sorry”

    https://twitter.com/LisaBloom/status/1256327017911382018

    CWAA

    • hayeksplosives

      She is probably very proud of her brave open letter.

      • Count Potato

        Her entire twitter is real horror show.

      • juris imprudent

        Honestly, isn’t that the whole purpose of twitter?

    • DEG

      Heh

    • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

      If this plan saves 1 life, then its worth it

      Oh, C****t…. They actually played that card.

      • Grumbletarian

        Eliminating police forces would have saved at least one life.

        sin,
        Eric Garner

  27. Count Potato

    “DHS report: China hid virus’ severity to hoard supplies

    WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. officials believe China covered up the extent of the coronavirus outbreak — and how contagious the disease is — to stock up on medical supplies needed to respond to it, intelligence documents show.

    Chinese leaders “intentionally concealed the severity” of the pandemic from the world in early January, according to a four-page Department of Homeland Security intelligence report dated May 1 and obtained by The Associated Press. The revelation comes as the Trump administration has intensified its criticism of China, with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo saying Sunday that that country was responsible for the spread of disease and must be held accountable.”

    https://apnews.com/bf685dcf52125be54e030834ab7062a8

    • hayeksplosives

      This still counts as a big deal, right? Even though OrangemanBad?

      I am ok with pumping some of our trillions in “stimulus” to getting our semiconductor chip supply chain built up in this country. But of course corruption and cronyism will prevent it from actually working.

      • Hyperion

        “This still counts as a big deal, right? Even though OrangemanBad?”

        I see you’re not an Atlantic subscriber.

    • juris imprudent

      This whole “so contagious” bit is a huge part of the narrative. On two fucking ships at sea, the Diamond Princess and the USS Theodore Roosevelt the fucking terror flu never even infected 20% on board either one. And of those infected, half never had symptoms. Assuming standard cruise ship demographics the Diamond Princess should have been a fucking floating coffin.

  28. Count Potato

    “This sign in Pittsburgh was doctored & circulated online to have a Nazi concentration camp slogan. Real photo on the right by photographer Andrew Rush. People are working overdrive to smear all “reopen America” protesters as fascists. When they can’t find them, they create them.”

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1256679202327166976

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      So that was horseshit? Well I’ll be dipped…

  29. Mojeaux

    Next time: Toys and games

    *she says as she plays with her Spirograph*

    • Count Potato

      Can you get ball point pens in different colors?

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        Mojeaux–if I may

        She is liberated, CP.

      • Hyperion

        Dude, how do you think there would still be any wimin folk alive if that were not true?

      • Ted S.

        This is why there are no female libertarians….

    • Ted S.

      I’ve got a Soviet-era Etch-a-Sketch packed away somewhere.

      • Mojeaux

        I never had one of those and the few times I played with one (g-gma’s house), I was more impressed by its ability to erase.

  30. Count Potato

    “Antifa & left-wing protesters in Chicago targeted Heartland Alliance, a nonprofit that houses migrant & unaccompanied minors. Masked protesters scaled facility & threw incendiary devices. This video shows one of the devices nearly landing on a child brought to the protest #MayDay”

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1256424399034413056

    • Hyperion

      We gotta free the chillins by bombing them. Makes sense.

    • Heroic Mulatto

      Heartland Alliance was founded by THE Jane Addams of Hull House fame.

    • juris imprudent

      Willing to bet the morons think it was Heartland Institute. That should be doubly amusing when they discover their error.

  31. SweatingGin

    There’s nothing wrong with Chef Boyardee Ravioli. It’s still awesome

    • SweatingGin

      That’s worse than the guy in his underwear

    • Hyperion

      Jeebus, I sure as hell am not looking at that train wreck.

    • Crusty Juggler

      Fact.

    • Heroic Mulatto

      She’s treating politics with the gravitas it deserves.

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        I find it difficult to disagree with this.

    • CPRM

      That was 4 years ago! This time they’ll be better!

  32. Fourscore

    During the War (WW2) and rationing there had to be adjustments made. Meat was rationed but my folks knew a place that didn’t require ration points and the meat was cheaper. Some of the livestock (maybe most) was Kentucky Derby rejects. I don’t know what it was sold as but I’m guessing the customers played a game of pretend. We didn’t talk about it and were advised not to discuss it with our friends.

    My Mom worked in a bakery, afternoon shift, so she would leave a pot of vegetable soup or meatless potato soup ready for my Dad to heat and eat for us kids (3 boys). On Fridays Dad made French toast and didn’t care how much Karo’s corn syrup we used, that was always great. On Sunday evenings if we’d been to a movie at the Bijou (25c a ticket) we came home and would have toasted cheese sandwiches. Mom often brought home coffee cake that had gotten broken or fell on the floor or some other accident that didn’t involve a boat.

    After the war and rationing ended sugar was cheap, we ate a lot of pies and cakes. I really don’t miss those days as far as food choices go. Mrs Fourscore likes fresh vegetables as so do I and I eat salads while she is eating anything in a lettuce wrap. Dessert is usually a piece of fruit, divided by if its big enough.

    • Ted S.

      My mom was born during WWII (May 1942) and Grandma would always tell the story that when she took Mom to the butcher, the butcher would put Mom up on the counter and yell out, “Fresh bull market meat!”

    • Crusty Juggler

      This week in the “tales of the great depression:.”

      Listen Old, your depression is nothing like my depression.

      I had my job stolen my retards and had to subsist on takeout – that’s a depression.

    • Don Escaped Sarcasm

      points

      Dad still has ration books because his family had no cash: having the right to buy doesn’t give you the money to buy. But they did have, in addition to a lot of other things, meat and sugar. They kept a small dairy herd and would raise a beef, but I don’t think they ever sold beef: I think price-setting made it a worthless venture if you did things all legal (pro-tip in there to regulation fiends everywhere). Beets, cane, and sorghum kept them in the sweet stuff year round.

      His littlest brother, the Unluckiest Guy of all Time™, started his reign as a child by getting hung up in the cane mill. He was too young to be working it, of course, and the mule kept going ’round until his right hand was ground off. Good times.

      • hayeksplosives

        Dang. That’s a tough way to start out (friend’s little brother).

      • pistoffnick

        “His littlest brother, the Unluckiest Guy of all Time™…”

        Would be delighted to read more about this gent.

      • Don Escaped Sarcasm

        Welp * draws deep breath *

        a/ Their mother died during his birth. She bore ten children but was told repeatedly by doctors to stop.

        b/ He was farmed out to childless relatives who loved him like their own until he was seven. In our world, old enough for school is old enough to work, so my grandfather drug him away from the only love he would ever know when he was big enough to milk.

        c/ hung up in the mill per above

        d/ At 14 he was working in a garage when Gates had a sales challenge on belts and hoses. During a fill-up, he was pulling on a belt when the driver fired up the engine and drug his good hand through the sheave, nipping of the ends off more fingers.

        e/ First wife, an awful person, left.

        f/ Second wife, dumb as a bois d’arc stump, bore him an incredibly stupid son. Son would get into drugs and lose a foot in a car wreck while running from the sheriff. Son continues as a degenerate addict.

        g/ Second wife left.

        h/ First life returned. They share a life of helping each other recover from surgeries to address lifetimes of smoking.

        I need a drink.

      • hayeksplosives

        Holy cow. Quite a tough slog. And sorry for identifying him as your “friend”—on closer review he’s your father’s bro?

        Thanks for today’s “Could be Worse” story of the day.

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        dumb as a bois d’arc stump

        ::Texan ‘ears’ perk up::

        Consider this stolen shared, comrade.

    • JaimeRoberto Delecto

      My Dad’s dad did pretty well building big houses for wealthy people in the Bay Area during the Depression. He figured rich people still had money. He lost his company during the war because he couldn’t get building materials, so he helped build the interment camp at Tulelake.

      My Mom’s dad had a hard time holding down a job so they’d go camping in the Sierra all summer and live off the fish he caught, which actually sounds kind of fun. When the war came along he has an easier time getting a job.

  33. Chipping Pioneer

    @MJ — the beef stroganoff is exactly the same way my Mom made it when I was a kid — I still make it more or less the same way, with some mods — I add smoked paprika.

    Served over a bed of egg noodles. Lots of ketchup and hot sauce on top.

  34. Chipping Pioneer

    This lockdown may be what turns me from a minarchist into a full-on an-cap.

    My minarchist self believes that the role of government is to protect the rights of its citizens. Full stop.

    However, I realize that this is an ideal. And I now recognize that governments cannot do this. At every turn, they violate our rights. Governments have demonstrated that they are incompatible with rights and liberties. The logical conclusion is do away with them.

    • pistoffnick

      Welcome! We have rhubarb cobbler!

      • Chipping Pioneer

        Make it strawberry-rhubarb and add vanilla ice cream and I’m in!

      • Don Escaped Sarcasm

        no no no: there’s still time to vote for the guardians of our life, world, and values! Go Team Red! MAGA! MAGA!

      • pistoffnick

        Done.

      • pistoffnick

        The world needs more An-Caps in my not so humble opinion.

      • Fourscore

        If anyone needs some rhubarb roots to start your own plants I would be happy to send some. One or 2 plants and you will have a life time’s worth of rhubarb in a year or two. Unfortunately it likes cold weather, maybe Zone 2/3/4

      • Suthenboy

        I cant grow rhubarb or asparagus. This makes me sad.

      • pistoffnick

        Rhubarb is a weed here in Northern MN. In fact we have a festival to celebrate it (i.e. use it up)

        https://www.perfectduluthday.com/the-event/chum-rhubarb-festival-2019/

        I used to donate my time by cutting it up by the garbage bag full. Seriously, we’d cut up 30 30 gallonn garbage bags of of rhubarb. The rhubarb brats are a nice union of meaty and tart. The rhubarb tart of my youth was excellent. Sadly, I can’t do that much sugar in this stage of my life.

  35. Timeloose

    My homemade nostalgia favorites are hit and miss. Chef Boyardee is still good, Dinty More still good, Spam sandwiches are still good, fried Baloney and pork and beans are pretty good, and my mom still makes great soups, breads, and pasta sauces.

    The good that are now bad to me. My moms chilli, tacos, or anything with spice. She was a bland eater due to her own digestive issues. All meat and chicken cooked by my mom. She overcooked everything because my grandmother and father cooked all meat to death to make up for the days past due date. I’ve turned her around on this as well as my grandma. They both eat med rare steak and pork that’s a little pink.

    The bad were bad back in the day and still are. Tuna noodle casserole, cream of anything in casserole, and any canned vegetables are terrible except beets.

    • Chipping Pioneer

      YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH ABOUT TUNA CASSEROLE!!!

      Although, in adulthood, I have a refined version. Penne or fusilli and real shredded cheddar instead of KD.

      • Timeloose

        I never liked it because of the small crunchy onion and celery that usually accompanies it in my house. That was and still is a thing for me. Onions should be cooked at all times in food or not used.

    • hayeksplosives

      Canned veggies are a terrible intro of veggies to a child’s palate (or anyone’s).

      Canned peas, canned spinach, canned corn, canned green beans. All terrible.

      Then we started getting frozen bricks (Green Giant and Birds Eye) of spinach, Brussels sprouts, etc. better—still awful.

      Now we have, at any season, fresh produce from anywhere in the world. Brussels sprouts, asparagus, kale (all crucifers, really), green beans—yum!

      Going back to canned would be a big let down.

      • creech

        “fresh produce from anywhere in the world”
        Greta and friends do not want you eating fresh veggies from anywhere in the world. You get to eat what you can grow in your neck of the woods and be grateful the ocean hasn’t flooded NYC or Stockholm.

      • juris imprudent

        Londoners always looked good under-nourished and verging on scurvy.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        Greta and friends do not want you eating fresh veggies from anywhere in the world. You get to eat what you can grow in your neck of the woods

        I’m pretty sure our NatPops yammering on and on about “localism” and “supply chains” want that too.

      • Chipping Pioneer

        OK, so here’s another strategy that I’ve started with:

        In general, I agree with you on fresh is better (though I prefer canned green beans to fresh).

        Anyway, fresh vegetables: Yes, except if you’re going to put them in a soup or stew or casserole and cook the shit out of them anyway. Then, frozen are good. Cheaper, already cut up, and otherwise would have gone to waste.

        I learned this from Jamie Oliver. Despite being a questionable chef (last week I watched him put sweet potatoes in gumbo), he has some decent tips for the home cook.

      • Suthenboy

        Sweet potatoes = not gumbo

      • DrOtto

        Same with frozen fish. I used to believe I didn’t like fish. Turns out I just don’t like frozen fish.

    • juris imprudent

      Our Saturday ritual, in good times or bad, was hamburgers (usually on the broiler, or out on the grill) with buns & fixins, a pot of beans (usually Van Camp pork & beans, but my dad was really fond of Ranch Beans) and potato chips.

  36. Chipping Pioneer

    So, if we’re supposed to listen to the UN “experts”, here’s something that I came across recently (sorry if this has already been posted):

    https://insight.wfp.org/covid-19-will-almost-double-people-in-acute-hunger-by-end-of-2020-59df0c4a8072

    130 million additional lives and livelihoods at risk due to hunger because of the shutdown. Not to mention the livelihoods at risk due to the economic impacts of the shutdown.

    My back-of-the-envelop calculation shows that the worst case scenario for COVID-19 is (7.8 billion humans) * (85% infection rate) * (0.6% fatality rate) = 39.78 million deaths. Absolute worst case, not accounting for deaths that would have occurred anyway for other causes.

    This lockdown shit is worse than the virus by an order of magnitude.

    • hayeksplosives

      “ This lockdown shit is worse than the virus by an order of magnitude.”

      Absolutely. And, tragically, longer lasting.

    • Annoyed Nomad

      Yes, I’ve seen that prediction by the UN and wondered why it’s not getting more coverage. Not only will the economic lockdown cause many more lives to be lost, they will be younger lives. What happened about worrying about “the children”?

      And it’s annoying that they attribute the economic-related deaths “to COVID-19”. NO! The virus will not be causing those deaths; it’s the government reaction to the virus that will be causing those deaths.

    • KSuellington

      We go down to a Mexican fishing village on the Sea of Cortez once a year for our vacation. Myself and the wife were talking the other day about if our summer trip was gonna happen this year. My soon to be five year old piped in, “hey, if people can’t go to Mexico, how are the Mexicans going to work?” Good point, they ain’t, and they will be hurting because of it. A five year old has deeper thoughts about this thing than the majority of politicians and public health retards.

  37. Timeloose

    FYI,

    The nice weather has killed any sense of social distancing in my neighborhood. Everyone still wears masks in stores because they will kick you out due to gov Wolf Pussy. Everywhere else no masks, parties, get together a and kids playing in the parks.

    • hayeksplosives

      An honest to goodness ice cream truck made the rounds here in my local neighborhood. They’re coming back this Thursday.

      I hope the ice cream truck catches on.

      As for the rest, can confirm—people ignoring many rules if no enforcement around. Hooray!

      • JaimeRoberto Delecto

        The ice cream truck in my neighborhood brought out the Karens on Nextdoor.

      • DrOtto

        I may hate Nextdoor more than Twitter.

      • JaimeRoberto Delecto

        They are both just a tool. They can be used for good and for evil.

    • Chipping Pioneer

      I like it. Massive civil disobedience.

  38. NoDakMat

    Good Sunday, Gilbs and Glibettes! The NoDakMat household has decided that we are going to purchase a food dehydrator. Does anyone have any tips on which to purchase or not purchase? One consideration is that I am a homebrewer, so it would be a bonus if said dehydrator is capable of handling spent grains.

    Hey, Mo! I didn’t read the links, but I assume they were top notch! The NoDaks had planned on being in your neck o’ the woods this coming August to witness the Twins kicking the shit out of the Royals in beautiful Kauffman Stadium. I guess that isn’t going to happen this year. Maybe next.

    • Suthenboy

      Mine is a simple device. It has a dozen removable trays and blows hot air in. It has a temp setting. Volume is maybe 3/4 – 1 full cubic foot. It was cheap and works great. I went for the Wax-Mart special. It is 20 years old and still going.

      • Ted S.

        Gotta love auto-correct.

      • Fourscore

        Ah, that’s the one we have, as well

      • NoDakMat

        So, wifey was thinking that plastic trays would hold on to food smells, leave flavors from the precious batch in the current batch. She was thinking SS trays would be the best. She probably just wants me to spend more money. haha! Any insight?

      • NoDakMat

        *previous

      • pistoffnick

        I have never noticed any unsightly smells from the plastic trays. I clean them in the dishwasher after every use.

      • NoDakMat

        Awesome. Thanks, nick, I’ll probably go ahead and order that. Maybe see you again at the next honey harvest.

      • pistoffnick

        I’ll probably be there. Hope to see ya and not smell ya.

      • NoDakMat

        Meh. See, all us NoDak’s actually smell normal; It’s the Minnesoda stump humpers and rabbit chokers that smell… off… and then since you’re surrounded by it you’re sense of smell gets messed up.

    • Fourscore

      We have one but I’m not sure what brand, doesn’t get much use anymore. We used to make venison jerky, dried tomatoes, etc. The vacuum packer , OTOH, does get a lot of use. Lots of stuff in the freezer vacuumed and frozen, meat mostly, seasoned and ready for cooking.

    • pistoffnick

      Also, get thee self a fucking avatar! We are semi-professional here.

      • UnCivilServant

        Don’t be silly, we’re nowhere near semipro.

      • Ted S.

        We’re semi-amateur.

      • NoDakMat

        I had a perfectly good avatar and then some stupid internet computer shit happened that made it not work anymore! I think it may have been an illegal taking, so I am due some restitution.

  39. grrizzly

    This German-American researcher appears to be quite knowledgeable and credible. The best discussion of epidemiological issues related to COVID-19 I’ve seen since we all had to become amateur epidemiologists. Also, unlike these two doctors from California who had the same message, he doesn’t rely on shady estimates (that even I could notice despite being sympathetic to the California doctors’ message) or stick to the part of the dogma (need MOAR testing) that even many contrarians cannot reject.

    The shelter-in-place was completely unnecessary and made things worse.

    • hayeksplosives

      Disappearing into linked article…brb

    • Heroic Mulatto

      I just finished watching the entire interview. Thank you for sharing. He spoke truth to power!

    • mikey

      Thx. Just watched the whole thing.
      Donny needs to fire the midget and the scarf lady and hire this guy.

  40. Tres Cool

    So, having gotten sucked into watching the “Waco” drama on Netflix, Ill give it 7.5/10.
    I dont know how accurate the details are about life inside with Koresh, but the ending was shockingly anti-gov’t, so I approve.

    I was asked, “so these FBI guys that lied are jail, right?”
    “No”
    “Why the fuck not?”
    “Qualified immunity”
    “What the fuck is that?”

    Then I had to explain how a cop with “reasonable fear” for his/her life can shoot you dead, and not get charged. Hilarity failed to ensue.

    • pistoffnick

      That documentary sealed the deal for total anarcho-capitalist for me.

      • Tres Cool

        Law enforcement is one of those things I vacillate on- it needs to be there, but how do you weed out the power-hungry, roid-monsters, that have a boner for shooting your doge?

      • pistoffnick

        I don’t know, man, they seem to pretty consistently fuck up.

      • Tres Cool

        Well, I had to explain to someone, “You dont understand the powers a regular cop has. Say someone in a car like yours was seen slinging dope in a parking lot- as told by a ‘confidential informant’. You get pulled over cause its a similar car, and you maybe fit the description the snitch gave. Thats reasonable suspicion. You consent to a search, confident you dont have drugs- but then they plant something, cause the $500 they paid the CI has to look good on the books….”

        “They dont do that. Its illegal. ”

        “mmmmhmmmm”

      • Tres Cool

        Ive seen that.

        “Well do you mind if I look around the car a little bit?”
        Well my glove compartment is locked, so is the trunk and the back
        And I know my rights so you goin’ need a warrant for that
        “Aren’t you sharp as a tack? You some type of lawyer or something?
        “Somebody important or something?”
        Child, I ain’t passed the bar, but I know a little bit
        Enough that you won’t illegally search my shit
        “Well we’ll see how smart you are when the K-9 come”

        I got ninety nine problems but a bitch ain’t one,

        -Jay-Z

      • pistoffnick

        Yeah, the K-9 exemption.

        I am going to take that option every chance I get.

        A) it ties up resources in a war that I don’t believe (war on drugs) in and am furious that I have to pay for.
        B) it creates more hassle for the po-po.
        C) I got all the time in the world

      • pistoffnick

        I’m gonna get some fast food, and eat it slow…

      • juris imprudent

        Make them pay for all settlements out of their fucking pension funds. The police will then police the bad ones.

      • Tres Cool

        Again, as long as there’s QI, they dont have an incentive to own up to their fuck-ups, and the union protects them.
        And the municipalities that hire them bask in sovereign immunity, so why not pay it forward?

      • hayeksplosives

        I finished the three John Wick movies this weekend. What now?

      • Tres Cool

        Sherlock Holmes with Robert Downy

      • KSuellington

        Every episode of Magnum PI is on Amazon Prime right now. I’ve been working my way through the series. It is still awesome.

      • Tres Cool

        Always awesome.
        And if you read my comment above, Tom in ‘The Accused’ is a good movie.
        Also him being the homo in “In & Out” is good, too. Its got fat Joan Cusack, and you know how I stand on that.

      • KSuellington

        I take it you are in the pro-fat-Cusack camp?

      • Tres Cool

        Duh. I like the larger ladies, what can I say ?

      • hayeksplosives

        Thanks, all!

    • Gustave Lytton

      Lon Horiuchi is still a free man.

    • R C Dean

      Oh, it doesn’t need to be reasonable fear, if you’re a cop.

  41. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    Well, I kept the tradition alive of making my daughter’s birthday cake for her, if only by technicality.

    Last year was a from-scratch banana cake. This year is a from-box strawberry cake decorated to look like Frozen. Most of our kitchen equipment is packed up for the move, including our cake pans, frosting tips, scissors, spatulas, etc.

    I sculpted with a butter knife, iced with a ziploc bag cut open with a chef’s knife, baked the cakes in Pyrex storage bowls, and ended up with something I give a B- given the equipment shortcomings. Hopefully by next year I learn to smooth the icing with the non-serrated side of the knife. ?

    Cake decorating is something I wish I was less awful at, but something I definitely won’t be putting the time in to master.

    • Tres Cool

      Solid work. And Im guessing that when she’s a teen, you’ll be the dick in the den, cleaning a gun, telling her date, “I fully expect you to bring her home in the same condition she leaves the house in.”

      • Tres Cool

        For you or her?

        For you Id recommend an 870 express, or the solid Mossberg 500 pump. The sound alone should be alarming.

        “son, have you ever seen what a deer slug does to a milk jug full of water? Its called hydrostatic shock. Now, we’re 2/3 water….”

      • l0b0t

        This is my favorite Mossberg 500 model – the nautical line-thrower. The safety orange furniture makes me happy.

    • CPRM

      My sister-in-law made a volcano (with sparklers and fire FX) surrounded by dinosaurs for my nephew’s cake (the cake was store bought, but she did make the volcano and put the dinosaurs on).

    • l0b0t

      Aww, that looks wonderful. What a great father you are.

  42. Chipwooder

    So recently a guy in our neighborhood who is an amateur DJ has been playing music in front of his house on Sunday afternoons. I didn’t go because I’m an antisocial misanthrope, but my wife and my kids went. When they came back, they gushed about how much fun it was…..other than when the cops showed up. That’s right, some spineless, dickless bag of monkey shit called the fucking cops to complain “people are gathering outside of their homes”. Oh my god, that set me off. To quote Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction, “Man, if only I had caught him doing it. It would have been worth him doing it just so I could have caught him.”

    • CPRM

      I bet he didn’t play any music I like, so good for the cops!

      • Chipwooder

        Heh…probably not, that’s another reason I didn’t go

    • hayeksplosives

      Those are the neighbors you leave off future parties.

  43. hayeksplosives

    Out of curiosity, I went to the other site and saw the comments.

    The banter is neither playful nor witty nor wise. Just awful.

    • l0b0t

      I haven’t been over there in a spell. The last time I visited, I found when I left a comment that my handle was the one I switched to right before the Gibbening, it refers unfavorably to their treatment of Sloopy’s mom. Their DerpBook presence is chock full of the worst progressives/statists/CATO types. But then it always was.

      • CPRM

        I still have a permabookmark on my browser, but I don’t think I’ve been there since the move, unless it was a link someone here posted.

    • Dry_Gin_Wet_Farts

      It’s mostly socks and trolls. Occasionally, you see a handle from before the Glibbening. It’s just too much of a shitshow to wade through.

    • l0b0t

      That’s fantastic. I’m sure he had a great time riding his dino all over the house.

      • CPRM

        His sisters tried to show him how to ride it, but he just wanted to hold it. When I left he was taking it to bed.

    • Festus

      You’re a good Uncle and you, god willing, will be an excellent Dad some day.

    • CPRM

      Huh, when I saw that video I expected it to be closer to Madison. Calumet County is in my neck of the woods.

  44. CPRM

    Digby, I did go kamikaze, and I crashed and burned.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Sometimes the divine wind is just a fart.

      • CPRM

        I don’t want no part in Divine’s wind. I think was John Watter’s kink though.

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        He She Xe was…something, alright.

        #ShitEatingGrin

    • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

      Awww, shit….You wanna email about it, or, is that all there is?

      • CPRM

        She was nice about it. Said she had her kids for the summer and wanted to spend her days off with them. Ok, sure. Then she said her kids were teenagers. No one wants to spend time with teenagers.

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        Yeeeeah. About that….

        ::Remember fights with mom during HS::

        I mean, it’s a given that teens don’t want to spend time with parents, in most situations. Maybe she’s trying to manipulate them into sticking around, and can’t have a ‘divided’ mind right now. Moms can be weird about that sort of thing.

        Otherwise, I got nuthin’.

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        Hey–she’s the one with the built-in excuse. ?

        Plus, the idea is planted, and Summer is only, what…5, 6 months? Something like that.

      • CPRM

        Summer is only, what…5, 6 months

        HAHAHAHAHA, this is Wisconsin sonny, Winter starts again next week!

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        Like I said, something like that. Maybe she needs them for kindling, or, harvesting…

      • CPRM

        At this point the failure is the norm. I’d probably be that fisherman that is too freaked out to actually unhook the fish if a lady said yes.

      • CPRM

        The Life of Brian is of course my favorite Python movie.

    • salted earth

      CPRM,
      It’s good you took the risk. It is not an easy thing for a lot of people.
      I applaud your emotional bravery.

      • CPRM

        One man’s emotional bravery is another man’s midlife crisis. I’d rather have a Corvette.

      • salted earth

        It doesn’t seem like a midlife crisis. Sounds like you are working towards building the life that you want.

      • CPRM

        I’m just making fun of the INCELs. I’ve made my choices. Sure it gets depressing, but I’m not going to even cast the line unless I’m really interested.

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        Yup–what s.e. said.

        I have a somewhat similar view/response, as far as the fish analogy. I’ve had situations where a “yes” was far more of a problem than a “no”, when all was said and done. The result is a streak of gun-shyness about the whole meghilla

      • CPRM

        Oh, one night I will regail you with how I was emotionally scarred being a 13yr old semi-autistic living in a small town, if I haven’t already. I don’t remember. My other song to get me out of the dumps. A Texas band!

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        We’ll trade stories! Like, my case of shingles at the end of, and after, my first grown-up adult…well, you get the idea.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Did someone say yes?

      • CPRM
      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        Difficult to scream with lower registers? Growl, yes.

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        I thought it was late enough for low-hanging fruit.

    • CPRM

      Stay on the rez injun!

  45. Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

    C–I just watched this doc on the Amazing Johnathan. It’s a Hulu title, but, if you can watch it, I’d love to hear your take on it.

    I won’t say it’s great, per se, but it’s interesting, and is mostly focused on the process of actually making the doc, and all the twists and turns that this one had to deal with (presuming it is all true).

    • CPRM

      funny. Like, in a Charlie Kaufman, “Adaptation” sort of way.

      That right there makes me distrust the author, and I do not have Hulu. But, if you really want me to give a review I can, by watching it via other means. However, the problems I’m having with my PC right now won’t let me view it on TV (well, I could watch it, but the driver problems aren’t transferring the audio to the other room), which is how I would watch were I to review it. So you might have to remind me to review it once I get the new PC built, which won’t happen until I get this unemployment stuff straightened out. (On Funemployment 2.0!)

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        I definitely don’t want it to be any kind of homework, et al. Since I haven’t seen Adaptation, and have very little knowledge of what his shtick is, it’s hard for me to judge that statement (I didn’t read that article; I picked it for expedience’s sake), but, it is quite a bit about the guy making the doc, and just how much he’s involved and influences what’s going on, as well as if he’s being played. Johnathan has behaved a lot like Andy Kaufman in his life, and there’s the lurking possibility that he’s doing some kind of meta joke.

      • CPRM

        Just on that comment, I’d vote against it. A documentarian, or a news person, should never try influence the story. Hell, I still feel guilty that when I shot a package on the Tea Party movement in Wisconsin in my second stint in college I yelled at an anti-protester when we were moving from one set-up to another (even though he was yelling obscenities from a window) it wasn’t my place to respond and I feel guilty almost 12 years later.

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        TBF, while it’s hard for me to succinctly state the issue(s), it isn’t quite so much about him trying to influence it, so much as it does cover just how much his participation (making the thing) may or may not be influencing Johnathan’s behavior, and what Ben’s (the doc maker) end game is, when it comes to telling this story. Is it going to end with Johnathan’s death, since he was supposed to already be dead? I think you can kinda get the feel for what’s in it.

        Like I said, I can’t say it’s a great film, but I did find it interesting to watch and see how it got resolved–trying to keep in mind just how the story is being manipulated.

      • CPRM

        A Bowe Bergdahl documentary that I was offered eventually ended my relationship with my business partners and I (one of whom is my brother-in-law that I still can’t talk to without imagining stabbing him in the face) that eventually forced me to buy them out just so my name wouldn’t be attached to any stupid shit they did in pursuit of money. (even though, they both thought I only cared about money, because I’m a libertarian)

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        without imagining stabbing him in the face

        Well, docs can bring that feeling out in people.

      • CPRM

        Makes family gatherings awkward though.

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        That’s why I try to avoid them whenever possible. I find that, as time goes on I have less in common with them.

        Not true, actually–seems I didn’t have all that much to begin with.

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        Sage observation, that.

      • CPRM

        I wouldn’t trust Buster’s brother anyway.

      • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

        Heeey, Brother.

  46. CPRM

    Alt-Right Chillens, bout that time. I’ll try to sleep for about 3hours, get mad that I can’t sleep, then sleep for few hours before the sun comes up.

    • Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

      That’s a plan. Peace.

  47. JD is Unemployed

    Spaghetti-O, I need you so.

    Goooooooooooood mmmmmorning, Glibertnaaaammm!

  48. UnCivilServant

    Mornin’ Glibs.

    My margin is overgrown and I’ll have to wrangle the lawnmower as soon as it’s not been rained on recently.

    • JD is Unemployed

      Read that as a euphemism.

    • Sean

      Please tell me you use an old fashioned reel type mower (and with proper hand PPE).

      • UnCivilServant

        No, I have a cheapass electric lawnmower because it’s a narrow band of grass never more than fifty feet from my door.

    • Gender Traitor

      May the Fourth be with you!

    • Festus

      That show was money on so many levels. The slow-burn jokes… Probably the best network sit-com, ever.

  49. Gender Traitor

    Mornin’, UCS, JD, & Sean!

    Today’s the first day I’ll have to wear a mask at work any time I leave my office. And my first task of the day will be to go around to each of the twelve people left working in our building and quiz them about their health status. Thankfully, the “contact-less” thermometer hasn’t arrived yet, last I knew. When it arrives, I’ll also have to take each person’s temperature and log it.

    I AM grateful to my boss, though. He largely agrees with me about this whole panic-demic being overblown, and after I finish my month-end reports this week and post payroll next Monday, he’s letting me take vacation through Memorial Day. I may not be able to go anywhere, but at least I won’t have to be at the office playing my bit role in this kabuki theater of the absurd.

    • Sean

      No rectal thermometer jokes?

      ?

      • Gender Traitor

        Obvious joke is too obvious. ; )

    • Grosspatzer

      Ugh. Whatever they’re paying you, it ain’t enough. Avoiding this sort of thing is what got me back to coding. That and a lack of demand for my mediocre management skills.

      • Gender Traitor

        Meh – I’m just the administrative assistant (“executive assistant” when the boss is trying to butter me up before giving me a tedious and time-consuming task.) After twenty years, I do well enough, and the generous paid time off goes a long way (as does the great rapport I have with my boss.)

      • Sean

        My new title is Mr. Pandemic safety officer, as required by PA.

        No, I did not get a raise, though I was told I should be getting a bonus at some point.

      • Gender Traitor

        Tell ’em if you don’t get a badge, the deal’s off.

      • Grosspatzer

        ^^^ Hero!

      • Nephilium

        All bonuses, raises, and 401k matching are suspended at my work for the foreseeable future.

  50. Festus

    After all the drama on Saturday night to paraphrase Homer Simpson, “I fell on my bottom and now my bottom is big!” Bruised my tail-bone. Work yesterday was much fun but I think I’ve reached a Chamberlain “peace in our time” moment. She still thinks that I’m stepping out with Baby Head every Friday and Saturday night…

    • Grosspatzer

      She thinks you’re Wilt Chamberlain?

      • Festus

        She’s pissed that I have on-line friends even though she spends a couple of hours everyday on face-stalk and chats with her friends and family relentlessly. It was embarrassing. Baby Head is my nick-name for Tres Cool.