Friday Morning Links

by | Jun 26, 2020 | Daily Links | 476 comments

CHAMPIONS!

Mackenzie Hughes went low at The Travelers. NASCAR showed the world “the noose”. But the real story is across the pond, as Liverpool, the most storied and greatest franchise in all of English soccer, won the league after a 30-year drought. Eat it, Mancunian scum.

About to say something stupid.

Physicist and mathematician William Thomson was born on this day. He shares it with hockey legend George Hainsworth, actor Peter Lorre, aircraft titan Bill Lear, athletic great Babe Didrikson Zaharias, rocker Larry “The Mole” Taylor, musical genius Mick Jones, crooner Chris Isaak, another singer Patty Smyth, comic Mark McKinney, cyclist Greg LeMond, Berlin’s Terri Nunn, NFL player and idiot commentator Shannon Sharpe, filmmaker Paul Thomas Anderson, actor Nick Offerman, baseball player Derek Jeter, Moto GP legend Max Biaggi, donut-licker Arianne Grande, and the lovely Aubrey Plaza.

That was definitely a late 20th Century-heavy list.  Now on to…the links!

WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!

This fear-mongering bullshit is getting ridiculous. How are the death numbers, assholes? Because that should matter a lot more than the case numbers, especially with increased testing. Oh wait, that won’t help get rid of Trump though, so it gets ignored.

Have any of these assholes read the constitution? Look, this is easy: cede the residential areas of DC to Maryland and shrink the government district to what it should be.

Best of luck with that. Let us know how it works out.

Fact check: true

Get woke, go broke watch your stock price drop like a stone. I’m sure their shareholders are just thrilled.

Something nobody watched will now be attended by…nobody. That’s ok, Hollywood. You can give virtual pats on the back and virtually virtue signal to each other.

Uh, but that’s what they do. ::SMDH””

Will this story never end? Actually, I almost hope it doesn’t. It’s great comedy.

Oh, FFS. ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT ALREADY!!!!!!!

I’m sure Roberts will quash this as well. He can always do what he does best: legislate from the bench.

No, it’s not Culture Club. But it is a dude wearing makeup.  Enjoy.

Now have a solid Friday and a great weekend, friends!

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476 Comments

  1. WTF

    The Noose story is just never going to die, is it?

    • sloopyinca

      Nope. It’s gonna hang around for a while.

      • Breet Pharara

        Everyone is just so tied up in knots over it.

      • Festus' Mustache

        It’s bound and determined to be repeated.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Haven’t seen Creosote around for awhile.

      • sloopyinca

        It’s certainly a tangled mess.

      • Festus' Mustache

        “Jutestice for Bubba!”

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      Still want to know how the other drivers feel about getting taken for a ride!

      • sloopyinca

        Somebody needs to circle back and ask them about it.

      • Agent Cooper

        Well, NASCAR drivers always turn left …

    • Rhywun

      Not while it remains useful to the Narrative.

      • Not Adahn

        you misspelled “nooseful.”

      • Gustave Lytton

        ^ systemic gazism

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Not until they tie up the loose ends.

  2. Rebel Scum

    More than 37,000 new cases of Covid-19 were reported on Thursday, according to Johns Hopkins University data

    And? People catch colds all the time.

    • WTF

      Exactly, it’s the fucking flu. Unless you are very elderly and/or have multiple co-morbidities, it’s not going to kill you.

      • Festus' Mustache

        The narrative has become what plants crave.

      • sloopyinca

        The narrative is from the toilet.

      • Rebel Scum

        Toilet plumes.

      • Festus' Mustache

        On dead thread I mentioned listening to the CBC on my way to work. The lead National story was about some no-name museum director getting #metooed and the rest of the newscast was concerned with race and gender except for the one that was fear mongering about the second wave of the China virus. I’m not even angry about this anymore, I’m just sad.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Yeh but what does the Indigenous community think?

        It’s all that matters.

        The CBC should change its name to the IBC.

      • robc

        And, not or. And and isn’t always enough.

        Anecdote: 94 year old who lives two doors down from my mom tested positive. Nursing home she was moving into wouldn’t take her, she ended up in hospital. Hospital kept trying to get rid of her because she had no symptoms. She has ended up finally in a rehab center, because she is still testing positive.

        She is a walking load of comorbidities. She has them all. And she is asymptomatic. When I first heard the story that she was positive, I was convinced she would die of it because I expect her to be dead at any given moment anyway. But apparently not.

      • Rebel Scum

        It’s a respiratory virus. They are spreading and mutating constantly. There is no cure. While not an expert I assume that one’s immune response varies by individual in part due to whatever variants one has encountered prior. So I find that believable, despite the clear observation that flu-like/respiratory viruses are generally more dangerous for the elderly.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Cow-worker just had to move his 92 year-old Mom into a nursing home. He said it felt like a death sentence for the old dear. Poor guy.

      • mrfamous

        My “something’s up” detector has started going off the last few days. We’re doing A LOT of tests, are we doing this with a cheap ‘ronco’ version of tests, and if so have we checked into the false positive rate on these things?

        Anyhow, if the positive test rates continue like this, the IFR is gonna drop below 0.1% in short order making this whole exercise a little pointless.

      • commodious spittoon

        making this whole exercise a little twenty kiloton yield of pointless.

    • straffinrun

      Hey C Nineteen
      No, we can’t dance together
      No, we can’t talk at all
      Please take me along when you slide on down

      Save me Cuervo Gold, though.

      • Festus' Mustache

        No. I will not show you my scabrous feet on a Zoom chat.

      • straffinrun

        But you’ll describe them for me. Tease.

      • Festus' Mustache

        You’ll need to sign up for those on my Instagram account.

      • Bobarian LMD

        PPV?

      • Festus' Mustache

        Friends get in for free*

      • DrOtto

        Dibs on the fine Columbian.

  3. robc

    So storied they are playing in a hand-me-down stadium.

    • sloopyinca

      Jealousy is a stinky cologne.

      • robc

        I love the asterisk on Arsenal in the 2nd column, that is some top class trolling.

      • Rhywun

        They remain the only club since the formation of the Football League in 1888-89 who never earnt their place on merit.

        Damn! Sick burn.

      • robc

        Looking at the unbolded teams in the Top 20, Wednesday is the one that I wish was in the PL. They just belong at the top tier in my mind. Unfortunately, they are as mid-table as you can get right now, 8 pts out of playoffs and 8 pts out of relegation.

      • Rhywun

        Leeds says “hello”.

      • robc

        Agreed, but they are 25th on that list. Leicester has now spent more seasons at the top than them.

      • Rhywun

        Oh. I had no idea Wednesday was that successful historically. Right on.

        I miss Notlob Bolton.

      • Agent Cooper

        My Potters have historically done well, but lately it’s been a bit of a shithow. O’Neill seems to have them out of relegation to (gasp) League One.

      • Ted S.

        He wouldn’t be trolling you if you weren’t such a sore winner.

      • Swiss Servator

        Your slip fixation is showing again…

      • sloopyinca

        Watch your salt intake. You’ll end up with hypertension.

  4. WTF

    Soon the color white will be banned, because racist.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Oh great, back to the 70’s color wheel.

      • WTF

        Who is not wearing the rainbow?!

      • Festus' Mustache

        OMFG

      • Rhywun

        Comedy Central gayed up their logo this morning and they’re pushing the debunked narrative that “Pride” was started by a “Black trans woman”.

        (I’d post a link but it’s impossible to find under the pile of links devoted to the rewritten “history”.)

      • Not Adahn

        Which do you like better, the taupe our the ecru? Unfortunately, they don’t make this in beige.

  5. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of clinging desperately to the narrative

    Why Trump’s focus on falling death rates could be dangerous

    President Donald Trump and Republican governors are pointing to fewer coronavirus deaths to suggest that the worst of the coronavirus pandemic has passed — and to blunt criticism that a surge of new infections in more than half the states is proof the country reopened too soon.

    But that’s a dangerous gamble. Death rates tell nothing about the current spread of the virus and only offer a snapshot of where the country was roughly three weeks ago. If the caseloads in states like Texas, Arizona and Florida are any indication, the U.S. will almost certainly see a spike in deaths in July that could undermine the entire nationwide reopening effort.

    “If you’re going to do that with the death rate, you should be prepared to look at the death rate in a month or so,” said William Hanage, an epidemiologist at Harvard’s school of public health. “You might not find it so attractive.”

    Keep rooting for the virus. It’s our only hope of dislodging President Cartoon Villain from the Oval Office.

    • Rhywun

      The MSM’s glee at pumping up the ‘vid is one of the more shocking developments of this shitty fucking year.

      • Idle Hands

        It’s only shocking in its complete and utter shamelessness. Even I didn’t imagine the breathe of their depravity and malevolence.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Orange man broke them, and they will make everybody pay for what he has done.

  6. Atanarjuat

    Gotta love that the Squaw Valley is just flippantly described as a “racist, sexist name”. Yep, those are just the facts.

    • sloopyinca

      We’re way past the pretense of objectivity.

    • straffinrun

      Better than it’s old name, “Indian Cleavage”.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Up here there is a giant fooforah about changing the name of a High School from its original to some obscure Indian dialectic which roughly translates to “Where a bear shits in the woods”. I’m not making this up.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Minnesoda banned indian nicknames from high school sports in the ’90s. Then schools on the res had to petition to keep their names. Mahnomen up on the White Earth res was allowed to remain the Mahnomen Indians because they were all indian kids.

        Sort of funny that the do-gooders had to walk back their legislation because the indians actually liked their nicknames.

      • Rhywun

        They just don’t know any better. Someone should explain this to them.

      • leon

        I think the Ute tribe gets a certain amount or royalties from the University of Utah Utes.

      • Not Adahn

        I’ll bet Straff didn’t know he can speak Ute.

  7. robc

    There is a HUGE one day spike in the death numbers, but I don’t think it is real, the only state spike I can see is Delaware, who I can’t imagine effects the US total at all.

    • mrfamous

      June 25:
      “NOTE: New Jersey reported 1,854 probable COVID-19 deaths for the first time today. We have allocated the additional deaths (and an equivalent number of probable cases as every probable death is the outcome of a probable case) over New Jersey’s historical time series proportionally, based on the existing daily new death percentage increases.”

      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

      So yeah, it’s old “cases” from New Jersey without an actual positive test

    • mrfamous

      June 25:

      “NOTE: New Jersey reported 1,854 probable COVID-19 deaths for the first time today. We have allocated the additional deaths (and an equivalent number of probable cases as every probable death is the outcome of a probable case) over New Jersey’s historical time series proportionally, based on the existing daily new death percentage increases”

      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

      These are backlogged deaths without a positive test result that the state has decided were “probably” due to COVID-19

  8. The Late P Brooks

    Moto GP legend Max Biaggi

    Compared to Mick Doohan, he’s more of an ephemera.

  9. The Late P Brooks

    But it is a dude wearing makeup.

    Lou Reed?

    • Rhywun

      You could just as well pick any random dude who appeared on MTV during that decade.

      • Not Adahn

        I remember my music teacher upon seeing this CD saying “those are some beautiful men.”

      • Festus' Mustache

        Did he mince about in clogs and lisp like my 9th Grade English teacher did?

      • Not Adahn

        Actually no. He was eventually fired for banging his female students. To his credit not only were they hot, they moved in with him and formed a string trio that shared a bed.

      • Chafed

        We definitely need pics.

      • Not Adahn

        Hmm. I wonder if my yearbook has been put online yet…

      • Festus' Mustache

        Holy shit. Good answer. Good answer.

      • WTF

        I believe they were the basis for Aerosmith’s song “Dude looks like a lady”.

      • Mojeaux

        Nope. Vince Neil was.

    • Chafed

      Not since Transformer I think.

  10. Rebel Scum

    Ahead of the vote, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Democrats were working “to correct an injustice.”

    What injustice?

    • sloopyinca

      The injustice people face when they willingly move into DC, knowing full well that they were not going to have the same voting rights at people who live in states.
      Why should they have to bear consequences of their decisions? What are you, a racist?

      • Rebel Scum

        What are you, a racist?

        Well, no. Though I am wearing a Hawaiian shirt. Since people who are morons or dishonest think such shirts are racist now I figured what better time to bring back Hawaiian shirt Fridays at the office.

    • Idle Hands

      Just put it back into md where it belongs.

    • Rhywun

      “How dare the Republicans inject politics into this issue that the Democrats raise every year.”

  11. Atanarjuat

    I don’t get why newspapers paywall their content. Couldn’t they do something like TOS and make it available but offer subscription/donation packages of various levels? They have to have lost countless page views from people like me who hover over and think “nope, last time I got to read half of the first paragraph before blooey”.

    • sloopyinca

      I just assumed everybody opened those pages in private or incognito mode. That’s what I do.

      • Atanarjuat

        That works for some sites but not others for me, maybe because I can only look at the internet through a phone right now.

        Anyway, they would still have lost all the page views from boomers like my dad who don’t know about pornmode.

      • Festus' Mustache

        What is this “pornmode” of which you speak, Stranger?

      • bacon-magic

        Does not work on your Chicago Tribune links.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      It does seem backwards that when news organizations are the least-trusted they have ever been in living memory…they make you pay to read the articles that we all assume are bullshit anyway.

      • DrOtto

        Writing fiction takes creativity and should be monetarily rewarded.

    • Agent Cooper

      I had the idea to create subscription-based news aggregator that gave you so many articles a month for a certain fee.
      The problem with the current model is I don’t live in Chicago, so why the heck would I want to pay for the Trib? I just want to read one article.

      So the news aggregator would let you ‘buy’ 25 articles a month from various publications, not all the same one.

      • Rhywun

        “Microtransactions” have been just around the corner for a decade at least. I wonder what happened.

      • Mojeaux

        Like Kindle Unlimited.

  12. Rebel Scum

    Five council members who declared their intent to “end” the Minneapolis Police Department earlier this month have authored an ordinance to amend the city charter. They include Jeremiah Ellison, Alondra Cano, Cam Gordon, Steve Fletcher and Council President Lisa Bender.

    Hm…my popcorn stores are getting low.

  13. robc

    Offerman and Plaza? Somehow, that is perfect.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Yeah. Aubrey hits all the keys.

  14. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloopy!

    Jesus christ, what an insane collection of lynx you’ve curated this morning!

    From the Minneapolis cop story:

    Some people who live and work in Uptown — where 11 people were injured in a shooting last weekend — look at the recent violence in Minneapolis and question the wisdom of removing MPD.

    Uptown resident Luis Vasquez lost a friend to gun violence earlier this month. “You need the police because otherwise everything’s just … going to turn into mayhem,” Vasquez said.

    He also believes changes are needed for police, including a requirement for officers to live in the city.

    The Uptown area is hipster central, full of nice stores and trendy restaurants. When the frequent shootings were confined to the ghetto, all was well. Now, not so much. Regardless, no way this happens.

    You know, there are so many assholes making so much noise right now, I’m really grateful for Robert Smith. He’s not an asshole. He’s amazing.

    So thanks for that.

    Have a great Friday, people!

    • Festus' Mustache

      You as well, Tundra! You’re a good guy.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Dude!

        We have to live with him. We had to have the last Minnesoda Glibs meet up outdoors because Tundra’s head was already so swollen that he couldn’t make it through the coffee shop door.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      ‘I thought the defunding of police was for the other places not here!’

      NIMBYism at its finest coming up.

      • Pope Jimbo

        “I didn’t think I’d have to pay for it”

        – ACA supporter who just saw their premiums spike

    • Rhywun

      The opinions of the actual residents of the areas with the worst crime are always swept under the rug during these waves.

    • Mad Scientist

      Jesus christ, what an insane collection of lynx you’ve curated this morning!

      If you think these links are impressive, you should see the shoe collection he curates.

    • Agent Cooper

      According to their city charter, it cannot happen, unless the police are replaced with a new force.

      • commodious spittoon

        Everyone puts on a fake mustache and talks with a Swedish accent.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    The shift to the death rate most alarms public health officials who fear it is distracting the public from taking necessary precautions and allowing elected officials to punt on tough decisions.

    “They are grasping at straws to try and explain this away,” said Jeffrey Shaman, an infectious disease researcher at the Columbia University School of Public Health. “We’re looking at people picking at the margins for explanations to deny that we are seeing a surge.”

    PAY ATTENTION TO US! DO WHAT WE SAY!

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      Except it wasn’t a shift to. Many of us have been hammering on this since day one.

      By the way, even the death rate doesn’t matter all that much. We can’t prevent this virus from spreading across the country, so the only lever we get to flip is how fast it spreads.

      • straffinrun

        If it doesn’t lose potency over time, than why does it matter if we stay inside or not?

      • straffinrun

        I asked for virologist not a tautologist.

      • UnCivilServant

        STOP RESISTING!

        *bludgeons Straff*

      • Rufus the Monocled

        That’s the thing. It’s out there. It’s over. Thinking we can manage this is wrongheaded.

        What are you going to do? Keep living like this? Keep people in fear? We’re going to do serious long-term damage.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        You are correct. We already have set the economy back years and opened the door to socialistic gov—oh I see…

      • Rhywun

        Shhhh ixnay on the internationalway ommunismcay!

      • robc

        Yes, I have been using deaths since early on when I realized cases had too many issues.

        Also, the point of flattening the curve was to spread out cases, not eliminate them. Anyone not expecting a spike in cases when we opened didnt understand. It is being able to manage hospital usage that is the issue.

      • leon

        No, you don’t understand. It went from flatten curve to no one must die to no one must get sick.

    • WTF

      Since the “experts” have been incredibly wrong throughout this entire event, I fail to see why people still give them any credibility.

      • Rebel Scum
    • Apples and Knives

      Don’t know if it’s been posted here, and it’s a couple weeks old at this point, but it’s a good read. This guy makes the case that date of onset is the best measurement but the CDC stopped reporting it in April. Now the best measurements are hospitalizations and deaths and cases are completely useless for anything, as there is already high likely hood we’ve already had a couple million cases that haven’t been counted.

      https://medium.com/analyticaper/covid-19-what-the-data-tells-us-3a08e42ee36f

  16. The Late P Brooks

    The new data suggests that the sacrifices made by tens of millions of Americans who stayed at home, that cost many of them their jobs, might have been in vain.

    True, but not in the way you think, CNN.

  17. Rhywun

    That CNN article gave me a worse case of AIDS than usual.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Dark humor is the best humor. Goodun’

  18. Drake

    If you think there are ever any consequences for connected “public servants” who get caught – Howie Carr has a nut-punch for you.

    • Sensei

      That is awesome. And not in a good way…

  19. The Late P Brooks

    Across the country, as California struggles through an awful time, Disneyland put back its plans to reopen, in a symbolic illustration of the plight of an entire state — and indeed a nation that has seen leisure and frivolity disappear amid the worst domestic crisis since the Second World War.

    Gotta titillate the Doomsday larpers.

    • WTF

      Except this crisis was visited upon us by our own government.

  20. Rebel Scum

    Verizon joins list of US companies pulling adds from Facebook over its failure to crack down on hate speech – sending shares in the social media giant tumbling two percent during trading

    Verizon keeps raising my internet-only service bill. The Comcast offers I routinely get in the mail are starting to look good.

    • Drake

      I wish Verizon had laid down fiber optic in my neighborhood. I’d play them off of against Cablevision relentlessly.

    • Gustave Lytton

      That would be the Comcast that owns NBC who pushed Google to de platform The Federalist.

      Name a large corp that isn’t thoroughly penetrated by wokesters in the HR and other departments that control the company.

      • Brochettaward

        You wouldn’t be able to participate in society if you boycotted all the woke corporations.

  21. Rufus the Monocled

    Why is Verizon concerning itself with issues like hate speech?

    For the love of God….DO YOUR JOBS!

    • Rhywun

      Because they are terrified of the mob, like every other corporation out there.

      • mindyourbusiness

        Anybody know of good (and cheap, if possible) alternatives to Verizon? I’m about ready to change because their service is too damned costly.

      • Rhywun

        I use “Ting”. Super cheap. My bill is about a third of what it used to be.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I’m on Cricket. $70/month for two phones and 10G of data.

        I’m sure I could go cheaper, but most of the cheap ones are on T-mobile’s network, and I won’t give a penny to those assholes, whether directly or indirectly.

      • mindyourbusiness

        Thanks; I’ll check ’em both out. Much appreciated!

  22. Rebel Scum

    Consumer products giant Unilever said Thursday it is aiming for a “more inclusive vision of beauty” in its skin care products and will remove words such as “fair,” “whitening” and “lightening” from its products

    I’ve spent enough time with the lady in an Ulta to know that there are dozens of beauty products for all skin tones. I don’t see what the problem is and changing the words to presumably something that does not describe what it actually does is beyond parody of virtue-signalling horseshit.

    • Rhywun

      Note that they won’t stop selling those products in Asia. I guess they get woke points for pretending the products are not being used for the purpose they are being used.

      • Gustave Lytton

        “beauty white”

      • Not Adahn

        “Emblancening”

  23. The Late P Brooks

    Why is Verizon concerning itself with issues like hate speech?

    Seriously.

    “Put your phone on my network. I don’t care what you say, as long as you’re paying me to be able to say it.”

  24. Rufus the Monocled

    Re. Unilever. This is getting fucking ridiculous.

    If only I had a megaphone to tell everyone to shut the fuck up about race. It’s narcissistic retardation at this point.

    Sigh. /looks over roster of Unilever products. I think I can avoid purchasing most if not all of those in my house.

    • straffinrun

      Unilever is how we had to choose between Obama and Romney.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Isn’t Madison prog-central? And didn’t ‘peaceful protestors’ just beat up a Democrat senator yesterday?

      • robc

        People’s Republic of Madison.

    • Festus' Mustache

      It’s bullshit. Just don’t say “I toldja so!” or you’ll be shut out of the curtains of glory for a good long time. Silence is golden.

      • Apples and Knives

        Yeah, I’ll be weighing the pros and cons. 🙂 Sometimes a good “told ya” is worth the consequences!

      • WTF

        Or you could go super smug and say “Consider this a learning experience.”

      • Rebel Scum

        Having tried that it had little to no effect. The lady is still stuck in her echo-chamber.

    • Cy

      That’s a huge load of Smollet you’ve found. Madison WI? I spent a good part of my life near there. There were 2 black kids in the whole district. EVERYONE went out of their way to try to prove how not racist they were. Ignoring that, you’d be hard pressed to not find some of the nicest people on the planet it there. If you had a flat tire, a fight might break out for who was going to stop and help you fix it first.

    • Apples and Knives

      In the hours since I got shut down by the wife, I’ve read some more and it just gets fishier. Asked to describe the assailants and she said they were typical frat boys, two in black and two in “flowery shirts.” They always try to sell it a little too hard.

      I suspect since there were protests nearby on the same night, some of which involved throwing Molotovs, this girl accidentally lit herself on fire and then made shit up when she got home so mom wouldn’t get mad.

      • Sean

        I suspect since there were protests nearby on the same night, some of which involved throwing Molotovs, this girl accidentally lit herself on fire and then made shit up when she got home so mom wouldn’t get mad.

        That sounds way more probable.

      • Rhywun

        “flowery shirts.”

        The Boogaloo Bois strike again!

      • Rebel Scum

        “Now those Duke Boogaloo boys just don’t know what they got theirselves into.”

      • Rhywun

        Just a couple good ole’ bois.

    • Agent Cooper

      Does anyone know of a lighter that stays on when you remove your thumb/finger from it? I mean, unless it’s 20+ years old?

      • Rhywun

        I think they still make Zippos.

      • Tundra

        Yes. I carry a fairly new one.

        One of the best tools ever created by man.

      • bacon-magic

        I like zippos but dislike the taste of the fluid on my smokables.

      • Apples and Knives

        In fact, just throwing away a Zippo seems like one of the least likely parts of the story.

    • Agent Cooper

      My wife was upset about the Bubba Wallace thing. I told her “give it a few days.”

      I loved texting her the USA Today story.

    • commodious spittoon

      Why is “some people fake scandals for personal aggrandizement” such a shocking and unbelievable premise (never mind the recent, high-profile examples of such), but a racially-motivated assault in the heart of progressive cosmopolitanism raises absolutely no eyebrows?

      If you’re still falling for these hoaxes, you’re in on the hoax. Maybe not directly, but you’re no longer a bystander.

      • commodious spittoon

        I should say, “if you’re falling for THE hoaxes,” this might not be one.

  25. Festus' Mustache

    Anecdata – The cops are swarming like bees up here, pulling over people right and left. We’ve got our own policing problems with regard to “racist” attitudes and in custody deaths. I notice that for every stop there are at least two and sometimes three police vehicles. Covering their asses or frightened little mice? Why not both?

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Why are they doing that?

      • Festus' Mustache

        They feel threatened by the media narrative and are turtling up. There’s been a few high profile cases wherein suspects died in custody and they don’t want to be next on the chopping block. It’s bad. They already treated citizens as the other. This shit has made them close ranks.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Canadians. Without America, how would we live with ourselves facing our problems!

        The other day I had a doctor friend chime in (about Covid) with a ‘get a load of the shitshow down south!’

        Two things that irked me about that. One, Canada’s numbers aren’t good enough to garner that kind of comment. For example, our death rate (deaths into cases I use) is higher than America’s. I understand the notion of ‘well, we have 8500 deaths ergo America should have 10x times that or 85 000 and not 126 000’ but it’s half the picture. The death per million cases are, what, around 350 for USA and 225 for Canada? Whatever. I still think the comment was dumb. But he says a loooootttt of dumb shit.

        But what bugs me about his little passive-aggressive anti-Americanism is BOTH his kids went to school in the USA stating when they were teenagers and still live there.

        If he hates America so much why does he leave them in the States? And I did slyly remind him of that little nugget. He skated around it.

        Hypocritical if you ask me.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        And never mind that where we live in Quebec, we were hit pretty damn hard relatively speaking. We’re not as bad as NY/NE but right in the mix. I can understand if we had little numbers maybe some of the ‘bragging’ could be tolerated but I think it’s uncalled for and dumb.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Yeah. No need to dance on someone else’s Grandma’s grave. I get it but the urge to point and laugh is nearly irresistible. What the fuck do we know? He’s a “Health Professional”! He’s a TOP MAN.

      • commodious spittoon

        I don’t trust that cases aren’t overcounted here and undercounted elsewhere. The childhood mortality stat springs to mind.

      • Rhywun

        Here they’re just quitting and/or refusing to do their jobs. I guess that’s one way to “defund the police”.

  26. Rebel Scum

    Squaw Valley is considering changing its name.

    Why? I see zero reason why “squaw” is offensive in any way.

    reckoning with its history on race and the honoring of problematic figures of the past

    “Problematic”…It is almost like sentiments change over time but we should still be able to recognize the accomplishments of significant historical figures despite whatever failings they had that violate our modern, delicate sensibilities. It is called “context”, you retards.

    • Q Continuum

      Welcome to being an egg.

    • Juvenile Bluster

      I hate to say it, but this was probably right. I mean, not because Song of the South (Ed note: Disney should never have memory holed that movie. Back in the early naughts WB put out collections of Looney Tunes on DVD, including a lot of the World War II era ones, with their obvious, shall we say, unflattering portrayals of Japanese, with Leonard Maltin giving an introduction to talk about how they were products of the time. There’s no reason Disney couldn’t have done the same with Song of the South).

      But this has been in the works for a while, ever since they finished retooling the Norway boat ride at Epcot into Frozen-themed. Very few people nowadays know of anything from SOTS, except for the song. Princess and the Frog probably makes more sense for the theme now.

      • Cy

        To me, there’s a big difference between creating something new in the spirit of a different point of view or even putting a plaque up at the entrance to the ride than just outright replacing the ride to simply appease the race baiters.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Is it possible to watch it at all?

      • leon

        I didn’t even know splash mountain was themed.

      • Agent Cooper

        It as Brer Rabbit, et al in it. No Uncle Remus in sight.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Should rename it the “Ginger Lynn Wild Ride”.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      They were remodeling splash mountain to retheme it to Princess and the Frog when I was at DisneyWorld in February. The decision was made years ago. Non-story.

      • Agent Cooper

        Stupid though, considering the Louisiana delta is flat.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Win-win for Disney. They get rid of old, outdated, irrelevant props on an aging ride. They also get to use it for PR to show how inclusive they are.

    • Ted S.

      What does Sidney Poitier have to do with Splash Mountain?

  27. Rufus the Monocled

    “Daniel Dale
    Replying to
    @ddale8
    Trump on why it’s not racist to say that cities like Detroit, Chicago, Oakland and Baltimore are “like living in hell” and worse than Afghanistan, Honduras and Guatemala: “Frankly, Black people come up to me and say, ‘Thank you. Thank you for saying it.'”

    It’s people like Dale that help prevent solving the crime problem in those places.

    • Brochettaward

      They’re living in literal food deserts.

      • Nephilium

        What, haven’t you seen the nature recovering libraries and schools in Detroit? They’ve got a better chance of growing food there then in the CHOP.

    • WTF

      Well, it’s not racist, because the operative issue is “Democrats have run these places for many decades”, not “black people live there”.

    • Idle Hands

      Lmao the left really hates when Trump hijacks their messaging for his own ends.

      • Festus' Mustache

        You could have left off the last seven words of your comment and it would be perfectly cromulent.

      • WTF

        Or even the last nine words.

    • Drake

      Who thought we would force our women to cover their faces and keep their distance this soon? I thought we were a few decades away from Sharia Law.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      What does she really feel about homos?

    • Festus' Mustache

      Referencing a prior comment, someone is an egg!

  28. Rebel Scum

    VA judge is asshole.

    A judge has denied a lawsuit filed by gun-rights groups challenging the constitutionality of Virginia’s new one-handgun-a-month law.

    The lawsuit was filed on in Goochland Circut Court by Valerie Trojan, Brothers n Arms, Virginia Citizens Defense League, Gun Owners of America and the Gun Owners Foundation. The suit names the Superintendent of the Virginia State Police, Col. Gary Settle, as the defendant.

    “Judge Timothy K. Sanner in Goochland Circuit Court agreed with Attorney General Herring and denied the gun lobby’s attempts to block the one-handgun-a-month law from going into effect on July 1. Judge Sanner found that the gun lobby was unlikely to succeed in convincing the court that the law was unconstitutional,” a release said.

    Missing is the part where the judge apparently compared one handgun a month to one bible a month saying that would also not be unconstitutional.

    “Virginia had a one-handgun-a-month law in effect for nearly twenty years that was extremely successful in keeping firearms out of our communities and out of the hands of dangerous individuals.

    As if we didn’t already know what the real goal is.

    • EvilSheldon

      This was a decision on a stay of the law, not on the merits of the law itself.

      But yes, the judge is an asshole, and Virginia is probably a lost cause. Get out if you can.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Yup.

    • Juvenile Bluster

      I had to check on the second one before realizing it was the Bee.

    • Brochettaward

      I think we’ve all been blind to Q’s obvious racism for too long. Where are the women of color titties, Q? Where are they?

  29. The Late P Brooks

    It does seem backwards that when news organizations are the least-trusted they have ever been in living memory…they make you pay to read the articles that we all assume are bullshit anyway.

    Pay for the privilege of reading Krugabe’s unhinged nonsensical gibbering? Who wouldn’t want to do that?

    • kbolino

      It’s possible that a news clearinghouse, like a streaming service but for newspaper and magazine articles, could do well. Pull in writing from a variety of different sources, charge a flat subscription fee, and let subscribers read as much as they want. This would allow Krugman’s gaggle of idiots to get what they want and people who think Krugman is a mouthbreather to get what they want, all while ensuring authors get paid.

      However, I don’t see this working in today’s cancel culture, or at least the services would have to pick sides.

      • blighted_non_millenial

        I don’t pay for it but isnt’ that Apple’s subscription newsfeed?

      • kbolino

        Possibly, yeah. Looks like Google is trying to do the same. But I don’t know how successful these ventures will be, as people don’t trust the names behind them.

    • Sean

      Chafed. Duh. It’s part of his Glibfit routine.

      • straffinrun

        Ouch. Gofundme for lotion for Chafed?

  30. Brochettaward

    NFL player goes to Chipotle with four of his home boys, another customer complains because they’re probably being assholes, manager ends up kicking them out. What happens? You already know the answer:

    The CEO of Chipotle has promised an investigation after Colts linebacker Darius Leonard said he was racially profiled at a restaurant in Florence, South Carolina.

    Leonard said on Instagram he and four others, all people of color, were having a meal when the Chipotle manager approached his table with a “terrible attitude” and was “very disrespectful,” telling them that another customer had complained about them. Leonard said he was then kicked out.

    “That’s what being black in America is right now,” Leonard said. “Us not even doing anything wrong, going out to eat with your family, just trying to spend a little bit of quality time, and you can’t even enjoying eating anymore.”

    After Leonard’s post got attention on social media, Chipotle released a statement from its CEO vowing to take the matter seriously.

    “We are currently investigating the incident involving Darius Leonard in Florence, South Carolina,” Chipotle CEO Brian Niccol said. “We have a zero tolerance policy for discrimination of any kind and we have suspended our manager while we conduct a thorough investigation. I’ve personally reached out to Darius and I’m committed to ensuring the appropriate action is taken once the investigation concludes.”

    The 24-year-old Leonard was born and raised in South Carolina. He is a Pro Bowler heading into his third season with the Colts.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/06/26/chipotle-promises-investigation-after-darius-leonard-says-he-was-racially-profiled/

    Why does your investigation need to start with a suspension of your employee, assholes?

    • leon

      Maybe the manager was just trying to save Leonard’s life by getting him out of Chipotle.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Sounds like Leonard was wrapped too tight.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Amazing how assholes control the narratives now. Imagine you come from a family that teachers traditional values. Dad says to the kid it’s good and healthy to go get a job. Start becoming independent and contribute to society. Kid is responsible goes and gets a job and is hired. Then a bunch of assholes act like assholes in the store, kid follows policies and procedures, but because the incident involves race and scum bags who use the race card, kid gets a different lesson in life we was properly taught.

      Nice way to ferment cynicism .

      A company that doesn’t have the back of its employees and engages in virtue signalling is a terrible company with its priorities screwed on wrong.

      In attempting to act like ‘moral corporate citizens’ they actually advocate the opposite.

      Assholes indeed.

      • Rhywun

        Like I said above, they’re terrified of the mob. They are just being rational.

    • Not Adahn

      He is a Pro Bowler heading into his third season with the Colts.

      Football and bowling! He should probably try and get into baseball too, it seems to be a fairly easy one if Jordan, Sanders, and Jackson are any indication.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      “Chipotle CEO Brian Niccol said. “We have a zero tolerance policy for discrimination of any kind and we have suspended our manager while we conduct a thorough investigation. I’ve personally reached out to Darius and I’m committed to ensuring the appropriate action is taken once the investigation concludes.”

      Brian (to manager): Get out.
      Manager: B-b-but I followed the policy.
      Brian: OUT!
      Manager: This is not fair!
      Brian (to Darius. Wipes his own tear, and strokes Darius’s hair gently): Are you ok Darius? Show us where the mean manager touched your soul?
      Darius (points to tummy): Here…..now get me some of that black bean stuff.
      Brian: Of course. On the house!

      Manager looking on in disbelief.

      Brian (to manager): DIDN’T I TELL YOU TO LEAVE?

      • Festus' Mustache

        You have a gift, Friend. It must come from hanging around little kids everyday.

    • WTF

      Yeah, I’m sure they were asked to leave for no other reason than being black. Imma call bullshit right now. And when we find out they were behaving like assholes, the narrative will be that restaurants need to learn to respect black culture and black bodies ways of being.

    • leon

      (((you))) are useful whenever we call right wingers Nazis

      • Juvenile Bluster

        Neontaster on Twitter calls us Schrodinger’s Whites. We’re white when it fits the left’s narrative, and we’re non-white when it fits the left’s narrative.

      • Seguin

        I’ve heard Asians referred to as same.

    • Not Adahn

      It’s also racist. Just like criticizing any of The Squad.

      • Rhywun

        Or criticizing a “festive atmosphere” that is mostly full of white trust-fund kids.

  31. Not Adahn

    Get woke, go broke watch your stock price drop like a stone. I’m sure their shareholders are just thrilled.

    If I had any confidence in humanity, I’d say this was an indication that companies have realized that FB ad buys were an inefficient use of funds. However, ISTR one of those “network analyses” that showed people in advertising were more insular and further left than even academics.

  32. Rebel Scum

    I fail to see the problem with a song about the national symbol of the country.

    A semi-professional soccer team in Oklahoma will no longer play the national anthem before matches. Instead – the Tulsa Athletic will play Woody Guthrie’s “This Land is Your Land.”

    The Athletics are part of the National Premier Soccer League. The team says they dropped The Star Spangled Banner to create a more inclusive environment.

    “From our beginning, we have developed a culture of inclusion and acceptance at Tulsa Athletic,” team owner Sonny Dalesandro said in the press release. “We live in a country that allows us to freely speak our voice. We utilize this right as a club to continually try and improve our team and community. We believe ‘This Land Is Your Land’ not only captures a powerful patriotic sentiment, but that it does so in a far more inclusive way. The song speaks to this country being built and shared by every person of every race, ethnicity, religion and sexual orientation. It represents a future Tulsa Athletic is committed to striving for.”

    • Rufus the Monocled

      It’s amazing how no is standing up for America.

      This is bananas. Don’t they see they’re being made useful idiots?

      • Festus' Mustache

        They already did to us. Chum in the water.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Don’t they see they’re being made useful idiots?

        After 30 years of leftist hegemony in education and mass media, I can confidently say that they don’t even know what a useful idiot is.

    • leon

      The Athletics are part of the National Premier Soccer League. The team says they dropped The Star Spangled Banner to create a more inclusive environment

      I really don’t care about playing the anthem before events, i think it’s a bit to nationalistic for me. That being said you fuck off about the anthem being “non-inclusive”. I don’t even know how it could be exclusive except against those damn gits the British.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Pretty soon they’re gonna discover the revolutionary army had a queer-tansgender unit but it was suppressed by white supremacy.

        ‘We must make our history inclusive. It’s the only way.’

        Airbrush American history. Here’s an illustration.

        https://twitter.com/jason_patterson/status/653653799853236224

      • Rhywun

        it’s a bit to nationalistic for me

        I’ll take that over Guthrie’s commie shit.

      • leon

        The song is awful. Like i said yesterday. Commies who had America suggest we replace anthem with commie songs. I imagine soon they say we should remove independence day and make May Day a federal Holiday.

    • Viking1865

      Francis Scott Key was a slaveowner and said racist things about black people. So we have to throw out the anthem. This brought to you by people who watch Roman Polanski and Woody Allen movies produced by Harvey Weinstein, voted for Hillary Clinton, and think Chris Brown and Cardi B songs are totally fine.

    • Apples and Knives

      Good! They’re the rivals of my home team, LR Rangers, and I welcome another reason to hate them.

    • Mad Scientist

      A national anthem, in which we all stand up in lock step and mouth the words to a bad song together, is antithetical to what this country stands for. I can’t remember the last time I participated in that farce.

      • Mojeaux

        I can’t not. I’m nationalistic/tribal that way and I just can’t help it.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        This

        “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice.” – Einstein

      • Tundra

        I sing along with O Canada.

        Great anthem.

      • Rebel Scum

        I can’t remember the last time I participated in that farce.

        I don’t participate in that either. But it is still dumb to change away from the anthem, especially for some commie horseshit.

      • Rhywun

        Meh. It’s part of most people’s human nature & I won’t fault them for that.

  33. Juvenile Bluster

    Am I the only person who feels this way about policing?

    1. Modern policing is systemically racist. There is absolutely no denying this. This does not mean that individual officers are necessarily racist (the same attitude is shown by black officers!), but the way policing is done is certainly racist. Black people are much more likely to be randomly accosted on the street (see Bloomberg and De Blasio’s favorite stop and frisk program).

    2. If all we say is “policing is racist” and we try to attack the problem from that angle, we’re never going to make a single step towards actually solving the problem. Removing QI, getting rid of police unions, having settlements come out of the police budget (or individual police malpractice insurance) and getting rid of incentives for police to have contact with people in the first place (by getting rid of every victimless crime, like laws against drugs and prostitution) are the only ways this is ever going to be solved.

    • Drake

      1. The question of “is policing racist” in big cities opens a box most people would rather keep closed. Once you start looking at black crimes statistics it gets ugly and I haven’t heard answers (beyond ending the welfare state).

      2. The issue was successfully hijacked by Marxist-front groups. The reform should be happening at the city and state levels but isn’t. Congress will make sure nothing comes of their reform.

      QI certainly needs a major overhaul. We can’t have police if they are personally sued every time they make a legitimate arrest, but their protection obviously goes way too far. The real solution is to kill the police unions but nobody has the will or balls to do so.

    • straffinrun

      In my experience it’s (it was?) true. More than a couple experiences driving around with my black friend showed that. The solution will be dumbass quotas where police aren’t allowed to exceed a cumulative number of arrests as a department that doesn’t correspond to the demographic percentages. Welcome to the upcoming age of affirmative arrests.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        Yeah, that’s my point, kinda. For a lot of people it’s not about reforming the police, it’s spreading out the terrible policing.

      • leon

        Unfortunately “Crabs in a Bucket” is a common attitude/sentiment. When there is an injustice, the answer never ends up being “right the wrong” because that would decrease government power. The only option to get equality is then “Make everyone equally a slave”.

      • straffinrun

        Crack down on the people who use clearly used race as a pretext to fuck with people. It’s not as fun or as collectivisty as just being full blown racists in response, though. Simple answers to complex problems are the worst and so you can bet the politicians will do that.

    • kbolino

      I think policing is biased against the poor. In urban areas, both crime and police are more common than in the suburbs or the rural areas. Black Americans as a demographic group are disproportionately poor and disproportionately live in urban areas compared to the rest of the population. The Peelian principles have long since been abandoned, by the police, the politicians, and the voters (though not necessarily the residents). There is a political demand for policing provided by the state, and there are conflicts along class and faction lines that the state claims to stand above but actually depends on to maintain power, or at least to keep the current crop of officials in office. At a national level, we gloss over the regional and smaller differences and group into “blue tribe” and “red tribe” but it’s actually far more complicated than that. Politics as status did not begin with social media, though it certainly seems to have flourished with it.

      I don’t think every racist has been stamped out from the police force, but I also don’t think the bias they exhibit on a regular basis is racial in nature. With few exceptions, they are not beating black men in business suits, they are not pulling over black grandmas plodding down the road, and they aren’t raiding the favored hangouts of middle-class suburban black kids. And you can replace black with any other race or ethnicity in this formulation, and that in turn plays a big part in how police are perceived both by their supporters and their detractors.

      • Agent Cooper

        Watching Live PD has proven to me that a majority of policing is daycare for stupid people. That’s it. They tend to be poor, probably because they are fairly stupid. Like, too stupid to ever have a career or any financial security whatsoever. It’s certainly sad.

      • Festus' Mustache

        It’s nature and nurture. I know at least a dozen guys that have never moved more than a mile from their parent’s home. They’ve had kids out of wed-lock and are divorced from the baby momma. We grew up pretty middle class. All of these fellows had motorbikes, snow machines, dinner every second Friday at the Keg and yet they still wound up a bunch of losers, just like me. When we first came up there was no room for us. I can count on one hand the people that were able to make a normal life of it. From boardrooms to shirtsleeves in one generation.

    • Mojeaux

      You are not the only one who feels this way.

      Yesterday, Mr. Mojeaux had a conference call with his company on racism and whatnot. He was talking about how he didn’t feel like he had any privilege just because he’s white because he grew up poor in a Hispanic gang-controlled neighborhood and got beat up and stolen from daily.

      I said I get the concept of white privilege and I do think it exists. He looked at me as if I’d turned into a different woman. But, I said, two things:

      1) So what. It’s a burden to bear just like anybody else’s burdens. People in Africa have burdens. Women in Islamic communities have burdens. You’re dealt a hand. Some people have better hands than others. Some people have aces up their sleeves. Some people who have good hands don’t know how to play them correctly. My answer to white privilege? Sure, but so what.

      2) A pretty black woman will be hired before an ugly fat white woman every time. Anybody disputing that there is “beauty privilege” is off their rocker. This is what feminist movements know all too well. What was it Rush says? The feminist movement was formed to give ugly women access to mainstream media. I may have gotten that wrong. Conservative women are generally attractive. Lefty women not so much. You could argue that with lefties, it’s their personalities that make them ugly, but that’s a limited effect. You could argue that being pretty has its own equal problems, and you would be right. There again, you play the hand you’re dealt.

      In short, everybody’s got their burdens, which were dumped on their shoulders at birth.

      • straffinrun

        The problem with “White Privilege” is that: 1. It prioritizes whiteness as an advantage over other traits like intelligence, conscientiousness, grit which clearly have a bigger effect and 2. It defines privilege as being in a state absent of oppression. No one is responsible for or owes a debt for not being oppressed. That meaning could be extended to a dude living in a log cabin vs someone living in the inner city. No one logically believes the guy in the cabin by himself owes anybody a thing.

      • Mojeaux

        I was with you till you said “logically.” We aren’t dealing with logic here. We’re dealing with people who want what other people have. That turns otherwise intelligent people into illogical animals.

      • straffinrun

        Surprised you were with me given my unbreakable use of double negatives. I can’t not continue using them. Love them.

      • Mojeaux

        Double negatives are useful when used properly.

        “I can’t NOT do X” = “I am compelled to do X,” but it packs more emotion/nuance.

      • Sensei

        In straff’s defense double negatives are used extensively in Japanese.

        When you want to tell somebody “something must be done” you say “something must not not be done.”

      • Mojeaux

        That’s a very passive construction.

      • Sensei

        The language and culture are intertwined.

        Passive voice is also used extensively. That way nobody is forced to personally take responsibility. Things are qualified frequently too.

        For example you or I would say, “Hitler was a evil.” The natural Japanese for that would be more likely to be, “I think Hitler was evil.”

      • Mojeaux

        The language and culture are intertwined.

        That occurred to me when I read the double negative as a passive construction.

      • EvilSheldon

        The real problem with white privilege, really with privilege in general, is that it is completely nebulous in application. It’s a trick bag that you can’t argue your way out of.

      • kbolino

        The difficulty with a concept like “white privilege” is proving it exists independent of other possible forms of bias and privilege, and to show it has consistent predictive power outside a handful of cherry picked encounters. I do think there is something to the notion of privilege, but I also think it is vastly situational and quite a bit more nuanced than what we’re being sold. If you take mass at a Catholic Church and you have no idea what you’re doing, you’re probably going to get sidelong glances. Does that mean “Catholic privilege” exists? Or is it just that, in that particular situation, you’re an outsider and it’s easy for insiders to tell? If you and a buddy go out for a joyride, create a ruckus, and get arrested, but your family posts bail quickly while his family can’t or his bail gets set higher because he has a record, isn’t that a form of privilege? But if you’re both demographically indistinguishable, how does that privilege get called?

      • straffinrun

        That brings up definitions again. Depending on who you talk to, “white privilege” means different things. I draw the line at people that claim a stranger who did nothing to them owes them for what other people did.

      • kbolino

        Replacing equality with “equity” is the more dangerous application of this theory of “white privilege”. Not only do you have a form of “privilege” that can’t be consistently or wholly defined, not only are you not allowed to challenge the notion nor appeal to nuance, but moreover you owe everyone who claims to lack this alleged form of privilege some compensation for it, whether it be in money, status, position, power, or some other form. When you really boil it down, it’s just tribalism with an extremely complicated rhetorical system of justification built up around it.

      • straffinrun

        No argument from me on that. That nebulous sin that you somehow or some way responsible for and never washes off…
        Yeah, that’s up there with Maoism.

      • leon

        They already openly call it “Original Sin”. They just have no redemption mechanism. Because the philosophy isn’t about lifting people up, but about enslaving them to the ones in charge.

      • straffinrun

        I just submitted an article on this topic and how “God in the gaps” has been replaced with “Racism in the gaps” (Not mine, can’t recall who said that first). How to think about people and react when you are a minority. Keep an eye open if it gets carried.

      • Mojeaux

        The nitpicking over what is and is not, to me, is a railcar siding where we can sit and discuss the trains passing us by.

        As Jarflax said in a previous thread about the noose, the question isn’t “Is it a noose?” The question is, “So what?”

        My point is, let’s just say, yes, black people get passed over for white people all the time and/or black people are disproportionately disadvantaged (Jim Crow, the War on Poverty [see LBJ’s strategy], affirmative action, gun control, and other government regulations designed to keep black people oppressed.*

        The question then becomes, “So what?”

        In the matter of policing, yes, there are things that MUST be done because they’re generally assholes. If you’re “one of the good ones” who doesn’t tattle on the bad apples, you’re not “one of the good ones.” You’re an asshole. Balko was fighting that fight alone for a long time.

        I also think that the black community doesn’t value its women at all, or else Breonna Taylor would have been the face of this movement and not George Floyd. She SHOULD have been, but she isn’t. Why not? A male thug is murdered, everybody riots. A sleeping female murdered and she gets an hour of air time.

        *There is a social scientist whose name I cannot remember who wrote a book that claimed that society would have integrated and sorted it all out organically without affirmative action and the War on Poverty, and capitalism was the answer to the problem. I don’t remember if he posited that it was deliberate or a well-intentioned blunder, but we know what it was.

      • Don Escaped MLB

        value its women

        There are four decent women for each decent man, “race” notwithstanding. As far as markets go, this one is a horrorfest.

        If your daughter meets a guy with a steady job and only two or three bad habits, don’t say a word.

      • kbolino

        I think acceding too many premises unchallenged boxes you into having to accept their conclusions as well. Though, that mentality too presupposes some kind of logic behind it all.

        That having been said, I’m not sure I agree with your statement about the role of women. In many poor urban black households, and quite a few households that are not poor, not urban, not black, or some combination thereof, women are the breadwinners, the ones who bring stability, and the ones who show maturity and actually enter adulthood. There is an expectation that men are expendable, unreliable, hedonistic, and perpetually act as children. This is not, as some may think it, a women-did-this-to-men arrangement, as many men are happy to revel in this culture and use its low expectations to their advantage. There is also an aspect of machismo to it, “fuck that bitch I can do what I want”, and so on that, while seemingly empowering, is really just self-destructive.

        I don’t know why Floyd gets more attention than Taylor, but I didn’t understand why Michael Brown or Freddie Gray or Trayvon Martin got more attention than Tamir Rice (though I live near Baltimore and that may play a role in Gray’s case). I’d like to suppose random chance over malicious motive, but after a few iterations that’s kind of hard to do. I think men get chosen because their cases tend to be more controversial, and the controversy is the point. Shooting an innocent woman elicits great sympathy, which makes for a short news cycle and a quick resolution. Shooting a man with a checkered past and who shows some aggression in his final moments gives so much more opportunity for disagreement that it can get more attention and less resolution.

      • leon

        ^^^ This. If it is something disagreeable, then you get to rile people up about all the “White Supremacists” who disagree, and see this is why we need to elect [insert D candidate].

      • Mojeaux

        role of women

        I specifically did not use the word role. I used the word value.

        Yes, black women do all that. Okay. Does anybody care or do they expect it and shrug when something happens to their breadwinner?

        Black women are not valued as wives and mothers, much less breadwinners. They aren’t taken care of as they properly should be.

        I’m not being flippant when I say, see: “No Scrubs”

        Too many black women do not value themselves because their community doesn’t, and they will take the scrubs.

      • kbolino

        Well, men aren’t valued as fathers or husbands in these cases, either. In fact, they’re so not valued as such that they are not even expected to make the token effort. The relationships between the sexes have become very atomistic and transactional. Men don’t police men, men don’t police women, women don’t police women, and women don’t police men. Oh sure, there’s lots of bickering but little in the way of long-term interpersonal consequences (vs. long-term consequences more generally, of which there are many).

        Put another way, I don’t think men are valued more. I think they are valued the same, which is not discordant with your analysis: both sexes are undervalued.

      • Mojeaux

        That’s true, about black men not being valued at all.

        Now I’m thinking this is a chicken-and-egg question.

      • leon

        But i think Michael Malice hit on something important related to this. These more “controversial” shootings, like Trayvonn Martin, are controversial, because there is a fundamental value difference. There are the people who say “You should let the guy beat you half to death, and possibly to it, rather than shoot the kid. And there’s the people who say, i don’t care if “he’s just a kid”, if you try to beat me to death, i’m going to kill you if i can.

      • kbolino

        I think value differences play a part but I don’t think the values are always so culture neutral.

        Scene, Appalachia: Cop goes to arrest suspect, suspect resists, puts cop in perceived mortal danger, cop shoots and kills suspect

        Response: He deserved it, he probably beats his wife and burns crosses, smart people obey police

        Scene, Rust Belt City: Cop goes to arrest suspect, suspect resists, puts cop in perceived mortal danger, cop shoots and kills suspect

        Response: Unacceptable use of force, he was just about to turn his life around, the police are racist

        (Of course, it is very important to qualify that the respondent is meant to be the same here; if you look at responses from different people they will not match the above patterns necessarily)

      • EvilSheldon

        It does make perfect sense, from the perspective that postmodern identity politics is intended to make people psychologically weak and easy to victimize.

      • Not Adahn

        I do think there is something to the notion of privilege

        I don’t. To the extent that there is anything true about the concept of privilege, it is completely indistinguishable from being the norm. Which you may have noticed it a term that has been completely tabooed. It is impermissible to describe any trait as “normal,” it must be redefined as just one of many variants no more likely or worthy of consideration than any other. In fact, to the extent that you even recognize that such a trait was ever cinsidered standard, you must actively discriminate against it so as to stigmatize it and make restitution for past wrongs. You must put MORE urinals in the women’s restroom than in the men’s, because to do otherwise is to imply that it is normal for men but not women to piss standing up.

        Where “privilege” is true, it is non-unique.
        Where “privilege” us unique, it is untrue.

      • kbolino

        I think we are not in disagreement here. Privilege, as in some unwritten difference in standing between two people based upon some a priori characteristic is as old as man, and indeed older than that. Chimps have privilege structures. However, I don’t think that invalidates the idea, it simply makes it much more complicated than we’re led to believe.

      • Not Adahn

        My objection may be more aesthetic? I don’t see renaming an existing concept as creating a new concept. Or having renamed a concept makes it worthy of new consideration.

        It would be like a Washington Post article describing a new sexual technique wherein genital stimulation occurs by by placing the penis in contact with the interior of the vagina, as opposed to the mouth or anus. No matter what name they give to this, it doesn’t make it a new technique, nor is it a mandate to reconsider our relationship with sex or its place in society.

      • kbolino

        I think that’s fair. I don’t think norm and privilege are interchangeable, if I understand your argument, though. Though I’d agree/contend there is a strong interplay between them.

      • Not Adahn

        I don’t think norm and privilege are interchangeable,

        In what way are they not?

        In every example of privilege that I’ve been given (other than absolute racist crackpottery) it always comes down to the people in power look like you.” or “You were raised in an English speaking family” or “this interface was designed to be used by someone with eyesight and two functioning hands.”

        In every case, “privilege” is a renaming of “matching the default option.” Which is synonymous with “normal.”

      • UnCivilServant

        In that case you have allowed people to redefine the language.

        Being Normal is not a privilege, and to allow it to be redefined as such is to concede massive ground to those seeking to destroy normal.

      • straffinrun

        It’s a verbal sleight of hand. Privilege doesn’t mean to me (or most people) what it means to them.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Redefining terms for verbal advantage is what they do.

        You’re so busy trying to keep up with the shifting definitions that you can’t effectively argue against their primary principles.

      • Rhywun

        Reminded of—how does it go?

        “Finish school. Get a job. Get married.”

        That’s where most of your “privilege” comes from.

      • Agent Cooper

        I told my wife our kids are mainly privileged due to the fact that their parents aren’t fuck-ups.

      • Mojeaux

        So, I feel that Mr. Mojeaux and I have fucked up; therefore, our kids are not privileged.

        Yet, when I look at what they DO have, they’re leagues ahead of us in terms of possessions, space, and freedom/liberty.

        For instance, they each have their own bathrooms (well, this house was the fuckup), which they know other kids don’t have their own bathrooms, but they don’t FEEL it. To them, it’s normal. But they complain about their rooms.

        One thing they do understand that they have more of is freedom/liberty to play (when they were younger) and go do what other kids don’t get to do at a younger age. They do, in fact, thank us for that every time they run up against kids (a whole lot of them) who are barely let out of the house.

        But the problem is, we are have-nots in a school district of haves, “have-not” being relative, of course. So they see what other people have that we can’t give them and feel put-upon.

        We are trying to prepare them for being out on their own when they’re 18, but they don’t understand why because their friends’ parents haven’t talked to them about it at all. I try to explain THAT kind of freedom to my kids, but they don’t understand. They view us as trying to get rid of them (not true), while their friends seem to get to stay at home indefinitely, and we view it as trying to get them launched properly and at an age where they can screw up and recover. So that makes us question ourselves and our outlook.

        They have privilege. They don’t see that they do because it’s not the kind of privilege they (think they) want.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        They view us as trying to get rid of them (not true), while their friends seem to get to stay at home indefinitely

        That is… troubling. Not on an individual level, but on a societal one. If we’re getting to a point where our culture sees failure to launch as the desirable goal… Woof.

      • Mojeaux

        Trashy, yes, I totally agree, and it’s difficult to get them to see that just because they’re out earning money to pay for their own luxuries, that’s a privilege in and of itself since many of their friends’ parents won’t LET them have jobs. It’s the “poor” kids that work and “don’t get” to go to college.

        XX absolutely loathes school, though she is looking forward to her IT trade school next year. She loves her job at Walmart and is eyeballing management. She just got a promotion and a raise.

        XY doesn’t hate school, but he sees it as a social club. He does his work as fast as possible then socializes. He wants a job because I took his lawnmowing business away from him, but few people hire 14yos, even though they’re legally allowed to.

      • Cy

        “but few people hire 14yos, even though they’re legally allowed to.”

        Insurance companies suck.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        And the lion’s share of the rest comes from “Avoid divorce. Spend less than you earn. Work hard.”

      • bacon-magic

        So burdens are equatable to privilege?

      • Mojeaux

        Ummmmm lemme think about that for a bit. First instinct is to say yes.

      • Mojeaux

        Okay, I’ve thought about it, because it just blew most of my whole premise out of the water, but that’s okay. I don’t mind being made to dig a little.

        I say most because rich black kids in expensive cars who are minding their own business still get pulled over and hassled, even when they have proven their non-poverty privilege. They still get looked at harder for shoplifting.

        With regard to “Catholic privilege”, you can call it “insider privilege” if you want, but this in-group is huge. The black population of America is, what, 13%?

        I will also agree that demographics, distribution, and concentration taken as a whole is also a factor and that as you leave the urban areas, white people are hassled equally as a percentage.

        So I circle back to my original question: So what?

      • Agent Cooper

        “I say most because rich black kids in expensive cars who are minding their own business still get pulled over and hassled, even when they have proven their non-poverty privilege. They still get looked at harder for shoplifting.”

        Bret Weinstein described this as “latent programming” — where the effects of the past are in the present but are not a malicious force designed by current society. I tend to agree with this. It sucks. I don’t know how to fix it.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I’ll never be anyone’s beast of burden.

      • Mad Scientist

        Your back is broad but it’s a-hurtin’?

    • Festus' Mustache

      The problem is thus. Marginalized communities want to get out from under the right boot of law enforcement (fair enough) but these same agitators want to don the left boot and do the same to their perceived enemy.

      • kbolino

        Government is all too happy to play the role of societal scale spoils system.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Reading similar from Balko, it came to me that that is Thatcher’s ‘they’d rather the poor be poorer, if it meant that the rich were less rich’ all over again.

    • Viking1865

      I think it’s racist in effect, but not in cause, if that makes sense.

      Thought experiment: all the poor black people who live in big cities trade places with the poor white people who live in rural areas. Does the NYPD or the Baltimore PD suddenly turn into officer friendly, or do they just start busting Cletus for the same shit they were busting D’Angelo for last month? My redneck cousins get into as much mischief, petty thievery, running shine or meth as any gaggle of urban youths, but they do it in a county that has 20 or so deputies on each shift to spread out and cover a huge area.

      Poor black people live in big cities that have large well funded police forces with a mandate to produce COMPSTAT numbers, and the easiest way to do that is busting poor black people for any number of crimes.

      • Cy

        Inner cities also have a huge leeches on their back of civil “service” employees who make money off of tax-… ticketing anyone they can find, mostly, poor people. The percentage of wealth stolen from these people by mostly THEIR own fellow city dwellers is ridiculous. That anyone is pointing at anyone not living in these cities and yelling ‘racism’ is ludicrous!

      • Viking1865

        Yeah the constant blaming of white Republican voters living in suburbs, exurbs, and rural areas for the actions of urban political machines that are always Democratic and often black majority gets very very old.

        It’s not 1964. It’s not Deputy Billy Bob murdering civil rights workers in Passel of Toads, MS. It’s unionized, professional police forces with Democratic mayors, city councils, commissioners, and usually in the police leadership who can’t seem to figure it out despite 20, 30, 40 years of total political control of the city.

    • Rhywun

      getting rid of incentives for police to have contact with people in the first place (by getting rid of every victimless crime, like laws against drugs and prostitution)

      This will never, ever happen. Go to some ghetto part of town and ask a random law-abiding person their opinion on this. You will get the same answer as in any tony suburb.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      The issue with “systematic racism” is that all the evidence usually comes from disparate impact analysis. If the urban black culture behaved anything like the amalgamated white culture when it comes to crime, maybe there’d be something there. As it is, there’s no way to separate the cause and effect.

      Do I think there is widespread bias against black people by the cops? Yes. Do I think it is an “earned” bias? Yes.

      Same goes for all of this other racial bullshit. There is not an apples to apples comparison available. Urban black culture is very different from most of the other cultures in the US, and it taints the analysis.

      • Chipwooder

        Yep. If the single sole determining factor were skin color, why do African and Caribbean immigrants not have the same scale of problems as the native-born black population?

      • Mojeaux

        I hate to admit this, but when I see a very very dark person speaking the Queen’s English, I just assume they’re brilliant.

      • Chipwooder

        I mean, get to know a Nigerian immigrant sometime and get his opinion of the black American community. Dollars to doughnuts, it will be exceedingly negative.

      • bacon-magic

        I worked with a Kenyan, can confirm. She was vocal about her disgust with black Americans.

      • Viking1865

        I used to get my hair cut from a Ghanian immigrant. The shit he said about American black people would have had Jesse Helms going “Alright bro, lets ease back on that a bit.”

      • kbolino

        There is some scholarly evidence that, in the first half of the twentieth century, crime rates in black communities were trending downward so consistently that by the early 1950s crime rates in black communities were often lower than in white communities, and this is all against the backdrop of blacks becoming increasingly urban so makes for an interesting sociological counterpoint to the general observation that denser population is strongly associated with higher rates of criminality. Yet blacks were still disproportionately imprisoned. I think one can make the case that, in the 1950s, policing was biased against blacks based on disproportionate impact alone.

        The problem is it’s not the 1950s anymore, Moynihan’s mid-60s The Negro Family report looks laughable in hindsight for its scary warning signs being way better than the status quo today (for whites and blacks), and we’ve had almost fifty years of the Great Society, not just in name but in descendant policy and mentality, wreaking havoc across the country. There is a great deal of research potential in identifying why this has impacted certain groups of people more significantly than others, and of course it’s entirely possible that racism plays a part, e.g. that because the Great Society came to fruition when much of American society and government was still white-dominated and prejudiced against blacks, the interaction between that and a vast welfare state was inherently toxic to blacks. Or perhaps something else entirely, or something syncretic of multiple theories, which places more emphasis on the agency of the recipients. Such research is by and large not going to be done, because it gores sacred cows and challenges accepted narratives. And even when somebody does challenge it, they often loop back to doubling down: it would have been more effective if we had done it more thoroughly or somesuch.

        And so, with the statistics we have today, it is hard to say that disparate impact proves disparate treatment. Or at least, it is hard to say that disparate impact along racial lines proves disparate treatment along racial lines. As I said above, being poor (which is as much an affectation as a state of monetary value) explains this just as well and indeed better.

      • kbolino

        Actually, we’ve had more than 50 years of the Great Society, we’re closer to 55 now than 50. And while blacks have been disproportionately imprisoned since as long as anybody was keeping statistics on it, black incarceration rates were lower in the racist 50s than today. In other words, the impact may have always been disparate but it wasn’t always this severe.

      • Festus' Mustache

        You gotta mighty purty mouth. :.)

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        I was giving a talk to my son about how to behave if he gets pulled over by a cop. I told him that because he’s well dressed, well mannered and respectful, he should be ok and might even get out of a few tickets. A well dressed, well mannered and respectful black kid probably would get worse treatment than my son, but he’s not likely to get a beatdown either. I prefer to call it the benefit of the doubt rather than privilege. Anyway, I suppose that’s a long way of saying there is a lot of factors that go into how you are treated, and skin color is only one of them.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Don’t be a little asshole to the King’s Cowboys. This is where we are, right now.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    We live in a country that allows us to freely speak our voice. We utilize this right as a club to continually try and improve our team and community.

    That’s not how “free speech” works, you numbskull.

    Now, fuck off, slaver.

    • Festus' Mustache

      “Allow?” Somebody needs to brush up on the Constitution and Magna Carta.

  35. Juvenile Bluster

    Presented without comment. Okay, presented with comment, but those are from the Twitter post I took this from.

    Deaths per 1 Million Population:

    New York (Greatest Gov Ever. Currently shaming Florida): 1,613

    Michigan (Queen Karen, NYT Glam Gal, anti-Salon nut): 614

    Ohio (First to shut it all done. Media “ideal” Repub): 239

    Florida (Every fucking thing is wrong last 4 months): 155

    • Pope Jimbo

      That Cuomo is throwing shade at Florida is bad. What is worse is that the media prints it all out verbatim. They should break out into howls of laughter when he says that shit. They should taunt him like he’s a fat kid in the Jr. High locker room after gym.

      Nope.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        But just think of all the cute moments from his brother’s “interviews” on CNN!

        Mario must be rolling over in his grave repeatedly over what became of his kids.

      • leon

        I’m not going to lie though… when i see the two together, it’s clear who the “Smart” one is.

      • Festus' Mustache

        I believe the proper usage is “smaht”. Fredo says “smaht”.

      • Chipwooder

        “Send Fredo off to do this, send Fredo off to do that! Let Fredo interview Andy. Send Fredo to cover some Mickey Mouse press conference somewhere. I’m your younger brother Andy, but I was stepped over!”

        “That’s the way Pop wanted it”

        “Well it ain’t the way I wanted it!! I can handle things, I’m smahhhht! Not like everybody says, like dumb. I’m smaht, and I want respect.”

      • Festus' Mustache

        “You broke my hearhhht”

      • Chipwooder

        How does CNN continue to escape widespread scorn and ridicule for allowing Cuomo to keep on giving his brother adulatory interviews?? A handful of lefty types have noted how stupid and absurd this is, but try to imagine what the outcry would be if Fox had one of Trump’s kids giving him periodic interviews.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Yeh well, I’m not so sure Mario was all that and a bag of chips. I’m pretty sure he was you’re typical run of the mill corrupted Democrat. I could be wrong.

        I get if one kid is a jerk off but he raised two.

      • bacon-magic

        They should taunt him like he’s a fat kid in the Jr. High locker room after gym.

        Thanks. 🙁

      • Festus' Mustache

        “I was in the pool!”

      • bacon-magic

        Dude, stop touching my moobs.

    • leon

      Its not even that this is some statistical trick by normalizing for population. Florida has more people than NY

      • Festus' Mustache

        NYC *pedant*

      • leon

        ? By 2019 estimates there are more people living in Florida than NY

      • Rhywun

        He’s right. Florida now has more people than NY State.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Feels shame. Goes to the box.

      • Rhywun

        Nah. leon’s right, they just overtook NY.

    • Rebel Scum

      Greatest Gov Ever. Currently shaming Florida

      I have grown to truly loathe that guy. Probably more than I despise his brother, Fredo.

      • Not Adahn

        My nosy neighbor lady gave me a bag of hot peppers yesterday, and told me how grateful she was that Cuomo knew just what to do and did it, saving us all from the ‘vid.

        I’m still going to use the peppers to make puerco guisada this weekend.

      • UnCivilServant

        So when is she going to disappear?

      • Festus' Mustache

        I would have smiled politely and used them to keep the fucking bears out of the garbage.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      I’ve been watching the Waco miniseries on Netflix. At the beginning they show a part of the FBI getting a bigger budget after fucking up. That’s the way I feel about CNN coverage of Cuomo. He has the worst results but he’s treated like a hero because he did something.

      It’s a little bit like Sun Tzu’s Art of War. The best generals are the ones that win without fighting. The ones that get the attention are the ones that fight.

  36. straffinrun

    When is the statue outrage mob coming for culturally appropriated hipster tattoos? Some fun drawn and quartered action in the future?

    • Gustave Lytton

      +7 ringscharcoal grill

  37. Rebel Scum

    Juicy Smolliette, is that you?

    Young says his shooting was motivated by racism and happened a block from where the teenager was killed.

    He is talking from his hospital bed at Harborview Medical Center, worried, he says, that his case isn’t being properly investigated.

    Young, 33, was alert, though in excruciating pain, he said, just two days after he was shot outside the CHOP zone.

    He heard the first shooting and decided to leave. He reached 11th and Pike when a group of men intercepted him and shot him.

    “So basically I was shot by, I’m not sure if they’re ‘Proud Boys’ or KKK,” said Young. “But the verbiage that they said was hold this ‘N—–’ and shot me.”

    He says the force was so great it pushed him onto the hood of a car.

    “And they stood over top of me and continued to fire,” he said. “I tried to protect myself and got shot in the arm. And they got away.”

    • Not Adahn

      He says the force was so great it pushed him onto the hood of a car

      He’s lucky that the boogies didn’t shoot him in the arm with a shotgun — the force of the blast would have put him through the windshield.

      • WTF

        That right there tells you it’s a lie. Because then the shooter would also be pushed back with the same force.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’ve seen what a shotgun will do to an arm at close range. There’s no being thrown around or pushed back. It just creates a hole as it passes thru.

    • Viking1865

      ““And they stood over top of me and continued to fire,” he said. “I tried to protect myself and got shot in the arm. And they got away.”

      They leaned over your prone body and shot multiple times and missed?

      • Not Adahn

        Also, he got shot in the arm after> he was shot resulting in him being knocked over. That second bullet must have gone straight through the first wound.

    • Chipwooder

      Lots of Klansman running around greater Seattle, right?

      • Cy

        That’s the goal of all of this. Keep shitting on anyone who disagrees with everything you say until someone loses their shit because they’ve been heavily marginalized and ignored by the media and the government, possibly fired by their employer and VOILA, a genuine white supremacist.

      • WTF

        Are you denying that Seattle is a hotbed of white supremacy and KKK activity? RACIST!!!11!!!

      • kbolino

        There is a vein of Calvinism* in all this too, fitting because it is so religious in nature anyway, that anybody who gets pushed over to a more extreme position was not being affected by those around them but rather “revealed” to be the unrepentant sinner irredeemable racist they always were. There is an elect of right-thinkers, and if you aren’t part of the elect then you never were and never can be and no one in the community is responsible for how they treat you since you deserve it.

        * = With apologies to actual Calvinists who likely feel this is a gross misrepresentation

    • Agent Cooper

      In both this and the Madison instances the perpetrators are claimed to be FOUR white people. I just found that interesting.

      • Not Adahn

        If it were only three, they’d lose face by being taken down by that few.

      • Mad Scientist

        Three vs. 3/5ths!

    • Apples and Knives

      How do these Boogaloos ever expect to start a new civil war if they can’t even get a witness?

  38. Mojeaux

    Good morning, sloopy and Glibbies!

    I’ve done this before but it was when I was new here and it was my first post. I have scenes from my books that are philosophical discussions (like the aforementioned one) that I think would be of interest here, but I’m hesitant because a) I’m not shilling and b) they’re out of context.

    Would you be interested in these snippets? They’re sometimes fairly long, but with the dearth of midday and evening posts, I’m feeling like they could come in handy.

    • Brochettaward

      Why would a libertarian ever apologize for shilling, anyway?

      • Mojeaux

        You always make my day.

      • Festus' Mustache

        A little hemlock in my morning tea makes me immune. Brochetta’s alright.

    • WTF

      I would love to read them.

      • Mojeaux

        Thanks!

        I just submitted it. All I had to do was write a little context paragraph.

  39. leon

    Reminder: The Media is attacking Trump because his response to Corona was a disaster, by not doing a Nationwide Shutdown order, But also Trump is a wannabe military dictator for threatening those peaceful protestors (gathering during the midst of the Corona) burning down cities.

    • The Other Kevin

      You’re overthinking this. Just start with the premise that everything Trump says or does is bad, and everything makes perfect sense.

      • Festus' Mustache

        You just need to be more philosophical about the whole shebang. “We all got’s to die someday…”

  40. Rebel Scum

    Winning hearts and minds.

    Over a dozen left-wing activists entered Pisco y Nazca Ceviche Gastrobar, a restaurant serving Peruvian cuisine with limited capacity due to coronavirus-related decrees restricting commerce.

    A male led the charge, shouting a prepared script in segments that he read off a mobile phone. His fellow protesters repeated his remarks in a mantra-esque manner.

    Below is a partial transcript edited for clarity:

    “We are here tonight while you are dining because black people are dying at the hands of the police. So, while you are dining, we are sorry for your inconvenience, but black people are dying today. While you are dining, we’re going to read you some facts about the murder of black people. We are here tonight because black lives matter. We are here tonight because black trans lives matter.”

    Apparently the restaurants patrons do not matter.

    • leon

      We are here because Black Marxist Lives Matter.

    • Brochettaward

      I’m to the point where I just want to tell these little fucks that no lives matter. They are all equally worthless.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Brochetta just became my spirit animal.

      • Mojeaux

        He makes me laugh. I know LemonGrenade thinks he’s adorable.

      • Gustave Lytton

        The avatar definitely helps.

      • Chipwooder

        Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann would be proud.

      • bacon-magic

        This is foryou

      • Mojeaux

        I believe Tres Cool ranted that a couple of days ago.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Tres rants about everything, makes fun of my name, calls his girlfriend “Jugsy” and still maintains a baby-head. I love him.

      • Mojeaux

        You are not wrong, my friend.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Literal Lol!

    • WTF

      I would shout “FACT, THE POLICE KILL MORE UNARMED WHITE PEOPLE THAN UNARMED BLACK PEOPLE!”

      • Rebel Scum

        Fact: Black people kill other black people in the many thousands (most murders by a long shot) and none of you ‘tards want to talk about that.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Same up here. Indian girls get murdered at a horrifying rate. Guess who kills most of them. That’s right. The Patriarchy.

  41. Trolleric the Goth

    excellent music choice today, that entire album is great early post-punk.

    too bad they’ve retconned “Killing an Arab”

    • Don Escaped MLB

      +1

      / Albert Camus

    • Rhywun

      too bad they’ve retconned “Killing an Arab”

      In what way? I mean, I heard the ignorant criticisms but it’s not like it doesn’t appear on all the “Best Of” albums.

      • Trolleric the Goth

        Robert’s changed it to “kissing an arab” in live performances, looks like it’s been restored since, though.

        The song was revived in 2005, when the band performed it at several European festivals. The lyrics, however, were changed from “Killing an Arab” to “Kissing an Arab”. Smith added a whole new opening verse when the band performed it at the Royal Albert Hall, London on 1 April 2006 as “Killing Another”. The “killing another” lyric was also used during the 2007–2008 4Tour. The band performed the song as “Killing an Ahab” with lyrics inspired by Herman Melville on 2011’s “Reflections” tour. During the band’s 40th anniversary tour, the lyrics and title were changed back to “Killing An Arab”.

      • Rhywun

        ?

        Good on them for growing a pair back, I guess.

    • leon

      It would have been worse if it hadn’t been for Net Neutrality.

      Which i saw someone claim the other day has ruined the internet in the US. Did i miss something? All the shittiness of the internet and “censorship” that people were bitching would happen seems to be happening from… Oh yeah the content producers that were saying how Not-Getting-Free-Access-To-Comcasts-Infrastructure would ruin the internet.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I really hope Biden makes it to the debates for my own amusement purposes.

      • Rebel Scum

        ^

        But it is kinda sad that Team Blue is so shameless as to put him up as the nominee when his mental state is clearly deteriorating. Dude should be sitting on his porch in a rocking chair, reminiscing about cornpop and calling his grandkids “lying dog-faced pony-soldiers”, not running for president. Then again, he has been a corrupt, p.o.s. pol. for decades. Fuck him.

    • Festus' Mustache

      I thought he made that faux pas months ago. This is now? (I keep asking myself that question and the answer is always “yep!”)

      • mrfamous

        Is this under the “interstate commerce” clause or the “necessary and proper” clause. I understand it’s the “FYTW” clause, but have we moved on to just dispensing with even the fig leaves of constitutionality?

      • Drake

        You would have to ask Joe and brace yourself for the gibberish.

      • Apples and Knives

        I was thinking the same thing.

    • Agent Cooper

      Worst Abe Lincoln cosplay ever.

  42. Rebel Scum

    Define “works”.

    O’Donnell said, “I wanted to get your view of what we learned about mail-in voting this week and the surge in voter turn-out that some states experienced with it.”

    Abrams said, “One, we know it works despite the protestations of the Republican Party and the Paranoia of Donald Trump, we know it works. It is safe. It is accessible. But the challenge we have is that number two, it has to be scaled. We are seeing unprecedented participation in our elections via mail-in ballots. We know that 34 states allow no excuses. Sixteen states require an excuse. But every state is going to have to have it. We know that the COVID virus is going to ramp up again in the fall, and we haven’t even made it out of the first wave. That means we have to be ready to allow mail-in voting for every voter that chooses to use it.”

    O’Donnell asked, “What is the situation with mail-in voting in what we consider the battleground states, the states that could end up deciding this election?”

    Abrams said, “It is a mix. Mail-in voting is permitted in Georgia with no excuses. We just, unfortunately, had a debacle in terms of actually managing the process, and we need to scale it up. We know that in Wisconsin, Wisconsin is one of a handful of states that requires a signature or a witness in order to— sorry, requires a witness or notary to send in your ballots. But voter participation is up dramatically. And mail-in voting is not a Democratic or Republican way of voting. But when it is convenient, we know that more Democrats are participating, and that’s shifting the landscape for the outcome in November.”

    • leon

      “It is a mix. Mail-in voting is permitted in Georgia with no excuses. We just, unfortunately, had a debacle in terms of actually managing the process, and we need to scale it up.

      we need to scale up the absolute fraud of an election.

      • Rebel Scum

        VA just changed the rule to no-excuses for mail-in ballot. VADems are also not concerned with gerrymandering anymore now that they have power (and were gaining seats while it was supposedly an issue…). Funny, that.

    • Chipwooder

      “works” mean that it is easily manipulated to benefit the Democratic Party.

      • leon

        ^^^ The people who push mail voting the most are also the ones who hate any integrity of the Voter Rolls.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        My wife was aghast when I explained how this is all gonna shake out and why. “Ballot harvesting is legal?”

        Yep, in some states it is. Doesn’t it give you that warm fuzzy feeling?

      • leon

        Yep, in some states it is. Doesn’t it give you that warm fuzzy feeling?

        This is what drives me insane. I know i shouldn’t expect consistency from anyone in politics, but Ballot harvesting was recognized as so bad by congress that they let the entire Californian delegation vote on not seating that representative from North Carolina.

      • Viking1865

        There’s no inconsistency at all. It’s very consistent. Democrats can do it, Republicans can’t. 100% consistent.

      • Festus' Mustache

        This is like trying to fence in the bull once he whiffs some estrous blood. Good fucking luck with that.

      • mrfamous

        They not only get mail-in ballots, but they’re also counted as “probable” COVID-19 deaths.

      • Cy

        That’s TRUNKS full of democratic voters! TRUNKS!

    • creech

      You know, many of our ancestors had to ride a horse 15 miles to the nearest town, in whatever weather, in order to vote. If you are too g.d. lazy to hop in your car or line up a ride from a friend to drive to the school or other voting place a couple miles away, then you don’t deserve to vote unless you are disabled or out of town on essential business or medical emergency.

      • Drake

        I like how the Romans did it. Everyone assembled on the Field of Mars, assembled by tribe, and cast their votes.

      • Rebel Scum

        Word.

    • RAHeinlein

      F’ing Boomers – they did the same to AZ.

  43. straffinrun

    Whether it’s the police, covid or racism, can we at least agree that politicians could care less if they alleviate the problems? It would be more accurate most of the time to assume they are actively trying to make it worse.

    • leon

      When there are problems, people want leaders. It is in their intrest to keep having problems and then to keep “Slaying” those dragons.

    • Cy

      *couldn’t care less

      Between COVID and the BLM tensions, every politician is walking around with a 24/7 power boner.

      • straffinrun

        ugh. Muh negatives a killing me today.

  44. ttyrant

    Rhywun – your link above about the Leeds fans purchasing a bin Laden cutout gave me a much needed laugh. Well done Leeds fans — I believe that qualifies as “taking the piss”.

  45. Drake

    Everything Trump said about Carly Fiorina was true.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      She’s a fake conservative corporatist that’s managed to run a pretty good company into the ditch. If he said something like that that he was correct.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Two. She bailed on Lucent before the shit she was a part of and a full participant in got on her permanently.

        Her Lucent career is perfect example of Carlyism. She later bitched about the awful sexism that existed while quite happy at the time to use her sex to ride tits and teeth positions to the top.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        She pretty much single-handedly destroyed Lucent.

        I was selling to them at the time and remember very well when Lucent self-financed a multi-billion dollar sale of cellular equipment to Turkey. It was insane.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Carly is the perfect example of the Peter Principle.

      She absolutely ruined Hewlett Packard.

      • Sensei

        Yup. Although some of that was typical Wall Street.

        Hi margin, but low growth measuring and test equipment – hello Agilent!

      • robc

        Also, that kind of merger with different corporate cultures is hard for anyone. Not giving her a pass by any means, but there were a lot of issues.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I was dumbfounded when they spun out Agilent. They owned that market in the US and it was a cash cow.

        And then merging with a disaster of a company in the form of Compaq? So unbelievably stupid.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Hey now! The Peter Principle earned me some good coin for a short while.

  46. DEG

    Texas Gauleiter orders bars closed

    Republican Gov. Greg Abbott shut down bars in Texas again on Friday and scaled back restaurant dining, the most dramatic reversals yet as confirmed coronavirus cases surge.

    Abbott also ordered rafting and tubing outfitters on Texas’ popular rivers to close and said outdoor gatherings of 100 people or more must be approved by local governments. The abrupt actions reflect how Texas is now scrambling to contain an outbreak less than two months after an aggressive reopening that was one of the fastest in the U.S.

    “At this time, it is clear that the rise in cases is largely driven by certain types of activities, including Texans congregating in bars,” Abbott said. “The actions in this executive order are essential to our mission to swiftly contain this virus and protect public health.”

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      And here we go with the beginning of the “second wave” lockdowns. In two weeks everything is going to be closed down again across the country. I might have to move to whichever Dakota that is that has the gov who refuses to shut down. Fuck this shit.

    • Sean

      Ugh. That sucks.

    • Apples and Knives

      If my trip through Texas a couple weeks ago is any indication, people outside the big cities will just ignore it.

  47. The Late P Brooks

    kbolino, above:

    we’ve had almost fifty years of the Great Society, not just in name but in descendant policy and mentality, wreaking havoc across the country. There is a great deal of research potential in identifying why this has impacted certain groups of people more significantly than others

    Sometimes I think if you sat down with the explicit goal of destroying the black community, you couldn’t have devised a more effective program than the Great Society and war on poverty. How could you more comprehensively destroy people’s agency and ambition, and disincentivise financial and educational self-betterment?

  48. The Late P Brooks

    Abbott also ordered rafting and tubing outfitters on Texas’ popular rivers to close and said outdoor gatherings of 100 people or more must be approved by local governments. The abrupt actions reflect how Texas is now scrambling to contain an outbreak less than two months after an aggressive reopening that was one of the fastest in the U.S.

    “At this time, it is clear that the rise in cases is largely driven by certain types of activities, including Texans congregating in bars,” Abbott said. “The actions in this executive order are essential to our mission to swiftly contain this virus and protect public health.”

    Oh, for fuck’s sake.

    You’re pretty much safe outdoors.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      We’re being governed by panicky idiots.

      • EvilSheldon

        We’re panicky idiots being governed by other panicky idiots.

    • Sean

      You’re pretty much safe outdoors.

      Agreed. I’m thinking it’s the bussing them back to base is the issue. Not that I agree with the shutdown.

    • Drake

      Fuck – just let everyone who isn’t old or decrepit get it during the summer so it goes away. This is fucking stupid, it’s a cold virus.

  49. JD is in the United Karendom

    Got some folks coming to look at the house. Probably London guardianista champagne socialist types. Remove Gadsden flag fridge magnet in case I get doxxed for being a “WhItE sUpReMaCiSt!1111” or something?

    • Gustave Lytton

      Well, a Gadsden flag in Merry Olde England is pretty much equivalent to a Confederate flag. Symbol of rebellion and traitors.

      • Incentives Matter

        Who cares about doxxing? You want to sell your house. Do what it takes, and then let ’em know after they sign the contract and cut the cheque. That way they can wring their hands about getting “conservative cooties” (Or whatever).

  50. Don Escaped MLB

    well, if all California can’t fall into the Pacific . . . .

    No libertarian points to be scored here unless you want to see a picture of how many tax-funded fire trucks it takes to fish three stiffs out of the surf.

    Apologies to Suellington, Delecto, blackjack, MadSci, Anaçreöaeiaan, Chafed, Hayek, and and other reasonable people in those parts.

      • Gustave Lytton

        The cherry on the top is the ladder truck has the outriggers deployed because…. they’re trying to entangle an unneeded ladder in the overhead cable?

      • Mad Scientist

        They may have needed it to get bodies up from the rocks. It’s fairly steep right there and not what you normally think of as a sandy beach.

      • Mad Scientist

        That’s a fairly deserted part of the coast, between Point Dume and a naval base. It’s in Ventura County but about a mile from Malibu (in LA County), so I assume the Malibu departments responded first because they’re actually closer. I don’t mind so many showing up for a search and rescue operation.

  51. The Late P Brooks

    Remove Gadsden flag fridge magnet in case I get doxxed for being a “WhItE sUpReMaCiSt!1111” or something?

    Hide the “Come back with a warrant” doormat.

    • Don Escaped MLB

      doormat

      Gotta get me one of those. NewWife parenthetically noted recently: X, Y, (I wish you didn’t hate cops so much), Z . . . .

      • Gender Traitor

        Fun (and true!) fact: One of my BILs regularly butts heads with his HOA’s Karens, usually over the cars and bikes on his carport, so his wife (one of Tom T’s many sisters) got him that doormat for Christmas, and they really have it at their front door.

  52. The Late P Brooks

    your mileage may vary

    Ford Motor isn’t worried about new features on its new F-150 pricing people out of the increasingly expensive full-size pickup market, according Ford Chief Operating Officer Jim Farley.

    “This is content people want and are more than willing to pay for,” he said Friday during CNBC’s “Squawk Box.” “People are happy to pay if the product is more productive.”

    On Thursday evening, Ford unveiled traditional and hybrid versions of the 2021 F-150 pickup. The truck is scheduled to begin arriving in dealerships this fall. An all-electric F-150 is expected sometime in the next two years.

    Sure, Jim. It just depends on how you define productivity. I don’t use my truck as a wifi hotspot.

    • Mad Scientist

      My rotary is a hybrid. It burns gas and oil.

  53. The Late P Brooks

    At this point, I wouldn’t buy shares of Ford if they were ten for a quarter.

    • Don Escaped MLB

      no argument from me on buying into automotive whatsoever

      but Billy is unique amongst car folk in this wise: he can’t lead the firm into bankruptcy without destroying everyone he is related to

    • Trolleric the Goth

      they need Mulally back, badly

    • Mad Scientist

      Oh, come now. A pickup is a much better use of hybrid and all-electric tech than a passenger car since a truck actually needs that torque. It you buy it as a work truck which spends most of its time around town, it’s fairly ideal.

  54. Festus' Mustache

    Ah heck, gotta get some snooze. Have fun Glibbies and scritch your critters!

    • Mojeaux

      Night, Festus!