George Floyd Prot- er, Pep Rally(!) Debriefing

by | Jun 7, 2020 | Musings, Society | 354 comments

As I mentioned in the comments a day or two back, someone in my neighborhood Facebook group organized some kind of “event” over George Floyd. This my debrief of my brief drive-by of the event: LAME. As in, loser-kids-in-high-school holding-a-car-wash-on-the-corner-to-raise-money-for-their-student-council-field-trip kind of lame. Seemed to be about the same crowd, too, with their loser parents.

LA-AME, YOU FUCKING LOSER

Bucket o’ Chuds on the corner

It made me feel better that I forgot my pistol at home in my haste to get out the door. (I may have been a little high, too, but I’m not sure… because I can’t remember.)

My wife mentioned to me that the post got something like 500 comments – and not all very supportive or positive. For perspective, our community’s Facebook page might get a dozen or two dozen comments on matters of interest, like the Fourth of July Fireworks at the two artificial lakes that the community surrounds or some fundraiser for the local high school football team.

Not a bad turnout of lemming.

Which brings me back to the whole vibe of this thing. I drove past and then turned into the Safeway parking lot, which is directly behind the intersection where this… whatever it was… was being held. It’s actually a good spot for it in that the corner of the intersection also has a big area of grass adjacent to it, providing plenty of room for the definitely-not-CrossFit-people declaring that they definitely are NOT racist! TOTALLY! And you shouldn’t be either… WHOO!!

Black Lives matter, doncha know?

WE’RE NOT RACISTS!! WE’RE NOT RACISTS!!

Some cars driving by would beep their horns and the people would all yell, as if it were a rivalry game. “Go WOLVES!!” Okay, maybe they didn’t actually yell “Go Wolves,” but instead just howled loudly, and I’m extrapolating from the “WHOO!!!!” I got so fired up I started chanting “Let the Brothers Go!! Let the Brothers Go!” like Paul Newman in “Fort Apache, the Bronx.” Interestingly, while trying to find that clip (I couldn’t) I did find this one, which seems oddly a propos, viz a viz the current situation in NYC.

There were some… I can’t call them counter-protesters, but a handful of guys on Harleys were watching the goings-on, and three Cop SUVs were at a pretty good distance away, all parked next to each other. I watched one patrol by the front of the grocery store and business went on virtually oblivious in the Safeway (where I took care of important business; buying some chocolate chip ice cream).

The area seemed busier than usual, but the majority of it seemed drivers-by, people like me who just wanted to see what was going on. My purpose was to make note if there were outside influences who might have decided to see if they could push things out to the ‘burbs, but it appeared to be entirely home-grown, Civil Rights LARPers.

Most seemed to be wearing their masks, given some folks’ obvious co-morbidities for the COVID, probably wise. Social distancing is obviously overridden, however, by more pressing matters, as those leaders in NY told us! In any event, it all felt like…a high school pep rally and it made me wonder, what does it portend? Specifically for the next election. While I, like many here, have mocked the “MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION EVAHHH!!!” crowd mercilessly, given what we’ve seen since the last one, I would say that this does feel like the most consequential election in my lifetime, even moreso than Reagan-Carter, which was cast in similarly apocalyptic terms on the Left. My parents, devout blue collar dems of the ’70s, were quite worried Reagan would get us into a nuclear war with Russia.

I can’t help but see the timing of this, and the Media coverage, as entirely driven by politics, especially on the heels of Biden’s “you ain’t black” massive public fuckup. The cops kill about 1000 citizens per annum, so there is never a lack of opportunity to find an egregious case to put public attention on. The way this whiplashed off of COVID, completely disregarded prior ABSOLUTELY VITAL LIFESAVING EMERGENCY MEASURES!!!! instantly has really thrown this whole thing into chaos. I don’t think it works in favor of the Dems; I really do not. If I’m wrong, then it doesn’t matter anyway and we’re purely in “stock up on (even more) ammo” mode. The Media all feels driven, unhinged even, careening from one MASS EMERGENCY!!! to the next, and it gives me the feeling that it’s borne of desperation. I don’t care what the “polls” say, either.

Given other matters coming to light, I wonder how long Progs think they can distract people from what’s coming out of the so-called “Obamagate” mess, including a decision from the DC Circuit in Flynn’s case. What next? I wonder if it is possible for the public to get numb to it all. I don’t think you can keep up this kind of “emergency news cycle” in perpetuity. People will simply go numb, but I guess we’ll see what the coming months brings us.

I’ll be working on my garden and my citrus trees and playing with the new pets we’ve gotten in the last few months, a dog and two kittens. (Poppy not pictured).

Pip (left) and Sir Winston Hobbes. Other kitten amok elsewhere.

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Ozymandias

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354 Comments

  1. Count Potato

    “As I mentioned in the comments a day or two back, someone in my neighborhood Facebook group organized some kind of “event” over George Floyd.”

    A movie night of his porn videos?

  2. Count Potato

    (Poppy not pictured)

    Aus hardest hit.

  3. Count Potato

    Wait, that’s a dog? I thought it was a rabbit.

    • C. Anacreon

      “I’m not a wabbit! I need some west…..”

      /Madeline Kahn

  4. Count Potato

    “Given other matters coming to light, I wonder how long Progs think they can distract people from what’s coming out of the so-called “Obamagate” mess, including a decision from the DC Circuit in Flynn’s case. What next? I wonder if it is possible for the public to get numb to it all. I don’t think you can keep up this kind of “emergency news cycle” in perpetuity. People will simply go numb, but I guess we’ll see what the coming months brings us.”

    Just like all of the other Obama scandals, the mainstream media will dismiss it as Fox News stuff.

    • Akira

      Reputable news organizations like CNN and New York Times pronounced the Obama administration to be Scandal Free™. What part of that don’t you understand??

  5. Don Escaped the Virus . . . remember the virus?

    my money was on “skip it”

    what do I win ?

    • Count Potato

      A year supply of Rice-A-Roni?

      • Don Escaped the Virus . . . remember the virus?

        I was hoping for an 8 x 10 color glossy of Bo Diddley * crosses self * 🙁

    • DEG

      I like the view for #2.

      #7. YES!

      #12 is not allowed to drive my car.

      #15 has appeared in other galleries but it is good to see her again.

      I like #4’s and #18’s iChive gallery.

      But #7 is definitely the winner of this round of “DEG needs life and laid.”

    • Rebel Scum

      One and done.

    • Spudalicious

      5.

  6. Yusef _____ too much, insert verb here

    Ha! good times! love the Kittah,
    Howdy Ozy!

  7. Incentives Matter

    So I signed on to the local chapter of Nextdoor.com about five days ago.

    CWAA. I mean me. What was I thinking? It should be called “Nextderp,” as in “Next derp, please!”

    I have de-activated my account. And may God have mercy on my soul.

    • Q Continuum

      Karens in their natural habitat.

      • Incentives Matter

        This is painful for me, ’cause my spousal unit’s first name is in fact “Karen,” although she’s one of the most anti-Karens I’ve ever known.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      I’m sure there’s one of those around here. I’m gonna avoid it like the plague. Back in my old neighborhood, it was nice. 90% “coyote sighted at 125 main Street”, 5% “I’m selling a circular saw”, 5% drama of various sorts.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Oops, premature submission.

        Meant to say that I’m under no illusion that the current neighborhood would be that way.

    • Rhywun

      I thought of signing up but wisely reconsidered. I mean, I deleted Facebook and Twitter FFS. What was I thinking.

    • EvilSheldon

      Nextdoor is the worst thing to ever come out of the internet.

      • Count Potato

        Wow.

      • Incentives Matter

        I dunno — with all the competition out there, I’m not sure Nextderp’s up to the challenge.

    • Nephilium

      The girlfriend signed up for that, and gave up my e-mail address. It lead to a pointed conversation every time I got spam from them.

    • Gender Traitor

      Our neighborhood Nextdoor group was formed in response to a spate of home burglaries several years ago. (Unfortunately, the primary perp went to the next level and carjacked an elderly lady, but fortunately was caught and put away,) I don’t think to look at it very often anymore, but it seems to have stayed mostly drama-free. Just found this heartwarming post:

      Fireworks and partying. I enjoy both. If you are making noise PLEASE invite me to your house. I’ll bring beers.
      Posted in General to 35 neighborhoods

    • blackjack

      I did better, I got my self kicked off for questioning everything. They are some obey the man types. There was a contingent of decent people and I was one of the loudest spokespeople for them. We all got kicked off when they switched to riot mode.

    • Rebel Scum

      I recently got on to Nextdoor, myself. Thought it might be handy to network with neighbors. It is mostly retarded bs.

    • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

      WTF is “nextdoor”?

      • Gender Traitor

        Social network organized by neighborhoods. I thought at one time you had to be invited to join your neighborhood’s group, but I don’t know if that is indeed the case.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        I know not one person in my neighborhood. So, I guess I’m good!

  8. straffinrun

    I try to get in the heads of people I disagree with. It’s hard not to take one gander at those people and assume the only thing they are thinking is, “I’m better than you.”

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      *Gets into head of idiot millennial protestor.*

      …RHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE1!!1!!!

    • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

      Rent-free? I mean, why not, right?

  9. Chafed

    Who did I piss off? I love this article but it cut into the last half hour of GlibFit.

  10. grrizzly

    I saw a protest like this in a neighboring town today. There were people with signs on both sides of the road for about 600 yards. Rather densely packed. They were hoping that the drivers would honk. I think the protesters were almost exclusively white.

  11. DEG

    My wife mentioned to me that the post got something like 500 comments – and not all very supportive or positive. For perspective, our community’s Facebook page might get a dozen or two dozen comments on matters of interest, like the Fourth of July Fireworks at the two artificial lakes that the community surrounds or some fundraiser for the local high school football team.

    Where are you? Every BLM rally/protest/what-have-you in New Hampshire has been quite well attended. Last night’s in Nashua had about 1,000 people.

    (where I took care of important business; buying some chocolate chip ice cream)

    You have a good set of priorities.

    I don’t think it works in favor of the Dems; I really do not.

    I agree. I think we’ll see another Silent Majority voting in an doubleplusungoodthink way.

    I’ll be working on my garden and my citrus trees and playing with the new pets we’ve gotten in the last few months, a dog and two kittens.

    Ahhh.

    Thanks for the report!

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      I hope there is still a Silent Majority of people who just want to make money and get on with their lives with some semblance of individual liberty.

      But I’m not optimistic.

    • Ted S.

      There are 1000 black people in New Hampshire?

  12. AlmightyJB

    “I don’t think it works in favor of the Dems; I really do not. If I’m wrong, then it doesn’t matter anyway and we’re purely in “stock up on (even more) ammo” mode.”

    I think we’re in that mode regardless of what happens. In a sane world the public would be throwing the entire Democrat party out on their bums, but I think allowing the left to own the the education system from pre-school through grad-school has perhaps sealed this countries fate. I think there are some signs here and there for optimism, but I’m not feeling too hopeful at the moment.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      We have replaced “teaching people how to think” with “teaching people how to emote in the trendiest possible way.”

      We are in deep shit here. Not a single one of those protestors could tell you a single fact about the Fall of Rome or the French Revolution or the Battle of Midway or any actual facet of history. All they know is that they feel very strongly that they should be in charge.

      • Jarflax

        They are good at getting outraged at bad things. They are completely incapable of evaluating the degree of badness. They see Billy Bob in his 1985 Bronco muttering a slur when he gets cut off by a black guy exactly as they see Himmler ordering Warsaw burnt to the ground. And they are incapable of understanding the real issue in any of it. The answer to the enslavement of black people is to enslave white people, becuase clearly that is the opposite. They are toddlers, emotionally and intellectually. All things are either bad, and therefore irredeemable or good and therefore without flaw.

      • EvilSheldon

        They are toddlers, emotionally and intellectually.

        In one.

      • Count Potato

        Not a single one of those protestors could tell you a single fact about George Floyd.

      • Jarflax

        Not a single one of those protestors could tell you a single fact

        equally true

      • commodious spittoon

        I spent the afternoon listening to these fellows run down the intellectual history of social justice, from Foucault onward. Their conversations are interesting and edifying, even if the subject matter is neither. In fact it’s sickeningly circular and logically unbound, which I guess makes sense as it explicitly dismisses reason, logic, and evidence as simply one form of truth or experience or whatever, one they must dismiss because it’s part of the dominant race construct of whites. One of the discussants compares it to Scientology, with racism being the Thetans of social justice theory. Everything from that point on is aimed at keeping white “allies” from questioning, much less critiquing, the theory and their involvement. See, you aren’t a good person for trying to be a good ally—by burnishing your social justice credentials, you’re actually attempting to elevate your social standing among less privileged colleagues, which makes you a bad ally and a bad person. You must forever engage in anti-racism “work,” which you will never finish, you will never atone, and even to ask about or take pride in your “work” is proof that you’re an unreformed bigot.

        It’s Soviet party politics on steroids but without the superficial logic of class consciousness. I can’t imagine belonging to a movement of petty, grievance-driven backstabbers and ankle-biters, and this isn’t some schoolgirl clique, it’s an intellectual movement spanning back decades.

      • Count Potato

        Oddly enough, Foucault wouldn’t have agreed with it.

      • commodious spittoon

        Who cares what some dead white dude thinks, anyway?

        (It’s briefly mentioned in one of those videos that Foucault and his contemporaries were not well regarded by the early social justice pioneers.)

      • DenverJ

        Foucalt’s Pendulum was one of the few books that I have started but just couldn’t wade through to the finish.
        Incidentally, refering to an earlier post, Rob Halford and his not-Judas-Priest band sometime in the 90’s, was the only concert I have ever walked out on.

      • LCDR_Fish

        As a big plus, FP was actually written by Eco. Definitely worth the slog though. I need to reread it again sometime.

    • Stillhunter

      I prefer to agree with DEG about the silent majority. It’s really all I’ve been clinging to in hopes for the future. That the majority of people have some “common sense” for lack of a better term.

      Unfortunately I think you’re correct on the drastic increase in people who would prefer the government take care of them. Add that Trump is no Reagan. He doesn’t have the folksy ability to play to a greater ideal. He’s a bull in a china shop who only comes upon a good idea by accident, then stomps in it with cloven hooves.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        I think its fair to say that this would all still be happening under President Rubio, or whomever, but I also think that its fair to say that this hypothetical other POTUS would both be better about not stepping on rakes AND be a total pussy when it came to the media. Whether that would put us in a better spot, I honestly don’t know.

      • Stillhunter

        Oh, I agree on the hypothetical. I’m not a fan of Trump, but I’m not a fan of anyone so…

        I love how he treats the press in some ways, but even there, he’s so bullish about it. I guess I’m the type of person who would prefer to see an intelligent, yet firm, argument for or against, rather than his belligerent style. Just a personal preference, YMMV.

        I’m not aware of any politician on the national stage who would handle the press or political opponents the way I prefer. There’s probably a reason for that. Something about incentives…

      • blackjack

        I don’t know, man. None of this seems very…organic to me.

      • DrOtto

        Exactly, they were trying hard to make race a huge issue just days before George Floyd with that woman in New York who called the cops on the black guy for calling her out for having her dog off leash.

      • Suthenboy

        It would not put us in a better spot. Trump is a symptom of worthless, spineless republicans letting the left get their way for as long as I can remember. More spineless republicans are not the solution.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        I agree with that. The Dems/Media and the Repubs have had a hand in creating Trump.

        And now all they want to do is get rid of him. They deserve whatever grief he gives them.

  13. Count Potato

    “Y’all notice how all of your “libertarian” friends on social media ain’t been saying shit? Like, they should be anti-cop because freedom. But they just can’t bring themselves to acknowledge that black lives matter because being a libertarian is just cool ranch white supremacy.”

    https://twitter.com/vexedinthecity/status/1269454546021089280

    Someday, I’m going to try this ranch thing I keep hearing about.

      • Jarflax

        Aren’t all capital Ls collectivist?

      • Count Potato

        I don’t think so.

      • Jarflax

        Bake the cake
        Black Lives Matter

        When the Ls stop running after the progs with their tongues hanging out begging for acceptance I’ll go back to believing they are libertarians. Until then I am convinced they are progs who think their tax bill is too high.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        ^This.

    • Q Continuum

      “they should be anti-cop because freedom”

      I wouldn’t say libertarians are up-and-down straight “anti-cop” but they’re definitely a lot more skeptical of state power than most. Since the cops operate as the force of state power on the ground, libertarians are (rightly) skeptical of them. Defund and/or abolish police? I haven’t heard many libertarians argue for that, though some do. What I hear more of is that because cops are an embodiment of state force, they should be held to a much higher standard than average Joes; instead they often get held to a much lower standard.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        The fact that there are so many plausible policy options to combat police misuse of force and “take all their funding away” was the only thing they could think of shows you that Progressives are fundamentally unserious people.

      • Rebel Scum

        There is a role for law enforcement in civil society. But as long as these marxists are controlling the narrative there will be no positive change in law or policing.

    • Rhywun

      Like, they should be anti-cop because freedom.

      It is known that the only options are “copsucker” and “anti-cop”.

      • straffinrun

        BTW, saw that you got some health stuff going on. Hope it all turns out well.

      • Rhywun

        Thx

      • Hyperion

        The only option is no cops and no guns for you, utopia! /the left

    • straffinrun

      I ain’t been saying shit because silence isn’t only golden, it’s white.

    • Derpetologist

      I don’t suppose it would help to point out to this person that libertarians have been complaining about police abuse and excessive laws for longer than he’s been alive.

      Or that the places where this abuse happens most often are cities that have been run by Team Blue for 50 years or more.

      Or that those cities often have black mayors and black chiefs of police.

      Or that the very people demanding the police get tough on crime are black people in high-crime neighborhoods.

      Or that Joe Biden was one of the chief proponents of the 1994 crime bill that landed so many black people in prison.

      Or that 50 years of LBJ’s anti-poverty and anti-crime programs made both worse.

      Or that a majority of black people support the war on drugs.

      ***
      Black support for the drug war didn’t just grow in New York alone. At the federal level, members of the newly formed Congressional Black Caucus met with President Richard Nixon, urging him to ramp up the drug war as quickly as possible.

      Michael Javen Fortner, a political scientist and historian at Rutgers University, says that “the silent black majority of Harlem and New York City felt constantly accosted by drug addicts, by pushers, by crime.”
      ***

      https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/08/16/212620886/the-shift-in-black-views-of-the-war-on-drugs

      • blackjack

        If this was a protest against police violence, I’d go march right now. It’s not. It’s about “systemic racism” and income inequality. It’s about “eat the rich” and defund the cops so we can give the money to whomever seems the most needy. I do not support any of this. I especially take exception to the locations, all of them high end shopping areas. Tell me this isn’t a total setup? The very minute Trump starts talking about antifa, the fires and looting stop on a dime. The people expressing their outrage, my ass.

    • Count Potato

      “Ranch dressing is an American salad dressing usually made from buttermilk, salt, garlic, onion, mustard, herbs (commonly chives, parsley and dill), and spices (commonly pepper, paprika and ground mustard seed) mixed into a sauce based on mayonnaise or another oil emulsion. Sour cream and yogurt are sometimes used in addition to, or as a substitute for, buttermilk and mayonnaise.”

      It doesn’t sound that bad….

      • Tulip

        Homemade ranch dressing is delicious

      • Count Potato

        Do you have a good recipe? I’m not so good at cooking things I’ve never tried.

      • gbob

        Long as you don’t dip your wings in it!

      • EvilSheldon

        Quiet, you.

        Ranch >>> Bleu Cheese

      • AlmightyJB

        So great 2 ingredient recipe. Cole slaw mix (ie shredded cabbage and carrot) mixed with Asiago Peppercorn dressing. Best Cole slaw ever.

      • gbob

        Dont force me to get the Bill’s Mafia together to invade your house, drink all of your beer, and dive through every folding table you own.

      • DenverJ

        Mayo is gross.

    • blackjack

      How about BLM is totally marxist and has very little to do with anybody’s freedom?

      • Suthenboy

        Marxism in blackface.

    • kbolino

      You didn’t give any fucks when it was no-knock raids in the middle of the night, nor flashbangs in a baby’s crib, nor dogs getting killed as a matter of course, nor “suspects” getting railroaded by FBI agents’ hand-written notes. So why should any libertarian give a fuck about your johnny-come-lately race-baiting?

      • creech

        The problem is how many of those outrages were recorded and made to go viral? Libertarians have railed against police abuse, etc. etc. for 45 years and no one cared. So many the events of these past two weeks has a silver lining…if legislatures and city councils and mayors are actually motivated to make needed reforms instead of lip service.

      • blackjack

        None of this is real. This is all about getting rid of Trump. He’s already far surpassed Obama on reform AND he’s obviously someone that would strike a deal to do even more. If the only concern was police reform, why did none of these people bring that straight to him? He has made stuff happen on that exact front and brags about it, already. He actually tried to get DACA codified into law, THEY said no. 2020 is one big lie, all of it!

      • DenverJ

        +1

    • Rebel Scum

      being a libertarian is just cool ranch white supremacy

      Luckily I prefer balsamic.

  14. Count Potato

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    https://themonopolyonviolence.com/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWAEKQjN-yM

  15. EvilSheldon

    Hey, don’t make fun of the high-school kids doing car washes. Around here, it’s usually the local high school girls cross-country team that keeps my truck sparkling.

    • Count Potato

      Now that’s a euphemism.

    • R C Dean

      Euphemism of the week, at least.

    • Rebel Scum

      No one is allowed to touch my car, especially not some hs sports team that has no idea how to detail a car*.

      *My first job was detailing cars and I keep my shit looking right.

      • R C Dean

        I’m still getting euphemism vibes.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        When the typical HS bastard can’t even bag groceries without a plan-o-gram, I have no doubt the jock squad is a little lacking in the detailing department.

  16. Derpetologist

    I made the mistake of listening to NPR today and it was nothing but protests, racism, Trump, herp herp herpa derp. One guest said she was careful not to use the words riot or looting, preferring uprising and rebellion instead.

    Another, a Yale professor, said that Nixon and Reagan had shredded the social safety net, and that is why there is so much crime. She also said that police with “AK-47s” had crushed “protests” in Ferguson.

    There are 3 things that correlate very strongly with crime: being young (15 to 30), male, and being raised by a single mom. But for some reason, these things are seldom mentioned, at least on NPR.

    And then there are the defund the police people, who also believe that wrongthink is hatecrime.

    Anyway, I went for a long walk and read the Bhagavad Gita along the way. The name means song of the lord. The famous “I have become death, destroyer of worlds” is from chapter 11, verse (shloka) 32. As I read, it was interesting to see parallels with the New Testament, the Book of 5 Rings, stoic philosophy, and the Dao de Jing. On my walk, I saw a beaver dam. It was oddly soothing to watch the water flow over it.

    There are bits in the book that are very similar to the Gospel, including an “I am the alpha and the omega” (10:20) comment and an “if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off” (3:45) one. Sanskrit means elaborated/composed in that language.

    The common message in those works is that you should avoid being ruled by your feelings. To see the world clearly, you must avoid strong likes or dislikes.

    I will be dialing back my activity here for a few weeks, I think. I have a lot of reading to catch up on.

    Lord Krishna says: I love the peaceful devotee who is neither a source of agitation in the world nor agitated by the world. I love those who are free of fear, envy, and other annoyances that the world brings, who accept the knocks that come their way as blessings in disguise. (12:15)

    • Derpetologist

      oopsy – alpha and omega verse is from Revelation. At least I remembered it was JC who said it.

    • EvilSheldon

      Lord Krishna says: I love the peaceful devotee who is neither a source of agitation in the world nor agitated by the world. I love those who are free of fear, envy, and other annoyances that the world brings, who accept the knocks that come their way as blessings in disguise. (12:15)

      Man, a long walk sounds pretty good right about now.

      • Derpetologist

        I played chess in college with a guy from India. He was a really great guy. One time I asked him: how does Hinduism deal with atheists?

        He said: easy- we accept them.

        On the flip side, Christian converts in Hindu Nepal sometimes do not get the warmest welcome.

        wiki sez

        ***
        Throughout the period from 1768 to 1990, proselytism of or conversion to Christianity or Islam was legally prohibited in Nepal.[94] A statement of this prohibition can be found in the legal code of 1935:[95]

        To him who preaches beliefs opposed to the traditional religion of the subjects of the kingdom, to him who abandons or cause to abandon one religion to adopt, or cause to adopt, another one, the following rules will be applied: In the whole of the kingdom of Gorkha – Nepal, putting into practice (calauna) and preaching (pracar garna)…. Kabir panthi, Christian, Islamic and other irreligious (vi-dharmi) and foreign (vi-deshi) beliefs (mat) which ruin the religion traditionally practised (sanatan-dekhi hindu jati ma cali-aeko) by the Hindu community and the caste hierarchy, is prohibited; converting to these beliefs any of our subjects belonging to the Brahman caste, or any other clean caste is prohibited.

        These laws were in force even after the revolution of 1951, and were reaffirmed in the legal code of 1963, which prohibited the preaching of Christianity or Islam and stipulated three years in jail for those who attempted to convert people, and six years for those who succeeded in converting others.[96] For those who ‘attempt’ to be converted, there was a fine of a hundred rupees, and for those who actually converted (that is, were baptized), there would be imprisonment of one year.[96] The code stated that ‘when somebody becomes converted, the conversion is nullified, and he remains in the Hindu dharma [religion]’.[96]
        ***

      • Ted S.

        My sister’s in-laws worked with a missionary organization that provided low-cost hearing aids to people in Nepal, spending several years there.

        Proselytizing was highly illegal.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      Been studying up on Hinduism for a course I will be teaching in the Fall.

      That stuff is *super* complicated but also really interesting.

    • Derpetologist

      some elaboration

      (3:34) not (3:45)

      ***
      Truly, if the eye does not help one visualize god in everything it sees, it is better to be blind. If the ear drags one into filthy cacophony, it is better to be deaf. The senses should not be instruments which plunge you into muck; they should serve your interests, control your appetites, and help you dwell in divinity.
      ***

      (10:20)

      ***
      I am the innermost true self, the atma seated in the hearts of all beings. And I am the beginning, middle, and end of all beings.
      ***

      Gandhi had 6 possessions supposedly – his robe, sandals, watch, glasses, bowl, and a very worn out Bhagavad Gita.

      • Jarflax

        Oddly a man with 6 possessions left his heirs ownership of the subcontinent and everyone in it.

      • Derpetologist

        Former Indian PM Indira Gandhi was not related to him. Gandhi just means grocer in Gujarati and is a common last name.

        Wiki sez

        ***
        Gandhi’s children and grandchildren live in India and other countries. Grandson Rajmohan Gandhi is a professor in Illinois and an author of Gandhi’s biography titled Mohandas,[445] while another, Tarun Gandhi, has authored several authoritative books on his grandfather. Another grandson, Kanu Ramdas Gandhi (the son of Gandhi’s third son Ramdas), was found living in an old age home in Delhi despite having taught earlier in the United States.[446][447]
        ***

      • straffinrun

        Holy Shit. I always assumed she was, too.

      • Derpetologist

        Sokath, his eyes uncovered!

        Be thankful. You are now smarter today than you were yesterday.

        For no particular reason, some favorite quotes of mine. Each one prefaces a chapter in my autobiography entitled Pimpin’ Ain’t Easy:

        At birth, people are almost the same. By habit, they become very different

        Imagination is more important than knowledge

        Religion is regarded by the wise as false, by the foolish as true, and by the rulers as useful

        It’s easier to change yourself than it is to change the world

        A journey of 1,000 miles begins with 1 step

        You can’t win if you don’t play

        If you follow all the rules, you’ll miss all the fun

        Better alone than with bad company

        There is no point in tip-toeing through life just to arrive safely at death

        At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go back in the same box

      • straffinrun

        “ At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go back in the same box”

        The queen.

      • Jarflax

        I see I was mistaken.

      • straffinrun

        Whatever, Brees.

      • Jarflax

        If I was Brees I’d be getting laid, and my house and car would be nicer.

      • Ted S.

        If you were Philip Rivers, you’d really be getting laid.

      • Derpetologist

        Indira Gandhi *was* the daughter of Jawaharlal Nehru, who along with M K Gandhi led the Indian independence movement. She met Gandhi several times as a girl.

    • Suthenboy

      Generally I like Indians but I am not a big fan of Hinduism. Indian religions have a serious flaw and that has worked its way into the cultures there.
      Belief in reincarnation. It puts a certain fatalism into their outlook. “It is ok that this terrible thing happened. We will get another go at it in the next life”
      I dont believe there is a problem without a solution and I dont think it is ok to just hand-wave that away.

      • Derpetologist

        Julia Sweeney (Pat from the SNL skits) talked about volunteering at an orphanage for disabled kids in Thailand (I think, maybe it was Laos). Anyway, she talks often about how bad she feels for a deformed kid and one of the locals says something like “why do you feel sorry? that kid must have been an awful person in past life to be born like that.” Ideas about reincarnation in Buddhism are similar to Hinduism.

        There are 6 major components of culture and 1 of them is control. Westerners tend to believe that they are in charge whereas elsewhere people believe in fate.

        The other components are: individual vs communal, strict time vs flexible time, universal vs particular, egalitarian vs hierarchical, and masculine vs feminine

        The US is mostly no fate but what we make, individualistic, strict time, universal (same rules for everybody), egalitarian, and gender neutral

      • Suthenboy

        I attempted to discuss the importance of strict time vs flexible time once…I don’t remember if it was here or at TOS but I dont think I did a very good job of it. That is a fairly recent development in western culture.

      • Derpetologist

        Yes, punctuality is a by-product of industrialized societies. The whole reason time zones exist was to prevent trains from crashing into each other.

        ***
        Timekeeping on the American railroads in the mid-19th century was somewhat confused. Each railroad used its own standard time, usually based on the local time of its headquarters or most important terminus, and the railroad’s train schedules were published using its own time. Some junctions served by several railroads had a clock for each railroad, each showing a different time.[6]
        ***

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_zone#Railway_time

      • Suthenboy

        It seems there is one left out of that. Supernatural vs. natural. I am not sure that is a good way to describe it. Perhaps animist vs. inanimist? In more superstitious cultures people’s lives are structured by ritual. In some cultures their every move is dictated by ritual from dressing themselves to crossing the river to eating. The result is that they are dumber than rocks. They never have to think about anything or make any decisions. Those cultures are also stuck in ruts because they arent allowed to think about things in different ways and cannot advance.
        This is a bottomless pit…I will leave it at that.

      • Derpetologist

        Hmm. That is a good point. I think the reason it is left off is that how do distinguish the “superstition” of one culture from the “custom” of another from the “ritual” of another.

        There is no practical reason for weddings, graduations, or funerals, yet the still happen in the US and elsewhere. There is no reason for a US president to swear in on a Bible, yet it happens anyway. There is no reason for each school day to start with the Pledge of Allegiance, but try to stop it and see what happens.

        I mean, just look at where we are now. There is no good reason for everyone to wear masks everywhere and stand 6 ft apart, but go against the flow and see what happens.

      • Suthenboy

        Of course it is a matter of degree. We still have many remnants of a ritualist society in our culture but they dont rule our daily lives the way some other cultures are bound by them. I wonder if it is possible to rid anyone totally of magical thinking. It seems part of human nature, thus, as you said, if you try and paddle against the current there is much RHEEEEEEing.

        I may have mentioned this before but it’s importance cant be overemphasized: We teach our children to solve their own problems whereas nearly every other culture in the world teach their children to look to someone else to solve their problems. This seems to me to be the biggest influence in creating an individualist or collectivist society.

      • Jarflax

        We USED TO teach our children to solve their own problems whereas nearly every other culture in the world teach their children to look to someone else to solve their problems. This seems to me to be the biggest influence in creating an individualist or collectivist society.

        Would you accept this correction?

      • Derpetologist

        The children, particularly the boys, of groups like the Lakota and the Apache were taught to be brave warriors and hunters. Even saying they were “taught” is a misnomer – as soon as they could live on their own, they were expected to wander away from the village and spend most of their time, hunting, fighting, and stealing.

        There are many parts of creating an individualist mindset and even in the best of circumstances, it can fail. If the US was uniquely predisposed to creating individualists, why do movements like Black Lives Matter or MAGA exist?

      • Suthenboy

        Jarflax: partly. It might be wheezing and standing on three legs but it isn’t dead yet.

    • CPRM

      I have heard it postulated that the New Testament may have been heavily borrowed from the Indian Subcontinent. One theory even posited maybe that’s where Jesus was between his youth and when his story picks up again in his early 30s. I don’t believe every crackpot theory, but it is interesting musing. I’ve even got one of my own!

      RE: Exodus the bible says the first born of pharaoh died from the last plague. Akhenaten was not the eldest, but came to rule because his older brother died. Then he tried to establish monotheism in Egypt. It would change the assumed date of Exodus, but would make a lot of sense. Just interesting to think about.

      • AlmightyJB

        Jesus was John Lennon? Did he have a Yoko? Is that why Judas betrayed him?

      • CPRM

        Also, some of this just makes me wonder about translation issues, like the retarded Zeitgeist ‘documentaries’ that said because son and sun are homophones in English that means using words for those in other languages means that Jesus was just a copy from Egyptian sun worship.

      • Derpetologist

        there are several pharaohs who could have been the one of Exodus:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaohs_in_the_Bible#Pharaohs_in_the_Book_of_Exodus

        ***
        Ramesses II (c. 1279–1213 BC): Also known as Ramesses the Great, he is the most commonly imagined figure in popular culture (most widely via the 1956 film The Ten Commandments), being one of the most long standing rulers at the height of Egyptian power, but, as with all other Pharaohs, there is no documentary or archaeological evidence that he chased any slaves fleeing Egypt. Ramesses II’s late 13th century BC stela in Beth Shan mentions two conquered peoples who came to “make obeisance to him” in his city of Raameses or Pi-Ramesses but mentions neither the building of the city nor, as some have written, the Israelites or Hapiru.[5] Additionally, the historical Pithom was built in the 7th century BC, during the Saite period.[6][7]
        ***

        The etymology of the name Moses is interesting to me:

        ***
        Several etymologies for the name “Moses” have been proposed. An Egyptian root msy, “child of”, has been considered as a possible etymology, arguably an abbreviation of a theophoric name, as for example in Egyptian names like Thutmoses (Thoth created him) and Ramesses (Ra created him),[18] with the god’s name omitted. Abraham Yahuda, based on the spelling given in the Tanakh, argues that it combines “water” or “seed” and “pond, expanse of water”, thus yielding the sense of “child of the Nile” (mw-še).[19]

        The Biblical account of Moses’ birth provides him with a folk etymology to explain the ostensible meaning of his name.[18][20] He is said to have received it from the Pharaoh’s daughter: “he became her son. She named him Moses (Moshe), saying, ‘I drew him out (meshitihu) of the water.'”[21][22] This explanation links it to a verb mashah, meaning “to draw out”, which makes the Pharaoh’s daughter’s declaration a play on words.[22][23] The princess made a grammatical mistake which is prophetic of his future role in legend, as someone who will “draw the people of Israel out of Egypt through the waters of the Red Sea.”[24]

        The Hebrew etymology in the Biblical story may reflect an attempt to cancel out traces of Moses’ Egyptian origins.[24] The Egyptian character of his name was recognized as such by ancient Jewish writers like Philo and Josephus.[24] Philo linked Moses’s name (Ancient Greek: Μωϋσῆς, romanized: Mōysēs, lit. ‘Mōusḗs’) to the Egyptian (Coptic) word for water (μῶυ/möu), in reference to his finding in the Nile and the biblical folk etymology.[25] Josephus, in his Antiquities of the Jews, claims that the second element, -esês, meant ‘those who are saved’. The problem of how an Egyptian princess, known to Josephus as Thermutis (identified as Tharmuth)[22] and in later Jewish tradition as Bithiah,[26] could have known Hebrew puzzled medieval Jewish commentators like Abraham ibn Ezra and Hezekiah ben Manoah. Hezekiah suggested she either converted or took a tip from Jochebed.[27][28]
        ***

      • CPRM

        Well, my theory would place Amenhotep III (Akhenaten’s father) as the Pharaoh of Exodus, so their list is wrong!

  17. Count Potato

    “The Bay Area saw no new COVID-19 deaths today for the first time in three weeks, a local bartender and spirits maker was arrested on child porn charges, and the Richmond man found eating his dead grandmother has been charged with her murder.”

    https://twitter.com/SFist/status/1268695305555513349

    You mean the Tampa Bay area?

    • Rebel Scum

      Because the confederates that died there did so because they hated black people. . .

      Also, it is interesting to learn that there is a confederate cemetery in Ohio.

      • AlmightyJB

        They died at the Union Prison Camp. Mostly from malnutrition, exposure, and disease. I used to live a couple blocks from there. Stopped in a few times while walking to the bar.

  18. Count Potato

    “I am the only candidate with a feasible and realistic plan to accomplish all of the following:
    • Abolish the police
    • End looting and rioting
    • End police violence
    • Get rid of qualified immunity
    • Launch the New York Times into interplanetary space”

    https://twitter.com/smod4real/status/1269004943320473600

    • Jarflax

      His campaign has momentum.

      • Rebel Scum

        Rebel Scum: 2020
        “Nuke it form orbit.”

  19. Tres Cool

    nice use of C.H.U.D.

    • Rebel Scum

      Nothing surprises me anymore. And that is a problem. Even the Bee could not parody that.

    • Drake

      What in the fuck? This is beyond clown world.

    • Gustave Lytton

      With the armed officers behind them with their hands on the back, it looks like a dystopian future with a state enforced race based society.

    • Count Potato

      He makes perfect sense.

  20. westernsloper

    Sir Winston Hobbes

    A very fitting name. That guy looks like a Sir Winston Hobbes. ?

    I am done with protests, protesters, rioters and looters, dishonest politicians who fucked our economy with the help of health “officials” the Karens and all of it.

    • straffinrun

      You may be done with them, but they aren’t done with you. Hence the problem.

      • Rebel Scum

        Indeed.

      • Suthenboy

        “You may be done with them, but they aren’t done with you.”

        Nor will they ever be.

    • AlmightyJB

      Is that a used price?

    • westernsloper

      You made me look, but I think I will spend my next 500 clams on finishing my AR. I have been holding off waiting to see if I am laid off. Maybe maybe not seems to be the theme so I might just buy the parts because I lean on the irresponsible side of the spectrum.

    • EvilSheldon

      Aw yas. I love me some Italian steel.

      Might I point you towards https://www.langdontactical.com/custom-gun-work-92-96-m9-px4/ for when you decide to play with it?

      I did about 500 rounds through the 2011 Limited blaster, and about 200 through the 11.5″ AR ShortyBoi today. I am *really* rusty with the rifle. Like, bad. But I still managed to put ten rounds (out of ten) into a BC target at 300 yards, prone, with a 4MOA Aimpoint red dot. Bravo Company makes a pretty schwanky upper.

    • DEG

      Nice

    • dontreadonme

      I have the Wilson Combat/Beretta version of that pistol and love it. Shoots like a dream.

    • Jarflax

      Well it is something like 95% Democrat.

    • Sean

      I kind of support this. Think of how many people we can get off their government jobs.

      Last person left, please turn the lights out.

    • Rhywun

      Utopia at last.

      • Tres Cool

        I hope they get the frat-brah kinda people that were having a party, and tried to support the protesters and got rocks tossed through their windows

        ‘DUDE! WHAT THE FUCK! WE RE ON YOUR SIDE!’

        /another rock crashes

    • Chafed

      Let’s see if the Nation of Islam gets on that list.

  21. LCDR_Fish

    Just finished the remastered bluray of a fun little English flick – The Man in the White Suit. Humorous and entertaining in a weirdly English counter-Randian way. I do need to look up more of the Ealing flicks that have finally been getting HD releases.

    • Ted S.

      I really enjoy Alec Guinness in that one, and it goes well with I’m Alright Jack although the latter isn’t an Ealing picture, I believe.

      For a good lesser-known Ealing comedy, try Whisky Galore!. For dramas, try It Always Rains on Sunday or The Long Arm (also known as The Third Key).

      • LCDR_Fish

        There was just another box set released (reviewed by cinesavant a few weeks back) – pretty sure it includes at least one of those titles. Will probably look for it in a few months.

    • straffinrun

      That’s excellent.

    • blackjack

      Was expecting this. Maybe it was too much thinking, but that is, what I said before, a falsehood.

    • Count Potato

      Ah, back when sampling was still new.

  22. Fourscore

    One day, in the future, say 2050, some of us (you) will be discussing The Old Days with your grand children. Every story starts out “When I was a kid” or “Back in 2020” and you will relate some of the things that are now happening. Accuracy is important but since no one is going to correct you you will do the best as you remember. In the next 30-40 years there will be a lot of changes, some subtly, some rather suddenly (as may be happening right now) but will not be deemed important to your grandchildren, since they will only know the present.

    Just as you now reflect on growing up in ’70s-’80s-’90s and can see the differences that have happened and perhaps long for a quieter, more peaceful time. I sometimes wish that I would be around at that time but I’m having a helluva time with watching today’s hysteria. I feel lucky to be able to watch from a distance, even if I don’t see things so clearly. I can’t believe that for many people things will be better. Many of us, maybe most, are living a better lifestyle than our parents and certainly more comfortable than our grandparents.

    I’m not so optimistic about the future of my grandchildren and not a bit optimistic for my great grandchildren. The last few months have been a real eye opener.

    • Don Escaped the Virus . . . remember the virus?

      Whatever happened to the 50k libertarians moving to NH? Are they marching for BLM?

    • straffinrun

      That’s why I moved to the Eastern Roman Empire.

      • Jarflax

        That ottoman work out well for you.

      • straffinrun

        I converted that into a foot rest.

    • Derpetologist

      I have tried to write a new Tuesdays With Derpy episode about the great virus panic of 2020. I have trouble making the jokes work.

      Humanity has survived for a long time and overcome obstacles far worse than what we face. I can’t promise the future will be pretty, but I’m pretty sure there will be people there as long as this planet can support life (about 600 million years left).

      ***
      The luminosity of the Sun will steadily increase, resulting in a rise in the solar radiation reaching the Earth. This will result in a higher rate of weathering of silicate minerals, which will cause a decrease in the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. In about 600 million years from now, the level of carbon dioxide will fall below the level needed to sustain C3 carbon fixation photosynthesis used by trees. Some plants use the C4 carbon fixation method, allowing them to persist at carbon dioxide concentrations as low as 10 parts per million. However, the long-term trend is for plant life to die off altogether. The extinction of plants will be the demise of almost all animal life, since plants are the base of the food chain on Earth.[12]
      ***

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Earth

    • Suthenboy

      Given the perspective you have because of your age Fourscore I will mention this: My Grandfather died in 1985. He was nearly 100…or he may have been over 100. He didnt know his age because there was no record of his birth, he just had a general idea.
      One of the stories he told me was that he and his brothers when they were very young would walk through the hills to an old man’s house. They liked to visit him because he told good stories and he had an Irish accent. Also, when the old man was young he had worked for Thomas Jefferson.

      Get that? I am two people, my grandfather and that old man, removed from Thomas Jefferson.

      You are correct in what you say and everyone here should take that to heart. How much has our culture changed since the founding of the country?

      *reminds of me of the joke ‘Americans think 100 years is a long time. The English think 100 miles is a long way. ‘

    • Count Potato

      I liked them better on the roof.

      • Chafed

        Hi-yo!

    • Gustave Lytton

      I always expand that acronym as a variant of the BTK killer: Bind Torture Sing.

    • Jarflax

      Jerk off before you get drunk?

      • Count Potato

        Isn’t that like Chinese food?

    • Rebel Scum

      Porn is basically free…

  23. westernsloper

    The wind today is crazy. It blew the door open on my smoker and broke the bottom latch thing (I wanted an excuse to get a new smoker anyways) and I had to finish my roast in the oven. Now I must go eat rare to medium rare roast beef warmed in aus jus and macaroni and cheese. You fine people have a fine rest of your weekend and a great week!

    • Sean

      Oh, the humanity! ?

    • Festus

      I read that as “anus juice”. Carry on.

    • Jarflax

      So white noise matters?

    • straffinrun

      I can’t be quiet nor can I say something they disagree with. I’m not seeing a viable option here.

    • Rebel Scum

      The Bee parodied that, but just barely.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Shut the door/Keep out the COVID
        Shut the door/Keep the COVID in the niiiight
        Shut the door/Keep out the COVID
        Light a candle/Everything all riiight
        Light a candle/Everything all right

  24. Count Potato

    “Minneapolis City Council to Announce Commitment to Disband City’s Police Department

    After nearly two weeks of violence, mayhem, and rioting in Minneapolis, their city council has announced their intent to disband the police department.

    The wild proposal would invest in “community-led public safety” instead of police officers.

    “We are here today because George Floyd was killed by the Minneapolis Police Department. We are also here because, here in Minneapolis and in cities across the United States, it is clear that our existing system of policing and public safety isn’t working for so many of our neighbors,” Minneapolis City Council President Lisa Bender said in a written statement Sunday, obtained by the Appeal. “Our efforts at incremental reform have failed.”

    The effort has a veto-proof majority in the council, and many of the members have been extremely publicly outspoken about their disdain for the police department.”

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/minneapolis-city-council-announce-commitment-disbanding-citys-police-department/

    Wait, what?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “community-led public safety“

      So, The Red Guards? Seriously, if this was done in a thoughtful way I’d be all for it but this is going to be some sloppily implemented dangerous bullshit.

      • straffinrun

        Unaccountable goons with guns in the right hands will solve the racial angle.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        If I was white person living in that city I think I’d be planning an exit strategy.

      • Suthenboy

        If they haven’t already they are about to.

      • Suthenboy

        I should have added: An awful lot of black people are going to do the same. They are about to turn the city into Addis Ababa on the Mississippi.

      • LJW

        So how will they enforce their gun laws?

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        LMAOOO. Good point.

        They really didn’t think this one through.

      • straffinrun

        By passing a law.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      When you lose the libertarians on a reduce-police-power strategy, you know you have gone off the rails.

      • Count Potato

        So they get re-hired by the new police force?

      • peachy rex

        Which will be set up by the new Republican city council.

    • CPRM

      Meh, just leaving a vacuum for the sheriffs and the highway patrol.

    • Urthona

      I’m in favor of it.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      What is it with the lawyers behaving badly?

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        There are some normal lawyers, but most of the lawyers I’ve interacted with, whether it be at school, in a small law firm, in a big prestigious law firm, at a company, at a non-profit, or otherwise, they have something in common. Once they start talking, you quickly realize that you’re surrounded by trailer trash with 6 figure incomes. All the drama, all the self-centered idiocy, all the inexplicable short sightedness, only with beemers instead of beaters. Florida Lawyer is just Florida Man in a suit and tie and with a couple extra brain cells.

      • Ozymandias

        I have to say, this is a much better take than people may think.

      • R C Dean

        Yeah, can’t really argue.

      • EvilSheldon

        Robert Whitley is your company attorney? That’s freakin’ awesome! I’ve always wanted a 6mm TurboAR upper…

  25. Yusef _____ too much, insert verb here

    I’m roadtripping to a friends new house tomorrow, but it’s in Cali, I really don’t want to go there, but at least it’s high desert, Phelan

  26. Ozymandias

    Yeah, the whole thing is kinda weird. Surreal is a word that’s been overused, but it’s apt here and now.
    Derpy – you’ve inspired me to start my copy of the Bhagavad. I also have a copy of the Mahabharata that I’m going to get through.
    Suthen – I was going to work on an article about the the morality of reincarnation and what it does to traditional (Western) notions of justice and value of life. It’s still in its early stages, so I’d be curious what you see is the central failing of that notion?

    Cheers to everyone. It’s all good. In truth, something about the whole thing was heartening. They’re just people… trying to belong to something. They’ve been fed complete bullshit and these are the people who believe. Except their supernatural power is real – its government. And it can do no wrong and there’s nothing it shouldn’t be used to correct. But if these are the “footsoldiers” in the coming war, I’m liking my odds. Unless they’re going to hunt me down on their Walmart scooters in the desert. It just feels so… pathetic. I don’t know, maybe the Nazis seemed that way to sensible people right before it suddenly went south, but I don’t think so. I have a feeling we are looking at something… contrived. Right now it’s just blowing from issue to issue in a kind of frenzy.

    • straffinrun

      “ Unless they’re going to hunt me down on their Walmart scooters in the desert.“

      That’s not how they do it. It’s death by 1000 cuntes.

      • straffinrun

        Thanks for the write up, BTW.

    • Derpetologist

      The Mahabharata is about 10x the length of the Iliad. The name basically means: really heavy poem

      maha means great like mahatma (great soul); bharata comes from a word that means to carry

      Oh well, good luck. It’s probably better than Gravity’s Rainbow or In Search of Lost Time.

    • Suthenboy

      “I’d be curious what you see is the central failing of that notion?”

      Fatalism.
      It results in a sapping of ambition or the desire to solve problems.
      Example: Myself and two other people have had Indian doctors diagnose us and the prognosis was “Oh well y ou have XYZ. You are fucked.”
      All three of us have moved to non-Indian doctors who said “Here are the treatment options. This one works very effectively and you are definitely not fucked…at least not yet.”

      20 years ago a dot Indian doctor told me I would die in ten years and spend the last half of that in a wheel chair.
      Yesterday I cut 2 acres of grass with a push mower.

      • Not an Economist

        Not bad for a zombie.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Interesting that you mention that. I was having a conversation with an Indian colleague the other day, and he started talking about Americans’s unhealthy fear of death. I was nodding along with him until he started talking about sacrificing the elderly to covid. The rationale was basically that the elderly got to live a full life, and if it’s their time to go, they should gladly do so in order to provide young people with the opportunity to live life to its fullest.

        It morphed from a recognition of individualism to some perverse collectivist notion that the potential of the young is worth more than the lives of the elderly. It wasn’t a line of thinking I had been exposed to before. I was flashing back to that TNG episode where Troi’s mom falls for the guy who is due up for the death panel the next day.

  27. straffinrun

    Today’s experiment on FB. “I’d rather have my head filled with bad but original ideas than a robot filled with other people’s good ideas.”

    My conservative friends agreed and my left leaning friends gave me a lecture on why that’s wrong at this time.

    • Suthenboy

      The fundamental premises that ‘right’ and ‘left’ leaning people base their outlook on are nearly diametrically opposed. It is why I cant talk to them. We are as different as a fish and a dog.

      What they end up with are non-original very bad ideas.

      • straffinrun

        A couple of 60’s type liberal friends liked the idea. None under 40 though.

      • AlmightyJB

        Was at a bar the other night. To the right of me was Mr. Working class MAGA. Across from me, two young liberal lesbians. We all sat there drinking beer and breaking curfew together and we talked politics. We disagreed on much, and found common ground on a few things. The conversation was civil, respectful, and enjoyable. Of course, this is Central Ohio so that’s not that rare. No, I didn’t go home with the lesbians.

      • Urthona

        Good story but lousy ending.

        Actually, my conversations about politics in real life usually go this way. Social media sucks.

    • AlmightyJB

      Great show.

  28. Count Potato

    “Mayor de Blasio said he was ‘proud’ of his daughter after she was arrested at a protest where fires were being set

    Is he also proud of his daughter’s “F*CK CAPITALISM” tattoo?

    Not to mention her exposing herself on a subway (which I had the unfortunate task of scribbling out)”

    https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/1269078423835521025

    Yikes!

    • Drake

      Did they intentionally raise a crack-whore?

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      The fact that he simultaneously praised his daughter’s behavior and blamed the NYPD for failing to control the riots she was a part of tells you everything you need to know.

      The man is a shit-weasel.

      • AlmightyJB

        Would he have been elected Mayor of NY if he wasn’t?

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        Good point!

      • Chafed

        Touche

    • AlmightyJB

      I used to sing that song to my kids when they were little but I made up completely different lyrics as to what I would do with the million dollars. It cracked them up.

  29. Derpetologist

    for no reason at all

    there are these things called theophoric (god bearing names)

    Christopher (one who holds or bears Christ)

    There are also ones for Yahweh, the common spelling of the Hebrew god

    Zechariah – god remembers
    Nehemiah – god comforts
    Hezekiah – god strengthens
    Obadiah – servant of god

    Abdullah is the Arabic version of Obadiah

    And also for el, that is the word for god in Hebrew

    Daniel – god is my judge
    Rachael – god gives me comfort
    Michael – who is like god?
    Israel – wrestles with god
    Ezekiel – god strengthens

    ‘Aziz means strong in Arabic. It also one of the 99 names of god given in the Koran.

    • CPRM

      Because it’s innate and not controllable?

    • commodious spittoon

      That Malcolm dude is a stone-cold racist.

    • Tejicano

      This is very good. I’ll be following that guy’s videos.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Marginalization of guns continues.

      • Tejicano

        I think of it as the “Japanization” of guns. Most Japanese view guns as an unalloyed bad – the media here really pushes that line hard.

        I’m glad my kids have gotten into “Fortnite” even though I don’t have any interest in it myself. Recently they have a lot more interest in military-grade firearms even if only as digital images.

      • Gustave Lytton

        The LARPing magazines make me laugh.

        https://youtu.be/YMiKRV2Spzs

        The trigger discipline is outstanding for a first timer. Hell, it’s good period.

      • Akira

        I think of it as the “Japanization” of guns. Most Japanese view guns as an unalloyed bad – the media here really pushes that line hard.

        They actually call it “brainwashing”. And that’s not some Alex Jones conspiracy theory; it’s what former AG Eric Holder explicitly said.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        This is not going to be easy–we are having to fight a Constitutionally-protected human right. So, we’re gonna need all the advertisers to help us get people to give up their rights. The ones we find objectionable.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Based on the fetishization of guns in some anime/manga and the strong subculture for airsoft and equivalents, it’s probably a mash-up.

        Eg the massive popularity of gun ranges with Japanese tourists in Guam, Hawaii, Vegas etc.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      So Elmer’s just a short vaguely effeminate fuck with a speech impediment now. Wonderful.

    • Q Continuum

      “But, we can do cartoony violence — TNT, the Acme stuff. All that was kind of grandfathered in”

      Bombs are ok because Leftists like bombs.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        DingToThaMuthaFukkinDing

  30. Gustave Lytton

    Chafed, if you’re still around, sorry was out and missed the question. The book focuses more on narrative, which I thought was good also. More on why and how/how not to do movements, and lots of storytelling including of SF trainers.

    • Chafed

      Thanks

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Yep, that’s blatant propaganda they’re pushing.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Blatant racist propaganda. Their goal is some perverse race based society. The last thing they want is colorblindness or to be judged individually on the content of their character.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Telling. Racial equity, not equality.

    • Chafed

      Tres did they send this to you?

      • Tres Cool

        Yup. Emailed.

      • Chafed

        Jeebus. Making your customers nauseous is a bad marketing strategy.

    • Gender Traitor

      NOOOOOO!!!!! We do most of our grocery shopping at Meijer, but they don’t carry all the varieties I like. And I’d just found a weekend foo foo frappe drink I liked in their “Private Selection” line.

      (Pssst! Tres – for meat, it’s worth it to join Sam’s. Their meat is awesome.)

      • Tres Cool

        Im a Sam’s member. (heh)

        They’ll be getting more of my business too.

    • grrizzly

      I’m proud that I do nothing but manufactured spending with these companies. They always lose money when I “shop” with them. Too bad that the International First class means nothing for the foreseeable future.

  31. Jarflax

    I just finished Far Cry 5 and am very glad I waited till it was $20 to buy it. I really wish game devs would stop with the edgy nihilistic endings. I don’t play games to be lectured on the futility of violence. I recognize the issues with violence already and do not engage in it. Games are an escape.

    • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

      What was the one on set near the Himalayas? Four? Oh man–I had one of the Soviet-style/Chinese over-the-shoulder grenade launchers. one the militia’s jeeps was running up on me, late game, with two soldiers in it. I inadvertently fired a grenade under it, on the passenger side. That dude shot up into the air like he was in a James Bond Aston Martin. In fact, I never even saw the body land. I was in tears over that Looney Toons shit.

  32. dbleagle

    Thomas Sowell does not mince words on the latest BLM/Antifa nonsense:

    “People sometimes ask if I have tried to convince black “leaders” to take a different view on racial issues. Of course not. I wouldn’t spend my time trying to persuade the mafia to give up crime. Why should I spend time trying to convince race hustlers to give up victimhood?”

    • Brochettaward

      Why should I spend time trying to convince race hustlers to give up victimhood?

      This. So much this. And look at how much money is about to be flying around to a whole new generation of race hustlers. All these corporations vowing to spend millions on social justice causes.

  33. Gustave Lytton

    Pikers. Let me know when they buy some black speaker vans to get their message out.

    • straffinrun

      Haven’t seen any of that around here. Good. My guess is that those are all communist party flunkies.

      • Gustave Lytton

        “I can’t sing” signs is the giveaway, right?

  34. Homple

    There have been similar gatherings of sign waving exhibitionists in my little, very white town. Similar horn honking from passing cars.

    A few of the signs read “I can’t breathe”.

    I wish they wouldn’t tease me like that.

    • Chafed

      What’s their total headcount?

      • AlmightyJB

        I don’t know. I’m sure this is a drop in the bucket but still a message.

      • peachy rex

        Thirty thousand-ish.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Mark David Chapman finally got parole?

    • Chafed

      The first few responses…. Smh

  35. Derpetologist

    some Sowell quotes

    The first lesson of economics is scarcity- there is never enough of anything to satisfy all who want it. The first lessons of politics is to ignore the first lesson of economics.

    Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.

    It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

    Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good.

    The most basic question is not what is best, but who shall decide what is best.

    People who enjoy meetings should not be in charge of anything.

    The next time some academics tell you how important diversity is, ask how many Republicans there are in their sociology department.

    Freedom has cost too much blood and agony to be relinquished at the cheap price of rhetoric.

    Each new generation born is in effect an invasion of civilization by little barbarians, who must be civilized before it is too late.

    If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.

    The welfare state is not really about the welfare of the masses. It is about the egos of the elites.

    • Akira

      People who enjoy meetings should not be in charge of anything.

      Good fucking lord, THIS.

      Every “plan meeting” function on the company email server should have a popup that asks, “Why is this not a group email instead?”

    • Chafed

      He is brilliant. Even more so because he is pithy.

    • Tejicano

      Sometimes I can really hear the Marine in some of the things Tomas Sowell says.

  36. straffinrun

    We could solve all our problems if our police force were made up of only white women.

  37. Yusef _____ too much, insert verb here

    Thanks for being my Friends……….

    • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

      #PalsAndConfidants

      • Yusef _____ too much, insert verb here

        I’m menially fading. I cant handle losing Wendy, I thought was OK but no………
        I’m losing it…….

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        You’ve been keeping on, each day, Yu. Small steps, and keep reminding yourself all that you’ve been able to accomplish.

        Please don’t forgo finding a support group in your area.

      • Derpetologist

        Be glad that you had her at all. It’s more than some can say. You are not your emotions. If you pray, do not pray for an easy life. Instead pray for the strength to endure a hard one. Tough times don’t last, but tough people do.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzMuIlZhPfA

        In Greek, Epictetus means owned. He was a slave with few pleasures or possessions.

      • Yusef _____ too much, insert verb here

        This, and thanks, I’m glad to have had a great Lady,
        I…….

    • Brochettaward

      What on earth is this supposed to accomplish?

      The complete and final demoralization of Western civilization. It’s dead, folks. It was good while it lasted.

    • slumbrew

      Nothing. They know nothing, so it’s just “dead white man = bad”.

      Hell, it’s “statue = bad” – they vandalized a memorial to an African-American Civil War regiment. They vandalized a statue of Gandhi.

      • slumbrew

        “African-American Civil War regiment” makes it sound like there was a war between African-Americans, but you know what I mean.

      • Chafed

        I do. I saw your post about it the other day. It’s bewildering.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Check your email, plz/ty.

    • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

      Well, maybe….they’ve taken on a more nuanced view of ol’ Abe?

      I got nuthin’. Same with them.

  38. Yusef _____ too much, insert verb here

    Fuck this, Adios! Yusef is out!

  39. Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

    If it hasn’t already made its way here (an, courtesy of Vhy, over at the Discord): STEVE SMITH on “forcible sax”

    • Gender Traitor

      Mornin’, UCS. It looks like a lovely morning outside around here. How are you?

      • UnCivilServant

        Got a lovely bruise on my little toe from finding my bedpost in the dark. Need to do laundry. Remembered to take the trash out. Have a lot of delivery boxes to break down from the excess online ordering over the past while.

      • Gender Traitor

        Owwwwww!

        Speaking of delivery boxes from online ordering, my current First World Problem involves a knitting accessory I ordered back on May 21st, something I need to finish my latest project. I received the shipping confirmation on the 22nd, and it said the package was coming from Columbus, OH, via DHL. Per the tracking history, it next surfaced on May 28th in Hebron, KY (presumably DHL’s hub adjacent to the Cincy airport.) From there, it was supposedly handed off to the USPS on the 29th. The USPS didn’t acknowledge its existence until June 7th, at which point they sent it back to their processing center…in Columbus. It now says it’s scheduled for delivery on June 11th, three weeks after I ordered it.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’ve never had good experiences with DHL.

        Luckily they’re not popular around here, so I oft forget they’re one of the big players in the parcel business.

      • Festus

        Post office is still going crazy with packages even though retail has opened again. Edmonton and Vancouver run 24/7 and our plant doesn’t. It’s Xmas time in June with no hands on deck. Clear the space, people! This warehouse needs cleaning!

    • Sean

      Mornin’

  40. Not an Economist

    Any body besides me think some people are pushing for a return to a feudal society. Where the rich and powerful have access to protection and us peasants, well we just have to accept being robbed and murdered for the greater good.

    • UnCivilServant

      Who you lumping in with the peasants?

      Peasants do productive labor.

      • Festus

        Yes. Yes we do. Mornin’ Glibs! I was feeling pretty sanguine about the state of the world until I came home and caught up with the links. I don’t want to lick the boot for the next eight years just because I’m White-ish. Please tell me that this will all blow over soon. I beg of you…

      • Not an Economist

        I’m more thinking that if you aren’t rich and powerful, then you are a peasant.

      • UnCivilServant

        Even during fuedal times there were more than two classes.

      • Festus

        Great. I get to taste the dainty slipper rather than the shoe. That makes me feel a whole lot better.

    • Don Escaped the Virus . . . remember the virus?

      Serfs didn’t have Sigs, cellphones, or ammo delivery via parcel post.

      But you do need to pick your friends and neighbors better. And that armed society takes a little thinking: the consequences of your actions are greater, and walking more lightly might be a good plan for some. Your security might look different: do you have a perimeter? Do you believe in fences? Do you look and act like a victim? Does your wife actively participate in her safety?

      • Not an Economist

        Well if our self-proclaimed betters have their way, you won’t have a Sig or ammo. And you will only be allowed to use your cell phone for pre-approved purposes and say only pre-approved things.-

      • Don Escaped the Virus . . . remember the virus?

        That’s certainly not new; there’s no comfort that this ancap can offer you but that you might have a chance to die for something meaningful sooner.

      • Festus

        Caring has gone to a tepid boil. I can keep my groin to the grindstone for another twenty-five years and still end up just as dead and broke-ass as my Dad was. Kinda bleak.

  41. Sean

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/07/forrest-fenn-treasure-rocky-mountains-found

    Famed art and antiquities collector Forrest Fenn, who said he hid $1m in treasure in the Rocky Mountain wilderness a decade ago, said Sunday that the chest of goods has been found.

    Fenn, 89, told the Santa Fe New Mexican that a treasure hunter located the chest a few days ago. The man who found it does not want his name mentioned.

    • Gender Traitor

      I was tickled to hear that. We’d watched the episode of Expedition Unknown about it.

    • Festus

      At least four people died trying to find it. I wonder what he feels about that? Probably “Dumbass”.

      • Festus

        Sorry. As mentioned above, I’m not feeling the good today…