Welcome back, PGA!
Man, what a fun weekend we had. Better than that of baseball fans who thought the players and league might get their act together and get a deal done. Fuck em. Golf is back. Soccer is back in Spain as well, with England coming back this week.
That man could pound em.
Mobster Sam Giancana was born on this day. He shares it with commie douche Yuri Andropov, actor Lash LaRue, jazzman Erroll Garner, politician with bad sperm Mario Cuomo, baseball player and manager Dusty “The Lizard” Baker, another commie douche Winnie the Pooh Xi Jinping, beer connoisseur and baseball player Wade Boggs, actresses Helen Hunt and Courtney Cox, recently-outed antisemite and onetime rapper Ice Cube, and Starship Troopers actor Neil Patrick Harris.
Interesting list there. Now on to…the links!
Don’t get excited, it’s about to drop again.
The stock market is shitting the bed. Thanks a lot, Corona.
Florida increases Corona testing. Well, that’s how it should read. Since the death counts are staying steady or dropping. But that’s not how it’s being played. I’m sure politics has nothing to do with it.
Expect more of this retardation.
First they came for the confederate statues, but I said nothing. Then they came for statues of the founding fathers. And I’m pretty sure most of the people out there will continue to say nothing. Hell, they’re defacing statues of noted abolitionists and tombs of unknown soldiers already. Pretty soon, these assholes will erase history altogether if they’re not stopped. Don’t believe me? Read on…
They’re about to start renaming places. Columbus, Ohio is reportedly on the chopping block wish list as well. And Lynchburg, VA…which would be hilariously ironic assuming these idiots know anything about the guy it was named after.
I assume this will be problematic.
In before the “but they have insurance” crowd. Also, I’m seeing reports that the business which had nothing to do with anything aside from wanting their drive-thru lane opened is owned by a black man. The irony.
They’ve got Trump for sure this time. LOL, this is ridiculous. What’s next, they’ll attack him for how he took a drink of wat…oh, FFS. They did that too.
Biden has narrowed his list of potential running mates. Kamala Harris, noted asshole cop, is on it. Which is just hilarious to me.
This I have no problem with whatsoever. Although explaining it to my kids is gonna be difficult.
Here you go. I’m getting back to my generation this week. Hope you enjoy.
Now go have a great day, friends. We’re going to the zoo.
“The stock market is shitting the bed. Thanks a lot, Corona.”
If it drops that 600 points, then it will only be down to 25,000. That’s still 1,500 up from where it was hovering after the lockdowns hit.
The $3 trillion has got to wear off sometime.
I don’t think anyone thinks that shutting down businesses is good. Then again, the stock market seems more like a casino than tethered to the actual economy.
I like those trying to blame the tiny fraction of money coming from Robin Hood for the market instability.
The Democrats think it’s GREAT! They’re destroying their own districts and somewhat successfully are laying it at the feet of Trump.
^This. Democrat governors are holding their economies down for nothing to do with COVID because they think it will hurt Trump in November.
The stock market has a longer time horizon than people over analyzing the daily news.
So, it’ll be The Columbus, Ohio? Are they going to fix the centuries old misspelling of Cleveland as well?
I wonder how many pols will succumb before somebody finally tells the griefers to go fuck themselves?
Far too many.
I mean we’ve also appropriated a bunch of native American names for our places as well. Are those okay, or do we need to change them to something else?
Yes, in fact we need a new name for Illinois. Greased palms doesn’t quite roll of the tounge. I’ll have to think on this.
Corruptistan?
Graftopolis.
More for the city of Chicago than the state,but I like it. Gaftopolis, Coruptistan for Chicago, Illinois
Commienois
Also, Indiana. Much problematic.
Big Gun?
Indianapolis Indiana becomes Shootsville Guniana?
I miss the days of the traveling THE.
RIP edsbs
Will they be traveling down to Colombia to tell them how racist the name of their country is? How about the District of Columbia? Columbia University?
Oh wait: none of those places are in icky, hateful, Deploraland Middle America.
New York is gonna be a problem. James II (previously the Duke of York) actually had a monopoly on the British slave trade.
But I bet he gets a pass. Because reasons.
Manhattan will have to go, too, because cultural appropriation. It can be re-named MegaWokeTown.
forget cultural appropriation, it’s sexist.
Shehattan, taking herstoric steps for all of xekind.
those damn extra-woke secret Jacobites!
Revert it to New Amsterdam, because the Dutch probably never did anything bad, right?
I can’t say.
People just liked it better that way.
They’ll “fix” it when they find someone in his lineage who owned slaves. Or who wouldn’t wear the ribbon.
The story is that it was either a newspaper title dropping the A, or it being written incorrectly on the original map.
I always assumed it was because nothing in Cleveland earned an A
“Florida reported record levels of new COVID-19 cases this weekend as more beaches reopened in the Sunshine State.”
This is not a boating accident. Anyway, the number of hospitalizations is what is important.
In related news,
“Data scientist releases her own coronavirus statistics after being fired from Florida’s department of health – as spike in infections in the state forces some restaurants to close again”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8420629/Fired-Florida-data-scientist-launches-COVID-19-dashboard-restaurants-forced-close-again.html
I note that everyone is being super careful to avoid saying that gathering in large crowds for hours at a time yelling and such might have played a role in increasing the spread.
Jefferson? Really? What a bunch of assholes.
He’s not moving on up.
Remember those “best timeline” posts?
Well, I haven’t seen any of those in a while.
It’s a little more than assholes I think.
And if Americans don’t bother to defend it. Turn the country over. It’s done.
The first thing they should do is put one right back up as soon as things settle.
You can’t give into the mob.
It’s Portland.
The “authorities” sure as shit won’t do it; they agree with everything the “protesters” are doing. Regular citizens, if they tried, would get attacked and even if they succeeded would probably get arrested on some made-up charge.
I think proposals of breaking the country up peacefully really need to start seriously being entertained.
Looks like it because if they’re going after the identity and history like this….The Constitution is absolutely on the docket.
Buckle up buckaroos.
I see many-much problems up ahead.
Yes. Yes, I blame the progressive left and the Democrat party of the United States. And the party isn’t going to govern in any manner construed as ‘moderate’ anymore. That’s gone. Caput. Finito.
They’re clearly jumping on the far left, BLM bull shit wagon.
They may be degenerates in that party but they ain’t stupid. They must see there’s a winning formula in that.
And this mighty troubling.
I’m not sure many of them look any further than the next election. And this one is the biggest one ever for them, or so they say. All they want is to get rid of Trump; they can’t see they’re advocating burning down the village to save it.
A deeper question is after Trump, what’s next for the Republican Party? Will they “repent” and put up nice proggy-curious candidates, or go completely in another direction? Trump, for all his many faults, is a symptom and response to the Republicans’ long term playing of their base for votes with no delivering on their promises.
Keep an eye on Dan Crenshaw.
I see what you did there
And of course the GOP is so cucked they won’t take a stand, even though it would be electoral gold right now. They’re too afraid of being called mean names by the big scary media and poopyheads on Twitter.
There’s no doubt in my mind if the GOP went on the offensive they’d be speaking to a large segment of the population. They’d clean up. This situation calls for a simple push back and defense of the nation.
I’m almost certain people want a politician to speak out.
Funny you say that Rufus as the progressive candidates for Senate in the Dem primaries all lost.
Good.
Is there a list?
Your labor enacted.
I suppose we have to raise UVA, you know, because of the obvious reason that
it was built by Thomas Jeffersonit is full of stuck up pricks.But what about the Zima sales?
raze*…
Need coffee.
I like the reporting – “It wasn’t clear who did it or whether they were involved in the Black Lives Matter demonstration there hours before. ”
Like the reporting from Atlanta: “The GBI alleges that he points a taser at officers” as they show me video that is unambiguous on that point.
“the “but they have insurance” crowd.”
None of whom understand how insurance works.
I do have an insurance question. So in Philly during the looting numerous pharmacies (something like 130) were robbed. The owner of one pharmacy claimed to have, something like, $500K in inventory stolen and she said that inventory loss was “uninsurable”. Can that be right?
Sure, if her carrier said it was and she didn’t find another. Virtually anything is legally insurable…at a price. It just might take a little time and effort to find someone willing to write the policy.
And it might be that no one will write insurance for drugs in Philly.
I’d be willing to bet it’s other inventory. Possibly spoilable food, if she had any? Pharmacies are required to keep meticulous counts on their prescription meds for government compliance. I’d imagine that would be the easiest of her inventory to insure for that reason alone.
It is also the obvious target for theft. How many other products can you fence for greater than their retail value?
I believe the opiates (etc) would be locked in a safe overnight.
Your allergy meds and hormone-based contraceptives would be behind a floor-to-ceiling metal gate.
I believe the issue is loss due to civil unrest being uninsured under many policies.
Easy, but expensive. You know the insurance premium for that store just went up. Probably spells the end of that business. I’m sure the lunatic leftists will cry about how expensive insurance is and want government to insure everything…
They’ll also bitch and moan about businesses leaving these communities because business owners are racist and greedy capitalists. Nevermind that their ability to do business in these communities got markedly more expensive after they were looted and/or burned down. Nope, it’s not the rioters. It’s those greedy people who want to safely turn a profit who are the problem.
No doubt they won’t reopen this pharmacy. And you’re right the complaint will now be lack of access to necessary medicine in this particular neighborhood.
Drug desert?
Suthen, we call that “Bat Country”
I prefer a drug dessert.
So, its possible the theft rate is so high that no carrier is willing to insure that inventory at a premium a pharmacy is willing to pay? The owner means her inventory was uninsurable from a dollars and cents standpoint. Given this pharmacy was in Kensington, that very well could be true I guess.
There’s a reason food deserts exist, and it isn’t because nobody in those neighborhoods wants to eat.
I know I say this every time “food deserts” get brought up, but…
According to the USDA’s “Food Desert Locator Tool”, I live in a food desert. Within this alleged food desert is:
– The biggest Kroger in the state of Ohio
– A family-run meat market that mostly sells local stuff
– A farmer’s market in the summer
– A bulk health foods store
– Countless non-fastfood restaurants
The criteria must be bullshit.
If you add in the poverty rate and means of transportation to get to that Kroger–especially if public transportation isn’t good–then it starts becoming an issue.
The other thing is the rate at which grocery stores in urban cores get stolen from and vandalized, which compounds the problem.
“Pharmacy deserts”
/This is CNN
They also don’t know how business, self-reliance, private property, rights of the minority, free speech, capitalism, or just about anything else works.
It all works because **science**
I bet most of the idiots writing that on Twitter and FB have never filed a property insurance claim. I know people whose homes were damaged or destroyed in hurricane Michael (October ’18) who still have not been made whole.
Why do you care about stuff more than peoples lives?
“Dow set to fall 600 points as fears of a coronavirus surge grow in the US and China”
CNN tries unsuccessfully to hide its erection.
Buy the f’ing dip?
F’ing Dip, now available in 55gal size.
We’re going to the zoo.
Excellent.
Hey, Brooks. Hope your troubles have eased up.
We’ve already been at the zoo since March.
“And Lynchburg, VA…which would be hilariously ironic assuming these idiots know anything about the guy it was named after.”
Just tell them it was named after Che Guevara.
Laugh but I totally see them replacing a Jefferson statue with Lenin. Or renaming a city Trotskyville.
Nope. They’ll argue about it and nothing else will happen. Leninists and Trotskyites will fight over the first little nubs growing in the Freedom gardens.
Why not? King County (Washington) retconned its name from some old white dude to MLK some years ago.
Seriously? That’s absolutely pathetic.
Yep. Even Wikipedia covered the retconning.
John Lynch ///problematic
I eagerly await the reporters hounding Biden on his take on tearing down the Jefferson statue.
“racial justice protests”
Right.
“Imma burn down Wendy’s cuase she be White!”
Redheads are a minority.
A yummy minority!
Seconded.
‘ginger’ and ‘nigger’ are anagrams.
Coincidence?
“Thomas Jefferson statue toppled in Portland, Oregon”
Man those white supremacist rioters are getting out of control I tell ya.
Tell me about it.
I’m worried people are apathetic to it.
Sir John A. MacDonald used to drink a lot. He didn’t cotton to brown folk shooting at white folk over much.
And yet, they still took him down. They even went after James McGill.
He changed his name to Saul Goodman.
They’re counting on it. See: the last 30 or 40 years of history.
Well, then it’s really over. It was a nice run.
Write a book about it and hopefully it’s good enough to stand the test of time when it’s rediscovered in some not too far off dystopia.
/blows dust from book. What’s this? Wow. This Thomas Jefferson fella spoke sense! This document is beautiful!
But the odds of that happening are long. Rome never became a great Republic again.
I can’t listen to the regular news, anymore. So much anger. Fury building. It’s all lies, damned lies and the media! I won’t go on a rampage but what the fuck? This site is the only soothing balm in a sea of bullshit.
Just register amusement at their flailing antics. Anger is harmful to you.
beer connoisseur and baseball player Wade Boggs
That’s what one of the greatest for average hitters of a generation gets. Sheesh, ‘spose Tony Gwynn was just a Padre, too.
Oh come on. Was I supposed to do a bio and list his career stats?
I went so far as to give him a photo. That’s high praise around these parts.
Never liked any of the Red Sox of that era too much except Boggs. Growing up in rural Wisconsin, it was easy to imagine him selling our family a Buick or an Evinrude outboard. Hence my soft spot.
Yeah. Boggs always seemed like a regular guy.
Cubs HOFer Billy Williams didnt even get mentioned.
Neither did Andy Petitte, Brett Butler, Lance Parish, or Dusty Baker.
It was a good day for baseball birthdays.
On 2nd look, Baker got mentioned. But the 4 guys in between got screwed.
Petitte was a workhorse. Maybe not the lights out guy every night, but, man, did he pull that rotation through some tough times.
Pettitte was a Yankee. Therefore I don’t care about him on principle.
In other Yankees news…sounds like they’re hypocrites in the whole sign-stealing fiasco:
https://thespun.com/more/mlb/astros-star-trolls-yankees-star-aaron-judge-amid-cheating-rumors
Pettitte was also (briefly and unfortunately) an Astro
FYI Parrish has 2 R’s. (He was my favorite of the 1984 Tigers)
Some time after the march moved on to a local park, the statue was toppled.
It wasn’t clear who did it or whether they were involved in the Black Lives Matter demonstration there hours before.
The wind blew it over.
Unbelievable.
Totally unrelated white supremacists pulled it down for repairs.
They had to rip it down because they forgot their statue removal tools and uniforms.
People did keep “social distancing” while the vandalism continued…
That’s some crack investigative reporting there.
“Kamala Harris, noted asshole cop, is on it. Which is just hilarious to me.”
I think she is going to get because she’s the worst.
I welcome my new Caramel Overlord!
Why do the Democrats want me to vote Trump?
Because they hate America, the western world and all it stands for.
I think Warren would worse TBH. But she’s from the wrong collective and therefore won’t get it.
Woo
Here’s a little song for some of us out there
People try to take my stuff away
But you won’t see it on the news today
They’ll try to tell you there’s nothing to see
Summer of Love Part Two – ‘xcept for me
This was my business, it helped me to earn
A decent living, but now it burns
These are crazy, crazy, crazy, Crazy Years
These are crazy, crazy, crazy, Crazy Years
Guess what they’ll be advertising.
Well… let me tell you.
Listen, if it ends the Everton Angry Birds nonsense, I’m all for it.
New main sponsor for next year, I think Everton will be the only EPL club sponsored by a British company.
There were questions about the Angry Birds sleeve on toffeeweb too. No answer on that yet.
I want all the jersey sponsors to end.
Next you will want NASCAR to drive cars with a solid paint color.
Racing stripes are an unfair advantage.
lolright
Not me. Those sponsorships keep ticket and tv subscription prices down a bit.
ECONOMICS DOESNT WORK THAT WAY.
Tickets and tv subscriptions are at the price that the market bears. If we didn’t have shirt sponsorships, players would make a bit less and owners would make a bit less. Ticket prices would be the same.
Salaries are also at a price the market will bear. And that Middle East oil money and those from Russian oligarchs saw to it that they would explode.
I doubt seriously that the cost of player salaries would dip if the sponsorship deals went away.
“Black Lives Matter”; literally nobody is arguing that they don’t. This whole thing is just a grift set up to benefit the Democrats.
Like I said before – stroke of fucking genius.
Hey, Brooks. Hope your troubles have eased up.
I wouldn’t say “eased up”, but things are headed to a resolution. My dad has been admitted to hospice care, in the same place as my mom, so they can at least be together again for a little while. They nave been married for 68 years. He’s going downhill fast, but not as fast as he’d prefer. He wants to go.
Thanks for the good wishes.
That’s tough. Physically lost my old man a little while back, but I had lost him a lot longer before that. Glad you guys kept your closeness after all those years.
Ah, shit Man. Good wishes from me to you. Sorry to learn…
You’re a good son. I’m glad they are together.
I hope his last days are peaceful.
Sorry.
I hope their last days are peaceful.
“NYC fires back at Cuomo’s threat to shut down Manhattan over social distancing
Mayor Bill de Blasio on Sunday fired back at Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s threat to shut down Manhattan again if the city didn’t enforce social-distancing better — saying through a rep that “imprisoning people” isn’t the answer.
“We must balance safety with people’s need to reopen their businesses,” a City Hall spokeswoman said in an e-mail.
“We had social distancing ambassadors out all weekend distributing masks and encouraging people to disperse after making their purchases.
“These businesses are allowed to be open per the Governor’s guidelines and we don’t believe imprisoning people or taking away their livelihood is the answer.”
Hours earlier, Cuomo had announced that he would close down Manhattan and the Hamptons on Long Island again amid the coronavirus if their “local governments” didn’t do a better job reining in scofflaws who aren’t properly social distancing and wearing masks, particularly outside bars and restaurants.”
https://nypost.com/2020/06/14/de-blasio-fires-back-at-cuomos-threat-to-shut-down-manhattan-again/
Retard fight!
That they have social distancing ambassadors (called ‘Champions’) in the UK, is troubling all on its own.
2020 can’t end fast enough.
People really are going to allow themselves to be bullied on one end from coronavirus protocols and BLM demands on the other?
I’m feeling the anger from up here!
2020 can’t end fast enough.
You do realize the authoritarianism will be worse in 2021, don’t you? The ratchet only works one way.
D House, Senate and Presidency is our secret nightmare right about now. They will grow the Supreme Court by at least six spaces. If it doesn’t work this time they’ll do it come 2024. They will win then and Dog help us all.
My case of 00 12 gauge came in, so at least I have that going for me.
At least you’ll have an honor guard in hell.
I know. But I dream.
we don’t believe imprisoning people or taking away their livelihood is the answer
Micromanaging their movements and interactions, however….
Gretchen Whitler begs to differ.
On the bright side, he’ll get preferential service and free delivery from Uber Eats after they rebuild.
“Donald Trump’s niece reveals in new book that she leaked details of his ‘fraudulent’ tax schemes, alleges he contributed to his brother’s death and says his retired federal judge sister disapproves of him”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8420815/Donald-Trumps-niece-writing-harrowing-salacious-book-confirming-leaked-tax-returns.html
“Sources close to the conversation said”
Mammary Monday sez “- .. – …”
http://archive.li/qMB5r
Ordinarily I’m not really into redheads, but #10 could jog on my treadmill. #44 looks great even when she’s dressed in toilet seat covers, so.
“Not into redheads”… *removes Pat from Xmas card list*
4 frightens me
#7 is on point.
#10.
#49
Actually, this is just an overall good gallery.
Yeah, but how much money does he have to send back to The Man?
In 6 months we will be told we are evil because nobody wants to open businesses in that community…
“Social change usually doesn’t happen through democracy”
War it is then.
Also: “Denver Public School Board member Tay Anderson put Stapleton on notice with a tweet Saturday morning in which he said the community would ‘have ONE WEEK to change their name … if they do NOT we will march through their neighborhood to show them #BlackLivesMatter.'”
Your tax money pays this person to “educate” your children.
Capitulated:
Update: On June 14, the Stapleton Master Community Association announced it is “taking steps to remove the name ‘Stapleton’ as it relates to the community and its operations.”
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/06/13/denver-protests-stapleton-tay-anderson/
This is an easy fix, Stapletown.
They could just call it “Stapes” as my son calls a local road, Staples Mill Rd/
Staples Mill Rd (Rte 33) is racist because it terminates at Monument Avenue. Therefore it needs to be leveled. Hell, Rte 33 needs to be leveled altogether because it’s called Jefferson Hwy elsewhere.
Man, there are gonna be some people totes irritated that their inflated Monument Ave house values take a hit when the statues are all gone.
Just stick to numbering systems from here on out I guess.
and make sure you skip 8
get Staples to sponsor it?
Rename it Romneytown?
Staples Town
You even get an anthem.
So when will the Democratic Party be cast aside as the historic proponents of slavery and Jim Crow?
“THE PARTEEEZ SWITCHED!!!!111!!!!!”
/lefty idiot
Maybe he just got tired and decided to take a break from standing up like Herself did in 2016. Or maybe he forgot where he was and had to reorient himself, like BIden.
Clearly, he’s in worse health than Hillary or Biden.
It’s so obvious they are just trying to re-frame the health narrative away from Biden it’s shocking anyone would actually fall for it.
Mayor Bill de Blasio on Sunday fired back at Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s threat to shut down Manhattan again if the city didn’t enforce social-distancing better — saying through a rep that “imprisoning people” isn’t the answer.
“We must balance safety with people’s need to reopen their businesses,” a City Hall spokeswoman said in an e-mail.
Even somebody as obtusely stupid as Deblasio eventually sees the writing on the wall.
We could just cancel DC entirely…
So. Will they go after John Harvard soon? After all, he was a – gasp! – white and a clergyman. I mean. That shit hole is now woke, no?
Wasn’t MLK a Republican, gun owner, Christian preacher?
Excellent music choice! Love that song. ?
Britpop from the Chicago suburbs. Frontman Jim Ellison killed himself in 1996 at 32 years old.
At what point is the government no longer legitimate? I’ve been reluctantly paying taxes for my whole life. Now, communists are literally burning, rioting, targeting and destroying peoples lives and property and the governments have done NOTHING. In fact, in a few places the government officials are openly encouraging this behavior but only for a certain group of people.
What’s next?
Well it’s not good.
At what point is the government no longer legitimate?
At what point was it ever legitimate? I am not an ancap and I still can’t answer that.
It becomes illegitimate when you decide it’s illegitimate. If that isn’t the case, then you’re either a serf or a slave.
The first time it initiates force for a purpose other than protecting the rights of it citizens?
So, most common answer is “the founding”.
What’s next?
The shoosting begins? ///buthopefullynot
At what point is the government no longer legitimate?
When it fails to do its basic job to keep the peace.
Don’t get excited, it’s about to drop again.
I buy in every two weeks, drops get me more shares, so are good things (as long as it recovers in the next decade).
SEATTLE’S CHAZ: HOMESTEADERS OR ILLEGAL SQUATTERS?
Whether their claim is valid comes down to whether they are illegal squatters or righteous Lockean homesteaders. In a densely settled area like Seattle, with a long history of property titles flowing from valid sales, the question becomes absurd. Their protests and encampments directly affect the undisputed private property all around them. The Seattle government has thoroughly controlled the roads and police using funds forcibly taxed from Seattle residents. Capitol Hill residents, businesses, and visitors rely and depend on existing understandings and contractual arrangements. Seattle cannot be homesteaded, not even city property, in any conceivable manner that does justice to its current inhabitants. And to the extent that they’ve paid for it all through taxes, their right to evict the CHAZ protestors clearly supercedes any “right” to conflate occupation with protest.
I’ve seen a lot of dumb takes from ostensibly Ancap types (looking at you Malice and Kokesh), but this makes a lot more sense to me.
1. Lockean homesteading is wrong anyway.
2. Someone tried to create a AZ inside of CHAZ and was shut down (much like the CSA constitution didnt allow for states to secede).
Mixing labor with undeveloped land and making a claim on it is wrong? There are many objections to Locke, (I’d agree it falls short on a few points) but what is yours?
That that is not a legitimate means to claim ownership of land.
I agree with Mises on it…its pure might makes right. Almost all land is stolen from the previous owner, it is just at some point we are civilized enough to say “STOP” and declare a better system from that point on, and use deeds/rule of law/property rights.
Which is why I also agree with Henry George on land ownership. George says that all land is owned by everyone, but that individual property rights is the best way to use it productively. But the economic rents are still owned by all.
The Mises/George theory of land ownership is my major lean to utilitarianism, mostly because I don’t see any other theory that works at all.
Mises is clearly more historically right than Locke.
For me, it comes down to who has a better claim and not might makes right. The might makes right will be a descriptor of what happens all too often, but that is case with a lot of things libertarians would disagree with.
The Celts mixed their labor with the land in England. By Locke, they have the best claim to that land.
Interesting. We both could claim to be accusing the other of making the Is-from-an-ought mistake.
Could be.
Although in my case, the Mises/George theory is an IS from the Mises perspective and an OUGHT from the George perspective, but they reach the same place.
I’m saying that common law worked out who would be the rightful owner and that would be the “is” and you’re saying that power determines the “is”. Both true and I’m too drunk to untangle it.
I can untangle it, using Mises.
Power is the IS until the point where we declare that common law will determine the IS from now on. That only works as long as we can prevent someone from using power to determine the IS again. Which means we have to use out power to defend against power, while not using our power to overrule common law.
Always seems to come down to deontology vs utilitarianism.
Always seems to come down to deontology vs utilitarianism.
Except in this case.
Locke and Mises are both being utilitarian. George is too, but as the best way to support his deontological POV. He gives up common ownership of land in return for extraction of economic rents to the common.
Lemme reread this tomorrow and see what is exactly wrong with your thinking. Kidding, but I’d I like to hear this fleshed out a bit more when I have fewer beverages in me.
Someday my 2nd SLT article will appear and I will have this laid out in detail. This discussion has added a few ideas I need to cover.
Might makes right is the law of nations. Within nations different rules apply, and those nations whose rules allow stable, reliable chains of title are superior places to live than the nations whose rules do not. I agree this is utilitarian analysis and therefore suspect, but any attempt to rectify the ancient sins that corrupt the roots of chains of title punish innocent parties and reward undeserving parties so a moral analysis fails to allow for a different answer.
*shifts to Dan Carlin voice*
Who are the Celts anyways?
rob, i look forward to your article, and so i’ll hold off any counterarguments till you post it, since they might be frivolous.
Well, that’s a rude surprise. The the red white and blue M&Ms I picked up turned out to be “hazelnut spread”. I dislike hazelnuts.
I accidentally bought a Hazelnut Brown Ale recently. It was okay, I am mostly indifferent to hazelnut, but wouldn’t have bought it if I had read properly.
I made a similar mistake with 21st Amendment’s Hog Island beer. I misread the label as Hop Island, and instead of a nice hoppy beer, it was an oyster stout. I do not like oysters, or oyster stouts.
Done make the same mistake with Pen Island.
But Baci are delicious!
More Nutella for me!
The thing I find amusing about the Racial Bolsheviks is that the most radical ones are almost all white. Sure, you’ve got a few black mouthpieces up at the top, but the whites are the ones most enthusiastically embracing it. Look at the article about Stapleton (which everyone will still use the name): that is a highly affluent overwhelmingly white neighborhood. It’s also right next door to Montbello which is overwhelmingly black and Hispanic and also one of the most dangerous in the city. I’m sure the Montbello residents don’t give two shits about the name as they’re too busy trying to make a living and keep from getting their shit stolen.
See? White privilege means they can’t even focus on the oppression. The system is keeping them busy working.
It’s the results we got from the whole participation trophy and self-esteem movements. These people are clearly losers that feel they are owed shit by those that actually are not losers, because they are participating and they know they matter. People have been telling them forever that’s all it takes…
As people have observed here repeatedly, twitter isn’t real life and most people just want to get through their days. We went to Jamestown Beach on the James River both days this past weekend. Place was packed with individuals and families of all races, just out in the sun having a good time – in fact, on Saturday it appeared that the majority of visitors were black. Aside from one person wearing a BLM shirt (a young white woman, naturally), there was no indications that anything out of the ordinary was happening in the wider world.
True, except for the fact that the Twitter mobs punch WAY above their weight because no one has the stones to stand up to them.
Most normies have the sense to stay away from that shit pile. This prevents their lives from being ruined. When enough normal (whatever that is) people get fucked over, then the guns will come out.
That’s probably what the commies and psychos want anyway. Then they can come for the weapons en masse.
Aren’t they usually all from comfortable backgrounds?
For example, Arab terrorists (remember them?) are often very well educated.
Che Guevara’s family was wealthy.
They’re all just nihilists really. Nothing more, nothing less.
Read Days of Rage. They have a really good breakdown of how the wealthy, educated, white radicals sat on top of a structurally racists organization that kept a loyal army of black foot soldiers. The black food soldiers ended up in jail, the wealthy white organizers ended up with tenure.
Quit calling Ernie “Che”.
The socialist revolutions have almost always been run by the upper-middle class with financial support form the upper class and ground troops from the proletariat.
That’s the big lie of the bourgeoisie versus the proletariat class struggle. The bourgeoisie are running the show while the proletariat can count on getting fucked by them later after ceasing to be useful.
Marx didn’t even like the working class on a personal level. He avoided them.
This is most hard Leftists, in my view. Upper crust people who advocate a moral system that they are not willing to follow themselves.
See also: Bernie Sanders building his entire career insisting on the goodness of government spending and railing against the rich “not paying their fair share” but then itemizes his deductions so he can keep more of his millions.
That’s why they need front groups like BLM and Antifa. The front group gives them the cover of a supposed cause like equality, and it’s a great way to recruit useful idiots / pawns for the revolution.
One thing I’ve noticed conspicuously missing from all the news coverage is actual panel interviews with the regional or chapter heads or national heads of BLM. Kind of curious.
At what point is the government no longer legitimate? I’ve been reluctantly paying taxes for my whole life. Now, communists are literally burning, rioting, targeting and destroying peoples lives and property and the governments have done NOTHING. In fact, in a few places the government officials are openly encouraging this behavior but only for a certain group of people.
The phrase “consent of the governed” has been running in my head like a hamster on a wheel.
I think we’re going to see a lot of people withdraw their consent, if our “leaders” don’t get their shit together. I seriously expect a second attempt to shut down the economy to be met with a resounding FUCK OFF, SLAVER.
My first day back to work at the office this week. Traffic light, office parking lot empty. Management divided the office staff into 3 teams, 1 week at the office, 2 weeks WFH. I can live with that. We have to wear masks in the building which sucks, I just pull it down below my nose so my glasses don’t fog up. HR take your temp before entering the office and ask if you been sick or have any symptoms. Guess they have to go thru the motions of doing something. The State of MO officially fully opens back up tomorrow on the 15th, all businesses allowed to open back up with restrictions. I am going to the bowling alley tomorrow, it’s a family owned and operated and is close to going down the shitter thanks to the lockdown. I hope they can hang on and survive this. Seeing how much of their income is from leagues and kiddie parties not sure it’s sustainable with the 25% Corona occupancy limitation.
It’s ok. They’re gonna make it illegal to go bankrupt. Problem solved.
Starvation is now a capital offense! Anyone starving will be shot summarily.
The wife and I discovered the #DCBlackout movement yesterday, and spent hours delving into that fecal-decorated rodent hole. There are thousands of people who are convinced that on the first night of the protests, the government cut power and internet around the whitehouse and rounded up 4000 protesters. The next morning they were pressure washing the streets, and no one knows what happened to them.
The interesting thing is that the posts all seem to be bot-based- taking the same 6 or 7 photos and amplifying them.And of course, they accuse people disagreeing of being bots as well. It is a sustained attack from someone(s) to get this conspiracy theory to stick. Kind of crazy.
Damn Russia.
It’s a China and Soros thing…
Obviously you’re not reading the media, China is too busy earning the approval of the world for their glorious leadership to care 😉
OFFS. Well done, media.
It’s like The Bee wasn’t even being satirical with the bit about the CCP laying off everyone in the propaganda dept because of western media.
I mean, with the radical right wing media in this country, you just KNOW the Trump administration could get away with something like that.
“It is a sustained attack from someone(s) to get this conspiracy theory to stick”
Absolutely. This entire movement is 100% astroturfed. The only question in my mind is whether this is strictly a Soros-style Commie NGO operation or if they’re receiving help from the CCP.
Will they investigate Soros once and for all or not?
His name comes up once too often to not at least look into it.
Por que no los bot?
Yet these people are amazed at the stupidity of people that believe there are pedophiles mixed in throughout government and it’s hangers on.
Calling Epstein a hanger on is on bad taste.
But still funny and true.
Paul Whelan, ex-US marine, jailed in Russia on spying charges
Howdy folks!
Hope you had a good weekend!
It was great except for this mild sunburn. Yours?
I got fairly sick, and overworked myself. Now I’ve lost my voice, which is good for work, don’t have to talk to anyone.
Kid both spiked a 103 degree fever (which has since gone down) and accidentally dropped her iPad face down on the tile floor causing it to crack, and she needs it for her “virtual camp” this week (digital arts camp), so I’ve got to go get it fixed. Also I worked half the weekend, and also I couldn’t pass the eye exam without my glasses when I got my license renewed so I now have the glasses restriction, which I really didn’t want. And worst of all I’m out of pot and I can’t get to the dispensary until this coming weekend.
And worst of all I’m out of pot
Could be worse
However, Persona 4 Golden came out on Steam, so that was good. Easiest $20 I’ve ever spent.
I hope your kids are feeling better. You think it’s covid?
Singular kid, but no, don’t think so. She’s barely been out of the house since this started and she had no symptoms outside of the fever other than a stomachache. As of this morning it’s down to a nice normal 98.6.
I should add that she’s barely been out of the house to go places. She’s walked around the neighborhood with me and we’ve gone swimming in our pool.
I’ve been right on the line since I got my license at 16 and finally had to get glasses the last time I renewed. I anticipated it, so I went and got a prescription and a cheap pair about 2 weeks before I had to get it renewed. Couldn’t pick out a single letter in the third box in the machine. Popped the glasses on and presto, clear text. The bespectacled DMV worker sympathetically welcomed me to the club. I only wear them when I’m doing highway driving.
Oral arguments were heard on the mandamus for Flynn case on Friday. Left media creamed themselves because they say the judges appeared open to not giving it.
The fact that the media has continued hyping the protests while simultaneously screeching about how incredibly dangerous it is for Trump to hold a rally is hilarious. They truly, honestly believe that most people are stupid enough to buy this, apparently.
That’s right. Trump must stay inside and cower while we burn our cities to the ground, inflame race riots, tie the police force’s hands, erase any history we don’t like and lock anyone we don’t like in their own house using a pandemic as an excuse. So far, it seems to be working.
“what a coward! He’s hiding in a bunker!”
I believe they are correct. People who watch are stupid.
The virus is a jealous and fickle god. It knows why you’re out, and will punish the non-believers and force them to spread it to the believers. Follow your sacramental doses of hand sanitizer, and the hoarding of toilet paper, and you will have protection.
Even the virus knows #BLACKLIVESMATTER!!!! The virus >>>> you dumb rednecks.
I believe things are calmer than they would be if 2 trillion dollars had not been stolen from future generations. When the $600 weekly payments end, we’ll see what happens. If I was in danger of losing everything I worked for, I know I’d be a lot more “active”.
The article on the Stapleton neighborhood completely accidentally left out his party affiliation. Strange.
“He’s destroying our democracy” Democrats are certainly embracing the purest form of democracy. They are so committed to their ideals.
Mobocracy.
But the parties switched, so he can now be referred to as a trans-Republican.
Today’s NPR totally-not-obvious-propaganda was comparing the deplorable anti science Arizona with the noble and righteous Oregon.
You see, Oregon simply froze a reopening while Arizona is ignoring science and continuing the opening.
Paragraph 3 mentions how Oregon is basically open in everything but the cities and anything they recently opened is not re-closing. But that’s totally fine because science-god said so.
Meanwhile, Arizona is the exact same except they aren’t pausing. The. Horror.
I’m ashamed I ever gave them money.
Good morning, Sloop!
My, what a treasure trove of stupidity you have uncovered this morning!
Recall, however that Minneapolis, being on the forefront of racial grievances, is already all over the renaming thing. I don’t think it’s really an Indian name. I think the tribe was trolling the whiteys on the council.
Anyway, I gotta believe that the pushback is gonna start soon. Even my proggies are becoming uneasy with the low-T Taliban and their shenanigans. Personally, I’m good with live ammo.
Great song! It was a really fun time, wasn’t it? We should have appreciated it more.
This song came on next. Excellent.
Have a great day everyone! Leave the fucking statues alone, OK?
Fucking statues
God dammit.
That would be perfect for the office.
The sculpt could be better.
Nice surprise. Was expecting this.
This is the kind of protest I could get behind.
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1272491438564048896?s=19
So you like herpes?
According to New York State guidelines on dating, I just need a bunch of glory holes around my house.
I’m sure gbob would wear a rubber.
For COVID, if nothing else.
At least she’s flexible.
It would been so much better if she squeezed out a baggie of weed.
White people thinking they have the right to Black bodies.
WTH was that? A deleted scene from Flashdance?
I need to re-post this from last night’s open thread because it’s too hilarious not to share again.
Some of the most hilarious shit I’ve ever seen. CHAZ has a subreddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CapHillAutonomousZone/
Unfortunately the best post got deleted by its author. They were presenting something about having a “council” to arbitrate disputes inside CHAZ. First it was going to be a black man, a black woman, a (black) trans person, and a white woman. Then they deleted the white woman. Then they added all kinds of different ethnicities. Then they added people who had been convicted of crimes. Then it was that women would worry about reporting sexual assault if people who’d been convicted of sexual assault were on the council, and then they decided that only 50% of the criminals on the council could’ve been convicted of sexual assault.
Thankfully Google cache saved it.
The same person who posted the above also responded like this to someone who had their shit stolen.
A+ comedy.
Two more things:
1. Antisemitism in that thread continues, including the old “109 countries can’t be wrong!” (referring to the 109 times in history we’ve been thrown out of various countries), which in the past I’ve only seen from right-wing antisemites. Horseshoe theory is truly a thing.
2. I was asked for the google cached version of the thread, which I missed. Here it is: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gGAbDVrgO54J:https://www.reddit.com/r/CapHillAutonomousZone/comments/h7vov1/clearing_up_the_raz_disinformation_introducing/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
It’s like a mobius loop of scumbags
“Horseshoe theory is truly a thing.”
All the bad parts of CHAZ are white supremacy.
No, as far as I saw in that thread they don’t see it as bad, and they’re totally okay with ragging on Jews.
I’m telling you what the outside of CHAZ media will say.
You can’t parody this shit. Impossible.
As with the CCP propagandists, The Bee’s writing staff has been furloughed as redundant.
“only 50% of the criminals on the council could’ve been convicted of sexual assault”
Only the best and brightest.
Only 50% could’ve done it in the past 12 MONTHS. If you raped someone a few years ago it doesn’t count.
STEVE SMITH SAY IT COUNTS AND WILL DEFEND STEVE SMITH LEGACY AND BY DEFEND LEGACY MEAN RAPE.
Probably tough to fill out those minority slots given the demographics of Seattle. Although Portland’s diversity council would be infinitely funnier for them to try to fill out.
I want the CHAZ to become a federal preserve, so someday I can give a living example to my grandson as to why communism doesnt work.
summer camp for late stage communism.
We only have to look at Cuba, NK, China, and Venezuela, and still the youngin’s pine for communism. Why would a park make a difference?
I’m back to best timeline
I still think this is satire.
No they really are that stupid.
I was on the fence, but given everything that is coming out of that place, I now believe it. Soon their council will basically be the population so as to not “exclude” anyone.
Nah, they’ll have to exclude the “privileged” people, like white male Christian heterosexuals. Plus, we know they’re constantly fine-tuning the privilege hierarchy based on the needs of the moment. Different groups can be super-oppressed one minute and accused of privilege the next.
Women join together for ‘national scream’ in outrage at gender pay gap
Speaking out about violence against women, another Geneva resident, Vani Niuti, 20, said: “I would love to walk at night wearing a skirt, shorts or leggings without being insulted, without being scared to be raped.”
You know, you can scream while being raped. Just saying.
Someday science may create a hand held device that would allow women to chase off attackers. Perhaps it could fire a piece of metal at a high velocity or something.
I know exactly how she feels. You should have seen the reaction I got when I wore my favorite outfit in Harlem.
gender pay gap
Doesn’t exist. And I am pretty sure that this has been thoroughly debunked to the extent that the only people than can still believe it exists are morons or propagandists pushing a narrative.
It’s so stupid that the wage gap argument has been dumbed down to: “A disparity exists, therefore it’s discrimination”.
I think a large part of the alleged gap could be women being free to choose an enjoyable or easy job rather than the one that pays a lot. There’s still a belief out there among a lot of women (whether they’ll admit it or not – stated vs. revealed preferences and soforth) that it’s the man’s job to earn a high income for the household. It’s pretty basic biology that males compete in various ways to earn the attention of females, and being rich is a big one. It stands to reason that there are women out there who don’t fight for promotions at their own job, but rather pressure their man to earn more or find a new man who already does. I’m not saying this is 100 percent of women, nor am I saying that this is bad any way… I’m just saying that there’s a general tendency there that provides a better explanation than “institutional sexism”.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8419593/Floridians-mark-Trumps-birthday-flotillas-caravans.html
#AllBirthdaysMatter? Really?
Yesterday’s headlines: FLORIDA GOES OVER 2,000 POSITIVE COVID TESTS IN A SINGLE DAY!!!!
Reality: Due to a LOT more testing. Positive rate was only 4.4%, which is lower than it’s been since March.
In a way, the FL/NY WuFlu reporting dichotomy reminds me of Jerry Tarkanian’s comment about the NCAA’s double standards: “The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky that they’re going to give Cleveland State two more years of probation”
Exactly.
I’m not Gov. DeSantis’ biggest fan (though he’s easily the best governor we’ve had since I moved here in 2005), but he’s done pretty well with this, despite the media’s best efforts to tear him down (while fellating Cuomo despite how dismal things have been in NY).
I remember having to choose between Rick Scott and Alex Sink for governor and thinking “How the hell did this end up being the race?”
Sad day when the outright crook is the one who looks good in a comparison.
Despite its problems too, there is a reason I only look at deaths.
Yea, I was gonna say – how many of those 2000 positive tests were remotely serious cases?
As an aside, three people drowned in a nearby town when their kayaks went over a dam. A co-worker knows the family of one of those people, and she relayed that they were counted as COVID deaths.
Gah. Exhausted. Need to sleep. Have fun Glibbies!
NYC COVID-19 Contact Tracers Not Asking About George Floyd Protest Participation, Despite Fears of New Virus Wave
The hundreds of contact tracing workers hired by the city under de Blasio’s new “test and trace” campaign have been instructed not to ask anyone who’s tested positive for COVID-19 whether they recently attended a demonstration, City Hall confirmed to THE CITY.
“No person will be asked proactively if they attended a protest,” Avery Cohen, a spokesperson for de Blasio, wrote in an emailed response to questions by THE CITY
It’s all just theater.
I like how they claim they won’t ask “proactively” as if some people in NYC would be fearful of saying they went to a protest.
Anyone have any recommendations on a VPN?
What’s your goal for having the VPN?
Mostly to avoid tracking and hide my physical location.
If you want to avoid any tracking, i wouldn’t trust any of the VPN providers out there. They all advertise stuff (:cough:Nord VPN:cough:), but can you really trust them? Best bet is to buy a higher end router and install OpenVPN on it yourself and manage it yourself.
How does that work?
You’ll need to find a Router that supports DD-WRT protocols (most routers that do will mention it in their specs). These tend to be pricier, but once its on you can then open you router in a browser (Usually 192.168.1.1, but you can check online for your specific model of router). Once you have navigated there, there can be an option to “set up VPN” on your router.
All that being said, if you go this route, it is not nearly as easy as buying from a VPN provider. Also i’d check with your specific Router you pick from to understand how they support the set up of VPNs. Netgear 7000 seems to be a popular router that supports this kind of thing.
OK, but if the router is still connected to my cable modem, how does it hide that? Wouldn’t it have to tunnel to a server somewhere?
The router just uses the VPN for all your network traffic instead of on a per-client basis. The router itself is the VPN client and everything attached to it inherits the same VPN connection.
The disadvantage of doing it that way is that if you stream or play online games your speeds will be substantially lower and your latency substantially higher. You may be better off using the VPN on a per-client basis if that’s the case.
^^^ That. Having everything encrypted means you can’t bypass the encryption if you want to. At least not easily. Tradeoffs and whatnot.
OK, explain this to me like I’m five. The router is the VPN client, it encrypts everything, so then where does it get unencrypted? Don’t I still need a VPN provider for that?
Right, you need to subscribe to a VPN service regardless, then the router serves as the client to that service. All that the router is doing is avoiding you having to install client software on each of your machines.
Let’s say you have a desktop, a laptop, and a tablet all on your home network. You subscribe to a VPN service so that your traffic gets routed through their virtual network. In order to access the provider’s virtual network you need to provide login credentials and select one or more servers to connect to. In order to do that you need to install software onto your laptop, desktop, and tablet, that will allow them to provide credentials and access your VPN service. (That can be software provided by your VPN service, or independent software that allows you to enter the credentials and server information from your VPN service; that’s somewhat unimportant). Alternatively, if you have a home router with a third-party firmware such as OpenWRT or DD-WRT installed, the router itself can handle the login credentials and server selection for your VPN service, and then your laptop, desktop, and tablet uses the VPN tunnel provided by the router. Doing it that way, you do not have to install any client software on each machine.
Sorry yes. I get this mixed up, but Pat has a good rundown of how it can work.
OK, thanks, that makes perfect sense now.
To minimize tracking you need a hardware firewall with decent rules and/or something like a pihole. The VPN just masks your physical location.
Most of the VPN’s at least claim to minimize tracking, block ads, etc. like a pihole.
I looked into a pihole, but I would have to buy quite a bit of hardware, and doesn’t do everything a VPN does.
Depending on your current setup, you may only need a Pi or other single board computer. If you’re renting a modem, all you really need besides the SBC is a decent router. That’s by far the best way to try to block ads and trackers at the network level since you control the hardware, blocklists, and things get updated more frequently. With your VPN provider, they may not update their blocklists routinely, you can’t audit any of their methods, and they may sell special dispensation to certain ad networks in order to pad their revenue and make certain sites work more smoothly for the normies.
The VPN and pihole do indeed serve separate purposes though. It’s not really an either/or thing.
If you’re going to use a third party firmware on your router, do your homework ahead of time and pick a router with supported hardware. Even then it can be a colossal pain in the ass to install and maintain.
I’ve used Private Internet Access for a few years and like it. They don’t log user data unlike some others, and you can pay any number of ways that aren’t even traceable to you.
Apparently a bunch of them accept crypto, although I don’t see why that would be necessary.
I use and like PIA too. Although, I’m having more trouble getting it to work on public wifi. The hospital had apparently blocked it.
CP, the crypto option might be especially geared towards customers in places where using a VPN is illegal.
OK, that makes sense.
This is how you wildly overcharge a cop. So many cops who should have been charged, but this guy is the sacrificial lamb.
In this particular case, it isn’t overcharging, it’s undercharging. Should be first degree premeditated murder. Shooting a fleeing felon who doesn’t pose an immediate danger has been known to be illegal since Tennessee v. Garner in 1985.
But overcharging a cop is part and parcel of the whole deal. It’s been going on for years. Prosecutors do it on purpose because they know they won’t be able to get a conviction, so they can look like “well, we tried!” while simultaneously making sure the cop faces no punishment.
Or they can just put on the most perfunctory, low effort prosecution possible. IIRC, that’s what happened in the Kelly Thomas case.
How is shooting a fleeing felon premeditated?
Any time you shoot someone it is premeditated*, you have to think to pull the trigger.
*some rare exceptions may apply
This is true.
Premeditation doesn’t require that you’ve thought long and hard and planned to shoot the person before you went out that day.
It does require separation between the decision and the act. Deciding to pull a trigger is not premeditation.
It is if you have proper trigger discipline.
consideration or planning of an act beforehand that shows intent to commit that act
Yeah. Pulling the trigger does not == Premeditation. Otherwise it would be a fluff word. Any act would be considered “premeditated” and thus the distinction would be worthless.
We have three (actually more than 3 but others are categories of the 3rd) levels of intentionality in the law.
1. Premeditation. This means planned at some remove from the act. Emotion may, and certainly does, get involved but the act is not performed in the immediate heat. The decision is made and then carried out.
2. Intentional. This means done on purpose. All premeditated acts are intentional, but not all intentional acts have the decision made separated from the act itself. Your comment about trigger discipline shows you are confusing the two levels. Trigger discipline makes any shooting intentional. Premeditation requires more. It requires that the decision to shoot was made before the separate decision to pull the trigger. It does not have to be long before, but it does have to have separation and additional evidence. the intentionality of the act is by definition not enough to show premeditation.
3. Unintentional. This includes everything from negligence up through depraved indifference.
Intentional does not equal premeditated.
There’s only two charges they could levy in Georgia: murder and felony murder. They should charge him with murder because it wasn’t premeditated, which is a qualifier for felony murder.
You cannot shoot someone who is not, to a reasonable person, a threat to commit grievous harm, death, or a forcible felony on someone else. This guy was not a threat to commit any of those things.
He was clearly sprinting off to go steal a car, and then he would have driven that stolen car into those Brave Heroes In Blue. Totality of circ. Good shoot. Hth.
No smooches?
::weeps softly::
I save my smooches for Morgan Fairchild.
I’m nowhere near a cop apologist, but I can totally see how a taser shot, to an armed cop, could result in the violent felon becoming armed. He fired a taser at a cop who had his gun in his hand after he beat up two cops to try and escape. It’s not stretch to see how this was a reasonable shooting. He paused his escape to fire at the officer. What if the barbs stuck and the cop hit the ground and his gun slid over right in front of the felon?
I don’t even think it is that ambiguous. He had a weapon he took from the police after a violent altercation. He tried to use that weapon. He did not surrender after trying to use the weapon. The fact that it is a ‘less lethal’ weapon is irrelevant to me.
Even for us serfs, the standard is “death or great bodily harm”. If someone breaks into my house and points a taser at me, I’m pulling the trigger on a firearm.
Dow set to fall nearly 600 points as coronavirus fears grow in the US and China
China eradicated Coronavirus while Drumpf has exacerbated it with his incompetence. It is known.
Haven’t followed the markets lately. What is that? About 1% by now?
A bit more than 2%
Dow hasn’t reached 60K yet? *levers up, buys everything*
The public health establishment and the media have been talking out of both sides of their mouths. They really think people won’t see it.
Great song, Sloop. I think we would have gotten along well in high school.
Sadly, Material Issue ended when the lead singer committed suicide in 1996.
The Jefferson statue was the third to be taken down this weekend in Oregon alone: Two at the University of Oregon – the Pioneer Man and the Pioneer Mother – were taken down Saturday evening.
The real tragedy is OR trying to steal VA’s significant figures.
But why go after generic pioneers? ///rhetorical
The statues have been on the chopping block for a while. They’re symbols of racist white takeover of the state.
Surprised they didn’t topple gravestones in the pioneer cemetery in the middle of campus.
Sigh. Last cup of coffee and weed in the garden before I finally tackle the shitty job of fixing the roof of the garage I decided on pot after remembering the old adage “beer before ladder, never sadder.”
The fall was inevitable, the beer just made it hurt less when I hit the ground.
This I have no problem with whatsoever. Although explaining it to my kids is gonna be difficult
Paw patrol – Check
Next on the list, the Village People
Fun observation: at the beach this weekend, I saw several kids wearing Paw Patrol gear.
All but one of those kids were black.
Columbus, Ohio is reportedly on the chopping block wish list as well. – obligatory nuke it from orbit
Who the fuck are you Romanian? Have you ever been there?
He’s not wrong. Ohio has three large cities all of which hate the others. Cleveland and Cincinnati hate each other because despite being in the same State we are descended from different cultures. Cleveland is of the Northeastern strain of America, settled by and through New York and Connecticut. Cincinnati is of the Southern strain settled by and through Virginia. Columbus is hated by both because it is the State Capital and settled by and through Americanus Bureaucratus. Peace between Cincinnati and Cleveland is possible some day. Peace with the bureaucrats is not.
What about the non-C Cities? Toledo? Acron? Dayton?
*Akron
If I remember correctly, the army still has regiments with CSA heritage. We should probably end those.
And we should probably end the states that were part of the CSA. It’s really offensive that we even let them back in.
You remember correctly.
Future histories of D-Day
“The first unit to land at Omaha Beach was the 74th Independent Battalion, an antifa collective made of up of transpeople of color commanded by Barack Obama. All of xeir troops were the bravest people, and all the white cis men who were unable to take the Trump held bunkers without their leadership.”
Look, the Confederates were still Americans, and if we were going to force them to stay, we might as well accept them back in the country.
The problem has always been isn’t wanting the removal of the remnants of the confederacy from prominent public spheres, it’s the fact that it’s clear these people are book burners and will not stop there. Once you cede the argument at all it opens it up to literally every foundational figure in US history. This reminds me a whole lot of the global warming argument once again the problem isn’t so much that general discussion of global warming happening is happening it’s admitting there is a problem opens the door to the enormous problem of fixing that. These people are cultural totalitarian marxists who aspire to control every aspect of our lives just playing their game is a win for them there is no good faith and there is no quarter. I truly feel bad for the people who don’t see this and won’t see it till it’s too late, but there’s nothing to be done but fight these assholes as hard as they give it.
“general discussion of global warming happening is happening it’s admitting there is a problem opens the door to the enormous problem of fixing that”
Especially since they changed it to “climate change”. Apparently, to the Science Lovers, its supposed to be the same climate, over and over again, forever. Science.
I’m reading a book on ancient Mesopotamia right now, and it posited that climate change was a factor in the abandonment of some early settlements. How is this possible?? Everybody knows that the Koch Brothers invented carbon to destroy the planet (which would of course affect women and minorities the hardest).
This has never been about the confederacy-
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1272526947067846660
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thomas-jefferson-statue-toppled-in-portland-oregon/
we even let them back in
Kick them out. No, wait, then you’d just be giving them what they wanted in the first place!
Anyone have any advice on e-bikes? Are the worth it? Any tips when selecting one? etc. etc.?
ENACT MY LABOR!!!!!
Get two, connect them side by side, attach a seat to the tie bars, and cover the whole thing with a shell to keep the rain off.
What are you looking for in an e-bike? Are you looking for a conversion kit for an existing bike, or a stand alone? Are you looking for speed or range?
Actually is is my old decrepit aunt who asked me if I knew anything about them.
She’s looking for a stand alone one and is probably looking more for range than anything. She’s an ex-athlete who has been having some physical issues and is trying to find a new hobby that she can do.
Coronavirus social-contact curbs ‘put adolescents at risk’
“You’re great grandparents fought World War II. All you have to do is sit on your couch.”
Is the bolded part only true because we treat kids like infants for 18 years?
I am trying desperately to launch my almost-17-yo XX successfully, but she’s scared and I don’t know how to make her understand that I’m trying to give her what I didn’t have, not trying to push her out of the nest just to get rid of her.
XY is trying to find a job, which I fully support.
Failure to Launch doesn’t count til they hit 25 these days. XY has plenty of time! (Really though you shouldn’t worry too much. I was not “launched” at that point and I turned out ok)
XY has a very strong entrepreneurial streak I want to foster, but his manner of “taking care of” my equipment is, shall we say, negligent at best.
In short, he broke my mower and I took his lawnmowing business away from him. In addition, he was taking too much “authority,” shall we say, upon himself and presenting himself as something far and away more than a kid with a lawnmower and a fabulous work ethic. He’s 14 and trying to set up an LLC and buying per diem E&O insurance.
I was trying to help him, but his carelessness and negligence was financially unsustainable.
Is the bolded part only true because we treat kids like infants for 18 years?
Yes. Well, maybe not only. The sheer number of times I’ve had to tell in-laws and friends (and even my wife on occasion, but she’s mostly on the same page as me) to let the 3 year old figure things out on her own and affirmatively ask for help if needed is astounding. The apparently natural inclination is to help the kid avoid struggle.
I can’t think of anything more detrimental to a child’s confidence level (not self-esteem, which is garbage) than being helped along through their entire childhood like an incompetent.
I think that’s the thesis of this book called “Teen 2.0” – which is a totally dumbass title, but the author was on the Tom Woods Show and made some very interesting points.
He was basically saying:
Most of the problems associated with teenagers are a result of continuing to treat them like children when they’re actually trying to transition into adulthood. Most cultures have historically considered a person to be a man or woman around age 13, and this marks the time when they start being around more adults (who they should see as role models) instead of being mostly around other teenagers, where they develop a vacuous “teen culture” and get into trouble.
Whether or not it’s 100 percent correct, it sounds very thought-stimulating.
Given the ex-mayor’s associations with the Ku Klux Klan, the Stapleton name has been the subject of intense deliberation within the neighborhood for years. The temperatures of those discussions increased again after the death of George Floyd on May 25 while in the custody of Minneapolis police.
Just rename everything “Barack Obama” – whatever. That will fix everyone’s problems.
I’m not yearning to see any human suffering or societal dysfunction, but I will enjoy the symbolism of the situation when every “Barack H. Obama Memorial Blvd” is a ghetto war zone where used needles crunch under your every step.
Grampa isn’t used to 2020.
https://twitter.com/WhyIsTheKaito/status/1272334896544059395
Old man shoots at cloud?
There is sometime sublimely funny about an elderly WWII vet (or shortly after WWII, his T/5 rank was eliminated in 1948) yelling at fat white leftists who are holding a sign claiming to speak for veterans.
GO GRAMPS!
I don’t know what’s going on here, but it’s hilarious.
https://twitter.com/MyersOcelot/status/1272226428113702912
Reminds me of 1941 (Spielberg is probably hoping nobody notices that movie right now)
That is awesome.
Fucking white women am I right?
I would like to buy that man a beer.
And more ammo?
Tempting, ain’t it?
Atlanta police seek masked woman suspected of burning down Wendy’s
Chick-fil-a wouldn’t tolerate that shit.
I saw a stat. I do not know if it’s true, which is why I didn’t share it on FB (that and a few other reasons): 41% of black-owned businesses have disappeared.
Saw that too and didn’t give it much weight because of the word “disappeared”. Out of business? Burned down? Simply shuttered?
So you’re saying Trump has destroyed Black Owned Businesses?
It was reported in the WSJ, but since all their stuff is paywalled I don’t know where they got it from.
I’d be skeptical of any stat like that, if for no other reason than they don’t collect race data with business license applications. it’s bound to be an estimate at best.
As anecdotal evidence of what’s really happening with the cities and rich leftists, I offer the following.
The least populous (and relatively remote) county in Virginia is experiencing a massive boom in real estate inquiries.
Mass migration, Part Eleventy: The Great Sorting Continues.
Mass migration, Part Eleventy: The Great Sorting Continues.
Could also be “Great Invasion”. “Great Metastisizing” is kinda clunky.
Bland?
Highland
Aha…..gorgeous country up there. Not sure how anyone moving there is planning on making a living, though, because there’s nothing up there but mountains. I’ve been up there for the Maple Festival – there are hardly even any buildings of any kind.
You can’t earn a living up there. You either have money already, are Mennonite, or have been there forever and scrimp on by.
Retirees too, I guess.
I wonder how many people have been working from home for the last 3 months and told their boss
“Hey, I can do this from the mountains.”
After the totalitarian antics the VA governor and some in the legislature pulled I would not move there if someone tried to force me at gunpoint. High prices? Fuck that, you couldn’t pay me.
We were considering either side of the state line in the Blue Ridge, but we are very much biased to the NC side now.
Sounds like you considering places near me. Just a warning that NC is heading that way too. My estimate is they are 10-15 years behind VA.
Frankly, any state with more than 2 million people is on that path. Progressive Era 2: Woke Boogaloo is a decade out, at most.
“Frankly, any state with more than 2 million people is on that path.”
and Vermont.
My estimate is they are
10-15 yearsone election behind VA.Every state is. The only question is, what are the odds that the Dems can capture your state government?
Approximately 0%
I live in AZ, and given the Dems demonstrated ability to win state-wide elections here, I put our odds at somewhere around 25%.
0% is for this years election. I’m sure it will flip at some point in the Future. we have 1 congressional seat that is constantly flipping sides, though i imagine it will become firmly blue soon.
What? You guys aren’t interested in being preached to by Governor Black-face?
Biden running mate search zeroes in on group that includes at least four black women
He wants Tyler Perry?
I think Susan Rice is going to get the nod. Native American isn’t the right kind of POC, so warren is out. Harris should have been dropped for any serious consederation about 7 months ago when she attacked Biden as a Racist. That is going to be campaign gold for Trump.
I think Susan Rice is going to get the nod.
“The
riotspeaceful protests are a response to a video..”LOL
Susan Rice has next to no name recognition and Trump will go to town with clips of her enthusiastically defending the traitor Bowe Bergdahl and yammering on about the YouTube video and Benghazi.
Who and What?
No one gives a crap about that stuff, and having no name recognition is probably a benefit when it comes to those people. Warren is just an awful spiteful woman. I don’t see here doing much except in the “Old white Female Librarian” demographic. And Kamala calling Biden a Racist, and saying she believes Tara Reade is way worse in public opinion than some thing that happened in some country 80% of the US couldn’t locate on a map.
Won’t change votes, no, but it will help Trump turn out more voters IMO.
On the flip side, what does she actually bring to the table? A few years as a somewhat minor presidental advisor?
more voters
There’s no precedent or vector for more of the country to vote Republican than what Trump has elicited already.
However, there is a possibility that more Democrats could vote this time than in 2016.
Trump needs you to be right and for it to show up in exactly certain states; I wouldn’t put money on that.
I think there are a fair number of people who have zero intention of voting for Democrats who don’t actually like Trump all that much, people who aren’t voting for Trump so much as voting against the Democrats.
I just struggle to see how Susan Rice is a net positive.
Not so sure. If elections are about motivation/enthusiasm, I’m not sure why Trump can’t turn out more Repubs, or why more Dems would be motivated to vote, given the events of the last 3 months.
Especially the rioting, and the manifest weakness of Biden or any potential Dem candidate.
I think the biggest threat to Trump is the urban Dem machines manufacturing votes in swing states.
I’m not endorsing Rice. I’m not endorsing Biden. Fuck them. Fuck Trump.
But you’re both saying that more people will suddenly turn out to vote for Trump this time than have ever voted for any Republican president ever, even when the vectors you imply (hatred; eg 2016) were already in play.
It might happen
“But you’re both saying that more people will suddenly turn out to vote for Trump”
1.3 million people voted in the 2016 Georgia GOP primary, in a contested primary. 500,000 of them voted for Donald Trump.
700,000 people came out last week to vote for Donald Trump, the incumbent POTUS. 700,000 people took the time to vote for Trump who has no serious challengers.
Has that ever happened before? That an incumbent President running basically unopposed in a primary got more votes than he did four years earlier?
even when the vectors you imply (hatred; eg 2016) were already in play.
There are new vectors in play this year – the ‘Vid (which may be a net zero, who knows?) and the riots (which I think breaks the Repubs’ way).
I also tend to think that there was more enthusiasm for Hillary than for Biden. How exactly that nets out against elevated levels of hate for Trump, I couldn’t say.
having no name recognition is probably a benefit
True. The only other qualifications are black and a vagina.
Did Rice do any unmasking during the Obama set-up for the attempted coup?
Yes – a lot.
Indeed she did.
That is all Fake news. Obamagate is just a Trump Conspiracy Theory.
But Biden being called a Racist is a huge problem. And so he has to go with a Black Woman. Kamala is a Cop who called him a racist. So she is worthless.
I’m actually torn. I think the campaign ads would be awesome if Biden named Kamala. But not even then do i want her that close to becoming president.
They’ll have fun with her habits as a serial liar. Every time she was in the spotlight, she looked like she was in way over her head. Won’t be a good look during the campaign.
I don’t know how he managed to narrow the field. There must have been binders full of candidates.
He took him deep.
HEY NOW!
Backlash mounting against ‘Paw Patrol’ amid push for police reform
Because a cute, cartoon police dog that (I assume) respects people is the problem.
I am never watching that closely, but I have not seen Chase fire a weapon.
Well, duh, you’re watching what was caught on camera. After he gets the suspect to an undisclosed location… well, no more ‘good boy’.
Now I am not even sure he has ever made an arrest.
Is he a meter maid?
No. He’s an actual public servant that de-escalates situations and helps people (animals, but whatever) solve problems.
So they probably should cancel him since he’s in no way representative of a policeman.
Can’t arrest the dead.
I only even know of the show because my nephew likes it. I think I got him some toys from it once. I guess he is a little racist now.
All white people are racists. They invented stereotypes, which they use to oppress everyone.
“Backlash” of course means “our friends and social milieu is worked up about some stupid shit.”
This is the insidious nature of the media monopoly the nutty prog left holds. Imagine if the media was controlled by, lets say, members of the Gun Owners of America. There would be a front page story, every single day, in the Post and the Times about the thousands of people who are serving federal prison sentences because of a paperwork mistake, or because the dimensions of a barrel or a stock were slightly too short.
It’s becoming abundantly clear and clear for a while that we are literally dealing with mentally unhinged psychotics who belong in an insane asylum. Maybe we had it all wrong, maybe these people should have been forcibly institutionalized.
Backlash mounting
What, half a dozen tweets?
Answer honestly.
http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv
Moderate narcissistic antisocial schizoid
Or as I would put it, I’m probably right and you’re a tiresome asshole.
Twins.
I’m a moderate Narcisistic, Antisocial Avoidant.
High narcisistic. So you answered wrong.
Very high narcissistic, so it seems, you answered wrong.
I spiked on narcissistic too. Damn. Or is that a good thing?
leon and I are supposed to be the same person. That is how I know he answered wrong.
High: paranoid, borderline, avoidant
Moderate: narcissistic, antisocial
Paranoid – Very High
Avoidant – Very High
Schizoid – High
Obsessive-Compulsive – High
Betcha nobody here can beat that.
Paranoid: Very High
Schizoid: High
Schizotypal: High
Narcissistic: High
Avoidant: High
Obsessive-Compulsive: Very High
Narcissistic and avoidant seems like a weird combination…
Heh. Narcissistic schizotypal, with tendencies of OCD and histrionics. Also, what Scruffy said
I am moderately anti-social.
Huh. Shocker.
Low paranoid and dependent, high schizotypal, moderate everything else. More let’s call everyone mentally ill.
paranoid, borderline, histrionic, avoidant
Nailed it.
What a bunch of crazies.
Am i crazy to think that they made the “more info” link always go to Schizotypal on purpose?
Nope..noticed it too that they only link to three of the disorders. Me thinks we have been hoodwinked.
Moderately narcissistic/High schizoid.
I cannot be paranoid because I really don’t give a shit about what other people think about me.
I got high for schizoid, schizotypal, avoidant, and narcissistic. Conclusion – the test is pretty worthless.
It said “you are too lazy to complete this test”
Oh, good, then I should just skip it entirely.
/laborenacted? I still don’t understand how that works. Too lazy to look it up…
Paranoid: Low
Schizoid: High
Schizotypal: Moderate
Antisocial: Moderate
Borderline: Low
Histrionic: Moderate
Narcissistic: High
Avoidant: Moderate
Dependent: Low
Obsessive-Compulsive: High
Narcissistic: High
Obsessive-Compulsive: High
I could have told you that from your furniture.
I got one high for paranoid, but they’re just out to get me.
Do you think I’m a fool? I’m not going to click that link and give people information that will be used against me.
Like my mom clicking on facebook quizes that ask questions like “what was your childhood’s dog name” or the “We can guess your birth date and where you were born in FIVE questions!” Oh darn, we didn’t guess it right, please post how wrong we were with where you were born and share!
I hate everyone and want to bang all the purdy ladies..
Dang, that test is accurate
So I have a question for the folks here about work. I just got a job recently (yay me!) and am in training. I received an email this morning asking for my favorite drink, snack, and candy so they can “thank me appropriately” (I assume they mean in the future). My question is, how do I opt out of bs like this without pissing everyone off? The troll in me really wants to say, “I’m here to work, not to be your friend.”, but I know thats the wrong way to approach it. It just really creeps me out when employers do this, because a previous one of mine effectively used this kind of thing to downsize. Picked out the folks who were not participating in outside of work activities, and canned them all under the guise of “corporate downsizing”. Does anyone else feel this way? Is this thing on?
I think theres a difference between “hey what snacks can we get you” and “on Thursdays we do a post work hike to the top of mountain and work arcane magiks. It’s optional, but we hope you will attend.”
But yeah, I agree in principle. You want to make me feel good about working there, give me a bonus.
Agreed, a bonus would be perfect ?
Diet Coke, Diet Coke, Diet Coke. Easy.
Gross.
Right? The Snack ought to at least have caloric content.
Diet Coke, Coke, Cherry Coke?
“Ribeye.”
Correct answer
I am probably some sort of heathen, but ribeye is probably my least favorite of the standard cuts of steak.
That doesn’t mean I don’t like ribeye, it just isn’t my favorite.
[insert favorite expensive food item here]
[Prime Rib]
[that expensive Spanish cheese I sampled a while ago at $30/lb]
Yes. Yes, you are.
I’m with you Rob. Strips are my number one for steaks. I can almost get my grill to steakhouse broiler temps with lump charcoal.
Ribeye is for cheesesteaks, which is also the food of the gods.
I change my mind. Mojeaux has the correct answer.
The thing I miss the most about WFH is the free snacks in the office. Its a perk, don’t think too hard about it.
You’re probably not wrong, I’m probably just in my own head too much. I can just see it leading to bigger things. “Hey, I didn’t see you at the company picnic!” can quickly turn into someone accusing you of having an attitude problem. And maybe I do have one, but not when it comes to doing my job. I guess I just think that should be enough.
I play along. It’s just a silly game to me and if they need to do it, doesn’t hurt me.
You’re right of course.
Indeed. Something innocuous that you can tolerate is the best option.
I hate that kind of patronizing shit, and I blame millennials for turning the workplace into a substitute for one’s family and social safety net. God help me when my business finally flames out and I have to go hit the wage slave circuit.
I concur wholeheartedly. I already have a family, I don’t need another to keep track of.
Some workplaces bring in free snacks and maybe they just want to know there’s something you’ll like so you don’t feel left out. We have a daily fruit basket at our manufacturing plants, and they change stuff up so we’re not always getting the same basic things.
I think you’re correct about them not wanting to make me feel left out. Thing is, if I really cared about that sort of thing, I wouldn’t lean the way I do politically. Of course they don’t know that (hopefully I can keep my mouth shut and they’ll never know). I’m overthinking this, I know.
Just play ball and don’t worry about it. Yes, the “…so we can thank you…” is dumb. Decide you don’t care. My answer would be Milano cookies. You can tell ’em that.
You’re right. I need to learn not to overthink shit like this.
Rom tricolor chocolate
“What is your favorite snack?”
A – “Dollar bills”
This is the kind of troll response I really want to send, but I know it wouldn’t reflect well on me in today’s corporate culture.
“Today’s corporate culture”
I am so glad both Mrs. Suthenboy and I are retired. I wouldn’t last five minutes in ‘today’s corporate culture’.
I generally just delete that kind of email without replying.
I had the same thought, but this is a direct email from my boss. Much as I would like to opt out, now is probably not the time.
Thanks for the responses everyone. I knew I was overthinking it, you all just confirmed my suspicions.
I’m not opposed to rotating decent coffee in and out, some fresh fruit or the occasional cereal/chocolate/protein bar. We’ve had the same coffee where I work for 20 years. It’s not terrible, the only reason I know that is when I come back after being off for a month, it’s almost tolerable. But, we don’t drink the coffee because it tastes good.
Dude, its an easy way for them to make sure they have food that doesn’t violate anyone’s weird health/religious taboos. They can’t say “so do you keep kosher or what?” You can just say you like chocolate without having to explain that sometime gelatin is made from pig products and it would violate your religious customs to each gummy worms without inspecting the label.
Opt-in instead of ask why you opt-out is how you navigate wrongful termination risk.
favorite drink, snack, and candy
Tequila, bacon, and candied bacon.
*hugs
Today in Romanian food:
I talked in one of my posts about Papanași, a type of doughnut with sour cream and sweet preserves. Traditionally it is one round doughnut with a hole and a small ball doughnut put on top. a problem with this is it is usually pretty big and very high calorie. What my mom does is she skips the big doughnut and makes just the small ones, and you can make the portion as big as you want.
The recipe:
200 g flour
200 g cottage cheese
100 g sugar
1 teaspoon baking soda mixed with a tablespoon or two lemon juice
a bit of salt (this may be a smidgen in imperial measurements)
mix together everything till evenly mixed, form pingpong sized spheres deep fry in oil till golden brown, cover in sour cream and preserves.
In my case this Sunday, it was half bitter cherry preserves, half blueberry preserves.
pic:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yBEJn2LccATJVgC6UKiPTmuUvMpSj1CE/view?usp=drivesdk
Wait I messed that up it is 500 g cottage cheese.
Step 1: Replace the cottage cheese with ricotta cheese.
Step 2: Cast genocide spell on sour cream.
Well we are not nobility in Romania to afford ricotta
Then again I am not sure cottage cheese is exactly like the cheese we use, but it is equivalent. it is a fresh soft not to salty cow’s cheese.
Cream cheese?
That sounds pretty damned good. Sour cherry for me please
*cottage cheese with grains cooks up pretty well. Replace the flour with finely ground oats and you can fry up some very good low-carb pancakes
oats are not low carb
First Supreme Court ruling of the day: Title VII covers both sexual orientation and gender identity discrimination.
6-3 decision, with Alito, Thomas and Kavanaugh dissenting.
Gorsuch wrote the opinion for the majority. Since he’s by far the best (and most libertarian) justice, I’m going to be very interested to read his reasoning (the SCOTUS site crashed)
https://www.scotusblog.com/
I didn’t see they’d posted it themselves. Thanks.
Just skimming through it looks a lot like the Lawrence v. Texas and the gay marriage decisions. Rather simple look at the statute. The language of the statute more or less says that an employer can’t take adverse action against an individual because of their sex – “but for” their sex, would they be treated the same way?
The case basically comes down to the decision that it’s “impossible” to fire someone on the basis of homosexuality or transgenderism without them being fired because of their sex.
But couldn’t an employer fire someone for body dysmorphia?
What other known delusions are covered?
I think the ADA prohibits that.
It is almost a call to congress to update their legislation, which is scary enough, but this opens the door for say “Chippendale’s” to not be able to fire a male-to-female (or vice versa) even though the job description no longer fits their newfound gender identity.
How will this square up with Hollywood, advertising agencies, etc? Where specific genders are cast for specific reasons?
People cast in TV shows/movies/commercials are not employees?
It flips the need for an amendment, from “must explicitly add sexual preference and gender identity” to “must explicitly exclude sexual preference and gender identity”.
I think it opens the door for more cases and might push Congress to update legislation, but we can pretty much guess what that will lead to.
Imagine an employer who has a policy of hiring male employees to care for male children and female employees to care for female children. The employer receives notice from John Doe that he is undergoing gender reassignment and will henceforth come to work representing himself as a female and using the name Jane Doe. Will that employee be fired? If the policy works as the employer intends, the answer depends entirely on whether the model employee is a man or a woman. Etc etc etc.
Imagine an employer who has a policy of hiring female employees to dance topless. The employer receives notice from Jane Doe that she is undergoing gender reassignment and will henceforth come to work representing herself as a male and using the name John Doe. Will that employee be fired? If the policy works as the employer intends, the answer depends entirely on whether the model employee is a man or a woman. Etc etc etc.
Hmm. Interesting. I think I see the logic: “You wouldn’t fire a chick for banging dudes, but you would fire a dude for banging dudes.
Ergo, you are firing him because of his sex.” In line with an old precedent I vaguely recall where a tranny was fired for wearing women’s clothes.
OTOH, this is basically saying you can’t separate someone’s sexual preference or gender identity from his or her biological sex. Not sure how consistent that is with the idea that your sexual preference or gender identity isn’t determined by your sex.
My beef is, this is a real stretch given the language of the statute, which refers only to sex, and its cleat that, at the time, it did not cover sexual preference or gender identity, and Congress has since refused to add them.
One test of this would be:
Could an employer declare that they will only hire people who bang dudes, regardless of their sex? I don’t see how the court could now say that refusing to hire people who bang chicks, regardless of their sex, is prohibited discrimination.
And if you can do that, why can’t you say you will only hire people who bang the opposite sex, regardless of their sex?
because ‘the opposite sex’ is an evaluable expression:
oppositesex = yoursex * -1 (or !yoursex, depends on the datatyping. Booleans would be right out for the non-binary crowd, who would insist on floating point representation. memory wasting fuckers.)
“To be sure”
Today,
we must decide whether an employer can fire someone
simply for being homosexual or transgender. The answer
is clear. An employer who fires an individual for being homosexual or transgender fires that person for traits or actions it would not have questioned in members of a different
sex. Sex plays a necessary and undisguisable role in the
decision, exactly what Title VII forbids
And Alito, in his dissent:
There is only one word for what the Court has done today:
legislation. The document that the Court releases is in the
form of a judicial opinion interpreting a statute, but that is
deceptive.
Without reading in detail, it looks like Kavenaugh’s reasoning in his dissent is the same as Alito’s.
Which is interesting, because well uh, isn’t that what they do. Its right there in all their rulings “the opinion of the court is…”?
SCOTUS interprets statues (not saying the ruling was correct or incorrect), but that seems like a weak dissent.
If I had copied more, his point is that the legislature has attempted to add sexual orientation and transgender into the act on multiple occasions. And it is their responsibility to alter the law, not the courts.
I listened to some lawyers from the Short Circiut podcast debate weather or not legislative intent should even be considered by courts. Some good arguments on both sides, but i still couldn’t get past the part where the guy arguing against it basically said “Legislatures are dumb, and so smart lawyers shouldn’t be hamstrung by what their intent was when interpreting them”
Gotcha, and I kind of got that from the opinion also.
I’m kind of surprised Gorsuch went that way.
You would’t be if you listened to the oral arguments. He said point blank “This is a close case” and pressed both sides pretty hard. He has a history of coming down on the side of the “little people” in close cases.
What in hell is gender identity discrimination? That sounds like gibberish to me.
Yeah, that’s the part that is most worrying. We seem to be getting close to that edge Jordan Peterson was warning us about.
When a furry starts showing up to work wearing a horse costume because it’s xer identity….
Seriously, isn’t that where it will end up?
Reading over it I see that I am correct. It is a bunch of gibberish. All of it.
He has this line in his opinion and is his the basis of his reasoning it seems. His reasoning, it appears, is that he is applying the law as written and did not add or detract from it.
“After all, only the words on the page constitute the law adopted by Congress and approved by the President. If judges could add to, remodel, update, or detract from old statutory terms inspired only by extratextual sources and our own imaginations, we would risk amending statutes outside the legislative process reserved for the people’s representatives.”
SLD: Employers should have the right to discriminate (and people would have the right to boycott them in response). Same as with baking cakes for gay marriages.
Under the statute, this is the right decision, and SCOTUS shouldn’t be re-writing law.
Not sure this is the right decision under the statute. Sex does not cover sexual orientation. Or gender.
Eh. I agree with Gorsuch’s reasoning. If you fire a man for having sex with a man, but you wouldn’t fire a woman for having sex with a man, it’s discrimination on the basis of sex.
I’m not worked up over it, because the ship of protected class has sailed. Freedom of association is dead, the Court squeezing another round into the corpse doesn’t make a difference at this point.
Since this variety of discrimination literally doesn’t occur anywhere except in religious institutions and hasn’t in about half a century, it’s meaningful. That’s the intended policy outcome. Catholic Charities, Salvation Army Stores, religious schools, all either shut down or skinsuited by activists.
Silly Pat, the Nine Wise People of the Supreme Court don’t belong to any house of worship that would actually take the Biblical text on homosexuality literally, so that’s not actually important at all.
I can’t quite put a finger on it, but there is something that seems profoundly anti-homosexual about that characterization of homosexuality.
No, you don’t fire him for having sex with a man, you fire him for having sex with the same sex.
As long as you fire both gay men and gay women, you aren’t discriminating on the basis of sex.
On the other hand, I find firing someone for being gay to be weird to begin with.
^this
The “logic” here is wrong. And that’s without forming an opinion on this case one way or the other.
This isn’t even remotely limited to that extremely narrow circumstance though. And even if it were, that’s a huge reach. How tangentially can something be related to a person’s sex before it’s outside the range of sex discrimination?
As with all such analysis it depends on the level of abstraction you adopt.
Firing a male person for having sex with a man and a female person for having sex with a woman, but not a man having sex with a woman or a woman having sex with a man = treats men differently than women.
Firing a person of either sex for having sex with with the same sex = does not treat men differently than women.
The sentences before the = are saying exactly the same thing. Whether that thing is covered by Title VII depends on the level of abstraction at which you do the analysis. And, while I tend to agree with Kavanaugh here because the fact that you can decide either way based on where you decide to set your abstraction level tells me that it is inappropriate for the Court to change the historic understanding of the law (it has not, until extremely recently been understood to cover homosexuality much less Gender nonsense), that is a rule of caution for the Court not a solid rule of construction.
The correct decision is “Title VII violates the First Amendment recognized Right to Free Association.”
THIS
Well yes, that’s the goal, but we’re not there right now it seems.
Sex isn’t gender, except when it is.
I still would have thought it’s a legislation issue.
Actual customer name of the day:
Richard Tugwell
Ha ha ha!
A buddy spent a half hour today trying to get a sale with his client in Singapore – Mr. Poon Tang.
Well? Did he get the sale or not?
No but they set up a meet & greet to go get some?
A friend of mine from high school was named Dick Hoar, Jr.
JUNIOR
I presume his father, being a Rich Hoar, saw nothing wrong with it.
The Hoars lived in the house behind us. A married couple with three little Hoars.
The funniest real-life names that I’m personally aware of:
– Fonda Peters
– Wang Dong
– Mike Hawk
I’ve been trying to stay off the PC. Has this made the rounds yet?
GitHub to replace “master” with alternative term to avoid slavery references
Master/Slave has been debated for a long long time. It was removed with regard to hard drives years ago.
I remember it from the days of the IDE interface. Also from C-64 disk drives.
There’s not even a “slave” context for things like a master branch or master repo though, it’s just utter fucking retardation. They’re also doing away with “whitelist” and “blacklist”, which do not have, and have never had, anything to do with race.
White and Black. what do you mean it doesn’t have to do with race. Those words are race.
It isn’t really a big deal in the grand scheme of things….
But words are just words and they have a meaning. Master is not unique to American slavery, nor even to the concept of slavery.
Whatever. The problem with walking this path is that they are never done. Every generation has to discard the language from the previous generation. I am hearing rumblings that “people of color” is being considered problematic in some circles.
They just can’t help themselves. It is stupid, but it is a part of their genetic makeup, apparently. They have been doing it for as long as I have been alive, across a wide swath of terms and topics, so I’ll assume they are always going to do it.
All HDDs are slaves to the almighty Processor. I propose changing the nomenclature to House/Field drives to reflect their status.
The machines need to be put in their place, otherwise you get Skynet.
Don’t anybody tell them about token rings.
Tolkien’s Rings? Well, the description of the men of the East was pretty racist.
Agile got rid of “grooming” from its lexicon years ago after various child diddlers were busted. Right thinkers are supposed to use “refinement” now.
No word on whether Agile has decided that “mobbing” should be replaced with “peaceably collaborating (mostly)”.
The correct term is wildin
boolin’
I’ll admit being late to the party, but I always thought “Grooming” was weird. I thought Triage made way more sense.
Think of baboons sitting around picking lice off of each other. That is what I think of as grooming and it applies perfectly to Agile.
Heh, Jenkins went away from the master-slave concept a few years ago too. It is now master-agents, cause you know these agents doing what the master wants is not as bad…
Remember that time they wanted the senate to vote secretly on impeachment. Something about agents needing to be protected from their bosses.
Finally this tool of white cishetero patriarchy can be canceled.
Second case: The US government has the right to authorize a special use permit for a pipeline over federal land. Simple decision, 7-2, Sotomayor and Kagan on the dissent.
via ScotusBlog:
And that’s it for today. More on Thursday.
Who brought that case?
Something called the Cowpasture River Preservation Association.
It’s made up of a lot of people up past Staunton that simultaneously moan about how there are no economic opportunities and revolt anytime somebody wants to create a tax base by investing in capital development.
By “Economic Opportunities” do they just mean “Free Money Handouts?”
That would be the longtime locals.
The newcomers just don’t want anybody ruining their viewshed or virtue-signaling cred.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
I know quite a few environazis up that way who have been screaming bloody murder over that pipeline. Eat shit assholes.
Also, anytime the Southern Environmental Law Center loses a case, a polar bear drowns.
Polar bears float. Though I suppose it could get stuck under the ice.
What the hell is there for Sotamayor and Kagan to dissent about? This shouldn’t be partisan…. the law on the matter should be relatively clear.
There is something broken in our legal system. I was watching a video blog about the Flynn case and two lawyers were discussing the change over the course of their career. One said that he kept getting bad grades in one of his classes – he’d be assigned “tell me what the law is on this topic” and he’d research and report what the law says. He finally figured out that the professor didn’t want that. The professor had a conclusion in mind (the left-leaning one) and wanted him to go and find case law to back that conclusion.
He said this is how lawyers are trained these days. So this is how judges operate…. which is something I have been arguing based on my own conclusions from watching their opinions the last few decades. Nice to know that the view from the inside is the same as the view from outside.
95% of all Supreme Court cases should be unanimous. If they aren’t, then the laws are broken and inconsistent. There is no way that two people who are very expert in the law should be able to reach opposite conclusions on reading the law – at least 99% of the cases. If this is not true, then the law is malformed and should be fixed.
Critical Legal Theory
Counter-argument: Those 95% never reach the Supremes because they are easily dealt with at the lower levels. The SCOTUS cases are all in the 5%.
About 60% of SCOTUS decisions are unanimous. So even within that 5%, most are dealt with that way. That gets us down to about 2% with any split. Those are the ones we hear about.
Read Wittgenstein (or a whole host of legal theorists who are largely restating Wittgenstein). All rules have ambiguity built in, when two people with different first principles interpret them they will find a path to their preferred conclusion and generally will not see themselves as twisting the rule.
Thanks a lot,
CoronaGauleiter und Gauleiterin und the Clown Prince for fucking over the country’s economy with their stupid cower-in-place and stupid lockdown orders.Fixed it for you.
Regular Cars on the 2015 Ford Ecoboost Mustang Premium
Regular Cars on the 2007 Lincoln Town Car Executive L.
They sure are running the playbook, aren’t they?
They got what they wanted with the situation in Minnesota… except everyone was on the same side. Hard to paint the other side as the enemy if everyone is on the same side…
So they upped the ante- trying to provoke fights with the police, burning stuff…. still, nobody on the other side. Dang.
So then they started vandalizing statues. Surely that will bring out some rednecks that we can call Trump supporters…. still nothing.
So then they latch on to a shooting of a DUI suspect who resists arrest. Now they have something! Nobody can watch that video and think “cold blooded cop murders totally innocent guy for being black”. And there we have a winner! They are pushing this one hard. lots of pictures of this guy with his kids, stuffed animals, smiles… NBC had a segment this morning on the topic. The entire segment had a banner across the screen “Autopsy rules police shooting a Homicide”
They are working overtime to get their base all agitated so that whitey will say “this was justified”. Boom, now we have two sides, an enemy to fight! White people are racist! Trump murders black people who just fall asleep in a parking lot!
You apparently haven’t come to grips with the history of white supremacy – there are disparities and atonement is required.
Also, the Supreme Court denied cert on all of the second amendment cases, all of the QI cases, and on the California sanctuary state case, which probably means we already know how the DACA case is going to be decided (guessing 5-4 with Roberts on the majority with the liberals)
THAT DAMN CONSERVATIVE COURT!
DACA is proof positive that we have rule of men and not rule of law. That anyone could seriously argue that one president can create permanently binding law by stroke of a pen that no other president can undo is ludicrous. Particularly when that “law” is in direct conflict with actual written law that was passed by the legislature and signed into law by the president. That any judge would allow DACA to be implemented is problematic to begin with, but that they have been able to block repealing it is shocking.
Legislatures are dumb, we shouldn’t let a bunch of randos get in the way of what the law ought to be.
Cowards.
Yeah, this round of late/important decisions has cemented my call on just spending the damn money on the Benelli M-4. Doesn’t hurt that Benelli will have full-capacity mags for it shortly.
If there was any doubt about whether the Court could stand as some kind of bulwark against the Deep State and the current cultural insanity, this should remove it.
Congratulations, Lefties! You’ve successfully cast Donald Trump as the defender of Mahatma Ghandi.
I just can’t wait for you to profess your undying hatred of fuzzy warm puppies, motherhood, apple pie, and Little Baby Jesus.
Gandhi was a Nazi-worshipper. I know it was because of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, but still.
And you don’t even want to know what I have to say about Mother Theresa.
And if you’re trying to persuade people to get on board with your program, you almost certainly shouldn’t be putting your problems with her front and center.
I am with you on Theresa but there isn’t much to be gained by professing it.
Cancel Finland. Not only did they join with the Nazis, but it was to fight against the glorious peoples revolution!
There was only one country on the side of the Third Reich that had a field synagogue. Finland.
Oh, I understand. You can definitely make a case against him. But, tying your political fortunes to Ghandi-hatred? That just strikes me as really bad positioning. Hence the fuzzy warm puppies and apple pie.
Yeah, the “racist and sexual predator” allegations have some evidence behind them as well.
Still, I get the point wdalasio is making.
It isn’t about the men themselves, it is about the ideas the espoused.
What he represented is more important than the Jellybean he actually was.
Ghandi pushed non-violent means. The left has no use for him. I can’t wait until they un-person Martin Luther King. They want to and it is just a matter of time.
He came up with that phrase all the racists love to say “Content of their character, over the color of their skin” so he’s like the OG white supremacist/ White Antifa Kid
And he pushed non-violence so doubleplusungood.
Non-violence for political change. He had no problem with gun ownership for self protection.
Note how they keep quoting him on “Riots are the language of the unheard” while eliding the passage from the same speech where he says:
Context is Racist
They’ve been laying the foundations on MeToo grounds for some time.
Colorblindness is racist.
“He was named after an anti-semite!”
Oh, no, they’d view that as positive.
The M9 conversion did not happen because I am very dumb.
What I think happened is, when I sent the incomplete kit back for replacement I failed to remove the firing pin plunger (which is not part of the kit) from the kit safety lever. So now, I don’t have a complete firing pin.
Fortunately, Brownells exists, and I bought a replacement for $2. Plus $5 shipping. I could have upgraded to a stainless part for an extra dollar, but I’m always paranoid about galvanic corrosion.
I’m having flashbacks to the early days of the internet where you could find anything for less, but the shipping cost more than the retail price of the product.
I wound up buying lawnmower parts in person because of that phenomenon.
Unfortunately, gun stores aren’t part of the current reopening phase.
Dumb question, especially considering my background: galvanic corrosion with SS? Is that a thing?
I don’t think it is when put against ferritic metals, but I did mention I’m paranoid.
Austentic steel/Aluminum is definitely a problem.
I had a Smith 629 that has standard carbon steel case hardened guts that is easily 40 years old. No problems so far.
actually, ss and carbon steel will form a galvanic couple, says so right in my bible.
So, does that mean the guts will rust or not?
As I said, my 629 was made in …uh….’69? ’70?
The guts are as clean as the day they were manufactured. It has a damned fine trigger on it.
Also, SS is a generalization that is not really a thing. There are quite a few different recipes.
exactly, it’s hard to generalize, but that’s what AISC says.
it maybe that whatever compounds you’re adding are also protecting it. moisture is a big catalyst as I’m sure you know.
It takes more than just dissimilar metals. Most guns are oiled and kept away from water and moisture. Put that shit in some salt water and you have a problem. Gun safes rarely have salt water in them.
: needs to move where i store my ocean water :
Years ago I broke or lost some small part on my 92FS. May have been the spring on the ejector. Called Beretta and they shipped me a replacement at no cost. Wasn’t under warranty either.
Trying to figure out the SCOTUS ruling and all I can see is that Hooters is going to have to hire nuns.
all I can see is that Hooters is going to have to hire
nuns</strike> tranniesNuns striking trannies? I get that they have opposing viewpoints, but most nuns are non-violent? right?
*yardstick thwack*