Monday Morning Links

by | Jun 22, 2020 | Daily Links | 421 comments

A point closer…

A Liverpool-Everton snoozefest topped the sports weekend for me. Well, that and Arsenal losing to Brighton and dropping to the bottom half of the table.  That was hilarious. Oh, and Webb Simpson won the Heritage. And NASCAR must have the worst security in all of sports.Well, that’s one possibility, anyway. That’s it for sports.

(Pow) Wow!

Notorious bankrobber John Dillinger was born on this day. He shares it with underrated filmmaker Billy Wilder, singer and actor Kris Kristofferson, Pistol Pete Maravich, actress Meryl Streep, cultural appropriator Elizabeth Warren, acting genius Bruce Campbell, and Clyde The Glide Drexler.

OK, now…the links!

Remember when people said statues belonged in museums instead of in public? That was bullshit.

Coming down!

This is unsurprising. They seem to know who all of these people are. Yet never seem able to stop them.

Get a load of who this war-monger is bitching about. The left’s embrace of a sociopath like Bolton is hilariously predictable.

You might want to turn that side the other way, CHAZ.

This is working out as expected. Shouldn’t be long before they blame everybody but themselves. Oh wait, that’s already happening.

I’m shocked! Shocked to see shootings going on in New York. (Note: there are no winnings to collect.)

Happy Father’s Day, Chicago! Well, as long as you survived the weekend.

I think I know why they were all robbed. Maybe they need to let the owners use armed security.

Thank the Lord!!!! This may not impact many of you, but it sure does me.

Here you go! A solid, upbeat start to the week. Hope you enjoy it.

Now have a great Monday, friends!

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421 Comments

  1. OneOut

    Third ?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      HA! HA!

  2. OneOut

    Third?

  3. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I’m finding it difficult to read the news without blowing a gasket lately.

    • Trigger Hippie

      I’ve been binging on audiobooks, myself.

      As much as I love you guys, I can’t spend more than a few minutes at a time here without recoiling in disgust over some of the links provided. Feeling upset and ineffectual is no way to spend one’s day.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’ve been playing too many video games when I should be writing.

      • Trigger Hippie

        I tried replaying KOTOR recently as a Sith Lord and the game completely crashed right before traveling to the Star Forge.

        I CAN’T WIN AT ANYTHING!!!!….BLAAARRRGGGG!!!!

      • sloopyinca

        I’m sorry my links disgust you.

        ::sobs into pillow::

      • Trigger Hippie

        Your avatar has never seemed more appropriate. 😉

      • Trials and Trippelations

        I am in a similar boat. I can’t do too much of the glib and news stuff. Postponed listening to Tom Woods and political audiobooks for a couple of weeks, and listened to the Dresden files instead.

        I am gonna try to listen to some podcasts this week

      • Yet Another Dev

        New Dresden Files incoming soon. Peace Talks FTW

      • Ted S.

        My music links make you feel upset and ineffectual?

      • Trigger Hippie

        As if I click on your olden timey music links…OMG.

        /teenage girl

      • Mojeaux

        I listened to Jordan Peterson a lot yesterday. I downloaded his audiobook from the library so I’m going to listen to that. His manner of truth-telling sprinkled with a tidge of nihilism is actually quite hopeful.

      • UnCivilServant

        His voice still causes me to fall asleep at the wrong time.

      • straffinrun

        eeeeww.

      • UnCivilServant

        That reaction says more about the contents of your mind than anything else.

      • straffinrun

        In my mind, he uses your preferred pronouns. *Woke*

      • Mojeaux

        I kinda like it. It’s different, sort of higher-pitched grainy.

      • straffinrun

        I like the barely concealed rage delivered in a soft Canadian tone.

      • Mojeaux

        Yes! YES!!! Thank you! That’s what I’m hearing and I love it.

      • Incentives Matter

        That’s every Canadian’s “tone.”

      • Trigger Hippie

        I’m curious if his health had improved. And can’t remember the details but I do remember reading an article quoting his daughter where she stated that he was suffering from a slew of health issues late last year.

      • Tundra

        Dave Rubin said he is doing better. Apparently he had some serious withdrawal issues relating to an anti-anxiety med he was taking.

        I really like the guy. I hope he is well.

      • Mojeaux

        Oh, good.

        This is what I listened to yesterday. Very uplifting (but then, I thought Dogma was the most faith-enhancing, uplifting movie I’d ever seen, so take that for what it’s worth).

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        His Biblical series is super interesting. I think it relates more to his previous book, “Maps of Meaning”. He ties the lessons, parables, etc. of the bibe into human psychology and story archetypes in a very interesting way.

      • Mojeaux

        I have some notes on some of the things he says in this video, which I intend to watch every day for a while. I may write them up for an article.

    • Festus' Mustache

      I’ve stopped paying attention except for the local rag and whatever comes up on here. I just plain don’t give a fuck, anymore. Every mainstream source is so biased that I fear I might stroke out or kick a kitten by the time I’m done listening. Sports are woke, weather is woke, news is a cesspit. To hell with it. I’m gonna retreat for awhile.

      • straffinrun

        Hard to tell if we’re at the end of the beginning or the beginning of the end of the giant shaft being jammed up our butts.

      • Trigger Hippie

        We’re all getting Eiffel Towered.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Ha!

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Yeh. I’m shutting down too.

        I fear good people, the ones who just don’t engage and just want to work, raise a family and live in peace are going to shut down further. And when good people start to ignore things, this is when it gets really concerning. It’s hard to ignore or turn a blind eye to all this ‘cultural revolution’ now. It’s gonna get worse before it gets better.

        This ‘we’re all racist’ through ‘systemic racism’ is a cottage industry that’s pure poison.

        The problem with that is a person with benign ‘white guilt’ will justify it in ways that will eventually come back to bit them. One, is ‘well we did steal the land from the Natives ergo (insert cause here. Which eventually leads to them being indifferent, for example, border control). Two, they believe it doesn’t apply to them….until it does. This part is the biggest challenge. Convincing someone who thinks ‘systemic racism” is real includes THEM as well. It wouldn’t surprise me if a good chunk of people actually believe that ‘systemic racism’ doesn’t apply to them because a) they’re no racism and b) they virtue-signal and figure they’re safe because they have nothing to hide.

        This is how you get gulags. I’m at the point if I know someone who thinks this way, I quietly put them in a black book of ‘quacks’.

      • Festus' Mustache

        I have my own little list of biases but I can honestly state that I’m not “racist”. For anyone to claim that I am based upon the color of my skin is a racist, full stop. I meet everyone with an open mind and a dagger in my belt.

      • leon

        “I meet everyone with an open mind and a dagger in my belt.”

        Sounds kind of like a variation on Teddy Roosevelt. And he was racist.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Fuck You, Racist! 🙂

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        If the dagger doesn’t go down after 4 hours, please consult a physician.

      • pan fried wylie

        a dagger in my belt

        For slicing the adjacent onion.

    • Idle Hands

      It’s almost like it’s by design. I swear to god these fuctards want something that’s fairly clear and explicit right wing violence. Between the gov walking with the protesters and standing with them in violation to their mandated orders on business’s to them letting them tear down statues and watching. They are trying to ratchet it up for someone to take this into their own hands so they can make that the whole election narrative about the endemic of violence trump has created.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        That’s inevitable. If there was good and sound leadership it could be avoided but the son of a bitches are taking sides.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      I look around at other places but I have to come back here and remind myself that not everyone in the country has gone insane.

      As nuts as that sounds, this place is helpful for my sanity by calling bullshit on what’s going on these days.

      • leon

        Need to ramp up the insanity here.

      • Swiss Servator

        Are not SugarFree Wednesdays enough?

      • bacon-magic

        WHY DO YOU FORGET ABOUT STEVE SMITH, AM I A JOKE TO YOU? *RAPES SWISSY FOR EMPHASIS

      • Swiss Servator

        STEVE SMITH isn’t insane – it s YOU who are crazy!

      • EvilSheldon

        Bullshit, bullshit, sports, weather, bullshit?

  4. Trigger Hippie

    ‘Nobody notified us that five dispensaries had been robbed. The city didn’t warn us. The police didn’t warn us. We didn’t know, so Magnolia didn’t even know to be prepared.”‘

    “That is why you fail.”

    Seriously though, I’m sure the takeaway from this for them will NOT be to be better armed and better prepared…and really? Didn’t think this would be a likely possibility?

    • cyto

      This is how they close the article

      “People are protesting inequalities, a lack of opportunities, the unfairness of racism and, of course, the police murdering black people in our streets right before our eyes. People who are in gangs and committing crimes are doing so for the same reasons. In our opinion, whether it’s protesters or robbers, the underlying issues are the same: racism, lack of opportunity inequality, police brutality. That part we get and we think it’s important to point that out too.”

      So I guess that makes it OK then. Someone call Chicago and let them know the murder rate is actually due to racism. Maybe then they will actually do something.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Hell, if all these dispensaries were in fact owned by the same group or owner I’m damn near inclined to believe that this may be a smokescreen for insurance fraud and the platitudes are just extra cover.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        See?

        This is the type of shit that makes me blow a gasket.

      • Rebel Scum

        police murdering black people in our streets right before our eyes

        Black people are murdering black people in droves (as per the usual) and 60+ people were shot in Chicago alone this past weekend*. I’d imagine most were black. Maybe concentrate on real problems for once.

  5. Festus' Mustache

    All of those Chicago shootings were cases of mistaken identity. It was Father’s Day…

    • Rhywun

      Do better, Indiana.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Be Better.

  6. UnCivilServant

    Mornin’ Glibs.

    I’m trying to write more while avoiding melting. Luckily those are note mutually exclusive.

    However, they are exclusive with work. 🙁

    With luck I’ll have stuff for you lot soon.

    • bacon-magic

      *insert Wicked Witch from Oz melting scene here*
      *throws joints and glitter in air for edit fairies*

  7. The Late P Brooks

    BRING BACK STOP AND FRISK.

    • Trigger Hippie

      Kinky.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Depends upon who is the stopper and if I’m feeling “frisky”… Some of those young maidens in the RCMP are pretty fine.

      • Trigger Hippie

        If their staches are as bitchin’ as yours, I’m sold.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Don’t judge!

      • Rebel Scum

        Frisky.

  8. The Late P Brooks

    McPaper wants to be on the right side of history

    The big broom of history has been clearing out the rubble this month, furiously sweeping away at some of the most enduring racist symbols still in American stores and restaurants.

    ►The Aunt Jemima pancake mix brand got brushed into the dustbin after 131 years when its owner, Quaker Oats, acknowledged it was based on a racial stereotype.

    ►Sambo’s restaurant in Santa Barbara, California, the last store in a chain that started in 1957, dropped its name after being pressured to account for the racist history behind it.

    ►Uncle Ben’s rice, Mrs. Butterworth’s syrup and Cream of Wheat porridge also have used imagery that has connoted smiling Black servitude to white masters. Those stereotyped images are being changed or reviewed, according to the companies that own those brands – all part of a corporate reckoning that experts say has been a long time coming.

    “Better late than never, but these images have caused a lot of damage for a long period of time, and that should not be forgotten,” said Todd Boyd, professor of race and pop culture at the University of Southern California.

    NO JUSTICE, NO PANCAKES!

      • Festus' Mustache

        I don’t know whether this is the hill that they have decided to die on or just incremental ratcheting. Brain says “yes”.

    • Rhywun

      Damn, where am I to turn for my daily fill of smiling Black servitude to white masters?!

      • sloopyinca

        There’s always the DNC.

      • Rhywun

        *snort*

      • Festus' Mustache

        We keep ours in the cellar. As one is wont to do.

      • Sean

        Steve Harvey?

      • Trigger Hippie

        Now there’s a Bee headline for ya:

        DNC Declared by DNC as Only Historically Racist Organization Worth Salvaging

      • Trigger Hippie

        Er, that was for Sloopy.

    • leon

      “The big broom of history has been clearing out the rubble this month, ”

      History must always proceed into progress.

      • Festus' Mustache

        The big broom of history. So like with a cloth?

    • Chipwooder

      Todd Boyd, professor of race and pop culture at the University of Southern California

      Ah, a true scholar of a notably rigorous discipline!

    • Rebel Scum

      it was based on a racial stereotype…smiling Black servitude to white masters.

      I never got that impression from any of these brands.

    • WTF

      these images have caused a lot of damage for a long period of time

      Assuming facts not in evidence.

  9. Rebel Scum

    City shootings piled up at a rate of one per hour on Saturday — with more gunplay on Sunday — as an NYPD chief warned that hundreds of gun-possession defendants have been allowed to prowl Gotham thanks to coronavirus-closed courts.

    Mentioned a headline stating 56 people shot in Chicago over the weekend while visiting my father yesterday. Joked that there was still time for more carnage. Apparently 4 more people were shot in the afternoon/evening. Sometimes it is not so good to be correct.

  10. The Late P Brooks

    Racism, in this sense, keeps poor white workers down as well as non-white workers, dividing them and distracting them from the power they could realize if they banded together, Roberts said. President Lyndon Johnson, who signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, recognized this dynamic in a famous quote.

    “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket,” he said. “Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

    In this regard, Aunt Jemima and these other brands essentially helped give white Americans another “somebody to look down on.” Roberts said these images were staring right back at them in the kitchen, serving them with a smile and supporting the societal order that helped drive profit for corporate America.

    Kkkorporations, man. They suck.

    • Rhywun

      What a steaming pile of horseshit. Anything to support the narrative, I guess.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Fomenting hatred. They will not divide us! Rheee!

      • cyto

        Well, I know that all the white people that I know buy their products based on whether or not they can look down on the people who are on the label.

    • Trigger Hippie

      So, since I’ve been working poor or working class most of my life and have spent most of a decade living in black neighborhoods does that make me an honorary black man now? Or am I an even worse racist for not fighting white privilege hard enough after residing within the “authentic urban black experience”?

      Just want to know in which direction my session is supposed to struggle.

      • UnCivilServant

        Having grwon up in a majority black neghborhood, I can tell you that pretty much all of the ills I saw were self-inflcited by the residents.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Yep, just like pretty much almost anybody, anywhere else in a wealthy society. Myself included.

      • Festus' Mustache

        I dunno but if Stacy Abrams is after your skinny white ass, resistance is futile. Ignore those cuntes.

    • PieInTheSky

      I understand the family of Aunt Jemima do not support the removal of her image

    • Tulip

      Aunt Jemima was too expensive. We always bought Jiffy.

      • Trigger Hippie

        ^

        This chick gets it.

      • straffinrun

        Brand name? Not in our family of 8.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Something, something, luxury, something, something, shoebox in the middle of the street.

    • Jarflax

      I do not recall ever looking down on a logo based on its race. I really wonder how messed up you have to be mentally to feel superior to a drawing?

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s part of a cluster of mental illnesses induced by forms of psychological abuse found in academia.

      • Trigger Hippie

        ….I feel superior to all drawings.

        I know, I know. I get what you’re saying. I’m just being an ass.

        😉

      • pan fried wylie

        “Ya 2D piece of crap!”

      • AlexinCT

        The reason we are here today Jarflax, is because so many have been conditioned to see EVERYTHING through a race/gender/sexual orientation lense. I have interacted with these people and found to the last one they were people of low or lazy intellect with a need/desire to find a way to profit from their perceived grievances. None of them care to fix anything: just to get attention, get paid, and to torture and scare those they know are better people than them.

  11. Rebel Scum

    “The American Museum of Natural History has asked to remove the Theodore Roosevelt statue because it explicitly depicts Black and Indigenous people as subjugated and racially inferior,” de Blasio’s office said in a statement to CNN. “The city supports the museum’s request. It is the right decision and the right time to remove this problematic statue.”

    That’s not the way it appears to me.

    • leon

      Is he trampling them q with his horse? Also, I’m surprised they would go for the OG progressive president.

      • UnCivilServant

        He murdered all those Puerto Ricans and was a big advocate of Hunting. Hunting!

      • sloopyinca

        Wait till they find out what the other Roosevelt president did with all those Japanese-Americans.

        Oh wait, they don’t care.

      • leon

        Would all the leftist pages that have him as an Avatar be cancelled? Or would removing his image be enough?

      • Nephilium

        That was different. Because of reasons.

        Now we just need to put all the Trump voters into camps to save our country.

    • Idle Hands

      I thought the thought was we move these offensive and problematic statues to museums where they are to be preserved? Have we moved past that notion as a movement?

      • UnCivilServant

        Unpersons are to be removed from all records.

        /Minitruth

      • AlexinCT

        The only way to control a mob is to keep them inoculated from the knowledge and wisdom an understanding of history provides people. Destroy their history and the knowledge and wisdom that comes from it, especially by accusing said people and history to be evil, and you can manipulate the dumbed down mob with idiocy and lies the dumbest amongst them would have figured out otherwise.

        /Marxism 101.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      At least he’s not beating some kids like Arthur Ashe.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    Political savants

    Still, Harris allies see the first-term California senator and former state attorney general and San Francisco district attorney as bringing needed demographic balance to Biden’s ticket. They also see her prosecutorial resume as the ideal professional background in a political climate intensely focused on racial justice and policing, and her reputation as a sharp attack dog in Senate hearings as a key asset for a running mate.

    Perhaps most importantly for Harris’s chances, though, many Democrats believe she has more political and governing credibility than any other potential picks, save perhaps Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

    “She knows the system from inside, and she knows we have to have this whole cultural shift in policing in this country,” said California Rep. Barbara Lee, who endorsed Harris’s presidential campaign. “She’s very well-qualified, because of her background, to understand how we have to dismantle many of those systems.”

    Biden is facing increased pressure from other Democrats to select a woman of color.

    “There is a cry, there’s a clarion call, for us to do something different, for this country to literally face structural racism. … We feel like a Black woman could actually bring that to the ticket,” LaTosha Brown, the co-founder of Black Voters Matter Fund and a political strategist, recently told NPR.

    She knows the system. She’s colored. She’s a she. She’s perfect.

    • Rhywun

      They also see her prosecutorial resume as the ideal professional background in a political climate intensely focused on racial justice and policing

      I… can’t even. Imagine a white man with the same resume and tell me what this is really about.

    • leon

      By knowing the system from the inside, they mean: she used it to ruin hundreds of black American lives, but she is all for justice now. Even though she is in a stronger position to do it now than as VP

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        I can’t fathom how they are ignoring her record as prosecutor.

        Oh wait. Forgot they’re duplicitous fucks.

      • Rhywun

        They’re not ignoring it, they’re actively promoting it! Doublethink in action.

  13. Rufus the Monocled

    “They seem to know who all of these people are. Yet never seem able to stop them.”

    They’re busy harassing people for speech and removing statues.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      What catch potential terrorist murderers? Nope, better send the coppers to catch dead-namers on Twitter!

      • Rufus the Monocled

        It’s going to be very easy to chronicle how this ‘after glow epoch’ we’ve enjoyed. Historians will have an easy time building this story because of communications being what it is. It’s all there.

        What’s crazy is this is tyranny of the MINORITY.

  14. PieInTheSky

    He shares it with underrated filmmaker Billy Wilder- is he underrated? I though his movies are quite acclaimed…

    • Festus' Mustache

      Indeed. He pops up on TCM pretty regularly.

    • sloopyinca

      Then he’s still underrated.

  15. Rebel Scum

    President Donald Trump’s longest-serving national security adviser John Bolton condemned his presidency as dangerously damaging to the United States and argued the 2020 election is the last “guardrail” to protect the country from him.

    John Bolton is damaging to the Unites States. And hopefully Trump is damaging to John Bolton.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Jon Bolton and Me. Stacho a Stacho. May the best stache win!

    • Rhywun

      One wonders why John Bolton willingly chose to associate himself longest-servingly with such a dangerously damaging administration.

      • AlexinCT

        Someone needed to tell Trump-Putin-Hitler that we needed more bombings!

    • leon

      “condemned his presidency as dangerously damaging to the United States and argued the 2020 election is the last “guardrail””

      First of all, coming from Bolton, that’s an endorsement is Trump.

      Second, it’s nice how, no matter what bad spot we are in, we are never so forgone that we don’t have a last chance to save the country by delivering it into the hands of the left.

      This alone, convinces me that the neocon anti Trump right it’s the driving force behind the Biden campaign.

      • cyto

        Apparently his biggest criticism of trump is that he did not bomb Iran. He viewed Trump’s last minute decision to pull the plug on the bombing as an immense betrayal of the United States.

        Unsurprisingly, I have not seen anyone on CNN mentioning this. I mean, it is only the central point of the book. But I suppose that “Donald Trump, man of peace” is not that great of a message for them.

      • leon

        Seriously, the guy is a one track diskette. If he doesn’t like someone, it’s because they said “I don’t think war with Iran is good”. If Bolton endorses Biden, you can be sure it’s because he believes Biden will bomb Iran.

        When did Iran piss in this guys cheerios? And if you say 1979 revolution and embassy hostages, americans need to fucking get over it. The time for reprisal was then not 40 years later.

    • Jarflax

      The most favorable way to judge Trump is by his enemies.
      The least favorable is by his character.

      I am starting to believe that clinical depression is just the name lotus eaters give to the sane.

  16. Rufus the Monocled

    So. If I’m a taxpayer and a public institution removes something I like, do I have the option of no longer paying a tax for it?

    Asking for a friend.

    It’s like the CBC. Exist away. Just don’t steal tax dollars from me since I don’t listen.

    I mean, fair is fair, right?

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Sorry. Piece of shit de Blasio did it.

      • Festus' Mustache

        CBC has infuriated one too many times. I won’t listen any longer. Outright lies on top of an already slanted perspective. Our taxes pay for that bullshit. I should have gone cold turkey 3 years ago but the schadenfreude was too delicious. Now it’s indigenous this, gender that on every fucking show. I’m out.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        It’s hard to believe a ‘moderate’ person doesn’t tired of it. It used to be we’d listen and dismiss their identity politics as cute. We knew it was left-wing but the values of the country seemed in tact so we could weather whatever pet project they had going. But now….wow. It’s a full on attack on the nation. It’s defend that degenerate pinko piece of shit at all cost. It’s Indigenous rights this, Covid will kill us that, racism is everywhere this every ‘diversity’ hire under the sun spews to us.

        The only hope is there’s just not enough listeners to sustain this crap. I rather enjoy reading comments on YouTube on mainstream media channels like the CBC, CTV etc. The like/dislike ratio is heartening given how many people there aren’t buying the bull shit.

        On a free platform where the market of ideas reigns free (up to a point of course as we know given youtube’s shenanigans) they don’t stand a bloody chance. Rosemary Barton becomes immediately exposed for the talentless partisan hack that she is when she’s not hiding behind the CBC shield.

        Let’s hope the market somehow finds a way to eventually sink the CBC and its propaganda.

      • Festus' Mustache

        It will take an act of Parliament and I’m not sure if the Cons will ever get back into power again. Peter McKay? Erin O’Toole? Fuck.

  17. Rufus the Monocled

    So. Another question. All these statues being moved. Over/under they come back and a later point? With the over being it happens.

    • UnCivilServant

      Some point being what time frame?

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Good question. Couple of years when things pass? Along those lines?

    • Rhywun

      They will never come back. Who cares about statues any more? Well, other than statues of the “correct” people.

      • Festus' Mustache

        They are not coming back, ever. Melted for scrap and die-cast for the first AOC five dollar coinage.

    • straffinrun

      They’ll be toppling meat statues before too long if nobody stops them.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Probably. The scary part for me is that I’m the object of their wrath. A middle-aged White guy that isn’t wealthy and dislikes performative politics and Post-Modernism. They want my head on a spike for no reason other than that my species exists. Come and get it.

      • straffinrun

        Nothing to be scared of, really. They’re just nihilists.

      • Tres Cool

        nihilists? I mean, say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, but at least its an ethos.

      • straffinrun

        You’re doing that on purpose and I’m impressed.

      • Tres Cool

        Dude…

    • PieInTheSky

      Instead of statues affordable housing should be built

      • UnCivilServant

        Bronze artists aren’t often builders too.

        And the funding comes from different places.

      • Sean

        Capitalist! Free housing should be built.

      • Festus' Mustache

        The bread is free, too but I hear tell there may be a queue.

      • AlexinCT

        And no bread when you make it to the front of the queue…

    • Certified Public Asshat

      The #cancelyale trend gained 0 traction, so maybe it has started to pass.

    • Idle Hands

      It’s over they are gone forever.

  18. Rebel Scum

    Trouble in Soyattle.

    Journalist Andy Ngo, who has been assaulted by antifa in the past, spent five days inside Seattle’s soviet, the secessionist, segregationist CHOP, and reports on the terrors inside the barricades.

    On Thursday, police arrested Robert James after he left the CHAZ. He is accused of sexually assaulting a deaf woman who was lured inside a tent. The same day, former city council candidate Isaiah Willoughby was arrested on suspicion of starting the arson attack on the East Precinct June 8.

    “…lured inside a tent…” This indicates that the alleged sexual assault occurred inside CHOP but the self-appointed armed patrol inside Seattle’s “autonomous zone” did nothing about it. CHOPistan uses tents for food distribution, gathering points, and all manner of other purposes. And this is one known sexual assault. Police cannot get in to deal with the vast majority of calls coming from inside CHOP for the time being.

    • leon

      I feel bad for the people inside who don’t want the chaos of the zone, can’t defend themselves, and Are being sacrificed and ignored by the state and Media.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Media: Enemies. Of. The. People.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        And the Mayor. Wow. In a just world, she’d have to account for this because this is absofuckinglutely on her.

        This is what’s so infuriating. Her inaction and playing with identity politics is leading to crime. It’s stunning Mayors can get away with this sort of irresponsible behaviour.

      • cyto

        I cannot even wrap my head around it.

        When it started a couple of years ago with mayors refusing to protect rallies for groups like The Proud boys, I thought that should be enough to get the community outraged.

        Whether you support group or not,you certainly cannot support the government who announced that they are withdrawing police protection in the face of a group who announces that they are going to violently assault the people holding an event.

        Can you imagine any government in the last 50 years announcing that they will not protect an NAACP rally because the Klan says they are going to violently assault the rally? It never happened, and it wouldn’t happen because the citizens would not tolerate it. The police would be there in force stop any violence.

      • straffinrun

        Yep. It’s almost like you can’t rest on your laurels and hope that evil you see growing will just go away. Not an inch ever.

      • robc

        cant or wont defend themselves?

      • leon

        I’m not up to speed on the Gun Laws in seattle, but i imagine they are onerous, and keep people from defending themselves effectively against a marauding band of thieves and arsonists.

      • robc

        But they aren’t in Seattle anymore.

      • robc

        Quick google, looks like Washington State is fairly easy. Open carry allowed, concealed carry on a “shall issue” basis. There are places you can’t carry, but everywhere not specified listing is allowed.

        I don’t know what Seattle has done, but I am not sure if they are allowed to override the state.

        Seattle apparently has a gun and ammo tax.

      • robc

        There is state preemption over all laws relating to handguns and long guns. No law is allowed to be more restrictive than the state law. Local authorities cannot ban firearms from state parks but can place certain restrictions as outlined in RCW 9.41.300 on other areas. Such areas are stadiums or convention centers operated by the local authority (does not apply if you have a CCW license) and restricting discharge in their jurisdiction, . They can also restrict areas that firearms can be sold in.

      • leon

        Hmm. I assumed Washington: West Coast. West Coast/East Coast/South/Midwest are all pretty much foreign countries to me. I don’t have much interest in “sending in the troops” to help people who won’t help themselves. But i still have some pity for the poor sap who has been thrust into the situation where they have been abandoned by the self proclaimed protectors of the law.

        That being said I have some interest in making sure the West Coast doesn’t go to complete shit, because I’ve played New Vegas, and i know where the refugees will go.

      • EvilSheldon

        They’re not great, but they’re not so bad that they’d prevent someone from having effective self-defense tools.

    • PieInTheSky

      Andy Ngo is a fascist propagandist don’t listen to him

    • straffinrun
      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        That meme is on point. They are pretending at running a city just like we all used to make pillow forts while our moms baked us cookies.

        Infantile play-acting on a city-wide scale and people are dying for it.

      • EvilSheldon

        I’ve often said that progressivism is children throwing tantrums on a national scale.

      • Nephilium

        Exactly what I hoped it would be.

      • Nephilium

        They keep talking about the movie now. I’ll be entertained if they manage to fulfill the throw away line from the early episode.

        I saw that they did the table talk reads, and I’ve seen that there’s a podcast with Ken Jeong and Joel McHale.

  19. Trigger Hippie

    Meh, It’s not raining but I can’t work until the chance passes, which it may not do. Hope I don’t work Saturday. I was wanting to get a little drunk for the first time in almost a month Friday night.

    God hates Painter’s Whites.

    • leon

      Most of the accusations were anonn, so seems like this was coordinated.

    • mrfamous

      “Man, now I wish I bought some of her bathwater.”

      Snerk

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      The hero we need.

  20. Tundra

    Good morning Sloopy!

    And good morning to the rest of you insolent incorrigibles!

    Well, that’s a solid group of Monday lynx. My blood pressure, however, is still quite low. I wonder if all the bullshit over the last few months has broken my give-a-fuck meter?

    Good news about the schools in TX. Our cuntGov is still pimping the omgwe’reallgonnadie mantra, so I doubt that will happen here.

    As both mine will be headed to on-campus college in August, I don’t have a dog in this fight anymore. It was a strangely pleasant experience to unsubscribe from all of the school-related email lists.

    Anyway… what an excellent song! I may have played that one into four digits by now and it never gets old. Great choice!

    Despite all the shit, I hope you all have a great week. Go get what’s yours!

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I actually laughed. Don’t fuck with granny.

    • robc

      I think she was lying when she said she aimed for the floor. She aimed CoM and hit it.

      • UnCivilServant

        “You can’t buff bullet holes out of lineoleium.”

  21. Rebel Scum

    Because Drumpf and Co. are the ones “stoking racial tensions”…

    Black leaders in Tulsa chose to cover memorials to the 1921 Black Wall Street massacre yesterday before a visit by Vice President Mike Pence, saying they didn’t want Pence to use the memorials as a “photo-op.”

    They claimed that Pence’s visit during the day and Trump’s rally later that night were stoking racial tensions in the city and they didn’t want to give either Trump or Pence the opportunity to gain anything from the visit.

    It’s unclear what Pence’s itinerary was after his arrival in Tulsa. The Tulsa World reported that Pence wanted to visit Greenwood, the neighborhood that was the site for the 1921 massacre of 300 blacks by Klansmen.

    • leon

      “saying they didn’t want Pence to use the memorials as a “photo-op.””

      Yeah. It’s pence who is working up the racial tensions.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      My brother lives ten blocks from where they held the rally. He has some wild shit on video from that night. Surprisingly none of it made the news.

    • Chipwooder

      No event of any kind should ever again be held in Tulsa because there was a horrifying race riot 99 years ago.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    Out of nowhere

    The Legal Aid Society estimates that in New York alone, 50,000 evictions will be filed on Monday when the state’s blanket moratorium on evictions expires. The extended moratorium will only apply to renters who have suffered a financial hardship due to Covid-19, or who qualify for unemployment. This leaves out undocumented immigrants, certain gig workers or people working off the books, and renters with pending eviction cases.
    “I think that the United States can expect an avalanche of evictions that will impact the entire community and have a cascade of additional losses, everything from financial well-being to health, to housing opportunities across the country,” said Emily Benfer, director of the Health Justice Advocacy Clinic at Columbia Law School.
    It’s expected that people of color will be evicted at a much higher rate. Latinx and Black residents make up 18% and 12% of the US population, respectively, but account for 28% and 18% of people living in renter households who have suffered job or income loss due to Covid-19, according to a study by UC Berkeley.
    “Black households are more than twice as likely to be evicted as White households,” said Benfer. “It’s a significant impact that we’re going to have here, they will be the hardest hit.”
    And that could lead to record homelessness. The Coalition for the Homeless in New York City says its mobile soup kitchens have seen a 100% increase in need and their housing hotlines have been slammed with newly homeless people asking for help.
    “We’ve never seen anything like this,” said Dave Giffen, executive director of the Coalition for the Homeless. “We know that this isn’t the end. It’s not even the middle. This is only the beginning of the crisis.”

    Just the beginning? This crisis has been under construction for decades, in plain view of anybody who cared to look.

    As the article states elsewhere: “New York has lost 1.1 million affordable housing units (those that rent for $900 a month or less) over the last two decades, according to the Coalition for the Homeless. ”

    Where did those housing units go?

    • leon

      “The extended moratorium will only apply to renters who have suffered a financial hardship due to Covid-19, or who qualify for unemployment. ”

      So even still the ones evicted aren’t the ones being hurt by the most recent crisis. I know abolishing eviction is a leftist wet dream, but that will make things worse.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      “ As the article states elsewhere: “New York has lost 1.1 million affordable housing units (those that rent for $900 a month or less) over the last two decades, according to the Coalition for the Homeless. ”

      Imagine thinking of oneself as an objective, professional journalist truth-teller but eliding over that sentence without thinking about it critically.

      • Don Escaped any Landslide

        economic illiteracy is killing our political discourse, particularly the refusal to see most transactions as parts of markets and us all as buyers and sellers

        Both sides resort to empty tropes when simple economics don’t help their cause.
        a/ Business conservatives never complain about their own success in the talent market, but they trot out mindless lines like “you can’t find good people any more” when they don’t like what markets tell them.
        b/ Progs insist that X does jobs that Y won’t do (anymore) without weighing the salaries. As I pointed out in a family debate last night, assembly work in the midwest was once highly desirable; those same jobs have changed only in fractions, but the salaries are half.

        It’s okay for markets to move prices and for us each to price ourselves and enact our own utility curves and for that to show up in the demographics. But to ignore market realities to strengthen half-true partisan tropes is duplicitous.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        This I know:

        You cannot find local workers in Virginia for concrete finishing at $80k/year with benefits.

        The only ones who will do it are the ones swimming the river right now.

        The school boards have absolutely zero interest in promoting careers in skilled labor because they’re hell bent on everyone going to college. Our educational system is absolutely broken.

      • robc

        Hmmmm….I can spend a huge amount of college, plus 4 years, then work for, say 10 years, to get to $80k*. Or I can graduate high school and spend 6 months? 1 year? learning concrete and can make $80k. Is that about the right time frame? Is is a bit longer? I don’t know enough about concrete obviously.

        Also, where in VA?

        *depending on job, but I am assuming the future docs and lawyers aren’t weighing this option.

      • Mojeaux

        Electricity, water, and bricks are excellent trades also.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        SE corner

        It’s tough work, but it pays and there’s a career path to start your own business later.

      • Ownbestenemy

        That is what rational people do, but Big Education players don’t even entertain the idea that some people *looks in mirror* are just not wired for college***. Education beyond high school is just a business with very few minor exceptions IMO.

        ***This is one of my constant arguments with my wife. I say not all our kids need to go to college and she assumes that means to just stop learning. I am arguing that college doesn’t mean education anymore. Its an industry.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        The “college isn’t necessary” argument is even more relevant now that all they learn on campus is Marxist dialectic and struggle sessions.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        And I will say as a high school teacher that some of my most successful ex-students went the HVAC route and are making far more money than I am. College isn’t a requirement to being a successful adult, K-12 propaganda aside.

      • Ownbestenemy

        HVAC is so lucrative. As Mo pointed out above, there are prestigious careers that get scoffed at because they dont follow the college path.

      • Gender Traitor

        Put your wife onto some of Mike Rowe’s recent advocacy re: training for skilled trades vs college for all. If Mike can’t win her over…

        ***SIGH!!!*** Mike Rowe… ::gets faraway look in eyes::

      • robc

        My nephew did it, only HVAC, not concrete, MD not VA.

      • Mojeaux

        “Prestigious” is the operative word here. NOBODY thinks the trades are prestigious. They MAY have a slight inkling that tradesmen are making bank (if they think about it), but the trades are “the help” and largely invisible. A college degree is “prestigious” even if it’s useless.

        Yes, lots of people scoff at BAs in underwater basket weaving, but it’s STILL a college education which is valued amongst the upper classes simply for the possession of it (although I’d argue now it’s a PhD). Your bank balance isn’t a valid measure of your worth if you don’t have a college degree.

        This is a class issue. Like in England, there are castes of penniless gentry versus merchants. Gentry overrides merchants no matter how much money either one of them have. Smarts and money do not override class.

      • UnCivilServant

        there are prestigious careers that get scoffed at because they dont follow the college path.

        I never scoff at somebody who does a job I need doing and don’t want to do myself.

      • Ownbestenemy

        GT – I have slowly won her over after explaining that learning and true education doesn’t solely come from a college classroom. Mike Rowe is an effective advocate for what the trades can do for you.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I hesitated to set up a 529 for my daughter because of this. What if she wants to start her own business or go into a trade or (God forbid ?) get married young and have a family? 529 plans are good for one thing, and that’s guiding kids to college.

        However, one of Trump’s big wins has been his tax cuts, especially where the rules were changed to allow 529s to be used for private primary and secondary school.

      • Pine_Tree

        One of the examples I use in trying to explain this is billboards. Nowadays you can be driving down the interstate and see billboards with colleges advertising themselves (usually what you’d consider 2nd-tier state schools). This didn’t really exist a generation ago, and is a perfect sign of what’s different. If they were really worthwhile, they should be kicking away qualified applicants.

        Higher education (trade or professional) should be a filter, not a pump.

      • robc

        Good point, and the top schools still are a filter.

      • robc

        My only issue with that is I think the filter should be on getting out, not getting in.

        Well, the getting in filter needs to exist too, to avoid issues of the unqualified who wont have a chance.

        I was glad GT was still (relatively) easy to get in to in 1987. The primary filter was Calculus, Chemistry and Physics.

      • Pine_Tree

        I sorta agree. I run a lot of interviews for Engineering interns and new-hires, and while there are plenty of very-impressive candidates, there’s a definite population of folks being pumped who shouldn’t be.

        I get the impression that they made the incoming filter/hurdle higher, but then after that they made the internal ones much, much easier so that everybody passes. Not quite literally, but not far from it. I think average GPA these days would shock and dismay you.

        Generally agree on the old-days filters – I remember that the second Physics was Electromagnitism, with the names E-mag, Re-mag, or Three-mag, depending on whether a person was taking, re-taking, or re-re-taking. Several of the entry-level ME classes (Dynamics and DefBods) also were the killers.

      • robc

        My roommate was a math major who senior year was TA for Calculus. Another friend asked about the qualifications, which are basically A in the series. The friend was like, “Oh, I thought since I took them all twice I would have enough experience.”

        He was serious about taking them all twice. He was on and off probation, graduated in ME with something like a 2.1 GPA. He actually did pretty good in the ME classes, that he understood. It was everything else that pulled him down.

        And I don’t want to talk about DefBods. I absolutely aced the final to get a C in that one.

      • Pine_Tree

        High-school friend ended up in the Square-Root Club his first quarter (square root of his GPA was higher than his GPA…).

        When I took DefBods, the numerical grading was all curved, so you could get like a 32 on a test and it still be an A or B. After drop-day, half the class disappeared (even after making scores like that I thought I was doing OK-enough), but everybody who didn’t drop actually ended up passing the class. The whole manner of instruction changed after drop-day.

      • Timeloose

        The Engineering statics and dynamics classes were serious weed out classes as well as Physics, Chemistry, and Calculus 1-3. The part that was most difficult for young Time was needing to take 18 credits a semester if you wanted to graduate on time (4 years). The first 2 years were technical overload and challenging. If I had any recommendations to my former self it would be to take 12-15 credits per semester and go over the summer to take your cake classes while you work full time.

      • littleruttiger

        Yeah, the school I went to had a cap on the number of credits a degree program could have. This led to some programs getting creative – I felt bad for chemisty/physics students who had a 1 credit lab that consisted of something like 3 or 4 hours of lab a week and then a lab write up that would take at least the same amount of time

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I think that co-op programs should be the standard in engineering school. My degree took 5 years, but I graduated with a year and a half of work experience under my belt.

      • robc

        Dynamics was the only time I ever voluntarily took a class with Professor STAFF. There were two sections at same time that fit my schedule. One with a horrible professor and one unannounced. So I took STAFF.

        My class was full, I think 50 of us. The other section had like 6 people. The professor came in first day and said that due to the imbalance

      • littleruttiger

        In my experience, at least 1/4 to 1/3 of a given class shouldn’t have gone to college, and I was associated with classes that had a lot of engineers going through.
        That 1/4 to 1/3 didn’t seem to like the material, didn’t seem to have an aptitude for it, and just didn’t care – I always wondered why they weren’t steered into trades. If they can even get a job in their field, they’ll probably spend their time doing relatively low-tier work they hate, because the talented engineers will be doing the interesting stuff, for less money than they could get going the skilled labor route.
        I don’t get it either.

      • UnCivilServant

        even 1/3rd seems low in terms of “should not have gone to college”

      • littleruttiger

        Yeah.
        It does make me laugh though when people talk about why the cost of college has risen so much and don’t seem to know why

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        There’s a ton of sunk cost fallacy involved. If you’re two and a half years into a 4 year degree and you realize that you’re not exactly cut out for it, you can either power through for another year and a half and get a decent, if not exciting, job, or you can add 2 years to your college tenure, get a degree in something else you may or may not like, and possibly be stuck in the same exact situation.

        There’s also quite a few diamonds in the rough that are available in the 2.2-2.8 GPA space whose performance at school was low relative to their value as employees in non-design roles.

      • littleruttiger

        Once you’re neck deep in it, it can be a tough choice to make.
        My girlfriend at the time got accepted into a geophysics grad program because she impressed a professor she took the class with – I knew she had a really good geology base, but virtually no physics base. I tried to be as encouraging as possible, but told her it would be very tough getting up to speed with the physics, and it would be a ton of work, and that she needed to decide if it was really what she wanted to do, since she seemed burnt out from school.
        Her parents were pressuring her to do it, and she ended up taking the offer.
        She spent about 2 years really working at it, then about 1 year mostly miserable with it, before leaving the program.
        I talked to her recently about it, she has no regrets quitting, she said it was the best choice she made.
        Everyone will be different, obviously, I just remember feeling really sorry for her when she was struggling with it.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    Maybe those newly evicted people can go build a Hooverville Cuomo Camp on the grounds of the state capitol.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    And good morning to the rest of you insolent incorrigibles!

    I read that as “insolvent”. Not yet, but headed that way.

    Will Snark for Food!

  25. Sean

    Oh, the humanity!

    A photo of the beer garden shows larges groups of people clustered together, with most not wearing masks. Most patrons are not seated at tables.

    • leon

      They were protesting the systemic racism in the brewing industry.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Instant virus immunity

      • bacon-magic

        No Justice, No Yeast!

    • UnCivilServant

      Find who reported them and lock them in the stocks with an ample supply of animal droppings laying around.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      I don’t understand wearing masks at a bar or restaurant, even if you operate under the assumption that surgical masks actually protect you or everyone is wearing N95 masks.

      If the mask has served it’s purpose of protecting you, then it will have coronavirus on the outside surface. Each time you touch the mask to move it for eating/drinking, you will get coronavirus on your fingers, which will then contaminate the food/drink you’re consuming. It’s an idiot-proof sure way of actually getting coronavirus if you believe it’s in the bar.

      Am I missing something blindingly obvious here? Seriously, I’ll be sharing some meals soon with ultra-mask believers and am trying to explain to them why wearing a mask while eating/drinking is dangerous even if you accept the (false) premise of masks protecting you. I will also be trying to sell them magic tiger corona rocks if anyone wants in at the ground floor.

      • Tundra

        Am I missing something blindingly obvious here?

        Yes.

        “People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.”

      • Ownbestenemy

        Probably the best line from a movie for these times

      • Don Escaped any Landslide

        SHUT UP, LOGICTARD !

      • mrfamous

        “Am I missing something blindingly obvious here?”

        Yes. The point of the masks is to convince people they’re “safe” to go out and engage in commerce. The gov’t overplayed its hand and terrified people to such an extent that merely opening things up wasn’t gonna do the trick. That’s why they want to make it mandatory: if people see lots of others not wearing masks, they’ll feel less safe and not want to go out.

        Now I’m heading out to the one gym in town that isn’t going to force me to wear a mask while doing strenuous exercise.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        This guy gets it

      • straffinrun

        Good luck. It’s like trying to explain to a Prius owner that the electricity comes from somewhere.

      • Jarflax

        Yeah, but Unicorn farts heal the planet as they generate electricity. #ILoveScience

      • AlexinCT

        IT COMES OUT OF THE WALL!

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yes, you are missing that you don’t just immediately subscribe to what the State has told you to do. Hell, Fauci out right said it that we are too anti-science and untrustworthy of government mandates. Doesn’t matter if your logic and thought process is spot on, doesn’t matter if you highlight that the mortality rate is lower than predicted, or if the CDC was wrong that SARS can survive for 11 days on surfaces, or its R0 numbers were widely exaggerated.

        You are now the problem. You are now the science denier and you are selfish.

  26. Rebel Scum

    Since when do VA Dems care about “freedom”?

    Governor Ralph Northam (D) has proclaimed this year’s Juneteenth as “Juneteenth Freedom Day,” in hopes that all Virginians observe and take part in events across the commonwealth on Friday.

    Northam announced Tuesday that he would propose legislation to make Juneteenth, which commemorates the end of slavery in the U.S., a permanent paid state holiday alongside Virginia native and Grammy award-winning musician Pharrell Williams. 8News was the first to report the governor’s plans.

    “The history of Juneteenth is not just Black history—it is American history,” Northam said in a statement. “Juneteenth marks a pivotal moment in the American story that should be commemorated by all of us. I encourage Virginians across our Commonwealth to take the opportunity to deepen their knowledge and understanding of Juneteenth and celebrate the numerous contributions of Black and African Americans that have, for far too long, been overlooked.”

    I thought it only had something to do with TX, And I am sure glad that gov’t parasites workers get another taxpayer funded holiday.

    • Don Escaped any Landslide

      Juneteenth ain’t enough: I’m okay with bureaucrats taking 250 holidays a year

    • bacon-magic

      He should’ve done it in blackface, just like old times.

    • Idle Hands

      Don’t get me started It fucking pisses me off so much they just had a three month vacation and kept all their leave.

      • Rebel Scum

        And if I travel to any location that my employer deems a “hot zone” I have to do a 14 day quarantine upon my return, using my pto of course.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      The deal making that went on behind closed to keep Blackface Ralph as our governor must have been something to behold. The Progs own him now.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        This

        At least he can’t be reelected.

      • Chipwooder

        You’re assuming he’s being forced into something. Not sure what in Ralph Northam’s history would lead you to that assumption. He’s always been a prog piece of shit.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        Oh I agree that this whole twin pandemic thing (of Covid and insipid Marxism) is playing right into his totalitarian tendencies.

        I’m saying that any semi-moderating impulse that future re-election bids may have held over him were gone the minute that photo came out.

  27. robc

    Did the CHAZ shooting victim get taken to a hospital back in the USA? Did they need a passport?

    And what about the dead one? Does CHAZ have their own morgue?

    • UnCivilServant

      Hopefully they didn’t waste the protein. Those gardens will never feed the population.

      • AlexinCT

        Soiling Green CHAZ!

    • robc

      I am for (generally) open borders, but we don’t need to be providing ambulance and morgue services to residents of other countries.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        Nor do they need our police or fire or water or electricity services.

        They want to play Lord of the Flies in a blacked-out area of Seattle with no running water with their Red Guards patrolling the streets? Let em.

      • robc

        They won’t let the police in, so that is covered.

        Agreed on the others, if they are public services. I have no problem with a cross-boundary water or electric company, if it is private. Heck, it could be an unregulated utility in CHAZ and jack up the rates!

        Ditto fire and police, for that matter.

    • bacon-magic

      The garden is the morgue.

      • AlexinCT

        What a waste of long-pig…

    • UnCivilServant

      Propserity sucks, doesn’t it.

    • Drake

      Was that the goal of keeping our gyms closed?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It was the goal of the food pyramid.

      • AlexinCT

        Did that come from some tall space alien. Whom had a book named “To serve man”?

    • Tundra

      The changes in pigs’ levels of fat could be due to British farmers attempts to promote pork as a healthier and more diet friendly meat by offering leaner fillets and medallions of loin.

      Yeah, that’s not how it works.

      • Drake

        Really, I thought the newer breeds of pigs were selected for more lean muscle. The old-fashion breeds were fat.

      • Tundra

        I meant that lean =/= healthy. What you feed the pigs has a much bigger effect on healthiness than how lean the things are.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    No event of any kind should ever again be held in Tulsa because there was a horrifying race riot 99 years ago.

    Muh Chili Bowl!

    • Drake

      They don’t talk about how it started as a black race-riot, then a white counter-riot got completely out of control. That part is lost. Now it’s just evidence of white man bad, black man good. I swear they want history to repeat itself.

      • creech

        How so did it start as a black race riot? Wikipedia (not always to be trusted) says it started when a white man tried to prevent a black man from exercising his 2nd amendment rights.

      • bacon-magic

        Interesting, never heard of this before.

      • leon

        Ok, but if you want to know “The rest of the story”, They black mob was there because there was a white mob planning on lynching a black man at the courthouse.

      • leon

        On May 30, 1921, Dick Rowland, a young African American shoe shiner, was accused of assaulting a white elevator operator named Sarah Page in the elevator of a building in downtown Tulsa. The next day, the Tulsa Tribune printed a story saying that Rowland had tried to rape Page, with an accompanying editorial stating that a lynching was planned for that night. That evening mobs of both African Americans and whites descended on the courthouse where Rowland was being held.

        From the link you posted.

      • Jarflax

        Yeah, that is a far cry from “started as a black race riot”.

      • Drake

        That was the most neutral link I could find on short notice – which ended up being a foreign source. I swear the story was quite different a couple of years ago. Our statues aren’t the only aspect of our history being torn down.

      • Viking1865

        “The next day, the Tulsa Tribune printed a story saying that Rowland had tried to rape Page, with an accompanying editorial stating that a lynching was planned for that night”

        The media was always the enemy of the people.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That better be Morris.

      • Tundra

        Don’t insult me.

  29. LemonGrenade

    Morning, and happy Monday, Glibs! And it truly is a glorious Monday, because I have officially escaped Virginia! Settled in at the Silver Lake Jellystone, pretending everything is normal. Small children, ORVs, orange flags and big trucks everywhere, and not a single mask in sight, as long as you don’t go into town. If you, too, were about to lose your mind over the news and lockdown mania, I strongly recommend running away as well. I haven’t even made it to South Dakota yet, and I already feel much better!

    • Mojeaux

      Excellent!

      I hope you have a good time and that you’re scouting out places you could light and call home in the future.

      • LemonGrenade

        That definitely won’t be MI; this place is uninhabitable for half the year, but it sure is gorgeous in the summers. Seeing Sloopy’s news about TX schools suddenly put Texas much higher on the list, since I just finished filling out a survey for my own county where I stated flat out if they tried to rotate days or make the kids wear masks, I was pulling them out and homeschooling. Both kids finished Animal Farm in two days while we drove out here, and were able to carry on conversations with me about what Orwell was getting at. I’m appalled this was considered 8th grade honors reading at my son’s school. I may go ahead and try homeschooling anyway. I have trouble believing I could fuck up my kids’ education worse than the school was doing.

      • Viking1865

        The school of education at your average college has lower SAT scores than any other major. Teachers are, in the main, nice girls who love kids and want to have summers off and never work weekends. It doesn’t make them bad people. But there’s not a single Glib that’s dumber than the average teacher, and every Glib cares more about their children than even the best teacher in the world.

      • LemonGrenade

        We’ll see how it goes. Hubby is fully on board, so it’s mostly a question of our own level of commitment.

    • Sean

      Great news.

      Congrats!

    • Gender Traitor

      Bon voyage! Send lotsa postcards, ‘k?

    • straffinrun

      Enjoy. I was born just down the road.

      • LemonGrenade

        Thanks! We came through here last year when we toured all the great lakes, but I’d already blown most of our wad on tourist stuff and 4th of July show around Boldt castle, so we only hiked on the dunes. This year, I planned on an ORV rental, so here’s hoping the weather stays nice this afternoon!

    • leon

      History is white supremacist.

    • leon

      How much do you think Yale/Harvard spend to ensure that only their law school graduates end up on the Supreme Court?

      • robc

        They successfully eliminated that west coast Stanford scourge.

        Who was the last public law school supreme court justice?

      • robc

        Looks like Hugo Black, University of Alabama, 1971 end of term.

      • Rhywun

        Right?! Sally Pants ain’t taking down Columbus.

  30. The Other Kevin

    Have you seen the #cancelyale thing? I know it’s trolling but it makes a good point. All those ivy league schools were founded by slave owners, with money from the slave trade, and they sit on billions in endowments. I’m sure those schools were only allowing white students for a long time, right? Reparations anyone?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

      • Viking1865

        Woodrow Wilson re-segregated the federal workforce, which had been integrated for decades at the time. I think you could honestly argue that’s one of the worst race relations actions in American history. Black and white federal workers had been sharing offices, cafeterias, and bathrooms for decades without the whole thing falling apart.

        FDR threw American citizens in concentration camps based on their ethnicity.

        Neither of them will have their statues torn down. Because this isn’t about history, it’s about politics.

      • kbolino

        Neither of them will have their statues torn down.

        Wilson has already had at least one statue of his torn down, at the University of Texas, back in the last round of iconoclasm in 2015. Monmouth just announced they’re stripping Wilson’s name from one of their buildings.

        The progressive old guard is dead or dying off and the young guard do not carry the banner of Wilsonian internationalism anymore.

      • Idle Hands

        It’s not just about politics it’s about power and rubbing the rubes faces in it and openly mocking them. These people are cultural trogolodytes it’s not enough to win and have literally taco bell and pepsi sponsoring them they must purge their enemies hero’s and sufficiently show they are better than them by marching in the street while they can’t go to work or open up their business’s. These people are disgusting and creating a frightening boogieman they are going to push us to violence in fact they want the violence because they know they control the institutions.

    • Ownbestenemy

      If we had an honest press, it would be questioned and asked to those who want to tear down statutes why they are sparing all the major schools. But we don’t and it is written as it is just trolling and “right-wing” that is pushing it.

      • leon

        There is some level of absurdity where, when a Minneapolis cop kills someone, the response is to remove statues of the confederacy.

      • Drake

        Actual journalists would be investigating the connection. Who is coordinating this and why?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Amazing how uncurious they have become

      • The Other Kevin

        This was just an opportunity for the left to take over a crisis and ride in on their hobby horses. Hopefully people are starting to see through this. It started out with everyone on the same page, wanting to do something about police brutality, and now it’s all about all the commie causes.

      • Ownbestenemy

        People may be seeing through it, but they have framed and continually re-framing it under racist terms and the normies just don’t want to engage in it if no matter what, you are a racist unless you give us money or lick our boots.

      • Rhywun

        There is some level of absurdity where, when a Minneapolis cop kills someone, the response is to remove statues of the confederacy.

        Right?

        /Aunt Jemima

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        Don’t worry. The Ivy League’s turn will come. And soon, by the looks of things. They will learn that the Marxism they have been pushing for decades is coming into its own.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        They don’t call them useful idiots for nothing.

      • The Other Kevin

        I wouldn’t shed a single tear if this happens. In fact it will dovetail nicely with the fall of the big university model.

      • straffinrun

        *Looks at avatar*. Really? Not even one?

      • The Other Kevin

        Only for littering.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        They do richly deserve it.

      • leon

        What are you talking about? In the glorious Marxist Ascension, the intellectuals always reign supreme as the curators of our scientific organizational processes.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        James McGill was attacked here.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Those schools are marked for death and they don’t even know it.

    • creech

      When will Amherst change its name?

    • Certified Public Asshat

      It looks like it was trending over the weekend but has fizzled out. This would seem like a no-brainer if everyone was truly looking to scrub the past, but when I do my Twitter trolling I don’t see any big name liberals jumping on the train.

      • straffinrun

        Part of me wants to see what insane replacement names they’d come up with for those schools.

      • leon

        Also, that video is a hilarious reminder that everything we see today was how things were at the universities 4-5 years ago.

      • straffinrun

        Yep. What happened at Evergreen didn’t stay at Evergreen.

      • Chipwooder

        Trotsky U

      • straffinrun

        Panty raids with AKs.

    • Raven Nation

      “I’m sure those schools were only allowing white students for a long time, right?”

      Hell, it wasn’t that long ago that the Ivies wouldn’t hire Jews as faculty.

  31. egould310

    Here you go! A solid, upbeat start to the week. Hope you enjoy it.

    Enjoyed it. So many many Les Pauls. And a Rickenbacker bass. I want all of them. That reminds me, I should see if there are any deals on Reverb.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      No one needs 23 Les Pauls!
      You need MOAR!

      • pan fried wylie

        There’s got to be atleast 30 finishes I like.

  32. straffinrun

    I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death to get you booted from the internet.

  33. Nephilium

    Something that has started to entertain me is the new three questions that need to be asked when you go to a workout place here in Ohio (Have Covid? Been in contact with anyone who had it? Have symptoms?). It’s reminding me of the questions the airlines used to ask pre-9/11. The local I go to has just started asking, “You good with your three questions?” when you walk in.

    • Drake
      • straffinrun

        The amount of history they know would fit on the spray paint bottle.

      • pan fried wylie

        In larger print than the warnings use.

      • Rhywun

        Meanwhile the country’s soccer players are running around with “Black Lives Matter” on their jerseys in place of their names. “Absolutely shocking”, indeed.

      • leon

        The english had a civil war too? Is that when the abolished slavery in england?

    • leon

      Thing is… I don’t even get the appeal of just vandalizing a statue. For what purpose?

      • Suthenboy

        We must reach year zero. Now get your ass in there and decolonize your bookshelf.

      • Rhywun

        Because it’s fun. That’s literally what I am seeing in all this.

      • Sean

        Misguided anger over the shutdowns?

        Malicious assholes?

        *shrug*

    • Drake

      Wow – They got John Brown?

      • leon

        I thought he was moldering in the grave.

        Anyway, maybe it was white supremacists who did it.

  34. wdalasio

    “Prestigious” is the operative word here. NOBODY thinks the trades are prestigious.

    I think the key element here is, whether it’s right or not (it’s not), college has become a gatekeeper for senior managerial careers. I’ll be the first to concede that it shouldn’t be. I suspect a lot of tradesmen are probably more trainable for senior leadership roles than what colleges are pumping out. But, until that changes, colleges aren’t going to lose their status.

    • Pine_Tree

      It’s that, PLUS careers with “benefits”.

      The whole screwed-up situation of medical insurance being tied to employment. WW2 price controls strike again – forever apparently.

    • Pine_Tree

      And imho some of the degree requirements partially exist to launder a company’s decision-making process wrt Griggs v. Duke Power.

      • leon

        When i read about that decision i saw this:

        Although private employers with 15 or more employees are subject to Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, it was held in Washington v. Davis (1976) that the disparate impact doctrine does not apply to the equal protection requirement of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. Thus, lawsuits against public employers may be barred by sovereign immunity.

        A policy so good that the Government said it should be exempt from it.

  35. PieInTheSky

    Bring back Iconoclasm . Make damnatio memoriae great again. Free Ardbeg Uigeadail for everyone!

    this is my platform.

    • AlexinCT

      Expected this to come after I saw he had called that out. Had that discussion with my girlfriend yesterday and she was firmly in denial Biden had advanced signs of senility that now we’re being hidden by the “Get rid of Orange Man at any cost” crowd. Eventually she told me this was good cause then the VP would take over. She was not happy when I told her I found it far more frightening people like her were so blind to the truth and OK with a person picked because she checked the right boxes on some identity politics/victim hood checklist, just because they resented Hillary losing an election that they thought they had rigged in her favor. Needless to say, I got no sweet love last night despite being back in Minnesoda with her to protract her from the woke shit going down in Minneapolis.

      • Viking1865

        If Biden is actually the nominee, they will have to openly admit that a vote for Biden is a vote for rule by bureaucrats. The overwhelming refrain will be “professional government by nonpartisan experts and dedicated civil servants.”

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      There’s also a big stink about him and Joey Diaz joking on one of his 10 year old shows about demanding servicing from female comedians before letting them take the stage. It’s not about unpersoning him, that’s obviously not happening, it’s about ruining his 100 mil Spotify deal. The left has always hated the guy though, not closed minded enough.

      • leon

        It’s not about unpersoning him, that’s obviously not happening, it’s about ruining his 100 mil Spotify deal.

        Yadda Yadda, i don’t have the contract, but if i were getting a contract for any serious amounts of deals, i would want included a charge for early termination of the contract.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        When you’re talking a hundred million lord knows what kind of Byzantine legalize is in there.

    • Idle Hands

      it’s not enough that he genuflects at the alter of progressivism and claims he’s a lefty anyone who doesn’t sufficiently genuflect or hold all the proper perspectives is no longer fit to be in their society.

      • Idle Hands

        *and

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        If you aren’t all the way with us you’re all the way against us.

  36. grrizzly

    French defy lockdown with Festival of Music

    Thousands of people gathered across France on Sunday to celebrate an annual music festival, defying coronavirus lockdown restrictions.

    Revellers ignored social distancing rules and danced in the streets for the Fête de la Musique, known as Music Day in English.

    But images posted online showed thousands thronging roads in cities across the country – including in the Canal Saint Martin and Marais districts in Paris – ignoring distancing rules and largely partying without face masks. Current rules prohibit public gatherings of more than 10 people.

    • leon

      Don’t they know that they are killing grandma?!

    • mrfamous

      Sacre bleu!

    • creech

      How can authorities enforce the “10 gathering rule” for events such as these? Such rules are only effective when they can, say, arrest the owner of the restaurant or arrest the owner of the stadium. The rest is mindless handwaving at those thumbing their noses at the rules.

  37. Suthenboy

    “Neither of them will have their statues torn down. Because this isn’t about history, it’s about politics.”

    I am laying in bed last night thinking about the unbelievable shit that is going on and why communism/socialism always looks the same. I knew this already but hadn’t come up with just the right words to describe it and then it just popped in my head.

    Communism/socialism isn’t an ideology or a system, it is a tactic for gaining total power. That is all it is, a tactic. They sell it as an ideology and the useful idiots gobble it up and people like us argue with them in that sense, but it isn’t an ideology. That is why they always seem to win, they control the narrative.

    • Rhywun

      Hence the CCP. People say they’re not “communist” any more. Oh, really? Then why don’t they change their name?

  38. leon

    Maybe it’s because i know that some of my ancestors did terrible things, and i know that some had terrible things done to them, but i find it interesting how everyone is quick to blame current day political adversaries for atrocities of the past.

    • leon

      At the same time i do find the themes of history that repeat to be amusing. I remember when i first read about the iconoclast vs iconophiles in the byzantine empire, and thought it was an oddity. Now i can see it. Through in that you were talking about peoples religious faith…

      • Ownbestenemy

        Read about any invading people, Norse, French, Saxons, Germanic, Roman, Byzantine, et al, and they have all done one thing and that is destroy the culture of what you are trying to overtake. The United States’ culture is fairly unique in that it is probably one of the most elasticity. That requires a long game and it has been a long game in efforts to destroy the culture completely.

        It seems, from viewing from afar, this is the final push to completely destroy the elasticity in our varied cultures found throughout the States.

      • creech

        Didn’t the Vikings get converted to Christianity? Not all invading peoples destroy the culture they encounter.

      • Idle Hands

        Well what you are seeing is an evangelical revival of sorts.

  39. Rebel Scum

    I’m sure anyone intent on harming others will abide by this. I mean, it’s not like the overwhelming majority of mass-shootings occur in “gun-free zones” or anything.

    Technically, the half-dozen gun control laws signed by Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam don’t take effect until July 1st, but city council members in Alexandria, Virginia aren’t waiting for them to kick in before passing some local restrictions of their own. Empowered by a new law that allows cities to ban guns in government buildings and public spaces, politicians in the D.C. suburb unanimously approved those restrictions during a Saturday session that featured speakers both pro and con weighing in.

    The new ordinance in Alexandria wouldn’t have stopped the armed protester from his lone protest outside of Del. Levine’s home, but it will make it illegal to carry a firearm in any city park. I sincerely doubt that such a ban will prevent any criminal acts of violence like the shooting of Republican congressman, as happened back in 2017. Instead, it will be legal gun owners who will either be disarmed or risk jail time if they choose to violate the law and carry for self-defense in parks, City Hall, libraries, or community centers.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Maybe the Supreme Court can take up the case considering this is a clear 2nd Amendment violation, then again maybe not.

      • leon

        Seeing as the completely rejected to look at any 2A case last week, they are clearly not in a mood to make the 2A stronger than it is right now.

        I’m still pissed that they decided to make moot the NYC case. I get why/processes and procedures. It just seems that the need for strict adherence to process always comes down on one side. If it’s a leftist idol, then all stops are pulled to save it.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I like to think they’re biding their time because they know Roberts is unreliable and they want to rule on those cases when they have a more ironclad majority. Or maybe it’s just that they don’t give a shit.

      • leon

        True, but the Dems ensured that even when roberts leaves there will be a squish still on the Supreme Court, in the form of Kavanaugh.

        If i thought that politicians were capable of such fore thought i’d say it was fine maneuvering. They got to grandstand and make the guy look awful, and solidify the GOP support behind a truly terrible candidate, who would be Roberts Jr.

      • Viking1865

        Conservative judges are conservative. They don’t want to overturn precedent. But we’re 80+ years past the New Deal, so there’s decades of terrible precedent.

        If you wanted to actually enforce the written Constitution, you’d have to dismantle the New Deal, the Great Society, the Drug War, the War on Terror.

        They won’t do that.

      • Viking1865

        The IJ podcast had a great quote about “judges protecting the things judges do and like”

        Free speech? Publishing? Donations to political causes? Anything that squares with elite opinions? Protected by the judges.

        Gun ownership? Owning a small business? Having icky social views? Not being hassled by the cops for bullshit? You’re shit out of luck.

        It really is all about social class now. Things the elites approve of are The Law Of The Land, whether theres textual support for it or not. Things that they don’t approve of can be regulated, banned, circumscribed over and over and over again.

      • leon

        Pretty much that. IJ’s podcast is fantastic, and really helped me understand the state of the legal system right now, and that quote is spot on. Of course Gun Ownership can be regulated, if people need protection they can just get a private security firm or move to a rich neighborhod. Or if they really need it, get some of the government paid protection. /judges.

      • R C Dean

        I read speculation that the “pro 2A” Justices don’t want to take any cases because they are afried Roberts will “evolve” on gun rights.

      • Mojeaux

        I have poo-poohed the idea that somebody has something serious on Roberts that makes him “evolve”. Crackpots, right?

        Not so sure anymore.

      • Fatty Bolger

        It seems to have coincided with his switching his vote to uphold the ACA, which should not be a surprise. That was seen as so critical to the leftist cause that doing major opposition research on sitting SC judges would be well worth the risk. It sure looks like something was found on Roberts, because he’s been a reliable swing vote ever since.

        Luckily Heller came before that. But it makes you wonder what would have happened if it had been after the ACA ruling.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That makes some sense. Roberts is turning into the second coming of Souter.

      • leon

        Well Gun rights are political, and the court cant be perceived as political, so really Roberts will have to side with the people who don’t want to push the extremist position that people have rights established in the bill of rights.

      • R C Dean

        Seems consistent with his position that the President can’t enforce the immigration laws as written.

      • Drake

        Yep – If Trump is still President when Ginsberg is finally declared dead, they will start taking 2A cases again.

  40. straffinrun

    Well, this is going around Twitter. Type in any three digit number followed by “new cases” and do a google search. Wild.

    • Suthenboy

      I don’t get it. I googled 123 new cases and got stories about new covid cases.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Keep randomly typing in and that is all you will get, to the exact random number you put in, for covid cases

      • straffinrun

        ^This. Be scared.

      • Drake

        I did 476 – apparently a lot of places have 476 new cases of the covid.

      • Rhywun

        I did 458 on DDG and got results from 6 or 7 different states – and some of those were “total deaths” or “total cases”.

        Meh, not surprising. Multiply the number of localities in the US by the number of plague days.

      • straffinrun

        Not surprising, but it shows the amount of ink spilled on the not so Spanish flu.

    • Ownbestenemy

      But Google is good and the journoclass would never want to be able to manipulate searches to reflect complete bullshit! Amazing and wild indeed.

    • Rebel Scum

      “1020 new cases”

      First whole page nothing by Commie-cough articles.

    • leon

      i picked 222, and Duck-Duck go had an article in Arizona, but the next one was about buying ammo casings.

      • Drake

        I had (briefly) switch from Duck-Duck to Google.

    • Suthenboy

      I have a question: Does anyone personally know anyone who has died from the commie cooties?

      • PieInTheSky

        i am sure the dead have acquaintances, so someone must.

      • leon

        ^^^ He is an expert on the dead.

      • UnCivilServant

        Nope. Everyone I know who tested positive recovered without issue.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I know a few friends of friends who have contracted it, but nobody who has died from it. Granted, I don’t know that many people in the highest danger age group.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        One person in the neighborhood.

        He was already pulling around an oxygen bottle cart when he got sick.

        My aunt has it now. She’s been going thru chemo so it’s not a good situation. Some dumbass in the office had a husband who tested positive but she kept coming into work. Now half the office has it.

      • Ownbestenemy

        That’s my dad. Just started his treatment and contracted it at the VA hospital.

      • Don Escaped any Landslide

        ugh

      • Suthenboy

        ok

      • grrizzly

        Not dead but sick with COVID. A friend of my mom (mid 60s) got it and is staying in hospital with pneumonia. She got it from her aunt who was hospitalized because of another disease and got it there.

      • Gdragon

        I don’t know if I mentioned it here but this dude
        was actually my neighbour for over a decade.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Nope, not even second hand.

      • Hyperion

        I don’t even know one person that has had a confirmed case of it. So plenty of people way have had it, I may have had it, it’s just that no one I know has had any symptoms bad enough to go seek medical attention for it. What that tells me is that the entire thing is pure bullshit. I guess we keep having these pandemics and lock downs until we all learn that bad orange man is bad and start voting for commies.

      • EvilSheldon

        I don’t personally know anyone who’s died, but I do know someone who lost a family member to (probably) C19.

        I do know two people who tested positive and have completely recovered.

  41. Don Escaped any Landslide

    no

    I have one friend whose brother in his thirties had as severe a case as you can have and still not need admitting

    a similar question/notion I have: I’m shocked that only 1% of the population is represented in the known cases; that’s either great news or excellent news depending on your inference

    • Hyperion

      Until we all learn to love global socialism, there is no good news. Now go self-quarantine until you learn!

  42. Tom Teriffic

    Like many here, I’ve just gotten weary of being clobbered by the socialist barrage. Contrary to the common perception, nobody “wins” on social media. So I’m in the process of abandoning it other than for (musical) promotional purposes. Gender Traitor and i seem to be trending into the “hunker down, make sure we have plenty of essential stuff and get ready for whatever” kind of mode.

    Speaking of the current EOTWAWKI, Big Orange Littlehands seems to be sitting on the cheap, easily accessible, safe cure for the scourge, while the big-bucks Dr. Falsie invested firms are making “progress” on “Promising” treatments, vaccines, etc. I think he’s going to have to tip his hand soon: is he for big bidnezz/pharma at the expense of us proles or is he the extraordinary well-to-do populist he claims to be? A lot of the current bullshit could be ended tout-de-suite with that cheap, easy cure/preventative and make the shutdowns moot. He has to know that. So????