Pie’s malt medley review part 1

by | Jun 30, 2020 | Food & Drink, Reviews | 250 comments

After my first whiskey review had a bit of focus of the good old island of Islay, this one is more focused on whatever Pie drank recently. Recently, depending on when I decide to submit this, so we are talking at least some months. And too late did I realize the pictures are blurry. But you can still sort of see the color of the malt. Incidentally, they be highland malts, it would appear. This is part 1 of Pie’s random whiskey reviews. This, it should go without saying, does not mean there will be a part 2. None is in the works as we speak. The numbering is just in case. There are malts involved, some with some peat and some of no peat, and they are presented as sort of head-to-head, one vs one.

The distilleries featured are highland: Deanston, Glenallachie (Speyside), Knockdhu (Speyside) and Tobermory (Isle of Mull).

Deanston 12 YO – 180 Lei

Smell: fresh, light but sufficiently complex, grain, something citrusy, alcohol is there but not unpleasant.

Taste: soft, nutty, some oak, slightly bitter notes, slightly sweet notes. Vanilla. Multilayered.

Aftertaste: warm, fresh, strong at first, drops of in intensity quite quickly but lingers longish. Remains warm on the tongue but not harsh.

Overall very good for the price and the quality and also quite friendly with unexperienced drinkers. Water is not needed.

GlenAllachie 12 YO – Pedro Ximénez wood finish (48%, OB 2019) – 260 Lei

Nose: complex and layered, sweet and candied, oak present, vanilla and some spice something fruity – maybe berry, raisin, sherry.
Taste: oak and spice, raisin, dark chocolate, some sherry.
Finish: quite warm and not too intense, shorter than expected.
Water does not bring a lot extra and makes it more subdues. This is a non-water whiskey.

Deanston vs Glenallachie is about what one is looking for. The Deanston is fresher, lighter in taste. The Glenallachie has a more intense, heavier character. Most drinkers, I would think, would prefer the Deanston. For the 50% price difference, I do as well. The Glenalachie standard 12 is cheaper and may be just as good which would change things. The extra price is worth it if you really like intense sherry finished malts.

 

Ancnoc Rudhan NAS – 190 Lei (1 Liter bottle)

Nose: light, crisp, smoke/peat, sweet, light fruit maybe apple, grain. Young.
Taste: Slight smoke and peat, some spice, honey, the alcohol; is somewhat present but not that aggressive.
Finish – medium with smoke and some peat some spice, warmth lingers.
A few drops of water don’t do much for the smell, but it mellows an rounds  the taste some. Not much though, little to none.

Ledaig 10 YO – 193 Lei
Nose: light smoke or peat, fairly complex, dried fruit slightly nutty maybe, sea salt.

Taste: Spice and smoke, oak, something vaguely citrusy, mineral.

Finish: long, slightly warming, smoke.

Ancnoc vs Ledaig: Rudhan is rougher and the age shows. Ledaig is more complex, more layered, less rough and it wins this one, as the price is practically the same, although you get an extra 300 ml with the Rudhan.

 

Bonus malt 1:  Benromach 10YO – 200 Lei

Nose: Sweet fruit, maybe apple or pear, herbal, pepper. Needs time in the glass. A bit of smoke.

Taste: sweet and sour, mineral, some spice and a bit rough for only 43% alcohol.

Finish: Very warming, long lasting, pleasant bitterness, spice and smoke.

For the price, would recommend.

Bonus Wemyss Malts Chimney Peat, NAS, blended – 150 Lei

This is a blended malt that, despite what a chimney would suggest, is not a peat or smoke bomb, but a surprisingly balanced malt.

Smell: smoke, honey sweet, something bisquity

Taste: Slight smoke, slight peat, sweet sour, some citrus

Aftertaste: pleasantly bitter aftertaste, with some lingering peat, fairly warming in the upper throat, alcohol is present.

The peat is mild and pleasant, for something called peat chimney. For the price, it is fairly complex and balanced, it is a good deal at 150 Lei.

Overall I would say the Ancnoc comes in last, given the balance of price and quality. The GlenAllachie is tougher to judge, but I would not shell out the extra 70 lei for the PX finish in the future. The Deanston was a very nice surprise. The other two were good as well.

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PieInTheSky

Mind your own business you nosy buggers

250 Comments

  1. AlexinCT

    Malt liquor is malt…

    Pass me the 40 ounces brah.

      • Trolleric the Goth

        that’s a fortified wine, not a malt liquor

      • UnCivilServant

        Like the liver knows the difference.

  2. Idle Hands

    I can’t honestly believe I ever ever took this person seriously.

    https://twitter.com/asymmetricinfo/status/1277630182652870657
    It is good policy, and also means it might be years before any of us gets to eat a sit-down meal inside a restaurant.

    That this society is wealthy enough to allow for someone this hysterical to live comfortably within it is simply mind boggling. Rage does not adequately describe the contempt I have and the level of selfishness these fucking people are exhibiting thinking they have the moral high ground. Fuck them.

    • Idle Hands

      Also not to mention it’s wrong as I’ve done this multiple times.

    • Animal

      I ate several sit-down meals in restaurants last week.

    • Urthona

      There is actually a lot of science linking super spreader events (mass gatherings) and covid spikes. Furthermore, the average age of these new cases are trending very young and very obviously in urban areas.

      The fact that no one will acknowledge the link between these mass “protests” and outbreaks is pathetic.

      • UnCivilServant

        The spikes are probably the only good thing to come from these protests. Edges closer to herd immunity (since the vast vast majority of these yunguns will recover with no lasting effect)

      • UnCivilServant

        But these Poor people only have a 99.8% chance of survivial!

      • leon

        The fact that no one will acknowledge the link between these mass “protests” and outbreaks is pathetic.

        THAT’S BECAUSE THERE IS NO LINK! A Super Science Paper already destroyed that argument.

      • robc

        What outbreak? Deaths are down.

        Either the virus is less deadly, a healthier subsegment is getting the virus, or we are better at testing.

    • Toxteth O’Grady

      Why on earth would one use a masked selfie for an avatar? It look stupid.

      • UnCivilServant

        I don’t care, I’m not changing my avatar.

      • Not Adahn

        How did the masked mask project turn out?

      • UnCivilServant

        The leather is too glossy, I’m trying to come up with an easy way to tone it down.

      • AlexinCT

        Gimp ball.

      • Fatty Bolger

        In her case, the mask is an improvement.

    • grrizzly

      There’s a reply I agree with:

      I struggle not to be personal and vicious on this site, but there is something utterly contemptible about the ease with which some people are prepared to turn this country into a prison camp out of sheer fear. Not to decline to run the risk themselves- to point a gun at others.

      • Idle Hands

        yeah that was pretty good.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      You can do a lot with heat lamps. Not in Minneapolis or Chicago, I grant.— Megan McArdle (@asymmetricinfo) June 29, 2020

      oof, she even thinks outdoor dining with heat lamps is doable.

      • Idle Hands

        It’s beyond deranged shut in territory. She’s advocating everyone be locked in our homes for months or years.

      • Fatty Bolger

        She’s an idiot.

    • R C Dean

      The casual disregard for the livelihoods of millions is chilling.

      The naive belief that there will be a First Time Ever coronavirus vaccine is just “man is a rationalizing animal” on display. Nobody who says “lock it down until there is a vaccine” should be taken at all seriously.

      It is truly frightening what has happened in this country in barely 4 months.

      • Idle Hands

        We would be dirt farming in 6 months living the way she describes.

      • Viking1865

        Rational, apolitical, just the facts experts using science tell us so many things, none of which are actually true.

        Things like “transwomen are women” and “we can run the economy on wind turbines” and “socialized medicine is amazing.”

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Yet one of these times, the Top. Men. technocrats will stumble on the truth, and we’ll have our commie utopia.

    • Brochettaward

      The beatings will continue until you deplorables vote out Trump.

    • EvilSheldon

      Performative self-sacrifice is creepy as fuck.

    • Viking1865

      Idiot Prog moment of the day.

      Coworker, 30 something, was concerned she might have caught the Corona from an event she attended over the weekend. I told her “you’re young and healthy, the odds are overwhelmingly in your favor.” Her reply “Yeah but lots of people our age are getting it now.” So I said “Right, but that doesn’t change the death rate for young and healthy people.” She says “But lots of people have it.” As though the virus only kills you once a certain number of people get it.

      College degree, naturally. Considers herself to be so much more enlightened than literally anyone to the right of Barack Obama.

      • Idle Hands

        Our elite class’s lack of logical thinking/reasoning is only outstripped by the hubris and self-righteousness of their cause.

      • invisible finger

        You might want to tell this person that if they were given a virus test a day after receiving a hypothetical coronoavirus vaccination, they would test positive for cornoavirus.

        This person obviously believes:
        Natural herd immunity = bad
        Government-induced herd immunity = good

      • Idle Hands

        It’s pointless talking to the Branch Covidians. They are hysterical. The only thing that will calm them is time.

      • invisible finger

        25 grams of Norco ought to calm them.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        “lots of people have spleens, too. Are you panicking about your spleen rupturing right now?”

      • leon

        You don’t get it. if chances of dying are One in 10,000 the more people who get it the more 10,000’s there are, the more likely i am to be the one in 10,000. It’s just statistics. Geeze you guys are a bunch of science hating troglodytes.

      • UnCivilServant

        the more 10,000’s there are, the more likely i am to be the one in 10,000

        I, on the other hand, can do math.

      • leon

        It’s not math, it’s statistics. Geeze read a book.

      • Ted S.

        I was impressed to hear some of my co-workers talk about the contract tracing apps and say they knew it was just an excuse for the government to track you.

  3. Bobarian LMD

    I like my malt with strawberries and ice-cream.

    That smoke/peat thing makes me think of young bourbon strained through a used ashtray.

    • kinnath

      I’m not sure ice cream will work with this.

      • l0b0t

        Wow! I want that in my tummy.

      • l0b0t

        LOL… I watched that yesterday and am already planning on making a batch when cherries go on sale.

  4. Drake

    I’m amazed Sargon hasn’t been deplatformed yet.

    • leon

      Give it a few more de-platforming cycles

    • Idle Hands

      Wait two weeks.

    • Drake

      Too corrupt even for NJ.

  5. EvilSheldon

    I bet all of these would be good with a splash of Amaretto and a big ice cube.

  6. Sean

    Damn, they be busy.

    The NYPD on Sunday released this info detailing the nine-day stretch of shootings.
    Friday, 6/19 – 8 shooting incidents with 9 victims.
    Saturday, 6/20 -18 shooting incidents with 24 victims.
    Sunday, 6/21 – 2 shooting incidents with 5 victims.
    Monday, 6/22 – 11 shooting incidents with 17 victims.
    Tuesday, 6/23 – 10 shooting incidents with 10 victims.
    Wednesday, 6/24 – 3 shooting incidents with 5 victims.
    Thursday, 6/25 – 5 shooting incidents with 8 victims.
    Friday, 06/26 – 9 incidents with 10 victims.
    Saturday, 06/27 – 17 incidents with 24 victims.

    The NYPD said there have been 503 shooting incidents with 605 victims this year as of Saturday.

    • Fourscore

      “It’s a jungle out there”

  7. Gustave Lytton

    SXM has retitled the Dixie Chicks’ previously released material as “The Chicks”. Now do Cat Stevens, Jefferson Airplane, and one version of John Cougar Mellencamp.

    • leon

      Paul Revere and the Raiders seems sketchy to me. Paul Revere was a founding father, and they all owned slaves. Also Lynardd Skynard has a song about “Sweet Home Alabama”, and for a large chunk of history Alabama was not a sweet home for many of the people living there. Doesn’t seem inclusive.

      • kinnath

        Don’t be fucking with Skynyrd.

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^THIS^^^

      • Gustave Lytton

        The Night They Ran Old Dixie Down will never get airplay again.

      • Tom Teriffic

        Ergo I’m going to perform it every damn chance I get.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Jefferson Airplane so we have an easy way to filter out the crappy stuff from Jefferson Starship and, shudder, Starship.

      • kinnath

        I am a huge fan of “Miracles”. So there.

      • Not Adahn
      • kinnath

        fucking magnets; how do they work?

      • Grummun

        Juggarat? Rattalo?

      • Not Adahn

        Gathering of the Juggalos > CHAZ

        Honestly, I’ve never interacted with any Juggalos afaik. But they’ve never tried to fuck with me, so I like them better than any elected official. Ditto furries.

      • Ted S.

        It would be a miracle if that link worked.

      • Tom Teriffic

        Me too, but that was original Airplane-er Marty Balin singing it. And that’s only one out of dozens.

    • Grummun

      John Cougar Mellencamp

      Or, as a local AOR DJ called him, “John Hoosier Melonhead.”

  8. leon

    Carrying over from dead thread to continue the discussion, and get other input:

    R C Dean on June 30, 2020 at 11:18 am

    For the life of me, I don’t know how its Constitutional that churches get tax exemption solely because they are churches.

    l

    eon
    leon on June 30, 2020 at 11:25 am

    Mind you i think everyone should be tax exempt, but the argument being that Taxing being a method of destruction -> Taxing someones beliefs seems like an infringement on their rights to free conscience.

    R C Dean
    R C Dean on June 30, 2020 at 12:02 pm

    You’re not taxing their beliefs. You are taxing an organization, with revenue, expenses, etc. Exempting the organization is granting it a privilege because it is a religious organization, which seems contrary to the Establishment Clause.

    First, i don’t think giving a “privilege”, particularly one that says “you get to keep your money”, does not constitute the establishment of a State Church, as an aside If anything it shows that other peoples rights are being deprived (via taxation). Second, you are taxing someones beliefs. Churches are intertwined in the beliefs of their members. You cannot separate a Catholic or a Mormon from their church and then say that they are still free to worship as they believe, since that organization is a key part of their beliefs.

    • robc

      If my plan for an SLT was ever implemented, I wouldn’t exclude churches. All land would be taxed. Which includes churches and GOVERNMENTS. The Federal government would have to write Wyoming a check for Yellowstone.

      And vice versa for state land. The state would write a check to the Feds.

      • leon

        You need to finish your article so i can understand our one difference.

    • R C Dean

      We’re probably talking past each other here.

      Exemption from taxation is definitely a privilege, special treatment, a benefit granted to someone that is not generally available. It doesn’t matter what you think of the generally applicable rule, whether you think its good or bad, an exemption from it is an exemption from it.

      Giving privileges to churches is establishment of religion, in my book, unless we read the Establishment Clause narrowly to only prohibit the establishment of a state church. We rergularly bitch about “targeted tax benefits” here as exercises in crony capitalism/corruption; I don’t see why tax exemption for churches qua churches would be any different than a tax exemption for, say, electric car makers.

      Taxes targeted at churches would violate the Free Exercise Clause, and would raise the concern that taxes are being used to penalize religious belief. I don’t think generally applicable taxes raise that concern.

      • robc

        Nonprofits are also exempt from paying sales tax and property tax. While the income of a nonprofit organization may not be subject to federal taxes, nonprofit organizations do pay employee taxes (Social Security and Medicare) just like any for-profit company. — Investopedia

        Taxing churches would be treating them differently than other non profits.

      • UnCivilServant

        There’s no reason to make non-profits tax exempt. It lets the taxman decide which charities are charitable enough to count, etc.

      • Gustave Lytton

        There’s a couple of such non profits that are structured so that the person running it get a very comfortable position (and essentially inheritable) if not quite retaining ownership or getting fabulously wealthy. Annuities can beat lump sums in many circumstances.

      • R C Dean

        Taxing churches would be treating them differently than other non profits.

        Nonprofit is not a synonym for tax exempt.

        Non-profit status may make an organization eligible for certain benefits, such as state sales, property, and income tax exemptions; however, this corporate status does not automatically grant exemption from federal income tax.

        I find it odd that there is a specific prohibition in the Constitution on “establishing religion”, which is generally read to mean religion is subject to laws of general applicability, yet there is an exemption for religious organizations from taxation. It is not possible to give exemptions to religious organizations without making some determination of what religions will be recognized by the state, which strikes me as the essence of establishment of religion.

      • leon

        It is not possible to give exemptions to religious organizations without making some determination of what religions will be recognized by the state, which strikes me as the essence of establishment of religion.

        That’s fair. If Churches are going to be tax exempt, anyone saying they are a church should get a tax exemption.

      • R C Dean

        “I hereby found the Church of Dean, which worships its prophet R C, blessed by His name, who we are blessed to have still among us.”

        It is interesting that churches are exempt from taxation, but not pastors/priests. etc. Seems like the justification for exempting organizations would apply equally to exempting individuals.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        “I hereby found the Church of Dean, which worships its prophet R C, blessed by His name, who we are blessed to have still among us.”

        You sound like my father.

      • robc

        I hereby found the Church of Dean

        Hubbard did it.

      • robc

        Non profits are exempt from taxation (the ones that are tax exempt) but their employees arent.

        If you think of a church as a tax exempt non-profit, it makes sense.

        Why some are included and the Church of Dean isnt? Same reason as some non-profits arent included. It is a big problem with income taxation especially.

        What is a legitimate deduction? Even if you got rid of deduction, what is a legitimate business expense? If you have to decide too many of these cases, it probably means you entire system of taxation is crap. One more argument in favor of the SLT with no one exempt.

        And yes, SLT has a valuation issue. But that is much smaller than the tomes of books creating expense and deduction rules.

      • Pope Jimbo

        You are joking, but back in the ’90s this was exactly what made me start joking about starting a church and being its pope.

        I’ve joked around here about my “rules”:

        * 52 saints so followers get a 3 day weekend all year long
        * Altar girls instead of altar boys so when the inevitable sex scandal breaks out, main stream people are a bit more forgiving
        * Ability to petition the Pope for personal rules that need to be respected by employers
        * Only hard and fast rule is you MUST tithe (on the gross).

      • leon

        We’re probably talking past each other here.

        Probably, i also do have a narrower view of what an establishment of religion would be. I don’t think granting tax for status to charities necessarily establishes those charities as government charities. Likewise with churches.

        We rergularly bitch about “targeted tax benefits” here as exercises in crony capitalism/corruption;

        I’ll note that I’m typically careful to attack subsidies rather than just tax exemptions. But i’m not going to say i’m speaking for everyone because i know there is a divide on the issue.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I’m split on the issue. Subsidies are different than tax exemptions, but they’re both abused for social engineering purposes.

        The single most frustrating judicial line of “reasoning” that exists today is that the power of the purse somehow extends beyond the constitutional bounds of government.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I don’t see why tax exemption for churches qua churches would be any different than a tax exemption for, say, electric car makers.

        Taxes inhibit the taxed activity and have the power to virtually destroy it if desired (see NFA tax of $200 on machine guns in the 1930s). Instead of looking at why aren’t churches taxed, we should be expanding what activities are off-limits to taxes. It’s blatantly unconstitutional that firearms and ammo are taxed. Protection on religion may not be as strongly enumerated as the right to bear arms, but it’s still a different universe than constitutional protection on electric vehicles.

        (((I))) have no love for churches, but I can see the taxing of religion leading to the banishment of it and anything else that competes with the State for control and money. The only reason homeschooling still exists in the United States is due to an extension of the privilege granted to churches.

      • R C Dean

        The Constitution actually lays out a path for religion that is bounded on two sides – the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause. I think the path can be described as “no special treatment, whether good or bad”.

        Your idea of not taxing the exercise of Constitutional rights is interesting. I guess “the press” would be tax exempt, also the arms industry (guns, knives, etc.), as well as religion. Would personal income from those activities be exempt as well?

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Would personal income from those activities be exempt as well?

        Hmm. Dems are talking about putting a tax on individual bullets so high that it would effectively negate the 2nd A. Not a pipe dream either since they did something similar with the NFA. If it can be agreed that a $10,000/bullet tax would violate the 2nd Amendment, then I would argue that our rights are not a sliding scale vulnerable to a bureaucrat’s (or judge’s) perception of “reasonableness” and any tax on firearms or bullets must be unconstitutional.

        Whether that would extend to the personal income, that’s a tough one. I see major problems with granting certain classes of Americans free from income taxes. We’re seeing a related issue now where (insert percentage) have no skin in the game yet continue to vote to grow the government they don’t fund. On the other hand, you could have the government pass a law that taxes 100% of the income of gunsmiths and firearm companies, effectively ending the creation of new firearms.

        If we had to constrain the argument to one or the other, then I’m not sure. The journey to the solution takes me to the conclusion that income taxes for anyone are unconstitutional and the government should be shrunk until it can be funded through other means.

      • R C Dean

        Dems are talking about putting a tax on individual bullets so high that it would effectively negate the 2nd A.

        Well, I didn’t want to buy more ammo just now, but its back on the short list.

        Also, background checks for ammo purchases are being talked up.

      • Tom Teriffic

        Thanks for the reminder. My infrequently used but most accurate rifle has an ammo stockpile that is threatening to dip below four digits. It’s hard to find that stuff and I’d imagine that it’s even harder nowadays. I’d better start searching.

      • Not Adahn

        I thought newsprint was specifically NOT taxable? Isn’t that where “the power to tax is the power to destroy” came from?

      • R C Dean

        Vague recollection: that was a tax targeted specifically at newsprint, or maybe ink. I’m not aware that it is exempt from generally applicable taxes, but this is all going back over 30 years.

      • R C Dean

        Right on schedule.

        In a landmark 5-4 ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled today that a state court may not strike down a school choice program simply because it permits families to choose religious schooling. In Espinoza v. Montana Department of Revenue, the Court held that barring religious options in school choice programs violates the First Amendment’s protections for religious liberty. School choice programs must be neutral regarding religion and allow families to choose the educational placement that works best for their families.

        Roberts wrote the opinion. The voting was exactly what you think it was (Roberts, Thomas, Gorsuch, Alito, and Kavanaugh for; Kagan, Ginsburg, Breyer, and Sotomayor against).

  9. UnCivilServant

    I think the problem I’ve been having with my car is as simple as a clogged cabin air filter.

    The only problem that might arise is if the torx screw holding the filter cover in place isn’t of a size I’ve got a bit for.

    Hopefully that means I won’t need to pay a mechanic to look at the rest of the AC system.

    • Timeloose

      I just changed mine last week. The amount of leaves, sticks, dirt, and crap on the intake side was surprising after 20K miles. I hope you have what you need to change it. I got a full torx driver set for cheap a while ago. They are available at any harbor freight, box home store, or even at a place like walgreens.

    • Sean

      Make sure you get a replacement with the activated charcoal in it.

      • Timeloose

        Can confirm.

  10. wdalasio

    Exhibit 45,456,789 for why “left libertarianism” is only progressivism in a skin suit visited to us by our friends at the Niskanen Center.

    Does it occur to this guy that sociopaths like him are exactly why they felt the need to arm themselves?

    • Drake

      Weird version of non-aggression there.

    • leon

      It was a good day for liberty when they dropped the “libertarian” name.

      • Chipwooder

        But kept Bill Niskanen’s name, which is an insult to his memory since he’d opposed basically everything they advocate.

    • l0b0t

      Cathy Young FTW, though.

  11. mexican sharpshooter

    The Arizona Republic’s useful idiot chimes in.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/its-time-to-take-off-the-gloves-and-punish-the-jerks-who-ignore-covid-19-restrictions/ar-BB169yyN

    There needs to be some kind of state mandate, even if it means calling the Legislature into special session and passing a law laying out specific restrictions and the punishments for violators.

    We need to blame people living their lives as normally as possible, and continue ignoring the protests the spike in cases that coincidentally began occurring a week later.

    • leon

      He’s saying AZ needs a good Law’n’Order president huh?

    • Viking1865

      “even if it means calling the Legislature into special session and passing a law laying out specific restrictions and the punishments for violators.”

      He’s so fucking serious about this he actually wants the legislators to do their jobs.

      This is how sick our fucking country is. The legislators, the elected representatives of the people, are their last resort.

    • Chipwooder

      I’m willing to bet this guy is also a big “defund the cops” type, which leads me to wonder who precisely he thinks is going to enforce this.

      • UnCivilServant

        The mob and the warlords, duh.

  12. Sean

    I’ve been more on a bourbon kick since the pandemic. I should treat myself to a bottle of scotch.

    • Not Adahn

      In hot weather, I drink less whisk(e)y, more gin.

      • UnCivilServant

        You need your quinine in mosquito season.

        Wait, you mean you drink gin… recreationally?!

      • Not Adahn

        Not straight.

        I made a dangerously-drinkable cocktail of 3:1 gin:lillet with orange bitters earlier. I rarely get hungover, but that did it. I don’t know if it was the herbals in the gin, the crappy Schenectady water that went into making it, or the fact that I somehow drank a pint in an hour.

      • Bobarian LMD

        I recently did a zoom meet-up with a bunch of college friends…

        I had 2/3 full bottle of Willett’s that I started “sipping” on.

        About 45 minutes into the call, I went to pour a little more… And the bottle must have had a hole in it.

        Afterwards, I lied down to nap on the couch and woke up about 14 hours later.

        GOOD Bourbon.

      • Timeloose

        Bluecoat also makes a oaked gin that makes a good old fashioned.

      • Not Adahn

        They serve it at the Adelphi. Fancy.

      • Not Adahn

        And it looks like the store by the indoor range sells the elderflower variant.

      • TARDIS

        Same price as Aviation. Better or not?

      • Sean

        I’ve never had Aviation.

      • Timeloose

        I like Aviation better. I also like Hendricks and Bombay Sapphire better than both.

      • dbleagle

        Had a French 75 last night with St Germain as the sweetener. Very good for a hot day.

    • Viking1865

      They banned “RightwingLGBT” It’s an open political purge to keep the minorities on the plantation.

      • Rhywun

        Intersekshunalizm!

    • robc

      And so you refused to provide it.

      • Not Adahn

        Too slow!

    • R C Dean

      Marginalized or vulnerable groups include, but are not limited to, groups based on their actual and perceived race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, immigration status, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, pregnancy, or disability.

      OK, so “Kill Whitey” is not allowed, right?

      Some examples of hateful activities that would violate the rule:

      Post describing a racial minority as sub-human and inferior to the racial majority.

      Nope. “Kill Whitey” all you want.

      Nice stolen base there, reddit.

      • Chipwooder

        Libertarians are certainly a tiny minority, so we can threaten anyone we want, right?

      • UnCivilServant

        Minority of Immutable Characteristics, Shitlord.

      • leon

        Are you kidding? We run the world, and are thus fair game as an honorary Majority.

      • Not Adahn

        I thought (((they))) ran the world?

      • leon

        Each member group of the Evil Cabal takes turns being the Supreme executive. For purely domestic matters each decision must be ratified by a simple majority, but for maters of foreign policy must meet a 2/3rds majority.

      • UnCivilServant

        Since domestic is the whole world, foreign must be dealings with extraterrestrials.

        Why did you just admit that?

      • robc

        Why did you just admit that?

        I think there is a Mormon joke staring us in the face, but I don’t know it.

      • UnCivilServant

        If he keeps this up, we’ll have to expel him from the Cabal.

      • Mojeaux

        I think there is a Mormon joke staring us in the face, but I don’t know it.

        I was just thinking leon and I may have driven all the rest of the Mormon Glibs off the site.

      • Chipwooder

        Michael Bluth still pops up now and then, but not terribly often.

      • Michael Bluth

        I’m always reading, but by the time I get around to commenting things have moved on.

      • leon

        Bill also posts irregularly, though i don’t recall the last time he posted.

      • Viking1865

        THey also banned r/HateCrimeHoaxes.

    • leon

      That was me, Thanks.

      It’s pretty crazy how fast the academic left has now eeked into corporate culture. Because they are not using Majority as a numerical term, but in the critical race theory meaning of “Majority” as in the group that has power in the society. According to that theory in Iraq, the Sunni would be the Majority and the Shia the minority because of the historical oppression of the Shia under the Sunni at the hands of the Bathist regime.

      Even in America the “Majority” group would be whites, but particularly white men (attacking women is evil), despite white men making up only 33% of the nation.

      • Not Adahn

        When Palestinians machine-gun some Jews in a grocery store, The Jews are racist. Because (((they))) have the institutional power, unlike those that merely have a few AKs. So while there may be some individual acts of aggression, they should be thought of as beautiful revolution against oppression, and it’s absolutely NOT systemic violence, it’s impossible for Palestinians to do that. .

      • leon

        Yeah. Strange, when you treat people as only members of collectives, and then see everything in that lens, you come upon some strange moral quandaries. You have 3 options:
        – Double Down and say that those moral qualms that question the morality of your system are wrong.
        – Ignore them and keep going on your mary marxist way
        – Reject the philosophy that led you to collectivizing everyone.

        There were Sunis who wielded massive and evil power to stomp on the Shia and Kurds in Iraq. But the philosophy requires that you blame ALL sunis for that, even the poor ones. The slaughter that came at the hands of the Shia during the civil war was really justified in their theory.

  13. Not Adahn

    Nice article Pie, I’ve been waiting for this to go up since I saw the pictures in the media library.

    • PieInTheSky

      Thanks. One of the three or four on topic comments. So there will probably not be a part 2

      • R C Dean

        Same thing happens to me when I post cocktail recipes.

      • UnCivilServant

        There’s a limit to how much I can comment on Pie’s lack of taste.

        Oh wait, I didn’t do that yet.

      • Not Adahn

        Bah, if I wrote things that people wanted to read, I’d never write anything. The point is to write something so that the morning links don’t bump into the afternoon links.

      • kinnath

        I don’t drink spirits and have nothing to value to add to the conversation.

        But, I do read your stuff.

      • grrizzly

        In these trying times your whiskeys look too expensive. When I highlight the price in Leis in Opera, I see the price in dollars right above the cursor. The wealth effect.

      • Bobarian LMD

        price in Leis

        How many times do you have to go to Hawaii to afford these beverages?

      • Sean

        You’ve inspired me to add “Pick up bottle of scotch” to my to do list.

      • R C Dean

        Yeah, I need to see what I can get that is palatable and reasonably priced. My $30/bottle cap is going to be tested. I’ve been working tequila for my nightcap, and its time for a change of scene.

        There are definitely decent blended scotches out there (Black Grouse and Dewar’s Scratched Cask), but I’d like to see if I can find a single malt that fits my self-imposed budget.

    • EvilSheldon

      So for those of us who don’t watch videos at work, what were they?

      • UnCivilServant

        Sig 210; Baretta 92; CZ something; Walther something; 2011

      • Not Adahn

        Custom 1911
        Custom CZ 75
        Walther PPQ Q5 Match
        Beretta 92X Performance
        SIG 210 Target

      • UnCivilServant

        Close enough, I still hit the paper.

      • Bobarian LMD

        In the bottom of the bird cage.

      • leon

        Oh so now you’re going to Work shame us to? :Squints at EvilSheldon, or should we say RUFUS!:

      • EvilSheldon

        Heh. I didn’t say I was working, just that I don’t have a good way to sneaky-watch YouTube on my phone.

    • l0b0t

      Sigh… I’ll gleefully put my Ruger Mark III up against any of those handguns. Also, because of the time frame in which I was in Army, I have an undying hatred for the Beretta 92.

      • Not Adahn

        You’re not wrong — I own a Mark I and a Mark IV, and they are both as accurate as my Shadow 2.

        But all of the pistols are 9mm or larger. The video should have been more specific in that he was talking about centerfire pistols.

      • l0b0t

        Oooh… I want a Mark IV; those look really nice. Also, my uncle’s Thompson Contender (used for turning prairie dogs into a lingering red mist) is about as accurate as a handgun is going to get.

      • Not Adahn

        I’ve got the Hunter model because it had better sights, but then I went and put a red dot on it to use it for bullseye. Had I known I was going to do that, I would have gone with the competition model since it has a nice slab sides on the barrel suitable for engraving.

  14. Not Adahn

    Woo hoo! I’ve seen a new term of address taking its first steps in the wild.

    In an effort to assume leadership of the rest of the alphabet, the Ts and Qs have unveiled a new category for you unterhomos: “Non-straight cisgender people.”

    https://twitter.com/CBCEarlyEdition/status/1277595927155376130

    • Chipwooder

      At what point do normal people finally start telling the freakshow to go fuck themselves? Enough of this shit already.

      • kinnath

        My brother, who has been a gay rights activist for a couple of decades, is not particularly fond of the trans-gender movement.

      • Chipwooder

        I wouldn’t imagine so. I’m sure quite a few normie homosexuals feel the same way about constantly being lumped together with the alphabet soup crew.

    • R C Dean

      Just trips right off the tongue, doesn’t it?

      • Not Adahn

        Not to brag, but “unterhomo” is a much better bon mot

    • Mojeaux

      Pretty soon they’ll have a label for each individual–but not their actual name.

      • leon

        Like 24601?

      • Mojeaux

        More like W-NS-CGP-E-Ath-CCA-BLMA-AF-PHD-UWBW (White-NonStraight-CisGenderPerson-Atheist-ClimateChangeAlly-BlackLivesMatterAlly-Antifa-PhD-UnderWaterBasketWeaving). Add initials for each identity claimed. With all the combos possible, nobody will repeat. If they do, then use the last 4 of the social.

      • leon

        I see. Prison numbers are reserved for people who refuse to participate.

      • Don Escaped MLB

        +41,000,000,000

        / X Æ A-12

    • leon

      IsleOfLesbo⚢
      @xxJaneDoexxxx
      ·
      3h
      Replying to
      @CBCEarlyEdition
      We gays and lesbians worked hard at acquiring equality in workplace, housing, healthcare. We didn’t want special rights, we wanted equality and protections for being homosexual, same sex attracted.

      No one was brainwashed into ideology or had to repeat mantras. #lgb #droptheT

      If this were reddit, this person would be classified as a member of the majority.

  15. Spudalicious

    LeDaig and Wemyss are the only ones I recognize.

    • PieInTheSky

      Why the upper case d?

    • invisible finger

      Two comments:

      1) Wrong Reiner

      2) I thought he was 2000 years old?

  16. Chipwooder

    Aaaahahahaha….it’s too hilarious that the Dems who all jumped ship on Amy McGrath for Charles Booker towards the end of that primary since McGrath is an insanely awful candidate now have to face the reality that their beloved early voting sunk them, as McGrath has won the primary.

    • Idle Hands

      The only thing that saves the republicans continues to be just how terrible the democrats are.

    • Viking1865

      From her wikipedia page

      “In 2016, McGrath authored an editorial for Foreign Policy magazine, calling for a thorough investigation of the decision-making process that the U.S. government took leading up to the Iraq War, similar to the British Chilcot Report. She cited the “seven investigations, … 33 hearings, and … almost $7 million examining every facet of the disaster in Benghazi, Libya, in which four Americans were killed,” and contrasted it with the “4,806 American and coalition members deaths and 32,246 wounded” and estimated $3 trillion spent during the Iraq War.[20]”

      Funny, her list of awards don’t mention her Order of the Blue Falcon, 1st Class.

    • Not Adahn

      Is she terrible? I’ve only heard about the race from NPR who presented her as a superintelligent fighter ace who was only at risk of losing because she was melanin deficient and #BLM.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        You answered your own question.

      • Viking1865

        She reads to me like the return of the handpicked by Rahm Blue Dog’s of 2006 who swarmed into office as “moderate, common sense” Democrats who all dutifully marched off the cliff of Obamacare.

      • Chipwooder

        Her campaign has been a comedy of unforced errors and dumbass statements. She’s going to get smoked by the turtle.

      • Viking1865

        But the wiki page told me McConnell is one of the least popular incumbents. Are you suggesting that the wikipedia page lied to me?

      • Bobarian LMD

        He’s very unpopular… outside of Kentucky.

        Yertle does a pretty good job of bringing home the bacon, and Ky is red to the bone. Unless you want to be Governor.

      • robc

        Everyone gets smoked by McConnell. There is one thing he is good at, and that is winning elections. For himself. When he tries to win other races, not so much.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Poor McGrath. And she had been riding the diversity hire gravy train her entire life until this summer when she and other women of not the right color were told to step to the rear of the grievance bus.

    • TARDIS

      Fighter pilot? You mean like that dead asshole Democrat, McCain?

      • R C Dean

        Also nonentity from Arizona McSally, and her opponent, Mr. Gabby Giffords.

      • Chipwooder

        Boy, if that isn’t a shit sandwich of an election, I don’t know what is.

      • R C Dean

        Uninspiring, to say the least. But its an easy decision, because Mr. Giffords is a rabid anti-gunner.

    • leon

      According to a statement released by the city of Provo, the driver of the SUV pulled into the right turn lane to turn onto Center Street when “several protesters began crowding around the vehicle.” The statement from Deputy Police Chief John Geyerman does not mention the SUV driving into several protesters, but adds that the driver “hit the gas trying to leave the situation.” According to Geyerman, “The same protester ran after the vehicle and shot a second round that went through the rear passenger window”

      Peaceful Protests

      • Chipwooder

        The world “peaceful” has become a talisman for these people, much as Ricky Bobby used “with all due respect”. Continually belching out the word “peaceful” regardless of what the protest actually is doing doesn’t make anything peaceful.

    • kinnath

      Shooter looks to be white.

      • leon

        It’s Utah… everyone’s white.

    • robc

      None of the other protesters took him down, which means, like with the cops, that they are complicit.

    • R C Dean

      Wow. The driver wasn’t being aggressive at all, just trying to ease out of the crowd. Until he was shot, anyway. The news article is pretty fucking misleading:

      Provo police are searching for a man who shot the driver of an SUV that

      sped through a crowd of protesters

      Monday night.

      Way to make the driver sound like the aggressor, you pieces of shit. Incredibly, some of the comments are saying this was vehicular assault. I see a lot more blood on the streets before we are done with this.

      I have to wonder if the police will be able to track down the shooter.

      • Sean

        I’ll be surprised if they don’t find him.

      • Pope Jimbo

        If I had just been shot at, I doubt I would have been as careful about not running over the miscreants in front of my vehicle as that guy was.

      • EvilSheldon

        Something to remember if you get caught in a situation like this – if you hit an adult at any kind of speed, you’ll probably disable your car. If the human bollard’s buddies are still around when this happens, things can get pretty bleak pretty fast.

        Honk the horn, flash your lights, and start moving slowly until you get clear. Then get the fuck out of there.

        Runflat tires and a dash cam might be worth thinking about…

      • Viking1865

        Something to remember if you get caught in a situation like this – if you hit an adult at any kind of speed, you’ll probably disable your car

        ____________

        I don’t think that’s true, especially if you’re driving a truck or SUV.

      • kinnath

        I’ve hit a deer at 55 mph in a small, sub-compact before. This did not trigger airbags or disable the vehicle.

        So, I don’t understand your comment.

      • EvilSheldon

        I’ve hit a deer in a small SUV, going around 40mph, and it was undrivable inside of 500 feet. Less, in fact, if you count the fact that the windshield was smashed and I couldn’t see where I was driving.

        Your mileage may vary, pun intended, but I would still be very careful running over people at speed.

        Strange thing to say, I know…

      • kinnath

        Aerodynamic shapes are good for shedding deer as well.

      • kinnath

        Although, I need to look into Rhino bars for the SUV.

      • EvilSheldon

        The day I get the title of my Tacoma from the bank, I’m having steel bumpers installed front and rear.

      • R C Dean

        start moving slowly until you get clear

        Pretty much what the victim was doing until he got shot. Even then, he didn’t exactly floor it, the way I would have.

        I hit a deer in an SUV (the FJ Cruiser) going probably 60 mph. No problems whatsoever other than minor body damage and a trashed front bumper. Yeah, I got the super heavy weight steel bumpers after that – ARB, oprobably a combined weight of 500 pounds, we had to change the shocks to support them. I keep meaning to get a bumper sticker, preferably in mirror image to put on the front bumper, that says “Your Car is My Crush Zone”. They bolt directly to the frame, so that is not an exaggeration.

        The FJ is built on the Tacoma/4Runner platform, so I think you’ll be fine, ES.

    • R C Dean

      Scroll down the replies, and there’s a pic of a different “protestor” pointing a gun at the SUV as it drives away.

      I haven’t been bringing a gun to work in my car because of company policy/strong anti-gun CEO. That’s changing tomorrow, even though I can’t carry it.

      • Gustave Lytton

        My friend was doing that for a month despite xer’s stated company policy. Xer is constantly weighing the trade offs between getting fired and current local risk level.

      • Suthenboy

        I have nearly never gone without a pistol in….40 years? The last time I didnt have one handy my ass had to be hauled to the hospital in a bucket and I ended up on a surgeon’s slab for about 4 hours.

        That is not going to happen to me again. Other people have no say in the matter.

      • EvilSheldon

        Fuck ’em. Roll dirty.

  17. Pope Jimbo

    No more frowning at poors using the EBT cards to buy junk food at the supermarket. Why Americans are harsh in judging purchases made by low-income people.

    Americans tend to judge low-income people more harshly about their purchases than high-income people — even when they buy identical items, according to a study published recently in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).

    In fact, Americans tend to believe low-income people need — indeed, deserve — fewer things than those who earn more, including basic necessities such as living in a safe neighborhood or having access to public transportation.

    These findings expose “a grim double standard,” say the study’s authors, for the results suggest that “in addition to economic disparities that restrict what lower-income individuals financially can consume … there is an inequality in what they are socially permitted to consume.”

    You know if you spend your own money, I really don’t give a shit about what you buy. But when you start taking govt payouts (aka my money) or bitching because you don’t have enough to buy EVERYTHING you want, you’ve lost me.

    • UnCivilServant

      I don’t judge you for buying that stuff.

      I judge you for buying that stuff with my money!

      • Not Adahn

        Is you picture on the notes? Then it’s not your money

    • Viking1865

      That’s derpy as fuck, but the comments are worse.

    • Chipwooder

      “grim”…..not hyperbolic at all.

      • Ted S.

        I thought you could only use “grim” with “milestone”.

    • Pope Jimbo

      In another experiment, participants read about a woman named Alex, who goes shopping for a car seat for her first child. She has set aside money for the purchase and narrows down her options to two choices. Both products have similarly high safety scores, but one has a few extra features that made it more convenient to use — as well as a 20 percent higher price tag ($250 rather than $180). She ends up buying that car seat.

      Again, the purchase was considered less “permissible” by the study’s participants when they were told Alex had a low income than when they were told she had a high one.

      I wonder how they controlled for particpant’s past history? When I was young and just starting a family with my wife, that extra $70 would have been our food budget for a week. (and maybe more). Maybe those people taking the survey had all started out poor and worked their way up the economic ladder? They know better than most what is really important and what isn’t when you don’t have a lot of money?

      • l0b0t

        WTF kind of car seats are they buying?!? With 2 kids, we’ve gone through 4 car seats; I don’t think all 4 of them added up to $250. Hell, when I was a kid, there were no car seats; I sat on a couple telephone directories so as to be able to see out of the window.

      • Viking1865

        The car seat scam is fucking lucrative. You can sell mommies that the 2020 model is safe, but the 2017 model WILL LITERALLY KILL THEIR CHILD.

      • Plinker762

        Isn’t the correct response “the poor person should have had an abortion”?

      • Bobarian LMD

        The cheap car-seat is just a late term abortion waiting to happen.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Again, the purchase was considered less “permissible” by the study’s participants when they were told Alex had a low income than when they were told she had a high one.

        No shit, Sherlock. Maybe, and just maybe, it shows shitty financial discipline to spend all your money on convenient features for your fucking car seat when you have trouble making rent every month.

      • kbolino

        $250 is almost 40 percent more than $180, not 20 percent.

    • l0b0t

      To be honest, the couple times I’ve managed to qualify for food stamps, I took great delight in using them for lobsters and stupendously expensive olive oils and balsamic vinegars. The looks of hatred from the other shoppers in the checkout line make it all worthwhile.

      • Rhywun

        I’ve been on ’em once. Hell, I could probably qualify now if I put my mind to it.

      • Suthenboy

        A few years ago some young, healthy, working age guy was interviewed and asked why he was on welfare.
        “If you are stupid enough to give me money I will take it and I spend it on lobster and caviar.”
        Big scandal but nothing changed.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      including basic necessities such as living in a safe neighborhood or having access to public transportation

      I don’t have access to public transportation. 1) How can this possibly be considered a basic necessity and 2) Where can I get my money for not having this?

      My wife and I lived in a sketchy neighborhood next to a ghetto when we first got together. I remember seeing drug deals going down in our front yard and it wasn’t unusual for police too be running around with drawn guns. As soon as we graduated and got better paying jobs, we moved to a safer neighborhood. It’s about personal choices and decisions for life betterment.

      • leon

        The world is fallen and that’s not just or fair. The fact that some people have scrambled their way to make a safe place for themselves just adds to the injustice. Either they pay up for everyone else or they have to live in unsafe neighborhoods like everyone else.

      • R C Dean

        I don’t have access to public transportation.

        Me neither. At a guess, its probably an 8 mile walk to the nearest bus stop.

      • salted earth

        Public transportation doesn’t make sense in a lot of situations. The demand should be for subsidized private transportation. A single mother with 3 kids who doesn’t live in a big city would be better off with her own car. I don’t see how taking a bus to go grocery shopping or to the doctor with three kids makes life easier.

      • Rhywun

        Public transportation doesn’t make sense in a lot of situations. The demand should be for subsidized private transportation.

        I would assume that “public transportation” is used for the latter interchangeably.

        But I live in a city where it’s not just for the poors so what do I know.

      • salted earth

        Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that it was. My life experiences are pretty narrow, and I was just thinking about the situations that I have encountered.
        I assumed “public transportation” was buses, trains, and subways. I have never seen subsidized private cars (and related costs) discussed as part of increased access to “public transportation.”

      • Rhywun

        I’ve seen Uber subsidies lumped in, but only in response to the subways closing overnight for cleaning. And it didn’t happen anyway.

        I dunno what poor rural folk do – I imagine all of them own cars. I grew up dirt poor and we always had a car. It didn’t always run.

    • salted earth

      I wonder how the people demanding safe neighborhoods think these neighborhoods can be created and maintained. Would it even be possible to “provide” a safe neighborhood?