ReopenNH Goes to the Beach

by | Jun 9, 2020 | First Amendment, Food & Drink, Liberty, Travel | 349 comments

On June 6th, 2020, ReopenNH held a rally (facebook event in case the ReopenNH website changes before this article runs) on the beach at Hampton Beach, NH.  The rally page (but not the facebook event page) included a list of local parking lot and restaurant owners that support ReopenNH.  The rally organizers encouraged us to support those businesses.  In case the rally page gets updated between when I write this article and when you see it, I’ll include links throughout the article to the businesses I patronized and my thoughts on them so that if you find yourself in the area, you can patronize them if you’d like.

While I typed the first draft of this article, New Hampshire news outlets published stories and pictures from the event.  WMUR and Seacoast Online published stories.  The Union Leader published a picture gallery of pictures taken at Hampton during the day, which includes pictures of the rally.  I don’t see myself in any of the pictures or videos. The night before I made my final edits to the document, I found an editorial cartoon mocking the Reopen NH group.

The day before the rally, Governor Sununu modified the restrictions on state ocean beaches. Sitting and other traditional beach activities are now allowed. The ReopenNH organizers decided to hold the rally despite the lifting of restrictions as all of the restrictions Sununu has imposed on the state need to go, not just the ones he lifted the day before the rally.

I drove out to Hampton in the morning. NH-101 was relatively empty. There was traffic, but nothing like what is normal for a warm summer Saturday in the middle of the morning.

Ocean Boulevard is closed to vehicular traffic for this summer thanks to fallout from the Lil Rona Panic.  The closing has screwed up traffic around Hampton Beach.

The ReopenNH organizers advised getting to Hampton Beach before 11:30 AM as privately owned lots will fill up and rates go up.

I arrived right at about 11:30 AM and parked in one of the privately owned lots. The lot was easy to get to from NH-101.  The staff were friendly.  The ticket was good until 1 AM.

The lot was mostly empty when I arrived.  Despite Sununu lifting some of his restrictions, the economic damage continues.

I went over to the Sea Ketch for lunch. I sat on the top deck. I had a nice fish sandwich, some decent potato salad, and a very good Mojito.  The staff were wearing masks. Hardly any customers wore masks.

I saw some folks planting a Gadsden Flag out in the sand, and some people meeting at the event’s rally point, the beach playground.  The featured image for the story is a picture I took from the top deck of the Sea Ketch of the folks out in the sand.

There were, as usual during the summer, several Hampton police officers patrolling the beach area.

I joined the folks over by the playground. They were looking for the protest. I told them I think the folks over by the Gadsden Flag are the actual rally and that I would check. Yes, I was correct. I brought the folks from the playground over to the rally.

On the way out to the sand, I noticed that signs warning beach-goers of the restrictions on activity on the beach had not been taken down.

It was a small group. There was one guy openly carrying a pistol. I did not bring my pistol as I didn’t want sand and salt spray in the gun. There was a woman selling “Live Free Open NH” t-shirts. I chatted with a few different folks about the stupidity of the orders and current events.  There were some candidates for public office who are supporters of the ReopenNH group. Some folks from the Young Republicans of Rockingham County were recruiting.  We did not keep Leper Length. We shook hands. We did not wear masks.  It was wonderful.

I did not have my bandana to cover my face.  My earlier reasons for wearing my bandana have changed.  When talking with the folks at the rally, I mentioned why I wore it at earlier rallies and why I wasn’t wearing it this time.  They agreed with my reasons and commented about not recognizing me despite my being at all of their rallies to date.

The rally was more a social event than a protest.

At some point during the rally, we could hear sirens off in the distance. Fire. There was an electrical fire in a shop along Ocean Boulevard north of us.  Multiple fire companies from the area responded.  The firemen and police restricted some roads still open to vehicular traffic so the fire engines could get through.  This further screwed up traffic in the area.

We had a Black Lives Matter heckler. The heckler, a white woman, yelled “BLACK LIVES MATTER! WHY DON’T YOU PROTEST SOMETHING THAT MATTERS!? LIKE HUMAN RIGHTS!”

We (the rally goers) looked at each other. How can anyone be this stupid? The heckler left. A Hampton police officer walked over to us and said to us, “She doesn’t know anything about the Bill of Rights.” We chatted a bit and he expressed support for us before he left.

A thunderstorm started coming in. The group decided to end the rally earlier than planned and adjourn to Charlie’s Taphouse.

I dropped off some stuff at my car. I walked over to the bar. I was the first to arrive. The bar’s deck was empty. I picked a seat underneath their deck roof just as the clouds opened up. Since I didn’t know how long I’d have to wait, I ordered food and drink for myself.  I had a delicious cheeseburger club sandwich, a massive pile of fries, and I had the first of a few excellent Dark n Stormies.

First Dark n Stormy as I waited for the rest of the group.

Eventually some of the ReopenNH folks showed up. Most of the group sat together and at times exceeding Sununu’s six person per table limit for outdoor dining.  Nothing else happened except for good conversation, eating good food, and drinking.

ReopenNH now takes donations.  Once the New Hampshire filing period ends, donations will go towards supporting candidates who support reopening the state.  The folks behind ReopenNH are looking to the next election.

If there are more rallies and I am able to attend, I will attend and I will report back.

 

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349 Comments

  1. Brochettaward

    No one knows what it’s like
    To be the bad man
    To be the sad man
    Behind the first comments

    • Ozymandias

      You know, I don’t know about the others… but… I look forward to these.

      • Oy the Billy-Bumbler

        #notme

      • Ozymandias

        With the avatar, there’s something about them (the better ones), that gives me a chuckle. It’s kind of absurdist; I think it has its own meta humor now, but that might be my imagination.

      • Mojeaux

        It’s not. Or else we have the same imagination. Brochettaward makes me laugh.

      • straffinrun

        You guys take away his power by enjoying his shtick.

      • Mojeaux

        There’s a lot of power in that axe he’s wielding.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        So, there’s power in his shtick, as well as his axe?

    • LemonGrenade

      I kinda adore you.

      • Chafed

        Look who’s going to be the second Mr. LemonGrenade.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        SMDH….

  2. DEG

    I had the first of a few excellent Dark n Stormies.

    I did not have any beer at Charlie’s Taphouse. They had an extensive beer list but since I was at the beach, I wanted rum drinks.

    • Chafed

      But it has TapHouse in the name. You were morally obligated.

    • Gustave Lytton

      I am not surprised at the last.

    • Count Potato

      LOL

    • Ozymandias

      I can hear it in Nicholson’s voice and cadence… And it’s fucking great!
      Holy shit that is funny. Somehow it makes me like him a bit more than I did.

    • Festus

      Epic.

  3. Naptown Bill

    Apparently if you go to the beach in order to protest racial injustice that mitigates any health risks, according to the CDC. I’m planning on letting a nonwhite employee remove my straight hair, a symbol of whiteness, sometime tomorrow afternoon. I’ll also be making a payment of restitution afterwards, probably around $40.

      • Florida Man

        I would prefer if the race track has said “fuck you this is our protest and we don’t want to mock the BLM protest”

      • DEG

        That is a little closer to what they did

        A sign outside of Ace Speedway read that Saturday night’s race was a “peaceful protest of injustice and inequality everywhere.”

    • Fourscore

      I’m in for Monday, a white guy that knows white hair removal. He’s going to earn his money but he’ll be paid/tipped in cash. I trust him to make it right with the IRS and I’m sure he will, just in case there’s another stimulus bill. Been about 4 months…He may not be glad to see me.

      • Naptown Bill

        Places around me are still by appointment, but it’s the kind of appointment you can make by ducking your head in the door and saying, “Can I get a hair cut?” The mom and pop places at least. I’m a little worried about the place I’m planning on going because it’s a local shop that’s already operating on thin margins as it is. I can’t imagine how hard the lockdown has been on them and I just hope they’re still open. It pisses me off to no end when I hear the “you want grandma to die so you can get a hair cut” but even more when I think about the kind of mind that doesn’t stop to consider the people who make a living cutting hair.

    • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

      Speaking of going to the beach

      Yes, I know everyone here who saw anything about this schmuck knew what he was all about. He’s simply now laid bare that his entire kabuki was because people were failing to worship his chosen leftist god-men (as opposed to hiding behind some Kate Moss-this excuse about public safety).

      In my estimation, it would be just if he caught a fatal case of COVID, just to show that his leftist self-righteousness isn’t a viral shield.

  4. Sean

    How many buildings did y’all set on fire? ?

    • DEG

      Heh.

      We didn’t rip businesses down. We spent money at them. But we’re the dangerous lunatics.

      • straffinrun

        ^Counter revolutionary.

        Keep going to these things. I like the updates.

      • DEG

        Thanks!

  5. Sean

    ” I did not bring my pistol as I didn’t want sand and salt spray in the gun. ”

    Someone needs to buy a Glock.

    • Ozymandias

      Not true – all guns are like vaginas: sand is not good in ’em. It just isn’t.

      • Sean

        Someone needs to buy an AK?

      • DEG

        Hmm… I could get behind that.

        I bid on a pre-Ban Galil Ace at Amoskeag awhile back. I lost.

      • Sean

        If we ever go to the range, make sure I bring one of my AK74s. You’ll love it.

      • DEG

        Excellent.

      • Florida Man

        I shot my cousin’s PSAK and did not care for it. AR LYFE!

      • Sean

        Different caliber.

        7.62×39 vs. 5.45×39

      • Florida Man

        Oops misread. I’ve never shot the Lil commie round.

      • Ozymandias

        I’ve shot them quite a bit in Afghanistan. They tolerate it better than ARs/M4, but “tolerate” isn’t “lather me in more o’ dat!” No gun is magically made better by being near salt spray or sand. Some, however, handle it better than others… kinda like vaginas in that regard, too.

      • Sean

        Those ink blot tests look an awful lot like a bunch of vaginas, eh?

      • Sean

        I forgot the winking emoji, as you could most likely kick my ass.

        ?

      • Spudalicious

        Winston’s Mom uses sand for lubricant.

      • DEG

        Ouch.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Yes–the great Ouch on the Couch.

  6. Oy the Billy-Bumbler

    OT: With the first pick in the 2020 MLB draft the Detroit Tigers select Spencer Torkelson 1B Arizona State University. (Hopefully)

    • Ted S.

      Too bad MLB isn’t going to be playing for years to come.

      • Oy the Billy-Bumbler

        By time they start playing again big Spence will be ready to join the big club

    • LJW

      I’d be happy if they permanently cut the MLB season in half.

      • Oy the Billy-Bumbler

        You shut your whore mouth. It should be doubleheaders every Saturday and Sunday all summer long.

      • LJW

        What’s the point of watching when your team is out of it by Mid-season. Maybe a compromise? Split the season into two and like the minors the winners of each half get in the playoffs.

      • Oy the Billy-Bumbler

        I’m in the opposite camp. Get back to AL East/west and NL east/west. 4 teams make the playoffs with league championships and then the World Series. Being the 2nd wild card team in the playoffs is stupid. Nobody remembers it 2 years later.

  7. straffinrun

    Should’ve started this with, “The day was dark and stormy…”

    • DEG

      You mean start in media res? The weather started out great, so starting with “The day was dark and stormy” means starting in the middle.

      Hmm… I think I could have made that work.

    • Ted S.

      The word you’re looking for is “sultry”.

      • straffinrun

        Guess what word I’m looking for now.

      • Ted S.

        Sluttery?

      • DEG

        “siltry”?

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Well, “hot”, and, “moist” tends to make for a wonderful time….and, humidity.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Yeah–headache in the eye. Excellent movie.

      • Mojeaux

        Chapter 18.

      • Oy the Billy-Bumbler

        I’ve heard good things about chapter 18.

      • Mojeaux

        I hope so! It means I did my job right.

      • Sean

        @Mojeaux

        I really enjoyed the book. It took me only a week to read it.

        My gf devoured it in 3 days. She couldn’t put it down.

      • Mojeaux

        Thanks! That. Is. AWESOME!

      • DEG

        My gf devoured it in 3 days. She couldn’t put it down.

        Phrasing.

      • Incentives Matter

        THREE DAYS?

        You lucky bastard!

  8. Fourscore

    Stomy was dark, even in the day, NTTAWWT. The truth is what it is. A fine dog, a bitch one might say

    • Sean

      They’re not social distancing properly, I hope they get arrested.

      /Karen

    • Florida Man

      I saw it on mute in the lounge. I’m not interested in hearing his rant.

      • straffinrun

        He’s disgusted at our lack of respect.

      • pistoffnick

        FUCK YOU!

        Respect isn’t given, it is earned. Do something to earn it you leach.

      • straffinrun

        Fuck me?! NO! Fuck you! You mad dogging me? You mad dogging me?!

      • pistoffnick

        Meant towards the mouthy guy in the video.

      • straffinrun

        I know.:)

      • blackjack

        There were 4 as in “four” deaths of cops during the whole month of June, so far. In pig speak, “there were a number of them.” Officer down doesn’t specify exactly what they died of, so it might have been three heart attacks and one cop killed. They also don’t specify which week they died in, so the “number” might be one. It is, in fact, a number, technically. Officer down never under counts, by the way.

      • blackjack

        I only say it that way because there was a for sure cop killed in Oakland this week.

      • Florida Man

        I feel bad that I disappoint some Union thug.

    • CPRM

      Stop treating us like animals and thugs and start treating us with some respect …

      Isn’t that exactly what the protesters are demanding? Golden Rule Strikes Again!

  9. DEG

    Gauleiter Murphy graciously and magnanimously deigns to lift cower-in-place

    Gov. Phil Murphy announced on Tuesday he is signing an executive order that lifts the stay-at-home order for New Jersey.

    The order had been in place since March in an effort to mitigate the spread of the coronavirus.

    Murphy said he is also signing an executive order to raise the limit on outdoor gatherings.

    Effective immediately, Murphy said indoor gatherings will be permitted at whichever number is lower: 25% of a building’s capacity or 50 people total.

    • LemonGrenade

      Guess he got tired of hearing the normies in his state rip him for what a hypocrite he is. Too bad more of them don’t seem to be bothered by it.

    • creech

      Good thing there was no need to hold George Floyd’s funeral in New Jersey.

      • Count Potato

        He already suffered enough.

  10. westernsloper

    Deg hangs at the places I would hang if I was in that sort of place. Not that I know where New Hampshire is. I always thought it was made up. I saw that word Rangoon again on the Sea Ketch website. Still don’t know what it is but if it has lobster in it I am a go! Thanks for these Deg, I like it. I will give you an update on the new idiocy here over zoom if another happens next weekend. I would rather not dox myself in type.

    • DEG

      Excellent.

  11. DEG

    The Clown Prince has another primary challenger

    A longtime Republican activist has decided to run a long-shot primary to unseat New Hampshire’s sitting GOP governor.

    Karen Testerman, the Ward 2 city councilor in Franklin and a longtime political activist and radio talk show host, will file to run for governor in the Republican primary Wednesday at the Statehouse in Concord. Testerman, a former Republican county chairwoman and founder of Cornerstone Action, a nonprofit civic organization created to promote and protect families, faith, and freedom in New Hampshire, said incumbent Gov. Chris Sununu had lost his way in the wake of the COVID-19 crisis.

    “We need to make New Hampshire free again,” she said, “because he’s drunk with power … (Sununu’s) violating his oath of office; he’s not serving the needs of New Hampshire and is putting the protesters ahead of the people who live here as well as the taxpayers.”

    Prediction: She’ll do better than Nobody.

    • Sean

      A Karen in 2020?

      Wrong year with the wrong name.

      Someone get a manager.

      • CPRM

        Testerman

        Tester!? Man!? So she’s a part of the Patriarchy and wants to administer culturally biased testes!?

      • blackjack

        She has a face for radio.

  12. Jarflax

    and once again I dead thread a post I spent too much time writing. I hate cross posting but since this will almost certainly piss half of you off I can’t resist:

    If the current trends continue we may have an easier time deciding that. It may no longer be a matter of risking ostracism if we don’t mouth slogans we despise; it may be a matter of dying in a camp or in a trench somewhere. I have continuously argued that civil war means the end of everything valuable about this country, but the current debate shows me most of what I value is already gone, and the left is intent on erasing even the memory of it.

    It’s easy; they just point out that a 19th century person had 19th century views on race and boom unpersoned. Sorry but it sickens me to the core. None of the people denouncing Lee or Jefferson or Washington is a tenth the man they were. And we jump in with the libertarian cop outs about “shouldn’t be public monuments anyway so it’s ok.’ No it isn’t ok.

    The left is never going to stop using the public spaces to push their ideology, when we cave and allow them to remove the remains of the old civic religion of American exceptionalism, we are not being neutral and fair, we are not upholding our principles, we are once again trying to meet a hostile force halfway. It is all very well to decry symbols and ‘great men’ as myths, of course they are myths! Myths are how culture is transmitted, and we are abdicating that space to the left. The place that once was filed by Lee is not empty because we remove Lee, it is immediately filled by Obama or some similar slimy little Marxist.

    • straffinrun

      I’m for succession. And if I had my way, the new state would have no propaganda apparatus in place. The only “propaganda” would be if people chose to live there or not and the state could provide that data. Now if it were to come to full on civil war and I have to rush to one side of the listing ship like in Churchill’s analogy, I’ll rush to the conservatives. I’ll be doing it out of a desire to lessen the death count, but not out of loyalty to the state.

      • LemonGrenade

        I’d be for secession, but the blue states already know they depend too much on federal subsidies to ever let functioning red states go. It’s a toxic marriage, complete with accusations of cheating and abuse. I find myself wondering if we aren’t eventually heading for either a terrible, conservative backlash, or outright war. The Rev Nehemiah Scudder comes to mind and I’m not particularly down with that brand of insanity either.

      • straffinrun

        That’s the crux right there. Either people realize that the Leviathon is beyond the ability to repair or the entire population gets swallowed up in civil war. Just look at the amount of laws on the books and how virtually every attempt at mitigating the burden on the people creates exponentially more problems. FY, cut spending. FY, cut interventions. FY, don’t replace either. That is my line in the sand.

      • westernsloper

        You already succeeded. You left the country. I am not sure that is not the answer. I have became very disillusioned (more than normal) the past three months or so and entered a new place of despair thinking the idea of America is indeed lost. I am half a mind the pooch is screwed.

      • straffinrun

        You should be disillusioned. Thoughts are crimes. They got around 1A protections by having the corporations violate the spirit of free speech. They made blatant racism chic again. They are coming for your guns. They are indoctrinating children.

        Hate to sound bleak, but maybe reality is bleak.

      • LemonGrenade

        My husband and I were speculating that we were the last of the kids to graduate from public schools that hadn’t openly moved to leftist ideals. We were theorizing that it was because we graduated before the 60’s radicals had risen to high enough positions within the system to really take over the institutions, but it’s smacked us in the face multiple times, that the public schools of today are not what we grew up with.
        That’s even before you take into account commie cooties madness.
        I’m not forcing my kids to wear a mask to school, and the idea of sending them two days a week in order to induce social distancing is just stupid.
        It was especially appalling to realize how far public schools have retarded instruction in reading and literature. In 5th grade, Animal Farm was assigned reading for my regular class. My 8th grade son informed me it was something taught to the honors English students at his school. What? That’s pretty damn basic reading. How is it considered honors level for 8th grade??
        So we’ll be homeschooling going forward. Time to put our money where our mouth is and stop abusing our children by sending them through the public school system.
        First assignment, since we have a lot of driving to do over the summer: making both of my children read Animal Farm and 1984. That’ll give us some fun stuff to discuss on the trip.

      • DEG

        I went to Catholic school. The local public schools were overglorified babysitting. I think smart successful people that came out of the local public schools did do in spite of the schools’ teaching.

        Getting your kids out and homeschooling them is a good idea. “Animal Farm” and “1984” are good.

      • LemonGrenade

        I had a few – a very few – teachers that positively rocked when I was in school. I’m pretty sure they were holdover classical liberals, or libertarians who had simply been around too long to fire, because they were pretty solidly in a “learn your history, read the news, make up your own mind” mold. I’m also pretty sure they’re all dead by now, because they were ancient when I attended high school.

        Orwell seems especially relevant given the current year.

      • DEG

        I had some excellent teachers in high school. I know of at least one that has died.

        Looking back, a few of those excellent teachers had to be closet libertarians.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Frankly, I’ve been there for a few years. I knew it was never going to return to the laissez faire freedom of the past, but there was hope of a return to a balanced society. I don’t remember exactly when I became a collapsitarian, but I think it was around the time of penaltax.

      • RAHeinlein

        As someone subject to the penaltax, I agree, a clear turning-point.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Get rid of statues? Kinki.

    • Naptown Bill

      I agree. I was going to drop something in the dead thread about Lee being a man of his time and the slower movement and percolation of ideas and norms but I think the more pertinent point is that slavery as an institution was at least something along the order of five thousand years old at the time of the war. To paraphrase someone, if you’d told someone in 1850 that slavery would be abolished in twelve years they’d think you were crazy. And, before we get too sanctimonious from our perspective in the 21 century, bear in mind that two hundred years ago slavery was an accepted norm, and one hundred years ago husbands “disciplining” their wives for getting uppity was par for the course; in one hundred years, something we accept today as normal will be considered equally immoral and barbaric. I hope future generations don’t judge us as harshly as some of us judge our ancestors.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        something we accept today as normal will be considered equally immoral and barbaric.

        For the sake of my progeny, I hope it’s socialism

      • Naptown Bill

        I’ve got a list, but putting people in prison for drug use is high on it, no pun intended. In a just world that will be thought of in the same way as lobotomies. Now, if I’m writing my Christmas list I’d love to see taxation on there but something tells me that’s going to be with us just a tad bit longer.

      • westernsloper

        Not to mention slavery still happens to this day. I being a really simple person would hope people would be more pissed at that than something nobody alive today had anything to do with hundreds of years ago.

      • Naptown Bill

        Well, for that matter, more white people are killed by police than black people, somewhere around twice as many depending on your source. Proportionately more black people are killed, but there’s also more media coverage of that when it happens and the tone is, shall we say, much, much different.

      • LemonGrenade

        Say his name!
        “Kelly Thomas”
        Say his name!
        “Daniel Shaver”

      • Tulip

        Grant and Lincoln adjusted their views, both supported initiatives meant to demonstrate that blacks could be citizens. Lee did not evolve, so I don’t care if Lee was a man of his time.

      • straffinrun

        Not to put words in Jar’s mouth, but I believe the argument is that the statues are not to be protected because of the morality of the person involved (at least not mainly), but to remind people of their culture’s history and lineage.

      • Jarflax

        That in part but also because being wrong on one issue, for whatever value of wrong we want to use, does not invalidate a man’s life and achievements. At the end of the day I don’t regard being unenlightened about race as an unforgiveable sin. People have prejudices. That is a thing that will be with us always. The nature of the prejudices changes as times and culture change, and when you dig deep into the attitudes of people in the past you will always find things you are uncomfortable with.

        Aquinas and Luther were strongly anti-semitic. Einstein was a socialist. My point is largely to argue against the libertarian idea that we should dispense with the idea of Great Men, because they are the core of the mythology that underpins culture. The left and right are having a culture war and we are sneering at them and pretending that the whole idea is beneath us. The problem is liberty can only exisit in a culture that values it and values responsibility, and you can’t create or preserve such a culture without mythic underpinings.

      • straffinrun

        The left and right are having a culture war and we are sneering at them and pretending that the whole idea is beneath us.

        I’m sympathetic to most of the argument, but not this part. I don’t think the idea is beneath me. I disagree with it. Not the same.

      • Jarflax

        In what sense do you disagree with it? I am not trying to pick a fight I am just trying to understand, because I am not sure whether your idea is that culture should be left to its own devices or whether you are denying the idea of culture? Or saying something else entirely. And it is not just you, I find libertarian discussions of culture confusing to say the least, because I view the valuing of liberty as an element of a specific set of cultural values that celebrate the individual. It seems likely that I am misunderstanding what others think about this.

      • blackjack

        It also used to be possible to hold, even an abhorrent, view and still be considered great at what you do. Not long ago, nazis and white supremacists could sell you a car or make a movie. Nobody agreed with them, they just wanted a car or a movie. If I screen all of my purchases by politics, I’d have a lot more money and a lot less stuff ( and no job for that matter.)

      • straffinrun

        The sense that any tax payer money should be spent on statues. Problem is that somebody is deciding which statues are erected and which statues are allowed to remain. If there’s a statue of a known KKK leader and it’s paid for and maintained by taxpayer money, then yeah, it should be taken down. Sell it to a private bidder. I don’t care.

        Just to show that I’m not floating above the issue and am sympathetic to the argument, here’s a piece I wrote a couple years ago on that exact topic.

        https://www.glibertarians.com/2017/09/honoring-the-dead/

      • Jarflax

        I can support that idea generally. I would say that in a number of cases private groups have offered to take over the maintenance of the statues being targetted and in some cases the staues were erected by subscription and the ‘public funds’ are groundskeeping funds that will be spent whether or not the statue remains.

      • Naptown Bill

        I like the idea that the state isn’t the one in charge of maintaining our cultural identity, and in that sense could get behind the idea of private ownership of statues. Of course, then you’ve got to talk about whether they’re on public land–Lincoln Memorial, I’m lookin’ at you–and how you handle that. For my money, if it’s one it’s all. Either no statuary, or all statuary via a public fund.

      • straffinrun

        Seems like we were talking at cross purposes. Talking about how it’s playing out in real time vs how it should be handled in a free society.

      • Naptown Bill

        Was it in Lee’s purview to evolve in that sense? Lincoln was the head of a national government, as was Grant eventually, and the victorious general of the war before that. Lee was the general of the CSA armies and, after that, mostly an old guy who’d do a few speaking appearances here and there. I’m not sure what he felt about black people in 1870 but at that point I’m not sure it mattered much, and prior to that he wasn’t the guy in charge. Maybe he could’ve pressed for abolition, or maybe he should’ve fought for the USA. Anyway, you’re certainly entitled to your opinion and, as horses go, this is about the deadest one you can beat.

    • Derpetologist

      Eh, I don’t think it will ever get that bad. The way I see it, the left shot their wad and we are now watching the death throes. The old guard are dying off and the next generation are a soft, fickle lot unaccustomed to violence or hardship of any sort. As soon as they get the slightest push-back, they will vanish like a fart in a high wind. I am not worried about being oppressed by people addicted to social media and smartphones. Good people will band together and muddle through, just as they always have. Prepare for the worst and be glad when it does not come.

      On an unrelated note: I think one of the reasons why people grant the police a lot of leeway is because the police are the ones who have to deal with people who are drunk, high, crazy, violent, aggressively rude, or some combination thereof. Imagine having to deal with the worst people all the time, being lied to by them all the time, having to chase them down and cuff them, and being threatened with punishment for actually doing your job. Oh yeah, and about half of the cops who die on the job are victims of homicide.

      My questions for the abolish-the-police crowd:

      Will there be laws? If so, who will enforce them and by what means?
      Are people going to get arrested? If so, by whom?
      Are people going to jail? If so, who will guard them, etc?

      I find it endlessly amusing that the very people who want to police social media don’t want *society* to be policed.

      • Naptown Bill

        Laws have existed well before professional police, and enforcement doesn’t need to mean the presence of a standing police force. Hue-and-cry was the traditional means in the English tradition, with assistance from the local sheriff where needed. This is assuming we’re talking about arresting someone who has committed a crime and needs to be held pending trial. Otherwise, with regard to nonviolent crimes such as property crimes, we already have a system in place for handling that without police.

        There’s also no reason that policing can’t be performed as a service by private contractors in the same way that virtually all other public services are provided. And additionally, private security is pretty common and generally accepted to have at least some arrest powers. So, the system we currently have, which is relatively new in history, is not the only way we do law enforcement even now, much less in the past. The idea of abolishing police isn’t absurd, is what I’m saying.

      • Jarflax

        Sure, but the people pushing it now are suggesting something that sounds a lot like Red Guards as the replacement.

      • Naptown Bill

        Yeah, true. It’s the same old same old as the last time BLM fucked up the opportunity to have an actual police reform movement at the national level.

      • Derpetologist

        I’ve thought about writing an article about the history of police. I’ll do a quick version now. The word police, like the words polite and politics, come from the Greek word for city, polis.

        In ancient and medieval times, the police were the town watch, who closed the city gates at night, walked the walls, and kept an eye out for bad guys and fires. The word curfew is a garbling of “cover fire”. In medieval England, at a certain hour, all fires were to be put out, and any fire seen thereafter would raise an alarm and be extinguished. In the early days of the US, the lamplighters in Pittsburgh filled a similar role.

        Fast forward to the 19th century. Britain had been wracked by riots which were suppressed with the swords of cavalrymen at Peterloo. The Bow Street Runners of John Fielding came not long before. They were blue uniforms to distinguish themselves from the military. They took statements from people who reported crimes. They advertised descriptions of criminals in newspapers and paid informants. They patrolled the roads they knew highwaymen traveled upon and arrested them.

        Long story short, as long as there have been people, there has been crime, and so also a need for laws and courts and police and jails.

      • blackjack

        I live in Los Angeles. We have our own history of police, LOL. Personally, I’m a minarchist and I agree that we need police. However, just like the other dangerous necessity, the government, I think they need strict controls to avoid violating the rights we need them to protect.

      • Derpetologist

        wore uniforms, is what I meant

        And yes, the police need limits. The best limit would be to trim the number of laws to something reasonable. The Code of Hammurabi had 282 laws, all of which would fit on a rock about as tall as a man. Ashoka in India did something similar.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillars_of_Ashoka

        ***
        The pillars of Ashoka are a series of columns dispersed throughout the Indian subcontinent, erected or at least inscribed with edicts by the Mauryan Emperor Ashoka during his reign from c.  268 to 232 BC. Ashoka used the expression Dhaṃma thaṃbhā (Dharma stambha), i.e. “pillars of the Dharma” to describe his own pillars.
        ***

        Dharma means duty in Sanskrit.

        I’d like to see a word count limit for US laws and regulations. If it’s more than what an average person can read in a day, that’s too many.

      • whahappan

        I doubt the average person could read a list of the laws in one day, much less the actual text of the laws. Not to mention regulations, which have the force of law.

      • Jarflax

        You’d be hard pressed to read a list of the categories of laws in a day. In 2018 alone we published 185,000 pages in the CFR. The US Code is 54 volumes long, the volume containing the tax code alone is 2,600 pages long. I started to download the US code as a zip file to get an accurate page count, but it is at 125 megs right now and not done, as a zipped pdf. I doubt you could read the totality of US law as of today if you did it full time for an entire lifetime. And it grows faster than you could read it so you’d have as much to read to get current when you died as you started out with.

      • Naptown Bill

        Regulations from Federal bureaucracies are an absolute travesty. For instance, did you know the EPA has SWAT teams? As does the Department of Education? And the Library of Congress? They exist specifically to enforce compliance with regulations enacted by those agencies.

      • Naptown Bill

        I’m reading Balko’s “Rise of the Warrior Cop” which is in part coloring my take on things these days. It’s a thorny issue however you tackle it, but I think especially if you’re trying to look at it from a stateless or private perspective, which is what I’m trying to do. In that vein, I think it’s important to consider objectives rather than methods, so I’m trying to think of the need to provide security and whether or not police as we have them now are necessary to accomplish that objective. I don’t think it’s a given that they are.

        With all that said, nothing happens in a vacuum, and there are historical, cultural, and societal reasons we have the police system that we have today. Also, laws are inseparable from policing, and I suspect a good first step towards meaningful improvement is to address the laws we expect police to enforce. My dad was a deputy in Prince George’s county, and I’d say at least half of the negative, i.e. dangerous, interactions he had involved people being arrested for drug-related crimes, including organized crime and gang-related stuff that’s all tied into the legal status of vice.

      • Derpetologist

        I forget the guy’s name, but he was the mayor of Baltimore for a few years during Prohibition. He told the police not to bother the bootleggers or the speakeasy folks. As a result, Baltimore had the lowest homicide rate of all US cities during that time. It was probably lower than what it is now.

        Now there’s a guy who deserves a statue.

      • Naptown Bill

        One of the few things that make me proud of Maryland is that during Prohibition Maryland’s state government basically said, “Yeah, yeah, liquor bad, whatever,” and ignored it. Maryland was the only state to never pass a state law enforcing Prohibition.

      • Derpetologist

        My bad – it’s about 31%

        From 2000 to 2020, about 3500 cops died on the job. About 1200 were homicides, with about 1100 being from gunfire.

        source:
        https://www.odmp.org/search

    • RAHeinlein

      Well-said, Jarflax – thank you for taking the time to contemplate, write, and post.

    • Rhywun

      The place that once was filed by Lee is not empty because we remove Lee, it is immediately filled by Obama or some similar slimy little Marxist.

      ^this

    • Fourscore

      It appears that every new style government has a life span of about 70 years. Russian Revolution and the break up of the Soviet Union, China/Mao and the end of the strict dictatorial style of communism and the economic opening, The end of WW2 and the falling apart of of the European Union (at least the Brexit was the beginning, Italy/Spain/Greece next). Roosevelt’s socialism 1935 ’til now, we may be overdue a little but we’ve had the socialism creep so we didn’t recognize it immediately.

      Even the end of slavery brought on a far different atmosphere that changed in 1935. Maybe I’m making the event fit the time. In any case, political systems have a way of changing, sometimes violently but always causing turmoil before they settle down and slowly start a new aura that can’t last forever. There is a change coming…

      • Derpetologist

        Very few institutions last much longer than an average human lifespan. Countries, currencies, clothes, languages*, laws

        *languages change slower, but it only took 400 years for the English of Shakespeare to be unintelligible to most people

      • Derpetologist

        Corporations and businesses too – shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in 3 generations as the Italians say.

        Generation 1 works hard and becomes rich. Generation 2 inherits and pisses away most of the money. Generation 3 pisses away the rest. Generation 4 starts over.

  13. CPRM

    Sitting and other traditional beach activities are now allowed.

    Sitting is how you get the Rona!

      • Ted S.

        Yeah, it’s all those nursing home residents going to the rally.

      • CPRM

        2-3% of tests continue to come back positive, health officials say

        Shut it all back down! 2-3% of the people who think they might have it actually have it!!!!

      • DEG

        Hmm… which state are you Gauleiter of? (Yes, I just assumed your gender.)

  14. Count Potato

    “Liberal values are therefore tossed out almost immediately. Kendi, a star professor at American University and a recent Guggenheim Fellowship winner, has no time for color-blindness, or for any kind of freedom which might have some inequality as its outcome. In fact, “the most threatening racist movement is not the alt-right’s unlikely drive for a White ethno-state, but the regular American’s drive for a ‘race-neutral’ one.” He has no time for persuasion or dialogue either: “An activist produces power and policy change, not mental change.” All there is is power. You either wield it or are controlled by it. And power is simply the ability to implement racist or antiracist policy.”

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/11/andrew-sullivan-the-intersectional-lefts-political-endgame.html

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      Literally no morals or principles. “might makes right, and if i can use people’s decency against themselves, I’ll gladly do it”

    • kinnath

      “the most threatening racist movement is not the alt-right’s unlikely drive for a White ethno-state, but the regular American’s drive for a ‘race-neutral’ one.”

      Kendi is a dangerous fucking man (presumably since I didn’t read the article).

      • Trigger Hippie

        It’s kinda amazing to see how many people today are agitating for Charles Manson’s wet dream.

    • Rhywun

      I assume the good professor has no problem handing over half of his income to me. It’s only equitable.

      • Chafed

        Are you darker than midnight?

    • grrizzly

      Kendi was born in 1982. Throughout all his life he benefited from affirmative action at the expense of people who are just like him but have a different skin color. I don’t care about random racists.

    • Jarflax

      Your house ends up covered in salt and it only kills a fly at point blank range, but it is fun.

      • AlmightyJB

        I’ll just stick with my .357

      • Naptown Bill

        That’s hell on the wallpaper.

    • Derpetologist

      Flypaper is the low-effort solution. Plus it has a kind of Vlad the Impaler vibe to it.

      “See this, assholes? You’re next.”

      • Fourscore

        Hang it right over the eating table, where you can take a daily census. I remember those disgusting things back in the ’50s.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I use in the garage, but it also tends to catch a bat every year or two.

      • Chafed

        No Bueno.

    • Florida Man

      I think Pláya had one and liked it.

    • Bobarian LMD

      If you get the Bug A Salt II, it has more oomph. I’ve killed house-flys at 10 feet and tore the wings off of wasps with it.

      It is an entertaining way to kill time in the backyard, too.

      I did have a blue-bottle fly (kind that you see on shit and dead things) that I shot five times. After the 4th shot, it had its guts hanging out in a string and it still kept going.

      • Gustave Lytton

        It’s up to 3.0 now apparently.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I got the 2.0 lawn and garden, because it was $30 and had good reviews. I look forward to pulverizing some pest bugs.

    • CPRM

      Pssst, the sound has been replaced. To what end I do not know.

      • Count Potato

        Still funny.

    • Count Potato

      I read somewhere that white people are from Europe.

      • Drake

        I’ll be leading a commission to decide what memorials and buildings in North Africa and the Middle East celebrate slavers, and have them removed.

    • Count Potato

      What you gonna do?

  15. Count Potato

    “The word ‘bisexual’ is transphobic and misleading, as it implies that there are only two genders.

    Being attracted to men and womyn is a valid sexuality, however the word ‘bisexual’ is outdated.

    I am campaigning for the JLGBTQ community to come together & find a new term for it”

    https://twitter.com/UnbiasedKatie/status/1270089850818093062

    Spoiler: The “J” is for Journalist.

  16. Ozymandias

    Hey. I think I’ve already doxxed myself here, but a propos of the blowup with Glassman, I wrote this in response to the mob. I posted it on my blog and shared it on linked in. I’ve heard from a number of people – including my old boss. Trigger Warning: I didn’t care about word length.

    In Defense of Greg Glassman – https://www.theabjectlesson.com/2020/06/09/in-defense-of-greg-glassman/

    • DEG

      I like it.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Me too. You write good, mr ozy.

      • Ozymandias

        Thanks, Gustave. I threw that together in one day – and I missed some things, but it was already pretty long.

      • blackjack

        Yeah, me too. I really enjoyed Yarnell Az, also. Great place. The road from Congress is one of the best roads in the whole state.

    • Drake

      I laughed

    • Naptown Bill

      What’s funny is that just days ago the problem with STEM careers is that there aren’t enough wamyn and POCs and so forth involved in them. A lot of grant money and presumably effort has gone into trying to promote STEM among anyone but boring old white and Asian men, because, you know, fuck them. File this under “Some Shit”.

    • CPRM

      This is being done on a global computer network unironically:

      STEM didn’t create the internet, the government did you fascist alt-right racist!

    • Jarflax

      Amazon has the top level of their video library and the top level suggestion on audible as “suggestions for learning about systemic racism.” Scientists are going on strike in solidarity with BLM. I have to agree with the Kekistanis; it is clown world.

      • LemonGrenade

        I decided to watch Terminator 2 instead.

      • Jarflax

        Oh you went highbrow? I watched Van Wilder.

      • LemonGrenade

        I own Van Wilder and have watched it at least 10 times. And I still can’t watch the full unedited still warm eclair scene. But I still love that movie.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      Kimberly Morin
      @Conservativeind
      ·
      9h
      The latest idiocy from the SJWs…. I’m currently in a Master’s STEM program… No, I will not #ShutDownSTEM to #Strike4BlackLives why? Because ANYONE can go into a STEM field. STEM doesn’t know race or sex you halfwits.
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      Sarah Fletcher
      @SFletcherH2O
      · 11h
      I’m participating in #ShutDownSTEM #Strike4BlackLives tomorrow. No research, no meetings. I’ll be spending the day developing an anti-racism action plan for my first year as a professor. Want to join me?
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      Victoria Thompson, M.S.
      Rainbow flag
      @VictoriaTheTech
      ·
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      Questions that need answers NOW:

      1.) Why do so many students of color get a message that STEM isn’t for them?
      2.) Why do Latinx and Black students leave STEM majors at higher rates than their white peers?
      3.) HOW is this acknowledged but nothing seems to be done?!

      1) because they suck at math?
      2) because math doesn’t get easier once you get on campus
      3) because you can’t force people to study a major they don’t like and/or don’t understand

      Notice that this all applies to wypipo just as well as POC people. The difference? There isn’t a coordinated attempt to get wypipo, especially white men, into STEM at the sacrifice of the admitting standards.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        News from the freeish state of Texas. I took my family out to dinner tonight at Chuy’s. There wasnt any parking available there due to being busy, so we had to park next door. Even so, we were sat immediately. Besides the tables being spaced further apart and the menu being limited, it was hard to tell that there was anything not normal. The commies on ESPN were going all batshit leftist, but that was the only sign of the insanity of the times.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Shoulda gone to La Ha, my man. Better fajitas. Better hooch.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Idiocracy, complete with buildings lashed together with rope to keep from falling down, here we come.

  17. hayeksplosives

    Thanks for sharing your NH adventure!

    I snickered are the 6 person per table rule. This shit is totally arbitrary.

    • DEG

      Thanks!

      The Clown Prince has stated that he does nothing arbitrary. Everything he does is based in data and science.

      Heh.

      On the 15th, restaurants in the four most populous counties of NH can reopen for indoor dining at 50% capacity and tables must be six feet apart.

      Also on the 15th, restaurants in the remaining counties can open for for indoor dining at 100% and tables must be six feet apart. “One of these things is not like the other…”

  18. cyto

    On the reopen front…

    They are either incompetent or liars.

    They said “flatten the curve so we don’t overwhelm the healthcare system”.

    And then did nothing that looks like trying to lop off the peak of the curve. If that was your objective, you’d want to start locking things down after there was a sufficient mass of cases, but before there were so many that even locking things down would not stop the system from being overwhelmed.

    So New York locked down in time. Barely. I mean, barely barely. And they probably killed a lot of people in nursing homes.

    But everywhere else locked down before the peak even got started. So we stayed and stayed and stayed….. and most of the country still hasn’t started catching Covid-19.

    Now, they can be forgiven for the very, very beginning. Because nobody was sure how quickly it would spread in the US with all of our travel. But a month in? They were on criticizing governors and the president entirely based on political party, with no regard to actual facts.

    And now? Good lord! They still oppose opening up in parts of the country where nobody has caught it yet… but they support mass groupings of people in large cities where the virus is pretty well established. But we still are nowhere near that peak of the curve that they desperately wanted to flatten. Hospitals are far from overrun… they are actually hurting financially because they’ve been so empty because of the lockdown.

    So they didn’t actually promote a strategy to “flatten the curve”. They morphed into a strategy of “stop the spread of the virus for as long as it takes”. Which is silly and accomplishes nothing positive. If they wanted eradication, they’d have to switch to quarantine and contact tracing, locking tens or hundreds of thousands of people in quarantine. They’d have to shut down travel to the rest of the world – lest it get re imported… It would be an entirely different battle.

    Now, If I’d known that this was going to be an Eight Trillion Dollars of Federal Spending problem combined with a 10 trillion out of the economy problem, I’d have told them to go with quarantine. For maybe a hundred billion they could have locked the whole thing down for 3 weeks and been done with it…. paying people to test and trace every case. Then we’d have to test every human coming in to the country. But that still would be at least an order of magnitude cheaper than what we did.

    So… flatten the curve – liar or stupid? Because you didn’t follow a “flatten” strategy.

    And if you really knew what was happening, why the hell didn’t you push for “stop the spread with quarantine”… because that would have been cheaper and more effective.

    • Jarflax

      We liev at the nexus of ineptitude and malice.

    • DEG

      Cower-in-place started in March.

      I’ve seen work showing Lil Rona first popped up in humans in November in China.

      I think that means it had to have been in the USA since December.

      I feel somewhat vindicated as Ohio officials found proof Lil Rona was in Ohio in early January.

      • Akira

        I feel somewhat vindicated as Ohio officials found proof Lil Rona was in Ohio in early January.

        I got wicked sick last fall with some respiratory shit. I think it began the last weekend in October and lasted until about New Years. It started with one person in my cubicle row, then everyone else got it in sequence. The person on the other side of me became sick, but they are on a 7-on/7-off schedule, and they stayed home for a week, so I think the chain got broken there.

        I exercise, eat healthy, and make it a point to not live a totally sterile life so that my immune system stays on top of things. It’s extremely rare for me to get sick, and even rarer for it to be more than a mere annoyance… But whatever this was knocked me on my ass. I was coughing so much that my intercostal muscles and tendons became strained.

        I never got a sputum culture done, so I can’t say for sure, but it wouldn’t surprise me if that was the ‘Rona. I’d like to get an antibody test done, but it costs $70… And $70 would buy one damn fine bottle of Scotch.

        Mmmm, Scotch…

    • hayeksplosives

      They are power tripping. Some are power tripping for its own sake, some are testing for weaknesses in a future “lockdown”, and some were power tripping because they really thought they’d been placed in govt for just such a time.

      This is why we need rule of law, not rule by dictatorial fiat or bureaucratic committee findings.

    • LemonGrenade

      We know it was all safetyism bullshit because they immediately reversed course when the matter of police brutality arose. Suddenly, the risk of transmission was less important than the 1st amendment, whereas anyone who protested to reopen was treated like a science denying monster that wanted to kill grandma. I’m not saying that it’s an unimportant issue, but I honestly believe that respecting a person’s right to work and earn a living does far more for the black community that promising increased spending on social programs that will only be swallowed by grifters and crooks.

      • Naptown Bill

        Tom Woods
        @ThomasEWoods
        ·
        Jun 3
        So what we’re learning this week is that killing your grandmother is evidently all right as long as you have a good enough reason

      • Naptown Bill

        I wonder if the people who’ve been telling us that gathering in groups of ten or more is effectively murder and who now say that there’s a #BLM exception to that are being disingenuous about anything else…

  19. hayeksplosives

    On my 14 mi commute to work today and yesterday, I noted that there is almost zero commercial trucking happening.

    Until we start seeing a significant uptick in shipping, the economy may be considered depressed.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Didn’t that kid ever watch Animal House? Say what you will about Wormer, he was correct about the whole “Fat, drunk, and stupid” shpiel.

      • Chafed

        I’ll bet his grandmother regrets not whipping his ass.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Chris Rock used to say it in his stand-up: Drill it into their heads, before the police drill it into their ass. The corollary is whoop their ass young, before the world does it to them as adults.

  20. Lachowsky

    The left says socialism is good, except for when it comes to the police.

    The right says socialism is bad, except for when it comes to the police.

    Markets are the solution.

    • Derpetologist

      Hmm. I’ll add to that.

      The left says unions are good, except for when it comes to the police.

      The right says unions are bad, except for when it comes to the police.

      • Lachowsky

        And still, markets are the solution.

    • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

      Yeeeeah….umm, police =/= socialism. Not that I don’t agree with market solutions; it’s still not socialism.

  21. LemonGrenade

    I am definitely not built to deal with the coronapanic. I could barely keep myself from snapping at everyone at the dentist’s office as they went through the ritual health check.
    “Have you been in contact with anyone who was presumed positive or tested positive for covid-19?”
    “I’ve been locked in my house for three months! No.”
    I also complained about their insistence on me slathering my hands up with Purell right before they spent 30 minutes in close contact with my mouth.
    I wouldn’t wear a mask, either. Just call me a rebel.

    • straffinrun

      Tucker is taking the fight right at them. He seems cancel proof right now, but the tidal wave may overcome Fox at some point.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        He could move to OANN (which I have never seen as it’s not in my cable package).

    • Chafed

      Fantastic. Tucker Carlson is the voice of reason. SMOD take me now.

    • CPRM

      Santamaria said she had been paying Chauvin, when he was off-duty, to sit in his squad car outside El Nuevo Rodeo for 17 years.

      His squad car? Campaign finance violation! It’s all Trump’s fault!

    • Rhywun

      the now protest-torched club

      Because of course.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        The owner thinks the cop she hired had racial(ist) behavior/mind-set, and still kept him on the payroll??? Am I understanding that right?

      • Chafed

        I think so.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Presuming this is the case, why DAFUQ she kept him around?? If she was aware he was disproportionate with her black customers, shouldn’t protesters be asking her this shit?? Then again, they did burn her club down, so…

        It’s little things like this, though, that slowly chip away at free-market arguments about business owner not doing things to harm customers. Unfortunately, they sometimes actually do, so it would seem.

        But, yeah–she got her shit burned down, so…

  22. DEG

    I’m out for the night. I’ll take a look in the morning and respond to anything that needs a response then.

    Have a good night!

  23. DenverJ

    These asshats are gonna milk the covid till the end. Watch what insanity is coming for schools this fall.

    • CPRM

      milk the covid

      I’m guessing it has more similarities to ‘milking the prostate‘ than I’m comfortable with.

      • hayeksplosives

        There are quite a few families now choosing to stick with homeschooling after being forced into it by covid.

        Even liberal soccer moms.

        This will of course need to be clamped down “for the good of socializing the children.”

        Yeah, “socialize” has 2 meanings there.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Yeah; getting that comfort level right is the key, one would think.

  24. JaimeRoberto Delecto

    My company has another struggle session tomorrow. In today’s struggle session one of the directors gave an example of systemic racism which really was an example of a large centralized bureaucracy ignoring its customers. I’m seriously considering heckling this crap in order to get fired so I can sue.

  25. R C Dean

    Ammo Alert:

    BulkAmmo.cpom has 250 Rounds of 2-3/4″ 12ga Ammo by Federal LE – 00 Buck. Also smaller quantities. I just stocked up.

    • Chafed

      He sounds nice.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        “Such a nice boy!”

    • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

      I’m starting to get that feeling of, “Should start a private security company that goes in heavily armed and is prepared to move these vermin out, as needed”. Then again, if these candy-asses weren’t cowed by bad press, they could have easily taken care of this shit as it happened.

      • Chafed

        The city leadership is clearly useless or worse. I’m starting to wonder what some of the larger companies will do. Assuming the owner of that Sheraton can rebuild, my guess is his insurance costs are going way up. Does he/she/they hire private security to mitigate the risk?

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        I figure; the bigger they are, the harder they fall for whatever social wind blows in their direction. Of course, how many real estate properties actually have riot/civil unrest insurance?

    • straffinrun

      Yet they won’t go Waco on them despite the BD’s being a far less dangerous threat.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Well, tbf, FedGov did kinda blow their load (and credibility) in Waco.

        God, that sounds like the beginnings of a modern CW ballad….

      • straffinrun

        I thought equal application of draconian measures was the goal.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        #ResurrectJanet

    • Chafed

      He is a scumbag.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        How’d he ever get elected in a city with such a large Jewish pop? I mean, I’m sure he doesn’t think he’s anti-semitic. Or, hell–maybe he does, and just loves to try to hide it to people that only care about the () after the candidate’s name. I kinda give up on trying to figure this stuff out.

        Still, it manages to shock me.

    • straffinrun

      Unequal treatment under the law is the new normal.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Well, Turn-about is Fair Play certainly is, if that fuckhead professor from that Andrew Sullivan article upthread is any indication.

  26. straffinrun

    The good thing about Joe is that if he loses, he won’t dwell on it.

    • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

      Damn….

    • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

      That dude just wants to get railed by the bigger guys in the cell block.

  27. salted earth

    My dog looked both ways before crossing the street today.
    Even knowing it wasn’t “intentional,” I was proud of him.

    • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

      That is a very good pup! Given how things are starting to unravel, I see better why the “Dogs > Humans” things has taken hold with so many people.

      • salted earth

        they will admit when they have done something wrong. and it is easy to forgive them when they give you those sad eyes, flat ears, and tucked tail.

      • Digby recommends Crelm toothpaste

        Also, as with people, I’m allergic.

      • salted earth

        Response 1- They make pills for that.
        Response 2- Just get a big hampster ball/bubble thingie for the dog to live in.
        Response 3- How does that make you feel?

      • Digby's Peek-A-Boo!

        They don’t make pills that make people more tolerable, though. Plus, I got too much stuff that a dog would most likely destroy, and that would result in the dog being destroyed. As I have 0 interest in participating in that, it’s better I stay away.

        Also, sad, really. But, I’ve learned to appreciate them at a distance.

      • Gustave Lytton

        My wife tells me from time to time that I forgot to take my asshole pills. If there supposed to make me not an asshole, wouldn’t they be anti asshole pills? I haven’t clarified that yet.

      • salted earth

        Don’t they make pills that make you not care…about anything. It might be as close as we can get.

      • salted earth

        “Also, sad, really. But, I’ve learned to appreciate them at a distance.”
        Looks at Digby’s avatar, people or dogs?

      • Digby's Peek-A-Boo!

        Hey, hey, hey–I’m no hammer, so not everything gets nailed.

      • Digby's Peek-A-Boo!

        Also–for HM

  28. Digby's Peek-A-Boo!

    Oh, straaaaaf…I see you.

  29. Gustave Lytton

    Oh yay. Our CEO has decided to embrace xer innner racist. Listening tour for xer and struggle sessions now mandatory for certain levels and above. Missed it this time but how long before it’s mandatory racist training for everyone? F me.

    I’m gonna let the cop with a sniffle problem (got something white there, Eddie) take it away

    https://youtu.be/o0JqC2UDpoE

    • Digby's Peek-A-Boo!

      I just had to do the (anti) harassment/bias training yesterday. Mein Gott, was it ever woke. That whole industry that created its own need. Blech.

    • salted earth

      This is all a bit weird. Do they really think of themselves as racists? Do they think that the people that they are working with every day are racists? Most companies have been focusing on diversity and training against bias for years. It does not seem like they are trying anything new, so why would it work now?

      • Gustave Lytton

        I glazed through the memo. Something like ‘I’m sure most people aren’t really racists but we must do better’. I wonder how much is xer flailing around and how much xer is trying not to get shafted by an opportunistic subordinate.

      • salted earth

        I’m sorry, there will be no raises this year because we had to hire a new diverstiy and inclusion team and make a big donation to BLM.

      • Digby's Peek-A-Boo!

        New? I’m not sure, as far as my experiences are concerned. Being in Higher Ed for 15 years, but, in the police part, and the Jr College part, to boot, I’ve probably missed worse stuff. But, this go-round seemed quite infantilizing, and, was the first time I can remember seeing “microaggressions” as a valid work term.

        Oy vey.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Speaking of community colleges, wonder how long before students start demanding that they shut down CJ programs? The ones around here utilized a number 1/4-1/2 adjunct instructors who also are/were sworn officers.

      • salted earth

        Next up, nanoaggressions.

      • PieInTheSky

        I think nanoaggressions have been a thing for a few years now.

      • salted earth

        Um…maybe we should just go back to overt racism. It might make things easier.

    • salted earth

      I haven’t seen that movie. Do the missing strawberries have something to do with the mutiny?

  30. Digby's Peek-A-Boo!

    In reference to a discussion up top: I’ve never read neither 1984, nor, Animal Farm.

    Should I feel bad about this fact? Because, I don’t, really.

    • salted earth

      no

    • PieInTheSky

      Huxley is not for everyone

      • Digby's Peek-A-Boo!

        ?

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      I read animal farm for the first time a year or two ago. I think both are worth the read, but I’m not gonna bust balls for not having read ’em

  31. UnCivilServant

    Morning, Glibs.

    It’s hard for me to keep up with comments while attending meetings (even teleconferences), and that seems to be my entire work schedule these days.

    Needless to say, I have reached record low productivity.

    • Sean

      Don’t worry, you’ll still get a participation trophy. ?

      Time to get ready for work. ?

      Mornin’

      • UnCivilServant

        Participation trophies aren’t even useful for levelling a wobbly table.

      • Festus

        Those Pewter medals would come in handy in a pinch. That’s why I discarded all of my trophies. So many third-place throw-aways. My Dad had an actual Trophy Room. Gaze in awe and wonder upon my athletic achievements and despair!

      • UnCivilServant

        Medals? Physical Trophies?

        No, we got generic printouts run off on a school xerox machine.

        I’ve never once gotten an award or recognition that wasn’t just a sheet of paper or a digital file you could choose to print on a sheet of paper.

      • Festus

        Yeah, I’m old.

    • Gender Traitor

      Mornin’, UCS. Yesterday I had to sit through a Zoom-based training session about OneNote, which I don’t foresee using very much, so I got away with scrolling through comments on my phone. I’d rather go through the training materials on my own anyway.

      • Festus

        Wifey is getting called back for “training” which pisses her off to no end because until recently SHE was the instructor. Union politics are poison.

      • UnCivilServant

        Training isn’t for the edification of the employee, it’s for limiting the liability of the employer.

      • Festus

        yes

      • UnCivilServant

        I dislike Zoom for three reasons – one, it hides the participants panel by default and I have to tell it to show me who’s in the damn meeting. two – it won’t call me and I have to go through the hassle of dialing in. Computer audio through RDP over an overtaxed VPN is not a viable option. Three – when I do use computer audio it doesn’t have a double mute option and if I get unmuted in the application it toggles off the mute built into my microphone. Fuck you Zoom, those are not supposed to be linked.

      • Gender Traitor

        Most or all of us in the training had never participated in a Zoom meeting from our own work stations (some from home,) so a good chunk of the time was spent on such tech issues as “Your shared screen is filling my entire screen, so I can’t see my own PC’s controls to open what you’re telling me to open.” Good times.

      • Festus

        So it wasn’t just me being drunk? Good to know! That’s like looking outside and seeing the truck parked smartly in the driveway…

      • UnCivilServant

        Oh, that’s another zoom pet peeve – automatically switching to fullscreen just because someone deigned to share their screen. I never put teleconferences to fullscreen willingly. It’s not needed.

      • Festus

        Having to yell over the under-babble is vexing to me.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s no worse than a crowded room.

      • Festus

        A professional “meeting” is not a crowded room unless you count Glib-Chat.

      • UnCivilServant

        You don’t attend many meetings do you?

      • Festus

        I love you, Dr Zaius!

  32. Festus

    Mornin, Breakfast Club! We are still moving mail at Xmas levels in the Plant, so much so that they added an overnight shift. Bully for me because that means that my shift gets curtailed by two hours. Can’t do certain work on an active floor. It’s nearly my favorite rule, only superseded by the one that states that I don’t have to climb any ladder to change tubes more than 12′ from the ground. I have vertigo. Ladders terrify me. So far as “Re-open” goes, we’re well on our way to old normal.

    • Festus

      ETA – I get paid by the day, not by the hour. Hero pay and a scheduled raise are making me bank in these trying times.

    • Gender Traitor

      Mornin’, Fes. Still waiting for my “mis-shipped” package, which can’t seem to find its way from Columbus, OH, to Dayton, OH. Alleged new delivery date is tomorrow, but I’m not optimistic. I think it would have been better if they’d just left DHL out of it and sent it straight to the PO.

      • Festus

        I rag on the Postal people sometimes here but the ones that I have personally come to know are a pretty kind and decent bunch. Hard-working in their own way, even. They treat me with dignity for the service that I provide and I in turn try to take care of them as best I can. It’s not my dream job but I’ve endured far worse.

  33. UnCivilServant

    Opened up the weather forecast and… Ugh, neither temperature nor humidity is expected to go down at all during the overnight tonight.

    On the flip side, they expect precipitation, so maybe the cobwebs* will be washed off my car.

    *Okay, they’re active spiderwebs because it’s bug season and my car hasn’t moved a whole lot.

    • Gender Traitor

      We’re being warned of the possibility of severe weather from mid-afternoon through early evening. “There is a threat for damaging winds, large hail, and tornadoes today.” Zippy wow.

      • UnCivilServant

        We have… “A chance of thunderstorms”.

      • Festus

        We haven’t yet had a day over 68 American. Everything is lush but about three weeks behind.

      • UnCivilServant

        We’ve been reliably in the 70s and 80s here, with high humidity.

        At least I’ve sorted out the air conditioner drainage. Sadly, it looks like the damage to the floor is permanant.

      • Festus

        Shit-fuck! Welcome to my floors and ceilings. Sorry.

  34. Gender Traitor

    I choose to take as good news this report that my blood type may offer me slight protection from the Wu Flu. I’ll enjoy it until they come back and say, “Never mind!”

    Still refuse to give my DNA to any of these “confidential” testing/ancestry-analyzing outfits.

    • Trigger Hippie

      What, you don’t want a private company to basically have ownership of your genetic coding to use and sell to whomever they wish?

      • Gender Traitor

        My ancestry on both sides is pretty evenly split between Germany and the British Isles. That’s as much as I need to know. Hand over my genes for the sake of knowing maybe I’m 2% French? Merci, non.

      • UnCivilServant

        Oh, don’t worry, they can’t separate French from German. It’s all “Western Europe”

      • Trigger Hippie

        I’m fortunate enough to have records of my family tree dating back to the year 1500 so there’s very little reason for me to get a test. My earliest known ancestors are from the regions that made up the ever shifting borders between the Netherlands and the old Holy Roman Empire/Getmamy. The first ancestor of mine to reach the Americas did so in around 1679. As consequence, my blood is very diverse. Ranging mostly in Western Europe but I have a smattering of black, native american, slavic jew, and a host of others.

      • Trigger Hippie

        *er, Germany.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’ve never looked into the DNA stuff but it seems like it’d be easy enough to give a fake name and false information. Surely some of those outfits take bitcoin or some other anonymous method of payment.

    • Festus

      So I’m golden! Time to go back to licking doorknobs (as has always been my wont). O negative, Baby!

      • UnCivilServant

        Is this before or after you’ve cleaned the doorknob?

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Sounds like you’re good as long as you don’t need a transfusion.

    • Festus

      Hey JD! My first serious girlfriend was from King’s Lynn. Are you close to there? I take it from prior posts that you are in the eastern part of England. Not prying, just curious.

      • JD is in the United Karendom

        It’s a couple of hours drive. I don’t recall having been to that part of Norfolk but I’d like to visit when (if?) the national covid theatre ends. I mean, I could go there now but ain’t much gonna be open.

      • Festus

        She was a red-head and Qwerthy. Somehow I ended up being entangled in their family drama for a full twenty years. It’s a long tale a barely worth the telling. I dated her. I made out with her Sister. I was room-mate with her Brother’s Ex whom I also slept with. The Brother did himself in. He was good friends with a later ex that became my ex-wife. Looking back it seems pretty insipid now. Ring the bell. I feel the shame.

    • JD is in the United Karendom

      Everything I have heard about Philadelphia suggests to me that it might not be a particularly nice place, and that perhaps the “brotherly love” moniker might be cruelly ironic.

      Mornin’, Sean.

      • Sean

        Good morning.

    • Chipwooder

      Need moar social workerz!

    • JD is in the United Karendom

      Whale is cabbage! Ya whole whale family is cabbage!

    • Festus

      Up here at Costco they “recommend” the mask. Nobody wears them.

      • Festus

        Still no free eats, though.