Sunday Morning Very Important Links

by | Jun 14, 2020 | Daily Links | 245 comments

Me: What should I use as my theme for Links?

SP: Your theme?

Me: Yeah, you know, that little personal anecdote section I like to start with.

SP: Make something up. No-one gives a shit.

Me: Like a story about how you killed some hobos and stuffed their bodies into the back of a gypsy wagon?

SP:  /isn’t listening or reading

 

Birthdays today include the one who didn’t get shot; a guy with the most perfect Mormon name ever; a guy who was eminently forgettable; the sound of Rankin/Bass horror; one of a long and honorable line of White House shills; a strong argument for term limits; the worst president since the last one; and one of my favorite corner backs.

On to the news.

 

You’ll have to remind me- why the fuck do we have a base there?

 

I love stuff like this. Sweet sanctimony. Sweet, sweet sanctimony. Oh, we now need to rename “cotton.” But it’s white, therefore intrinsically problematic. What to do, what to do.

 

Pot, meet kettle.

 

It’s always the Jews. Errrr…. wait….

 

Speaking of which, here’s some burning irony.

 

Buh-bye! Oh, and also, Buh-bye!

 

Atlanta: Shitshow

 

Old Guy Music is someone that, sadly, I never got to see live. But what a legacy! You can hear where Oscar Peterson got his thing from.

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Old Man With Candy

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me. Wait, wrong book, I'll find something else.

245 Comments

  1. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I always enjoy a good hobo murder story. Do tell.

  2. Count Potato

    “Two other sources who were not in the room, but had knowledge of the situation also confirmed the exchange to the news outlet. ”

    So you’re saying it’s bullshit?

    • Sean

      Yup.

    • Count Potato

      I don’t even think George Floyd’s death was motivated by race.

    • Overt

      I believe you are talking about this guy:

      “RationalPoet
      @Brianrrs37
      Ayaan, I love you. But really? You escaped the inequity of your own past. Blacks in America are not saying black on black murder should be ignored. They are only saying institutionalized racism makes our justice system lopsided. If anyone should understand that you should.”

      How in gods’ name do people get away with this? As near as I can tell, this Rational Poet dude is white. And yet here he is white-splaining to a black woman what racism she should be concerned about?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I was referring to this one:

        Piquant
        @piquancy_
        ·
        Jun 13
        Replying to
        @Ayaan
        When a white man takes the life of a black man, it’s often motivated by something more sinister, primarily due to historical relevance of race in America & around the world.

        Then when you consider that said white man is in a position of power, it becomes even more problematic.

      • Bob Boberson

        Murderers take note! If you murder outside your race, you are a racist!

      • Cy

        Not if you keep the percentages right!

      • R C Dean

        Mostly, I seem to be hearing/seeing whites running their yaps about this anyway.

      • Overt

        Yes. And as soon as one of those guys starts lecturing me about White Privilege, I tell them to shut up then. If my white privilege keeps me from opining, then it keeps them from opining too.

    • DEG

      Posted before, but apropos.

  3. Cy

    “Protesters have declared a small slice of Seattle an “autonomous zone” after clashes with authorities led police to evacuate a precinct.”

    Fucking commies!

  4. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Concerning the Atlanta thing.

    1) Wrestling the cops and grabbing for their weapons is generally considered a very bad idea.

    2) If a Taser is truly a non-deadly weapon, why did the cops respond with deadly force?

    • westernsloper

      If a Taser is truly a non-deadly weapon, why did the cops respond with deadly force?

      That was my first thought.

      • cyto

        a) don’t point gun type thingies at someone holding a gun. It is known.

        b) If you are holding a gun and someone who has just visited violence upon you is holding the means to incapacitate you and take the gun from you… and demonstrates the intent to use it, what do you do?

        That being said… the “cooler heads” version of this would have been to let the drunk guy get away. Just let him run off and pick him up later.

        But that’s not how police think. They don’t stop, don’t back up, don’t de-escalate. In their defense, that’s probably a built-in human failing as much as anything. The ability to dispassionately and quickly consider various options and evaluate potential outcomes after having just been punched in the face multiple times doesn’t seem to be among our toolkit.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The ability to dispassionately and quickly consider various options and evaluate potential outcomes after having just been punched in the face multiple times doesn’t seem to be among our toolkit.

        +1 Mike Tyson

      • westernsloper

        “meet force with equal force” or some such is what I was taught. I dunno. Thinking about it the man did just kick the shit out of two cops so they would probably win that one in court. Yes, I wish they had just let him run off. It would have saved a lot of trouble and another person would not be dead.

      • straffinrun

        I’m as much an opponent of the cops as anyone, but if this shooting is deemed “murder”, then every attempted arrest the cops make will turn into a brawl. Maybe not a bad thing, but certainly doesn’t seem sustainable.

    • Count Potato

      “Cop who shot Rayshard Brooks dead is fired and police chief quits as bodycam shows the black man talking politely to officers seconds before he was killed – as protests erupt across Atlanta”

      That’s a misleading headline.

      “About 30 minutes into the interaction, Rolfe tells Brooks that he believes he is too drunk to operate a motor vehicle and that he is being placed under arrest. As the officers begin to handcuff him, Brooks begins to struggle, knocking the bodycamera to the ground.

      Little else is seen of the interaction, but the officers are heard shouting ‘stop fighting, stop fighting,’ a taser is heard being deployed, and three shots are heard seconds later.

      Video from other angles has already shown that Brooks swung punches at the officers, stole a taser, and fled, turning to point what appears to be the stolen taser at Rolfe before Rolfe unholsters his gun and shoots Brooks.”

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8418741/PICTURED-Atlanta-cop-Garrett-Rolfe-fatally-shot-Rayshard-Brooks-outside-Wendys.html

      “Officer Garrett Rolfe was fired from APD after fatally shooting Rayshard Brooks on Friday night
      Officer Devin Bronsan, who was also present, has been placed on administrative duty
      Atlanta Police Chief Erika Shields resigned on Saturday less than 24 hours after the shooting”

      Yet, even after they did all that:

      “Wendy’s restaurant in Atlanta was set on fire on Saturday night in protest over the shooting”

      • cyto

        For those who don’t care to watch the snuff films…. this one isn’t close.

        It will be adjudicated a good shoot after the investigation. Dude violently resisted arrest, stole the taser, pointed the taser at a pursuing officer as he fled and appears to have pulled the trigger. Ten times out of ten a police review board is going to find that to be a justified use of force.

        Not to say that this was the smartest course of action – but there’s zero chance that he’s going to be found to be criminally liable.

        And given the pressures of the moment, for the black, female Mayor of Atlanta to come out and call it murder and call for his firing was pure cowardice. She’s clearly smart enough to watch that video and see those facts. She had the opportunity to calm the storm somewhat, and instead she threw gasoline on the fire.

      • straffinrun

        Yeah, I’ve watched it a couple times from different angles. That’ll get you shot almost every time regardless of race.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I don’t disagree. That cop will be cleared, guaranteed.

        I just am amused by the claim the “Tasers are non-lethal” claims now.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I think I’ll claim another claim after I claim something else.

        After some coffee, of course.

      • cyto

        In another scenario that would be good snark… since they’ve been fighting against any pushback about using tasers and any claims that people have been killed by tasers. But since they are raging and burning buildings based on the narrative that a model citizen and Dad was murdered by police on his way to his daughter’s birthday party for absolutely no reason whatsoever, I’d say that it is misplaced snark in this instance.

      • Spudalicious

        They are nonlethat, unless you have an underlying condition, or are otherwise compromised. Tasers are the Rona of tactical police weapons.

      • zwak

        I think a central problem here is that we keep looking for a Never Leathal answer, and there is no such thing.

      • Rhywun

        Doesn’t matter. The media have found a reason to pump up the riots for another couple weeks.

      • cyto

        Bonus… we can get another round when the arbitrator declares this to be a bad firing and orders him rehired with back pay. He probably has a pretty decent shot at recovering damages. The freaking Mayor went on TV and called him a murderer for crying out loud. She’s essentially the CEO of his employer.

      • Sean

        Defund the mayor!!!

      • Bob Boberson

        “About 30 minutes into the interaction, Rolfe tells Brooks that he believes he is too drunk to operate a motor vehicle and that he is being placed under arrest. As the officers begin to handcuff him, Brooks begins to struggle, knocking the bodycamera to the ground.”

        My brother is a cop and was a prison guard before that. He says that the vast majority of times someone ends up fighting its when the cuffs are being put on. I dunno but maybe the idea that a fully cooperative, compliant person should not always be put in restraints as a matter of procedure.

      • cyto

        On the other hand, I’m sure that there is a reason that this policy was instituted. There are probably plenty of counter-examples where compliant dude has time to think about it in the back of the car and then starts assaulting people, hands free.

        The “driving while black” narrative has taken such deep hold that some dude – a rapper I think – thought he’d win sympathy by posting video of him getting stopped by police. He apparently notifies them that he’s legally carrying. So the officer politely tells him “since you have a gun, we are going to do this the safe way. Here’s what we are going to do… I’m going to have you step out of the vehicle…”

        The guy refuses and keeps demanding that he call a supervisor to the scene. “Fine. We’ll do that. But first I need you to step out of the vehicle”. dude keeps refusing – cop pulls weapon and orders him out of the vehicle.

        Pretty clear to me… don’t refuse to comply with a lawful order. You aren’t negotiating with a coworker about who is going on the inside seat in the booth at Denny’s.

        Anyway…. apparently a clear example of racism.

        Someone should show him this example

        https://lasvegassun.com/news/2010/sep/23/officer-deadly-shooting-says-man-pointed-gun-didnt/

        Cop says “drop the gun”… when dude goes to drop the gun, cop kills him. But not racism, so nothing to see here.

      • Drake

        That sounds nice until I think about having a belligerent drunk in my car as I drive him to jail

      • Bob Boberson

        I get all the reasons why, but there is a psychological element and animalistic response to hearing those cuffs ‘click.’ I’m not necessarily saying it shouldn’t be protocol, just wondering out loud how often escalates rather than deescalates the encounter.

      • cyto

        Yup. I’m not sure there’s a good way around it. Don’t use restraints… risk having time to second guess things and trying to escape. Do use the restraints and the moment of finality is in the field where resistance can quickly escalate. There is definitely a primal fear about rendering yourself helpless by being restrained.

        Tying in to the corrections officer angle, this reaction is used in prisons as a punishment. They use “restraint chairs” and such to establish power and dominance over the reluctant or recalcitrant. So they would be much more familiar with this reaction than even a beat cop.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Why not zip ties?

      • LCDR_Fish

        I guess I should specify the zip tie restraints – we had those on deployment but also potentially for Navy deck watch overseas.

      • cyto

        I don’t think it is the metal cuff…. it is the act of being restrained. Zip ties would not change that dynamic.

  5. Count Potato

    “Fox News published digitally altered and misleading images on its website’s homepage Friday that made a demonstration in Seattle, in which a group of largely peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters have occupied six city blocks, appear violent and dangerous.”

    That’s some serious gaslighting.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      The Bundys were largely peaceful too when they were out in the middle of nowhere. And the left sent the Feds after them to kill them.

    • cyto

      Yeah, they’ve been running hard with it…. also heavily pushed on Twitter. The impression given is that reality coincides with the left-national narrative: There are no armed people at this peaceful protest. There is no vandalism. No laws are being broken. No one is being harmed. It is just an experiment in community policing.

      Fox news is faking the whole thing, at the orders of Trump.

  6. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Oh, we now need to rename “cotton.” But it’s white, therefore intrinsically problematic. What to do, what to do.

    Easy. We jump down , turn around…

  7. Tejicano

    OK, why the Eff does a fleaspeck of a village of less than 40k people need a god-damned SWAT team? Now that they’ve quit just defund the entire budget for that function.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s one of those “I hate everybody involved situations”

      • Tejicano

        However, in this case they are taking the first step towards the best outcome I would have asked for. Now we just need to follow up with the next obvious step.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Looting?

    • Spudalicious

      Gotta get that sweet gubmint grant money.

  8. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Letters to the Local Rag: Blessed Is He Who Hast Saved Us From Ourselves

    This is to let everyone know that Gov. Northam has done an excellent job, trying to handle the coronavirus situation. The disease is spread with large groups of people banded together, and this is what happens during a worship service. My own congregation has two services that each have more than 200 people, and one has 100 people. And you’re not 6 feet apart and between the chanting and the music, you could spread the disease to others around you

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      This is to let everyone know that Gov. Northam has done an excellent job, trying to handle the coronavirus situation.

      Pleasure yourself with a rusty farm implement.

      • Trials and Trippelations

        Ugg I was looking for something on Gov Cooper’s twitter feed and read the comments ?
        People are so far up his asshole they run the risk of being accused of wearing “brownface”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      By day’s end, the gathering had not resulted in any destruction or violence, and though tensions flared at times, the scene was largely calm. It may have been triggered, at least in part, by a social media dustup.

      West Passyunk resident James Gitto, 29, said that he sent several tweets this week calling for the removal of Christopher Columbus tributes across the city, and that the tweets were apparently shared on Facebook by Philadelphians proud of the Italian explorer.

      By midnight Friday, Gitto said, “my phone started going off” with notifications — people sending him expletive-laden emails, telling him they were “watching” him, calling him a “snowflake” on Twitter, and writing negative reviews of his dog-grooming business on Yelp.

      The funny part is that guy got a degree to run a dog-grooming business. https://whyy.org/person/james-gitto/

      • Rhywun

        The funny part is he’s whining to the media about a situation he brought on himself.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Seriously.

      • R C Dean

        “writing negative reviews of his dog-grooming business on Yelp.“

        The other stuff, sure, but c’mon people. Leave the man’s livelihood alone.

  9. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Letters to the Local Rag: He’s Probably Smoking Crack In A Mexican Brothel By Now

    Missing: I had a cute little ornament that goes on my antenna. I just got him. He’s only sunshine with glasses, red glasses. I had him only one day. The poor little thing is missing, and I’m sure he wants to come home. I was out riding, and he disappeared. Call 220-8192 if you’ve seen him, please do. I miss him already. He’s only been here one day. Thank you.

  10. cyto

    CNN, in an appeal to cooler heads, is running this headline among their top stories:

    Rayshard Brooks was killed a day before he planned to celebrate his daughter’s birthday

    The lede:

    Rayshard Brooks’ 8-year-old daughter had her birthday dress on Saturday morning waiting for her dad to come pick her up and take her skating to celebrate her birthday, family attorneys say.

    Her dad never came home. He was shot and killed by an Atlanta police officer at a Wendy’s parking lot in Atlanta Friday night. Since then, the officer who shot Brooks was terminated and a second officer was placed on administrative leave. The Atlanta police chief stepped down from her position.

    This is excellent reporting in a time of great tension and social unrest. CNN is taking great lengths to ensure that no one gets the wrong impression about anything that might lead to violence.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I really can’t wait for them to finish burning CNN down.

    • Agent Cooper

      You know who else celebrated birthdays?

  11. Ted S.

    Oh, we now need to rename “cotton.” But it’s white, therefore intrinsically problematic. What to do, what to do.

    The banality of weevils.

    • l0b0t

      That was fantastic wordplay, Ted. Also, happy birthday!

  12. Fourscore

    Best movie scene, The Big Country, Burl Ives, sitting on his horse, levels his double barrel shotgun and pulls both triggers. His adversary is blasted, BLASTED, off his horse. I think that would actually happen at very close range. Maybe not but it was very impressive to me. Its stuck in my mind for 60 years, that’s how impressive it was.

    • cyto

      Fodder for a mythbusters episode.

      Hint: If you are holding the gun and fire the weapon, the recoil you feel cannot be less than the force transmitted to the target by the projectile.

      (note: when I fired my first 4-10 and didn’t hold the butt of the gun tight enough against my shoulder, I felt the possibility of being thrown from a horse. I also learned that following instructions “mostly, pretty close” isn’t nearly good enough)

      • Chipping Pioneer

        Burl Ives was a larger guy. What if his adversary was a midget?

      • cyto

        Good point! If he had a small cannon that shoots 4 pound loads…..

      • Tres Cool

        You mean like Peter North ?

      • cyto

        Aaaaand…. that’s the end of that thread.

    • Drake

      There was a scene in a Larry McMurty book where a drunk shot a mule in the belly with both barrels of an 8 gauge shotgun – breaking his own shoulder in the process.

  13. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Letters to the Local Rag: It’s A Trap

    Yes, if there’s any one out there that has pecans free, I’d like to acquire any excess of pecans for purchase or donation for my sanctuary out in Croaker. I’d appreciate it. Call me at 566-3350. Thank you.

    • Fourscore

      “Free the Pecans”

    • Chipping Pioneer

      Sanctuary for what?

      • Drake

        Nut-finished hogs.

    • straffinrun

      Pizzagate has morphed into Pecangate.

  14. westernsloper

    Fox News publishes digitally altered and misleading images of Seattle demonstrations

    NPR just did a story on how it is totes peaceful and the armed folks are really just 2nd amendment supporters. Even interviewed a business owner who is happy they are there and glad for the business. At least that was my first take when not listening too well. I am sure I will hear it again.

    • cyto

      Yeah… they guy who has an armed mob outside his business is totally excited to have them there! On camera! And totally not making hostage eyes at you while you are filming!

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I own a business and if I saw a mob like that outside my place I’d be wary.

        Either they’re lying or that owner is an idiot and a useful idiot.

      • cyto

        Exactly. What is he going to say?

        “These people are a violent mob and I demand that the police come and arrest them!”

        Live, on national TV. Sure.

        I wouldn’t even let the local teens know that I called the cops if they were spray painting their names on the neighborhood sign. And that would probably just get my pool fence slashed.

      • Animal

        Watch to see if he’s blinking Morse code for “T-O-R-T-U-R-E.”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      The first murder will be blamed on white supremacists. Mark my words.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      They really seem to like guns when the right people (to them) have them. They aren’t anti-gun as long as you have the correct ideological alignment, same as their view of free speech.

    • Cy

      Every time you link her… I click. I know my company has blocked the page, but someday, I might get through.

      • Bob Boberson

        you aren’t missing anything

      • zwak

        No, he is missing a…

        (puts on sunglasses)

        Ton.

  15. westernsloper

    Not sure what I think of Old Guy Music today. A bit jazzy for my taste.

    Obligitory Sunday music.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “It is not the first time that Trump has used two hands to sip from a cup of water“

      He’s old and his hands probably shake a little bit. Not a big deal really.

      • cyto

        This has been extensively shared on Twitter.

        If you watch the video – the description isn’t even close to accurate either. They talk about “hands shaking uncontrollably” and “struggling to lift a cup”. This is proof of severe neurological degeneration. Based on the description I pictured him trying to get the cup off the table and after a couple of tries, using two hands to lift the cup like a 3 year old would.

        Then you watch the video… he quickly lifts a cup, uses his other hand on the bottom in tipping it slightly to take a sip off the top of what must be a quite full cup and quickly puts it down.

        They are desperate to counter the “Joe Biden has dementia” narrative. But Joe’s campaign isn’t helping. YouTube pushed a Biden for President ad to me the other day. It featured Biden speaking from his basement – bookshelves in the background. He stumbles over “Hi, this is Joe Biden”. He stumbles a couple of other times. This is a paid advertisement, not a live speech. So the best they could get in multiple takes was a shakey-voiced old man who couldn’t even get his name out without fumbling a bit.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I just saw that Biden ad.

        He’s gone. There’s no way he can handle a live engagement for any length of time.

        The only question is who they will replace him with after they shut Bernie out at the convention.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Where is it, YouTube or his campaign site?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s popping up on Youtube. I don’t know if there’s a dedicated link to it anywhere,

      • cyto

        I think everyone involved sees this as their path to the white house. A last minute replacement for health reasons, a compliant press willing to push a narrative and avoid any vetting of the candidate… a nation tired of division…

        CNN clearly favors Cuomo for the job. The moment calls for a black female replacement. The “base” appears to be calling for a black trans female replacement.

        Who knows which way they will go?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        All Trump would have to do with Cuomo is trot out people whose elderly parents died in nursing homes that Andrew forced carriers into,

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That said, Cuomo is more tolerable than the other lunatics the Dems are floating.

      • Overt

        The unfortunate fact is that Cuomo looks authoritative when he speaks. People respect that. They love a person who takes control- that is part of the reason Trump does so well. His presence commands authority.

        There will be thousands of reporters running interference for Cuomo. After all, a lot of people died in nursing homes, but that wouldn’t have started without Trump fucking up, right? And actually only 20% of deaths came from nursing homes, so that shows how GOOD he did. Right? Right?

        (These are all bullshit statistics. But that won’t stop the reporters and the “fact checkers” from publishing them.)

        I’m kind of interested to find out when they are going to pull the trigger here. I think their preference is to wait until after the GOP convention, so that Trump spends his speech tearing down Biden only to have someone switch it up. But unfortunately, for dems, their convention is a week before the GOP. So they need to have something come up that requires them to delay the convention by 2 weeks.

      • Count Potato

        “That said, Cuomo is more tolerable than the other lunatics the Dems are floating.”

        That doesn’t say much for their bullpen.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Here come the “psychiatrists.”

      Funny how they’re not around for Biden.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        A shrink isn’t needed to correctly deduce that Biden is in the early stages of dementia. He’s just a placeholder for the eventual elevation of his VP at this point.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder
  16. BakedPenguin

    Rename cotton? Bold move, let’s see if it pays off.

    • westernsloper

      What name would you pick?

    • PieInTheSky

      Call it Bum Back

    • blackjack

      Whatever name he picks, they’ll be sure to write a puff piece about the choice.

    • Ownbestenemy

      +1 Dodgeball

  17. Rhywun

    Barbara Fedida, a senior ABC News executive in charge of talent, is on administrative leave after a HuffPost report that detailed an alleged extensive history of making racist remarks and allegedly fostering and enabling a toxic and abusive workplace.

    If only she had stuck to struggle sessions for white people there would have no problem.

  18. Sensei

    Thanks to CCP Virus – I’m working from home for the foreseeable future. This required an upgrade to my 10+ year old monitor.

    I have a dual screen at the office, but much prefer single panel, plus I like to game at home. So I splurged and got widescreen – 3400 x 1400. Can definitely recommend over a dual 1080 setup. The extra vertical resolution is great and text isn’t too small for my aging eyes. However, two 1080 panels are much cheaper.

    It’s going to take me a while to figure out how to utilize all the real estate.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Wide screen format hentai.

      Or 83 simultaneous browser tabs.

      • Sensei

        Funny enough this is the current wallpaper I’m using.

        It isn’t labeled, but it is this famous temple.

  19. Count Potato

    “This beautiful Black girl was walking through a park with her mom when a patrol car pulled up. Fearful, she immediately put her hands up and cried. Turns out the officer just wanted to greet her. It’s so heartbreaking how traumatized our babies are
    Crying face Broken heart #BlackLivesMatter”

    https://twitter.com/flywithkamala/status/1271278102908469248

    Kamala stans are the worst.

    • cyto

      PassionDrivestheDream
      @passionflower92
      ·
      Jun 12
      Replying to
      @flywithkamala
      Omg! That’s about heartbreaking how scared she is. I get the intent of the officer but read the cues and clues of this young girl. She is severely traumatized. She is crying. She is shaking. Her body is all tensed up. Leave that beautiful baby girl alone

      Yes, whatever you do, never speak to black children!

      Good job #BLM! You’ve successfully minted another generation of racists! Just when you thought we were about to be clear of this nonsense….

      • Rhywun

        She is severely traumatized.

        By her parents, most likely.

      • Count Potato

        This.

      • cyto

        I think that counts as racist….

      • mexican sharpshooter

        The word “this“?

        “This” is cancelled now?

      • cyto

        You used scare quotes. Clearly evidence of alt-right neo-nazi affiliation.

    • straffinrun

      Torn on this one. People should teach their kids what the essence of the state is. That every law is ultimately enforced through violence. That being said, the kid is way too young and has clearly been freaked out by what she’s been taught.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Yes

        That’s not going to stop them from creating thoughtcrimes though.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Like how we conditioned people to be fearful of the virus.

      2020 is the year irrationalism took over.

    • Animal

      “Shit that never happened for $500, Alex.”

  20. PieInTheSky

    Not only every statue of Columbus should be removed, but so should Columbus Ohio. Raze it to the ground.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’m not going to disagree with you on that one.

      • BakedPenguin

        Lansing, MI totally agrees with you.

      • Gender Traitor

        Ann Arbor even more so.

      • BakedPenguin

        Aah, crap. I forgot where the Universities were.

        Thx, GT.

      • Gender Traitor

        ::pats BP on the head, gives him a quick peck on the (facial) cheek::

    • R C Dean

      You know where else was named after Columbus?

      • Tundra

        *snorts line*

        No, where?

      • Gender Traitor

        CBS?

      • westernsloper

        Columbus Nebraska?

      • mexican sharpshooter

        British Columbia?

  21. The Late P Brooks

    We’re gonna need some pretty big loopholes in that anti-lynching law.

  22. Rufus the Monocled

    These airing of internal squabbles in media are interesting. The NYT had an editorial retard fight, this ABC exec, and one of the most ‘beloved’ anchors from the CBC (who is married to another left-wing hack anchor – aren’t they all?- people love Peter Mansbridge) Wendy Mesley. Pretty sickening my TAX dollars go to this left-wing public broadcaster. Make no mistake about it, it’s run by a Marxist-sympathizing lunatic.

    On the one side, I rather enjoy watching the left eat its own. Mesley is also the one who conducted that awful ‘Cathy Newmanesque’ interview with Jordan Peterson a couple of years back. He warned people about all this craziness and they didn’t listen and now Mesley is out. Just like that. You can build a life of good will tokens but you stray or deviate one inch and you’re GONE.

    But in the bigger context of things, people shouldn’t be losing their jobs in this manner; for having an opinion or in the case of Mesley, something so mundane and innocuous. This is a trend that threatens to leave behind an ugly culture of censorship and cancel culture. If media people are acting this way, can you imagine what they’re doing with the news that eventually comes to the viewers or readers?

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/wendy-mesley-suspended-hosting-1.5604973

    • Gustave Lytton

      During a recent discussion on anti-Black racism on Power & Politics, Day likened the discrimination faced by visible minorities across Canada to the bullying he endured as a child.

      “Should I have gone through school and been mocked because I had glasses and was called four-eyes and because of the occupation of my parents?” Day said. “No, of course not. But are Canadians largely and in majority racist? No, we are not.”

      Day stepped down from his role as a commentator on Power & Politics and left senior positions at two major companies shortly after.

      How dare he suggest that Canadians aren’t racists!

      • cyto

        I do not blame the PC police for this sort of situation. I blame everyone else. Pretending that these are serious allegations that deserve serious investigation and serious consequences is the problem, not the fact that some ultra-progressive would-be Stasi secret police type whines about it. Every single person who didn’t laugh in their face deserves a slice of blame.

      • RAHeinlein

        Agreed. The cries of “systemic racism” during the Democrat debates was a shocker and should have served as a warning.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Everybody looked at Chick-Fil-A and how they handle controversy and learned absolutely nothing.

      • Overt

        It has been sad watching this happen over the past 15 years, but at my company, it was over before it began. A CEO is convinced by some marketing team that they should hire a Diversity Czar. As soon as that person is hired, it is all over. That person usually reports directly to the CEO, so any concern you voice is going to be overruled. They begin organizing all the diversity groups at the company- Black Awareness for Developers and Latin American Family and what not. Before a year is out, you have an alphabet soup of “Diversity Panels”.

        But what has really happened is that the Diversity Czar has organized every single radical in your company. They are trained- in the name of diversity- how to spot and report harassment in the work place. And god damn, if that harassment isn’t often questioning things like reparations, abolishment of white supremacist capitalism, and the like. There is nothing that you can do to stop them. And in fact the COMPANY cannot do anything to stop them at this point. To disband this group, or target one of its members who is out of control, will be considered bad PR at first, and then creating a toxic environment a bit later on, and then RETALIATION once the diversity groups have started weaponizing the reporting process.

        Essentially- at least within the tech industry- the diversity craze has unionized the corporations. Instead of threatening a strike, the Grievance Panels just threaten to fire any poor bastard who doesn’t endorse their world view. If you are a rank employee who doesn’t support their agenda, you are out. If you are a VP or Director who questions whether this is a good use of company resources, you will be dragged through linkedIn, facebook, twitter, etc until you are unemployable.

      • Gustave Lytton

        ^^^^

      • Rhywun

        That’s depressing.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Same thing with lobbyists. Whether internal employees or external contractors, they will never work towards completely lifting the government yoke off of the company. At best, they will get limited easing or hobble competitors and get carveouts.

    • Raven Nation

      There’s some vague parallels to 17th century witchcraft.

      Back then, if you acknowledged you were a witch, it was a sign of God’s grace and you could be rehabilitated. If you continued to deny you were a witch, then you were eternally lost and were executed.

    • Bob Boberson

      ^This^ exactly. I wasn’t outraged when SC decided to stop flying the stars & bars outside the state capitol. I don’t care if a group wants to get together and petition to have a statue of Davis or Lee removed.

      I do care that the mob is ripping these things down with impunity. I do care that people with attachments to such symbols are being pushed from the sphere of civil discourse. I do care that that the Donkeys and their corporate media lapdogs are using as a tool to bludgeon their rivals.

      And we know what this about. It’s Year-0 shit that most sheeple are blissfully unaware of.

    • Sean

      I feel like clicking on that link just put me on another list. ?

      • slumbrew

        Same. Dammit, I clicked.

      • Q Continuum

        I really want to give money but talk about being on a list…

    • Mojeaux

      Dominique > Dagny. Don’t @ me.

      • cyto

        Sounds like a good name for the 90’s parody porn:

        Dagny and Stacy.

  23. Tundra

    Good morning, Old Man!

    And a good morning to the rest of Ye Olde Liberty Freak Show! Now, more than ever, bringing hope to the oppressed and downtrodden!

    *reads links*

    Aw, fuck it. Those people can figure it out on their own. Fools.

    I’m not a jazz guy, but I always listen to your songs and do a little research on the artist. They all seem to have interesting (usually tragic) lives. Almost fictional at times.

    Here’s my Sunday morning contribution: Blue Sky

    Have a wonderful day, people!

    • Rhywun
    • mexican sharpshooter

      $10. Like American money backed by the full faith in the US government? You’d think anarchists would use something else for money,

    • cyto

      ” you have to think really critically about – in the future, are you going to actually give up power and land and capital when you have it?”

      They have been studying African reconciliation commissions and land repatriation movements. They think they are going to force white people to give their land to black people now, along with cash.

  24. Q Continuum

    BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT!

    • Tundra

      Doesn’t matter.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    I don’t really care about the statues, but I do care that the commies are trying to erase history and their whole cancel culture bit.

    IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

    • westernsloper

      That’s my motto!

      • R C Dean

        Strong like bull?

    • Q Continuum

      Arrested? They should be shot on sight!

    • Bob Boberson

      Seems to me there are plenty of Brits that are just fine with the idea that people should be locked in a cage for ungoodthink.

    • westernsloper

      *looks at 3’s Chive page*

      She looks crazy af and I am ok with that.

      *looks at 40’s page*

      Oh my.

    • DEG

      #1, #12, and #15 have appeared in other galleries Q has posted. I recommend their iChive galleries.

      Overall, pretty good.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    Doomsday larping

    Perhaps most important, it is now difficult to imagine that anybody could muster the political will to impose a full-scale lockdown for a second time. As one poll in Pennsylvania found, nearly nine out of 10 Republicans trusted “the information you hear about coronavirus from medical experts” back in April. Now just about one in three does. With public opinion more polarized than it was a few months ago, and the presidential election looming, any attempt to deal with a resurgence of the virus is likely to be even more haphazard, contentious, and ineffective than it was the first time around.

    In the fullness of time, many books will be written about why a country as rich, powerful, and scientifically advanced as the United States failed quite so badly at coping with a public-health emergency that experts had predicted for many years. As is always the case, competing explanations will quickly emerge. Some will focus on the incompetence of the Trump administration, while others will draw attention to the country’s loss of state capacity; some will argue that the United States is an outlier, while others will put its failure in the context of other countries, such as Brazil and Russia, that are also faring poorly.

    The credibility of “medical experts” has declined?!

    Just wait ’til Plague-aloo! Two. You’ll see. Every man, woman and child will die a horrible death, as God’s dread retribution for the 2016 election.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Experts are experts in experting.

      Don’t you expert?

    • Q Continuum

      “nine out of 10 Republicans trusted “the information you hear about coronavirus from medical experts” back in April. Now just about one in three does”

      I know The Atlantic is unfamiliar with the concept, but that’s called “learning”. It’s when people assimilate new information to draw new conclusions.

      • RAHeinlein

        Those white boomers will believe anything – a Buzzfeed article just popped-up on my news feed about how those ignorant red-state rural types feel for the Antifa hoax!

      • Naptown Bill

        One doesn’t *learn*, one’s position *evolves* over time to maintain consistency with the platform. This idea that you change your mind on the basis of new input or “facts” or “logic” is typical Eurocentric colonialist white privilege.

    • Timeloose

      I keep hearing about the US COViD response and how it resulted in much worse outcomes compared to the rest of the world. But every per-capita infection, hospitalization, and death rate is similar to most or the EU.

      Germany had a lower death rate, but they require a true cause of death be identified compared to the US that incentivized making Covid-19 a cause of death where ever possible.

      • Naptown Bill

        Now do UK vs US gun-related homicide rates.

      • Viking1865

        That’s always my favorite thing to get in arguments with the gun grabbers about.

        “The UK has lower gun crime rate!!!”

        “They have higher violent crime rates across the board, except for murder.”

        “But lower gun crime rate!”

        “They should have zero gun crimes, since guns are fucking banned. There should not be a single handgun murder across the whole of the British isles.”

        “Well people still smuggle them in.”

        “Yes. Yes they do. So now the people who can get guns are people willing to break the law. Not innocent homeowners, women trying to avoid being raped, business owners dealing with cash receipts.”

        “Well nothings perfect.”

        “Thats not what they said when they banned it. They said it would eliminate gun crime.”

      • Naptown Bill

        Dead thread, but still. The UK also doesn’t report something as a homicide unless a conviction is made, whereas the US reports a homicide if the coroner writes it up as such. So, unsolved murders in the UK aren’t recorded as homicides.

      • Viking1865

        Yep. There’s a year, I forget which one it is, where a serial killer confessed to ~50 or so murders……which then all got tabulated in that year. So statistically, the murder rate skyrocketed that year, and then dropped dramatically the next year.

      • Rhywun

        many books will be written about why a country region as rich, powerful, and scientifically advanced as the United States Tri-State Area failed quite so badly at coping with a public-health emergency

        Edited for accuracy.

      • Rhywun

        *Also meant to insert “not” between “will” and “be”.

  27. Q Continuum

    Since there’s now controversy over PoC is outdated and what the newspeak terms for the downtrodden, oppressed masses should be, I propose the following:

    Goods: those who aren’t Bads; Bads: wypipo.

    These, of course, will be the urban “street” terms, for upper crust intelligent betters “Goods” is replaced with “Humans” and “Bads” is replaced with “Subhumans”.

    • PieInTheSky

      lol

    • westernsloper

      Ha!

    • TARDIS

      *multiple giggles*

    • Drake

      The hero we need right now.

    • Hyperion

      LOL, now that there is funny, I don’t care who you are. Maybe not for Crissy Poo.

  28. Naptown Bill

    STENY FUCKING HOYER.

    /fixes “dry” bloody Mary, scowls into middle distance

  29. The Late P Brooks

    And there’s this:

    If the virus wins, it may also be because the right-wing-media echo chamber is starting to downplay the risk that a second wave poses to Americans.

    If the virus does win, then, it is because American elites, experts, and institutions have fallen short—and continue to fall short—of the grave responsibility with which they are entrusted in ways too innumerable to list.

    That damn right wing media echo chamber is at it again!

    Why has no Great Man risen to save us? The personality cultists need somebody to worship.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      What, pray tell, is the virus winning?

      God help us, if we ever get a real pandemic with death rates in the teens or higher. We’re going to completely lose it.

      • Plinker762

        I welcome our new virus overlords.

    • Drake

      Given the alternatives right now, I’m hoping the virus wins.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Skateboards apart to be Antifa’s tool of choice.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Appear

    • cyto

      CNN heavily covers every time their teams become part of the story. They are just happy to spin it in a way that it is the Trump/Right that is responsible, even if only indirectly. This is what they did in the initial riots downtown at their office when it was quite apparent that the crowd was specifically targeting the CNN offices. They were overjoyed when their reporter managed to get arrested for refusing an order to leave the area.

      And now this… heavily covered on CNN as “our reporter was attacked”….. with neutral descriptions of the parties involved – no hint that they are far-left activists intentionally targeting CNN.

      They really think that by inciting this riot they are in charge. They don’t seem to understand that lighting forest fires doesn’t work that way. Fire burns wherever it wants, not where you hope it will.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Reminds me. I gotta make coffee and light the pile. Burn season ends tomorrow.

  30. PieInTheSky

    there was supposed to be further covid relaxing next week bit the new case numbers last to day were suspiciously high. they better open the fucking gym again I need to stop gaining fat.

    • PieInTheSky

      yet he is still a leftie…

      • Q Continuum

        Plenty of Catholics stayed on the team even after finding out their leadership was covering for child rapists. People don’t leave a religion easily.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Thanks for that. I’ll be sharing.

  31. cyto

    On all of this running people out of their job because they said something stuff…. this has been coming for a long time.

    This started back in the 80’s with the advent of PC culture. By the time I was working at a university in the 90’s it was already official government policy. We were trained about sexual harassment by government representatives that taught that pretty much anything said to a woman could be considered sexual harassment. “I like your new hair cut” was an example of things you are not allowed to say to a woman. At that point, I knew that insane people were in charge – because it is an iron law – you must notice when a woman changes her hair, and you must complement it. Even if she shaves half her head and dies the rest kelly green and gets a jerry curl. “Oh! I love your new hairdo!” is the only socially acceptable response.

    So, here’s my contribution to the resistance. I had an employee that became one of those grievance creatures. One of the young kids on my team (right out of college) shared a cartoon that was mildly racially offensive. She took it directly to HR. I intercepted the move to fire the kid and had a sit-down with HR, kid and rabble-rousing mom. My own “coffee summit”. I pressed her on the fact that they had been friends for several months, went to lunch as a group fairly often and seemed to like each other just fine. She agreed…. “so what’s the real issue here? Are you really sure that he’s a secret racist who is plotting racist stuff behind your back? Or maybe is it just a joke that you find offensive? And maybe wouldn’t ‘Hey, I find that offensive’ be a better way to deal with another human being?”

    My own little push-back. She agreed and he bought her lunch that day.

    Of course…. she came back after me a year later. She brought up an issue with her daughter and I shared that my niece had gotten her period at 8 years old (!) in sympathy. She got super offended and took it to HR. (didn’t say anything in the moment, of course)

    I told HR that I was not dignifying any of that with a response. I told them that if anyone dared make any sort of issue of it, I’d happily defend my actions from the stand in court. They tried to start the “be more sensitive..” stuff a few times, and I cut them off every time. “I’m not wrong on this, not even a little bit. And I’ll happily say so in court.”

    My little push back. For all the good it did.

    If everyone would just bend when you should bend, but grow a spine when you shouldn’t bend, we’d be just fine and none of this would ever happen. But you bow and scrape and apologize for stuff that should not be apologized for and this is what you get. People getting fired for saying “All lives matter”.

    • creech

      Cyto, you’re just the kind of person…that we need more of. Time to take a stance when your colleagues or your pastor or your friends or the local pols start in on collectivist, statist nonsense. We can no longer remain silent just to keep the peace.

      • Bob Boberson

        I wonder if we are getting to the point where taking any sort of stand will not be tolerated by HR and managers rarely have the spine to stand up for an employee, even when they know they are right, because they don’t want to get shitcanned along with them.

        All this PC shit has led up into the Post-logic era. Change my mind.

      • Rhywun

        All I know is I am never, ever talking to a coworker again about anything that isn’t specifically related to the job at hand.

      • Animal

        The project I’m on now, the department primarily responsible for producing documents is staffed largely by what I can only honestly call attractive young women. When I was in the office, I quietly let it be known that I would never, ever be alone in a room with any of these young women, not for a moment, not for a second, not under any circumstances. Knowing these people I doubt it would have been a problem, but the current social environment has forced me to abide by the Pence Rule.

        Now, what with the Kung Flu, I’ll be finishing up the next 18 months of the project 100% remote. The only woman I’m ever alone in a room with now is Mrs. Animal. That suits me right down to the ground.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I just finished having this talk with my wife. I think it will get worse before it gets better. The idea, for example, ‘math is racist’ or anything we’ve achieved is tied to a ‘colonial’ prism will have to go through some real world results before people wake up. In other words, the ‘diversity’ class in engineering and medicine will take us down a notch with terrible infrastructure and bad medical advice before we resume our path. I see this as a passing trend but for how long at what cost, I don’t know and is hard to determine.

        There’s no way in hell if the STEMS are now infiltrated with this madness there won’t be real world ramifications.

        I could be wrong.

      • Animal

        I could be wrong.

        I don’t think you are.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Yup. All it takes is pushback. Bullies need pushback. And HR is the bane on our existence.

      And that woman is a cunt.

      • cyto

        Took me 18 months to get rid of her. I had a department of 45 people. I fired her and one other person in 13 years. One dude I suggested find another job because he wasn’t up to my standards and didn’t seem to enjoy what he was doing. He eventually did. A few people left for more money elsewhere or other reasons – personal, etc. But very low turnover overall.

        You treat people like people and encourage their professional and personal success and you’ll have a loyal team… which makes for a pleasant day at work.

  32. Count Potato

    “In the coming days, we’ll be using our Twitter account to amplify Black voices. Because what’s the point of this big platform if we don’t use it for what matters during times like these?

    7:43 PM · Jun 3, 2020”

    https://twitter.com/Wendys/status/1268327435206111232

    So how’s that working out for you?

  33. DEG

    Reports on Saturday evening said a rocket had landed near Camp Taji, a large base in Iraq that has housed US-led coalition personnel. Iraq’s Security Media Cell confirmed the attack and said two rockets had struck the base and caused limited damage. It comes in the context of US-Iraq strategic dialogue and tensions between the US and Iran.

    Fake news. Obama ended the war in Iraq.

    Fedida told Roberts, who is Black, that it wasn’t as if the network was asking her to “pick cotton” after Roberts had asked for more money as part of her contract, according to a source that was in the room during the exchange, according to HuffPost.

    I love when they eat their own.

    “A FoxNews.com home page photo collage which originally accompanied this story included multiple scenes from Seattle’s ‘Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone’ and of wreckage following recent riots,” the note read. “The collage did not clearly delineate between these images, and has since been replaced. In addition, a recent slideshow depicting scenes from Seattle mistakenly included a picture from St. Paul. Fox News regrets these errors.”

    FoxNews figures out Fake News is lucrative.

    Anti-racism protesters in Paris today shout “Dirty Jews!”

    Nice.

    City Manager Greg Chavarria reported that while the officers have stepped down from the SWAT team, they have not resigned from the police department.

    Pensions Über Alles!

    Shields’ resignation follows an outcry over the Friday night death of Rayshard Brooks. A police officer shot the 27-year-old after Brooks ran away with an officer’s Taser and pointed it at police following a scuffle, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation said. Police had been called after Brooks was found asleep in a car at a Wendy’s drive-through. The GBI said officers attempted to arrest him when Brooks failed a sobriety test.

    Sounds like assholes all around.

    A fire broke out inside the Wendy’s restaurant in Atlanta where a black man was shot and killed by a police officer and where protesters gathered throughout Saturday.

    Because it is obviously Wendy’s fault. Or, to put it another way… more assholes.

    Old Guy Music is pretty good today.

    • Bob Boberson

      I am so freaking disgusted with how this shit always works. The cops kill innocent people daily and every once in a while they kill someone in the public eye where they can’t control the narrative and outrage ensues. For 2 seconds the conversation is about reigning in the American Gestapo but then is immediately hijacked by BLM, the corporate media an the democrats and famed as “Black Bodies oppressed, Wypipo bad.” BLM takes to the streets, they and their allies act like animals, with cover from said media and the left-wing. Right-wingers react, dig their heels in and default to felicitating cops.

      And nothing else happens. It’s as predictable as the sunrise.

    • PieInTheSky

      well if it is a sponge gay has no meaning

      • westernsloper

        “Sponge worthy” gets a new meaning.

      • blackjack

        I’m just trying to absorb this information.

      • Count Potato

        You seem a bit salty.

      • Incentives Matter

        I wonder if Nickelodeon can wring any more SJW nonsense out of this?

    • Bob Boberson

      It was only a matter of time. Always Sunny flew under the radar of the PC harpies for longer than I expected.

    • cyto

      When they come after Eddie Murphy for wearing “whiteface”, then you’ll know we’ve reached peak derp.

      • Bob Boberson

        Nah, that would be them applying their own standards consistently, which isn’t something they do.

    • Bob Boberson

      Thats a great article with a lot to consider. That really helped me contextualize why it seems to be well-off white progressives driving the movement.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    If everyone would just bend when you should bend, but grow a spine when you shouldn’t bend, we’d be just fine and none of this would ever happen. But you bow and scrape and apologize for stuff that should not be apologized for and this is what you get. People getting fired for saying “All lives matter”.

    “Live and let live” only works if it’s a two way street.

    A lot of people haven’t figured that out.

    • Donation Not Taxation

      The Late P Brooks, ‘“Live and let live” only works if it’s a two way street.’
      Bullying by victimization. The ratchet only goes one way. ‘Compromise’ with only one side making concessions.
      When it is working for them, why should they make concessions? Or even respect the other sides’ beliefs and principles?

  35. Gustave Lytton

    How before calls to rename the Columbia River? Or DC?

    • PieInTheSky

      should Colombia be renamed Western Venezuela or Norther Ecuador? Maybe Southern Panama?

    • Gender Traitor

      Or Columbia University?

      • PieInTheSky

        Rename that Venezuela University as well.

    • Drake

      I already call it “The Imperial Capital”.

    • Hyperion

      I think DC should be renamed to Panem, immediately.

      I just want to know after the great book purge coming soon, who are they going to replace Columbus with for discovering the New World? Yeah, I get it, the people who really discovered the New World came from somewhere in Northeast Asia around 20,000 years ago.

      No one ever said that Columbus discovered North America, just that he was the first person from the old world to make it here. But since we have to remove him, I guess white devils just mysteriously appeared here using some racist voodoo magik stuff.

      Then we can start working on dismantling museums, starting with the Field Museum and all the Smithsonians. Then it’s time to remove all the crackers from science books, starting with the real racists, like Newton and Einstein. You know, because all of their science was racist science and not woke.

      We flew right past Idiocracy at light speed. It’s so stupid now, no one can even tell us where we are, but it’s ‘progress’ you know.

  36. Rufus the Monocled

    Know what’s an example of the soft bigotry of low expectations?

    When we don’t correct poor grammar or diction by blacks.

    E.g. It’s not AKSED. It’s ASKED.

    I see judges correct white people all the time as proper. But I notice they let is slide with blacks. Why?

    Too soon?

    • Hyperion

      I always hear it as ‘Axed’. Really it’s not nice to axe someone, sounds violent to me.

      I guess it’s difficult for some blacks to say asked, so I don’t have an issue with that. My wife still today, has a problem with words that end in double consonants, like world. It comes out like ‘wurl’. And she also has an issue with words like asked, it comes out something like ‘ask-ed’. She doesn’t realize she does it, she’ll remind me quickly, ‘I said asked!’ and say it right, but the next time, it’s back to ‘ask-ed’.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        If it’s something along those lines so be it but now sure about that because some of the most articulate people on fricken youtube are black personalities. Colton Noir, Elders, Tatum etc. I just found it interesting. I hope it’s because of that and I’m just ignorant of it.

        But if it was because there’s some ugly under current of ‘eh, they’re black’ (which I doubt. Unless it’s a Democrat of course…Booya!) that does a disservice.

    • westernsloper

      Dude, that was unnecessary.