Tuesday Wednesday Morning Links

by | Jun 24, 2020 | Daily Links | 557 comments

Every stadium will look like Tampa’s.

That NASCAR noose wasn’t noose. Although that doesn’t mean stupidity is anything other than stupidity. Oh wait, there’s also the possibility stupidity is actually mendacity. Looks like there will be baseball after all this year. I so hope someone bats .400 this year so writers can bitch about it. Spuds beat West Ham and Brighton drew Leicester. Five more EPL games on tap for today. And that’s sports.

The Lollipop Guild’s new community outreach program getting results.

Writer Ambrose Bierce was born on this day. He shares it with sociopathic British general Horatio Kitchener, boxer Jack Dempsey, basketball player and shoe salesman Chuck Taylor, TV’s Al Molinaro, guitar great Jeff Beck, drummer Mick Fleetwood, scumbag midget fuck Robert Reich, “Robocop” Peter Weller, keyboardist extraordinaire Patrick Moraz, and (arguably the best) soccer player (in the world) Lionel Messi.

That was a solid list, for a change. And now…the links!

“DILLIGAF?”

Oh no! You mean politics plays a role in what prosecutors choose to pursue and not pursue? Stop the presses! I wonder if this is the same thing as, gee I don’t know, the last admin saying they won’t prosecute pot crime in states where pot is legal even though it’s a federal law? Nah, that was totally different…because orangemanbad or something.

I assume this tv personality won’t lose his job. Hell, he’ll probably wind up with an Emmy or something.

Fired?!?! Dude needs to be prosecuted, not just fired. Because when you violate a “policy” on the use of deadly force you’ve…murdered someone.

Apple, meet orange. Do these people even know what an apartheid state is? Because it usually doesn’t mean “everybody inside this territory have the same rights”, which is what is happening here.  Also, stop shooting rockets at schools.

Will he lead the first cavalry charge?

I have a solution to this: Just pull our troops out. It’s not like that little psychopath has a boat that can get across the Pacific.

I hope nobody tweeted that these “peaceful” people will be met with force. I’d hate to see the tweet get blocked. Also, it has officially become a mob with no real motivations beyond causing mass mayhem now. Oh wait, it was that two weeks ago, for the most part. Man, you’d almost have expected the people concerned solely with equality to have spoken out against the wanton violence by now. After all, staying silent is offering support to the bad guys, isn’t it?

The Hedgehog is in some legal trouble. As outspoken as he is, this will be an interesting case.

Well done, Apple. Now get rid of the bullshit Corona tracking firmware you have to manually turn off. (I may be using the term “firmware” incorrectly. I’m not a computer person. But they definitely put an update in their iOS that tracks you for Corona that has to be manually deactivated…and it probably doesn’t really deactivate it.)

Stop dreaming of the quiet life. Ha, I did that weeks ago. But you can start now with this great song.

Now have a wonderful day, friends!

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557 Comments

  1. Rebel Scum

    Looks like there will be baseball after all this year.

    *Yawn*

    I guess the whiny little bitch players finally came to an agreement?

    • WTF

      Oh great a 60-game ‘asterisk’ season that will be completely pointless, not to mention weird without fans in the stands.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        What if we all find out that 60 games is enough baseball?

      • WTF

        Or that we can even get along fine without it?

      • Certified Public Asshat

        As an Orioles fan, this is true.

      • juris imprudent

        I have heard that they lost a season due to a strike. Who knew?

      • TARDIS

        I demand that we have baseball. The county jacked up my property taxes to buy some rich wealthy dude(s) a new stadium so rich people wouldn’t have to drive through Shitlanta to see overpaid whiners play a game that requires copious amounts of beer to be interesting.

      • pan fried wylie

        Nobody needs more than 23 baseball.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Yep. Little League season. Maybe everyone gets a trophy at the end?

  2. UnCivilServant

    (I may be using the term “firmware” incorrectly. I’m not a computer person. But they definitely put an update in their iOS that tracks you for Corona that has to be manually deactivated…and it probably doesn’t really deactivate it.)

    You have to use a hammer to deactivate it. Note – deactivating coronatrack9000 may void your warranty.

  3. Swiss Servator

    Best way to deactivate Apple tracking? Get rid of your Apple products.

    Imma sneak this in here and run off cackling.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      YEAH!

      *checks Google tracking device for texts*

      • UnCivilServant

        I’ve taken to leaving my phones at home when I go out.

    • sloopyinca

      What part of “30” do they not understand?

      • sloopyinca

        It’s akin to many popular charities (Susan Komen, I’m looking at you) spending just a fraction of what they take in on the actual cause they’re ostensibly supporting.

        I’d venture to say this is commonplace in higher ed endowments.

        Also, #cancelYale, #cancelGeorgetown, #cancelHarvard, #cancelRice

      • juris imprudent

        Priorities – those education bureaucrat dicks won’t suck themselves.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Because my Android would never track me………..

    • R C Dean

      The default on the tracker is “off” for what that’s worth.

      It’s a very, very low bar, but I trust Apple more than Android/Google.

      • banginglc1

        I ordered an iphone a few days ago and am switching to it today precisely because I want to de-googlefy my life. I don’t trust either, but I think apple is currently ahead on privacy.

    • EvilSheldon

      Everybody here carries a Faraday bag, right? Right?

    • Mojeaux

      Android has it too. Works with location and bluetooth turned on IF you opt in.

      All that above? Means nada. They’ll track you if they fucking well please.

      • TARDIS

        I’ve already killed 9 people with boredom.

      • Mojeaux

        My car doesn’t have bluetooth capability (2006). So I have a bluetooth amplifier thingie that broadcasts to a blank frequency on my radio. That’s the only time I use bluetooth. I rarely ever have location services on at all.

      • TARDIS

        The phone company still knows approximately where you’ve been.

      • Mojeaux

        Yep. That’s why I said nothing you do to your phone to stay out of sight matters a whit.

        Even if it makes a little harder to track me, then I don’t feel entirely surveilled.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        By approximately, it’s usually within a couple hundred feet. Not quite GPS quality, but close enough for any nefarious purpose.

  4. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Ron is looking pretty rough.

    I met him back in the late 90’s in an LA hotel lobby. He was hanging with some very heroin-addled buddies.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Did he take “it” out?

      • Rhywun

        I think it moved.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Nah, but he was pretty friendly. A surprising number of people were asking him for autographs.

  5. Rhywun

    But they definitely put an update in their iOS that tracks you for Corona that has to be manually deactivated

    Not quite. It is not active unless you install third-party tracking software, and even then it is inactive by default.

    Same as Android.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      FINALLY some one has good news in 2020.

    • pan fried wylie

      Since they both require a software pkg, why is the OS involved at all? Because we all love when configuration shit resides in two locations?

      You want a coronatracker, install it and give it insane, excessively broad permissions, like every other app.

      galaxy7 was my first smartphone, and is likely to be my last. Cost as much as a laptop, a fraction of the utility, and only slightly more portable.

  6. The Late P Brooks

    Watching some skype interview on the news this morning, I was looking at the props on the wall behind the interviewee instead of listening. There was a picture behind her which absolutely screamed “I’m WOKE. Black Lives Matter to ME.”

    So, of course, I began to consider what I would want on the wall in the background, if I ever found myself in such a situation.

    I want this

    • Festus' Mustache

      Harsh but fair…

    • WTF

      You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.

    • Homple

      One of these days….

    • Naptown Bill

      So many good options…I mean there’s the obvious Confederate Flag if you want to rile them up, although I think a Gadsden might be better.

      Personally, I’d like some young, black smokeshow–think of Pam Grier in “Coffy”–with an afro and the barest suggestion of lingerie, reclined on a couch behind me holding a bourbon with two cubes of ice. I’d go on with the interview as if nothing is happening, periodically reaching back, whereupon she’d hand me said bourbon, I’d take a sip, hand it back, and keep on rollin’.

      • CPRM

        John McAffee is that you?

    • pan fried wylie

      the possessed marlin from the movie House.

  7. Rebel Scum

    Zelinsky is likely to face questions about many facets of the Mueller investigation, particularly from Republicans who have accused the FBI of opening the Russia investigation in 2016 to target Trump.

    Speaking of politicized investigations…

    “I think he deserves impeachment. He certainly deserves impeachment,” Nadler said. “But again, that’s a waste of time, because the Republicans in the Senate won’t look at that, and we have other ways of getting at this.”

    For some reason I can’t be bothered to care what Nadless’s opinion is.

    • sloopyinca

      What “other ways” is he talking about? Is that an overt threat?
      I guess the reporter couldn’t be arsed to ask him.

      • WTF

        Other ways, like the COVID shut-down, the BLM riots, etc.

    • Festus' Mustache

      It’s been four years chasing that tail. They are relentless, I’ll give them that.

      • sloopyinca

        They don’t really have a choice. If the Trump DOJ gets four more years to investigate them, somebody will drop a dime and the whole enterprise will come to light.

      • leon

        Because the first four years resulted in so many prosecutions.

      • R C Dean

        Such optimism.

        Nobody who matters will be prosecuted. Hell, they haven’t prosecuted people who don’t matter.

        I really think we’re being played by Barr and Durham.

      • cyto

        I have my suspicions on that front as well. If they were serious, they would have a bunch of people’s nuts in a vise. Mueller did not mind squeezing underlings who did nothing wrong. I guarantee Barr and all of his career prosecutors have done the same thing many times over as well.

        The fact that not one single one of these underlings is finding themselves under that kind of pressure tells me that they don’t really have any intention of bringing this conspiracy down.

  8. Rebel Scum

    Israeli annexation plan draws apartheid comparisons

    Yeah, sure.

    • WTF

      Turns out, they’re not the same!

    • Festus' Mustache

      Roger Waters slips below the surface of his McDuck money pit and lets loose a flurry of fart bubbles.

    • Swiss Servator

      When you use the passive voice, that means “I am putting my personal opinion in here…surely someone, somewhere shares it!”

      • R C Dean

        Also, my fave: “Some say . . . .”

      • l0b0t

        Ah, I see you are familiar with the level of sourcing on Wikipedia as well.

  9. The Late P Brooks

    Time’s up

    The world has only six months in which to change the course of the climate crisis and prevent a post-lockdown rebound in greenhouse gas emissions that would overwhelm efforts to stave off climate catastrophe, one of the world’s foremost energy experts has warned.

    ——-

    Creating jobs must be the priority for countries where millions have been thrown into unemployment by the impacts of the Covid-19 pandemic and ensuing lockdowns. The IEA’s analysis shows that targeting green jobs – such as retrofitting buildings to make them more energy efficient, putting up solar panels and constructing wind farms – is more effective than pouring money into the high-carbon economy.

    “According to our model, our model is correct.”

    • Homple

      “The world has only six months in which to change the course of the climate crisis and prevent a post-lockdown rebound in greenhouse gas emissions that would overwhelm efforts to stave off climate catastrophe, one of the world’s foremost energy experts has warned.”

      And I really mean it this time.

    • leon

      I was told I had 10 years! In want to speak to the manager!!!

    • sloopyinca

      such as retrofitting buildings to make them more energy efficient, putting up solar panels and constructing wind farms

      I agree. Let’s start by setting hundreds of them up on Martha’s Vineyard and all over Bel Air and Malibu.

      • CPRM

        That D&D guy could role play as Don Quixote! Probably a level 7 paladin at least!

      • Ted S.

        Energy-efficient like Grenfell Towers.

      • Drake

        Don’t forget the Kennedy compound on Cape Cod.

    • juris imprudent

      Describing that donkey as an energy expert sounds so much more impressive than simpering bureaucrat.

    • Suthenboy

      Doom is always just around the next bend.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      They’re relentless in their fear mongering. For them the pandemic and climate change is a double whammy of pure bliss.

      And you just know the sheep are gonna gobble this goo-goo muck gleefully.

      It’s an anti-humanist death cult.

  10. mock-star

    Man, Tuesday again?!?

    Also, Talk Soup was better with John Henson than Greg Kinnear.

    • Festus' Mustache

      I liked that Chocolate Girl. She was charming.

    • CPRM

      Aisha Tyler or GTFO!

      • Naptown Bill

        Aisha…

        *swoons*

    • leon

      None can swim, but they jump in to try to save one another.

      • R C Dean

        It’s their own pool. Who the fuck has a pool but nobody in the family can swim?

      • leon

        Old man, daughter in law and child. It actually sounds plausible to me.

      • pan fried wylie

        Totes. Old man starts struggling, daughter jumps in to save him but not strong enough to overcome his struggling, child pulls up his/her bootstraps as the only hope for the entire family, slips on the edge, sustains a concussion on his/her way into the water, joining mom and grandpa in their watery grave.

        Teach your kids not to run poolside, people.

      • pan fried wylie

        We assume it’s their house, and that they didn’t murder the family that lives there only to wind up drowning in their pool.

    • Festus' Mustache

      What about that dude that banged Hurley in her prime? Imma think that if I ever got that lucky, I’m telling the tale to a ripe old age…

    • sloopyinca

      Electrocution would be my guess.

      • PBRstreetgang

        I think this is going to turn out right. I read the pool was only 4 feet deep, so I don’t know how else two adults could drown at that depth.

      • UnCivilServant

        Face-down, you need maybe an inch of water in which to drown.

      • pan fried wylie

        I guess if you were touching a grounded light enclosure and someone tossed you a live wire.

        Or we talkin lightning?

  11. Rebel Scum

    Tuesday Morning Links

    But is it?

    • UnCivilServant

      Yes.

      Do you doubt the Party, Comrade?

      • pan fried wylie

        We’ve always been at war with Eastuesday.

    • DOOMco

      For a minute this morning I was very distraught.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Nice.

    • sloopyinca

      ::strolls by, whistling innocently::

  12. Rebel Scum

    North Korea’s embassy in Moscow has threatened to use its nation’s nuclear weapons against the United States in what they claim would be “a particularly sensational event,” a Russian state-owned news agency reports.

    Good luck, I guess.

    • UnCivilServant

      “Empty Aleutian Island missing. North Korea Claims Victory.”

      • R C Dean

        “North Korea missing. US suggests China check under couch cushions.”

      • UnCivilServant

        “China asks ‘What is North Korea?’, opens new fishing zone.”

      • pan fried wylie

        Fishing Korea is Best Korea.

    • leon

      LOOK AT ME!!!!

  13. The Late P Brooks

    How do 3 people drown accidentally in a pool?

    They were trying to re-create a Houdini act?

  14. Rhywun

    Buckle up, it’s going to be a bumpy ride.

    Not only is AOC cruising to victory, millennials are poised to oust boomers left and right.

    • leon

      Well. It was bound to happen eventually, time is the one thing no man can escape.

      Not that surprised by AOC primary win. I think she’s sufficiently come under pelosi’s control that they weren’t going to oust her.

      • Rhywun

        Apparently Gen X couldn’t put the bong down long enough to notice that they’re getting ass-fucked yet again.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        *puts bong down, turns around to check*

        Oh dammit, not again…

      • juris imprudent

        There’s a Mexican floating around that formulation… somewhere.

      • leon

        Maybe Booker, Sinema, Gillibrand, and Hawley will get together and save their fellow gen xers from being screwed.

      • Not Adahn

        To be fair, aren’t there only like seventeen Gen Xers? The baby bust was pretty intense. That and all the cocaine killing sperm in the ’70s.

      • Rhywun

        It is absolutely a numbers game. It is no accident that we’re still voting for septuagenarians as president.

      • Nephilium

        So, we’re all here? Or are we rarer then libertarian women?

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Yeh Gen X voting this way are disappointing me greatly. They don’t seem to grasp we’re being squeezed by Millennials and Boomers.

    • CPRM

      In person voting!? She’s tryin’a kill my dead grandmas!

  15. Certified Public Asshat

    It. Was. A. Noose.They just don’t believe it was directed at Bubba Wallace.I know facts nor context is your strong suit, but do try to keep up. https://t.co/dxsqLeSp7A — Jemele Hill (@jemelehill) June 24, 2020

    Don’t stop believing.

    • Festus' Mustache

      black screen

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      She doesn’t believe, she just knows how to play to her retarded audience.

      • juris imprudent

        You can’t fake that kind of stupidity, just like you can’t fix it.

    • leon

      “I know facts nor context is your strong suit, but do try to keep up.”

      Context huh? So it was there for four months (outside the context of the George Floyd incident) and no one else thought it looked like a noose until now?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Truth isn’t her strong suit.

      • Festus' Mustache

        “We don’t believe in facts! We believe in truth!” *someone said something a few months ago*

      • Rhywun
      • Chipwooder

        I think it was there for more like 8 months

    • R C Dean

      “ Is my Garage Door Opener now considered an Automatic Weapon?”

      Good one.

      Sad to see all the people insisting it was a noose, so they were right all along.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        *conversation started*

      • Festus' Mustache

        *Dons comically tall dunce cap*

      • JaimeRoberto Delecto

        The garage door opener does have that thing that goes up.

    • WTF

      A noose is a very specific type of slip knot, not just a loop on the end of a rope. The loop on the garage door pull-down was not a noose.

      • Rhywun

        But it looks like one! And that is all that matters!!

      • Not Adahn

        Listen, whether or not it “is” a noose doesn’t matter. What matters is it symbolizes a noose. And as such it must always be treated as a hate crime by default. To think otherwise is further proof of your racist white supremacy.

    • Drake

      “stunning, shocking, appalling, disgusting remind of who this sport is for.”

      Absolutely nobody at this point. The NBA has bled off a lot of white fans since the Bird, Magic, Jordan days. The NFL hates you and openly treats fans like suckers. But I’ve never seen a sports organization turn on it’s fan base as abruptly as NASCAR.

      • leon

        The NBA has bled off a lot of white fans since the Bird, Magic, Jordan days.

        Not to mention that NBA Basketball absolutely sucks.

      • Drake

        I find it completely unwatchable now – was a huge fan in the 80’s.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        But I’ve never seen a sports organization turn on it’s fan base as abruptly as NASCAR.

        It’s crazy. I live deep in NASCAR fan territory and people around here are livid about the stars and bars ban. These are the people actually shelling out for tickets and traveling with RVs and such. I suspect NASCAR is finished.

      • straffinrun

        You don’t think NASCAR is just gonna fill the stands with fans of Don Lemon and The View?

      • UnCivilServant

        None of the three own cars, and can’t make it to the tracks.

      • Chipwooder

        Thing is, this is not something new for NASCAR. They’ve spent the last 15 years openly bitching about their own fans. They keep altering the format of the Cup because they think that they’re going to capture this new, hip, cosmo fan base. That never happens because would-be sophisticates are never going to give a shit about NASCAR, but what does happen is they keep bleeding support from their longtime, hardcore fans who now despise the circuit’s management.

        20 years ago, NASCAR was flying high – immensely popular, successful, and drowning in money. However, since that money largely came from rednecks, that wasn’t good enough for them.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        They want to appeal to a broader cocktail majority.

        Sorta like Nick wants for Reason.

      • Chipwooder

        Basically, yeah.

        People used to love NASCAR because it was fun and wild and many of the drivers had real personality, as compared to the ever-more buttoned up and bland personalities in other sports. That’s why so many fans hated Jeff Gordon, because he was boring and corporate compared to the likes of Dale Earnhardt or Rusty Wallace.

      • sloopyinca

        They also hated Gordon because he was going to rewrite the record books.
        They changed the cup format because of him. It’s a fucking shame because he was my favorite driver.

      • Chipwooder

        I was a Davey Allison fan as a kid. After he died, I was never more than a casual fan.

      • banginglc1

        So, NASCAR is the Nick Gillespie of sports?

      • R C Dean

        They have been running “classic” races from years past. Probably a bad move, since it makes it obvious it used to be a lot more fun.

      • Chipwooder

        I would say more early 2000s, starting with Dale Sr’s death.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Poor Jemele. Proof post-secondary education is over rated.

      BLM and race hustling is a cult to me.

      • Chipwooder

        Jemele Hill’s existence contradicts the entire theory of systemic racism. Her entire career has been a series of failing upwards: she was the worst of ESPN.com’s old Page 2 backbenchers, then she was their worst regular columnist, then she was their worst on-air talking head, then she was their worst anchor, then she got hired by the oh-so-prestigious Atlantic. A steady march of promotions based on nothing more than being a fat black woman.

      • UnCivilServant

        Your postulate would actually prove systemic racism in her favor rather than contradicting the theory.

        At this point to get rid of systemic racism we need to end affirmative action and the diversity grievence industry. Killing federal and state meddling in free association by nuking antidiscrimination laws would be the first step.

      • bacon-magic

        I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. I am opting out on the cookbook though.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        And getting praised on air by her colleagues.

        She would even get on ‘Around the Horn’ and it was all, like, what the heck is this shit?

        Reminds me of Chrystia Freeland somehow getting on the McLaughlin Group where she literally would offer nothing of value other than bop her head cluelessly, then she ended up being a high-ranking Liberal politician where she….offers nothing of value other than bop her head and get emotional.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        nothing of value other than bop her head

        You sure you aren’t thinking of Kamala Harris

  16. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloopy!

    Thanks for the lynx of insanity. I asked yesterday if none of these statue-challenged jurisdictions own water cannons. Fucking MRAPs, but not a single water cannon.

    Sad.

    Paul Weller is one of the coolest dudes in rock n roll. I’ve been on a Jam kick lately.

    Here’s one that will get you going.

    Have a skinny-tie kind of day, peeps!

    • Festus' Mustache

      That’s a good tune! Paul Weller played on Peter Gabriel’s great tune “And Through The Wire” back in 1980. I still listen to that one regularly.

    • pan fried wylie

      A water cannon isn’t just a firehose?

    • robc

      I picked that song from the album not because of Moraz, but because it has my favorite Steve Howe solo.

    • Festus' Mustache

      That’s a dandy, haven’t heard it in years.

    • sloopyinca

      I just couldn’t bring myself to pick anybody from today. It wouldn’t have been fair to the rest of the birthday peeps (except Mick Fleetwood, fuck that guy).

      • Festus' Mustache

        Ugh. Later era Fleetwood Mac is the worst. Even shittier than the Eagles bad. I like Steve Miller a cunt-hair more than them.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Are you saying you can stop thinking about tomorrow?

      • leon

        How does it feel, to treat us like you do?

      • Spudalicious

        It doesn’t matter because yesterday’s gone, yesterday’s gone.

      • robc

        Surely somewhere Beck and Moraz worked together, right?

  17. Certified Public Asshat

    Mark Cuban explains why he backs Biden in November: ‘Joe Biden actually wants to run a country’

    “But they are not running for president,” Hannity said. “Tell me what Joe has done that you were proud of that qualifies him to be president after 50 years [in public life].”

    Cuban answered that because Biden represented Delaware and not Cuban’s home state of Texas, he couldn’t fully analyze Biden’s record.

    “I think the ACA [ObamaCare] is easily [President Obama and Biden’s] biggest accomplishment and it’s unfortunate the [Trump administration is] trying to dismantle it,” he said, “and I will also say … the one event in the White House that Joe Biden put on and spoke about his support for entrepreneurship is one more event than he [Trump] has ever done for entrepreneurs in the White House or anywhere else.”

    Well, there goes the last bit of respect I had for Mark Cuban.

    • juris imprudent

      It can’t be much of a loss.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        He would rebound occasionally (hey-o).

    • sloopyinca

      He doesn’t give a fuck. The ACA doesn’t affect him and he couldn’t give a fuck that it caused every person’s premiums to skyrocket and quality of care to plummet.

      He’s a fucking idiot.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Dude cashed in at the height of the dotcom bubble by selling a rapidly depreciating internet property for a fortune to the financially dumbest of the big search engine companies.

      He gets credit for that one hit wonder. Running an ongoing enterprise? He doesn’t know jack shit.

      • robc

        Unless it was Excite@Home that bought Broadcast.com, then you are wrong, because the purchase of Blue Mountain Arts was the dumbest move ever.

      • robc

        Yahoo bought broadcast.com, so yes, probably dumbest of the big search engine companies.

        Excite is the dumbest of the ISP companies.

        /reading is hard

      • Chipwooder

        Pretty much all of his other ventures have flopped, so yeah, I agree.

      • robc

        I think the Mavs have done well for him.

      • robc

        He became majority owner for $285MM in 2000. It is worth $2.4B now. So even if he only owns 51%, that is a 7.6% annual rate of return. Not spectacular, but pretty good. At 100% it would be 11.2%.

      • Chipwooder

        Sure. On the other hand, though, the value of any sports franchise has exploded in the last 20 years. Not sure that really demonstrates any particular business acumen on his part.

      • robc

        Buying low is a skill.

      • pan fried wylie

        the value of any sports franchise has exploded in the last 20 years

        Adjusted for inflation?

    • RAHeinlein

      Cuban is clearly setting himself up for a political run and can’t risk “you supported Trump” on his resume.

      • robc

        There is a big difference between not supporting Trump and supporting Biden.

        I am fully capable of not supporting Trump or Biden, just like I didnt support Trump or Clinton or Romney or Obama or McCain or Obama or well, you get the idea.

      • leon

        Actually it is binary. If you don’t support one you are supporting the other. But it’s a Schrodingers kind of Binary that you are in a superposition of supporting both.

        Aslo, are you saying you wouldn’t vote for Biden if he follows through on his promise to punch Trump in the nose on the debate stage?

      • robc

        That is a NAP violation, so no.

      • leon

        Purist.

      • robc

        Party of Principle.

      • Not Adahn

        Now now, I don’t think there’s anything saying that you can serve as president while also doing time for assault.

      • EvilSheldon

        The NAP doesn’t apply to politicians.

    • Idle Hands

      Joe Biden probably just wants to be able to run his bowels.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Another useful idiot limousine liberal. And one that works in the NBA. Blech.

      Dude lucked into a fortune and doesn’t shut up about this crap.

      Shark my ass. He’s an ill-tempered sea bass.

      • pan fried wylie

        *Patagonian toothfish

      • pan fried wylie

        No, wait, that actually sounds more shark-like, back to “sea bass”.

    • Rebel Scum

      there goes the last bit of respect I had for Mark Cuban.

      Yup.

      • Lady Z

        He lost me with that stupid “study” he backed when Texas reopened, something about 96% of businesses in Dallas aren’t following covid protocols.

  18. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: He’s Hung, Jim

    Formally revealed last month for CBS’s All Access streaming service, Strange New Worlds is an upcoming addition to the Star Trek universe that serves as a sequel to the queer-inclusive Discovery and will “follow Captain Pike (Anson Mount), Science Officer Spock (Ethan Peck), and Number One (Rebecca Romijn) in the decade before Captain Kirk boarded the U.S.S. Enterprise, as they explore new worlds around the galaxy,” the show’s official description reads. The Captain Kirk character is set to make appearances in Strange New Worlds, and according to Richtman, he might be bisexual.

    • Festus' Mustache

      “Well, isn’t that special… Who’s the Showrunner? Is he SATAN?”

    • sloopyinca

      I tried to watch Discovery and it was so fucking stupid I stopped at the start of Season 2. I assume this will be more of the same.

      • WTF

        Same here. When I realized I was forcing myself to keep watching because I felt like I had committed to the series and was hoping it would get better, I called it quits.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Great, they’ll have Kirk and Spock porking each other by season 2.

      • Nephilium

        Speaking of that

      • Not Adahn

        When the slashficers make it into the writer’s room.

      • Mojeaux

        IIRC, Kirk/Spock was the original slashfic.

    • Nephilium

      Because the new woke Star Trek shows have been so popular with the fans.

    • WTF

      Well, Kirk is known to have nailed babes outside his own species.

      • Not Adahn

        Riker banged an alien with a penis.

      • Not Adahn

        The alien had a penis, I mean. Well, I assume Riker did too.

        Ok, trying again, Riker and and alien who was purportedly androgynous but had a penis, they boinked.

      • pan fried wylie

        “with which boinked unto …. I quit.”

      • R C Dean

        Riker banged an alien with who had a penis.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      This sounded like a number two even before getting to the bisexual retcon.

    • pan fried wylie

      Sequel to a prequel to a prequel.

      Wake me up when they decide to move beyond 2376.

      • Rhywun

        This. I have no interest in fucking “prequels”. They’re so fucking out of ideas they can’t even speculate what might come later.

      • pan fried wylie

        Domestication of the Borg. Further Romulan/Vulcan reunification leading to Vulcan’s alienation from the Federation.

        I haven’t watched any of the series in a few years, that’s all I can think of offhand.

  19. Tundra

    At least one journalist in Minne is staying on top of the big story.

    CORONAVIRUS IN ONE STATE: SPECIAL EDITION EXCLUSIVE (2)

    Scott Johnson has been dogging the shitheads in the administration for information for months now. The economics stuff is starting to trickle out and it ain’t pretty. Further, he had an outside dude do some comparative analysis and this was the conclusion:

    If Minnesota had [achieved] better outcomes [with respect to the epidemic], one might argue that the economic damage was worth it, but that does not appear to be the case.”

    Minnesota’s deaths per 100,000 are twice as bad as Wisconsin’s and 2.5 times as bad as South Dakota’s. Why? I don’t know. Maybe the other states did a better job of protecting vulnerable people in nursing homes. Regardless of the reason, it appears Minnesota has suffered the worst of both metrics.

    I hope the DNC promised you something big, Walz, you bitch.

    • Festus' Mustache

      If enough people don’t wake up to this bullshit come November, we are done. D-U-N as Representative Democracies.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        We’re done. Millennials are too big a generation and they’re clearly a lost generation of derp. I didn’t want to believe it but there’ll be more AOC’s coming up it looks like.

      • invisible finger

        Prozac-n-Facebook generation. Wallowing in self-pity gets more social cred than hard work. The direct result of institutionalizing young people for far too many years.

    • leon

      If Minnesota had [achieved] better outcomes [with respect to the epidemic], one might argue that the economic damage was worth it, but that does not appear to be the case.”

      Idiot! Doesn’t he know that economists have already said that we should be willing to give up 3 years of GDP to save every life in the pandemic. Clearly what we have spent has not only been cheap, but NOT ENOUGH!

    • Pope Jimbo

      It is interesting that the rest of the “journalists” in Minnesoda are not screaming from the mountain tops about Walz’s administration banning Scott Johnson from press conferences for asking hard questions.

      I guess they are cool with only some journalos being allowed to ask softball questions.

      You know maybe take Scott’s suggestion and keep hammering away at the question of why we shut down the state when 98% of the deaths are people in long term care or who had at least one serious co-morbidity?

      • leon

        He’s not a real journalist, because he doesn’t throw softballs at the good guys.

    • straffinrun

      Blame Chauvin.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Chauvinist pig! (Something that I actually heard my Mother yell at someone circa 1974)

  20. Pope Jimbo

    Non-police nut punch

    Minnesota’s efforts to protect its most vulnerable residents during the coronavirus pandemic is also having an unintended consequence — the isolation is killing some of them.

    “Families are literally watching as their loved ones die of loneliness,” said Kristine Sundberg, executive director of Elder Voice Family Advocates. “We know full well, isolation has a significant impact on both physical and mental well-being.”

    “So many of our families are just desperate to see their people, especially those with memory issues,” Sundburg said. “We are seeing serious impacts. We need to figure this out. We need to help families get together.”

    Three Minnesotans, all in their 90s, who died in early June had “social isolation” listed as a cause of death or contributing factor on their death certificates. Only one of them had tested positive for COVID-19, but all three lived in long-term care facilities that have been ordered to restrict outside visitors to protect residents from the coronavirus.

    I get that managing the long term care facilities is tough, but refusing to let family see their loved ones and having them die of loneliness seems like a bad idea. And if loneliness is bad for old people, is it really not a factor for the rest of us?

    • sloopyinca

      Three Minnesotans, all in their 90s, who died in early June had “social isolation” listed as a cause of death or contributing factor on their death certificates.

      I have no doubt this was a contributing factor to their decline, but how can it be medically quantified? I’m no fan of the isolation orders, but this manipulation of death certificates needs to end. It’s being used to rack up higher Corona death counts than are really due to Corona and it needs to stop in all cases. The cause of death on a death certificate should exclusively be the medical cause of death, not the contributing psychological factors. There’s a place to calculate that, but an official death certificate isn’t it. It’s ripe for manipulation and frankly, a ME isn’t qualified to make that determination.

    • Rhywun

      I guess I’ll take their word for it but “social isolation” as a “cause of death” seems ridiculous to me.

      • Not Adahn

        Unless they were socially isolated and fell asleep in a room with a fan on.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    But ME ME ME!

    Wallace said he has read people saying it was simply a garage pull with a knot in it, but he stressed that NASCAR and the FBI stated it was a noose.

    “It was a noose that, whether tied in 2019 or whatever, it was a noose,” Wallace said. “It wasn’t directed at me, but somebody tied a noose, that’s what I’m saying. It is a noose.”

    Wallace, NASCAR’s only full-time Black driver, successfully pushed the stock car series to ban the Confederate flag at its venues less than two weeks ago.

    I had no real opinion one way or another until now.

    Fuck that guy.

    • leon

      “It was a noose that, whether tied in 2019 or whatever, it was a noose,” Wallace said. “It wasn’t directed at me, but somebody tied a noose, that’s what I’m saying. It is a noose.”

      If you say it enough, maybe you’ll even believe it.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Even better, a picture of it would be worth a thousand words.

    • straffinrun

      Surpised Emmett Till hasn’t risen from the grave and lynched him for that.

    • WTF

      It wasn’t a noose, a noose is a very specific type of slip knot, not just any loop at the end of a rope. The loop on the garage door pull-down was not a noose.

      • leon

        Just shows how stupid and incompetent most White Supremacists are, that when they tie a noose the cant even do it right.

      • Chipwooder

        From looking at a zoomed-in picture, it looks like a bimini twist, a very common fishing knot.

    • Drake

      He’s a fucking idiot and a brazen liar. And now the face of NASCAR.

    • juris imprudent

      Ricky Bobby gone woke?

      • Drake

        “thank you baby Karl Marx, little baby Mao in a manger fixin to save all our souls…”

      • pan fried wylie

        Fake And Bake, yeeeeeaaaaghhh!

    • R C Dean

      Fuck that guy indeed.

      You would think someone acting in good faith would say “I am very glad to learn that there was, in fact, no hate crime, that there was no racist getting into my garage and leaving a noose, that this was all a misunderstanding.” I’m not hearing that from Bubba or NASCAR. Which tells me it wasn’t a mistake, it was a hoax.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      It’s a weird psychology these days. There’s a cynical-nihilist-narcissism on display. Even when good news comes out about climate change really not being that they think it is in terms of killing us, or Covid-19 not being a fatal as first thought right down to discovering a noose was just a loop, people don’t accept the good news. It’s just their own ‘personal truth’ that matters no matter the evidence.

  22. Certified Public Asshat

    Miami-Dade’s largest cities to require masks in public as COVID-19 numbers spike

    But who will enforce this?

    Suarez said city code enforcement and police officers will embark on a campaign to force the public and business owners to comply or face a misdemeanor charge. He acknowledged it will be difficult to patrol.

    “Without a doubt, enforcement will be a challenge,” Suarez said.

    Great awareness.

    • egould310

      “ Suarez said city code enforcement and police officers will embark on a campaign to force the public and business owners to comply or face a misdemeanor charge.”

      And when a cop kneels on some black guy’s neck while trying to enforce this misdemeanor, we’ll get to burn down the city again!

  23. The Late P Brooks

    Sometimes a knot in a rope is just a knot in a rope.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Check your privilege and stop being so fragile.

    • UnCivilServant

      Not the ugliest pistol I’ve seen, but in the ugly half.

      • Not Adahn

        De gustibus.

        But IMO, the only truly ugly pistol Beretta’s made is the PX4.

      • Drake

        Really? I like them.

      • Not Adahn

        Their back end is disturbingly reminiscent of an AMC Pacer.

      • sloopyinca

        It’s lovely. Berettas are lovely compared to those hideous blocky Glocks.

        Italians make art, Austrians make tools.* If a work of art is as efficient a tool as something less artistic, I’m gonna lean toward the artistic.

        *Mozart being the exception to the rule

      • EvilSheldon

        Glocks are extremely size-efficient. Absolutely nothing on a Glock is any larger than it needs to be in order to function.

        If nothing else, it gives them a very proportional look that most other makers struggle to emulate.

      • sloopyinca

        I’ve got nothing against Glocks. But they’re ugly compared to Berettas.

      • EvilSheldon

        Compared to the 92, or the 84, or even the PX4, yes. Glocks are ugly.

        Compared to the Nano or the APX, Glocks are the height of understated elegance.

      • Suthenboy

        “…understated elegance…”

        I am stealing that.

      • DEG

        Italians make art, Austrians make tools.* If a work of art is as efficient a tool as something less artistic, I’m gonna lean toward the artistic.

        *Mozart being the exception to the rule

        Sachertorte is Austrian and it is art.

      • pan fried wylie

        Sachertorte? I barely knew her!

      • EvilSheldon

        Ugly?

        I mean, it’s kind of of odd-looking compared to some more modern designs, but the lines have a certain amount of Art-Deco swagger. Same with the PX4.

      • Not Adahn

        As above, the PX4 looks like the crossbreed of a SIG with a Pacer.

      • Mojeaux

        I am not a gun person.

        It looked very 1970s to me.

      • Not Adahn

        SEE!

        Is there a more ’70s car than the Pac3r?

      • Mojeaux

        There is not.

      • UnCivilServant

        Yes, ugly.

        I don’t think Baretta has made a pistol that gets above the halfway mark in attractiveness. Though they do have some pretty shotguns.

      • UnCivilServant

        You’ve proved my point.

      • UnCivilServant

        Whoever did the engraving and plating on that has some skills… though I can’t help but notice they used Stargate’s design for the Horus figure.

      • UnCivilServant

        I don’t know why people carve arabesques into guns.

        I’ll take the tacky Stargate themed Sig over an arabesque.

        I’d even take an unegraved Baretta over an arabesque.

        Hell, I’d take a Glock or Hi-Point over an arabesque.

      • Mojeaux

        Paisleys!!!

      • Not Adahn

        Douglas Adams explained it with Hotblack DeSatio’s limo:

        “I am so rich I don’t have to take this seriously.”

      • Trolleric the Goth

        not even the iconic, svelte, lines of the 92/96?

        they’re kinda meh to shoot, but they look fantastic

      • Chipwooder

        Yeah, the 92 is nothing special functionally but its lines are pretty.

      • UnCivilServant

        I never liked the half-exposed/half-shrouded barrel look.

      • Not Adahn

        I absolutely adore the trigger on mine.

        I can’t shoot it as well as the CZ (undoubtedly because the CZ is much heavier) but the trigger break is just divine.

      • Trolleric the Goth

        nice trigger, but I could never get what I felt was a good grip – granted I only had maybe a half hour on it as a rental, but still.

        (I keep seeing PSA running ads for Carabinieri trade-ins for $299 and I’m very tempted)

      • Not Adahn

        Yeah, the original 92 grip looks much nicer than it feels. I got some ultra-thin panels made for mine and it’s pretty good now.

        Supposedly the Vertex grip is a vast improvement, you’ll need to talk to Sean about that.

      • Sean

        Supposedly the Vertex grip is a vast improvement, you’ll need to talk to Sean about that.

        I’m quite smitten with my 92x compact. Seriously, at the prices you can get one for right now on GB, it’s a steal.

        The grip size and texture is just right to me. Admittedly, it is aggressive, but not unreasonably so.

      • Not Adahn

        I don’t think Baretta has made a pistol that gets above the halfway mark in attractiveness.

        Congratulations. You are now wronger than The Hyperbole and have worse taste than the guy who invented pineapple deep dish.

      • UnCivilServant

        I am disappointed in you.

      • Not Adahn

        Some things are beyond dispute:

        1. John Moses Browning is the greatest gun designer of all time.
        2. The Beretta 92 is the most beautiful handgun ever.

      • Q Continuum

        “The Beretta 92 is the most beautiful handgun ever”

        SHUT YOUR DIRTY WHORE MOUTH

      • UnCivilServant

        You’re half right.

        The 1911 looks far better than the Baretta 92.

      • Jarflax

        The Hi-power is quite attractive, and Berettas share some of its lines, although I admit they are not as clean looking.

      • Jarflax

        The Hi-power is quite attractive, and Berettas share some of its lines, although I admit they are not as clean looking.

      • UnCivilServant

        Not Hi-Power, I meant Hi-Point.

        Dammit.

      • UnCivilServant

        Oh, wait, this was a different conversation.

        Too many threads

      • Q Continuum

        Original Colt snake guns are, and will always be, the best looking handguns. If we’re talking semi-auto pistols specifically, Kimber 1911’s are infinitely more fuckable than the 92.

        I have spoken.

  24. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: Fear And Self-Loathing From Feminist Sages

    It is true that in the past 12 years, I have been able to rise above the circumstances of my birth and build a life that I truly love. But no one should have to make such a Herculean struggle for simple normalcy. Even given the happiness and success I now enjoy, if I could go back in time and make the choice for my mother, it would be abortion.

    The world would not be a darker or poorer place without me. Actually, in terms of contributions to the world, I am a net loss. Everything that I have done—including parenting, teaching, researching, and being a loving partner—could have been done as well if not better by other people. Any positive contributions that I have made are completely offset by what it has cost society to help me overcome the disadvantages and injuries of my childhood to become a functional and contributing member of society.

    • Not Adahn

      It’s not too late to reduce the net loss to society sweetie.

    • Rhywun

      Death cult.

    • leon

      Any positive contributions that I have made are completely offset by what it has cost society

      This is where collectivist thought leads you. Your life is worthless because some faceless entity called society had to bear with the burden of you. That way of mind, is as seen, a way to some very dark places.

      • Unreconstructed

        Any time someone mentions cost to “society”, I immediately ignore anything else they have to say. Society never pays for anything. Society is not harmed by anyone’s actions. I don’t owe society anything (my labor, my time, NOTHING). Society can fuck right off.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Another irritant and myth about collectivism is the idea whenever we’re faced with a threat (the government deems to be a threat) like Covid-19 is its penchant for empty sloganeering like ‘we’re in this together’.

        It’s funny how broad and selective we are with ‘we’re in things together’ depending on the issue.

        To me, it’s just a sly way of saying submit sheep.

      • Suthenboy

        “This is where collectivist thought leads you.” <— This

    • Drake

      no one should have to make such a Herculean struggle for simple normalcy

      Life is just so easy for everyone else.

    • juris imprudent

      The world would not be a darker or poorer place without me.

      Your Herculean struggle did not arrive at normalcy.

    • TARDIS

      Translation: I want you to die in misery like me. If only there were a form of government that would promote it.

    • BakedPenguin

      With this kind of outlook on life, it’s hardly surprising her and others who think like her see little value in others.

  25. Evan from Evansville

    I had an odd weekend. I wanted to share some comments that I gave to Lady online, because we aren’t allowed in the same hemisphere. It’s getting old. Forgive my lack of proper capitalization.

    “ive had both legs sawn off, i got the fuck beaten out of me while stopping a girl from getting raped, many other broken bones and concussions, and I JUST came THIS CLOSE to death and I bounced back every single fucking time.

    not a single complaint has been heard from me. i don’t even complain inside my own head. it doesn’t fucking happen.

    i bounce and i get back on my feet. Death tries to poke me and i punch him in his fucking face out of disrespect. he can go fuck himself. he ain’t gonna fuck with me.

    but now the bullshit fake “threat” of a weak illness has everyone wearing masks and distancing is law and so is quarantine. they haven’t even properly faced this shit and this is how pathetically they respond to the made-up fear of getting sick. god forbid someone gets sick.

    and because of their weakness they have to KEEP ME DOWN so i can’t properly bounce back—i’m purposefully put under the foot of oppression because they are weak and afraid and fucking stupid.

    i only go along to be nice so my mom feels better. it’s fucking bullshit. i’m sick of it. make your own decisions, folk. that’s fine. no worry to me. you do you. but don’t you dare tell me how i’m supposed to live or WHAT I AM SUPPOSED TO BE AFRAID OF.

    just cuz you’re afraid doesn’t mean i am. i ridicule those who think that this is dangerous. pussies. try something actually dangerous. if this is the best you’ve got, then that says more about how fucking fragile you are. it doesn’t say anything about me. i ain’t shook. i ain’t gonna be. but i’m surrounded by a populace that is.

    weak.”

    Forgive me for the long OT post. I was very angry this weekend. God forbid I, a 33-year-old, go out in the evening by myself and have a ton of fun with strangers in Madisonville, IN/KY. Just let me live. Apparently that’s very hard for my family to grasp and to be content with. I’m me. I have things I want to do other than hang out with my 70-year-old father. And he’s pretty much on my side. But he went out at 2am for a two hour walk to apparently “look” for me. That didn’t work. I’m sick of being treated like a fucking lab rat who needs to be monitored at all times. It’s sickening and I don’t need it.

    Sorry for long post.

    • UnCivilServant

      No need to appologise. Not for this sort of post.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Rant on. We need more of it.

    • straffinrun

      Somewhere a Karen just found a noose in her Volvo.

      • Not Adahn

        foubd</strike put

    • Sean

      Top shelf rant. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

    • Tundra

      Good rant, but give dad a pass. We never quit worrying.

      • Evan from Evansville

        That’s the only thing that keeps me operating this way. I am always nice, polite and understanding with my family. Brother, mom nor dad has heard me complain about how I’m being treated. They’ve been loving and supportive. It’s my obligation and honest duty to follow their rules right now.

        I’m beyond thankful for the help they have provided. I would be damaging my reputation and their happiness if I didn’t abide by their directives.

        I bite my tongue, but I don’t speak out. I’ve been Stateside for a month now. It’s been long enough that I’m starting to fray and a serious conversation needs to occur. No one is going to leave happy. But try as I might, I can’t delay this any longer. It’s unhealthy. They need to hear that how they are treating their youngest child isn’t in anyway good for me. That’s going to be hard for them and I don’t know what the repercussions will be. But it can’t be ignored. Not any longer. I’ve given them plenty of subservient time. All I want to do is go back and get to work. They won’t let me.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Yes, the amount of sheep among us is troubling.

      2020 sucks for a lot of people. You’re not alone that’s for sure.

      Vent away.

    • tarran

      Evan, I completely understand your frustration. This are very, very trying times. I expect your mom, lacking your experiences with danger, sees the virus as the most dangerous threat she has faced in her life; for her, it’s like being in London during the blitz. And sadly, fear is not an emotion that is governed by logic.

      Hang in there. With all the crazy stuff you have survived, I’m sure the fearfulness of family is something you will be able to handle.

      Maybe bring something home that your mom likes after your outings? A packet of gummie bears is not very expensive and can really brighten the mood.

      • Evan from Evansville

        Thank you, Tarran, for your kind words.

        “…fear is not an emotion that is governed by logic.”

        Absolutely true. I think that my fears are based on experience and logic, but that doesn’t translate to someone who hasn’t lived through incidents that would grant them personal knowledge. I don’t fault people for not understanding something that they’ve never experienced.

        If you have never had sex, been to Sri Lanka, gone through foreclosure, etc…you might know something about those things…but there is no reason for anyone who’s done them to really listen. What do they know, after all? Just got it all from reading? Well, cool…but that’s not how life in the present works.

        Your last paragraph stuck out to me. Little nice things, thoughts, are moving to people. I’m bad at doing such because I wouldn’t get any satisfaction. Old line I use accurately: “Do you want this slice of cake?” someone asks me. “No, thank you. You’ll enjoy it more than I will!”

        That is also why I can be difficult to be with. That’s a good reminder for me to think about–just be better, especially to those that have proven to be kind and supportive. Little things matter too.

  26. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    That was a solid list, for a change.

    And it didn’t even include your favorite trashcan dwelling Muppet!

    • leon

      Grover?

    • egould310

      Robert Reich was included in the list.

      • Tundra

        Excellent avatar.

      • egould310

        Thanks. I was just about to compliment your avatar. XTC ?

      • Apples and Knives

        I’ll take this time to compliment both.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Reich always makes the short list.

  27. Festus' Mustache

    Ah, it’s always fun but I need to bow out. Have a better day Glibs and we’ll see you on the flip-side. Be better.

  28. Timeloose

    Sloopy,

    Great song of the day. I heard it a bunch but never knew who it was.

    While watching it I found this song on the side bar that I hadn’t heard since 1988 on 120 minutes in HS.

    Great pop song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y7NGqfZteg

  29. PieInTheSky

    I hear the green jobs things and other crap as some solution to unemployment, but whatever you think of installing solar panels and insulating houses, that work takes some skill a lot of the unemployed might not have.

    • egould310

      WHY DO YOU HATE GREEN JOBS?!?!?!

    • Timeloose

      What! you don’t think any unskilled day laborer can’t hook up kWs of PV panels or drill random holes in the house and fill them with insulation. What’s the worst that could happen.

      • pan fried wylie

        think any unskilled day laborer can’t hook up kWs tens of thousands of $$$s of PV panels

  30. PieInTheSky

    FYI people. If you are more concerned about what Stalin was doing 70 years ago than what the USA is doing right here right now, you don’t care about human rights.

    Socialists today want to abolish this system.

    https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/1275488431968104449

    They always do, until they get into power.

    • Idle Hands

      Good god.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        We keep expecting socialists to learn from history when the entirety of Marxism is based on a denial of history and human nature.

      • Idle Hands

        I like the Tsar vs Soviet gulag bar death graph as if we even could know the real totals of either.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        How? They keep denying Stalin is basically SERIAL KILLER.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Jesus. ‘was a serial killer’.

        I feel like Joe Biden.

    • leon

      I mean this argument works just as well for Richard Spencer.

      • Idle Hands

        I mean how many people really died in the Holocaust? Isn’t it possible they are off by just a bit?

      • leon

        The US is committing Atrocities now, not the Nazis, so if you’re more worried about Hitler, you really don’t care about Human Rights.

      • robc

        The US is committing Atrocities right now, not the slave owners. So if you are worried about statues of dead men, you really don’t care about Human Rights.

      • Idle Hands

        So then why are they tearing down statues erected a 100 years ago again?

  31. Rufus the Monocled

    AOC beat MCC. Bad. Good job Queens/Bronx.

    You deserve everything you have coming.

    • Idle Hands

      Everyone hates congress but loves their congressman.

      • UnCivilServant

        Everyone?

        I think I’m still stuck with Taxin’ Tonko who needs to go decades ago.

    • leon

      Congressmen have a penchant for screwing over everyone elses districts, and helping their own. Its not like they run the district as an executive. So they probably won’t “Get what’s coming” to them.

    • Jarflax

      I didn’t know she played cricket? Was the match at Lord’s?

    • pan fried wylie

      Good job Queens/Bronx.

      Don’t be too hard on em, THEYRE WALKIN HEEYAH.

  32. cyto

    Get up so, I was watching NBC news this morning.

    They have not altered the NASCAR narrative one iota. They are still all in. Their story about NASCAR was about how Wallace was the big winner. The anchor was Hoda Kotb. She said she was in tears watching the footage.

    Later, they promised coverage of the global movement for change! Literally spoken in a tone of glowing admiration.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      I’m going with narcissism here.

      I mean a narcissistic psychosis in real time is unfolding before our eyes.

      Think of it. POLITICIANS AND JOURNALISTS get emotional and cry. It’s the politics and journalism of emotion.

      1984 and Idiocracy are crossing paths.

      • cyto

        And crying about the heroic response to something that did not happen.

  33. Q Continuum

    “‘There is absolutely no reason for him to ever be aggressive with women,’ Goldfarb said. ‘He’s had more women than you can count.'”

    While I doubt the truth of the allegations, I find this to be an unconvincing argument.

    Also: Jeebus he looks terrible! 67? He looks 87!

    • Mojeaux

      It would not surprise me if the allegations are true.

      It would not surprise me if it was all made up.

      My guess is it’s somewhere between the two in all cases.

      • PieInTheSky

        Certainly not in all cases… Maybe in some… although how exactly between?

      • Mojeaux

        On a spectrum from buyer’s remorse to too-plastered-to-consent-or-resist.

      • PieInTheSky

        imo buyers remote is simply not assault, no in between. Actually to plastered to consent meaning passed out or incoherent is assault, no in between. The only in between could be establishing to plastered.

      • Mojeaux

        I see your point.

      • Q Continuum

        My guess: porn actors at public appearances do get gropey with fans, usually with their encouragement. He may have gone too far a couple of times and the women felt icky later on. It’s some gray area, but not rape.

        Then again, what do I know.

      • Swiss Servator

        TIME CALL IN EXPERT WITNESS STEVE SMITH!

      • juris imprudent

        It is known that regret cancels even enthusiastic consent.

    • Chipwooder

      Did he ever not look terrible?

  34. Not Adahn

    New idea for a social movement:

    Ban gymnastics, because the rings are nooses. Plus a complete underrepresentation of Black and Brown countries in the medal count.

  35. LJW

    So AOC dominated her primary, but so did Massie. There is some hope. Still voting for SMOD.

    • robc

      Massie was polling bad shortly after he forced the vote in DC.

      • robc

        6 people ran against McConnell, they split 12.6% of the vote.

  36. Gustave Lytton

    https://www.kezi.com/content/news/Police-seek-suspect-in-armed-robbery-caught-on-camera-during-riot-571447651.html

    Watched the video of the armed robbery during a riot. The “victim” being a looter. Looks to me like another guy in the left foreground also has a drawn firearm. And doesn’t look like the robber is trying to beat feet either or pillage the store themselves. I’d say 50/50 they’re private citizens either confronting rioters because or associated with the businesses directly.

    • leon

      Well looting is the law, the government is now just saying that it can be privatized.

  37. Rebel Scum

    Jemele Hill✔
    @jemelehill
    It. Was. A. Noose.

    They just don’t believe it was directed at Bubba Wallace.

    I know facts nor context is your strong suit, but do try to keep up.

    Sure it was a noose, just like the string on my blinds.

    • Gustave Lytton

      #notallpulls

    • cyto

      Everyone was beating that narrative last night.

      This is not a hoax. It is a slander.

    • BakedPenguin

      Rebel Scum – please don’t kill yourself on your blinds just because you hate your own race.

      • pan fried wylie

        He tried but the fucking thing got stuck halfway up.

  38. Mojeaux

    Good morning, sloopy! I hope Banjos is holding up.

    Evan, you’re a good son, I would not have been able to do my duty to hold my tongue that long.

    As a percentage of population, GenXers are, in fact, more rare than libertarian women and it appears to me that this site is disproportionately made up of them. We don’t care (read that line in a fluffy book not an hour ago) because we have no power and no recourse. See: Breakfast Club. The best rebellion we can come up with is slide around the high school halls dodging a principal while “playing hooky” during Saturday detention.

    Velveeta is not precisely low-carb, but it went on my scrambled eggs this morning anyway. Say what you want about Velveeta, but it has its uses. Ro-Tel Crock-Pot nachos and all over scrambled eggs are two of them.

    Baseball. I’m with Raven Nation. Between the Royals and the Chiefs, I’m sated and can go a year without sports. Sadly, the husband is itchy for football season.

      • Mojeaux

        You’re pulling all-nighters now? You’ll never want to go back into the office again.

        BTW, I started Beyond the Edge of the Map yesterday.

      • UnCivilServant

        I spend time asleep when it’s the warmist (late afternoon/early evening)

        I’d love to hear your opinion of the work and the characters when you finish it.

      • Mojeaux

        Now, you realize it’s not my genre so I will bring extragenre baggage to it. I will try to differentiate conventions. I may ask from time to time.

    • Chipwooder

      See also: Fight Club…..”We are the middle children of history”

    • AlmightyJB

      I like Velveeta. Yes, I know it’s not really cheese. I’d say it’s better than cheese whiz.

      • Mojeaux

        I don’t think I’ve ever noticed a difference in taste. I buy Velveeta because ounce for ounce it’s cheaper. Plus, I water it down anyway so I can pour it like they do at those breakfast buffets.

      • UnCivilServant

        But the viscocity is one of the good qualities of velveeta.

      • Mojeaux

        I want to be able to pour it and it doesn’t pour well when it’s just a little bit in the microwave. I use just a little bit at a time and I only put in enough water to make it thick and creamy but still pourable.

      • Incentives Matter

        This comment highlights a difference between Canadians and Americans for me. Since we have a “managed” market for dairy, Velveeta™ is stupidly expensive here, as is milk itself, butter, etc., etc., etc. When I watch an American food show (like, say, Diners, Drive-ins and Dives), the amount of cheese or other dairy that is casually used in the creation of a dish just makes my jaw drop.

      • UnCivilServant

        Yeah, milk/cheese/butter isn’t that expensive* here, we make metric boatloads of the stuff.

        *on a relative basis.

      • Chipwooder

        Definitely better than Cheez Whiz. Makes a great dip when melted and mixed with chili.

      • Incentives Matter

        While nothing beats “real” cheese for me in most situations (what can I say? — I’m a Frenchie by background), the plastic cheeses have their place, particularly if that place is melting on top of a juicy hamburger patty on my grill. Even though I think an actual slice of old cheddar tastes better, the ersatz stuff triggers good childhood memories (Lord knows I have enough bad childhood memories).

    • Urthona

      Gen Xers are 1/5 of the population and in the most “productive” range of the population. They should make up a huge part of any internet forum.

      • Incentives Matter

        Per your comment, I suspect the Gen Xers are too busy being actually productive.

    • Agent Cooper

      You expect the generation whose slogan is “Meh” to become suddenly politically active and assertive?

      What’s weird is that on my Facebook, most of my GenX peers are either wildly conservative or very progressive.

  39. leon

    https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/joe-biden-donald-trump-behind-the-gym-230174

    This is kinda funny to read now:

    The vice president began railing against Trump earlier in his speech when Biden brought up the 2005 “Access Hollywood” tape in which Trump is caught on a hot mic talking about being able to grope women because he’s “a star.”

    Biden’s disgust was palpable.

    “What he said he did and does is the textbook definition of sexual assault,” Biden said. “Think about this, it’s more than wrong, he said because I’m famous, because I’m a star, because I’m a billionaire I can do things other people can’t.

    • cyto

      That article is barely even more than a tweet. What the hell has happened to the world?

    • Rebel Scum

      Biden’s disgust was palpable.

      Disgust or jealous that he only gets to sniff women?

      because I’m a billionaire I can do things other people can’t.

      When did the fact that women let men who are rich and powerful take liberties stop being a thing?

    • AlmightyJB

      It reinforces the stereotype that black dudes like chicks with fat asses.

    • BakedPenguin

      #1 looks like a doll – both in the colloquial and literal senses.

    • UnCivilServant

      Note – it’s hit or miss, but sometimes the preview in wordpress shows me a twitter result.

      From that picture I’d skip the words and just shoot the human pincushion.

    • Not Adahn

      I wonder why married women don’t shave their private part,even my landlord’s wife Man facepalming the funny thing is her daughter is not like that .

    • cyto

      From the suggested tweets on that page:

      I just found a noose in my car!!!! Oh, wait. It’s just a charger cable.

    • EvilSheldon

      Honey, if you need more attention, couldn’t you just start cutting yourself?

    • Pope Jimbo

      Is it really his fault that that hot blond made him horny?

  40. Rebel Scum

    Then what the hell are they supposed to use?

    Richmond City Councilman Mike Jones said in a tweet Tuesday that he will be introducing legislation banning flash bangs, tear gas and rubber bullets, following weeks of unrest in the city.

    “Innocent civilians & peaceful protestors should not have militaristic weapons deployed on them,” Councilman Jones tweeted. “We are a democracy.”

    There you go using those words again. I do not think they mean what you think they mean. But anyway, you want to remove all of the non-lethal options…and no, we aren’t.

    • UnCivilServant

      Clearly, he wants the police to use lethal force and just gun down the rioters.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Richmond is fucked. They were doing well, but now the rioters are feeling their power and the politicians are letting them loose.

      The money will leave again and Richmond will descend back into shithole status.

      • Chipwooder

        Oh, indeed. I’ve been saying for weeks now that I only go into the city when I absolutely have to, and I avoid spending money there. Tonio has said the same, and the more this bullshit continues, the more people will do likewise.

        Unlike the Johnny-come-lately hipster types, I remember when Richmond was top ten in murder rate and when only the crazy or foolish ventured into beloved bobo neighborhoods like Church Hill. When bodies start littering the streets again, it’s going to be hard to get people to keep renting those fancy new lofts or going to those hot restaurants in Scott’s Addition

      • Rebel Scum

        I, for one, will not be visiting or spending a dime in RVA for the foreseeable future.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      So you’ll either have to let mobs run wild or gun them down. It seems like an option somewhere in the middle would be preferable but what the hell do I know.

    • Swiss Servator

      Odd…I never took any of those into combat. I took frag grenades, no gas, but plenty of nice metal bullets. Oh, an a good stabby thing or two.

      • leon

        Swiss: SGT Have the Men Fix Bayonets!

        SGT Scruffy: Sir, it was just a pun.

        Swiss: FIX BAYONETS DAMMIT!

      • bacon-magic

        Stabbies are when you want to get all up close and personal and for cheesecake.

      • Jarflax

        And that is just for Monday morning trips into Chicago?

    • leon

      Who the fuck posts a screenshot of their phone screen to post a pic of the document?!

      Further proof of America’s retardation.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        He’s got 5g bro.

      • Jarflax

        Dude, I have had clients send me 18 page contracts to review as 18 jpegs via text.

      • Mojeaux

        ^^^That happens.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Technically not any worse than sending them as pdfs without a text layer.

        *glares at uspto*

      • UnCivilServant

        It is worse, there is nothing putting the jpgs in any particular order unless the client thought to name them properly.

      • Jarflax

        Oh yeah and this^. I actually called a client back after one such sending and told them the price I had quoted for reviewing the document was for reviewing it in editable form, to do it from pictures was going to be billed hourly at my list rate.

      • pan fried wylie

        The timestamp filenames should put them in the proper page order. Oh, I mean, if your pages were in order when you snapped them….who am I kidding, nevermind.

      • UnCivilServant

        And timestamps can get changed based upon how the files are delivered.

      • pan fried wylie

        Sorry, I was not referring to the datetime information stored in the filesystem, just the “20200624_xxxxxx.jpg” naming convention for the std android Camera.

      • Jarflax

        That depends on how flat and squared they hold their phone when snapping the jpegs lol.

      • grrizzly

        James Wolfe texted the Carter Page FISA application page by page to Ali Watkins in March 2017. Something like 81 pages/texts.

    • Chipwooder

      That gets a Nelson Muntz “Ha-ha!”…..eat shit, lefties

      • leon

        The replies to that tweet have some sweet tears, if you are running low on supply.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        People are literally begging for show trials and the punishment of their political enemies.

        We’re in a bad place.

      • leon

        Id’ posit that at no time in history have the unwashed masses not begged for show trials and punishment of their political enemies.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        True but they’re being taken seriously by the washed few that should and do know better.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      About fucking time.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      The people crying over this really have no interest in justice. Have they not understood the part the legal and justice system RAILROADED Flynn? Never mind there was no just cause to investigate in the first place?

      If these people were ‘done dirty’ they’d be the first to cry foul. Bunch of illiberal hypocrites.

    • TARDIS

      And when they combine all the brain matter together, they will create a person roughly as intelligent as AOC.

  41. Rufus the Monocled

    WOW. All these comments and no mention of Jimmy Kimmel and Bill Simmons being targeted for death?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      People were discussing Kimmel yesterday I think, not sure who Bill Simmons is. I don’t like deplatforming and cancel culture but it is kind of delicious when it happens to someone who’d be all for this kind of treatment if it was someone other than them.

    • littleruttiger

      What did Simmons do? I know Kimmel had the blackface thing

      • Chipwooder

        Didn’t hire enough genderqueer black Muslims, apparently.

      • littleruttiger

        Ah, well, he should know better, he’s gotta pump those genderqueer black Muslim numbers up, those are rookie numbers.
        I used to read him quite a bit years ago when he was on page 2 on espn.com, he had a definite frat boy kind of style for awhile, so there’s probably people re-reading articles looking for stuff as we speak. It does make me laugh though, however you look at it he’s a great success story, started writing the columns and eventually worked his way up to running his own company. But, I guess that doesn’t matter, let’s cancel him.

        I have no idea why anyone is even remotely sympathetic to these causes, they’ll always turn on you, always. And it seems like you just have to ignore it, in a week or two they’ll be onto something else.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        And employed plenty of people.

        And was WAF (woke as fuck). Dude loves Rapinoe.

        But Jacobins don’t care.

    • PieInTheSky

      Milton’s Vittles, Vino and Beer – I would think wine and beer are victuals

    • Lady Z

      That owner has a pretty shitty mindset. I wonder who she’ll blame when she goes out of business.

      • Jarflax

        I wrote a long reply about how much this whole “Customers are so rude, it is so hard doing service work OMG” thing annoys me, and then got the “You must be logged in to reply”, but basically it boiled down to this. In any interaction between a person paying for service and a person being paid for service the onus is on the person being paid to please the person paying. You can absolutely refuse to deal with someone who is rude, and I have done so, but it damn well better be done on a case by case basis and not as a blanket demand that your customers change to suit you or you are going to be angry and broke..

    • UnCivilServant

      “People have been not very nice coming in,” Weber said. “We’ve got customers coming in, sitting inside, walking around and not really taking into consideration the whole COVID thing. It’s really kind of upsetting me … and people just being mean.”

      In other words, your customers want normalcy.

      If you’re scared of the Commie Cough, stay closed.

    • Tundra

      Yeah, like I’d go to Crystal.

      As if.

      If she would have said: “the State people are being cunts and looking to shut us down any way they can. If customers could help us out, participate in the ridiculous Kabuki, everything will be cool.” I would be sympathetic.

      But she comes across really poorly.

  42. PieInTheSky

    An Elite Progressive LISTSERV Melts Down Over a Bogus Racism Charge

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/white-fragility-racism-racism-progressive-progressphiles-david-shor.html

    For those of you who don’t realize what makes the tweet problematic, try not to overanalyze the statistical validity of the research paper and think about the broader impact it will have if people perceive it to be true

    Right so truth does not matter at all in this scenario…

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Critical theory in action…

      The truth is irrelevant, only the ends matter.

      We’re headed for a no-shit shooting war if this continues.

      • Timeloose

        JFC, I can’t believe someone said this with any seriousness.

        “We cannot begin to decolonize our minds if we do not create safety for those fighting against white supremacy.”

        They are creating their own separate dream world, but somehow it has bled into all of our realities.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        They believe their own bullshit. And that is what makes them so damned dangerous.

        Their entire philosophy is built to support the rationalization of cognitive dissonance.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Somehow after careful review and analysis of all that crazy Lysenkoism in action the author comes to this:

      Elite institutions like “Progressphiles” deserve credit for attempting to grapple with the crisis of institutional racism, a task many institutions have not even bothered to undertake. Simple color blindness is not enough to make women and people of color feel welcome and fully equal in spaces in which few of them have been admitted. These institutions need to develop norms of conduct that allow underrepresented groups to feel truly equal while accounting for human complexity and permitting people to express themselves in natural language rather than academic jargon.

      Even the concerned and disaffected progs refuse to see that what is happening is purely a political power grab. They still believe in the good intentions of their accusers as they’re being marched to the wall.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        This kind of bullshit is the smooth Chait signature he’s known for

        https://reason.com/2020/06/12/the-revolution-is-eating-its-own/
        (Volokh, no Hit and Run)

        And Chait, while appalled at the mobbing of Fang, feels the need to discuss in excruciating detail (including, ironically, some old-fashioned whitesplainin’ of the interviewee’s lack of wokeness) why it’s not unreasonable for people to so strongly object the rather anodyne sentiment expressed by the interview subject. One assumes this is insurance against being Twitter-mobbed like Fang.

        Also interesting to note: Chait’s article fails to mention a perhaps too-close-to-home example of the cancel culture at work. His own New York Magazine has banned columnist Andrew Sullivan from writing about the recent protests.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I didn’t even notice it was Chait. Figures.

      • PieInTheSky

        i like how women are squeezed in there re color blindness

      • leon

        I was going to comment on the same part. “Look heres all this horrible wrong things happening”. But They are still trying to do the right thing, unlike those icky right wingers who don’t even try.

      • PieInTheSky

        As I said in other situations, I find pretending to care to hide evil shit worse than just being upfront about it

    • R C Dean

      On May 28, progressive election data analyst David Shor tweeted about a new paper by Princeton professor Omar Wasow, showing that peaceful civil-rights protests moved public opinion toward protesters while violent protests had the opposite effect. The tweet violated a taboo in some left-wing quarters against criticizing violent protest and led within days to his firing.

      I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, but holy crap, this is lunacy.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        If I get time travel powers, I’m going back to shoot the pols who supported federally guaranteed student loans.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Its because all the BA schools don’t do objective investigation, they do advocacy and call it research. Then when actual research gets done, no matter the finding, they assume its advocacy too. Because why would people have different preferences and do different things.

        Its the same logic that was behind ousting Steven Hsu. He was in charge when someone researched something, and the mob interpreted that as promoting the thing instead of wanting to understand it better.

    • leon

      The premise that “allyship” prohibits the questioning of any charge of racism is a common one. Not only is the rigor of Wasow’s research no defense, neither is the fact that he is also Black, which is dismissed as a “my best friend is Black” form of tokenism:

      I can’t be racist, I’m black!

      That’s not a defense, it just makes it even worse!

    • Rebel Scum

      I never got how white are supposedly evil, racist white-supremacists and also really fragile.

  43. DEG

    A Harrisburg, PA bar should change its name

    H.P. Lovecraft was an antisemitic white supremacist. This is an indisputable fact. Anyone familiar with his works knows that he wrote stories that promote genocide and hatred, as well as the litany of softer tales that he is most famous for. As a black person who knows Lovecraft’s legacy, I struggle with the fact that we have a bar in downtown Harrisburg whose name is an approximation of his.

    • UnCivilServant

      Opinion – Georgi Hicks should offer a grovelling appology for being so fragile and too easily offended.

    • PieInTheSky

      don’t go there. Solved.

      The Lovecraft mythos is huge, lots of writers wrote in it, and most people do no about his views. It has nothing to do with why his work is liked. He did not commit any particular violence i don’t think. So just private views are not that relevant

      • UnCivilServant

        But he named his cat a bad word, Pie!

        /Prog

    • Mojeaux

      Rename ALL the things!

      • TARDIS

        Welcome to Wypipobadistan. Here’s a Karen for you to beat and enslave.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      So if you like his stories or the movies based on them you’re a racist I guess, much less a bar with a silly name.

    • Not Adahn

      whose name is an approximation of his.

      The word “more” should be banned because it’s an approximation of “moor.”

      • Pope Jimbo

        Well, OK. As long as you don’t try to erase the history of the Moops, I’m cool.

    • Raven Nation

      “A vocally pro-genocide antisemitic”

      But enough about Farrakhan.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    try not to overanalyze the statistical validity of the research paper and think about the broader impact it will have if people perceive it to be true

    The global warming playbook, in a nutshell.

    Now with more flu-like symptoms.

  45. Dr. Fronkensteen

    Pistol grip only shotgun. Is there’s a good use for them and how do you safely fire one?

    • leon

      Downrange.

    • Not Adahn

      Pistol grip-pistol grip or bird’s head? The latter is non-injurious to the shooter and just requires practice.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Pistol grip not bird’s head. It just doesn’t look like you can aim without the recoil potentially breaking your face

      • Not Adahn

        I’ve never shot one, but people who have say the pistol grip is painful to use.

      • EvilSheldon

        You can manage the recoil of a shotgun using what some call the push-pull method. Essentially you’re pulling the gun back into your shoulder with your firing hand, and ‘stretching’ it out towards the target with your support hand. This works with stockless guns just as well.

        https://youtu.be/Gq74aiXn1b4

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      Assuming a full length barrel -> No, and into the sun.
      Back in the days of rifles only coming in 30-06 or heavier calibers, a coach gun or something like it made sense. Nowadays SBR or the like do the same job better.

      Search inRangeTV’s history and they talk about it (but I held this opinion previously)

    • R C Dean

      I assume you mean shotguns without a stock and with a pistol grip.

      There is a good use for them. They are very compact, portable, and quick, all good things for gunfights in tight quarters/at very short ranges.

      The problem is recoil, which is why I would go with a 20 gauge. I would also go with something on the foreend, either a handle or even a strap you can put your hand through.

    • EvilSheldon

      I know a couple of people who can use a pistol-grip shotgun effectively. As in, their presentation speed and accuracy are on par with that of a conventional stocked shotgun.

      These people are major outliers. For most of us, a shotgun needs to have a stock to be used effectively.

      Pistol-gripped shotguns still have some use as breaching tools, when loaded with the right ammunition.

      • Q Continuum

        “For most of us, a shotgun needs to have a stock to be used effectively”

        +1 zillion

        I’ve always thought the whole “non-NFA non-shotgun generic firearm” thing was a gimmick. Just get a Mossberg 500 with an 18 inch barrel and you’ve got much easier control, better accuracy and more capacity.

      • R C Dean

        Concur. The use case for stockless shotguns is pretty limited.

        Speaking of shotguns, the run on combat shotguns extends unto accessories. Mag extenders for the Beretta 1301 are unavailable. Out of stock everywhere, and where they give you a delivery time, its months out. There’s one on GunBroker, but it will probably go for at least $50 over list.

        Aftermarket stocks are also essentially unavailable, with one exception (the Mesa Tactical Urbino, a pistol grip with an adjustable comb, developed in conjunction with Beretta).

        And spealing of over list price, I understated what you will have to spend at GunBroker for an NIB M4 – vanilla, bring $3G to the party, wiith misc. “upgrades”, you’ll need $4G.

      • EvilSheldon

        You can get an adapter that will let you use a Magpul stock on a 1301.

        Personally I think the factory stock is fine, but I have long ape-like arms.

  46. Gadfly

    So despite Trump’s rally being considered a “flop” due to low attendance, apparently it was a smash on TV:

    Fox News Channel, which aired Trump’s speech live, had the biggest Saturday night audience in the network’s 24-year history, the Nielsen company said. During Trump’s address at 9 p.m. on Saturday, Fox had 8.2 million people watching.

    CNN and MSNBC aired only clips of Trump talking, yet each news network had about twice as many viewers as they normally get on Saturday nights. Collectively, the three networks had nearly 12 million viewers for its Trump coverage, Nielsen said.

    It would be interesting to know what effect, if any, it had on his level of support.

  47. Mojeaux

    @UCS, I was advised to get my book on Kindle Unlimited to increase exposure because free on KU is more enticing than 99c and that I would make more money. I did that.

    Secondarily, because I was victim to a particularly clever ad campaign for a series, I decided to give Facebook advertising another go. Of course “Scottish medieval romance” kind of sells itself, but still. So Inhave done that, too. My tagline isn’t the cleverest in the world and I don’t have awesome art like the other author (but I’ll get there, somehow), but it’s working.

    It’s also bleeding into people reading my other books. Not quickly, but it is.

    You don’t really need to have a following or much of a presence at all on FB to be able to advertise to the right people.

    In any case, I am pleased with my numbers this month and thought I would share that with you.

    • UnCivilServant

      I was going to launch an indigogo campaign but so far I’m stuck at such things as “Title” and “Short Description” For some reason when it comes to coming up with words to catch attention, my brain just locks up and there’s literal silence inside my thoughts. It’s the same when writing a query letter or ad copy. The gears just grind to a halt.

      • Jarflax

        Different writing skills are involved in advertising, outsourcing might be a good idea.

      • Jarflax

        No one good. I have a client who writes and writes her own ad copy and is convinced despite extensive evidence to the contrary that she is good at the ad copy. She is not a bad writer, but her ad copy is always far too long. Short and not subtle seems to be better.

      • Tundra

        Agent Cooper, I believe.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’ve tried talking to him, but I’ve never gotten an answer.

      • Mojeaux

        See below. He’s online.

      • Mojeaux

        Yes, that too. I had to outsource one of my summaries, and the first one I had lots of crowdsourcing help.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Most advertising is trying use one of the seven deadly sins to sell you something. Political advertising adds fear to anger.

      • Jarflax

        That is an interesting take. It might even be touching a deep truth. Thanks for something other than my rage at the news to think about!

      • Mojeaux

        I have the same problem with copy. You don’t want to see my first couple of summaries of my first book.

        It does help to be even a smidge of an attention whore, though.

      • Gadfly

        I was going to launch an indigogo campaign but so far I’m stuck at such things as “Title” and “Short Description” For some reason when it comes to coming up with words to catch attention, my brain just locks up and there’s literal silence inside my thoughts.

        From my limited understanding of how advertising works (sex, violence, and controversy get eyeballs), just name your book “Sexy Wars”.

        *Disclaimer: this might not be a good idea

    • Agent Cooper

      “My tagline isn’t the cleverest in the world and I don’t have awesome art like the other author (but I’ll get there, somehow), but it’s working.”

      I may be able to help re: art.

      • Mojeaux

        Thank you! I’ve asked you before if you could point me to a hungry young artist, but you weren’t online.

    • leon

      I want to hear what happens when they find the chained up astronaut who though he had returned to a planet conquered by the simians.

    • Gadfly

      I wish the humans luck in this endeavor. But as the Australian Emu War showed us, sometimes nature wins.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Life will find a way.

    • leon

      I heard he wants to add a mural around the Hasidic communities that says: “Woke will set you Free”.

      • Not Adahn

        Can we set up a billboard across from Gracie Mansion listed all the NYers who’ve been ‘vidded to death?

      • Rhywun

        I’d settle for taping a piece of paper to the back of Gracie Mansion reading “KICK ME”. Since he wants to argue at the level of a five-year-old.

      • Trolleric the Goth

        wow, this elicited an actual groan

      • BakedPenguin

        Seems like they already have bolt-cutters for that.

    • RAHeinlein

      Well, what else should he do with all that extra cash?

    • Agent Cooper

      Trump should just put up a bigger one first.

  48. PieInTheSky

    Did anyone watch the Michael Malice Mencius Moldbug podcast ? In a way could be interesting but 2 hours seem to much

    • leon

      I listened to part, but 2 hours is a lot, and i really haven’t followed Moldbug a lot so i didn’t have a big interest in it to start out with.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’m still getting thru the Thaddeus Russell one.

      Nobody ever accused Curtis of being short-winded.

  49. R C Dean

    More Bubba doubling down.

    I’ve been racing all of my life,” Wallace told CNN’s Don Lemon. “We’ve raced out of hundreds of garages that never had garage pulls like that. So people that want to call it a garage pull and put out all the videos and photos of knots being as their evidence, go ahead, but from the evidence that we have – and I have – it’s a straight-up noose.”

    I think this just has to be bullshit, that no other garage in all of NASCAR uses rope door pulls with a loop at the end. Nobody will call him on it, although I’m willing to bet people are scouring footage of other tracks to find more of them. And, of course, there’s footage of Talladega from 2017 with those same door pulls.

    He said he hadn’t seen the noose himself but had seen photos of it.

    “It wasn’t directed at me,” Wallace added, “but it was a noose.”

    Oh, there is a picture. Well, why isn’t it being published?

    You can call it a noose all you want, but that doesn’t make it one.

    • CPRM

      He identifies it as a noose! Who are you judge his lived experience?! You fucking white supremacist!

    • Rhywun

      I’m willing to bet people are scouring footage of other tracks to find more of them

      It took the autist internet less than a day to provide proof he’s full of shit yesterday; you can be sure they’re working on this today.

      • pan fried wylie

        “Sir, we never considered that locking them down would provide ample time for them to poke holes in all our phoneybaloney schemes.”

    • Drake

      Again – if he was ever honest about this he’s say: “wow, good news. It wasn’t really a noose, just a garage pull. Back to racin…blah, blah.” He might have been able to walk away and salvage his reputation.

      But, since he was lying all along, he can’t stop digging.

      • Lady Z

        This is getting him so much more publicity than being “just a driver.” Since when has the entire country paid attention to NASCAR? Right now he’s the only NASCAR driver I can name. Back to racing is the last thing he wants.

      • CPRM

        he’s the only NASCAR driver I can name.

        Bullshit! Put any 2 first names together or two sexual innuendos and it’s a NASCAR Driver. Like Ricky Bobby or Dick Trickle

      • Rhywun

        It sounds like he wrapped himself in the BLM flag pretty quickly after the story broke. That is what he was looking for. Not a considered “let’s wait and see”.

    • Agent Cooper

      No photo = bullshit.

    • Q Continuum

      The cornerstone of postmodernism: there is no objective reality, reality is what I say it is.

    • Suthenboy

      “…never had garage pulls like that…”

      Horseshit.

    • B.P.

      The solution is for Taladega to install automatic garage door openers. And to paint the garage doors to look like guillotines.

  50. CPRM

    robc on June 24, 2020 at 8:50 am
    He became majority owner for $285MM in 2000. It is worth $2.4B now. So even if he only owns 51%, that is a 7.6% annual rate of return. Not spectacular, but pretty good. At 100% it would be 11.2%.

    He was talking about Mark Cuban, but I’ve heard this same thing bandied about with MLB and those Jew greedy owners. The thing is, a sports team’s value isn’t a realized profit until it is sold. Yes the team may be ‘worth’ more than when it was bought, but that doesn’t represent cash on hand (except in debt leverage, which depending on the rate of debt to value accumulation could be a profit loss anyway). In every sector of American life this is one of the fallacies that does the most damage. Net worth isn’t real until it’s liquidated.

    • Jarflax

      Business valuation is always a bit of a crock. Businesses have two values. The value as a going concern which is determined by actual profits that you can take out if you choose, and the sale price when you actually sell it. Everything else is a made up number, and depending on the purpose for which you make it up it will vary wildly. The valuation you give a probate court and the price you ask for when selling aren’t going to be the same number.

      • CPRM

        Not just business, it’s the same way we get people taking out too much debt and ending up underwater. ‘Well, with your stock portfolio and home equity, of course we can give you a $500,000 line of credit!’ One market correction or crash later we need to bail them out or we’re heartless.

  51. Gadfly

    So after primary day the Republicans in one R-leaning district in North Carolina have decided their candidate is a 25-year old (the minimum age requirement). I guess the Rs have decided they don’t want AOC to be the youngest member of congress.

    • leon

      Due largely to the expansion of mail-in ballots as the United States fails to manage the pandemic,

      Has the US tried talking to the manager?

      • pan fried wylie

        I checked the thermostat. Still says “panicdemic”.

  52. EvilSheldon

    Yay! My new pistols have shipped!

    Boo! They won’t be at the local death merchant until Friday, which means I might not get to pick them up until Monday. Damnit, I want to shoot now!

    • UnCivilServant

      What did you order? We have to get all judgey.

      • EvilSheldon

        Nothing too fancy. One all-black Glock 48, and one Glock 34 Gen5 MOS.

        I’m likely abandoning a five-year fling with the Smith and Wesson M&P Compact as a carry gun. I’m also going to be trying out some mini-red dots as sighting systems. My eyes are still pretty good for my age, but they’re not getting any better.

        I was hoping to do some initial testing at the range on Sunday. *sad trombone*

      • R C Dean

        Red dots are the bomb. With a little practice, you can keep both eyes open and there is a magic red dot floating in space where the bullet will hit. Works a charm on rifles and shotguns where mounting the gun puts your eyeballs in the right place. Haven’t tried it with handguns yet.

      • EvilSheldon

        I haven’t used a rifle with iron sights in probably ten years. Hell, most of my ARs don’t even have backup irons anymore. Optics have gotten good enough that backups just aren’t necessary.

        On a handgun, I’m honestly a little more skeptical. At the USPSA matches I compete in, I see a lot of Carry Optics shooters having trouble finding the dot on the draw. But given the potential benefits, we’re gonna give it a try.

    • leon

      They won’t be at the local death merchant

      Hoosier Expat?

      • EvilSheldon

        Sort of. I’ve lived in the DC area all my life, but I went to school at Purdue.

        I gotta ask though, how did you get that from the ‘death merchant’ reference?

      • leon

        I was assuming that the Death Merchant, like all local arms dealers, was a Hosier.

      • leon

        Hoosier*

      • EvilSheldon

        Interesting, because I might have picked up that figure of speech from an Indiana friend of mine. Or maybe not. This was like fifteen years ago…

  53. RAHeinlein

    Cuomo, Murphy, and Lamont just announced a “coalition” requiring a 14-day quarantine for travelers coming from hot spots. Apparently, there is a metric.

    Looks like a number of my clients located in that area are f’ed – they just relaxed some of their employee travel guidance so personnel could support various manufacturing facilities (some in so-called hot spot areas).

    • mrfamous

      At some point, the judiciary is going to have to step in and establish what limits there are on the powers of governors. At the moment they have close to absolute free reign to do whatever the hell they want, but emergency powers by definition are temporary. Travel bans within the United States would have to trigger a judicial response.

      • R C Dean

        Cuomo: “You can travel all you want. You just can’t leave your hotel room for two weeks after you get here.”

        Roberts: “Sounds like a legit exercise of the taxing power to me!”

      • UnCivilServant

        “But the hotels are closed by Cuomo’s own orders.”

        Roberts: “Objection overruled.”

  54. Q Continuum

    So the Dem-Op pollsters are in full court press peddling how Trump’s numbers are terrible and he’s bound to lose. Look at how far behind he is in every poll! The Kung Flu and Lefty rioters have finally proved to be his undoing!

    Maybe his numbers really are that bad and maybe he really is finished. Who knows? And that’s really the crux isn’t it? The polls are so unreliable, especially when it comes to Trump, and the outfits running them are so pathetically agenda driven that you’d have to be an abject moron to trust them. I can tell you one thing: given everything that is going on, and the fact that the election is 5 months away, even if the polls weren’t agenda driven, nobody would have a fucking clue.

    I will say that it’s pretty amazing that Biden has managed to get as much supposed support as he has gotten (regardless of poll bias) for doing literally nothing. No policy proposals. No press conferences. No campaign events. Literally nothing except hiding in his basement and robotically repeating “I wuz Obamuhz VP”.

    • leon

      Who knows?

      Everyone living on Nov 11 2020. Problem is getting in contact with them.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      If they debate. Biden is toast. Literally and figuratively. He’s a piece of toast.

    • leon

      Trying to demoralize the GOP voters didn’t work, and possibly hindered the Dems in 2016, by being overconfident. The environment is different now (everyone knows that Trump winning is possible, whereas then it was a literal impossibility.) but i can’t see how playing the same playbook as last time would work better.

    • Trolleric the Goth

      perhaps because he hasn’t announced a VP pick yet he’s still a tabula rasa since nobody expects him to be the actual president?

      • R C Dean

        Interesting. He’s essentially polling as “generic Dem candidate”, who always polls better than “this actual candidate”.

      • Trolleric the Goth

        yep.

    • BakedPenguin

      Hey – when Corn Pop comes to your place late at night, who are you going to want in the White House?

      • CPRM

        ‘Who do you trust to take that 2am Corn Pop call?’

      • pan fried wylie

        “Not the guy that sent Corn Pop over to my house in the 1st place?”

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      “I’m Not The Other Guy!!” hasn’t worked in my lifetime, but the out-of-power party always runs on it. When Clinton beat HW, it wasn’t a “I’m not Bush” campaign that did it.

      I don’t think it will suddenly start to work against Trump.

      • leon

        ^^^ This. Though Trump is a pretty weak candidate.

    • Agent Cooper

      Nationwide polls are utterly useless.

  55. UnCivilServant

    I HAAATE filling out these knowledgebase forms.

    It’s dreary, dull, and headdesky work.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Patti Stanger of Millionaire Matchmaker fame has a saying, “No sex before monogamy.” It’s middle ground between no sex before marriage,which got blown up by the pill.” And free love. I think this young woman should practice that.