Wednesday Morning Links

by | Jun 3, 2020 | Daily Links | 545 comments

Aw, shucks!

No actual sports today, although Dabo Swinney is in hot water at Clemson after not saying the acceptable thing about the protests.  Jeez, people. Give it a rest. I think he’s a Gomer and a smarmy a-hole. But come on.

Tony Curtis and friend

President of the CSA, Jefferson Davis, was born on this day. The failed secessionist shares it with imperialist King George V, blood bank pioneer Charles Drew, dancer Josephine Baker, beat poet Allen Ginsberg, actor Tony Curtis, commie thug Raul Castro, basketball player Billy Cunningham, and tennis great Rafael Nadal.

Not a huge list, but a diverse one. Anyhoo, here come…the links!

Words no longer have meanings. I mean, is there a problem? Yes. Is it a matter of public health? No.

Whose bright idea was this?

Trump speaks the truth. And I assure you he will be pilloried for it by the media. Also, I don’t see people marching (peacefully) with signs of this guy’s name on it. Guess his life matters less than others.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Adios, you useless piece of shit.

Good, they should be. Now wash, rinse, repeat…all across the country. And get rid of their unions in the process so this can become a regular thing.

Moron

Sorry it’s just a tweet. But it’s still probably the stupidest shit you will see all day.

Way to double-down, you stupid fuck. I mean, what possible purpose does this serve?

What a fucking clown.

NO RAGRETS. What a stupid asshole.

I mean, isn’t he right though? Heaven forbid he actually voice an opinion all people should hold.

Facebook head takes a stand for free speech and “unrest”. Yeah, heaven forbid people make up their own minds about what they read. Not that I even use FB, but kowtowing to the mob isn’t always the right move.

Here ya go! Get the blood pumping. Hope you enjoy.

Now go out there and have a great day, friends!

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545 Comments

  1. Count Potato

    “Is it a matter of public health? No.”

    Maybe they need a substitute for the covid?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        More proof that public health experts are idiots.

      • AlexinCT

        The minute I see the word “experts” touted by your usual dnc operatives with bylines, or too often even those on the other side, I assume I am about to be presented with a massively stupid pile of shit and told to accept that because experts. Appeal to expertise should be the first clue you have a bunch of cunts peddling something whole unscientific or totally based on emotion as real. People should learn to react negatively to anything these cuntes try to sell through experts.

      • commodious spittoon

        The fact that they can only scrounge up dozens willing to look foolish for the cause is a little heartening.

      • sloopyinca

        “AnYbOdY pRoTeStInG sHoUlD vOlUnTaRiLy ReFuSe MeDiCaL cArE iF tHeY gEt ThE cOrOna”

      • Tonio

        [golf clap]

      • DOOMco

        Nice

      • bacon-magic

        Bravo

      • Juvenile Bluster

        I’ll push back on this one. This is a google doc that was “signed” by about 1500 people who identify themselves as medical students, internists, or doctors. Anyone could sign that shit, basically.

      • Idle Hands

        Yeah It’s fake news. But the fact NPR published this is an indictment of them as an organization and they should never be trusted as a new source by anyone.

      • Rebel Scum

        “White supremacy is a lethal public health issue that predates and contributes to COVID-19,” they wrote.”

        Sure. When people congregate to protest/riot/loot based on a faux narrative that certainly contributes to the spread of all sorts of things.

    • Nephilium

      No. No we don’t.

  2. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I’m burning out on this shit.

    They were looting in Hampton last night. I guess we should feel lucky they didn’t decide to burn it down while they were expressing their discontent with structural racism and white privilege.

    • sloopyinca

      But that would mean the Democrats in Hampton, and the Democrats who are in charge of police oversight for the Commonwealth of Virginia have failed these people, right? The least they’re entitled to is a free pair of kicks and a handbag or two.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        But of course…

        There were rumors that they were going to march on the Prime Outlets in Williamsburg but backed off.

        Now why would someone march at an outlet mall? Hmmmm….

      • sloopyinca

        What about the new outlet mall through the tunnel in Norfolk? No way that wouldn’t be an easier target.

        Also, don’t go to their website unless you’re prepared for social signaling.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        lso, don’t go to their website unless you’re prepared for social signaling.

        AKA begging to be left alone.

      • Overt

        This, BTW, is why I have found some respect for the BLM people. On Twitter, the BLM folks are regularly trying to organize protests at the police station or the city hall near me. Then there are DOZENS of (usually white) kids posting, “I’m trying to organize a *peaceful protest* at South Coast Plaza late tonight or tomorrow night. DM me if interested!”

        It has become a classified pages for looters. If you are going to a protest at a city hall, you are protesting. If you are protesting at one of the richest malls in the nation, you are full of crap.

      • sloopyinca

        I’ll have a lot more respect for any of these people when they offer an unqualified condemnation of the looting and rioting. Because if they’ve done so, it sure hasn’t made the news.

      • Festus

        Yes.

      • Overt

        Meh, I am pretty sick of expecting people to condemn the actions of other people. Like when the media expects Trump to condemn the speech of some city council person wherever. The BLM groups I have watched are clear that they want peaceful protest, and when they end the protest, they thank the attendees and the police for keeping things civil.

        Ok, they don’t add on “And BTW: Fuck all y’all trying to loot!” I wish they did, but they are doing enough to get partial credit, in my book.

      • EvilSheldon

        There were some rumors going around at the Camp, that AFA or some similar bunch of assholes was going to protest at Colonial Williamsburg, because, you know, slavery.

        This had all the signs of a post-classical IT circle jerk, but it still worries me a little because my parents live exactly right there.

    • Nephilium

      Cleveland’s on curfews through today. With overnight curfews until Friday.

      So far, I’ve only heard about spill over into the very closest of the suburbs (like East Cleveland).

    • Rebel Scum

      structural racism

      The structures were built by whites, who are presumed to be racists. And that’s not racist…somehow.

  3. Atanarjuat

    “Racist” has come to mean “anyone who is winning an argument with a progressive” (I forget who to attribute that to). Now to figure out the NewSpeak translation for “public health”.

    • Q Continuum

      For the health of the public, the “racists” must be euthanized.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        With the economy tanking, they might actually get the race war they and the Crying Nazis have always wanted.

    • Overt

      “Public Health” = replacement for “Moral Imperative of War” after 20 years of war has left people unsure of what is so imperative about it.

    • Ted S.

      Government health.

    • juris imprudent

      public health == for the children

    • Spartacus

      Public health == new faddish thing that has potential to increase our budget by 20%.

    • Idle Hands

      So far it’s been a winning argument for keeping the black voters voting democrat. I think thats what this coverage is largely about rekindling trump as a bad racist man. No coincidence we had Biden toilet polling with blacks and his charlamagne interview a mere week ago and now we are here. It’s completely obvious to me this is all astroturf mixed with people looking to do something to get outta the fucking house. This was just a match for a powder keg. None of this will amount to any real structural changes beyond vote democrat because trump is a racist being the theme.

  4. Count Potato

    “But it’s still probably the stupidest shit you will see all day.”

    I do not share your optimism.

    • robc

      I saw a dumber one already this morning.

      • Tulip

        Link?

      • robc

        I was just following some twitter thread, don’t have any idea any more.

    • Rhywun

      That is the fraud from NYT who perpetrated the “1619” hoax on America. She packs enough stupid to last a century.

      • Festus

        OT – Sorry to hear of your troubles, Rhywun. Please feel better.

      • Rhywun

        Thanks

      • Count Potato

        Sorry, I must have missed something?

        So I hope whatever it is gets better.

      • Surly Knott

        Same.
        Best wishes for speedy healing and optimal outcome.

    • PBRstreetgang

      Best from the comments:
      The Left, for the last 4 years: “Words are violence.”

      The Left, today: “Arson, looting, and destruction is not violence.”

      • Fatty Bolger

        Somebody else pointed out that this is classic Doublespeak.

        “Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.”

  5. Festus

    Taking the Knee is lame unless you are actually tired as fuck from playing football in the hot sun.

  6. Q Continuum

    The David Dorn thing is sickening, and proof that it’s people in general that are scum, not just cops. The guy is shot, bleeding out on the ground and pleading for help and bystanders just sit around filming him.

    Call me a misanthrope if you like, but my position on humanity at this point is that an individual is shit unless proven otherwise.

    • sloopyinca

      “Anybody who helps is a white supremacist. Anybody who stands and watches is a well-disciplined white supremacist. Ha ha! Ain’t race war hell?”

      • AlexinCT

        Don’t lead them so much when you are shooting them, right? The women & children….

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      The LARPing dirtbags out there boosting their social media views while filming people getting the snot beat out of them or stores burnt down are almost as bad as the perpetrators. Our society has no moral spine any more.

    • DOOMco

      The person I saw who shared it claimed the filmer had already called the police/emt.
      I don’t have any proof of this.

      It goes back to the beginning. “why don’t they put their phones down and get the officer to not kill a guy in front of them? Cowards.” -ladydoom

      • commodious spittoon

        Living black men aren’t as useful to their cause.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        My wife said the same thing. I responded with

        “they had three choices: do nothing, film the altercation, or intervene and join Floyd in the body bag”

    • bacon-magic

      I saw one of the videos. I fucking cried. Old guy was killed over a TV. His name will be forgotten and the pieces of shit that did it will probably not face justice. Meanwhile you’re a racist redneck if you want to protect small businesses from the “riots are just the voice of the unheard” mobs.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Im not on social media and I don’t watch the news, and I’m still fucking sick of this news cycle. I was reading fucking Django development docs last night and there was a huge fucking banner about #blacklivesmatter. Every other email I get has the word injustice in the subject line. My employer is having calls on a regular basis to discuss a response to this stuff.

        Our culture is diseased. Armchair activism has become a social currency. The personal may be becoming the political, but this all shows the danger of the political becoming personal.

      • bacon-magic

        The shear number of “burn it down” comments on social media are rage inducing. They want society to collapse. “Be careful what you wish for” springs to mind.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        The stuff that bothers me is where cancel culture is intersecting with this. It has switched from being cancelled if you say the wrong thing to being cancelled if you don’t say the right thing. That’s fucking evil, and gets my dander up big time.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        What’s wrong with cancel culture? Honest question

        If you or I see egregious behavior, why should we sit silent and impotent?

      • bacon-magic

        Cancel culture is a tribal tool used to subjugate and wipe out individualism. Wrongthink at it’s finest.

      • Jarflax

        Shunning someone for committing a crime may be a reasonable response, although it creates an outcast/outlaw class. Shunning people for disagreeing with you seems hostile to the concept of tolerance and directed at silencing any discussion of ideas. I don’t say you do not have the right to choose your associates, but I do say that if you refuse to interact with people who have other beliefs you will calcify in yours.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        calcify

        There seems to be some understood notion about cancel culture that I’m missing; I’m not clear on the implications that others seem to infer . . . the question was meant to ask what am I missing? Maybe I should change the question to “what is the difference between cancel culture and making good lifestyle choices to avoid and not finance bad people and bad behavior?”

        As for calcification, is it impossible to grow without embracing bad people? I think get out and read plenty (much of my opposition, for the record)?

        Where’s the line drawn between this cancel culture phenomenon that is (I’m reading) bad and, say, our happy stream of fuck-that-guys we share here?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Cancel culture seeks not to remove yourself from the equation, but that thing you don’t like. You’re not saying you disapprove, arguing against it, and choosing not to participate in it, but seeking to eliminate it from society altogether without further discussion.

        It’s the pop culture version of laws against hate speech.

      • leon

        “what is the difference between cancel culture and making good lifestyle choices to avoid and not finance bad people and bad behavior?”

        I’d say a large part in “Whose ox is being gored”. But i would also say this: 1. Living your life by making your economic decisions (what you buy, and who you buy it from) always dependent on your politics is a recipe for a life of depression and anger.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Cancel culture as a nebulous concept where people socially shun you isn’t a problem in all times and in all places. But it its calibrated to the point where prosocial people are cut off from their most productive jobs, efficient businesses are bankrupted, and valuable members of the community are excluded from contributing due to word choice, its a problem.

        There’s no problem with police arresting, say, a counterfiter. There’s a problem with them executing them in the street.

        There’s no problem with the government charging a toll to cross a bridge they built. There’s a problem when they charge you even when you don’t cross the bridge.

        There’s no problem when I choose not to let my kids play with the family down the block that doesn’t share my values. There’s a problem when I prevent them from earning enough to keep them a happy, content family that has an incentive to be a productive participant of civil society. You know well there’s not much worse than a class of young, unemployed me with nothing to lose and nothing to live for.

      • Jarflax

        Cancel culture is not “making good lifestyle choices.” It is organizing movements to shun people you disagree with. Maybe the ambiguity here is in the word shun. I am using it in the Amish sense. It means to excommunicate, declare anathema, to label the ‘cancelled’ person as untouchable on pain of joining that person as anathema.

        Cancel culture is not saying “I choose not to use heroin because it is harmful”. It is saying if you talk to a VFW member on November 11 you are tainted by the poppy in his lapel.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        pop culture version of laws against hate speech

        Thanks; now we’re getting somewhere.

        I’m good with speech and access for bad ideas; I would prefer, for example, no de-platforming whatsoever.

        But I’m also totally okay with persons and institutions being held accountable in the various markets for bad ideas. Is anyone here suggesting I should assess two services as identical if one is produced by, say, an avowed racist polluter?

        For old and unconnected guys like me, some of the new cool buzz phrases do more to cloud issues that explain them. Is there any more, then, to the cancelling that the de-platforming? Frankly, I’m not finding much in these discussions about the phrase “cancel culture” that I find helpful . . . the phrase just doesn’t seem very useful; it seems to be more of a stand-in that everyone can project different notions onto.

      • Trolleric the Goth

        it’s dangerous to ruin people’s lives over differences in opinion. People with nothing left to lose and a clear and unwavering idea of who put them in that condition might seek to redress their grievances in a direct fashion.

        i.e. look at all the domestic-dispute related murder/suicides

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        What’s wrong with cancel culture?

        1) if it was just basic shunning, I wouldn’t care so much. The fact that it’s an active attempt to destroy a person’s life, career, and reputation is what pushes it over the edge

        2) it’s not being done within a community, it’s being done across society as a whole. At least with shunning (in the Amish style), you’re given an opportunity to live in the “English” society, even if you’re not welcome back home.

        3) there is no opportunity for redemption. You’re liable at all times for all things said, so you can never be confident that an incident is behind you.

      • Ted S.

        The problem with the Hollywood blacklist wasn’t that it existed, but that it was Communists who fell afoul of it.

        Cancel Culture people would have been perfectly fine with it if it had been anti-Communists getting blacklisted.

      • bacon-magic

        An ice cream shop less than a block away from me was vandalized after a protest for a meme the owner posted(apparently it was a Kaepernick/Lewinsky “did you know their name before the knee?” )a fucking meme a few months ago(I guess some Karen was digging through his fb profile and found it). He is now a raccccisssst and they protested, then someone vandalized, aaaaannd then someone let off a huge firework or explosive by it last night. This is in a small town. They don’t care about their community, just their social signalling and the power cancel culture has in their minds.

      • Idle Hands

        They do and I agree. But the political hoipoi doesn’t deserve to survive this. They’ve wrecked everything. If we lived 100 years ago their would be a blood letting over this hopefully that doesn’t happen.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I miss ClarkHat. Ken is a douche.

      • bacon-magic

        *sheer

  7. Count Potato

    “I mean, isn’t he right though? Heaven forbid he actually voice an opinion all people should hold.”

    So we are doing this false dichotomy again?

    • sloopyinca

      It’s true though. Cops kill blacks. Cops kill whites. Cops kill Hispanics. Cops kill Asians.

      Standing in solidarity will more likely end in police reforms a lot more than compartmentalizing races when complaining about abusive cops.

      • Rhywun

        Too bad “police reform” isn’t the goal of any of this.

      • Q Continuum

        Of course not. The last thing the Left wants to do is disempower their private army. They’re gonna need that army to liquidate the Deplorables once they get absolute power.

      • Festus

        You’ve a dark turn of mind. I like you!

      • pan fried wylie

        History is dark, don’t put that on Q.

      • juris imprudent

        Yeah, that might end up hurting the police union, and we can’t be anti-union! /prog-derp

  8. Atanarjuat

    Sorry it’s just a tweet.

    No apology necessary, that is a Cathedral operative frantically trying to regain control of the narrative.

    • Overt

      The funny thing about that statement is how they steal a base insisting that these riots have only damaged property. Right, no one has been killed or grievously injured.

  9. Trigger Hippie

    Man wears clown mask to hide identity when looting and burning, forgets to cover up easily identifiable, stupid fucking neck tattoo.

    That brought a smile.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I love it when stupidity gets the best of people.

    • Rhywun

      Gah! I guess the tattoo is “ironic”.

      • pan fried wylie

        when he got it, maybe/maybenot.

        it definitely is now.

  10. Rhywun

    get rid of their unions in the process

    Hahahahahahaha good one.

  11. Fourscore

    Looks like things are quieting down, until the next event, as when the free money runs out, jobs aren’t available and the temps keep on rising. More shoes to drop.

    • sloopyinca

      “Speaking of shoes dropping, check out our new line of Kaepernick kicks at nike dot com.”
      -upcoming press release

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Eh, no one wants to protest when it is 95 outside.

  12. DOOMco

    I have to talk to my old buddies in Denver. I don’t think they took my advice about buying guns.

  13. Below Sea Level Hell Centro

    Are these fools going to get so emboldened that they push this shit into the suburbs and rual areas? If so, they better be prepared to die for their “cause”.

    • Nephilium

      I don’t think so. The shopping is more spread out, and I think even these morons understand that smashing their way into someone’s house has a high probability of injury for them. I doubt they’re self aware enough to realize that the suburbs are also where (mostly) they live…

    • Naptown Bill

      It sounds like there have been some efforts, but, as someone smarter than me put it, they’re not going to shit where they eat. Urban looters gonna loot because they’re not what you’d call deep thinkers or morally developed. I’m not saying that as a castigation, necessarily, because in some cases you’re looking at people who aren’t in a good place and never had people in their lives to teach them better ways of living, none of which excuses immoral behavior of course. But the suburban rebels, to quote The Business, aren’t going to fuck up their own neighborhoods. I’m not sure how many of them also come to the sound tactical conclusion that people in the ‘burbs and the sticks have a lot to lose, few witnesses, and nearby allies.

    • WTF

      I saw shit about that, but I’m not really worried, because I am well-armed and trained.

  14. Don Escaped Australians

    President of the CSA, Jefferson Davis, was born on this day.

    Davis, Lincoln, and Grant were born inside a tiny ring no more than 200 miles in diameter.

    Personal note: the notion of the loss of frontier as the escape hatch from outsized government is my primary takeaway from Glibs. This has caused me to really wonder about the nature of Union and the powerful motivations at play during the Civil War; IOW, what kind of man is so passionate about getting away from the East to the wildernesses of, say, MN and then, before even completing three full years in the Union, risk everything to go shoot at people, some of whom came from the Original 13 and wanted out?

    • Q Continuum

      “the loss of frontier as the escape hatch from outsized government”

      I think this is an underrated effect that gets overlooked often. “Domesticated” people that want to live under a strong government vs. the archetypal rugged individualist that wants to forge his own path and be ruled by no one. The fact of the matter is that there are very few (no?) places left where the individualist can escape the long dick of the law.

      • Drake

        We’ve discussed before. I think almost everyone here, if young and healthy enough, would gladly pack up and head for the wilderness if it meant freedom.

      • Jarflax

        I think we all say we would. I think maybe a tiny handful actually know what that would entail and still would. The reality is that the motivation was never purely “Me rugged individualist: me go pioneer” it was more “Life sucks as a day laborer without consistent work, I need to own some land” the selection for “rugged individualists” came later when only the people tough enough to survive a winter in an unfinished log cabin with only the food that they had managed to gather in the few months since they arrived survived/were willing to stick it out.

      • Animal

        My grandfather would occasionally quote an old cowboy song, “Greer County:”

        Tom Hight is my name, an old bachelor I am,
        You’ll find me out West in the country of fame,
        You’ll find me out West on an elegant plain,
        And starving to death on my government claim.

        Hurrah for Greer County!
        The land of the free,
        The land of the bed-bug,
        Grass-hopper and flea;
        I’ll sing of its praises
        And tell of its fame,
        While starving to death
        On my government claim.

        My house is built of natural sod,
        Its walls are erected according to hod;
        Its roof has no pitch but is level and plain,
        I always get wet if it happens to rain.

        How happy am I on my government claim,
        I’ve nothing to lose, and nothing to gain;
        I’ve nothing to eat, I’ve nothing to wear,–
        From nothing to nothing is the hardest fare.

        How happy am I when I crawl into bed,–
        A rattlesnake hisses a tune at my head,
        A gay little centipede, all without fear,
        Crawls over my pillow and into my ear.

        Now all you claim holders, I hope you will stay
        And chew your hard tack till you’re toothless and gray;
        But for myself, I’ll no longer remain
        To starve like a dog on my government claim.

        My clothes are all ragged as my language is rough,
        My bread is corn dodgers, both solid and tough;
        But yet I am happy, and live at my ease
        On sorghum molasses, bacon, and cheese.

        Good-bye to Greer County where blizzards arise,
        Where the sun never sinks and a flea never dies,
        And the wind never ceases but always remains
        Till it starves us all out on our government claims.

        Farewell to Greer County, farewell to the West,
        I’ll travel back East to the girl I love best,
        I’ll travel back to Texas and marry me a wife,
        And quit corn bread for the rest of my life.

  15. Q Continuum

    Wait, a racist Pachyderm go primaried? I thought Republikkkanz were the mostest racist people, like, EVAH. Whycome they no vote for racist?

    • Drake

      But nobody answered – when did “western civilization” become offensive?

      • WTF

        “Western Civilization” is just a dog whistle for white supremacy.
        Don’t you even prog, bro?

    • Fourscore

      “Nine-term Congressman Steve King of Iowa”

      18 years is when the Congressional pension kicks in (at age 60?). Don’t cry for Steve, Iowa, he’ll be around for a long, long time.

      Probably end up as a regular ol’ lobbyist

      • Don Escaped Australians

        Probably end up as a regular ol’ lobbyist

        seems like a We Report You Decide kind of guy

  16. Festus

    “Are ya ready Steve? Uh-huh! Andy? Yeah. Nick? Alright fellas, LET’S GOOOO!!!!!” Favorite of sock-hop nation circa 1976. Thanks Man, that brought back some warm memories!

    • Raven Nation

      Yep, awesome childhood memory. It was the first rock song I remember hearing. I was about 11, so kind of my “becoming a teenager “ song.

      • Festus

        Girls on one side of the Gym and boys on the other…

      • Raven Nation

        And thus shall it ever be.

    • Annoyed Nomad

      I enjoyed today’s music selection as well. I then clicked thru to the Sweet channel where Andy Scott did an introductory video. Dear Lord! He looks like he ate the other members of the band! Those skin-tight outfits aren’t going to fit anymore.

  17. Drake

    Last night my son was talking about people he knows from our town who have been the protests and riots and were headed back to places like NYC last night. A few are true-believers in “social justice” and all that. Most are just really bored from having been cooped up and unemployed for 3 months now. Rioting is the only outlet they have for being 19 and bored.

    If the lockdowns in the blue states were fully lifted today, the riots would end today. I’m sure the blue-state governors know it and don’t care.

    • RAHeinlein

      That’s what I’m hearing from my son as well – with an overlay of thrill-seeking.

      • Drake

        Sure – his buddies are all 18 to 20. Can’t go to the gym, school, work, any place to meet girls… Surprised they didn’t start rioting sooner.

      • Festus

        We used to throw shit at cops, too. You can only be 17 once.

    • Chipwooder

      The fact that they’re probably all unemployed at the moment doesn’t help.

    • Naptown Bill

      Yeah, that’s a factor I think. Bored twentysomethings with nothing to do and nowhere to do it suddenly have moral cover to go off the rails.

      • Homple

        Then what will these boys-will-be boys do when Great Depression 2.0 kicks in hard?

        Probably not build Bonneville Dam 2.0 is my guess.

    • sloopyinca

      Let’s be honest here: Ben Affleck is there trolling for pussy now that his kids’ nanny is “too old” for him.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      ‘Justice for Floyd.’

      For the love of God. The cop was arrested. It’s coming. What the heck are they babbling about?

      • WTF

        Yeah, I’m curious as to what exactly they want to happen for the riots protests to end.

      • AlexinCT

        The could give one shit about the riots not ending: they are trying real hard to keep the rioters away from their shit. It’s the whole idea of feeding the crocodile your neighbor so they hopefully don’t eat your ass that is at work here. These rich elitist fucks don’t give a real fuck about any of this beyond what Tee-Vee time it gets them.

      • pan fried wylie

        A vaccine for racism, moran.

    • Festus

      So tired of this. Like exhausted. Woke up today and aches and pains were worse and barely made it through my shifts. Probably gots the Ebola.

      • Q Continuum

        That’s the whole point of all of this. Hold the country hostage and wear the populace down until they acquiesce. We all know the only way to stop this is to get rid of BadOrangeMan so they plan on making life so intolerable people will do anything to make it stop.

        Fuck em all.

      • Festus

        One manufactured crisis after another.

      • WTF

        Yup, and that is the purpose behind the continued blue-state covid restrictions, requiring arbitrary acts of compliance even though the virus ran its course some time ago.

    • Idle Hands

      Ana de Armas is so hot.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        No shit, scary hot

    • Agent Cooper

      Ben’s scribble on a piece of notebook paper is the least he could do, really.

  18. Count Potato

    “Hicks has been identified as having helped hatch the plan for the staged event that saw police and National Guard forces facilitate by using tear gas and rubber bullets to clear away peaceful protesters.

    The move was conceived as a way to allow Trump to demonstrate his self-proclaimed role as the ‘law and order president’ and – came after the president vowed to use the military to restore order in cities across the country after protests broke out nation wide following the death of George Floyd, a black man who died after a white cop knelt on his neck for eight minutes.

    As a PR move, Trump’s photo-op may have backfired, after global and national media broadcast images of shield-bearing and mounted police using force to clear Lafayette Park, an area whose use as a forum for demonstrations and speech has long been protected. ”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8381977/Ivanka-Trump-carried-Bible-Donald-Trump-posed-1-540-Max-Mara-handbag.html

    • Overt

      I think I have figured Trump out. He is, through and through, a reality TV star. If his Trump Tower contestants were clicking along, clearly leading against some other team, no one would make it through the commercial to see what they inevitably think will happen. The contestants need to make a critical mistake to get some tension into the show so that people keep tuning in.

      This is the only reason I can come up with for such a seemingly obtuse set of moves over the last couple days. He is trying to keep us tuning in.

      • Festus

        That makes no sense. The Media are the ones that profit from his idiocy, not the other way around. If he wanted to be as rich as Croesus he’d have stayed away from the rabble and kept building shit.

      • Overt

        (Sorry, I was being tongue in cheek)

      • Naptown Bill

        I don’t know, I think this is both red meat for his base and campaign material for his reelection. Dave Smith had a great take on it. Trump takes the more extreme version of a view that most reasonable people will take, i.e. “Looting and rioting is bad” becomes “I’m going to send in the 101st to kill all the looters!” The left reflexively takes the opposite side because they hate Trump–“You’re a Nazi! Those are innocent protestors!”–which puts them on the side that is arguing against taking action against rioters and looters. Trump speaks in hyperbole (because he’s a hyperbolic person, in part, I suspect) and then is forced to moderate, but because he is the CIC he can take unilateral action that can be judged as well as his rhetoric, where his opposition either can’t act at all, e.g. CNN, or can only act in concert with others, e.g. Pelosi et al.

        My prediction is that when we get closer to the election we’re going to start seeing ads with Trump standing in front of a church holding a Bible juxtaposed against Joe Biden being himself layered with scenes of urban chaos and destruction. I think we just saw him clear protestors out of the street in order to film a campaign ad in front of a church.

      • Idle Hands

        That’s exactly what happened. I don’t know what to tell people who don’t get this. Nobody likes looters nobody. Trump is going to win on this issue long term is an incredibly safe bet.

      • Naptown Bill

        Exactly. It’s a form of motte-and-bailey that you usually see from the left. That’s his deal, he beats them at their own game.

      • Floridaman

        No, the point is he can’t be seen making the first move, in effect do not fire unless fired upon is in play

      • Festus

        You and Nap are both correct. He’s dealing with a delicate situation and he’s not the man for the job.

    • Agent Cooper

      They did not use TEAR gas.

  19. Don Escaped Australians

    No Mercy / No Malice

    OT: Which one of you bastards is this?

    What if a loud mouth populist was actually right about a few things? I’ve just started watching Galloway’s cable on-demand videos, and I think he’s powerful in a loud, Trumpian way. I’d rank him 80% right about 80% of the time (that’s a very early rating), so, even though he’s terribly wrong in certain areas and poorly motivated in many ways, he does have the power to move some conventional thinkers in more thoughtful directions.

    At a minimum, he might motivate some critical thinking: he’s questioning standard narratives, pointing out why some ideas will never work, and he seems like someone you might not agree with politically but still would be content to have as a neighbor or fishing buddy.

    • Q Continuum

      “80% right about 80% of the time”

      That’s pretty damn good for a talking head.

      • Festus

        I’ll cop to getting sucked into the echo chamber from time to time but, yeah.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        Dave Ramsey has my highest endorsement ever: 90% right 90% of the time

      • leon

        Of course you forgot me. Who am 100% right 100% of the time.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        Leon2020: you know he’s right!

      • pan fried wylie

        *Who are

        dumas

      • Mojeaux

        tHaT’s ThE jOkE

      • pan fried wylie

        I didn’t correct it correctly, did I?

      • Mojeaux

        *headdesk* @ me

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Speaking of Dave Ramsey, selling the house got us through baby steps 2* and 3.

        Once we settle into the new rental in the coming days, increased retirement savings, college savings and a down payment fund will be set on autopilot.

        Feels damn good to not have any non-housing-related payments!

        * technically there’s still a bit over $35k left on my student loan, but the money is sitting in an account and will pay off over the next year as I take advantage of a student loan payoff program at my company.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        congrats !

        The joy of financial freedom (that’s a loaded phrase, but Dave’s really onto something there) is nearly impossible to describe to people on the other side. If you encourage budgeting, the confrontational scale of the debtor’s situation is often horrifying and stunning; most people will default to doing nothing and stewing, their budget for life forever reduced by the fraction wasted on interest. Occasionally I will shake someone to his senses by asking: a/ how much money do you think you will make in the rest of your life? b/ how much of that would you like to piss away on interest?

        In almost every way imaginable, the joy of freedom cannot be explained to or sold to serfs.

    • juris imprudent

      No one can motivate critical thinking in people that refuse to think critically, which is most humans.

      • Festus

        Water>Horses>Drink

  20. Nephilium

    In news from Columbus, an Ohio chain taco place has closed after staff walked out instead of filling an order for police. The chain closed the restaurants in question, and there are conflicting reports as to if the staff was fired or not.

    • Rhywun

      Collectivist assholes. Next step, cops refuse to enter that neighborhood. Rinse, repeat, I’ve seen this story before.

      • Nephilium

        Unless things have changed a lot since the last time I was down there. The area in question is one of the nicer suburban areas of Columbus.

      • Agent Cooper

        It’s Polaris. North of the outerbelt. Close to the tonier burbs of Powell and Lewis Center. A lot of people, however, are now boycotting Condado in return.

        The real problem with Condado is that their food is horribly overpriced.

      • Nephilium

        The real problem with Condado is that their food is horribly overpriced.

        Completely agree here. I’m more entertained by the fighting between Barrio and Condado over the same concept (IIRC, the owner of Condado was a partial owner of Barrio and got bought out).

      • Fatty Bolger

        Hasn’t changed. It’s the biggest retail center in the city, with lots of hotels and office buildings.

  21. Q Continuum

    Looking at headlines in the local news, looks like “racism” in socialist America has officially become the “insanity” of the USSR. You did something wrong, you were declared insane and sent away to be “cured”. Sounds like “racism” is going the same way.

    We’ve got: “‘The old normal isn’t what we have to go back to’: Organizers say change is the message of the movement”
    and: “9NEWS is holding a town hall on racism in Colorado”
    and: “Racism is a societal issue we all have to correct”

    This is all meaningless pablum. It’s akin to “I support cute kittens and condemn cancerous tumors! Let’s have a town hall to discuss how we can change society for the better for cute kittens and correct people’s thinking on cancerous tumors!” Just like the WoD and the WoT, the upcoming War on Racism is going to have no effect other than destroying civil liberties and further restricting debate.

    • WTF

      They don’t care about real racism, they are looking to define racism as any political opinion that doesn’t comport with leftism. So yeah, it is exactly like the Soviet’s “insanity”, wherein any wrongthink gets labeled as racism, and the person’e life is ruined as a lesson to others. They failed in their de-facto attempts to repeal the first amendment, so now they are moving on to plan B.

    • pan fried wylie

      I condemn cancerous tumors ON cute kittens who frolic under the glow of double rainbows.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      9NEWS is holding a town hall on racism in Colorado”

      This reminds me of the time I saw a black guy walking around Cherry Creek with a sign that said, “Check it out, a black guy.” I couldn’t help but notice it was a joke so I pointed like a 4 year old and said, “Hey look, its a black guy!”

  22. leon

    re the dumb public health experts. I don’t know why your focusing on that. It’s not like the SCOTUS has said you can abridged basic rights just on the say so of public health experts.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Public health experts have revealed themselves a huge problem for society eh?

      First, they keep fear-mongering about Da Rona keeping lockdowns in place and now declare racism a public menace.

      This shit is out of hand now.

      And there’s no way to reverse track. This is the frightening part.

      We lost the culture wars people.

      • Overt

        “We lost the culture wars people.”

        This. I can barely keep my kids open to the possibility that there may be two sides to these stories. Between their teachers, friends, and TikTubeBook videos spoonfeeding them pablum in 10 second quips, they are completely overwhelmed by RightThink.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Look. Either they can waste their time on racism, or gun control. I’m making it your call.

    • Q Continuum

      Someone who goes to the trouble of getting a “GO VOTE” vanity plate is pretty unbalanced to begin with.

    • Chipwooder

      From the LP candidate to Nanny Mike in just four short years!

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        What difference, at this point, does it really make?

      • Jarflax

        There is a difference?

    • robc

      Not at all confused. Squish republican who was a never-trumper, so voted Johnson in 2016, then switched to squish republican Bloomberg this year.

    • EvilSheldon

      Somebody let his buddies decorate his truck after a 12-pack?

    • Idle Hands

      No they aren’t. McCain, Bloomberg, Romney are basically the same person. Johnson had Weld on his ticket who is basically those other three. And black lives matter is so hot right now.

    • pan fried wylie

      An ass riot would be pretty likely to occur inside pants.

  23. Juvenile Bluster

    Steve King losing his primary is a wonderful thing. Now if only his IRA-loving namesake Peter can also get thrown out of Congress, maybe we’d get somewhere.

    And then maybe if about 531 more of his fellow Congresspeople were kicked out (I’m saving Amash, Massie and Wyden (nowhere near perfect, but actually cares about civil liberties)) we’d be in even better shape.

    • sloopyinca

      The right to keep and bear arms is a civil liberty. Ron Wyden hates the second amendment. Fuck Ron Wyden.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        Look, I know he’s not perfect, but I’m grading on a scale here. If we kick him out Oregon will elect someone who still hates the 2nd but also, unlike Wyden, doesn’t give a shit about the 1st or the 4th.

      • Q Continuum

        The unfortunate truth is that people in general don’t give a shit about the BoR. Elected officials are a reflection of the constituency, whether we like it or not. People love to pay lip service to freedom, but in reality they don’t like it all that much.

      • sloopyinca

        Wyden doesn’t give a shit about the 1A. He’s a huge proponent of Net Neutrality and wants the government to break up large tech companies who “hide behind neutrality”.

        Read his own words: https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/24/17606974/oregon-senator-ron-wyden-interview-internet-section-230-net-neutrality

        I think the ball right now is in the industry’s court with a sense of urgency. If they don’t step up and use the sword of the law to police their platforms, whether they like it or not, there’s no question that there will be additional efforts, basically built around the proposition, don’t tell us your pipes are neutral. They’re not. They’re pipes that have to be used for the benefit of society.

        I repeat: fuck Ron Wyden.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Amen. NY’s third senator can fuck right off. And Merkley is an even bigger idiot.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        And fuck Amash. He supported a Deep-State coup to replace the elected President with people intent on turning this country into a Socialist hell-hole.

        There’s only a handful of non-Dem congresscritters who more anti-liberty and anti-freedom than Amash. Scratch one now that McCain is gone.

      • bacon-magic

        ^

  24. Rufus the Monocled

    Two words I’m seeing a little too much at the moment: They’re insured.

    Also another ‘idea’ they’re floating around is ‘defund the police’. This world has lost its mind.

    Someone needs to seriously start fighting for the narrative back. Black on white and black on black police violence is statistically higher than white on black.

    Because the lies were allowed to keep floating without a response – black sports personalities for example on the radio just spew off all kinds of shit without a single push back. I guess now in Ohio I’d be racist for saying this.

    Blacks will continue to face problems until they settled their fatherless problem. It starts there. It shouldn’t surprise anyone once in society the cops have to deal wth the problems – in their way. They’re not baby sitters. They’re cops.

    But the great travesty is they have managed to convinced people the problem is ‘white privilege’.

    As for this incident, did racism have anything to do with it? Or is anything that has a ‘white on black’ calculus considered racist?

    • Q Continuum

      Don’t you understand Rufus? Insurance money just falls from the sky like mana from Heaven. Gaia understand the pain of the eggs that must be broken to make this omelet and will compensate them in the form of magic money that will flow from her money vagina. Unless of course you’ve ever had an impure thought in your life related to capitalism, racism, LGBTQWERTY+++, etc. and then your life is forfeit.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        You’d think anyone who ever tried to make a homeowner’s insurance claim would know your life doesn’t stop sucking after your stuff has turned to ash.

      • AlexinCT

        Do not buy the “They are insured” line. Unless you buy this rider (and pay a lot of extra cash, which most people living in the blue impacted cities are sure to avoid) insurance will not cover looting. Most of these places are downright fucked. Insurance will NOT pay, and even when they are owed because they were prescient enough to get the rider, it will take forever to collect.

      • pan fried wylie

        her money vagina

        I’ll be in my bank.

    • Juvenile Bluster

      Reform laws, get rid of drug laws and any other laws about victimless crimes (prostitution, etc.). Then seriously cut down on the size of police forces and cut their budgets substantially. Does that work?

      • Q Continuum

        Priority #1: Get rid of qualified immunity for G-d’s sake.

      • juris imprudent

        As much as I agree with getting rid of QI, that won’t entirely solve the problem. It simply allows victims to be compensated. Not a bad thing, but it will be a long, long time before the financial pain of that drives actual changes to accountability. The cop unions must be destroyed. No collective bargaining for any public employee. No protection of bad workers.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        There *is* no financial pain. Even when QI is defeated and there’s a substantial judgment, the judgment is paid for by the taxpayers, not the police.

        Abolish QI and make the police themselves pay for the judgments. Either by insurance, which gets progressively more expensive as they continue to protect more bad cops, or out of their budget itself. Or better yet, out of the pension fund.

      • Naptown Bill

        The professional liability portion is new to me and I think it’s an amazing idea. Treat police as individual contractors, or police departments as contractors, and hold them specifically accountable for damages they cause.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        Individual contractors as an idea sort of closes the circle back to root cause; I prefer that way of thinking.

        It’s noble to think about the tinkering with operational structure, but that tends to address symptoms instead of root causes. Police excess is partially the few-bad-eggs thing, but the main problem is the urge for the large nanny state, and I don’t know how you fix that: people on both sides of the police debate still want, at the end of the day, for government to make it all right, kiss their booboos, and tuck them in at night. I must say I’m not much interested in the right way to have too many police enforcing too many laws.

        The independent contractor is emblematic of correct thinking: a focus on accountable agents hired as needed instead of installed as permanent overhead; it’s good thinking much like general privatization is, and it has the happy residues of clear accounting: we know what we paid and what we got and whether we should do it again next bid or next budget.

      • Naptown Bill

        Well I think a major obstacle to genuine reform is that people in general have been acclimatized to think of policing as the domain of the state, and so they begin with the assumption that any police force must necessarily be a government agency. Which is crazy, because most civil services they interact with follow the private contractor model–garbage collection, infrastructure construction–and they get things like gas and electricity from private companies as well. For that matter, security, armed or not, is generally a private company inside most buildings and spaces they enter. It’s just the biggest, best case of brainwashing that’s ever been pulled, I think.

      • Viking1865

        I think federalism and localism would go a long way as well. Theres over 100,000 people living in Harlem, but it’s patrolled by the NYPD. There’s not any reason the Harlem PD cant be formed, with it’s own governing body that answers to the people that actually live in Harlem.

        Economies of scale have value, but when you’re looking at armed agents of the State, the smaller and more local you can get, the better.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        best case of brainwashing that’s ever been pulled

        that’s well put

      • Gustave Lytton

        Increasing the cost of employment, such as through liability insurance, will get passed to the employer in one form or another. Either they will pay higher wages to cover the premiums, pay the premiums directly, or self-insure/provide the insurance themselves. Trying to use liability insurance to reign in cops is similar to using campaign finance limits to get money out of politics. It doesn’t address the root problems.

      • Gustave Lytton

        That said, QI needs to go anyways. Along with the companion different standard for criminal liability for their actions vs a non police citizen.

      • Naptown Bill

        Yeah, but if you follow that logic to its end you wind up with police costing so much that maintaining a significant force is cost-prohibitive. Sub-federal political entities can’t print money like the Fed, so they’ve got to get it from the marks, er, people. Eventually, as Margaret Thatcher put it, you run out of other people’s money.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        maintaining a significant force is cost-prohibitive

        Exactly correct . . . and thoroughly desirable.

        Next station: jurisdictions forced to decide which laws to prioritize enforcing since they can’t afford wall-to-wall cops. Why, they’d be reduced to policing violent crime and a bit of property crime * auto-swoons *

      • leon

        Next station: jurisdictions forced to decide which laws to prioritize enforcing since they can’t afford wall-to-wall cops. Why, they’d be reduced to policing violent crime and a bit of property crime * auto-swoons *

        The current situation shows that Plenty of DA’s are completely fine with not enforcing against violent crimes, and focusing on the political “crimes”.

      • Viking1865

        I actually saw a proggy blue check mark on Twitter who wrote

        1. QI has to go.

        2. The Police unions must be eliminated

        3. We need fewer laws, in general.

        Proggie blue check saying that shit. Like, HEY WELCOME TO THE PARTY PAL.

      • Naptown Bill

        Real liberals standing around like, “YEAH, DUH!”

      • pan fried wylie

        The unicorns in that crowd agree.

    • PieInTheSky

      black on black police violence – there is no such thing. those cops are not really black

      • juris imprudent
    • Chipwooder

      The shit-for-brains “durrrr insured!” comments do nothing but betray the ignorance of the person saying it. Buildings are insured. The contents of those building, eg inventory, usually is not. So, the building owner may be compensated, but tenant business owners won’t be.

      • straffinrun

        They should’ve shared their profits with random POCs.

      • egould310

        Inventory sure is hell is insured under personal property policies. If your company owns inventory, it’s insured.

      • Overt

        Most insurance for businesses specifically excludes damages due to “Civil Unrest”. Insurance companies are there for one time, isolated robberies or fires. They cannot and will not pay for an entire city being bombed.

      • WTF

        Many policies have exclusions for civil unrest. Especially in areas likely to experience civil unrest. So many of these business owners are well and truly fucked.

    • Nephilium

      Speaking of that… Armed business owners seen near Cleveland protest .

      They also said they learned their insurance would not cover any damages that would happen from a possible riot. “We have to protect our business.. we have to take precaution,” they told us.

      Good on them. For reference, this is less then five miles from my house.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      Here in MSP the push to “defund police” is shorthand (at least for policy wonks) to abolish the MPD as it currently stands and reinstitute it as a brand new organization with lower pay, lower budgets, unarmed agents, and residency requirements.

      IOW, just about as likely to happen as the “solve the gay marriage issue by getting government out of the marriage buisness”. But nice to dream about…

  25. Drake

    So a few Antifa moron really did head out to a suburban California town. Did NOT go well.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Yucaipa is almost the sticks, not good for the Stupids,LOL!

  26. AlmightyJB

    Great tune! Had that 45:)

  27. leon

    Yesterday the looter apologists were saying that lives were more important than stuff, so it’s okay that people are stealing because that are doing it to fight against police brutality. If you think they are wrong, you need to get your priorities straight.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      I remember but two months ago saving lives is more important than the economy.

      Let’s see if I follow the logic of the enemies of the people in the media: Destroy the economy (despite it leading to its own misery and deaths through unintended consequences) to ‘save lives from Covid and destroy ‘bricks and mortar (despite the loss of life and injuries to innocent people) to ‘fight racism’.

      Totes legit principles.

  28. cyto

    Quick confession….. I don’t do twitter. So I am no expert in the way twitter works.

    But over the last couple of days I’ve clicked on a handful of twitter links from here and elsewhere. I’m not logged in, don’t have an account, so I assume I’m getting the bog-standard default. And under the linked tweet there is a section called “Replies” then another section called “more tweets”

    The “more tweets” section seems to be entirely notables making anti-Trump tweets. Presumably these are the “promoted by twitter” tweets.

    In this morning’s tweet, I have congresswoman Bass saying that Trump is inciting violence, with a picture of Trump holding up a bible.

    Same group has Cuomo at the very top:

    Andrew Cuomo
    @NYGovCuomo
    ·
    Jun 1
    The president is calling out the American military against American citizens.

    He used the military to push out a peaceful protest so he could have a photo op at a church.

    It’s all just a reality TV show for this president.

    Shameful.

    Uh… I know that he’s just repeating what CNN told him…. but isn’t every word of that a lie?

    Didn’t the park police say that they cleared the area – not on orders from the white house but because they were having water bottles thrown at them? And I know that CNN reported that the president ordered the photo op because he was embarassed by talk of hiding in a bunker… .but isn’t the truth that he wanted to show solidarity with the churches when a historic church across the street had been hit by arson? According to the initial reports, the secret service was caught completely off guard and had to go scrambling to take up positions on nearby buildings….

    So…. where’s the fact-check? I thought that was the new standard? Or is it what we suspected from the jump…. just a wrapper for political speech intended to blunt the ability of political opponents to convince people of their position?

    • Juvenile Bluster

      This is more of a he said, he said kind of thing. I’m not one to trust a police force when they say “no, we didn’t do this! Trust us!”

      • cyto

        They said “we did do this” though. The capital park police said they cleared the square because of bottles being thrown. Now, maybe that was a lie. Maybe I got it wrong.. whatever….

        But they “fact checked” Trump for saying that going to all-mail elections would lead to increased voter fraud. They said that this was not only a lie, but such a blatant lie that it required an immediate counter, attached with their imprimatur. Meanwhile, they promote Cuomo’s tweet to the top…. and it is factually untrue… not “I disagree with your opinion” untrue… factually untrue.

        It would seem to put the lie to their entire claim about wanting to avoid spreading “disinformation”.

      • Viking1865

        I don’t know if you’ve been to the White House, but theres basically a driveway through the lawn that dumps out at Lafayette Park. They torched the guardhouse that’s sitting at the end of the driveway. That’s on video, that’s not a cop press release. It’s a fact, not propaganda.

        If you torch the guardhouse that’s ~100 feet from the Oval Office, they’re gonna push the perimeter back. Kinda sick of this PEACEFUL PROTESTER when theres literally shit on fire. A crowd can be unruly, profane, loud, whatever. When you burn a building, you lose the peaceful crowd designation.

      • Overt

        The guard house was torched the night before.

        Cyto- I get what you are saying, but I think it is pretty clear here that Trump was putting on a show here. People had been throwing shit all day. That is what happens at these protests. Yet the police were content to keep them contained. Curfew was still a half hour away.

        It absolutely strains credibility that Trump just spontaneously decided to go to that park. No, that shit gets planned- especially when he walks there and holds up a bible for the camera. There is no way in the world that ANY President of the US walks out of the White House grounds, and into a park, where there have been violent protests without the Secret Service, and police and park rangers knowing about it. They knew he was coming.

        As to what he was trying to do with the Church, and bible I don’t know. I don’t hate Trump, but I’ve never been a huge supporter. It seemed to me to be awkward and crass. But I also don’t hold it against him. He is not the first president to do awkward and crass photo ops (Having a beer to talk race relations, anyone?).

        The funny thing is that whenever Trump does these things, he is guaranteed to polarize the nation more. He gives enough for the press to feel justified in playing it up, but it isn’t THAT bad, which makes all his supporters feel like once again it is too unfair.

      • Don Escaped Australians

        awkward and crass

        What point was made? What purpose was served? Who was helped by the bible wagging?

        Two Corinthians, y’all.

    • cyto

      Robert Reich
      @RBReich
      ·
      11h
      I have held off using the f word for three and a half years, but there is no longer any honest alternative. Trump is a fascist, and he is promoting fascism in America.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I need crazy pills.

      • cyto

        from the same list of promoted tweets:

        Robert Reich
        @RBReich
        ·
        Jun 2
        Where is Congress? Where is the Supreme Court? Where are the mayors and governors? Living former presidents? Where are the university presidents, foundation heads, religious leaders, corporate leaders, union heads, editors and publishers? All must stand up to Trump’s madness.

      • Naptown Bill

        Well, Bob, they’re protecting the police from any real reform while trying to figure out how they can spin this into a reelection campaign, as you well know.

      • cyto

        There ya go! Spot on.

      • Rhywun

        I have an F-word for Robert Reich.

      • juris imprudent

        “Fu” is all you need, the rest will just go over his head.

      • Chipwooder

        “We’re out of milk, FU” It took me two weeks to figure out that FU was Felix Unger!

      • cyto

        Wow. You R old.

        I’m old for knowing the reference.

      • Chipwooder

        Not THAT old – the movie came out eight years before I was born. I just appreciate the classics.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        +1 linguini ?

    • leon

      Fact checks are for social enemies.

      • cyto

        What was it we keep saying about progressives…. all projection, all the time? From the same list of promoted tweets….

        jelani cobb
        @jelani9
        ·
        Jun 2
        You’re kidding yourself if you think this dude would ever leave office peacefully, under any circumstances.

      • leon

        So when trump leaves peacefully all the politicians who said otherwise (looks at nancy pelosi) will be punished by their constituents.

      • cyto

        I was more thinking of all the politicians and press who jumped on Trump with “will you accept the election results when you lose”…… including Herself.

        And then they began calling Trump a dictator before he even took office… ..yet it was the Obama administration that failed in the peaceful transfer of power. It was the Obama administration that took extensive steps to sabotage the incoming administration. Steps that were actively colluded with by the press… the New York Times ran a story days after the inauguration about the setup of classified information to be leaked after he took office. This was the phony Russia story. The New York Times not only got the leaks, the leakers were bragging about it on their very pages… yet the Times actively participated in the scheme to prevent the transition to the newly elected president for another 2.5 years.

        So not just “this is what we want to do, but we are gonna put it on you”…. but this is what they actively did, and how they continue to act and think.

      • sloopyinca

        We might start finding out more about what happened today when Rosenstein is put under oath.

      • WTF

        The riots will prevent that shit from getting out.

    • Mojeaux

      I wish they would stop making me want to defend Trump.

      I’m not going to, but the mis/disinformation is making me twitchy.

    • Q Continuum

      Aliens say “no signs of intelligence life on this planet, let’s move on”.

    • cyto

      No mention in the article as to the meaning of the graffiti…

      ACAB and Fuck 12 are Antifa anti-police slogans.

      • leon

        I know it’s collectivists but i can get behind ACAB.

      • cyto

        That is kinda a libertarian leaning mantra… but the specific formulation says that it was Antifa dudes who did it. Kinda like signing your work.

        The point being… .do you think they’d avoid saying “this graffiti signifies support for Trump” if someone tagged the CNN van with MAGA and set it on fire?

  29. Apples and Knives

    Monday night, Little Rock’s mayor set the curfew at 10PM. He then met the protesters at the state capitol a little before curfew started and led them away from the gathered police and state police, breaking the curfew himself. He led them to the main business district… where they proceeded to graffiti, smash windows (including the bank across the street from my office) and try to steal an ATM

    Last night he said ‘oops’ and bumped the curfew back to 8. I haven’t heard the full report on damage last night but I heard helicopters overhead most of the night.

    • AlmightyJB

      Yeah, I heard the idea passed around the twitters a day or two ago, first time I heard about someone actually doing it.

    • Count Potato

      Legend.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      If true, that’s the most fantastic thing I’ve heard in weeks.

  30. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloop!

    The world gets stupider by the minute.

    Regarding the Minneapolis union boss, he was always this stupid and the sole reason there will never be meaningful change in the MPD. What purpose does it serve? Victim blaming is his only move. That piece of shit will flog the thin blue line until it’s raw. Asshole.

    I haven’t even looked yet this morning to see how much more of my city has burned down. EAP said yesterday the NG went to live ammo, so maybe that slowed things down?

    Bah.

    Great song! AS a matter of fact they had a few others that were first rate. Like this one!

    Special bonus (so to speak) in the video.

    Have a great day people! Don’t hurt anyone or take their shit, ok?

    • AlmightyJB

      I had that 45 as well:)

    • cyto

      Talking with my cop friends – zero defenders.

      Talking with a conservative lawyer friend, former prosecutor for a handful of years, now a corporate attorney…. he thinks the guy’s defense team is going to have a lot to work with. But he thinks like a lawyer… always looking for holes, always being contrarian.

      He says the dude was on Fentanyl and the cops thought he was having a reaction to drugs. According to his take, they were putting the guy in the police vehicle when he starts kicking and going nuts… so they restrain him from hurting someone. The story is that the police had already called for EMS and had struggled with him for some time before he was kneeling on him….

      Autopsy report says no bruising on neck.

      Lawyer says that his defense team is going to have plenty of material from all of that to create reasonable doubt.

      My counter was “if you had that video and he wasn’t a cop, you’d win a conviction 100 times out of 100”.

      He reminded me that he lost a case prosecuting prison guards who slammed a handcuffed and shackled prisoner to the floor – killing him. District judge threw out the case – said that throwing someone to the concrete floor while handcuffed and shackled was not negligence.

      • leon

        I’d agree that it isn’t negligence, it’s malice.

      • Idle Hands

        I expect a not guilty because of overcharging, followed by a wrongful termination suit and full backpay awarded along with a pension reinstatement. And no meaningful change occurring from this at all. Especially because I’ve seen not one meaningful reform proposed except get out and vote or something.

      • Idle Hands

        Oh and end systematic racism, abolish police and end white supremacy. All of which I’m sure are elected leadership will get right on.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        If that turns out to be true and this cop gets off….OMFG. Watch out.

      • WTF

        The feds will then prosecute him under federal civil rights law, because fuck double jeopardy.

      • R C Dean

        The story is that the police had already called for EMS

        Easily verified, if true. Curious, also, that they apparently believed he was too violent to put in the back of a cruiser, but were perfectly willing to give him to an ambulance crew.

        struggled with him for some time before he was kneeling on him….

        It will be interesting to see if there is any corroboration for the cop’s testimony on that front.

        Autopsy report says no bruising on neck.

        Irrelevant. Just being facedown and handcuffed restricts respiration. You can put sufficient pressure on someone’s neck to further restrict respiration and blood flow without bruising them.

        He says the dude was on Fentanyl and the cops thought he was having a reaction to drugs

        Opioids suppress respiration. If the cops really thought he was hopped up on drugs, the cops did about the worst thing they could do, short of just putting a bullet in him.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      And remember, Kroll wins in a landslide every election. Our Brave Boys in Blue love him.

      And if that doesn’t prove the rot goes to the core, nothing will.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Union elections are even more corrupt and manipulated than political ones.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Look man, I’m from Pittsburgh. I’ve been targeted by Teamsters (for unknowingly transporting my little prototype widget to a manufacturing plant in the trunk of my car so I could see how it plugs in). I understand how unions works.

        The police love this man, and he’s more awful than run-of-the-mill awful union shitheel.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’ve been somewhat in the inside, having worked in union jobs and been involved in supposed oversight of the local’s budget (what a joke, glad I wasn’t there long enough to get tagged with anything). The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

  31. PieInTheSky

    Remember that throw away line from Simpsons about “Dogs with bees in their mouth that spit bees when they bark”? I decided to make a creepy monster based off that idea for D&D. The Hive Hound

    https://twitter.com/GamerofOzz/status/1267946394050088960

    • AlexinCT

      Are those killer Asian hornets with COVID infections?

  32. pan fried wylie

    I never knew Liev Schreiber had such fabulous gams. Or a conjoined female sibling.

    They really do some amazing things with CGI.

  33. straffinrun

    “Many are questioning on whether they should remain silent or listen. I feel if you truly want to be an ally silence is not an option. Number one thing for you to do today is to LISTEN and ask questions. Reach out to your friends of color and see how they are doing. Express your thoughts even if it’s that you don’t know how to feel. We need to know that you actually care. And if your gay world is is devoid of any friends or acquaintances of color, ask yourself why?”

    This kind of shit is popping up all over my FB. Use it for work and that’s it, but that doesn’t stop work associates from posting stuff like this. I’m guessing they don’t want me to express my thoughts.

    • Idle Hands

      I think the best point I saw on all of this is if you have the same politics as pepsi and burger king you probably aren’t promoting an engine of change.

      • leon

        Nor do you present a unique and diverse perspective.

      • straffinrun

        That’d work. I just don’t want to respond to people who feel the need to “send a message to white people”.

      • leon

        Ugh. White Fragility. Can’t handle people shaking your white supremacists world view? /

        The trouble is that there is no talking with them. Either you agree to prostrate yourself for the sin of being white, or you are a white supremacist.

    • EvilSheldon

      I don’t truly want to be an ally, but thanks for asking!

    • R C Dean

      I feel if you truly want to be an ally

      Why would I want to be an ally to violent and/or commie front organizations?

  34. AlexinCT

    Sorry it’s just a tweet. But it’s still probably the stupidest shit you will see all day.

    Am I going to be able to present some asshat with this tweet the next time some overgrown crybaby complains about how they are microaggressed? Cause they should be held to the standards they demand others apply to shit they like.

  35. Drake

    Unity At Last: Klansman And Rich Liberal Activist Join In Celebration As Black Neighborhood Burns Down

    • cyto

      Wow.. Smarter analysis than anything I’ve seen on NBC or CNN from a christian parody news site.

      That’s rough, dudes.

    • Naptown Bill

      You’re right. It’s really easy for me in particular to get caught up in all this shit and feel a genuine sense of despair at the way people close to me are talking about and reacting to this stuff. A couple hours in the backyard in the sun with a chelada watching my kids goof off helps a hell of a lot.

      • Mojeaux

        I have way too much on my plate (and am way too ensconced in my little socio-economic bubble) (even though I’m broke I have options) to much care about any of it COVID, riots, whatever. No, I care, but I can’t CARE. I can’t afford to CARE because my sanity depends on filtering out information that is not necessary to my family’s immediate (and long-term) betterment.

        Right now my sanity is taken up by a very needy and micromanaging client who is exhausting.

      • robc

        On a related note, I have read about the first dozen chapters of C&C (from your site with the first 3rd posted free). I find the story compelling, I figure I will quit about the time it turns into a romance novel.

      • Mojeaux

        Thank you!

        The whole thing is a romance novel (but, in case you want to know the moment it gets squishy, it’s somewhere around chapter 90) (of 101).

        She’s just trying to get out of the friend zone for most of the book. The jousts and war and dead-of-night incursions into an enemy fortress are incidental to the whole thing.

      • robc

        Yeah, I figured my “romance novel” comment was off. But I think you knew what I meant.

        By the way, see my post below #55. That was kind of targeted at you (although input from any glib would be appreciated).

      • Mojeaux

        Yep, that’s okay. I say I write romance even though many people do not read them that way. For instance, my pirate novel. Half the people who complained though it was a Harlequin LARPing as historical fiction and the other half complained it was historical fiction LARPing historical romance. Too much of either for both. MOST people say, “Moriah does not write your mother’s bodice rippers/Harlequins.”

        That is a point of pride with me because “soap opera” is not an official genre designation.

        Answered your post below.

      • Naptown Bill

        It’s funny, I think the thing that’s keeping my marriage as peaceful and content as it is considering my wife posts #BLM stuff on Facebook is that we’ve got a five month old baby to contend with and have decided that now that our finances are almost on the road to stability and we’ve gotten somewhat used to our general situation we should try to buy a new house and move within the year. Part of me feels like I’m shirking some responsibility for not doing more to fight the terrible political ideas that are flying around me and not going out and evangelizing for the cause of liberty, like while I’m busy dealing with life nefarious leftists are out running amok (as if I’m the single person in the Annapolis area standing between it and Communist dictatorship…) but I’m also just so busy keeping all the plates spinning that I don’t have the time to really care about what Trump tweeted yesterday or whatever. I figure if I get one of three things–my son getting old enough to more or less fend for himself, figuring out and starting a reliable way to make money on my own, or successfully selling this house and buying the next one–I’ll start getting more interested in shit happening to people I don’t know on television.

      • Tejicano

        “shit happening to people I don’t know on television”

        This is exactly where the rubber meets the road for me. Especially when what little attention they have been able to wrench from me in brief snippets here and there has so far only proven that all of them are @$$holes who you couldn’t pay me to have a free beer with.

  36. PieInTheSky

    A former Department for Work and Pensions employee who was found to be a victim of age and race discrimination was called ‘racist’ for remarking on Wales’ wet weather, harassed for allegedly stealing an ice cream and did not receive her final pay on time.

    https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/dwp-giwa-amu-case-racist-for-remarking-on-wales-wet-weather/

    In February it was reported that she would be awarded more than £386,000 in compensation, which included a 40% uplift to account for the tax and national insurance she would have to pay on her award.

    However, the tribunal has since issued a correction to its remedy judgment to reflect that Giwa-Amu would need to account for any tax and national insurance due. This has therefore reduced her award to £243,635.84.

  37. I. B. McGinty

    No actual sports, but in virtual hockey news the Preds beat the Flyers 6-3.

  38. juris imprudent

    Derpquake! You have to really, truly believe, with all of your heart, and then Tinkerbell will fly againOrangeBadMan will fall from office.

    That old line about every headline that asks a question – the answer is “no”; so too with “this time is different”.

    • cyto

      The nice blind spot… our writer says that “this kind of police violence is enabled and cheered by Trump” – speaking of the killing of Floyd…. Ignoring the democrat who runs the police department. And the democrat who runs the city. And the democrat who runs the state….

      Nope… Trump tweeted something with a second grade vocabulary… so this set of Minneapolis cops acted in the only way they logically could under the circumstances… they went out and started killing black folk.

      I keep vacillating on how much of what they are writing they believe. So much of it is so entirely ludicrous that I have to believe that they are being entirely cynical in their propaganda. But then I hear them talk… and I see that they actually seem to believe this nonsense. So maybe they are a bizarre form of narcissist.. they make up useful lies, and then they believe their lies.

      • WTF

        It doesn’t seem to occur to them that these cities with all the racism and crime and inequality have been exclusively run by Democrats for half a century or more.

  39. Festus

    Ok I’m out. Gonna have some chow and hope these body aches are just old man symptoms. Have a great one!

    • SugarFree

      “And then, one by one, they waddled forward and accepted the sacrament of the black penis into their warm mouths.”

      • Idle Hands

        Seriously they’d be good catholics.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s fucking pathetic and counter-productive. It only reinforces the racial divide and further distances people from treating others as individuals instead of as members of a collective.

      When those white people feel that their property and lives are under actual threat, they will turn collectively on blacks and treat them first as a threat based on the color of their skin because they don’t know how to treat them as individuals. It’s been drummed out of their psyches.

      • SugarFree

        I’d run the whole clip as a commercial and simply put TRUMP 2020 at the end.

      • Idle Hands

        It’s amazing people don’t see how regressive this perspective is. Even my “normal” friends find this fine. This is honestly one of the most barbaric and empty gestures I’ve ever seen. It does nothing but collectively assume guilt and promote division. this is the intelligentsia bedrock of bigotry and racism.

      • Chipwooder

        Years ago, Mark Steyn remarked on this. If identity politics are the standard in a society, it is inevitable that there will be a growing white identity movement. Either racial identity is the sine qua non of human existence or it isn’t. It is absurd and illogical to think that there will not be such a reaction.

    • Drake

      I don’t bend the knee.

      • Chipwooder

        Nor do I grovel for forgiveness from people for crimes I didn’t commit. Collective guilt and blood guilt are bullshit.

    • Apples and Knives

      Gross.

  40. Certified Public Asshat

    Walk to cure Covid has been incredible effective.— KC (@kcloyals) June 2, 2020

    Almost stuck the landing.

    • commodious spittoon

      So masks help look at the data. Much people. Much mask.

      Thank goodness they stopped at merely enforcing mask requirements rather than shuttering the bulk of the economy for three months, if not permanently.

      Thank goodness enforcing the mask requirement doesn’t involve police.

  41. Scruffy Nerfherder

    So my lardass white Facederp friends posting from the security of their living room continue to piss me off by reposting virtue-signaling copy-pasta for likes. This is the latest:

    https://www.benjerry.com/about-us/media-center/dismantle-white-supremacy?fbclid=IwAR1XxnPFiD-ilApSv4xXMF7rB_ez4nQO9fSnXQPIBF5AaroZGekRiFQtOoo

    I rage posted a response to it. Feel free to criticize because I’m certain it needs refinement, but FFS it’s got to be better than that tripe.

    A bunch of pointless virtue signaling from people comfortably ensconced in their socio-economic bubbles. If you want to actually address the issues, then end qualified immunity, destroy the Law Enforcement Officers’ Bill of Rights, bust up the police unions, make it mandatory to bring in outside prosecutors to pursue police misconduct, vote out the municipal administrations that have been in power for decades in the cities, etc… Actual tangible action that will bring some accountability to the policing and justice system. Until that happens, you can virtue signal all you want, but nothing will change. Did Obama’s grand rhetorical gestures prevent the killings of Tamir Rice, Freddie Gray, or Eric Garner in Democratically controlled cities? And when Daniel Shaver, a white man, was blatantly murdered by a white Mesa AZ police officer in a hotel room, did the officer getting off scot-free for that homicide indicate that the problem was structural racism and white supremacy? Or does it indicate that the problem is a lack of accountability for misconduct at all levels of the justice system? The racism angle is a red herring that is designed to distract from the real problem, that our elected officials on both sides of the political divide that we keep re-electing are more concerned with maintaining power and political advantage than seeking actual reform because they benefit from police union endorsements and keeping the electorate divided along racial lines. Two of the three other officers present at the murder of George Floyd were minorities. Three of the cops that murdered Freddie Gray were black. Floyd wasn’t killed because he was African-American, he was killed for Contempt of Cop and because police who have never been held accountable for violence in the past don’t expect to be held accountable for it in the future. We don’t need a commission, we need voters to wake up and realize that they’ve been bamboozled.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      Solid rant. I give it 4 out of 5 stars.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        not sarc btw

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Thanks

      • Chipwooder

        Even got a 9.8 from the Russian judge.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That would be because I got some Russian trolls to write it for me.

    • straffinrun

      I’m a pussy compared to you on FB. Good for you. *Slowly disappears into bushes*

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’ve had it. One of them copy-pasta’d some jury nullification strategy for any protester that was arrested. I asked if that applied to every protester, including ones that were chucking Molotovs. In effect, I was pointing that urging blanket action without consideration for the details was stupid and immoral.

        I was promptly accused of trying to show off how smart I am and not showing empathy. My response was not polite.

      • pan fried wylie

        “STOP THINKING AND FEEL, YOU RACIST WIFEBEATER!!11”

    • Idle Hands

      That’s pretty much perfect.

    • cyto

      The radical left is loving that statement from Ben & Jerry’s.

      My reaction…. anything referencing 1619 as a defining term for America is someone to be ignored. This is race baiting at its most pure and simple form. The entire 1619 thing was explicitly designed to replace Russia as the means of bringing Trump down. If you think we should formulate our views of all of society through the lens of “how can we invalidate the 2016 election”, you should not have a voice in modern society.

    • cyto

      You do know that bringing up Daniel Shaver makes you racist… right?

      I’m now up to 8 people who are firmly in the “because racism” camp on this issue that have looked at Shaver, Thomas and a couple of others in some cases… and still refused to see. They say it is racist to even compare those cases. (literally because “they weren’t killed because they are white” in at least one case)

      When you set up conspiracy theories in your head, they are not falsifiable. So “police violence is because of racism” becomes unfalsifiable for these folks. Any case of police killing someone who is black is because of racism. Even if it turns out that they were actually attacking the police at the time. And anyone who is killed by the police who is not “of color” is just an outlier. It doesn’t count.

      That’s how they can be confronted with the tracking data from the Washington Post that shows that unarmed black people are getting killed by police in much smaller numbers than unarmed white people and still claim that the opposite is true. (several people have said that “police don’t kill white people like that… you can’t tell me they do” in response to that data) It is just impervious to counterfactuals.

      I’m convinced that the people at the top are doing the “because racism” thing on purpose… because it gives them an election issue and it is unsolvable… so it will be the same election issue next time around.

      But what I don’t get is why that is sticking with people who are not at the top. And it seems to be sticking more with people who lean left but don’t actually know any black people. It doesn’t get nearly as much traction with people from the south where poor people of different races live and work together and have done so for generations.

      I will note that there didn’t seem to be even a tiny bit of tension at Walmart yesterday – the Walmart nearest me has probably a 60% black customer base. Everybody seemed friendly, regardless of skin tone.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        But what I don’t get is why that is sticking with people who are not at the top.

        Because they’re intellectually lazy and don’t have a moral spine.

      • Chipwooder

        Most people are just people – they aren’t the screaming twatter activists. They want to just live their lives. I saw the same thing at the gun shop the other day – people of all races mingling in a friendly manner. It was a nice tonic after spending a long time cooped up in the house with the majority of my interactions being with virtue-signaling dumbasses online.

    • I. B. McGinty

      Since that’s better than I can do I might steal that. Not to use on social media though since I don’t participate, but maybe in a letter to my congress critters.

    • WTF

      Nice, I’m stealing that.

    • R C Dean

      Excellent, Scruffy.

      The fact that you were moved to ragepost it makes me glad I have no social media presence, and never will.

  42. PieInTheSky

    5 Economists Redefining… Everything. Oh Yes, And They’re Women

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/avivahwittenbergcox/2020/05/31/5-economists-redefining-everything–oh-yes-and-theyre-women/amp/

    I read the title and knew I should not click. But I did and it is one of the dumbest things I read recently on economics. I said before “redefining everything meaning repackaging some lefty talking points that have been around forever” and lo and behold…

    Few economists become household names. Last century, it was John Maynard Keynes or Milton Friedman. Today, Thomas Piketty has become the economists’ poster-boy. – right. Very few people outside internet lefties really know much about old Pik

    They are revolutionising their field by questioning the meaning of everything from ‘value’ and ‘debt’ to ‘growth’ and ‘GDP.’ Esther Duflo, Stephanie Kelton, Mariana Mazzucato, Carlota Perez and Kate Raworth are united in one thing: their amazement at the way economics has been defined and debated to date. Their incredulity is palpable. – I am sure it is I am sure it is.

    It reminds me of many women I’ve seen emerge into power over the past decade. Like Rebecca Henderson, a Management and Strategy professor at Harvard Business School and author of the new Reimagining Capitalism in a World on Fire. “It’s odd to finally make it to the inner circle,” she says, “and discover just how strangely the world is being run.” – ah yes the great insight of leftist women

    A kind of collective ‘you’re kidding me, right? These five female economists are letting the secret out – and inviting people to flip the priorities. – the secret is out. The goyim know I think the saying goes… Kidding but dam,n those economist kept the secret hidden a long time

    “What is economic value? And who creates it?” lays down the gauntlet. If some people are value creators,” she asks, what does that make everyone else? “The couch potatoes? The value extractors? The value destroyers?” – all those things

    In her upcoming book, The Deficit Myth (June 2020), she argues they are not at all similar; what household can print additional money, or set interest rates? Debt should be rebranded as a strategic investment in the future. – sure print and spend endlessly, it is strategic.

    The concept of Gross Domestic Product (GDP), was created in the 1930s and is being applied in the 21st century to an economy ten times larger. GDP’s limited scope (eg. ignoring the value of unpaid labour like housework and parenting or making no distinction between revenues from weapons or water) has kept us “financially, politically and socially addicted to growth” without integrating its costs on people and planet. – what a new and exciting idea! I enver heard than one before!

    Yeah I’ll stop now. I am losing brain cells.

    • PieInTheSky

      Shit that is a lot longer than I though. My bad…

    • Naptown Bill

      Piketty has become a byword for wokeness substituting for genuine scholarship, I think they mean.

    • leon

      Few economists become household names. Last century, it was John Maynard Keynes or Milton Friedman. Today, Thomas Piketty has become the economists’ poster-boy. – right. Very few people outside internet lefties really know much about old Pik

      My favorite exchange re: pickety was listening to Bob Murphy break down a Larry Summers quote. Summers said that Piketty deserved a Nobel Prize for “Capital in the 21st Century”. But Larry also pointed out that the basic premise of the book was flawed because he didn’t take into capital upkeep costs. That totally destroys the book. Bob said it was like buttering someone up before stabbing them in the back.

    • robc

      Mariana Mazzucato

      Scanned for this, can safely ignore reading it.

      How come Deidre McCluskey wasn’t included? Are they anti-trans?

    • Rufus the Monocled

      See what happen when you give women the right to vote, amirite?

    • Naptown Bill

      It’s almost as if neither candidate actually wants to win…

    • SugarFree

      The Floyd family should be very honored to have The King of Black People attend the funeral.

      • leon

        :Opera Applause:

      • bacon-magic

        Come on, man!

      • AlexinCT

        If I ain’t at your funeral you ain’t black!

      • SugarFree

        Bingo!

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        *golf clap*

      • Swiss Servator

        I hope he doesn’t have to inform any of them they are not really black.

      • leon

        I don’t want this to happen, because its a damn Funeral, and should be respectful. But if someone were to challenge him on the crime bill while he was there, it would become the political spectacle they hope it does.

    • straffinrun

      “Stand up so everyone can give you a hand!”

      “Damn, Joe. Not again”

    • Chipwooder

      Nothing like using a grieving family as a political prop.

    • cyto

      I heard they are having 5 funerals in different states. Is that real, or just some disinformation. Who would be funding that?

    • Gender Traitor

      “George Floyd was a bad dude…”

  43. Pope Jimbo

    Too bad there aren’t any real journalos in Minnesoda, because interesting things are happening, but it would take good reporting to explain what is happening to the public and the nuances are plenty.

    Education Minnesoda calls for the resign of Police Union spokesman Bob Kroll

    Minneapolis School Board terminates contract with Minneapolis Police

    What I see is that the Minnesoda Democrats are using their pet unions to try to crush the police union in Minneapolis. Sure, technically, the school board is elected, but you are a fool if you don’t think each of those board members is a creature of Education Minnesoda. Just like you are a fool if you think the DFL can’t yank their chain and make them do their bidding any time they want.

    I wonder if any other unions are going to look at this and wonder what might happen to them if they cross the DFL in the future. This looks like a very slick way to bust a union to my eyes. The DFL will continue to trumpet about how they are the unions’ friend, but at the same time have a huge stick to use on any union that doesn’t tow the lion.

    • leon

      Look. Fuck Teachers Unions, but Fuck da Police Union even more. Police Unions are up there with CIA in most evil institutions in the US.

      • cyto

        Is the police union evil… or the politicians who agreed to the ludicrous contracts with the union that allow for things like waiting a month before giving a statement in a criminal investigation, or almost never being able to actually fire an officer?

        I mean, they can ask… but you didn’t have to say yes…

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        In general, a good question.

        In MSP, the answer is simple – the police union in a particularly unique evil worse than in most cities without the word “york” or “angeles” in the name.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Yes

      • leon

        Here’s why i say police Union is evil. They flat out and always stand out for Murder. FOP never ever ever will say “Yeah that guy straight up murdered someone”. They then threaten the localities they are supposed to be serving with not doing their contracted work because they are getting oversight on a fucking murder. For me that rates them an “Evil” rating.

      • R C Dean

        Is the police union evil

        Not for getting ludicrously lucrative contracts, no.

        For protecting bad cops, yes.

  44. The Other Kevin

    There’s a Harry Potter quote that keeps coming to mind lately. “Brilliant, Snape – once again you’ve put your keen and penetrating mind to the task and as usual come to the wrong conclusion.”

    Being at Glibs and TOS, I’ve seen tons of stories of government overreach and police militarization. In the past few months those issues have come to the forefront. And as usual, most people have descended back into the same red vs blue, left vs right tribal arguments. It’s damn depressing.

    • leon

      Look People care a lot about this. Just not enough to give it more thought than what they need to to get past their pre-established tribal boundaries.

    • Drake

      I think it’s purposeful. Every time we have an opportunity to talk about law enforcement tactics and behavior, the race-baiters jump in and hijack it.

      • Chipwooder

        Which is a major reason why nothing ever is accomplished to curb police brutality.

      • cyto

        I completely agree. If this was only the second or third time, I might be able to convince myself that it was genuine. But it is every single time…. and it always derails any hope of fixing the real issues.

        I’ve tried to explain it at an even more basic level…. If you design a system that is dependent on having everyone involved being pure of motive – free of racism, free of other forms of malice – then your system will inevitably fail. You need to have a system that is resilient against malice and incompetence alike.

        Like our system of government – divided power, checks and balances…. meaning that one idiot can’t bring the thing down.

        But with police, we keep ratcheting things in the other direction. There is so little accountability and so many layers of protection for the police that nobody trusts them. And at the same time, there are so many layers of “for show accountability” that the police don’t trust any form of oversight. I try explaining that unless you have real accountability with reasonable consequences (not “go to jail for life if you make a mistake”, and not “get a year’s paid vacation if you murder someone”) you can’t fix this problem.

        I can tell you… .nobody is buying right now. You have kooky right libertarians, and that’s it. Everyone else is planting their flag in the “because racism” sand.

      • Overt

        It isn’t just the race baiters. If we had NEVER mentioned race, and there had still been looting, the Law and Order types would still be screaming “We don’t give in to Looters!”

        I hate that this was turned into a Race issue, but I also hate that Trump went from “We are having the DOJ investigate this” to “THUGS” and “DOMINATE!”

        Both sides are at fault here. There is some small signal in the noise. There are people on the left RIGHT NOW open to the idea that Qualified Immunity and Police Unions have got to be reformed. Whether they think that is due to “systematic racism” or “general government overreach” doesn’t matter. Amplify that signal.

        The US was able to work with Stalin in WWII. If a bunch of Race baiters are willing to neuter police unions, hold your nose and support them.

      • R C Dean

        I also hate that Trump went from “We are having the DOJ investigate this” to “THUGS” and “DOMINATE!”

        Well, the situation went from “Black dude killed on video by bad cop” to “Rioting, looting, arson, and murder”. What’s he supposed to do? We can bitch about his particular brand of inarticulate hyperbole all we want, but leaving that aside, what should he have done?

      • leon

        If a bunch of Race baiters are willing to neuter police unions, hold your nose and support them.

        I’ve said this before. I have little sympathy for cops being called racist.

        However the problem is that the even somewhat reasonable people are being drowned out by riots by commies, and the Dems then using the reasonable people to cover for riots.

        And no i don’t think BLM gets a pass on this right now. I get the “You should denounce X” is stupid, but if someone is trying to run away with your brand you fucking call them out on it. If you don’t then you don’t care.

      • R C Dean

        If a bunch of Race baiters are willing to neuter police unions, hold your nose and support them.

        I’m all about allies of convenience in politics, but I’m also wary of empowering people with toxic agendas. Look at what happened with gay marriage – the immediate issue was worthy of support, but the people you had to ally with were toxic and immediately used the lift they got on that issue to move their destructive identity politics forward.

      • Floridaman

        I would side with anyone over the communists, so no, I would rather go the other way on that deal.

      • Floridaman

        Besides the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

    • Idle Hands

      I just don’t understand how anyone could view the last 3 months of the gov basically stepping aside and bailing on society except to threaten, prevent and arrest people who want to conduct business and forcing the business’s still operating to step up and provide adequate testing for their employees that we have to pay for along with paying them to quarantine in an environment where no sales are occurring. Than only this weekend to basically let violent commie’s burn and loot their cities, and these fuckers are going to have the audacity to claim we need them? fuck them. I can’t even believe that anyone can conclude we need these fucktards at all at this point.

  45. Drake

    The Suicide of the Cities

    The Democrats and their media minions think that the virus lockdowns and riots will hurt Trump. Whether or not that is true, they have destroyed themselves. All the progress in American cities, the gentrification, revival, and prosperity that NYC, Boston and other cities have experienced over the last 30 years – it can all leave now. The lockdowns proved that downtown office-space is a waste of money – white collar workers can work anywhere. And the riots proved that woke blue cities are dangerous places to live and raise families.

    • leon

      All the progress in American cities, the gentrification, revival, and prosperity that NYC, Boston and other cities have experienced over the last 30 years

      Good Gentrification is racist.

    • Idle Hands

      It’s amazing the municipalities dont even see the gut wrenching budget apocalypse coming. the lack of Property taxes coming in are going to absolutely bankrupt them.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I said it before, but Philadelphia and a few other cities just took a giant step towards Detroit/Baltimore status.

      • Chipwooder

        No, no, see, they’re going to be prog utopias!

    • Rhywun

      Party like it’s 1975!

    • Pope Jimbo

      How many of those workers who have jobs that could be done remotely during the lockdown are going to demand to continue working remotely so they can move farther out in the country?

      How many businesses will then realize that they don’t need office space downtown? That they need a tiny bit of office space out in the suburbs.

    • R C Dean

      All the progress in American cities, the gentrification, revival, and prosperity that NYC, Boston and other cities have experienced over the last 30 years – it can all leave now.

      This is what it looks like when a (social) cancer metastasizes. The people who demanded that their communities take the road to self-destruction will now fan out and demand that their new communities take the road to self-destruction.

      • Drake

        Maybe – or they’ll meet their new neighbors and get told to fuck right off. Like my new neighbors.

      • R C Dean

        The one who have learned nothing will still vote, will still infiltrate local organizations and businesses, will still bend the local culture toward self-destruction.

  46. robc

    Mining you all for a term. I figure the real writers here use us as a resource, so us fake writers can too. I mentioned a while back a story I was working on, I have reformatted a bit (more on that some other time) and have 3 “chapters” (they are short) that are near ready to post. Anyway, I need a term for a certain position.

    Background that I mentioned before…it is a matrilineal society…sons inherit the titles but it passes thru the female line. Right now my placeholder title for the mother of the Emperor is “Mother of Empires”, which I hate for 2 reasons.

    1. There is only one empire, so it is inaccurate.
    2. It sounds too much like “Mother of Dragons”.

    #2 is the important reason I hate it, I could deal with the technical inaccuracy and make that a part of the story. For other women, titles like Duke-Mother, Baron-Mother, King-Mother work. But Emperor-Mother sounds awful and I kind of wanted something especially pretentious.

    • Drake

      Grand-Dame?

      • Mojeaux

        Dame is a very low, low, low position on the noble totem pole.

      • robc

        Is it super pretentious to be intentionally hyper humble?

    • robc

      re: the format change.

      I was stuck. I can’t write novelly type prose. So I decided to go for a gimmick (and not even an original one), because it works for my writing style. The whole thing is going to be in the form of letters. It fits the world I am building and allows me to focus on one person’s perspective at a time, and I don’t have to be descriptive in my scenes. Any description I need, can be one character giving it to another. The rest of the world is up to the mind of the reader.

      It worked for Screwtape.

    • Mojeaux

      Generally speaking, the mother of the male title-holder is called Dowager [Title-ess], e.g., Dowager Duchess, Dowager Countess, etc.

      I would go with Dowager Empress.

      • Trolleric the Goth

        huh, I always wondered what a dowager was but never enough to look it up. I learned something!

      • robc

        “a widow with a title or property derived from her late husband.”

        Not appropriate, as the husband is not the source of the title (although there are already two exceptions to that in my story already).

    • SugarFree

      Próti Mitéra, First Mother in Greek.

      • Swiss Servator

        Hush your mouth!

        Oh, you talkin’ bout Shaft?

      • robc

        I like “First Mother”.

      • SugarFree

        Loops back nicely to the “First Citizen” concept of classical Rome. And “First Mother” would save you from having to type Próti Mitéra all the time. 🙂

      • robc

        Plus the Greek doesn’t fit in.

      • Swiss Servator

        There is lube for that…

    • bacon-magic

      Boss Bitch.

    • leon

      All right. That’s it. Burn it all down.

      • cyto

        Wow! That’s really impressive. A parody of wokeness and they took it down.

        I have no idea what the pretext was…. but I’ll bet you $20 that there are others who tweeted something exactly comparable, except not as a parody.

      • Mojeaux

        Methinks somebody just figured out it was parody. It was too spot-on for too long.

    • Naptown Bill

      Not a publisher tho.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        Again, that’s not how Section 230 works.

        Publisher; Things they themselves post. Responsible for that under Section 230.
        Platform: Things others post. Not responsible for that.
        Moderation: Perfectly, 100% allowable, no matter how they do it. And it applies to all sites. Without it we couldn’t ban Tulpae from this site.

      • R C Dean

        A newspaper can be held liable for every single thing it prints, regardless of who wrote it.

        Once you exert a certain level of control over what you disseminate, you are responsible for all of it. Where that line should be drawn is not an easy thing to determine on the intertubes, but simply saying “I didn’t write it, I just put it out there” hasn’t been a defense to defamation until Section 230.

      • Overt

        No, a newspaper that has USER GENERATED CONTENT will not be held liable for that content. So, for example, TOS will not be liable for the trolls in the comment section of each article.

        There are very clear distinctions between user generated content and publisher content- generally if you produce content as the employee of the site owner, then it is not user generated content.

        Whether the site curates user generated content or not has nothing to do with whether or not it is user generated content. As bluster said, such rulings would basically turn any forum where they police by viewpoint into a publisher, which would mean sites like Red State or Dem underground or even Glibs impossible.

      • R C Dean

        No, a newspaper that has USER GENERATED CONTENT will not be held liable for that content.

        You are mistaken. A newspaper sued for a letter to the editor has only the usual defenses, the same ones it has for content generated by its employees.

        https://firstamendmentcoalition.org/2015/08/aa-can-a-newspaper-be-sued-for-the-content-of-a-letter-to-the-editor/, and tell me whether you see any reference to “You can defend that lawsuit because it was a letter to the editor.”

        SCOTUS declined to take up a case where a newspaper was held liable for a letter to the editor.

        April 24, 2007 · The U.S. Supreme Court announced last week that it will not review a libel case in which a small Virginia newspaper was ordered to pay $75,000 after publishing a letter from an inmate containing allegations about a local prosecutor.

        There is no user-generated content exemption for newspapers. That is a creation of Section 230, which is not available to them.

      • Naptown Bill

        But the argument that sites like this one wouldn’t be possible without the protections afforded by Section 230 (or the claim I’ve read elsewhere that the very Internet itself would fall apart without it) rings very much like, “Without the ADA nobody would ever hire a person with a disability,” or “Without Affirmative Action, no minority would ever be hired by a white person,” or “Without Title IX, there would be no women in collegiate athletics.” Whether or not the law served a useful, beneficial purpose when it was passed it is now used in ways that are harmful to the freedoms it was supposedly designed to promote and protect.

      • Naptown Bill

        That’s my problem with Section 230. Twitter would be considered a publisher in any other context but because it’s a publisher on the Internet it isn’t a publisher. Dafuq?

    • cyto

      Huh…. I may have to scale back some of my earlier twitter musings. This was among the “promoted tweets” that were under your tweet.

      Inaya Folarin Iman
      @InayaFolarin
      ·
      Jun 2
      Can the media stop getting black people on to speak as if we are a monolithic group?

      I support their right to protest but I do not endorse the protests in the UK or the Black Lives Matter group. I despise the rioting. And, I think that America is a flawed, but wonderful country.

      • cyto

        Huh…. another one in the same stack

        Mercy Muroki
        @MercyMuroki
        ·
        19h
        Dear
        @Channel4News
        ,

        Thanks for inviting me on to get a more ‘balanced’ analysis of current racial tensions, then cancelling me in favour of a left-wing comedian, a left-wing MP, and a left-wing ‘Professor of White People Studies’.

        Cowardly.

      • cyto

        And this… seems Twitter Britain has different political leanings

        Tom Gribbin
        @TomGribbin6
        ·
        Jun 1
        UK MSM wetting their knickers because Trump fired tear gas.

        Macron has been doing it for 18 months and they dont say a word.

      • leon

        Twitters Promoted tweets, are usually tweets that are similar to tweets by the person you are reading. And by “Similar” it means, “These are people who are also followed by the same people who follow the guy you are looking at.”

        If you look at a leftists tweet, you’ll see more leftists stuff. And likewise with the right.

      • cyto

        So by looking at none tweets… I get none….

        Maybe I should go back to that strategy.

  47. juris imprudent

    Cripple fight!

    Crank up that popcorn popper!

    • Chipwooder

      If you want concrete evidence that letting riots run unabated is a losing political position, look no further than the fact that Cuomo is hammering DeBolshevik on the issue.

      • Hyperion

        Hopefully, one retard sends antifa up to take care of the other retard. Take your pick of retards, why can’t it be both?

  48. Jerms

    Hey Sloopy, im a lurker here and a big fan of the site. Was wondering if its possible to pick your brain about the auction business if you even get some time. Is your email listed on the sute somewhere? Thanks

    • Hyperion

      Fuck off, Tulpa!

    • leon

      Tulpa…. Now that’s a name i haven’t heard in a long time.

      Though this one has an avatar, which is more than i can say for some regulars :glares: you know who you are.

      • Chipwooder

        Tulpa…. Now that’s a name i haven’t heard in a long time

        That’s exactly what Tulpa would say.

      • Hyperion

        Looks like we just ID’d another Tulpa. Get em boys!

    • Toxteth O’Grady

      Handsome pups!

  49. Hyperion

    “Sorry it’s just a tweet. But it’s still probably the stupidest shit you will see all day.”

    I just started my day, and somehow, unfortunately, I am already doubting that.

    • cyto

      CNN is on in the other room…. even just the tone of voice I hear in the background has me thinking the same thing..

      • Hyperion

        My wife is glued to the TV every day with Globo on. Globo is the Brazilian version of CNN, they just repeat everything they say, almost word for word. I’m about ready to go in there and smash the TV.

  50. Viking1865

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/worse-than-war-my-night-besieged-by-looters-and-thugs-in-nyc/

    “I felt the insecurity of lawlessness and disorder more acutely than I ever had before — and I’ve filed datelines all over the Middle East, including from the front line of the Iraqi Kurdish war against the Islamic State.”

    Yeah I’d rather be on the front lines of a war hiding behind Pesh Merga than in a rioting city with nothing but a doorman.

    • Idle Hands

      but they were mostly peaceful. Also of course they were more dangerous trump sent the military in.

  51. Rebel Scum

    ABC News✔
    @ABC

    “Our citizens are not the enemy.”

    Sen. Richard Blumenthal decries “militarization of law enforcement,” calling Pres. Trump’s threatened use of the military on protesters “what you’d expect from a two bit dictator.”

    Rioters, looters, assaulters, and murderers are. And I am pretty sure you and your ilk consider people that believe in constitutionally limited government to be the enemy. So, kindly fuck off, you disingenuous cunte.

    • Chipwooder

      Dick Blumenthal is a fabulist and a liar and should be ignored by all decent people.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The simple fact that Dick Blumenthal got re-elected is a stain on our society.

    • leon

      Dems are trying to “walk a line” and failing awfully. Legit reasons for complaint. SLC (Which has a Dem Mayor btw) declared a curfew for the whole week, despite all the rioting ending last week. Now maybe they know something i don’t, but that is insane. But the Dems are refusing to have the “nuance” (fuck me, it’s not even nuance) to say that looting is bad. No they barely recognize it, and seem to not care.

    • Hyperion

      First democrats and the media let governors and mayors get drunk on power and lock people in their homes, destroying businesses and lives, when they knew full well the consequences. And the media cheered them on. Now it appears that the lock downs were a total folly and even ‘experts’ are now saying it’s time for students to go back to school and businesses to open, and that the threat of the scary ‘2nd wave’ they’ve been breathlessly predicting is looking a lot less likely. The media continue their narrative, unabated. All of the sudden ‘experts’ who they used to get their way, are anti-science quacks, instead.

      Then, as if that wasn’t enough, they intentionally let looters and violent leftist gangs like antifa, destroy people’s properties and lives. And the media cheers them on.

      If this isn’t enough for American to wake the fuck up and realize that the left, including democrats and the media are the real enemy of the people, we are in deep shit.

    • AlexinCT

      Senator “I was Rambo in Vietnam” should not be believed. Fuck this asshole.

      • Chipwooder

        Well, how do we know for a fact that Rambo didn’t spend the Vietnam war collecting for Toys for Tots with a reserve unit, huh?

    • commodious spittoon

      “Our citizens are not the enemy.”

      Maybe tell that to the people treating our citizens like enemies? Not sure I see a whole lot of daylight between a citizen choking another citizen to death and mobs of citizens beating other citizens to death, but, you know, I’m one of those ignorant country bumpkins who calls a murder murder.

    • R C Dean

      Sen. Richard Blumenthal decries “militarization of law enforcement,”

      Welcome to the party, pal. Where you been the last 20 years?

  52. Rebel Scum

    Ohio trying to be first state to declare racism a public health crisis

    This is the least racist time in American history. And it is ironic that people that believe in thoughtcrime and want to punish badthink call their opposition, the freedom of speech crowd, “fascists”.

  53. Rebel Scum

    Our highest respect to the family of David Dorn, a Great Police Captain from St. Louis, who was viciously shot and killed by despicable looters last night. We honor our police officers, perhaps more than ever before. Thank you!

    “But everyone has the spark of divinity.” – Nazi Pelosi

    • leon

      Everyone, as long a they have passed through a vagina.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        C-Section babies have a sad.

  54. Chipwooder

    Seen just now:

    Trending in United States
    Frank Rizzo
    9,229 Tweets

    I think it’s a safe assumption that it’s not nostalgia for the Jerky Boys fueling that.

    • Sean

      I think it’s a safe assumption that it’s not nostalgia for the Jerky Boys fueling that.

      HA!

  55. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Boris Johnson is the tits.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/03/boris-johnson-says-3m-people-hong-kong-will-get-path-british/

    Boris Johnson is ready to open the door to nearly three million Hong Kong citizens if China imposes a new security law that critics say would rob the territory of its autonomy.

    The Prime Minister, writing in The Times, has offered to make what he says would be one of the “biggest changes” in the history of the British visa system to allow 2.85 million Hong Kong citizens the chance of fully-fledged citizenship.

    • Hyperion

      Probably too late though, the CCP will prevent them from leaving.

    • Urthona

      The US should offer this as well.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Absolutely

      • Hyperion

        And again will be too late. The CCP won’t let them leave.

      • Incentives Matter

        Actually the CCP might welcome this. I had a buddy in Uni back in the 80s who was a Russian Jew; TPTB in the Soviet Union allowed him and a whole bunch of other Jewish people to leave, mostly because they had become a political/social “problem” to the Soviets by that time. A whole bunch of Western countries took the displaced in.

      • R C Dean

        If not, that creates another reason for sanctions.

        Plus, its a golden opportunity for the CCP to salt yet more ChiCom agents in the West.

  56. Rebel Scum

    “Violence is when an agent of the state kneels on a man’s neck until all of the life is leached out of his body. Destroying property, which can be replaced, is not violence. To use the same language to describe those two things is not moral” –
    @nhannahjones
    on CBSN

    Oh, well then you won’t mind if someone arson’s your house since, you know, that is not violent and your house can be replaced.

    Cunte.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      She seems to be asking people to do exactly that. I won’t be surprised nor upset when it happens.

      • Chipwooder

        Not one bit. If she were robbed of everything she owned, I’d laugh my ass off.

    • Urthona

      Also, they’ve already killed more than one innocent person so the point is moot.

  57. Rebel Scum

    The head of the Minneapolis police union says George Floyd’s “violent criminal history” needs to be remembered and that the protests over his death are the work of a “terrorist movement.”

    Both can be true. Likewise the circumstances of his death can be suspect, as they are.

    • Rebel Scum

      It’s like no one does nuance anymore.

      • Viking1865

        The media makes the victims out to be angels, based on the word of their friends and neighbors. Then it comes out that they were flawed people, and the copsuckers get their SEE SEE HE WAS A THUG!!!!! and nothing ever changes. I don’t think cops, in general, do this shit to angels. They absolutely do go after people they have know have a record so that when this shit blows up they can sling the mud.

        Like, even with the no knock raid shit, people have zero problem with that when its directed against drug dealers. The outrage is when they kick in the door and murder a non drug dealer, but its just as fucking monstrous to kick in the door at 3AM and shoot a drug dealer when he reaches for his pistol half asleep when you can just wait at the end of the block and grab him when he walks down the street for a pack of smokes.

        George Floyd could have been arrested covered in the blood of a murdered child and I still wouldn’t want the cops to slowly strangle him to death while he was laying on the street with his hands cuffed.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        This

      • Rebel Scum

        George Floyd could have been arrested covered in the blood of a murdered child and I still wouldn’t want the cops to slowly strangle him to death while he was laying on the street with his hands cuffed.

        Yup. Totality of the circumstances. If he is in custody, you don’t kill him.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        As I have been told explicitly in the last 24 hours, digging into the arguments beyond the surface is non-empathetic and unwelcome. Don’t make them think, they don’t like it.

    • Urthona

      Was he really a violent criminal? didn’t even know that. awesome reporting.

      • Chipwooder

        I think he had done time for assault at some point. Not that it has any relevance.

      • Hyperion

        He has a record and I think one of them was burglary. So it might depend on whether or not the burglary was violent.

        Then again, you can’t trust one article on the web until it’s been confirmed by more sources.

      • Urthona

        Burglary is categorized as a violent crime, but it’s definitely not the same as violently harming a person directly.

      • Urthona

        or maybe that’s just in the UK.

      • Hyperion

        I’m not sure, but I’m sure it’s a felony and it could always turn violent if someone confronts the intruder.

      • Rebel Scum

        I have no idea. I heard he had a history of fraud or something. Can’t seem to get accurate information. Go figure. The point is that even if he did it is not necessarily relevant to the situation around that cop killing him.

      • Urthona

        It clearly would not justify anything, but yes it has relevance.

      • Hyperion

        It’s pretty much a moot point as far as the charges against the cop goes. Nothing gives the guy a right to murder an already restrained suspect.

        And as usual, the democrats and their media have already made sure nothing happens by making it about racism, deflecting focus from police misconduct, just like they do every single fucking time.

      • Viking1865

        It doesn’t have relevance to me, in this case, because this was not a fluid, active, violent encounter. If Floyd had been shot in a fight with cops, it would be relevant. But he wasn’t.

        You could have a enormous psychopathic Spetznaz veteran with his teeth filed down to points screaming how hes gonna kill all of you, but if hes cuffed and facedown on the street, hes not a letahl threat.

      • Urthona

        It’s not relevant to the legal case, but clearly it’s relevant. Perhaps the cop was pissed at the guy for a violent previous altercation and took it out on his neck. The entire country is selling me on a “this was racism” narrative. Yes. It’s relevant.

  58. juris imprudent

    Interesting, but why do we so quickly discard the idea that these two viruses were introduced into a single host (allowing the natural recombination) in say, a lab?

  59. DEG

    Several Ohio House Democrats have signed onto a proposed resolution to declare racism a public health crisis for the entire state.

    Never let a crisis go to waste.

    “Violence is when an agent of the state kneels on a man’s neck until all of the life is leached out of his body. Destroying property, which can be replaced, is not violence. To use the same language to describe those two things is not moral”

    Go fuck yourself. Both are violence. Fuck you.

    The feds tied him to the incident through a “PRETTY” tattoo seen on the neck of the person wearing the mask.

    See? He costs taxes.

    “Would expect nothing less from a closet racists,” Barnes tweeted.

    Barnes can go fuck himself.

    In response, dozens of Facebook employees participated in a virtual walkout on Monday, and many more expressed outrage in internal forums and on Twitter. At least two employees have resigned, according to public posts and tweets and conversations with workers.

    Virtual Walkout? Grow some balls. Walk out and don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

  60. Juvenile Bluster

    My wife sent me this picture from in front of the courthouse downtown this morning on her drive to work.

    https://i.imgur.com/jhasOnn.jpg

    • bacon-magic

      That picture has been going around.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        The liar! Though I’m pretty sure it is in front of the federal courthouse downtown. Looks like it at least.

        Well, at least it’s funny.

    • WTF

      Okay, that’s funny.

    • Idle Hands

      that’s actually pretty hilarious. I have no problem with protests even if I find them tiresome and banaly pointless. It’s the looting I’ve got real beef with.

    • Toxteth O’Grady

      Cops have a weakness for bagels?

  61. DEG

    Coverage from the Union Leader and WMUR on the arrests after yesterday’s BLM protest.

    Things started out peaceful, and after about 10 PM there was a bit of unrest. I heard some reports on a livestream about folks breaking windows but neither article talks about broken windows. Ten arrests.

  62. KSuellington

    Brendan O’Neill has really been killing it lately over at Spiked. He has written some great stuff on coronapanic and now this one on the collective guilt that is being full court pressed as some kind of religious like atonement this days. The proggies that run the media have really gone all out on this shite, I really really hope it backfires big on their asses.

    | Whiteness-as-sin is everywhere. ‘White America, if you want to know who’s responsible for racism, look in the mirror’, cries the Chicago Tribune. ‘White people, you are the problem’, it continues, in case you didn’t get its message that this sinful race, these fallen people, are the scourge of our time.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/06/03/i-did-not-kill-george-floyd/

    • Hyperion

      I saw that this morning. Good article, but most people will never see it. The MSM apparently still controls what must be 90% of people see on a daily basis.

  63. Rebel Scum

    “Open and honest discussion has always been a part of Facebook’s culture,” spokesperson Liz Bourgeois said in a statement. “Mark had an open discussion with employees today, as he has regularly over the years. He’s grateful for their feedback.”

    It’ll be interesting to see if he sticks to his guns because he is correct here. Fire everyone that participated in the “walkout”.

    • JD is in the United Karendom

      I had a larf at the fact their “culture spokesperson” is called Liz Bourgeois. The longer she selfishly takes up that executive appointment, the longer the glass ceiling stays intact for Jennifer Downtrodden-Prole, and Jemima O’Prest.

  64. Chipwooder

    Nothing to see here, move along:

    Antimalarial drugs touted by the White House as possible COVID-19 treatments looked to be not just ineffective, but downright deadly. A study published on 22 May in The Lancet used hospital records procured by a little-known data analytics company called Surgisphere to conclude that coronavirus patients taking chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine were more likely to show an irregular heart rhythm—a known side effect thought to be rare—and were more likely to die in the hospital.

    Within days, some large randomized trials of the drugs—the type that might prove or disprove the retrospective study’s analysis—screeched to a halt. Solidarity, the World Health Organization’s (WHO’s) megatrial of potential COVID-19 treatments, paused recruitment into its hydroxychloroquine arm, for example.

    But just as quickly, the Lancet results have begun to unravel—and Surgisphere, which provided patient data for two other high-profile COVID-19 papers, has come under withering online scrutiny from researchers and amateur sleuths.

    • Juvenile Bluster

      I’ve been involved (on the legal side) dealing with clinical trials for over a decade. Clinical trials are complicated, long events. You may spend 18 months on a trial and then once you’re done and the data is locked it’s still another 3-6 months of analyzing the data before you can even get into publishing the top-line results (and several months after that for a full analysis and publication in a journal). I’ve got one I’ve been involved with where we started enrollment in January 2019, finished with the last patient in February 2020, and we’re hoping to publish the first results in August. We’re in completely unprecedented territory here. Which is why I’m having trouble really paying much attention to any results, good or bad, right now.

      • Chipwooder

        Which would seem to suggest that it was particularly irresponsible of The Lancet to publish the study.

      • Hyperion

        Welcome to the New Science. Everything is political, SCIENCE!

        Orangebadman just said the sky is blue. Outrage, new study finds the sky in PINK! Smash the Patriarchy!

      • Juvenile Bluster

        But here’s the thing.

        We know from past evidence that hydrocholorquine can potentially cause cardiovascular issues at high doses. The question is whether its positive effect on COVID-19 outweighs the possible negative consequences. That’s what we need more evidence on. And we’re not going to get it in two months.

        So the decision falls to doctors to either use it and hope for the best, or to avoid it because of the potential risks. Which isn’t an easy decision, and we don’t have the year+ it would take to do a true, double blind placebo controlled study.

        But I don’t think that Trump should be pushing the stuff. No, not because of the bullcrap conspiracy theory that he financially gains from it. Because he’s not a doctor and doesn’t know any more than you or me on the subject.

    • Hyperion

      “sciencemag.org”

      Dude, stop quoting these far right fringe sites, already. What’s next? World Net Daily or Prison Planet?

  65. Hyperion

    I just don’t understand how all of America watching democrat governors and mayors let looting and rioting run rampant and not even denouncing it, let alone doing something, can work out well for democrats in upcoming elections. But apparently democrats and their media are convinced that this is exactly what will happen. Apparently, they think they can scare people into voting for them, or else they turn loose the mob to terrorize people. That might actually work in cities where they already have automatic vote, but in the burbs, I’m not sure how that works.

    I think what is happening, is that they’re worried their commie flu is fizzling out and that they cannot keep everyone locked down this fall so they can get 100% mail in ballots, so they went to plan B. More than a little worried what about plan C looks like if this fails to make people love democrats more.

    • wdalasio

      I’ve been inclined to agree with you on this. My only guess is that the Democrats really think that, if the riots remain confined to the cities they can get the suburban female vote to line up behind them under the “Republicans are racist” mantra. If they can goad a few GOP politicians into saying something about the riots that can be taken out of context, that makes it all the easier. If it stays contained to the cities, I’m not sure it’s entirely a bad idea.

      That said, once you invoke a mob, it’s not all that easy to get it to follow your commands. And I could easily decide that some of the “protesters” might start looking at suburban shopping malls as plum targets. And, as much as Karen will be first in line to black out her Facebook avatar to show how much she cares, I suspect when the manager won’t speak to her because he’s too busy trying to stop his store from getting looted, she won’t take too much of shine to the people doing it.

      • Chipwooder

        I think they’re relying on peer pressure of sorts, as manifested in that black square shit on social media and these videos of groups of white people kneeling before black people. “See, everyone’s doing it! Unless you’re a racist. You’re not a racist, are you?”

    • KSuellington

      I am really hoping that the Dems see some pushback as what they are doing is fucking reprehensible right now.

      • R C Dean

        My belief that the Dems and the DemOp Media are evil only gets reinforced every day.

      • Hyperion

        We have to completely overhaul the media, including social media, and the education system. Kids, from pre-school, all the way through higher education are only hearing and learning fart left ideology. The vast majority of people on social media only hear far left talking points. The media only reports on things that support far left ideology, 24/7.

        There is no good end to this if we fail to change media and education by putting in place real alternatives that will reach large audiences.

        It appears the commies already think it’s game over as far as winning minds and now all that is left to do is a violent takeover.

      • whiz

        fart left ideology

        You’re right, it stinks.

      • RAHeinlein

        OT: Interesting that Ames had a planned protest on election day, additionally an elementary teacher car parade, and po-po called businesses (i.e. Walmart and ask them to close early).

        Also, take a look at the Repub primary results – looked as though a number of local Dems decided to vote in the Repub primary to keep King of the ballot.

      • Akira

        Adherents of that ideology are just full of hot air.

    • juris imprudent

      You don’t understand just how many stupid people there are in this country? Bro – don’t you social media?

      • Ayn Random Variation

        Yup. Most of my friends just think this is more proof of how evil Trump is.

        I am open to the possibility that it could just be vurtue signaling and when it comes time to vote, maybe a few of them will vote against the party in favor of locking them in their apartments and closing their businesses/getting laid off and in favor of the riots

    • Fatty Bolger

      See, if you were smart, and watched or read the news, you would understand that the rioters are all outsiders, right wing extremists, and cops pretending to be protesters. BUT GO AHEAD AND WALLOW IN YOUR IGNORANCE, TRUMPTARD!

  66. Juvenile Bluster

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    NYC PBA
    @NYCPBA
    Pat Lynch on cop in #GeorgeFloyd case: “That person was not a police officer. He was a criminal. There is no one who is defending him at all in the NYPD or law enforcement as a whole.”

    You absolute motherfucking assholes. Remind me of your reaction to the murder of Eric Garner? Or when your officers raped Abner Louima? Or any other person murdered in cold blood by the NYPD?

    • Chipwooder

      Dude, Eric Garner was like 5 or 6 years ago! How can he be expected to remember that?

    • Viking1865

      That’s a hell of a no true scotsman.

    • Chipwooder

      Funny…..the VCDL’s rally back in January drew a massive police presence yet was utterly and totally peaceful. Not a single fire lit, not a single brick thrown. Yet Coonman’s tone was strikingly different. Wonder why that is, huh?

    • Homple

      Yesterday I drove past a gun store in a Seattle suburb. The windows were covered with plywood but the store was open. There was a line of people standing 6′ apart in the rain waiting to get in and do some shopping.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I think we need to step back from the big picture, from the protesters, and certainly encourage them to be peaceful

      Please be nice! Please don’t hurt us! We might cry!

    • R C Dean

      That guy is next level evil awesome.

    • R C Dean

      Defamation, and not saved by saying “Protesters I know say . . . .” Passing along false rumors is defamation as well.

      • wdalasio

        At this point, I don’t think it should even be lawsuits. Winkler deserves to be publicly flogged. By the truck driver.

    • Chipwooder

      What a fucking scumbag. Not only wasn’t this guy a Klansman with rebel flags festooning his truck like this lying sack of shit said, he had just come from delivering fuel to a black-owned gas station in an area that other drivers wouldn’t service with all the unrest. He ended up on the interstate because of the incompetence of the authorities, who hadn’t yet blocked the on-ramps. For that, he was beaten by the crowd, slandered by this shitbird, and arrested.

      If there were any justice in this world, Ryan Winkler would be tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail.

      • Viking1865

        But he won’t, and that’s the problem. He has actual political power to indulge his fantasies. Like, I am willing to bet money there was no “protesters telling him” shit. He made it up, and put it out there. It’s Joseph Goebbels shit.

        This isn’t some fucking fat gut Trumpalo posting about QANON from his den, whos political is limited to a vote between Asshole and Fuckface every four years. This is the Majority Leader of a state legislature. This fucking conspiracy theorist lying motherfucker has real political power. He went to Harvard. He has a law degree from U Minn. This is the American governing class of 2020. There is literally no difference between them and Democratic Underground posters.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        And he has the social power to incite the currently raging mob to lynch that driver.

    • R C Dean

      When a genuinely nice guy like James Lileks oozes contempt for you, you have probably lost a lot of people.

  67. Hyperion

    But it all down!

    So, here we have people against protecting a national monument. Military squaring off against Americans! Umm, maybe it’s just me. But to me it looks like they’re just standing there. So, black lives matter and we gotta be allowed to destroy the Lincoln Memorial. You know, that guy who signed that thing freeing the slaves? I don’t know if the left can get any dumber… no, no I’m sure they can and they will. They’re truly is no such thing as peak derp.

    • Raven Nation

      “Abe would have wept to see the American military square off against fellow Americans”

      Lincoln must have crying oceans of tears when he sent troops into NYC in 1863.

      • Raven Nation

        Although now I read further, probably trolling.

    • leon

      Abe would have wept to see the American military square off against fellow Americans.

      lol

    • juris imprudent

      You didn’t look close enough – he’s trolling.

    • Drake

      Our nation has now fully paid the reparations.

    • Chipwooder

      Translation: please don’t loot us.

      • Trolleric the Goth

        what do you think will happen if they run out of food due to overwhelming response? I have some guesses.

      • Sean

        Karma’s a bitch.

      • Viking1865

        The plywood my barber puts up over the windows when they lock up had BLM stenciled on it.

        It’s like Passover for leftist thugs. Mark your business with the blood of the lamb.

    • Urthona

      I can’t believe I torched those 4 businesses and I don’t even get a bbq sandwich.

    • WTF

      I guess they figured they would self-loot and try to save a little destruction.

  68. Homple

    Here we are in a Weimar Republic with nuclear weapons. I see exciting times in our future

    • juris imprudent

      Look, no country is stupid enough (and that is saying something in itself) to fuck with us. So we will fuck ourselves up!

      • Hyperion

        ^this^

      • Homple

        Sort of. Weimar set Germany up to for a double-plus fuckingup by other countries later.

        We shit ourselves into gut shooting our economy over a slightly worse than usual disease imported from China. Who knows what Our Betters would do when it came to trading nukes with China. Would they take the damage and fight? My 8 ball says “Not confident”. For another lesson. We also just caved to organized domestic rioters.

        We get more chickenshit every year.

      • Homple

        One could be forgiven for thinking so.