Friday Morning Links

by | Jul 10, 2020 | Daily Links | 476 comments

Good morning my Glibs and Gliberinas and what a beautiful morning it is except for Michael Flynn as the judge in his case continues to drag it out despite the inevitable.

 

If Attorney John Durham cannot wrap up his investigation into the origins of the Russian collusion hoax by the end of the summer, he will wait to reveal his findings until after the election.

 

Trump’s former attorney Cohen back in custody after getting caught out at a restaurant.

 

Biden plans on crashing the economy.

 

While jobless claims and total receiving benefits continues to fall.

 

Almost a third of housing payments were missing in July.

 

 

Trump topped Biden in 2020 primary voting turnout in key swing states.

 

Which is part of this professor’s highly successful prediction model which shows Trump having a 91% chance of winning.  I was one of the few people who thought Trump was going to win in 2016 and believe it will be a landslide this time around.  I look for genuine enthusiasm in the voter base.  Biden has even less enthusiasm than Hillary did.  Barring anything absolutely crazy happening (who the fuck knows with how crazy this year has been) I think Trump is going to slaughter him.

 

 

That’s all I got for today.  I’ll leave you with a song and move along with my day.

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Banjos

Banjos

Wife of sloopy, mother to three bright, curious, and highly active young girls. Perpetually exhausted.

476 Comments

  1. WTF

    He can’t dismiss the Flynn case until after the election, because once dismissed, Flynn can tell all he knows about the Obama and Dem corruption.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      This

      I’m now convinced Sullivan is under pressure and not just an idiot.

      • Swiss Servator

        Pressure? He has a lifetime seat on the gravy train. Just another ideologue using his position to further erode the rule of law. Got to cut down every law, to get at the Devil, dontchaknow!

      • This Machine

        The thing is, they never think the Devil is gonna turn ’round on them – they imagine they’ll have power and dominance over the rule of law forever.

      • Viking1865

        I mean honestly, they’re right. You think the Republican Party will morph into the Falange or that Trump will go Pinochet on them?

        They will keep using tame judges, process crimes, bureaucratic malfeasance to bankrupt their political opponents, and the Republicans will say “Well, this is all according to the law, we have to fight it in the courts of law.”

      • bacon-magic

        He might have been on the Epstein plane which will derail his gravy train…if he fucks it up he may be hit by the Clinton automobile.

      • invisible finger

        “He has a lifetime seat”

        Anyone can be a victim of a botched robbery attempt.

    • UnCivilServant

      He’ll be mugged before then, with nothing stolen, and shot twice in the back.

      • Overt

        So a suicide then. Yes, it seems to be a danger to their kind.

    • Drake

      Same reason Bolton can’t start indicting people.

    • straffinrun

      They sent it back to Sullivan to do it himself and he refuses. Couldn’t the DC Circuit court just dismiss the case and make Sullivan look like the hack he was and that he shouldn’t be a judge in the first place?

      • UnCivilServant

        The DC Circut should A: hold Sullivan in contempt and have him spend some time in jail, and B: dismiss the case themselves.

      • straffinrun

        I’ve heard they had the option before rather than sending it back to him to write the dismissal himself. Dunno if they can do it now.

      • Banjos

        The only thing the appeals court denied Flynn’s attorney was the request to take Sullivan off the case. They wanted to give him the opportunity to do the right thing. He did not.

      • straffinrun

        OK. That’s what I thought. I’m wondering if they can just rescind that and do it for him since he’s being an asshole.

      • juris imprudent

        I read he was hoping one of the appellate judges would call for en banc, and when that didn’t happen, he asked for it. I hope he gets what he asked for, good and hard – because you don’t get to go rogue as a judge. A good solid bench-slap is in order.

      • Breet Pharara

        The appellate court can’t dismiss. The trial court is in charge of procedures, the appellate court just reviews those procedures for legal error. In this case they found error and sent it back to the trial court to correct it.

        What they can do is order Sullivan removed from the case because he’s too bias to render a fair judgement. Technically, Sullivan is still okay. He’s within his rights to ask for an en banc hearing. It’s a total BS move, but at this point he already has a scathing rebuke on record from the appeals court. In for a penny in for a pound.

      • straffinrun

        Stepped out for a bit. The DC Circuit court could’ve reassigned the case to another judge who could dismiss it and we’d be done. That’s what I was trying to get at. They can’t reassign it now is my question.

  2. WTF

    Oh, and FIRST!
    Good morning, Banjos!

    • Festus' Mustache

      Legit 1st. On topic and everything. I’ll add my third-sies to the pile of almost greatness…

    • Banjos

      Mornin’

  3. Festus' Mustache

    Mornin’ Banjos! That Sullivan is like a dog with a bone.

    • Banjos

      Mornin’

    • Nephilium

      Festus! You were wrong about my A/C issue. I just had to pay an idiot homeowner tax (it was a clogged drain). It was less expensive then expected. One tiny bit of good news this week.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Sometimes it’s good to be wrong! I almost used “Eeyore” as my handle when I signed up here.

      • Nephilium

        Yep, we were sitting there figuring out what future plans would need to be moved around and such. Guy shows up, figures out the problem in a couple of minutes (which adds an item to our house maintenance now that we know about it). I’ll gladly pay the service rollout fee, and tell the guy he can have fun joking about the idiot’s house he was just at.

        And if his quick fix didn’t work, then we’d be out a much larger sum for a plumber needing to probably do concrete work. Thankfully, no further issues.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Sometimes things just work out that way. I stopped trying to be the smartest guy in the room some time ago and that has held me in good stead. Still the prettiest one, though…

    • Festus' Mustache

      Hey Swiss, I didn’t mean to twist your tail yesterday. I’m just here for amusement not controversy.

      • Swiss Servator

        Did you take any of my property, liberty or life? No.

        So no worries.

    • Banjos

      Mornin’

  4. Festus' Mustache

    Durham is a swamp critter. Everyone there has dirt on everyone else. Its MAD all over again.

    • UnCivilServant

      Push the button! Push the button! Nuke the swamp!

      • Festus' Mustache

        Not while I retain my essence!

      • Ted S.

        You have essence to retain?

      • Festus' Mustache

        Have you SEEN my powerful ‘Stache?

    • juris imprudent

      Well, it’s one thing to clean up a dirty FBI field office – another to deal with the highest levels of the organization and corruption.

    • WTF

      So, no different than the seasonal flu.
      Shocking.

      • Idle Hands

        No WTf this isn’t the flu it’s same but different when politically convenient.

      • Fribblemeister

        I sold 125,000 masks yesterday to hospitals in the Rio Grand Valley. I can’t keep up with the demand for respirators. No different than the flu? Get out of here with that.

        I mean, it’s great business and I’m having the best year selling that I’ve had in my 21 years doing this and I’m glad for the money and everything. I just wish it wasn’t coming at such an expense to so many great doctors and nurses and friends who also happen to be clients.

      • WTF

        Just because there are mask mandates doesn’t mean the CCP virus is any deadlier than the seasonal flu. Once you look into the evolving stats and the ridiculous ways they are inflating the death count, it is obvious that it is on the same order as a bad seasonal flu.

      • Fribblemeister

        Holy cow … is this a serious post? I sell to every hospital across the southwest. You think “mask mandates” is what’s causing hospitals to order masks? Are you kidding? “On the same order as a bad seasonal flu?” WTF? This isn’t like the flu at all. It’s not respiratory like influenza, it’s circulatory. They’re doing autopsies and finding thousands of tiny blood clots in every organ that is highly vascular: the brain, liver etc.. And not just organs but hands, feet and so on. My old fraternity brother is currently in charge of the largest ICU in Texas. He just lost two nurses (resignations) in the last two days because of the stress that is being placed upon them. They are up and walking away. Bad seasonal flu? I know that is a popular Glib take but it could not be farther from the truth. I’ve never had a “bad seasonal flu” drive the cost of respirators (that I can’t lay a hand on, by the way) up 300% —- and I’ve been doing this for a long, long time. Seriously, if you don’t believe this is something way, WAY beyond the pale of what we’ve encountered here in the United States since 1918, you’re ABSOLUTELY AND TOTALLY FUCKING IN DENIAL. Can I make it any clearer than that? I don’t pretend to understand the biology behind this but I DO understand market forces when it comes to medical supplies.

    • Nephilium

      The government response also causes broken heart syndrome.

      Broken-heart syndrome, the colloquial name for stress cardiomyopathy, causes dysfunction or failure in the heart muscle. Patients experience symptoms similar to a heart attack, but usually do not have acutely blocked coronary arteries. Doctors commonly attribute it to psychological, social or emotional stress.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Credentialed Health Officials have slipped below Climate Scientists in my estimation. This has gone beyond the bizarre. Imma wear my Faucci panties up my ass…

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Did you know that that people who have COVID sometimes crap their pants? And apparently they suffer from digestive motility!

      • Festus' Mustache

        “Symptoms may include anal leakage and dry mouth”

      • juris imprudent

        This comes from the many years of attempting to use public health to address everything other than public health. They’ve forgotten how to do the one they were supposed to be good at.

  5. Idle Hands

    Fine stay at home cock suckers.

    https://federalnewsnetwork.com/workforce/2020/07/administrations-reopening-plans-unsafe-for-federal-employees-senators-say/

    The Trump administration’s reopening guidelines for federal agencies are “unsafe” for employees, Maryland and Virginia senators concluded Thursday.

    In a letter to the acting directors of the Office of Personnel Management and Office of Management and Budget, Sens. Chris Van Hollen and Ben Cardin (D-Md.), along with Sens. Tim Kaine and Mark Warner (D-Va.), urged the administration to issue new guidance that better protects the federal workforce and surrounding communities from the ongoing spread of coronavirus.

    • WTF

      Fuck this shit. We don’t do this for the seasonal flu, this all political theater. Either go to work or don’t get paid.

      • straffinrun

        Again, given the choice between them working and getting paid vs not working and getting paid… I mean, are they doing anything other than being nuisances at this point.

      • WTF

        Good point, the vast majority of public employees could be dismissed tomorrow and it would have little ill effect on the lives of the actual public.

      • Don Escaped both Landslides

        Juneteenth is now a holiday.

        I’m okay with their taking every day off.

      • Agent Cooper

        I have zero problem with Juneteenth being a holiday. I still advocate for the Douglass dollar.

      • Overt

        I was just talking about this yesterday with some work colleagues. My daughter’s TSA Pre Check Application hasn’t gone anywhere since March. (We filed it but never got a notice to file for the in person appointment.) Another colleague is waiting on her passport for 4 months now. Still others are waiting on applications we filed for work stuff.

        I feel like there is a giant warehouse with the Ark of the Covenant, and millions of pounds of letters sitting unopened in the middle of America somewhere. And no one is talking about it. All these people are not actually working, but they sure as shit are getting paid, driving our national debt further off the cliff.

      • straffinrun

        Yeah, that sucks. If they aren’t working, they really should suspend the need for said documents. There is no excuse for the passport one, though.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        but they sure as shit are getting paid

        This is what pisses me off.

        The bureaucrats are some of the loudest SHUT IT DOWN proponents, because they continue to receive a nice, fat paycheck while sitting on their asses.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Wifey works at the airport. Full covid/security theater but they are packing the passengers in like sardines. This is all a great big lie. She has to wear gloves and a face-shield. Ridiculous.

      • Overt

        We flew to CO a week ago. Southwest holds back around 70 seats (essentially enough that you could go with all middle seats empty). People still pack every row at the front if they can. We were a family of three, so we took up one row.

      • Homple

        “I feel like there is a giant warehouse with the Ark of the Covenant, and millions of pounds of letters sitting unopened in the middle of America somewhere.”

        Or the post office in Terry Pratchett’s “Going Postal”.

      • invisible finger

        ” millions of pounds of letters sitting unopened in the middle of America somewhere”

        Are you implying that certain zip codes will not get their mail-in ballots before December and yet somehow there will be a record number of ballots cast in November?

      • R C Dean

        The IRS has processed approximately zero paper tax returns this year, as well.

      • DEG

        That doesn’t stop them from cashing checks. I mailed in a paper return with a check, and they were just as quick as usual to cash that check.

      • Idle Hands

        Just wait in the fall that will be the shit show of schools reopening. I predict a ton of pissed off people at the fact kids are going to go to school full time in red states but stay have distance/every other day in blue states making it super inconvenient for the working class.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        It’s going to be MAJESTIC in its hysterics and stupidity.

        Murphy is gonna cum on Whitmore’s face as part of the Kabuki theatre.

      • Festus' Mustache

        I’d actually pay for that and porn is free!

      • DEG

        I really hate to admit this because Gauleiterin Whitmer is fucking evil, but I think she looks good in this dress.

      • Overt

        Whenever I get a speil about “Systematic Racism” or “Embedded White Supremacy” I nod eagerly now, and say, “Yes that is why we need to defund public education.” After all, if white supremacy has been baked into the system, the police are pikers compared to how much impact public education has on the lives of our youth.

        If Johnny Suburb is growing up to be a passive White Supremacist who is too fragile to face his inherent racism, then what is the most likely cause of that? The statue down near the courthouse? The police he never interacts with? Or maybe it is the school system that dominated his upbringing for the past 14 years?

      • Rhywun

        His parents, duh. That is why children need to be removed from them at birth.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Black pojamas and sandals made from retreads for all! Going back to a previous thread, if everyone wore the tire shoes there would be no more problematic knots and nooses on The Peoples’ feet.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Easy for them when they’ll never miss a pay check and benefits keep accruing. I got some hero pay for about a month that was announced with great fanfare and then it wasn’t there anymore.

      • Nephilium

        My work removed all 401k matching, bonuses, and raises in March. They just announced they’re going to start the programs back up. But annual increases are only done in June, which has passed by. At least we only missed one quarter of 401k matches and bonuses.

      • Overt

        Our company skipped the mid-year promotions. But that is about it. People actually have the gall to ask the CEO daily about things like food vouchers and office equipment vouchers. I have seen the leading indicators of our revenue. These people should be happy they have a job, honestly.

      • Festus' Mustache

        I usually get my holiday pay in lieu in June seeing as I don’t take time off. Strangely overdue this year. I was going to put it toward new stairs and a mini-deck. Silence from Corporate.

      • Swiss Servator

        I would take the time off then.

        “pay up suckas, or find a substitute for a month.”

      • Festus' Mustache

        I would but I can’t. See my posts from October or February for edification.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        we’re running on no 401k, bonuses, raises, promotions, hiring, and a 10-25% paycut until October. layoffs just swept through, and while they say they’re done, I’m skeptical.

        That said, the company has been struggling to find a coherent direction since well before I started here, and they were shoving people out the door through early retirement programs before Corona. The fact that I still have a job, and that they haven’t suspended or reduced more of the benefits is a blessing of the highest order.

      • Festus' Mustache

        I’m a union member. Nominally. Where the fuck are they right now? The only thing that ask of them is to leave me the fuck out of it and make themselves useful for what they rob from my pay. Crickets.

      • DEG

        Pay cuts, pause on bonus program, and no more 401K match here.

        The company will review in the fall. Due to legal reasons, the stop on the 401K match has to go until the end of the calendar year. In the fall, the company will decide if they continue the pay cuts and bonus pauses, and will decide if they have layoffs.

  6. straffinrun

    Barring anything absolutely crazy happening

    Sooo, how crazy are Americans and is the brow beating working?

    • Nephilium

      Quite a few Americans are crazy enough to think that we’re more racists then any other country in the world.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I’m trying to condition my wife to apply a simple approach on how to handle the zeitgeist or headlines.

        If the headline screams ‘OMFG WE’RE RACIST?!’ the opposite is more likely to be the truth and reality.

        I’ve been doing this since the 90s and it has served me well.

        It takes some programming but it’s a living now.

        But be prepared to be isolated. It’s an approach that will be depressing as you will be in the minority. Misery will need company.

        I’m also showing her every chance I get how the media manipulates:

        Headline: Masks do reduce spread of flu and some coronaviruses, study finds.

        Then, as you read along, you see this:

        “…Rupert Beale, a specialist in infection biology at London’s Francis Crick Institute who was not directly involved in Cowling’s work, said the study offered “strong and compelling evidence” for mask wearing as a means of reducing transmission of some viruses, but that they were not a magic bullet.

        “Mask wearing does not completely prevent transmission and cannot be relied on as a sole measure,” he said, “but, combined with other social distancing measures, should form part of the ‘exit strategy’ from lockdown”.

        The headline says masks work giving the impression it’s been proven. Few people will read the article and still fewer will probably spot this little nugget of ‘well, not quite but still wear the ribbon’.

        That’s the best they’ve got for ‘settled science’ on the issue. I’m waiting for the language of climate change to come with 97% of doctors agree and you’re a mask denier.

        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-masks-science/masks-do-reduce-spread-of-flu-and-some-coronaviruses-study-finds-idUSKBN21L2BW

      • Nephilium

        As I mentioned yesterday afternoon. The rules for masks here are almost custom designed to cause more infections. You’re not supposed to take them off, and put them back on. Not to mention, it’s any face covering.

    • Festus' Mustache

      My “Resting Murder Face” has been pretty on point for about four months now.

  7. Rufus the Monocled

    Yeh, that’s not Biden saying those things.

    Biden is in fact dead.

    Weekend at Joe’s.

    America has to go full red in November. Socialists are in the house my friends.

    Socialists are ticks; leeches. They won’t be reasoned with. They absolutely do want to ‘dismantle’ America.

    If you’re a moderate Democrat and love your country. It’s like killing Old Yeller. You have to kill that part of your political soul now. Libertarians and Independents have to shut the fuck up and vote GOP.

    It’s over.

    The DNC are enemies of the United States Constitution.

    Pelosi said about people toppling statues: People will do what they do.

    FULL RED.

    • WTF

      Decades of leftist control of the media and education has created a huge cadre of indoctrinated ignoramuses who will vote Blue no matter who. Because they really think they want the far-left agenda enacted. The nation is doomed, it’s over, we could not, in fact, keep the Republic.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        I don’t know if many could even tell you what any of their favored policies mean. They have been shaped to emote on taxpayer dime from the time they were in grade-school. We are reaping the whirlwind sown many years ago.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      All the Dems had to do to crush Trump with the greatest landslide in recent electoral history is *appear* sane and relatively “moderate”.

      But instead they are going full Commie. JFC they’re so stupid.

      • WTF

        I’m not sure that going full commie is actually going to hurt them. It should, but I’m not counting on it.

    • Sean

      They absolutely do want to ‘dismantle’ America.

      They keep telling us that and I believe them.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        If there’s one thing history shows it’s always take commies, Marxists and socialists at FACE VALUE.

        They’re honest about what they want. They’re deceitful on how to achieve it.

    • Drake

      I’m surprised at how open the Dems are about their plans for next year. The stuff in the like like the Green New Deal, enormous tax increases, and re-regulation. They also are open about their plans to make DC a state and make 20 million or so illegal aliens into citizens. Which means they never lose a national election again.

      • Plinker762

        Year Zero, here we come. It will be glorious

        – Racist past deleted
        – Scientific economics controls
        – The people reeducated
        – Industry made Green

    • Overt

      I listened to Biden’s speech yesterday in the car. I don’t know if they upgraded the AI simulation or dialed in his meds or what, but it was pretty good. I didn’t see him, but what I heard had all the right stops, pauses, and then those moments of going off script that just seemed perfect.

      This is not going to be easy for Trump.

      • This Machine

        This is not going to be easy for Trump.

        I’m inclined to agree. If the conservatives (not the Republicans, those are a separate people) get cocky and complacent, they’ll throw this election away. Biden can only improve from here, and maybe it is just a matter of getting him the right pharmaceutical intervention, as funny as that sounds. But the Dems don’t care if they have a doped-up president or not. They’d run a head of lettuce for president if they thought it’d win and give them the levers of power for four years. Yeah, they picked a shitty candidate, but they’re craven and vicious and their back’s against the wall and they know it. They’re gonna fight like hell.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I just can’t imagine how a well-calibrated individual (at least those over 35 or 40 anyway) could possibly vote for the DNC. I can’t wrap my head around it.

      • Don Escaped both Landslides

        people are voting against these days; that works both ways

        Trump topped Biden in 2020 primary voting turnout in key swing states.

        Trump garnered more votes in 2016 than any Republican ever FWIW

      • WTF

        Yeah, the massive, record-breaking turnout for Trump in uncontested primaries seems to indicate some enthusiasm and motivation among his supporters.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        Biden being a puppet for a bunch of Commie assholes scares me more than Biden’s natural asshole tendencies.

      • Chipwooder

        Biden can only improve from here

        Why? The more he speaks, the dumber and more senile he sounds, which is precisely why his campaign has been keeping him on a very tight leash.

      • This Machine

        Ha, good point, I just figure he can’t sound worse than he already has – maybe I’m wrong about that. I want to be wrong about that.

      • Swiss Servator

        Watch his recent TV interviews…. he is brain dead.

      • WTF

        You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier!!

      • Festus' Mustache

        He’s incoherent. Jill want’s that Honorific so badly that she is willing to abuse her clearly addled spouse to get her way. The DNC is a criminal organization.

      • CPRM

        Meh, I’ve had to comb through much of it, he’s semi-coherent, some times.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Crumbs for a new cartoon, hopefully.

    • TARDIS

      The DNC are enemies of the United States Constitution.
      FULL RED.

      We can go as RED as we want, the Republic is so corrupted, the best we are going to get is PURPLE.
      I have no faith in the GOP.

  8. robc

    I have said before that when a “Anybody but strategy” rarely worked.

    I criticized the Dems in 2004 for their Anybody but Bush strategy…no one wanted to vote for Kerry.
    Ditto the GOP in 2012 for thei Anybody but Obama strategy…no one wanted to vote for Romney.

    You have to give the electorate a reason to vote FOR you, not just against the other guy. Clinton did that in 1992, he got it. Obama beat McCain, because he offered something, even if it was BS. Ditto Trump 4 years ago. Sure, in part, he won because his opponent was so awful, but MAGA is an actual positive concept.

    So, I am agreeing with Banjos on Biden. At least I was in agreement 4 months ago. Things have gotten so weird nothing will surprise me now.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      The script has been flipped and switched in 2020.

      Weirdest year in my 48 years alive.

      And one that has caused me the most angst.

    • Banjos

      Politicos live in a bubble. The average person does not follow all this bullshit. They are not in a political cult. They may say, “yeah I think Trump is an ass”, but that does not mean they are motivated enough to show up and vote. Or maybe do show up and weigh Trump being an ass to the economy and vote accordingly.

      • juris imprudent

        This is where social media has become an even bigger tool of manipulation than the regular mass media. It also draws people into one bubble or another. It sucks.

      • Chipwooder

        Very good point. Saw a thing the other day that analyzed the Twitter accounts of reporters and various other media types and found that their online world is very insular. They crank up the volume, all of their Twitter palz do likewise, and they convince themselves it’s representative of the rest of the country.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Average people don’t follow the ins and outs of the scene like Glibs do. Facebook posts and CNN is what most read and digest. We like to think that we are smarter than the average bear but where the fuck does that get us? Usually holding the shitty end of the stick, once again. “I told ya so” becomes so much bitter vetch. RMF intensifying.

      • invisible finger

        Most people don’t watch CNN and most people skip over political shit on Facebook.

      • Jerms

        Man i hope youre right–i gotta be honest, i think he’s gonna lose. Ive seen a lot of people on social media who never said a peep about politics coming out lately killing Trump. I think the media has successfully gotten to enough people. I hope im wrong.

      • Swiss Servator

        “a lot of people on social media”

        So a restricted sample population.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The very vocal minority

      • Festus' Mustache

        It’s a coin-toss for me right now. I can’t read the room and there are a shitload of people that won’t say what they believe for fear of censure. I don’t live there but everything you guys do gets amped up by the Lefties here in Canada. I’d say it is cause for fear.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        That’s why I hate people who say ‘why do you pay attention to American politics?’

        ERM, BECAUSE IT INFLUENCES US UP HERE. And if you don’t believe that then you’re an idiot and don’t pay close enough attention to HISTORY.

        Always was that way and always will be. FFS, the Quebec sources the CDC for masks. Not even Health Canada.

      • Gdragon

        I also find that up here if you don’t actually pay attention to American politics you’ll end up with a very distorted view of what’s going on down there.

      • Jerms

        Maybe i have hundreds of millions of facebook friends.

      • Not Adahn

        Tom, is that you?

      • ChipsnSalsa

        That’s not true, you’re on this site.

    • straffinrun

      Clinton had Perot to thank in 92. That being said, I’m not calling this time when it’s still July. We’ll probably know come September or October.

    • Tulip

      Yeah, I have no idea what will happen. No predictions.

    • Drake

      Let’s face it, the whole country will be watching the debates (if they happen) just to see how glitchy Joe’s brain really is.

      If Trump wants to be mean in October he just needs to find excuses to run old videos of Biden speaking when he had all his marbles. The guy has been talking in public non-stop since the early 70’s so it shouldn’t be hard. He was usually wrong but he was sharp.

      • R C Dean

        No debates, is my prediction. Biden’s team will keep making ridiculous demands, like real time fact checking, until Trump says “no”. Then it will be spun as Trump is afraid to debate Biden.

        You watch. It’s already begun.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      I agree with all of this.

      BUT

      I’ve been following sports analytics for too long to think that any model that correctly predicts 95.6% of contested outcomes is anything other than an over-fit pile of statistical spaghetti.

    • Brawndo

      Most people can’t be bothered to drive to a polling location and stand in line to vote AGAINST someone. But if you enable mail in voting, you’re going to get more people doing just that.

  9. Rufus the Monocled

    DIdn’t I link to that primary model site a few days ago?

    WHERE’S MY BUM TAP?

    AND DON’T ANY OF YOU WORK!?!

    • UnCivilServant

      You don’t have a bum, just a void where the controlling hand goes.

      • Festus' Mustache

        *actual giggle*

    • Rufus the Monocled

      “Gov. Phil Murphy says he has no patience for critics who say he’s acting like a dictator as he orders sweeping restrictions during the coronavirus pandemic — a charge that renewed with his recent order to wear masks outdoors.”

      OUTDOORS?

      He has no patience?

      PIECE. OF. SHIT.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Also. What happens if you jog or cycle alone?

        This is bananas.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        “So folks who tee off for some political point are irresponsible, and they’re putting people’s lives at stake,” the governor concluded.”

        The same people you sent off to die in nursing homes you degenerate loser?

        Lives at stake. Eat a bag of glass and choke on them jerk.

      • This Machine

        “So folks who tee off for some political point are irresponsible, and they’re putting people’s lives at stake,”

        Good gugu mugou, this infuriating remark has been parroted at every turn by the shitheads in power and it’s driving me insane. “If you disagree with me, you want people to DIE,” gosh that drives me up a fucking wall. They were always using some version of that phrase, but now no one’s calling them on their bullshit because they’re legitimately terrified of an illness with a 99.9% survival rate.

      • Drake

        Nobody is obeying this crap. Went to the store yesterday – people put on their masks at the door and tear them off the moment the step out. Half the people in the store, including employees, were wearing them wrong / half off.

    • Sensei

      You’re not helping my rage.

  10. PieInTheSky

    Hey Swiss I abandoned the thread last night before it was finished and got back to it this morning, so I want to ask why did you think my comment was hostile and not humor?

    • Swiss Servator

      The “Fuck off” to Q.

      I was worried you had been offended.

      • PieInTheSky

        Well it was a reference to the last paragraph of his post when he said and I quote ” Or tell me to fuck off”.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Fucking internets. How do they work?

    • PieInTheSky

      I’m good with 1. Pic 38 looks nice but two of them is cheating.

    • DEG

      I’m torn. That’s a great gallery but I think The Chive needs to go back to having more Chivettes in their galleries and fewer instagram models.

  11. PieInTheSky

    If Tump wins, y’all will get supercoronaviruse, just you wait. Oly Joe can stop the next megapandemic.

    • Breet Pharara

      That’s okay. I already died when Trump nuked net neutrality.

    • Swiss Servator

      I was killed by the tax cuts….I just haven’t stopped typing yet.

      • Jarflax

        You are a johnny come lately! I died from the population bomb.

  12. This Machine

    Gooooooooooob morning frens!

    If Attorney John Durham cannot wrap up his investigation into the origins of the Russian collusion hoax by the end of the summer, he will wait to reveal his findings until after the election.

    Oh, how convenient for the OrangeManBad crowd.

    Michael Cohen, President Trump’s former personal attorney later jailed for fraud, has been taken back into federal custody after allegedly violating the terms of his COVID-related release, his attorney said Thursday.

    Cohen apparently declined to sign a Bureau of Prisons document related to his release that would have restricted his ability to write a book or conduct media appearances. It was at that point that the BOP decided to remand him to custody.

    Someone mentioned yesterday that he’s like a very incompetent Saul Goodman. I assent.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Certainly Durham knows that if the investigation isn’t brought to light before the election and Trump loses that absolutely nothing, and I mean nothing, will come of it? Looks like yet another whitewash but we’ll see I suppose.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The GOP won’t object. I expect that a lot of them are tied up in the Ukraine/foreign aid grifting as well.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Absolutely, if the watchers that watch the watchers are crooked too the situation’s hopeless.

      • Drake

        If Trump loses, Durham will be back in Connecticut defending DUIs and closing real estate deals next year.

  13. Stinky Wizzleteats

    “Biden added that making it easier for workers to unionize is a “Day One” priority for his prospective administration.”

    I don’t know if eliminating right to work and payouts to uber corrupt union chronies qualifies as rewriting the economy but you do you Joe, you half senile rascal.

    • Overt

      It is a genius move though. Trump needs blue collar union voters to win this election. The theory Biden’s team is going under is that those union voters were predisposed to vote blue, but Hillary actively tried to fuck them in the ass with her “I hate Coal” and “Fuck industry, ship it to China” tactics.

      Biden has completely changed this. His platform includes many of the populist tropes that helped get people to hold their nose and vote for Trump. He is becoming a foreign trade skeptic, and talking about keeping jobs in the US. And calling for mass unionization is a move that Trump cannot get away with, without alienating more of his base. So Trump cannot offer stronger Unions, and he cannot CRITICIZE such a move without possibly alienating those exact people he wants to vote for him again.

      And for want of union votes the rest of the country will not see us move toward freer trade for another 20 years or so.

      • juris imprudent

        Blue collar union votes? You do realize who the largest unions in the country are don’t you? They aren’t exactly blue collar, dirty-jobs, style union members.

        NEA, SEIU, AFSCME – hell the United Steelworkers barely outnumbers the American Federation of Teachers.

    • robc

      I have a fair compromise:

      1. Eliminate right-to-work laws
      2. Eliminate pubsec unions.

      Both make the world more libertarian, and both the Rs and Ds get one thing they want. Win-win-win, right?

      • UnCivilServant

        No.

        Barring the resurrection of the right to free association, the aping of that right by sight things as right to work laws is a necessary stopgap.

      • Festus' Mustache

        How’s about we just start eliminating our enemies? Sorry, went to a little dark space, there… Pubsec Unions are the carbuncle on the anus of Government.

  14. PieInTheSky

    Many of the people actually “cancelled” are those long denied a fair hearing of their ideas to begin w/:

    Palestinian human rights advocates
    Abolitionists
    Anticapitalists
    Anti-imperialists

    Not spicy “contrarians” who want to play devils advocate w/ your basic rights in the NYT

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1281396963867529216

    whenever the fuck were Anticapitalists canceled? Palestinian human rights advocates lol none of them around.

    your basic rights – I wonder what she means by that

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Abolitionists? It’s not the right tearing down statues of Frederick Douglass.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Abusive Boyfriend – “Why do you keep making me hit you?”

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “People who agree with me have been canceled. Reinstate them and cancel some I don’t agree with.”

    • JD is in the United Karendom

      Mendacious cúnté much?

    • PieInTheSky

      ehm ewwww

    • This Machine

      Tapeworms mature in the intestines, not the stomach.

      /akshewally

      • PieInTheSky

        see knowing fewer such things gets you laid more

    • Festus' Mustache

      Indeed, this be a dark website from time to time.

    • Mason

      I love how they always add that this occurred before lockdown of course.

    • PieInTheSky

      maybe right wing twitter is in fact right and we are having an epidemic of cucks.

    • Idle Hands

      Super gay.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    During his campaign Biden has repeatedly expressed a desire to pursue a sweeping agenda reminiscent of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal economic plan. He selected two of Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (I., Vt.) top allies to help form a “unity task force” to craft an economic agenda, and NBC News reported Wednesday that the task force presented Biden with proposals that are “far more aggressive” than what Biden was considering at the start of his campaign. This push for progressive policies comes as Democrats have increasingly embraced the message that capitalism itself is detrimental to the country.

    To be sure, it may not resonate with all Americans, but it sounds like a winning message to the People Who Matter.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      He’s just trying to bring the Berniebros onboard. Will he sell them out if he gets elected? Who knows?

      • Drake

        Not Joe, that’s for sure.

      • pan fried wylie

        Will he sell them out if he gets elected?

        Is it an election year ending in a number? Then, yes.

    • Drake

      Democrats used to run on the left in the primaries then swerve back to the middle for the general election. Why is he still going hard left? Overconfidence or worried they might try to replace him?

      • creech

        Biden’s latest ad swerves back towards Trump in that he’s promising to “Buy American; Hire American.” Biden is making an utterly transparent attempt to win back rust-belt voters who were attracted to Trump’s “America First” populist economic policies.

      • pan fried wylie

        “Well, we really WANTED to buy American, but that shit’s too expensive now!”

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      I love how there are Classics professors on the list of signatories.

      They don’t think ANCIENT GREECE AND ROME will *literally* be the first subject area jettisoned to appease the woke mob?

      They are signing the death warrant of their own profession. Idiots.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        According to their website there are 1289 current faculty at Princeton so this letter was signed by less than a third of them. That’s something I guess?

      • UnCivilServant

        Fire everyone who signed the letter.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Agreed…call me crazy but it’s my view that academics who are against academic freedom should be weeded out.

      • Agent Cooper

        “1289 current faculty at Princeton”

        There are approximately 8,600 students at Princeton at any given time. No wonder it’s so expensive.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That doesn’t even include the number of administrators.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Holy shit, 22 physics professors and 13 engineering professors signed that hot pile of garbage.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        Yeah, even the hard sciences are filled with pinko asshats now. Whether they actually believe all this nonsense or are just trying to kiss the ring in the hopes of not getting fired, who knows?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The universities in general are filled with pinko asshats.

      • PieInTheSky

        The want to preempt the complete canceling of STEM as colonialism

      • This Machine

        Think of leftism as a religion. Whether or not your mechanic is a born-again Christian has no impact on his ability to fix your car. Same for a professor in the hard sciences. As long as the calculus comes out right, I see no reason why he wouldn’t choose to bow and scrape before the pinko commie altar, especially if it was fashionable.

      • UnCivilServant

        Except they’re like the mechanic who says “Pray to government and your car will be exorcised of it’s evil”

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        People who excel in the hard sciences used to at least be objective in outlook and temperament and their politics, or actually their lack of politics, tended to reflect this. Much of what the woke crowd is pushing is objectively bullshit and that can be determined by a person with a GED and 30 minutes to spare looking up stuff on the internet. Maybe they’re just cowards who are hoping the crocodile eats them last.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        politics descends from principle. smart people used to be well read in philosophy and theology, resulting in them being highly principled. today’s hard science graduates don’t have such a well rounded education. they’re savants. great at one thing, but average, at best, when it comes to things like history or worldview.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Yes

        I’ve had this argument with several physics and engineering grads and I recall having it with other students when I was in school.

      • Drake

        And liberal arts majors used to have a deep and broad understanding of many topics – along with the ability to apply logic and math to any type of problem. Now they are worst than worthless.

      • banginglc1

        Hey! I resemble that!

      • Don Escaped both Landslides

        well read

        I almost always had to look outside engineering classmates for anyone who knew Cervantes from Swift or could find Albania on a globe (class of 87), but I went to land grant institutions full of hicks. Conversely, my son could go toe to toe with most guys here on history and undergraduate science; but he had a superior secondary education, is curious and loves to read, and never found his father’s wide ranging odd.

        To your point, though: the other interesting thing his journey highlights is the move from some subjective, earnest humanism to optimistic capitalist. Con Law woke him up as to how broken we are today, how far we’ve drifted off the tracks. Like any of today’s protestors, he couldn’t appreciate both sides of the situation and fairly weigh everything until he read more.

        Which brings us to the main traits uniting the left: a lack of training and a lack of effort. Useful people are generally making hay instead of complaining at rallies.

      • invisible finger

        “22 physics professors and 13 engineering professors signed that hot pile of garbage.”

        They don’t want to bite the hand that feeds.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Keep in mind that some or most of the profs have never been out of academia. The engineering schools are quite prone to being filled with people who can’t survive in the real world.

    • PieInTheSky

      Look if you aint racist ya aint got nothing to worry about. Hate speech has no place on a campus. Every student should feel safe. Except those with wrong opinions off course.

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        Wrong opinions as determined by a group of people who have never held a real job a day in their lives and read the Little Red Book to their children at bedtime.

      • PieInTheSky

        Jobs are exploration. No right thinking person would deign to have one

    • Timeloose

      One of the signatures;
      Alex Glaser, Associate Professor, Princeton School of Public and International Affairs and Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering. – How are these even remotely aligned?

      This one made me chuckle -> Alger Hiss, Associate Professor, Economics

      • IntraveneousWoodChipper

        Alger Hiss?

        You’re yanking our chain.

      • Jarflax

        He’s back, time to Chambers another round.

      • Plinker762

        Aerospace = helicopters
        International Affairs = rides

      • egould310

        Aerospace and public affairs = Military-Industrial Complex. Those Boeing defense contracts don’t grow on trees.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Right. Aerospace engineers make the jets, civil engineers make the targets.

    • JD is in the United Karendom

      A few STEM profs in amongst them. The Long March came right through those depts as well, apparently.

      • Idle Hands

        Can’t wait for when the wokesters start to design bridges and parking garages based on intersectional politics.

      • UnCivilServant

        They already had a pedestrian overpass built like that in florida, but it fell down.

      • JD is in the United Karendom

        #toosoon

        (shut up, Yufus)

        (JK)

        A decent vjo on the encrumblement of said bridge (NSFW language).

        Generally speaking, I think, unrelated to any particular political persuasions, the trouble might come in the execution of said designs by thems whats builds it.

      • R C Dean

        You mean, the builders who are under constant supervision by the architects and engineers?

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        And killed at least one person.

    • Timeloose

      One of my favorite hard science professors was a life long unabashed liberal. He would never mention any politics in the classroom, but loved to debate people at his home and at parties. He would never trash anyone’s beliefs.

      Do you remember academic debate and discussion world?

      • Festus' Mustache

        No. I remember keeping my damn fool mouth shut since about 2008 for some reason or the other.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I do! Intro to Poli Sci community college instructor was probably old ’60s liberal. Assigned both Ecotopia (ugh) and The True Believer (exactly ideal), left his opinions out of it.

      • juris imprudent

        I love a liberal that thinks – there are just so goddam few of them.

      • Jarflax

        I remember. Even 20 years ago you could debate a left wing professor and still pass the class. I used to think about going back and getting my PhD at some point. I no longer think that is an option.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    We are being inundated with Bullock for Senate ads. One of the primary features of these ads is how he “saved” dozens if not thousands of rural hospitals. No mention of how he pushed those those same hospitals to the verge of bankruptcy and closure with his idiotic shutdown. I wonder how many people have even noticed that. There must be a few, like my friend who was denied shoulder surgery for months, but she’ll vote for him anyway, because Daines is an icky Republican.

    • PieInTheSky

      Seth Bullock ?

      • l0b0t

        I would not be opposed to a Sandra Bullock/Claire Daines battle royale with pillows and tickling.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Good answer!

  17. Idle Hands

    The level of terror the intellectual class of the left is in right now is hilarious especially how they cling to the throat clearing about”the right is a far more dangerous threat than the wokesters” right before going into how illiberal the cancel mob is. I just find the whole thing hilarious. Fuck these people.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      The Mensheviks were the first ones up against the wall after the Revolution. They know that the Soymalians will turn on them in a heartbeat once they acquire power.

      • This Machine

        Soymalians

        Shamelessly stealing that.

    • Festus' Mustache

      One of the plants in our garden has become “invasive” over night. Sure. It’s a spreader. Now do dandelions.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      Weed, Ass-Sex, and Mexicans 101: An Overview of Libertarian Principles

      F*ck Off Slaver: a Seminar on Totalitarian Political Movements and their Resisitance

      We are all Tulpa, now: Sock-puppeting in the Social Media World

      • JD is in the United Karendom

        I’m really torn as to what to major in. How would I be graded on the first one?

      • Mojeaux

        You have to satisfactorily demonstrate your Scotsmanness. Oral final exam.

      • Not Adahn

        There’s a major in sheep breeding?

      • JD is in the United Karendom

        Baaaa-hahahahahaha

        The shear hilarity.

      • bacon-magic

        Maybe he’s rambunctious.

      • Jarflax

        Great so Glibertarian U is planning to fleece students just like the rest of the flock.

      • R C Dean

        “Oral final exam.”

        Go on. . . .

      • Mojeaux

        “Fuck you, pay me.”

      • Swiss Servator

        Looks like we found the Dean.

    • Not Adahn

      Glibertarian Frontier Youniversity?

      Facility for Youth to Transform Work?

      College for Women, Asians and Anyone who can pay?

      Traditional Institution for Workplace, Technical and Academic Nowledge Learned Well?

    • robc

      Getting a DB error, not sure if it was you or the site.

      • Nephilium

        Worked for me:

        Appraised in 2016 for $20,000,000

        $3,000,000 MINIMUM BID

      • robc

        Working now for me. We must have overloaded the auction site!

  18. Mojeaux

    I too am still looking at a Trump landslide in November. I go out every day to take XX to work. I’ve seen exactly 2 Trump stickers and 1 Biden sticker, and no yard signs whatsoever. I hear screeching from my proggy internet friends, but that’s all. Never Trumpers and Trumpaloompas gonna never-Trump and Trumpaloomp.

    IMO, there are a whooooooooooooooooooooooole lot of people out there keeping their mouths shut. If they were voting for Biden, they’d say so to signal their virtue.

    “Remember, you’re not voting for Biden, you’re voting for RBG’s replacement,” as I saw one meme go and RBG can go sooner rather than later.

    Banjos, I too predicted Trump. Once on TOS, I said, “Trump won’t win. Hillary will lose.” I think it was John who took exception to that by saying, “Nuh UH. Trump will WIN!” to which I did NOT reply, “Did you even read that, bro?”

    So my prediction has not changed from the beginning of this election season.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      If you thought the rioting this summer was fun, wait til Trump somehow manages to pull off reelection!

    • creech

      One hopes but I know several registered Republicans who voted for Trump who loudly proclaim they cannot vote for him again, basically because he’s a loose cannon asshole. They don’t necessarily like Biden but 2020 seems to be playing up like a reverse of 2016 where sufficient number of Democrats just couldn’t stand Hillary even if they weren’t Trump fans.

      • WTF

        That seems to be contradicted by Trump’s huge turnout of support in uncontested primaries.

      • Don Escaped both Landslides

        The things to weigh:
        a/ how many folks who didn’t vote for Trump before are now motivated to do so
        b/ how many folks who are annoyed by or blame Trump, didn’t vote before, but intend to vote now

        Then adjust your perspective to estimate what you think happens in WI, FL, AZ, and NC. PA and MI might well be lost.

        Be advised: Trump won more votes than any other Republican ever, still a good 6M less than the maximum Democrat draw ever.

    • Banjos

      I look for signs, bumper stickers etc. too. It was easier when I drove everyday through a major city. In ’12 I saw at least 5 times the support for Obama than I did for Romney in Phoenix. In ’16 I saw twice the support for Trump than I saw for Hillary in Houston despite the fact that showing support for Trump opened yourself up for vandalism. I don’t venture down to the city often, but I can tell you, out here in MAGAland, the support is intense. Flags, signs, and banners everywhere. I bet if I drove through an urban neighborhood I would not find a fifth the support for Biden there you find out here for Trump.

      John was never very bright. He talked more than he listened.

      • Viking1865

        I’ve seen like four Biden stickers on cars. I see some Trump stickers, although mostly the right wing bumper sticker people have NRA logos or generic patriotic stuff.

      • robc

        During the primary of 2010? I drove all over the KY 2nd district for a funeral (from funeral to burial site). There were yard signs everywhere for Rand Paul and none for the hand-picked McConnell candidate. I knew then that Paul was going to be the new senator.

      • l0b0t

        Anecdotally, here in Rockaway Beach, Queens, NYC the amount of Trump paraphernalia absolutely overwhelms the campaign material from any other candidate. We also had no protests, riots, or looting at all here on our wee peninsula. During SUPERDUPERSTORM SANDY, looting was widespread and rampant here.

      • CPRM

        I now hear all your posts in your barely above CB quality chat voice.

      • CPRM

        Exactly what I thought. Now I want to watch Breaker! Breaker!

    • Tejicano

      The only thing I can see which could change the game would be when Biden announces Hillary as his VP.

    • robc

      “Remember, you’re not voting for Biden, you’re voting for RBG’s replacement,” as I saw one meme go and RBG can go sooner rather than later.

      This goes to my point about not running FOR something. The funny thing is, I like to think that Bernie would have been crushed in a 1972-style landslide, but he would have run on a “positive” message, he might have had a chance. Biden, I dont think so.

      • R C Dean

        “Remember, you’re not voting for Biden, you’re voting for Biden’s replacement” also works.

    • TARDIS

      RBG can go sooner rather than later.

      Can she take Roberts with her?

      Fantasy thought:
      RBG offers to drive Roberts to lunch.
      He cautiously accepts.
      They end up in the Potomac while RBG has a massive stroke simultaneously with a coronary.
      The end.

      • Mojeaux

        Chappaquiddick.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      funny that cancel culture won’t touch that asshat. hmm, wonder why that is…

  19. The Late P Brooks

    UNMUTUAL!

    Twitter users are calling for a boycott of Goya Foods, a brand most known for its Hispanic-staple food offerings, after the CEO of the company lavished praise on President Trump during a Thursday visit to the White House.

    ——-

    Unanue, a third-generation Spanish American, enraged many with his remarks at the White House, including some high-profile Democrats who also signaled that they would no longer support Goya’s products.

    “Oh look, it’s the sound of me Googling ‘how to make your own Adobo,’ ” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeted on Thursday evening, referencing the popular seasoning.

    Julián Castro, a fellow Democrat, also said Americans should “think twice” before buying Goya products.

    It tows the lion, or it wears the bullseye.

    We can only hope he knows better than to fold like a two dollar lawn chair.

    • Sean

      enraged

      Fuck these people. All of them.

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      I love Goya black beans. I use them exclusively for homemade burritos and what not. Will be sure to buy double next time.

    • Idle Hands

      Lmao these people are total clowns. It never ceases to amaze even after three years that these people pretend the president of the united states is some kind of fringe cultural figure who got invited to speak at a community college or something.

    • Timeloose

      Good luck with that boycott. They make some of the most widely accessible Hispanic foods in the country.

      • Rhywun

        Like I said last night, they are a huge local employer and that bitch wants them out of business in order to collect votes from idiots. Words fail to express how much I fucking hate her.

      • Viking1865

        Not even votes. Woke points.

        How many people who

        A: hate AOC saw this post and went OH SHIT NOW I LOVE AOC

        and

        B: live in her district

        There’s not a single human being in the world that fits those categories. Like, unless theres some diehard conservative who lives in her district who also has sworn the destruction of Goya Inc. and is now willing to vote for AOC because of it.

      • CPRM

        So you’re saying she courting the White Supremacist vote? Are you familiar with her thinking and willing to not go on record?

      • l0b0t

        Also, AOC doesn’t know how to make adobo?!? Is she one of those white Hispanics?

      • CPRM

        No, she says all Puerto Ricans are black, so she must only know how to make Soul Food or whatever racist thing the ‘nonracist’ left believes about blacks. Oh, and I guess she might be jewish too, you racist.

    • Agent Cooper

      I will now buy Goya products because I support the right to free speech and free thought.

      • Swiss Servator

        I buy it because it is cheap and good.

      • robc

        clap clap clap.

      • WTF

        Yeah, I like Goya products.

      • Idle Hands

        I always buy generics for raw ingredients.

      • Not Adahn

        Goya is always considerably more expensive than other brands, but up here it’s often the only choice available.

      • Swiss Servator

        We have a large immigrant population here – they will not overpay. Methinks you are getting marked up.

    • CPRM

      ”We will crush this racist! He dares not have thoughts I attribute to his race!”

    • WTF

      Just stop and think about what a cesspit this nation has become when it has become dangerous to your livelihood to express support for a duly elected President.

    • Plisade

      Goya is my competitor. More business is always good, but not this way 🙁

      • l0b0t

        The store at which I toil devotes a considerable amount of shelf space to Goya. My love of Goya is purely mercenary; they employ a very sweet old lady who comes in every morning to stock up and make the section look nice. This means that I don’t have to do so, and that saves me from several hours of work per week.

      • Plisade

        Which store, if you don’t mind my asking?

      • l0b0t

        Stop & Shop, one of the 2 locations on the Rockaway Peninsula in Queens, NYC.

      • Plisade

        Thanks, just curious. They used to be a customer. We’ve got plans to make a bigger presence up there in the next couple years.

  20. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I’m prodding my Facederp acquaintances again. One lefty asshat put a link to the Biden/Sanders platform proposal. I responded with “Outside of the crime and immigration issues, that’s textbook fascist economics. FDR would be proud.”

    We’ll see how ballistic he goes.

    • Idle Hands

      Why bother with these people? The branch covidians are the worst you can post number after number from the cdc website citing trends, bar graphs, and deaths per capita all day at these people and they will still pretend things are as bad in FL, TX, and AZ as they were in New York and Cuomo did an amazing job worthy of just making him president by fiat.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’m not really bothering with them. It’s the people who see their posts that are the intended audience.

        Subtle jabs at the true believers tell them that they’re not alone.

      • Idle Hands

        true.

      • l0b0t

        The couple times I can be arsed to push back against my DerpBook mask enthusiasts, I’ve noticed that it does indeed embolden others to chime in and question the mask mandates.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        I was going to link to the wikipedia article on preference cascade… but its been memory holed by wikipedia. Which is hillarious.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    Ultimate apology

    The three-term mayor of South Korea’s sprawling capital city was found dead early Friday morning in mountains north of Seoul. City officials said he left a short “will-like” message apologizing to his family and the Korean people just days after reportedly being accused of sexual misconduct by a former secretary.

    Police launched a search for Mayor Park Won-soon early Thursday evening after his daughter reported him missing.

    Hundreds of police officers used sniffer dogs and drones in the seven-hour search for Park, focusing on the mountains north of Seoul where his cell phone signal was last detected. His body was found late Thursday night on Mount Bugak. Police have not commented on the cause of his death.

    What a primitive, uncivilized culture.

    • Idle Hands

      Well he brought dishonor on his family.

      • Idle Hands

        Need to see the picture of the secretary though.

      • Not Adahn

        Of course, need to have all the facts.

    • Swiss Servator

      he left a short “will-like” message -“I have information that will lead to the conviction of Hillary Clinton…”

      /meme

      • Sensei

        Sadly I thought this when I first read the article.

      • Jarflax

        In Korea wouldn’t that be Clinton Hillary?

      • Sensei

        Funny enough speaking Japanese they do family name, followed by given name, but not for westerners.

        OTH, when speaking English they invert them to our convention. Or they did until the recent PC Wars where there is now a push by some in the Abe administration to keep last name first similar to other Asian countries.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    I know several registered Republicans who voted for Trump who loudly proclaim they cannot vote for him again, basically because he’s a loose cannon asshole.

    All things considered, I’ll take a loose cannon firing wildly over the side to one lashed down securely with the muzzle pointed directly at the hull, below the water line.

    • creech

      You might, be will others? A Penna. pollster was on tv last night reporting that the red-neck conservative parts of Penna. were what put Trump over the top in this swing state. However, his polls show Biden is way more popular in these areas than was Hillary at any time during 2016 polling. One can see what happens if only 1 or 2% of voters change in the several swing states.

  23. Not Adahn

    Sounds like lots of Glibs are receiving good news!

    Mine is — Action Pistol is restarting! First Match 7/26. I have already registered. They are limiting it to 50 people on club property. Stages look fun: Some that encourage reloads on the move, a couple of 180 traps and one that’s just eighteen targets within 10 yards without required movement.

    • UnCivilServant

      Is that Single Action Pistol or Double Action Pistol?

      • Not Adahn

        Yes.

      • Not Adahn

        Less snarky:

        “Action Pistol” is the name of the format used by Kayaderosserass Fish & Game Club.

        It’s basically IDPA targets, IDPA classes, IDPA scoring but without IDPA’s rules on cover, movement, or target priority.

      • EvilSheldon

        So basically IDPA without all the lame IDPA bullshit? *nods approvingly*

      • Not Adahn

        And no 18-round limit on stages.

        More *BLAM!*s, more fun.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      I seemed to have developed a nasty flinch during the lock down. Doesn’t help that my preferred smoke wagon is a sheild with the stock trigger. I’ve been working to clean out the flinch, and its mostly gone, but now all my groups are low and left. More practice will clean it up, I’m sure, and now that I have access to an outdoor range + nice weather, I look forward to the work.

      • Not Adahn

        I have a great deal of trouble with that with my Shield, and most guns with a rounded grip. But it’s just for when my P365 is in the shop.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        My shield has been nothing but reliable. But the trigger is trash. I am planning on (paying someone else to) putting the Apex replacement in it at some point.

        In my big hands, its the size of a subcompact with the extended mag in it, and it fits me really well.

      • Not Adahn

        I should clarify: the Sig has never been in the shop. I just wanted to have a backup for the EDC.

        I have some difficulty upgrading a <$300 gun.

        You may find it too small, but PSA sells a P365 "Tacpac" with a holster and 3 12 round mags for not too terribly gougy prices ($550 according to the email spam I get from them). Considering the price of mags, that's actually pretty damn good.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        I have no problem doing so. In the year of our lord two thousand and twenty, a > an expensive stock gun, for me. I also buy off-the-rack shirts and have them tailored. Same principal.

      • Not Adahn

        I will admit that I’ve put ~$250 of parts into my $400 M9, but that’s because I’m a filthy cheater looking to gain every advantage while technically running a stock gun.

        And thanks again to Evil Sheldon for recommending the LTT trigger job in a bag. It’s soooo nice.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        yeah, the trigger is not great on the shield. you have to catch it just right.

        good to see ya leap! I hope you’re doing well!

      • EvilSheldon

        I have similar problems, and it’s been the main reason that I’ve moved back towards Glocks from the S&W MP2.0 line. The more rectangular profile on the Glock grip, gives a little more space for my giant wangslappers to hang on to.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    Glibertarian University has a nice ring to it.

    Can we put “There is No Such Thing As a Free Lunch” over the entrance?

    • Banjos

      Gas, ass, or grass.

      • JD is in the United Karendom

        I think ass comes first, purely for poetic reasons, and not to suggest any order of preference.

      • banginglc1

        just don’t forget the comma between ass and gas then

    • CPRM

      “There is No Such Thing As a Free Lunch”

      That is the name of every meal plan, and every pencil is branded an ‘I Pencil’.

    • juris imprudent

      No tuition – learn now, pay later. Sure, you sign the contract with your own blood – you got a problem with that?

    • IntraveneousWoodChipper

      That’s fucking despicable.

    • Rhywun

      Universities UK said it was “not aware of any instances when course content has been altered”.

      I believe this. I doubt there’s any independent thought now that needs to be censored.

  25. R C Dean

    “If Attorney John Durham cannot wrap up his investigation into the origins of the Russian collusion hoax by the end of the summer, he will wait to reveal his findings until after the election.“

    We’re being played. Again.

    • Swiss Servator

      Maybe a couple of leaker, low level folks get indicted. The next Donkey Prez can make a big show of pardoning them.

      The End.

  26. PieInTheSky

    Local idiot attaches red dot to the muzzle of his mossberg.

    Claims “it is actually a kind of super-handgun” and he “pray[s] this will only be used to protect others.”

    https://twitter.com/OperatorMaid/status/1281258266639716355

    Is there something wrong with this?

    • Tejicano

      Nothing, other than the fact that he spent a few hundred dollars on a gun sight that he cannot see to use from where he mounted it (it should be much further back closer to his eyes)

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      No plan that starts with a PGO can be called a good idea, unless then plan involves replacing the PGO with a stock.

      • l0b0t

        To be fair, the Shockwave has much different geometry than the standard wrist-spraining grip that ships with a Model 500. I still replaced it with a wrist brace.

    • EvilSheldon

      It’s stupid, yes. I mean, really stupid.

      But wrong? That’s a value judgement.

      I think it’s wrong. But I also think that it’s wrong for women to wear trousers in public, and for men to leave the house without at least a collared shirt on…

  27. The Late P Brooks

    Can’t we all just get along?

    “Vaccine nationalism” is turning the search for a Covid-19 cure into an arms race, which will ultimately damage the economy and public health, experts have warned.

    Analysts at Eurasia Group speculated that tension over a vaccine would heat up over the summer, predicting a battle for access that will stretch into 2021 or 2022.

    “Countries rich and poor will engage in aggressive procurement efforts with significant political, economic and public health implications,” they said in a note earlier this year. “Existing international institutions and agreements will struggle to minimize this ‘vaccine nationalism.’”

    The research group argued that some governments were already attempting to seize first access through large-scale investments.

    “In the U.S., the Biomedical Advanced Research Development Authority (BARDA) has been spreading its investments across a number of vaccine candidates in an effort to reduce the financial risks for pharmaceutical firms and lock in priority access to a successful vaccine,” the note’s authors said.

    The scourge of kkkapitalist kkkompetition strikes again! If we’re not careful, this imaginary vaccine might be subject to property rights and recapture of R&D investment. We should put a panel of public health experts and medical ethicists in charge.

    If we don’t give the vaccine away for free, the Statue of Liberty will cry.

    • PieInTheSky

      Wait for the fucking thing to be ready. I ain’t holding my breath.

    • CPRM

      Oh noes! Scarce resources have to be allocated by some means!

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      When did competition ever lead to innovation?

  28. Agent Cooper

    This is my first ever — Mornin’, Banjos.

    • Banjos

      Mornin’

      • Festus' Mustache

        Popped his cherry! High Five!

  29. The Late P Brooks

    We’re being played. Again.

    There is no cannibalism in the Royal Navy.

  30. PieInTheSky

    The number of 18-24-year-old men reporting no partnered sex in the past year increased from 18.9% to 30.1% between 2000-2018; however, this was specific to heterosexual-identified men—sexual inactivity did not rise among gay- & bisexual-identified men.

    https://twitter.com/JustinLehmiller/status/1281068127724412928

    • Idle Hands

      I got laid during covid. Bunch of cowards.

      • Idle Hands

        *even

      • PieInTheSky

        partnered mister Hands

      • Idle Hands

        Pandemic orgies would be a great band name.

    • Ownbestenemy

      My oldest was all pissed off from March to May because he was isolated from his GF. Since they can see each other again, he is much more reasonable.

  31. Count Potato

    Good morning, Banjos.

    • Banjos

      Mornin’

  32. DEG

    Good music.

  33. DEG

    Judge shoots down Gauleiter Bashear’s Lil Rona emergency orders. Trigger Warning: CNN

    A circuit judge ordered Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear on Thursday to cease issuing or enforcing executive orders related to Covid-19 on the same day that the Democrat signed an executive order mandating that Kentuckians must wear a facial covering or mask in public in certain situations.
    Scott County Circuit Judge Brian Privett issued a temporary restraining order against Beshear in a case filed by Kentucky Agriculture Commissioner Ryan Quarles and agritourism business Evans Orchard and Cider Mill, LLC, challenging the governor’s use of executive power during the pandemic. Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron, a Republican, joined the lawsuit last week.
    In order to issue and enforce executive orders related to Covid-19, Privett wrote that the governor must first “specifically state the emergency that requires the order, the location of the emergency, and the name of the local emergency management agency that has determined that the emergency is beyond its capabilities.”

    • DEG

      Huh. I can’t spell. Beshear, not Bashear.

      • robc

        He is only governor because:

        1. Bevin was an idiot

        2. His Daddy was governor.

    • CPRM

      I live in an area where Native Americans (Injuns) are a large percentage of the population. As a child I was friends with many of them and didn’t even think about the fact they were a different ‘race’ until the public school started treating them different from me.

    • ChipsnSalsa

      Enter Dr Nicola Rollock and Professor Rhiannon Turner, who we were told are ‘experts in unconscious racial bias’.

      *eye roll*

      Is this any different that the tailor that can create clothes that are invisible to those who are stupid / incompetent?

      • Not Adahn

        Hey! No giving away trade secrets!

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Party of the Working Man

    “This is our moment to imagine and to build a new American economy for our families and for our communities, an economy for every American,” Biden said. “Every American has a chance to get a fair return for the work they put in, an equal chance to get ahead.”

    The message Biden laid out in opening remarks echoes ideas from progressive Democrats, who have pushed behind the scenes for Biden to use this historic moment to rewrite the rules with drastically wider social safety nets and higher taxes on the wealthy.

    The policies themselves were not starkly different from those that Biden had previously outlined, though. He echoed his call for Amazon to pay income taxes. He said he would raise the U.S. corporate tax rate to 28% from the current 21%, just as he did previously. He also again pushed for a $15 an hour federal minimum wage.

    But his rhetoric reflected America in 2020, which is rife with anger from many on Main Street who believe that Wall Street is getting bailed out ahead of them.

    ″[In this] crisis, Donald Trump has been almost singularly focused on the stock market, the Dow and Nasdaq. Not you, not your families,” he said. “If I’m fortunate enough to be elected president, I’ll be laser-focused on working families, the middle-class families … we must reward work as much as we rewarded wealth.”

    He spoke to racial inequality that the coronavirus pandemic has laid bare, having promised earlier in the day he would invest $70 billion in minority-led colleges and universities.

    He chastised the principle of “shareholder capitalism” and told the audience that “Wall Street bankers and CEOs didn’t build America.” It was built, instead, by labor and unions who made the middle class, he said.

    He’s a moderate. The MSNBC “business” channel says so.

    • PieInTheSky

      The message Biden laid out in opening remarks echoes ideas – I would not call that meaningless crap “ideas”

    • CPRM

      He chastised the principle of “shareholder capitalism” and told the audience that “Wall Street bankers and CEOs didn’t build America.” It was built, instead, by labor and unions who made the middle class, he said.

      Yep, unions made the middle class, that’s why socialists love the bourgeoisie.

      • Rhywun

        Wow, he is dangerously stupid.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      Donald Trump has been almost singularly focused on the stock market, the Dow and Nasdaq. Not you, not your families,”

      well, he got me there. most of my retirement is in S&P index funds.

      #s&pLivesMatter

    • PieInTheSky

      what is Argorism ?

      • CPRM

        Asian fans of Al Gore?

      • Viking1865

        It’s a branch of libertarian philosophy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agorism

        There’s a scifi book called Alongside Night that is a pretty fun quick read that has some of the basic principles.

        One of the main features of Agorism is recognizing the corporation as a creature of the state, not as an organic association of individuals in a free market. Which I find myself more and more in agreement with and enthusiastic toward.

      • PieInTheSky

        I know what Agorism is

      • UnCivilServant

        A philosophy for the persecution of agoraphobics?

        /snark

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        In short, ethical but illegal economic activity.

  35. DEG

    Gauleiterin Mills tightens her grip

    Gov. Janet Mills said last week she would be taking the statewide mask mandate a step further with an Executive Order that requires businesses in Maine’s more populous and coastal counties to enforce the mandate. Mills signed the order on Wednesday and took effect immediately.

    The order says large retail businesses, restaurants, outdoor bars, tasting rooms, and lodging establishments in Cumberland, Hancock, Knox, Lincoln, Sagadahoc, Waldo, and York counties, as well as the municipalities of Auburn, Augusta, Bangor, Brewer, and Lewiston must implement measures requiring customers to wear face coverings.

    The order says businesses can do this by denying entry or service for customers not wearing face coverings.

    • invisible finger

      So the government is requiring discrimination?

    • Drake

      Face coverings in bars, restaurants, and tasting rooms? How exactly does that work?

  36. The Late P Brooks

    Gov. Janet Mills said last week she would be taking the statewide mask mandate a step further with an Executive Order that requires businesses in Maine’s more populous and coastal counties to enforce the mandate.

    We’re all in this together. Do my dirty work, so I don’t get blamed, or I’ll put you out of business.

    • invisible finger

      SCOTUS said the police aren’t obligated to enforce laws. So why would a non-government entity be required to enforce them?

      • Don Escaped both Landslides

        Gonzalez v Castle Rock? I read that one to say that cops act on behalf of the jurisdiction exclusively (preserve “order”) and if some citizen gets a bit of residual protection, well that’s nice for him.

        Of course, jurisdictions are another matter

    • PieInTheSky

      1) A stranger than fiction Roman ring mystery thread: this enigmatic Roman gold ring was found in a ploughed field near Silchester in 1785. The square bezel has a portrait of the pagan goddess Venus, inscribed backwards SUNEV for use as a signet ring by the ow

      https://twitter.com/OptimoPrincipi/status/1281534833320222721

      • Jarflax

        Why does Venus look like Ash from Sing? Damn Roman Furries.

    • R C Dean

      Excellent. Both the amazing Roman glass and the story about the ring.

      Sometimes, even social media can be no entirely bad.

  37. Festus' Mustache

    Anyone doing the chat tonight? I might fall into the couch again but it is awfully fun.

    • Festus' Mustache

      That’s my way of saying “Sayanora”.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I might like to at least eavesdrop sometime but it rarely fits my schedule.

        Gute Nacht, F.!

    • PieInTheSky

      well if you are still there in the morning I may join… I was under the impression the chat was no longer a thing. So not sure I will find it. anyhoo

      • Tulip

        It’s always a thing. Friday and Saturday nights

    • UnCivilServant

      If China is going to keep introducing diseases, the only solution is the sterilize the entire region, eliminate all life down to the microbial level.

      Nuclear hellfire it is.

      • PieInTheSky

        I mean would anyone really miss China?

      • Gustave Lytton

        *throws whiskey onto fire*

    • ChipsnSalsa

      anyone else getting a blank page?

  38. Fourscore

    ” including the Green New Deal, by printing more money”

    This guy gets it, a BernieBros advisor to Biden. Gonna have to up the ante on Trump though, there’s competition out there

  39. Plisade

    Tech question… I just bought a Suunto 7 watch to aid in my outdoors activitahs. This morning it told me that I have one event planned today, Theater from 1900 to 2100. I *am* going to see Empire Strikes Back tonight at a little theater with a friend.

    Strange thing is, I never put this on any calendar, work or home; that event isn’t showing on either. I didn’t buy the tickets. I thought maybe Google had picked up on it somehow – the watch runs on Google Wear – but it’s not in Google Calendar (which I never use) either. My friend didn’t put it on her calendar.

    The only indication that I was even doing this were in 2 texts over 2 days. The first mentioned “Friday night” and “theater” but no time. The next day a separate text had the start time only.

    How does the watch know?!

    • CPRM

      Paranoia?

      • Plisade

        Well, now, yeah!

    • Viking1865

      Is your credit card/debit card saved in Google?

      • Plisade

        She bought the tickets.

    • PieInTheSky

      The NSA is watching you

      • Plisade

        This isn’t helping 😛 I’m really freaked out by this.

      • PieInTheSky

        everything sends data to everything. It eventually gets everywhere . if you have nothing to hide…

      • Jarflax

        everything sends data to everything. It eventually gets everywhere . if you have nothing to hide…

        Ooh, a riddle!

        a. you need to get out more.
        b. you are a Ken Doll.
        c. that itself is something to hide.

      • Sensei

        The Borg, aka Google, use holistic AI across products. It will take web searches, texts (assuming Android phone), gmail and anything else and make “suggestions”.

        It’s frighteningly efficient. I have them do this on my Google Wear watch as well.

      • Plisade

        Thank you. I had no idea.

      • R C Dean

        And if you have an always on voice assistant, what you say gets added to the mix. I have had no end of people tell me they say something, without more, and immediately start getting ads for it.

      • Plisade

        Haha, nice. I’m getting there.

    • UnCivilServant

      I’ve heard stupider names.

    • ChipsnSalsa

      Good use of “safety plywood” to protect the truck.

    • Don Escaped both Landslides

      @holdmyale

      followed

  40. RAHeinlein

    Someone wrote “BLM” on the sidewalk in-front of my house. Lettering precisely matched the hard-written “BLM” sign across the street which is suddenly occupied by out-of-state sub-letters who were part of the “protest” earlier this week.

    • CPRM

      Your private front walk, or the city’s sidewalk?

      • RAHeinlein

        City’s sidewalk.

      • CPRM

        Oh, don’t leave skidmarks on it, then it’s a hate crime.

      • Don Escaped both Landslides

        It’s a public way on an easement on your property, no?

        In some places, your lot (and mineral rights!) run to the center of the street.

      • kinnath

        My lot starts 50 ft from the center of the road.

    • Not Adahn

      Muriatic acid? For the neighbors I mean.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      Document early. Document often.

    • PieInTheSky

      meh who cares really

    • kinnath

      Time to open carry.

    • Jarflax

      Damn the Bureau of Land Management is handling smaller and smaller parcels these days.

    • whiz

      Hi RAH,

      The joys of living in Campustown, I guess.

      “Black Lives Matter” was painted on the base of the foot bridge across the Skunk river at Carr Park a couple of weeks ago (I take our dog there sometimes). The letters were painted over, presumably by Ames Parks & Rec, within a few days. Report it to the city and see what happens.

      Or maybe it was a vigilante act to cover the writing on the bridge.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    Pessimism?

    …eventually that seizure will end (perhaps with the help of monoclonal antibody treatments in the fall) and businesses will call workers back. That, however, won’t return the U.S. economy to full strength right away. A deeper, more lasting recession is brewing — one that won’t be as acute, but which has the potential to last much longer.

    One reason is business closures. Lack of demand during the pandemic will simply make a lot of businesses vanish. Even if the demand for their goods and services returns, it takes time to start and expand new businesses to replace the ones that died. During that time, workers will be out of work. This will produce a fairly traditional Keynesian demand shock, as those unemployed workers have less money to spend.

    A second reason is sheer pessimism. Seeing the entire economy seize up for months will probably have a chilling effect on investors and consumers, further depressing demand.

    Whaaa? People might be reluctant to invest their time, money and expertise in building a new business, now that they know the government is willing and able to shutter them on a whim?

    That’s the craziest thing I ever heard.

    • Don Escaped both Landslides

      chilling effect on investors

      guilty

      • Jarflax

        Yup

      • R C Dean

        Ditto. New money is staying in cash. Current diversified portfolio is doing OK so I’m leaving it alone.

    • CPRM

      ‘Government says it will confiscate wealth from businesses, mysteriously investment down.’

  42. The Late P Brooks

    How does the watch know?!

    You’re slacking, Citizen. Put your back into it. Bend, 2, 3, 4. Stretch, 2, 3, 4.

    • Plisade

      I saw a shirt recently, “Make Orwell Fiction Again.”

  43. The Late P Brooks

    Someone wrote “BLM” on the sidewalk in-front of my house.

    It’s a TRAP!

    • Swiss Servator

      The Bureau of Land Management is watching!

  44. DEG

    Gauleiterin Whitmer also tightens her grip

    Gov. Gretchen Whitmer on Friday toughened and expanded Michigan’s mask-wearing requirements, saying that wearing masks is the best way to reverse an increase in coronavirus cases.

    Whitmer issued an executive order that:

    Requires any business that is open to the public to refuse entry or service to people who refuse to wear a face covering, with limited exceptions
    Requires the use of face coverings in crowded outdoor spaces.
    Reiterates that individuals are required to wear a face covering whenever they are in an indoor public space.

    The order takes effect Monday.

  45. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    grrrrr. just got an email from HR with a “summer book club” announcement. book #1? “How to be an antiracist”

    *sigh*
    12 months until I use up all my single-use benefits and can start looking for a new job.

    • Don Escaped both Landslides

      so, do you have any questions for us?

      yeah! you’re not bought into that SJW crap around here, are ya?

      / newest addition to list of questions I wished we could ask at the interview

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Hope book club is optional.

    • DEG

      I got one like that too. “How to be an Antiracist” is this month’s book.

      We don’t work at the same company do we?

      • DEG

        Recent as in two years ago?

    • KSuellington

      I’m sure the next month’s offering will be “White Fragility”

      Could you make any suggestions? Maybe Sowell’s “Discrimination and Race” or “Intellectuals and Race” for a counterpoint.

      • Jarflax

        Sorry, but that is now called a conversation.

      • KSuellington

        I figured such. Just wondering if there was any room for, “that book looks really thought provoking. I will have to put it on my list. It’s vitally important to recognize the immense contributions that blocks scholars have made, especially at this time in our history. I just started a fascinating book by Thomas Sowell, but your recommendation is going to the top of my list after I finish….”

    • straffinrun

      It’s brainwashing time. I know you got a family to take care of, so the choice is hard. I’d tell them that the only way I’d read it is if I’m allowed to give my honest opinion afterwards.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      I think that was on my company’s list too along with White Fragility and Raising White Kids. I told my boss I’m going to start looking elsewhere, because this is going nowhere good. He’s from the Soviet Union, so he gets where I’m coming from, but he’s freaked out because he thinks I’m indispensable. I also told my dad he should dump my company’s stock, which I should start doing too.

      • R C Dean

        Since when do companies have reading lists?

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        since our entire culture devolved to the maturity level of a 5th grade public school.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        Since we’ve been made to care.

  46. The Late P Brooks

    “How to be an antiracist”

    Punch anybody who won’t shut up about racism?

  47. The Late P Brooks

    The “I fucking love gobbledygook” party

    The United States should not have to rely as much on charitable contributions from billionaires to help solve the nation’s economic challenges, Biden campaign surrogate Pete Buttigieg told CNBC on Thursday.

    “It’s wonderful when there are these major commitments, generous commitments by individuals, but we’ve also got to ask how things got so unequal in the first place,” the former Democratic presidential candidate said on “Squawk Box.”

    Buttigieg’s remarks came in response to a question about whether to tax charitable contributions such as the one that multibillionaire Warren Buffett just announced.

    ——-

    Instead of taxing philanthropy, Buttigieg said it would make more sense for the U.S. to have a more equitable tax structure on the “front end.” That way, he said, the tax revenue would support programs and other efforts that reduce inequality that have more input from voters.

    “If a little bit more of that was making its way into a democratically guided process, in other words the kind of research and development that invent trillion dollar ideas like the internet itself and space travel, we know our country is better off,” said Buttigieg, the former two-term mayor of South Bend, Indiana. “We’ve got to ask where the balance is.”

    For example, Buttigieg referenced a report last year that found a full-time worker earning the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour is unable to pay for an affordable two-bedroom apartment anywhere in the U.S. However, some states and localities have higher minimum wages than the federal rate, which has remained the same for about a decade.

    “I would argue that if that weren’t the case, if we had higher wages and more public investment, we wouldn’t need to lean on philanthropy quite as much as we do,” Buttigieg said.

    What a pointless and idiotic gripe. Why not, “Nobody making minimum wage can afford a Maserati, and that’s not fair.”

    Is there a “full time worker earning the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour” over the age of 17 anywhere in the country? Bring him or her out on stage.

    Charity is bad, because it isn’t run by government bureaucrats: not a compelling argument.

    • PieInTheSky

      but we’ve also got to ask how things got so unequal in the first place, – end the fed

      • Viking1865

        Plus zoning and other housing regulations.

        1920 NYC Apartment average rent was 60 dollars a month. In a country where the average wage was 3,200 dollars per year.

        So you could live in NYC, paying less than a quarter of your gross income to rent.

    • Viking1865

      My wife went back to retail during the bullshit lockdown. Her company has the worst starting wages of the 10 stores in the shopping center, and they pay 1.50 an hour over minimum wage.

  48. KSuellington

    I’m with Banjos on this one. Just got a wager down with my brother about this and tonite I’m gonna try and get another friend to bet for Biden. He might be tough to convince though as he is going to owe me big come the first Monday in November already. Of course with such a wild year anything could happen, but I think the enthusiasm gap is huge, and despite Dem shenanigans I think El Trumpo will get more EC votes than last time.

    • Don Escaped both Landslides

      I still wish I could figure out a legal way for a Glibs pool on this.

      Meanwhile, all my money is going towards building a pile of Biden-stole-the-election-with-fraudulent-mail-in-ballots tee shirts

      • Jarflax

        I really wish I was sure you are wrong. I was not at all surprised in 2016. I thought Trump’s support was clearly under-reported in the polls because people were afraid to openly claim they supported him, and the “Blue Wall” was obviously porous after Hillary’s repeated attacks on the core of the blue collar vote. This time around the Democrats have better machines in a number of the swing States. Trump has a window to win, but it is narrower than last times, and I really think the people predicting a landslide are delusional. There are 30+ States which are absolutely guaranteed to go to a specific party, and another dozen that are overwhelmingly likely to go for a specific party, with a slight edge to the Democrats in EC votes across that 43-46 State map. That leaves the entire election being decided by 4-7 States.

    • Akira

      I think Biden is probably totally fucking insane at this point, and the Dems know that they have to keep him backstage for now. They’re probably doing one of two things:

      A) Hoping that he can win based on the “anyone but Trump” votes, after which the vice president will be running the show.

      B) Scrambling to find someone to take his place so they can start campaigning.

      • KSuellington

        Definitely in on it if you do, Don.

        I think the Dems will continue with the Hidin’ Biden strategy. There will be some softball interviews and such, but I don’t think we see any live debates. If the Dems agree to a debate, it will be virtual so they can teleprompt every response of Joe’s.

      • Viking1865

        Yeah and I still don’t see how you can actually persuade the country that a guy can be POTUS without doing the debates.

        Like, yes, the Journolist will spin and shill as hard as they can, but I still firmly believe that the moderate, apolitical swing voter considers the Presidential debates to be an intrinsic part of the process, a vital step for anyone who wants to be POTUS.

      • KSuellington

        “Joe Biden is more than ready to take on his challenger, he’s shown he’s a fighter for decades now. Due to the recent spikes in Covid cases, having a live debate format is not appropriate at this time. That’s why Joe has called for virtual debates. If the President is too intimidated to participate that tells you all you really need to know about his character. “

      • Viking1865

        “Joe’s not tough enough, sad to say it. He doesn’t have the heart for this job. It’s a tough job, believe me. We all remember how sick Hillary was when I beat her four years ago, but she showed up to all the debates even with all her health problems, and did her best. Joe must be really just about done in. Maybe his VP could come debate me, that’s who will really be running the country anyway.”

  49. Akira

    OT: Anyone read any good introductory history books on the Civil War? Just looking for something maybe 300-500 pages that gives a general overview of the setting, causes, events, and resolution of the conflict. And of course, it would be nice if it had more nuance and detail than “wyPipO haD slAeveS & ThEn LinkiN seT tHem aLL freE“.

    I’m on a personal project to learn more about the most significant civilizations, empires, time periods, wars, and people. I’ve always been a history buff, but my knowledge is a bit spotty. I finished my book on ancient Mesopotamia a few weeks ago; working on Ancient Egypt now. Got a long way to go.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Ken Burns book accompanying the TV series? Sorry if too obvious.

    • Viking1865

      The thing with the Civil War, is you need to read at least two. The Civil War is like the New Deal where the vast majority of consensus “scholarship” is straight up worship of the President. I’d pair Battle Cry of Freedom with Emancipating Slaves, Enslaving Free Men to get a good overview of the conflicting narratives.

      • Akira

        Yea, that’s what I was worried about. I’ll take that advice.

        I’m gonna run into the same problem with the Arab-Israeli conflict :/