Nice first career goal!
I got a slow start today. Liverpool got back to winning, Man City lost a shocker, Spuds play Everton in a really big match for both clubs today. And that’s about it.
A classic.
Singapore founder Stamford Raffles was born on this day. He shares it with Mexican Emperor Maximilian I, oilman Harry Ford Sinclair, painter Frida Kahlo, former First Lady and noted occultist Nancy Reagan, early rock-n-roller Bill Haley, the Dalai Lama, warmonger George W Bush, acting legend Sylvester Stallone, infielder Willie Randolph, rapper 50 Cent, actor Kevin Hart, and my lovely wife who does links better than me, Banjos.
That was a solid list. Now on to…the links!
Atlanta’s mayor has had enough. We’ll see how she’s received by the media now.
Now comes the shaming, I guess.
PUT ON THE RIBBON!!!!! Whatever. This has becoming more about getting in line than getting on board.
This is fine. Yes, I’m being sarcastic.
Let the finger-pointing begin. Because that’s what this has all become anyway.
Speaking of finger-pointing. You know, if you let your residents arm themselves, perhaps criminals wouldn’t feel emboldened to do whatever the hell they wanted.
It was a holiday weekend. So this was completely expected.
“Beats me how those edits get done.”
More revisionism. I swear, if Biden taps her, he may be the dumbest man alive.
People in power want more power over people. Big surprise there, I know. I hope Abbott resists. But I’m losing confidence at this point.
Here you go, friends. A solid, rocking start to the week.
Now get out there and have a great day. I’ve got a cake to bake and dinner to plan.
There can only be one first.
And his name is Brochettaward!
Happy birthday Banjos, from the top of the thread.
Happy Birthday Banjos!
Yeah. That Sloppy Inca is a lucky feller.
She’s smart, pretty, fecund and has good musical taste. Sloop won the lottery.
Yep, Happy Birthday ?
Happy birthday Banjos!
CNN: a wave of gun violence sweeps the US.
So while we get rid of the police we should abolish gun rights too. These people hate you and they only want to squash you.
No police + no gun rights = no dice
Restore constitutional gun rights and I’m definitely willing to talk.
^^^ Bob Murphy points this out. He argued that part of the problem with CHAZ was that the local business owners knew that the cops weren’t going to be gone forever, so hiring mercenaries to enforce their property rights was not going to fly, and would land then in trouble soon.
“if Biden taps her, he may be the dumbest man alive”
It’s not like there wasn’t a line in front of him.
I see it as more of a race.
^ racist
Can imagine Biden is tapping anybody.
Maybe your daughter’s shoulder?
Apropos
Wouldn’t be the first time she got tapped to advance her career.
There it is. 🙂
I guess they’ll just Memory Hole all the nasty shit she said about Biden during the primaries. Along with her record as a prosecutor.
Prepare for all the corporate news stations to issue copyright takedown notices on clips of her calling Biden a racist.
Anyone read the article about her Wikipedia entry being “sanitized” by one individual contributor whom has been cleaning out all the bad shit she did? Of course they make it sound like the other editors tried to fight this, but they never explain why they in the end caved to this one editor doing the cleanup. My guess is this is a smoke screen to lend legitimacy to the platform when people point out this shit stinks.
I keep hearing about how great Susan Rice is. She always seemed like the dumbest of Obama’s “Mulatto Militia”.
She’s quite possibly the ringleader for framing up Flynn. So she has a sort of competence, if you ignore what that competence was used to do.
The lynching of Flynn only became exposed because this group, which was so inept but completely used to bamboozling anyone that might object to their criminal activity, somehow managed to lose an election they had rigged for the only person that could seriously out-criminal Obama. They then bungled the attempted soft coup they hoped to facilitate through their Flynn takedown. That machine isn’t competent as much as it was used to have nobody that could challenge their criminality. None of these Obama people are bright as much as they are criminally cunning.
Fair enough. They never thought the rules would apply to them. Though, so far, they’ve been right.
He’s a sniffer, not a tapper.
He won’t, it’s Warren, and he’ll still be the dumbest man alive.
At least we have a cure for the bubonic plague.
Black Lives Matter is not about any political stance. By taking a knee, you do not choose to support a side in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine. By taking a knee, you do not back calls to defund police. By taking a knee, you are not displaying a gesture that should be deemed “controversial in some countries”. And by taking a knee, you are not demonstrating a symbol of subjugation and subordination.
Stick it up your ass, you sanctimonious twat.
Also- good for Kimi.
I don’t care if you claim the message is “have a nice day” I’m not going to be bullied into saying it.
Great point and phrased perfectly.
In the old show Boondocks, MLK came back and went on a Fox News panel on the runup to the Iraq war and was interrupted and browbeat by all the other guests with “why can’t you just say you love America!?”, would make a great response in that scenario too.
Yep. The irony of insisting that people take the knee and also insisting it doesn’t mean submission. *Shrugs*
I don’t even bend my knee when I’m praying and I’m not going to belittle myself by showing subservience to a person or a cause. These people judging others for not engaging in this meaningless ritual can suck it.
Praying is the ONLY time I will bend the knee – not for any Man, but for God only.
What if they threatened to throw you in a firey furnace?
Obligatory.
I’d rather burn on my feet than cower on my knees.
/I hope I never have to back that up with action
You do what you have to do and start planning your revenge.
I bend my knee to no man. This one’s for you and this other one is for the horse you rode in on.
All of those claims are demonstrably false.
Motte/Bailey
See also:
Motte: Martin Luther King Jr. had a vision for the country that we should all embrace
Bailey: Wypipo are too stupid to understand what MLK really meant
or
Bailey: Cancel MLK
I think we are supposed to ignore BLM’s website.
“I only require that you kneel.”
Okay, Xerxes.
I prefer Zod.
Submission. Well that’s a bit of a problem.
::adjusts leather bikini::
Straight reporting. Not a hint of editorializing.
“Black Lives Matter is not about any political stance.”
Yeah, sure, that’s why they say they’re trained Marxists. Nothing political there at all.
I didn’t read the F1 story linked to but I’ve been following it on BBC.
The drivers who didn’t kneel, cited what that gesture meant in their home cultures. Hamilton said they needed to learn more about taking a knee. Uh huh. But Hamilton doesn’t need to learn about other cultures.
The non-conformists who took a knee are now demanding conformity and vice versa.
I’m surrounded by assholes.
It’s not about respecting anything. It’s about making people bend a knee, literally, and do what they’re told.
Yep. OBEY!
In my culture, deep throating is what all guests do to show respect.
I thought that Wisconsin folk were rather reserved.
We think we’re Superior.
So do people from Ohio. The similarity is Erie.
Keep going, Huron a roll!!
Tarry on, Tio!
Huge match today…loser is out of the race for 7th. Draw probably eliminates both.
Good luck. On one hand, I hope you guys win. On the other, I hope somebody knocks Arsenal out of European play and Spuds may be better positioned to do that.
Arsenal fans are the absolute worst. Seeing them left out of Europe is really all I want to see from the rest of the league season.
I have to disagree a bit here. Arsenal fans were rather nice to me, even when they had the opportunity not to be. Back in the mid 90s I went to see Chelsea v. Arsenal at Highbury. Bought a ticket from a scalper, and it ended up being in the first row of the North Stand, right behind the goal, and right in the middle of the rabid Arsenal fans. And there I was, a Chelsea supporter. Kept my mouth shut for most of the match (Chelsea went up 2-0, then Arsenal came back to lead 3-2). Chelsea equalized right before the end, and I couldn’t help myself any longer and let out a cheer. Stewards came in immediately to remove me from the stadium, but the Arse fans around me told them that it was ok, that I was a good person (they were handing out Arsenal hats before the match, and I gave the one they handed to me to a kid whose father was trying to get one for him).
Still made sure that I left the stadium quickly and avoided the big groups of fans on the way home…
For once I will root for your guys. Mourinho can suck it.
Happy birthday Banjos.
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Randolph isn’t a HOFer, IMO, but his vote total was ludicrously small. He got 1.1% in his one year on the ballot. Its weird that everyone looked at him, and went “Nope, not good enough” considering some of the players who get significant votes.
Of his top 10 in similarity scores, 4 are HOFers, so if he had been elected it wouldn’t have been a horrible thing. I guess I shouldn’t complain about the voters getting one right for a change.
Willie probably had too much of his value tied up in walks and defense to get a “fair” shake in 1998. If you look at him through that lens you can say “here’s a guy who never had more than 7 HRs and only topped .300 twice in 18 seasons” and it’s much easier to convince yourself he’s ordinary. If it were held right now I think he’d do better in the voting.
I’ve been watching a lot of old AL games on YouTube. Part of Randolph’s “problem” was he played second base the same time as Lou Whitaker. Whitaker was better offensively, but Randolph was better defensively. But the voters are more impressed with defense at shortstop than at second base.
“Secoriea Turner, 8, was shot in the area of University Ave and I-75/85 Saturday night while riding in a vehicle with her mother and an adult friend, according to police. The driver was attempting to enter a parking lot at 1238 Pryor Road where a group of individuals illegally placed barricades. Someone in the group opened fire on the vehicle, according to police, striking Turner…
Police describe one of the shooters as a man dressed like a bounty hunter, wearing all black, and the other shooter as a man wearing a white T-shirt. Police are offering a $10,000 reward for any information leading to Secoriea’s killers.”
CNN is giving lazy hack journalists a bad name. You masturbating chimps are literally in Atlanta. Someone could have walked there, with a piece of construction paper and some crayons, and wrote a more informative story.
That bit of info is from the wanted poster.
“At the moment, authorities said that the tragic shooting was not related to protests in any way. ”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8492651/Killed-baby-8-year-old-girl-killed-Atlanta-shooting.html
Then why were there barricades?
“Police describe one of the shooters as a man dressed like a bounty hunter, wearing all black, ”
Did he have the wrist band and vest?
I was confused, exactly how does a bounty hunter dress? Are we talking Boba Fett or Duane Chapman?
Nancy Walker.
+1 quicker picker upper
Trying to imagine an all black Hawaiian shirt… Coming up empty. Be better news-droids.
Police describe one of the shooters as a man dressed like a bounty hunter,
Just ask the local beskar dealer for their customer list.
“a man dressed like a bounty hunter, wearing all black, and the other shooter as a man wearing a white T-shirt“
I don’t even know what the first description means. And the second is super helpful.
Just a group of totally random people who happened to put up barricades for no particular reason, too. Weird.
“Is this some type of retaliation because of the national fever over confederate monuments right now? Very disappointing, it’s beyond disappointing,” Eison told WROC.
Come on, call them out for being the ahistorical morons they are. Illiterate feral children pretending to be grown-ups.
Yeah, seeing as the antifa have vandalized every statue they come across, I don’t see how it might not have been them.
That’s a terrible story and I’d probably go Death Wish if some idiot killed my kid like that.
But Bottoms said while the civil rights movement had a “defined common enemy” the current situation was different.
Still…. that’s a funny sentence.
It’s also inaccurate. The current movement does have defined common enemies: capitalism and freedom.
Will they care when they realize they are being used by people who hate them?
“He’s no good to me dead.”
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I should have watched but didn’t because Man City.
In 1848, an anonymous young man woke in the night to pee. He didn’t want to leave the room, so found a bottle. He didn’t realise it contained potassium, which burns on contact with water. His penis was instantly sucked into the bottle & couldn’t be removed
https://twitter.com/WhoresofYore/status/1279872708902375424
All I could think of
#metoo.
That’s a Jim Croce song.
*strongly narrows gaze*
Scroll up. You missed one.
He was just trying to save time in a bottle.
Oh… That’s the joke.
That’ll teach him to leave open bottles of Potassium around…
K.
He.
You’re all bananas.
Only periodically.
NaH.
I heard about the same thing happening to an astronaut named Tony Nelson.
Yet another 60s sitcom where the theme song was much better than the show itself.
See also: F Troop, Gilligan’s Island, The Munsters, on and on….
Governor Blackface appears to be going full tilt on the gun control special session. I can’t imagine he would call it if he didn’t think he could get something passed.
Accordingly, I bought a Mini-14 last Friday.
I want to know why he didn’t wait till the regular session.
Supreme Court refusing cert on gun cases came down. They realize they can pass all kinds of unconstitutional BS and the case won’t be taken up so they’re striking while the iron is hot. Not only that, they can brand the inevitable protestors as dangerous due to COVID (these gun rights scumbags don’t give a shit about anybody but themselves). They might even try to outlaw them.
Because panicky animals are stupid? What did I win? (other than the prize for starting my sentence with a subordinate conjunction)
Which version did you get? I have the tactical. Thinking about getting a Ruger 10/22 takedown or the .22 charger next.
https://ruger.com/products/mini14RanchRifle/specSheets/5817.html
Mmmmmmm matte stainless(saying matte stainless reminds me of Team America repeating Matt Damon).
Here’s the model I have:
https://ruger.com/products/mini14TacticalRifle/specSheets/5847.html
I really can’t wait to get out of this state.
Silly me, I figured I’d be good for more than five years…
Will CNN’s next story be about how all the old antibiotics don’t really work on the plague and they should be banned?
“We’re fighting the enemy within when we are shooting each other up in our streets,” the mayor said.”
Is she finally the first politician to publicly acknowledge it?
Flop-Sweat is a thing. I wonder how that scissoring bitch in Chicago sleeps at night.
On a down mattress, with her concubines?
hurk hurk hurk
“F1 drivers who didn’t take a knee have reduced #WeRaceAsOne slogan to an empty gesture”
If only they had bent three knee. Then we could have had real societal change.
They’re right – it is an empty gesture.
Three knee.
1.Left knee, 2. right knee, and 3. wee-knee.
CBS just now:
Trump’s speech announced himself as keeper of American tradition and protector of rights.
And when we come back from this commercial break, What’s going on with Harry and Meaghan!
American media has a distinct fascination with the British monarchy. ABC is usually the title holder in this regard.
Look damnit, if you covered for a serial kiddie diddler, and sex slave trafficker, so you can cover the royal family, then you will cover them as much as possible.
This place sucks. Not a one of you has the spine to defend Epstein to the death.
I’m just a shill for the anti Epstein agenda
I just hang out here.
Ugh….left out the best part. Should have written
Trump’s speech announced himself as keeper of American tradition and protector of rights although * nods dismissively * he hasn’t the first notion of American history or . . . .
This is what i have been thinking about, this morning:
Once upon a time, this country was seemingly boundless in its optimism. People underwent incredible risk and privation to get here, because they believed they could carve out a better future for themselves and their families. You don’t get off a boat in a strange foreign land with the clothes on your back and a five ruble note in your shoe just for a change of scenery. You look around and see opportunity and growth and satisfaction.
Now, all I seem to hear is an endless drumbeat of gloom and doom. Instead of opportunity, instead of looking expectantly at the best case scenario, our ‘public intellectuals” seem to uniformly view the worst case scenario as not only what we should expect, but the best we can do. Apocalypse porn. Fuck that.
Our institutions all pretty much went insane after 9/11. I see it almost like the guy who goes to a boxing gym, gets hit in the face, and collapses into sobs instead of covering up or counterpunching.
That’s a pretty good analogy. It would be like cowering when your bully threatened you even if you had six inches of reach and fifty pounds on him.
We no longer have public intellectuals. Just public grifters. We, the citizenry, have become lazy and failed to enforce the Constitution.
Who’s “We”, White man?
Not really. I just go along to get along.
Muricans
Maybe the constitution lulled people into a false sense of security. Food for thought, anyways.
The anti Bill of Rights argument.
Icky people get Rights too? Eeewwwww
Holy shit what a snotty, enraging article. ?
Well chosen, sloop.
The deaths of those kids is so horrible. And everyone politicizing this moment will continue to not care about them.
Ironically about 10 minutes before I clicked on these links I read this:
If the statues got up off their plinth every night and lynched the first black man they could find, I’d have been a lot more supportive of their removal.
You may hate Twitter, but sometimes it is just what the world needs.
https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1279800537899102209
Grenell is the best. Trump should have kept him as DNI.
FWIW, that is a wypipo neighborhood – I know because I grew up in it. Speculate away, the MSM!
OFFS. NYC hospitals weren’t overrun. We’re expected to believe that Texas hospitals will be?
Outside of Italy, is there another country that actually had a problem with the number of beds?
Spain, maybe?
And even then, it got under control fairly quickly given how blindsided they were.
Good point.
I think they still have less used beds than in March.
Fewer.
::strolls away smugly::
It’s spelled Fuhrer, and no, I won’t address you by that title.
*snort*
Same number of beds in use, but now they make the patients get out to kneel in support for BLM, so leon was correct
Thanks, Stannis Baratheon.
Send a hospital ship down there to take to overflow of patients. I think they treated 3 people in NY.
We’re expected to believe that Texas hospitals will be?- Texas does have overall lower taxation does it not? that is sure to cause some additional problems
“Texas does have overall lower taxation does it not? that is sure to cause some additional problems”
It is… there’s been a mass exodus of people fleeing heavy lock down states. Our real estate market has been doing relatively well and most of our businesses are still chugging along. It sounds like they’ll be opening all the schools in the fall. I may have to take guardianship of my niece and nephew just to get them out of Washington state so they can go to school an continue to advance their lives.
F1 drivers are now in on the act. Of all the people. Too funny. Lewis Hamilton is so privileged it’s not even funny. I’m not noticing a lot of explanations as to why they take a knee. Lotsa conflicting reasons. The beauty of that is it keeps it a moving target. For example, Afro-Kap kneeled because it was the closest he could get to spitting on the flag in public. But the narrative was spun away from that initial action into him merely protesting police or some other nonsense.
F1 , like the NBA, was the best in the 80s. My father used to take us every year when it was called the Grand Prix. Less hype, more authentic in its realness. Then it became this techno-Euro trash monstrosity. But I did rather enjoy Ferrari’s resurgence and dominance. Boy did it piss off a lot of people who whined demanding rule changes. Reminds me of the Patriots.
I’m noticing. Ugh.
Mammary Monday gives two big reasons to get out of bed in the morning.
http://archive.li/tuLWq
Ennio Morricone: Oscar-winning Italian film composer dies aged 91
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-53305397
Well now my family is doomed to hear fistful of dollars and extasy of gold on repeat for the rest of the day.
And I’ll spend the rest of my day singing, “Oh-wee-oh-wee-ohhhh! Wah-waaah-wah!”
Aw man. Pure genius.
Dude even did The Thing.
Tune in to Morricone Island, Tuesday evening at 7:00 pm EST on wfmu.org or the wfmu app. I’m sure tomorrow’s show will be a very fine tribute. https://wfmu.org/playlists/PE
My browser pushed this impartial, fair article at me for the whole weekend. Strongmen rush to remake the world order as Trump faces potential election defeat
Analysis by Nic Robertson, CNN. Equal parts delusion and evil, aka suggesting that a real president would be beating the drums of war in Russia and Syria.
http://primarymodel.com/2020
If only Trump took bombing a little more seriously…
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I’ve noticed the “Analysis” label on many of CNN’s biggest steaming piles.
It says “anal” right there in the word, Rhywun…
Happy Birthday Banjos. You do have the best links.
She’s a good person and I appreciate her Dad tunes.
I see I missed my chance to rant about Murphy in last night’s thread. I am unbelievably tired of his two acts.
1. He likes to talk like Morty (from Rick and Morty) – “Ah geez, I’d really like to reopen things, but you know, it’s all dangerous and stuff.”
2. Then he pulls the asshole school marm act – “some people in a bar at the shore got too close, so instead of punishing that bar (and while ignoring the protests I marched in) I’m going to keep every bar and restaurant in the state closed.”
For some reason, he has the power of an absolute dictator to keep it up indefinitely. A Goldman Sachs partner doing everything possible to destroy small businesses and make the middle class even more dependent on government. It’s enraging and humiliating – probably what it was designed to be.
Something about totalitarians and their “collective punishments” of course in this case, it’s not even that since it’s just a pretense to do what he wants to do anyway.
Don’t worry, there’s always the legislature to act as a check…
*looks up PA supreme court decision*
… or not.
China. Bubonic plague. Yeah, that’s scary. If that doesn’t motivate governments to shut down ai travel ASAP I don’t what will.
Rufus: I think it may be a good idea – um, stop kneeling and get up this is more important – we shut down travel from China until they get their shit together.
Justin (gets up adjusting pink shirt): Why? Wouldn’t that be racist. Need I remind you they built our railroads?
Rufus: Move on and, you know, the plague?
Justin: What’s that? You mean like the stuff my dentist takes off my teeth?
Rufus: That’s plaque you sentient piece of bark. The plague is a deadly virus. You know, it wiped out 70% of Europe? It took centuries to recover from it. Of course then the Europeans decided that they were going to have not ONE world war but TWO. A human plague can just be as bad…but then…
Justin: Slow down! There were two world wars? Since 2015?
Rufus (pulls out history book. Points to plaguey pictures): Plague. Shut it down.
Justin: Oh…yeh….that’s not good. Right?
Rufus: Still admire China Justin? Forget your commie father. Shit’s about to get real.
What the fuck is going on China? Jesus, build a bubble around that solarium of viruses.
Fortunately Bubonic Plague is a bacteria fairly easily handled by antibiotics.
I speak out of ignorance. Didn’t know that.
I would not put it past China to come up with a antibiotic resistant form of Yersinia pestis
Don’t you mean controversial antibiotics?
The toppling of Frederick Douglass.
Oh look. See this? My shocked face. I have the most dead-panned shock face. Do you agree?
The eyes have it!
And back to the topic of all news is propaganda today, the article quotes people saying that it is retaliation by racists for taking down Confederate statues. Then, it quotes Trump as saying anarchists have no bounds but offers the qualification “without evidence” as usual to claim Trump is lying without actually saying it.
It also talks about Douglas’s pre emancipation speeches which compare the Independence Day celebration for free men versus those who are not free. What it does not do is talk about his post emancipation speeches but have quite a different take on the topic.
Also absent are the many incidents of black lives matter and antifa protesters taking down abolitionist statues around the country.
So apparently there is a manbearpig virus coming soon that will keep us cowering in place. Who amongst us did not see this one roaring down the turnpike? Have they no shame? Don’t answer, we already know.
What this country needs
This could well be just another West publicity stunt. Yet on some bizarre level, a West candidacy makes sense. It feels like America as we know it is near its demise thanks in large part to Trump’s horrific handling of everything from the Covid-19 crisis to the economy. There’s a reason why a recent Monmouth poll asking whether Americans believe the nation is on the wrong or right track found a stunning 74% saying our country is on the wrong track. So who better to captain the ship as the nation finally goes under than another unqualified, self-centered celebrity?!
Speculation about West’s announcement filled social media Sunday. Some say he’s running to hurt Joe Biden by trying to peel away Black voters from the presumptive Democratic candidate. Others argue the opposite, noting West could attract some of the small percentage of Black voters who like Trump or those who supported Trump because they want to “burn down the system.” Some say West isn’t really running, just promoting his new album. Others, probably rightly, note that West may be doing this simply for attention, much the way Trump does.
That’s the greatest concern. West has every right to run for president. And sadly, the media — like they mostly covered Trump non-stop — will cover West (at least at first) because he’s a celebrity and will likely get ratings and clicks. But this isn’t a game. We aren’t at an MTV awards show. Nor are we living in a time where West could be seen as fun distraction. Rather, we are living in dangerous times that demand thoughtful, informed leadership — not another celebrity fueled by his own ego to get attention.
Save us, Hillary!
“America is slowly going to hell. Rather than an outsider, we need somebody who was in public office for nearly half a century to fix these systemic problems that have plagued us.”
So… satire?
We are indeed living in dangerous times, that demand that our incompetent nimrod ‘leaders’ roll themselves up their own assholes and get out of the way.
Trump ran for president to get attention?! LOL. Never change, CNN.
Trump’s horrific handling of everything from the Covid-19 crisis to the economy
Evidence, please.
Our case numbers are larger than those of countries much smaller than the US.
(Shhhh….don’t mention per capita numbers!)
My favorite was early on when they compared outright numbers to Iceland. Yes, a country with the same population as Tallahassee, FL.
W00t! Go ‘Noles! Go Iceland!
Trumptardian science deniers confirmed!
The Presidential election process does not select for “thoughtful, informed” leadership. It is and has been a popularity contest since George Washington’s time. The question is usually which faction is more energized and turns out in greater numbers. There are some elections with other things going on, but that is the general trend.
There’s a reason we have a Congress and it’s not supposed to just blindly agree with or blindly disagree with everything the President does.
Write!
Because Congressional elections are never popularity contests.
Thank yous to two Glibs but I don’t remember who:
1. Whoever let me know that the Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy miniseries was on Youtube.
2. Whoever posted about No Man’s Land jerky.
Alec Guinness? I love that one.
I loved the movie version… Understand they’re making ‘Smiley’s People’ with Oldman returning.
Awesome. I loved the movie too. That was my introduction to George Smiley. I found Smiley’s People at a half priced bookstore afterwards and read it, then watched both of the Alec Guinness series.
Similar thanks from
me to whoever recommended Grillo’s pickles.
I enjoyed both versions, but Alec Guinness is just so good. His version also seemed to have a more 70s “feel.” Kind of gritty.
He did a mini-series version of “Smiley’s People” which also be found on youtube.
N.J. cops receive millions in surplus military gear. See what your town got.
So much for defunding or demilitarizing the police. They must need them to make sure gyms and bars don’t reopen, ever.
“The primary responsibility of government is to promote public safety and protect its citizens, especially our children,”
And to give the cops neat toys courtesy of the taxpayers. The scummiest fuckers always fall back on the think of the children crap.
“The primary responsibility of government is to promote public safety and protect its citizens, especially our children,”
No it’s not. It’s primary responsibility it to preserve our rights.
Silly me, I thought its purpose was to protect individual liberty.
You’re all wrong. Government doesn’t have any responsibility, and only does what it has to to maintain power.
One thing is for sure. It won’t be used for protecting the town from rioting, looting or arson.
Or bankruptcy / huge property tax increases.
“Senator Duckworth and Most of the Press Are Lying about Trump’s Speech
Senator Tammy Duckworth says that, during his address at Mount Rushmore on Friday, President Trump “spent all his time talking about dead traitors.”
This is a flat-out lie. It is entirely untrue. It is invented from whole cloth. You can read the speech here and see for yourself.
One doesn’t have to like President Trump — or to have enjoyed his speech — in order to acknowledge that Duckworth is lying. One needs only to read what was said.
Trump’s two references to the Civil War came in passages praising Lincoln and condemning slavery.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/senator-duckworth-and-most-of-the-press-are-lying-about-trumps-speech/
You mean it wasn’t really a 45 minute speech dedicated to the memory of General Lee?
I mean, of he praised the founding fathers, then you could say they were traitors.
Hey everybody, get a load of the WaPo fact-checker over here!
Duckworth doesn’t have a leg to stand on.
*golf clap*
Ol’ Tammy, like most Illinois Senators is not….let us just say, very bright. They will do whatever the Party says, and nothing more, nothing less.
The voters who keep voting them in are even dumber than the politicians.
And deader.
I so hope Kanye runs. If that happens, I’m past thinking the Matrix needs a firmware update, I’m thinking it’s been hacked by 4chan.
Problem is that Zion doesn’t get destroyed in the end. (((jk)))
Zion – so think his injury risk is overstated? He did seem in better shape in recent pictures.
Nah. Once he gets his next contract, he’ll only push it when on occasion. Money talks and his handlers/agents will see to it that he doesn’t go Blake Griffin on them.
Hard to say. It’s not as if there are any good comps for him in the past. No one else had his combination of sheer bulk and explosiveness. Closest I can think of was a young Larry Johnson, and he had a lot of injury problems.
Shawn Kemp was pretty jacked for the standards at the time, no? I’m talking about the good bulk he had, not the bad bulk that he put on later using donuts 😉 I guess he was a little taller/longer than Zion and Larry though.
The NBA is still garbage.
Yeezy’s running would kill Biden’s chances. Maybe he and Trump are collaborating.
Maybe. Why would it hurt Biden more?
He’d draw far more black people, a demographic that votes 90 percent Dem, than any other ethnicity. It’s that simple.
This – without something close to 100% of the black vote, Biden loses every swing state.
Split the youngish black vote.
It would also put the media in a pickle; ordinarily they’d go balls deep to destroy someone that could potentially split the Dem vote. However, given all the BLM stuff, they’d have to really thread a needle to avoid pissing off the average black person as the Man trying to keep him down. Sure their talking heads would be ok with it, but the typical black voter would see through it.
I honestly don’t know how much swing he would have to actually have them not vote for Biden. “Other team evil” is a pretty strong force.
If he makes it on the ballot, somebody is gonna be voting for him. The question is where that voting base comes from.
As no one has a vote now, it comes from no one.
I am not getting sucked into the same arguments about Kanye that have been thrown at me for voting LP for 20something years.
How much ballot access could he get at this point?
That seems to depend entirely on whether he has to follow the normal rules (in which case, not much) or if he can get the rules bent to his favor thanks to a sudden surge of activism (which is highly unlikely, despite all the other goings on, since he’s not a Democrat).
This is the salient question. And the answer is….. He is not really running.
Whether he personally believes it or not is a separate question. But he ain’t running.
Good morning, Sloopy!
And a very happy birthday to Banjos!
Sloop, does it feel like you are posting the same lynx every day? The stupid appears to be taking hold. It definitely doesn’t give me confidence in our ability to fight our way out of this ‘ronahoax.
Oh well. There are are still good people (mostly here), good food and good music.
Like this.
I hope you all have a great day!
Sloop, does it feel like you are posting the same lynx every day?
Actually, it feels like they’re getting worse every day. By the time the election gets here, I expect to be posting articles about volcanoes erupting, rivers turning to dust, and plagues of locusts.
Oh wait, one of those is already here: https://www.sciencealert.com/the-locust-plagues-in-east-africa-are-sending-us-a-message-and-it-s-not-a-good-one
“Climate change, after all, is altering our weather patterns and bringing more rain to this part of the world, which will only see locusts thriving more”
Yeah, I’ve never heard of a locust plague before…?
Maybe someone should point out to these cultist that the last big locust plague came when God was trying to make Pharaoh let his people go, so this new one is more of the same? And when they go all Gaia, tell them they lost ya cause she is supposed to be all sweet and oppressed by patriarchy, so she can’t do that stuff…
The Great Myths 9: Hypatia of Alexandria
https://historyforatheists.com/2020/07/the-great-myths-9-hypatia-of-alexandria/
I mean some interesting things but skip a bit brother. brevity and all that.
“Per internal memo, CBS News will begin capitalizing Black — and also Brown and White (tho not “when referring to white supremacists, white nationalists, or white privilege”).”
https://twitter.com/marcatracy/status/1278007638312312832
That’s clear and consistent.
I remember ready an internet comment along the lines it is disrespectful to the suffering of the Irish not to capitalize pasty.
It’s not merely a descriptor, it’s an identity.
Fuck these people.
What about black supremacists or black nationalists…?
How about Black face? Or does the Face get capitalized, too?
Next step
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_Registration_Act,_1950
Getting schooled
Whatever effort colleges are investing on their campuses to reopen, the reality for many students is that most teaching will be remote as socially distanced classrooms can only hold a fraction of their usual capacity.
Many students are frustrated about justifying the full cost of an academic semester, and calls for tuition cuts have grown louder.
Natasha Bacchus, 21, is a senior at American University studying film and media, whose classes require hands-on, collaborative projects. While the school is offering a hybrid model of instruction, she said she was outraged by universities still charging full tuition.
“I refuse to pay thousands of dollars for a yoga class over Zoom,” Bacchus said. “If we have reduced access to dorms, recreation centers and clubs, it makes no sense to pay full tuition for a limited college experience, let alone remote learning.”
“What am I actually paying for?”
Good question.
I’m told my kid will be back to a regular on-campus schedule next month with “precautions”. Anything less and I will be having an unpleasant conversation with the school regarding their tuition and fees.
““What am I actually paying for?”
Good question.
___________________
You’re paying to spend four years surrounded by other young people, to have lots and lots of fun experiences and hopefully meet your future spouse. That’s what colleges are actually selling to the majority of their students.
She’s paying for yoga classes.
“meet your future spouse”
How cis-hetero-mono-normative of them.
“DE-FUND THE COLLEGES”
“If we have reduced access to dorms, recreation centers and clubs, it makes no sense to pay full tuition”
Maybe this asshole should try actually paying the bill herself for once so she would realize tuition does not cover any of those things – those are all separate fees.
^ this
That tuition is paying for an army of “diversity” bureaucrats that didn’t exist a generation ago.
So F1 needs more female Asian drivers?
I remember when racing was about bending the rules to build the fastest car.
So F1 needs more female Asian drivers?
Shouldn’t all female Asian drivers be on closed circuits rather than public roadways?
^This^
They can’t navigate a parking lot
“So F1 needs more female Asian drivers?“
Since I watch for the wrecks, I would say “yes”.
*applause*
That would get me watching.
I think they call that the crash derby….a different sport.
I’ve often seen the statistic that 40% of police are domestic abusers- the stat comes from this Neidig 1992 study. When you dig into the data, the story is much more interesting. Cops’ wives and husbands are *more* violent than cops themselves. thread
https://twitter.com/sentientist/status/1279995355841490948
there may be other studies but I have noticed a trend in sociology to take on single study decades ago with a small sample and extrapolate it to everything today
take on single study decades ago with a small sample and extrapolate it to everything today
Doesn’t surprise me. Sociology is the study of progressing society to a post-capitalist utopia, so they’ll use anything they need to tear society apart.
Cops tend to have aggressive personalities and the job inherently selects for that; Like seeks like when it comes to romantic involvement; Aggressive people who are married to each other are more likely to thump on each other. Not surprising at all.
. Not surprising is true. But a quantitative claim is thrown around a bit to easily.
Studies that use self-reporting or reporting of ones spouse committing violence are kinda tough to take at face value.
You can’t tell me most people would admit to equally participating in a violent altercation when they could just as easily say their spouse alone acted violently. And very few people would honestly say they got shitty and slapped their old lady around out of fear that it wasn’t really anonymous.
I’m saying that to say this: cops are probably even more likely to be domestic abusers than that study says.
I can’t wait to hear Biden’s running-mate-of-color get out there and accuse Kanye West of not being authentically black, and of stealing voters legally the property of the Democratic Party.
Locking down because of fears hospitals will be over run strikes me as incongruent.
For the love of God. If you lock down then you lock down EVERYTHING.
How much can small business take? Abbott is a fool if he pushes this.
In my opinion? A first lockdown was somewhat justified for a short-period. A second one this fast? Incompetent and immoral.
Problem is, I’ve resigned myself to accepting it will happen here too.
You can sense they have their finger on the lockdown trigger. The power of Karen and media is just too much.
Yesterday there was a soccer tournament near my house. The the three fields and park was packed. Very little masks. I was happy but I also realize this is how we get spikes and subsequent panics which puts pressure on government.
This is why I don’t fully agree with the “we need to look reasonable” tack that some take on promoting liberty (2a comes to mind). When people are driven by fear, the side of liberty needs to show its teeth. Otherwise, liberty gets trampled with little more than a whiff of regret.
“but I also realize this is how we get spikes”
It’s also how we get herd immunity.
Government is afraid we will get herd immunity without bureaucracy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UHTcABH-Tc
That’s bad even by Teds’ standards.
The Bloomberg news readers are crowing exultantly about how President Cartoon Villain has caved on mask wear for his next political rally.
“All dressd up as historic figures.I just coverd myself in Stars&Stripes.Next year I’m going as Mt.Rushmore! #Murica
1:08 PM · Jul 4, 2015”
https://twitter.com/TammyforIL/status/617379521453498368
LOLOLOLOL
People were talking about Hamilton yesterday. I don’t like musicals in general, and I’ve never seen it, but I have listened to the music and liked it a lot. Impressive. My favorite is from ‘Washington on Your Side.” Here are some choice lyrics about (I think Adams and Jefferson) bitching about what to do with Hamilton (skipping around):
Every action has an equal opposite reaction
Thanks to Hamilton, our cabinet’s fractured into factions
Try not to crack under the stress, we’re breaking down like fractions
We smack each other in the press, and we don’t print retractions
…
So he’s doubled the size of the government
Wasn’t the trouble with much of our previous government size
Look in his eyes
See how he lies
Follow the scent of his enterprise
Centralizing national credit and making American credit competitive
If we don’t stop it, we aid and abed it!
I have to resign!
Somebody has to stand up for the South!
Well, somebody has to stand up to his mouth!
If there’s a fire you’re trying to douse
You can’t put it out from inside the house!
I’m in the cabinet, I am complicit and watching and grabbing the power and kiss it
If Washington isn’t gon’ listen to disciplined dissidents
This is the difference, this kid is out!
…
(Back to Evan talking:) That’s clever and well-written. The singing and cadence are lovely. I think having founding fathers hip-hopping is a novel way of expressing history. Miranda is an absolute bitch for not just telling people to go fuck themselves. “I made something new. You can like it or not. Not my problem. Open a history book and actually think.”
I stopped biting my tongue yesterday and ranted at my parents about how upset I am about being treated like a lab rat and a helpless child ALL THE TIME when I find it absolutely demeaning, insulting, and the opposite of what I want and need. There were many shouts, tears and my voice was gone, but they listened. Big hugs afterwards. It wasn’t the easiest thing to do but it needed to be done.
Uh, Miranda—your fame and money should make it easier for you to tell your rich audience to piss off than it was for me to open up to my family.
I also loved you in Curb Your Enthusiasm!
I take no issue with the hip-hop or the various racial incongruencies. I can’t speak to accuracy.
I do take issue with financially supporting an asshole like Miranda who supports an unrepentant mass-murdering commie like Oscar Lopez Rivera.
So my renewal for the spin studio happened, meaning I can now check the new seat layout. They went from 40 seats to about 20, and they’re now only seating 13 people for each class. There’s now rumblings to make a mask mandate over the county as a whole.
I remember thinking that this would all be over by Memorial day.
Heh, I remember thinking Easter would be about it – and that was more than the initial 2 weeks of “curve flattening”.
Neph,
As I posted in one of yesterday’s threads, the level of COVID hospitalizations in Ohio is equivalent to the low end of peak flu season (and probably on a downward slope). Nobody panicked during flu season, but now we’ve got cities passing mandatory mask laws.
Yep, the hospitals up here in Cleveland have announced they’re not expecting to make a profit this year. I’m looking to take a week of vacation this month and try to burn some rage off by biking for ~320 miles. Mostly trails, with some road riding in it. I’ve got the rough outline of the plan written up, just need to confirm hotels and places to stay at the planned stops.
Stanley Johnson: “I was very, very drunk.”
https://twitter.com/damocrat/status/1279453480223195136
Do they have combs in England?
The same quantity as competent dentists.
Happy Birthday Banjos!!
Happy birthday, banjos!
Our problem, as I have noted before, is prosperity, specifically, enough to eat. Prosperity is not a bad thing. Everybody wants enough to eat. However, it also leads to people having too much time on their hands with no interests except one: subjugate one’s fellow man to do what one wants them to do and not do. Those people have the money and time to try to make sure this happens.
And, as has been noted before, this is part of the cycle every civilization goes through. I just wish it hadn’t happened during my life.
/sad GenXer
How much would it take for the left to actually kill New York? There’s so much money and commerce/finance/history there that it seems near impossible. Still, looks like they are going to do their level best to make it happen.
Wall Street keeps NYC alive. Without the taxes that generates, the city will fail spectacularly.
So the question becomes when does the cost of maintaining that infrastructure in NYC outweigh the benefits? And with each passing year, the cost of moving that infrastructure lowers as telecom costs come down and speeds go up.
Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. Every social, political and economic cycles is moving at a much faster speed than they historically move.
This COVID work at home trend might be what finally lets Wall Street divorce NYC…..
eh inertia is a helluva thing given enough mass… NY is to attractive to to many people to be killed. May have a slow decline.
We’re nowhere near 70s level of suckitude during which 800,000 people hightailed it out of here – and even that didn’t kill us. But yes, today’s idiots are leading us down the *exact* same path as yesterday’s.
This made me sad:
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1279947228124254209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1279947228124254209%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsamj-3930%2F2020%2F07%2F06%2Fyou-killed-your-own-father-of-8-year-old-girl-killed-by-armed-mob-in-atlanta-takes-blacklivesmatter-apart-watch%2F
It’s a tragedy, and I imagine that the right will have no qualms climbing on that girls body to tut tut BLM.
I see you’re an avid climber.
I don’t know how he can speak. I’d be in a blind rage.
Probably already posted but here are the skies over LA on the fourth and it’s a big fuck you to the restrictions:
https://youtu.be/tIvdcdogC6k
The fireworks are so thick it almost looks photoshopped.
I think I saw John Wayne’s ghost standing atop the Hollywood sign, saluting for the entirety.
saluting
because that’s what veterans do?
Happy Birthday, Banjos!
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH MOBILE GAME ADS
https://twitter.com/WizardR10/status/1280004607213789184
Dunno looks ok to me
Just found out that Pie is 14.
Good links. Blood pressure rising. Mission accomplished.
Also, interesting mix of birthdays today.
Happy Birthday, Banjos.
Do you suffer from low blood pressure? Ask your doctor if Glibertarians is right for you.
Glibertarians is not for everyone, and should be used only at the direction of you doctor.
Side effects include:
Loss of friends
Loss of sleep
Bouts of anger
Irrational bemusement by rapesquatch jokes
Acute tinfoil affinity
Loss of productivity
Excessive inside joking
Talking in incoherent Acronyms
Increased use of “Fuck Off”
Excessive punnery
Narrowed vision
becoming tulpa,
And understanding government is a band of thieves.
LOL, FFS.
LOL.
But you forgot increased alcohol dependence.
Doesn’t apply to Mormons.
Replace with sugar.
Fuck off.
/lowers head. Calls doctor.
I’m a bit confused by the use of the present tense.
“Can’t wait to hear the QAnon take on this: Bubonic Plague has been diagnosed in China and in a province of Mongolia named…Khovd.”
https://twitter.com/nickschmidle/status/1280035372249108480
The aliens are getting lazy.
Morning Glibs! Hope all of you survived this weekend with minimal damage. I ran into this article which happened to coincide with a conversation I had with an ex-girlfriend (she is from China) related precisely to these parallels she sees to stories shared by her uncle who went through hell there for being an educated man. She told me that she was sure we were just a few months away from educators that don’t go along with the Marxist agitators getting killed (like they did in China by beating them to death with approval from the leaders of the cultural revolution he’ll bent on canceling the old culture) and that she was scared for our future. Considering she is mostly a left leaning person because that’s what happens to people on the east coast that don’t have a solid understanding of the rampant stupidity of the left leaning mob out there, I was quite surprised. Hopefully more people catch on that the people promoting, supporting, and paying for this shit either really want it o come to the killings, or think this will help them get rid of bad orange man at which point they will magically stop the out of control frenzied mob, and demand it stops.
With the Feds pumping and dumping all this cash, the economic pain hasn’t set in yet as bad as it will. Then we’ll really find out how apathetic people are to these revolutionaries that are demanding their money and submission.
Links to glibs.
Fucking iPads….
https://unherd.com/2020/07/americas-cultural-revolution-is-familiar-to-the-chinese/?
So, we’ve entered this phase of the revolution. I don’t even know what kind of church that is, but how you think that behavior is cool is beyond me.
https://twitter.com/realgbctroyny/status/1279151637915992065
I must be missing something. Why are these nice protestors behaving like this?
Damned cowards who have been enabled by the state.
They picked the wrong church to protest. Those guys have a reputation for being well-armed.
Which church is that?
Oh, I see it now.
These must be more of those “peaceful protestors” I keep hearing about.
What is it about this church that they dislike? Or is it random acts of peaceful protesting?
AR-15 giveaways and a general disregard for leftists. They’ve been described as an alt-right church, whatever that means.
Lissen up, cracker
By hesitating to talk with your Black friends about race because you’re worried about upsetting the ease of the relationship, you’re refusing the gift of growing through dialogue, said Jennifer Harvey, a professor of religion at Drake University in Iowa and author of “Raising White Kids: Bringing Up Children in a Racially Unjust America.”
You’re also asking Black people to carry a burden that is not their own — one of “White ignorance, complicity and silence in their lives,” Harvey said. “I talked in my book about racial scripts that we’re all living in this larger play that’s been written for us and we’ve been handed the role.”
“Authentic relationships can only be grown when we disrupt the script and find [justice-oriented] ways to move past those rules,” she said.
When you refuse to have a hard conversation about racial injustice, you’re telling your friends that you’re not interested in their experiences as human beings. And you’re also saying that you’re willing to accept racism and let it sit between you as if it’s not there.
Talking about race can be tough, especially in such emotionally charged times. But it’s important because diversity goes beyond the surface level that is skin color. And while friendships can allow for joy and celebration, deeper relationships require connecting with people during their hardest experiences.
Here are a few tips for having those conversations.
And don’t bother to pretend it’s a dialog, and not a lecture. Nod your head and genuflect.
I never ever get tired of tenured professors and published authors lecturing my working class white ass about my overflowing cup of privlege.
Got my 13 year old car running again, they fixed the AC for me for free when they put a new starter in. Fucking got them with my white privilege. Gonna treat myself at the grocery later to the good bread, maybe even really splurge and get the Boars Head lunch meat.
What if you’re only half white? Do you get to use your privilege card on odd-numbered days? Or is it a prorated amount or something?
When you refuse to have a hard conversation about racial injustice, you’re telling your friends that you’re not interested in their experiences as human beings.
Maybe I’m just telling my friends that I’m not interested in stupid conversations about dumb things like “race”. Maybe I’m sending them a signal that we should talk about fishing, our families, how the Vikes will screw up this year, etc.
This, of course, assumes the conclusion that discussing race with your friends is virtuous. It is not, for many reasons. It further implies that somehow black folks have a monopoly in racially tinged experience, which is laughably leftist.
I’m sad that Dr. Selekala was unavailable for comment.
White ignorance? Ignorance has a skin color now? You fucking racist!
Complicity in what? Oh, you just found a word with negative connotations and juxtaposed it with the word “white”, you fucking racist.
Silence? Oh yeah, these days silence is violence, you fucking totalitarian.
So, you’re a grifter using a national crisis to sell books. You fucking mercenary. Beyond that, you act to completely take away moral agency by framing this as some morality play, you paternalistic cunte.
Nothing says “not a racist” like probing black people’s social lives for authenticity.
Some would say that it means your relationship is built on things other than race, but those people aren’t racists like you, cunte.
Fuck off with your compelled speech, slaver!
Friendship is about sharing the struggle, comrade! Fuck off, you pinko race griefer!
That person is a better translator than I am. I don’t have those mind reading powers.
This article is from a couple years back but definitely worth a read when you have a bit of time. The woman who came up with the white privilege concept, Peggy McIntosh, is by no surprise at all in the top percentage of privilege by birth into a wealthy and connected East Coast family. This bullshit needs the shitcan of history.
https://quillette.com/2018/08/29/unpacking-peggy-mcintoshs-knapsack/
I remember that article. My favorite sentence:
I’ll just continue to go about my business treating the people I meet, of whatever color, with respect, as I would like them to treat me. No more, no less.
Even if you’re knowledgeable about racial issues, you might still have blind spots when it comes to understanding the experiences of and support needed by people of color, said Shadeen Francis, a licensed marriage and family therapist, professor and author who specializes in sex therapy and social justice.
She works for pornhub?
https://www.economist.com/asia/2020/07/04/america-is-rapidly-pulling-troops-from-afghanistan
20 years after toppling the Taliban regime, and 10 years after the killing of OBL, we are “rapidly” pulling troops out.
Is this why Bolton is so mad at Orange man? The bombings are gonna end, and the mustache will have none of that!
No wonder abortion is legal in the US. No one in government knows how to pull out.
I might just steal that.
Second.
Justices rule states can bind presidential electors’ votes
The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Monday that states can require presidential electors to back their states’ popular vote winner in the Electoral College.
The ruling, just under four months before the 2020 election, leaves in place laws in 32 states and the District of Columbia that bind electors to vote for the popular-vote winner, and electors almost always do so anyway.
I was hoping they would rule the other way.
32 states that have fucked their voters over.
This isn’t national popular vote, it’s state popular vote. In other words, a state can punish an elector for failing to vote as the state’s own population voted.
That having been said, I think the decision is wrong. If you want to do away with electors altogether and just have each state submit its division of votes to the Congress, that’s fine. But by having electors, you (should) accept some discretion on their part. If you want automata, don’t pick human beings.
If you want to do away with electors altogether and just have each state submit its division of votes to the Congress, that’s fine.
I don’t think the Constitution allows that.
But by having electors, you (should) accept some discretion on their part.
Article II doesn’t seem to require that, at least not explicitly.
I don’t think the Constitution allows that.
Well we are already amending the Constitution by judicial fiat, maybe we could try amending it by its own spelled out process of amendment for a change.
Article II doesn’t seem to require that, at least not explicitly.
It also doesn’t allow it, so who knows.
This is only going to make it funnier when Trump wins the popular vote count, but loses the electoral college. Of course, I would fully expect those states to decide that the EC was sacred and not to be fucked with in that case.
Now I’m curious.
https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1280151326912061440
I’ve been saying, the next time the Dems take power, they will rig every future election to ensure they never lose it again. National poplular vote for President puts the Presidency pretty much out of reach for Repubs, barring a massive pro-Repub landslide. Mandatory mail in voting ensures there will be no such landslide, and locks Repubs out of many Congressional, state, and local seats.
The game plan is already set and beta-tested. SCOTUS just gave it the green light.
What am I missing? Doesn’t this allow states to prevent national popular vote compacts?
I’ll have to read the opinion, but on the summary I don’t see how it would prevent it, and may pave the way for it.
I disagree. National popular vote laws deny the voters within the State their choice, substituting that of voters outside the State. The reasoning here would be tortured if it were extended to a National Popular vote law. Not that the SC is above tortured reasoning, but I think you guys are borrowing dismay you do not need to borrow. There is a clear difference between allowing punishment for faithless electors and requiring the appointment of electors against the voter’s choice.
I’d only take NPV with a majority requirement. If no candidate gets more than 50% of the “national popular vote” (i.e. naive summation of the state popular vote totals), we should use the existing methodology. This has the important consequence that no modern election would have ended any differently.
Popular vote winner of the specific State. The issue with the national popular vote laws is different.
The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Monday that states can require presidential electors to back their states’ popular vote winner in the Electoral College.
Muh CONSCIENCE!
9-0 decision, although Thomas didnt join the main opinion, but wrote his own.
Thomas says it is a 10th amendment argument.
Good. Enough of that “national popular vote” bullshit.
This kinda helps the national popular vote thing.
If it allows a state to forbid electors from simply throwing their votes to whoever got the most votes nationwide regardless of the vote total in that particular state?
It allows states to forbid that, it also allows state to enforce that.
This doesn’t stop that.
Hmm. Not sure if the ruling would allow states to bind their electors to a national popular vote. Probably doesn’t address it directly, but binding electors to vote for a given candidate as directed by state law sure seems like it would.
https://www.wfmz.com/news/justices-rule-states-can-bind-presidential-electors-votes/article_ec745a8d-203c-5b24-ac90-ef78d30d6faa.html
Just imagine if VA decides that they are giving their vote to the national popular vote winner, no matter who wins the state and then Trump wins the popular vote even though Biden wins the state of VA. Hilarity would ensue ‘Oh wait, we were just kidding! It was a joke, everyone knows it!’.
O, happy day, Banjos!
Mornin’, glibertariat.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BANJOS!
Also, this my favorite arrangement of Shadrach – https://youtu.be/Tu4kMDh4W_4
Also worth linking, unless this is a circular thing where you were posting that in response to someone already posting this in a previous thread/post, in which case it is still worth linking.
From Heeb-bop to Heeb-hop.
That was a good F1 race yesterday. I always record them so I skipped over the pre race race bullshit. I was glad to see later that two of my favorite drivers, Verstappen and LeClerc didn’t submit to the kneeling theatre. Fucking Hamilton is a great driver but I can’t stand him. Yet again he screwed over Albon from getting a podium.
If F1 needs more diversity then the NBA certainly does as well.
Oh and happy birthday Banjos. Hope you are having a good one.
The NBA could use more height diversity.
Hear, hear! DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH RIGHT NBA?
The NBA could use more diversity of thought as well. At least this one guy gets it. He’s not becoming more popular by spreading that message (outside of here of course).
https://fee.org/articles/nba-player-stuns-with-controversial-social-justice-statement-on-economics/
I still can’t get over the fact that the “social justice message” players can put on their jerseys in lieu of their last names has to come from an approved list. What a joke.
That’s hilarious. Here is your personal massage that we picked out for you. I stopped caring about the NBA after the China thing from last year (remember last year!).
“Yet again he screwed over Albon from getting a podium”
And blew it off. I i believe his post-race comment referred to it as a “racing incident.”
A racing incident that also, thankfully, got him off the podium.
Actually, thinking about it I didn’t have to skip the pre race kneeling bullshit as F1, for all their commitment to diversity crap, didn’t include it in the race broadcast. You had to turn into the pre race coverage to get that, which was luckily a separate show.
It’s cute that you think that diversity means anything other than “fewer straight white people”.
Robo-calling case is all over the place. Looks like a 9-0 decision with 2 dissents in part, but just about everyone writing on their own.
Okay, I am wrong on the 9-0 part. It is a weird beakdown, maybe 6-3 on main decision, but then those 3 agree on severability with the majority, but other disagree on severability.
So, there is a law against robo-calling, but an exception was made for government debt collection. This was challenged on 1st amendment grounds. Ultimate decision is that the debt collection exception is thrown out, but it is severable, so law survives.
KAVANAUGH, J., announced the judgment of the Court and delivered
an opinion, in which ROBERTS, C. J., and ALITO, J., joined, and in which
THOMAS, J., joined as to Parts I and II. SOTOMAYOR, J., filed an opinion
concurring in the judgment. BREYER, J., filed an opinion concurring in
the judgment with respect to severability and dissenting in part, in
which GINSBURG and KAGAN, JJ., joined. GORSUCH, J., filed an opinion
concurring in the judgment in part and dissenting in part, in which
THOMAS, J., joined as to Part II.
This kinda helps the national popular vote thing.
Maybe I’m misreading this (did not read it at all, in fact), but doesn’t that ruling mean electors must follow the wishes of the voters in their own state (and the law), and not just vote based on their personal preference?
No, it means that states have the right to fine faithless electors or replace them. Which gives the state more power to do what they please with electors, including having it based on national vote instead of state-wide vote (although that issue wasn’t discussed in this case).
I think it probably avoids the question of what counts as a faithless elector. Is it one who refuses to follow the state’s vote, or one that refuses to vote as required by state law? If the latter, it paves the way for the national popular vote compact.
Haven’t read the opinion yet, though.
but doesn’t that ruling mean electors must follow the wishes of the voters in their own state (and the law)
The question, I think, is what happens when state law says they must vote for the national popular vote winner, even if the other candidate won their state.
My recollection is that the national popular vote compact requires two-thirds of the states to adopt it before it goes into effect, so right now its not in effect. However, that can easily be remedied by a state legislature and governor determined to put it into effect now.
It requires states with a combined total of 270 electoral votes to enact it. The minimum number of states to reach that threshold under current apportionment is 11 (CA, TX, FL, NY, IL, PA, OH, GA, MI, NC, NJ).
Watched Hamilton. I’ve been very contrarian about it due to its immense popularity but had not seen it. Was prepared not to like it, but damn, it’s good and full of talented people. I was amazed at the totality of the work — how much went into it. It’s a colossus of music and lyric. I quibble with the Jefferson portrayal, but Daveed Diggs basically steals the show. The only other real dislike was the constant use of the word ‘immigrant’ to describe Hamilton. It’s overused and unsubtle.
I saw the first half but will finish it
Two chicks on there can wail; I’m shocked by the meager voice skills of several of the leading male characters.
I’m not a hip hop guy, but the flow strikes me as wrong: too smooth, ignoring the beat. If you’re going to rap, hit the meter.
Choreography and direction so far are quite lame: just standing and spinning with no purpose. At least with Barefoot in the Park someone occasionally clutches their pearls or dramatically exits stage right; if there are great Shark and Jets danceoffs, I haven’t gotten to those parts.
The pieces are thoughtful; I remain intrigued by the themes and execution.
The question, I think, is what happens when state law says they must vote for the national popular vote winner, even if the other candidate won their state.
it sounds as if the SC ruled that the electors must follow the rules as written. Not controversial.
I don’t see how a law requiring the electors to ignore the results of an election in their own state in favor of the vote elsewhere (California, koff koff) could withstand a challenge, but do I know?
That’s the issue, though: what if the rules as written require that the electors follow the national popular vote?
Article II says:
It doesn’t appear to put any limits on the state legislature’s authority to direct the appointment of electors who will vote for the national popular vote winner. Nothing else in Article II jumps out as requiring that they vote for the state’s popular vote winner. Arguments that the Constitution prohibits a state from requiring its electors vote for the national popular vote winner seem to rest on implication, not explicit text, but I would have to review them again.
The electors don’t exist as super voters, they exist as representatives of the State, and not the State Government, the citizens of the State. The difference between binding them to vote as the citizens of the State voted and binding them to a different course of action seems clear, To take the contra position to its absurd extension imagine that a State with a Democrat state legislature and Governor passed a law requiring the electors to vote for the Democrat nominee. The argument against national popular vote seems to be the same as the argument in favor of punishing faithless electors. ie. to ensure that the electors vote as the State voted.
The Constitution explicitly says the electors exist as representatives of the state legislature. It only seems incongruous today because of the passage of the 17th Amendment and Supreme Court excesses like Reynolds v. Sims.
The original intent was to form a confederation of sovereign states, not a grouping of devolved provinces. That the President is more-or-less popularly elected today was not how things always were. The Founders wanted to allow the states to decide how they would choose their electors.
What you call “absurd” I think was entirely anticipated. The state legislatures were meant to play a bigger role in governance than they have ended up having.
Using the central bank to buy off the states’ compliance was not anticipated.
The states fall over themselves to give away their sovereignty these days.
True. I don’t think you could “turn back the clock” on any of these things in isolation and just magically end up in a better place. There’s too many interconnected and interdependent pieces nowadays.
As of 1832, South Carolina was still choosing their electors in the state House instead of by a vote of the people.
The difference between binding them to vote as the citizens of the State voted and binding them to a different course of action seems clear
True, but is it a difference prohibited by the Constitution?
I continue to be puzzled about why Rose City Antifa, the mother house for the antifa rioters, which has demonstrably violated numerous state and federal laws is, as far as I know, walking around free as a bird.
Note the paltry number of arrests referred to in this article. Its possible some of the rioters were Rose City members, but I would expect the entire organization could be rolled up any time somebody in law enforcement cared to do so. Why haven’t they?
Because Antifa doesn’t exist. Don’t trust your lying eyes.
Why haven’t they?
Who would prosecute them, and what jury would convict them?
Who would prosecute them
The feds.
and what jury would convict them?
Depending on how they set it up, I think the feds have a lot of discretion in where to bring them to trial.
Everything you have here is key. Facing a decade in the federal clink with an unsympathetic red state jury would cause the soyboy leadership of these groups to start singing like a lark. You could follow it all the way to the top; it would be child’s play in comparison to going after the Mafia.
It’s all contingent on having the will to actually do it though.
The feds means it can be blamed and used against Trump while the local D establishment washes their hands of their connivance to perpetuate this violence.
That aside, I do believe that the feds are laying the groundwork to at least get the ones doing the acts, even if the *dons tin foil* ones behind it are left alone. In the 90’s there were numerous acts of ecoterrorism in the state and region. The feds moved apparently slowly and rolled up pretty much the entire lot of them, including ones who had drifted away.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Backfire_(FBI)
The feds means it can be blamed and used against Trump while the local D establishment washes their hands of their connivance to perpetuate this violence.
Or, Trump gets credit for rolling up the main instigator of the riots, and the local Dems look like fools for allowing it to happen.
Of course, the media will try to spin it the way you describe, but I think “arresting and trying the people behind the riots” will be hard to blame on Trump.
I think it comes down to how deep the rot is at DOJ. How many fellow travellers are embedded in DOJ? I suspect the number is not small.
I should clarify that by blame, I mean the local establishment can avoid the consequences of acting against the rioters while sitting on the sidelines tut tutting. And if anything goes wrong (which it probably will), then the feds can own that as well.
I’m not sure it will help (or hurt) Trump. His supporters expect that he’d clamp down on the rioters and his opponents will oppose anything he does regardless of cognitive dissonance.
I’m not puzzled
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/07/gov-kate-brown-urges-portland-police-to-de-escalate-protests-to-avoid-senseless-cycle-of-violence.html
??♂️
It’s a mystery.
“Atlanta’s mayor has had enough. We’ll see how she’s received by the media now.”
They should have claimed to be protesting and wearing BLM gear when they shot the little girl. Then they would be hailed as heroes and Trump would be blamed instead. Dummies, if you want to commit any amount of crime and be rewarded for it, you have to be protesting.
“Frederick Douglass statue vandalized in Rochester park”
Well, he’s sort of a part of this toxic Western civilization thing, so he has to go.
“Are Protests Unsafe? What Experts Say May Depend on Who’s Protesting What
Public health experts decried the anti-lockdown protests last spring as dangerous gatherings in a pandemic. Health experts seem less comfortable doing so now that the marches are against racism.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/us/Epidemiologists-coronavirus-protests-quarantine.html
Science.
Hypocrisy so blatant that even the NY Times notices.
Whoever penned that will be groveling and apologizing by tomorrow and begging forgiveness for their unwokeness. Then they’ll be attacked by the mob and cancelled with the blessing of the NYT, article removed.
“Analysis: Coronavirus will undermine trust in government,”
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1279894932002607109
Good.
Shorter comments: ITZ DRUMPFZ FALT!!!
Why is government responsible for a virus? They didn’t create it, they didn’t release it, they don’t control it.
WaPo gets *this close*. It’s not the virus that is wrecking people’s trust, it’s the government and media’s response to the virus.
Of course that would require self-reflection which would cause their editors to burst into flames.
<em.Nothing else in Article II jumps out as requiring that they vote for the state’s popular vote winner. Arguments that the Constitution prohibits a state from requiring its electors vote for the national popular vote winner seem to rest on implication, not explicit text, but I would have to review them again.
I’m not really qualified, since I try to think about things rationally, but the idea of a state intentionally surrendering its sovereign self interest, not merely to the national government but to an assortment of other states, seems preposterous. A state might just as well pass a law disbanding their own legislature and executive in favor of direct rule by Washington. I cannot believe it would not be vigorously opposed.
On a quick read, the Court never addresses the national popular vote. There are numerous references to current law requiring electors to be appointed to implement the state’s popular vote (and some interesting history along the way), with the decision basically being that states have the authority to enforce this law by fines or removal of faithless electors.
But the references to electors being required to vote for their state’s popular vote winner all seem to be tied to state law requiring that. No surprise, as there is no currently effective state law requiring anything else (two states requiring electors to vote for the popular vote winner by Congressional district aside).
I think its an open issue whether the NPV compact will survive scrutiny. Of interest will be the timing – when will a challenge to it be taken up by the Court, and will it resolve it before a Presidential election where it will make a difference? If the challenge straddles an election, we will have a genuine Constitutional crisis on our hands, with the Court being in the uncomfortable position of determining who will be President.
As a thought experiment, what if I were to propose state laws in republican-controlled States that all electors shall vote for the Republican nominee.
Regardless of what they say, this is the intent of these laws. They believe they can rack up big leads in New York and California and carry the popular vote.
They know that they have Superior get-out-the-vote Machinery in large cities which are heavily democrat-controlled. So they know that for much less effort and much less money they can always win the national popular vote.
So imagine that states like Ohio and North Carolina attempt to lock in their present Republican majority. Obviously nobody would take this seriously.
So why should anybody take this movement towards National popular vote seriously. The only reason for this is because they know they have the advantage in urban areas where it is much less costly to collect extra votes.
I wouldn’t count on that fucker Abbott resisting calls to lockdown, after the statewide mask mandate. Just walked out of a Home Depot after some employee yelled at me to put on a mask. Fuck ’em, now I remember why I shop at Lowe’s.
Retailers don’t have a choice where I live. And therefore, neither do I.
If China were really smart, they’d just invade the USA right now. Our media will be screaming that we cannot fight back because racism and then they can just walk right in and take over.
Happy Birthday Banjos!
Leaders in two of Texas’ biggest cities are calling on the governor to empower local governments to order residents to stay home as the state’s continued surge in coronavirus cases tests hospital capacity.
Austin Mayor Steve Adler told CNN’s “State of the Union” Sunday that he wants Gov. Gregg Abbott, a Republican, to return control of his city to the local government as its hospitals face a potential crisis.
“If we don’t change the trajectory, then I am within two weeks of having our hospitals overrun,” Adler, a Democrat, said. “And in our ICUs, I could be 10 days away from that.”
Abbot will cave. Like grizzly said the other day, who needs Democrats when you have Republicans?
Black Lives Matter is not about any political stance. By taking a knee, you do not choose to support a side in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine. By taking a knee, you do not back calls to defund police. By taking a knee, you are not displaying a gesture that should be deemed “controversial in some countries”. And by taking a knee, you are not demonstrating a symbol of subjugation and subordination.
Horseshit. You’re supporting a bunch of Marxist grifters as they wage a new Cultural Revolution.
This must be the new line now, because I’m hearing all about hospital capacity from the usual corporate media outlets (and all their devoted followers).
I just keep hearing “oh my god, that state is at 80% ICU occupancy!!” And what was it before?? Do they think that ICUs are just sitting completely empty during normal times? And what percentage of the ICU patients are COVID patients?
Also, if any place truly was running out of ICU beds, that would be an excellent moment to discuss repealing Certificate of Need laws. But nobody mentions that (hell, most people don’t even know that they exist).
If China were really smart, they’d just invade the USA right now. Our media will be screaming that we cannot fight back because racism and then they can just walk right in and take over.
Based on the “popular” response to the goddam plague, CNN, the NYT and WaPo would be running editorials pleading with Trump to surrender pre-emptively.
“Freedom” is not worth the cost!
That’s exactly right. Obama probably already has a deal with Xi to be America’s Chairman for life. Just imagine how dreamy everything will be in our new utopia. Of course everyone here will be in camps. But maybe if we grub roots hard enough for dear leader, they’ll let us have Glib camp meetups.
Glib camp meetups
Well, one, anyway.
By the mass graves.