Wednesday Morning Links

by | Jul 15, 2020 | Daily Links | 425 comments

Chelski beat up league punching bad Norwich. Liverpool-Arsenal on tap today!

Meaningless for the champions, aside from record-chasing.

Dutch painter Rembrandt was born on this day. He shears it with Limey suffragette Emmeline Pankhurst, astrophysicist Jocelyn Bell Burnell, singer/actress Linda Ronstadt, prog rock icon Peter Banks, rassler/governor Jesse “The Body” Ventura, supermodel Kim Alexis, and actor Forrest Whitaker.

Alexis

OK then, on to…the links!

Oh, boo-hoo. What, you don’t like politicians going after you for making a decision based on politics?  Then quit, asshole.

A fucking imbecile.

Oh, boo-hoo. This was delightful to see happen. Unless you’re a Texas Tech fan.

We’ve seen this before. And it typically wouldn’t be news. But as crazy as 2020’s been, she might finally kick it and make the election even more insane.

What kind of sick, twisted, sadistic fuck…would dare state facts like this? Doesn’t he know there’s a narrative that’s more important than the truth?

This was gonna happen one way or another. Now they need to get him checked into a loony bin.

That was a short-lived grift.

Shit, this didn’t last long. I don’t feel like it was milked for all it was worth, but them’s the breaks.

How the ever-loving fuck is this constitutional? Answer: it’s not, but nobody cares as much about rights as they do (the appearance of protecting) life.

This probably makes sense. Not a fan of bail-denial, but to be honest, this lady is a huge flight risk and she wouldn’t be safe if she were released.

I’d go…but then I’d have to drive to Pasadena. Not that Pasadena, the Texas Pasadena.

Grrrrrrl Power! Enjoy!

Now get out there and have a great day, dear friends!

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425 Comments

  1. Fred, Your new Cylon Buddy

    First, because Broccetta

    • juris imprudent

      Bro’s chet award really is more of a number 2 kinda guy anyway.

      • Not Adahn

        People give him shit, but I’d bet broccoli and pancetta on bruschetta would be really tasty.

      • UnCivilServant

        bruschetta isn’t that great a bread product, if you have a choice, pick something else.

      • Festus' Mustache

        White Wonder Bread for the win!

      • Festus' Mustache

        Non-joking. Wonder Bread and Kraft slices grilled is one of my favorite comfort foods.

      • Not Adahn

        You’re right. Broccoli and pancettea en brochette would be better.

  2. UnCivilServant

    Unless you’re a Texas Tech fan.

    What does texas tech have to do with Jeff Sessions?

    • blighted_non_millenial

      His opponent was a sportsball coach.

    • sloopyinca

      Tuberville, man. Tuberville.

      • robc

        I had forgotten TT coached at TT. Aubrun, Ole Miss, Cincinnati, those I remember.

      • sloopyinca

        I think people from those schools fondly remember. The Tech fans I know certainly do not.

      • robc

        Which is probably why, as an outsider to all of them, I remember the other 3.

      • UnCivilServant

        I only know the name from the senate race.

      • Festus' Mustache

        I’m just glad that Sessions is done. Now he can retire to his palatial estate and shoot various rodents from the comfort of his porch swing. “There can only be ONE!”

      • Jarflax

        Gnomes live in caves, do caves have porches?

      • Fribblemeister

        Tuberville lost to Vanderbilt. If I’m an Alabamian, no way I’m voting for that guy.

  3. Rebel Scum

    No need to be angry. Just open the page and read…the links!

    That could damage my calm.

    • Festus' Mustache

      “Still 2020…” *cuts off another digit with tin snips*

      • Festus' Mustache

        I larfed.

  4. Don Escaped both Landslides

    Pasadena

    I’ve still got a Gilley’s tee shirt around here somewhere

    • C. Anacreon

      Gilley, and the Spiders from Mars?

      • Grosspatzer

        Weird.

  5. Sean

    Great music!

  6. Rebel Scum

    St. Louis prosecutor investigating couple who brandished guns at protesters says governor and Trump are targeting her

    He made a passing comment about the situation, lending moral support to the couple, in a Townhall interview…

    • Nephilium

      So it’s confirmed? We can impeach Trump for obstruction of justice now, right?

    • straffinrun

      Can’t imagine it’s possible to get a fair trail today with a case that is even remotely connected to politics these days. You know how the prosecutor and judge will handle things solely based on party affiliation.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Hawaiian Justices are famously fair and level headed. They even like pineapple on pizza! (I like it too!)

      • AlexinCT

        It’s not about a fair or any other kind of trial. The punishment is in the financial burden causes by making you deal with the broken and corrupt legal system. I am sure these rich lawyers can afford to fight them for a while, but in the end the state has unlimited resources while us common people don’t, and that’s what people like the asshole behind this counts on.

        Modern marxists/fascists no longer send you to death or reeducation camps: they now destroy you financially and/or prevent you from earning a living. That’s the new way to punish those that dare object to their takeover of power.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    She kinda looks like a pile of dirty laundry, too

    President Donald Trump’s niece has one word of advice for her uncle: “Resign.”

    Mary Trump issued the direct call to her uncle during an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that aired Tuesday, her first time speaking out about her new tell-all book.

    “If you’re in the Oval Office today, what would you say to him?” Stephanopoulos asked Trump.

    “Resign,” she replied.

    ——-

    When asked by Stephanopoulos what is the single most important thing the country needs to know about her uncle, Trump didn’t mince words.

    “He’s utterly incapable of leading this country — and it’s dangerous to allow him to do so,” she said.

    The snippet of Mary Trump’s interview, which aired Tuesday night on “World News Tonight with David Muir,” came after a New York Supreme Court judge ruled Monday that the president’s niece was free to discuss her book after being blocked by a temporary restraining order. Robert Trump, the president’s brother, argued that the whole premise of the book violated a confidentiality agreement signed in 2001 to settle a family lawsuit.

    Game over, man. We now have irrefutable testimony.

    • sloopyinca

      Man, the mainstream media wouldn’t even give an interview to Obama’s brother yet they’re rolling out the red carpet for a disgruntled niece? And the nonpartisan (oops, I mean former Dem presidential press secretary) George Snufalufagus no doubt!

      • Festus' Mustache

        I don’t normally go that low but that chick is pissed because she missed the money train that allows ugly people like Trump to grab themselves some pussy. Weren’t we just talking about the 10th Commandment yesterday?

    • Chipwooder

      Why would anyone give a shit about Trump’s niece? Oh, right, OMB.

    • Rebel Scum

      “Who? Oh, my niece. She’s always been such a loser.”

    • Fribblemeister

      I refuse to believe that the pillar of morality that is Donald Trump could have said or done anything that Mary Trump alleges. He is simply too virtuous.

  8. Rebel Scum

    Jeff Sessions loses Republican Senate primary bid to Tommy Tuberville

    Idk anything about this guy, but I know I dislike Sessions.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      He’s got my vote, because Tuberville is hilarious.

    • Not Adahn

      Idk anything about this guy, but I know I dislike Sessions.

      incumbents

      politicians

      …aw,, fuck it.

    • Ted S.

      I’m sure he has the vote of Count Potato.

      • bacon-magic

        He has his eyes on him.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’ll bet Sessions goes and gets baked now.

      • Bobarian LMD

        He no longer has any skin in the game.

  9. Nephilium

    Freedom of movement isn’t in your precious Constitution, therefore it’s a privilege granted by our great benefactor Government.

    /notes that Ohio has been added to the New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut self-quarantine list.

    The girlfriend’s aunt is upset that the girlfriend and I are taking a vacation (it’s a fucking weekend to Put-In-Bay, where testing the entire island found 66 cases this past weekend). She’s convinced we’re taking too big of a risk, and has said that when the girlfriend comes to visit her (in NOVEMBER) that the girlfriend will need to find a hotel rather then stay with her.

    I guess this means a smaller turnout for Thanksgiving this year.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I notice Nick Cannon and Viacom are decrying the anti-Semitic portions of his interview, but there doesn’t seem to be any backtracking on the shit he said about whites in general.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I blame Gilmore.

      • Drake

        I blame Mariah Carey.

      • Festus' Mustache

        I blame early-era Mariah on mute for about a billion things…

      • Rebel Scum

        For your inopportune boner?

    • Swiss Servator

      SOMEWHERE WIFE JUST PERKED UP – KNOW HOW MAKE THANKSGIVING HOSTING GO AWAY!

      • Nephilium

        Well the niece and her boyfriend just moved to CA, and will be coming back for Christmas. So I’m on the hook to ship them at least some desserts. My family other then that is in full DGAF mode. Even my parents, who are both in the high risk groups. My sister and brother-in-law hosted a going away cookout for my niece, and the only people there social distancing were the BIL’s family.

        On the plus side, it looks like I won’t need a full turkey this year. I’m thinking of trying the Alton Brown turketta recipe.

      • Festus' Mustache

        (((Get Smart))) and do all the Goyim Holidays in a Chinese restaurant. Just be sure to identify your foreskin as Jewish first. Heck, I don’t participate in any of that nonsense.

      • Nephilium

        The girlfriend’s (((family))) wanted to go out to eat one Christmas, to a Chinese restaurant, in a neighborhood known for it’s large (((population))). Never. Again.

      • Festus' Mustache

        You just had to bring up ponies, didn’t you?

      • Jarflax

        I don’t think SMITHS have much trouble with unwanted guests. The have an instinct for driving them away. and yes, that is exactly what I mean by driving them away.

    • The Last American Hero

      Ah Put Out Bay. Every year there would be all kinds of people having sex there while trying not to get bit by snakes.

      Find memories.

  10. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloopy!

    And a happy birthday to The Body, far and away the best MN governor in my lifetime.

    From the bar article:

    It was a shocking scene on Sunday at Chuters Dance Hall & Saloon in Pasadena; a dance floor full of patrons – many not wearing masks – danced to a live band as the alcohol flowed, breaking several COVID-19 state health protocols.

    The only thing shocking was the fucking line dancing. Businesses are now starting to drop like flies. Q4 is shaping up to be a real shitstorm. I expect (hope?) to see more of this fuck you attitude as the summer goes along. As you say, none of this is constitutional and can’t last much longer.

    But I’ve been wrong before.

    One thing I’m not wrong about is how fucking awesome Blondie is. I no longer wear suits but if forced it will be skinny ties for me.

    Have a great day, people!

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      The only thing shocking was the fucking line dancing.

      I’m with you on that one.

    • mrfamous

      When did it become so commonplace to drop all sense of neutrality in straight “news” articles? I mean they’ve always been slanted, but not like this. Opinion pages are what they are, but lately it’s just straight Pravda style one-sided POV news everywhere you turn.

      I suppose ultimately that would be fine, but stop pretending like you’re a “news source” instead of a paper with a stated agenda.

      • Festus' Mustache

        “Welcome to Canada! We’ll have to detain dat dirty wrong t’ink ‘ere at da Border, dough… You goes about yer bidness, now. Be nize!”

  11. Rebel Scum

    A Pasadena bar openly defied Gov. Greg Abbott’s order for all bars to remain closed due to skyrocketing COVID-19 cases by hosting a “Texas Bars Fight Back Rally” this weekend.

    Good.

    • banginglc1

      Like I mentioned the other day. Our county now has a mask order. I went to a bar last night. People would walk in with a mask, sit down and take it off and leave it off the rest of the night. The bartender told me that everyone needs a drink in front of them at all times, because you’re allowed to have it off when “eating or drinking.” The whole thing is the biggest joke. The people who care are staying home anyways.

      • EvilSheldon

        As it should be.

      • Not Adahn

        How far away d you live from Saratoga Springs again? There is an IDPA Master who always runs away with everything and it would be nice to see him have to make an effort.

        The typical competition pool is terrible here. I’m IDPA sharpshooter/USPSA Class C and I’m never in the bottom half, usually the top third to quarter.

  12. straffinrun

    New York and New Jersey are also asking visitors from several states from the Carolinas to California to quarantine themselves for two weeks.

    That’s more than “several states” unless you count flyover country as one state.

  13. Not Adahn

    Shit, this didn’t last long.

    Bipolars have mood swings.

    • straffinrun

      Perfect fit for the country then, eh?

      • Not Adahn

        Only if they can sync their cycles, otherwise things would be really bad.

      • AlexinCT

        Never trust anything that bleeds for 5 days out of the month but won’t die….

  14. robc

    Was Tuberville coaching Auburn for the “Baby I’m Burnin” game vs MSU?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL-mNqDeJpM

    Miss St nearly won it 4-3 but Auburn escaped from the 2nd safety.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    Corey Booker and Elizabeth Warren are going to fix farming

    The agricultural industry has an unusual structure: Virtually every node in the industry is highly concentrated around a few megaproducers. That’s true for seeds, for pesticides, for machines, for production. And concentration has been increasing, and fast. In 1980, 34 percent of pigs were slaughtered by the four largest meatpacking companies. By 2015, that had nearly doubled, to 66 percent.

    But the food is still grown, and the animals still raised, on family farms. These farms are, in theory, independent, but in practice, they bear the risks of independence without the expected freedoms. The megaproducers they buy from and sell to have all the leverage; farmers are left with little choice save to accept the onerous, binding contracts they’re offered. As the Center for American Progress puts it, “growing corporate power has left relatively small farms and ranches vulnerable to exploitation at the hands of the oligopolies with which they do business.”

    ——-

    In December of 2019, while campaigning in Iowa, Booker unveiled the Farm System Reform Act. It’s sweeping legislation, but at its core it does four things:

    Imposes an immediate moratorium on the construction of new CAFOs and phases out the largest existing CAFOs by 2040
    Imposes the liabilities and costs of pollutions, accidents, and disasters on the agricultural conglomerates that control the market rather than on the independent farmers who contract with them
    Creates a $100 billion fund to help farmers who are currently running CAFOs transition to other agricultural operations
    Strengthens the existing Packers and Stockyards Act to prohibit a range of contract terms and structures that let huge meat buyers put farmers in a race for the bottom while denying them political and legal recourse

    ——-

    The question is what Americans really want, and how easy it will be for them to get it. There is a deep ambivalence in our relationship to the food that ends up on our plates: We want food from small farms, where workers and animals are treated well, where the land is respected, and we want it all to be incredibly cheap and absurdly plentiful.

    The average American consumed 222 pounds of red meat and poultry in 2018, according to the USDA. Right now, big agribusiness producers try to ease consumer consciences through misdirection: Their packaging and advertising emphasize small farms, their ag-gag laws and contract provisions choke off the flow of actual information, the massive scale and mechanization of their processes hold down prices, and their political contributions repel real oversight.

    “The tilt in America in the last 30 years of policy has been toward consumerism,” Khanna says. “We will do everything possible to lower prices. We won’t care about jobs, real wages, or the environment. My argument is that we ought to care enough about farmers [having] a decent livelihood, about environmental consequences, about consequences to communities, so even if this means there’s a slight increase in the price of meat, that’s worth it.”

    Blah blah blah evil capitalists have wrecked farming.

    To be honest, there is undoubtedly a lot wrong with “industrial” farming, and consolidation hasn’t helped. But I have zero confidence in the qualifications or ability of Warren and Booker to design a better system.

    • Not Adahn

      And concentration has been increasing, and fast. In 1980, 34 percent of pigs were slaughtered by the four largest meatpacking companies. By 2015, that had nearly doubled, to 66 percent.

      Now do online advertising. Or video hosting. Or…

    • mrfamous

      Warren and Booker will be co-sponsoring the Lysenko Act…

    • sloopyinca

      Those stupid fucks. Maybe if property taxes weren’t so confiscatory and death taxes so ridiculous, this wouldn’t be happening.

      Nah, it must be capitalism’s fault.

      Assholes.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That too.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      The fundamental problems are the artificially low interest rates and to a somewhat lesser extent, over-regulation. Same as it is in every industry.

      When Wall Street can borrow money at super low rates with abandon, it incentivizes consolidation and artificially inflates the paper worth of the billionaire class while fucking over the small savers and asset holders like farmers.

      • sloopyinca

        Low rates…plus high property and death taxes. But mostly the taxes.

      • sloopyinca

        Sweet fucking Jesus, did they ever tie themselves in knots in the analysis portion of that fact check.

    • Tundra

      Maybe try Massie’s PRIME act, fuckos.

    • robc

      We want food from small farms, where workers and animals are treated well, where the land is respected, and we want it all to be incredibly cheap and absurdly plentiful.

      You know what solves that contradiction? The free market.

      Just like with any good/fast/cheap quandry.

    • sloopyinca

      We want food from small farms, where workers and animals are treated well, where the land is respected, and we want it all to be incredibly cheap and absurdly plentiful.

      Then you want less food and more starvation, you stupid asshole.

    • juris imprudent

      We want food

      What you want doesn’t mean shit, not to me, not to anyone else and certainly not to the cold, heartless universe.

    • banginglc1

      My Mother worked for one of those evil seed supply companies (not Monsanto, the other big one). It was insane how much regulation there is over seeds. Never underestimate how much compliance costs and bureaucracy has forced out the family farmer. Consolidation has a lot to do with these regulatory costs.

      • juris imprudent

        Grr, don’t get me started on the patented seed business and the ability to sue for “IP infringement” when said seeds spread naturally.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Their idea of farming is akin to what Chaz tried. Be better, dumbass.

    • Rebel Scum

      Sounds like they want to make food more expensive.

    • Jarflax

      So the word consumerism apparently means:

      Having a wide spectrum of affordable food choices, with high quality and reliable supply.

      and the speaker regards that as bad.

      and some cake chasing retard believes this person deserves an audience?

      • leon

        Fuckin Cake Chasers.

    • Homple

      It would not surprise me that somewhere in that bill is a clause “encouraging” small farms to form collectives, thus increasing their efficiency and bargaining power.

    • AlexinCT

      I thought the Antifa crowd had already done that back in CHAZ/CHOP or whatever their little Seattle state experiment? You just drop some top soil on the ground/grass, then stick in some plants and watch burritos or pizza bloom or something…

  16. The Late P Brooks

    It was a shocking scene on Sunday at Chuters Dance Hall & Saloon in Pasadena; a dance floor full of patrons – many not wearing masks – danced to a live band as the alcohol flowed, breaking several COVID-19 state health protocols.

    “I believe everyone has the right to work for a living, and I believe they have a right to be open like any other business,” patron Kristina Reff told the Houston Chronicle.

    Nazis! Murderers!

    I expect a lot more of this, this time around. I hope so, anyway.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Footloose, foot loose! Kick off your Sunday shoes!

  17. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: Needs More Fist Bumps and Spitting

    5 Ways to Still Feel Like a Man When You Have Your Period

    1. Pretend You’ve Been Wounded
    2. Take Pain Meds (Or Other Relief Factors) If You’re Hurting
    3. Consider Switching to a Menstrual Cup
    4. Recognize This Experience Actually Enhances Your Masculinity – By Dismantling It
    5. Embrace That Man-Struation Isn’t Inherently Female

    • sloopyinca

      6. Voluntarily commit yourself to an insane asylum.

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^THIS^^^

    • juris imprudent

      Writers at The Bee stare, slack-jawed – you can’t even parody that.

    • straffinrun

      My man cave looks like someone slaughtered a goat in it.

      • UnCivilServant

        Well, where did you expect us to slaughter the goat?

      • straffinrun

        Epstein Island.

      • bacon-magic

        Nah…that’s babies.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        My man cave

        That is funny.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s a literal cave he carved out of the ground under his home with a spoon.

      • AlexinCT

        I think he was talking about the man-chicks vajayjay…

    • Apples and Knives

      2. Take Pain Meds (Or Other Relief Factors) If You’re Hurting

      Nothing more masculine than taking Motrin during your period.

      • banginglc1

        Midol for Men – Coming soon to a market near you!

      • Nephilium

        Shit… didn’t Bill Cosby do a bit about that decades ago?

    • Festus' Mustache

      Ok. I’m about done with this nonsense… It is literally hurting my brain. I read that and shooting pain ran up the left side of my head.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        That is just your moon cycle starting up again.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Dude. My moon cycle is either Venus or Jupiter. I hear tell there are happy pills for that.

    • Rebel Scum

      Embrace That Man-Struation Isn’t Inherently Female

      *blinks*

      These people are insane.

    • Plisade

      “War is peace.
      Freedom is slavery.
      Ignorance is strength.”
      Enhancing is Dismantling.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    Abbott said in TV interviews he regretted not closing down bars again sooner, adding they are major sources of spread for the deadly disease.

    “If I could go back and redo anything, it probably would have been to slow down the opening of bars,” Abbott previously told KVIA. “People go to bars to get close and to drink and to socialize, and that’s the kind of thing that stokes the spread of the coronavirus.”

    We can’t have the serfs fraternizing. They might get some crazy idea about self-ownership.

    • mrfamous

      “Abbott said in TV interviews he regretted not closing down bars again sooner, adding they are major sources of spread for the deadly disease.”

      Citation?

      • R C Dean

        “Gov. Abbott, could you explain how you can pull something out of your ass when you are in a wheelchair?”

      • Homple

        The devil made laugh at this.

      • Ownbestenemy

        There is no basis…and hopefully the Nevada suit will bring that to light.

  19. Rebel Scum

    One study published in 2018 found that Black men are roughly 3.5 times more likely to be killed by law enforcement than White men.

    Out of context and misleading stat is out of context and misleading.

    • Q Continuum

      This kind of horseshit is exactly why I got so pissed when this all went ZOMG AMERIKKKA IS TOTES RAYCISSSSSS! after Floyd’s death.

      We can’t possibly have a discussion about police brutality in general, no we have to couch it in racial terms and complain about all kind of ancillary shit to muddy the waters and ensure nothing meaningful gets done.

      • juris imprudent

        Race hustlers gotta hustle…

      • sloopyinca

        What do you mean “nothing meaningful”? Snyder is changing the name of the Redskins and some inanimate objects got torn down. If that’s not meaningful, I don’t know what is. I mean, sure, some people got murdered, there were billions of dollars in property damage in cities across America, rioters and looters took over sections of Seattle. But those statues came down, so it was all worth it!

      • PieInTheSky

        Snyder is changing the name of the Redskins and some inanimate objects got torn down- you forgot people talking on social media how important all this is. and woke corporation engaging in meaningless shit.

      • Chipwooder

        What, you’re not impressed by Autotrader’s commitment to black bodies?

      • Jarflax

        Black cars matter! Especially on a sunny summer day.

  20. Not Adahn

    Interesting development in local news (for a certain value of “local”)

    This was a shrieking panic because of course it was.

    This morning though, the NPR affiliate was reporting that the victim has been nothing but a vicious vandal/harasser/general bad guy for the last two years according to the Guyanese neighborhood he lives in, according to interviews that the NPRista were doing. They were much more upset that it took the cops this long to drag the “victim” off. And that the only Guyanese member of the city council is taking the white cop’s side.

    • Q Continuum

      “They were much more upset that it took the cops this long to drag the “victim” off. And that the only Guyanese member of the city council is taking the white cop’s side”

      Nazi sympathizers. The whole lot of them.

      • juris imprudent

        Schenectady syndrome.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      She looka like a man.

      • PieInTheSky

        sexi… no wai transpho… hmmm…. body shaming !!!

    • Bobarian LMD

      It looks like he took a small amount of estrogen by mistake.

  21. Mojeaux

    Festus, what happened at your work? I missed it. Whatever it is, good luck!

    @UCS, I will read your story later today.

    • UnCivilServant

      let me know what you think when you get around to it.

      • PieInTheSky

        the ending was a bit deus ex machina-y.

        Also no one fucked the corpse of the pirate queen. But I assume there is time for that when they come back with the fleet.

    • Festus' Mustache

      The powers that be tried to force me to do something outside of my purview. I basically said “Fuck Off Slaver!” The resulting hullaballoo remains, at this juncture, a mystery. Rest assured, I am not giving in. I’m too old to take the knee (hard to stand up). It’s probably nothing but in these trying times?

      • Festus' Mustache

        Also , thanks for asking Sweet Mojo!

  22. PieInTheSky

    I am bored and don’t fell like working. I have next two day time off for not much reason and don’t have something clear to do now as I wait for other people. I am inclined to just saying fuck it. I feel like drinking but I shouldn’t as I believe I will the next 4 days. I mean I am one beer in but at 15:32 that is ok.

    • PieInTheSky

      If they do for the republicans it would be a waste. I don;t get why these people who feel so oppressed by the state don’t go more libertarian.

      • Q Continuum

        Do they look like Nazis to you Pie?

      • PieInTheSky

        well given the antisemitism in some circles…

      • Not Adahn

        Not to mention the enhanced fashion sense.

      • PieInTheSky

        gucci boss it’s all the same

      • kbolino

        Well, with such voices speaking for libertarianism as the LP and Gary Johnson and Jo Jorgensen and half the staff of Reason and organizations like the modern Cato Institute, etc., what reason have they got to be libertarian?

        “The Slightly-Less Radical Wing of the Democratic Party” doesn’t quite have the sales appeal its proponents seem to think.

      • kbolino

        (plus the Republicans by and large have already staked out that position, so it’s a crowded field)

  23. Tundra

    Are the numbers going the wrong way? Is the death rate climbing? Are hospitals overwhelmed?

    Is fuckface Walz filling the $7million backup morgue here with stiffs?

    No?

    Then fuck you.

    • Nephilium

      That song has been in heavy rotation here.

    • PieInTheSky

      Romania still has a lot of daily cases. What I did notice is that countries like Germany or France no longer seem to test. Is the bug gone or did they just stop?

  24. Rebel Scum

    ‘While we support ongoing education and dialogue in the fight against bigotry, we are deeply troubled that Nick has failed to acknowledge or apologize for perpetuating anti-Semitism, and we are terminating our relationship with him,’ the organization explained.

    And what of the anti-Caucasian comments?

    • Not Adahn

      No biggie. SCIENCE! had determined that it’s impossible to be racist against wypipo. All educated people agree on that.

    • sloopyinca

      Your white privilege should help you deal with it, honkey.

    • Q Continuum

      Toxic masculinity.

      • Sean

        *golf clap*

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      this boy has already become a man, and yet there are plenty of 30-something man-children living in mommy’s basement, too inconvenienced to get a job.

      Maturity isn’t an age, it’s a state of mind.

      • Viking1865

        I mean, they named him Bridger. As in Jim Bridger.

        Hmmm he was from Richmond, maybe they can put up a statue of him on Monument Avenue.

    • Jarflax

      Reserve him a spot at the service academy of his choice right now.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Double down

    Disciplined use of face coverings, social distancing and handwashing can shut down the pandemic that continues to strengthen across the nation, said Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Masks, he said at a press conference Tuesday in North Carolina, are our “major” defense against the spread of the virus. He also said that President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence should wear masks to set an example.

    “If all of us would put on a face covering now for the next four weeks to six weeks, we could drive this epidemic to the ground in this country,” he said.

    Sure, Bob. And if we haven’t killed off the virus in six weeks, we’ll just keep wearing the masks in perpetuity. Because you’re not wrong, you just were a little off on the time frame.

    • straffinrun

      How would wearing masks “drive this epidemic to the ground”? If his theory is right, it’ll just pop back up again later.

    • mrfamous

      “If all of us would put on a face covering now for the next four weeks to six weeks, we could drive this epidemic to the ground in this country,”

      Citation?

    • Rufus the Monocled

      It’s crazy how little faith or respect I have for public health officials at the moment.

      They’re so desperate they hang their scientific hat on….masks.

      It’s becoming a social engineering project.

      This is where I get off.

      • juris imprudent

        The same CDC director that said no thanks to foreign assistance and stopped all private testing efforts while his own lab screwed the pooch.

        Oh yeah, that is an expert I have total faith in.

  26. Rebel Scum

    Chicago has added two additional states to its travel order, which requires travelers visiting or returning to the city from certain states to quarantine for 14 days.

    Because to Chicom Flu is the biggest problem in Chicago right now.

    • mrfamous

      The city cannot afford to have people shot by COVID-19 infected bullets.

    • mrfamous

      As I’ve gotten older, it’s encouraged me to see how many pretty hot 52 year old women there are out there. She’s not one of them. She looks 90.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        She’s 52?

        Great Kookamonga…

    • sloopyinca

      I’m confused. Why is Skeletor’s grandma in the news?

      • AlexinCT

        Nice one Sloop!

    • Sean

      Eeeeewwwww.

  27. Drake

    Like most people here I look at politics as the choice between more freedom versus less. But it’s becoming impossible to notice the racial aspect of what’s going on – the prosecutor who drops all charges against looters who participated in deadly riots, but is going after a white couple who blocked the mob from destroying their home is just the most blatant sign of the two-tier system we now live in.

    Ideological fanatics in the 20th Century had no problems throwing various forms of racism in with their crazy socialist agendas. Is anything in this article not true?

    Our De Facto Antiwhite Apartheid

    • PieInTheSky

      Like most people here I look at politics as the choice between more freedom versus less – an optimist, I see

      • mrfamous

        Yeah. My choices appear to be “less freedom” and “a lot less freedom.”

    • Q Continuum

      Considering that a not-insignificant number of the rioters let off the hook were white I think it’s more goodthink vs. badthink than purely racial. True that part of being a goodthinker is believing in the “white privilege” nonsense so that adds a racial aspect to it, but as long as you say the right incantations and perform the proper rituals, you’ll be let off the hook regardless of your color.

      • Viking1865

        Yeah you have to remember, when the Left says “white” they mean “white and non leftist”. Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, and every other lily white commie SOB are never considered part of “white supremacy”.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    How would wearing masks “drive this epidemic to the ground”?

    The same way wearing garlic around your neck keeps you safe from vampires.

    MAGIC SCIENCE!

  29. PieInTheSky

    capitalism has tricked everyone into believing productivity is the sole measure of one’s value as a human being, which ties into the supremacist ideals of intelligence and its use as a race divider

    https://twitter.com/garblefart/status/1283092961811673089

    who the fuck believes that? seriously, I haven’t met anyone

    • UnCivilServant

      People who revel in sloth and envy.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Maybe some eugenicist assholes from a hundred years ago.

    • straffinrun

      That is no kidding racist. Sounds like the guy is admitting that some races are less intelligent.

    • Viking1865

      Yeah even the people who really chase money are chasing it for the utility it provides, not for the sheer joy of having a big number. You make money to give yourself and your family a nice life, not to swim in a pool of gold coins.

      • Idle Hands

        meh not everyone. Some people chase it just for the number.

      • AlexinCT

        It gets you to get more tiddies!

    • PieInTheSky

      something tells me lefties see worth in money made and project that on others….

    • Rebel Scum

      productivity is the sole measure of one’s value as a human being an employee.

  30. Rebel Scum

    Jeffrey Epstein’s former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, will remain behind bars until trial after she was denied bail Tuesday

    I’m sure she’ll be safe in prison.

  31. Rufus the Monocled

    Who’s the ‘fucking imbecile’ pictured?

    Besides me of course.

    • sloopyinca

      The DA in St Louis.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        She screams SJW cunt.

      • bacon-magic

        She screams a lot. Also suing the city for racial discrimination.

  32. straffinrun

    Most of my friends are saying that they “just hope this craziness ends soon.” It may end soon, but it’s delusional to think the state is going to be rolling back any of the power they have so graciously bestowed upon themselves or that the mob will realize they’ve cancelled enough people and stop. America really shit the bed on this stuff.

    • Q Continuum

      As if electing Senile Joe will bring it to an end. Rewarding behavior ensures you get more of that behavior.

      • straffinrun

        The left has made it clear what ending they want. I think some people may not go along with the plan, though.

    • Nephilium

      I had hope it would end a while ago. Now as they keep opening up and shutting things back down, that hope is pretty well dead.

    • Drake

      November – either the blue states that broke themselves will expect to get paid off by Joe – or they go fucking nuts when Trump is reelected. Either way, no reason to keep it going past that point.

    • Idle Hands

      The amount of people still for this is horrifying. States are seriously talking about clamping down again and people are cheering them on. It’s terrifying.

  33. PieInTheSky

    Fertility rate: ‘Jaw-dropping’ global crash in children being born

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53409521

    I blame capitalism. And no fault divorce. Or something

    • Q Continuum

      HORMONZ IN THE WATER!!!!!!

      • Not Adahn

        It’s turning the millennials gay trans!

    • robc

      Jaw-dropping? That trend is as older than me. I was expecting something surprising.

    • mrfamous

      It’s hard (though technically not impossible) to impregnate someone from 6 feet away.

      • See Double You

        Not if she lies back and opens wide, while you’ve been pumpin’ it for half an hour.

  34. Not Adahn

    The original story was laughed at here already but here’s some updating and people pointing out that the motto of the NYT is

    All the News that Fits, We Print.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      But of course….

  35. The Late P Brooks

    I don’t wish her ill, personally, but why the fuck hasn’t Ginsberg resigned from the goddam Supreme Court?

    It’s absurd to see somebody that frail and ill clinging so desperately to power. And for blatantly politically partisan reasons.

    • Don Escaped both Landslides

      What’s the correct perspective here? I’m always intrigued to read judgment calls on Glibs where someone is found to be enjoying too much freedom, employing too much speech, or when a Constitutional power is being exercised.

      When your guy is on the bench, what criteria would you advise he use to decide when he’s too frail and ill to no longer further your preferences?

      • Nephilium

        I’d have a little more faith if the impeachment power was used on the judiciary more frequently.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That’s a question for Tom Brady.

    • Don Escaped both Landslides

      What’s the correct perspective here? I’m always intrigued to read judgment calls on Glibs where someone is found to be enjoying too much freedom, employing too much speech, or when a Constitutional power is being exercised.

      When your guy is on the bench, what criteria would you advise he use to decide when he’s too frail and ill to no longer further your preferences?

      • Not Adahn

        I’m always intrigued to read judgment calls on Glibs where someone is found to be enjoying too much freedom, employing too much speech, or when a Constitutional power is being exercised.

        Such as?

      • kbolino

        Well, the whole “furthering [one’s] preferences” is part of the problem. It defeats the purpose of having a non-elected branch of government if that branch is just doing whatever they think is popular. Popularity is measured by elections not crystal balls. It’s not their job to be popular, it’s their job to apply the law. Ginsberg and the other 8 should resign because they can’t do their jobs regardless of their health, but of course no one appointed to replace them will likely do the job any better. The office has too much power and too little accountability.

    • robc

      Personal opinion: With 9 seats, SCOTUS terms should last 18 years. Every odd year a new one is appointed, so every President would get to nominate 2 in a 4 year term. No second term for SCOTUS. If someone dies/quits early, the President would get a bonus appointment to fill the rest of their term.

      Clearly better than a “for life” appointment. 18 years with no 2nd term provides them with the same protection from politics as a life term does.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Much better than what we have.

      • mrfamous

        I think the “protection from politics” argument for lifetime appointments should be dead, because it quite obviously hasn’t achieved its purpose. The court is obviously wholly political.

    • Viking1865

      She doesn’t need to be in good health, she just needs to be strong enough to sign at the bottom of the opinion the very bright proggie clerk writes.

    • Jarflax

      Meh, she is within her rights and making a logical choice from her perspective. If it were Thomas and Hillary were president I’d be keeping a vigil for him to last the term.

    • Tejicano

      Hell, Sandra Day O’Connor is still alive but chose to retire from the court in 2006. She knew when she had reached her limit and set politics aside to leave.

    • The Last American Hero

      I do. I hope that hateful bitch dies in great pain (Raich) and homeless (Kelo).

  36. Rebel Scum

    Shut up, Jim.

    Acosta said, “I’ve never seen a president turn the Rose Garden into a campaign rally the way President Trump did in the last — more than an hour. This is obviously the campaign rally he wanted to have in New Hampshire that his campaign wasn’t able to have last weekend. He instead decided to have it here in the rose garden. You can just go through line by line, section by section of what the president had to say here in almost the same fashion we do with the campaign rallies to debunk, you know, the myths, the lies, the stretching of the truth and so on. That is what took place here in the Rose Garden.”

    You and NPCNN know all bout this type of thing.

    • Chipwooder

      Acosta said, “I’ve never seen a president turn the Rose Garden into a campaign rally the way President Trump did in the last — more than an hour.

      But you did see a president throw a party for piece of shit deserter Bowe Bergdahl, didn’t you?

    • Sean

      That’s some Sugarfree shit right there.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Maybe the future isn’t lost quite yet.

    • Chipwooder

      First heartwarming news I’ve seen in a while.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Heh. Mike’s, Loko, and $3 wine.

  37. PieInTheSky

    If nuclear power had taken off in the 1970s, the average person might never even have heard of “global warming”

    https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/1279801228860575745

    where would the graft in that be? But I do remember how optimistic some 60s sf was about how the future will be all the energy you need from nuclear power.

    • Chipwooder

      And it was the same leftist watermelon fuckers caterwauling about global warming, I mean climate change, who opposed nuclear power at every turn.

    • robc

      IIRC, statistically, approximately 0.5 people died of cancer from the radiation release from TMI.

      Maybe 1 did, maybe none. Possibly even 2 if their luck was bad.

      Literally, stress from worrying about the accident killed more than that.

      • Jarflax

        Yep, now look into radiation released by coal plants.

      • robc

        I don’t have to, I have known the numbers for 30 years, it is much higher. They don’t have the strict requirements that Nuke plants do.

        Don’t forget, my degree is in Nuke Engineering.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        Tom Woods had him on his podcast last week as well. Very good listen.

    • Rebel Scum

      Because we were heading for another ice age in the 70s and everyone knew it.

  38. Rebel Scum

    Thomas Sowell: Biden Win Maybe ‘Point Of No Return’ For U.S.; Claims Of ‘Systemic Racism’ Nazi-Like Propaganda

    “Well, I must say, even though I’m regarded as pessimistic, I was never pessimistic enough to think that things would degenerate to the point where they are now where adult human beings are talking about getting rid of the police, where they’re talking about reducing the number of police, reducing the resources put into police work at a time when murder rates have been skyrocketing over what they were just a year ago in 2019,” Sowell responded.

    “I never dreamed we’d come to this point,” Sowell continued. “It just seems such utter madness, and what is frightening is how many people in responsible positions are caving in to every demand that is made, repeating any kind of nonsense that you’re supposed to repeat.”

    “I do believe that we may well be, we may well reach a point of no return. I hope that of course, that will never happen. But there is such a thing as a point of no return,” Sowell said. “The Roman Empire overcame many problems in its long history, but eventually it reached the point where it simply could no longer continue on, and much of that was from within, not just the Barbarians attacking from outside.”

    • leon

      “talking about getting rid of the police, where they’re talking about reducing the number of police, reducing the resources put into police work at a time when murder rates have been skyrocketing”

      Libertarians are fucking chopped liver I guess.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      But just the messaging is an incoherent mess. One day he talks like a socialist, the next he’s a populist America First. And can’t even convey either in any lucid manner.

      I refuse to believe Americans don’t see this. Even the low IQ ones. That’s how blatant it is.

      • Not Adahn

        This morning there was some story about how the banks are evil/stupid/need to be investigated for paying dividends to their shareholders, when the should be hoarding that cash for the next phase of the lockdown instead.

      • Rebel Scum

        That’s where you are wrong, comrade. It doesn’t go far enough.

        Sanders said Biden’s proposals are “not only a significant step forward, but are going to win widespread support from the progressive community.” …

        Sanders continued, “But I think it is very hard for anybody to seriously look at these proposals, whether it is on health care, whether it’s on the environment or climate change, whether it’s on education, whether it’s in the economy, and not to see that, if these proposals were to be implemented, Joe Biden would be the most progressive president since FDR. It’s a significant step forward, but, in truth, it’s not all that I would like.”

      • Tejicano

        All I ask is that, as the useful idiots are rounded up, lined against the wall and shot – would somebody please record Sander’s last reactions (facial and/or verbal) in digital as he comes to realize that everything he has done was just a vehicle for those who will actually rule and his corpse will simply rot in a ditch somewhere.

  39. sloopyinca

    I’d like to apologize for my comments yesterday about the Ford Bronco’s appearance, because i looked last night at the replies and some may have been upset.

    If there are any crack addicts in the audience, I didn’t mean to offend you.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Apology accepted

      *hits pipe*

    • Not Adahn

      Are people still getting addicted to that? It seems so ’80s. Maybe it’s retro now?

      • sloopyinca

        I’d assume there’s still crack addiction. Unless Hunter Biden is clean now.

      • Rebel Scum

        What’s old is new.

    • LJW

      I can’t seem to find your comments, but I like the look of the new Bronco. Even the Sport is decent looking.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        It actually looks like a modern 60’s Bronco, no crack needed.

      • sloopyinca

        Lol, that is comically retarded.

      • leon

        That car looks like it has buck teeth and needs glasses.

      • mindyourbusiness

        It’s ugly and the stylists dressed it funny.

  40. Rufus the Monocled

    Who would have thought that Mask Theory would become a thing during this pandemic?

    It’s amazing how a stupid measure like this backed by some (perhaps tenuous) evidence regarding its effectiveness is being embraced by so many people.

    A rational society thus concludes. If there’s no empirical evidence but some evidence, then I will adjust and behave accordingly. If someone asks I wear it because, say, they have co-morbidities, I respectfully can consent. Or not.

    The only option here is encourage it (although that often becomes bullying) but not mandate it. And the reasons for that are too numerous for me to bring up here because I gotta go the mechanic.

    • ChipsnSalsa

      and by “gotta go the mechanic” he means…

  41. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: Enacted Labor Theory of Value

    This post is probably going to offend someone so I apologize in advance

    But…

    Are White people incapable of using Google? I just wonder if asking others for information on social media rather than doing the work of finding out the truth for themselves is just White culture or how White people are socialized. Is it to have conversations? I really don’t understand this behavior.

    In the Black community, we learn from birth we have to work twice as hard for half as much. So we come with receipts.

    Other minority groups seem to be all about that model minority hard-working stereotype so for the most part, I don’t see these behaviors in those groups either.

    As a mod of /r/blacklivesmatter one of the rules in the sub is “We are not here to educate you.” It’s a rule that is broken constantly, multiple times daily. It seems folks don’t even bother to read the rules of the sub before posting and commenting.

    It appears critical thinking is in short supply as evidenced by so many getting their information from social media and not doing due diligence (the people who voted for Trump but are now incredibly disgusted, for example).

    The reason it’s upsetting is because alt-right people know this about good well-intentioned White folks, and they exploit this weakness by disseminating false information, conspiracy theories, and racist lies.

    Moreover, when POCs are doing the hard emotional work others can easily Google, we never know if it’s a bad faith actor asking for information to troll, harass, anger, frustrate, or just tire us out which are known tactics used by White supremacists on the internet.

    That’s why I’m so grateful spaces like /r/socialjustice101 exist but why does it seem to be a predominantly White behavior to expect and ask other people to educate them on information they can easily find out for themselves?

    I am asking in good faith and again, no offense intended though I am sure offense will be taken.

    EDIT: I give leeway to the young, the old, foreigners, and immigrants. Whether that’s ageist or unpatriotic is another discussion.

    EDIT 2: Obligatory Not All White People ™

    EDIT 3: I’m not talking about this space. I realize this space exists to educate which is why I send folks here. (And it’s also why I posted; sometimes I want to be educated by Redditors too! ?)

    EDIT 4: For the most part I don’t mind educating people though I do get short on patience sometimes because I’m human and a flawed one at that. But I’ve put together an antiracist Google doc inspired by my online dating profile. You can view and share at tinyurl dot com backslash OK can you see. Or here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17xuiSmOqG337RNVexnHQHs7ngA_HnAer4FUBGfQ-mLE/edit?usp=sharing

    I don’t speak for all Black people. It’s also 220+ pages and counting so caveat emptor.

    • leon

      “The reason it’s upsetting is because alt-right people know this about good well-intentioned White folks, and they exploit this weakness by disseminating false information, conspiracy theories, and racist lies.”

      Well when you’re position is “we don’t educate you”, don’t be surprised when you find out that people learn about you from your enemies.

    • straffinrun

      Go back to the “we waz Kangz!” please.

    • Chipwooder

      “Listen to us!!!”

      “Stop asking us to educate you!!!”

      Well, pick one or the other.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I think it’s just “Just do what we say and don’t ask questions.”

    • Not Adahn

      Are White people incapable of using Google? I just wonder if asking others for information on social media rather than doing the work of finding out the truth for themselves is just White culture or how White people are socialized. Is it to have conversations? I really don’t understand this behavior.

      Yes, it’s a socialization thing wherein you are taught the importance of a) having conversations and b) making room in the conversation for the other person to demonstrate their expertise/competence. By asking someone a question you are giving them a chance to “show off” and be correct about something. You are giving them a chance to establish themselves as a valuable and reliable source.

      I suppose that I shouldn’t be surprised at this coming from a group that think “conversation” means “stand there while I scream at you,” but JFC, I write an astrology column for a glibertarian onlinethingy and I have enough social awareness to see what’s going on. Maybe there is something to the idea that autism is the norm among the yoots.

      • Jarflax

        ^this.

        And astrology is still bunk.

      • Not Adahn

        I’m sure you meant “Astrology… I’ll be in my bunk.”

      • Jarflax

        Well I do want to take the “Ok Boomer” commie to my bunk so wrongness is clearly not a barrier to entry.

    • Rebel Scum

      to get our kids to market more quickly

      Trains?

      • AlexinCT

        Epstein ranch?

    • AlexinCT

      WTF was this asshat saying?

    • Tejicano

      Ho-ley Fcuk! That’s barely one bite of word salad without any dressing. Trump, as hamfisted as he is, would hammer this fool into the pavement without breaking a sweat.

  42. The Late P Brooks

    I’d like to apologize for my comments yesterday about the Ford Bronco’s appearance, because i looked last night at the replies and some may have been upset.

    It’s not as ugly as a Nissan.

    • sloopyinca

      As someone who has exclusively bought Nissans for the last several years, I wholeheartedly agree.
      But it’s a different kind of ugly. Nissans are “plain” ugly. The Bronco, IMO, is “neon tie-dye t-shirt with Wham! on it and acid-wash jean shorts” ugly.

      • Tres Cool

        But enough about my high school…..

      • Jarflax

        So you are saying it is a return to the Reagan years?

    • Festus' Mustache

      Wifey drives a Juke. That is one pug-ugly car but it does have pep. I always feel like an idiot whenever I have to drive it.

    • kinnath

      I don’t think this is ugly.

      • sloopyinca

        That’s a long time ago.

        Now your choices are: the Altima, the small Altima (Sentra), the super-small Altima (Versa) , the fast Altima (Maxima), the swollen Altima (Rogue), the swollen fast Altima (Murano), the big swollen Altima (Pathfinder) or the Titan or Titan without a bed.

      • R C Dean

        Sad that you overlook what always been one of the best looking (and arguably best value) sports cars.

      • kinnath

        My 2006 350Z is this color.

      • sloopyinca

        Oh crap, I forgot about the Z. I have always loved the Z.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    What’s the correct perspective here? I’m always intrigued to read judgment calls on Glibs where someone is found to be enjoying too much freedom, employing too much speech, or when a Constitutional power is being exercised.

    “Too much free speech” “Too much freedom” ?

    If she wants to sit in her rocking chair and opine on the news of the day, that’s fine.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    As an employee of the federal government, Is [insert name] not under an obligation to bring reasonable physical and full mental capacity to the workplace?

    I would expect no less of Clarence Thomas.

  45. Festus' Mustache

    I skipped a shitload of comments but now I just want Fourscore to tell us a nice story about bees. I can’t take it anymore. See ya later, Glibs.

  46. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: I’m Rubber And You’re Glue, It Bounces Off Me And Sticks To You

    My mum studied cults (“new religious movements” mum please don’t tell me off) and her first and only rule of how to not get into a cult was “do not. Under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE!!! Debate them.” Because they got debated into the cult and know the arguments that work.

    So yeah that’s why all those Alt-Right chodes are always yelling DEBATE MEEEEEEE every chance they get. Debate isn’t a fair and reasoned discussion, it’s an extremely effective recruitment tool.

    You don’t have to debate them. Nobody does.

    • sloopyinca

      I’m gonna rise above debating the so-called alt-right and call them chodes instead.

      Because I’m a serious person.

      • leon

        I don’t think its been 5 years since i last saw the word chode used.

      • cyto

        I don’t know when I first noticed that idea permeating the left. The idea that reality is objectively on their side and it is wrong to even debate it.

        Jon Stewart famously said reality has a liberal bias. But at the same time social justice warriors were beginning to say it is not my job to educate you in response to people questioning there policy objectives.

        Then, back during the hands up don’t shoot era of BLM, you began hearing the phrase now is not the time for you to speak, now is the time for you to support us and listen.

        On the second run through with the BLM crowd, this has become the official position everywhere. NPR has told me that it is my job to shut up and support whatever BLM says. NBC has told me the same thing. So has the New York Times.

        Then they came up with the label anti-racist. They began abandoning the color blind Society some 20 years ago. But sometime over the last decade it became racist to even suggest such a thing. Now you are a racist if you are not an anti-racist. And apparently being an anti-racist means acknowledging that white people are inherently evil and stained with racism.

        I don’t know how you even discuss anything with that. When it is their official position that you are not allowed to speak you are only allowed to cheer them on, and only people of color are allowed to speak because being white is prima facie evidence of inherited guilt, what is there to discuss? They have immunized themselves against having to listen to reason or even moral arguments that were offered up by giants like Martin Luther King jr.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        There is only one logical endpoint to the trend.

        We will see serious political violence before this is over.

      • straffinrun

        Gawd I hope so. The alternative is worse.

      • cyto

        I agree with the sentiment behind this statement, if not the hope for violence.

        But I’m worried that it is a pipe dream. I just don’t see enough people willing to fight back. When faced with a large number of motivated people, it seems that the human thing to do is to shut up and go along with it. My training is an American citizen goes against this, but my observation of the behavior of humans in large groups disagrees.

        There have been so many times when a small group of insurgents has used violence against the citizenry to obtain power that I have to accept that this works. I don’t understand how people and turn on their government because an Insurgent group is blowing up people in the marketplace and then install the people who blow up people in the marketplace as their new government. It makes absolutely no sense to me, but it has happened enough times that I must acknowledge that it is a reality for the human response.

      • straffinrun

        There may come a tipping point when “white flight” is no longer an option. You gotta punch the bully eventually.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It may be Seattle that is the proverbial canary.

        When the city government refuses to protect the private property and lives of its residents, and then raises taxes on those residents while exempting the city workers from those tax increases, that’s getting very close to creating a permanent ruling class at a local level.

        We’ll see what happens next.

      • R C Dean

        I don’t know what the tipping point might be, or who will actually be targeted for violence and by who, but I think we are already at a point where we have political violence – that’s what BLM/antifa are all about. When does it get “serious”? Who says it isn’t already?

        What it is, at this point, is one-sided with very few exceptions, and all or nearly all of the exceptions look like self-defense (so, not really political). The real question is, when does the counter-insurgency begin, and will it be the government doing its job, or citizens who are fed up with being targeted for violence in what will be at some level a failed state taking matters into their own hands.

        Of course, there is always the possibility that history will look back on 2020 as the year that the hard left moved its takeover of the US out of the genteel institutions, and into the streets, on its way to “revolutionizing” and taking over the government. There may be no counterinsurgency at all, merely a bloated and lazy society conceding to rule by murderous lunatics.

      • Rebel Scum

        Leftism is a cult. Refusal to allow freedom of speech and open debate is what is dangerous.

        anti-racist

        In practice this just means anti-white. So I am going to continue to be not racist.

      • Idle Hands

        It’s actually worse than you think Black Lives Matters actually encourages ignorance as a point of pride. And says so.

        https://youtu.be/QT_mTr0WD14?t=1803

    • leon

      My mum studied cults (“new religious movements” mum please don’t tell me off) and her first and only rule of how to not get into a cult was “do not. Under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE!!! Debate them.” Because they got debated into the cult and know the arguments that work.

      Ok… so bear with me here for a second. The only reason we know that the person is wrong is because you asserted that they were a cult. You then use that to classify anyone you disagree with as a cult, and not worth listening to. If a cult is so convincing that intelliegent people can be convinced by it, maybe you need a better argument than “Don’t listen to them or the thought contagion will get you!”.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        She’s projecting. It is she that is in a cult. And the cult has forbidden her to speak to wrongthinkers.

      • EvilSheldon

        Yup. People in cults will never ever debate or discuss with outsiders.

    • Jarflax

      When your argument is “do not debate the other side because they will convert you,” you have admitted they are in the right.

      • Nephilium

        Yeah, I mean no religion emphasis debate and arguing about things.

      • ruodberht

        -1 Guide for the Perplexed

      • juris imprudent

        Even within Catholic thought there has been a considerable tension between the Thomists and Augustinians. You would think I’d be more sympathetic to the scholastics, but actually I find grace to be a more persuasive (if still insufficient) argument.

      • Rebel Scum

        Pretty much. Your argument does not stand up to scrutiny so you lose.

    • Count Potato

      I don’t know how you decide what doesn’t get posted on Tard Tuesday, because that’s completely tarded.

  47. The Late P Brooks

    Debate isn’t a fair and reasoned discussion, it’s an extremely effective recruitment tool.

    Oh.

    • juris imprudent

      Well, when you want to attack the entire Western canon…

    • AlexinCT

      You know, people that debate might use fact & logic instead of appeals to emotion, which is a powerful way to get to people not completely driven by hormones and stupidity….

  48. PieInTheSky

    Fuck it it I poured some o that Tempelton 6yo Rye over some ice cause it is warm-ish and it aint good enough for neat drinking. I might drop some Peychaud’s bitter in I might not. I am bored depressed so i t is drink o clock

    • PieInTheSky

      it is still fun how all Romanian stores include all US whiskey in the bourbon category. So I have to go to the bourbon tab in an online store to find rye

      • Jarflax

        The ryes are in the bourbon section at every liquor store I frequent as well. Probably because most distillers who make a rye also make a bourbon.

      • Not Adahn

        Here the American (and hte lone example of the Irish) ryes are in their own section, but the Canadian ones are in the Canadian ones arei nthe Canadian section.

      • banginglc1

        Is the Canadian Whiskey section just a garbage can?

        /not a fan of Canadian whiskey

      • Not Adahn

        Crown is a perfectly cromulent tipple.

      • Chipwooder

        In Virginia ABC stores (sigh), there’s just a whiskey section for everything but scotch. Rye, bourbon, Canadian, Irish….it’s all in the same section.

  49. The Late P Brooks

    It appears critical thinking is in short supply as evidenced by so many getting their information from social media and not doing due diligence (the people who voted for Trump but are now incredibly disgusted, for example).

    So precious.

    • leon

      Like i said above, if you are unwilling to talk to people when they ask you a question, and treat them like retards, they will still seek info on their questions, and be open to people who don’t like you describing you to them. It is just a bad strategy on their end to hold this condecending attitude of “I don’t have to explain my pain to you”. And i think the reason they take the tact is because they know they aren’t convincing to normies, and it’s more effective to try to brow beat normies with: “It’s racial oppression to have to explain my oppression”.

      • cyto

        Particularly when it is a wealthy New York writer who lives in Manhattan lecturing some hayseed who is unemployed in Appalachian mining country about how they are the racist oppressor who attained their position and power through racism and the New York writer who makes money off of proclaiming their victimhood is being violently oppressed.

      • Viking1865

        If you open up to an actual debate, then you have to actually respond to the cuts and thrusts of the other side.

      • Jarflax

        Never interrupt the enemy when he is making a mistake.

      • leon

        I know, I know, but i’m i like thinking about strategy, and always like thinking through why a person picks the strategy they pick. One person i can write off as being mistaken. An entire organization sticking to a bad strategy, indicates to me that they have some alternate weak point that they are covering with by using a weak strategy.

        In other words, they are so weak in the arguments that they have to resort to acting offended by questions to keep people from getting the answers that they have.

        But i might be reading too much into it.

    • PieInTheSky

      critical thinking means whatever makes my side look good

    • Nephilium

      I was worried about that…

  50. The Late P Brooks

    It is just a bad strategy on their end to hold this condecending attitude of “I don’t have to explain my pain to you”.

    I find it amusing to see people whose entire world is constructed on a foundation of argument-by-unsupported-assertion crying about a lack of critical thinking in others.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Welcome to critical theory and postmodernism.

      This is the poison that has invaded academia.

      • cyto

        It has led to an insane world of grievance culture where the most powerful departments in Academia are holy invented philosophical fantasies constructed entirely within their own subculture with their own vocabulary and their own definition of reason.

        Do used to be that old saw about arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Well, we have arrived at a world where the people calling the shots in a large chunk of society are the ones who won the argument about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

    • Rebel Scum

      Just a little ironic, don’t ya think?

      • The Last American Hero

        Not rain on your wedding day ironic.

  51. The Late P Brooks

    A trillion here, a trillion there…

    Former Vice President Joe Biden released a sprawling plan Tuesday to revamp American infrastructure and energy to both curb climate change and spur economic growth.

    The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee’s proposal aims to achieve carbon-free power generation by 2035. As the coronavirus pandemic leaves the U.S. mired in an economic crisis, Biden said he will set out to create “millions” of union jobs that pay at least $15 per hour as the U.S. overhauls its roads, bridges, trains, auto industry and broadband system.

    The plan, which comes days after a joint task force formed by the Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders campaigns outlined a climate change agenda, sets out a more ambitious approach to developing clean energy than the Biden campaign did during the Democratic primary. It calls for $2 trillion in spending over four years, more than the $1.7 trillion the campaign previously proposed to spend over a decade.

    “Even if we weren’t facing a pandemic and an economic crisis, we should be making these investments anyway,” Biden said of the plan during remarks in Delaware. He called the investments “critical” for the economy and public health.

    The Democratic presidential hopeful also aims to use the federal government to reverse years of Trump administration efforts to ease environmental rules, including by setting up an environmental and climate justice division within the Justice Department. The campaign said it would create tools to better monitor and root out pollution that disproportionately leaves communities of color with chronic health issues.

    We’ll keep shovelling money into the boiler until the Justice Express goes supersonic.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      environmental and climate justice division within the Justice Departmen

      That wouldn’t be used to extract political donations out of corporations, nosirree…

      • leon

        Biden will, for sure, reimpose the “Justice Department as leftist fundraiser” portion of Obamas legacy. Anyone who things it is crazy that Obama would use the Justice department to go after the people in the incoming admin, were not paying attention to what he had done with the Justice Department.

      • kbolino

        Justice, Education, State, the military, the IC, the IRS, the BLM, really what part of the federal government didn’t get subverted to serve Obama and the establishment?

    • kbolino

      I’d like to say I don’t know who the fuck this guy is, but Joe Biden he is not. Then again, 1) he’s only half there if that much and 2) he is a politician after all, his entire past can be rewritten on a whim to become whatever he wants it to be to win.

  52. The Late P Brooks

    Fucking unruly hicks

    The Gallatin City-County Board of Health was set to vote on Tuesday on whether to require masks in public but postponed the meeting after more than 100 people showed up and refused to listen from another room, in violation of statewide restrictions on large gatherings.

    The meeting is now set for 7 a.m. Friday.

    “The board really wanted to hear from the public today and tried every way they could to do that,” said health officer Matt Kelley after the meeting. “…It’s sad that we couldn’t do that because some people are more interested in hostility. … It makes me sad when we can’t listen to each other.”

    ——-

    …the proposed rule says that those who do not wear a mask could be charged with a misdemeanor.

    “We will be working with law enforcement to enforce the rule if the board decides to enact it,” Kelley said. “The rule allows for criminal penalties, and we’ll have to work with Brian (Gootkin) on that. But, if this passes, we’ll focus on educating the community and helping businesses get PPE (personal protective equipment).”

    Why won’t they just do what I tell them? I know what’s best.

    • Viking1865

      ” It makes me sad when we can’t listen to each other.”

      She says listen, but she means obey. Civility means compliance with their orders, nothing more or less.

      • Idle Hands

        Do you believe Snyder has agreed to change the name before securing the actual rights or that he’s just bilking the next couple of weeks of merch sales before making the announcement. I just find it so hard to believe even he would be so stupid.

      • Viking1865

        The stupidity of Dan Snyder seems to be boundless. But he’s drooling all the way to the bank, so what do I know?

      • kbolino

        I’m still a little unclear on how they’re going to continue to make money without, you know, having people watch the sport.

      • Not Adahn

        Moichendizing!

      • Nephilium

        I have a feeling they’ll be watching MLB.

      • Viking1865

        The lion’s share of the NFL money comes from the TV deal, the licensing, the merchandising, etc.

        Ticket sales aren’t nothing, but you have to remember running a gameday stadium experience has costs, its not just pure profit.

        Every team gets over 250 million a year from the league, that’s GTD money. Even if you don’t make another penny from stadium name rights, ticket sales, etc, that’s probably 30 or 40 million a year in pure profit after paying player, coach, and staff salaries.

    • kbolino

      If not for double standards, why they’d have no standards at all.

  53. Hyperion

    “This probably makes sense. Not a fan of bail-denial, but to be honest, this lady is a huge flight risk and she wouldn’t be safe if she were released.”

    What’s the odds she makes it to a hearing on this, either way?

    • Drake

      I forgot the “unless it’s inconvenient clause of the Sixth Amendment”.

    • Sean

      Zero.

      “Heart attack.”

    • kinnath

      She’ll be beaten to death by a lesbian cell mate.

    • juris imprudent

      Remake of The Gauntlet?

    • Drake

      The comments are worth the view.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Break out your flapjacks!

    • Count Potato

      “Minneapolis Park Board takes first steps toward allowing women and transgender people to go topless in city parks.”

      I don’t have a problem with that.

    • AlexinCT

      It’s always the manatees!

    • Chipwooder

      It’s never the women you want to see topless who go topless

      • Not Adahn

        Unless the place has a bouncer and you pay to get in.

  54. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of “White Men Can’t Jump Google”

    Is Hills Brothers coffee still around? I used to buy it all the time, but I don’t remember seeing for a while.

    I’m going to need a replacement for Costco coffee when I let my membership expire.

    • Gender Traitor

      I haven’t looked for their regular coffee, but they make an instant cappuccino that I used to drink on the weekends when we don’t usually brew a pot. Gave it up in search of something with less sugar. (Didn’t care for the sugar-free variety.) So the company is still around.

    • invisible finger

      Still around

  55. The Late P Brooks

    Biden will, for sure, reimpose the “Justice Department as leftist fundraiser” portion of Obamas legacy.

    Oh, yeah.

    “In penance for your sins, you will give XXX million dollars to [insert social justice / environmental action “non-profit”].”

  56. Idle Hands

    Philadelphia is saying no in person attendance allowed for NFL games in 2020.

    https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1283109073450348546

    It’s two months before the season starts. We are so far into rubbing the proles faces in it I don’t even no what to say about it anymore.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Eagles fans are one step up from Raiders fans, so this might cut the crime rate some.

      • Idle Hands

        While true it’s still fucking absurd considering what they allowed the last two months. This is an outdoor venue.

    • leon

      I wasn’t planning on watching NFL this year.

    • Idle Hands

      DC is trying to basically stop the nationals season as well with a ridiculous guideline that states anyone that comes into contact with a covid positive has to quarantine for 14 days. Doesn’t matter how many tests they run on the guys in that span they can’t do anything for 14 days. One guy gets a false positive during the regular season every guy on the 25 man has to quarantine for 14 days. It’s insanity they won’t grant them a waiver.

      • Rebel Scum

        I heard the covid tests can test positive for other coronavirus strains (you know the common cold that is mutating constantly…). If that’s true I don’t see the value in any of this. (I mean, I didn’t already, but that would make me even more cynical.)

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I heard that too.

  57. The Late P Brooks

    Philadelphia is saying no in person attendance allowed for NFL games in 2020.

    Dear Season Ticket Holder:

    Your refund, in full, is in the mail.

    Hugs and Kisses,

    The National Football League

    • Gender Traitor

      Fifteen days after they announced the cancellation of their 2020 season, I’m still waiting to hear what options our local minor league baseball team is going to offer to us season ticket holders.

  58. Grosspatzer

    Ah, summer. Sun, surf, sand. And flip-flops.

    Cuomo, in the spring:

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/states-rush-to-place-travel-restrictions-on-out-of-state-visitors-as-cornavirus-crisis-continues

    That restriction led New York Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo to threaten to sue as the Rhode Island National Guard went door-to-door in the state to tell New Yorkers about their mandatory 14-day quarantine.

    “I understand the goal … but there’s a point of absurdity, and I think what Rhode Island did is at that point of absurdity,” Cuomo said. “We have to keep the ideas and the policies we implement positive rather than reactionary and emotional.”

    Cuomo, in the summer:

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/cuomo-new-york-mandatory-travel-advisory-quarantine

    “As an increasing number of states around the country fight significant community spread, New York is taking action to maintain the precarious safety of its phased, data-driven reopening,” Cuomo said in a statement provided with a statement. “We’ve set metrics for community spread just as we’ve set metrics for everything the state does to fight COVID-19, and eight more states have reached the level of spread required to qualify for New York’s travel advisory.”

    This is the guy with an approval rating north of 70%?

    • invisible finger

      70% Approved by the TNC: Toxicrat National Committee

      The other 30% want a racial component added to the double-standard.

    • Not Adahn

      HM probably knows the correct term for “people that evaluate a person’s righteousness entirely on their speaking style.” Because honestly, that’s the main difference between Cuomo and Trump.

      • leon

        I call them moral reprobates, but maybe there is a more technical term.

      • Grosspatzer

        I think Mojeaux has the correct phrasing.

      • Mojeaux

        Wait, what? What was my phrasing? I forgot.

      • Gender Traitor

        I think it’s spelled with an “e” at the end.

      • Grosspatzer

        “Cunte” FTW. I love archaic spellings.

      • Grosspatzer

        GT gets it.

      • Mojeaux

        Oh! *headdesk*

      • kbolino

        His core competencies appear to be:

        1) He’s not Trump
        2) He likes PowerPoint

        Honestly, is it any wonder he has won over the entire passive-aggressive office worker voting bloc?

    • robc

      With 3 you have to play zone.

    • Rebel Scum

      My cat does the same thing.

  59. waffles

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  60. Rebel Scum

    That’s not how this works.

    Joe Biden’s aides want President Trump to pay back taxpayers for campaigning from the White House’s Rose Garden.

    Biden spokeswoman Kate Bedingfield said Trump’s speech Tuesday sounded more like a politician who sees “his re-election slipping away” than that of a president. She added he seemed frustrated he can’t host large, boisterous rallies because of his “botched response” to the COVID-19 pandemic.

    “The American taxpayer should be reimbursed for the abuse of funds this spectacle represented,” Bedingfield wrote in a statement.

    No president ever said anything political from behind the presidential podium. This is just more destruction of norms by Drumpfler. It is known.

    • Drake

      Right after Biden and Obama payback the public for all the campaign trips they made in Air Force One and Two.

  61. Don Escaped both Landslides

    hard to imagine anyone here defending the Hatch Act in any regard

    • leon

      If it is named after that jackass Orrin Hatch, then thats all i need to know.

    • Rebel Scum

      “Forgot”…

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Only off by 10x.

      See also: iron content of spinach.

  62. Mojeaux

    re Ghislane Maxwell.

    (Aside: I really like the name “Ghislane”.)

    In all those movies where there’s a secret cabal, nobody knows about it except a select few people. “If the public knew… [insert bad thing happening here].”

    Well, this cabal, everybody knows about. In fact, it’s ALMOST a joke. And nobody can do anything about it.

    “Secret” cabal. We’re just so much dirt on the ground.

    • PieInTheSky

      Aside: I really like the name “Ghislane” – but do you pronounce it right? it is not jizz lane

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Few English speakers seem able to pronounce it. Ghee-len.

      • Mojeaux

        I also like the name Genevieve pr. jhon-vee-EV.

        I guess I just like French names that begin with G.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Thank you, Niles Crane.

      • Mojeaux

        Mmmm, I should have specified FEMALE French names that begin with G.

        I like neither Guy nor Gaston.

  63. The Late P Brooks

    “Secret” cabal. We’re just so much dirt on the ground.

    Something something shocked. SHOCKED, i say.

  64. Count Potato

    “Body of millionaire tech entrepreneur, 33, is found decapitated and dismembered next to electrical saw in his luxury Manhattan apartment after footage showed him sharing elevator with professional killer

    Police believe they have surveillance footage of the suspect entering the building on Monday and then using the elevator.

    Video reportedly shows the gloved suspect wearing a hat and mask covering his face, and carrying a bag. He waited to enter the elevator with Saleh.

    ‘The perp had a suitcase. He was very professional,’ one police source told the Daily News.

    Sources told the New York Post that as the pair rode up to the seventh floor apartment together, Saleh appeared puzzled.

    No sooner had he stepped out of the elevator – which opened directly into his home – the attack began.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8524023/Decapitated-dismembered-body-man-34-luxury-Manhattan-apartment-block.html

    Good thing he was wearing a mask.

    • Not Adahn

      Do professional killers usually cut up bodies and leave the pieces behind?

      • ChipsnSalsa

        It costs extra I’m sure but, the customer gets what the customer wants.

      • EvilSheldon

        It’s not unheard of. From the article, it sounds like the triggerman was interrupted mid-disposal. Probably panicked and bailed on the rest of the cleanup.

    • creech

      Never having lived in a NY apartment, I don’t see how an elevator can open directly into someone’s home. Even if you had to punch a code to open the door, anyone in the elevator can apparently push their way directly into your home?

  65. DEG

    No more shopping at Wal-Mart

    From the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, our focus and priority has been and continues to be on the health and safety of our associates, members and customers.

    As the number of confirmed cases has spiked in communities across the country recently, so too have the number and types of face covering mandates being implemented. Currently about 65 percent of our more than 5,000 stores and clubs are located in areas where there is some form of government mandate on face coverings. To help bring consistency across stores and clubs, we will require all shoppers to wear a face covering starting Monday, July 20. This will give us time to inform customers and members of the changes, post signage and train associates on the new protocols.

    • kinnath

      Their store; their rules.

      But I can shop other places.

      • DEG

        Yep. I will shop elsewhere.

    • Mojeaux

      I just decided to suck it up. The counties and cities have mandated it. There’s no getting around it. I’ve got bigger things to worry about.

      • Urthona

        Yes.

        I suspect the recent correlative studies that say mask wearing reduces spread are mostly nonsense because states that implemented them did so in the midst of peak covid.

        But we will see. In my own state of Texas we’ve had mask wearing implemented and cases are going up at the same rate as ever. But we will see after a few more weeks.

  66. Don Escaped both Landslides

    but enough about Bari Weiss

    There are some fundamental mistakes in this article, but he articulates several points about Weiss that exhaust me and have consistently led me to just turn off Fifth Column pretty much every time she’s on.

    Not incidentally, hypocrisy is also a central criticism of Weiss. She denounces cancel culture, builds up cancel culture opponents as heroes and martyrs, and tries to cancel people whose expressions she deems antisemitic. And her definition of antisemitic includes things that others would classify as criticism of Israeli government policy rather than bigotry against Jews.

    Philosopher Judith Butler . . . while reviewing Weiss’s book How to Fight Anti-Semitism. . . discusses Weiss’s emphasis on “opposition to identity politics,” snarkily adding “which presumably excludes Jewish identity politics.”

    I’m anti-antisemitism! but I’m tired of Weiss

    • Not Adahn

      Because a person’s home and a place of employment are identical and the same rules governing behavior apply to each. Obviously.

      • Don Escaped both Landslides

        right

        and I also wasn’t there and do not presume to judge that incident

        but I will say that in my private life I encourage opposing views presented in good faith; if someone shuts down a private conversation because the opponent doesn’t argue in good faith, I wouldn’t criticize that choice.

        Good Faith might be a worthy Glib topic some time, especially in these times when buzz words like “science” are thought to be debate enders instead of the question provokers they are.

    • Viking1865

      “her definition of antisemitic includes things that others would classify as criticism of Israeli government policy rather than bigotry against Jews.”

      The problem is that Israel get’s criticized for things that no other country gets criticized for.

      If Luxembourg was lobbing rockets into France, sponsoring suicide bombers, raiding across the border and murdering French citizens, no one would criticize the French for retaliating militarily, for building walls, for spying on the leaders of Luxembourg, for refusing to negotiate with them until they stopped waging war against France.

    • juris imprudent

      And since this should be a dead thread momentarily, I’ll say it: bitch had it coming.

  67. The Late P Brooks

    Sources told the New York Post that as the pair rode up to the seventh floor apartment together, Saleh appeared puzzled.

    No sooner had he stepped out of the elevator – which opened directly into his home – the attack began.

    “Candygram”