Monday Afternoon SugarLinks – Musical Accompaniment edition

by | Aug 31, 2020 | Daily Links | 333 comments

 

So, last night at the MTV Music Video Awards… wait, no, I can’t even pretend to give a shit about that nonsense. A Korean boy band sang in Engrish! Don’t give a shit. Lady Gaga wore a bunch of different face masks and begged for attention. Told us wearing a mask was about “respect.” Respect is earned, skank. I hope a COVID zombie coughs snot right into your eyes, drag queen. No link. Not linking to that drivel.


I don’t think this is what Lazarus Long had in mind:

Massachusetts mom and son are arrested for incest

A Massachusetts mom and son pair have been charged with incest and could land in prison for up to 20 years, Mass Live reports.

The alleged licentious wickedness took place at the Fitchburg, Massachusetts, home Tony L. Lavoie’s shared with his wife and 63-year-old mother, Cheryl Lavoie.

It was the wife who caught her 43-year-old husband and mother-in-law in flagrante delicto on the living room couch on May 20.

Shocked by the mom-son incest, the wife called 911 and summoned Massachusetts police.

“licentious wickedness” Nice neutral language there. Blah blah shouldn’t be a crime among consenting adults blah.

If you read further, you’ll find that Mom was riding him cowgirl style! Ye-haw!


Hey, kids! The secret word for the day is “accosted.”

Beach Karenmon, not one of the rarest Karenmon, but worth collecting anyway if you want the bonus for a full class set.


And your music link:

Think about it.

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333 Comments

  1. DEG

    The alleged licentious wickedness took place at the Fitchburg, Massachusetts, home Tony L. Lavoie’s shared with his wife and 63-year-old mother, Cheryl Lavoie.

    Fitchburg. Huh.

    • Timeloose

      I listened to Jim Norton and team on XM radio go on about this incest case for about 30 minutes. I started to laugh way too much while driving.

      • Timeloose

        They kept comparing the mom to Devito’s Penguin in Batman.

      • Ted S.

        This makes me imagine Devito and Anne Ramsey having incestuous relations in Throw Momma From the Train.

    • Bobarian LMD

      If you read further, you’ll find that Mom was riding him cowgirl style!

      If that was my Mom, I’d have to insist on Reverse Cowgirl.

      Or a couple of paper bags.

      • SugarFree

        Your mother raised you, don’t you think that deserves eye contact?

      • Bobarian LMD

        Maybe one eye-hole for the paper bag.

      • zwak

        No eye contact in the Glory Whole!

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Incest is Best. It’s the game the whole family can play!

      • Fourscore

        Family that plays together stays together, it has been said

  2. KibbledKristen

    Collect them all!!

  3. leon

    20 Years for Incest? But 5 Years for Arson?

    • The Other Kevin

      You misspelled “0”.

  4. Yusef drives a Kia

    Authentic Gibberish! my favorite!
    Tall Cans!

  5. DEG

    While on the phone with a 911 operator her hateful speech continues as she constantly calls the woman of color an “African” using a condescending tone and goes on to ask why “you people are so violent.”

    I was tempted to say “shit that didn’t happen”, except there is a video.

    • Ted S.

      Apparently that story is from Manhattan Beach. Was that Playa and his family?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Crazy person exists.

      Therefore America is racist country.

      • Rhywun

        It’s the hot new trend in “journalism”.

        Trumpet extremely rare event A to “prove” desired outcome B.

      • Akira

        Meanwhile, if you bring up the frequent violence and property damage occurring during the riots, it will be dismissed with an assurance that they are “mostly peaceful”.

      • B.P.

        Don’t forget to sprinkle around a little “In Trump’s America…”, “Trump has emboldened racists…”, “Trump’s divisive rhetoric…”, etc.

  6. KibbledKristen

    Has anyone told Biden what the Dem policies even are?

    • Drake

      Why bother?

      • KibbledKristen

        It’s going to be hilarious come debate time

      • B.P.

        Someone needs to preload Trump with a bunch of numeric facts to spew during the debate, because it’s clear Biden has no idea how to articulate a number anymore. It’d be like rolling a bunch of ball bearings under his feet.

        “May I have 10,000 marbles please?”

      • KibbledKristen

        No way I’m opening that

      • whiz

        I took the plunge. 92 pages! I perused the TOC and stopped.

      • Donation Not Taxation

        ‘ I perused the TOC and stopped.’

        Take two pages Road to Serfdom. Call doctor if not recovered by morning.

      • Donation Not Taxation

        This stuff they admit…

      • blackjack

        People told me I was crazy back in the early nineties. Just use the hyphenated descriptors, it’ll make these people feel better. Yeah the government is lying about cigarettes, dolphins, pitbulls, second hand smoke, terrorists, gangs, global warming,drugs and whatever else, but it’s for our own good. We bitched and bitched about redefining language and doublespeak, but nobody listened.

        Now, we’re in the information age with a fucking superhighway for it and everything, and the truth is as obscure as I could ever imagine it being. People discard facts willy-nilly and substitute whatever matches the latest talking points from their political parties. Any semblance of shame for lying is so long gone, a is b and the sky is red. That is the best example of doublespeak I’ve seen, “the information age.” I’ve been debating and arguing principles my whole life, I’ve never seen such a level of ignorance and outright deception as is normal today. Never. America could easily follow the path of the Nazis or the Soviets right now. People are that brainwashed. This platform is all the proof anyone would ever need of that. There’s more people subscribing to that party than any other in America.

    • Rhywun

      Has anyone told him what year it is?

      • Donation Not Taxation

        ‘Has anyone told him what year it is?’

        A year where people not in sitcoms say ‘malarkey’ ?

      • Certified Public Asshat

        It hasn’t been this year in the past hundred years.

      • Lackadaisical

        You could write his speeches.

  7. DEG

    Philly mayor dines indoors in Maryland

    A photo of Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney eating indoors in Maryland has sparked some criticism on Sunday night, as the COVID-19 outbreak has forced some city businesses to close and others struggling to stay afloat with outdoor dining.

    The mayor’s office confirmed that he went to a friend’s restaurant on Sunday. The picture has since gone viral because Kenney has staunchly stood by his decision to not allow restaurants in the city to open for indoor dining.

    “We need to follow what we are being asked to do by the health department,” Kenney said earlier this month while announcing new upcoming restrictions on indoor dining. “I beg you to follow the rules.”

    On Sunday night, the mayor’s office defended the photo, releasing this statement:

    “The mayor went to Maryland earlier today to patronize a restaurant owned by a friend of his. For what it’s worth, he also went to Rouge to enjoy outdoor dining in Philly on the way home. He looks forward to expanding indoor dining locally next week.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Tar and feathers. Top.Men. don’t think their own rules apply to them. Caesar’s wife had that shit figured out.

      • commodious spittoon

        Tar and feathers? You’re much too kind. The only reason it’s not lampposts and jeering mobs is that there’s a countermob bound to form vehemently demanding lockdowns forever.

    • Rhywun

      Deblasio said today “no indoor dining until there is a vaccine”. And in “news to me”, the current plan was targeting June 2021 (!).

      • blackjack

        Our badassed neighborhood bar, with live music every weekend, just announced they are permanently closed. Stolen from us by the government.

    • Idle Hands

      these people are fucking shameless and despicable tyrants.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Awesome!

  8. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Solid music links and excellent Audible book selection at the end.

    And I didn’t even puke once!

    Sugarfree is the best!

  9. The Other Kevin

    Thanks for bringing the Dead Milkmen back into my memory. Loved that band.

    • SugarFree

      I had those first two albums on vinyl because that was the only format I could find them on. Made cassettes for the car. Lost the albums along the way. Probably someone borrowed them and didn’t give them back. People are jerks.

      • The Other Kevin

        That’s a sad story. I had bootleg tapes, but I remember watching the videos on MTV, back when MTV had videos.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Well, you’ll dance to anything.

  10. DEG

    Massachusetts governor activated the National Guard last Friday

    Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker signed an order on Friday obtained by ABC News, activating up to 1,000 National Guard members in the state.

    The Republican governor did not cite a specific reason for signing the order.

    The activation began on Friday and will continue until “further order” of the state’s senior National Guard officer, according to the statement.

    The deployment is to “provide necessary assistance to State and local civilian authorities and/or special duty and emergency assistance for the preservation of life and property, preservation of order, and to afford protection to persons,” the order says.

    Today’s update, still no word on why. Scuttlebutt on a facebook group I’m on is that the activation was due to an upcoming BLM protest.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I thought it was to suppress the impending wave of criminal incest.

    • Ted S.

      Baker isn’t having the National Guard enforce the mask mandates?

    • Drake

      Too early for the mandatory vaccines.

    • SugarFree

      Labor Day Lobster Roll Riots.

      • Count Potato

        I saw Lobster Roll Riot open for Licentious Cowgirl.

      • KibbledKristen

        I can think of nothing more noble than to riot for lobstah rolls

      • SugarFree

        The really sad part is most of the violence was over split-top or hot dog roll.

      • Drake

        Everyone from New England knows proper lobster and hot dog buns are split on the top.

      • Gustave Lytton

        That is. Who used side split rolls for lobster, unless they’re in a barren wasteland without the option?

      • KibbledKristen

        You’re either a Split Topper or you’re a Nazi fascist commie pig.

      • grrizzly

        In the 19th century prisoners in Massachusetts petitioned the government to stop feeding them lobster all the time. Back then lobster was poor people’s food. To this day there’s a Mass. law that limits the number of times prisoners can get lobster each week.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’m with you. I’ve flown to Boston to eat a lobster roll. Rioting is the least one could do.

      • Drake

        Somebody planning a wicked pissa kegga this weekend that they have to break up?

    • R C Dean

      Could be to deploy to other states. A bunch of AZ NatGuard went to Wisconsin.

    • tarran

      I think I might have encountered part of the mobilization on Saturday; I was driving into Boston. Getting on the pike, the on ramp spit me out in the middle of a bunch of nondescript trucks pulling nondescript trailers. I was able to find a space between two trucks before I ran out of entrance lane. The drivers of the trucks were not happy to have their convoy broken up, and closed up ranks as soon as they could. All the trailers had MA state govt license plates.

      The trucks themselves had huge storage bins (looked to be about 120 gallons of capacity) stacked on their beds. I’d estimate each truck had about 20 of those bins. I saw at least four trucks.

      My guess is that they are prepositioning equipment for a future riot. BTW, the state primary election is tomorrow…

      • The Other Kevin

        Late last week Mrs. TOK was in Wisconsin and saw a convoy headed toward Kenosha, but it was more obvious. Several military vehicles on trailers, and blue buses full of guys in uniform.

    • KSuellington

      Probably in case the peaceful protests intensify.

  11. DEG

    MA families protest flu vaccine mandate

    Hundreds of parents, children, educators and public health workers rallied at the Massachusetts State House Sunday morning, standing in solidarity against the flu vaccine mandate announced by the Department of Public Health earlier this month.

    This demonstration, hosted by No Mandatory Flu Shot MA and Oppose Overreach – Health Choice 4 Action MA, aimed to protect a parent’s right to choose whether or not their child should receive an influenza vaccination to attend school.

    Attendees lined Beacon Street in Boston, holding signs advocating, “My child, my choice,” among other statements condemning Gov. Charlie Baker and other state officials for the push to make the student flu shot permanent.

    The protesters demanded Baker rescind the mandate.

    • R C Dean

      I think we now know why the Gov. is calling out the National Guard.

    • Rhywun

      Sneak preview of the ‘vid mandates to come.

      ?

  12. Count Potato

    ““My environment has been harmed by this African Black person,” she says. ”

    Was she African, or did Karen want people to be sure she wasn’t placed in a harmful environment by Charlize Theron?

  13. Timeloose

    Great music selection today. Makes me want to get my Vision Psycho Stick out fall and hurt my 14 year old self.

  14. Drake

    My favorite Lady Gaga performance.

  15. The Other Kevin

    I have been avoiding any Biden speeches. But watching that, how can anyone seriously say he’s not having some kind of cognitive issues? That’s just painful to watch.

    • Count Potato

      What amazes me out of the 37 people running in the primaries, he was the best choice?

      • Sean

        “Most electable.”

      • Bobarian LMD

        “Least detestable.”

        Toe May Toe
        Toe Mah Toe

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        Undetectable.

    • Drake

      It would be dirty, but the Trump campaign could just run random videos of Biden from back in the day.

  16. KibbledKristen

    For claypool in the ded thred: I used to go to Gravelly a lot, in the Before Times when air traffic was a thing. I have been known to livestream from there for Big gJet TV’s Facederrp group once in a while (again, in the Before Times)

    • Claypoolsreservoir

      Nice! I haven’t been since 2014.

  17. Donation Not Taxation

    ‘The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of virus, or viral load, in the sample. The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious. This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are. In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.’

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

    • KibbledKristen

      Tellin ya, even if my office opens anytime soon, I ain’t going anywhere near that shithole til these freaks calm the fuck down

      • Donation Not Taxation

        Consider message told.

  18. Count Potato

    “What?”

    He’s not even right. 1968 was in the last 100 years.

    • SugarFree

      Fact check: TRUE

      COVID-19, a virus discovered in 2019, has killed more people in 2020 than it did any year in the last 100 years.

      • Gadfly

        Damn good fact-checking there. Are you a pro? If not, you’re leaving money on the table.

  19. Apples and Knives

    Milkmen AND Kennedys! Long live the Dead!

  20. Rhywun

    “Why is BET stealing our schtick?”

    /NY Post

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Notice that black is Capitalized and bolded throughout the article?

      • Rhywun

        No, I didn’t notice but it’s the new style now in a lot of the media. It’s the written equivalent of screaming at diners to raise their fist or else.

  21. tarran

    My ex-wife told our daughter that she’s contemplating moving to another country across the Atlantic if Trump is reelected. Given that I have primary physical custody, and that she will have to expend close to $60,000 and spend 1.5 years in litigation to even have a chance of getting international removal granted by the local probate court, her moving out of the country would almost certainly mean my ex would be leaving the country without the kids.

    Guys, I need you to all vote for Trump. It’s for my children. 😉

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Finally, a good reason to vote Trump that isn’t just voting against batshit crazy.

      Oh wait…

    • KibbledKristen

      Best reason I’ve heard yet!

    • Viking1865

      Is she skilled? Because one of the most adorable things on the Internet is when some American retail worker Bernie bro discovers that Europe doesn’t just let people in because Orange Man Bad.

      • Apples and Knives

        I hear Liberia has warm winters.

      • tarran

        Thoroughly unskilled. If she would only apply herself to gaining skills, with 1/10th the effort she puts into looking for the easy way out or shortcuts, she would have been great at something.

        Her husband is a native of that country, and he’s pining for the nationalized health care, I think.

    • grrizzly

      Across the Atlantic? Not just to Canada? Impressive.

    • R C Dean

      Somalia is across the Atlantic. Is she a closet libertartian?

      • tarran

        Ha! Truth be told, she is convinced that I became a libertarian to stick it to her parents (dad is retired from USPS, mom is middle-management in OSHA).

        Her political views seem to boil down to “what’s in it for me?”.

    • leon

      The first moral reason to vote for Trump.

    • Bobarian LMD

      Is she moving to the US?

      Sounds to me like we don’t want her.

    • KSuellington

      Alright you convinced me, I’m changing my vote from Kanye to Trump.

      It looks like she has a way to move unlike the mass amount of idiots that claim they’ll move to Europe and Canada whenever Team Red looks to win. Not surprising that almost none do. It’s hard to become a legal resident there if you don’t have a passport or are married to a National there. I lived in the NL for 2.5 years under my Irish passport. When I went to get my work permit from the foreign police they told me very directly not to expect to get any welfare as it wasn’t happening (not that I would be taking it anyways).

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        For this reason I urge everyone to try to work overseas for at least a short period of time. It’s an eye opening experience.

      • KSuellington

        Yup, and get that paycheck and see what it looks like post tax as well.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        In my experience in Central Europe, you don’t really see how much is taken out in taxes. Everyone thinks of their salary as net salary, and therefore they convince themselves that all that government stuff is free. I hate filling out taxes here, but at least the pain of it reminds people that they are paying taxes.

  22. whiz

    From the incest article: Asked if her son suffered from any mental illness, she said she was not sure but revealed he did fall off a ladder at one point in his life.

    • leon

      When he was a baby.

    • leon

      I’m forgetful, did they up the charge to Murder 1 or Murder 2?

      • Drake

        They’re going the other direction now.

      • Chafed

        Murder 2 and 3 as well as some version of manslaughter.

    • Gustave Lytton

      He didn’t die of an overdose. What the ME said was IF he had been found with no other contributing causes, it would have been due to drugs. However, there were other contributing causes to Floyd’s death and the final conclusion was that he was dead due to homicide, which was the same result of the review by the outside ME (Armed Forces ME).

      • Drake

        But his blood toxicity was off the charts and his lungs were fucked from the drugs – his lawyers will argue.

        Maybe they’ll get manslaughter.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Sure, there’s definitely enough to raise doubt in a trial, along with a deference for police control techniques. His attorney should be fired if they can’t get an expect in use of force to testify it was entirely warranted.

        I agree. Manslaughter at best, and better than even chance he walks entirely. The other three are even more likely to be acquitted, unless one pleads just to get it over with.

      • Gustave Lytton

        And unless there’s some new bombshell at the trial, either rehired or a settlement for a wrongful discharge claim.

      • Deplorableme

        If “beyond a reasonable doubt” applies here, I can’t see 12 people voting guilty, even with a manslaughter charge unless his lawyer is really bad.

      • commodious spittoon

        The BLM mobs will make a compelling argument not to acquit.

    • grrizzly

      Glibertarian.

      • Bobarian LMD

        You might be guilty of unironically saying “Donald Trump is the most libertarian president ever”.

        I said it first.

      • blackjack

        Same, Glibertarian.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Glibertarian

    • Count Potato

      “Your Result:
      Glibertarian”

    • Rhywun

      Nag nag nag. Fine.

      “One True Libertarian”

    • Certified Public Asshat

      How are you even supposed to answer the vacation question?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Alaska

      • leon

        ^^^ Glibs know that you are supposed to want to be away from people.

      • Rhywun

        I answered “New York City” just to fuck with leon.

        OTOH, I misread Teddy as Franklin Delano so ?‍♂️.

      • Rhywun

        Or, “you”. 🙂

      • UnCivilServant

        Just as long as you don’t confuse them with my coworker Roosevelt, who’s a decent guy and and actually responds to my emails.

      • leon

        The one Tru lib knows that Teddy started all the progressive shit.

      • Plisade

        Cuba. The coastal burbs sound fun. And cuz (((they))) won’t let me go.

      • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

        I said “Yellowknife” because I’ve been there and it’s actually a cool place. Plus I saw one of the most beautiful women I’ve ever seen in my life working for one of the regional airlines last time I was in the ‘Knife’s airport. Hubba hubba.

        Hubba.

      • KibbledKristen

        LOL

    • Donation Not Taxation

      Glibertarians should start political party. Everyone 66% Glibertarian.

      And, business is misspelled in at ast one question.

    • The Other Kevin

      Glibertarian.

    • Trolleric the Goth

      another Glib here ?

    • Chipwooder

      Glibertarian….so I’m in the right place, I suppose?

    • C. Anacreon

      Glibertarian.

    • westernsloper

      No offense leon but your choices of vacation spots sucks sweaty balls.

      • leon

        Dont blame me blame the libertarian steryotypes

      • UnCivilServant

        We’re going to blame you for relying on and sticking to stereotypes.

        You made that choice.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I didn’t see Mogadishu on the list.

      • leon

        Hmmm.. who should that be? One True Lib?

      • westernsloper

        The ocean my man, the ocean. Sailing on ones own seastead.

        Out of your choices I chose Cuba because I have seen it from a distance and am told many parts are like the FL Keys. Mangroves and great fishing. If it wasn’t a Communist shit hole I would love to go there. I have nothing against shit holes mind you, I just hate fucking communists.

    • Grumbletarian

      Glibertarian

    • This Machine

      Hardest question was having to decide between Wilson and FDR for worst president of the 20th century

    • Roland of Gilead

      Nope. Showstopping curves.

      • C. Anacreon

        Hips like gunnysacks of nickles.

    • Bobarian LMD

      Looks like she fucks her son in MA?

    • SugarFree

      Eh. I’m pretty sure there was plenty more food in the car.

    • CatchTheCarp

      A carload of Trigglypuff ‘s…..

    • B.P.

      *Yakety Sax*

  23. Count Potato

    “New video shows Portland SWAT teams kicking volunteer medic’s first aid kit away from Patriot Prayer supporter as he lay dying in the street after being shot”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8682399/Portland-SWAT-team-kicked-volunteer-medics-aid-kit-away-dying-Patriot-Prayer-member.html

    “PICTURED: Portland antifa protester, 48, who is ‘under investigation’ for shooting of Patriot Prayer Trump supporter after being turned over to the police by his own sister

    The man under investigation for shooting dead a Trump supporter and right-wing activist in Portland on Saturday night is a 48-year-old father-of-two whose own family turned him in to police after spotting him in videos from the night of violence.

    Michael Forest Reinoehl, 48, was identified by anonymous police sources cited by The Oregonian. His estranged sister said she received a phone call threatening that their family would be in danger unless they turned him in to police. She then looked online and saw photographs of her brother circulating.

    The 48-year-old has a long arrest record. He has been attending protests in Portland since May and sharing photos and videos from them including this one (left). He describes himself online as ‘100% ANTIFA’. He has not been arrested or charged”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8682225/PICTURED-Portland-ANTIFA-48-investigation-shooting.html

    • KibbledKristen

      Word is he’s a snowboarding instructor. Which is probably the whitest sport on Earth.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Snowboarders are about third on my list for the line going into the woodchipper.

      • KibbledKristen

        Agreed

      • westernsloper

        *hits Bobarian and Kristen in the head with his snowboard

      • db

        Snowboarders are mostly hired goons working for Sno-Cat and Bombardier. They’d have way less business without those jerks scraping all the snow to the bottom of the mountain.

      • Mad Scientist

        The one nice thing about snow boarding is that it’s about 10,000% better than skiing.

      • B.P.

        It’s fun watching y’all try to navigate flat spots. Independent suspension is a nice thing to have.

      • Mad Scientist

        If your mountain is flat you have bigger problems than snow boarders.

      • westernsloper

        The Mad Scientist off the top rope!

      • B.P.

        Colorado here. I do have to get on a lift occasionally.

      • The Hyperbole

        I don’t remember not knowing how to ski, but I never got the snowboarder hate. I will say that skiers “look” much cooler blasting down mogul runs than snowboarders, I may give the boarders the edge on long cruiser runs but only because nobody skis properly anymore, parabolic skis are evil.

      • Mad Scientist

        I say, young man, this new fangled invention of yours is a mere flash in the pan! My velocipede has always propelled me hither and sundry, and no further improvements need be made!

      • The Hyperbole

        Damn skippy, give me a pair of 208 Olin Mark IV’s, you can keep your stubby little Demi Rose skis, I’ll gracefully and majestically glide past you rental racers with your feet sixteen inches apart, your ass up in the air and your poles tucked into your armpits.

      • whahappan

        Look at my avatar and despair!

      • KibbledKristen

        This – stop scraping the snow, dammit!

        Also, your pants are ridiculous.

      • westernsloper

        C’mon now. Ski’s scrape snow too. That is what they are designed to do. And Christ, some of us started snow boarding in 1985 way before it was cool. You and I have had face to face conversations even if it was over the Zoomarino and do you think I actually have my pants half way down my ass?*

        *Only when I forget a belt which happens because I am old and forgetful.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        He looks like he likes the white powder and by that I mean meth.

      • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

        Huh. I wonder if he and Justin Trudeau ever crossed paths, since that was the most-honest job Justin ever had before becoming an MP and then PM.

        ‘Scuse me, I have to go barf now.

    • KSuellington

      Interesting that the 4channers got that right within hours. Almost makes you think what would happen to crime if we privatized more police services.

    • leon

      The 48-year-old has a long arrest record. He has been attending protests in Portland since May and sharing photos and videos from them including this one (left). He describes himself online as ‘100% ANTIFA’. He has not been arrested or charged”

      Have vidoe of you executing someone? Get to walk while cops investigate.

      Have video of you running, getting beaten on the ground and defending yourself? Charged with 1st Degree Murder within 24 hours.

      • The Other Kevin

        It used to be we had separate systems of justice if you were black or white. Now we have separate systems of justice if you’re red or blue. That’s not an improvement.

      • Raven Nation

        Devil’s Advocate: different states.

    • cyto

      On the list of things not being shown on NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, PBS, MSNBC….

    • Not an Economist

      I don’t mind the police not letting the volunteer medic help. They don’t know her training and I’m betting they all know far more than her on gunshot wounds. Depending on what the injury is, if you don’t know what you are doing you can do more harm than good.

      • Mad Scientist

        That’s not what Charles Leale told me!

      • Broswater

        Agreed with that. I don’t have the link but I recall seeing some videos of those BLM ”medic” and uh… untrained is the best I will say. They were acting as if a guy that had a bruise on his leg was about to freaking die and were applying a tourniquet on his leg.

        Her twitter bio says :”I am a tired college student and aspiring model with a lot of things to say. Black Lives Matter. No Justice? No Peace”, doesn’t sound like paramedic or EMT technician at all to me.

        These people are LARPing full time.

      • This Machine

        Applying a tourniquet *incorrectly*, I might add.

        Absolutely agree that these amateur volunteer medics are almost entirely total clowns who wouldn’t know the first thing about how to treat a serious hemorrhage or a sucking chest wound – the two most common preventable causes of traumatic death in combat.

      • Spudalicious

        Nor do they know what’s in that bag she’s reaching for.

      • Mad Scientist

        Essential oils, crystals, dream catchers, and dogeared copy of The Secret.

    • whiz

      That almost gave me an aneurysm.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        You can’t make shit like this up, I love it!

    • B.P.

      CBS News: “Democratic nominee Joe Biden is traveling to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on Monday, to condemn recent violence in American cities — and point out that it’s all happening on President Trump’s watch.”

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Encourage your erstwhile surrogates to riot with a wink and a nod and condemn your rival while the media carries your water. I don’t know if they’ll manage to flip to that script but they sure are trying.

  24. cyto

    Wanna see what carrying water looks Like?

    Head on over to CNN and marvel. The Biden campaign would be embarrassed to put that much nonsense on the landing page.

    Best of all… we witnessed a bunch of Antifa/BLM types chase down and murder a Trump supporter… and they have only one article about it, titled “what we know about Portland protest shooting”

    90%of the article is an attempt to paint trump supporters as violent interloper who came to Portland and attacked peaceful protesters unprovoked.

    Then they talk about the shooting. No talk of a crowd chasing him down or calling in others to help assault him. No, but we know that he is a far right wing extremist who attacked the peaceful protesters with mace. Nobody knows where the shot came from though.

    Astonishing, particularly in light of how quickly they moved to label the Wisconsin shooter a tight wing extremist who was hunting peaceful protesters.

    • cyto

      Justin Dunlap, who witnessed the shooting and captured some of it on his Facebook live stream, said he “didn’t hear much lead up to it.”
      “I heard like three seconds of yelling and saw a guy spray bear mace,” Dunlap told CNN. “The victim sprayed mace and launched it right into the other guy.”

      • cyto

        Wow… that was quick.

        Cnn must be getting bad feedback. They put up a whole new top block in the 10 minutes since I looked last. Now the entire top block is covid and Trump botching covid response.

    • Rhywun

      Head on over to CNN and marvel.

      Wow.

      I love how they managed to label one of the links as “Opinion” ← LOL

    • RAHeinlein

      CNBC said “violence erupted between Trump supporters and counter-protesters”

      • cyto

        CNN opened coverage…

        “A man was shot at Portland protests, Portland mayor says Trump shoulders much of the blame”

        A man was shot…. just randomly a man was shot. No mention of why. No mention of video of crowd chasing him down and man executing him. No mention of shooter being affiliated with Antifa. None of that.

        Also, still no mention that “Wisconsin shot in the arm guy” was Antifa and had a handgun and pointed it at him and said he intended to kill him. That dude, who was illegally in possession of a firearm and who admits to his intention to commit murder…. not charged as of this moment. The guy who is documented to have shot in self defense? Charged with murder 1.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Just remember that they hate us and they want us dead, us being anybody that isn’t them.

    • Grumbletarian

      “In Kenosha, WI, a right-wing teenager mercilessly hunts down and kills three innocent peaceful protestors in cold blood with an AR-15 military assault-style deathblaster.”

      “In Portland, OR, three months of mostly peaceful protests were disrupted when a violent far-right activist provacateur was mysteriously found with dead from a bullet wound.”

      /MSM

    • SugarFree

      I went to your schools, I went to your churches, I went to your institutional learning facilities and you want to OK, Gen X’er me?!?

      • Chipwooder

        All I wanted was a Pepsi, and she wouldn’t give it to me…..because she knew that Pepsi is swill.

      • UnCivilServant

        Pepsi?

        *backs away slowly*

      • Gdragon

        Mary Woronov is probably still a “would” even now, that is if the COVID hasn’t gotten her.

      • C. Anacreon

        +1 plugged-in tv set thrown into hot tub full of swingers

  25. Donation Not Taxation

    Would medical Glibs comment (without Left-Right spins affecting most media types) about these:

    ‘For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death’
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

    ‘The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of virus, or viral load, in the sample. The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious. This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are. In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.’

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

    • Bobarian LMD

      It means we didn’t shut down hard enough!

      — This Is CNN —

    • LJW

      I take it as either people with pre-existing conditions are pushed over the edge when they get Covid, or people who were already on their way out were improperly listed as CV-19 deaths. I think it’s a mix of both. But I’m not a scientist…

      • robc

        This. Some died of covid because of other condition. Some died of other condition with covid.

    • cyto

      I saw that. Pretty amazing that people are walking around with 1.6 co-morbidities.

      Here’s the probable answer:

      95% of deaths are over 55 years old. People over 55 have lots of diseases. (The day I read that was my 55th birthday. I was so happy to learn that.)

      • Donation Not Taxation

        Even if not at risk, could spread to others who are … Oh, wait…

        ‘The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious.’

        ‘ up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus,’

      • Drake

        I’ve given up explaining to my mother why I’m not worried about my 19-year-old socializing.

    • C. Anacreon

      It certainly refutes the current Karen dogma you’ll see on Facebook and NextDoor that anyone stepping outside without a mask will die (and deservedly so).

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        Not before killing grandma.

    • Claypoolsreservoir

      We’ve known since day one it affected old people with diabetes, high blood pressure, and obesity the worst. What’s hard to parse is the covid caused symptoms and the chronic symptoms. I went through some of the data trying to parse out caused by comorbidites and chronic comorbidities and it was impossible. They have separated all the comorbitities so the deaths with multiple comorbidities overlap. It’s a crap shoot. And it’s rife with causation VS correlation errors. In general, given how much the elderly population is affected, and how often they have many underlying conditions, it’s probably a pretty accurate statistic. Albeit likely some what’s misleading. But it’s really not anything different from the what we’ve heard from the onset. Older, unhealthy people die. Some seemingly healthy people might be die. And young people dont die on a scale that is at all worrisome.

      • Donation Not Taxation

        Thanks.

      • Donation Not Taxation

        Claypoolsreservoir, what about contagiousness quotation?

  26. westernsloper

    Was that whole beach karen thing over a bump while jogging or a mask issue? I am thinking staged. Nobody is that stupid.

  27. Donation Not Taxation

    What about the other 18 before COVID-19?

    ‘COVID has taken this year, just since the outbreak, has taken more than 100 year — look, here, the lives — it’s just — it’s a, I mean, you think about it.
    More lives this year than any other year for the past hundred years.’

    • UnCivilServant

      19 is not an iterator, it’s short for 2019, the year in which it was first described.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.

      • Donation Not Taxation

        The ‘What about the other 18 before COVID-19?’ reference previous celebrity rant. Provided citation.

      • Rhywun

        There are seven types of coronaviruses that effect humans, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

        “The NY Daily News thinks it knows how to spell ‘affect’.”

      • Mad Scientist

        Hey, go easy on the journalists. It’s not like they’ve studied language or writing.

      • Donation Not Taxation

        ‘Hey, go easy on the journalists. It’s not like they’ve studied language or writing.’

      • Gender Traitor

        Dammit! We ARE turning into an echo chamber!

  28. Donation Not Taxation

    Capita to close offices, but not its HEAD-quarters…

    ‘Capita will shut up to 100 offices: Devastating blow to PM’s campaign to get Britain back to workplaces as top government contractor with 45,000 staff plans massive shift to permanent home working

    Capita collects the BBC licence fee and runs the London congestion charge
    Closures make Capita first major British firm to pull out of city and town centres
    Increasing number of companies look at a permanent shift to flexible working

    By Jamie Nimmo City Correspondent For The Mail On Sunday

    Published: 18:05 EDT, 29 August 2020 | Updated: 18:54 EDT, 29 August 2020’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8677655/Capita-shut-100-offices-devastating-blow-PMs-campaign.html

    • Gustave Lytton

      45,000 staff

      runs the London congestion charge

      Closures make Capita first major British firm to pull out of city and town centres

      ?‍♂️

      So the parasite feasting off of congestion charges was directly contributing to congestion? Seems fitting.

      • Donation Not Taxation

        ‘Seems fitting.’
        For once.

  29. mikey

    Just drove by our elementary school playground during recess. Kids running around, tusseling, swinging, talking in groups. Not a mask in sight and no “Social Distancing. The Old Normal.
    All things considered, a good place to be In These Uncertain Times.

    • cyto

      Wow. Where is that? New Zealand?

      We are talking about re-evaluating after the holiday. Maybe open by mid-September

    • LemonGrenade

      I just got the biggest stab of jealousy, my vision was tinged green. Also, where are you?

      • mikey

        Small cow town in west/central Montana. If we don’t make the 35 mile drive to the state capitol it could almost be 2019. Or may be 1957.

      • LemonGrenade

        We were in Montana over the summer. You’ve got a nice state, there. Hope it stays that way.

    • KSuellington

      I just removed my three kids from their elementary school last Wednesday because the schools haven’t been allowed to start here. 95% of people walking around wearing masks outside. It’s extremely disheartening. I keep thinking we should move up your way. Fuck this state.

    • B.P.

      I live in a big city, and my kid has been playing in a 12-under baseball league since May, with tournaments sprinkled in. Outside of a few parents wearing masks here and there, nothing is different from a normal year of baseball.

      • KSuellington

        I was coaching our middle son’s baseball team this year and we got one practice in before they cancelled the season. Lame.

      • KSuellington

        At least glad there are still some pockets of normality.

      • Chipwooder

        My daughter’s softball league added some silly rules about having only 4 girls on the bench at once and the rest had to be out in the bleachers, but other than that it was a normal season. Some parents were wearing masks at the field in the beginning on the season but by last weekend, when it ended, no one was.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        just got back from my 3yo daughter’s first soccer practice. No masks, but social distancing meant that it was her and me kicking the ball the whole time.

        For the first practice with 3 year olds? sure, fine. 4 weeks from now, I’m gonna be annoyed if she’s prevented from interacting with the other girls.

  30. Plisade

    I’m no scholar, but I’ve been having the idea that an evolutionary principle must be that any organism can’t be too successful or it would consume all of its food and die out or evolve into something less successful. I’ve searched for this “principle” but can’t find anything. Would any of you know anything about this?

    Someone-here’s post about the ‘vid’s evolving into something less deadly reminded me of this.

    • Mad Scientist

      Success, in evolutionary terms, means having descendants. Any organism that eats itself into extinction is not successful.

      • Plisade

        So the descendants principle slows down evolution to prevent something from being too successful, consumption-wise?

      • Mad Scientist

        You shouldn’t think of evolution as anything other than descent with modification. It’s not an unraveling. It’s not progress. It’s not a destination. It’s just change, plain and simple.

      • Plisade

        I agree and am annoyed at “teachers” who say x does y to survive. When it’s really, because x does y it survives.

        I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I keep thinking that *gradual* descent is a hardwired feature of evolution, and without it, evolution fails.

    • UnCivilServant

      It was never very deadly.

      And it hasn’t had the sort of impact where it’d run out of hosts.

      Hell, the whole thing can be deceptive. Ebola lasts longer in animals than humans, but we only see it when it jumps to humans where they die horribly. Similar thing with the black death.

      That rule fits better in macrobiology, where mutation and thus evolution is slower.

      • Plisade

        I guess I’m trying to understand what slows evolution down in a “normal” situation, macro speaking. Has this been studied specifically?

      • UnCivilServant

        Population size.

        The more creatures of a type, the less changes will propigate through all of it. You may have isolated populations spalling off, but traits change slower sue to the mass of “standard” genetic profile for the species outwighing it. Non-detrimental mutations will float around a larger gene pool without causing problems, but would dramatically alter a smaller one.

        An advantageous mutation would slowly gain traction, but might not even become predominant before conditions change and make it merely nondetrimental.

      • Plisade

        Ok, that’s making sense. And bolsters my thinking. Population size would correlate to “success,” and the bigger the population, the slower change occurs.

      • Not Adahn

        There is no speeding up or slowing down of evolution.

      • westernsloper

        Evolution is like a good hand job.

        -Darwin

      • Plisade

        Well, it’s not a constant rate. I’ll assume you mean the rate is dependent.

      • Not Adahn

        The rate of genetic change is not terribly varying across time, that’s one of the ways that paleontologists can claim that a species diverged x-million years ago. What selection pressure does is reduce the amount of variation within a population. So Increasing the selection pressure can condense a population into a group of individuals that are much more similar than a population with less pressure. Which might make it easier to say “this is a new species” rather than “this is a varint of that.”

      • Plisade

        Ok, thanks. If pressure correlates to UCS’s size (not a euphemism) it’s starting to make more sense.

    • Drake

      I believe the truly deadly diseases are those that jump species – like bubonic plague. They eat through humans too fast because it was evolved to infect other mamals like rats.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s true. Human symbiotic bacteria rarely cause diseases, and viruses where humans are the reservoir host are rarely lethal.

        fun fact, the first gut bacteria to colonize a person’s intestines trains the immune system to attack other strains of digestive bacteria to help enforce their monopoly over that tract.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      I forgot the term but there’s a cyclic balance in the predator-prey relationship to account for this. If lions grow too successful and hunt the gazelle to near extinction, then a large proportion of the lion pop will die off from starvation. The gazelle herds will bounce back and provide food for regrowing the lion pop.

      For Covid, being deadly doesn’t necessarily equate with success. The original version of the virus may not be able to successfully infect/reproduce in typical people so the virus trades off some of its deadlier characteristics for the ability to reproduce in greater numbers of people. I remember hearing many of the treatments against HIV work in a similar way (at least when I heard this 15 years ago). A treatment targets the deadlier form of HIV and forces to mutate into a less deadly version that the treatment is less effective against (virus trades off efficacy for hardiness). When treatment stops, the less deadly version starts mutating into a deadlier version and treatment is applied again. They do this with several different treatments as the virus mutates, though I think in some people now they are able to keep the viral load to essentially zero.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        *Success in terms of ability as a predator, which I think is what you were referring to. Evolutionary success is different (having descendants), as Mad Scientist noted.

    • Suthenboy

      See ‘Plague Time’ by Paul W Ewald
      Cant go into detail no power and typing on phone

      Pathogens evolve to being benign, host to being resistant ending in symbiotic relationship
      Like bar chicks Starts out bad then before you know it you cant live without them

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I chuckled.

        For me it’s hardcore dancers, particularly ballerinas. Crazy and hawt.

        Must be the Nietzschean admiration.

      • westernsloper

        This might be the best mis-thread in Glibs history! Hope you get power back soon Suthen.

      • Drake

        He made me question my link which I lazily just pasted in.

      • westernsloper

        Ya, wtf is Lindsey up to? As Suthen pointed out he’s a government pathogen. Is he protecting them? I don’t get it. I honestly thought he was one of the better of them on occasion. I am also often an idiot.

      • R C Dean

        I was thinking the same thing.

  31. Not an Economist

    I didn’t want to dead thread but I’ve been reading a lot about WWII recently. And I’ve come to the conclusion both the Japanese and Germans, just didn’t have enough stuff to win the war. When the Germans attacked Russia in operation Barbarossa, while the Russians fought hard, the German soldiers basically were physically worn out by the end of fall and to much equipment had been lost to Russian attacks and even more importantly heavy wear and tear due to the poor Russian roads.

    One of the big Japanese losses in Midway wasn’t the pilots, the airplanes, or possibly even the carriers. It was the airplane mechanics. Just about all the airplane mechanics that sailed with the Midway fleet died. And the Japanese did not have the men who worked on their tractors of cars to recruit from. They had to be trained from scratch. Another weakness of Japan was they didn’t have enough engineers. In particular they lacked engineers who could design aircraft. That is why they could not update their aircraft as fast as the allies could.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Both economies were running on fumes by 39, so they needed to use it or lose it, they got both,

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Check out TIK’s channel on YouTube if you’re interested in this stuff, he really gets into the nitty gritty, particularly on the Eastern Front information.

      https://www.youtube.com/user/TheImperatorKnight

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Storm in the East, WWII through the Soviet lens, a huge, well done Series, done by the Brits for Russian consumption. Propaganda goes many ways, as good as you will find
        pt.1
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CerdjvePsg

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I’ll have a look. Gracias.

      • dbleagle

        To refer back to the dead thread. Back in the 1990s I knew the man married to Sakai’s daughter. I had drinks with Saburo in the backyard on multiple occasions. He had a great sense of humor and was a good storyteller. I still have a photograph of him that he autographed for me in my box of military stuff.

    • Raven Nation

      David Stahel argues in Operation Barbarossa and Germany’s Defeat in the East that the Wehrmacht had lost the Russian war by late August, 1941 because they had failed to achieve a decisive defeat of the Red Army by then. That is, for Stahel, everything after that was details.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        one reason for my link above is the fact the war is told from the Soviet POV, which is fascinating, and pretty accurate from what I have learned,
        18 episodes,

      • Raven Nation

        Thanks!

        Doing better today?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Decisions have been made, the ball is rolling, I’ll keep you updated,
        so yes, a bit, still spooked

      • Raven Nation

        Well, some good news at least.

        “Discretion is the better part of valor.”

      • Viking1865

        If the professionals were in charge, the Germans could have pulled back to more defensible lines, and assembled a force capable of inflicting a crippling blow. Stalingrad was a disaster precisely because they took the finest army in the world at fighting a war of maneuver in open terrain, and decided to get into a street fight which nullified every single one of their advantages.

        If Hitler had been an intelligent strategist, he would have consolidated and held a line roughly contingent with the Dnieper and begun the process of expanding the recruitment of anti-Communist Eastern European peoples and governments. In the West, the North African campaign was always sheer folly. They lost 200,000 men, 2500 tanks, and 8000 aircraft down that rathole. Imagine all those assets in France, with Rommel in command. That prohibits a cross-Channel invasion until I would say 1946.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Or say crush Dunkirk. Heck, as long as we’re playing counterfactuals, a Germany preparing for amphibious landings since the late 30’s. Crush the French and English at Dunkirk, conduct supported landings into Britain, weak non-Churchill PM that surrenders rather than have London leveled and the King executed.

      • Plinker762

        The Japanese and Germans had no local source of oil. Both had to invade areas far away to try and get it. If Germany retreated to a more defensible position, they would have run out of oil and lost anyway.

      • Chipwooder

        Probably. And even if the Germans had captured Moscow by the fall of 1941, the Soviets were just going to move everything east of the Urals. They had already moved a lot of manufacturing out there.

        There were probably avenues for a German victory, but they all require major departures from the actual history – Japan attacking the Soviet Far East, concluding an armistice with Great Britain if Lord Halifax had assumed the position of PM instead of Churchill (which itself would have required several counterfactuals), starting Barbarossa on schedule in the spring rather than on June 22, embracing the Ukrainians as allies of convenience against the Soviets.

    • Fatty Bolger

      Both countries were counting on a lack of resolve from the countries they attacked. And both were wrong.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      NaE, we could spend all night on this topic, Thanks!

    • Gadfly

      And I’ve come to the conclusion both the Japanese and Germans, just didn’t have enough stuff to win the war.

      They failed to account for America. The US was feeding both the British and Russian war machines with supplies before it entered the war, and continued to do so while also fielding and supplying its own armies fighting on two fronts. Had America observed neutrality in the conflict, the Axis probably would have won.

    • IRBE

      The allies had a 5 tril:1 tril ratio over the axis powers in GDP..according to VDH.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    Lies, damned lies, and public health expertism

    “It breaks my heart to see this,” says Anna Song, an assistant professor of health psychology at the University of California, Merced who studies decision-making by young adults. “It’s like asking people to go on a diet. Putting them in a candy store and saying, good luck. And then if they break that diet, we say, ‘Why’d you break the diet? And, you know, we’re going to punish you for it.’ ”

    Many college students still have developing brains, so it’s not that they aren’t informed or that they don’t understand the risks — it’s that they’re wired differently. “Peer networks and having connection with other people is absolutely critical in terms of development for young people,” Song says. “There is a lot going on in the brain to reward those kinds of interactions.”

    Of course, not all students are partying. Many are following the rules and encouraging others to do the same. “I’m not the only person that’s frustrated,” says Reagan Griffin Jr., a sophomore at the University of Southern California. He moved from Tennessee to Los Angeles to be closer to campus, despite the fact all his classes are online. He says he’s been hunkered down, even though many of his fellow Trojans haven’t been. USC reported an “alarming increase” in COVID-19 cases last week. “Clearly, other people have faulty priorities,” he says. The case increases are “the fault of people who either don’t know or don’t care, and neither of those things are excusable.”

    Unlike other types of public health issues, the coronavirus is highly contagious, so the actions of a few can affect an entire campus. “With this kind of virus, you can’t have 60% compliance and be like, ‘Hey, we did a great job!’ ” says Song. “You need to have near complete compliance for this to work.”

    Can we get a fact check, over here?

    • Donation Not Taxation

      Fact check: 90% positives not contagious.
      ‘The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of virus, or viral load, in the sample. The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious. This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are. In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.’

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

      TRIGGER WARNING: New York Times

    • Rhywun

      He moved from Tennessee to Los Angeles to be closer to campus, despite the fact all his classes are online.

      wut

      • invisible finger

        He wanted the full college lockdown experience.

  33. Count Potato

    “The “riots” are not Black Lives Matter marches gone wrong. Armed white nationalists are mobbing these cities to take advantage of protests and scare fellow white people into quietly siding with them. It’s an old, tried and true strategy: using fear & anti-blackness for politics.”

    https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1300114584859299841

    Antifa are “white nationalists”, apparently.

    • Mad Scientist

      Honestly, I have a hard time telling them apart.

      • Plisade

        The outcomes are def the same.

    • invisible finger

      They really think the Smollett story will work this time. Guess you have to keep telling the lie long enough to convince the people that were born yesterday.

    • Mad Scientist

      Sunny Skyes
      @SunnySkyes53
      ·
      22h
      Replying to
      @CillizzaCNN
      These are white nationalists fomenting violence for Trump and there is video footage to prove it…you will never see it on MSM or CNN identifying it as such. The media by not calling it out is aiding Trump in his divisive efforts.

      • R C Dean

        The rioting is being done mostly by whites. The instigators could well be all white. I suspect to people for whom white = evil, the assumption that white people doing bad things must necessarily be white nationalists/supremacists comes easily.

        I find it interesting that Blackrican-Americans seem well represented in the looting, although a mass looting like in Chicago may just be a flavor of rioting.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        They’re trying to flip the script on the past three months of leftist rioting, that’s for sure. Anyone that thinks right wingers are responsible for this nonsense to any comparable degree needs a padded room and a Thorazine shot.

    • Raven Nation

      We have close friends (generally rational people) who believe the riots are Trump’s wag-the-dog moment in a desperate attempt to win re-election.

      • Mad Scientist

        That’s probably a comforting delusion, so long as the rioting is happening in someone else’s neighborhood.

      • Raven Nation

        When you live on top of a range of hills in a valley in western CO, you’re pretty safe. Super people, really smart, but a lot of TDS. He told me not long ago that Trump was acting the same as Bashar Assad.

      • westernsloper

        The really smart descriptor is in question. Or he knows fuck all about Bashar al-assad.

      • Raven Nation

        Yeah, I get that. But, I figure most of us have a part of our lives where being rational takes a vacation.

      • westernsloper

        Are you on the good side of the Mtns or in your other place?

      • Raven Nation

        I’m in my other place right now. But the whole campus rules things means I should be able to spend most of the fall in the mountains. Bonus: get to live with my wife.

      • westernsloper

        When you get up here let me know. I’ll buy you and your wife a beer if timing works out.*

        *will be in the woods third season

    • whiz

      Trump’s efforts to label what is happening in major cities as “riots” speaks at least somewhat to his desperation…

      Cillizza’s efforts to label himself a “journalist” speaks a lot to his delusion…

    • R C Dean

      Her book has already been pirate-looted.

      • Mojeaux

        Jinx!

    • Mojeaux

      It’s already up on Library Genesis (pirate ebook site).

      I almost linked it, but I can’t bring myself to.

      • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

        It’s also up at ZLibrary (b-ok.cc).

  34. Gadfly

    “licentious wickedness” Nice neutral language there. Blah blah shouldn’t be a crime among consenting adults blah.

    I’m OK with it being called “licentious wickedness”, as I would say that’s a fair description. But yes, between consenting adults (as it seems the case here) it should absolutely be legal. Legal, but socially shunned.

    • Mad Scientist

      I don’t see how this is any more disgusting than that fat chick Count Potato is always posting links to.

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      “What did you say after the first time you had sex?”

      “Get off me, Mom, you’re crushing my smokes.”

    • Tejicano

      I saw that video recently – pretty cool to see a pristine box of 150 year old ammo. From his statement about the price it sounds like they are $100 per round.

  35. Count Potato

    “Journalist Cassandra Fairbanks Suspended from Twitter over Kyle Rittenhouse Support

    Gateway Pundit reporter Cassandra Fairbanks was recently suspended from Twitter for tweeting her support of Kyle Rittenhouse, who was recently arrested over the shooting of three rioters in Kenosha, Wisconsin. In response, lawyers for Rittenouse warned Twitter that they intend to hold the platform “fully liable.”

    Gateway Pundit reporter Cassandra Fairbanks’ Twitter account was suspended earlier today, for tweeting “Kyle Rittenhouse did nothing wrong.” Twitter claims that this statement is “glorifying violence.””

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/08/30/journalist-cassandra-fairbanks-suspended-from-twitter-over-kyle-rittenhouse-support/

    • Viking1865

      I propose a simple eliminator test: no government to which the US sends aid can be classified as persecutory for purposes of asylum.

      • Gustave Lytton

        It sounds good, but I’d concede that we have, do, and will send aid to oppressive governments. Maybe a higher burden of proof for countries we aid?

      • Viking1865

        Nope. Either stop giving money to oppressive governments, or stop pretending that “asylum” means “I live in a Third World shitole and would like to live elsewhere.” Every single human being on Earth can claim asylum if the only meaning of the word is “My life would be better in America.”