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GODDAMNIT”

 

Brett is out this afternoon for some reason.  I’m filling in.

Here’s a few links!

The Peruvian president must have colluded with the Russians.

In case you hear anybody complaining about fentanyl use in the US…

Next month’s headline:  Cuban doctors claim asylum.

Bolivian presidential candidate decides to drop out of the race to avoid splitting the vote which would likely favor the socialist party.

 

Because I know how much you all LOVE Nu Metal…try this on for size…

 

 

Edit:  Do it Donny.  DO IT!

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475 Comments

    • Drake

      I saw that lying shitbag on Tucker last night. It would be funny if he wasn’t getting paid by the taxes of the people he’s screwing over.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Sorry apparently its a he reporter. But still

    • Surly Knott

      Nice!
      Pity the transcriber didn’t know how to spell FOIA.

    • invisible finger

      “I gave her the proper channels “

      What an asshole. Proper channels are for employees. Journalists are not your employees and not your subjects. A journalists job is to to use every conceivable channel.

      They can berate the journalist all they want but they cannot refute the fact the journalist uncovered. This isn’t hearsay or rumor, it’s actual government communication. They always want to pull the FOIA card when they want to delay to concoct a bullshit story.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yep and the weasel and his excuses probably is the greatest confirmation for that jounolist. Give that man a Pulitzer!

    • Suthenboy

      I think it is about time to get out the pitchforks, isn’t it?

      I haven’t heard one pol or doc tell the truth yet. I don’t know why anyone would listen to them.

      I know a girl that works as a medical researcher working on the commie cooties so I called her up.

      After catching up (dummy should have married me, she is divorced now, but then I never would have met the present Mrs. Suthenboy) I asked

      “Can you tell me what the hell is going on? All I am getting are clearly lies.”

      Her- “No”

      “What? What do you mean no? Just spit it out.”

      Her – ” I cant tell you.”

      “Well that is just ridiculous”

      Her – ” I am sorry but I just cant tell you.”

      *She hangs up phone*

      Pitchforks people. Get one.

      • Count Potato

        WTF?

      • Ted S.

        He wants to pitchfork Dr. Chet.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Every single presser with a govt hack should be that contentious. I don’t care who the govt hack is or what party they belong to, the press should always be ripping them.

      • Suthenboy

        But then they would be doing their job and we cant have that.

    • dontreadonme

      And all the while this is going on, the Mayor and city council ‘voted’ in a 34% increase in property taxes for next year. The populous is revolting big time. I think the mayor has asked public works to remove all the lamp posts in the city ASAP for ‘maintenance’.

  1. Count Potato

    “Mexico sees fentanyl seizures up 465%, denies making drug”

    “We bought it from the Chinese”

    • Cancelled

      Does anyone remember when we banned Oxycontin because it was being abused by addicts who liked it more than heroin because it was a safer high? Yeah, fuck all drug warriors to death with a syphilitic chainsaw.

  2. Mad Scientist

    I am not normally a fan of badminton, but holy dammit Christmas this is impressive.

    • PBRstreetgang

      I almost stood and cheered at the end of that! Wow

  3. Count Potato

    “Cuba has exported doctors on more routine missions in exchange for cash or goods in recent decades, making them its top source of hard currency.

    While some countries have received the medics for free during the pandemic, others are paying: a slight boon to Cuba’s economy struggling with the coronavirus-induced collapse in tourism.”

    I guess showing that one building in Havana stopped working.

  4. AlexinCT

    Hoy es Viernes compadre, no Jueves….

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Yeah it is. I normally get Thursdays.

      • AlexinCT

        Hoping you getting some cheese for your sacrifice sir…

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Cheese? Swiss Servator claims all of that.

  5. SDF-7

    You know if he pardons Assange it will reignite the Schiff-storm of ROOSIAN COLLUSION! Because somehow Wikileaks was a front for the campaign and the Russians or something. Smart thing to do would be to save that one for after the election.

    Pardon Snowden, definitely.

    • Cancelled

      Pardon Snowden because informing the citizens of the country that their government is violating the rights guaranteed by the constitution cannot by any process of honest legal reasoning be a crime. Bradley Manning arguably commited treason, he released damaging information about our actions toward enemy combatants. Snowden told the public, which holds the ultimate sovereignty in this country, that their servants were betraying their trust. He is a hero.

      • SDF-7

        Dang skippy. If I were somehow roped in as President, I’d pardon him and then give him a Medal of Freedom. Then I’d probably be offed by the CIA, of course.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I don’t think we’ll see that before the election. The intelligence agencies hate Snowden with the heat of a thousand Hillaries.

        However, after the election he’s free to fuck with them.

      • Count Potato

        So a kilohillary is a unit of hate?

  6. Count Potato

    “She said Rohrabacher and an assistant offered to arrange a pardon for Assange in return for information about the hacking of Democratic emails before the 2016 U.S. presidential election.”

    If that happens, you know it’s Russia, Russia, Russia!

    • blackjack

      True story. My wife’s dad was a campaign manager for Rohrabacher. He crashed the memorial for my wife’s dad and gave a political speech, in a back yard in Simi valley. He was an alright guy, but a consumate politician. This was ’05 or so.

  7. Juvenile Bluster

    Hey all. Florida Man reached out to me to see how I was doing, so I figured I’d give y’all an update.

    First of all, I’m sorry about my blowup before I left. I’ve been on a razor’s edge for a long time because of the pandemic, because of my job, because of a lot of things. When that happens, thanks to my soup of mental issues, I can sometimes just lose it and blow up. I shouldn’t have done that.

    I still believe a lot of the things I said. I think that Trump is godawful and nobody in their right mind, especially no libertarian, should consider voting for him. I still think that science backs up wearing masks and it’s silly to think otherwise. But I shouldn’t have reacted the way I did and I shouldn’t have torn into you all the way I did without giving a chance to respond.

    I’m not coming back yet, because I’m still not in a good place mentally, and I don’t want to blow up again. But I’m happy to see I’m not completely excommunicated from this place, and I look forward to talking to y’all again on a regular basis.

    -Andrew/JB

    • Ownbestenemy

      Thanks for update and be well! We will be here…I hope.

    • Mojeaux

      d00d– We like you. Feel better soon.

    • SDF-7

      Hope you get to a good place, JB. Don’t mind all of us who are concerned the wrong lizard might win!

    • Chipwooder

      Hey! Good to see you. Hoping things improve for you soon and you’ll be back here on the regular.

    • Sean

      Never apologize,

      ?

      • Certified Public Asshat

        We won’t accept it anyway.

    • Cancelled

      I disagree with you about many things, but I hold you in high regard as an honest and thoughtful commenter. I have also observed a problem here with people going all in on Trump love and ranting at anyone who questions it. I understand the roots of this, because the left is actively trying to institute tyranny and must be fought, but that does not excuse it. I hope at some point that you feel comfortanble coming back. This place came into existence because the more cosmo types at TOS effectively drove the more yokel types away during the last election, I hate to see the opposite happening here now. As far as I am concerned (which matters not one whit) come back and blow up if you need to! And get the other less fond of Trump folks back as well! Where is HM for instance? If this place is going to be a conservatarian echo chamber it will be much less interesting.

      • R C Dean

        If this place is going to be a conservatarian echo chamber it will be much less interesting.

        Concur. The discussion at this joint is light years beyond most comment sections, and should be amenable to a broad sprectrum of opinions.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        #metoo

        I’ve been open and transparent about my dilemma about voting Trump with the goal of maybe spurring some sober discussions of the plusses and minuses of Trump here. It’s so easy to get lost in the media led agenda and get thinking on their terms (Ozy, was it you who wrote a comment along these lines the other day?) that you don’t put your own critical thinking cap on and force yourself to confront the shittiness of Trump. Emotionally, it’s an easy choice. Progs are the enemy. Hurt the enemy. Rationally, it’s an easy choice. They all suck. Don’t legitimize the system or waste your time.

        I still, to this day, don’t know what I’m going to do. As much as I want to wash my hands of it all… I just can’t jump that hurdle quite yet.

      • Sean

        You can look at Portland, Seattle, DC, San Francisco, Kenosha, etc. and not realize that is the Democrats and fucking Soros waging war on America? That’s their vision for everywhere. The cultured elites controlling every aspect of your life. You have no rights. Criminals have more rights than you. That’s their position.

        Trump is the only thing in their way. You don’t have to like him, but we need him there.

      • Chipwooder

        I suppose I’m one of the more yokelish here, but your point is valid.

      • Gustave Lytton

        All of that. Miss you JB.

    • R C Dean

      Come back and hang out when you can.

      You’re wrong about masks, by the way. ?

    • The Hyperbole

      These assholes deserved everything you said, no need to apologize.

      • SDF-7

        Hey! We resemble that remark!

      • Ownbestenemy

        Why we love you Hyperbole.

    • Idle Hands

      never apologize. I know I have it coming.

    • invisible finger

      Welcome to Glibertarians. It can be combative.

      • Desk Jockey

        fucking glibwood?

    • grrizzly

      At this point there’s overwhelming evidence that face mask mandates have no effect on the spread of the virus. None.

      Mask mandate since July 21.

      France made it compulsory to wear a mask in closed public spaces such as shops and banks on July 21, and in early August it became compulsory outdoors in crowded parts of the city.

      Since early September face masks are mandatory in Paris outdoors at all times.

      What’s the effect on the spread of coronavirus? Zero. Look at the chart with daily new cases and tell me if there’s any change in pattern in late July or early August. There’s nothing there. The pattern remained exactly the same. The new cases kept increasing despite wearing face masks.

      The same analysis can be repeated for every other country or state. California, Florida, the Philippines, Peru, you name it. We are well beyond discussing droplets, aerosols, let alone hamsters wearing masks. We have concrete data on what happens with COVID-19 cases/deaths in 2020 when face mask mandates were introduced. In many countries compliance with mask mandates is very high. Regardless, they have had no impact on COVID-19.

      • Count Potato

        If they’ve had absolutely no impact, then something is very suspicious.

      • Idle Hands

        Suspicious? You mean you don’t think it’s just a meaningless political device so politicians and bureaucrats can just blame their constituents for catching the ro? Masks will always eventually work because eventually cases numbers will at some point decrease after they are enacted any spikes in the meantime are because people aren’t wearing them properly.

      • Count Potato

        “You mean you don’t think it’s just a meaningless political device so politicians and bureaucrats can just blame their constituents for catching the ro?”

        I don’t. Not that it isn’t political.

      • grrizzly

        Here’s a thread with daily new cases by country and the dates of face mask mandates. It’s as if Farr’s laws don’t care about face masks.

      • Count Potato

        Farr’s Law has nothing to do with face masks.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Farr’s Law is all about wearing dresses during a police action, right?

      • Tulip

        They don’t wear them. I have frequent video calls with a colleague in Paris. He’s not wearing a mask and there’s always someone behind him with one pulled down under their chin. He calls from an outdoor place

      • grrizzly

        They wear them like good little sheep in Florida, California, the Phillipnes. 99.5% spectators along the tour de France wear them. Every morning on NBCSN.

      • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

        I’ve been doing multiple analyses on the stats being published by Alberta Health for the Edmonton region (we went into mandatory mask wearing on August 1st), and so far it’s not having any impact at all. If you’re a die-hard mask believer, that’s gotta be discouraging. For the more cynical (like moi), it’s not at all surprising, since I think that most of what’s being done is “pandemic theatre” in the same way that most of the stuff at airports is “security theatre” — it’s done to demonstrate that “something’s being done,” which is a political move, not a public health one.

        They’ll probably ask us to pat our heads and rub our stomachs at some point in the future.

        Yes, Prime Minister identified it as the Politician’s Syllogism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician%27s_syllogism

    • Tonio

      Hope you get to a better place and decide to return.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Come back man, we just can’t quit you.

    • blackjack

      Yeah, I figured it was just bluster. We like people here and you’re welcome to chime in whenever it strikes you. I can relate to the stress of current events affecting you. I can’t believe what I’ve seen happen this year. CANT.FUCKING.BELIEVE.IT.

      • Count Potato

        #metoo

      • Gustave Lytton

        Wait, all… *dons sunglasses …juvenile bluster?

      • blackjack

        ‘zactly.

    • Florida Man

      Thanks for checking in. I wasn’t sure if I should share with the commentariat that I had reached out to you.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        You can share everything with us.

        We’re totally trustworthy.

      • Sean

        Whelp, we found the Fed.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’ve been looking for a new assignment anyway.

      • Florida Man

        Get a Rope!!!

      • Gustave Lytton

        Thank you FM for that.

    • Count Potato

      Good to hear from you 🙂

    • l0b0t

      Please come back when you feel like doing so. You are missed.

    • EvilSheldon

      I would never have someone excommunicated over an honest disagreement, even if they are wrong. Even about something really important.

      Just look at all these fuckers in here who don’t like pineapple pizza.

      • Florida Man

        *fist bump for pineapple*

      • Suthenboy

        I don’t agree with anyone about everything, but that is ok. For instance my wife, the love of my life, with whom I have spent nearly every day with for the last 25 years….likes avocados. Avocados for God’s sake. No one is perfect.

      • Tundra

        Don’t worry, Suthen. We like you anyway.

      • dontreadonme

        You know guacamole is made from avocado, right? RIGHT?!

      • Rhywun

        Guacamole is disgusting.

      • Tundra

        Finally, truth.

      • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

        Just look at all these fuckers in here who don’t like pineapple pizza.

        Sickos, every last one of ’em.

    • Suthenboy

      You don’t owe anyone an apology, certainly not to me. Everyone blows up now and then. Life can be. a bitch sometime. Rant all. you want. We all do it.

      When you are comfortable coming back you will be welcomed back. We are glad to have you around JB.

      Be well Sir.

    • Pope Jimbo

      The light is always on. Come back when you feel ready, we’ll be glad to see you.

    • Tundra

      Be well, man.

      We can’t really afford to lose anyone.

      Even if they don’t always agree.

    • AlexinCT

      JB, the key to life is to not take it too seriously. None of us makes it out alive….

    • TARDis

      I’m not coming back yet, because I’m still not in a good place mentally, and I don’t want to blow up again.

      We all handle this messed up thing called life in our own messed up way. At least, we know there are some people who exist that we can find some common ground with. Take care of you and yours.

  8. Surly Knott

    Minnesotans are getting surly.

    • Surly Knott

      Sorry, messed up the link.

      • Fourscore

        “A team of health workers conducting random COVID-19 testing”

        Did they all look quite young, pants hung low? Probably Hennepin County people.

    • Nephilium

      The link just goes round and round?

      Or is this about the pickets at Surly?

      • Surly Knott

        Try the second one, in my reply to myself ;-\

    • Pope Jimbo

      I like how they wouldn’t tell us where it happened. Probably worried that too many people would try to move there and drive up home prices.

      • Tundra

        We know it’s not the fucking George Floyd Autonomous Zone.

        That doesn’t exist.

        Except in reality.

  9. Drake

    Bret Baier asks:

    Do you really believe that George Soros is somehow affecting or altering the programming or editorial decisions on Fox News? Really? Just want to follow the latest. Thanks

    And gets a shit-ton of answers his bosses won’t like.

    Gingrich posts his own answer.

      • Drake

        I can smell soy just looking at the picture.

      • blackjack

        Fuck that douchebag. I want them to crack the skulls of anyone who thinks it’s OK to burn buildings, attack police and kill republicans. I want to see these people suffer. It’s called justice. Don’t fuck with me and I’ll leave you alone, fuck with me and you’ll know quickly how angry that makes me. I’m seriously pissed about Aaron Danielson and how shoddily the Portland authorities handled it. He was killed because he’s not a communist. It’s totally fucked up. Grow a pair and protect people’s rights, Portland. There should be a half dozen people in jail for this. It’s obvious and plain that they were involved. Do your fucking job!

    • kbolino

      The double standard in the treatment of Soros vs. the Kochs is something to behold.

  10. The Late P Brooks

    Fighting to free us from autocratic rule

    Biden, the Democratic nominee, has proposed increasing the tax on long-term capital gains to 39.6% — the same top rate he has proposed for ordinary income — for those making over $1 million, according to the Tax Foundation. At present, the rate is 20% for single households who have taxable income over $441,451.

    ——-

    Biden has sought to portray his campaign as not concerned about what Wall Street thinks, saying in early July he wanted to end the “era of shareholder capitalism.” Biden also said the “wealthy investor class” does not “need me.”

    Joe knows what America needs.

    • R C Dean

      A tender fondling of its prepubescent breasts?

      • Surly Knott

        I believe the phrase is “tendy nub nubs.”

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      If he were to propose eliminating corporate taxes and treating dividends and capital gains as ordinary personal income, ok. But I doubt that’s what he has in mind.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      the tax on long-term capital gains

      Like my 401K?

    • The Gunslinger

      A firm grasp of the pussy? Maybe even with insertion of a couple of fingers?

  11. Brawndo

    I read WebDom’s rant today. How awful, especially the health departments sending spies in.

    “When I express my outrage, I am treated as if I am the problem. I am so fucking tired of being told that I don’t care about people. I do care — more than I want to.

    That’s really the reason why I get so upset. People are not only blind to the manipulation that’s happening on a grand scale, they are willing participants.”

    This was especially poignant. I’ve been protesting all of this since day 1, pointing out how tone deaf it is to say “we’re all in this together” when millions of people were suddenly unemployed due to executive fiat. My wife, and several acquaintances thought I was being cruel and dismissive of people that would get sick and die. Needless to say it’s had an impact on my mood and demeanor. I hope we get back to normal soon, but I really hope there’s very real, and very serious repercussions for the people who fed into this, and caused untold amounts of suffering for cheap political gain.

    • EvilSheldon

      Nothing fills me with rage these days like being told, “We’re all in this together,” by some hereditary-political-class cunt who hasn’t missed a paycheck, a gym workout, a salon appointment, or a restaurant reservation since this bullshit started.

  12. Gustave Lytton

    I had to log out of the VPN to first login to Outlook before reconnecting to the VPN. The Outlook login page wouldnt come up fully when logged into the VPN.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    We’re all under a lot of stress, JB. Hang in there.

  14. Mojeaux

    1/2 hour rule maintained:

    TFW you have to solve a problem, think about it a little, google a little, and do it in about 10 minutes.

    • Cancelled

      “Measure twice cut once” works for more than carpentry

      • Florida Man

        Not another circumcision debate!

      • The Hyperbole

        I cut it twice and it’s still too short.

    • mrfamous

      This works really well for a lot of things. But not statistical modeling. If I sit back and think about how to model a problem for half an hour, I’ll have 174 potential solutions a half hour later.

      Sometimes a good model is better than the best one.

      • Mojeaux

        This was for an ebook. I’ve been doing this for 12 years and I still get situations/formatting I’ve never had to deal with before.

  15. Nephilium

    As Tulip and the Kibbled one would hunt me down if I didn’t (or just host their own). Here’s the Zoom/Happy Hour for tonight. I’ll kick it off at 20:00 Eastern (or possible a couple minutes later, I’m heading out the door to get a workout in).

    • Ownbestenemy

      Thanks Neph. You are a shining beacon in a sea of…..ah….never mind.

    • Tulip

      Thank you, Neph!

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Headline I think I saw:

    Harvard best School in America.

    I laughed so hard I had tears in my eyes. If that’s true, just bring on the Four Horsemen, and quit tinkering around the edges, Nameless One.

    • Gdragon

      As we always say, it’s not even the best school in goddamned Cambridge 😉

  17. The Late P Brooks

    I still think that science backs up wearing masks and it’s silly to think otherwise.

    *picks up sharp stick*

    Is that masks in theory, or masks in practice?

    • Sean

      *picks up a bunch of loganberries*

    • Cancelled

      Mandates are evil. Masks are not remotely a panacea. But I am unimpressed to say the least with the argument that they have no effect and regard those here who angrily espouse that argument as not all that different from those claiming they are a panacea. It is based purely in emotion and not in reason or fact. Whther the disease is spread by aerosol or droplets stopping some portion of exhaled material has some effect. Being as dishonest as the left is not a good tactic.

      • Tundra

        Whther the disease is spread by aerosol or droplets stopping some portion of exhaled material has some effect. You are making pretty big assumption there. Do you have a source?

        I haven’t seen anything that says they stop enough droplets or aerosol to outweigh the other follow-on effects of wearing a mask for long periods of time.

        We are doing a great job of making sure our fucking immune systems won’t work right when we need them for the run of the mill colds, flu, whatever.

        I’m fine with making it optional, but we really need to consider trade-offs and relative risks. And stop sanitizing every goddamn surface we encounter.

      • Cancelled

        Yep, there we go. The knee jerk attitude from ‘our’ side. Other than C. Anacreon literally no one here is qualified to express an expert opinion on this subject. I am not a cosmo. I am almost convinced that the choices facing us are fascism or communism, and am choosing fascism in that scenario. In some ways I am more ‘conservative’ than most even here, but if people here cannot comprehend the distiction between opposing mask mandates and opposing masks, and persist in insistsing that mask wearing is evil in order to oppose thise who insist it is the path of virtue I am joining JB and bolting.

        I agree that coddling is bad whether it is children or immune systems. But when you guys make blanket claims about how wearing masks at the store is useless and evil you sound like a bunch of 911 truthers, and that is not a compliment. I am completely on your side about masks in your office, that is stupid because you are there for hours and any minor effect is almost certainly overcome by other vectors, but that is not the whole story anymore than “masks = safety” is.

        Sorry, I hate to explode on you Tundra because I like you, and do not at all regard you as one of the problematic people here, but I am so fed up with knee jerk responses this year that I am about 30 seconds from grabbing my bottle and heading to the nearest autonymous zone to start gathering my honor guard. If we cannot put aside emotion and use reason we are going to end up in a very dark place.

      • Tundra

        So basically you agree with what I said about the immune system, but attributed a bunch of other stuff to me that I never even said.

        Dude, I asked for a source. You made a claim that I personally have not read any definitive answer to yet. I was hoping I missed it.

        And don’t worry, you won’t hurt my feelings. We are all trying to find our way.

      • Mojeaux

        And don’t worry, you won’t hurt my feelings. We are all trying to find our way.

        This hit me in my feelz. Very profound. Thank you.

      • Cancelled

        Sorry, your response is fair. I was responding to many comments, yours was where I placed my response. I am skeptical about masks. I am adamantly opposed to mandates. But far and away above all else I am opposed to knee jerk, or team based, or any other kind of atomatic response to anything. The world is complicated and any time you have a response to anything without thinking you are failing in the basic responsibility of a thinking being (not you Tundra, you anyone reading this and also me writing it.)

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        The mask debate seems very similar to the climate change debate to me. The skeptics dig their heels in and argue conspiracy, unintentionally letting the authoritarians steal every other base.

        Even if the masks are reasonably effective, there are some damn good arguments against mask mandates and against masks themselves.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    If this place is going to be a conservatarian echo chamber it will be much less interesting.

    True. Not everything progressives profess themselves to be concerned (or OUTRAGED) by is imaginary or wrong. Their solutions lack sensibility and practicality. Perhaps we could help them with that.

    • mrfamous

      The corporate takeover of large swaths of the government is a real and distressing thing that the socialists correctly point out. Their solutions to this problem do leave a whole lot to be desired however.

      I have often expressed some preference for a minimal welfare state: some people are pretty much a lost cause. Trying to make it so these people are merely ‘miserable’ instead of ‘desperate’ probably has some positive societal benefits.

      • invisible finger

        Socialists are the ones that sold out government to corporate interests.

      • Gadfly

        Indeed. It is easier to control fewer companies than more, and even if it were not intentional having a bevy of regulations by its very nature will favor corporate consolidation. Fewer, larger companies controlling various industries will inevitably mean those companies have sway in the government itself, either indirectly by consultation (they are, of course, the experts in their field) or directly through buying favor in the government. Being larger and having fewer competitors makes it all the easier to buy control of government, as there is more resources to do so and less competition. And a government that is empowered to crush you or your competition is a government you would be foolish not to try to buy influence in.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      I’ve found that with some of my more lefty friends we often agree on the problems but their solutions tend to more government control and a belief that people need to be told what to do.

      • Mad Scientist

        Told what to do, and if they don’t obey, forced.

    • Suthenboy

      They are not interested in sensibility or practicality. They are interested in POWER.

  19. Sensei

    Holy shit. Words fail me. How about Maiden covered by an all girl Japanese band.

    https://youtu.be/cu_B0ULHqsU

    There is some hope for heavy metal.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Not bad but as long as our societies are turning out wussies who’d rather cuddle with a girl and watch Netflix after they get home from their job as a barista rather than bang a girl and guzzle a twelve pack of PBR after getting home from their job laying bricks (or whatever) heavy metal is doomed.

      • db

        Managin’ a pop group–ain’t no job for a man.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        Think your girlfriend loves you?

      • Gustave Lytton

        Note that he calls The Economist a magazine, when their preferred term is newspaper. People in glass houses…

      • Sensei

        Yup. There have been a few loud voices about this.

        I get it, I really do, but at this point it is going to cause more confusion than anything. I think they are just pissed because other Asian names are used in the correct order.

      • Pope Jimbo

        the now former defense minister

        The feminists have an army?

      • Sensei

        She’s got some range.

    • Mad Scientist

      Would.

  20. Stinky Wizzleteats

    A bit of a deeper dive into Princeton’s racism self-own (Sargon, ~15 min):

    https://youtu.be/1TywOZ6BIFU

    And what a sweet self-own it was.

    • Homple

      Watching that made me me happy.

      Thank you.

  21. Gustave Lytton

    Concealed carry license expired. Annoyingly, the four years starts from when they issue the renewal so I waited until close to the expiration to send in the renewal (one nice thing about covid is they started renewals by mail instead of needing to go in). Three weeks and nothing so called in. They’re still processing the ones that expired in the first week of the month and they’re getting 500 a month. Which sounded like a lot until I did the math. 25 a day for 1-3 clerks. Ridiculous. And of course they cashed my check on arrival, not at processing.

    • Sean

      That bites. Our local sheriff is back to doing them in person and on the spot. GF went a couple weeks ago and was in and out fast, despite a couple people in front of her.

      • Gustave Lytton

        That how it used to be, easy breezy lemon squeezy. Then there was a rush several years ago and they went to appointments except renewals could drop in one day a week. Was always walk in, walk out pretty much. Figured it would be the same for mail in renewals. Hah!

        If I’d known, I would have mailed the renewal weeks earlier but I didn’t want to keep moving my four years backwards. And nothing on the website saying they had a long backlog either.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Oh, and the clerk was quick to throw in a reminder that I can’t carry now. In fairness, I think it was both sympathizing with the backlog and not wanting otherwise law abiding folks getting screwed but still was a bit annoying.

      • grrizzly

        I’m always shocked when in certain details Mass. turns out better than other states wrt guns.
        https://www.mass.gov/how-to/renew-a-firearms-license
        There’s a grace period here if you “submit your renewal application prior to the expiration date of your current license.”

      • Sean

        I think PA has a 6 month grace period after expiration.

      • db

        Didn’t know that.

        *checks wallet, sees “2021” on LTC, heaves sigh of relief*

      • Sean

        I’m not looking it up, but I think it was as an affirmative defence against carrying without a ltfc. Best advice is to not let it expire.

      • Sensei

        What is this thing “concealed carry”?

        /NJ resident

    • EvilSheldon

      Yeah. Don’t tell anyone, but I might have been rollin’ dirty for like six weeks over the summer. Maybe.

      • Suthenboy

        *Checks Second Amendment*

        Nope. You weren’t.

  22. Mad Scientist

    Not everything progressives profess themselves to be concerned (or OUTRAGED) by is imaginary or wrong.

    Right. I’m concerned about police brutality. The hard left says they are, but the whole thing is merely a stalking horse for promoting communism. The truth is they’re fine with police brutality so long as they’re the ones in control of the police.

    • Chipwooder

      What angers me about the bullshit that’s been going on is that they are making it that much harder for genuine reform to happen because of their dogmatic racialization of the issue. It should be something that is understood to be universal.

      • Homple

        They don’t want reform, the want martyrs, even martyrs high out of their minds and dumb enough to try fighting the cops. Any corpse will do.

    • invisible finger

      Police overreach is directly attributable to the growth in the number of victimless crimes

      But the left loves to concoct new victimless crimes every day. They simply can’t help but exacerbate every problem with every solution they proffer.

    • Drake

      I think they want to be the police.

      But yes – part of my anger towards them is they take the legitimate issue of police use of force and use for their own purposes (communism). Last I heard a decent reform bill died in Congress and nobody noticed because they were too busy burning cities. There was all kinds of energy to do stuff like ending no-knock-warrants at the state and city level. Instead they side-tracked the whole thing into “defund the police” lunacy.

      They been doing this shit every.fucking.time for years. I swear they prefer to have more excuses to riot than actual reform.

    • kbolino

      Not just the police. The military and the IC as well, and now we can include the public health apparatus. They want control. If professing a desire for reform gets them that control, then they’ll go along with it, but if not they’ll chuck it. At the same time we’re supposed to be concerned about police abuses we’re seeing some of the greatest enlargement of police actions, against people for not following arbitrary “emergency” edicts. We were supposed to trust whatever the FBI, CIA, etc. said when it came to “Russian interference”. And so on. Actual lives don’t matter unless the body can be stood upon to obtain power.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      ‘To this day don’t understand what the hell went wrong’

      Somebody’s a little bit naive.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Too bad his despondency could lead to suicide by two shots to the back of the head.

      • The Gunslinger

        And lucky to have not committed suicide yet.

    • Drake

      The bureau needs to be burned to the ground.

    • Tulip

      I ordered the book

  23. Chipwooder

    Regarding nu-metal…..most of the bands that fell under that umbrella were crap – Limp Bizkit, Staind, Linkin Park, Papa Roach, Drowning Pool, and yes Evanescence. Some were at least pretty good, though – the Deftones were great, Korn and Godsmack had some good songs,

    • Count Potato

      They still suck compared to Prong or Slayer.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Agreed add Pantera

    • EvilSheldon

      Linkin Park had some very unique, very cool sounds in their earlier records. They went badly downhill after Hybrid Theory.

      The Deftones were awesome.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      That was a joke, Evanescence isn’t generally considered Nu-Metal. They’re one of those mainstream Christian bands that came out in the early 00’s.

  24. Idle Hands

    https://13wham.com/news/nation-world/teachers-say-some-parents-drink-smoke-and-appear-half-dressed-in-online-classroo

    “Parents, please make sure that you have on proper clothing when you are walking behind your child’s computer because we’ve seen them in their drawers, their bras, and everything else,” Pride said during public comment.

    Pride said she had plenty of issues to take up with the district, but dedicated her entire three minutes to this message.

    “Parents, when you are helping your children at their computer please do not appear with big joints in your hands and cigarettes,” Pride continued. “Those joints be as big as cigars. Oh yeah, we’ve seen it all.”
    “I did have a parent who sat on the couch and we could see an ankle monitor on her leg,” said one teacher, who wished to remain anonymous.

    “I had a father, no shirt drinking a beer at 11:45 in the morning,” another teacher said.

    the horror! parents are people. Fuck teachers.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “”I had a father, no shirt drinking a beer at 11:45 in the morning,” another teacher said.“
      Nothing wrong with that…

    • db

      I was in a work meeting via Teams, when one of my colleagues, who uses his bedroom as an office, for some reason left his camera on (we almost never use video in our work meetings). In the middle of the meeting, his wife walked into the room and started rummaging around in her lingerie drawer behind him, holding several choice items up before selecting one.

      • LJW

        I think either “Was she a would?” Or “pics or it didn’t happen” is a good response to this.

      • db

        I would never comment on the attractiveness of a colleague’s spouse.

      • Tundra

        Sounds like a ‘would’ to me.

    • invisible finger

      There’s a simple solution to this problem but they’ll choose the choose the most heinous one instead.

  25. Certified Public Asshat

    Video recorded by Charity Sadé, a BLM activist in DC, shows her confronting & recording a CVS pharmacy staff person who called police on thieves. She accuses the employee of endangering the lives of black people. #BlackLivesMatter pic.twitter.com/6YiHR7XFTa— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) September 18, 2020

    Won’t someone please think of the thieves?

    • Chipwooder

      This one is from last month, but they are actually chanting “Who do we protect? Black criminals!”

      I mean, I feel compelled to laugh even though it isn’t really funny.

      • Rebel Scum

        Morons will chant anything. Or they actually believe it because “reparations” or something.

    • Rebel Scum

      Stealing is a crime. If you steal you should be arrested and prosecuted. Then end.

  26. Pope Jimbo

    Some happy stuff to start the weekend

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Thank you

    • Homple

      “Le Petit Canard” dance song?

    • TARDis

      Scrolled down.

      When did Nancy join Starfleet?

    • Gustave Lytton

      How far away is your toilet? It can’t be that bad.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The gallon jugs are right there. Unfortunately they’re hard to distinguish from the ones with sweet tea.

      • Florida Man

        If your pee looks like tea you have way too much protein in your urine.

      • l0b0t

        Or you might be really bad at brewing tea. I’ve had some here in NYC that were quite pale.

    • Frosty

      Someone needs to hydrate more

  27. Pope Jimbo

    Some other stuff to start that weekend cleanse.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      No thank you

    • Count Potato

      Sabo is great.

    • Rebel Scum

      Ew.

  28. Pope Jimbo
    • Count Potato

      LOLOL

  29. The Other Kevin

    A lot of you Glibs share the same music tastes as me, so I thought you might want to check something out. Q101 in Chicago is doing a “History of Alternative A-Z” feature. They are playing alternative songs from the last 50 years, in order by song title from A-Z. Unfortunately they’re only doing it from 9-5 during the week, but they’ve been at it a few weeks and they’re only on the letter “I”. I’m hearing a lot of songs I used to like but I’ve forgotten. Today I heard Dead Kennedys, 21 Pilots, Blink 182, The Waitresses, Modern English, Pearl Jam, just to name a few.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    We’re totally trustworthy.

    Totally, mostly, what’s the diff?

  31. LJW

    How Bots Took Over the RTX 3080 Launch

    Recaptcha, while annoying, would have prevented this. Amazed to see that a tech company like Nvidia wasn’t prepared for this.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    The Waitresses

    I saw them in some bar in Poughkeepsie, in the early ’80s. They had that joint jumpin’.

  33. Pope Jimbo

    Bolivian presidential candidate decides to drop out of the race

    Great. One more thing Biden will be accused of plagiarizing.

  34. Florida Man

    Universal announced they are opening 2 of the HHN houses that were cancelled for this year for this weekend only. I’m going Sunday just because it would have been the 30th anniversary and I want to go to a limited event. Busch gardens dgaf. Full speed ahead with Howl-O-Scream.

  35. Yusef drives a Kia

    We road tripped to Reed City for some business today and stopped at Reed City brewing for lunch, Deanna’s Grilled cheese, NY Cheesecake with Raspberry sauce, and a Flight of 7,
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/4dV2deUtZc7CqAqN7 Cream stout, PB Porter, Hefe, Apricot Sour, Blueberry Wheat, Irish red and Brown Ale
    everything was top notch and cheap, no masks, and the PB Porter is truly World class, 5/5 will recommend

  36. Pope Jimbo

    Local high school principal goes on rant about lack of policing and chaos in her neighborhood.

    Cops vs. Educators. Great, just the cripple fight I wanted.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Her description of the decline of civic order is painful: people have stopped obeying traffic signals, are racing in the streets, and so on.

      Congratulations, you’ve made it to Philly status.

    • Drake

      I say it’s time to defund the schools!

    • Suthenboy

      Yeah, yeah. The people of Minneapolis are getting what they voted for, good and hard. Those commie sacks of shit didnt get into office by accident. Anyone that expected anything different is a complete fool.

      How many of those principles have been indoctrinating children for years with commie horseshoe? Looking at their ages I know many of them remember the USSR. What did they think was going to happen?

      • Tundra

        Half the people didn’t vote for that Suthen.

        Kind of an important point.

    • Homple

      This has been coming since 1967 and education bureaucrats have had plenty to do with enabling it. Tough shit.

    • Suthenboy

      Oikophobia is a real thing.

    • Ozymandias

      I suspect we will see more of this. Do you know why?
      1. Because for most of these women, from the word go it was about the attention they could get from being black and never about actually being black.
      2. And now getting attention by apologizing for “taking up space as a black woman” gets attention, too.

      Notice the tone of the articles. They’re not being called frauds and hypocrites, they’re not being shamed and chased from the public space – they’re getting articles in the paper – same as they got for lying in the first place. It’s all performance art for attention.
      This is true for a whole bunch of the “transgender LGBPQRSTUV+% and I use the pronouns amisarewaswere” horseshit, too. We’ve elevated people with mental illness to the status of public persona simply because they mouth the most recent leftist progressive horseshit, good and hard.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    WTF?

    Throngs of voters faced long lines and coronavirus precautions at polling centers in four states on Friday to cast ballots in the 2020 election, describing their choice to vote early and in-person as necessary this year.
    In-person early voting began in Minnesota, South Dakota, Virginia and Wyoming on Friday.
    Amid fears of the coronavirus pandemic, officials are anticipating an unprecedented amount of mailed ballots as voters look to avoid going to polling centers, where the virus could spread. But Friday, scores of voters turned out to cast early ballots, making both a political and health decision to participate in an election in which concerns about the integrity of the voting process, fueled by President Donald Trump, have spread in recent weeks.

    “I don’t trust the mail right now, that’s why (I’m voting today). If I got to stand here all day, I’m going to vote today,” Jim O’Conner, a voter in Fairfax County, Virginia, told CNN.

    Voting in September? Biden could be institutionalized by November.

    NO BACKSIES.

    • invisible finger

      They want to make sure they cast their ballots before they die of Covid

      • db

        If a person votes by mail in September but dies before the official election day, what happens? What is supposed to happen, legally?

      • blackjack

        That’s why we lost our

      • blackjack

        Dammit! freedom!

    • Rebel Scum

      Election day should be election DAY*.

      *Barring extenuating circumstances that would allow absentee.

      • The Hyperbole

        Why not election second, every precinct should have to have a venue large enough for every eligible voter to attend and then at exactly 12:05:31 pm we count the ayes and the nays of the people present, that’s it. No absentee ballots whatsoever, no you didn’t “have” to be out of state for work, you chose work over your civic duty. Yes some people may be incapacitated through no fault of their own but shit happens, broke your legs three days before election second? sorry about your luck, show up at the Grotto Hall at noon or piss off with the excuses.

      • Rebel Scum

        *Ahem*

        *Barring extenuating circumstances that would allow absentee.

      • The Hyperbole

        Seriously why a day and why allow only some exceptions for absentee? I know I went absurdism there but my point is that it’s all arbitrary anyway, I don’t see how “election day” is inherently superior to “election week” or “election second”

      • Tundra

        I totally agree. If it’s so fucking important, act like it!

      • blackjack

        How about 4 fucking years? You could vote against the sitting president on his first day in office? Since most people seem to just pick a color and vote blindly for that. Besides, absentee just means, don’t really want to travel three blocks, right?

      • blackjack

        Sorry, I got jacked out of voting last time. The fucking rat democrats reduced the polling places to (literally) about a third of the previous number. That way, the lines were so long that anyone with a job couldn’t deal with the wait, and the more “adjustable” mail ins made the only real difference. That’s why I get so mad when they bitch abut requiring I.D. to vote. Every single time they accuse, they are actually admitting. Without fail.

      • db

        Interesting. One way to game the vote in this way would be to concentrate the polling places, then pay people not registered to vote to just stand in line, and get out of line at some point before they would have to go in to vote, then return to the end of the line.

      • blackjack

        It’s not a joke. The line at my polling place (the new one) was about 50 people.

      • blackjack

        Bear in mind, this was after they stole the 2018 elections by mail in vote fraud. These people are crooked as all get out.

      • Suthenboy

        You are right. We need enough time to search car trunks for lost ballots.

      • blackjack

        For two hundred and something fucking years, we’ve been able to to vote on one day. I set aside about an hour on that day to cruise over the three fucking blocks and ink-a-dot my choices. I have to verify my name and address, and use the the little flip machine to ink in my votes. It’s not rocket science, and it’s not fraud proof, but I voice my opinion on that day. Fuck the crooked fucks who won’t abide by that system. They only want to cheat. I would happily show my ID, and I wish I had to. I’ve seen what happens to state that enables the cheating fucks. They cheat and they win. Then, they act like they own you.

      • The Hyperbole

        Wiki says it was a 34 day period before 1845, so I’m going with the wisdom of the founders on this one and say give us a month.

      • blackjack

        However long it takes you to get there, on horseback, I guess. Btw, what changed in 1846?

      • Homple

        Made sense when returns were posted by horse instead of digital electronic telecommunications.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Down with the Australian ballot. Make America vote again!

    • Florida Man

      Damn I thought florida did early voting. We’re not until October 3 rd I think

      • Brett L

        Ballots could be dropped off at our library as of September 8

      • Florida Man

        Really? I drive by the library every day and just wait until they put out the early voting sign, then wheel on in.

    • Gadfly

      I’m in favor of early voting, but I think nearly two months is excessive. Two weeks strikes me as the right amount of time. All the debates and electioneering and “surprises” should be done by then, plus it strikes a balance between convenience and election security.

      • l0b0t

        I’m quite ambivalent about the voting window prior to election day. I am adamantly and eternally opposed to allowing ANY ballots to be accepted after that arbitrary day.

      • Gadfly

        I agree. No receipts once the count starts (which is typically election day). Too much room for fraud if new ballots can be turned in after people see what the numbers are looking like.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        this.

        IMO, the regime should be 2-3 weeks of early voting at major precincts. Election day voting at all precincts. Mail-in for verified absentee voters with enough foresight to register and prove their absentee status in time.

        Oh, and vote fraud is a “strip your citizenship” offense.

    • Drake

      Big boobs and tight sweaters – classic.

    • Rebel Scum

      Because Trump is earning their vote?

      • Homple

        No fair!

    • Suthenboy

      Listening to the left reminds me of my days working at a mental hospital.

    • Sean

      Lol!

      • TARDis

        I hope you have some pitchers of milk or sour cream handy, you evil bastard.

      • Sean

        Those are only habaneros.

    • Tulip

      Totally stealing that!

  38. mikey

    I happened to notice a group of kids today walking home from school. They all had backpacks – large backpacks. They looked like they were going into the back country for the weekend. WTF is in those things? The smaller kids looked they were straining under the load.

    • db

      Plate armor, hopefully.

      • Homple

        C Rations from the school lunch program?

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Because a lot of people seem to be of the opinion that lots of homework = great teaching.

    • Brett L

      My kid looks like that. But all honesty, he has a lunchbox, a spiral notebook, and a set of headphones stuffed in there. Not like when I was in HS and I had a locker in the track locker room that was on the other side of the school from everything and I had to carry half a day’s worth of text books at a time.

  39. Rebel Scum

    Dang, girl.

    This week, Gabbard introduced the Election Fraud Prevention Act, co-sponsored by Rep. Rodney Davis (R-IL), that would amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to ban federal payments to states that allow ballot harvesting. …

    Gabbard said in a statement.:

    This bill protects assistance from family members, household members, and caregivers as well as election officials and mail carriers acting in their official capacity. Voters will still have assistance, if they need it, to turn in their vote, but this bill makes sure that third-party special interest groups don’t get between voters and the ballot box.

    • Tundra

      Operation Tulsi should commence immediately. This is a stupid proggie who could be turned to the truth.

      I volunteer.

      No, no. It’s too perilous for you guys.

      I’ll do it.

      • Rebel Scum

        I saw her first!

        I’ll whisper sweet nothings from ‘The Law’ into her ear.

      • Tundra

        Bah. I’ll give her a “Hot Rothbard” and it will be all over. We’ll have DOUBLED the number of libertarians in the House. BOOM!

      • Gadfly

        Well, she’s not going to be in Congress after January, so you won’t benefit from turning her.

      • Mad Scientist

        It may be a diminishing return, but I think Tundra should try as hard as he can. He may have to keep trying, over, and over, and over again.

      • Tundra

        You gotta do what the job demands.

        Wish me luck, people.

    • Sean

      ???

    • Drake

      WTF? Why is he looking Anderson in the eye and walking towards him while talking about gay bathhouses and round the clock sex?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I think that was forty years ago, at least.

      • blackjack

        The heyday of gay bath houses?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The outrage against them.

        I guess that outrage made it into the eighties, but didn’t survive the nineties.

      • Mojeaux

        Was expecting Barry Manilow. I am disappoint.

      • Surly Knott

        The movie does not disappoint.

      • Suthenboy

        Was it Lyndon LaRouche that was going to send the National Guard in tanks down bath house row in Chicago to shut down the bath houses?

    • Cancelled

      Biden is senile. If gay men want to have indiscriminate sex in bath houses, or wherever, or straiught men, or women of whatever flavor, it is not my business. That is between them and whatever God or gods, or nothingness out there. Having unprotected anal sex exposes the ‘catcher” to a high risk of STD infection and with a disease as hard to catch as AIDS ends up being the principle vector. It is not homophobic to recognize that. It is also not a moral judgment. The same book of the Bible that condemns homosexuality also condemns fornication. Homosexual conduct is sinful in Christianity and Judaism. So is any other extramarital sex. Judge as you are willing to be judged. (not directed to you Count)

  40. Rebel Scum

    Dang, girl.

    The ladies of @TheView didn’t like what I had to say, so naturally they cut me off.

    Why are they silencing Black Women?

    Hey, @JoyVBehar — I think your White Privilege is showing through your blackface!

  41. Rebel Scum

    It’s almost like there is a difference between giving a speech and an interview.

    At his Wisconsin rally last night, President Donald Trump continued to tease former Vice President Joe Biden for relying on a teleprompter when he answers queries from the media. While teleprompter use is very common for politicians and others giving formal speeches, Biden is the first candidate to regularly use one outside of formal speeches, such as during press conferences. …

    Mocking Biden for teleprompter use during what are supposed to be unscripted moments is not a generic attack on the use of automated technology to read a speech. But that’s precisely what many media figures claimed during Trump’s latest mention of Biden’s curious practice. Take a look at some examples:

    • Suthenboy

      I want to know who is feeding him answers. Who is typing on the teleprompter?

      • Gender Traitor

        Cyrano de Bergerac?

      • Mad Scientist

        Reporter: Mr. Biden, you’ve stated that President Trump’s handling of the pandemic has been disgraceful. Can you tell us how you would have handled it differently?

        Biden: Love grew apace, rocked by the anxious beating. . .Of this poor heart, which the cruel wanton boy. . .Took for a cradle!

      • TARDis

        Then Biden farted and turned his arms upward, waving his arms up and down in Jill’s direction. She grimaced at the stench, and smiled weakly, tasting it in her mouth. She beckoned to Joe.

        She thought, ” I just have a graduate degree in bullshit, but I really want to be First Lady.”

      • Count Potato

        “Beat it up, nigga, catch a charge
        Extra large and extra hard
        Put this pussy right in your face
        Swipe your nose like a credit card”

    • Rebel Scum

      Kosovo’s awarded U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday with one of the country’s highest honors for his government’s efforts on peace and reconciliation in the former war-torn region.

      President Hashim Thaci awarded Trump with Kosovo’s Order of Freedom “for his exceptional contribution for the freedom of Kosovo and the strengthening of Peace and reconciliation in the region.”

      *runs off to CNN*

      No mention. Fascinating.

    • Mad Scientist
      • Tundra

        Awesome! Happy pups!

      • l0b0t

        Beautiful. NOLA has the Krewe of Barkus. I remember the 1st couple parades and it was 30 or 40 people with costumed dogs, going from bar to bar ; it’s gotten quite big.

      • Tulip

        Babe and I have been part of the St Patrick’s Day parade with other greyhounds.

      • Tulip

        Babs

    • db

      I read that as “Tractor Paradise”

  42. Gustave Lytton

    Hey Tundra, might have to step over the dead bodies during your visit.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2020/09/the-way-they-were-meant-to-learn-bend-la-pine-plans-to-return-youngest-pupils-to-classrooms-weeks-ahead-of-schedule.html

    ne letter read during public comment, from an elementary teacher who wished to remain anonymous, attacked the school board and district leaders for bowing to parent pressure and suddenly flipping the reopening plan, which caught some teachers off guard.

    “Changing the plan on us two days into the school year is extremely manipulative and speaks volumes about the district prioritizing parent and community optics more than the needs, if not health, of K-3 staff,”

    What? Schools aren’t ran for the benefit of staff?? GFY. That teacher should be terminated on the spot.

    • Tundra

      Good for them. If the cases don’t justify it, get moving!

      I’m more concerned about the goddamn fires, though.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Rain was pretty good last night and today. Should get rain again in a week. If the wet weather starts then and continues, smoke might not be so bad in a month.

      • dontreadonme

        The fires have moved game around quite a bit. My mom who lives in central Oregon well away from normal elk range heard one bugling from her porch this morning.

  43. Gender Traitor

    So as I’ve mentioned, for a while we had a female cat (“Gracie”) showing up on our front porch, and we were giving her food and water. Then she disappeared, and a male cat (“Grady”) started showing up, so we gave HIM food and water. We decided to adopt him and took him to the vet. He turned out to have a mild infection, so he’s been treated and is “under quarantine” from our other cat in Tom T’s office until he’s recovered and goes back for his scheduled neutering next Tuesday.

    Tom T opened the front door a little while ago so Alpha Cat (“Snot”) could look out the screen. Gracie’s back. ::facepalm::

    • TARDis

      They’re like women. They have a network.

    • Ted S.

      I’m glad Gracie is OK.

      • Gender Traitor

        Thanks. So are we. It’s just….now what? We do NOT want a third cat – it’s a bad idea to be outnumbered by the cats.

    • blackjack

      And that’s how my wife gets 4-5 of them. Luckily we only have two official cats and one porch cat, right now. She said ( about porch cat) “he’s a good cat.” I replied ” I know, he’s saving his owners a bunch of money on food by eating here!”

    • Florida Man

      Is Tom T short for Tom Turkey? Because now I have an image in my head of you being married to an anthropomorphic Turkey.

      • Gender Traitor

        Tom Teriffic, AKA Mr. GT. He misspells “Teriffic” on purpose just because that was the only way he could claim that screen name on AOL back in the day. Not usually a turkey, jive or otherwise.

    • Suthenboy

      I have had cats all of my life but I am done with them. I always had indoor cats and that means a litter box. Frequently heard from wife – “Can you move the litter box? That place it is in now is not a good place.”

      Me – “It is a box of shit. There is no good place in the house for a box of shit. I have already used every location a dozen times. None of them are good because….it is a box full of shit. ”

      I will never have a litter box again and outside cats are not safe here. There are too many wild critters here that think cats are snacks.

      *Tried to potty train a pair of cats to use the toilet but my efforts were in vain. I waited until they were just a bit too old. It was almost successful….which means failure.
      I think this is the one I used: https://litterkwitter.com/?doing_wp_cron=1600471437.2776880264282226562500

      • Tulip

        But there’s nothing like a cup of cocoa, a nice fire, and a kitty purring on your lap.

      • TARDis

        Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of… “Stop digging holes in my shirt, asshoe!”

        ^^^ Wife.

      • Tulip

        That’s often me. My cat is an asshole.

      • Mojeaux

        Also my boy-cat is asshoe.

      • Mojeaux

        I do not have a cup of cocoa or a fire.

        But I DO have a warm sleeping kitty in my lap. Cats are awesome.

      • Rhywun

        The best place for a litter box is one where they will use it – they’ll let you know if it’s in the wrong spot. Also, the right spot can change without warning.

      • Tulip

        Despite my cat’s assholeness, he is the best cat ever for three reasons: 1) when I most need to hold him, he lets me, 2) he has never messed outside his litter box, 3) he only barfs on the hard floor. I’ve never had a cat do that before, they always run to the rug before puking, except this one. Only on the hard floor.

      • TARDis

        Only on the hard floor

        Ours used to be like that. Now it’s everywhere. 🙁

      • The Hyperbole

        You are supposed to train them to shit in the toilet and then flush, I’ve seen video of this so I know it’s possible.

      • Rebel Scum

        My parents have a cat that pees in the toilet. They didn’t train her so idk how/why that happened.

    • Tulip

      Sooo,, you’ve got two new cats. Congratulations!

    • Rhywun

      Watch out – they’re addictive.

    • blackjack

      That’s how my wife ends up with 4-5 cats. Luckily, right now we only have two official cats and one porch cat. My wife said ( about porch cat) ” he’s a good cat.” I replied ” yeah, he’s saving his owners a bunch of money eating our food instead”

    • Cancelled

      I presently have a feral (I think wild born, but others are convinced feral) momma cat and her 5 kittens living in my house. She is insanely afraid of humans, like quivering staring and bolting/fighting/biting at any contact afraid of humans. This along with the 2 dogs 1 cat and a ferret compliment of pets that reside here.

      • Rhywun

        Aw 🙁

        Ferals are bad news. Hope it works out somehow.

      • Cancelled

        The kittens are adorable. 1 black, 1 dirty white, 1 ginger and 2 tabbies.

      • Rhywun

        I suspected feral of my Betty – it took her years to turn into a sweet, normal kitty but she did.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    “Changing the plan on us two days into the school year is extremely manipulative and speaks volumes about the district prioritizing parent and community optics more than the needs, if not health, of K-3 staff,”

    Da noive o’ dem guys, expectin’s youse ta woik.

  45. one true athena

    Holy shit. RBG has died.

    • KibbledKristen

      I’m definitely staying off the Facederp for a while

      • one true athena

        Right? I can’t imagine the screeching incoming.

      • KibbledKristen

        My filters are working! Huzzah!

      • one true athena

        Just added Ginsburg and abortion.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Thats gonna make not only this weekend interesting, but the next 50 days even that more crazy….

      The left just might get its warm

      • Ownbestenemy

        War…whatever, phone keyboard jumped.

      • Sean

        Ammo prices just intensified.

    • blackjack

      Can we get an S/C confirmation in 6 weeks? Dog knows what that’s going to do to turnout.

      • TARDis

        I don’t know, but if Connies had testicles, they could get it done in a week.

        “We know you just want to obstruct, so Nuke Option in Play. We vote tomorrow. Fuck off, commies.”

      • IRBE

        More like 14 weeks…Jan 20th.

      • Nephilium

        Considering the Republicans have the Senate, it’s very possible. I expect much yelling, screaming, tears, and swearing.

        That’s what you get for not retiring when your team was in charge.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Elections have consequences

      • Suthenboy

        I hope that guy one day goes to his grave in great agony for a protracted period of time. Not because of any of the awful, nasty vindictive things he did for this country but for what he did to Libya and the rest of the Middle East.

        Now Trump is making peace break out all over the ME and the useless, lying sacks of shit in the media won’t even report on it.

    • Rhywun

      OMG.

    • Cancelled

      Ok, odds on civil war 2 bloodbath boogaloo just hit 3:1. Flip as this comment sounds I am genuinely afraid right now.

      • Ownbestenemy

        It puts the Senate into play more than it was.

        So politically, if internal polls are good for Repubs and messaging is good…+1 for them.

        If they push the confirmation prior to election, it runs the risk of non-stop ads how Repubs “killed” RGB to usher in an abortion ban.

      • IRBE

        Wait till after the election. If it is lame duckie…no worries the Senate is just an advise and consent, which is lame anyway

      • DWB

        Democrats love baby-killing at least TWICE as much as owning black folks and we know what happened when the Republicans tried to take them away!!!!

    • Suthenboy

      Yikes, as if this election season wasn’t already the shit-storm of a lifetime.
      Instinct tells me Trump is going to win and the left is going to lose their collective mind to the point of starting the shooting. We might be in for a rough ride.

      So who is on Trump’s short list?

      • blackjack

        Dunno, but Biden should release his list. And, it should have one name, CornPop!

      • blackjack

        Bullhorn: “Who do we protect? CornPop!”

  46. KibbledKristen

    Ruth Bader Ginsburg died…her timing is impeccable

    • commodious spittoon

      Trump should nominate Garland. Really make some heads spin.

      • TARDis

        I’d love to hear the lawyerly Glibs choices. The only one I can think of right off hand is Barrett.

      • Ted S.

        Eugene Volokh.

        (I of course am not a lawyer.)

      • KibbledKristen

        Willett!!

      • commodious spittoon

        You Willett fangirls really make a guy question himself. How are we supposed to live up to unrealistic expectations like that?

      • KibbledKristen

        He is…charmant

    • The Hyperbole

      Why would the left lie about her being alive and trot out doubles for the last few years only to admit that she’s dead now, does this somehow hurt Donny? I’m no political strategist but I’m not seeing the end game here.

      • one true athena

        Get more Dem enthsiasm to vote. There’s little enthusiasm for Biden, and given Pelosi’s abrupt face on the rioting yesterday, some were speculating their internal poilling was very bad. And you know the left is terrified of a 6-2 COAT-HANGERS IN THE ALLEYS majority. Planned Parenthood alone will spend an extra billion probably in the election now.

      • Count Potato

        An extra billion of our tax money.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Hyperbole meet hyperbole. 😉

      • Cancelled

        Not sure anyone made a comment this is a valid response to.

      • ruodberht

        …what?

    • Sean

      Doh!

    • Raven Nation

      Yeah, the insanity is going to get amped up.

    • The Hyperbole

      87, far too young RIP, RGB.

    • Ownbestenemy

      If wishes were kittens…

      Just days before her death, Ginsburg dictated this statement to her granddaughter: “My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed,” according to NPR.

      • KibbledKristen

        No way Congress will vote on anyone, even if Trump nominates someone, after the Garland episode

      • Urthona

        Congress doesn’t need to. The Senate does. And now there’s a real Republican majority, unlike when Kavanaugh was appointed and a few squishy repubs could hold the whole thing up.

      • westernsloper

        Wanna bet? I got five bucks.

      • KibbledKristen

        I hear talking heads saying they’ll ram it through, and I hear talking heads say they ain’t. I say ain’t. Not gonna bet my easily-earned $5 on it – I don’t purport to understand these people and their machinations.

      • westernsloper

        BGAAAAAAK BGAAAAAAK!

      • KibbledKristen

        Murkowski sez no. (I know nothing about her – she must be a Never Trumper?)

      • commodious spittoon

        a new president is installed

        Do you just double-click the icon?

    • IRBE

      Let the pants shitting begin. Mitch, line up the hearings this weekend.

    • Urthona

      really thought she was gonna make it through the Trump administration.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Well that should bring the stakes down a little for the election.

      Jesus, there’s going to be full blown warfare before this is over.

      • Urthona

        this is gonna be great.

      • EvilSheldon

        Well, if shit’s gonna get real, let’s have it happen while I’m young and in-shape enough to make a difference…

    • TARDis
    • Suthenboy

      Champion of gender equality, my ass.

      • commodious spittoon

        Getting your unwanted progeny scraped out of your womb is, like, super self-affirming for a girl.

  47. DWB

    Ooh … it’s about to get REAL!!!!!!!

    I pray that God may have mercy on Ginsburg’s soul.

  48. The Late P Brooks

    Show me something even correlative showing an effect on infections in mask versus no mask populations.

    If I’m one of those “knee-jerk” mask refuseniks, I can live with that. I have been called worse things. I want to see a definitive practical effect, not a bunch of wishful thinking, hocus-pocus and arm waving. “Maybe it could work” doesn’t cut it.

    Where are the fifty thousand corpses in the streets of Sturgis? Why isn’t everybody who flew maskless in a commercial airliner during the months of March and April on a respirator, or dead?

    Shit, maybe Robert Reich is right. A 96% marginal tax rate really might bring forth a new era of wealth, innovation and brotherhood. I say we give it a try.

    • Urthona

      well there was an early correlation where states that implemented mask mandates saw case drops.

      i’m not gonna bother to look for it though because i don’t give a shit and they probably had the cause and effect reversed and also it doesn’t mean dick anyway.

      • westernsloper

        well there was an early correlation where states that implemented mask mandates saw case drops.

        Uuuh, bullshit. From what I have seen case’s were on a decline and the mask mandates did fuck all other than give the totalitarians something to point at by saying “look at the decline when we imposed mask mandates as cases were declining”. There is no proof masks caused any decline and may have even caused an uptick of cases in some places.

      • Urthona

        they were probably on the decline. there’s still a correlation they’re trying to cling to.

      • Drake

        The states that killed thousands in nursing homes saw a big drop after a couple of months.

    • Cancelled

      Shit, maybe Robert Reich is right. A 96% marginal tax rate really might bring forth a new era of wealth, innovation and brotherhood. I say we give it a try.

      would be a valid response to me saying wear a mask, but it seems sketchy as a response to

      But when you guys make blanket claims about how wearing masks at the store is useless and evil you sound like a bunch of 911 truthers, and that is not a compliment. I am completely on your side about masks in your office, that is stupid because you are there for hours and any minor effect is almost certainly overcome by other vectors, but that is not the whole story anymore than “masks = safety” is.

      • Ozymandias

        Cnxd – I hate to jump in here, but you did exactly what you claim the “knee-jerkers” are doing.
        Your entire conjecture for masks working is that “stopping some portion of exhaled material has some effect.” I’ve noticed this mantra throughout this entire fiasco by the compulsory mask crowd. It has some seemingly logical/commonsense appeal, but it is in no way scientific. This idea doesn’t even rise to the level of hypothesis. Not even close. There are an incredible amount of confounding variables at play, including our own breath blowing into our face (especially our eyes, which are not really meant to have germ ridden exhalation forced into them), the continuous use of what amounts to nothing more than dirty rags being breathed in and out, reduced O2 sat levels from breathing in your own CO2 (something I have a good bit of unusual experience with), increased tendency for people to touch their face while wearing these pisspoor excuses for a mask, and on and on and on. The assertion that a mask stops something, therefore it must be doing something positive to reduce the spread ignores all of those confounding variables and makes a logical leap akin to Evil Kneivel over the Grand Canyon. You’re not on any kind of solid scientific ground here, despite how righteous you may feel. Perhaps dial it down a bit.
        Second – You jump right to the “only experts can have opinions on this subject!!” while you yourself are claiming some kind of knowledge you simply don’t have.
        Third, there is a pretty good body of medical evidence overall to suggest that our immune systems NEED to be exposed to the environment in order to make them robust enough to survive when something truly serious arrives. The masks, keeping kids out of school, etc., in that sense are actually counterproductive and harmful to overall public health. How much so? I don’t know any more than you know that the “masks must do something.” If I suggested that your kids should be intentionally exposed to diseases simply because we know generally that exposure helps overall public health, I’m going to guess you’d be a knee-jerk guy in the exact opposite direction, too.
        Fourth, the people knee-jerk reacting to it are reacting that way because of all of the associated hypocritical horseshit we’ve witnessed from those who have passed the mask mandates. If Pelosi really believed it was serious, you’d know it. Ditto for all the rest of the people pushing these mask mandates.
        Fifth, 2.3 million people die annually, the majority of them from shitty diets and the associated disease states that arise from hyperinsulinimia. If the “just wear the mask” is left unchallenged, how long before govt gets to tell me what I can and can’t eat and drink? Lest you think this is hyperbole I can point you to reams of information on Coca Cola’s (and the entire ABA’s) underwriting of the “Exercise is Medicine” program, where exercise will be regulated by the government and only certain types will be allowed. As it is right now, diet advice is already regulated in many states and you’ll be shocked at who set up those 501(c)(3)’s that now tell us what is “approved dietary advice.”
        Sixth – I’m a fuck the masks guy, too, because your feelings – which is what your opinion on the mask thing really is – is no mandate on me. I love you (and I mean that sincerely) and if we ever meet in person, I’ll give you a big smooch and a hug, but the people pushing back on the mask horseshit are correct.

      • blackjack

        Wordy, but I agree.

        More importantly, there’s no legal justification for any mandate. Ditto, business closures and gathering limits. It’s all bullshit.

      • blackjack

        Sorry, legal OR moral justification.

      • Ozymandias

        Wordy, but I agree.

        Guilty.

      • westernsloper

        Wordy,

        Dudes a lawyer. He can’t help it.

      • Cancelled

        I’m a fuck the masks guy, too, because your feelings – which is what your opinion on the mask thing really is – is no mandate on me. I love you (and I mean that sincerely) and if we ever meet in person, I’ll give you a big smooch and a hug, but the people pushing back on the mask horseshit are correct.

        You do not know my feelings on the mask thing. I personally wear a mask only when required to wear one by a business or when a client asks me to wear one during a meeting. My anger, and comments, are purely based on the talisman of “wearing a mask is subservience to the man” that you and others (more than you) are expressing. Personally I hate the damn things. But I hate rationalization more. Let me ask a question more clsoe to your home to try and make my position clear. Would you try to persuade people to not voluntarily take the anthrax vaccine because you oppose people being forced to take it? My position is that those two things, regardless of my opinion about which side is correct (more accurately more correct as it is unclear that either the vaccine is 0% effective or the vaccine is always dangerous) are identical morally.

        It is largely irrelevant to my point whether mask work or not.

      • Ozymandias

        I get your point, Chafed. WRT to vaccines, I don’t try to convince anyone about the AVA or any vaccine. I gave up on that long ago – the good guys lost. I wrote a book on the subject and that will almost assuredly be completely ignored. (I think it’s sold about 40 copies total or something like that).
        WRT the masks, I spent considerable time in China and I would say it’s about 50/50 people wearing them. Mask wearing per se doesn’t bother me, but that’s not the current environment. It’s not like Americans just voluntarily and spontaneously started wearing masks and then we all said, “THIS IS HORSESHIT!!!”
        That’s not what’s going on. This is decidedly a “just wear the lapel pin” case. We Glibs have talked around and around about how disappointed we are at the lack of spine in our fellow citizens. Now they’re finally pushing back and I for one am inclined to encourage, reward, and incentivize such behavior with my support for it.

      • blackjack

        Problem is, mandates exist. Absent that, we’d be discussing effectiveness. Nevermind that the “experts” sharply warned against wearing them at first ( as if they only recently thought about masks as a measure against respiratory virus’s) then did a 180 and mandated them. Nobody really cares if you want to wear one. Hell, I sure don’t. It’s when you force one on to me that I bristle. Enough forcing and I hate the fucking things and everything they stand for. Reason number 5 brazillion not to dominate your fellow man.

      • Count Potato

        “There are an incredible amount of confounding variables at play, including our own breath blowing into our face (especially our eyes, which are not really meant to have germ ridden exhalation forced into them), the continuous use of what amounts to nothing more than dirty rags being breathed in and out, reduced O2 sat levels from breathing in your own CO2 (something I have a good bit of unusual experience with), increased tendency for people to touch their face while wearing these pisspoor excuses for a mask, and on and on and on.”

        That’s not wearing a mask, that’s wearing a mask wrong.

      • Ozymandias

        That’s not wearing a mask, that’s wearing a mask wrong.

        Our betters insist (as Chafed did initially) essentially that “wearing something, anything, is better than nothing.” And so that’s why people are wearing bandanas, pulling tee shirts over their mouth, and doing otherwise silly and pointless shit. My talismask (#Glibsstore!) causes my warm, moist breath to blow into my eyes, no matter how I adjust it.

        I’m well aware of how to wear a real mask properly. Again, that’s not what’s going on. You can argue about hypotheticals that aren’t what we’re living, but I’m talking about the current situation and defending people who are revolting against mask mandates.

      • blackjack

        There’s solid arguments that the current status quo is ineffective. Who cares? The current status quo is illegal and immoral. Period.

      • Ozymandias

        Finally, a trite quote from Holmes when he was actually correct:
        “The life of the law has been experience, not logic.”
        The “logical” assertion that masks must do something may be logical, but it may also be completely wrong.

  49. The Late P Brooks

    Ooh … it’s about to get REAL!!!!!!!

    I pray that God may have mercy on Ginsburg’s soul.

    Ruh-roh…

    • mexican sharpshooter

      I owe Mad Scientist $1

      • Mad Scientist

        If we live through this, I’m gonna collect too.

  50. Chipwooder

    Hillary probably smothered her with a pillow. Dont give me that look, you know you’re all thinking it

  51. mexican sharpshooter

    Did we discuss Ginsburg yet? My internet is wonky today.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Who? Did Cal win?

    • Nephilium

      Why? Did something happen?

    • TARDis

      Who? Never heard of her.

    • Mad Scientist

      No more than Lou Reed.

      • TARDis

        Lou Reed for SCOTUS!

        Sings, “Sweet Ruth!”

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Look, it was either this gag, or I toss out a link and say “Thicc?”.

      I stand by me decision.

      • Ozymandias

        Solid, Mexi. Go with the theme, but I hadn’t heard it.
        Holy shit, did things just get fucking 1000X crazier or what!?!!

      • mexican sharpshooter

        …I plan to clean my rifle tonight.

  52. Mojeaux

    Time Magazine’s Person of the Year 2020: Mayhem

    • commodious spittoon
      • Mojeaux

        Most excellent.

      • commodious spittoon

        He’s the beeper king!

      • Mojeaux

        d00d– come to the zoom

  53. The Late P Brooks

    “My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed,” according to NPR.

    Tough luck, Shirley.

    • IRBE

      Win, lose or draw…Trump will get to nominate. Fun, fun, fun…

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Fun, fun, fun…

        All of which was preventable by leaving the court while Obama was in office.

      • TARDis

        If I start fapping right now while watching MSNBC, will you all think (even) less of me? OMG the fuckwittedness is orgasmic.

    • Drake

      Like everything else she wrote, I don’t give a shit.

  54. The Late P Brooks

    Not evil. Absurd.

    And my original comment, to which you responded, was “masks in theory, or masks in practice?”

    Because masks in practice are overwhelmingly pointless, and are nothing more than a show of obeisance to SCIENCE and the “common good”.

    • Cancelled

      Mandates are a show of obeisance to IFLS. Masks are not the same thing as mandates, just as gun control laws are not the same thing as knowing how to use, and more importantly when to use, a gun. Jim Crow laws were wrong, not because they kept black people separate from white people, but because they mandated that separation from above. Civil Rights laws that mandate integration are equally wrong because they ban such voluntary separation. There is nothing inherently good (or evil) about either integration or segregation. The good will be found individually as people do what they prefer. The evil comes in when people are prevented from making the choice themselves. Masks, whatever their effectiveness, should be an individual (and venue) choice. I am quite skeptical about their effect (as I am about the benfits of either forced or prohibited integration). I am not arguing for mask wearing, nor am I arguing against it. I am arguing against political/emotional responses to other people’s decisions.

      • Ozymandias

        That’s a much more measured response Cnx’d – one with which I agree. But let’s not pretend that masks are optional because that’s not what has everyone’s hackles up. Because they are very much mandates. Hell, a candidate for President just flip-flopped and said he has the authority to order them for the entire country.
        As WebDom noted last night, restaurants are being fined real money for customers simply forgetting to wear one while getting up from a table and going to the bathroom. I don’t think I’m out on a limb suggesting that the pushback isn’t over the fact of someone wearing a mask of their own volition.
        And RBG croaked!!! Holy shit!!!

      • Tundra

        I linked a story last night about a restaurant here that was fined $7K because an employee had the wrong fucking type of mask.

        Seven. Thousand. Dollars.

        Time to move on, boys.

      • Cancelled

        It is the same position I expressed above. I oppose mandates. I oppose shaming/mocking people for wearing masks. I oppose blanket statements about effectiveness/ineffectiveness.

        if people here cannot comprehend the distiction between opposing mask mandates and opposing masks, and persist in insistsing that mask wearing is evil in order to oppose thise who insist it is the path of virtue I am joining JB and bolting.

        was the thesis statement of my initial post. (and god I need a proofreader and edit button, especially after 10 ounces of 1776 Rye (which by the way is tasty, the initial bitterness fades))

      • Ozymandias

        Fair enough. Your original response to Tundra made scientific assertions justifying your opinion and that was what I reacted to. I agree, no mask-shaming for people who want to wear them, but I’m 100% against mandates.
        The problem is, however, that the people wearing them aren’t just wearing them and following a “live and let live” policy to those of us opposed, so perhaps we could again argue about what the reality is that the anti-mask people are responding to and not a contrived hypothetical. The vast majority of people wearing masks (as I noted above) didn’t just suddenly decide they felt like it; they’re quite adamant that those of us who don’t want to are anti-science granny killers and that is what the “knee jerk” is about.
        In short, I’d like to note that the “knee jerk” followed getting hit on the knee with the hammer – and wasn’t just a dude kicking his leg without being whacked first.

  55. J. Frank Parnell

    OK, so which “respectable” mainstream media person will be the first to accuse Trump of murdering Ginsburg so that the SC will rubber stamp whatever nefarious means he uses to steal the election from Biden?

    • Ownbestenemy

      Cooper or one of the View cackles

    • Rhywun

      Toss-up between Joy Reid and Alyssa Milano.

      • Rhywun

        Dammit… I meant “Joy Behar”.

      • one true athena

        Nah, you were probably right the first time. Behar’s not smart enough to come up with it on her own, though she’ll gleefully spread it.

      • Rhywun

        I’m not familiar enough with Joy Reid to make that prediction – I dunno why that name popped into my head.

      • Count Potato

        Did you just imply Joy Reid was smart?

    • KibbledKristen

      Maddow

      • one true athena

        One of her psycho hangers-on while she sits there and nods. She probably won’t broach it herself, but she’ll give airtime to someone else to do it.

        Or Don Lemon. He’s good with conspiracy stuff.

      • commodious spittoon

        HE DID IT WITH THE SAME NEUROTOXIN PUTIN USES TO SILENCE HIS ENEMIES

  56. The Late P Brooks

    Models are not scientific studies. They are not “experiments”. They are not valid tests of real world phenomena.

    Models explicitly designed to support a predetermined conclusion are lies.

  57. The Late P Brooks

    All of which was preventable by leaving the court while Obama was in office.

    Did those gnarled claws look like they were capable of letting go of anything?

  58. Drake

    I’m remembering how the Dems beclowned themselves with Kavanuagh. Now imagine that shit show with Amy Coney Barrett sitting there. Are the Dems dumb enough to pull that shit again?

    • blackjack

      Put it this way, now we’re faced with the stupid/evil party and the merely stupid party.

  59. The Late P Brooks

    Masks, whatever their effectiveness, should be an individual (and venue) choice.

    But the claim has been made that my mask protects you, and your mask protects me. Because SCIENCE! Hence, there is no “personal responsibility option”. Declining to wear a mask is now not a personal choice, it’s depraved indifference. It’s a murderous disdain for the welfare of your fellow man.

    This is pernicious at its core. If this becomes the accepted consensus, there is nothing the government cannot force us to do.

    • blackjack

      Like provide health care to another person?

    • Cancelled

      I agree, but if the response is to do the same pernicious crap in the opposite direction I’m out. Maybe I am an overly effete and intellectual person. I often wonder about that, and recognize the appeal of punching back, but I cannot do it. You cannot defend personal choice by attacking those whose personal choice aligns with the other side. For the 100th time, I oppose mandates. I regard fining businesses over this as evil that must be opposed. But I also oppose boycotting businesses that require masks, or shaming mask wearers.

      • blackjack

        I’ve literally never heard anyone argue against voluntary mask wearing. I’ve heard arguments as to the effectiveness of it, but never an argument for prohibition. Your face, your choice. Similarly, if you choose to mandate I wear one in your business, it’s my choice to abstain. Win/win.

  60. Deplorableme

    So I wonder what if any effect this will be on the never-trumpers. Not the ones who decide not to vote at all, but the ones who are actively supporting Biden. If they can in any rational conscious pull for Biden, they what Republican values did they have in the first place? Trump is only around for another 4 years, but a SC justice is much longer and supreme court decisions longer than that, and from what I’ve seen his nominees are pretty close to the values that Republicans have.

    • Rhywun

      Judges are the single-most important reason to vote against Biden IMHO. So yeah, that is a very good question.

    • Drake

      Were they pushing for small government, tax cuts, border control, all those things other Republicans pretend to believe in? They don’t give a shit about anything except waging war against random shitholes.

      • blackjack

        No, they want power. Hopefully, Trump has shown them a way to get it that reduces our enslavement/servitude. All the power you want, bro, just leave me the fuck alone.

    • commodious spittoon

      They were rank power brokers then and they’ll be rank power brokers after today. They weren’t offended by Trump qua Trump but because Trump bellied them out of their party.

  61. EvilSheldon

    Odds that RBG will be found to have died of COVID?

    • TARDis

      I don’t know about that, but the veritably rehearsed response to her sudden death, tells me this was expected. I sounds like a MF’ing telethon.

      • TARDis

        *It*

      • commodious spittoon

        Can I get my RBG-branded tote bag?

    • Mojeaux

      They already spilled the pancreatic cancer beans.

      • EvilSheldon

        One of my best friends went out that way. I wouldn’t wish it upon my worst enemy, and RBG is damn close to that.

  62. Drake

    Being Jewish, do they have to bury her tomorrow?

    *Hoping there isn’t a week of dragging her corpse around on TV.

  63. The Late P Brooks

    But I also oppose boycotting businesses that require masks, or shaming mask wearers.

    I do not “shame” people who wear masks. Honestly. When I see people out in the fresh air and sunshine wearing masks, I surreptitiously roll my eyes., but I would never confront somebody for wearing one. Why bother? You leave me alone, I’ll leave you alone. Wear your Klan pillowcase, or your swastika, or your hammer and sickle, I have other shit to worry about.

    Boycott? I quit going to Costco when they imposed a corporate mask mandate when there was not one here. Fuck them. I stopped going to the bar I had been going to for years, because it seemed like every time I went in there, they had some new idiotic plague-related bullshit going on. The manager said, “They make the rules, and we just follow them.” Okay, fine. Will they go broke because I’m not in there? Not bloody likely, but I don’t care. I don’t need the aggravation.

    I seldom wear a mask. I have one wadded up in my pocket (very healthy), and if I am asked, I will put it on. I’m not going to waste my time arguing or belittling an employee (just following ORDERS), but I’m disgusted by this mass hysteria and propaganda campaign. I find it hard to think well of my fellow man, these days.

    • dontreadonme

      So what if the ‘next president’ is the same as the current one? Do they know something that we don’t?

      • DWB

        I think that they have already counted their chickens…

  64. The Late P Brooks

    Thought experiment time:

    Above, I linked to an early vote story, and implied a situation involving Biden. You know, what if he’s not available to start work in January?

    Well, what about President Cartoon Villain? And, specifically, what about the early voting NeverTrumpers. Would it even matter to the hard core NeverTrumpers? Maybe Pence is so tainted by his association with the Bad Orange Man he would not be recognized as legitimate. If The Donald chokes on a big Mac, or falls down the steps of Air Force One, or is taken out by a True Patriot, and Pence is sworn in, what happens to those ballots prematurely cast for Biden?

    Can you call up the local election board and ask for a do-over?