Most people have thought about learning to fly airplanes and a surprising number have taken an intro flight or a lesson or two. Are you a red-blooded American of means? A mile of road takes you 1 mile. A mile of runway can take you anywhere. I do it for the view, as soon as you’re above the treeline the world makes sense in a way that is not obvious on the ground.
Airplanes are ridiculously expensive and always have been, so let’s talk about money first. One of the things you learn about is that lift, the force that enables flight, is balanced by other forces. It is typically diagrammed as such:
This is incorrect.
Airplanes are actually held aloft by money. A more accurate diagram is:
I run a non-profit flying club and tell people thinking of joining that it will cost them $10,000-14,000 to earn their private pilot license. The legal minimum is 40 hours of instruction, but no-one does it that quickly, especially if you take 9+ months, which most do. 70-80 is average.
| 70 hours airplane rental | $120 | $8400 |
| 60 hours instructor time | $ 50 | $3000 |
| 9 months club dues or renters insurance | $100 | $ 900 |
| Book or online, headset, practical test | $1200 | $1200 |
| Total | $13,500 |
It’s a lot of money. If you don’t have it or can’t carve it out of your cash flow, save for it or let it go, please don’t spend a lot of money and then panic because you really want to finish but just can’t make it work. There are some cheaper ways to fly, such as powered paragliders, regular gliders and such, but you will find even those will set you back ¾ of the amount of plain airplane instruction. If you just want a taste, spend the $200 for an hour of instruction or demo flight, it is just plane fun for most people.
If you’re still with me, great! The first thing introduced is the parts of the airplane, the instruments and what they show/mean, the engine and the controls. Next, I’ll strap you in and demonstrate the controls. On the ground, the airplane is steered with your feet and it is just as awkward as it sounds initially. There is no reverse. I’ll have you taxi us out as best as you can, I’ll fix your big mistakes and take over if you’re not getting it. After a systems check, I’ll line us up on the runway and do the takeoff with your hands and feet on the controls so you can start to feel it out.
We’ll depart the pattern towards the practice area and I’ll have you do the flying, holding us straight and level at first. Next we’ll do some level turns: roll into the turn with the stick or yoke, apply a little back stick to correct for the lift exchanged for turn. This is what flying is all about, balancing forces to go where you want. To climb, add power and pull back gently on the stick to the angle that works. Check this angle through the windscreen and with the angle between the wings and ground. To descend, reduce the power then drop the nose a few degrees. Generally your climb angle is twice your descent angle and both are not much, 5 degrees down and 10 up are normal maximums.
Heading back to the airport, you’ll enter the traffic pattern generally 1000’ above the airport. Reduce the power to a get to a particular airspeed. Most airplanes have flaps, which increase lift and drag, slowing the airplane, so add the first increment and reduce power again, hold the altitude, reduce airspeed to a new target then start descending. Two turns to the left or right and a couple more flap changes and we are lined up on final on the final airspeed. Bank a little or change the heading a little to correct for any crosswind, add or reduce power to adjust your landing point. Once over the runway, throttle to idle if it isn’t already and slowly pull the nose up a few degrees in a flare to bleed off the airspeed and you touch down just as the lift stops. Maybe you did it all yourself, maybe I did most of it, but you’ll exhale hugely and not realize you were holding your breath as we slow to a stop.
That’s it, all the basics and you’ll do them all on your first lesson.
Each lesson just builds on those and variations on them. Climbing and descending turns, turns along a road or around a point so you get used to thinking about the wind. Stall avoidance and recovery. Flying to other airports. Checking the weather, dealing with air traffic control and talking on the radio.
And landing, always the landings: each one is unique and thrilling and eventually you will probably dream about them, being perfect and going very awry. Finally, you will take an oral and practical test with an examiner and get issued a license and then you’re free to fly as long and as far as your wallet can take you!
When do you get to the part where you practice aerial combat?
Lookit Doug Masters here.
At this place.
https://www.skycombatace.com/
My grandpappy used to fly, before I was around. I don’t like being more than 10ft off the ground myself.
Which lesson # do we get to do hammerheads?
That’s after you complete about forty hours of attitude recovery exercises.
Grab your puke bag.
I thought John McAfee fucked whales, not sharks.
I was just chatting about this with my dad yesterday. His dad used his GI money to get his license, but never flew much after that (5 kids on a tool & die guy’s salary…). My dad said he kind of wished he had done it as well. I asked him the simplest of questions: what would you have been willing to trade for it? I go through the same mental gymnastics on occasion – I’m sure we all do – and come to the realization that there are far more cool things in the world to learn than I have time or money to do.
That’s a long-winded way of saying I really like your series and thanks for letting us live vicariously!
It would be cool to be able to shout ‘Get off my plane!’ But then you think about the number of times Harrison Ford has been injured from his dabbling in flying.
I’ve read Ken Schultz’s posts. You are not long winded.
Brilliant restatement of the principles of flight!
I some classroom somewhere, Trashy is learning kids about the constitution today. Good for him, happy Constitution Day! (Stossel video)
when I grow up, I wanna be John stossel.
I was happy to see the reactions to Korematsu and Buck, especially when I told them that K was good law until 2018 and that parts of Buck are still good law.
Perhaps a little bit of questioning the state…
I put together a game where I pull a relevant quote from either the opinion, the dissent, or my ass, and they have to guess where it’s from.
I have the “three generations of imbeciles” quote for buck, and the reaction was either “you made that up, you bad bad man” or “opinion, but disgusting”.
Did the quote you use include the “is enough” part?
it’s the whole kit and kaboodle.
Yeah, I made a point of sharing Buck with my FB acquaintances all up in arms about the alleged hysterectomies in the ICE facility. Adults were stunned to learn this – ADULTS.
The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes.
How many of the people outraged by the sterilization support the exact policy cited to justify it?
Proving once again that cognitive dissonance is just a myth.
Or is it?
Korematsu was on the basis of national origin and descent, not race unless “Japanese” is a race now.
I think that race and national origin have been so conflated that the difference only shines in the corner cases.
So what can we do about fourth-generation imbeciles like Andrew Cuomo?
Lamp posts.
I’ve been assured that a Sport Pilot License was going to cut those costs down to just about nothing…
At best half, since it only requires 20 hours, and the LSAs were all under $100K right? Seems that didn’t happen either.
Plus I’d probably actually WANT the instruction.
Your instructor is ready and able!
Good luck!
What is really being said…
https://youtu.be/ZF1LXL6OOsM
She won’t teach you how to land.
Whoops. My mistake.
Is this better? 😉
That will probably make a few Glibs here happy, but I’m going with your first choice!
It’s for KK when she gets here.
Not bald enough for KK
The argument was that the LSA and the sport pilot license was for casual use. local flying, slow and low. That training could be like the old days, no GPS and VOR. Minimal radio and cross country. The argument was that the regular pilots license took so much time (more than 40 these days) because they have to train for all of the airspace classifications.. Towered Airports, Class C, and the newer TAA glass panels etc.
I passed my check ride at 20 with 45 hours over about a year (College and weather got in the way) add in Ipads, GPS, EFIS, and other modern requirements and instructors want more systems time.
14 hours to solo
6 hours of cross country training.
11 hours of cross country solo
3 hours of night.
11 random hours of stalls, slow flight, landings and prep for the check ride.
the 1st and Last category of hours is what is variable. Some people take forever to learn how to land… and If you aren’t flying often then your random hours will seem to keep repeating the same things as you have to re-learn them.
Hoof, I took that first lesson and doG knows, never got over it. Two things stood in the way of getting my license; (1) money (the almost universal reason for not doing anything) and (2) Meniere’s Disease.
Nonetheless, if a broad-gauge miracle occurred, I’d gladly be up there.
Meniere’s disease is a disorder that affects the inner ear. The inner ear is responsible for hearing and balance. The condition causes vertigo, the sensation of spinning. It also leads to hearing problems and a ringing sound in the ear. Meniere’s disease usually affects only one ear. Ah, I’ve got ringing in both ears, so I don’t have that.
Yep. Altered sense of balance, but strangely, no vertigo. Deaf as a rock in both ears plus tinnitus.
With recent 3rd class medical reform (basically not required for most small airplanes), if you’ve never been denied a medical you can probably make a go of it if you wanted to, but consult AOPA first. I know a (now retired) UPS pilot that developed it and had his inner ear removed to cure it, rendering him deaf in that ear. Not sure I would have made the same decision.
Does anybody still teach spin recovery?
My instructor demanded it even though it wasn’t required. I just about puked after the first four or so.
It’s required to become a flight instructor. Upset and unusual attitude courses cover it, they’re pretty commonest . If you want to meet an airshow pilot, many of them are instructors in the off season doing such things along with aerobatics courses. I had a Champ for a couple of years that was the easiest thing to spin and recover from (as long as the back seat wasn’t heavily loaded).
For basic instruction, no. Most of the current training planes are not certified for intentional spins.
The argument was that more instructors, students and planes were killed training for spins, than were expected to be saved. They have gone away from deep stalls for the same reason, and in twins they used to do MCA (blue line) demonstrations at low altitude. Those are now done much higher to allow a safety margin.
I have seen video of why the Mooney is not certified for intentional spins. To be certified you must have the test pilot demonstrate a six turn intentional spin and recovery, and it was felt that the speed during pull out was too close to VNE to allow any margin for error. There was plenty of margin on normal 1-2 turn spins, so it is certified in the normal class, just not for intentional spins.
I agree with the FAA position on this. Current practice is stall recognition/avoidance/recovery, Knowing how to spin and recover is cool, but many instructors are low time to start with. Spins catch people off-guard when they are already flailing, there is very little overlap between intentional instructional and unintentional recoverable spins. For non-pilots, getting so slow or otherwise exceeding the critical angle of attack is called a stall, where the wing stops producing lift and the aircraft is no longer held aloft. Eventually one wing will drop and the stalled plane will start rotating around the stalled wing while dropping very fast (6000+ feet per minute). When the recovery is made immediately, energy is low and recovery is easy. When the spin is “fully developed”, even if you can break the spinning motion that drop energy gets converted to airspeed that can easily exceed the structural limits of your plane. You can see evidence of this in crashes when the wings or tail are founds separate from the rest of the plane.
I generally agree that the newer “recognize early and correct” method is better than “pull it all the way back, this will be a fun ride”. The problem is that you have to experience a stall to know what one feels like, and then stay well away. You have to be confident that you can sit in the slow flight regime all day and be fine to properly land. You can turn, but don’t do it fast and keep that ball centered. If you won’t go anywhere near 1.2vso, then you will always land long and fast. I’ve talked to people who add 5 kts for the kids, and again the wife, and its a little breezy out there.. They were trying to land their Mooney after a final approach speed of 85kts. I said, 75kts was the maximum, that is 1.3Vso for full gross takeoff weight. The rule of thumb is for every 1kt you are fast, you land 100′ longer… 10kts is 1000ft of runway you can’t use.
When I first brought my current plane home, (3000′ airport with 50′ obstacles) It took me three tries to land.. I was too fast and hadn’t done my transition training on a 3000′ runway. They were all 4000’+ so my lack of speed control wasn’t obvious.
The “falling leaf” maneuver went a long way to getting me comfortable with stalls. Power to 45%, coordinated stall, recover with rudder only, do it again and again and again… apparently it’s regular practice for gliders. Commercial maneuvers spent a long time in the low-speed/low energy domain.
The USAF. Of course, the only aircraft they have that will spin are the spin trainers (T-6s).
Well, you have to make the planes as pilot-proof as possible.
Those things are expesnive.
Mostly a function of “that’s the way we’ve always done it.”
Back in the day, there was good reason for spin training. A lot of USAF would depart. The T-37 was designed to spin to train it. And it was an active recovery procedure, requiring a 7 step recovery procedure that was fairly complex. The T-6 (the T-37 replacement) has a passive procedure (like most civilian a/c) where you just neutralize the controls and it pops right out.
Today, if you do manage to get into a spin in a bomber or fighter, you’re likely punching out. If a recovery is even possible in a given jet, the recovery procedures are usually aircraft specific. So a general spin training is not going to have much ROI
I’m challenging Heroic Mulatto for the title of Blackest Glib.
Melanin, not character.
You lose.
Boring Thursday?
Where’s the tunnel going this week?
In this case? Probably to the secret burial area under the sex dungeon.
I think Ed Wuncler wins. But I wasn’t invited to ref the event.
Yes. The M part of the HM was the clue.
Why the Supermarine Spitfire Is Such a Badass Plane
It’s gotta be the flame breath. “super” and “marine” are labels applied for puffery.
I got to ride in the back seat of a P51 Mustang one time. That was a blast.
Jealous!
I did get to ride front seat in a T6 Texan. In Marine Corps livery, no less.
We flew in formation with my buddy’s homebuilt and I shot a bunch of pictures.
So cool!
Fake news. Mustangs were single-seaters.
There are a very limited number of two seater trainers out there.
Needz moar “ackshually”.
Besides, I figured something like that. But if a glib can’t make a cheap, uninformed jibe, what’s the point of it all.
What can I say?
I knew I was stepping into that, but I did it anyway. I guess it’s hard-coded.
*resumes correcting all mistakes on the internet*
You can also image search for “twin Mustang”, which is what you get when you de-wing 2 of them and glue them together, because they wish they could be as awesome as a P-38.
Spotify CEO Defends Keeping Transphobic Joe Rogan Podcasts Online
Transphobic Joe Rogan. This should be fun to watch.
“I have an irrational fear of transformers. I can’t go near telephone poles.”
UM, AKSHULLY, telephone only poles don’t need transformers, only telephone poles that also carry power lines. *uses inhaler*
How many telephone poles are there that are not mixed use telephone/power or telephone/power/cable?
They are all over, usually for only a short stretch, but you will see power on one side of a road and phone/cable on the other, or just phone, or just power the two networks aren’t built exactly the same so the fringes can be different.
Also the transformers aren’t on every pole, only every “n” poles depending on local power requirements.
What state are you referending, because that’s not how they were built out in the cities. I’ve been in.
Is it a regional thing? A regulatory one?
And yes I know not every pole is a transformer bearing pole. It’s phobia creep for the fictitious transphobe.
It will be more common in a rural setting. Power is a branch network that can have no loops, and phone systems are star networks. Their outlying fringes won’t match up.
99% of the networks are co-located, but if you look you can find discontinuities.
Also Akshully, rarely does the telephone company own the pole if it’s joint use with the electric company. They place theirs and everyone else hitches a ride (usually) if they want it.
A lot of places are going underground as they near their destination.
Big moves for that here in KY, considering a freezing rain in ’09 killed power for more than a week in many places.
A green box on the ground replaces that pole transformer.
“I have an irrational fear of transformers. I can’t go near telephone poles.”
I’m surprised we haven’t seen a new woke Transformer movie yet, where instead of old cars turning into Transformers, we have straight white males tuning into women with pink and green hair and identifying as unicorns.
I saw that documentary on CNN.
“This is Portland!”
Is that when one’s phobias shift from one to another? Or it the fear that your current fear will change to another?
Some people have a manual trans phobia.
Makes my car less likely to be stolen.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/mourning-the-manual-transmission-11599857145
I could go for a manual again if I had to replace my car.
So no reach arounds?
Aight, I’m getting ready to head off to bed. After I get home from work tonight I’m heading to Lake Superior in Sconnie, then to MinnySoda. I wonder how many 100s of miles I’ll get before I realize I left my wallet at home and need to turn around.
First gas station?
Good, only a quarter tank, so I’m going to stop back at work to fill up cuz it’s the cheapest in the area, so I’d only lose about 40 minutes if I had to back track.
Safe travels, dude.
Pennsylvania: Mail ballots can’t be discarded over signature
Nice
And a lawsuit has already been filed. The next few weeks will be exhausting.
With concerns rising in Pennsylvania that tens of thousands of mail-in ballots will be discarded in the presidential election over technicalities, officials in the presidential battleground told counties they aren’t allowed to reject a ballot solely because an election official believes a signature doesn’t match the one in the voter’s file.
Isn’t that the only verification?
No, if the “Biden” circle is filled in that is also acceptable.
WTF? If the signature doesn’t match, contact the voter to bring in proof of their ID and resign their voter is card or void the ballot. Why is this so difficult?
And that should be done prior to opening the ballot envelope.
I had similar happen several years ago. Election office called me up that my envelope wasn’t signed. Went down, signed it and put it back in the ballot drop box.
“Why is this so difficult?”
It’s voter suppression! The only reason Trump wants that is that poh peoples cannot afford an ID or a way to get there with it!
With concerns rising in Pennsylvania that tens of thousands of mail-in ballots will be discarded in the presidential election over
technicalitiesfailure to meet ballot security requirementsSpinners be spinning, yo.
The only way we can be sure is open all of them and dump the ones who chose bad orange man, into the trash.
I have 30 minutes of ‘flight time’ on the LACV-30.
This was as a Cadet in 1987?
You don’t get very far off the ground, but 1800 HP is kind of exciting.
I flew with a pilot friend back in the ’00s and did some ‘level turn’ flying while he talked me thru it.
After 15 minutes, when I released the yoke, my wrists cramped up and spasmed because of the death grip that I had no awareness of while flying.
That plagues just about every flight student for a while.
I took a couple of lessons. On the first one the instructor would take you to a football field and tell you to keep the chopper in bounds.
a couple of helicopter lessons
It’s called (affectionately) “squeezing the black out of the stick.”
As in, “Hey, there, Lieutenant, how about not squeezing all of the black out of that stick, eh?”
At Whiting Field (south), one of the OLFs has 40’x40′ boxes and on your FAM3 the instructors all put a case of beer up (if you’re willing) if you can keep it “in the box” for one minute. Needless to say, the instructors never lose. On the bright side, very few students are stupid enough to take the bet because FAM1 and 2 make it very clear that helicopter flight (and hovering) is a very, very different animal than our prior from fixed-wing flight training at Whiting (north).
In today’s dose of Orwellian nightmares:
There was a long article on Oralhealthgroup.com a few months back from 2016 detailing all the ways and reasons surgical face masks don’t work. If you go to the link now, you get the following message:
“If you are looking for “Why Face Masks Don’t Work: A Revealing Review” by John Hardie, BDS, MSc, PhD, FRCDC, it has been removed. The content was published in 2016 and is no longer relevant in our current climate.”
So that’s where we’re at circa September 2020. It wasn’t ‘wrong’ per se, just no longer ‘relevant.’ The Wayback machine has it:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200509053953/https://www.oralhealthgroup.com/features/face-masks-dont-work-revealing-review/
Not disproven, just not “relevant”
no longer relevant in our current climate
Our climate of irrational fear and creeping totalitarianism? I assume the scientific explanation in the article is still sound.
Yesterday’s scientific dogma is today’s discarded fable
The subhead wasn’t just a description – it was a prediction.
The world is throwing out our collective experiences and attained knowledge at an alarming rate.
A little ironic, since this is the “information age” with it’s own superhighway. Seemed like information carried quite a bit more weight, when it was harder to come by.
We have always discarded wrongthink as soon as it is identified by the Party.
Another explanation of the four forces: https://youtu.be/EmdOdSRov9o?t=642
Explanation continues: https://youtu.be/EmdOdSRov9o?t=1039
And final part of the lecture: https://youtu.be/EmdOdSRov9o?t=1465
Well, JD had a unique way of solving his mask issue.
Any idea about helicopter licenses? Estoy pidiendo un amigo.
And what did your friend say?
Los miro desde arriba, porque Dios me puso allí.
Dios was the name of his helicopter, weird guy.
Most do have a little bit of a God complex.
I was in Army aviation (helicopters) and we had an AF meteorological wing attached to us. Those guys were always amazed at how causual we were with our pilots- evidently an Air Force pilot demands reverence. But from them is where i heard the joke “Whats the difference between God and a pilot? God doesn’t think he’s a pilot.”
Cuz he’s not! 😉
He’s just a co-pilot? Or is that just dogs?
At the base gym at Al-Asad, we used to snicker at this guy we’d see frequently who always worked out in these tiny spandex singlets, the kind of thing Buddy Love wears in The Nutty Professor. We spotted him in the DFAC once and discovered he was a pilot and a lieutenant colonel. That made it even more hilarious.
The hours and requirements are all the same, but multiply dollars by 5? Maybe Ozy can chime in. The cheapest helo time I’ve ever seen is over $300 per hour, most is $500+. Helicopters don’t actually fly, you know, they beat the air into submission…
Cursory glance around at the flight schools in the Philly area looks like it’ll be roughly comparable to get a helicopter license. Instructor rates and time requirements are the same, rental costs are the only difference.
Not really interested any way, my ears are as messed up as my YouTube recommendations after clicking a link from Heroic Mulatto, but someone needed to make a Pinochet reference.
Cheapest is the Army’s street to seat 😉
https://m.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/current-and-prior-service/advance-your-career/warrant-officer/flight-warrant-officers.m.html
Throwing this out again if there’s a young go getter reading this. And there’s at least one Regional recruiting rotary wing pilots for their transition program to become commercial fixed wing pilots.
I would really have liked to have gone through the mil helicopter program, even though I was already a pilot, that training seems to really work. I’ve got lousy eyes and didn’t even pay attention, I learned (much) later that lasik correction was allowed.
I don’t know if it’s still this way, but it used to be that the Army warrant officer program for rotary wing was open to all branches. Knew a guy who went from enlisted Marine to Army pilot that way.
I bought a $100 Groupon for a half hour in an R22 and a T shirt. 12 years later that .6 is still the only rotary time I have. T shirt doesn’t fit any more either.
hoof – you’re correct about it. It’s expensive as hell, which is why I’m not flying helos in civilian life. I have/(d) all of my ratings, but getting time in even an R22 is expensive. I looked into it a couple of times, but it never got cheap enough for me to afford. It’s why the vast majority of guys flying helos now are former mil of one kind or another, mostly ex-Army because of how much more flight time Army (warrant) pilots get over their USMC (zero) colleagues.
By the way, hoof, I just wanted to say what a great article this was. Your re-drawn four forces is awesome. You should copyright/TM, not for royalties, but just so credit goes where it’s due. Brilliant.
My first and only flight lesson was pretty similar. I came to a conclusion that I would be too scared of landings. Motorcycles — yes, planes — too scary.
Bye my dads 150. It’s $14,000. And a few hours past Major Overhaul. It’ll be cheep. I promise…
Integrated Global Economy for the win.
Last Tuesday afernoon I ordered 5 tires (make that tyres) from an outfit in the UK. This morning the tyres were delivered. Five fucking tires from the Limey Land to the colonies in a week. Best time line indeed.
But will they fit under your wings?
Just, if I hit them with a spanner
Can’t you use a wrench? Or because they’re limey-made you can’t use american tools?
Heh. When I first got the car and the factory manual kept telling me to do something with a spanner I thought. Dunno what this spanner this is, but a wrench seems to work. Took me longer to realize why the manual kept saying to clean parts in parafin. Parafin? Turns out that’s Lmey for kerosene.
England and America…..two nations divided by a common language.
And private gun ownership, and dentistry.
Just about the entire state is suffering under wildfires in one way or another. Nope, healthcare workers hardest hit
https://www.oregonlive.com/environment/2020/09/worst-air-pollution-on-planet-latest-blow-for-oregon-healthcare-workers.html
Just wear the mask and you’ll be fine.
Just off a meeting with an Oregonian. He said they’re expecting a good amount of rain tonight and over the next few days. Warmer hysterics hardest hit.
Forecast. Will see if it’s a trickle or enough to slide newly barren earth. Hopefully will tamp down some of the smoke but these fires are going to burn until the rains really start. Doesn’t look like that will happen until the end of the month at the soonest.
Tundra- was over on the east side yesterday evening and it was even worse there. Could be unpleasant with the normal westerly flow if the fires are still smoking badly when you’re there. Outdoor recreation might be in doubt. Fingers cross that it’s better by then. Fire base is at the rodeo grounds and Sisters itself has a high firefighter to tourist ratio right now.
What’s the word, if any, about arson? Are all of these fires natural accidents or intentional destruction? I don’t trust OR officials in their denials. Especially when they frame it as “no evidence antifa is responsible” They like to claim antifa doesn’t exist because they don’t publish a membership lists.
One of the fires that was part of the Medford complex and some minor ones.
Main ones appear to be power lines and flare up of existing fire. Pacific Power and Lane Electric are set to be PG&E fucked.
Dry fuel + ultra low humidity + hurricane level winds = don’t really need antifa to burn it down.
Oh, and today’s storm is supposed to have lightning too, which should be good for more starts.
What really irks me about this entire thing, beside CAs (not sure what the rest of the left coast is doing) forestry mismanagement is how people believe there weren’t any fires before humans, and probably not before the 20th century. Completely ignoring the fact that there are species of trees who’s seeds will not germinate without fire.
And what about the stories I’ve read where Native Americans intentionally set fire to half the country to clear land? Yeah, I know, they were all living peacefully in the forest with nature, I saw it on a Disney film, until whitey came along and ruined paradise.
I won’t even bother with all the other proof, because white man speak with forked tongue, especially CA democrat white man.
White man speak with forked tongue
“Fire has always been part of California’s landscape.”
ALWAYS, do you know how long that is, progtards? Longer than an election cycle that bad orange man is part of!
I heard as a kid that the oak savannas of the Willamette Valley were due to Indians regularly burning out the land. Not sure how much is true.
Randal O’Toole (the antiplanner) has written a bit about it and did another just now describing four different groups of responses to the fires and critiques of each
https://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=17599
I’m skeptical of his minimum lot size and clearing would be adequate for firestorm levels like what was just seen. Adequate for normal wildfire i think.
Yes. AND, how does our piddly carbon output compare to the whole fucking state burning for a whole fucking year, until it exhausts itself? Humankind extinguishes these massive carbon generation machines and then emits a tiny fraction of the carbon back via energy production. Why is all the warming now and from us?
Mama Gaia took care of all that before we raped and killed her.
We had a big fire in the mountains just north of Tucson earlier this year. Fire management was focussed solely on protecting buildings and the like (euphemized as “values at risk”).
It really brought home that it will all burn, sooner or later. And its all evolved to burn, sooner or later. All fire suppression does is allow a buildup of fuel that will make the fires worse, possibly beyond the evolved capacity of the ecosystem to recover from in the usual course.
Thanks, GL.
Still a month out – I’ve got my fingers crossed.
Ugh, too complicated. I’m sticking with horses.
I think hoof-in-mouth had another series…
THAT’S THE JOKE.
At least you can beat a horse into some semblance of obedience. You can’t really do that with a plane…
This is fitting since Biden does tend to talk out of his ass.
Left-wing actor and comedian Jim Carrey will take on the role of former Vice President and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden in the upcoming series of Saturday Night Live, producers announced on Wednesday.
“You’ll see the same people. I mean, Maya Rudolph is coming back, and Alec [Baldwin] will be back. And Jim Carrey is going to do Biden,” SNL boss Lorne Michaels told Variety, adding that Carrey had expressed interest in the role. “It came down to discussions of what his take was … He will give the part energy and strength, and [Laughs] hopefully it’s funny.”
Reprising Fire Marshal Bill as Biden I hope?
Should be interesting how SNL attempt to portray Biden as a totally hip dude who the millennials really connect with.
Being funny is an afterthought…on a comedy show.
Funny. When I hear that word the first thing I think of is Creepy Joe Biden. Yep.
They’ll be doing the hair sniffing creepy Biden stuff. I mean, it’s just too good to pass up for a comedy show, right? I’m sure they’ll do the entire gaffathon too?
Operative quote for SNL for the last few deacades.
Energy and strength, yep, that’s what comes to mind when we think of Joe Biden.
“It’s a lot of money.”
So, only for privileged shitlords, got it.
What if your expedition includes taking along some orphans? How much for each orphan? This is a must know for shitlords.
You can take more orphans as they don’t weigh as much.
Bwahaha…”Education Department opens investigation into Princeton University after president deems racism ’embedded’ in the school“
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/exclusive-education-department-opens-investigation-into-princeton-university-after-president-deems-racism-embedded-in-the-school
Sometimes mindless signaling has real world consequences it seems.
“…racism ’embedded’ in the school“
I think they call that affirmative action.
You can’t be racist against white people Suthen, now give me half your stuff.
A self-own of epic proportions
I love it
*applause*
Just more proof of how dangerous orange bad man and his nazi henchmen, like Davos, are. Better impeach that guy before this investigation damages the reputation of our prestigious institutions and stops them from keeping out dirty Asians!
Well played.
This story makes me smile broadly.
That is the most perfect trolling I have seen in years!
It’s not trolling, for reals.
*pinky swears*
So, guilty with no chance for a defense?
They can provide a defense, just as long as that defense consists of admissions of guilt that have been pre-approved by the investigator.
Interesting. My company is beginning to slide into wokeness/”anti-racism”. This will be good for me to point at if I hear we are planning some kind of public admission of our sinful past, or if we have any kind of struggle sessions.
“Any admission that someone is a racist in this meeting will be discoverable, and can be used against us in any EEOC complaint. Just thought I’d put that out there. If we start having to write big checks because we have created a record that this company is run by racists, don’t come crying to me.”
If I was a plaintiff’s lawyer bringing EEOC claims, the current anti-racism fad would make me a very happy (and rich) man.
With the article in mind, have a dose of Stephen Stills.
Always thought he was more of the sailboat type.
Here’s a song peripherally about flying. Bitchin’ slow lead at the end.
Knew exactly what that was going to be. : )
I’ve mentioned my BIL- retired airline pilot, former VN flyboy, & proud owner of his own small plane. He also lives perilously close to Canada. On at least one occasion, someone has made him an offer. (He declined.) That tune’s near & dear to his heart.
Now this is awesome:
Wanna play woke? Okey dokey then. There will be consequences.
Well, hell, guess I should reload the page occasionally before posting.
Speaking of, I just came across this epic troll.
Awesome – so either they prove him right and fine Princeton $millions. Or they prove him to just be a jackass.
And pick up those damn drugs at your heels.
It’s so funny I don’t mind seeing it twice.
It needs to go much further than this. Because you have government funded institutions now forcing people to take this ‘diversity training’, which singles out specific groups based on their race, gender, sexual orientation, etc, to force them to think a certain way. Unless I am just completely ignorant about our civil rights laws, that is blatant discrimination and illegal as hell.
This day has gotten so much better. The group seated next to ours brought in Dinosaur and somehow wound up with pounds of leftover brisket.
Barbeque from…..Troy NY?? I iz suspicious.
It’s actually really good. Most bbq up here isn’t, but this stuff is legitimately real.
Fair nuff.
It wasn’t one of the sides that the electrical/packaging group brought in, but whoever came up with bbq fried rice is a genius.
Can confirm.
I want a brontosaurus burger.
If I’m dead this time next year, it’s because Hoof got me killed. Thanks, Hoof!
J/K
In the meantime, my review of FS2020:
Beautiful, but not ready for prime time. Like FSX, we’ll see where it goes. Also, sorry but I’m not spending $120 and then paying $10 to $20 for individual airport upgrades and plane add-ons.
Just an honest, straight-shootin’, taxpayer-funded journalist….
No one was ever enslaved and exploited prior to the European colonization of North America. It is known.
This is how we know that we must rewrite the racist history written by white devils, who lie that it’s been going of since the dawn of civilization! I wonder who the genius is who will pen the 12019 BC project?
No one had any idea that there was slavery in the US prior to 1865, either. She performed a major public service.
CWAA/TMITE
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/09/right-wing-proud-boys-move-rally-to-portlands-delta-park-site-of-lost-vanport-city-where-blacks-lived-during-redlining-days.html
So the Proud Boys avoid direct confrontation in downtown and they’re racists.
Even the supposed history lesson is flawed. Yes, there was racism and racist attitudes, but there was also a nationwide housing shortage post-WWII that affected the entire country. Also casually brushed off, the racist and paternalistic view that the city should have followed through to relocate blacks out of Vanport despite any individual choice or preference.
So I learned what TMITE is, I still do not know what CWAA is?
Cotton Warehouse Association of America?
ChristWhatAnAsshole
lol
I am now amongst the enlightened Gliberati.
Bit of an odd name for the head of a “white nationalist” organization.
Umm, Prod, Boys? How much more white supremacist do you need, mister?
Maybe he’s a White Hispanic.
The worst kind.
A Tio Tomas.
Tiojuanus
Worse that manic hispanics?
I managed to keep costs down by joining a volunteer organization and taking nearly every flight they offered me (as well as living in a studio apartment and driving the same Toyota econobox for 13+ years). By the time I got an airline gig I had only paid for about half my hours.
Most of my coworkers went through the ATP flight school, where they take well in excess of $100k to make you eligible for one of those if-you’re-lucky $10/hour entry level pilot jobs. And currently there are thousands of well-qualified pilots looking for jobs. I’m counting my lucky stars that the cago world hasn’t been terribly affected so far.