Saturday Evening “Is Spud’s Real Name Brett?” Links

by | Sep 12, 2020 | Daily Links, Open Post, Poll | 414 comments

Let’s have a poll!

Is Spud:

a) lying in a gutter someplace

b) arrested in a drug and hooker sweep

c) face down on a bar somewhere

d) putting out the fire in his meth lab

e) dead

Of course, you can always submit your own creative answers below!

 

I know I called this a links post, but I just finished up a week long conference an hour ago, so this is self-service. Also, completely unrelated to the lack of links herein, OMWC was quite put out that I was “taking all the good links” for my post.

 

Have a great Saturday night! Or don’t, I’m not your boss, Mom or wife. (Nor would I want to be. I know how you people are.)

 

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SP

I've got an idea! How about we just stick to the Constitution as written and then the government can leave me the fuck alone.

414 Comments

  1. Old Man With Candy

    Wait, you ARE my wife!

    • SP

      I especially know how you are.

      • commodious spittoon

        Get a room.

      • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

        And then wildly do it!

        WOOOOOOOOOO!!!

      • TARDis
  2. Sean

    C.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Seconded

    • The Hyperbole

      Gah, Reggae. an trigger warning would be nice. RIP none the less.

      • Nephilium

        He was the frontman for Toots and the Maytals, I got the chance to see him once back in the late 90’s/early 00’s. He was moving and dancing the whole hour long set.

        Perhaps a cover of Country Roads would be more your speed?

      • The Hyperbole

        A reggae version of a country song is still reggae! Look, I was trapped in the back seat for a car trip to the finger lakes and the two stoners up front wouldn’t take Bob Marley’s greatest hits out of the cassette player the entire 7+ hours. Reggae gives me PTSD.

      • Nephilium

        Oh damn. Any album repeated that many times would cause me to rage.

      • DEG

        That cover is superior to the original.

      • Ted S.

        You could have hovered over the first link.

    • DEG

      NOOO!!!!!

      I saw Toots and the Maytals once about ten years ago. It was a good show.

    • BakedPenguin

      Wasn’t he one of the Cosby Uncles?

  3. The Hyperbole

    Why not all five?

    • SP

      He’s not an overachiever.

    • Count Potato

      “New Hampshire’s first trans, anarchist, Satanic candidate for county sheriff says she’s not getting a lot of support from the Republican Party.”

      OK?

      • Nephilium

        So… anarchist running for office? Is she going to tear down the government from the inside?

      • J. Frank Parnell

        “I’m running for sheriff because I oppose that very system, and the sheriff has the most hands-on ability in Cheshire County to oppose that system,” she said. “The system that let you down by allowing me — the freaking transsexual Satanist anarchist — be your sheriff candidate is the same system I’m attacking. I’m sorry, and I know it hurts to hear, but that system is a lie.”

        “The entire thing is a lie. It’s broken from beginning to end, and my existence as your sheriff candidate is merely how this reality was thrown into your face,” she said.

        Yes, apparently.

      • hayeksplosives

        A sheriff who’s not a fan of anarchy? Shocking!

    • blackjack

      See, it always confounds me when they say “trans” and then say “she.” At that point, I’m lost, man, woman, who the fuck knows? The answer? Post up a pic. That’s a man, baby! Dafuq is a trans man? Is it a man or a woman pretending to be one? Dunno. If the pic has a 5 o’clock shadow and an adam’s apple, it becomes clear.

      • Rhywun

        who the fuck knows?

        Who the fuck cares.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Its not as difficult as you think.

        – A transwoman can be explained as such: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0oXY4nDxE

        – A transman is simply the reverse.

      • Sean

        What if they’re also non-binary, gender queer?

        Show your math.

      • blackjack

        Lessee, carry the one, carry the zero, dammit, there’s gotta be more than just ones and zeros…

      • Cancelled

        I think at this point we are up to needing the Mayan sexagesimal numeration to track genders.

    • DEG

      Yep. Ran unopposed.

    • SP

      I guess we know why it’s a former best friend.

    • commodious spittoon

      Ooh ooh, now do the Clintons.

      • Hyperion

        That was pure unadulterated love.

      • Cancelled

        No, there was plenty of adultery involved.

      • Hyperion

        That’s sort of what I was trying to do there…

      • pistoffnick

        It is important to love your taint.

      • Ted S.

        And if you can’t be
        With the one you taint, honey
        Taint the one you’re with

      • BakedPenguin

        Ted S., are you feeling well recently? You’ve recently been picking songs I liked in my youth, and it’s scaring me.

    • creech

      What percent of marriages score “arm candy” like that?

      • Hyperion

        Ones in which the guy is a billionaire?

    • Hyperion

      “So a marriage?”

      best possible answer. Close the thread.

    • Rhywun

      lol they’re not even trying any more

    • J. Frank Parnell

      Ohhh, so that’s why the model married the billionaire.

      Thanks for clearing that up.

  4. Spudalicious

    I forgot. I was canning pickles.

    • SP

      Lame excuse.

      And we don’t believe you.

      • Nephilium

        I believe him.

        Canning pickles is a euphemism, right?

      • Old Man With Candy

        Pickles is his sister in law.

      • C. Anacreon

        Pickles was the name of Buddy’s (Morey Amsterdam) wife on The Dick Van Dyke show. She was one of those sitcom characters who never appeared on camera.

      • Tejicano

        Was that because she got canned?

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Yes. Pickles is the name of a relative, whom he is beating with a cane.

    • peachy rex

      Man, you weren’t even trying with that euphemism.

    • Tundra

      Caning the Pickle is a new one.

      Nice.

      • Annoyed Nomad

        Is that an anal reference since the pickle goes in the can? I’m trying to keep up with the memes.

      • Deplorableme
      • Deplorableme

        Damn it. Lets try it again,

        euphemism?

      • TARDis

        OUCH!

    • Count Potato

      Cucumber?

      • Spudalicious

        Yes. I get enough yield that I do them every other year.

    • J. Frank Parnell
  5. Count Potato

    “Vaping DOES raise the risk of breast cancer, warn scientists amid concerns that young women are ‘targeted by E-cigarette companies’

    The US team carried out tests on female mice, some kept in fresh air, others exposed to e-cigarette vapour. After a fortnight, all were injected with breast cancer. At the end of six weeks, tumours had grown almost twice as fast in the mice exposed to the vapour.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8726125/Vaping-DOES-raise-risk-breast-cancer-warn-scientists.html

    So if you are a mouse, don’t vape.

    • blackjack

      You ever try and explain life before all this wackiness? Try telling a kid how there wasn’t any safety seals on foods back in the day. Explain how nobody had a portable phone and they sold extra long cords so you could pace the room while talking. How about getting no answer when you called? You’d just try back later, unless they had one of those rich people tape recorders on their phone. How about explaining that all the kids ( or, at least most of them) would go home and then hang out in the general area until mom/dad got off work around 7 p.m. When I was a kid, safety was for sissies. Hell, most foods didn’t even have a “use by” date!

      • Fourscore

        Or the wall phone had to be cranked by hand, a long crank was a 1, 2 long cranks was a 2, switching to shorts cranks after a long crank was for the second digit and vice versa. Our number was 15, 1 long and 5 shorts.. 5 longs and 1 short = 51. Small subscriber base, can’t remember how many. I think 1 long reached the switch board and she could call other locals.

        Didn’t need a use by date, food didn’t last that long if there were kids in the family.

      • Hyperion

        Was it a party line?

      • Fourscore

        Yes, with about 20 subscribers, classified info was never discussed. Pretty much everyone knew all but the darkest secrets of the others.

        Later, after I left home my folks got dial up with 3 other parties, only 1 phone rang but if you picked up the phone there may be someone already using the line. I think most people picked up the phone quietly and listened (and listened) before they tried to use it.

      • Hyperion

        It was sort of funny. I’d get on the phone with my GF and you could tell when one of the old maid biddies had picked up, I mean you could hear them pick up and then try to muffle the receiver so you couldn’t hear them.

        I’d just say, well I’m not going to talk about this when some old bag is listening. I even heard them forget what was happening and ‘gasp’ at that a couple of times, lol.

        I really wanted to say ‘hey old bag, this is the reason you’ve never actually had sex before!’. But those were more polite times.

        And BTW, that’s not an exaggeration and I have no disclaimer.

    • db

      If you are a woman, don’t let people inject you with breast cancer.

    • Ted S.

      And don’t inject yourself with breast cancer.

      • db

        That seems like it is pretty close to Life Rule 1.

      • Lackadaisical

        ^this.

        That has to be the most ridiculous thing I’ve read.

    • Gdragon

      No one judges a mouse by her tits anyway, they’re ass rodents.

  6. Count Potato

    “Four people have been arrested for arson for deliberately starting blazes along the West Coast including one man who livestreamed the encounter on social media as the death toll from the devastating wildfires climbed to 29 and Oregon officials warned they are preparing for a ‘mass fatality event’.

    Two men in Washington state, one man in Oregon and one woman in California are facing arson charges for setting fires in areas that were already grappling with deadly blazes.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8721359/Evacuate-Wildfires-grow-Oregon-500K-flee.html

    • Hyperion

      Were any of them previously seen at antifa riots? Just curious.

      • Count Potato

        I don’t know.

      • Hyperion

        I’m not sure why I would suspect that. I mean antifa have never set any fires before. Just wondering.

      • Lackadaisical

        Looking through the pictures, the first guy definitely is.

        Second guy just looks like a hillhippy who was probably high.

        The lady looks like she’s part of one of those union agitator groups, so probably antifa light.

    • Gustave Lytton

      The 500k number is approximately the number under an type of evacuation order, mostly at Level 1 Be Ready. Actual evacuation Level 3 Go Now is about a tenth of that number. The state walked back the hyperbole number shortly after getting questioned and refused to explain how they arrived at the number.

  7. Tundra

    Yes.

  8. hayeksplosives

    DaFuq is she smoking?

    Ilhan Omar
    @IlhanMN
    ·
    Sep 7

    US House candidate, MN-5
    When you’re a Democrat, the media makes you have to answer for every broken window and thrown bottle by protestors, regardless of what they’re protesting or where.

    But when actual GOP & Trump supporters, like the folks below, call & cheer for assassinating Democrats… silence.

    • hayeksplosives

      Her Twat feed is full of dimwitted proclamations like “Housing is a human right” and “Healthcare is a human right” as well as raising minimum wage and putting EVERYONE in a labor union “one job should be enough.” Really, bitch? Talk to the Invisible ?.

      She also is whining that ICE wants to deport some of her constituents back to Somalia, because, get this, it puts Somalia at risk for Covid19.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        Then let Somalia quarantine them when they arrive.

  9. Nephilium

    As is the tradition. I’ll kick of a Zoom Virtual Happy Hour tonight at 20:00 Eastern. Maybe if I put Zoom in the post, people will stop asking about it later in the thread.

    /expects people to ask about it later in the thread.

    • DEG

      I won’t be on tonight. Live music at one of the local brewpubs.

      Thanks for setting these up. I made last night’s pretty late.

    • Old Man With Candy

      We’ll try to drop by before I get into intensive prep for dinner.

    • db

      I admit I’m curious about these, but frankly, don’t trust Zoom.

      • blackjack

        It’s perfectly safe as long as you use clean needles.

      • Tundra

        As opposed to every other privacy violation platform?

        Fuck it. We’re all on the list already. Go see your friends in all their…uh…glory.

      • westernsloper

        lol…….glory is one way to put it.

      • db

        Don’t go down that rabbit hole.

      • Nephilium

        If you’ve got a preferred meeting platform, I’m open to changing. I’ve had a lot less issues with Zoom then WebEx, and I doubt that everyone here has a Google account to do a Google Meet, I’m even more doubtful that everyone has a Microsoft account to do a Teams meeting.

        On the application side, you can always sandbox it if you’re concerned about it accessing other files. I’ve never seen any reports of that. Most of the reported “security holes” that were reported early were things like allowing local links as URLs in the chat, unwanted people joining public meetings, and weak encryption for meetings without a paid account.

      • Sean

        I don’t want China watching me caning pickles.

      • Sean

        *canning

      • Hyperion

        Zoom sucks. I guess people use it because you can put more faces on the screen at one time?

        Both Skype and MS Teams are superior in every way in my experience. You can’t even do a virtual background with Zoom without a green screen? A green screen? WTF? This is 2020!

      • db

        How many people use cameras? I’m not really likely to show my face, simply because I work for a company that, while not explicitly woke, has some folks in positions of real power that would not hesistate to ruin someone’s career for being associated with wrongthink.

      • db

        plus, I only have a camera on my work laptop

      • Nephilium

        Depends on the people. Some people put on cameras, others do not, others put up pictures as their image. You’ll get the chance to see a bunch of middle aged white guys though.

      • db

        HAWT.

      • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

        I still haven’t figured out how to put up a picture. I’ve RTFM (such as it is) and I still have no clue — half of the controls they reference in the docs don’t even show up on my screen.

      • Hyperion

        I am required to show my face in some work meetings. That’s the only reason I have a camera. But Zoom annoys me because our flat is almost entirely open and I hate having some inquisitive person always saying ‘are those your tomato plants?’. No, someone else decided to plant some tomato plants on my deck and I decided to keep them. ‘Oh, is that your robovac just went by back there, he he’. No, that was my home killer robot with twin missile launchers. G’damnit, who wants to buy a giant plastic canvas to prop up behind your chair when every other app does not need one of those? And I keep having to tell my wife, hey I’m on Zoom, please do not walk through here naked, OK?

      • The Hyperbole

        pics or it didn’t happen.

      • Gustave Lytton

        MS Teams are superior in every way in my experience.

        Now you’re just trolling.

      • UnCivilServant

        Well, we coulnd’t get the damn thing to work, so it saved us from a meeting.

      • Hyperion

        I’m not trolling, I’m serious. I especially like the screen sharing, because I am sometimes logged into several RDP and VPN sessions at the same time, and when I want to share it will allow me to pick only that VPN or RDP window without having to show my entire desktop and alt+ctrl around.

      • Nephilium

        Both WebEx and Zoom let you share a single window as well. I do it on a regular basis for work. Fuck you am I sharing my full desktop.

      • Hyperion

        I’ve never seen that choice on Zoom. Might just not be looking in the right place, but it’s very obvious on Teams.

      • Rhywun

        You can’t even do a virtual background with Zoom without a green screen?

        I’ve done it.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        Yeah, I think it’s platform dependent. I know it works on Windows and Mac but not Linux, not sure about the web client or mobile devices.

      • Hyperion

        How? I can’t do it on Win 10. Are you using a 3rd party app?

      • Nephilium

        Go to the video settings (either in the client, or in a meeting by clicking the arrow point up in the video icon), Select Background & Filters, and select one of the pre-canned ones or add any image you want as a background. It helps if your background contrasts with what you’re wearing. Since I’m generally wearing a black t-shirt, in a room with a dark background, I can become a floating head.

      • Hyperion

        “dark background”

        I don’t have that, and I’m doing exactly what you just said. I tried it a while, it’s just a mess. I gave up. It’s extremely easy on Skype and Teams.

      • Rhywun

        No. Zoom on Mac.

        To be fair, the button that allows you to select a background has vanished – but if you hover the mouse where it used to be, a tooltip pops up and you can click there.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Both Skype and MS Teams are superior in every way in my experience. You can’t even do a virtual background with Zoom without a green screen? A green screen? WTF? This is 2020!

        I don’t hate Teams, but Skype? Really? Assuming that I can actually stay connected to the meeting, Skype has the nasty habit of dropping sharing or video or audio for the hell of it.

        Also, green screen is optional for virtual backgrounds on zoom.

      • Hyperion

        “Also, green screen is optional for virtual backgrounds on zoom.”

        I can’t make it work.

        Also, never had had Skype drop a connection, and I’ve used it for years.

      • C. Anacreon

        You don’t need a green screen anymore for Zoom, they gave you the option to have a virtual background without a green screen months ago. Just toggle the option on the virtual background page under settings.
        Webex, however, still doesn’t have a virtual background option, green screen or not. I hate webex meetings for that reason…. I’d prefer people not see the cluttered shelves behind me.

    • Atreides

      Does anybody have the link to the online Zoom meeting thingy? /s

      Seriously, thank you for setting up these happy hours, Nephilium. It’s been a treat to commiserate with fellow Glibertarians through the magic of audio and/or video chats.

      That chatting with Glibs gives me hope… I’m off to contemplate this on the Tree of Woe. ?

  10. DEG

    I hope it is c or b.

    • LJW

      Why not both?

      • Hyperion

        I couldn’t find the ‘all of the above’ radio button, so was unable to participate.

  11. Derpetologist

    odds and ends

    Healthy at any size is bunk, but this guy is proof you can be fat and strong:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Ross

    GET IN MAH BELLY!

    Later tonight, I will try to lift an Atlas stone. Based on the diameter, it probably weighs about 150 pounds.

    Lifting stones have proud history:

    ***
    In Iceland, lifting stones were traditionally used to qualify men for work on fishing boats. One such set of stones can be found on the beach of Djúpalónssandur at the foot of Snæfellsjökull. Another set can be found at Hvallátur. To qualify, a man would have to lift at least the hálfdrættingur stone to hip-height onto a ledge. Lifting heavier stones would entitle the man to a greater share of the catch.

    The stones at Djúpalónssandur are classified as:

    amlóði (“useless”) at 23 kg (50.7 pounds)
    hálfdrættingur (“weakling”) at 54 kg (119 pounds)
    hálfsterkur (“half strength”) at 100 kg (220.5 pounds)
    fullsterkur (“full strength”) weighing 154 kg (339.5 pounds)

    One of the most famous Icelandic stones is the Húsafell Stone which weighs 186 kg (410 lb).
    ***

    That’s a hell of job interview.

    “Very nice, Mr. Magnusson. What very heavy stones do you see yourself lifting in 5 years?”

    ***
    The Húsafell Stone is a lifting stone located in Húsafell, Iceland.[1] The stone weighs 186 kg (409 lb)[1] and was kept near a sheep pen built by reverend Snorri Björnsson over two hundred years ago.[1]

    The stone has been used as a test of strength by either simply lifting the stone, or by lifting and carrying the stone around the goat pen where it is located. The Húsafell Stone is known as pen slab (Kvíahellan) in Iceland, as it was used as a door to the sheep pens.[1] Someone who could only lift the stone up to their knees would be lazybones,[a] those who could lift it up to the waist would be considered half-strong,[b] and a full-strong[c] could lift it up to the breast and walk with it around the perimeter of the sheep pen.[2]
    ***

    satire idea

    Sharks Celebrate Hillary Clinton Week

    • Derpetologist

      Glenn Ross?

      COFFEE IS FOR CLOSERS!

    • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

      Jesus P. Murphy.

      “Congratulations, you’ve lifted the ‘full-strength’ stone! Hey, what’s that sudden bulge you’ve got on the right side of your abdomen just above your penis?”

    • UnCivilServant

      “Very nice, Mr. Magnusson. What very heavy stones do you see yourself lifting in 5 years?”

      “I will lift the world stone and the sky will tremble.”

    • Hyperion

      Fat and strong. Yes, you can. Look at all the NFL backs and power lifters who are fat.

      But that doesn’t mean being fat is good for your long term health. It isn’t. How many really old fat people have you seen? Most older people who are still active, are not fat, most are very slim.

      • EvilSheldon

        You can be fat and strong. You cannot be fat and healthy. Different metrics.

    • pistoffnick

      “…proof you can be fat and strong…”

      That’s what I keep telling myself.

      I saw a documentary once about a Hawaiian Sumo wrestler. He was fat but also amazingly fast and really strong.

      • Hyperion

        Right up until he died from a massive heart attack.

  12. Derpetologist

    ‘Nearly half’ of CNN’s GOP commentators are backing Biden, report finds
    The network has very few on-air contributors who support President Trump

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-gop-commentators-back-biden

    [head desk]

    Great job, Team Red. Way to stick together.

    • Hyperion

      “CNN’s GOP commentators”

      lol

      • TARDis

        “Your turn in the barrel, bitchez.”

      • J. Frank Parnell

        Yeah, “nearly half” is surprisingly low for that group.

      • Hyperion

        I don’t know who they are, but I have noticed that everytime CNN start about how GOP members support Biden, it’s always the same people, Mittens and that type. It’s why I laughed at the term “CNN’s GOP commentators”.

        Might was well say ‘The NYT’s constitutionalist advisory panel’.

    • peachy rex

      I would think that you would rather *not* have CNN’s “GOP commentators” on your side.

    • blackjack

      They failed when they took jobs at CNN. It’s shocking that half of them would consider not backing Biden. Question is: What do you call it when half of the libertarian ticket backs Hillary? And, what if the other half backs forced cake baking?

      • Hyperion

        “half of the libertarian ticket backs Hillary”

        You mean the cocktail party gang over at TOS? That’s why the LP is a bad joke.

        I did finally check out this JoJo gorgen whatever. Commie light? If we needed commie lite, we already had Tulsi and she’s got nice tits! Tulsi’s tits for LP candidate 2024!

      • Lackadaisical

        XD

        The SocJus shit is old and tired, but otherwise, where will you find a candidate who is pro-gun like that?

        It is sad that I can’t say I unabashedly support her though. Fucking LP.

  13. Derpetologist

    Current Affairs makes a good point for once. Turns out that Atlantic twit was a big-time war monger. And it got him ponies. For real.
    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/09/trumps-corrosive-values-will-spread

    ***
    With so many morally monstrous characters strutting about, it’s hard to take the one hundred thousandth declaration of Mr. Trump’s supposed singular moral horror very seriously. This is especially true considering who is usually making the charges. Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic and the author of the “suckers and losers” report, was “one of the leading media cheerleaders for the attack on Iraq,” loudly trumpeting falsehoods–including the outrageous claim that Saddam Hussein had ties to Al Qaeda–used to justify the invasion and destruction of that nation. Goldberg was rewarded for his criminal journalistic malpractice with lavish enticements to join the Atlantic which reportedly included gifts of ponies for Goldberg’s children. The former Israeli prison guard, who even conservative hawk Andrew Sullivan has mocked as a mouthpiece for Bibi Netanyahu, has since continued to serve as flatter-in-chief for the violent imperial urges of the day, and as court scribe writing with grandiosity about the “Obama Doctrine.”
    ***

  14. Derpetologist

    On question of “Congress shall make no law”, there’s a great essay called The Myth of the Rule of Law

    synopsis from Mises

    ***
    For example, despite the US Constitution’s very clear language in most of its passages (there are some dangerously vague sections, of course), the most trained and brilliant legal minds can come to completely opposite conclusions over the exact same clause. Whether it is a particular amendment in the Bill of Rights or the particular language of executive or legislative power, a liberal and conservative judge could use sound reasoning and cite historical precedent to make their case — and they would both be right. “[B]ecause the law consists of contradictory rules and principles,” argues John Hasnas, “sound legal arguments will be available for all legal conclusions, and hence, the normative predispositions of the decision makers, rather than the law itself, determine the outcome of cases.”

    The law, then, is not a neutral body of rules to help keep order and govern society; it is merely an opinion with a gun. Whenever the state is in charge of anything, the outcomes, process, and administration are always political in nature. There can never be a system of definite, consistent rules that produce determinate results because these laws, no matter how they are written, will always be subjected to the biases, prejudices, and discrimination of those who interpret and enforce them.
    ***

    Hasnas uses the example of music. Is it speech? Strictly speaking, no. Singing is not the same as talking. So one could argue that the govt does have the power to regulate music.

    the kill shot

    ***
    In fact, I dare say I can read your thoughts. You are thinking that even if I have shown that the
    present legal system is somewhat indetenninate, I certainly have not shown that the law is
    inherently political. Although you may agree that the law as presently constituted is too vague or
    contains too many contradictions, you probably believe that this state of affairs is due to the
    actions of the liberal judicial activists, or the Reaganite adherents of the doctrine of original intent,

    or the self-serving politicians, or the (feel free to fill in your favorite candidate for the group
    that is responsible for the legal system’s ills) However, you do not believe that the law must be
    this way, that it can never be definite and politically neutral. You believe that the law can be
    reformed; that to bring about an end to political strife and institute a true rule of law, we merely
    need to create a legal system comprised of consistent rules that are expressed in clear, definite
    language.

    It is my sad duty to inform you that this cannot be done. Even with all the good will in the
    world, we could not produce such a legal code because there is simply no such thing as
    uninterpretable language.
    ***

    • db

      Maybe we need a compile-able deterministic symbolic language for laws to produce consistent interpretations. And make sure you use a code that allows for proofs.

    • Homple

      “Whenever the state is in charge of anything, the outcomes, process, and administration are always political in nature.”

      Replace “the state” with “the home owners’ association”, “the mob” or “mom and dad” and it’s still true.

    • juris imprudent

      As I recall, Herbert makes a point similar to this in Dune – that a system of law that was truly objective/not-subject-to-interpretation would be oppressive beyond anyone’s ability to tolerate. Such a system would certainly have no room for mercy – and yet we consider that a fairly important element within justice.

      This to my mind has always been the fundamental flaw in anarchist thinking – no really better way of handling human conflict.

      • Derpetologist

        so many to pick from:

        ***
        “All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible.”

        ― Frank Herbert

        “Among my father’s most important messages were that governments lie to protect themselves and they make incredibly stupid decisions. Years after the publication of Dune, Richard M. Nixon provided ample proof. Dad said that Nixon did the American people an immense favor in his attempt to cover up the Watergate misdeeds. By amplified example, albeit unwittingly, the thirty-seventh president of the United States taught people to question their leaders. In interviews and impassioned speeches on university campuses all across the country, Frank Herbert warned young people not to trust government, telling them that the American founding fathers had understood this and had attempted to establish safeguards in the Constitution.”
        ― Frank Herbert

        “The convoluted wording of legalisms grew up around the necessity to hide from ourselves the violence we intend toward each other. Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and depriving him of his life there exists only a difference of degree. You have done violence to him, consumed his energy. Elaborate euphemisms may conceal your intent to kill, but behind any use of power over another the ultimate assumption remains: “I feed on your energy.”
        ― Frank Herbert
        ***

    • mikey

      This shows up here every once in awhile. Which is a good thing.
      This should be read by everyone every couple of years.

      Nothing could be clearer, less ambiguous than “… shall not be abridged” yet how many volumes have been written to “interpret’ these four simple words?

      • blackjack

        This seems pretty clear!

    • Fifth Knight of the Derp Table

      Believe it or not, that essay may have been my first real introduction to the concept of libertarianism. If I remember correctly, he ends the piece by making a strong philosophical argument for Anarcho-capitalism. I didn’t agree with him completely on that, I think in many ways that theory is as willfully blind to human nature as communism. However, it did steer me towards the NAP and helped settle me on the quasi-minarchist views I currently hold.

      Good find!

  15. Hyperion

    I tried posting this in the dead thread, but it was dead. But I just find it too interesting.

    Anyone ever hear about this?

    Mysterious mounds of the Aisle of Pines

    I found this interesting because unlike a lot of there ‘mysteries’, this one has apparently not been solved.

    I read that entire article and there’s been no shortage of far fetched theories thrown out by serious researchers.

    To my untrained eye, those just scream ‘100% natural origin’, IOW, no people involved with that. No tools or anything associated with human activity ever found around them.

    Also, they just look natural, like no sort of pattern that would show human intention. They’re just randomly located.

    My guess, some sort of ancient extinct plant or tree, or that with some sort of organism involved. Like ancient trees destroyed by some infestation of something and that’s what left. The so called ‘concrete’ is just some sort of natural concretions.

      • Hyperion

        Yep, I see the similarity, and of course, they are natural formations.

    • Sean

      Ants.

      Or aliens.

      • Tundra

        Saw the opportunity, but refrained.

        For the youngsters.

      • Nephilium

        The end of the 90’s were a strange time…

        Evidence.

      • Hyperion

        Interesting to watch how people used to be able to have fun without burning shit down and looting. I wonder if it will be remembered in the history books?

      • Sean

        There will be no books but White Fragility in CommaLa’s USA.

      • blackjack

        C’mon! We have the unique opportunity to watch BOTH Steven King’s the Stand AND Lord of the Flies played out in real time! What a time to be alive!

      • Sean

        Part three is gonna be Red Dawn.

      • db

        I just watched the 1990s miniseries of The Stand on Blu-Ray. It holds up pretty well.

      • Hyperion

        The Stand is King’s best film. I love that film.

        He got woke and started sucking badly after that. He sold out to the woketards. That made for TV movie Under the Dome is the worst horseshit I have ever seen. The novel was not bad, they totally ruined it. I can’t see how King didn’t hide his face in shame over that. I haven’t even tried to read anything by him since then.

      • db

        I was (like most fans) utterly disappointed in the Dark Tower series post-book 3. Wizard and Glass sucked, sucked, sucked and I stopped reading there.

      • Rhywun

        Yeah, Book IV bored the everloving shit out of me. Made it maybe a third in, put it down, and never went back to the series.

      • Hyperion

        The first three are masterpieces. Especially Wastelands.

        Yeah, you’re all right, it went downhill with Wizard and Glass. I made it through, but was bored.

        I even made it to Wolves of the Calla, and was like ‘what the fuck am I reading? I didn’t sign up for this’, and that was it.

      • Rhywun

        Yep, I loved esp. II and III.

      • Hyperion

        Hey, Rhywun, don’t go in the yellow water, lobstrosities, you know?

    • Mad Scientist

      Latrines.

    • UnCivilServant

      This smells suspiciously of rectal narcotics.

      • Nephilium

        /hangs head in shame and goes in the box

      • UnCivilServant

        I mean, it’s still a funny story.

    • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

      Some guys just have an ‘in’ with The Big Guy. Lucky bastards.

    • Hyperion

      I thought that Tiki bars should be filled with drinks?

      • UnCivilServant

        You ahven’t heard of Whiskey Priests?

    • Sean

      ?

      • DEG

        Yep.

    • Derpetologist

      ***
      DiMezzo said in her blog post that her victory in the primary was an argument for anarchism because of how “clueless the average voter is.” She garnered 4,211 votes, easily beating a traditional candidate who received only a few hundred votes, election results show.

      “Sweet Satan, how can you not be an anarchist?!” she wrote. “Between 75 and 80 percent of the primary voters — the ones alleged to be more politically aware than the average voter — were completely and totally ignorant of who they were voting for! What is the percentage with the average voter? 90 percent? 95 percent? These people are deciding who gets to rule you,” she said, before calling on Cheshire County to secede from both New Hampshire and the U.S.
      ***

      Oh, how I laughed.

      • EvilSheldon

        She kinda has a point…

    • Hyperion

      I take it that the GOP has given up that race.

  16. UnCivilServant

    What is this “Mountain Dew Zero” and why would the store think it’s an acceptable substitute for my Diet Mountain Dew order?

    • Derpetologist

      It’s the same thing. They just changed the name to make it more appealing for men, because diet soda is for womenfolk. Usually.

      • UnCivilServant

        The ingredient list doesn’t even come close to being the same.

      • Derpetologist

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mountain_Dew_flavors_and_varieties#Current

        ***
        A low-calorie variant first introduced in 1988.[2] It was formerly known as “Sugar-Free Mountain Dew” until 1986, when it was given its current name. In 2006 Diet Mountain Dew was reformulated with a new “Tuned Up Taste”, using a blend of sucralose, aspartame, and acesulfame potassium as sweeteners. The previous formulation was sweetened exclusively with aspartame.[3]

        A no-calorie variant introduced in 2020, intended to more closely replicate the taste of regular Mountain Dew than Diet Mountain Dew.
        ***

      • UnCivilServant

        But the 2006 Diet formulation tastes better.

      • Derpetologist

        I’m just going to back away slowly now.

      • commodious spittoon

        The fuck? Not only is Mountain Dew ancient, but the sugar-free variety is older than I am?

      • UnCivilServant

        The wiki entries can’t even decide when diet was introduced, or when the name change happened, so I can’t count on the accuracy of the page.

      • Hyperion

        When I was a kid, I had it in the green bottles with the guy with a ceramic jug in his hand. It was awful, nothing but neon green colored corn syrup and some weird flavor. I hated it, but lots of guys drank it, probably for all that sugar and caffeine.

      • blackjack

        Then came Jolt cola. After that it was ” Mountain who?”

      • commodious spittoon

        I’d’ve sworn it came out in middle school in the late 90s. And thinking back, I have absolutely nothing substantive to back that up. The entire world was invented in the late 90s as far as I know. Mom and dad bought a Honda about then, so apparently the Civic was invented in the late 90s, as well as Honda, and auto manufacturing, and Japan.

      • Rhywun

        That sounds like the “classic” version I found in the store a few years ago. I didn’t like it either.

      • Hyperion

        “I’d’ve sworn it came out in middle school in the late 90s.”

        I can tell you for certain it was around in the 60s.

      • Hyperion

        From Wiki:

        The original formula was invented in 1940 by Tennessee beverage bottlers Barney and Ally Hartman. A revised formula was created by Bill Bridgforth[1] in 1958.

      • EvilSheldon

        I was once dicking around with one of those computerized soda machines that will mix and dispense anything in the Coca-Cola catalog. I discovered that Mountain Dew is pretty much ginger ale with orange. Try it if you get the chance, the taste is remarkably close.

      • Hyperion

        It’s not ginger ale, well it wasn’t when I tried it.

        The only real commercial brand Ginger Ale I know of, is Vernors. All the other big brand ginger ale is Seven Up or Sprite with a different label.

      • EvilSheldon

        Yeah, we’ve already established that your taste buds are fucked up. No need to dwell on it further.

      • UnCivilServant

        And the flavor is awful – it tastes like the regular crap.

      • Derpetologist

        Ha!

        That’s what they were trying to do.

      • UnCivilServant

        I refer you to my other comment

        UnCivilServant on September 12, 2020 at 6:16 pm

        But the 2006 Diet formulation tastes better.

      • Rhywun

        I did the research a while back and I couldn’t discover if there was any difference. But I wouldn’t mind a better-tasting diet Dew.

      • UnCivilServant

        The ingredients list is nothing alike.

        And it depends on whether you like the taste of regular dew.

        I’m going to have to find someone to offload these bottles on, because I will never drink them.

      • Rhywun

        Regular Dew was a mainstay for two decades.

      • Ted S.

        Just drink water.

      • Rhywun

        Vodka water is a terrible drink.

      • pistoffnick

        But, Vodka and Diet Squirt is excellent.

      • commodious spittoon

        Is vodka water like a Midas curse?

      • Rhywun

        *files for future reference*

      • Rhywun

        Seriously… I’ve been looking for ages for a diet soda that goes with vodka. Diet 7-Up isn’t half bad. I don’t think I’ve seen Diet Squirt anywhere but I’ll keep an eye open.

      • pistoffnick

        Vodka and Fresca works equally well, but Fresca doesn’t go on sale as often around here.

      • Rhywun

        Yeah, vodka Fresca is not bad. But I find I get tired of it after a while and start tasting the diet too much and have to move on to something else.

      • kinnath

        Mountain Dew Zero is crap

        Mountain Dew Throw-Back has apparently been thrown-back and has been replaced with Mountain Dew Real Sugar, which is also crap.

    • westernsloper

      Zero cal’s. Maybe they are trying to tell you something?

    • Hyperion

      Maybe it will be the official antifa drink.

      I can just see the commercial with some antifa dude on the street with flaming building in the background:

      ‘Whenever your’re rioting and burning, and you’re running out of energy and don’t know when the next pallet of bricks and fireworks will arrive, Mountain Dew Zero hits the spot, ahhh, key Zookie, look over there, there’s a CVS over there that hasn’t been looted, let’s go! *tosses bottle of Moutain Dew Zero to Zookie*’.

      • UnCivilServant

        Well, it does dress in black and have terrible taste.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      You drink…DIET…Mountain Dew?

      This answers so many questions, yet raise so many more.

      • commodious spittoon

        Who doesn’t? Diet soda is like masturbation. It feels good, affects nothing, and if you feel guilty about it that’s between you and God.

      • Derpetologist

        What’s the best part about masturbation?

        You don’t have to talk to anyone afterwards.

        “As a pleasure, it is too fleeting. As a pastime, it is too tiring. And it is totally unsuited to the drawing room.”

        -Mark Twain

      • blackjack

        Just don’t let it get out of hand.

      • Derpetologist

        ***
        Upon being challenged for masturbating in the marketplace, Diogenes replied, ‘If only it were so easy to soothe hunger by rubbing an empty belly’.
        ***

      • mexican sharpshooter

        No. Your grocery store makes note of your purchases and will offer you coupons.

      • UnCivilServant

        Only Glibs judge me for drinking Diet Dew.

        No one in real life cares.

      • commodious spittoon

        How can Glibs be real if our eyes aren’t real?

  17. dbleagle

    Our heat is down a some today, 84 now with nice Trade Winds and 75 expected tonight. I am making tomato salad since I picked a bunch from the garden today and I used the last group for garlic soup. I gave away about 25 avocados and my next set of sunflowers, squash and watermelon are coming along well. I found yet another bunch of apple bananas in my patch so now I have 3 bunches (~300 bananas) hanging there- hopefully they’ll space out becoming ripe.

    Tomorrow I’ll go to the bar to eat breakfast and watch the Packers (sound will be off) followed by a sail. I am stuck on a rock, but it is not a bad rock to be stuck on.

    • westernsloper

      Tomorrow I’ll go to the bar to eat breakfast and watch the Packers (sound will be off) followed by a sail.

      This might be the description of a perfect Sunday.

    • blackjack

      Well, I’ll be here around dinner time!

      • Hyperion

        With my can of dinner and a bunch of fine!

  18. Old Man With Candy

    I’m culturally appropriating from the Chinese again tonight (last night was potstickers).

    I warned my ass that it was going to have a rough morning ahead.

    • EvilSheldon

      Tonight was a Kale Caesar salad, New York Strip, and broccoli with Hillbilly Hollandaise, two Aviation cocktails, three Goose Island IPAs, and a few espressos. My ass ain’t gonna make it ’til the morning.

    • Lackadaisical

      I warned my ass that it was going to have a rough morning ahead.

      Man, SP gets to have all the fun.

    • DEG

      Yes.

  19. westernsloper

    LOL

    • Count Potato

      Old, but still funny.

  20. Suthenboy

    He is naked and handcuffed to the bed with a gag in his mouth. His wallet and silverware are long gone.

    • Nephilium

      So just another Saturday night?

  21. Derpetologist

    NJR imagines life without money:
    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/09/the-possibility-of-life-without-money

    ***
    Let me describe to you an imagined place where money has virtually disappeared from people’s lives:

    Pleasant Acres is one of those awful Florida retirement villages full of Trump supporters where everyone plays pickleball and does salsa dancing.

    Eventually, Pleasant Acres was so pleasant that it attracted many visitors, who liked to take its classes and attend the movie nights. The visitors were charged money (unless they were from elsewhere in the Pleasant Acres Network), and eventually the intake from visitors became substantial. At this point, Pleasant Acres did something interesting: it cut the workweek in half, and it entirely eliminated the $100,000 annual fee, instead simply requiring 20 hours a week of work from all residents. Supplies the facility needed to purchase from outside (new lawnmowers, electronics, food, medical equipment) were paid for with the tourist revenue. But much was made inside the village, and all the work was simply done by the village residents. Performing the work guaranteed that when you eventually became unable to do work, you were still allowed to live and use all the amenities as before.

    There was, of course, eventually a labor uprising, because the seniors of the village realized at a certain point that upper management was extraneous. They refused any longer to let extra tourist revenue go to the company’s profits, and insisted it be split among the workers equally. Because the company had made the mistake of becoming dependent on the village residents, it was forced to democratize.

    And thus was Socialism In One Retirement Village achieved.
    ***

    Very imaginative, Nate. Do you have any real examples of this actually happening?

    And even your fantasy requires *other* people to pay for things!

    • Nephilium

      There are no cities that are dependent on tourism dollars now. None at all.

      Well… there won’t be after another year or so of lockdown.

    • commodious spittoon

      Or, and let me know if I’m stretching the ol gray matter too far, we go to work in highly capitalized firms putting our efforts to the long lever arm of productivity, you know, letting the machines do most of the work, and then we collect a paycheck and then we use that paycheck to buy the things we want to buy, rather than pretending that work is just the application of effort to some task, whatever it is, however it gets done.

    • Derpetologist

      In Tanzania between 1973 and 1975, millions of people were forced into planned villages for collective farming. It was called Ujamaa (familyhood, togetherness). Crop yields plummeted. Managers stole equipment and fertilizer and sold it on the black market. I met a guy who lived through it who said after a while it was impossible to buy things like soap and toothpaste.

      The lefty vermin at wiki blame it all on bad luck, of course.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ujamaa#Ujamaa_Villages_and_Tanzanian_Villagization

      ***
      Eventually a number of factors contributed to the downfall of the development model based on the Ujamaa concept. Among those factors were the oil crisis of the 1970s, the collapse of export commodity prices (particularly coffee and sisal), a lack of foreign direct investment, two successive droughts, and the onset of the war with Uganda in 1978, which bled the young Tanzanian nation of valuable resources.

      There were also internal factors that lead to the implosion of the Ujamaa program. The first was resistance from the public. During the 1970s there was a resistance from the peasantry to leave their individual farms and move to communal living due to the lack of personal capital that came out of the communal farms. This led President Nyerere to order forced movement to Ujamaa villages.[citation needed] Public frustration did not help the Ujamaa villages in producing acceptable agricultural yields.

      Another issue that created friction in the success of Ujamaa was the importance of self-reliance during a time of neoliberal international economic policies. These international economic policies made it particularly difficult for newly independent countries such as Tanzania to be able to grow even with the mentality of self-propagated economic production.

      By 1985 it was clear that Ujamaa had failed to lift Tanzania out of its poor economic state; Nyerere announced that he would retire voluntarily after presidential elections that same year.
      ***

      • Rhywun

        Managers stole equipment and fertilizer and sold it on the black market.

        Shit… the urbane lefty doesn’t have to go any farther than the Park Slope Food Co-op here in Brooklyn to see the same fucking process in action.

        resistance from the public

        You don’t say.

      • Hyperion

        None of these utopia schemes have ever worked out. The ensuing catastrophe just varies in scope, from the Soviet Union where tens of millions were starved to death to the recent example of CHOP in Seattle.

        But nevertheless it is always a shit show. You saw CHOP, you see Portland today. That is what the democrats want for the entire country, so something much more on the scale of the Soviet Union disaster wise.

    • Gustave Lytton

      it entirely eliminated the $100,000 annual fee, instead simply requiring 20 hours a week of work from all residents

      You know who else required all residents of their gated communities to work?

      • Derpetologist

        I saw a documentary once about a place where everyone had free housing, food, clothing, education, and medical care.

        I think it was called a “prison”.

        Another time, I saw a movie about a country where only the police and the military had guns.

        It’s called Schindler’s List.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Sorry. Was looking for Tom Sah.

    • commodious spittoon

      Lamposts. Rope. Apply as needed. JFC

    • Count Potato

      WTF??

    • Hyperion

      This is the global socialist utopia that is so much for the good of us all.

      Why do American resist this utopia and giving people healthcare? Did you know that Australia and every civilized country besides the USA has healthcare?

    • db

      Maybe we’ll find out soon just how many actually turned in their weapons…

    • creech

      These are the great grandsons and grandsons of the guys who fought at Gallipoli and Tobruk?

      • Lackadaisical

        Most those probably died before having kids… so, no?

    • blackjack

      I once had friend who was a vet. He told me that when he finally got some leave, he took it in Australia. At the airport they asked him if he had any criminal convictions. He replied ” I didn’t realize you still had to to get in here.”

      • Count Potato

        LOL

    • Mad Scientist

      What in the actual fuck?

    • Tundra

      No, just a shithead representing a group who doesn’t understand messaging, marketing or results.

      • creech

        The LP has never decided if it is a libertarian supper club, an ideological activist organization, or a political party. Has failed to do any of them correctly.

      • Hyperion

        I decided that libertarian cannot, by definition be a political party. It’s even worse than saying ‘independent’ is a political party. The only way you get more independent than independent is libertarian. Herding cats and all that.

    • Lackadaisical

      Sure, it isn’t 100%, but it is way better than we’d get with anyone else in office.

      Not that there is any chance of it.

    • Viking1865

      A Hero of Freedom.

    • J. Frank Parnell

      Early frontrunner for 2024 LP candidate.

      • Hyperion

        +1 libertarian moment

    • Lackadaisical

      Agree with others saying it definitely isn’t pelosi’s mansion as thats in a gated community.

  22. Aloysious

    f) running around with underwear on his head hooting and hollering.

    • Hyperion

      I can’t even fathom why you’d imagine a Glib has ever done such a thing.

      • Aloysious

        You mean you haven’t?

        Hunh. The more you know.

      • Hyperion

        I have lots of stories, but that’s either not one of them, or I can’t remember.

  23. CPRM

    As is the tradition. I’ll kick of a Zoom Virtual Happy Hour tonight at 20:00 Eastern. Maybe if I put Zoom in the post, people will stop asking about it later in the thread.

    /expects people to ask about it later in the thread.

    Wait, so does that mean there is a Neph hosted Zoom tonight?

    • Hyperion

      Are pants required?

      • Ted S.

        If you want to wear a French maid outfit nobody’s stopping you.

      • UnCivilServant

        No, no, Ted, he wanted a French-made outfit!

      • Nephilium

        If they were, I wouldn’t be on.

      • Rhywun

        I can’t wait for my first pantsless work Zoom or whatever the fuck software they use – prolly gotomeeting.

  24. Hyperion

    So I hear that Tulsi is QAnon now?

    Good for her, I don’t even know what it is.

    • J. Frank Parnell

      Yeah, she tweeted that child sex trafficking is bad, so definitely QAnon.

      Related: I saw a QAnon protest today in Costa Mesa. About two dozen people on the sidewalk with handwritten ‘boycott Netflix’ and ‘boycott Disney’ signs along with some some pre-printed ‘save our children’ signs.

      • blackjack

        EVERY.THING.IS,A.LIE! Welcome to 2020, if that’s the real year!

  25. Derpetologist

    https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/09/11/912136432/9-protesters-confronted-by-gun-waving-st-louis-couple-get-trespassing-citations

    ***
    Nine Black Lives Matter protesters who were confronted by a white St. Louis couple waving an AR 15-style rifle and a semi-automatic pistol as they allegedly stood guard on the beautifully manicured lawn of their mansion, have been issued trespassing summonses for marching onto a private property.

    On Sept. 4, Black Lives Matter activist Ohun Ashe posted on Twitter that she had received a summons from the police department.

    “I was just sent a summons to appear in court for ‘trespassing on private property’ on Portland Pl aka the street Patricia and Mark McCloskey live on,” she wrote.

    “I had a gun waved in my face by them but trespassing is what matters?” she added.

    In July, Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner recommended “that the McCloskeys participate in one of my office’s diversion programs.” And Missouri Gov. Mike Parson said he would likely pardon the couple if they were charged.
    ***

    [Nelson laugh]

    • Rhywun

      allegedly stood guard

      lol

      Never change, NPR.

    • Homple

      “…as they allegedly stood guard on the beautifully manicured lawn of their mansion….”

      Allegedly, beautifully manicured lawn, mansion.

      Whoever wrote that was wide awake and taking notes in journalism class for the Loaded Words lecture.

      • Hyperion

        “as they allegedly stood guard on the beautifully manicured lawn”

        Right after they smashed down their gate. Was that wrong?

    • Lackadaisical

      “I had a gun waved in my face by them but trespassing is what matters?” she added.

      Yes, you dumb fuck, because context matters.

    • Rhywun

      Geraldo lives in Shaker Heights?! That’s unexpected.

      • blackjack

        Spoiler: his house is empty. There’s nothing in it!

      • Rhywun

        heh

      • Nephilium

        Yeah. I was surprised by that as well. Apparently the girlfriend knew that, but she’s from a more upscale class of people then me.

  26. Sensei

    This popped up in my YouTube feed. No idea why.

    I present the most overbuilt staircase. I don’t think it could contain more screws. But I want him here to build mine…

    https://youtu.be/wf82wpH7Li4

    • UnCivilServant

      … I can’t understand a word he’s saying and those subtitles look foreign.

      So why did he chalk “UP” in English?

      • Sensei

        The subtitles match what he’s saying!

        You’d be surprised at the amount of written English used day to day.

    • mikey

      Impressive. With all those screws them stairs ain’t never gonna squeak.
      Love the way he used the wooden block plane as a planer and jointer to true up the edges and the flat surfaces. I want that plane.

      • Sensei

        Plus the treads are quite thick as well.

        Always enjoyable watching people who take pride in their work.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Contrast

      https://youtu.be/vyAVCv5QTpc

      I enjoy his channel immensely but he’s comes from a production craft background plus US building codes and material.

      OT- thanks for the one take channel link the other day. Not very familiar with current Jpop other than some of the better known names but always up for more content. Reminds me I’ve been slacking in my studies.

      • Sensei

        Nothing wrong with that either.

        I’m amazed how tight and steep stairs are in Japan.

        I usually let YouTube do it’s thing and feed me content. The algo works surprisingly well.

      • Lackadaisical

        If someone could just build some stairs that actually fit my entire foot…

      • Lackadaisical

        Ugh, glue and osb stairs, that makes my pp soft.

  27. Rhywun

    Dragging this over from the last thread:

    Comet Channel is starting Dr. Who: Invasion Earth 2150 right now.

    This channel is not available here but I just found that I can stream it on Apple TV.

    They have Sliders!!!

    • Nephilium

      That show got weird in the later seasons.

      I still preferred Quantum Leap.

      • Rhywun

        Hm. Quantum Leap wasn’t bad but I preferred Sliders. I didn’t see the later seasons, FWIW.

      • Raven Nation

        Sliders kind of progressively lost its way as the original cast left.

      • TARDis

        Unfortunately, yes.

    • Raven Nation

      I thought you didn’t do streaming?

      • Rhywun

        Needs must with sci-fi.

      • Rhywun

        Plus… I have to admit that my service has caught up with the needs of streaming. Used to be all laggy and shit… not so much any more.

        Oh and it’s free so there’s that.

    • Sean

      ??

    • blackjack

      Well, stop wasting them!

      • commodious spittoon

        I went singing to the supermart.

        The y don’t care for karaoke.

      • Hyperion

        Dude, fix your links. We’re here for you. We’ll get through this shit.

      • blackjack

        Admitting it is the first step.

      • commodious spittoon

        I don’t have a problem. I’m fucking golden.

        Gentlemen.

        When I finally kill myself it’ll be awesome.

        I’ll go out loving you all.

        We’ll go out together. It’ll be great.

      • blackjack

        There’s a song for that!

      • Nephilium

        commodius:

        If not for yourself, then for us. No offing yourself, please.

      • pistoffnick

        Dude, I’m not ready to go yet. There are lots of things I want to do yet:
        -learn a few songs on the guitar (chicks dig gui-tar players)
        – write a book.
        – build a log or timber-frame cabin.
        – write the perfect love song.
        – sail to Hawaii
        – raise my own bacon.
        – tap several maple trees and make maple syrup.
        – canoe the entire length of the Mississippi river
        – Sail the Grand Circle route
        – Circumnavigate the globe in a sailboat
        – Make love to a Jamaican chick
        – Hike the Appalachian trail

      • Hyperion

        Hey CS, what sort of stuff do you really like to talk about?

        Because I think all of us like to talk about something more than something else.

        Throw something out there and let’s get into it.

      • blackjack

        Seriously, there’s nothing to be sorry about. If drunkeness is a crime, color me guilty. Tomorrow, it’ll just be a headache and an aversion to loud sounds. Relax, we’re all just people doing our best. Feel free to talk to me at my handle +cc at gmail, seriously. Either way, we all want to be talking with you tomorrow.

      • Hyperion

        Just stop that shit, bro. I was serious, we’re here for you, it’s always better after the darkest point. We get you. There’s never any reason to give up, never.

      • commodious spittoon

        I’m drunk and I’m sorry. I’m a sorry sorry sot.

      • Nephilium

        commodius:

        There’s nothing to apologize for. Feel free to be drunk, but don’t apologize for anything. If you really need someone to talk to, feel free to reach out to me at my handle at Google’s mail.

      • Hyperion

        Don’t be sorry, man. Just promise us that you will be back here tomorrow morning to discuss stuff that you’re interested in, because I want to engage.

      • commodious spittoon

        Better now. No less drunk but better.Sorry to give worry. I’m not going to top myself.

      • Hyperion

        Me too, email me any time. You might have to remind me here to check my email.

        But I remember you from way back a long time ago from TOS, we can’t lose you, you’re a great poster here and so just talk to us and stay strong. It gets better.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Same what Hyperion says. Lost my stepson that way a couple years ago. I’d move the world if I could to bring him back.

      • commodious spittoon

        <

        I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry

      • commodious spittoon

        Jesus my god Gustave I’d give anything to turm that it around.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I do too. I didn’t mean to add to any burdens. Just that that path doesn’t really fix anything.

    • pistoffnick

      A Duloot band gone big time! I recognize many of those places.

  28. Rhywun

    USL is pulling the center-circle protest at the 7th minute theater. I’m done with this shit. Even MLS isn’t going there.

    • Hyperion

      I’ve given up the sportsball, all of it.

      I talked to my son yesterday and he is so sad. We’ve been watching NFL together for 30 years and he wants to watch a game tomorrow. I had to tell him no.

      I hope they all go fucking broke. The future NFL prospects can go wash windows and the execs can become homeless. Fuck them all.

      • Rhywun

        I think it was your similarly-prefixed associate who said he could see past all this crap. I can too – up to a point.

        MLS puts it in your face where the fans used to sit. I can deal with that.

        But fucking interrupting the match? No. Just, no.

      • Hyperion

        Umm, that is what NFL just did. There were people who intentionally skipped the pregame so they didn’t have to see it. Then they apparently stopped the game in the 4th quarter to rub it in people’s face. They seem to be more than pissed.

        I’m talking about the Chiefs/Texans games, where the fans booed pre-game, and some of the players said ‘oh, why are they doing that, I don’t get it’.

        Of course you don’t get it, you fucking pampered little privileged fucking brats, because the real world is not a game. When you’re forced to live in the real world because you helped destroy you own good fortune to help a bunch of Marxist losers.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Woke Forest had fists on their helmets against Clemson. It obviously didn’t help. It made me root for Clemson to crush them.

      • Hyperion

        Maybe they can rename to Woke Forest?

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        The Woke Forest Fisters.

      • Brochettaward

        I like how black power symbols are just accepted.

  29. Raven Nation

    Is the Zooming still going?

    • Nephilium

      It is. Link upthread.

      • Raven Nation

        I’m in the waiting room.

  30. TARDis

    Mrs T. and I just watched several episodes of Cobra Kai. She pretty much hated it. I thought it was pretty good. I could be sympathetic to most of the characters without idealizing them. She could not….

    • blackjack

      My kid watched a bunch of that. It’s funny, because it takes place in a bunch of local neighborhoods and has a lot of insider comments. That Macchio guy grew up around here. It’s a throwback to when all TV and most movies were centered on LA locations. I enjoyed it, mostly.

      • TARDis

        I’ll be enjoying it by myself apparently.

    • The Other Kevin

      Mrs TOK also hated it. But I’m into season 2 already and I think it’s great.

    • Cancelled

      I think it does the whole “morally ambiguous character” thing very well. Everyone wants their game/book/show to show the moral gray area everyone inhabits, but most of them do it clumsily by having people act out of character randomly. Cobra Kai does a very good job of setting up both the good and the bad behavior of the characters as being natural behavior for them. Human flaws are much more interesting when they emerge naturally, rather than because the writer says “Ok, character X is just too good, time for the rape murder scene” or “Hmm, no one is hoing to root for Hitler at all, maybe have a scene where he feeds puppies”

      • TARDis

        The character development is seriously lacking, but we’ll see where it goes.

  31. The Other Kevin

    I’ve been hearing loud music all night. I though the neighbors were having a party. Turns out there’s some kind of concert at the fairgrounds. Nice to see some things are getting back to normal.

    • Hyperion

      I can hear Pimlico concerts up here. About 5 miles north. I’m not sure if I haven’t heard any this summer is due to commie cooties, or the neighborhood meeting they had around here last fall, complaining about the noise. I mean it was freaking loud, including all day long helicopter fly overs.

    • blackjack

      Lucky bastard! Ain’t been no live music venues all fucking year, and according to our “DR” from the county, we don’t get to until after the election. Yes, she actually, accidentally said after election day. Fucking whore bitch! Woulda already been to 2-3 concerts and numerous bar band nights by now.

  32. Brochettaward

    The Bro is here. Now shit can really get started. This might as well be the First post.

    • Hyperion

      We’re just glad you didn’t endure another naked fall through a glass top table, like it was told of last night.

    • Cancelled

      Wow #44, just like Obama.

      • Hyperion

        Woketard is half black? Why didn’t anyone tell us!? Black Woketards matter!

      • Gustave Lytton

        Birther, firster… it’s all the same.

      • Brochettaward

        I’m starting to think you’re all gay but me.

      • Hyperion

        That’s why we’re all sure that you’re more gay than anyone. NTTAWWT.

      • Brochettaward

        It’s a homo-iracy.

      • blackjack

        So, feels like the fist time?

  33. Derpetologist

    Thank god the liquor stores are closed.

    recently at The Atlantic

    Is This the Secret to Selling Joe Biden?

    Young people aren’t particularly excited about Joe Biden. One strategy to change their mind? Convince them that they’re voting for a big, progressive crew.

    ***
    The Democratic Avengers has since become one of the group’s most popular messages about Biden, according to its surveys, and the idea has made its way into ads. One features action-movie music, a comic-book font, and various Democrats stylized as cartoon characters. Bernie Sanders, it reads, “supports a $15 minimum wage!” Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is “champion of [the] Green New Deal!” Joe Biden, meanwhile, “is building the team that we want to run things!” A similar theme has also made its way into an ad by Students for [Ed] Markey, another old guy who recently triumphed somewhat unexpectedly. Recently, The Late Show With Stephen Colbert made a loving send-up with a similar Avengers theme.
    ***

    The ad in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=678wgwQLpa4

    ratio’d with brutal comments

    • Derpetologist

      ***
      If the Avengers model works beyond focus groups and the occasional YouTube video, it could suggest that young people, or at least Democrats, or at least young Democrats, are actually more interested in liberal policies than they are in charismatic candidates. Rather than get fired up about Biden’s personality, 20-somethings might thrill to a coterie of technocrats who have concrete proposals to change the way the country works. Brent Cohen, the executive director of Generation Progress, another youth-voting advocacy group, told me that he’s not worried about the Biden enthusiasm gap because “young people vote based on policy.” And he and other Democratic strategists believe that when it comes to policy, the choice for young voters is clear.
      ***

      [anguished Zoidberg groan]

      • Derpetologist

        ***
        The prospects of the Avengers strategy are still murky. The Avengers-style ad by NextGen had 145 views on YouTube when I last played it. Young voters’ cynicism about Biden and other traditional politicians might extend to a PAC’s dorky attempt to convince them that senators are superheroes.
        ***

        [Kif sigh]

      • Brochettaward

        You’re not one of them, are you Derp? One of the gays?

      • Brochettaward

        You’re all trying to have sex with me!

      • Hyperion

        lol, that made me laugh. Am I’m not trying to be sarcastic, that was actually funny. Good one.

      • C. Anacreon

        “Why do all these homosexuals keep sucking my dick?”

    • Chafed

      Isn’t NexGen America actually Tom Steyer’s PAC? That guy knows how to spend heaps of money but he doesn’t know how to get anyone, including himself, elected.

    • Lackadaisical

      Yeah, but most of the comments are from commie fucks.

      ***hope for humanity dwindling***

    • Hyperion

      That was a parody, right?

    • Chafed

      Those are great photos.

  34. mikey

    There’s supposidly a Chinese curse may you get what you wish for. This little girl gets her wish,

    https://youtu.be/ETrWMvicKps

    • Brochettaward

      That video has approximately 13,890,000 more views than the Tom Steyer super PAC videos posted above.

      • mikey

        Maybe we’re not so screwed up after all.

      • salted earth

        toot toot

    • Brochettaward

      Flashbacks to the Dallas shooting that the media swept under the rug. BLM inspired murder doesn’t help the narrative.

      • Rhywun

        Flashback to two NYC cops murdered in their car after Ferguson. This was near the beginning of Oberbürgermeister Deblasio’s reign and it was becoming apparent what he thought of NYC’s “Finest”. At their funeral the entire force turned their back on him. Fun times.

    • Chafed

      That’s a tween. Look at his shoulder height relative to the car door.

  35. Festus' Mustache

    To anyone still listening, I am indeed fine. Regarding my comments on the over night thread yesterday, yes I do have a depressive disorder that I’ve been struggling with since I was 9 years old. I had two instances wherein I tried to end my own life but none since I was 21 years old. I’m naturally dolorous and easily hurt. I can be easily tipped into self destructive behavior. All I want to do is skip merrily along through life but once in awhile the Black Dog starts nipping at my heels. I am so sorry if my comments caused my Friends here any distress. You people mean the world to me.

    • salted earth

      Hey Festus. I’m glad you are around.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Thank you, Friend. Likewise I’m sure! I can get a little too “dramatic” for my own good once in awhile. I sometimes question my life’s worth in more stringent terms than need be.

      • salted earth

        So I don’t need to offer to have your baby?

      • Festus' Mustache

        *raised triple eyebrow*

    • Chafed

      That did concern me. Glad to know you are okay.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Thanks Chafed! You were in my corner through a bad patch last year and I’ll never forget that kindness.

    • Akira

      Hey bruh, glad you’re here with us.

      I get that kind of crap going on in my mind too. Reading Stoic philosophy has helped me a ton (Seneca, Marcus Aurelius, and now Epictetus).

      Also read a book called “12 Rules for Life” by some hardcore alt-right neo-Nazi from Canada that was quite beneficial to me.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Much appreciated! I feel better now. It all just seems like a fucking chore sometimes. Your kind words are a help.

      • Lackadaisical

        Definitely get the idea of living being a bit of a chore- I get bored of eating sometimes. Like I could be hungry, and it is just a chore to actually go through the motions of eating. Could be delicious food and everything- it’s like peak first world problems, but I can’t help it.

      • Lackadaisical

        Heh, I almost said the same thing about the Stoics. Big Kermit fan too, though I haven’t gotten 12 rules yet.

    • Lackadaisical

      I have a very similar temperament. Best of luck…

    • Gender Traitor

      ?

  36. Suthenboy

    I go to bed early and so I missed the discussion last night, regrettably.

    Re: Derpetologist’s discussion of Herbert’s interpretation of law.

    Believing that the meaning of law is flexible is a simple and very common mistake. (Hat tip to Heroic) Words do not have meanings. Meanings have words. It is impossible to overstate the importance of this distinction.

    I am an originalist in that the words of the law are meant to convey a particular meaning. It is mendacious to take those words and hang them on meanings that they were not meant to convey. Going down that road leads one to “…that depends on the the meaning of ‘is’ is. ”
    This is where science has something to teach us. One does not start with a preconceived, desired conclusion then construct a pretzelly narrative leading to that conclusion. Doing so is the height of dishonesty even if one is not aware they are doing so.
    Despite one’s ability to garble the language the ideas behind the words in the bill of rights are fixed. “Shall make no law” are words meant to convey a particular meaning and any honest, sensible person knows what that meaning is.
    This highlights the importance of the premise of natural rights and is the primary cause of the schist in our country today.

    Ideas matter.

  37. Sean

    Keto pancakes make an excellent delivery system for Kerrygold butter.

    Mmmmmmm. Plus some blueberries.

    • Suthenboy

      Our summer huckleberries….well, just try some and you will never touch a blanched, tasteless blueberry again.

      • Sean

        I don’t think I’ve every had huckleberries before.

      • Sean

        *ever

      • Tundra

        I was in Maine in July and picking the blueberries along the hikes was awesome!

        Tart and tasty!

      • Gender Traitor

        Hmmm… May I safely assume this can also be used for waffles?

      • Sean

        I make my keto waffles from scratch, but you can safely assume with this stuff.

      • Suthenboy

        Mrs. Suthenboy makes pancakes with finely ground oat powder mixed in cottage cheese. I dont know the exact recipe but they are damned good and taste just like pancakes.

        She just walked in….let me ask

        2 cups cottage cheese
        1/4 cup oat powder….oatmeal ground up in a ninja or other type blender
        3 eggs
        2tble oil
        sweetener and cinnamon optional – she uses Splenda and cinnamon
        takes longer than regular pancakes to cook.

        I use lots of butter and maple syrup
        These are quite good and dont give you that bloated/ I ate too much feeling that flour pancakes are prone to give you.

    • Tundra

      Coffee makes an excellent delivery system for MCTs 😉

      • Sean

        One spoonful of coconut oil for me and one for my coffee.