I wanted to talk about this courageous act of free expression.  Are we talking about this?  Well, no.  In my defense however, it was you—yes YOU, that brought something else up.

Not my fault!

This is my review of Black Plague Brewing Silo Surfer Lager:

Given the movie that has once again instigated cries from moral busybodies to cancel Netflix over Dave Chapelle Cuties, a French film featuring prepubescent girls doing things (hopefully) nobody wants to see them do.  It even prompted some clown (TW:  Tom Cotton) in Congress to suggest this is an outrage, and it must be against the law(!).  Like the last time Netflix made something available that pissed everyone off, I decided that I needed to find out for myself what it was all about, and not give an opinion until I watched it.

Well…I will admit I chickened out.  So I got the opinion of somebody I can trust to review it for me—from the quill of our very own, Sugarfree:

Cuties real crime is being boring.

It hit every predictable note of the young girl coming of age story: Misunderstandings about sex, mean girls, social cliques, period panic, catfights, humiliation. It just has some Islam-flavored “immigrant experience” sprinkles on top and dirty dancing. I can’t imagine why any non-pedophiles would want to watch it.

Do they not have mops in France?.

There was some questionable sex stuff, but not that weird in modern cinema. A breast is flashed in a online video, the age of the girl is unclear, but all the girls in the video are older than the “Cuties.” The main character takes a picture of her crotch and posts it online (we don’t see anything) and there is the final dance scene, which is pretty gross and probably shocking—crotch-rubbing, ass-rubbing, butthole-rubbing, rubbing each others crotches and asses, twerking in other girl’s faces.

But all of this is presented as bad things. The audience at the final dance is appalled, the mother tries to have an iman give the main girl an exorcism after the crotch shot (and basically he says she’s not possessed, just an asshole.)

None of the girls are native French, but there is almost no discussion about race or nationality.

It is not suggested anywhere that the strikingly ugly blonde girl was born a boy or is even considered ugly, she is close to being the alpha bitch of the pack. She looks to be Eastern European and maybe suffering from an early babuska outbreak. But they do nothing make-up wise to off-set her apeface and piggy little eyes and because of some plague-level acne they bury her in layers of foundation which give her face that dead-expression mask look.

Emphasis mine. That all sounds terrible.  Thanks Sugarfree!

The complaints the girls were somehow exploited are a bit dubious; while they cannot consent as children, it is reasonable to believe they have parents/guardians that consented on behalf of these girls.  While I might have a daughter of my own that age and I certainly would not consent to her twerking in another girl’s face for money, what business of mine is it to tell somebody else they can’t allow that?  None of those girls are my children, and they are apparently child actors that received a form of renumeration.  Unless some evidence of abuse or exploitation is presented, I am stuck shaking my head within my slightly practicing Catholic bubble and concluding it all sounds disgusting.  The choice is on the consumer to watch it; if this is offensive then simply don’t watch.

Neither should legal action be taken against outlets willing to present the film.  Speech covers a variety of mediums, and too often it is the most vile, unpopular viewpoints that need to be defended the most.  The world is often vile, and people that cannot be exposed to what offends them without resorting to calls to silence unpopular opinions does not make this vileness go away.  If one cannot be exposed to something they find immoral, even through a medium as indirect as film, perhaps their moral sensibilities are on more fragile grounds than they think.

At any rate this movie sounds rather tame when compared to movie from the 90’s called, Kids. Where a group of teenagers engage in drinking, sex, illicit drugs, violent homophobia, and even ends in a extremely graphic portrayal of date rape.  Graphic enough the scene will probably violate YouTube rules.  Like Cuties, the behaviors portrayed in this film were also intended to portray all of this as a bad thing.

 

I was in CA a few weeks ago so I was happy to find this on the bottom self of a cooler with a dozen IPA varieties.  Its a Pilsner done reasonably well, and has pretty good body with a clean finish.  I thought the plague mask was appropriate for the times. Black Plague Brewing Silo Surfer Lager:  3/5

 

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291 Comments

  1. Spudalicious

    SugarFree said it best.

    • LCDR_Fish

      If you want to hear a 20 min discussion, I recommend the YT vid by Just Some Guy.

      • Count Potato

        SomeBlackGuy did one too. So did Shoe, and Dankula.

      • cyto

        ShoeOnHead came up in my feed as a recommendation for this. I watched – she was actually pretty entertaining. The look on her face when she realized that she had been ogling an 11 year old child’s boobs is priceless.

    • Aloysious

      Agreed.

      I tried to watch it, but spent 99% of the time on FF. Aside from the dancing, which was of questionable taste , I just don’t see why anyone would care.

  2. straffinrun

    Imagine peeling an onion and every layer exposes more of an 11 year old’s body. How far you gonna peel?

    • Gustave Lytton

      I hate to think what your scallions are like.

    • Tulip

      If I was peeling an onion that exposed an 11 yr olds body, I would drop the onion and run away screaming

    • Cancelled

      Oh, now I understand why OMWC is vegetarian.

  3. The Gunslinger

    Sorry for going off topic right away but how about that Tadej Pogacar!!! Wow 21 years old.

    • PieInTheSky

      what the hell is a Tadej Pogacar?

      • The Gunslinger

        A Slovenian wunderkind on a bike.

      • PieInTheSky

        what % of his blood is performance enhancers?

      • The Gunslinger

        Just enough apparently

    • KibbledKristen

      Spoilers!! GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

      I will keel you now.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Normally time trials are boring, but damn that was exciting. I feel bad for Roglic. He didn’t ride that bad. Pogacar was just out of his mind.

  4. The Gunslinger

    Don’t have Netflix and no desire to see Cuties.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Me neither. Netflix has Cobra Kai now.

      Johnny Lawrence is the hero America needs.

      • Mojeaux

        I regret not watching Season 2 when it was on YouTube Red. No chance of getting Netflix.

      • BakedPenguin

        Sweep the leg!

  5. BakedPenguin

    I forget what movie I was discussing (thirty years ago or so), but it was similar to Kids – I was impressed how they got credit for social commentary while still presenting prurient interests.

    I think that’s what the filmmakers of Cuties were trying to do. Tough luck.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Its a difficult line to tread.

  6. Count Potato

    I think there are four issues here:

    1) Using actual 11-year-old girls was wrong. What kind of parents would let them do this? What happens when they grow up? If this were a book or an anime I don’t think there would be an issue.

    2) It was marketed as softcore pedo shit. The poster was in very bad taste. Even the names “Cuties” sounds more like the title of a porno than serious social commentary.

    3) Freedom of speech works both ways. People are free to say it’s awful and announce they cancelled their Netflix subscriptions. It’s freedom of speech, not freedom of consequences (the same goes for the latest JK Rowling drama).

    4) Much of the public discourse was was hyperbolic contrarianism. People on the right were the first to condemn it, so the left full retard defending it.

    • straffinrun

      5) which may be included under your 2): show kids humping the floor is fucking crazy. Leave kids out of this stuff. Of course there are standards (nobody would defend full nudity for example) and I draw my line at this. YMMV.

      • Drake

        I believe there were topless 11 year-old girls in the movie.

      • Lackadaisical

        That is what ShoeOnHead says, seems to contradict SF per above, but he is kind of vague.

        I find it interesting how quickly the lefty media outlets circled the wagons though.

      • cyto

        ShoeOnHead thought it was an adult at the time. The Media Matters review says it is a kid.

        Cyto says “did not watch. won’t watch just to find out”.

      • Count Potato

        From the stuff I read and the YouTube commentary videos I watched, the cinematography often unnecessarily explicit — focusing on their butts, crotches, etc.

      • Ted S.

        +1 Roger Vadim.

        I recently watched Pretty Maids All in a Row which is certainly interesting.

    • hayeksplosives

      Lol.

      One “Harris Administration”, coming right up.

    • cyto

      Why is this not common knowledge? How is this not discussed on the talking head shows all the time? Not this stark, comedic version, but the overall complete reversal on every position.

      • Francisco d'Anconia

        How would that help get rid of Trump?

      • cyto

        Oh, yeah…. I forgot.

  7. Rebel Scum

    *spits out coffee beer*

    Clinton said, “The Democrats who are in the Senate will have to use every single possible maneuver that is available to them to make it clear that they are not going to permit Mitch McConnell to enact the greatest travesty, a monument to hypocrisy that would arise from him attempting to fill this position. So, in many ways, it is a terrible loss for us all. It is a reminder that she stood on the side of moving us towards a perfect union and underscoring equality and not just for women but for every American and I don’t want to see that legacy ripped up by political hypocrisy coming from Mitch McConnell.”

    She continued, “Mitch McConnell cares about nothing else but power, of course, he’s going to do everything he can to fill that seat. I think there are three possible approaches that should be considered. I think there will be at least one or may be more Republican senators who either from principles or conscious or political calculation find the hypocrisy to be more than they can bear. It is reported, and I don’t know if it is actually accurate yet, but it has been reported that at least one senator has said just that, fair is fair. I think to me if we have any hope of overcoming the divisiveness and atmosphere that currently infect our politics and, unfortunately, has riddle our institutions like the Senate with this kind of, you know, power over everything else, mentality. I hope that there will be several Republican senators who say we are going to wait to see what happens with the election. It will be up to whoever is president on January 20th. The second thing is there are senators running for officer right now who are in, who are Republicans and who are closed or contested seats, and their Democratic opponents, as well as the people and the press in their state, needs to make this a major issue. Are they going to totally demonstrate themselves as being without a shred of principle because they went along with McConnell in refusing to move forward, President Obama’s nomination? Are they going to apply a totally double standard? Make it a political issue.”

    Is this bitch serious?

    • Drake

      As serious as a Russia reset button.

    • kbolino

      It is not hypocrisy. Obama did not obtain the advice and consent of the Senate. That is the requirement to get an appointee confirmed.

  8. Drake

    Not a big fan of state regulated entertainment. But a nation that doesn’t protect it’s children is worthless. One of those unpleasant aspects of living in a decadent crumbling empire.

    • Francisco d'Anconia

      a nation that doesn’t protect it’s children

      ??????

      Most children aren’t allowed outside unsupervised.

      • PieInTheSky

        he is talking about the orphans in his mines.

      • Lackadaisical

        Also, it is set in France… right?

      • kbolino

        Well “decadent crumbling empire” is not exactly inapplicable to France, either.

      • Drake

        Maybe “crumbled”.

      • Ted S.

        I figured the question marks were for Drake’s use of “it is”.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      But a nation that doesn’t protect it’s children is worthless

      Children’s exposure to “the nation” is more harmful when you consider the results of public schools (just one example). I’d prefer personal responsibility be the norm in that respect.

  9. LCDR_Fish

    Sooo, been trying to play Fallout 4 on Xbox one since Labor Day. Got a good chunk of time into the last few weekends then wham – starting last Sun and then again last night- constant crashes requiring xbox reboots. Think I had 4 over the course of an hour yesterday. Just when opening menus or even moving normally. I’m about to scratch this completely. Not sure if erasing everything and then reinstalling the game (without the addons – its the GOTY edition) would improve the experience at all….

    I’ve already erased half my save games.

    • Lackadaisical

      You probably got the ‘vid from work and your Xbox is now terminal.

      Sorry to hear of your inevitable demise from the kung flu, I will be praying for your soul.

  10. westernsloper

    While I find the idea of 11 year old girls dancing like strippers to be a bit disturbing and as much as I tried since i thrive on outrage, I could not muster a great amount of outrage about this. I am too pissed off about all the other stuff going on in the world that directly affects me. It appears my once thought unlimited outrage indeed has limits. I JDGAF about Cuties.

    The complaints the girls were somehow exploited are a bit dubious; while they cannot consent as children, it is reasonable to believe they have parents/guardians that consented on behalf of these girls.

    That could be the reason but was unable to articulate about my lack of outrage. (thanks MS) There are shitty parents all around the world.

  11. Rebel Scum

    Blue checkmark.

    Reza Aslan
    @rezaaslan

    If they even TRY to replace RBG we burn the entire fucking thing down.

    • Lackadaisical

      Not surprising coming from a cannibal.

      A bit down from there I saw that socialist bae from Hawaii was sponsoring a bill to ban ballot harvesting. Hawt.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Tulsi?

  12. Brochettaward

    Cuties is that thing that any moron can form a quick opinion on in a few seconds with no real deep thought required. And they can spew that opinion far and wide while acting holier than thou.

    I don’t care about your opinion of Cuties.

  13. hayeksplosives

    I don’t want to watch cuties, and I think there will be psychological harm to these kids, but that is tough to prove, and to be perfectly frank any kid whose parent or guardian lets the kid do this kind of “work” is probably doomed to psychological harm anyway.

    I am going to cancel Netflix. I am tired of their suggestions of what I should see (especially during the BLM peak derp earlier), and tired of the global warming agenda and the Obama worship.

    So now is as good a time as any.

    • hayeksplosives

      But no, crappy movies made in poor taste should not be outlawed.

    • Old Man With Candy

      When Netflix paid the Obamas their millions, and simultaneously raised their rates, SP cut them off like a foreskin at a cocaine-fueled bris.

      • Mojeaux

        I’d try Netflix again just to watch Cobra Kai, but we simply can’t afford to keep it.

      • hayeksplosives

        Cancellation complete. Amazon Prime has plenty, and I read more than I watch.

        Although I must fess up to binge watching all of Season 1 of the Boys.

      • Mojeaux

        Well, hurry up and binge season 2 so we can dish.

      • cyto

        Seriously… .hayeksplosives didn’t watch The Boys? I have to re-do my world model to allow for that….

    • Ted S.

      If they really wanted to push the boundaries, they would have shown the girls enjoying the post-coital cigarette.

  14. PieInTheSky

    this was probably cover ad nauseam but there is a big issue with movies portraying teenagers dong this shit and 10-11 year old. the movie Thirteen was also pretty shocking but still post puberty. But yes the outrage is probably exaggerated.

    • PieInTheSky

      No I will not be watching because it does not seem like the kind of thing I’d want to watch.

  15. PieInTheSky

    Black Plague Brewing Silo Surfer Lager – this name is trying too hard

  16. DWB

    After Oktoberfest season (my favorite beer,) I’m going to go easy on the beer to try and get rid on the belly. I never really got into the Hurricane but this recipe is pretty good:

    Ice
    1 tablespoon lime juice (1/2 a lime)
    2 ounces light rum
    2 ounces dark rum
    2 ounces passion fruit juice
    1 ounce orange juice
    1 tablespoon simple syrup
    1 tablespoon grenadine
    Garnish: orange slice
    Garnish: maraschino cherry

    • PieInTheSky

      what on earth makes you think that will be better for the belly than beer?

      • DWB

        I would drink a WHOLE lot less of those than beer …

      • Rebel Scum

        Fewer carbs?

      • PieInTheSky

        how?

      • DWB

        I lost my sweet tooth a long time ago; my doc said get rid of the carbs …. taking most of them out of my diet

      • PieInTheSky

        my doc said get rid of the carbs – weird. most doctors are high carb low fat

      • Mojeaux

        They are slowly coming around because their patients are getting good results, but they’ll never admit they know bupkis about nutrition.

      • DWB

        That sounds healthier than throwing some vodka into a Sonic cherry limeade (my wife uses either stevia or monk fruit sugar to control her ADHD.)

      • PieInTheSky

        Three fingers – width or length?

      • PieInTheSky

        When we were kids the adults were drinking on the porch and my uncle gave my young cousin his glass and asked her to go inside the house and pour him a finger of whiskey. He got a lot more than expected

      • Sean

        Heh.

      • Francisco d'Anconia

        I got one of those from my secret Santa two years ago

      • Sean

        The bullets eventually come out. Cyanoacrylite will resecure them.

      • Francisco d'Anconia

        Mine’s decorative. I don’t want space inside my glass taken by anything but bourbon.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Isnt the bullet technically outside the glass?

      • Sean

        Very much outside the glass. No worries about the repairs. The bullet is tipped with some sort of resin that only fits properly one way into the indent.

      • Francisco d'Anconia

        It’s taking up space inside the glass

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Sounds very sweet, but yummy.

      • DWB

        Halving the OJ and Passion Fruit makes a less sweet drink

    • Sean

      I got diabetes reading that post.

    • westernsloper

      Holy sugar coma batman……………..Tequila, soda, and lime is my thing these days. Unless I am BBQ’ing. Then I have to have a beer. It is the law.

  17. PieInTheSky

    I am enjoying a Port Charlotte 10. Different than other islay stuff, but then they are all different to each other.

    Sweet quite salty oak peat spice citrus.

    • PieInTheSky

      nice aftertaste but can’t place the flavor

      • PieInTheSky

        could be green tee

    • PieInTheSky

      also something minty I would say

    • Not Adahn

      I remember liking that more than most Brownladdies.

      • PieInTheSky

        I like octomore but not for the price.

        I liked their whiskeys a lot more straight from the barrel especially the 22 year old port Charlotte

      • Not Adahn

        I won’t be buying any more Scotch until the border gets opened back up. The tarriffs are just stupid. Fortunately, I’ve got about six liters left between the various bottles in the collection, plus plenty of rye.

  18. PieInTheSky

    I lost my habit for driving long distances in the city. My mom had a car accident and in idiotic police fashion, they could not give her the accident report on the spot. She had to get it the next day. Not having a car I drove to the suburbs picked her up then to the single police station handling this literally on the other side of the city back to her place than back to my place. 80 kilometers. being Saturday not huge traffic but plenty i n Bucharest and all the traffic lights none synchronized and that shit… tired me out. Driving outside the city is less frustrating.

  19. Sean

    “Well, no. In my defense however, it was you—yes YOU, that brought something else up.”

    ?

    • mexican sharpshooter

      He did it!

  20. egould310

    Sipping a Smirnoff and pomegranate/raspberry kombucha over ice. The AQI in Seattle is “Good”. Ran seven miles this morning. Got the windows in my apartment open. This is a good thing.

    • PieInTheSky

      why can’t you people drink scotch like a normal person?

      • egould310

        The wife and I drank some different scotches two weeks ago at this place https://yelp.to/qTKq/xiJLtSSFU9

        I don’t remember the names of what we tried. But they were good. One was almost like American bourbon, but still scotch. I was actually thinking about you when I was drinking scotch, and thought “I should make notes for Pie”. But I was drinking and then thought, naaaahhhhh. 🙂

  21. Stinky Wizzleteats

    I see Cuties is the hot topic again. For those interested in a pretty detailed breakdown of the content without having to have it on your watch history, Lions of Liberty watched it so you don’t have to:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tMalEgovtyw

  22. Brochettaward

    Amy Coney Barrett is apparently the leader for the nomination.

    This nomination is going to guarantee the Dems pack the court the next chance they get, and the Republicans may not even be able to ram their pick through because you know there will be a few cuck defections. Murkowski already said Friday that she wouldn’t vote for a pick.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      The Democrats have agitating for packing the court ever since Gorsuch was nominated so this is nothing new. The Republicans being timid in the hopes of reciprocity from the Dems would be a bad move but you are right about it making future attempted court packing almost certain.

      • kbolino

        How anyone can walk away from what happened to Kavanaugh and think “these are the sort of people whose opinions I need to respect” is beyond me.

    • Ownbestenemy

      The democratic talking point about “new president installed” is worrisome.

      • Brochettaward

        That is apparently the term Ginsburg used with her dying wish. She wanted her replacement chosen when the next president was installed.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Scares me even more since she was a SCOTUS justice

  23. Rhywun

    crotch-rubbing, ass-rubbing, butthole-rubbing, rubbing each others crotches and asses, twerking in other girl’s faces

    TAKE MY MONEY

  24. westernsloper

    I stopped by my chili dealers place today. He had just sold his last six boxes to the dude before me. Who buys six boxes? Chili hoarder. He said they were headed out to pick soon so come back later. Tomorrow I should have chili’s in my freshly cleaned out freezer.

    • PieInTheSky

      I am uncertain which drug chili is slang for

      • westernsloper

        Green chili’s are their own drug.

      • Sean

        Capsaicin is a helluva drug.

  25. PieInTheSky

    Speaking of beer, of the American Stone beer in the supermarket, there were 3 IPAs. Stone IPA, Stone Delicious IPA, and the Neverending haze.

    The Stone IPA is much more bitter than the others. I like it cause I like bitter but overall there is not enough flavor to stand up the the bitterness. The flavor is good but the bitterness dominates.

  26. Ownbestenemy

    Brisket is thawed. Now to decide if I am going to separate the flat and point or smoke it whole. Decisions decisions.

    • PieInTheSky

      smoked meat is carcinogenic. Throw the brisket away and eat some tofu.

      • Ownbestenemy

        You shut your whore mouth boy!

      • Brochettaward

        Tofu will give you the breast cancer.

      • Spudalicious

        Tofu will give your cancer breasts.

    • Spudalicious

      Smoke the point, corn the flat.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Im intrigued or scared. Not sure which.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Which I do have some pickling spice and I could do.

    • egould310

      The good news is that there is no wrong choice there. Have fun with meat!

      I’ll be poaching a big coho salmon fillet in white wine and butter with fresh dill and shallots. Asparagus and hollandaise.

      • Brochettaward

        A lot of gay men eat fish.

      • PieInTheSky

        Dwayne Johnson eats fish. You say that to his face

      • Brochettaward

        I’m not saying eating fish makes you gay. But I can’t disprove the theory, either.

      • egould310

        Your schtick is getting tiresome.

      • Brochettaward

        The people complaining about things being tiresome are tiresome.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        when you reply to him, it fucks up the nice tidy row of muted comments on my feed.

      • egould310

        Yeah. I should have known better. I regret acknowledging it.

      • Rebel Scum

        Only eating fishsticks is gay. Ask Kanye.

      • Mojeaux

        Salmon and Hollandaise… *drool*

      • Rebel Scum

        I do salmon with lemonpepper dry rub usually. Cast iron skillet seared* or planked on the grill.

        *Sear the non skin side and finish on the non-skin side.

      • BakedPenguin

        When I was 18, one of the restaurants I worked at doing dishes at was an upscale French place. I wasn’t (and amn’t) a big fan of fish, but I figured a (then $25 / now -$55) lunch entree would be pretty good. It was. I almost doubled my part-time salary by getting an entree there a day.

    • Sean

      Prime strips were on sale today. I got a two of them and two generous cut bone in ribeyes.

      The ribeyes came in at 2.75 lbs. Gonna be some good eats tomorrow.

      You gonna make some burnt ends with that brisket?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yes I am.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Asked one of the teens if they wanted pastrami out of this hunk of meat and he said…I want ribs.

      • Lackadaisical

        When should I arrive for dinner?

      • Sean

        Steaks are for tomorrow. Tonight we’re going out for prime rib. Reservations are set for indoor dining.

    • westernsloper

      I usually go with separate, sous vide, then smoke. But I haven’t bought a whole packer in a long time. Hell, I haven’t bought any brisket in a long time. Prices are nuts locally and I haven’t been to the big city in awhile.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I bought this one because it was in my “we must have 100lbs of meat in the freezer at all times” phase of the shutdowns.

      • Mojeaux

        We had that and we are still well stocked.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Same here, just cycling out some protein

  27. Not Adahn

    My diner was celebrating the holiday with latkes.

    Which they were selling in a special with eggs, bacon and sausage.

    Unfortunately, I slept in really late and they were sold out of latkes by the time I got there. It must be fall since they also had pumpkin pancakes on the menu. They had a particularly yummy Eggs Benedict variant: substitute garlic toast for the English muffin, prosciutto for the Canadian bacon, and add a drizzle of pesto and lots of shaved parm.

    • westernsloper

      They had a particularly yummy Eggs Benedict variant: substitute garlic toast for the English muffin, prosciutto for the Canadian bacon, and add a drizzle of pesto and lots of shaved parm.

      Now you’re talking. That sounds great.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      treyf!

    • Lackadaisical

      , bacon

      😀

      I actually do like latkes, despite not being one of (((them))).

      • Lackadaisical

        Huh… though I do dislike bacon* and am really cheap… maybe I am (((secretly)))?

        *for the children, I will leave off my other qualifying ttributes

  28. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    Unless some evidence of abuse or exploitation is presented

    That’s the point of contention, yes? Some would say that this is per se abuse/exploitation. Everybody has a line in the sand where they think an 11 year old is being exploited/abused, and I’m guessing almost everybody draws their line well before the 11 year old’s giblets are bared on screen.

    That said, I don’t really care. I don’t know any of these people and I have no interest in sticking my nose into it. It was a convenient excuse for my wife to join me in the “don’t need Netflix anymore” camp, and we canceled our Netflix. I guess cuties was technically the straw that broke the camel’s back, but the only show I watched on Netflix in the last months was Gundam Unicorn. We canceled because all the good content is elsewhere, and the replacement content is garbage.

    • Brochettaward

      Netflix intentionally played up the sexualized 11 year olds in their marketing. They were courting controversy to sell the movie. I have heard a number of people say they cancelled Netflix over Cuties. I just don’t get why they thought this was worth it. It has people talking and led to more eyeballs for a little while, but that can’t be worth trashing your brand. This isn’t a right or left thing, despite the media trying to paint it that way. Normal audiences of all political persuasions are disgusted by the idea of Cuties.

      They aren’t a studio. They are a subscription service. Somehow they lost sight of that in trying to sell one single obscure movie.

      • Mojeaux

        In the end, I don’t think they’ll correlate lost revenue to Cuties, or they’ll just ignore it, just like the rest of the Woke companies whose earnings may (or may not) dip when they go woke.

    • Francisco d'Anconia

      THAT SHIT AIN’T FUNNY!

      (But I laughed anyway)

  29. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I’m amazed at the caterwauling on the left over Ginsberg.

    It’s like their prophet died.

    It’s fucking weird.

    • Ownbestenemy

      They set down a weird path in ’16 and has led them to this point in time.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        They’re consoling each other on Facebook like they lost a family member.

        It appears they have an emotional need to impose their views.

    • Cancelled

      When you tie your happiness to the continued survival of an 87 year old with cancer you have made an error.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That’s just it. They should have been pissed she didn’t retire during Obama’s tenure.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Most of them are still in the denial stage.

      • BakedPenguin

        What Cancelled said. “Don’t hold your breath.”

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Prophet seems too understated. Messiah might be going too far. What’s in between?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I don’t know. But if you take these idiots at their word, they’re losing sleep over it, biting their nails, etc… Not my words, theirs.

      • Sean

        Saint?

      • Mad Scientist

        Royalty.

      • Mojeaux

        Oracle — seems a bit above prophet.

      • Lackadaisical

        Grand Mufti? Demigod?

    • Brochettaward

      Just imagine what it’s going to be like when The Lightbringer dies.

      • Lackadaisical

        The hagiography will be off the charts.

    • Hyperion

      It’s a cult.

  30. westernsloper

    Let’s have something salty.

      • westernsloper

        Good song but lacks anything maritime so is not allowed in a salty thread. Go to the box and feel shame.

      • BakedPenguin

        Is Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald sufficiently maritime?

        Wait, why’m I askin’ you? You’re about as far from navigable bodies as can be found on this continent.

      • westernsloper

        Yes, uber salty.

        You’re about as far from navigable bodies as can be found on this continent.

        Everybody makes mistakes.

  31. DEG

    Its a Pilsner done reasonably well, and has pretty good body with a clean finish. I thought the plague mask was appropriate for the times.

    I approve of the Plague Doctor Mask.

    • Francisco d'Anconia
    • Francisco d'Anconia

      And let’s not forget her Calvins

  32. cyto

    On the 11 year old kid thing…

    There was a really good (and disturbing) frontline documentary about the gonorrhea outbreak at a suburban Atlanta middle school. About 1/3 of the kids got it.

    Frontline interviewed some of the kids. It turns out, they were having after-school sex parties. School was out by 2 or 3, so they had until their two income parents got home at 6 or 7 to party at a friend’s house.

    There were 3 little girls in particular… they were interviewed on one of the girl’s beds. It was a standard kid bed, white, unadorned wall behind with some pencil marks, piles of stuffed animals…. and 3 little girls that looked like little girls. These were 12 year old kids. Some 12 year old girls look like they are 16. These were not those girls. These were the “could be in elementary school” 12 year old girls.

    They talked about their experience at sex parties in the starkest terms, very matter of fact. “Lisa does anal… I don’t like to do anal because it hurts, but Lisa is good at it.”

    At one point they ask one of the girls if she regrets doing all of that. She gets reflective for a moment.. and says “yeah.. I kind of wish I had waited until I was older and more mature. I wasn’t ready when I was 11. Not like I am now.”

    • Lackadaisical

      Not sure what you’re gettign at, but yeah, I knew a classmate who was ‘with’ a 21-year old when we were in 7th grade. Luckily mom got her birth control.

      • cyto

        I’m not sure either. This was 20 years ago.

        https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/georgia/

        Middle to upper class families.

        Maybe some context for exploiting kids. Maybe context for films that want to point out problems with sexualizing kids.

        I dunno… just basic background knowledge on the subject, I guess.

    • DWB

      External laws cannot fix things, but an inner moral compass is not standard factory issue anymore?

      Did we outsource to public schools a child’s moral training? They seem to be doing as poor a job as teaching kids to read and write …

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Did we outsource to public schools a child’s moral training?

        Yes, yes we did. Here’s the thing, though. It’s not just the latch key kids who are being morally “trained” by the state. It impacts every single kid in that system. It takes a hell of a lot of deprogramming and a decent amount of luck if you want to build in your kids a moral compass that is different from modern popular culture.

      • DWB

        My wife is a 3rd grade teacher and she has recently found that she has to stop and explain to some students WHY it is wrong to take something that belongs others. The very basic BASICS of private property and respect for the rights of others is lacking. Without these, I do not see how we survive as a free society.

  33. The Hyperbole

    Shoot, I just realized I cancelled Netflix a few weeks ago, not because of Cuties but because I wasn’t watching it, but my cancellation may be misunderstood. Now I have to re-subscribe and then cancel after the outrage dies down. Man these culture wars take a lot of effort.

    • Mad Scientist

      The controversy over whether pineapple belongs on pizza is more interesting than this topic. When Netflix takes a stand on that, I’ll cancel my subscription.

      • cyto

        Well, pro or anti Hawaiian pizza, you can still enjoy a slice. I don’t think the same thing is true of closeups of an 11 year old girl’s crotch.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Just use a cousin’s account like I do.

    • westernsloper

      I cancelled when they took on the grifters.

      • Brochettaward

        I have opposed Netflix since the whole Net Neutrality thing.

    • hayeksplosives

      Just tweet a hashtag of support. That earns virtue points with a minimum of effort.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Man these culture wars take a lot of effort.

      Last time I bought a pair of shoes, I looked through reddit to determine if wearing Adidas Sambas was somehow a social signal.

      • Brochettaward

        Adidas Sambas? You need a gay friend to just tell you no sometimes.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        He told me it was fine.

      • Brochettaward

        He is mocking you behind your back.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Give the friend in question is Sloopy, I assure you he is mocking me as we speak.

    • grrizzly

      I actually subscribed to Netflix a week ago: need some 4k content to watch on a new TV. I have to admit I don’t care about the Cuties controversy. Guess my attitude is too European.

  34. hayeksplosives

    I usually don’t binge watch anything, and my taste in TV tends to be pretty Light hearted and tame: 30 Rock, Arrested Development, Just Shoot Me, Parks and Rec, Psych, Burn Notice.

    But I watched all of The Boys season 1 and now I’m debating whether to take on Season 2. Might be worth it just to see Karl Urban.

    I wonder how many people recognized the speech that Homelander gave on the shore where airplane wreckage washed up? Word for word.

    • Brochettaward

      The Boys thinks it’s smarter than it is. I don’t care about comic book movies or some realistic depiction of them. They actually do a pretty decent job of critiquing corporate woke culture, though. Season 2 is more interesting in that regard.

      • cyto

        The after show really wrecks this. They are transgressive for the sake of being transgressive… so you kind of expect a lot of the stuff that goes along with that, like a basic libertarian bent, like Trey and Matt. Nope. Solid woke.

      • Mojeaux

        The after show really wrecks this.

        Can confirm. I saw 2 and I was done with that.

      • Charlie Suet

        There’s a good argument for never listening to what politically motivated creators say their work is about. I think Terry Gilliam once claimed that Brazil is about the dangers of capitalism (I might be misremembering). This is clearly nonsense and you can enjoy the film more by ignoring him. I read that the Boys showrunner was a prog and I have no trouble ignoring the after show as a result.

        My main disagreement with the woke is not that white supremacists, arrogant men etc. don’t exist, it’s that it’s not meaningful or reasonable or insightful to collectivise those characteristics to all white people or whoever.

        So long as they don’t literally state their views as a manifesto I find I can mostly enjoy these sorts of things. Since progressivism is a proselytising religion that gets harder and harder though.

      • cyto

        Holy crap…. did Gilliam ever watch his movie?

    • Mojeaux

      I wonder how many people recognized the speech that Homelander gave on the shore where airplane wreckage washed up?

      I did not. Clue?

      • cyto

        yeah, I didn’t recognize it either…. was it a Bushism?

      • hayeksplosives

        When GW Bush visited Ground Zero very shortly after 9/11 and gave an unscripted speech through a megaphone. He was offering words of encouragement and thanks to the first responders, and someone in the crowd yells “We can’t hear you!” Bush replies “I can hear YOU! I can hear you! The rest of the world hears you. And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon.”

        In The Boys they substitute the plane crash for knocking these buildings down, but the idea is the same: use the fear of terrorism to justify overreach and expansion of government/corporate power.

      • cyto

        Except Bush didn’t literally smash the buildings himself.

        Dang, The Boys is dark. I had forgotten about that whole scene with the little girl on the plane. Homelander is one cold SOB.

      • Urthona

        The dude who plays Homelander is absolutely fucking fantastic.

      • hayeksplosives

        Dead thread, but yes I agree. He plays it very well, down to even the most subtle change in expression.

      • prolefeed

        He played a somewhat similar but more sympathetic antihero in Banshee. He’s an underrated actor IMO.

      • Urthona

        I mean it is a fair point. that event was used to seize power in real life.

    • cyto

      Season 1 was fantastic. Season 2 is not as good… largely because the greatest thing about season 1 was just the dystopian vision of a world where normal people have godlike abilities. They are not superior moral creatures like the Marvel universe… they are flawed and selfish creatures who take advantage of their abilities.

      Season 3 slows down the main narrative to introduce a new character and a new narrative with a new intrigue. It makes things much less satisfying… at least so far. I’m still on board, because any show that begins by showing a young loving couple deciding to move in together, only to have the woman splattered all over the street by a version of “the flash” … in an ooops moment….. that’s a show I’m going to have to watch, just on principle.

      • cyto

        Season 2 slows down…. not 3…. kids interrupted my thoughts…

        The big advantage of season 1 was just revealing the world.

      • prolefeed

        If your idea of “slowing down” is showing Homelander laser eye mowing down a huge crowd, then BDSM hate-fucking a sarcastic nihilistic neo-Nazi super-antihero, then you’re kinda jaded, sir.

      • Urthona

        I enjoy it just as much as ever.

      • cyto

        I can certainly see that perspective. They have not retconned the world or anything terrible like that.

        One big difference is that I binged season 1 in a weekend or so. Season 2 is a weekly release. I’m spoiled.

    • Urthona

      I love the Boys.

      • hayeksplosives

        I will probably keep going for at least a while..:

      • TARDis

        I don’t know where to drop this, but since this the latest comment….

        Isn’t Butcher just the unpowered asshole version of Homelander now?

      • Mojeaux

        Yes that’s the point.

      • prolefeed

        I think it may be inadvertantly making a libertarian point – the people who posture that they’re fighting The Man on our behalf would become just as evil if they got hold of the same power.

    • Lackadaisical

      “Our voters are so dumb they might put their ballots in a toilet by accident” -Dem Leadership

    • hoof_in_mouth

      This is literally 1/2 mile from my house. I had driven by a couple of times and rolled my eyes, had no further thoughts about it.

  35. Rebel Scum

    The cat just jumped into my lap and won’t leave me alone. She is being very kneedy.

    • hayeksplosives

      You are fortunate to belong to such a beneficent feline.

    • Mojeaux

      Purrfect.

      • TARDis

        Guest kitteh is leaving next week supposedly. 🙁

    • Drake

      Come on fat! He doesn’t have a spine!

  36. Rebel Scum

    Democracy dies when the president and senate do their jobs.

    “I understand why people say, ‘I don’t vote. What’s the point?’ I really empathize with it. I’m not here to dismiss you. I’m not here to pooh-pooh you. I’m not here to say you’re wrong or that you’re a bad person,” she said, proclaiming that voting is no longer about agreeing with Joe Biden (D) personally.

    “What I’m here to say is that this year, this election voting for someone — voting for Joe Biden is not about whether you agree with him. It’s a vote to let our democracy live another day,” she warned. “That’s what this is about” …

    “So listen. On the left, there’s a lot of–there’s a huge diversity, right? And we get mad at each other. That’s the way it is because it’s incredibly frustrating. I get incredibly frustrated. You all know I get incredibly frustrated with my own party, too. We all have our disagreements. That’s fine because we all recognize that November–frankly I wish it wasn’t like this; it only serves to highlight the brokenness of our entire system–but whether we like it or not, November’s about survival. November’s about survival.”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Think about that for a second. If you believe that it means that Kavanaugh and Gorsuch are actively undermining the American experiment.

    • Brochettaward

      Democracy is the left getting what it wants.

      • cyto

        Pretty much.

        They have been completely untethered from reality for the last several years.

        They keep pointing to things Trump says as evidence that he is a fascist dictator – like “that is fake news” – yet they have no qualms about actual authoritarian things their own team has done or plans to do. They militate in support of repealing the first amendment, and complain that Trump is a dictator who opposes free speech because he calls the press out for lying about him. It is just plain weird.

      • Suthenboy

        Back in the day we used to all shake our heads in disbelief at the nonsense that we heard from the Eastern Block. That is what it takes to run a totalitarian regime…subjects untethered from reality. It was the same shit then we are hearing now but back then we lied to ourselves by saying it could never happen here.

    • Suthenboy

      Survival? Since your policies are indistinguishable from those of the USSR I expect your chances of survival will also be indistinguishable from those of the USSR.

    • cyto

      Sheesh. You can’t go anywhere without QAnon conspiracy theorists popping up….

      Oooohhhhh…. now I get it! That explains the gaslighting…

      • cyto

        At the risk of ruining the joke… that article is really unfair. Random reality show guy who happens to support Biden is hardly a legitimate tie to the Biden campaign as a part of the “dude wants dick pics from 13 year old kid” story.

      • Rhywun

        It’s like reading CNN or something.

    • Suthenboy

      “What is with all pedos on the left?”

      If you appeal to the worst aspects of human nature what kind of people are you going to attract?

  37. Plinker762

    Disappointed, I thought this would be a Tracy Lords post.

    • Drake

      A topic we could all discuss knowledgeably.

    • cyto

      I’ve always found that to be an interesting case. They prosecuted the people who distributed and sold films she appeared in because they were child porn. People who had never met her, and who were provided with copies of her California Drivers license and US Passport that both listed her age as 20.

      Pretty tough way to get prosecuted as a child pornographer. I mean, there’s literally no way to avoid that crime if you are going to sell pornographic films made by other people. If the US government and the State of California can’t keep her age straight, I’m not sure how somebody who has a VHS box cover and a set of certification documents is supposed to be able to tell.

      • Rhywun

        I mean, there’s literally no way to avoid that crime if you are going to sell pornographic films made by other people.

        I’m sure that keeps lawmakers awake at night.

    • Raven Nation

      You’re welcome.

      • Plinker762

        No problem

  38. l0b0t

    Apropos of nothing, I’m sitting in a real bar. A bar that has been here since 1912. There are 3 other customers, all regulars. Bartender is taking wagers for Belmont Park horsey races. They are running a pool on the death of a string of last year’s Christmas lights. A hot Asian lady just came in and ordered a Negroni; it looked so yummy I added a Boulevardier to my 2 Obans and 2 Guiness. I love Shine’s Bar!

    • DEG

      I stopped by the local Irish pub for their “Halfway to St. Patrick’s Day” celebration. I wanted to sit at the bar. Bar already full thanks to Lil Rona Panic measures. I got a table inside because it was still a bit chilly. Unfortunately, it was underneath the speaker. Kinda loud. The staff seemed a bit overwhelmed. I ended up settling up after I had some food and some booze. Outside it had warmed up while I was inside and was fucking gorgeous. I picked up some crowlers at a nanobrewery and headed home. Now I’m heading out again. The staff at one of the local brewpubs, where I got dinner last night, convinced me to come back tonight. No live music tonight. We’ll see how busy it is.

    • BakedPenguin

      L0b0t – put $10 on the one going off @ 11/4.

    • egould310

      “ A hot Asian lady just came in and ordered a Negroni”

      Go get you some, l0b0t.

  39. Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

    I’m having a BBQ for my coworkers next week. I might have to buy some of this beer just for the name.

  40. Homple

    “The complaints the girls were somehow exploited are a bit dubious; while they cannot consent as children, it is reasonable to believe they have parents/guardians that consented on behalf of these girls.”

    The parents are complicit in the exploitation.

    • Suthenboy

      ‘Coming of age story…..’

      *Suthenboy falls asleep in his chair*

  41. hoof_in_mouth

    Regarding the movie, if it’s not illegal, then meh, illegal is already too tightly drawn. That said, since the standard of the day is deplatforming anything that is legal but icky, I don’t understand why this gets not just a pass but a defense and promotion, by the same people that are always going on about male gaze, toxic environment, etc. It is prurient with a laughable glaze of judgement as a cover.

    • Suthenboy

      I may have mentioned this before….

      If you think about the end being the dismantling of western, enlightened civilization everything the proggies/commies do makes perfect sense.
      BLM was stating explicitly that the destruction of the nuclear family is one of their core goals. I don’t know if they still are.

      Normalizing pedophilia and everything that moral people find repulsive is what they do. What is amazing to me are so many people voting for them instead of shooting them.

      • Rhywun

        BLM was stating explicitly that the destruction of the nuclear family is one of their core goals. I don’t know if they still are.

        Catch up: they’re teaching it in schools now. Check out some of the links for a good laugh/cry.

    • Spudalicious

      Let three abstain from voting and Pence can cast the tie breaker.

    • Rebel Scum

      Cunte.

    • Suthenboy

      This is the perfect opportunity for the Republicans to not miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. I expect them to step on their own dick #1,190,856

      Words cant describe how stupid it would be for them to drop the ball on this now.

      • prolefeed

        Collins is up for reelection in a blue-ish state where she could easily lose. So, this attempt at political survival is understandable.

        Mittens – is he also doing this? Because Utah isn’t in play at all.

  42. egould310

    Speaking of Netflix; wife and I have been watching “The Order”. Witches vs Werewolves vs Vampires type shit. But there is plenty of comedy, one liners, etc keeps it light. It’s pretty funny. Plus it’s fun to play “Canadian or Not-Canadian?”

    • Rhywun

      I’ll play: everyone you’ve never heard of is Canadian.

  43. Rebel Scum

    As postulated earlier.

    The two biggest changes regarding the Senate and judicial confirmations that have occurred in the last decade have come from Democrats.

    * Harry Reid changed the rules to allow a simple majority vote for Circuit Court nominees dealing out the minority.

    * Chuck Schumer and his friends in the liberal media conspired to destroy the life of Brett Kavanaugh and hold that Supreme Court seat open.

    In light of these two events, I will support President @realDonaldTrump in any effort to move forward regarding the recent vacancy created by the passing of Justice Ginsburg.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Graham’s stopped clock moment. Sorry Lindsey, I still hate you.

    • DWB

      I NEVER thought that I would vote for that man, but he earned ONE giving the smackdown to the Democrats during the Kavanaugh affair.

      Still, I’ll feel dirty…

  44. KibbledKristen

    I think a vision for my life after I unload this condo (~12 – 18 months) is starting to crystalize.

    Me + dog + small 5th wheel RV + offsite job + ‘Merica

    Where should I have my mailing address/car registration is the question….

    Taking into account taxes & bureaucracy, of course.

    • egould310

      You’re in the DC area, right? I would recommend getting a private mailbox at a good shop near your present address. Preferably in the same zip if there is a quality store nearby. That way, even though you may be traveling the vast majesty of the USA; your cell phone service, credit cards, banks, relatives, credit file, etc thinks your still rooted in the DC area. My $0.02.

      • KibbledKristen

        VA’s vehicle inspection requirements may be a hurdle, but if I keep my current job, I would have to come here at least once a year anyway. Something to consider. There are plenty of UPS Stores & FedEx Stores around here.

      • egould310

        Vehicle inspection. That can be a bitch. Florida has plenty of “dual residents” what with the snowbirds and all. That could be a good starting point.

      • KibbledKristen

        FL also has the whole no state income tax thing…

      • egould310

        Yeeup!

    • Dr Mossy Lawn

      You will need to research RV’s and property and sales tax implications. (This is big in Aircraft, there are certain states you don’t buy an airplane in if you don’t live there)
      VA has a personal property tax. So it won’t be there.
      If you hang around in any one spot too much the local use tax people come after you. For certain things NC is a reasonable compromise, they charge a use tax, but it has a $2K max)..

    • dbleagle

      Wyoming. Inexpensive for both.

  45. Mojeaux

    In preparation for seeing the new Bill & Ted, we are watching the stupidest, most boring, totally bogus movie ever made. Ugh.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Remember…Death has never been defeated.

  46. KibbledKristen

    @SP I told my dad he should write some content for here. He seemed to like the idea.

  47. egould310

    Heading out for some cocktails. Later, y’all.