O-H yeah!!!
I had to pinch myself because I thought it was a dream. The Big Ten is back! And that means football, man. Sweet, sweet, college football. Also, the US Open starts today. Can anybody catch DJ? Possibly, but I’m not even sure I’d take the field against him this week. Dude is absolutely on fire. And that’s sports.
That’s how you celebrate a win.
Revolutionary general Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben was born on this day. He shares it with outfielder Earl Webb, hotelier J.W. Marriott, Supreme Court justice Warren Burger, country legend Hank Williams, actor Roddy McDowall, racing legend Sir Stirling Moss, actress Anne Bancroft, basketball coach Phil Jackson, Indian PM Narendra Modi, pitcher John Franco, hockey player Alex Ovechkin, and QB Patrick Mahomes.
That’s it for that. Now on to…the links!
Well this sucks. I’ve got a good buddy in Orange Beach, AL and he tells me its absolutely devastated there. I hope they’re all ok.
Party time: Barbados style!
Barbados to become a republic. Gives the queen two fingers. Good for them. Royalty is outdated.
Wait, what? We have heat rays? Also, any military unit that doesn’t “stockpile” ammunition before doing anything is an unprepared military unit. But I want to know more about these heat rays.
I guess this won’t be a big deal either, right? You know, since none of them were ever technically at war with Israel…even though most of them didn’t even recognize their right to exist until about a week ago.
Minneapolis has gone to shit.
Somebody should ask them what the road to hell was paved with. Oh well, maybe they could just start arming the social workers now. And give them arrest powers. Oh, and train them on how to safely apprehend people. And then just call them the police. Dumbasses.
This is unsurprising. I’m just shocked the mayor demanded the reforms. This one will be interesting, seeing as Chicago is probably the most corrupt, out-of-control PD in the country. Well, this is what happens when the one party who runs a city lets the police be above the law for decades.
This guy knows his video game protocols: Weapon slot 1: (ranged) Weapon slot 2: (melee). Also, boba sucks.
Please make this a reality. I’m sure all the farmers will adapt.
Here’s a nice, breezy song. I hope you enjoy it. I will.
Now have a great day, friends! I’m headed home today, so I know I will.
Daylight savings time needs to go away everywhere.
It was a stupid idea from the word go.
Most government ideas on how to control things are.
But without government mandating Daylight Savings Time, thousands of hours of work will be lost in the IT sector!
Less barbeque season and kids trick or treating in the dark! [These are real arguments Congress hears]
If only there was some sort of technology that we could harness to produce light when and where we needed it. Perhaps in some sort of bulbous form.
Tricknology!
Does this bulbous light make my ass look fat?
But Lord Newsom says such things are tools of the Devil.
Trick or treating is better in the dark, walking around asking for stuff in daylight is panhandling.
I suck yo dick for some crack yo….
In the dark this is just Halloween trick or treating?
No, it’s trick treating.
And you’re behind on what you owe. Pay up, ho.
If we have to chose one, I’d prefer DST year round rather than standard time. But either one of those beats the hell out of bouncing back and forth.
Instead, we get year round TDS.
I like the idea of “permanent daylight savings” but rename it “standard time”.
I hate leaving work in the dark.
Pffft because of the Kung Flu nobody is going to work anymore, so who cares?
……
Go in an hour earlier, leave an hour earlier?
Standard business hours are 8-5, but never asked my employer about shifting my time in the office. It would be nice though.
Some employers have variable hours. Say 6 to 9 to start, and 3 to 6 to end, but that’s mostly for white collar types where the work can happen at any time.
Clock punchers get hosed…
Agreed. If we kept the current standard time all year it would start getting light at 4am in the summer. Would much rather have that extra sunlight in the evening year round.
You are objectively incorrect in your preference.
Fact Check: False. You aren’t even close to true.
Before DST, 40 millions died from lack of DST, just the year before. That was in Kansas alone. /CNN
Please make this a reality. I’m sure all the farmers will adapt.
My dislike for Rubio decreased after reading that article.
Really? He’s a cheaper whore than Winston’s Mom.
He’s trying to fix DST and my opinion of him was very low. In absolute terms he’s still pretty low, but he got a modest bump from being against the DST switching insanity.
But he’s not against DST, he’s for it. And that makes him a monster.
I don’t care what hour they set the clock to as long as it stays there.
^This.
We could switch the whole country to GMT for all I care as long a they stop jacking with it.
The sun should be overhead-ish at noon. It should be dark at midnight.
Damn, that was fast.
Networked aircraft. Didn’t they watch the BSG reboot?
I’m not saying this is a good idea. But if it gives us Grace Park sexbots, I can’t totally oppose it.
Grace is fine and dandy, but Tricia Helfer sexbots are like the nuclear weapon of sexbots.
Funny how they managed that as an entirely black program, no scrutiny whatsoever.
It’s the $600 hammers and $3000 toilet seats that paid for it, just like they did back during the Cold War…
The farmers, I think, have been unfairly blamed for this the whole time.
when Indiana switched to daylight savings time, the common argument for it was that the only people against it were the farmers who thought it would confuse their cows.
Because cows can tell time?
shhhhh, don’t tell anyone
https://images.app.goo.gl/z5j3Mpfp9KsH6Db67
Looks that way. This was another government fuckup most people disliked. Way to go, FDR:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States#1916–1966:_Early,_inconsistent_use
Fuck that guy and the wheelchair he rode in on.
I thought it was a “think of the CHILDREN!” where in the deep darkness, murderers were swooping by in their cars would splatter and/or abduct schoolchilluns waiting for the bus.
“think of the CHILDREN!”
In Alaska. Too much darkness in winter, too much daylight in summer. How will those kids be able to sleep with all that sunshine?
China runs on one time zone across the entire country.
Of course, it’s normalized to Beijing time, but still…
That also seems dumb.
But do the trains run on time?
Ask the Uighurs…
They’re just microwave ovens with holes in the door, painted coyote brown.
Those things are terrifying. A sadistic operator could easily cause 2nd degree burns to a person. Though, that assumes it can be re-positioned fast enough to follow a fleeing target and I honestly don’t know how quickly they can be moved around. I still don’t like it. Gives me the heebie-jeebies. Odd that I’d be upset about it’s possible use against rioters when there’s a small bit of darkness in me that believes thieves should be shot. Oh well, we’re glibs, we’re walking dichotomies.
They have hand held versions for short range work…
I presume handheld models would not be capable of instantaneously heating the entirety of the dermis. If that’s the case, I might be able to get on board. Probably less risky than a flashbang to the face… probably.
For every measure there is a countermeasure. Bad guy gets a cop’s ray gun, turns it around
That’s a risk all weapons pose…
Not the ‘smart’ gun! The smart gun can’t be used on its owner! Of course about a third of the time the smart gun can’t be used by its owner either, but hey, at least after the assailant beats 9 kinds of hell out of you (while you try to get the grip scanner to read your fingerprint) and takes it away he won’t be able to shoot you!
Good enough for government work…
Why Barbados so mad? If it weren’t for the British Crown then none of those malcontents would be living in paradise? *sips Tom Collins*
Without another layer of government, there are insufficient opportunities for graft.
I wonder what kind of dingleberries are written into this new Law. Probably something like a kid moving off to college and having access to Mom’s credit card. “Oh look! My fledgling is finally leaving the roost!” Two months later it will be “People are mean! I need a new airport and China keeps coming around, unannounced.”
A Republic if they can keep it. (We couldn’t)
Nice shot, Man.
“Supreme Court justice Warren Burger”
mmmmmmm……burger
All of the Supremes should be named after tasty food items.
Trump should nominate Pie to SCOTUS?
His Pie or our Pie?
Both of course.
gooble gobble one of us
Supremes should be named after tasty food items.
Young Diana Ross, yummmmm
Maybe we can all start a food truck with Supremes-inspired dishes.
Thomas: Smoked Shad
Gorsuch: (I don’t know, can think of anything funny)
Kav: Beer-battered hot dog
Roberts: Looks like a ham sandwich. Tastes like a shit sandwich.
Alito: Double baco cheese burger its for a cop & literacola combo meal
Thomas: Pube on a Coke.
The McRGB?
How surprising…
“Hello my baby, hello my honey…”
That is is some prime sciencing by that there journalismist.
Gotta use big words to show you were edjumacated!
I can’t believe the contortions that the regular liars are going through to paint this Mid-East development as a colossal failure. He’s trying, for fucks sake! I’ve actually come around to the idea that OMB actually does love his country, especially when it loves him back. The cynic in me sees it as a power play to isolate Iran but I can live with that.
No good deed goes unpunished
لماذا ليس كلاهما؟
Translation?
Why not both?
If you isolate Iran/Palestine against the rest of the Arab world, they’ll be more likely to come to the table. Maybe.
“But I want to know more about these heat rays.”
The Active Denial System (ADS), is a non-lethal, directed-energy weapon developed by the U.S. military, designed for area denial, perimeter security and crowd control. Informally, the weapon is also called the heat ray since it works by heating the surface of targets, such as the skin of targeted human beings.
The ADS works by firing a high-powered (100 kW output power)[13] beam of 95 GHz waves at a target, which corresponds to a wavelength of 3.2 mm. The ADS millimeter wave energy works on a similar principle as a microwave oven, exciting the water and fat molecules in the skin, and instantly heating them via dielectric heating. One significant difference is that a microwave oven uses the much lower frequency (and longer wavelength) of 2.45 GHz. The short millimeter waves used in ADS only penetrate the top layers of skin, with most of the energy being absorbed within 0.4 mm (1⁄64 inch), whereas microwaves will penetrate into human tissue about 17 mm (0.67 inch).
***Lindy West perks up***
***Lindy West
perks upboils***boilsRenders.Fat is rendered, not boiled.
Look at who’s never defended the walls of a castle.
Comments like this is why I come here.
Man, it’s never been good to be obese but now with Covid and these fat-shaming laser beams, 2020 has taken it to a whole new level.
They have sonic and microwave heat non-lethal weapons. They also have tear-gas, guns, clubs, and lots of really fit young men to wield them. If they wanted to end the riots, they would have.
I thought the Active Denial System was the web of Democratic operatives, mainstream media, etc. coordinating to discount and/or ignore Biden’s obvious mental decline.
*rimshot*
Demi Rose hardest hit.
Well this sucks.
Superstorm
SandySally.“Somebody should ask them what the road to hell was paved with.”
I don’t think they have good intentions.
“Also, boba sucks.”
So you are saying it sucks balls?
After careful consideration, I’m giving that a
*golf clap*
*squints suspiciously*
That’s the look everyone gets when a boba gets stuck in their straw. Just blow it out and try again.
Chewy black tapioca balls?
For those of us from the land of Extra Mild Salsa, what is boba? I guess I could look it up, but I thought you guys would be happy to enact my labor.
Chunky sweet tea.
Tea with balls of tapioca.
*barfs*
Its really good. Not in an acquired taste or hipster way. Like, actually good.
balls of tapioca
I assume that is at the opposite end of the scale from balls of brass?
It is hard to separate the balls from the tapioca…
We call it bubble tea around here.
That’s what I have seen that abomination called in The People’s Republic of Connecticut as well…
Aren’t you sleeping with a Korean lady? And you don’t know what boba is?
Not as much as I would like to. But she drinks regular tea.
Maybe it is written in hangul and I am too dumb to read it.
I like Boba. I am considering having a Boba Fete.
Federal officials looked into getting a heat ray that makes targets’ skin feel like it’s burning and amassed thousands of rounds of ammunition in preparation for clearing a peaceful protest in Lafayette Square in June, according to written House testimony from an Army National Guard major who was at the scene.
If it was peaceful such measures would not be considered.
That was a typo, they meant “mostly peaceful”
That would be the one where the vandalized and tried to burn the church, right?
Peacefully.
Was this whistleblowing major, Maj Frank Burns?
Also, majors are the Spec4’s of the officer world.
Oh-oh, outed!
How old are you?
There is no such thing as a Spec 4.
They’re just Specialist.
They got rid of SP5 thru SP7 starting in ’78 and into the early 80’s, ans SP4 became a Specialist (SPC).
As a a Troop Commander, I still called some of my soldiers Spec4 in the late ’90s and my 1SG would jump my shit over it.
So what happened to specialist 1-3?
Privates aren’t special.
mine are
I was a E1, E2, Pfc, corporal, a SP3 (convert from Corporal), A Staff sergeant E-5, a SP5 (converted from SSG, due to MOS, then a 3 stripe Sgt E-5, then a SP6 (or Speedy 6 as we called ourselves) a platoon sgt E-7, 2Lt, 1LT, Cpt, and Major finally after 22 years. Heckuva ride
Good morning, Sloopy!
Well, at least for most people in most places. Minneapolis? Maybe not so much.
The city is freaking a little I think, downplaying the violence and playing fast and loose with the numbers. Also, they are offering OT for the cops to do show of force patrols so people will go back downtown again. I conducted an informal poll and the most common response was “fuck no”.
The suburbs have restaurants and bars too, dumbfucks. It’s depressing as hell though. This used to be a pretty good city.
Careful, Barbados. I understand the desire to throw off the imperialism, etc. But a few years ago, when Turks got creamed by a hurricane, the RAF was ferrying in materials and supplies even before the rain stopped. Sometimes it’s nice to have a sugar daddy. Just sayin’.
Nice, happy song. A good way to close out some not so happy lynx.
Have a great day, y’all. I hope our southern glibs are safe and relatively dry.
Last I remember seeing (and it was only a few weeks ago) downtown is still 80% vacant. And I don’t see any way that will improve if stories about lawlessness keep popping up. No way all those middle class women are going to go back downtown to work in a cubicle if they think they are going to get robbed/beaten.
And it is spreading. There have been car jackings and armed robberies in Edina of all places (for those of you who aren’t from here, Edina is the famous suburb of rich pretentious fucks).
Some employers won’t let them back downtown.
In addition there have been sever carjackings in Kenwood over the last few days. Again, for those not from here, Kenwood is an extremely wealthy neighborhood made famous by Mary Tyler Moor’s house.
That’s Mary Tyler Moop, guy.
We bought our “new” fire engine from Edina FD.
Was it full of cake crumbs?
Not when I’ve been in it. The outer paint job is completely redone but there is still Edina badging in the cab. The thing is freaking impressive. The radiator fan is the size of a dinner table.
Are these rich people hiring their own private security like I heard other pretentious rich fucks in proggie cities under siege by the marxist storm front and their useful idiots yet?
Defunding the police and leaving the least economically advantaged people in these proggie strongholds to fend for themselves while the rich hire their own patrols sure as hell goes a long way to making sure these serfs know who they need to vote for unless they want the squeezing to get tighter…
When I was in high ache, Edina was our state hockey rival. They had the same school doors and both teams came out in same, so our school had to go change. (Just an irrelevant detail I remember). Anyway, we lost, but that was back when there was only one league. Now they play in different leagues.
I don’t think they’re proposing to leave the Commonwealth, which I think is the usual pretext for aid of that sort. Over half of the countries in the Commonwealth are republics anyway – most of the rest will go once Jug Ears takes over.
He’ll never reign. Liz is to mean to die.
She obviously had Chucky’s balls removed and implanted in her to keep herself young.
There’s gotta be some benefit they’re giving up or why didn’t they do this decades ago, I wonder.
They now will be more responsible for their own financials. This sort of move in ex-colonial Caribbean states usually happens when the locals comprising the political class think the opportunity for them to steal more money goes up if this move is made. Doesn’t always work out that way for them however from other examples. But it doesn’t dissuade them from doing it anyway.
Is mask burning the new bra burning of protests?
For the record this protest had the same ratio of crackers/blacks as any of the BLM riots.
The other video that I saw had that big, blonde girl front and center and she was a serious Wood. Mid-western, hardy stock! She’ll turn to fat in a few years but not my concern.
I think it’s important to watch videos of people significantly dumber than yourself, just for the establishment of self-esteem.
https://youtu.be/wcCSknYj728?t=282
What was the purpose of that?!?
And no, icebergs aren’t dangerous. PEOPLE who do stupid things are dangerous. I love how we’re so unbelievably stupid and arrogant we blame nature for hurting us when we act like retards. See lockdowns with the virus. Covid-19 has ravaged economies all over the world! Erm. No. Our REACTION to this mild epidemic did.
The problem is that we no longer allow nature to take its course and rid us of these idiots, because we are now civilized or something…
I thought this was kinda of an important story. Perhaps even a bombshell because it pretty much ends the ‘droplets’ theory and with it the retardation of wearing masks. No wonder masks don’t work….IT’S AN AEROSOL. If his is in fact true, FUCKEN DUMBASS PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIAL should be strung up if they don’t PIVOT. Like NOW.
https://time.com/5883081/covid-19-transmitted-aerosols/
Still guessing.
Then there’s this:
Yeah, no.
Yeh the recommendations are retarded and he’s facing right back into the trap.
It’s like Sweden never existed. It’s just incredible.
Apparently stopping life is ‘logical’.
It’s like that Winston Churchill quote from the 30’s wherein he complains about being “The lone voice in the wilderness” regarding the rise of Fascism. I feel that way now but it is Glibs and the Alt-Media saying the same.
What I got out of that was that we need even more lockdown. No more talking in public.
He made a good case for aerosol being a bigger vector for transmission than droplets, but then he keeps arguing for masks? And comes up with a new boogeyman of mask wearers?
Great, now the Karens will stop ogling my ass from behind and start nagging me about how my mask fits.
Just start wearing another mask over your package.
A mask for my package? Anyone know how much one of those cargo parachutes cost?
Here you go.
/tosses Jimbo an army man with a parachute in a plastic egg
Ouch….
Awesome! And there is enough room left over for me to carry my D&D dice set.
He’s an oft-cited scientist and pimps masks.
Incredible. I admit I ignored his recommendations because, to me, aerosols mean: You can’t do shit.
Masks DO NOT stop a virus that is vapour.
The ONLY play is to be like Sweden but it looks like they’re going to stick to a script bound to fail.
It’s Medieval in its thinking.
But that’s an insult to the Middle-Ages. At least back then, they didn’t have access to instant information and could be excused to have left certain beliefs in medicine to last a while until science proved otherwise. But when made available, they did pivot. That’s my impression. But certain superstitions did persist ‘old wives’ tales’ and such. Today, it seems like even when evidence comes in that should force a reversal of a dubious measure, they don’t do it. They stick to it. Eventually, they may be forced to change course but in the process a lot of damage is made. Ie beliefs in pseudoscience like masks.Moving forward, you will always see people in masks long after this passes and we gradually get back to normal. That’s your fall out. Plus lost in trust in public officials. I can’t for the life of me think how anyone could like a medical bureaucrats other than with a harsh critical and skeptical – if not cynical – eye.
They have the keys to the Cadillac and driving it under the influence of pseudoscience.
Take the damn keys back already.
“These are the important factors in mathematical models of aerosol transmission“
Get back to me when you have something scientific.
He used some scientific words like “mathematical” and “aerosol”
The article doesn’t provide any evidence it’s an aerosol.
“For example, contact tracing has found that much COVID-19 transmission occurs in close proximity, but that many people who share the same home with an infected person do not get the disease. To understand why, it is useful to use cigarette or vaping smoke (which is also an aerosol) as an analog. Imagine sharing a home with a smoker: if you stood close to the smoker while talking, you would inhale a great deal of smoke. Replace the smoke with virus-containing aerosols, which behave very similarly, and the impact is similar: the closer you are to someone releasing virus-carrying aerosols, the more likely you are to breathe in larger amounts of virus. We know from detailed, rigorous studies that when individuals talk in close proximity, aerosols dominate transmission and droplets are nearly negligible.”
That whole paragraph makes no sense.
But most people who get the disease share a home with an infected person.
Denier!
‘Member when Fauxchi said wearing a mask would 1) be unhelpful and 2) cause one to touch one’s face more often, which is possibly more harmful?
I used to live in Orange Beach for a short time myself, and Pensacola for several years afterwards. My wife’s parents own a couple of condos there and generally spend their winters there, but went down early this year. No idea why they didn’t evacuate, but yeah, they said it’s really bad. Not quite as bad as Ivan, which happened the first year they owned a condo down there, but bad.
Please make this a reality.
Word. I’d rather dark in the morning and more light in the evening after work.
Me too, and I work 6-2:30.
I’m just amazed every time the subject comes up how many people here feel compelled to virtue signal about how much more than everybody else they hate Daylight Savings Time.
I’m sorry this is happening to you.
I don’t care which way it settles – it is the annual dickery with back/forward that I am thoroughly fed up with.
That’s my position.
But why do you need the govt to stop fucking around with time to make this happen?
Why don’t companies just change work hours?
My biggest beef with this is that some poor programmers are going to have to start adding in hacks for the great 2020 Pause into code that uses time series data.
It is already bad enough having to account for daylight savings shifts. Now you just lost an hour forever? Ugh.
Also, fishing for panfish in the spring just after dawn is great. Without DST, I would have an extra hour for that. So some of us might not want to start working in the dark.
Look, we can’t just do things because the sun is outside. It has to feel like the right time to do it.
We actually voted to rid ourselves of that vexatious plan a year or two ago but the Provincial Government won’t do a damn thing about it unless the rest of the Western Seaboard does the same. So we’re fucked.
“To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”
– Voltaire
Fox News shut down Newt Gingrich for uttering the name of George Soros.
I posted this yesterday afternoon and thought a lot about since. He’s the guy who funded antifa (maybe re-founded it here in the U.S.), hijacked BLM and pulled it into the same organization, build those organizations into dangerous communist street armies, and paid many millions to get radicals elected as DA’s so the won’t prosecute his street soldiers. He’s organizing a communist revolution.
Now the main opposition news outlet exposed itself as completely fake. They are okay reporting on the violence in the streets, but are purposefully not connecting the dots and are afraid to say the man’s name. We are truly screwed. Maybe not this year, but by the next election cycle, we’ll be in a for real civil war because nobody is willing to stop it.
Can’t the feds prosecute them? Most of these people are committing both state and federal crimes, especially if a link can be made that their actions are politically motivated.
These assholes? They can rush 15 agents out to a race track if a black driver is scared of his garage door rope, but no, they can’t (won’t) investigate anything to do with Soros or antifa.
/deletes link that Count Potato has down in post 22.
What would happen if it was right-wingers looting.
How antifa operates – and they are continuously improving because they are not being disrupted.
The hilarious thing (well, not actually funny I guess) is that all sorts of mainstream liberal media outlets reported on the staggering amount of money Soros dumped into local DA races at the time it was happening, but now act as though none of that actually happened. They don’t deny it, but rather simply refuse to discuss it at all. It’s surreal.
He thinks he’s Crassus.
Can we just skip to having the parthians pour gold down his throat?
^^^ Nice pull, Muppet! Now if only he would lead an expedition against the Parthians…
You would think he’d over play his hand already. For all the destruction of life he has caused, how this guy is still standing left to continue his tyranny of misery is odd.
You’d think that the Mossad would have dealt with this decades ago. Unless… Dunnn dunnn dunnn
As long as he leaves them alone….
I thought the French or Brits were going to kill him when he messed with their currencies.
“Bill Barr compares national coronavirus lockdown to SLAVERY: AG says it is one of the ‘greatest intrusions on civil liberties – as he calls for sedition charges for violent BLM protesters and urges Seattle’s mayor to be prosecuted for allowing CHOP”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8741415/US-justice-chief-proposed-charging-protestors-sedition-reports.html
Who would prosecute Seattle’s mayor?
He;s a fat blowhard who has talked a good game while not doing shit.
The Justice Department is trying to make the email scandal go away now according to Judicial Watch. Barr is letting it happen.
Yup. Nobody is stopping him from bringing sedition charges or civil rights cases to end the lockdowns.
Probably half the rioters in Kenosha could have been prosecuted under federal law.
I can’t help but respond “fuck off” commerce clause abuser!
The lampposts
The Feds could, I suppose, charge him with deprivation of civil rights for the citizens who had their property basically held hostage.
Is there a requirement to protect for government officials?
“‘I didn’t know I had the ‘rona when we went out’: US military employee who faces ten years in German jail for bar crawl with COVID-19 revealed – as it emerges she served top brass at conference on how to stop disease spreading”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8741665/US-military-employee-faces-ten-years-German-jail-bar-crawl-COVID-19-apologizes.html
I’d give up a day or two of the sniffles back in the long ago if she was the vector.
Oh, FFS. Just transfer her stateside, ya stupid fucks.
With the rest of the entire U.S. contingent of military forces in Germany.
“‘You let the pandemic come in’: Chris Rock slams Dems for focusing on Trump’s impeachment trial while coronavirus spread to the US
Comedian Chris Rock hit out at Democrats for being so focused on impeaching President Trump earlier this year that they allowed the coronavirus pandemic to hit the United States.
In a lengthy interview with the New York Times published Wednesday, Rock compared Trump to a ‘five-year-old’ as he discussed the country’s summer of unrest.
The 55-year-old actor blasted Pelosi as he claimed ‘it’s all the Democrats’ fault’ and accused both political parties of ‘fake news’.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8742163/Chris-Rock-slams-Democrats-focusing-impeachment-coronavirus-began-spread-US.html
Come. Come to the dark side Mr. Rock.
What’s he worth, dollar-wise? I’m sure there are plenty of our betters quaking in their silken slippers about the Left’s usurpation of the Dems.
That’s going to cost him…
That crowd doesn’t like people – of any sort of melanin content – to leave the cults plantation, and gets real mean with those that do….
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1037431/blm-protester-testicle-lapd-shot-rubber-bullets/
Lost a nut.
No loss to society was incurred.
Even a blind squirrel can make a silk purse out of a pig in a poke twice a day, but you can’t make him drink.
Alright, who gave Biden a phone with an internet connection?
Mothah Fuckah tryna California my Tennessee! Nashville Mayor covers up low Covid cases traced to bars and restaurants.
https://fox17.com/news/local/covid-19-emails-from-nashville-mayors-office-show-disturbing-revelation?fbclid=IwAR0RTN5KXW8TRnm1Xy5klDuZUYiN7mRcDt31HaG-7SjSx8hLqKks4uOvQIo
who the fuck cares. That’s a good mayor whose trying to keep business’s alive.
Of course I view the mayor in Jaws as like the only rational character in the film. Who actually thinks the shark is just going to keep eating people? It doesn’t really happen traditionally.
It does in the movies!
Read it again. He’s trying to strangle good news.
Mayor is asshoe.
yeah I’m illiterate.
And I can’t spel.
*high five*
Well then Q’s hiatus must’ve hit you the hardest
/scratches head
Yeah no- the way I read it, they were downplaying the numbers out of restaurants, as the really low numbers did not justify, er, shutting down the restaurants. Had they followed the contact tracing data, they’d have intervened at construction sites and nursing homes- maybe even saving some lives while they were at it.
Everything that comes out seems to indicate that every person in power ran to their health departments, whose “experts” kind of shrugged, and then looked for the most visible example of “Do Something” they could find on instagram.
Woops – you win.
Nobody wins until this house of cards is toppled.
I guess the real fear is they are going to let people get along with their lives before the election and nothing will happen and people will become enraged and vote them out. If they go till after the election they keep their jobs a little longer.
Bet that mayor stomped his feat in a tissy when news came out that OMB “down-played” the virus but he is a-okay with not providing the public with information.
This isnt national security so any and all information barring personal identifiers should be made available to anyone. Fuckers.
Grr….feet. I need more coffee
“‘Take off your mask!’: Florida protesters sporting MAGA t-shirts and hats defy COVID rules and march maskless through a Target store singing ‘we’re not gonna take it’
The incident took place in hard-hit Florida where confirmed cases of the deadly virus have now topped 671,000 and the death toll is edging closer to 13,000.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8742279/Protesters-MAGA-t-shirts-hats-march-maskless-Target-shouting-mask.html
2% seems high.
They are using confirmed cases and not estimated cases. When people who are asymptomatic or didn’t get tested for minor symptoms are factored in (which is probably several times the 671k number), the death rate is probably closer to 0.1% or even less.
But that number might not come across as scary As the lame 2% one to those that freak out about anything and everything…
in hard-hit Florida where confirmed cases of the deadly virus have now topped 671,000
So what we have is a “case-demic”.
The US Open ended on Sunday.
😛
Are you saying that the us open… is closed?
“Donald Trump says the House might decide the election as he paints doomsday scenario of North Korea forging ballots, mass fraud, results off by 15% and protests which will be ‘put down’ ”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8741449/Donald-Trump-says-House-decide-election-paints-doomsday-scenario.html
North Korea?
ISTR that they have some of the best forgers in the world. Something about them printing US currency.
Can they even afford paper?
Of course. They pay for it with counterfeit $100s.
Nashville Mayor and his advisors likes his extra power – lied about covid at bars and restaurants.
Holy shit, if that doesn’t call for an angry mob demanding the mayor’s resignation, then nothing will.
“Leslie Waller from the health department asks, “This isn’t going to be publicly released, right? Just info for Mayor’s Office?”
“Correct, not for public consumption,” writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles.”
Assholes.
Also, that transmission at bars and restaurants would be low makes sense.
No idea why construction would have a high rate of transmission.
The Air Force Secretly Designed, Built, and Flew a Brand-New Fighter Jet
And they say it only took a year to do it, which is just insane.
Why don’t they just do what they did last year a few hundred times?
It does raise the question of how much they spent on this little adventure.
IF the hype is even close to true (secret, speedy development and build, etc.) then that doesn’t bode well at all for the aircraft’s long-term mission competence and (therefore) future with the US military.
How on earth can it be expected to simultaneously deliver huge amounts of pork to 435 Congressional districts if it isn’t fantastically bloated?
New stat for military planes? Pork payload?
Biggest driver of a plane being forced on the military by the political class and those they appoint to run the military…
Yes, that’s what makes this so fascinating. Who made this happen, and what was the motivation?
IF it does have a future, maybe they could call it the F-0.02857, since that’s the inverse of 35.
Counterargument – it was a black bag project to allow them to hire competent developers and fabs without having to go through the “one bolt from each congressional district” procurement channels that modern military development is hampered by.
My evidence is that it works.
Excuse me – you haven’t even seen it take off. All you know is what they claim it does.
I have never seen an F-35 fly either.
Really, not even a video? There has been plenty of that.
They do wonders with CGI these days.
But have you ever seen an elephant fly?
No one reads the links.
As long as it is voluntary, Donald.
“Today my administration released our detailed National Vaccine Distribution Plan and that includes a plan to ensure that we swiftly deliver the vaccine directly to America’s senior citizens in nursing homes and it’s all set. We have our military lined up. Everybody is lined up and we think that’s going to go nicely,” Trump said. “We’re fully mobilizing the awesome power of American industry and also our military.”
“We’re on track to deliver and distribute the vaccine in a very, very safe and effective manner,” Trump continued, saying December will be the latest date 100,000 doses will be distributed with the possibility of an October start date. “We’re ready to move and it will be a full distribution.”
I have no idea how they could have tested a vaccine so quickly.
The vaccine is obviously effective. Of those people who have been testing it, fewer than 1% have died of the ‘vid.
I should have posted this sob story:
https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/father-of-lancaster-protester-calls-1-million-bail-vindictive/
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Meh. It wasn’t appropriate for the Waco bikers, nor here. If he’s legitimately too dangerous to be given bail, they should just deny bail.
I’m not so sure these situations are the same. The Waco “bikers” didn’t show up to start a riot. Most of the people caught up in the arrests weren’t even there for the meetup. And that meetup turned violent when the cops started shooting.
These people are literally trying to burn down occupied buildings.
I’m also chuckling how everybody is self-identifying as a medic now since that dipshit who had half his arm blown off got his junk stroked by the media after identifying himself that way.
And if you don’t like the sight of blood, you can write “Press” on your clothing.
It’s a truism in the backcountry – rescue the medic first, and the group photographer next.
Violent arsonists, looters, and vandals get no sympathy from me. Fuck em.
^^^^THIS^^^^
And they should have made the bail even higher so the dnc operatives bailing out these fuckers would run out of cash and lose that ability.
“But….but….it was FUN to playact being a Bolshevik!”
Wouldn’t a forest dedicated to a fertility goddess be the BEST place to make a porno?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54152233
That’s not the goal of porn sex.
Can’t be a practicing heterosexual without the practicing.
That was the plot to a Xxxenophile cartoon from decades back. Satan had his chosen ones engage in ritual perversion, but since they skipped vaginal intercourse, the Antichrist never got conceived.
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1306436944835080192
Enthusiasm.
“Violent, far-right Trump supporters block highway.”
/Media.
Don’t forget the fact they are also racists!
Interestingly, I have a dim view of your honesty, Pete.
Buttigieg said, “You know, the best way to see who can handle that demanding schedule is to see who can handle it on the campaign trail. I’m in my 30s. The presidential trail beat me up. It’s tough. I was competing with Joe Biden, and Joe Biden beat me and every other contender that was there. I don’t think there’s a question about his ability to do that.”
He continued, “I’m not surprised that President Trump is frantically trying to get out of the hole he’s in. He knows he’s behind… He’s going to try to make up that advantage. We’ve seen Vice President Biden campaigning across the country. There’s one key difference. He’s never going to stuff his supporters into a room without masks in an indoor space over the objections of local public health officials. When you do that, you show a level of fundamental disrespect for your own supporters. Think about how low an opinion the Trump campaign must have of Trump supporters even back to Tulsa where they made people go into the event, sign waiver—”
A waiver that the attendees gladly signed.
Weak stuff, Petey. Biden didn’t beat you (although you didn’t have a chance in hell and I still have no idea how you got in the room), Bernie smoked all of you. Then the DNC decided – once again – who would run.
Weak.
I’m sure something will come of this.
Graham said, “The day of reckoning is upon us when it comes to Crossfire Hurricane. James Comey has agreed to appear before the Senate Judiciary Committee on September the 30th, without a subpoena. I appreciate Mr. Comey coming before the committee. He will be respectfully treated, but asked hard questions. We’re negotiating with McCabe, Mr. McCabe. We’re hoping to get him without a subpoena, time will tell. Mueller has declined the invitation of the committee to appear to explain his report after the Horowitz Report.”
*rolls eyes*
I’ll believe it when Comey is in the pokey.
Beware of Lindsey Grahams bearing gifts.
Hard questions? What is the airspeed of an unladen swallow!
Insufficient information provided.
If anything was going to happen, he wouldn’t be bloviating about a “day of reckoning” before issuing subpoenas to every person involved. Instead he’s asking them to come without a subpoena so he can lob softballs at them.
You want a day of reckoning? Issue subpoenas, have them show up, and absolutely grill them with every question preceded by “remember, you’re under oath”.
Lyndsey is what the Gay folk (Pbut) call a “soft bottom”. Very little will come of this except for the fact that people on either side already calcified in their thinking will walk away thinking that they have gained a “win”.
these people are spineless pussies. IF this had happened to a dem nominee everyone involved would already be in prison/possibly hung for prison and they would be writing in the textbooks about the deep state coup by the republicans to undermine the republic.
*treason
this is why I have no hope for the republic. we lost, and it happened a long time ago.
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1306423437733187584
“CNN is reporting that Attorney General Bill Barr said in a speech that coronavirus closures are the ‘greatest intrusion on civil liberties’ other than slavery in US history.”
This is a slight exaggeration but it’s easily in the top 5. Think maybe when FDR had the gold buy back and interned the japanese? The draft? Income tax.
The suspension of Habeus Corpus?
Shhhh. You are not allowed to criticize the Lincoln regi – uh – administration.
This is a slight exaggeration but it’s easily in the top 5.
Probably.
well yes.
Depends how you want to look at it. If you look at it by the number of people who are having their rights violated he’s got a point. The severity of the violations tempers that.
For example here in NJ I’ve got it bad, but not as badly as the Japanese who were interned.
not as badly as the Japanese who were interned.
Today is constitution day, and I will spend it teaching 15 and 16 year olds that Korematsu was good law until 2018
That’s arguable, the others minus the income tax were somewhat limited in scope. This effects everyone to one degree or another for the most part.
More or less. They have been playing around with them for awhile now. I think the Marine Corps was the initial customer. They wanted them to dissuade protestors from storming embassies amd the like. Tehran 1979 left a bit of a mark.
Dried up old bag can’t fake it anymore.
Pelosi with an incredible emotional pivot here
Sid you ever have a really mean, vindictive Grandma while you were growing up? Triggered!
So Stupid fingers.
Well, at least this replacement for a festival is mildly entertaining. <a href="https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/09/see-giant-sculptures-made-entirely-of-duck-tape-from-avon-scavenger-hunt-thats-replaced-annual-festival-photos.html"City of Avon does a city wide Duck Tape sculpture scavenger hunt.
Yes, this is actual Duck Tape by Manco. Their headquarters is in the city (I consulted at their old office once, and later worked in that same building later for a different company).
Damn it:
https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/09/see-giant-sculptures-made-entirely-of-duck-tape-from-avon-scavenger-hunt-thats-replaced-annual-festival-photos.html
Is this guy serious?
ABC’s Jon Karl, who has reported from several war zones, said that covering an indoor rally for President Donald Trump is “like you are taking your family with you to Fallujah.”
Karl, who was president of the White House Correspondents’ Association at the time of Trump’s Tulsa rally in June, noted that the contagious nature of the virus makes it unlike shooting a war. “This is not like embedding with the Marines in Fallujah,” he said to the National Journal. “It is like you are taking your family with you to Fallujah.”
They can’t help themselves at this juncture. The precipice is beckoning and no one defeats Newton’s Laws. What a fucking maroon.
So I used to think I was probably too much of a coward to go to war, certainly voluntarily. But now you’re saying my daily, casual trips to the grocery store or liquor store is just like being in a combat zone? Holy shit, I’m a badass and I didn’t even know it.
If you agree with him, then he’s using hyperbole to make an emotional point.
If you disagree with him, he’s mentally deranged and should be removed from office under the 25th Amendment.
Wait, who are we talking about again?
He sounds exactly like everyone else in the MSM. He may have a bright future at the Atlantic or Guardian if he can maintain that level of insanity.
PERMANENT DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME! YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
“Oh well, maybe they could just start arming the social workers now. And give them arrest powers. Oh, and train them on how to safely apprehend people. And then just call them the police. Dumbasses.”
I can’t remember who posted this a few days ago, or I’d give them a ht, but right here is a good idea of how that will turn out on a bigger scale. Everyone should read this.
Experiments in Anarchist Style Marxism
“That night, arsonists torched nearly every building on the Sheraton’s block, including the Popeyes, the Third Precinct substation, and Uncle Hugo’s Science Fiction Bookstore. “It was a hellscape,” Fister recalled.”
WTF? Really? Why do people accept this as normal?
Uh, that’s not what anarchists style marxism is. And not in the “no true marxist” falacy way. I mean, like, no one was given a job or beat down by a few bully boys for not showing up to work.
Did you read the article? Because it sure sounds like Marxist style anarchy to me.
People actually were given jobs, and there were anarchists who wanted authority. That article is the ultimate prog derp.
If the article says that, then its retconning. I haven’t read it. I’m antiquated with some of the people involved in trying to “help”. they weren’t operating under the tenants of anarchic marxism.
Was gonna save this for a zoom rant, but fuggit. I’m sick of conservatives claiming that all of Antifa is made up of trust fund or middle class kids gone wrong. Just scroll through the pics of Andy Ngo’s twitter and look at the people that have been arrested. These are people that have grown up in dysfunctional households, drug addicts, mentally ill people. We know that the state fucks up the average person, but we’re gonna ignore that this is the inevitable result of massive government intervention in the economy? My version of libertarianism means that we make the argument that the best you can hope for is for the government to leave you the fuck alone. Doesn’t mean we ignore the damage the government has done in the past.
/Rant off.
You’re not wrong, ya know…
If you trow an anti-police rally, you’re going to attract a shit load of criminals. That’s why we see so many, that when they are charged or shot or mentioned individually, they tend to have serious criminal records. All three of the guys who attacked Rittenhouse were felons. The bullhorn guy and the shooter in the Portland antifa murder were both felons, it goes on and on.
Same with Occupy Wall Street. They weren’t entirely wrong, but they shit in the park so conservative media ignore their complaints.
It’s been a while since I read OWS’s complaints. But, at the time, I remember thinking most of their complaints were pretty spot on. The solutions, on the other hand, seemed pretty close to a classic example of cognitive dissonance.
Yes
Same with Bernie Sanders
The GOP had an opportunity to address those issues with alternative solutions, but they chose to ignore it instead. Which is what they normally do, because they’re fat and happy assholes.
Rand and Massie are about the only ones who talked about it at all.
Agreed. That’s the role we put ourselves in whether we want it or not. We gotta be honest and accept that they are right that the system is fucked, but at the same time offer and alternative to Socialism.
The “conservatives” have responded to the problems by attempting to stave off the inevitable result for as long as possible instead of accepting the pain that will come with an actual solution.
See the money supply. There is only one way this ends and the longer and further it’s pushed out, the worse it will be when it arrives. The GOP has been wholly on board with fucking over the children and grandchildren so they can claim temporary victory.
All so we can continue our farce of an economy completely driven by debt.
It’s crazy isn’t it? Despite be an AnCap, I do see something in the American character that can fend off the evil a little longer.
It is hard to sell people that have been told they are victims of evil that the system where they get rewarded for doing the right thing is better than the one that encourages looting the productive to give them some of the spoils, because these people tend to be the ones that have the hardest time with the concept of delayed gratification. Know what I am saying?
Yes.
No. The very idea that “society” is something that can or should be designed or engineered is to beg the question that a planned economy is a good thing.
You win by ideas or you win by the blade. Personally, I respect the idea man more.
As soon as you come up with a system that isn’t immediately based on harming the unpopular to help the popular, let me know.
You’re getting to a deeper point, Adahn. I’ll admit that I’m flirting with pacifism. I’m way too drunk to get into that tonight, though.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8D7waFZ6vds
Socialists are emotional infants. You can’t discuss anything with them.
And since they aren’t actual infants, you don’t need to give them pacifiers. Don’t offer them shit, just cut them off.
You start by defunding higher ed. It is no coincidence that this shit started boiling over as soon as FedGov started backing college loans.
This. Over and over. The feds subsidized the creation of a non-productive class that is intent on tearing it all down.
Had that easy money not been there, there still would have been a socialist/grievance undercurrent in American society, but it would not have expanded as quickly.
Thank you. Exactly. How many millions are out there in that totally screwed situation? So, fine, advocate ending democracy because they will win eventually. They have the numbers thanks to what the government has done. Democracy sucks IMHO.
I don’t understand what you mean by “totally screwed situation.”
People with college loans and useless degrees aren’t in a totally screwed situation. Except that over the last six months socialist-leaning government cut off their employment.
The people who are in a totally scrwed situation are subtance abusers who can’t lick their habit and turn to crime or homelessness. The people who got caught by the War On Drugs for victimless crimes that now have a crininal record that shrinks their job opportunities even if they have no subsequent violations. The bastard children – birthed with encouragement of socilaist-leaning government – that have no responsible adult looking after them and grow up to be exploited by criminals and bureaucrats (but I repeat myself).
These people aren’t toally screwed by an economic system so much as they are screwed by a cabal of legislators and sycophants whose priorities are completely out of whack. I would like to see cooler heads prevail but I’m not expecting it, anger energizes too many people.
These people aren’t toally screwed by an economic system so much as they are screwed by a cabal of legislators and sycophants whose priorities are completely out of whack.
And those are the people running the system.
The problem is the same as the problem with doing anything about Social Security and Medicare. Solving the problems means swallowing a really bitter pill, and then waiting a generation before you get the benefits. If we cut Federal spending to the bone, told everyone under 55 that they would not be getting SS and Medicare, phased out every Federal redistribution and social program, and left tax rates alone until we managed to dig out of the debt, we would be massively better off in 30 years and likely seeing improvements in 10. But the first 5 years would be bleak, and anyone who had advocated the change would be long gone before it could pay off.
Using future generations as collateral on loans is sick, sociopathic shit, but we’ve been doing it so long that hardly anbody thinks it is immoral.
While I get your point, I want to remind you that it was not the conservatives that hijacked the opportunity to finally create a movement to hold the police and government types accountable for political purposes…
was it hijacked or poisoned from the start? I’m not convinced that the optimistic view of “legitimate beef overwhelmed by commie meddling” is accurate. I think it’s more like “commie agitators find yet another way to engage in class warfare, actual context matters little.”
Poisoned or hijacked, in this case, means the same. The commies decided this was rather vehicle they could use to hold sane people hostage to their insanity.
Back when OWS was in the news with protests and things, my little town had an “Occupy (insert town name here)”. It was one hipster-looking guy holding a sign on the town square across from the Quizno’s.
That was as “corporate-y” as he could find, I guess, in downtown where there’s normal street traffic and a (literal) public square. Trying to do it out in the industrial park wouldn’t have worked.
And he ate at Quizno’s.
The rank-and-file pawns are the absolute dregs of society. The next level up – the ones in the crowd with megaphones and radios, passing out cash and weapons, herding the idiots – they are indoctrinated college kids who have been trained. The core of BLM/Antifa are college marxists.
How many of the people arrested already had criminal records? Most is my bet. I’m saying that they have identified a flaw in the system and are doing evil shit as a justification because they can. Expecting the world to go back to the days of market capture and credentialism as some meth addict is living on the street is a losing battle. It may be too late.
The organizers don’t get arrested. That’s what the pawns are for.
They are there because they were easy to recruit…
I read a blog by a guy who lived in Portland for many years and he knew a lot of younger kids there who would go to these ‘protests’ and he insists that it’s a mix of kids who see it as sort of a party scene, along with the permanently homeless crowd who travel around following this sort of thing, and the local homeless, as a way to get free stuff, drugs, etc. That’s not exact words, but more or less. I think I posted it a while back because some of it was actually funny just making fun of Portlandians, but he did touch on the make up of the permanent protest crowd. I don’t believe he mentioned rich kids who think Maxism is cool, but I think there may be a little of that also.
Oh, and there is of course, the actual organized or disorganized, antifa Marxist scum.
The full video of the Portland attack on the pickup driver – the above is a perfect description of it. It starts with a bunch of dopey asses just hanging out outside a 7-11.
I’ve been saying for some time, that a large portion of the Antifa shock troops are homeless kids on the circuit. The trust-fund kids are more in the management role.
I’ll also repeat, if you think that Antifa is a bunch of prissy little Richie-Richbois, well, here’s hoping that your stupidity doesn’t get you hurt or killed.
Exactly. It’s a big goddamn underclass that has been created.
I’ll also repeat, if you think that Antifa is a bunch of prissy little Richie-Richbois, well, here’s hoping that your stupidity doesn’t get you hurt or killed.
I’ve noticed a bizarre tendency in people to underestimate the capabilities of people or groups they don’t like. Derogatory names are used to help reinforce that perception.
It’s a dangerous way to view the world.
Hmm like ISIS being “the jay-vee”?
It is also as old as war. The troops will always be home by Christmas, until they aren’t.
The trust fund kids are mostly useful idiots. The hardcore center of Antifa are ne’er-do-wells seeking to recreate the Red Army Faction for their own glory.
There’s plenty of low-level criminals who are happy to join in. It makes them feel important and gives them an excuse to use their anti-social tendencies for a greater purpose.
You would and do get the same with a reactionary movement, just like the cops attract bullies.
“Ne’er-do-wells” is just too much of a catch-all category for me to plop everyone into. Violent criminals? Fine. I think you got a lot of people that just don’t understand what they are advocating. It’s life: you have to win minds. Do we call Snowden or Assange “ne’er-do-wells”? I don’t think so because it’s all in the eye of the beholder. It’s tough, but I really want a principled opposition to the state that admits that millions of victims have been created.
Fair enough. The core of Antifa is very similar to the core of the Red Army Faction, sociopaths who believe in the cause and who are willing to do what it takes. They get off on their victories and the strife. They’re Che wannabes who understand that Che was murderous bastard and are OK with it.
They can’t see beyond tearing the system down though. They believe utopia will come, just like the Bolsheviks did.
Utopia is what they sell the useful idiots. The real core knows that power is the objective – only power.
The trust fund kids are LARPing the hardcore life, giving directions (or trying to) the hardcore types recruited for their ability to engage in criminal activity without remorse. Yes, some of the trust fund kids have joined in on the hardcore destruction, but they tend to immediately fall apart when caught, unlike the hard core types that simply don’t give a fuck…
I’m out. I’ll read your reactions later and appreciate them. My point is above all else that underestimating how many people you have out there that have been left behind by this corrupt version of capitalism that exists in the US is not small. Personally, I’m doing fine. I’m saying that the underclass is coming for us and it’s better to address their concerns honestly than hand waving them away.
The corrupt form of capitalism we have is a direct result of adding socialism to the capitalism. Taking the remaining dregs of capitalism out isn’t going bring the utopia the bulk of the socialists dram of. What you will get is exactly what every other socialist nation got. But calmly explaining this to them only gets you summarily ignored or violently attacked.
I’m of the belief that violence begets violence. But I am fine with aggressivley ignoring the socialists. Instead, we placate them which only makes things worse.
Yeah, I’m not in with this vision. There’s way too much corruption and cronyism, and the cops have been incentivised to harm people way too readily. That doesn’t mean we’ve frozen anyone out of society. The cops are still more likely to abuse criminals ( albiet not always) and the people who are homeless/helpless are mostly those who choose it, either by drinking/drugging or sheer laziness. My fix is to punish cops like everyone else and stop impeding commerce. If people can’t make a life for themselves in the best economy we’ve ever had, it’s their fault. It ain’t easy pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, but it has never been. None of what these progs want will do anything but make it impossible. Our system is flawed, not hopelessly broken.
Sorry, your system is fucked. Give a few more years if you need, but I’m fairly certain that the US has seen it’s better days in the past. Too much debt, too much owed to foreign countries, too big of a lack of common purpose. Dissolve into smaller states or the alternative is much worse.
The thing is that the permanent underclass has largely been created by the welfare system and public education system. It is all very well to preach pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, but we have a system with a chasm. On the one side of the chasm is comfortable, and extremely easy, ‘poverty’ with social programs to ensure that you are fed, housed, and entertained as you drift along, on the other side of the chasm is “the best economy in history”. To get from the welfare side to the prosperity side means navigating the chasm, and the public schools absolutely do not provide the tools for making it through.
I come from less than zero. I’m smart, but I’m not a wizard. I have a good middle class life. I never went to college and I tested out of high school. Anyone can do it. I agree that the system is designed to thwart you at every step, But we’re all individuals. If it’s still possible, than there’s not really an excuse to not do it. We should absolutely remove as many barriers as we can, but there’s no reasonable assertion that our system has made it impossible, none.
So you succeeded in spite of the system, when a lot of people, and that’s proof that the system is fine?
“not impossible” for a single individual do to well is a pretty low bar for a system.
I cam from about the same, and have a not too dissimilar story, and I know that I only got out because of a fair number of lucky breaks. Any one of them goes the other way, and i’d have never gotten out.
The system is fucked if it takes someone so smart and so motivated that they system doesn’t encounter them much to break free (as indicated by your ability and initiative to test out of high school early)
Bullshit. I was born under a bad sign. No luck whatsoever. I used force of will to build my life and so did most others. The question is, which direction are you forcing your will to take you. I had to overcome a culture that pushed me towards criminality and poverty. If an individual wants to build a decent life for himself, he can and will. There will be roadblocks, some big and some small. Lack of will is the only mandatory bar to doing it. Everything else is just a normal obstacle. It’s ALWAYS been the case that some people have it easy and most people don’t. It’s also always been the case that every individual has the tools to build a decent life in our system. Those who don’t lack the will. Maybe our culture dissuades implementing the will, but that fall under the obstacle list, also.
The problem isn’t “the” system, or “a” system. And I think scheme is a better word than system.
The problem is we have thousands of schemes. Every legislative act is essentially the creation of yet another additional scheme. Nobody can navigate this shit and it’s frustrating – people either lash out or drop out.
People know this intuitively. Some want to get rid of all systems (anarchy) which is a romatic notion but we all know that systems will sprout up like weeds after a forest fire. We could do a controlled burn of some of the schemes, but every scheme has some stakeholders that will fight against their extermination. We wind up with a compromise every time – we’ll drop this one scheme and put two new ones in their place – the people who want a new scheme are placated and the stakeholders in the old scheme are given a place to gravitate.
It just creates more needless complexity and willeventually collapse under its own weight. I think the scientific term is entropy.
Sure it is possible, but possible is not the issue. I am glad you escaped, and am not belittling that, I am saying it has nothing to do with what I am talking about. The system as it exists manifestly contributes to the creation and continuance of a large disaffected class. Having a large disaffected class in a democratic society provides those who want to tear that society down for their own ends with troops. Redistributive policies are implemented to keep the poor quiet and subservient, but this is a sucker’s game, because once a large group of people ceases to see any connection between their actions and their quality of life they develop an attitude (which we call entitlement, but which is more complex than that word indicates) which ends up denying any connection between efforts and outcomes.
In other words if your lived experiences do not include working for something and achieving that something you end up unable to believe that anyone else earns what they achieve, which means you see people with magical lives and feel cheated that you don’t have that as well. It doesn’t help that we have a cult of celebrity filled with people who have those magical lives seemingly without any merit.
Was I supposed to let pop culture dictate my lot in life? There has always existed a human tendency towards jealousy. Eat the rich mentality has been around forever. People are people, regardless of era, race, class, etc. There’s been a number of systems that have forced people into poverty, our’s is not one of them. Opportunity abounds here, even today. There’s a raft of assholes in everyone’s way. The task of life is to pass them up and do what you want or need despite their efforts to stop you. I’m all in favor of reducing the ability of these assholes to thwart others. I just refuse to concede that the assholes have wrested control to such a degree that they are insurmountable.
The sociopaths are attracted to the chaos, as usual. But they aren’t the ones we really need to worry about. Worry about their enablers, handlers, and the people making excuses for them.
Pallets of bricks, bundles of baseball bats, sledgehammers, and sticks of dynamite have magically appeared at “protests”. That’s part of the organization. We’re already seeing some of them carrying pistols. Next up will be cases of rifles and hand grenades.
The Red Army Faction had plenty of apologists/enablers in Germany. It was trendy among the wealthy socialites to provide them cover and let them hole up in your summer house, even while they were assassinating businessmen.
Thomas Wolfe nailed the issue with Radical Chic in the USA.
100% agree, plus I’ll throw in that the assertions of a shadowy superstructure funded by a secret money-man is as stupid about Antifa as it is about libertarians.
Why come all these libertarians are spouting the same rhetoric? Must be on Koch’s payroll! Couldn’t possibly be that they actually think that.
Why come this pallet of bricks and guns shows up at a protest? Must be on Sorros’ pay roll. Couldn’t possibly be some guy who works as a mason sees shit going down and says “You know what, I’m going to bring a pallet full of bricks.”
You telling me that if shit goes down and libertarians were mobilized, no one here has a dozen 6-inch PVC pipes full of long guns buried in the back yard? No one here has a dozen med kits ready to be distributed to their like-minded compatriots? No one here has a dozen roombas and a dozen claymores ready to be glued together (maybe I’ve said too much). No one here would jump on a Signal or Google Doc private chat to figure out where their assistance would be the most useful?
Damn man
Now I’ve got to move my things.
You used your back yard? Where do you think they’re going to check after not finding them in the house?
Just like weed farms, you find an out of the way location in a public land somewhere and dig there.
Sure and expose all the bodies? Now the tree farms are going to be over run with the
‘equipment” hiders that don’t have boats.
Metal detector sales boom!
Wait, you people in this state don’t dump your bodies in fast-moving water?
Nothing in Minnesota moves fast.
*drops gloves, albeit leisurely*
100% agree, plus I’ll throw in that the assertions of a shadowy superstructure funded by a secret money-man is as stupid about Antifa as it is about libertarians.
Why come all these libertarians are spouting the same rhetoric? Must be on Koch’s payroll! Couldn’t possibly be that they actually think that.
These are apples and oranges. Rhetoric is free. No funding is needed or has been documented to spout libertarian rhetoric.
It’s indisputable that Antifa is being funded. Many donation sites are well documented online. They are being supplied with body armor, industrial lasers, medical gear, supplies, and bail money. The only question is where these funds are coming from.
It’s also indisputable that individuals and groups like Soros are funding government officials, including judges and DAs. And that these same officials are working hand in hand with Antifa through low or no bail, no arrests, and standing down the police.
I find it a little strange to think that it would be realistic for people like Soros to fund the officials working with Antifa but somehow utterly crazy that Soros et al. would fund Antifa directly.
If you want to make that connection seem not to be valid….
Don’t talk out of both sides of your mouth. If conspiracies exist on one side, they exist on both; or they don’t exist at all. I don’t buy conspiracy theories because they are religious hokum or worse. All rooted in the idea that evil has a single source (and isn’t just a fundamental aspect of humanity).
roombas and a dozen claymores ready to be glued together
The carpeting is the enemy?
Anti-cat device
I think this highlights the difficulty in discerning a mass orchestrated movement compared with a spontaneously organized movement.
Soros may be paying for a lot of this. However. he’s not stupid enough to be controlling it with marionette strings. It would be arranged in a cellular network. Alternatively, there may be a legitimate spontaneous organization of these groups. They’d likely look no different to an outside observer than if they’re being orchestrated from on high.
Whether or not they’re being orchestrated from on high, I think it’s pretty clear that they’re being supported by a robust and well established support system. They’ve had 50 years to put the support system together, and piles of nonprofits have jumped into action.
To give an example of how this works: my company has a pro bono opportunity to work with a nonpartisan voting integrity non-profit to ensure vote access for all eligible voters. This nonpartisan non-profit is a part of a constellation of non-profits that are focused on various civil rights advocacy. The non-profit that coordinates the entire constellation is a lawyer activism nonprofit that shops out corporate and law firm pro bono hours to these various “nonpartisan” non-profits, and connects the constellation to advocacy projects that are generated from another constellation of non-profits that you may be more familiar with. Included in the project generation constellation are NARAL, ACLU, GreenPeace, SPLC, and other progressive favorites.
They’ve cloaked their lefty activism in two layers of abstraction to make it more palatable to the corporate boardroom and to unsuspecting conservative and libertarian volunteers.
I’m beginning to believe that Putin is correct about NGOs and non-profits.
This is trivially easy to observe if you look in the right places on reddit, twitter, etc with zero personal contact with antif folk. Signal and Google Doc chats updated in real time by hundreds of people (with real-names attached int he Docs case) are easy to find if you look.
I don’t argue with anything you say (and in fact the books Days of Rage has a very good history of such things back in the 60’s through early 2000’s) . The money follows the people already doing the ground work, not the other way around.
But everyone paints the political opponent as a hapless stooge, or amoral money-follower who wouldn’t be doing this without the paycheck. And that’s just stupid.
Who’s funding it is irrelevant. There will always be bad actors out there exploiting the grievances of the underclass. The only way to solve that in a democracy (oh yeah, it’s a republic lol) is to have a smaller underclass.
A smaller underclass with opportunity for advancement AND rule of law.
True.
The larger the underclass, the more likely there is a consoldation of power.
I’m said it many times, the idea that we have the same number of Congressional representatives while the population has tripled means you have less representation and more concentration of power. Illinois is the prefect example – their economic collpase began once the size of the state congress shrank – it consolidated power into Mike Madigan’s office.
Yup. When I got my first real job after college, the company I worked for was big into United Way.
United Way then distributes money to a bunch of small charities. And when I looked into some of those charities, my alarm bells went off. I said “Fuck United Way – I give money directly to charities I want to ensure organizations that are against my values don’t get a dime of my money.”
A pallet of bricks is about $600 to $700 at the yard. None of the masons I know are all that generous or radical – nor that plugged into where the next BLM protest will take place.
$10k is chump change to a medium sized non-profit whose de-facto purpose is to prime the pump for the proletariat revolution.
Where does the money come from? 1000 times 1000 sources. Taxpayers themselves, wealthy donors, corporate benevolence funds. Big Non-profit is a major driver, and they’re not all puppets, even if a lot of them have roughly the same end goal.
The mason doesn’t need to be the company owner donating his own bricks. Industrial theft to aid violent political action is not at all uncommon for people who hold the tenant that all property (of capitalists) is theft.
“These are people that have grown up in dysfunctional households, drug addicts, mentally ill people.”
Is that the government’s fault?
The government that subsidizes broken families, jails young men for victimless crimes, and has indoctrination factories that teach children to explain everything and believe in nothing on pain of jail and child-removal?
No, what could they have to do with it?
The mentally ill, I think yes. Out of “compassion” we let large numbers of them wander around on the street now, often floating in and out of the “justice” system to boot.
I will tell you this. Prior to the 5150 law here in CA, they had literal dungeons for “nutcases.” It was very easy to commit someone for even minor eccentricities. it was used to ditch certain family members, wives and children, old folks, etc. The places were brutal and the “treatments” were Mengele like. Reducing the abuse of this system was an unmitigated good. I had family friends who were veterans of the “state hospital” system. It was evil incarnate.
Fair enough. I don’t have any answers. I’m getting sick of stories of some of them pushing people in front of trains or cutting them or knocking them out with bricks, though. And the follow-up is always some clusterfuck of cycling in and out of jail.
Exactly. So instead of calling them nutcases, we now call them criminals. The evil incaranate hasn’t been reduced a bit. Instead of enabling family members to ditch people into mental homes, we have family members sic the police on them and get them into “justice” system instead of the “mental health” system.
And the mental health system was not dismantled, just the hospitals. We now call them psych wards. These are suposed to be short-term stays, but Illinois has a current problem of people (including kids) being in them for 2+ years without getting out. And the current excuse is “coronavirus”.
My version of libertarianism – I thought you was ancap
Nice. That’s how you do it.
Alright, signing off for today. SF, Bravo! I hope you fine people live well and prosper. Imma go eat some quesadillas and fart meself into the Land of Nod.
Night, Festus!
“This is unsurprising. I’m just shocked the mayor demanded the reforms.”
I’d be interested in seeing the reforms, but I doubt they’d look like anyone around this place thinks they should look like.
I know you are a partisan hack, Juan, but jeez.
“It is [a distraction],” Williams agreed. “The real trouble here is between the Palestinians and the Israelis, and that situation has not been helped. What we’re doing here in this situation is we have the Bahrainians and the United Arab Emirates, they already had diplomatic, security, and trade ties with Israel … and it opens the door to some possibilities.”
Williams continued, “The real action here is the United States giving arms, giving serious arms, to UAE potentially to go after the Iranians. And so what we’re doing is stirring up a proxy war, and that doesn’t diminish the chance of war or disruption in the Middle East — it accelerates it.”
He also seemed to suggest that the peace deals were simply election season theatre. “We have to note that it’s taking place in the midst of an intense American election and that’s what’s going on at the White House. I don’t think anybody is fooled by it. There certainly is reason for hope, but let’s not fool ourselves.”
Dude gave Trump props for a fireworks show but is negative about the prospect of bettering relations in the middle-east.
“The real trouble here is between the Palestinians and the Israelis, and that situation has not been helped.”
Well whose fault is that? The Palestinians need to reject Hamas. As long as they are represented by people who want to eradicate Israel, they’re going to be left behind while the Arab world mostly moves on. You lost the civil war, your compatriots lost the two subsequent wars, you’ve managed to get Israel to disengage from direct administration, the next logical step is to accept Israel’s existence, obtain peace, and get trade flowing again. But to do that you have to give up your desire to push the Israelis into the sea.
The Palestianians have hurled rocks and rockets at every attempt to bridge the gap for the last 25 years.
That is what our journoclass is worried about. As more Arab nations begin to recognize Israel, more are going to look at Palestine with a lot more critical eye as the bad egg in the ME basket.
The Arab nations never gave a shit about the Palestinians. They were just useful for rallying their own people against an “enemy” so their people would not revolt against their government.
The Palestinians made the mistake of thinking that their utility to the greater Arab world was permanent and not something that could go away.
Not just recognize but sign treaties/trade agreements with Israel. If those same countries turn off the money and propaganda spigots, the Palis are going to be sucking wind.
“The Palestianians have hurled rocks and rockets at every attempt to bridge the gap for the last 25 years.”
Yes, but they are victims, so we must always unthinkingly take their side. /every lefty/prog/democrat in the USA
They are victims of a guy named Mo who’s been dead for over 1300 years.
Now you’ve done it, went and incited a jihad. All at the snackbar!
Well whose fault is that? – there probably is some fault on both sides… but mostly on the Hamas side
Yes, it’s fair to say Israel is not blameless. But they made a lot more strides and been a lot more willing to negotiate than the other side, even with Netanyahu’s harder stance.
In terms of intervention, giving the less bad regional power the means to counter the more bad is pretty benign Seems like about a 3 on a scale of 1 to glassing Tehran. If we must muck around there are worse ways to do so.
Democrats hate it when people decide to leave the plantation.
Lining themselves up fully in support of Iran was not the smartest thing the Donks could have done.
Moving away from the rhetoric and building an alliance against Iran is much more palatable to me. We tried the sanctions, covert ops, and generally threatening them.
My guess, Iran will announce nuclear capability in the next 6 months and that is what we are using to get all these Arab state to come on board. Just my observation.
You misspelled “Sunni” as “Arab”.
Lauren Babic is currently my most favorite thing on youtube.
Babic round these parts is a spicy sausage… the dry salami type that you eat as a cold cut, not the kind you cook.
Good taste in firearms, awful taste in music. That is ok, none of us are perfect.
Good vocalist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB2i4gbxUJI
that does not sound like the music all the cool kids listen too
I was never a ‘cool’ kid.
She has a lovely voice, but the music doesn’t do it for me. I mean, I don’t dislike it, but I don’t like it either.
Try this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMbbTQrC41o
I am just teasing you. Keep including pistols/steak photos and. you are on my favorites list.
Better.
Maybe we can find some middle ground.
As of last week, i put steak & sidearms on hold until after the election. I may change my mind. I’m watching to see how weird things get.
Made me want to listen some Richard Cheese, here he is covering Number of the Beast.
Bluegrass, from Norway. Mind blown.
Whitmer furiously takes notes.
The rules restrict indoor and outdoor gatherings in England and Scotland, and indoor groups in Wales.
The new measures mean police can break up groups larger than six, with fines of up to £3,200 if people flout the rules.
Speaking to BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Ms Patel said that two families of four stopping for a chat on the way to the park was “absolutely mingling”.
“You have got to put this in the context of coronavirus and keeping distance, wearing masks,” she said.
“The rule of six is about making sure that people are being conscientious and not putting other people’s health at risk.”
The home secretary added: “Mingling is people coming together. That is my definition of mingling.”
Time to spiff up the Tower of London, install new locks, and start using it for British politicians.
Or you could put the coronovirus into context, but that would show you to be a pants-shitting whacko.
Hope she doesn’t see this.
– Shane Patton, Victorian Chief Police Officer
Is jury nullification an antipodian thing?
All this based on laughably tiny numbers. Something dark is going on there and the tyranny seems aimed more at sweeping it under the rug than at “health” or “safety”.
+1 Plandemic
“hey weren’t adhering to the chief health officer’s guidelines, they weren’t providing their name and their address.”
That doesn’t sound Orwellian, at all.
I remember watching some otherwise funny Australian comic crowing about how Australia’s ban on guns was a Good Thing.
Hmm, disarm the populace, followed by a reign of terror. Coincidence, surely.
I had the same experience watching Gad Elmaleh on Netflix. Funny French guy, his English is good, and he knows how to work a crowd. But of course there was the obligatory “health care is free in France” “joke” which got raucous applause from the urban chic sophisticate audience of a Netflix special.
“FREE. There is no such thing as free. I don’t care what it is, somewhere someone is paying for it. Don’t use that word in my class. I don’t give a damned how well you do on the tests, I will fail you if you use that word in my class. ” – Econ 101 professor circa ’83.
France actually in some ways has a better system than we do. You can get a lot of things in the pharmacy there that require a doctor’s visit here. But like all the things, the devil is in the details and as you note TANSTAAFL.
He was funny in Midnight in Paris. I don’t think he had any lines though.
Aussies are puzzling to me. In many ways they are more American than many Americans I know, yet they put up with this shit?
I know, I know….I went to the grocery yesterday and nearly everyone was wearing a diaper on their face yet they didn’t dare say anything to me about not wearing one.
Crocodile Dundee is rolling in his grave
1) Aussies didn’t have to violently throw off the Brits. If you look at countries like that (UA, Canada to name two), they don’t have robust gun cultures. If you look at countries that did have to throw off their colonial oppressors violently (US, much of South America, some parts of Africa and Asia) they either have a robust gun culture, or an oppressive indigenous government suppressing their gun rights.
2) They have had issues with their indigenous neighbors, but for the most part euro-descended Australians are pretty culturally (and racially) heterogeneous. That leads to less social distrust and anti-government instinct.
3) Their government is much smaller than ours, outside of a few areas. I talked with one guy who was able to convince the PM to repeal a stupid law because he ran into him surfing and bent his ear a bit. there are like 12 reasons this could never happen in the Home of the Brave and the Land of the Free.
To which I would add there is much more of a divide between, for want of better terms, the ruling class and the rest. Although that had changed say, post-1970, and I am sure has changed even more in the last 30 years, I suspect it is still there.
One example would be policing. In the US, policing emerged from community-appointed/elected people like constables & sheriffs. In Australia, police emerged from the army troops who were sent to guard the convicts. I grew up in a white middle-class home and we never thought of the cops as servants or peace officers. They were always an opposition force, aligned with the people in power. Not violent resistance but just low-grade antipathy (not helped in my home state by massive corruption).
You would think that would bring resistance, but decades of that mentality actually reinforces a kind of “can’t fight city hall” thought process where you endure shit hoping for a better day. Or an election where the party of the working class comes to power. Of course, when that happens, they inevitably sell out.
“Speaking to BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Ms Patel said that two families of four stopping for a chat on the way to the park was “absolutely mingling”.”
Fuck this lady. Seriously. Get bent, Patel.
Diversity-Related Training: What Is It Good For?
https://heterodoxacademy.org/diversity-related-training-what-is-it-good-for/
Absolutely nothing
It’s perfectly good for turning people into a mindless herd that obeys.
Musa al-Gharbi has just been cancelled.
Advancing the Marxist goals they were designed for?
providing decision makers with something they can point to it if they get sued for some sort of harassment or discrimination lawsuit.
See 90% of all “training” in corporate/NGO/government settings
Seems like for us to get some badly needed rain here in Austin this time of year – in this case a measly 0.2 inches projected – the Gulf Coast has to get slammed.
So, if Yahweh actually listened and granted prayers, Christians in Austin devoutly praying for rain are responsible for inflicting destruction on the coast.
Thanks, guys!
DARMOK AND JALAD AT TANAGRA. SHAKA, WHEN THE WALLS FELL….
Deciphering Biden speak…
That links to a 401k article from 09. Is that what you meant to?
This freaking site is messing with Linux from my iPad it seems.. here ya go.
https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/09/16/i-have-deciphered-bidenspeak/
You run Linux on an iPad?
Defund the dons: why we need a new approach to higher education
https://capx.co/defund-the-dons-why-we-need-a-new-approach-to-higher-education/
While the average returns to a degree are positive – British graduates see an increase in net lifetime earnings of about 20% compared to similar non-graduates – they do not tell the full story. Between fees, taxes, and lost earnings from three years spent on a combination of drinking, partying, and occasionally attending a lecture for a lark, roughly one in five undergraduates see a negative return on their degree.
Students who don’t benefit from their studies pop up everywhere, but a quick look at average outcomes suggest that they’re likely to be concentrated in certain categories. If you look at the return to a degree, philosophy, English, and sociology all fall well below average.
Alexis de Tocqueville wrote that a society could produce “a very polished, but a very dangerous” group of citizens by giving them “a sense of wants which their education would never teach them to supply”.
My son called me during his senior year at LSU.
“Dad, I am coming home. This is a waste of my time.”
Me- “Uh….you only have one semester left. Are you sure you want to do that?”
“Yes, I am sure. This really is a waste of time.”
He now owns his own business, makes six figures per year and employs 16 staff.
—–> Every one of the staff he employs have a masters degree <——-
Every one of them. Masters Degrees.
Waste of time indeed.
I think there are degrees (no pun intended) to which getting a college degree is beneficial vs. not getting one. Generally speaking, getting a degree won’t teach you work ethic. If you have little to none, your chances of obtaining success with a degree (never mind completing the degree itself) are lower. Getting a degree that doesn’t line up with a specific form of employment, or at least a range of employment, is also less likely to lead to success. English is a fine field of study, when it isn’t overwhelmed by Marxist claptrap, but it is also a form of study for personal enrichment rather than professional development. Don’t spend $100-300k on personal enrichment thinking it improves your employability.
On the other hand, for many professions, a college degree is effectively a requirement, and if you are able to obtain one, that’s 4–6 years sort-of wasted vs. the 30+ you’ll be spending making a decent income having gotten past the HR filter by having the degree. The viability of this approach decreases with the more time that one has to spend in academia, however. Needing a PhD and postgraduate work before you can be hired anywhere is a 10–15-year burden as opposed to 4–6. Needing a master’s degree is not as severe but still not great. The real problem here is the requirement to have the degree. Unless you are working a principal researcher or similar high-falutin tightly-coupled-to-academia job, the actual need for a degree is low. I’ve often observed that, on any given programming team, you need at most 1 person with a BS in Computer Science, if only to give a theoretic grounding to the answer to the occasional “which data structure or algorithm do I use here” question, and even then that assumes the guy with the BS paid attention and remembers. Informal on-the-job training (mostly self-training, with the occasional nudge by senior professionals) is much more useful in general than formal education for the day-to-day work. Formal education, in theory, gives you the necessary tools and a starting place but at the same point so much other crap is crammed into the process (captive audience and all that) that I’d say even for “good” degrees about half your time and money is wasted, and that’s without room and board.
I think college evolved the same way all other long-lived human institutions have tended to.
A good idea becomes an expectation. An expectation becomes a mandate. A mandate becomes an opportunity. An opportunity becomes a system. A system becomes its own antithesis.
See: saving for retirement is a good idea, leading to the existence of Social Security, eventually leading to people not saving for retirement; or creating a civic society is a good idea, leading to the creation of the welfare state, eventually leading to people not forming civic societies; getting a solid education is a good idea, leading to public schools, eventually leading to people not getting educated; etc.
So if I’m hearing you correctly, a person is smart, people are fucking retarded.
“Chinese database details 2.4 million influential people, their kids, addresses, and how to press their buttons
Compiled using mostly open-source intel, shines a light on extent of China’s surveillance activities
A US academic has revealed the existence of 2.4-million-person database he says was compiled by a Chinese company known to supply intelligence, military, and security agencies. The researcher alleges the purpose of the database is enabling influence operations to be conducted against prominent and influential people outside China.”
https://www.theregister.com/2020/09/15/china_shenzhen_zhenhua_database/
Everyday, I come closer to realizing Phillip K. Dick and Alex Jones are perfectly sane.
contemplating going slightly mad yourself? might be good for your mental health
I bet I’m in there as a button, since my brother used to be a consultant to the military when the fed gov accidently leaked everything about everyone with secret and top secret clearance.
I hope I’m a listed as having a really robust mechanical switch with good haptic feedback, like a fine Sanwa OBSF.
“Squishy, with little effect.”
Senpai noticed me… and it felt bad.
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1306587616532283394
I don’t want to jump to conclusions, but he seems a bit partisan.
There is no seems here…
relevant question.
https://twitter.com/BrittniiSundae/status/1306445086394404865
I’m not sure which option, but I do know the bill would be pointed toward the back.
“So many people who stage protests about how masks are such a great burden and intrusion do so while still accepting that they should stage the protests while wearing pants.”
https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/1306429644250525696
Mark Twain used to write for the Atlantic, now there is this hammer head.
The required brevity of Twitter reduces even geniuses to idiots.
Something that stupid has to be the Atlantic. I knew before I even read that last sentence.
Marguerite Louise d’Orléans was sent to a convent when she separated from her husband, Cosimo III de’Medici. When the Abbess complained about her taking lovers, gambling and partying, Marguerite chased her through the convent with a hatchet in one hand and a pistol in the other.
https://twitter.com/MadameGilflurt/status/1306569084759420928
Fuck commie Pope! Bring back the Medicis. They may have been corrupt, but they were corrupt capitalists, not commies!
But communism is trending on Twitter!
I’m sick of all this Day Walker privilege being bandied about in these convos about DST. Let’s move 10am DST to 10pm. /third shift worker.
The one thing I learned when I worked graves was that there are 24 hours in a day.
My clock is broken, it says there are 25.
Only on the day the clock falls back.
“Watch: Australians Chant “Freedom!” As COVID Riot-Cops Shut-Down Food Market“
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-australians-chant-freedom-covid-riot-cops-shut-down-food-market
Serious off-roading.
Sees RT, ‘Sean is a traitor to this country who is controlled by the Russians!” /Main stream journalist who appeared on RT before 2016, when it was good and pure and had Larry King and in no way was Russian State propaganda.
*ponders stock of Com-Bloc stuff*
I don’t understand. Why would one want to leave the socialist accepting paradise of France within the EU for a barbaric country that told the EU goodbye?
‘Just God, the water and us’: Risking the English Channel ‘death route’ to Britain
Boris’ Hat calls them Wet Hammer and Tack.
It’s right there in the story, the EU doesn’t give you anything
Good luck getting a job in France. Those jobs belong to Frenchmen and they will shut down the entire country’s infrastructure to keep it that way. Without taking a position on illegal migration, he’s not wrong. If you’re really lucky, you can become a ward of the German state, but otherwise you’re SOL in the EU, just another number in a camp that everybody feels sympathy for but doesn’t actually want to integrate into society.
I’ve been waiting for this ever since the diesel scandal.
Scoop: Rimac set to acquire Bugatti
Something, something, government control. I wonder how long til Eastern Europe plus or minus Italy and Czechia say fuck it we’re out.
A future that no one but bureaucrats, technophiles and people that don’t drive want.
I’m going to do an omnibus response to two threads above, so forgive me, because I think we may be missing one other aspect of this.
1. straff’s comment about “corrupt version of capitalism” – I don’t mean this as pedantry, but I think it matters that what you’re describing (those “left behind’) especially in the specific instance of the college loan debacle – is in no way capitalism. I don’t want to start a flame war, but I’ll just say that IMO capitalism isn’t a system that was designed and handed down by Adam Smith. The term is entirely descriptive and in no way proscriptive, hence why I believe ‘free markets’ are a better descriptor of what we all advocate for. The people who have been left behind have been left behind because of socialism and/or their own failings. Full stop. Which leads me directly to…
2. The two biggest problems facing politicians who are fighting the disease that is socialism on Team Red are, first and foremost and jointly, that the socialists own the mouthpieces of public discussion (the Media that most people consume) AND the institution of public education. Which is to say, the socialists own the minds of the kids and the message gets reinforced over and over and over again their whole lives. It infects even those of us who know what it’s doing in subtle ways that we don’t even detect, particularly in framing issues. Par example, you calling the education system and the people left behind the victims of “corrupt… capitalism.” It isn’t capitalism at all, yet you’ve already conceded that ground intellectually without even knowing it. Maybe it was just you being loose with language, you’ll say, but even that is a byproduct of what I’m talking about. In a system of genuinely educated citizens, you would never use those terms – at all – to describe what we’re seeing. That’s part of how they bend reality to their desired outcome.
I don’t think we disagree on first principles, though I don’t want to presume too much. But if we’re going to give those “left behind” the benefit of the doubt while they’re burning and breaking shit and harming innocents, then we ought to be talking seriously about root causes and how to fix those tout de suite. And we should be as intellectually honest as we demand of others and extend the benefit of the doubt to those fighting this socialist plague who don’t understand the root causes and know only that the socialists are the bad guys. IOW, they may be on the right side for the wrong reasons (likely), but at least they’ve got that much correct. They need to be educated about how we got here and how they may have even contributed to it, but we should start from a place of what we agree upon with those people, not what we don’t.
IMO, that last part has been the central failing of libertarians – spending too much time quibbling over every last doctrinal jot and tittle with even those who agree with us, rather than starting at a place of common ground and working on telling the hard truths as we build some cred with those folks. That’s how peace is made, as well, btw, and hats off to the negotiators who managed to get countries in the Islamic world to start from a place of common ground, rather than on exacerbating the differences (between Muslims and Jews, for example).
The left can’t meme, the right can’t fight and libertarians can’t sell.
Good stuff, Ozy.
Might make for a decent article.
Or, what you said, far more succinctly than I.
Regarding #2, I would say let’s take a piece from psychology and the art of gaslighting:
When you change the language, it’s a subtle change. As many people know, pointing out the individual actions of a narcissist gaslighting you, gets you looked at as if you’re crazy. They’re normal things, done under normal circumstances, with no evidence at all that the narcissist is out for evil, ESPECIALLY if the narcissist is a convincing actor (they usually are). Dwell on any one individual action too much and the rational persona will start to think he himself is crazy. That is the essence of gaslighting.
When you say, “You’re ceding ground without even realizing it,” that’s true, but I think it’s sort of inevitable. The narcissist drags you into his world, created and defined by his motives, and you really have no choice but to go along if you want to interact–and I say “want to” because at first, a rational person sees nothing untoward and this is a person with whom he has a relationship.
In this case, the media and educational institutions are non-negotiable. There is no “want to”. You just must. There is not and never will be a critical mass of people who say, “Okay, look, this is bullshit; we’ve put up with your slippery slopes you assured us were not, and turned out we were right. Fuck you.” The few who do will secrete themselves away and have nothing further to do with it. They’ll go gray rock.
So to try to fight, one must use the same language to win the hearts and minds of those still in the narcissist’s world. And that’s when you lose the fight altogether.
You can’t defeat a narcissist. They’re crazy-making. And all these people are one critical-mass narcissist, gaslighting (yes, I mean that, not “deceit”) rational people who know SOMETHING is wrong and feel that SOMETHING is wrong, but can’t articulate it and have been convinced they are crazy and not rational.
I’m thinking of an 80s-era short film I saw when I was a kid and now can’t find, although HM found it for me once (I didn’t save the link). Post Soviet takeover of the US, a teacher comes into a classroom and instructs the children to cut up an American flag. There’s one holdout. She gradually, gently, RATIONALLY explains to the holdout that it’s HIS flag, he’s loyal to it, and therefore, cutting it is an act of respect. He, being a child, can be led by this logic. It’s too simplistic for an adult, but by the time the children become adults, it’s been inculcated in their heads and they grow up receptive to such manipulation.
We can say “free markets” in place of “capitalism” (that is not capitalism at all), but our interlocutors are going to hear “capitalism” and they are going to make the mental leap to “evil capitalism” and not “corrupt capitalism.”
The Children’s Story?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRrQQYB6Nd4
YES YES YES! Thank you. Trust the Glibertariat to know the answer.
The one thing people that hate hate hate capitalism want so desperately is capital. Capital comes in many forms. Position and money are forms of capital, as are trustworthiness and a work ethic But position and money are fragile, fleeting forms of capital that come from without. Trustworthiness and work ethic are lasting forms but they come from within. The peple who prefer one type over the other tend to flock with their like-minded tribe. Finding a common ground between them is difficult, but it probably requires more calmness than aggression.
Written much better than I could.. Thanks Ozy.
I will quibble with one thing: there is no common ground. People like us are starting from a base of logic and reason, socialists start from a base of emotion. Team Red’s problem is that they always are willing to jump to the emotion side in order to be on common ground, and the othe team correcty sees this as the beginning of surrender.
The question is what do you do when the other side initiates aggression. I think this is where The Art Of War comes in, but perhaps Game Theory is just as good.
People like us are starting from a base of logic and reason,…
Not really. Everyone thinks they are starting there. Everyone is wrong.
Persuasion is guiding someone else to common ground. It takes time and sometimes it just isn’t doable. The best at this art are able to divine who the most likely persuadees will be and concentrate their efforts there. Young salespeople (and the LP) either think everyone is their target, or they completely misread the person and starts their fucking pitch before they even attempted to learn anything.
I don’t think I’ve ever met a soul who wouldn’t benefit from sales training. Especially if you want to fight long-held and emotional beliefs.
Lies!
‘Logic’ and ‘reason’ are tools for people who are lacking THE TRUTH to show them the way.
Yes, thank you. Capitalism is the natural state of people who are decent. There’s always criminals who take what they want/need, and authoritarians who force others to work on their behalf. Capitalism is for people who want to get along and cooperate with others.
My take: free markets generate surplus value, which is what we call “capital” or at least financial capital. Capitalism is what allows the people who generate/capture that surplus value via consensual dealings to deploy it via further consensual dealings. Its a subcategory of free markets.
Or, if you prefer a more historical approach, I believe it is a term invented by Marxists to divide “capitalists” who don’t “work” from laborers, who do “work”.