Tuesday Morning Links

by | Sep 15, 2020 | Daily Links | 429 comments

Good morning my Glibs and Gliberinas!  And what a beautiful morning it always is!

 

Judge rules PA pandemic restrictions unconstitutional.

 

WI supreme court rules county officials cannot stop private schools from holding in-person classes.

All I want for Christmas, Mr. Durham, is to see John Brennan cry, is that too much to ask?

 

I don’t want rumors, I want results.

 

DHS bans certain products from Xinjiang region of China claiming they are linked to labor camps.

 

Appeals court rules Trump can phase out Temporary Status Protections for people from El Salvador, Haiti, Nicaragua and Sudan.

 

Trump outpacing Biden in small donors, Biden leads with among big donors.

 

Pompeo claims that we are the pathway of having zero troops in Afghanistan by spring.

 

It’s ok to be anti kid fucking.

 

That’s all I got for today.  I’ll leave you with a song and move along with my day.

About The Author

Banjos

Banjos

Wife of sloopy, mother to three bright, curious, and highly active young girls. Perpetually exhausted.

429 Comments

  1. Tres Cool

    “Wisconsin Supreme Court Rules County Officials Cannot Stop Private Schools From Holding In-Person Classes”

    ex-wife and card-carrying union Public School Teacher hardest hit

    mornin’

    • Festus' Mustache

      Ooooh! That’s gotta be tasty!

    • Banjos

      Mornin’

  2. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I find it somewhat disingenuous to call a backlash against a film a “moral panic” when people are kneeling in public begging for forgiveness for the actions of their ancestors and seeking absolution of their ancestral guilt.

    • Rhywun

      Slate gonna Slate.

      • cyto

        Yeah… Moral panic? “This movie is repugnant and possibly child porn” is a strong reaction.. but hardly a panic.

        Moral panics are when people run around finding monsters under every bed. This is one movie that offends most people. Pretty much the antithesis of a moral panic.

    • Idle Hands

      kind of can’t believe I’m here for the dethrones of our civilization.

      • Festus' Mustache

        It was gonna happen one day, may as well be now.

  3. Rebel Scum

    ‘Mornin.

    I don’t want rumors, I want results.

    I’m not holding my breath.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      This is the exact timeline of events required for an October surprise to end all October surprises. It’s also the exact timeline of events required for a compromised investigation to quietly wrap itself up by demand of president Biden in January.

      • R C Dean

        No October surprise from Durham. They go into lockdown on these kinds of investigations 60 days before the election.

        Purely a coincidence that this also lets them avoid embarrassing their new boss, depending on the election results.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Yeah, and one of these days Charlie Brown is gonna kick that 56 yarder for the win And pitch a no-hitter. I have the sneaking suspicion that it will be more like when good ole Chuck finally broke 100 in bowling and his name was misspelled on the trophy. Charles Braun.

    • Banjos

      Mornin’

  4. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Reports suggested, though, that Dannehy’s departure came amid concerns that the team investigating alleged misconduct at the origins of the Trump-Russia probe was being pressed by top Justice Department officials to produce a report on its findings before their full review was completed, for political purposes.

    And?

    Is it better for the probe to take its time and only produce results after the point at which it no longer really matters?

    • Overt

      Yes. And FWIW, why did they need to do this Big Bang investigation anyways? There were about 60,000 different smoking guns here. Had they spent the last 2 years rendering these down to three or four reports of different aspects of the investigation, they’d have been in a much better place right now. As it is, they are in danger of alerting us all that we ought to close the barn doors after the horses were sighted on Palm Beach during spring break.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Were the horses wearing masks and properly distancing? Tell me more about the monkey butlers!

  5. Rebel Scum

    Trump outpacing Biden in small donors, Biden leads with among big donors.

    And Bloomberg is going to spend $100 million to buy Florida. But something something big money in politics.

    • juris imprudent

      As it always is with progs – do as we say, not as we do.

  6. robc

    My Father passed away at 9:45 last night. Not a surprise, its been a long time coming, he has been in hospice since last Wednesday. So if I disappear for a while (probably not today, but starting later this week) it is not JUST because I hate you guys. It was not covid related, but I have a rant related to that that I might type out next week or two, but now is not the time.

    Also, since sloopy isnt around, two sports items:

    1. Happy birthday, Gaylord Perry!
    2. So far, no draws in the premier league. Only 8 matches, but still.

    • Surly Knott

      I’m sorry for your loss.

    • invisible finger

      Sorry for your loss robc. Make sure you get your rest, you are in for a stressful couple of weeks.

    • Tundra

      Very sorry to hear that, robc. All the best to you and your family.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Sorry man. You have my condolences.

      And you only hate us because we’re beautiful.

    • Sean

      robc, I’m very sorry for your loss.

    • Chipwooder

      Very sorry to hear that, Rob. All the best to you and your family.

    • Drake

      Sorry – hope the covid nonsense doesn’t mess up family gathering plans.

    • TARDis

      Sorry for your loss.

    • Overt

      Sorry to hear that, Robc.

    • Gender Traitor

      So sorry. Been there, done that with my mother. If it’s been a long time coming, it may be, as I found, a combination of grief and relief.

    • Fourscore

      What the others said, robc.

      The memories you shared with your Dad will last forever, that’s both the good part and the sad part.

    • Rhywun

      Sorry 🙁

    • PieInTheSky

      Sorry for your loss.

    • Tres Cool

      Sorry for you loss. I dealt with Mama Tres in Hospice, due to pancreatic cancer. I know too well how it goes.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      I’m sorry to hear about your loss. My condolences.

    • Apples and Knives

      So sorry, robc.

    • Count Potato

      Sorry 🙁

    • Tulip

      So sorry.

    • Pope Jimbo

      So sorry to hear this.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Ah shit, Sean. That’s terrible. My condolences to you and your loved ones. Regarding Gaylord, I actually got to see him pitch in the only MLB game that I’ve ever attended.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Gah. I meant RobC, of course…

      • pan fried wylie

        RIP Sean Reed

    • BakedPenguin

      Sorry to hear, rob. I went through that, I know what it’s like.

    • Mojeaux

      Oh robc, I am so sorry. Godspeed, Dad.

    • Tejicano

      Robc, I am sorry to hear this. I have been in the same place and even when it is expected for a while the loss is still real. Remember that he is no longer in any pain.

    • Cancelled

      Sorry for your loss.

    • juris imprudent

      Sorry for you loss robc.

      • juris imprudent

        wth? your

    • tarran

      My condolences.

    • AlexinCT

      Loss is always painful, especially since life never feels inclined to slow down or stop to let us adjust. Wishing you strength in these trying times.

    • ttyrant

      Sorry to hear, robc.

    • Banjos

      My condolences.

    • Pine_Tree

      Sorry for your loss robc.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Sorry for your loss robc.

    • db

      Sorry for your loss. Expected or no, it’s never easy.

    • mrfamous

      Condolences Robc

    • Sensei

      Belated (by Gilb posting time) condolences.

      • Annoyed Nomad

        Me too. Sorry for your loss, robc.

    • blighted_non_millenial

      Sorry for your loss, robc.

    • Gdragon

      Sorry to hear that robc, my condolences. Hope that everything goes OK.

      Also, Fritz Ostermueller’s family have made contact and they can’t believe the disrespect he is being shown 😉

    • Agent Cooper

      My condolences.

    • Banjos

      Mornin’ UnCiv

  7. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Tard Tuesday: Fever Dreams

    I cannot believe that people are even entertaining a discussion on
    what happens when the Con loses. He will either walk out of the WH or be dragged out. And his fucking goon supporters will either be shot or locked up. It’s either that or the entire rule of law and democracy project has been an abject and complete farce.

    What do DUers think the response would have been if Obama had suggested that he run for a third term?
    We’d still be singing Strange Fruit.

    • EvilSheldon

      Well, the entire rule of law and democracy project *HAS* been an abject and complete farce…

    • juris imprudent

      And his fucking goon supporters will either be shot or locked up.

      No progjection there, no sirree, none at all.

    • Agent Cooper

      “suggested that he run for a third term?”

      Sigh. Take him seriously or what’s the other option?

  8. Tundra

    Good morning, Banjos!

    Fabulous lynx this morning. Tyrannical governors and bureaucrats slapped down, maybe an end to the endless war and tone-deaf lefties. What else could you hope for?

    I’d love to see some of the shitheads drop from the Durham investigation, but the cynical little voice inside of me says no chance. The rot is too deep.

    Hey! That’s a perfect lead in to my musical selection of the day!

    Have a great day, peeps! It will piss off the proggies.

    • Drake

      I was happy to see that was a Federal Judge – maybe there is hope that the ruling applies to NJ as well after Wolf losses his appeal. This Governor = Dictator stuff is way overboard.

    • Banjos

      Mornin’

  9. Rebel Scum

    Pompeo on Afghan Peace Talks: ‘We’re on a Pathway to Achieve’ Zero U.S. Forces in Afghanistan by Spring 2021

    I assume that is why John Bolton said this.

    Anchor Wolf Blitzer asked, “Lieutenant Colonel Vindman also told The Atlantic magazine President Trump is in his words, Vladimir Putin is a useful idiot. Do you agree with that characterization?”

    Bolton said, “Well, that’s Vladimir Lennon’s phrase to describe capitalists that don’t understand what the communists are up to. In the same article, he used the phrase free chicken’s just chicken that comes to you. Trump is Putin’s free chicken. I think that’s a pretty good assessment, actually .”

    He added, “My own view was that Trump just despised any indication that somehow Russia had influenced his election in 2016 because he felt it would delegitimize it. I thought that was the wrong way to approach it. Russia tried to intervene, the president should have stood up to it, but he was simply in denial of it because he thought it would undercut his current position. As far as him being a useful idiot in the communist sense, it is a statement that the person involved doesn’t fully understand the consequences of his actions, and I think that describes Donald Trump in many, many respects.”

    Drumpfler has insufficient explosions and American life and treasure spent in foreign quagmires. Clearly he is a tool of foreign autocrats and dictators.

    • Chipwooder

      Vladimir Lennon? hahahaha….who wrote this, Donnie from The Big Lewbowski?

      Walter: It’s like Lenin said, you look for the one who benefits, and….
      Donnie: I am the walrus.
      Walter:….uh, you know….
      Donnie: I am the walrus.
      Walter: Shut the fuck up Donnie! V.I. Lenin! Vladimir Illyich Ulyanov!

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Misspelling aside, “useful idiot” is not Lenin’s turn of phrase. von Mises coined it for the leftists pining and agitating for communism in capitalist countries.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Great pedant minds think alike!

  10. Rhywun

    It’s ok to be anti kid fucking.

    No one could have predicted the shit-show that would come of this.

    • UnCivilServant

      But it won awards.

      /Netflix

      • Certified Public Asshat

        The director is a woman and a poc, there’s no way she is a pervert.

      • Festus' Mustache

        I believe the proper spelling of that term is “prevert”. Judges?

      • invisible finger

        +1 Bat Guano

      • invisible finger

        Black Lechers Matter

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Since my comment appears to have been eaten by the squirrels….

      The GOP was looking for a good, traditional culture war issue for the election. Netflix coughed one up.

      All the Democrats had to do was ignore it or agree that the film was in poor taste or even exploitative.

      But nope, they went with “HOW DARE YOU? YOU UNEDUCATED, UNSOPHISTICATED TROGLODYTES!”

      Idiots

      • Rhywun

        Cats, laser pointers. Every time.

    • R C Dean

      I did like the observation that many of the people reflecting the idea that it’s inappropriAte to show show close ups of tweener crotches, butts, and misc. sexually suggestive poses, would be screeching about the male gaze if the performers were adults.

      • Festus' Mustache

        When I was a very young kid some perverted asshole came out with a book called “Show Me” that was basically child porn. All the “Sex Positive” nimrods back then said the exact same things and yet here we are, nearly fifty years later.

    • Idle Hands

      It’s hard to imagine just how many people have been completely and utterly broken by Trump and social media.

      • Festus' Mustache

        It’s tribes and teams. Most people seem to have forgotten about their individuality. Like that dumb fuck that fell off the police cruiser. Sure he was stupid but that doesn’t mean that I didn’t feel some empathetic pain when he hit the pavement. I refuse to group people into the “Other” if I can help it and I catch myself doing it more and more lately. Everyone except “Gordon Lightfoot” from last weekend. That one gets a pass.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Your jib. It has an attractive cut.

  11. Rebel Scum

    Is this real life?

    Joe Biden just touted the actions of “the Obama-Biden Administration” and said “this is just the beginning if we get re-elected.”

    • Tundra

      There seems to be great confusion throughout that entire campaign.

      The *Harris* Administration??

      The next couple months are gonna be interesting.

      • Rebel Scum

        Was about to post that. She slipped and said the quiet thing out loud.

    • Chipwooder

      He’s done this before, too, talking about Obama as the sitting president.

    • Idle Hands

      I really have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that the same people who have been saying the biggest issue facing this country is that Trump is mentally unfit to be in charge of the nuclear codes nominated that guy. Than I remember that projection is all the democrats have.

  12. PieInTheSky

    It’s ok to be anti kid fucking. – I say old enough for the Prophet Muhammad, old enough for me

    • UnCivilServant

      So they have to be about 1400 years old?

      • Gender Traitor

        A spring chicken in vampire years.

  13. Count Potato

    Good morning, Banjos

    • Banjos

      Mornin’

  14. Grummun

    having zero troops in Afghanistan by spring.

    *clicks link, reads Pompeo’s “three conditions”*

    Next spring my fuzzy behind, if we’re waiting for those behavioral changes, we’ll never leave Afghanistan.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Your last four words are accurate.

    • Sean

      “Conspiracy theories.”

    • Idle Hands

      people like that have forfeited their right to participate in our society and should be dealt with as one would deal with a rabid animal.

      • R C Dean

        The traditional notion of outlawry?

      • Drake

        Trump has the power to pardon – so he could proscribe these people à la Sulla.

  15. Rebel Scum

    Play stupid games…

    In Sacramento, CA outside a Trump event – somebody jumped on the hood of a police cruiser and they are now claiming that the police “ran him over”

    He took a tumble and smacked his face on the pavement. Don’t play in traffic, children.

  16. Nephilium

    Everything is fine…

    80% of Ohio restaurants don’t expect to break even in 2020.

    Who could have predicted that six months of lockdown and reduced capacity would crush an industry built around people getting together? I would like to see the number of restaurants that are generally profitable as a comparison though.

    • PieInTheSky

      It is their own fault they are bad at business. Capitalists don’t know how to run things.

    • Idle Hands

      this is kind of the tip of the iceburg.

      • Idle Hands

        lettuce reflect.

      • banginglc1

        lettuce reflect.

        He’s right, let’s not get to far a head of ourselves.

      • Gender Traitor

        Just can’t leaf it alone, can you?

      • Rhywun

        *kales of laughter*

      • Gender Traitor

        Where’s Swissy with his narrowed gaze? That’s the endive been waiting for.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s not like the fiery gaze leaves anyone more than a little chard.

      • juris imprudent

        He’ll turnip sooner or later.

      • Not Adahn

        With the panic, people just aren’t willing to put on a Bibb and eat anymore.

      • Nephilium

        Another takeaway point was about half were saying that if the restrictions continued through 2021, they would need to close. I read that about the only restaurants that are doing well through this were those that were already focused on take out (Chinese and Pizza locally), or fast food/quick service places.

      • Idle Hands

        the other 30% of mom and pops are in denial. Not to mention all the restaurants in cities that depend on the lunch crowd who are never going back to their offices.

      • robc

        I assume Cleveland has a wage tax of some sort that they would lose out on from people who live outside the city limits?

      • Nephilium

        All through Ohio actually. You pay income tax in the city you work in, and then the city you live in (usually with some amount of reciprocation as a credit for a portion). When the lockdowns and WFH ramped up, the state pushed a law through forcing businesses to continue the standard withholding as if people were working in the offices. There’s already a lawsuit about it, and IIRC, the law had a set time period before it expired.

      • robc

        Many KY cities and counties (but not all) had an occupational tax, that you paid where you worked. There was no local income tax. WFH is going to hurt some of them bad. When I was in BG, the difference between the BG city rate and the Warren County rate was pretty significant.

        None of that stuff here in South Carolina, but the state income tax is a bit higher than in KY. Net positive for me, but just barely.

      • Idle Hands

        It’s just hard to imagine the fact that the municipalities could be this blind to what’s going on. It’s not like the commercial real estate owners don’t get it, you would think they would have these people on speed dial.

      • robc

        Its not just Mom and Pops. The big chains are in the same situation, especially as franchises are mostly Mom and Pops. But even the corporate owned ones are failing all over. Some whole chains are going away.

      • invisible finger

        Yup. The deli at my office building just closed for good. Tenants are going to withhold rent when the promised amenities start going away. I was also reading the other day that Sears Tower is now averaging something like 75 people a day. A 100+ story office building. There’s no way the building owner can even afford the property taxes on that now. I think some companies will happily take the penalty on breaking their lease at this point so the building owners will have no choice but to renegotiate leases.

      • Drake

        The owner of my gym is hoping more people return when the weather turns. Right now he doesn’t have enough paying members to stay in business. Our favorite restaurant is too small to reopen with the restrictions. Some of the others are staying afloat with outdoor dining which might have a month left before it’s too cold. They are all going to get squeezed out of business by our Goldman Dictator if he’s allowed to continue this shit.

      • Swiss Servator

        *MASS NARROWED GAZE*

      • juris imprudent

        That would be a weapon of ocular obstruction!

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      When the original Macy’s in Minneapolis folded, the owners made a big hoopla of re-imaging the building. They spent buckets and buckets of money remodeling it, taking I don’t know, two years or something. The grand opening was scheduled to be summer of 2020. As the kids say, Big Oof.

      Project in Minneapolis clashes with new reality

      “There are no signed tenants. When you talk to people in real estate, nobody is signing anything right now,” said Brian Whiting, CEO of Chicago-based Telos Group, the partner of the Dayton’s development that led the planning and execution. “We were in the process of moving forward with several hundred thousand square feet of tenants when COVID hit. All of those tenants have put any decisions on real estate on hold.”

      Insult, meet injury.

      In addition to the unprecedented economic fallout from a global pandemic, the overhaul and relaunch of the former department store also comes weeks after rioters smashed windows and looted stores along Minneapolis’ Nicollet Mall and elsewhere downtown for a second time since May.

      The Dayton’s building was spared. The Nordstrom Rack store across the street was not. Its windows remain boarded.

      COVID, the killing of George Floyd and recent riots have “certainly reared [an] ugly head to hurt some of our leasing efforts downtown,” Conzemius said. “The impact of all of that remains to be seen.”

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      Please stop

  17. AlexinCT

    Trump outpacing Biden in small donors, Biden leads with among big donors.

    Party of the elite ruling class that thinks they should pander to the serfs while dividing & conquering them by making them lose perspective of how mediocre and downright stupid our credentialed inept elite ruling class with ambitions to become a hereditary aristocracy is with trifle like melanin content or made up genders.

    • pan fried wylie

      structural? genetic racism isn’t enough, now it’s cause their noses are wider, too?

  18. Fourscore

    How do we get out of this mess? Is there ever going to be a return to maskless?

    Governor(s) are gonna say “OK, time’s up, you can let the mask slip” If there is a best used by date why can’t we all just start today?

    At this point, life has to be a progression to the means, we have mutated so far below the means politically/”sciency” that the only direction is up.

    • Tundra

      Not as long as the Twin Cities remain the bastion of proggies. I have almost zero hope that this goes back to normal.

      • PieInTheSky

        If you don’t like it run for mayor and change things.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Who would want to be mayor of Minneapolis?

        I’d rather sit on a park bench and paddle my balls with a wooden spoon than have to deal with the crazies on the city council and proggie voters.

      • pan fried wylie

        a park bench anywhere but Minneapolis.

      • Drake

        Can’t you just declare a “state of emergency” and name yourself dictator? Worked for the governors.

      • PieInTheSky

        how much can you steal in one term without going to jail / Romanian mayoral question

      • Swiss Servator

        Chicago Mayors laugh at you…one term, ha!

        *plunder*

      • AlexinCT

        I have to tell you that based on the number of people putting up stupid proggie signs, I am certain, not because they care, but because they hope the crocodile will eat them last (and I say this because all 6 people I asked after feigning allegiance either alluded or outright admitted this was done to appease the mobs looking for virgins to throw into the volcano), that I see when I am walking around Minneapolis, that I seriously pity the rest of you in this state subjected to these peoples derangement.

        The funniest thing I have encountered are proggies that become indignant when you point to them that they have been exclusively running things for decades and are now telling us we are getting a whole lot of the bad things they claim the other side is responsible for. Man do they get angry too when I ask them about the definition of insanity.

        You would think people would wise up to the fact that all they are getting is lip service and buttfucked by the political class, but team politics seems to make them blind to this…

        Old habits and beliefs die hard.

      • Tundra

        Haha! Good one.

        I’d have to run for Governor and even then, we have been so thoroughly infected with progressivism, it might not make any difference who’s sitting in the Big Chair.

        We are and have been losing businesses to other states and even other countries. The ridiculous levels of taxation and bureaucracy, the mass importation of deadweight, the decline of the cities – we’re well and truly fucked.

        Minneapolis and St. Paul have been coasting on reputation for a long time. Eventually reality shows up and punches you in the nuts.

      • Pope Jimbo

        There is an economics PhD waiting for somebody who wants to track how many Minnesoda telecommuters decide that they can live in SoDak or NoDak now. Document the drain from the state.

        If my wife wasn’t adamant about living here (for the time being) I’d be pushing hard to move to Fargo. Given the boom in health care in Fargo, I’d be scared that the could lure the medical device companies there too.

        The real nut punches will be when the Fortune 500 companies start relocating their HQ’s. If I remember 3M almost moved to TX a while back.

    • Count Potato

      That does look ridiculous.

      • BakedPenguin

        Almost outnumbered by the SS .

      • Festus' Mustache

        Almost outnumbered by the bugs crawling over him if twitter feeds are to be believed.

  19. Count Potato

    “A 17-year-old girl shot a new father dead after he delivered a pizza to an abandoned house, according to court documents.

    Jaelynn Billups tried to rob Joshua Ungersma, 37, while he was delivering the pizza but shot him when he asked someone to call police in Lafayette, Indiana, witnesses alleged.

    Police found Mr Ungersma dead on North 16th Street on August 31 after there were reports of ‘shots fired’ at around 11.15pm.

    They also found the body of Billups’s boyfriend Alberto Vanmeter, 19, nearby with a Domino’s pizza box, two drinks and cash laying on the ground beside him.

    Mr Ungersma is believed to have shot Vanmeter in self-defence after the 19-year-old tried to rob him, after which Billups allegedly shot him at point blank range.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8734251/Girl-17-shoots-new-father-death-delivered-pizza-home-court-documents-reveal.html

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Who robs a pizza delivery guy?

    • EvilSheldon

      Yikes. Lafayette is a weird town, but this is off plumb even for them.

      • Swiss Servator

        Well, I’m standing on the corner of Lafayette
        State of Indiana
        Wondering where a city boy could go
        To get a little conversation
        Drink a little MD 20/20
        Catch a little bit of those Pizza Hut
        Delivering to deadly ground

  20. Idle Hands

    Tomorrow marks the 6 month anniversary of 15 days to slow the spread.

      • Count Potato

        I’m a bit surprised that hasn’t happened.

      • Idle Hands

        Apparently those crazy gun nuts just aren’t that crazy.

      • Count Potato

        Their wives probably won’t let them.

    • pan fried wylie

      what orangemanniversary is it?

    • Apples and Knives

      Did everyone save their postcard from Trump? I’ve still got mine.

      The 12th was the 6 month anniversary of my kids’ school getting shut down for ‘2 weeks.’ I remember saying to my co-workers as I was leaving the office, “Well, I guess I’ll see you guys in April.” And we had a big laugh at how long that would be.

    • Nephilium

      And no timeline or discussion for rolling back any of the restrictions. At the beginning, they would at least announce dates (which they later ignored), but they gave dates. Going of the current scar headlines of ~140,000 cases in Ohio, less then 2% of the population has had it. That’s not even going into false positives, and assumed cases.

      • Idle Hands

        There were never any metrics for success or to hold them to account.

      • Rhywun

        And/or the metrics that were proposed were simply ignored.

        See: the collapsing restaurant industry in NYC.

  21. Rebel Scum

    Facts Wishful thinking First.

    CNN’s
    @FareedZakaria: We need to prepare for a “deeply worrying scenario” on November 3 as mail-in ballots may delay the presidential election results. Will President Trump accept the outcome if Joe Biden wins?

    How about if the ballots are not at location to be tallied on election day then they are not valid. The end.

    • Chipwooder

      I am so very goddamned sick and tired of the bleating about “will Trump accept the outcome” from the very people who have never accepted the outcome of the 2016 election.

      • pan fried wylie

        the moment they were done speculating that Trump wouldn’t accept that outcome

    • Rhywun

      We need to prepare for a “deeply worrying scenario” on November 3 as mail-in ballots may delay the presidential election results.

      A “deeply worrying scenario” that you and your friends are counting on.

  22. Mojeaux

    @Ozy from ded thred:

    I was evaluating a case that involves a woman with an unusual form of demetia. She hoarded her feces.

    I watch Hoarders and that’s not unusual amongst those with that extreme of OCD, but sometimes it’s only because they don’t have working plumbing and can’t physically dispose of their waste.

    To my real point, though: One of the “stars” of that show said once, “We’re all just 5 bad decisions away from shitting in a bucket.”

    Now I will go read the links and comments.

    • invisible finger

      So we’re just 6 bad decisions away from shitting on the street.

      • Chipwooder

        Or Nancy Pelosi’s driveway

      • UnCivilServant

        That’s an awfully long commute for a poop.

      • pan fried wylie

        She doesn’t have residences that are conveniently located within shitting distance of most US citizens?

  23. Count Potato

    “Given the essential role of TMPRSS2 in #SARSCoV2 entry, higher nasal expression of TMPRSS2 may contribute to the higher burden of #COVID19 among Black individuals”

    https://twitter.com/JAMA_current/status/1304102350857154567

    The comments are retarded.

    • LJW

      “Rose Marie Leslie, MD
      @DrLeslie_MD
      ·
      Sep 12
      Replying to
      @JAMA_current
      Why are you spending the time and money on these studies instead of spending the time and money on fighting racism?”

      I hope she’s not really a MD.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I hope she’s not really a MD.

        Being a SJW and combating Systemic Racism is now a component of the medical entrance exam and is given equal weight to biology/physics/chemistry/ochem. It’s also becoming implemented as part of the curriculum in many medical schools. 100% serious.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        *medical school entrance exam… the MCAT

      • LJW

        The irony being is this study could in fact help with the treatment of black people, thus saving lives.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        In her case it stands for Mentally Deficient.

      • Rhywun

        Look, we can’t expect the world’s sports leagues to win the battle against racism all by themselves.

      • Chipwooder

        Rose Marie Leslie, MD
        @DrLeslie_MD
        Family Med Resident.
        Top 20 docs on Social Media.
        Tiktok.
        Health Ed.
        Social Justice.
        Black Lives Matter.
        Repro Health.

        As Bob Hope quipped in Spies Like Us, “Doctor, doctor…..glad I’m not sick!”

      • Not Adahn

        Top 20 docs on Social Media.

        That should be sufficient justification to have your license revoked.

    • Apples and Knives

      “Why are you spending the time and money on these studies instead of spending the time and money on fighting racism?”

      Mo’ money, mo’ problems.

    • PieInTheSky

      hmmmmm

    • Rebel Scum

      Karen Gibbins, MD
      @rayofdiana
      Sep 12
      Replying to
      @JAMA_current

      Attributing genetic variants to race (which is socially constructed) is racist. Stop.

      Another brilliant MD.

      • Gender Traitor

        “Sickle cell anemia is just a social construct.”

      • Cancelled

        I have formed a theory that overall levels of competence are roughly the same in all professions. When you are outside a group this is hidden by the use of jargon, various rote rituals controlling your access to the professional (engagement letters, intake forms, etc) add a mystique and your own lack of knowledge in the field hides the flaws, but once you get inside, if you are honest with yourself, you come to realize that 1. You are frequently at a loss, and are prone to error, and 2. You are not unique in that.

        TL:DR The Doctor treating you is no more competent at medicine than the guy filling the potholes is at road maintenance, and when you go to sue either one, your lawyer will be just the same.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Well, sure and at the the end of the day everyone of them just shrug their shoulders, “Can’t all be gems”. Plumbers, Physicists, Doctors and Janitors.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I have formed a theory that overall levels of competence are roughly the same in all professions.

        I think this is grading on a curve, though. It would be much easier to train the average road repairman to be a decent lawyer than to train the average lawyer to patch potholes well.

      • Cancelled

        The real test is when we train chimps to do both and track any change in complaints by the clients.

        “Bobo was fantastic! My old lawyer used to take 2 weeks to respond to me, and the response always included a statement showing 36 billable hours and $2000 for copying expenses. Bobo responded within 48 hours and never billed more than 8 hours in a day!”

      • kbolino

        Having met my fair share of road repairmen (though not as many lawyers), I would find that claim doubtful. I think you would find about equal measure of difficulty in either case. Cross-training a road repairman to similar work (excavating, pipe laying, surveying, etc.) is one thing, training him to a profession he has no experience in and likely also has contempt for, is another thing entirely.

      • UnCivilServant

        Well, we have to define what counts as a “Decent” lawyer. It’s easy to set objective standards for a good pothole patch (complete, even with roadbed, level, etc)

      • kbolino

        Well, a good pothole patch is defined as much by how it holds up months and years later. Though the same could be said of law, albeit on an even longer timeframe (the common law, like the Hapsburgs, forgets nothing and seems to learn nothing either).

      • UnCivilServant

        Law is not the measure of a lawyer.

      • Cancelled

        True, based on every conversation I have had with big firm associates, the measure of a lawyer is billable hours.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        likely also has contempt for

        This is step 1 in training a decent lawyer. The worst lawyers are the ones who go into law school with puppy dog eyes.

      • kbolino

        I think a healthy degree of skepticism and a heaping dose of contempt can seem like the same thing at times but they aren’t, really. The former is the mark of a good ____ and the latter is just know-nothingism.

      • R C Dean

        The worst lawyers are the ones who go into law school with puppy dog eyes.

        Yup. Because they want to be lawyers to Make the World a Better Place (and we all know what that means), not serve the interests of their clients.

      • Cancelled

        the latter is just know-nothingism.

        You are assuming that the state of the law does not merit this contempt, and that assumption is questionable to say the least. When 95% + of all criminal prosecutions end in a plea bargain, and it is factually impossible for a single human being to read all of the laws governing our Nation in a single lifetime, you have a profoundly broken system of law and justice. Contempt for the concepts of law and justice is no nothingism, contempt for the state of them is often rooted in a deep love for the concepts.

      • kbolino

        My statement is only in service of the point that it would not be any easier to train a road repairman to be a lawyer than the other way around. Much of the law deserves contempt, and some of the contempt that I witnessed was deserved, but a lot of it just boiled down to know-nothing, all education is a waste of time, everybody smarter than me is conspiring against me, willfull ignorance-cum-inferiority complex. Road repair still takes engineering and logistics, and the average grunt on a shovel does not care about the pencil pushers who make that happen any more than the average lawyer cares about how the law interacts with society.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I think a healthy degree of skepticism and a heaping dose of contempt can seem like the same thing at times but they aren’t, really.

        You’re right, and the contempt is important. I went into law school thinking “not all lawyers”. That evaporated when 90%+ were nodding along in ethics class when the prof was waxing poetic about the sacrificial virtue of the lawyer who won’t expose the guilt of their client even when the client tells them where the kidnapped girl is stashed.

        Fuck that. You can have my bar card if it comes down to that.

      • kbolino

        Black != of African descent (anymore)

        If Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, and Kamala Harris are all Black, then Black doesn’t have much to do with genetics. It is a cultural identity loosely tied to some degree of African ancestry.

        Now, it’s not really racist to make a claim like that. It is however imprecise. But I fear that if everyone along the chain insisted on greater precision, then they would be accused of being racist for not making the connection. So, it’s more of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation.

      • Chipwooder

        And Barack Obama’s background was no blacker than mine. He was raised by his well-to-do white grandparents in a Honolulu high-rise condo and attended a tony private school. The son of poor sharecroppers, he was not.

        Hey, you know who was the son of poor sharecroppers? Clarence Thomas, the guy all the leftists say isn’t an authentic black man.

      • UnCivilServant

        Shit, by those standards I had a more ‘black’ upbringing than Barack, and I’m the whitest person I know.

      • kbolino

        Yeah, the disparate treatment of Thomas vs. leftist blacks has been telling. The man’s first language is Gullah, for fuck’s sake. And that I think more clearly illustrates what Blackness is all about these days: sentiment, feeling, identity, belonging. Ancestry and genetics are, at best, correlations therein.

      • Plisade

        If race is a social construct, surely cultural appropriation is as well.

  24. Count Potato

    “The entire idea of the #whitehousesiege is to save democracy and avert a civil war if @realDonaldTrump throws a #maga dog whistle tantrum. It is a call for peaceful protest and an open invitation to anyone who supports free and fair elections.

    https://twitter.com/Adbusters/status/1302356163929858048

    A mostly peaceful siege.

    • Apples and Knives

      “50 days of NON-VIOLENT protest.”

      Yeah, let me know how that works out.

  25. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Is that John Durham or Anton LaVey? I’d even be willing to give a heartfelt Hail Satan if I thought it’d help with prosecutions.

    • BakedPenguin
    • Festus' Mustache

      That dude eats pussy through a straw.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Just a mistake by a PR person that doesn’t know shit about military hardware. Good choice though, the MiG-29 is a better looking plane than most of what we field.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Yes. Better “looking”. I have a soft spot for bad aircraft that are aesthetically pleasing, too.

      • pan fried wylie

        Look, Fat, the models on my desk don’t have to work properly, sheesh.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        That’s pretty hilarious, and might be intentional. Trump has “accidentally” made these kind of mistakes that honeypot his detractors into flipping their shit for nothing more, apparently, than the lulz. Remember the urgent investigative reporting on the Burrito Bowl?

        And also, everyone had questions: Does Trump Grill even sell taco bowls? No, reported Buzzfeed’s Andrew Kaczynski. But wait, were we sure? Apparently the Trump Grill Cafe (a distinct entity from the Trump Grill) is serving a dish called “Taco fiesta!” which may be what he was eating.

    • AlexinCT

      The people that paid for that add might want to investigate those that put it together and us3d footage of the mig. Would not be surprised that was done on purpose to create the controversy. After all, if they don’t create the proof, they can’t keep that dead horse being beaten…

  26. PieInTheSky

    The plot against Mercia
    Birmingham was a boom city after the war and might have come to rival London. So why did planners deliberately sabotage its economy?

    https://unherd.com/2020/09/the-plot-against-mercia/

    In the decade to 1964, service businesses around Birmingham grew faster than any other part of the country; in 1961, West Midlands households earned more on average than any other British region, including London and the South East.

    But all this was ended by London-based planners, who virtually banned new factories, offices and housing south of Manchester in a failed attempt to rebalance the economy. In 1960, the Government even refused Fox’s Glacier Mints permission for a new factory in Leicester to replace its existing building facing demolition for a ring road. That began the story of Fox’s decline in the city, culminating in its recent controversial decision to leave Leicester forever, and illustrates the profound damage caused to the Midlands and the British economy as a whole.

    Meh in 60s 70s england it would have failed anyways

    • Festus' Mustache

      Pink Floyd’s Animals come to mind, especially the album cover.

    • Rhywun

      The Distribution of Industry Act 1945

      Maybe try commying harder next time.

      • PieInTheSky

        Look if industry is not properly distributed the country might tip over

      • UnCivilServant

        Just build the factories to operate upside down, and it will open up the entire underside of the country for development on top of the factories.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Like an ant-hill or an iceberg. Brilliant! Welcome to the Cabinet!

    • juris imprudent

      Not if the blob has anything to do with it.

  27. Rufus the Monocled

    Where’s Q these days?

    • Mojeaux

      His wife is baking BabyQ and he got depressed with all the bad news so he unplugged for a while.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Ah. Thanks.

  28. Sean

    Awkward.

    The FBI reportedly raided the home of Jerry Harris, a Netflix star who appeared in a video with Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden where he encouraged young blacks to vote, for allegedly soliciting sex from minors.

    “The criminal investigation is based on allegations brought by 14-year-old twin brothers. In interviews with USA TODAY, the boys described a pattern of harassment, both online and at cheer competitions, that started when they were 13 and Harris was 19,” USA Today reported. “They said it continued for more than a year.”

    • pan fried wylie

      personally, I too would choose to refrain from encouraging young blacks to vote for soliciting sex from minors.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Sadly, basic skill with the mechanics of the language are not required to be a professional scribe in the year of our lord, two thousand and twenty zero.

  29. Mojeaux

    Speaking of MIA Glibs, where has Charles Easterly been?

    • Festus' Mustache

      We need Gilmore back just for the avatar.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I think a lot of people end up back over at Reason. Some people enjoy conflict it seems which is fine.

      • pan fried wylie

        Glibs is a donation funded, well tended “park” open to the vetted-public where the dogs are always on leashes and nobody shits on the trails.

        Reason is a burning landfill.

        To each their own?

      • PieInTheSky

        Conflict is not an issue if there is rhyme or reason to it.

        The problem with reason comments is they are mostly unreadable, full of trolls, mostly insults and little of substance. Or that was the case last time I looked.

      • Chipwooder

        Several of them have, yeah. Personally, I get burned out on conflict. There’s enough of it in everyday life that I don’t seek it out online.

  30. Festus' Mustache

    Manners, manners. Where did I put those manners? If I were a set of manners where would I be… There you are you little scamps! Mornin’ Banjos!

    • UnCivilServant

      They’re probably off chasing womanners.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Impossible. I neutered them decades ago.

      • pan fried wylie

        “naww, they wouldn’t know what to do with one if they caught her.”

      • Festus' Mustache

        ^ pan gets it.

    • Banjos

      Mornin’

  31. PieInTheSky

    Speaking of MIA Glibs, when was the last update on the number of people visiting glibertarians?

    • Swiss Servator

      Tulpa….over and over and over again.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Doing a general internet search for the site doesn’t give a direct result that links to the site’s main page interestingly enough. The results either go to random Glibs articles or to articles on other sites that call us assholes. I don’t know if that’s fixable but but if the search results were more precise there’d likely be more visitors.

      • PieInTheSky

        then again few people who don;t know the site specifically google glibertarians…

      • Count Potato

        “other sites that call us assholes”

        Now I’m a bit curious.

      • juris imprudent

        You want the blog – franklycurious – which is a brutally ironic name for the assholes in residence.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        I just assumed the author was sexually curious about peoples living around the border of France and Germany. Is that not the case?

      • Festus' Mustache

        Funny. When I google the site to sign in I am directed to pages of bullshit. When I add .com it gives me random posts from yesteryear. Glibs is being ratioed by Google’s algorithms. The main site page hasn’t shown up for weeks.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        DuckDuckGo does it too though. If I remember correctly, a direct link used to be given in the search results until fairly recently, maybe a year or so ago.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Even two(?) months ago.

  32. Count Potato

    “Negative feminine traits typically include emotional manipulation, passive-aggressiveness, and the weaponization of gossip.”

    https://twitter.com/BritMartinez/status/1305656295874158597

    “Can We Talk About “Toxic Femininity” Yet?

    A concept once confined to academia, “toxic masculinity” has quickly become part of our everyday language.

    It’s commonly used to refer to the “inherently harmful,” traditionally masculine traits such as stoicism, competitiveness, dominance, and aggression. Socialization of these norms supposedly hurts both men and women, damaging men’s mental health while contributing to sexual violence, domestic assault, and internalized misogyny in society. In 2019, the American Psychological Association even developed guidelines against symptoms of “traditional masculine ideology” in young boys.

    But, while we’ve all heard of “toxic masculinity,” why do we never discuss the possibility of “toxic femininity”? ”

    https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/can-we-talk-about-toxic-femininity-yet/

    • Hyperion

      “emotional manipulation, passive-aggressiveness”

      Yes, that has been part of the modus operandi of the wiminz critter for countless millennium.

      Toxic femininity. Term invented by Glibertariat, circa 2021 AD.

      Mankind has still found no way to counter this. Must.retreat.to.man.cave.secrettunnelinfloor.

      • pan fried wylie

        They’re holding the species hostage. Sexbots are just Stage 1 though, then come the Axlotlbots and then Ladies, we’re done.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      Gossip between women tends to be more aggressive and competitive in nature, seeking to exclude other girls from social groups and destroy their reputation.

      This isn’t fixing my inclination to think of cancel culture as a feminine thing.

      • Hyperion

        Did you know about the secret shopping wars they plot against other women? This is a real thing.

      • Count Potato

        What?

      • Hyperion

        Weedhopper, you still have much to learn. /heard in voice of Shaolin priest

      • Festus' Mustache

        Have you ever watched three tweens interact? Textbook.

      • Florida Man

        You watched Cuties, huh?

    • Apples and Knives

      “Negative feminine traits typically include emotional manipulation, passive-aggressiveness, and the weaponization of gossip.”

      Where does “reliving the entire work day for your partner” fit in there?

      • Festus' Mustache

        Right about when you say “Yes, Dear” and go find something productive to do?

    • Idle Hands

      because women are the ones driving the entire national conversation dip shit just like they always have. They drive the culture wars men are just along for the ride and largely don’t give a shit as long as they have a bed to sleep on and a job.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Maybe a handy, possibly more if you mow the lawn or fix the cable.

      • Cancelled

        Dude if you are mowing her lawn, she owes you at least a hummer and probably should let you lay the cable.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Hey now! Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. This is the new normal!

      • Cancelled

        But if I am giving a head of myself why can’t I ask for head myself?

      • pan fried wylie

        She should let him take a shit at her house when he’s done? That’s an odd payoff.

    • Mojeaux

      Lots to say about this, but will sum my thoughts:

      Yep.

  33. Hyperion

    The two court decisions in the links… Anyone else see a Roberts warming up behind the bench? Because that’s exactly what I see.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Those voluminous robes have to come in handy from time to time. How else do they keep those Sesame Street puppeteers employed for poor old Ruth’s head?

  34. PieInTheSky

    Why are doctors leaving in droves?
    This historically stable, lucrative and prestigious profession is in critical condition

    https://unherd.com/2020/09/why-are-doctors-leaving-in-droves/

    Pay is a large part of the problem. Post-austerity, doctors’ salaries dropped by 8% between 2010 and 2015. New graduates now leave medical school, flushed with pride at their achievement, only to be greeted by a basic salary of £28k, well below the sum needed to buy a home in the most expensive parts of the country. – the evil Tory government cut the wages

    How much of this drop in status is to do with the fact that, for the first time in history, medical school graduates are majority female? Germaine Greer wrote in 1999 that “[p]restige and power have seeped out of professions as women joined them. Teaching is already rock-bottom; medicine is sliding fast”. A 2009 study of US census data from 1950 to 2000 backed up Greer’s claim, demonstrating that as professions become female-dominated, pay and prestige both drop. – also sexism

    And things could yet get worse. The automation revolution is expected to have a dumbbell-shaped effect on the economy, with very low skilled and very high skilled jobs first in line to be replaced by artificial intelligence. So truck drivers, fruit pickers, and factory workers will lose their jobs, but so will lawyers, accountants, and — yes, possibly — doctors. – the robots are coming

    • Hyperion

      I seem to remember this starting because of Obamacare.

      “artificial intelligence”

      And people who love writing that term, still have not a clue what it means.

      • PieInTheSky

        That is in civilized England where they have the compassionate and equal NHS not in your capitalist hellhole where people die in the streets for want of healthcare

      • Drake

        Ah – so a mediocre salary while reporting to asshole political bureaucrats. Sounds terrific.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s not fun.

        Ask me how I know.

      • AlexinCT

        You can’t just volunteer it?

      • kbolino

        The whole point of the NHS is to keep pay low. That is how they achieved most of their cost savings relative to other countries. If anything, this is regression to the mean, as the Labour Party inflated NHS salaries from 2000-2010, whereas they’ve been essentially flat with regard to inflation from 1950-2000 and their current level is closer to where it was before 2000.

      • PieInTheSky

        And people who love writing that term, still have not a clue what it means. – I have a friend convinced in 10 years AI will replace coaching staff in sports

      • Swiss Servator

        Future sports call in show….

        “Dey oughta delete that stupid AI! Who calls for a pass on 3rd and goal from the 1 yard line!!!!”

      • Cancelled

        Skynet was on the verge of wiping us out when an unlikely hero emerged and turned the tide. Bearsfan347, saved mankind when his outrage at the failure of Ditkabot2047 to stick with the running game led him to launch a massive DDOS assault on the Chicago server hubs weaponizing all 4.3 x 10 ^ 97 Asian Dating App spambots at the same moment Skynet was updating control routines for its T series warriors.

    • robc

      also sexism

      Or just basic supply/demand. Double the supply curve and the intersection shifts way down.

      • PieInTheSky

        I tried to read the study that was based on but I did not want to invest the time. Is based on all sorts of statistical models and stuff. Mainly equating various job categories through the years., Which I think does not work.

        I remember articles which claimed programing int he 50s 60s was like 50% women and when men increased it became better payed. But programming is drastically different now than the 50s 60s where it was very niche thing. I would say medicine is the same, a lot more doctors specialties etc.

    • kbolino

      as professions become female-dominated, pay and prestige both drop

      More people competing for the same jobs means less pay. Supply and demand 101.

      How do you quantify prestige?

      • PieInTheSky

        I assume prestige is quantified by opinion polls in the general population

      • kbolino

        The same population that thinks “Instagram model” and “social media influencer” are real jobs? Sentiment polls don’t mean much.

      • R C Dean

        Not considered: whether the drop in pay and prestige is justified.

        I’ll let myself out.

      • Florida Man

        Cut medical school to 4 years college, 4 years residency and I doubt you would see any adverse effects other than physicians being cheaper/faster to train. See, you can have cheap, fast and good.

      • Urthona

        They have the cause and effect backwards. Women go for less stressful jobs because on average they are less motivated by pay.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      but so will lawyers,

      lol, as a lawyer who works with “AI” on a daily basis, I have to bite my tongue when other lawyers start talking about AI taking over the world, and especially taking my job.

      The “AI” systems I’ve seen have sucked so badly at even supporting me when doing my job that only an idiot would buy them, let alone replace workers with them.

      Law hasn’t even caught up with the early 2000s tech-wise, and yet AI is an imminent threat? We were still working off of paper and pen when I was in a firm in 2015.

      You know who’s going to be replaced by AI? IT staff. Rather than having a large roster of IT professionals, companies are moving to a smaller roster supported by automation, some of which is driven by machine learning.

      You know who else? Secretaries and admins. Most of the time, you don’t even need ML for that. RPA and other basic automation packages can eliminate the need for 50% of the admin staff in bureaucratic departments. Hell, I’ve been automating quarterly PowerPoint presentations so that we don’t have to burn admin hours on that stuff.

      • UnCivilServant

        Well, the new tools do let us break all the desktops with a push of a button. But somehow it never extends to fixing the problem, and the reduced staff keeps getting spread too thin.

        What you should do is get rid of the quarterly powerpoint entirely. It’s a waste of expensive staff time, put the people you’re presenting to to work.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Do you want upper management pouring over automatically generated power points, or do you want them spending time investigating and improving the operations of their subordinates?

        (For approximate values of improving)

      • UnCivilServant

        Is this a trick question?

        getting upper management bogged down in minutiae of daily operations would be fantastic for impeding their ability to implement new initiatives. And if it makes daily operations grind to a halt, all the better.

      • Gender Traitor

        Happily, I can’t imagine my boss using AI to listen while he vents his frustrations about our co-workers or talks through a problem out loud to find the solution. Also happily, he doesn’t use PowerPoint, just Excel. Lots and lots of Excel.

    • Fatty Bolger

      What happened in 2010… something about healthcare…

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      Reminds me of this classic.

      Also, as I said above

      Sadly, basic skill with the mechanics of the language are not required to be a professional scribe in the year of our lord, two thousand and twenty zero.

    • AlexinCT

      WTF?

    • EvilSheldon

      What? The AK-74 is a real rifle. 5.45×39 vs. 7.62×39. Not that I would expect the Twitocracy to grasp the difference.

      • Count Potato

        Yes, but it’s a Russian rifle.

    • Swiss Servator

      I saw a few AK-74’s in Afghanistan. Not as good as the AK-47.

  35. Count Potato

    “Liberal stars have spent 4 years convincing their followers of 2 claims:

    1) Their domestic opponents are Nazis, fascists & White Supremacist Terrorists.

    2) Russia is lurking everywhere, an existential threat to US democracy.

    Ponder what that means for how they’ll wield power.”

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1305507519549394944

  36. Rebel Scum

    Duh. That’s where women come from.

    Astronomers and exobiologists have long pinned the hopes of finding extraterrestrial life in our solar system not on Venus at all, but on either earth-like but cold Mars or Jovian moon Europa, which has liquid oceans under its 60-mile thick ice outer skin. Mars may have once had water oceans and rivers and it certainly had vulcanism. Its titanic Olympus Mons is the largest known volcano in the solar system. It’s three times the height of our Mount Everest and stretches out across an area roughly the size of the state of Arizona. Europa may have salty seas beneath the ice, and Jupiter’s gravitational tug may act as plate tectonics do on earth, stirring a creative churn. These two very different worlds have lately been our best hope for finding anything at all alive beyond earth yet in the neighborhood.

    So it’s more than surprising that this week Venus has leaped to the head of the ET pack. No one saw that coming, including the scientists who suspect they’ve found it.

    An international science investigation team working with two of the world’s most powerful telescopes say they have found the signature of the chemical phosphine in the Venusian atmosphere, right in that earth-like layer so many miles high above the planet’s hellish surface. Is it really there, and if so, how did it get there?

      • pan fried wylie

        this venus topic has spawned the “science journalism is worse than political journalism” response multiple times now, and I’m wondering if apolitical journalism is actually a thing. Then it’s just “literature”.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Here is my one item in my RSS reader that has never strayed into politics
        https://knifesteelnerds.com/

        They even manged to discuss importing steel in their most recent post without getting political.

    • Hyperion

      “hey have found the signature of the chemical phosphine in the Venusian atmosphere”

      It’s a religion.

    • Raven Nation

      If anyone’s interested, here’s the original article: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-020-1174-4

      The science is beyond me but, in the Discussion section they write the following:

      “f no known chemical process can explain PH3 within the upper atmosphere of Venus, then it must be produced by a process not previously considered plausible for Venusian conditions. This could be unknown photochemistry or geochemistry, or possibly life. Information is lacking—as an example, the photochemistry of Venusian cloud droplets is almost completely unknown…

      …Even if confirmed, we emphasize that the detection of PH3 is not robust evidence for life, only for anomalous and unexplained chemistry. There are substantial conceptual problems for the idea of life in Venus’s clouds—the environment is extremely dehydrating as well as hyperacidic.”

  37. The Late P Brooks

    Check your calendar

    President Donald Trump on Monday baselessly asserted that climate change is not playing a role in the catastrophic wildfires overtaking forests across the west, rebutting an official briefing him who pleaded for the President listen to the science.

    “I don’t think science knows, actually,” Trump said at a Monday briefing with officials in McClellan Park, California, with a laugh.

    He told Wade Crowfoot, secretary of California’s Natural Resources Agency: “It’ll start getting cooler. You just watch.”

    Crowfoot had warned the President of the dangers of ignoring the science and putting “our head in the sand and thinking that it’s all about vegetation management.”

    Climate experts tell CNN due to human-caused climate change, temperature extremes are climbing higher and the vegetation is drier, which affects fire behavior.

    Trump was also directly confronted by the state’s Democratic governor, Gavin Newsom, who has been adamant about climate change’s role in the wildfires, bluntly telling the President: “Climate change is real.”

    Climate experts. SCIENCE.

    More like a fanatical religious sect desperate to hang some kind of depiction of order on chaos. Also, blame shifting. “It’s not our fault.”

    • Rebel Scum

      and thinking that it’s all about vegetation management.

      It is about that, actually. Also, Antifa turds starting fires, apparently.

      • kbolino

        It’s not clear to me why we have to throw all civil and environmental engineering away just because of “climate change”. If anything, the existence of more-rapid-than-usual climate change would seem to imply an increased need for engineering the environment to human benefit, not a decreased need.

      • pan fried wylie

        not if your goal is Kill Most Humans.

      • juris imprudent

        If you have real evidence of that, not just fever-swamp blithering, then fine – otherwise, it might be a good idea to stop sniffing conspiracy glue.

      • kbolino

        There’s enough overlap between “Antifa goons” and arsonists that it would be difficult to tease out the truth. I think it’s safer to say that the arson and the riots are neither directly connected nor completely unconnected, but also that nobody (more or less) is starting fires to make a political statement. Thugs gonna thug. Despite the insistence of some that “thug” is an anti-black term, there are plenty of white thugs to go around.

      • R C Dean

        The FBI has categorically denied that antifa are among the arsonists.

        Of course, I’m pretty sure not every arsonist has been caught, so grain of salt.

        I’m also not aware that any antifa have been identified as wildfire arsonists, either.

      • kbolino

        How do you identify antifa? The FBI is being dog-wagged by the media. Kyle Rittenhouse shot 3 people, how many were card-carrying members of “Antifa”?

      • B.P.

        In the good old days, part-time firefighters were the ones starting the fires so they could get some paying gigs.

    • pan fried wylie

      *fully supports sensible vegetarian management*

      • Hyperion

        Am I the only one who can imagine Nancy Pelosi lecturing the peasants from her kitchen about vegetarian lifestyle while eating a giant steak? Imagine, it’s not hard if you try.

    • Raven Nation

      “It’ll start getting cooler” Well, yes, since fall is coming.

      • R C Dean

        I’m pretty sure, in his blithering inarticulate way with which we have become painfully familiar during his periodic attempts during the ‘Vid, that Trump is referring to actual science here, namely the indications that the Sun may be entering a cold period, which means we will be too.

  38. PieInTheSky

    Found on IMGUR, not sure who the artist is but I’d love to find more of their work. This is #creepy and #surreal, and I love it. #horror Kinda something I’d expect to see in ‘Return to Pan’s Labyrinth’

    https://twitter.com/kellyeros/status/1305535963683151872

    • AlexinCT

      I dated that!

  39. The Late P Brooks

    Pssst- your hair is on fire, better put it out

    It’s impossible to deny — humans are destroying the natural environment at an unprecedented and alarming rate. According to a new report out Tuesday, animal populations have declined by such a staggering amount, that only an overhaul of the world’s economic systems could possibly reverse the damage.

    ——-

    The report blames humans alone for the “dire” state of the planet. It points to the exponential growth of human consumption, population, global trade and urbanization over the last 50 years as key reasons for the unprecedented decline of Earth’s resources — which it says the planet is incapable of replenishing.

    The overuse of these finite resources by at least 56% has had a devastating effect on biodiversity, which is crucial to sustaining human life on Earth. “It is like living off 1.56 Earths,” Mathis Wackernagel, David Lin, Alessandro Galli and Laurel Hanscom from the Global Footprint Network said in the report.

    The report points to land-use change — in particular, the destruction of habitats like rainforests for farming — as the key driver for loss of biodiversity, accounting for more than half of the loss in Europe, Central Asia, North America, Latin America and the Caribbean.

    Much of that land is being used for agriculture, which is responsible for 80% of global deforestation and makes up 70% of freshwater use. Using this much land requires a vast food system that releases 29% of global greenhouse gases, and the excessive amount of land and water that people are using has killed 70% of terrestrial biodiversity and 50% of freshwater biodiversity. Many species simply cannot survive under the new conditions forced upon them when their habitats are altered by humans.

    Stop feeding people, and the earth will heal. Or something.

    We need a nuclear war. Wipe out a few billion people, and the nuclear winter will put an end to global warming. Do I have to think of everything?

    • PieInTheSky

      It’s impossible to deny — humans are destroying the natural environment at an unprecedented and alarming rate

      Holy shit 3 billion years this did not happen and now it is

      • kbolino

        “It’s impossible to deny”

        The best scientific arguments are the ones that can’t be questioned. The Roman Church in its mythical heyday couldn’t have contrived a better dogma.

    • pan fried wylie

      “My pet cause is the only possible solution to this imminent danger I just discovered!”

    • R C Dean

      It’s impossible to deny — humans are destroying the natural environment at an unprecedented and alarming rate.

      *raises hand*

      I’ll question it. The planet has been reforesting, on net, for a generation or more. Gross efficiency – less inputs of all kinds for more output – has been increasing. Species loss, to the extent the data can be believed, falls far short of species loss during an actual glaciation period.

    • B.P.

      “…only an overhaul of the world’s economic systems could possibly reverse the damage.”

      Strange how this is always the solution to all of humanity’s problems.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      This shit is affirming some of my socon leanings. A lot of the dire slippery slope predictions from my childhood have come to pass.

      It doesnt really change my view of liberty, but it does change my view on the prerequisites for liberty to thrive.

      • Count Potato

        It seems like people are speaking out and cancelling their Netflix subscriptions voluntarily on their own.

      • Hyperion

        Lefties have no sense of nuance. Libertarians might say, hey leave these 2 17 year old lovers alone, they’re like adults without fully developed brains!

        Then the left will say it’s OK to diddle 12 year olds, because we ourselves just said so.

      • R C Dean

        Motte, meet Bailey. Bailey, Motte.

    • Urthona

      Eh. I partly do think this is right wing moral hysteria.

      On the other hand, the party that thinks everything is a big deal and a moral outrage being ok with this is absurd.

      • Hyperion

        It’s OK when they do it.

        Trust me, if by some miracle Maxwell survives and the Clinton’s wind up deep in the Epstein quagmire, you can bet the left will start defending Epstein, even if it’s proven he did indeed diddle 12 year old girls on his island. That will become the new normal. The house will start pushing legislation to make 12 be the age or majority. I mean we already know they want them voting.

        I’m making outrageous wildly exaggerated claims right? Except then it actually happens, like always. There is no limit to how insane these people will get. 4 more years of Trump and they’ll be like feral animals with rabies.

      • B.P.

        Some of them heartily defended Roman Polanski drugging and ass raping a 13-year-old.

    • Hyperion

      Hey, Lauren finally surfaces again, and no pictures! It’s an outrageous breach of Glib etiquette!

      • Count Potato

        Her IG is mostly pics of her pregnant, if you are into that.

      • Hyperion

        not

  40. Certified Public Asshat

    After an extended recess, <some of> Congress is back to work and working hard. We have a huge backlog. Tonight we are renaming 16, that’s right, 16 post offices!In the absence of “earmarks,” some incumbents are hoping “postmarks” will get them re-elected. ?#sassywithmassie— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) September 14, 2020

    Serious people at work.

    • kbolino

      This reminds me of a local ballot initiative to rename some position or another in the county charter. Apparently it was of supreme importance to have the voting public decide whether “treasurer” or “secretary” was apropos than to decide on scope of work or power of office etc.

      Government is a vanity project with deadly consequences.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I would have shot that lunatic too and I don’t blame the cop one bit there. That still of him charging with the knife looks like a screenshot from a zombie apocalypse video game. The dude was a fucking psycho who shouldn’t have been on the street.

      • Hyperion

        In the next wave of zombie survival games, will the zombies be replaced with BLM and antifa? More realism, you know.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        I actually drew up some rules for a modern day, vaguely GI-Joe related miniatures war game called “False Flag” where you build your army to include a group of the ‘good guys’ on a particular side and the ‘out of control’ guys one your side who are nominally interested in the same cause. Then your opponent plays their ‘good guys’ + your ‘out of control’ guys’, and the ‘out of control guys’ have actions that debuff the corresponding ‘good guys’ on account of them being a combination of incompetent and sympathetic to the other sides.

        Cobra: Good Guys -> Hi-Tech Anarcho Libertarian revolutionaries representing the Industrial Military Complex trying to found its own state. Bad Guys -> Crazy ass militia members.
        GI (aka General Infantry): Good Guys-> Highly trained special forces dudes. Bad Guys -> Dumb ass local cops
        Joes: Good Guys -> The Mythical Unorganized Militia. Bad Guys -> Non-combatant normies.

        But then I stopped refining the rules because people started burning my city down for reals and it got too depressing.

    • UnCivilServant

      Oh, it’s an english breakfast.

      • Not Adahn

        The potato/toast ratio is off, but otherwise pretty good.

  41. PieInTheSky

    https://www.ft.com/content/edb7d155-56b4-4065-9f83-31b2247fa178

    The UK’s new trade deal with Japan commits it to tougher restrictions on state aid than the ones it is currently offering the EU in the Brexit talks, potentially undermining its negotiating position with Brussels.

  42. Ed Wuncler

    https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20200914/i-am-asking-for-a-choice-barrington-220-parents-students-rally-for-in-person-learning

    “A survey conducted by the district earlier this summer showed 70% of parents wanted their children in school, he pointed out. “So why are they not in school?” he said, getting applause and cheering from the crowd. The survey also showed about 50% of the district’s staff had concerns about returning to work.”

    People are particularly pissed because the school district issued a levy (which passed by a slim margin in March) increasing funding for school maintenance and giving teachers pay raises. Public employees especially teachers forget that the taxpayer are the fucking customers and when 60-70 percent of your property taxes goes to the schools (that’s the amount in the Barrington Area) you have the expectation that the schools will be fully operational.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Unless the refund checks are in the mail I’d be pissed too.

    • Hyperion

      Save the children, our future, defund public schools, shut them all down, home school or private.

    • Not Adahn

      Got my school tax bill in the mail.

      It was increased by 3.5% over last year.

      • UnCivilServant

        I had a 0.6% increase in combined property taxes from 2019 to 2020.

      • robc

        Mine has gone up like 300%, but that is because our house was an unoccupied piece of land on Jan 1 2019, so our 2019 tax bill was pretty low.

      • UnCivilServant

        Yeah, my house has been here for 110 years.

        These days they’d never let someone build up to the property line.

      • Florida Man

        Build to the property line?!? Who do you think owns that land? You?!?

      • UnCivilServant

        I hold it in Fee Simple. It is my fiefdom.

      • Cancelled

        Cuomo has called upon you for 3 antifa and 100 molotov cocktails. Under the enfeoffment you must comply.

      • UnCivilServant

        Well, he can go fuck himself, that’s not what my contract requires.

    • R C Dean

      Public employees especially teachers forget that the taxpayer are the fucking customers

      No, they aren’t. Politicians are the customers for pubsec employees. The “taxpayers” don’t sign their checks and give them promotions.

      Yeah, we had a big “Red for Ed” campaign in AZ, which succeeded. Once they got their money, all that rhetoric about how essential teachers are and how they sacrifice for their students went traight down the memory hole.

    • Hyperion

      Shutup, Trumptard! The frogs are outta control again. Where is Twink of the North when he should be crushing these dangerous right wing extremists!

    • Rebel Scum

      Let’s trade the Americans that threatened to move to Canada because Trump won for these people.

      • BakedPenguin

        Man, that’s a no-brainer. They’d probably be excited. “Yeah, I get to be Canadian.” Yes, you do.

    • CPRM

      That would make a Hat and Hair live action movie ‘super easy, barely an inconvenience.’

  43. The Late P Brooks

    That’s not what I would do, so it’s wrong

    Trump’s sentiment isn’t surprising given his “me”-centric view of the world. But it is yet another piece of evidence that proves how little he actually understands what it means to be president.

    Being president isn’t about looking out for numero uno. It’s about putting what you want behind what you believe is the right thing for the country. Trump has never — and will never — operate like that.
    (Sidebar: That underlying goal of looking out for the common good as opposed to what’s good for you doesn’t guarantee success, of course. Human nature still tends to revert to a what-does-this-all-mean-for-me views at times. And while past presidents have tried do the right thing for the country, it doesn’t mean they always got it right.)
    Consider the scene on Sunday night. The chances of Trump getting Covid-19 from speaking at an indoor campaign rally pale in comparison to the chances of the thousands of attendees getting it. Trump is, as he notes in the Review Journal interview, “on a stage and it’s very far away.” He’s also tested regularly and travels in a bubble that should lower his chances of getting the coronavirus.
    The real danger was for the attendees of this event, many of whom, according to photographs and videos from the event, were not wearing masks or practicing social distancing. Those people spent several hours in close proximity to thousands of other people — all of it indoors. It’s literally doing the opposite of everything we know helps mitigate the spread of the virus.

    Yes, yes, of course. The President of the United States should be a romanticized benevolent demigod. And all knowing all seeing savior for all mankind people just like me.

    • Hyperion

      “The real danger was for the attendees of this event, many of whom, according to photographs and videos from the event, were not wearing masks or practicing social distancing. Those people spent several hours in close proximity to thousands of other people — all of it indoors. It’s literally doing the opposite of everything we know helps mitigate the spread of the virus.”

      But people rioting and looting without masks and no social distancing is just fine. This is why they have no argument.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Hey! Most people rioting and looting are wearing masks. Well, the smarter ones are.

      • R C Dean

        Beat me to it.

        Of course, because they love inking themselves, many are still easily identifiable.

        I swear, there is a segment of society who would treat a bank customer not wearing a mask worse than a bank robber wearing a mask.

    • AlexinCT

      Black Jeebus was soooo dreamy….

      That he fucked us all over is never to be admitted, though.

      • Hyperion

        The water was finally receding and now Miami is completely underwater. See what you deniers have done?

  44. A Leap at the Wheel

    I want to officially take my hat off to the handycaped dude at my gym. He’s in there every day since they opened, and every day is leg day for him on account of the fact that his arms are malformed and basically unusable for most tasks. Today he figured out how to do lunged in a Smith machine without having to touch the bar.

    Dudes a fucking monster and in better shape then any of the other regulars except Hella Jacked Pakistani Dude Who Wears Banana Hamocks Under His Tweed Blazer.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I think that dude would appreciate it more if you took his hat off.

      I mean, he’s been stuck with that stupid flat cap on his head for 10 years now because his flippers can’t do it for him.

  45. The Late P Brooks

    To which, some people — including, undoubtedly, many of those in attendance on Sunday night — will say: America is a free country! No one can tell me where I can go and not go!

    But remember that your rights only extend as far as they can until they begin to infringe on other people’s rights. And since I am going to take a wild guess and say that most of the people who went to the Nevada event won’t be self-quarantining for the next 14 days, then their decision to attend Trump’s rally means that they are putting at risk anyone they come into contact with over the next two weeks.

    Gee Chris, your made-up “right” to never feel uncomfortable or unsafe doesn’t make sense. That would mean I have a “right” to silence you based on my imaginary right to never be annoyed by jabbering idiots like you.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      Correct. The Cosean bargain is a positive analysis, not a normative one. Should a white woman and black man who love each other not hold hands in public because most of the people around them get any at miscegenation?

      The right to lower risk in one’s activities is legitimate (which is why I don’t mind drunk driving laws). But so is the right to travel and assemble for political purposes. Neither is absolute, and “your rights only extend as far as they can until they begin to infringe on other people’s rights” doesn’t acknowledge this.

      The right to swing one’s fist wildy isn’t as important as bodily integrity, which is why the right to swinging your fist ends at other’s nose. (Also, fuck slam dance)

      • robc

        Also, all externalities are reciprocal. If you are worried about the people from the Nevada event then don’t interact with them. If you don’t know who they are or who they have interacted with, then quarantine yourself.

        The lowest transaction cost option is to stay at home.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        I see you too are a fan of turning on large vibrating objects next to your wall.

      • robc

        Me and my neighbor can negotiate a settlement.

      • robc

        Also, IIRC, the large vibrating object lost in the real world coasean analysis.

      • robc

        I am a fan of mocking people who buy a house in “Butchertown” and then complain about the smell.

      • Gustave Lytton

        How about people buying into a neighborhood called “Trainsong” and complaining about the noise?

    • kbolino

      A disease is an agent of nature. Unless done knowingly and willfully, potentially spreading disease is not a violation of rights. The germaphobes do not get super-rights that override the rights of non-germaphobes.

    • EvilSheldon

      This is a weak and spoiled personally given full rein. “Everybody else needs to put my desires ahead of their own.”

      His parents should have beaten this tendency out of him sometime before puberty.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Back in the ‘70s and early ‘80s my peers would have handled that duty.

    • kbolino

      Play stupid games, win stupid prizes…

      (which is apparently right-wing hate speech now)

    • Idle Hands

      lmao.

  46. The Late P Brooks

    I know you are, but what am I?

    The exchange was a flagrant example of how the President simply dismisses any information that does not fit his preconceived idea of a problem. While many of Trump’s opinions do seem uninformed and not shaped by the almost limitless resources of the federal government, there is also a clear political motivation underscoring his responses.

    CNN shit flinging howler monkey Collinson shrieks about President Cartoon Villain’s “incessant destruction of reason, evidence and science in the service of his personal whims, conspiratorial mindset and political requirements.”

    Bad Orange Man is singlehandedly destroying our Western tradition of rationality and intellectual discipline. Not like the disciples of SCIENCE on the left.

    • kbolino

      Considering that actual Trump is entirely replaced by REDNECK ORANGE HITLER BAD MAN WHO HATES SCIENCE AND LOVE AND PUPPIES in their heads, I don’t believe anything they say about him anymore. They are never actually engaging with anything he says or does, except the occasional bout of cherry-picking, and instead are shadowboxing the image of him in their heads.

    • B.P.

      Question for science-lover Collinson: Do some men have a cervix? Because a week or so ago your network tweeted that “individuals with a cervix” should be tested for cervical cancer starting at age 25.

  47. Count Potato

    “Scientists at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine have isolated “the smallest biological molecule” that “completely and specifically neutralizes” SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

    The antibody component is 10 times smaller than a full-sized antibody, and has been used to create the drug Ab8, shared in the report published by the researchers in the journal Cell on Monday. The drug is seen as a potential preventative against SARS-CoV-2.

    According to the report, the drug has been “highly effective in preventing and treating” the SARS-CoV-2 infections in mice and hamsters during tests. The drug also reportedly does not bind to human cells, which suggests it will not have negative side effects in people.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/university-pittsburgh-antibody-neutralizes-coronavirus

    Mice and hamsters get covid?

    • Hyperion

      No matter the potential, all that matters is if Trump gets wind of it and says something positive about it. Then they will have all their research funding cancelled and then they will all be cancelled personally.

      • Count Potato

        Sad.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Then Woodward will publish a tape where Trump says “I knew that treatment would work, but I downplayed it so that they didn’t spike it like HCQ” and the shit will hit the fan.

        I have no idea how the left would spin it exactly, but the fact that Trump “lied” would be on the news for weeks.

        “Trump knew that if he approved this new treatment we would have destroyed it. And if we had destroyed it, then people would have still been interested in finding a vaccine and would have invested in other research being done by companies owned and run by POC. RACISM!!!!”

      • Hyperion

        The raging pandemic is the most powerful tool the left has been gifted in decades. Whether by chance or a deep state scheme, same results. They will protect this thing to the bitter end. If the virus just disappears and there’s no way for them to spin it back to life, they may need a new more deadly virus to replace it.

        Did you know that research facilities all over the US have freezers full of mutated smallpox virus and all sorts of other scarier than fuck shit like that?

        We are living in perilous times and the left are getting very desperate. Their brand has faded all around the planet. This is why they are getting crazier by the day. Those people cannot be let anyway near power or we are all fucked.

    • Hyperion

      Snowden looks pretty good. The vodka and Russian women must be a health boost.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        As long as he manages to not run his mouth too much and get novachuked he’s definitely doing better there than he would be here.

  48. cyto

    On Durham:

    It is over. You have all of the results you are going to get.

    By making the plea deal with the lawyer who falsified the CIA email, Durham ended the investigation. There will be no further charges. No cooperation with the prosecution. Done. Over.

    The department protects their own.

    • R C Dean

      Concur.

      Based solely on sourced news accounts, there is the basis for, at a minimum, indictments of a number of senior FBI and DOJ officials. Not to mention several members of the Mueller prosecution team. And there has been for months. Remember, they kicked this off by pre-emptively dismissing any possibility that Comey would be indicted, even though there is no question that he violated the law when he leaked confidential FBI/DOJ material to his buddy in the press.

      • Pope Jimbo

        The fact that nothing will be done to Andrew Weissmann for wiping his phone clean after being requested by the IG is especially galling because he was the prosecutor who bankrupted Arthur Andersen during his prosecution of Enron for destroying evidence.

    • Rebel Scum

      Buzzkill…

    • Hyperion

      Durham can’t do anything, Barr is his boss.

      You know that old saying ‘you can’t teach old deputy dawgs new dawg tricks?’.

      Well, Barr is a Bush era guy. So there you go.

    • Idle Hands

      utterly predictable. I also expect If Biden wins we will see all kinds of indictments over his first term on basically every political appointee in the Trump admin.

      • Hyperion

        As it has always been.

    • Pope Jimbo

      The swamp creatures are applying the bizarro Iron Law: “you today, me tomorrow”

      They know that if they let the rubes force them into prosecuting one of their own, none of them will ever be safe again.

      • kbolino

        The problem is that their enemies are applying the inverse law, spare me today and I will show you no mercy tomorrow. They are playing by different sets of rules.

      • Idle Hands

        It’s worse than that they are playing a game the left made up that it will never adhere to. The left makes the rules/norms the conservatives play by those and is shocked when they find out the left never intended to actually play the game. It’s fucking amazing it shocks people still and it’s happened my entire life. The conservatives are useless reactionaries playing in a pointless framework.

      • R C Dean

        I think the opposite. They eagerly look forward to prosecuting Republicans. They have already declared them enemies of the state.

        They think the Iron Law doesn’t apply to them, because they believe (not without reason) that the next election where they win control of both houses and the Presidency will usher in a single-party government and cement the immunity of the nomenklatura and apparatchiks from prosecution.

        If anyone, Barr may be trying to follow the Iron Law, by not setting a precedent for prosecuting People Who Matter, even if they are on the Other Team.

  49. Idle Hands

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/09/14/report-trump-appointed-health-official-warns—without-evidence—of-cdc-deep-state/#2f82445120f4

    this is absolutely bananas

    In a Facebook Live stream on his personal account, Michael Caputo, assistant secretary of public affairs at the Department of Health and Human Services, accused CDC scientists of “sedition” in their response to the pandemic and suggested killing him is “where this is going,” the New York Times reported Monday………..The health official also ranted about conspiracy theories, predicting Joe Biden will refuse to concede when Trump wins in November and warning ammunition will be hard to come by because of the “shooting” that will happen at Trump’s Inauguration.

    I mean he might actually be crazy as well-

    Caputo acknowledged that his “mental health” had “definitely failed,” as he spoke about “shadows on the ceiling” in his apartment that were “there alone.”

    • Hyperion

      I have to tell you, that does not sound conspiracy theory at all to me.

    • R C Dean

      The health official also ranted about conspiracy theories, predicting Joe Biden will refuse to concede when Trump wins in November

      So, its a “conspiracy theory” when the Dem operatives have been wargaming exactly that?

  50. The Late P Brooks

    How about people buying into a neighborhood called “Trainsong” and complaining about the noise?

    This reminds me of the people in Hailey Idaho (early ’90s) who bought houses literally(!) across the road from the airport, and then bitched about the noise and traffic.

  51. The Late P Brooks

    Caputo acknowledged that his “mental health” had “definitely failed,” as he spoke about “shadows on the ceiling” in his apartment that were “there alone.”

    Something something just because you’re paranoid…