A Conjugate Visit

by | Oct 31, 2020 | Beer, Children, Food & Drink | 406 comments

Last week I my son was given an assignment at school that required I proofread a draft of a report on a certain species of cephalopod.  I pointed out something where I previously thought was incorrect, but he pulled something I am becoming more and more uncomfortable with a child doing to me:

 

….well….AKSHUALLY

This is my review of Elysian Punkaccino Pumpkin Coffee Ale

Where was I mistaken?  The report was on the octopus.  Due to my public school education, I was under the word octopus was a Latin root word due to the suffix -us.  This meant to pluralize such a word, you simply drop the -us and add -i.  Like the word cactus (cacti) for example I am often using in the vernacular.

The boy explained his teacher said octopuses was proper.   Which drove me to consult Merriam Webster, who said:

Webster wants to contribute to the dumbering of our children, it seems.  I then asked the only person with a tongue wicked enough to settle this disagreement, and Heroic Mulatto explained:

[…]because the “pus” is 3rd Declension, not second. The “u” is a long u because it itself comes from the Greek. It should be octopodes, but English usually uses the regular plural.

Which drove me to drink and perform some independent research on the subject.  Let’s face it, my weekly feature is pretty much me drinking and looking things up on the internet.

Fowler’s calls “octopodes,” the Greek plural, “pedantic,” and says “octopi” is “misconceived” and “a grievous mistake.” Another source, the Oxford Reference Guide to English Morphology, says “octopi”is “etymologically fallacious.”

Its pedantic?  Perfect—Octopodes it is.  Now if you excuse me, there are a number of Ocotillo Cactodes in my yard that I need to remove.

 

Since today is Halloween I went with this one.  It combines coffee and pumpkin, which is not going to do anyone any favors if they wish to not appear like they are some kind of hipster autumnal fertility potion.  If pumpkin ales are your thing, it hits the mark.  If you refuse to drink one out of some antiquated form of principle, its pretty much a pumpkin spice latte.  Yes, a pumpkin spice latte minus the part that makes a latte, a latte (milk, coffee, sugar, the fact that Starbucks is NOT selling it) and instead replacing it with alcohol.  And lets face it, for most of us the only actual objection to this is the person offering it to you for a reasonable price (possibly even for free out of an antiquated form of hospitality) is dressed like a retard, so clearly this must be hipster bullshit and/ or drinking it makes you a homosexual?

It doesn’t, but its not as good as others, to include other varies from Elysian. Elysian Punkaccino Pumpkin Coffee Ale:  3.75/5.

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406 Comments

  1. C. Anacreon

    Now I want calamari.

    • PieInTheSky

      random fact: the Romanian word for calamari is calamar. The usual English word is squid. For some reason if you ask most Romanians whoa re fluent in English to translate squid they say sepie not calamar . The English word for sepie is in fact cuttlefish.

    • westernsloper

      ^This man gets it.

      #metoo

    • Ted S.

      Shouldn’t those be calamaruses?

      • Cancelled

        Calamarodes Actually

  2. Cy

    “And lets face it, for most of us the only actual objection to this is the person offering it to you for a reasonable price (possibly even for free out of an antiquated form of hospitality) is dressed like a retard, so clearly this must be hipster bullshit and/ or drinking it makes you a homosexual?”

    I don’t know… I don’t see “IPA” anywhere on the bottle.

  3. Mojeaux the Meandering

    I hate “octopuses” and I am uncomfortable with “octopi”. I knew it wasn’t right but couldn’t say why. I love “octopodes”. I learned something today I didn’t realize was important to me. Thanks!

    • PieInTheSky

      I love “octopodes”. – how do you pronounce that?

      • PieInTheSky

        that’s not right

      • Cancelled

        ock TOH pah des

      • Rhywun

        Yeah, screw that.

        Octopuses.

      • KOVIDKristen

        Going byb “antipodes”, I’d say “oct-TOE-puh-dees”

      • PieInTheSky

        bingo

      • Gadfly

        I’ve always thought “antipode” was pronounced an-ti-pode (three-syllables), and checking the dictionary right now (Merriam-Webster) I see that it has two accepted pronunciations, the way I thought it was and the way you are implying. Therefore, I will declare that oc-to-pode is an acceptable pronunciation, since I like it more. 🙂

    • Tejicano

      I dunno. “Octopodes” sounds like the plural for the quantity of their appendages which is already covered by the “octo” part of the word. “Octopi” does sound contrived. I vote for “octopuses”.

      • westernsloper

        #smellmyfinger

    • C. Anacreon

      I imagine that just about every family has a unique neologism understood within the house but foreign to outsiders. Reading this thread reminded me of our family’s such strange word; while I was growing up, my parents referred to a pillow as a “pode”. As in, “do you need an extra pode to prop up your head so you can read?”

      Thank you ms for reminding me of our family idiosyncrasies! Nice memories on an otherwise melancholy morning.

    • pistoffnick

      I really like “hippopotomi”

      And the plural of a Prius should definately be “Prii” pree-eye

    • Bobarian LMD

      . I love “octopodes”.

      That sounds a lot like the title of a video that HM would link to.

      • Mojeaux the Meandering

        Erotica writers (which I am not one) will shift humans into anything. Were-cephalopods were a thing a few years ago.

      • Gender Traitor

        Which suggest (to me, anyway) the question…are there furries who aren’t… well… furry?

  4. R C Dean

    he pulled something I am becoming more and more uncomfortable with a child doing to me:

    Woah, that does sound completely inappropriate

    ….well….AKSHUALLY

    OK, not as bad as I thought.

    • Mojeaux the Meandering

      It’s maddening, particularly when used to derail the conversation from the core issue. XY uses it with great frequency.

      Somebody here said “quibbling” was an on-the-books punishable offense in the military. There’s a reason for this.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        We’re dealing with a quibbling phase with Trashchild #1. She assumes that as long as the conversation is going, she still has a chance of convincing us. Resultantly, our escalation of punishment for quibbling instead of listening had turned into an exponential curve.

      • Mojeaux the Meandering

        Yes. It happens most when he wants what he wants and refuses to concede that his wants are unacceptable / inappropriate / not going to happen under any circumstances.

        Listening goes out the window when you’re trying to backtrack and explain your logic, which then also gets picked apart. We are at the stage where, when the first hint of “well, ackshually” gets pulled out, it all goes to hell.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        trying to backtrack and explain your logic

        Thankfully we’re not there yet. We’re still in the “I have the authority and will to make your life miserable if you don’t comply” phase.

        “Comply, then ask why” is becoming a worn out phrase in this household.

      • westernsloper

        something apples something falling something distance from a tree sort of thing?

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        *nods surreptitiously*

        In seriousness, she’s 3 so it’s expected behavior. Doesn’t make it any more acceptable, but it does make it easier to address without getting emotionally involved.

      • KOVIDKristen

        She assumes that as long as the conversation is going, she still has a chance of convincing us.

        * cough * lawyer’s child * cough *

      • Mojeaux the Meandering

        Ha! Reminds me of family lore. My gpa on my mom’s side was so exasperated with her one day, he said, “That girl! She would argue with a Philadelphia lawyer.”

      • C. Anacreon

        “quibbling” was an on-the-books punishable offense in the military

        Especially when quibbling leads to quisling.

      • Fourscore

        Quibbling = lying but if you can quibble while using humor that sometimes can be used but its only good for a laugh and to defuse a situation where one does not want to admit defeat.

        Be careful, some senior officers have little sense of humor and less patience with a junior officer.

      • Bobarian LMD

        From the military version of quibbling is similar to lying by omission. You’re avoiding the truth of the actual matter by concentrating on the parts that are true or distract from where the actual fact that matters lies in a statement or action.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Somebody here said “quibbling” was an on-the-books punishable offense in the military.

        In my experience quibbling is what you are charged with when you disagree with a superior….and you are indeed correct.

  5. PieInTheSky

    Elysian Punkaccino Pumpkin Coffee Ale – this is why people hate America

    • Nephilium

      What entertains me about this is that Elysian is owned by AB-InBev. The same company that (several weeks after acquiring them) ran a Super Bowl ad lambasting beers exactly like this one.

      • Gadfly

        Well, marketing is more of an emotional than logical affair. Why else does sex and humor dominate? Consistency, accuracy, truth? Nah, just make the people feel good, and they’ll buy it.

      • l0b0t

        S.C. Johnson (A Family Company­™) is widely studied as a pioneer and leader in many forms of marketing and this is one of their most famous. They will launch multiple products into the same retail space and force them to compete against each other as well as offerings from other firms.

  6. R C Dean

    Now if you excuse me, there are a number of Ocotillo Cactodes in my yard that I need to remove.

    Why are you getting rid of<a href="” title=”Purty!” target=”_blank”> them ? They are some of the better cactodes. Now, Hate Cactodes That Hate, those you should be exterminating with extreme prejudice.

    • R C Dean

      What the!

      Why are you getting rid of <a href="http://” title=”Purty!” target=”_blank” >them?

      • R C Dean

        <a href="http://” title=”Purty!” target=”_blank” >Aargh!

      • R C Dean

        <a href="” title=”Fuckity fuck ” target=”_blank”>Oh, fuck it.

      • Nephilium

        I think we found an example for the rule of insanity…

      • Rhywun

        LOL

    • The Gunslinger

      That thing is lovely. Do they grow okay in michigan?

      • R C Dean

        One last try. There is something goofy with Monocle’s link function, I swear.

        Hate Plant, Hating.

      • dbleagle

        That isn’t the hate plant in him. It is cholla, but not Jumping Cholla, There is a hate plant in the background.

      • Tejicano

        At least it wasn’t a teddy bear cholla

      • dbleagle

        Same plant, different names. It is the plant that hates.

        Our lab messed up big time once by stepping on a bad and immediately plopped down covering one side with buds then stepped on a few more. Luckily I had my desert hiking comb on me so I could start getting them off her. She was torn between nipping at me for causing her pain and whimpering so I would finish the job.

        I don’t know how she survived Tucson. Between that and trying to sniff buzzing rattlers she was lacking in desert sense.

      • R C Dean

        OK, that worked. Let’s try:

        Why are you getting rid of themm?

      • dbleagle

        The Ocotillo is not a cactus. It is not even a succulent. It was used to construct snake proof fencing around yards in the territorial and early statehood days. Why would you get rid of ocotillo?

        (Says former ocotillos in yard person.)

      • Mojeaux the Meandering

        Is that like piling sweet gum trees spiky balls on top of your bulb beds to keep squirrels from eating them?

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Why are you getting rid of them?

        …because its dead.

      • R C Dean

        How can you tell? They look stone dead big chunks of the year, basically if it hasn’t rained within the last few weeks or so?

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Well…it did fall over. Very shallow roots. But yes it looks like a pile of burnt sticks somebody buried vertically for 10 months out of the year.

    • hayeksplosives

      I have one of those crazy cacti! We named him Cortez. He’s planted in a large pot to keep him from self propagation all over the yard.

      One of the branches has a bright pink/red bloom at present.

      It is indeed the Hate Cactus. The little spines, once they prick flesh, curl at the tips and hook those big needles right into your skin.

      I have no idea how it grows so much. We have to trim it a few times a year.

      • Cancelled

        He’s planted in a large pot to keep him from self propagation

        Man you are really on a Kellogg kick aren’t you?

      • peachy rex

        Go ‘way – self propagatin’.

  7. l0b0t

    Sesame Street lost me several years ago when they had the execrable Andy Samberg on as the “King of Rhombuses”.

    • PieInTheSky

      the execrable Andy Samberg – the lonely island was reasonably fun

      • Gdragon

        I think he’s one of the most “hit or miss” comedians out there. But the hits are pretty good I think.

      • Rhywun

        Yeah, he’s not that bad. SNL has/had way worse.

  8. Mojeaux the Meandering

    30 minutes …

    @EF, I feel you. Good luck with your day.

  9. westernsloper

    Let’s face it, my weekly feature is pretty much me drinking and looking things up on the internet.

    And it is most appreciated. I went to the store early today so too early for booze sales. I would drive to the liquid store now for a pumpkin sort of beer but it is 10:30 and I am in no condition to drive. Drunk at 10 and I saw TH and Q commenting in the morning links. It is a good day! Now I must make some chicken stock for later use. Third season is coming up soon.

    • Mojeaux the Meandering

      I have a bunch of turkey stock in my freezer. I’m thinking of making turkey noodle soup.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I am thinking of getting a farm raised turkey this year…but $8-12 bucks a lb is pricey. And that reminds me, I need to also pull out some stock from the freezer.

      • Mojeaux the Meandering

        I am not a fan of turkey, but I wasn’t going to waste the stock after I stripped the bones.

      • Nephilium

        This year there won’t be enough people to go with a full turkey. I’m thinking skin on breast, herb stuffed, and butter basted in butter used to deep fry the herbs.

        Just finished cleaning up from the pot of chili currently simmering on the stove. Home made chili powder, toasted with sweet onions, bell pepper, poblano pepper, serrano peppers, two lovely peppers from Sean (small brown, large red bulb shaped), red fresno peppers, fire roasted tomatoes, masa (for thickening), Founders Porter (BOOM! Bringing it back on topic), and chuck roast (cut into small pieces by me… it was on sale).

      • Sean

        The pepper plants are winding down. I’m gonna get one or two more small batches before I get rid of them. I already ditched one of them.

        Those lil brown peppers bring the heat.

      • Nephilium

        It does. I had a taste when cutting the peppers up (never cook with something you haven’t tasted yourself). Nice flavor, good burn, habanero?

      • Sean

        Apocalypse scorpion chocolate.

      • Nephilium

        Sean: Interesting, it didn’t seem to be reaper level hot from the bite I tried. We’ll see how much cheese and tortilla chips the girlfriend needs for a bowl of the chili. 🙂

      • Sean

        I’ve noticed some variation on their heat levels. While always hot, some of them are *quite* hot.

      • Nephilium

        Sean: Makes sense, pepper heat levels are very dependent on a whole raft of things. Another reason to always taste something before adding it to something you’re cooking. Especially if the person you live with does not have your heat tolerance, knows where you sleep, and where the sharp knives are.

      • Nephilium

        The girlfriend likes turkey. At this point, I’m not even sure what’s going on for Thanksgiving. Usually at this point of the year, I’d already be planning out the menu, and testing new recipes out. Now it’s just my side of the family, minus a niece (and her fiance). They all live ~45 minutes away from me, so I’m probably going to let my sister decide if she wants to host (and I bring all the prepped food), drag everyone over here, or take a third option.

      • UnCivilServant

        My first thanksgiving in my own place, I had no guests, so I made a cornish game hen.

        Rather than cute, it struck me as just sad.

        I never did it again.

      • DEG

        Founders Porter is an excellent beer.

      • Nephilium

        I generally prefer a rauchbier for my chili, but there were none at the store I stopped at (an imperial s’mores porter would… not work). The other option was Deschutes Black Butte, which is also excellent, but was $1 more expensive for a six pack. The Founder’s Porter is a benchmark of the style and excellent. I’m waiting for the other four to chill down.

      • westernsloper

        This is going into some Jambalaya as well as Green Chili that I will make next week for hunting camp. First time I get to go in three years so I am looking forward to it.

      • C. Anacreon

        Will you be serving your Jambalaya with crawfish pie and filé gumbo?

      • westernsloper

        Never made those or know what they are so I am going with no.

      • C. Anacreon

        Sorry, I’m old and so are my music references, I guess. Those are lyrics from “On the Bayou” by Hank Williams, perhaps best remembered in this John Fogerty/Creedence Clearwater Revival version:

        https://youtu.be/KT0jTZAiN-g

      • Fourscore

        “Cause tonight you’re gonna see your ma cher imio”?

      • westernsloper

        Doc, we are the same age I just don’t get musical references my bad. Excellent choice of references!

    • mexican sharpshooter

      I dunno, when I see Q…I don’t think of chicken stock.

  10. The Late P Brooks

    clearly this must be hipster bullshit and/ or drinking it makes you a homosexual retch.

  11. DEG

    Which drove me to drink and perform some independent research on the subject. Let’s face it, my weekly feature is pretty much me drinking and looking things up on the internet.

    It’s why I like your weekly feature.

    Yeah, HM is right. “Octopodes” is what it should be.

    It combines coffee and pumpkin, which is not going to do anyone any favors if they wish to not appear like they are some kind of hipster autumnal fertility potion.

    Did it work? Would it get a weirdo like me laid?

    • Fourscore

      LOL X 2

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Yes.

    • Rhywun

      “Octopodes” is what it should be.

      Pfft. There’s no rule that says we have to import their grammar along with the word.

  12. l0b0t

    Are we watching Zardoz tonight? I just found out about Connery and I’m rather upset about it.

    • Drake

      It was his dying wish.

      • Sean

        Ooof.

      • Rhywun

        *snort*

      • Viking1865

        MAGA Twitter is spreading the meme to vote Trump because it was Sean Connery’s dying wish.

        Lefty twitter is completely missing the joke.

    • Nephilium

      I’m planning on putting it onto the Zoom in a loop muted with subtitles on. If there is really an uproar, I can turn the sound on, but I’m not sure how well the audio quality will carry over.

  13. hayeksplosives

    My spousal unit is going to vote in person today. I voted by mail. We’ve no idea whether we’ll be counted or not.

    There’s also a Trump rally near my place of business today. No Trump, just fans. It’s a valiant effort.

    The donkey running for the open US house seat where I live came out pro-Palestinians, anti-israel. Too late to change any minds though.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      I heard Issa was in the lead. DJT had him pegged in Issa’s ad, I guess.

      • hayeksplosives

        Yep.

    • Rhywun

      The donkey running for the open US house seat where I live came out pro-Palestinians, anti-israel.

      I would just assume that at this point.

  14. Mad Scientist

    Pumpkin. Coffee. Ale.

    Jesus. If you want a coffee, and are sick enough to put pumpkin shit in it, go for it. Buy why in the hell would you then take that garbage concoction and ruin perfectly good beer with it? I can only conclude the beer was already ruined and this was the seasonally appropriate way to disguise that and sell it anyway.

    • creech

      On the other hand, try the pumpkin pancakes at “First Watch.” The pumpkin ruins nothing!

    • Not Adahn

      Newburgh makes a “beer” in which the wort is made from roasted hard squashes instead of grain. It’s delicious.

      • Nephilium

        Wouldn’t that technically be a wine, as it’s made from fruit?

      • Not Adahn

        Isn’t wine made from fruit juice though? This is made from a wort.

      • Nephilium

        Are they adding in 2-row or 6-row to provide enzymes for the mash to convert the squashes’ starches into sugar? Or just using the sugars of the squashes? Or are they going the extra route and malting the squash seeds?

      • Not Adahn

        I’m pretty sure they’re not sprouting the seeds prior to roasting.

        They roast the squash brown, which breaks down some of the starches. I don’t know if they’re doing anything enzymatically to get the rest. Whatever yeast they are using eats everything, since the finished product is extremely light-bodied.

      • Nephilium

        You can buy the enzymes separately, but I’m not sure that would be classed as a beer. Even with the roasting, based on what you’re saying, it would probably require a winery license here in Ohio. One brewer I talked to once did a braggot (either a mead with malt, or a beer with a large honey addition), and was talking about the state regulators coming in to make sure that at least 51% of the fermentables were from malt and not honey. If they went over that, then they would have needed to dump it, as they only had a brewery license (at the time), and couldn’t make wine/mead/ciders.

        Apologies for the questions, just embracing my geekiness a bit.

      • Not Adahn

        I honestly don’t know enough to answer.

        But they boil the squash and then throw the solids away and ferment the wort. Why would that be a wine? I am completely unfamiliar with what the rules are about this sort of thing.

      • Nephilium

        Not Adahn:

        Under most definitions, that would probably be a must not a wort. Wort is malted grain and/or enzymatic changes to convert starches to sugars. It’s a technical difference only interesting to brewers, wine-makers, mazers, and regulators.

        Although I’m now contemplating trying to malt squash seeds, I don’t know if they’d have enough enzymes to convert themselves, but mixed with some 2-row, it could add something. Perhaps a nice nutty note.

      • Not Adahn

        Ah, I did not know that (obvs).

    • mexican sharpshooter

      From the man that hates cheesecake.

      • Tulip

        What?!

      • Nephilium

        The girlfriend is a monster like that as well. She also doesn’t like chocolate truffles.

    • Nephilium

      Coffee has a long history of being used as an adjunct in beer. Quite a few of them are delicious. The strange ones to me are the new style coffee blonde ales, which are light colored (like a blonde ale should be), but have a very strong coffee flavor.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        I have a local made Kölsch with your name on it…

      • Nephilium

        One of the breweries that has not survived the lockdown had a head brewer who went to Koln every year. He loved kolsches, and made a fantastic example of the style. After getting that dialed in, he eventually introduced a coffee variation on it, which was also really good.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        I send some to Swiss every spring. Let me know…

  15. Not Adahn

    Pogo did a complete break down on the pluralization of octopus (as well as the conjugation of “to have”) on October 17, 1954. Unfortunately, the copyright lawyers are doing a good job of preventing me from finding it to link it to you.

  16. Sean

    Trump live in Bucks county right now. On the other side from where I’m at.

    • Ayn Random Variation

      Just put him on during halftime. He looks exhausted. Not his usual hung ho self.

      I got the call yesterday morning that I passed the background check so I went and picked it up. It took 4 days to go through. Sitting here reading the instructions. Have a training class Wednesday, assuming the city is open for business. 9pm curfew last night and lots of stores boarded up.

      • Sean

        My tv must not be working right. He’s crushing it. I’m not seeing him tired.

        Don’t forget to get extra magazines.

        http://www.Gunmagwarehouse.com

        Be safe down there.

      • Drake

        I’d be exhausted – 4 or 5 hour long speeches at different locations every day? He’s a machine. Win or lose, he gave it everything he had, unlike the other guy.

      • Ownbestenemy

        So does that hard work, which used to be an American quality we looked for, translate.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        I know I’m being paranoid but I’m wary of buying anything gat related online. I even paid cash.

        But seriously thanks for all of the advise from you and others. They had what I asked for when I walked in and it made the whole process easier.

        I’m taken aback by the price of amo. $59 for a box of 50 rounds. Sounds like an expensive day going to the range to practice.

      • Drake

        That’s crazy expensive even right now
        I paid $21 a couple weeks ago and decided I had enough until things simmer down.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        They have a sign up for the range that due to an ammo shortage you can only buy one box per visit.

      • Sean

        Dude!

        I’ll sell you three boxes of Wolf steel case range ammo and a box of HST hollow points for $60.

        50 rds per box. The catch is you would have to pick it up. Hit up TPTB for my email if you’re interested.

        *Offer only open to the new gun owner.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        Thanks man I will definitely keep it in mind. Who is TPTB.

      • Sean

        The powers that be. The person who runs Glibs. SP

    • Rhywun

      Cause from abroad the US looks like a failed state ?

      Maybe pay less attention to the lies your media is almost certainly feeding you.

      • Drake

        From abroad, the U, Australia, and New Zealand seem to have fallen into some kind of Orwellian dystopia while Sweden remains the only western nation with any sense.

      • Rhywun

        From inside, too.

  17. egould310

    Smirnoff, Emergen-C, Perrier. I’m naming it the “Lunkhead”. Happy Halloween to all the Glibs!

  18. UnCivilServant

    I won’t be here tomorrow for glbifit updates, so I’m making mine now.

    I just finished a three mile walk along the cannibal river. Temperature went from just below freezing to 37 while I was out. Sun was shining, so I had to carry my jacket the last half mile to avoid sweating to death. I’ve only neem taking daily walks for two weeks, after a solid six months of almost no physical activity whatsoever. So three miles is a new peak distance. Current goal is four miles.

    • egould310

      Keep it up, dude. ?

      • UnCivilServant

        That’s the plan 😀

    • Sean

      Nice. No mask police hassle?

      • UnCivilServant

        Nope.

        Not mandated outdoors anyway.

        Less than half of the people I saw were wearing, with a few ambiguious entries (scarf could be due to poor cold tolerance)

      • Sean

        Being NY, I just assumed the potential.

      • Rhywun

        I took about an hour’s walk including a nearby park. Masks everywhere; more than a few weeks ago. But yes, when Cuomo and friends claim you “have” to wear one outside, they’re lying.

      • dbleagle

        Did my usual hill “three summit” loop this morning on the hills near the house. No Trade Winds so if this keeps up it will be sticky and a chance of T-storms this p.m.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        I see way more outdoor masks now than at any time. Often I’m the only maskless person. Even the street people have them. Nobody bothers me (yet) about it.

      • Drake

        I noticed more people wearing masks on the weekend than the regulars during the week. They still take it off for cardio.

      • Rhywun

        I saw people at the park playing tennis with fucking masks on today. *sigh*

      • DEG

        I saw some folks walking down my road wearing masks.

        WTF?!?!?!

      • Drake

        Like Captain America or Batman? I just saw some of those.

  19. Ownbestenemy

    Mission Accomplished by the MSM. Looks like they decided they are close enough to the election to start looking into the whole Biden fiasco. That was 16 days of suppressed news. I am enjoying a morning Shiner Bock, not the greatest, but its 11am so shut up.

    • egould310

      Hey! How is Las Vegas? Are bars/restaurants open and accomodating? It’s hard to get info from the internet.

      • Ownbestenemy

        They are open but it is weird. Because most bars are gaming bars, they restrict who sits at a bar (players dumping cash into the machines) and some are still going above and beyond on if you can sit at the bar or just at the high-tops or booths. Otherwise, you can go.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Which I told our local watering hole that sorry, we won’t be coming in because you relegate us to a booth rather than let just two of us sit at the bar and play $20 bucks in the machine. This particular bar is only wanting their regular players at the bar. It is hard to find a non-gaming bar in Vegas or even one with no gaming machines at the bar.

      • Nephilium

        That the Irish place across from the Orleans?

      • Ownbestenemy

        No this one is more south and in the BT it was awesome. Great bartenders (one puts out the leg lamp and she has the legs to match every Christmas) but in the Dark Times, we go to eat there to keep them afloat, but don’t drop anything in booze.

        We haven’t dropped by McMullins since this has all happened. Maybe we will go tonight to see how restrictive it is.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        I went to Griff’s when I was in Vegas in June and there were zero Covid rules. It’s a combination pool hall/bar/restaurant.

        In the casinos you only had to wear a mask if you were playing at a table. Alcohol and food were being served.
        (In AC, you have to wear a mask everywhere inside and you can’t eat or drink anything except water in a clear bottle inside.)

        I guess things have tightened up since then?

      • Ownbestenemy

        In a way, really like everywhere else, it depends on the location. Our watering hole was getting hit with OSHA daily (my guess is neighboring bar making the claims) so they are overly restricted.

        You also came before the mask mandate and during the short reopening of the bars before our all-knowing leader shut them down again.

        The new rules has all the bars on edge that some Poindexter OSHA punk will come in and fine/shut dow now and because revenues are down, really catering to what makes money and that is gaming, not shots or drafts.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        Good point. It goes bar by bar here in terms of how serious they take it.

        I saw something disgusting the other day. A bar had a sign up saying it was COVID approved by the state.

        Talk about a slippery slope.
        “McSorley’s Public House: Diversity and Inclusion Approved by These United States of The People”

      • Nephilium

        Ownbestenemy: There are people calling in complaints on bars and restaurants that weren’t even open for business at the time of the complaint. So far, I’ve only heard of one Akron bar getting their liquor license pulled due to a glorious flaunting of the regulations. They had a sign up saying that masks were required, but if you have a medical condition you were exempt, and in order to respect their patron’s privacy they will assume anyone not wearing a mask has a valid medical condition.

      • egould310

        Thanks for the local knowledge.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      I got my nattys, your’e all good
      Cheers!

    • Ayn Random Variation

      This is just one of the options they’re leaving themselves for installing Harris. 25th Amendment. Impeachment. Biden won’t last a year if they take the Senate.
      I guess Warren would be named the VP? Booker?

      • hayeksplosives

        AOC!

        Somebody’s got to cram that Green New Deal through!!

      • Ted S.

        She’s not 35 yet.

      • Viking1865

        I mean, if you’re gonna do a legal coup, might as well keep pushing the Overton window.

      • Ownbestenemy

        AOC will push out Pelosi for speaker in that case once they have their Crowned Victory of the Peoples’ House.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        Schumer is the next speaker.

      • Ownbestenemy

        From the Senate?

      • Ayn Random Variation

        D’oh. Ummm, sure why not lol. Who knows what they’ll come up with.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        AOC…cram…would

  20. Yusef drives a Kia

    Sean Connery is dead

    • Ownbestenemy

      Who?

    • Gustave Lytton

      Shut your mouth, Trebek!

  21. Yusef drives a Kia

    I got my nattys, your’e all good
    Cheers!

    • Ownbestenemy

      How is life Yusef? Loved the pictures a few days ago. I miss seasons and the small change we do get here in Vegas isn’t enough.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Im getting the keys to my mobile home Friday, my first house ever, lots of work, wind and weather. Im busy but at peace, for now

      • Ownbestenemy

        As Major Dick Winters said “I would live this war one day at a time, and I promised myself that if I survived, I would find a small farm somewhere in the Pennsylvania countryside and spend the remainder of my life in quiet and peace.”

        That is all we really need and I hope you have found that quiet and peace.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Thanks, I know that quote well, what a Man he was, and thats all I want, peace, and beer and golf of course,

    • hayeksplosives

      Ooo, potentially good. I do enjoy chocolate and raspberry in bonbon form!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Founders can do no wrong, it should be great, waiting for trick or treaters til I try it

      • Libertesian

        #metoo — I’m attempting to wait until I take the kids trick or treating, but that’s still more than 3 hours away.

    • Rhywun

      Well, the numbers sound like bullshit but it was still mean of Donald to force people to attend his rallies like that.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        This

    • Ayn Random Variation

      I am having a hard time trying to find a link calculating how many people attending protests and riots got infected.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I think GWP has a tally somewhere, but that is a partisan site.

        https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/rally-tally-update-week-go-trump-train-steamrolling-ahead-biden-bus-broken/

        They claim since Labor Day, Trump rallies have has about 640,000 attendees. Study is then claiming 4% infection rate and a .1% death rate. I am sure those numbers are well below all State “goals”.

        What would be fun, is if we had numbers to compare to in non-covid times on their time frame of say…flu infections and/or deaths.

      • Ownbestenemy

        And that isn’t counting all the impromptu rallies that keep popping up that don’t even have a Trump campaign attached to it. It amounts to nothing and is a manageable risk taken by people.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Name two.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Herman Cain is one. I’m sure there is one more. Beyond that ***shrug***

      • Count Potato

        He had cancer though.

  22. Hyperion

    WTF?

    “Because of coronavirus outbreaks that have been attributed to bars and restaurants, the State of Michigan will require these establishments to get the name and phone number of every customer.”

    My name is Fuck Off and my address is go to hell, governor witchy bitchy.

    • Rhywun

      LOLno

      Sorry to see them go out of business like this.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      It starts Monday, lets see how it plays out, everyone I meet will not comply, bte my name is heywood jablowme, im at 5556666, call me,
      Fuck off Slavers!

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Table for Mr. Slaver. Mr. Fuckoff Slaver your table is ready.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Yeah and not one uncurious reporter bothered to ask “Can you show the evidence that it is bars and restaurants that are causing this?” Fuck em all.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Imma see on monday, Ill drop by north channel brewery and see what the scene is like

      • westernsloper

        That is what burns my grits so to speak. No fucking reporters anywhere are asking those questions. *Cases* go up so it must be the restaurants and bars.

        *they are not cases they are a positive test where the person goes home from work for a few weeks and is fine 99.9% of the time

    • hayeksplosives

      Come on, Michigan! Don’t fall for Blue again!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Up here, its Trumplandia, but we are preparing for the shit to come up from the cities, I joined an ad hoc group that will meet at the south side of town, just in case, people are scared,

    • Ayn Random Variation

      LOL. When are the mandatory tracing devises coming?

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        They be injected with the mandatory vaccine.

    • DEG

      It’s in NH too

      Hours after the hospitality industry requested it, Gov. Chris Sununu approved a requirement that restaurants keep a temporary database of diners to more quickly contain cases of COVID-19 linked to a business.

      Starting Saturday, all restaurants must get and keep on file the name and telephone number of at least one person in each dining party.

      The information must also note the table or bar seats the group used, the server or bartender’s name and the date and time they were in the restaurant.

      As I understand it, the news story has some problems. One is that restaurants have to ask, but customers do not have to respond. It is up to the restaurant if the restaurant will serve a customer that refuses to give contact information.

      • Rhywun

        I’m sure the wait staff are delighted to be playing Stasi agents.

      • Not Adahn

        How else is that creepy waiter going to get the hottie’s phone number?

      • Fourscore

        Moon lighting as Census Takers

        /Two people live here

      • DEG

        I know of a couple of places that plan to go the “We have to ask but you don’t have to answer” route.

        I’m heading out to the brewpub tonight. They have my contact information from some past take-out orders and maybe also from a reservation for a work event. The staff know me, so giving a fake name and phone number won’t work.

        Since it is Halloween and it is a place that I’ll bend for, instead of wearing my bandanna in a half-assed manner as a mask I’ll wear my plague doctor mask.

    • Hyperion

      The left are done with their useful idiots for now. After Trump wins, all the useful idiots can get their get out of jail free cards back for 4 more years.

  23. egould310

    Any Phoenix Glibs around? How are bars/restaurants in the area? Are they open and accommodating?

    Wife and I are taking a long weekend getaway, and just want a steak and a cocktail with no hassle.

    Actually, any Glib with info on where we can sit at a fucking bar and drink a fucking cocktail would be appreciated.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Yes, bars and restaurants are indeed open here….for now.

      There are restrictions for indoor dining, but as it turns out its the time of year everyone wants to be outside and many restaurants here are already setup for that.

      I tend to drink at home, and only at home.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I tend to drink at home, and only at home.
        Good call, DUIs suck, people are worse

      • egould310

        Thanks for the info. We’re looking at going to Vegas, Phoenix, Denver, SLC, Boise, or Juneau. We just want a goddam cocktail, at a bar counter. Is that so fucking hard?

        This is America, goddamit!

      • Rhywun

        I saw my first propane heater setup for outdoor dining – it has been very cold this week. And that was at the fanciest restaurant in the hood. I can’t imagine how many of the other joints with outdoor dining right now are just going to be quietly folding in the new few weeks.

      • l0b0t

        Indeed. I just back from local brewery and they had the chiminea going out on the patio. Also, they still had their Rocktoberfest food provider; dinner was beer brats and fresh pretzels.

        Neph, I tried my first milkshake IPA (from said brewery), it was wonderful. Lactose is the best ‘ose.

      • Nephilium

        Glad you enjoyed it. Seems to be right up your alley. I’m not the biggest fan of them. I’ve grown to enjoy quite a few milk stouts (I hated them ~20 years ago).

      • westernsloper

        I tend to drink at home, and only at home.

        Full on alcoholic high five!

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Steak and cocktails…Durant’s. The best part is you get to experience what its like to be on the cast of Goodfellas.

      http://durantsaz.com/menus.html

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Their website sucks, which is no surprise. That place is frozen in the 1960’s

      • egould310

        “ That place is frozen in the 1960’s”

        That’s what we’re looking for.

      • dbleagle

        Durant’s was a popular place to squire your prom date in the 1970’s. A friend of mine parents both had private pilot licenses. So her dad flew her and her date flew up there from Tucson for a pre-prom dinner and flew back for the dance. At the dance he skipped out on her to smoke so weed with his stoner friends. (She became a successful attorney, he was last heard of in Minnesota as a baggage handler for Northwest.)

        A different friend and I went to a Mexican place. But after the dance the three of us (friend, prom friend and I) went to the outdoor hot place on the slopes of the Tucson mountains. I heard about Durant’s and how classy it was.

  24. Lackadaisical

    Southern tier coffee pumpkin stout is stupid good and sat 8.6%, will fuck you up too.

  25. Yusef drives a Kia

    Founders does great work in the stout category Ill look for ST,

  26. hayeksplosives

    Is DuckDuckGo the best non-google search engine?

    Google is evil, and also their attempts to finesse your search results messes up even non-political searches.

    Looking for something Windows 10 friendly and also an app for the phone would be nice.

    Any recommendations?

    • EvilSheldon

      I’ve been pretty happy with DDG.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Ddg uses the bing search engine, so not so good IMO, slightly better than google, but still MS, good luck

      • hayeksplosives

        I didn’t know that about Bing. Thanks.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Hmmm, I thought it only used the Bing API (also Google/Yahoo/Wikipedia, etc) to serve up search results but has its own crawler too.

        Its claim to privacy is what matters, as they do not log your IP address or user information and cookies are minimal. This is the reason you can do 10 searches and get almost 10 different ranked results.

      • hayeksplosives

        I think I’ll try duck duck go awhile, as long as it works with the shitty intranet at work.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        For what it’s worth, my most paranoid friend uses DDG when he’s not on the dark web.

    • Rhywun

      I’ve been using DDG for awhile but unfortunately I still find myself turning to G for more technical (say, programming) searches – DDG seems to choke on a lot of stuff like that.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Odd choice for this time of year, but being odd myself, enjoy!
      /stouts in summer

      • Nephilium

        /kicks rock for broken link

        It was a special release for Cleveland Beer Week, which is kind of limping along this year. There’s a handful of events, and several “brewery outposts” at bars around the city and suburbs. Place we went to yesterday was the Troeg’s outpost.

        I’ve still got a deep selection in the fridge which includes several porters and stouts.

  27. egould310

    “Phantasm” is a great awful horror movie. Goes well with vodka.

    • Festus' Mustache

      The chick is cute.

    • Timeloose

      Great Cuda as well.

    • Rhywun

      I love that movie. It’s out there.

  28. Festus' Mustache

    Fucked up my finger just now but jerry-rigged a bandage out of hockey tape and butt wipe. I will survive.

    • hayeksplosives

      Wow, nice alternative to Wipe-alls and electrical tape we wire heads end up field dressing with.

    • Ted S.

      As long as Festus knows how to love, he knows he’ll stay alive.

      • Nephilium

        In his mach 5?

      • Ownbestenemy

        I was thinking more his little buddy Johnny 5

      • Festus' Mustache

        +1 Gloria Gaynor

    • westernsloper

      I would go with the story that you fucked your finger up wiping your butt after dropping a half a meter log and had to use hockey tape to fix it.

  29. Festus' Mustache

    Every comment is still running to the top.

    • Libertesian

      (Nojinx) Works fine for me now on current versions of Windows 10, Chrome, and Monocle Eyepiece.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    This is America, goddamit!

    You might want to sit down, Rip Van Winkle. I’ve got something to tell you.

  31. hayeksplosives

    Greenwald also reminded Rogan’s millions of listeners how Joe Biden bullied other countries into not giving Greenwald’s friend, Edward Snowden, asylum.
    .
    .
    .

    After all, Snowden had revealed illegal surveillance carried out under Obama-Biden, not Bush-Cheney. The Obama White House subsequently pulled no punches in making this particular whistleblower’s life as difficult as possible.

    Rogan asked Greenwald during their interview, “So Joe Biden was responsible for blocking his asylum to other countries?”

    Greenwald replied, “Yeah, Joe Biden and John Kerry. They were carrying out the policy of the Obama administration, but it was Joe Biden that took the lead.”

      • Rhywun

        And then the left have the nerve to claim that Snowden is a “Russian asset” or some such BS.

        CWAA

      • Tres Cool

        “He added, “And then at the last minute, (Snowden’s) lawyers would get a call from the consulates of those countries and say ‘Joe Biden called and said that they’ll start a trade war with us or they’ll withdraw from this treaty or they’ll do this or that if we grant asylum.”

        In my head, I expect every Biden call to begin with, “Look, Fat….”
        And then a story about Corn Pop.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I posted the Greenwald article to my Facederp feed. My liberal acquaintances were noticeably silent on it.

      • Ownbestenemy

        It wasn’t even damning Biden, just asked the questions that used to get asked when hints of a story used to break.

  32. grrizzly

    England is locking down.

    “From Thursday until the start of December you must stay at home, you may only leave home for specific reasons”

    Boris Johnson announces an England-wide lockdown, saying “Now is the time to take action, because there is no alternative”

    • Ownbestenemy

      So is “Fuck off slaver” one of the specific reasons? Cause it should be.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Land of the Magna Carta everyone. Are the closing the Chunnel? Might as well take advantage of the fact that it’s an island. Like New Zealand.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        I blame multiculturalism.

      • Gadfly

        Sometimes the rot comes from without, sometimes it comes from within, and sometimes you get the double-whammy of both.

        Although, yes, in the UK’s case it clearly comes from within, as I took it you were implying. I think they’ve been on this trajectory ever since the People’s Budget of 1910. I’m sure the roots are even deeper, though.

    • hayeksplosives

      I thought Boris Johnson was supposed to be the laid back “Trump” of Britain.

      Lame. Do not recommend.

      • hayeksplosives

        All I saw was Boris making his announcement. What response am I supposed to see?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Meh. Someone said “I am glad I didn’t participate in no sober October”

      • Cancelled

        Romney would be a hardline conservative in Britain

    • DEG

      Fuck him.

  33. hayeksplosives

    A political force I hadn’t expected in San Diego is the large Chinese ex-pats, the vast majority of whom are strongly anti communist, anti leftist.

    Chinese immigrants and other oriental immigrants over 40 y.o. have no delusions of socialist ideals making a country great.

    They even have a newspaper, The Epoch Times, that gets printed and delivered, old-school. The paper is associated with the Falun Gong, but they’re not wrong on their politics.

    Plus it’s fun to see “the CCP virus” in print.

    • Rhywun

      Yeah, that paper started in NYC. I remember the little old ladies handing them out for free during my commute. But on the whole, the Dems have successfully managed to get their hooks into that community here.

      • hayeksplosives

        How have the Dems fooled them??

        Probably too many in the younger generations. They haven’t lived with socialism and communism up close and personal.

      • Viking1865

        I was talking with a younger coworker. Somehow the fracking thing entered her mind through the fog of CNN and NBC and Office Prog evangelism, and she asked me about it. Said “______ and ______ said it was all lies, but they’re really really big Democrats so I wanted to ask you.”

        I said “Remember when gas costs 4 bucks a gallon?” She said “No not really, I wasn’t driving then. I just remember seeing signs”. I said “well that was before fracking.”

      • Rhywun

        Yes, we still get huge influxes of them. There’s another Chinatown immediately east of me – my walk this morning edged into that territory and it was young families everywhere. And the Dems play their usual identity politics games to get ’em young, I guess. Most of them are not well-off and attend NYC schools, after all. Unlike their (((neighbors))).

      • Ayn Random Variation

        Another babka Chinatown?

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      I would laugh hysterically if CA surprisingly went red this year. Or any of the big traditionally blue states for that matter.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        I know it’s impossible, but if it happens in any state I would guess NJ.

      • Sensei

        Not happening.

      • Suthenboy

        A friend of mine lived in NJ. He said he paid more than 60% of his income taxes and car insurance was insanely expensive.
        I guess some people love the yoke.

      • Gadfly

        If Trump flips a traditionally blue state (improbable but not impossible) it would of course be Minnesota. That state is both reasonably close enough to not be outside of the realm of possibility and also impeccably blue (it is the state that has gone the longest without voting Republican – since 1972).

      • Drake

        Minnesota seems to be in play. New Hampshire and Maine. Maybe Iowa or Virginia.

      • DEG

        I think Trump wins New Hampshire.

        New Hampshire tends to swing back and forth, so I wouldn’t call it a traditionally Democrat state.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        I didn’t realize that. So they were the one state that went for Mondale in 1984? Why are they so blue?

      • Gadfly

        So they were the one state that went for Mondale in 1984?

        Yes.

        Why are they so blue?

        Not sure. I assume the socialist farmers movement (which was a thing) is probably to blame. Are our resident Minnesodans around to provide more insight?

      • Cancelled

        Mondale was a native son of Minnesota. They are Blue, but not more so than others.

      • hayeksplosives

        Mondale is a Minnesota favorite son.

        Minnesotans used to be reliably, politely, liberal Lutherans who’d vote Blue out of misguided compassion.

        But they also love them some hunting’.

      • Count Potato

        Why is Minnesota a blue state in the first place?

      • Lackadaisical

        Too many scandies.

      • Fourscore

        Democrat-Farmer-Labor. Southern/western MN is farm country with the subsidies. Northern MN with the union mines/miners. Throw in 1/2 the population lives in the 7 county metro area and a few other population centers with colleges (Rochester/St Cloud). Pretty soon we’re talking real numbers.

        Rest are deplorables.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        Ah. A Perfect Storm of Gov’t cheese and Smug.

      • Hyperion

        It’s so cold it turned everyone blue from frostbite. Makes sense.

    • LCDR_Fish

      The ADV China guys (Laowhy86 and Serpentza) have been addressing this in a lot of detail lately since they’ve settled in the LA area and have made some videos on local Chinese topics (scams, Epoch Times, etc). Some of it is only covered in their mostly weekly podcast, but generally good background stuff.

  34. Count Potato

    HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!

    • Mojeaux the Meandering

      Kids too old for trick or treating anyway, but XX is working and XY will be hanging out with an evangelical friend of his. We are keeping our light off and our door closed.

      That is it for the magic of Halloween forever.

      • Drake

        We’ll be by later to throw eggs.

  35. Count Potato

    I write octopodes, but say octopuses.

  36. The Late P Brooks

    Octopussy haz a sad.

    • hayeksplosives

      Maude Adams is still above the ground, so she just might have a sad.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Too soon.

    • hayeksplosives

      Now I want to watch SNL Jeopardy with Will Farrell and Darrel Hammond.

  37. Tres Cool

    GRAB IT BY THE OCTOPUSSOIR !

  38. Derpetologist

    Welp, Sam Harris just dropped a few notches in my estimation:

    https://notthebee.com/article/sam-harris-osama-bin-laden-is-far-less-reprehensible-to-me-than-trump

    ***
    “I find Trump more despicable than I found Osama bin Laden… With Osama bin Laden, it’s just obvious to me that he could have been a mensch in some sense, right? He’s making serious sacrifices for ideas that he deeply believes in. He’s committed to a cause greater than himself.”

    “I don’t doubt he had real ethical connections to the people in his life that he cared about. He’s a real person, right? And in some ways, he is kind of a moral hero in a very bad game. And so therefore, he’s kind of prototypically evil when viewed from my game. he’s a person of actual substance- he’s just committed to the wrong ends, whereas Trump is the negation of all those things.”
    ***

    Trump Derangement Syndrome – Is there anything it can’t do?

    I used to hang out on an atheist forum until it became clear that non-leftists were not welcome. Which reminds of something I read on wiki:

    ***
    One study, NASA faked the moon landing—Therefore (Climate) Science is a Hoax: An Anatomy of the Motivated Rejection of Science, gave evidence that climate change denial correlated with moon landing and 9/11 conspiracy theories, staunch beliefs in laissez-faire free-market capitalism, denial of the link between tobacco smoking and lung cancer, HIV/AIDS denialism and MLK death conspiracy theories:[14]
    ***

    One of these things is not like the others…one of these things doesn’t belong…

    Found my polling place today. Looking forward to voting in person.

    Armistice Day is almost here, so I’ll post this before I forget. I read on a plaque at the museum near the Army War College in Pennsylvania. It’s worth a stop if you’re passing by.

    ***
    At the age of fifteen John D. LaWall enlisted in the 27th U.S. Volunteer Infantry. He returned home in 1901 and wrote a brief summary of his service during the Philippine Insurrection.

    “There is a time in the life of nearly every boy when he is obsessed with the desire to become a soldier. Some boys delight to read of great battles, they are never so happy as when they are in the possession of fire-arms, and they regard the Fourth of July as the holiday of holidays. They are thus cultivating, unconsciously, their warlike propensities; so when they have an opportunity later on in their lives practically to demonstrate their tastes, they sometimes take advantage of it by enlisting. But nothing takes the romantic ideas out of a boy’s head so thoroughly as eating moldy bacon and hardtack, and nothing dampens his enthusiasm for the glamour and glitter of war so much as lying all night in the heavy rain fighting mosquitoes.”
    ***

    I remember going to an air show when I was a kid and getting a chance to sit in an Army helicopter and wear the helmet. My dad said that was the first time he saw me smile ear to ear and was convinced I would join the Army some day.

    Back to the bike. I did 36 miles yesterday and that’s plan for today. I want to finish the nerd bible aka The Lord of the Rings this weekend.

    • Gadfly

      There is a time in the life of nearly every boy when he is obsessed with the desire to become a soldier. … I remember going to an air show when I was a kid and getting a chance to sit in an Army helicopter and wear the helmet. My dad said that was the first time he saw me smile ear to ear and was convinced I would join the Army some day.

      It makes sense that there would be a common, innate trait that glories in the fight. Nature rewards those who fight and win, so if there is any aspect of the fighting spirit that is heritable evolution would undoubtedly select for that, especially in the distant past when life was nasty, brutish, and short.

      • Derpetologist

        Thomas Sowell had a rivalry with an economist from England. Sowell described the guy as nasty, British, and short.

      • Gadfly

        LOL

    • Count Potato

      “I don’t doubt he had real ethical connections to the people in his life that he cared about. He’s a real person, right? And in some ways, he is kind of a moral hero in a very bad game. And so therefore, he’s kind of prototypically evil when viewed from my game. he’s a person of actual substance- he’s just committed to the wrong ends”

      Yes, Hitler was an altruist. History is littered with evil altruists.

    • Suthenboy

      Sam Harris is a stupid asshole. A really stupid asshole. A special kind of stupid asshole. There is my kind of asshole (the kind around here) and then there is Sam Harris.
      That could be the dumbest argument he has ever made, and that’s saying something.

  39. Suthenboy

    “Which drove me to consult Merriam Webster”

    I think I see your error.

    ““There is a time in the life of nearly every boy when he is obsessed with the desire to become a soldier. ”

    Yep. And then reality hits back.

  40. Sean

    I picked up two porterhouse this morning. 3.5 lbs total.

    Tomorrow is gonna be a good day.

    • egould310

      Tomorrow is gonna be a good day. No steak in the forecast. But I get to do an inventory observation at an egg farm. Thousands of chickens, tens of thousands of eggs. They have a farm stand out on the state highway too, so I’m going to pick up a couple dozen fresh jumbo eggs.

      Gotta be there at 5am. Farm life!

    • Suthenboy

      Birthday was yesterday I was surprised to learn from Mrs. Suthenboy. She suggested steak but I declined. I tried to explain that grown men dont celebrate their own birthdays. She explained that I am a shithead and women do celebrate birthdays. Ok fine….my wish was tamales smothered in chipotle sauce and extra sharp cheddar. Yum.

      Now, thinking about it, a porterhouse sounds pretty good. Or maybe I am just hungry and wife is driving me nuts boiling shrimp and the house smells like Zatarans and shrimp.

      • Count Potato

        “the house smells like Zatarans and shrimp”

        Life could be much worse.

      • DEG

        I tried to explain that grown men dont celebrate their own birthdays.

        I think it’s OK to celebrate if it gets you laid.

      • Fourscore

        Happy Birthday, even if you don’t count them. Mrs S wants to make you feel even more special one day a year. Hope your day was as good as you wanted it to be. Many more to come.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        You’re an idiot Suthen. If your wife wants to treat you extra nice because it’s your birthday, you immediately concur and say thank you.

      • Suthenboy

        “You’re an idiot Suthen.”

        No shit?
        Intelligence is like money, you always think you dont have enough.
        Yeah, it was dumb of me.

        *I did get laid, does that count?*

  41. The Late P Brooks

    I said “Remember when gas costs 4 bucks a gallon?” She said “No not really, I wasn’t driving then. I just remember seeing signs”. I said “well that was before fracking.”

    As someone who uses hundreds of gallons of propane annually for heating, bathing and cooking, i say anybody who wants to ban fracking can kiss my ass.

    • hayeksplosives

      I don’t know where these guys think plastic comes from…

      • Fourscore

        And the fertilizer has some POL products and bagged in plastic. Every time I push a button I know that the energy comes from petro, somewhere along the line.

  42. l0b0t

    About to take the kids out Trick-Or-Treating. Somehow, going out before sundown just seems wrong. Eh, la, la… I have to work tonight; Saturday night overtime rates plus holiday bonus rate equals happy l0b0t. I’m leaving an honor bowl of candy on the porch; or, more accurately, an honor plastic tray as last year’s maskers stole the bowl.

    • Suthenboy

      “…an honor bowl of candy on the porch;”

      You have far more faith in humanity than I do.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      I’m an hour behind you. I’m about to go become a Bluehair before scaring the neighbors. (I’m going as Sully from Monsters Inc., Wife’s pregnant belly is Mike Wazowski, trashkid is the little girl Boo)

  43. Ayn Random Variation

    Re: TDS, this really is nothing new. The only difference is in degree because of how pervasive social media is now. Bush stole the election, killed blacks with a Hurricane and was literally Hitler. Reagan brought crack to the cities to kill blacks, caused AIDS, and was going to kill us all by pissing off the good old Soviet Union.

    Re: my polling station, I can hit it with a rock from my terrace, so my plan is to get there at 6:30 AM (opens at 7), hopefully be done 10 AM, and then gtfo out of this city for the rest of the week.

    • Rhywun

      I may walk over to mine around 9am and hopefully piss away a couple hours there since work says I can take up to 3 hours to vote and I really wouldn’t mind missing a couple boring meetings…. More likely, it will be the usual in and out in ten minutes. We shall see.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        They gave us the day off because most important election.

    • hayeksplosives

      In 2016, I was alone in the house on election night and I didn’t think my heart could handle seeing all the liberals preening about Herself winning, so I binge watched Grimm for 4 hours before finally peeking at the news around midnight Central.

      I couldnt believe my eyes. Could it be true? And then film footage of the slow dawning of truth on the libs began to roll.

      It was beautiful.

      • Ayn Random Variation

        Basically same here, except I fell asleep early. I woke up in the middle of the night to a bunch of OMG texts and spent the next couple of days laughing my ass off. The blind, impotent fury at work the next day was beautiful.

      • dbleagle

        I came back from a day elk hunting in Washington. No TV where I was staying but I kept updating RealClearPolitics until it was called. The next day on the pickup’s radio I heard about the riots in Portland. I was an idiot and thought that the Dems would soon settle down and logically look at why they lost. Boy, was I wrong.

      • Hyperion

        I’ll never forget that night. I was drunk as a dawg at 5am that morning, watching the CNN election night coverage, over and over again and falling out of my chair laughing.

        One of my friends went to bed early and the next morning he got up and his wife said ‘Donald Trump is president’., lol, he was a little surprised.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    I am the LAW

    With new coronavirus cases soaring and hospitals at capacity, a Texas judge issued a shelter-in-place order that shuts down nonessential businesses for El Paso and its surrounding areas.

    The order, which calls for hair salons, gyms and restaurant dine-in services to close, went into effect just before midnight Friday local time. It is set to expire at 11:59 p.m. on Nov. 11.

    The state’s attorney general quickly denounced the order, who said the judge had no authority to enact such a measure.

    El Paso County Judge Ricardo Samaniego said in a statement Thursday that the county “has never seen this level of high infection rates of COVID-19 cases throughout our community.”

    Something something now let him enforce it.

    • Ayn Random Variation

      That’s about as constitutional and enforceable as me telling him to eat my ass.

      • Tres Cool

        *HM to the courtesy phone

    • Rhywun

      the county “has never seen this level of high infection rates of COVID-19 cases throughout our community.”

      Prove it.

      • Suthenboy

        Yep. I want to go to the ICU unit and see the victims and their charts.

      • Rhywun

        I want one of these clowns to admit they have no fucking idea what the “infection rate” was six months ago because hardly anyone was getting tested.

      • Suthenboy

        Did you see the Oregon state spokesthing yesterday announcing cootie numbers with clown makeup on?
        Did you see that fruitloop Faucci telling everyone that we are in an age of pandemics and we have to learn to live in harmony with nature….whatever the fuck that means.

      • Sean

        Yes. Unreal.

  45. Hyperion

    Just got back from voting. Not a lot of people there, no lines, but few voters out voting today.

    I’m not sure what district that school is in (voting is in the gymnasium), but I would think it is a deeper than deep blue area. There are Trump and Kim Klacik signs everywhere. Did not see one Biden sign. There are 2 Trump/Pence signs right in front of the door where you enter. All the workers were super nice, so we cast our ballots for BAD ORANGE MAN! KAGA, bitches!

    • Ayn Random Variation

      I have not seen one Trump anything displayed in public. Today, I did see a woman in the elevator of my building wearing a Biden Harris mask. I asked if she was voting for Trump. She just gave me a nasty look. No laugh or anything. She’s probably writing a strongly worded email to Building Mngmt.

      • Rhywun

        Donald got roughly 1/3 of the vote in my census thingie (i.e. the surrounding couple blocks). Yet aside from one sign for the GOP lady running for Congress this year, I see only signs for Biden and other Dems. Not a lot of them, mind you. *something something stated something revealed something*

      • Hyperion

        Not sure where you’re at. There are 2 Trump signs in my small community, zero Biden signs.

    • creech

      Not one political sign on any lawn in my little (35 homes) community. Haven’t seen one car with a bumper sticker either. Except for mine, with a Jorgensen sticker. Surrounding roads, however, convince me that the sign printing business is doing crazy volume. No one seems to be stealing signs either.

  46. Not Adahn

    Just when I think I’m not a filthy hipster foodie, I make dinner and realize I know everyone by name involved with the ingredients.

    Smoked pork shops, Brussels sprouts, spaetzle.

  47. But Enough About My Wild Culinary Fantasies

    Further upthread, hayeksplosives wrote:

    Is DuckDuckGo the best non-google search engine?

    I don’t know what’s “best,” but a search engine I consult regularly when I get pissed off at the same-old, same-old of Google is MillionShort at https://millionshort.com/.

    It’s got an interesting way of allowing you to vary your search results to strip out the stuff that’s been artificially promoted etc.

    • hayeksplosives

      Thanks!

  48. Festus' Mustache

    Whelp the rednecks are doing the fireworks again. My poor little dog is trying her best to crawl up her own asshole. A doggy-singularity, if you will. Poor pupper.

    • Not Adahn

      Surely someone here knows how they train gun dogs to not freak out about noises. Do they develop hearing problems since they don’t wear earpro?

    • Rhywun

      The clowns driving around with the modified mufflers are going nuts today. Just constantly back and forth all day long. I mean, that’s every day, but it’s even worse than usual today.

      Maybe it’s just me but I’ve never understood the appeal of being a colossal asshole to everyone around you.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Them and the Harley guys.

      • Rhywun

        I’ve done exactly that, only with some vulgar hand-gestures too.

    • Rhywun

      I… what?

  49. Suthenboy

    Ugh. Wife is watching ‘Lovecraft Country’.

    The first episode was watchable, the following were abortions of abortions.

    • Hyperion

      If that’s a made for TV series, I’ve never seen one I could watch. I’ve had several friends tell me ‘You have to watch this new series, it’s so good!’. And every time I’ve tried it was nothing but a bunch of woke garbage from the get go. My wife watches a lot of that stuff, I just do not watch TV at all. If it wasn’t for her, I’d cancel Sling as well, it’s all worthless.

  50. grrizzly

    Costco samples are back. But you have to consume them outside the warehouse.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Whats the fucking point?

    • Festus' Mustache

      In POG form?

  51. Not Adahn

    In Christopher Durang’s The Idiots Karamazov, there is an extended bit where Constance Garret conjugates the Russian verb “to be murdered with a pestle.”

  52. Sean

    Gf is all happy. She just got a couple trick or treaters.

    • Count Potato

      Practice for deer season?

      • Sean

        ?

        Only two critters she said she would shoot – hate birds and feral hogs.

      • Count Potato

        They have feral hogs in PA?

      • Sean

        I think so (on a private hunting reserve), but we were looking at a place in WV.

        Just as a once off kind of thing. Possibly with a another couple.

  53. Count Potato

    “First lady Melania Trump does not have a body double,

    BuzzFeed News and USA Today report There is no evidence to support the conspiracy theory that the White House uses a Melania Trump body double for public appearances, according to BuzzFeed News, USA Today and Snopes.”

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1322283021869801473

    Although it would make a heck of a three-way.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Oh they investigated a conspiracy theory…bad Buzzfeed…bad!

    • Hyperion

      Melania is a perfect example of the tolerant left’s love for all immigrants. The Rose Garden thing for example.

    • Festus' Mustache

      They can loan either of them to me for an hour or so. We’ll have some tea and biscuits. A friendly chat.

  54. Ownbestenemy

    For a snack I seered up a Ahi Tuna steak with just salt pepper anf lemon for the teens. They devoured it.

    • westernsloper

      Wow. My pre nap snack was a bologna sandwich with bleu cheese.

      • Hyperion

        When I was growing up, we have bologna (pronounced baloney, the correct American way to say it), with American cheese.

        You un-American elitist commies and your fancy bleu cheese! And you can’t even spell blue right!

    • westernsloper

      Next time do the sesame seed roll and serve with soy and wasabi. That is one of my fav’s. 30 sec a side.

  55. Count Potato

    “Another laptop tied to Hunter Biden was reportedly obtained by the Drug Enforcement Administration earlier this year.

    Sources told NBC News that the device belonging to the 50-year-old son of former Vice President Joe Biden, who is now a presidential candidate, was taken into custody by the DEA in February while executing a search warrant in the Massachusetts office of a psychiatrist who was accused of professional misconduct.

    That former celebrity psychiatrist, Keith Ablow, saw his medical license suspended after he faced allegations of sexually exploiting patients and illegally diverting prescription drugs. Ablow has denied the allegations and has not been charged with any crime.

    The report from NBC on Friday said Hunter Biden was not a target of the search or the investigation, and his lawyer got the laptop back. It remains unclear why the device was there in the first place.”

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/another-hunter-biden-laptop-taken-into-custody-during-dea-raid-report

    How many laptops did he own?

    • Rhywun

      He does seem rather forgetful. Maybe this one replaced the one he forgot at the repair shop.

      • westernsloper

        Now I am wondering how many laptops I have left around the world.

      • Festus' Mustache

        No worries, Friend! *taps nose*

    • Not Adahn

      Well, he kept leaving them at repair shops and having to buy new ones.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Crack pipes get gummy and lap-tops get scummy.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s hard to keep those viruses off the computer when you’re on dark web porn sites.

      • But Enough About My Wild Culinary Fantasies

        He probably wanted the latest and greatest, just like people who slobber all over the newest smartphone from whomever.

    • Suthenboy

      He is doing that on purpose whether he knows it or not.
      I would see the FBI agents that had the first one in prison.

      • egould310

        He wants to get caught. Guilty conscience.

  56. Not Adahn
    • Count Potato

      “15% of every sale goes to support the Southern Poverty Law Center to promote racism and hate in the United States”

      FTFY

  57. Nephilium

    I’m about to go sit on my front porch to hand out candy to the beggars children who are allowed to head out. So, link for tonight’s Zoom/Happy Hour/Zardoz watch party. If someone could share it in the next thread, I would appreciate it. I’m planning on kicking it off at 20:00 Eastern.

  58. Suthenboy

    I am sure someone has announced this already but since I have not been able to keep up lately I have to say how sad I am about this: Sean Connery has died.
    I didnt know the guy, never met him, but for some reason it is the end of an era. He was eminently likable for an actor. The guy was an icon and this makes me feel even older than I already felt.

    All accounts say he died in his sleep. At least there it that.
    Thank God we still have Lou Reed.