Monday Déjà Vu Afternoon Links

by | Oct 19, 2020 | Daily Links | 273 comments

Have we seen this before?

In a completely never-before-seen post, I bring you Links for this Afternoon!

The world continues to be a mad, mad, mad, mad place. Need evidence? OK, here you go…

  • Next time, try a DM on Twitter. More likely to notice that.
  • But I see so much CCP tongue bathing in our own press…why would this student do this?
  • No?! Really? I shocked!
  • New York continues to empty the prisons.

See, I told you so!

Go do your commenting magic, Glibs.

 

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273 Comments

  1. Yusef drives a Kia

    my Signal Sucks! WTFhappened?
    Howdy!

  2. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Should I be wearing pants while commenting? Recent events have caused me to question my normal routine.

    • grrizzly

      I still don’t know all the juicy details. Exactly what was shown thru Zoom?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Toobin’s tuber

      • Rebel Scum

        Playing with himself?

    • Gadfly

      As they say, treat all cameras as on and all guns as loaded. Is there a camera present? Then pants. (or a camera shield, if you can’t pants).

  3. UnCivilServant

    Deja vu all over again.

    • leon

      I hate you.

      • UnCivilServant

        Why? The repetiton adds to the effect.

      • Gadfly

        Why? It’s actually funnier IMO to have these two posts back-to-back.

      • Gadfly

        LOL. Nice cross-post with UCS. This is shaping up to be some thread.

      • leon

        LOL. This is getting funnier and funnier.

      • Rebel Scum
      • Ted S.

        Ooh, a Soviet movie about Chicago gangsters.

  4. leon

    It’s Deja Vu all over again

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Sure seems familiar

  5. grrizzly

    “I don’t want to die. If someone will try to pull this rope, I will jump and die,” the man said, panning the camera down for a view of the Chicago River.

    He should have been ignored.

  6. Rebel Scum

    IL women.

    Two women from Wisconsin are in police custody after Chicago cops and federal agents caught them drugging men in River North bars this weekend, according to a source. Charges are expected to be announced tonight or Tuesday.

    CPD detectives teamed up with the U.S. Marshals Service to put the women under surveillance for days after Chicago authorities identified an on-going drug-induced robbery pattern in the area. CWBChicago is not naming the women because they have not yet been charged with any crime.

    Cops and deputy marshals arrested the two women around 1 a.m. Sunday near LaSalle and Hubbard Streets as area bars closed for the night, the source said. Investigators “caught them redhanded drugging men on both Friday and Saturday this weekend,” the source continued.

    • Ted S.

      They didn’t need to drug the Illinoisans, just have them drink as much as Sconnies. The men would have been under the table long before then.

  7. Ted S.

    Have we seen this before?

    Yes. The $350,000 is buried under the big W, that being Wyoming

    • leon

      There are bears in Italy?

      • Pope Jimbo

        Ugly American Alert!

        You think that they are all otters and twinks in Italy?

      • Seguin

        Yeah. Gran Sasso national park. Right next to my old stomping grounds (Massa d’Albe).

        Pretty rare though. Marsican brown bear. Iirc the only population of brown bears left in western Europe.

    • Gadfly

      Wow. Kid’s got nerves of steel.

    • R C Dean

      That looks like one huge bear, too.

    • grrizzly

      I would have come closer to the bear to snap a better picture.

    • Bobarian LMD

      The poop smell would definitely affect the bear.

  8. Gadfly

    But I see so much CCP tongue bathing in our own press…why would this student do this?

    I’m glad some of the anti-commies are able to escape. The US could do with some more of that sort, I wonder if we are offering asylum to any of those protesters as well?

    Also, I hate the way that headline was phrased. Why “Hong Kong protester says granted asylum in Germany” instead of “Hong Kong protester granted asylum in Germany” or “Hong Kong protester says they were granted asylum in Germany”, Reuters? The one they went with just sounds clunky.

    • Tonio

      Why would there be anti-communists? That’s just crazy talk. /antifa apologist

    • Caput Lupinum

      Trump added Hong Kong to the U.S. list of targeted groups for asylum assistance last month.

      Refugee resettlement is only one aspect of U.S. humanitarian-based immigration efforts. Since 1980, America has welcomed almost 3.8 million refugees and asylees, and our country hosts hundreds of thousands more people under other humanitarian immigration categories. This year’s proposed refugee resettlement program continues that legacy with specific allocations for people who have suffered or fear persecution on the basis of religion; for Iraqis whose assistance to the United States has put them in danger; for refugees from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras; and for refugees from Hong Kong, Cuba, and Venezuela.

      • Gadfly

        Good. Also, thanks for enacting my labor for me. 🙂

      • Pope Jimbo

        I guess that is OK, as long as it doesn’t reduce the number of refugees from Somalia, Sudan and other wonderful places like that. Our vibrant community doesn’t want/need any wily pro-freedom Chinese refugees fucking things up.

    • leon

      Why would we give asylum to counter-revolutionaries and fascists who oppose the people? They should be in the gulags!

      • leon

        forgot the /Angela Davis

  9. The Late P Brooks

    Somebody linked an excellent piece at AIER this morning. Once there, I found this:

    There is no correlation between lockdown measures deployed and disease outcome because we are witnessing natural disease progression. Flu does not move in a purely predictable pattern, it is always more severe in one country or city than it is in the next. Attributing these outcomes to human agency — fewer infections means “we did good,” many infections means “we did bad” — is tantamount to attributing the sunrise to an effective sun dance.This is a reversion to superstition and mythology, a descent back into darkness. All other epidemics in history went away without “suppression” and universal mask usage. We never before believed politicians had the power to “save us from death,” possibly because they never had the hubris to claim power over obvious truisms like “my mother is not expendable, your mother is not expendable.” Once we believe our governors can save our mothers, we accept each and every authoritarian policy they say they “need” to deploy to do that.

    Authoritarian policies never made anyone better off. If we really care about saving lives, we can do that by realizing we should not be giving politicians credit for natural outcomes. They know we like to attribute agency to natural phenomenons: this evolutionary mechanism once helped us survive a dangerous world, and it is still easily exploited. Diseases always eventually go away, so politicians who “take them seriously” are assured of a day when they will be able to declare: “We defeated this together! Go team!” Don’t fall for it. You will be Skinner’s superstitious pigeon.

    ——-

    There is no causal relationship between the lockdown policy of any politician of any party and disease outcome. Strong lockdowns often led to worse results than no lockdowns. Looking at the “good outcomes” of New Zealand or Japan and saying they worked, while refusing to acknowledge that Michigan had a stricter lockdown and a much worse result, is like flapping your left wing while hopping on your right, little pigeon.

    Something something great minds…

    Where’s my hat tip?

    • Idle Hands

      She’s been on this the whole time. All this was completely predictable, as I said in the beginning this was the perfect gov problem to solve through intervention because literally everything they do eventually can be shown to have worked and if it doesn’t it’s because the rubes didn’t follow the rules. There’s a reason they never put up benchmarks for what success looked like in March.

    • Rhywun

      fewer infections means “we did good,” many infections means “we did bad”

      Aiiieeee that one really sets my teeth on edge. It could be a direct quote from the Luv Guv.

  10. Idle Hands

    https://twitter.com/PollWatch2020/status/1318229633767141376

    A follow up to our previous tweet about Gallup’s Party Affiliation findings:

    Now it is R+1 (28R to 27D)

    This time in 2016 it was D+5 (R27 to D32)

    6-pt shift.

    In 2012 it was D+4

    somewhat interesting.

    • Gadfly

      So that leaves 45% unaffiliated. That’s where elections are decided.

      Although that shift does explain the apparent enthusiasm gap between Biden and Trump supporters.

      • R C Dean

        A few more Repubs, a lot fewer Dems.

        Sounds about right, given the rioting and the hard left turn the Dems are taking.

      • Surly Knott

        I continue to believe that a whole lot of people vote against, not for.
        That seems the best explanation for Trump’s win over Hillary. Unfortunately, it bodes ill for this go-round (imnsho).

    • WTF

      Yet most polls are around D+8.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      Now it is R+1 (28R to 27D)

      Those both seem low to me. I’m curious what their threshold is. What I’ve seen in the past is ~35% guaranteed R voters, ~40% guaranteed D voters, and a conservative leaning independent vote.

      • Gadfly

        The low numbers are party identification, while the numbers you mention are typical behavior. There are a lot of people who lean towards a party but don’t identify as a supporter.

  11. The Late P Brooks

    Boy calmly walks away during a close encounter with a wild brown bear

    I hope there wasn’t a sammich in that bag.

  12. Rebel Scum

    Science!

    Reminder that you don’t get to proclaim yourself “pro-science” if you’re perfectly fine w/ @Twitter censoring heterodox scientists like Dr. Scott Altas

    • leon

      Nuh Uh! Cause he says things that are false! Sure i won’t point them out, but yeah.

      Also we need lockdowns, don’t listen to the WHO

      • C. Anacreon

        One of the Twitter replies to that says “Atlas isn’t even a real doctor, he’s a radiologist!”

        *facepalm*

      • Bill (Door) Baggins (a Skellington)

        I saw that too. Isn’t “faux-chi” just an allergy specialist? I thought I had read that a while back. Maybe an appeal to authority isn’t always the best option.

      • R C Dean

        He’s never practiced medicine since getting his license. He trained as an internal medicine (primary care) doc.

      • Sensei

        Just like Trump’s DO!

      • C. Anacreon

        Thankfully enough, late last week a number of top medical organizations combined on a position statement to remind that a DO degree is essentially equivalent to a MD, and no negative assumptions should be made about DOs. I appreciated that because it’s obviously a response to public ridicule of Trump’s doc being a DO, and amazingly was co-written by some groups that are typically reflexively anti-Trump. I’m an MD myself, but have gone to several DOs in my life, and never even really thought about it until recently because of all this….they were just docs like any other doc.

    • Chafed

      “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

      “And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth.”

      George Orwell, 1984

    • Pope Jimbo

      What are you talking about? You can silence heretics and be pro-science (as long as you rehabilitate them 350 years later).

      You don’t even have to admit you were wrong.

      In 1633, the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church forced Galileo Galilei, one of the founders of modern science, to recant his theory that the Earth moves around the Sun. Under threat of torture, Galileo – seen facing his inquisitors – recanted. But as he left the courtroom, he is said to have muttered, ‘all the same, it moves’.

      Last week, 359 years later, the Church finally agreed. At a ceremony in Rome, before the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, Pope John Paul II officially declared that Galileo was right. The formal rehabilitation was based on the findings of a committee of the Academy the Pope set up in 1979, soon after taking office. The committee decided the Inquisition had acted in good faith, but was wrong.

      Look, our hearts were in the right place when we threatened that smug know it all with torure.

      • R C Dean

        The formal rehabilitation was based on the findings of a committee of the Academy the Pope set up in 1979

        It only took them 40 years?

      • mexican sharpshooter

        13. The article is from 1992

    • Ownbestenemy

      Heh those are funny. The Bee is a national treasure during these times.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Collateral damage

    Commercial real estate is in trouble, and turbulence in the $15 trillion market is threatening to bleed over into the broader financial system just as the U.S. struggles to emerge from a recession.

    The longer the pandemic paralyzes hotels, retailers and office buildings, the more difficult it is for property owners to meet their mortgage payments — raising the specter of widespread downgrades, defaults and eventual foreclosures. As companies like J.C. Penney, Neiman Marcus and Pier 1 file for bankruptcy, retail properties are losing major tenants with no clear plan to replace them, while hotels are running below 50 percent occupancy.

    ——-

    The loss of paying tenants could touch off a wave of property write-downs and eventual foreclosures on everything from shopping centers to apartment buildings. But it’s not just a pocket of wealthy investors who will get hurt by widespread write-downs. Eighty-seven percent of public pension funds and 73 percent of private pension funds hold real estate investments.

    Borrowers seeking loan relief or considering refinancing are also running into trouble, as the uncertainty caused by the virus has left them with no clear projection of future revenue streams for their buildings.

    It’s a small price to pay, to keep Grandma Cuomo alive for a few more months.

    • R C Dean

      Precisely as predicted at the beginning of this whole lockdown clusterhump.

    • WTF

      The pandemic is not paralyzing hotels, retailers, and office buildings, Democrat governors are.

      • R C Dean

        Plenty of Repub govs on the lockdown train.

      • WTF

        Most of them are less draconian and are opening up their states, however.

    • Idle Hands

      the second order impacts from this are going to be cataclysmic.

      • Rhywun

        But if the Microsoft commercial I’m watching right now is any indication, everyone is happily working from home now. Garages become workshops! Closets become classrooms! I don’t know where all this doom and gloom is coming from.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Nothing pisses me off more than those types of commercials. See also the dumb CBS show ad where they’re begging for more lockdown because it’s so much fun…

        Thats not pissing on my leg and telling me its raining. It’s shitting on my leg and telling me that I’m insane for being offended.

      • Fatty Bolger

        It’s “staycations” all over again. Remember that garbage?

    • Drake

      “Trouble” is too weak a word. They are doomed. Commercial office space is screwed beyond all hope.

      • Rhywun

        I just ended my work day with a required “business continuity” training video. One of the subtopics was how do we cope if the office has to close. “How quaint,” I thought. I hear some masochistic folks are returning to my office but I don’t see myself ever going back unless they drag me kicking and screaming.

      • C. Anacreon

        I was just talking to a very woke San Francisco couple this weekend who were insisting that no, commercial real estate is not in any trouble, because corporations are now seeing how much they miss the employee interaction and creativity it generates, so they will return to everyone in the office as soon as they can.

        I just nodded and smiled. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It would have been easier for them to say “I don’t know anybody in commercial real estate.”

      • Rhywun

        Drop the mask requirements and temperature checks and I’ll go back. Otherwise… no, thank you.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Once people began doing their shopping online, commercial real estate was going to take a hit eventually. The lockdowns just sped up the process.

  14. DEG

    “I chose to flee from Hong Kong because I knew I wouldn’t be given a fair trial,”

    Wouldn’t get a fair trial? I’m certain the trials in Beijing-controlled Hong Kong are very fair… for certain definitions of “fair”.

    • R C Dean

      I suppose a process that delivers exactly the same outcome every time is “fair” – everyone gets treated the same, right?

      • peachy rex

        Cardassian justice.

      • Rhywun

        LOL read my mind

  15. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    Fun story: I’m part of a group that is reviewing resumes for our summer intern program. As a department that really struggles to find and retain qualified women, we’re consistently under scrutiny during hiring decisions, and there’s an unwritten (but constantly spoken) rule that women get a fairly strong thumb on the scale in their favor.

    In the abstract, I don’t really care. As long as we’re filtering among a pool of qualified candidates, we’re going to get somebody we can work with.

    The issue is that the job fair we’re filtering from isn’t a pool of qualified candidates. There are some who are objectively unqualified, some who are not competitive even if technically qualified, and some who are well qualified. Well, we got direction from on high to leave a spot open for a candidate who was in the middle group. She wasn’t objectively eliminated from consideration, but she wasn’t particularly qualified (nor interested in the job that she applied for, based on her cover letter), except for the vagina factor and the fact that a somewhat famous professor at her school wrote a form letter to all employers at this fair advocating for the students at his school.

    We’re going to end up interviewing her at the the cost of interviewing somebody better qualified, and she has no chance of actually getting the job because she doesn’t want it and she’s not going to beat out the better qualified candidates for it. Meanwhile, there are a few better qualified women who got the traditional “thumb on the scale” treatment (or didn’t need the thumb) who are likely to be first on the chopping block to give this girl an interview slot.

    Yay inclusion and diversity! Your perverse incentives just removed a qualified female candidate and replaced her with an unqualified female candidate!

  16. Rebel Scum

    Drumpfler is clearly going to be steamrolled by Biden-mania.

    Thousands of vehicles participated in a Trump Road Rally on Saturday afternoon in a Philadelphia suburb.

    An estimated 6,700 vehicles joined the Bikers, Cars and Truckers 4 Trump Road Rally according to a Facebook post from the event’s organizer.

    Pennsylvania’s First District ‘People4Trump’ Political Action Committee’s Jim Worthington organized the road rally in Newtown, Pennsylvania with help from Linda Mitchell, according to People4Trump’s official website.

    “We’re fighting for America. We’re fighting for the soul of America…even those people that hate us…we’re fighting for them,” said Worthington in a kick-off speech at the event.

    • PBRstreetgang

      I was a few miles away from Newtown on Saturday afternoon and though I didn’t see any of this Trump parading, I did stumble on the Women’s March near Swarthmore College. Maybe 300-400 participants, very passionate, but their hodge-podge of issues (BLM, “Believe Science”, RBG, Handmaids Tale cloaks, Citizens United, etc) is really confusing, they could use some message discipline.

      • Trolleric the Goth

        well yeah, it’s Swarthmore we’re talking about here

      • PBRstreetgang

        Oh for sure. It looked like the average march participant graduated from Swarthmore about 40 years ago.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Dang. That demographic will actually vote. The Swarthmore grads from 2010 to now probably won’t be bothered to go vote.

  17. Gadfly

    Interesting 2020 story: School district to dismiss two students for remote-learning from out of state

    The gist: dad takes his kids out of state to visit relatives, decides to stay while renting out his New York home on air-b-n-b, but still has his kids enrolled in the New York school because they are just doing distance learning. School finds out and boots kids, dad cries foul since the house is still technically his residence and he still pays taxes to the school. I wonder how frequently this has happened during this crazy year?

    • Ted S.

      That school district really cares about the kids, doesn’t it?

      • leon

        Second time i was beaten to the punch today.

    • leon

      Remember stories like this when Teachers talk about how they need X amount of funding more “For the students” and “Students are our biggest investment”.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Well first mistake is trying to be honest with a government agency.

      • Gadfly

        True.

    • Ownbestenemy

      “Pretty Little Thing” one out of three in the description is not good.

    • The Gunslinger

      Nope. Killer physique.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    The lack of clarity over a property’s current value is particularly important for loans diced up and bundled into securities held by investors. A bank can give a borrower short-term relief and reassess the issue in a few months, while a borrower whose loan has been packaged into a security has to go through a more complex process to get various investors’ approvals to adjust payments.

    Special servicers have to model future payments for the bondholders, a difficult task when it’s not clear what a building is worth now or whether it will be bringing in revenue anytime soon.

    “That’s where the whole thing is breaking down — not knowing the value of a property,” said Michael Bright, CEO of the Structured Finance Association, a trade group representing 370 companies involved in securitization. “It’s a pretty important input and nobody knows.”

    A few trillion her, a few trillion there, we’ll have things patched up in no time.

  19. Pope Jimbo

    George Floyd never had a chance!

    You know I can agree that it is total bullshit that Floyd had trouble with the cops over drug possession. I don’t have to feel bad for him, though, because he did time for an armed home invasion (and I don’t really believe his cell mates contention that Floyd was innocent of that charge).

    The story is frustrating because it covers a lot of important issues like the perverse incentives around private prisons. But of course, they have to make those points in the context that George Floyd was an angel who was killed by The Man because he was black.

    • Gadfly

      The story is frustrating because it covers a lot of important issues like the perverse incentives around private prisons. But of course, they have to make those points in the context that George Floyd was an angel who was killed by The Man because he was black.

      Nuance is often the first casualty in narrative building. Sometimes an asshole gets wrongly killed by a cop who is also an asshole. I had a POS cousin who got killed by the cops a while back (in a situation that was enough of a gray area that no charges were filed but his family did get a payout). Him being a POS didn’t mean he deserved to get shot, but him getting shot didn’t make him any less of a POS.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I wish we lived in a world where saying this wouldn’t make you the target of vitriol from almost all sides.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        A Trumptard/Libtard would say that.

    • Rhywun

      He is a Harvard University graduate.

      *snort*

  20. Pope Jimbo

    I always want to know more about stories about workplace discrimination like this. I wonder how many of them are simply settled because $165K is far cheaper than fighting it in court. My suspicion is always that the “victim” is always a bad worker who was run off more because they were a shit heel than any other reason.

    I’d also like to know more about the test that they used to fail this brave female truck driver who was trying to fight her way back from injury. Is it a legit test? Or is it some crazy test that has no real way of making sure she can safely drive?

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      I wonder how many of them are simply settled because $165K is far cheaper than fighting it in court.

      Near 100%. If they settle for less than a quarter mil, that’s nuisance settlement money, no question.

  21. Fourscore

    ““That’s where the whole thing is breaking down — not knowing the value of a property,”

    Have an auction, that’ll determine the value of the property. Only worth what someone else will pay for it.

  22. Count Potato

    “Eight black former Iowa football players demand $20 million and the firing of head coach Kirk Ferentz ‘after enduring racist discrimination’ – but the school refuses to comply

    In June, the athletic department cut ties with longtime strength and conditioning coach Chris Doyle (in black), who received $1.1 million in a severance agreement. Doyle, who earned $800,000 per year and was the highest paid strength and conditioning coach in college football, has denied any ‘unethical behavior or bias’ based on race. Under the separation agreement, Doyle will be paid 15 months’ salary and for unused vacation. There will be two payments of $556,249.50 – the first on August 1 and the second on January 1. Doyle agreed not to take any legal action against the university, the board of regents or state of Iowa

    The report said many black players did not feel welcome or supported in the program. Players reported that they were long not allowed to wear ‘do-rags,’ tank tops, earrings or other jewelry in the football building and were discouraged from getting tattoos or having certain hair styles. Black players said they felt singled out. Ferentz (front, facing left) eliminated rules on jewelry and hats and instructed his staff not to critique hair styles or tattoos last year after an athletic department review raised racial bias concerns”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8853621/Iowa-says-wont-pay-ex-players-demand-20-million.html

    • R C Dean

      Black players said they felt singled out.

      Apparently, the answer to the question “Well, were they?” is of no interest to anyone.

    • WTF

      So white guys were allowed to wear jewelry, tank tops, get tattoos, etc? Because if not then this has nothing to do with race.

      • kinnath

        No, those white guys were appropriating black culture. So it was justice when they were banned from wearing jewelry or tank tops or getting tattoos.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        But tattoos and jewelry and wife beaters are integral to being black. They’re literally born with pierced ears and tattoos.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Snark aside, we all know exactly what they were targeting and exactly who is most likely to participate in that culture. However culture =/= race.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Although all of those have migrated to mainstream just like tattoos.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I wonder if he employed the very latest in Iowegian technology? (NSFW)

      Those whiny black guys probably complained about having to use that equipment despite the fact that local Iowegian boys have to use the regular old natural stuff like Rocky training in some snowy Ruskie barn.

      • Suthenboy

        This is news to who? That’s been a thing forever.

      • Pope Jimbo

        You’ve lived a more worldly life than I have Suthen. I’ve been pestering all the Iowegians I know about this today.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Oops, clicked too soon.

        I was going to say that for Europeans, something like this has been around since 1492 at best.

  23. Gadfly

    An interesting story from FiveThirtyEight: Trump Is Losing Ground With White Voters But Gaining Among Black And Hispanic Americans

    The main take-away is that white women are getting off the Trump Train while non-white men are getting on. I wonder if this is Trump specific or part of a larger trend. There are other interesting tid-bits, such as that Trump has gained support among the college educated and (surprisingly) among the “younger” set (under 45s) across the board, while losing support among non-college whites. It will be interesting to see if these poll trends hold up, and what that will mean to the election results.

    • Lord Humungus

      I think a many of a statistician suffers from the same sort of mental outlook as a socialist. They believe they can squeeze enough information out of a poll to find the truth. That would depend, obviously, on the quality of the poll, your own bias, and a few other variables.

      Tea leaves probably have a better chance of picking the winner.

      ‘The ultimate flaw in FiveThirtyEight, and all election forecasting, is the belief that there is a method to correct for all the limitations in the polls. There isn’t.’
      https://medium.com/@Soccermatics/why-fivethirtyeight-predictions-dont-beat-prediction-markets-9d619b8c1c1e

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        ‘The ultimate flaw in FiveThirtyEight, and all election forecasting, is the belief that there is a method to correct for all the limitations in the polls. There isn’t.’

        *standing ovation*

  24. Heroic Mulatto

    Updog.

    • R C Dean

      The Toobin thread is up there, HM.

      • Heroic Mulatto

      • Gadfly

        That post deserves a round of applause.

      • Count Potato

        That pic is huge.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

      • B.P.

        Awesome.

        Now someone needs to do a Toobin-related “View of the World from Ninth Avenue.”

      • Chipwooder

        Hey, finally a New Yorker cartoon that makes sense! No more cribbing from Ziggy.

  25. Shpip

    So early Friday morning I finally got a WuFlu test. The good news is that I’m Commie Cough negative. The bad news was I got the test because everyone admitted to Big College research hospital has to get one, and I tested positive for STEMI.

    Being like any other man, only more so, I shook off this cowardly attempt on my life with a little angioplasty and a stent. I was back home less than 37 hours after admission.

    Still, 0/10 do not recommend.

    • Heroic Mulatto

      Wow, Lady Luck was on your side.

      • Shpip

        Yeah, this could’ve been a lot worse. I had a CABG x3 thirteen years ago, and did all the changes that the docs recommended: stopped smoking, better diet (no more 24oz ribeyes for this guy), more exercise, quit the stressful job, took all my Rxs.

        My reward was an MI at 53.

        Fortunately for me, one of the nice things about living in Big College Town is the Big College hospital ten minutes from my house, filled with all the latest machines that go ping and staffed with the pros from Dover who know how to use said machines.

        Having Mrs. Shpip be on the faculty of said Big College Med School didn’t hurt, either.

      • ElspethFlashman

        Hoping for continued good things for you.

      • peachy rex

        That’s the way to do it. The Old Man was in Rangoon when his ticker went wobbly. He was medevaced to Singapore for surgery, then spent months working from a Bangkok hotel room. Eventually his org’s medical people pulled his clearance and he had to retire for good.

    • The Other Kevin

      Good to hear you’re ok. It’s nothing short of miraculous how they can take care of heart problems now. My dad had a heart attack in the 80’s. He ended up with multiple bypasses and a very long recovery. He most definitely was not out in 37 hours.

      • Mojeaux the Malevolent

        Mine died at 51 of an MI. Doc said he had several small dead spots on his heart, which meant that wasn’t his first.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I’m glad to hear that the Grim Reaper wasn’t allowed to collect your soul because of the Rona Restrictions.

        My father has collapsed a few times for unknown reasons. The first time they put in a defibrillator in him just because. When they were talking about it, I was of the opinion that that was a big deal, but the doc said it was a nothing operation. Times have changed I guess.

        Make sure they give you at least one official looking medicine bottle. You can fill it up with tic tacs and then anytime there is some hard work or heavy lifting to be done all you have to do is say “hold on a sec and let me take a couple of these heart pills and I’ll be ready to help”. Anywhere except Fourscore’s Honey Harvest that will ensure that everyone else tells you to go sit down while the hard work is done.

      • R C Dean

        When they were talking about it, I was of the opinion that that was a big deal, but the doc said it was a nothing operation.

        Pretty much. We do them in our cath lab. In and out the same day, most times.

    • DEG

      I’m glad you go through it.

      • DEG

        whoa. That’s a bad type-o. And I just noticed it. Sorry.

        “you got through it”.

    • Gustave Lytton

      So beat covid and cardiomyopathy. Gonna need one more for a full hat trick.

      Joking aside, holy crap. Glad you’re still here.

      • Sensei

        +1. Glad you are back

    • Count Potato

      Hope you are feeling better.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Congratulations?

      Glad you’re ok.

    • Suthenboy

      Huh. Imagine that.

      Foreseeable consequences are not unintended.

    • Count Potato

      Let’s be honest here. The Mountain Plains Library Association had it coming.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Excuse me, that’s Kansas City Football Team, you bigot.

      • Rhywun

        And the Bills are now the Pats. That’s not taken, is it?

  26. DEG

    More on the proposed Manchester, NH mask ordinance

    With aldermen set to meet remotely this week to debate the merits of a mask ordinance in Manchester, supporters and opponents of the proposal spent the weekend voicing their opinions via email.

    The Aldermanic Committee on Administration and Information Systems, which meets Monday at 5 p.m., gets first crack at the mask mandate. The matter could then be referred to the full board for a vote as early as Tuesday.

    The ordinance would require people to wear a mask inside any public or government building, unless they can stay at least six feet away from other people. It would require people to keep their masks on for most activities, including those like bowling. Restaurant patrons would be able to remove their masks to eat after they sit down.

    • B.P.

      My city just instituted a mask requirement… outdoors. Along with a restriction on gatherings to five people. You are exempt if you’re participating in an organized sports activity or walking by yourself away from everyone. There will be no gatherings of more than five people in the park, and those five need to wear masks. It’s clear that people didn’t read the fine print about walking alone because over half the people I saw out today were walking by themselves with masks on. People are actually complying with this nonsense. Another win for science. The good news is I can still live in a tent downtown and shit outside of it.

      • Suthenboy

        “My city…”

        You might want to rethink that.

      • mrfamous

        I am there. My car was a little behind on an oil change, but now that it’s done I’m gonna cruise out of county this weekend. Here both counties and cities are able to impose mask mandates, the state has refused to do so. My county (the most populous in the state and one of the most populous in the country) has one, so the cities within it are out of luck if they don’t agree. It’s a 40 minute drive to the nearest mask free county, and there’s essentially one suburb on the very edge of the Metro area that is in that county and also has no mandate.

        I can’t live like this forever, and that seems to be what’s on the local pols minds. And there doesn’t seem to be any mechanism to stop them.

  27. DEG

    Canadians sneak across border

    Federal authorities are investigating after a car drove across the U.S.— Canada border illegally, by crashing through a Vermont man’s yard.

    Alain De La Bruere’s home security cameras captured the incident Saturday morning as the car drove across the border from Stanstead, Quebec, and right into his yard.

    “I just couldn’t believe it. It’s like it doesn’t — I always look for wild game, it’s always kinda neat to see the deer, different wild game crossing over but I never expected right at 10:30 in the morning, somebody trying to break through the border,” De La Bruere said.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Fifty four forty or fight!

    • B.P.

      Wait a minute. Is Alain De La Bruere residing on the wrong side of the border? This could be chain migration.

      • DEG

        He’s on the US side.

      • B.P.

        Yes, but his name makes me suspicious that he’s a furriner that done snuck over the border.

      • Hyperion

        Not only a furriner. Even worse, much worse, a French Canadian furriner.

  28. DEG

    Article on Taste of Sicily’s win against Gauleiter Wolf

    Taste of Sicily, a Lebanon County restaurant has won a lawsuit against Governor Tom Wolf.

    This comes after opening to full capacity back in May during the yellow phase of Governor Wolf’s restrictions.

    The citation states Taste of Sicily was in violation of Governor Wolf’s COVID-19 restrictions.

    Masks and social distancing were not required at the restaurant and they didn’t have plexiglass barriers.

    • Suthenboy

      Every single governor that issued an ‘order’ forbidding freedom of association should be in prison, unless of course they can provide some kind of restitution for the lives, livelihoods and businesses they have destroyed without taxpayer dollars and stay there until they can.

  29. ElspethFlashman

    The pleasures of working at home : I mean keep the camera off, you idiot!!

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      I’ve noticed that many of my meetings are going back to audio only. People are sick of being on camera 8 hours per day.

      • Rhywun

        All my meetings are audio only. Some of the suits turn their cameras on but I’m a drone. Fuck that.

      • Pope Jimbo

        My old company was so paranoid about cameras giving away secrets that might be inadvertently shown on a camera that they either gave you a laptop with no camera or glued something over the camera. All teleconferences were audio only.

        Current company is the exact opposite. They expect a camera to be on when the meeting is going on.

        It was a hard transition for me. Had to really work on not rolling eyes when talking about silly things during meetings.

    • Suthenboy

      “…legal analyst for CNN…” “Jeffrey Toobin…”

      Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

    • R C Dean

      I’ve done a couple of business Zoom calls from home. I wear exactly what I wear to the office, including a tie, and my office shoes.

      Somebody asked why I was wearing a tie if I was at home. I told them “This is what I wear when I work. I’m working now.”

    • Gustave Lytton

      Drugs are falling out of Toobin’s posterior now.

    • Fatty Bolger

      Self pleasures.

  30. The Gunslinger

    I hereby pledge to never again click on a link with the word Twitter in the link.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Good luck, we’re all counting on you.

      • The Gunslinger

        I’m sure Mr. Dorsey is calling emergency meetings to formulate a plan to win me back.

    • R C Dean

      Not a bad idea. I’ve never had, and never will have, an account there. But I still give them traffic. I suspect I can easily get by without ever looking at Twitter. I managed for the first 50+ years of my life, after all.

      • The Gunslinger

        I’ve never had an account there either. Unfortunately the only time I ever end up on Twitter is links in the Glib comments. But I have drawn the line in the sand and said no more.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Count Potato hardest hit.

        Or maybe Pie, not sure.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I like to fling shit from time to time, too.

      • Rhywun

        I skip them unless there’s some context that might indicate it’s worthwhile.

      • The Gunslinger

        Not clicking that

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Best argument for abortion I’ve seen all day.

      • Count Potato

        That song sucks.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      I’ll eventually get around to building a Twitter delinker into Monocle. Sometimes I just cant help myself.

  31. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    Obviously I don’t directly know anybody involved in this and have no way of verifying the authenticity, but this is one reason why I’m about to head down to the sporting goods store and pick up my newest rifle. Hopefully the boat trip back home goes well.

    • EvilSheldon

      We’re going to burn your house down for your political beliefs, and it’s your fault.

      They certainly understand the concept of revolutionary terror, do they not?

    • But Enough About My Wild Culinary Fantasies

      Good God.

    • Drake

      I’ve seen that posted before, not sure if I should believe. Puts me in mind of the Missouri-Kansas border war – savage raids with lots of death.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I give that about 10% odds of being legit and 90% odds of being retarded teenager humor.

      • EvilSheldon

        I actually agree with your assessment of the odds. But have you ever heard that saying, “It’s not the odds, it’s the stakes?”

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Oh I know. I was just thinking to myself that is exactly the type of thing that stupid adolescent me would have thought was hilarious.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I’ll give it the same skepticism that I would if it had been a note threatening a minority. Almost 100% sure it was some attention monger who wrote it. Next biggest suspect would be someone who personally knows the “victim” and thinks the victim is a real spaz and is just yanking their chain.

      • Drake

        Given how stupid these people are, I’d expect it to have a return address.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Always remember it was YOU that started this civil war

      Okay then.

    • DEG

      Supposedly they’re popping up in NH.

      I will admit, I’m a bit skeptical of its authenticity.

    • Fatty Bolger

      Almost certainly fake.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      “Dear Neighbor”.

      At least they are being neighborly.

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      “Dear neighbor,

      Come on by. You can wear a bullet-proof vest if you want but be aware that I prefer head shots.”

  32. mexican sharpshooter

    There are two new people at work. I know because suddenly there are 40 emails from all the idiots hitting “Reply All” to the welcome email.

    Is it really that difficult to not do that?

    • Derpetologist

      China Paralyzes US With ‘Reply-All’ Cyberweapon

    • Gender Traitor

      Had a mildly amusing Reply All oopsie at my workplace last week. One manager announced to everyone that a couple of her folks were moving to different locations. One of those moving folks has been known to be “difficult.” The manager’s supervisor – inadvertently, I’m sure – did a Reply All asking something along the lines of “Did [Ms. Difficult] really agree to that?”

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Nice.

      • hayeksplosives

        Yup. I don’t need to be doxxed by being a passive recipient of your asinine email.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Gustave likes cuck videos.

        Oh wait, bCc…

  33. Derpetologist

    Not my usual commenting time, but an idea came to me: an easy way to speed up Risk games.

    Now, generally the length of a Risk game in hours is equal to 2n -1, where n is the number of players. All the dice throws eat up time. But what if a game could be settled with a dozen dice throws?

    The average sum of rolling 2 dice is 7 and there are 42 territories on a Risk map. If the number rolled is converted into armies, it would take an average of 6 rolls to put an army on every territory.

    So here is my proposal for Speed Risk, or Blitzwagnis, to use a more fun German name. Each player rolls 2 dice for armies and places them wherever on the board. When the last empty territory is occupied, play continues until all players have had the same number of turns. Whoever has the most armies on a given territory owns it and whoever has the most territories wins. Optional rule: only territories that border each other count towards a player’s score.

    It’s fast, it preserves the element of chance, and the basic goal is the same. And it also makes it easier to put cannons and horseys on the board!

    • UnCivilServant

      I don’t get this impulse to try to speed up wargames. You don’t move to faster wargames, you move towards Axis and Allies.

      • Derpetologist

        “I don’t get this impulse to try to speed up wargames.”

        Because they can get boring?
        Because in one long game you have only one chance to win vs multiple chances from several shorter games?
        Because it can be hard to find people willing to spend 6 hours playing the same game?
        Because the most popular games have shorter play times?

        Axis and Allies could use the warp speed treatment too. Otherwise, its play time is given by the equation t = M(p) x R(p), where t is the game length in hours of an AnA game, M(p) is the length of time of a Monopoly game with p players and R(p) is the length of time of a Risk game with p players.

      • The Last American Hero

        You forgot to multiply by the AL factor and AAS factor, where you spend days arguing over the rules on amphibious landings and aerial assaults at sea.

  34. Gustave Lytton

    My company is initiating mandatory daily temperature screening and questionnaires via a required app, starting soon. Unbelievable.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Well, unbelievable is perhaps a bridge too far. It’s far too believable.

    • UnCivilServant

      NY State has already had that in place. It’s even stupider than you think. One of the questions is “Do you have any of the following symptoms?” and listed a lot of generic symptoms… but never asks if you know where they came from. “Yes, I have new body aches, but I just got a tetanus booster.”

      • Gustave Lytton

        If you fail to answer correctly, it auto deactivates your building access.

        I guess my body temp will be somewhere between 98.4 and 98.6 for the next six months regardless.

    • Gustave Lytton

      I can see it now. The shitbirds that want a day or three off with pay will intentionally select a vague symptom, most will click through like a EULA regardless of what’s going on, and five people will take it seriously each day.

    • Rhywun

      Mine has that if you’re crazy enough to *want* to return to the office.

    • Bill (Door) Baggins (a Skellington)

      The university I work for/building I work in has been doing that since the semester began. My policy is to deny any symptoms of anything. If I am fevering, they can try to call me out on it. Otherwise, they can get bent.

      My governor can get bent too for re-upping the mandate and getting fooled by the “cases” nonsense.

      • Gustave Lytton

        The cumulative cases/deaths is my fave. They just keep going up!

      • Bill (Door) Baggins (a Skellington)

        Funny how that works with a virus.

        The goal posts have been moved so far, it’s a wonder why some people don’t believe that the virus is real.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Not in Mexico.

        After 3 days, any victim named Jesus is automatically removed from the cumulative count.

    • Gustave Lytton

      They also want hourly employees to do it at home, claim exactly the time spent doing it, and then go into stop time. Uh, that’s not how our pay practices work and that runs afoul of collective bargaining agreement practices for those employees covered by one. Good ole HR at work.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I’m sure Ole’s buddy Sven (also in HR) is just as culpable.

      • Gustave Lytton

        To be fair, they’re both trying to get into Lena’s skirt.

    • Pope Jimbo

      One of our facilities is going to do temp checks now. Not sure why because I wasn’t paying any attention. It amazes me how many people where I work are very concerned about what measures are being taken. And this is a group that is 100% working from home.

      The ray of sunshine is that one developer gal asked if we would have to install a contact tracing app on our phones if we come back and that led to a HR email gently reminding us not to bully people for making suggestions during a meeting.

      • R C Dean

        We did temp checks on everyone entering the building for awhile. We quit over a month ago.

        Because we did tens of thousands, and not a single one popped enough of a fever to matter.

        Of course, “touchless” thermometers are pretty much crap anyway, as far as I can tell. I consistently read around a degree cooler than I really am.

        I believe our CEO may have actually called it “theater” at one point.

      • hayeksplosives

        My CEO took off his mask in my office after asking if it was OK. He figured he was sitting 6 feet away.

        He is itching to get on with it. The fever check is truly ridiculous.

      • EvilSheldon

        Last time I was hit with a touchless thermometer, my temperature came back as 90.1°F.

      • Rhywun

        LOL I got something like that at the front door at my last doctor’s appointment and the nice lady at the front desk didn’t bat an eye. Just wrote the number down on a slip of paper and asked me to give it to the check-in lady upstairs. I joked with the nurse about it later; she agreed that “didn’t seem right”.

    • hayeksplosives

      My manager asked the managers reporting to him to gauge out employees’ willingness/readiness to return to work. He wants to make sure nobody is afraid or feels unsafe from COVID.

      My department never did work from home (aside from a day here or there like we already did sometimes) so we aren’t afraid. However, everyone did comment about the pointlessness of arbitrarily stopping the forehead temperature checks at 2PM.

      Also, they all said that if they read high, the guards instruct them to pull over with their car AC on full for a while before they check again until you pass.

      Super.

      Bedsides, if you have COVID enough to give you a fever, you probably have been sick a few days, so is it really effective as a screening measure?

    • LCDR_Fish

      My work on base has been taking my temp every time I come into the building. Two junior students on watch (checking IDs normally anyway) just checking your temp as well. It’s freaking hilarious – it doesn’t matter what your temp is, they still let you in. Of course, I’d say at least half the time since april, my measured temp has been 97 or lower ;p My coworker had a temp of 102 after sitting in his car and walking through the sun to get back in at lunch and they told him – “be careful”.

      • R C Dean

        One of the reasons we stopped is because we had a few people with longer walks through the Tucson summer sun popping hot, so they had to sit inside for 15 minutes and get checked again. They all passed on the second check.

      • commodious spittoon

        I went out to a movie set a couple months ago to take measurements up on a ladder in an unventilated space, and the union covid temp takers came around to take temperatures and I registered 102. Neither said anything. What’s the point of taking the fucking measurement, then?

      • Rhywun

        One hot summer day I walked the mile or so to my doc’s office and still blew a 97 or so after wiping the sweat off my brow so they could get a clean hit. I thought for sure I was gonna be walking straight home.

    • R C Dean

      They were going to have a hell of a time keeping pay-for-play deals with foreigners off the table during a foreign policy debate.

    • hayeksplosives

      May I suggest we take Climate Change off the topic list instead?

      It’s an issue that fewer than one third of Americans think is real and/or a problem.

  35. Derpetologist

    Derpy’s LifeHacks – add red food coloring to vodka and put it in an empty cough syrup bottle. You can now take shots at work (be sure to use a medicine spoon). As a bonus, people will think you’re sick and stay away from you.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      …or they think you’re addicted to cough syrup.

      • LJW

        Hey a lot of companies won’t fire you for being a addict. You’ll probably get a paid vacation for your rehab.

      • Derpetologist

        QUIET, YOU!

      • UnCivilServant

        “We have to talk about your Robitussin problem.”

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Whatever you do, don’t start adding your “tussin” to Red Bull. They look out for robotrippers now.

  36. R C Dean

    Oh, it just gets better and better.

    Then VICE updated the story to include more gruesome details: two sources saw Toobin pleasuring himself during an election simulation call featuring Jelani Cobb, Jane Mayer and other New Yorker big names. Graciously they appended this immortal editorial note: ‘This piece has been updated with more detail about the call and the headline has been updated to reflect that Toobin was masturbating.‘

    • Urthona

      That guy is experiencing a nightmare. Did he forget he was connected? omg. haha.

    • grrizzly

      Two people who were on the call told VICE separately that the call was an election simulation featuring many of the New Yorker’s biggest stars: Jane Mayer was playing establishment Republicans; Evan Osnos was Joe Biden, Jelani Cobb was establishment Democrats, Masha Gessen played Donald Trump, Andrew Marantz was the far right, Sue Halpern was left wing democrats, Dexter Filkins was the military, and Jeffrey Toobin playing the courts. There were also a handful of other producers on the call from the New Yorker and WNYC.

      Both people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to speak freely, noted that it was unclear how much each person saw, but both said that they saw Toobin jerking off. The two sources described a juncture in the election simulation when there was a strategy session, and the Democrats and Republicans went into their respective break out rooms for about 10 minutes. At this point, they said, it seemed like Toobin was on a second video call. The sources said that when the groups returned from their break out rooms, Toobin lowered the camera. The people on the call said they could see Toobin touching his penis. Toobin then left the call. Moments later, he called back in, seemingly unaware of what his colleagues had been able to see, and the simulation continued.

      • R C Dean

        I keep reading “simulation” as “stimulation”.

      • DrOtto

        Erection Stimulation

      • commodious spittoon

        I don’t suppose this is when we finally acknowledge that mistakes happen, humans are sexual animals, it’s not always intentional, it’s terribly embarrassing for the person caught out, the publicity is adequate punishment, and everyone making more of this than it deserves is an awful hypocrite?

      • Urthona

        At least they didn’t see what he was masturbating to.

        My guess: a picture of Obama.

      • grrizzly

        I think we’re still in the stage when we’re looking for the details of what happened. Has anyone saved a screenshot of Toobin’s act?

    • hayeksplosives

      I’m not judging him for spanking the monkey, but the fact that he did it on a call means some combination of the following:

      1) such an idiot that he doesn’t know to cover up the camera with tape

      2) such a sex fiend that he just really cannot wait 30 minutes for when there’s no meeting

      3) such an exhibitionist that he knew he was on camera but wanted to shock others

      None of those things seems like the actions of a careful, disciplined, professional.

      • Urthona

        He absolutely just didn’t realize he was still
        on. I give it a 99.9% chance.

        Damn.

        haha.

      • Hyperion

        “I’m not judging him for spanking the monkey”

        Can he seriously wait until he’s not working?

        At the end of every web meeting, I disable my cam and turn off the headphones. You don’t have to put tape over the camera, I wouldn’t even trust that. Just disable it, it takes 2 seconds. And don’t masturbate during work hours. That should just about cover it. What a doofus. You do not want that guy handling your finances, or any of your stuff, at all, nothing. Ewww.

      • Urthona

        eh with all of america on zoom calls it’s bound to happen that someone is a dumbass with the technology.

      • Hyperion

        This guy gets caught wanking on camera by his colleagues and last month, one of our esteemed congress critters poops his pants live on C-SPAN.

        A real class act, our betters.

      • Gdragon

        This sounds like my exit interview

    • peachy rex

      They have to fire him, right? It’s not like anyone gives a shit about Toobin – plenty of other stooges waiting in line.

    • Hyperion

      OFFS! Damn you!

  37. Hyperion

    Not sure if this has made the links around here yet. But for lulz sake, I have to make sure it does. No I didn’t look upthread first.

    Fappin to the Zoomin!

    WTF? I swear I muted the camera before I started jerking off! Was that wrong?

    Our professional elite class, ladies and gentlemen.

    • Urthona

      It was bound to happen.

    • Ownbestenemy

      And gold fell out of your ass

      • Hyperion

        I wish, I could use some gold.

  38. Hyperion

    Hidin Biden is hidin again. He’s put on another ‘lid’ until Friday. If he wins, I have a feeling we’re going to be seeing lots of these lids.

    After Calmela and Hillary off him, it will be a month before anyone knows he’s dead.

    • Urthona

      He has smart campaign managers.

  39. zwak

    The wife picked me up some beer the other day, so I had one grilling chicken tonight. Ninkasi Megolodom, an IPA at around 10% ABV. Holi Shite. This is a tall can, so I just had a 6er of Lucky lager apparently.

    The wife is laughing her ass off.