Virginia bans no-knock warrants as Northam signs new police reform laws
RICHMOND, Va. (WRIC) — Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D) said Wednesday that he has signed several bills to reform policing in the state, including legislation that empowers localities to establish civilian reviews boards with subpoena power, creating statewide minimum training standards for officers and a ban on no-knock search warrants.
The governor called for a special session this summer initially to revise the state’s budget after the economic fallout from the pandemic but in the wake of George Floyd’s death in May, the need to address social justice issues felt urgent and compelled lawmakers to push for changes.
Virginia Democrats set an ambitious agenda, proposing measures to prohibit no-knock warrants, ban neck restraints, to eliminate qualified immunity for law enforcement and to give judges and juries the discretion to reduce the charge for assaulting law enforcement officers from a felony to a misdemeanor if the officer is not hurt during the encounter. Northam even announced his own priorities ahead of the session, which included expanding the criteria required for decertification and requiring officers to intervene if they witness a fellow officer attempting to or committing an unlawful use of force.
Gov. Grand Wizard does something decent for a change. Don’t worry, he’ll ruin something else soon enough.
Sometimes Boogaloos begin in the strangest of places…
Chicago sisters accused of stabbing employee 27 times after being asked to wear a mask
Two Chicago sisters were denied bail after allegedly stabbing a store clerk 27 times over the request to wear a mask
A man was stabbed multiple times after asking two women to wear masks.
Two sisters entered a small shop in Chicago on Sunday when they were approached by a worker who asked them to wear a mask and to use hand sanitizer to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 according to Karie James who is a police spokesperson, the Chicago Sun Times (sic) reported. They refused and began to argue with the man at the store located on the 3200 block of West Roosevelt Road.
The argument escalated and the women Jessica Hill, 21, and Jayla Hill, 18, are accused of attacking the man. Jessica pulled a knife out of her back pocket and began stabbing the 32-year-old man. Jayla held the man in place by his hair while the victim was stabbed 27 times.
Sometimes this timeline surprises even me.
In honor of the Dodgers and the fan response:
I assume the ban on no-knock warrants doesn’t actually ban no-knock warrants and that nothing will change in practice.
The Kentucky ban has “exceptions” so Kentucky doesn’t have a ban.
Without reading the article, I assume this ban will have exceptions for police safety. Thus no actual ban.
And coronavirus-related exceptions.
I had to get through a blizzard of legalese, but it does seem to be a blanket ban. The search warrant has to be presented before the police enter and they have to do it in the daytime unless a 2nd judge authorizes it.
(I think that’s the upshot.)
Link the 2nd paragraph:
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/white-collar-and-criminal-law/virginia-bans-no-knock-warrants-limits-neck-restraints
No exceptions for ‘wellness’ checks? Why does the governor hate people and want them to die?
Not a lawyer but I didn’t see any exceptions plus search warrants are supposed to be served in the daytime (that has a couple of exceptions). All in all it looks good so credit where it’s due I suppose.
Thanks to both of you for your service in reading the details.
What are the exceptions on the KY one making it bogus? I havent read the details.
It hasn’t been issued in its final form yet, but there are carve-outs for allowing no-knock when serving an arrest warrant and in a “hostage situation.” Loopholes big enough to drive a tank through.
The law doesn’t need exceptions. That’s what judges are for.
Since there are certainly times when a ‘no knock raid’ is appropriate I expect they will completely fuck up the wording of the law. Yes, I expect business as usual.
Queue the “I heard someone screaming inside” exception.
Nah they are noble and just and would never lie.
Police conduct no knock raid, in defiance of law.
When questioned, their union representative says two words: “Exigent circumstances.”
Officers cleared to return to duty.
“We knocked three times on the ceiling”
And twice on the pipe.
These euphemisms.
oh my darlin’
Relevant section from the actual law:
There are excepting for executing a warrant at night, but all officers must be in uniform and announce thematically and their purpose. Seems pretty air tight, but I’m sure our more legally minded glibs can find a way to weasel around it.
Well seeing as it would require prosecuting cops and that doesn’t go over well… Seems like it won’t matter anyway.
“Officer Dipshit, it is noted that you did not follow the new law and did not knock or announce yourself”
Officer Dipshit “I saw a gun/smelled marijuana/observed paraphernalia/heard screams/on and on and on”
This line ” provide audible notice of his authority and purpose reasonably expected to be heard by occupants”
is where the flex room that will be tortured to unreasonableness exists.
Oh I have no doubts that the courts will rip it to shreds and render it a dead letter almost immediately, but from the current Virginia legislature and Governor it is about as good as could be and much better than expected. Short of a few amendments to the federal constitution that reify the fourth and clarify, remove, or replace certain common law principles that allow for things like qualified and absolute immunity and asset forfeiture, we aren’t going to get anywhere.
There was a report that the vid was on the premises, so we just had to burn it down after nailing al the doors shut.
Oh it doesn’t take near that much effort.
Officer Dipshit “I feared for my safety”
Judge Dipshit “Our brave boys in blue deserve to go home to their families at night. Case dismissed”
“Seems pretty air tight, but I’m sure our more legally minded glibs can find a way to weasel around it.”
Some other things that appear pretty air tight:
“the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Sad trombone
It is logically impossible for human beings to craft a law that will actually restrain future human beings once enough of them decide they no longer want the thing the law was designed to protect.
^^^.
This. You will alway be constrained/dominated/oppressed by what the majority of people want, and are willing to do to achieve it.
You will alway be constrained/dominated/oppressed by what
the majoritya well-armed minority of people want, and are willing todo touse against anyone who opposes them achieveing it.FTFY
Thinking well-armed government agents will be restrained by a piece of paper is an example of the Dunning-Kruger effect:
*wonders if incorrectly stating something is an example of the Dunning-Kruger effect is an example of the Dunning-Kruger effect*
I’m under no delusions that this will accomplish nothing, but you have to put a little more creativity into it. You can’t just do the opposite of what a law says, you need to come up with an appropriately nonsensical legalise argument to justify why up is actually down. Words on paper don’t actually matter when it comes to restraining state action, but the illusion that they do matters greatly.
I think that is a well written law. Now we’ll see how it is applied.
Doesn’t appear to require all officers to be uniform, just the one announcing the search warrant.
How many times have we heard about cops claiming to have knocked, but nobody heard them and they had to kick the door down? That won’t change.
And the warrant only has to be presented after the cop is in the building and has secured it. That’s pretty effing pro forma.
They can still serve warrants at night if a judge or magistrate rubber stamps it. Not feeling like our judicial branch has given much protection to us on the whole warrant thing, so I’m not exactly warm and fuzzy on this one, either.
I mean, sure, better than nothing, but probably not much.
More theater. This country is more full of shit than the Vatican (et al) at their worst.
Police: THIS IS THE POLICE! WE HA-
Suspect: *starts firing rounds
Are the police supposed to not fire back until they complete their two-minute spiel? Would the suspect hear the spiel while they are shooting?
The question is not so much what the law requires but what penalties are proscribed for breaking it an dhow strictly those will be applied.
^^ this.
Jessica and Jayla. Should I click through and see where the fit on the victimology totem pole?
Only dumb Trumpers refuse to wear masks, so clearly the photos shows your typical MAGA person.
They kind of do look like a couple of people who’d stab someone 27 times. Not because they’re black though.
Did I imply they were black.
I figured it was a couple of lesbians taking out a transwoman.
No but they are not that that means anything They just look mean is all, one of them does anyway.
You laugh, but Chicago just had a mixed race lesbian couple go on a bank robbing spree. (And no, neither was named Lori.)
Shut up you, I clicked and can assure you those are two fine looking young ladies. Very sweet looking, I bet they’re real nice.
Je suis vraiment la colombe souillée
Beautiful.
So did the guy who get stabbed die?
The article says he was taken to the hospital in serious condition.
It sound like he is still alive, somehow.
It is remarkably hard to kill someone with a knife. Easy to cripple or disfigure them, though.
Get a knife that has a blade at least 5 inches long, and stab up under the chin and through the soft palette of the mouth; they should die almost immediately. Alternatively stab down on the shoulder between the clavicle and the shoulder blade, right in the hollow. The bones will guide the knife into the brachial artery and because the cut is between the ribcage and the back you can’t put pressure to stop the bleeding. Without surgical intervention they should bleed out within half an hour.
Ok. Afraid to ask how you know this.
I would think that someone trained by the military would not find it that hard to kill someone with a knife – say, slash their carotid artery or stab their liver and watch them bleed out.
But if you’re a civilian just hacking away at random with a dull knife, sure.
“The spirit of the bayonet is to kill” as taught to a Oneandahalfscore at Infantry OCS
https://twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1321438133385416705
Yeah, the Media is in the tank for one political party, no duh.
Who is Ciaramella?
The guy whose name Rand Paul said and John Roberts censored.
The whistleblower everybody wasn’t supposed to name.
You know a big story came out last night, and Twitter was all over it. No it wasn’t Bobulinski on tucker talking about how the Bidens are corrupt. Its that the NYT is saying that Trump had a lot of debt Forgiven!
Home Depot targets its appeal to white cats. That’s racist.
I could’ve watched a lot more of that.
It was hypnotic. I wish I had some weed to go along with it.
Even if Sammy Davis Jr said it?
https://twitter.com/willwilkinson/status/1321197576599851008
Not only is the Niskansen Institute no longer libertarian, they don’t even want you to have civil liberties anymore.
I don’t know why they bother to hold themselves out as libertarians. They are limiting their audience for leftist claptrap.
They actually dumped the descriptor a while ago. They’re just inside Beltway technocrat assholes now. Always looking to throw their former-libertarian cred to whoever will invite them to a cocktail party.
I think I despise them more than the left.
They’re more about the “arian” than the “liberty”.
I didn’t think Wilkinson was NJR-level retarded, but clearly I was wrong.
At least it isnt “another couple weeks” lie.
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/10/28/anthony-fauci-u-s-may-see-semblance-of-normality-only-in-2022/
Fuck off
It seems to me that 99% of what passes as “news” is people mind reading and claiming to predict the future.
I used to tell my ex “You’re watching the 10 o’Clock speculation?” “Oh, I’m only watching it for the weather.” “Like I said…”
The Indie Alex Jones was awesome.
“Literal Vampire Potbellied Goblins”
This YT comment is great: You could probably play this over the speakers at urban outfitters and no one would notice
That is the first time I’d seen a video of him. He’s insane. Who gives him airtime?
I did listen to most of the Rogan podcast with him on this afternoon. If everyone shitting their pants at Rogan having him on would actually listen to it, they might find out that Alex does a good job of turning himself off to most people.
Indeed, there was no reason to cancel Jones. Let him stay in his cultural and intellectual ghetto. Canceling him just validates him. But understanding that requires slightly more nuance and appreciation of human behavior than is currently tolerable.
There is much in human nature that is not good. The visceral desire to punish people for saying things you believe are wrong and to force them to recant, is high on the list.
Who gives Alex Jones airtime? Alex Jones does – InfoWars.
I used to think of him as a kooky conspiracy theorist spouting impossible stuff, then 2020 happened.
A befuddling lack of ethnic conformity
“I would point first to the development over a long period of time of a partisan loyalty to the Republican Party. And Latino Republican voters just identify as Republicans above all else, just like many Americans. There is a kind of tribalism among Latino Republicans, just like there is among many Americans.”
While some might expect that support to wane in communities who’ve been most severely affected by COVID-19 — losing more jobs and more lives than other demographic groups — Cadava said the Trump campaign’s messaging has been successful on low unemployment for Latinos pre-pandemic, “law and order” (many Latinos serve in the military, police force and in the Border Patrol) and other issues important to Latino conservatives.
“It’s been kind of amazing to watch, I mean, in some ways the Latinos for Trump campaign, which started officially in the spring of 2019, has been relentless in recruiting Latino voters,” Cadava said. “They’re actually trying to increase Trump’s Latino support, not just kind of hold it steady or depress the turnout of Democrats. They’re trying to win more Latino votes.”
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His Christian faith also aligned him with the Republican Party on issues such as abortion. And while he said he probably wouldn’t phrase things the way Trump does sometimes, Latino voters such as him are attracted to the message of lower taxes and lower costs of living, especially in California.
“I’ve never seen the Republican Party fight this hard to get Latino and African American votes,” he said. “We have a number of Latino candidates, a number of Latino Republicans who are really stepping up and taking center stage. I’m hoping that that can be a better conduit to connecting with Latinos across the country and showing them that the Republican Party, there is a place for you here. This is your home as a voter.”
Those crazy latinos don’t all vote the same? That makes no sense.
I mean… they aren’t wrong.
Tio Toms!
I mean go all the way with Tio Tomas
I didn’t want to culturally appropriate too much.
The Latino Republican running to unseat the Latina Democrat who represents my district in the State House has sent two mailers to my house. One touted his support for schools, law enforcement, and low taxes and regulations. The other had an endorsement from a black city councilman who was listed as also being a pastor and fireman. I’m thinking that the Democrats’ idea that “demographics is destiny” may be a house of cards.
Well they are more diverse than black people.
Can’t tell if serious
He’s quoting (more or less) Biden
Yes.
Topic – weirdest thing that happened to you in 2020 that, if someone in 2019 had said it would happen, you would have questioned their sanity:
Me: being told by a family member that I was a bad person who he would no longer associate with, because I would not wear a flimsy piece of paper-thin cloth over my mouth, thus allegedly massively jeopardizing the lives of myself and others:
Said family member once having bragged that he had driven his motorcycle down the Boeing freeway at 140 MPH, and when a cop turned on their flashers and went into pursuit, twisted the throttle wide open and went even faster, thus evading the police in a high speed chase.
Hmm There are a few.
I think something that deserves an honorable mention, though i didn’t get told this by anyone is that last year i would have laughed if someone told me that this year Donald Trump would be the only person i seriously consider casting a vote for.
weirdest thing that happened to you in 2020 that, if someone in 2019 had said it would happen, you would have questioned their sanity
I distinctly remember landing in DCA after a week long trip to Disney in February and feeling this weight reattach itself to my shoulders. Even the day before, if you had told me that within 3 weeks we’d have committed to renovating and selling our house in order to move back to TX, found out we were pregnant, and would be stuck living in our basement because the world was locked down (and the floor on the main level was being refinished), I’d have called you insane. If you told me that I wouldn’t be to the gun range again until after the election because I couldn’t afford ammo, id think you were extra nuts.
That I would spend 9 months working from home.
That I wouldn’t shoot pool for 6 months.
That I would grow facial hair.
That I would try to cut my own hair.
That I would think twice about going outside (riot ptsd).
I argue that the Great Barrington Declaration’s uselessness as anything other than Trump administration agitprop reflects some of libertarianism’s most serious flaws.
Belief in self-ownership is a sin. Rejecting the universal truths of Conventional Wisdom is treason.
“Sanity was statistical. It was merely a question of learning to think as they thought.” –1984
New guy here, totally Tulpa, or at least part of the Tulpae continuum. I have been lurking here for several months, almost feel like I know some of you half as well as I’d like, and like half of you half as much as you deserve. I hope to get to know more of you as time goes by.
Figured I needed to break the ice before I jumped in and started adding to the snark. Looking forward to it. I don’t post often but grateful to find a home of like minded libertarian-ish folks.
I have the same user name at TOS but didn’t post there much either, but I may have talked to a few of you people there, I do recognize a few names, but I am generally bad with names.
Cheer all.
Welcome to the club. Here’s your figurative football helmet. You’re gonna need it. 😉
My new favorite team – The Football Team. Go Team!
We need all the friends we can get. But if you want to really be a true friend you have to submit lots of articles about your support/non-support of deep dish. I would add beer too but since I’m a total washout from the last century I won’t mention it.
I’m just a simple man, my pizza comes from the Hut, usually “pan” style with all the fixins, except pineapple.
My beer of choice is Shiner Bock – I’m a Texan.
My cigar of choice is Oliva Serie V Melanio Maduro, or Padron 1926 Serie Maduro.
My whisky of choice is Balcones Single Malt, but I am new to the premium whisky world and willing to try others.
As Animal says, life is too short to smoke cheap cigars or drink cheap whisky.
My pet of choice is the cat.
My method of transportation of choice is a Suzuki V-Strom 650.
Nerd!
Mmm… A Strom trooper.
Mmm…
(a hearty Fuck off Tulpa!)
Hey, guys! We got a virgin over here!
Hey, guys! We got
aanother virgin over here!Hi Tulpa.
What is the proper doneness of a grilled steak?
Medimun rare, of course.
Looks like you have passed muster. Now watch your back.
Shiner Bock is the correct answer (mostly Texan here). NY pizza is the best, pineapple is fine and pan is delicious but it isn’t pizza. Fuck cigars. ALL whisky/whiskey is good. I joke that I hate cats but I really have a soft spot for them, but ALL dogs are good. Not a car guy by any means, anything reliable is great.
But if you want to really be a true friend you have to submit lots of articles about your support/non-support of deep dish.
I have though about submitting an article on the most libertarian pizza, but I have demurred because it would be super short, and not worth a post.
The most libertarian pizza is pineapple deep dish. Because there is nothing more libertarian than supporting people’s right to be totally, utterly wrong.
:Applause:
You deserve a Nobel Prize.
:Applause:
You deserve a Nobel Prize.
Do the double posts come from the unreality of the interface between your realm and ours? Or is it caused by Binky’s speed?
Binky’s speed has a lot to do with it, is my guess.
That, and skwerrelz.
Fuck off tulpa.
(Welcome!)
At least you have an avatar, unlike half these tulpae around here.
Yeah, screw those tulpae.
Good avatar. I had that poster on my wall as a kid.
I saw the movie with my brother who worked at the theater. I recommended it to a bunch of friends so we all pile in a car and head to see it. The ticket lady wouldn’t sell us tickets, turns out it was rated R and we were all 15 and 16, I was bummed.
I watched it on YT broken into small bits recently and was thinking, “what happened?” It didn’t age very well.
Well, maybe it wasn’t the movie that didn’t age well. I’m familiar with the problem
I have an avatar on order, but Avatar Factory S487 is behind on quota and theres a 7 month waiting list.
Also, awesome avatar Necron99
Dammit. Tulpaed again. I thought everyone else was Tulpa. Or I’m Tulpa. Still working it out in my head.
I love palindromic numbers, so welcome!
Thanks for the welcome, I love what you’ve done with the place.
A hearty “fuck off, Tulpa” to you!
Tell us about yourself… what do you enjoy? who would you kill in their crib first if you had a time machine? Where did STEVE SMITH touch you? What are your thoughts on 223 versus 12 gauge for home defense? What do you think happened to the Kennedy “wannafud” spawn?
Live in small town Texas. Work as a manufacturing engineer. Still with my first wife (she hates that expression) of 30 years. Have two kids, underachieving son who lives with me, gay daughter who doesn’t, and a toddlering grandson from my gay daughter. I enjoy cigars, whisky, motorcycles, skeet and trap, and various other crap. Kill in the crib? Likely Marx – he seems to have started all this crap. STEVE SMITH TOUCHES WHERE STEVE SMITH WANTS!!! 12 gauge is superior, unless you need a lot of rounds then the 223 will come out in top. I’ve sent a lot of M-16 rounds downrange in Army during the 80’s and 90’s, 35E. Kennedy has no value in my life so fuck it.
Tis me in a nutshell, take it or leave it.
Still with my first wife (she hates that expression) of 30 years.
I refer to Mrs. Dean as my last wife.
In return, she refers to me as her current husband.
who would you kill in their crib first if you had a time machine?
DON’T KILL HITLER!
Mike Tyson did once. Shalom.
Hiya, Tulpa!
I’m glad you decided to dive into the deep end.
(And of course, fuck off!)
Welcome to the party pal!
Welcome! You did not post unprepared. I am pleased.
Howdy & fuck off Tulpa!
Oh, this Tulpa even gets greeted by the women-folk. Well la-deee-da.
Texan huh? Horns or howdy?
I’m a Tarleton State alumni, go Texans and TexAnns. A member of the A&M system.
Non-traditional, dropped out of UTA in 85, got a AAS in 93, then got my BS in 03 after where I worked got moved out of state by those bastards at Textron.
“empowers localities to establish civilian reviews boards with subpoena power”
Empowers, but does not mandate. And we know those boards are always packed with people sympathetic to police. The subpoena power is impressive, let’s see how often it’s actually used.
As a side note I look really good on paper as a potential “fair” and respectable citizen. I wonder if I should apply.
Civilian review comes in two flavors. Thin Blue Line which recommends no charges against the cop who shoots three hookers, their pimp, and some kid walking down the street because one of the hookers disrespected him by refusing to blow him for free. Black Lives Matter which recommends the death penalty for a cop who shoots a guy who had already stabbed two other cops with the sharpened femur of the girlscout he was simultaneously raping and eating when the police arrived.
Well mandate that you have an even share of both and then it will work! / congress
Those seem to be your two choices when it comes to use of force.
Las Vegas has a citizen review board and that is exactly what it is as you stated.
It seems that as the election approaches, all of the bad shit from 2020 is on rerun — being packed into a few days and put on spin cycle. Last night one of the shitty evening news channels (whichever network Lester Holt works for), led off with: coronavirus exploding, rioting over someone shot in Philly, forest fires, a hurricane. Today the Dow Jones dropped 900-something points, capping four days of losses.
Monday is going to suck.
Apparently some Democrats on Wall Street have figured out that the polls are GIGO and Trump might actually win, and are panic selling.
Noticed the grocery stores shelves were a bit understocked today, possibly due to the resumption of hoarding to hedge against possible rioting or other civil unrest should the Anointed One lose to OMB.
Swastika, ‘Trump’ Graffiti Found On Lafayette Home, Orinda Overpass
My cousin just posted this on Facebook, along with a long rant about how this shows that Trump is a hatemonger and if you vote for Trump you’re supporting literal Nazis.
I expect there to be no follow-up post from him in a few days when it turns out it wasn’t done by a Trump supporter.
There are Trump supporters in San Francisco?
Yes, Biden supporters are so scared they’re bringing in their Biden signs.
I’m laughing at the image of Trump sneaking off from his campaign to personally do this.
I typically imagine him and Biden as Spy v. Spy
You won’t see a follow up, be sure to check on here
http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/
Another story about the incident:
Lafayette home vandalized with swastika graffiti, owners urge public to vote
Perhaps by bravely standing up love and unity these brave people can denazify California and finally turn the state blue.
That sure sounds to me like they want people to vote for Trump. I know they think its an unquestionable reference to vote Dem, but from inside my bubble its the Dems predominantly doing the hate, division, fear, etc.
I was completely flummoxed about who to vote for and why, and even considered not voting. But these narcissists have finally convinced me.
Vote wisely. You’ll be disappointed in yourself if you vote unwisely and the result is someone living in a place you’ve never been has a swastika painted on his/her property. I wouldn’t want that on my conscience.
The idea that Trump is a crypto-Nazi is perhaps the dumbest idea of the last four years. This reeks of being a false flag attack.
Ya think?
Nazis would have made the Mexicans pay for the wall.
Nazis would have made the Panamanians pay for the wall, which would have been on the south side of the canal on the new, much shorter and easier to defend, US southern border.
That’s my hometown. Either a false flag or some bored teenager. The influx of people from Berkeley, Oakland and SF over the decades has turned it from a really conservative Republican town to just another Bay Area lefty suburb with good schools.
At risk of drugs falling out of cavaties I’m posting this link because I am too lazy to check if it has been posted. This virus response literally becoming a clown show.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1321543276294524928
Civil War 2 “Red v Blue Boogaloo” is going to be surreal.
“Red v Blue Boogaloo”
I’m sure Jo will still be out their saying “Hey don’t forget about my team!” “Give me a chance at the battlefield!”
That…I mean, it can’t be…oh, maybe Halloween? Really really bad optics…fuckin clowns.
I’ve always hated and found dressing up as an adult to work super unprofessional. The one time where i worked, where they really pushed dressing up on Halloween, i dressed up as Clark Kent.
You would be a complete failure as a stripper
Unless it’s an office Halloween party I dressing up is a bit tacky IMO. When it comes to a serious matter like the virus, dressing as a clown whether it’s for Halloween or not is beyond tacky.
It’s not Halloween yet.
“their lawyer insisted they’d been overcharged and only acted in self-defense”
IANAL, but how the fuck do you stab someone 27 times in self defense?
They say in self-defense courses to keep shooting until the threat is neutralized. Perhaps its the same if you’re a cutter.
It is, but 27 stab wounds is gonna look bad even if you stabbed cannibal rape-Hitler. This is something we talked about in my last knife class.
I was answering the illustrious mr….potato’s question of:
how the fuck do you stab someone 27 times in self defense?
Needing to neutralize is threat is how. I never said doing it 27 times was prudent.
Its the “Holding him down by his hair” while you stab him 27 times that i think is going to be the big problem in proving self-defense
I think the “capturing it on cell phone video” is also going to be a problem in claiming self-defense.
But maybe they were using body cams or google glass and were only passively recording the incident. And maybe there were riots in the neighborhood over a probably-innocent man being attacked.
That hair was alive and coming right for them!
I can click the links right? Its not going to send me down multiple rabbit holes where I find another way to die?
Only one way to find out.
“‘Who the hell elected YOU?’ Ted Cruz tears into Twitter’s Jack Dorsey for STILL censoring tweets about Hunter Biden’s emails as Republicans slam him, Facebook and Google for ‘bias’ – and he admits ‘conservatives have lost our trust'”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8888985/GOP-senators-slam-Facebook-Twitter-censorship-suppression-conservative-voices.html
Jack looks like he should be carving nickles on a freight train.
Yeah, don’t worry, they’re dumb enough to believe you if you say you’re sorry.
I think you have created a new way to mess up a link. It works, It shows the article linked. It just does not match your comment.
Ok either I have just had a psychotic break or the edit fairy is getting quick.
Jack does look like he just came out of hiding from a cave in Afghanistan.
The age of COVID turned Jack into Howard Hughes.
Very simple answer he should have given — my customers.
“‘Anonymous’ critic who wrote tell-all op-Ed about resisting Donald Trump from inside his administration is finally unveiled – but he is ALREADY an outspoken anti-Trump Republican”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8890133/Anonymous-critic-Trump-revealed-outspoken-foe-president.html
CWAA
Now you are just rubbing it in!
Rubbing it out? Toobin is a Rep staff member?
What? Links seem to be working as normal.
Initially the link in comment 21 was actually the link in comment 22 so I posted my first reply in 21 above. Then it changed to the correct link so I posted my second reply to 21. Then you posted comment 22.
So what do we tell Mr. Roper?
I actually read that book.
He left the government after DHS Kirstjen Nielsen was fired and he later became the head of national security relations at Google.
Continuing to prove that he can’t find gainful employment.
We’re livestreaming today’s Glibertarians.com ‘Fuck the Lockdown’ meetup-protest right now.
I am sure that is just a video of my teens…damn kids.
69 is an auspicious number.
“Hundreds of Trump supporters are left in the cold – with 30 needing treatment for hypothermia – after buses fail to pick them up from Omaha air strip rally as the wind chill plummeted to 21 degrees”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8888617/Hundreds-Trump-supporters-left-cold-presidents-air-strip-rally-Omaha.html
Sad.
And Joe claimed and the media did not correct, they were left in sub-zero temps. I am sure they were fine as they are from that area and dressed accordingly I assume.
According to the article, not all of them were fine.
Shut the fuck up, lib.
#WWF1WFA
Willy Wonka Found 1 Willing Furry Aardvark?
21 degrees = hypothermia? Were they naked?
Man, what a day.
SP lynx in the morning. A Sugar Free tour de force and now the Clash.
I’m spent.
Oh, the cat was excellent, too!
You didn’t like my music link this morning?
I did!
I even left it rolling for most of the album!
“Socialist AOC appears in Vanity Fair in $14,000 of designer suits and Louboutins to call Trump a motherf****r for not paying tax – as she compares herself to Hillary and Pelosi (and gets to keep a $3,000 outfit)
In one portion of the interview, she said ‘dressing the part has been an unexpected struggle, but it’s also a way to connect with constituents’ while wearing an $800 dress and $1,450 earrings.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8889119/AOC-appears-cover-Vanity-Fair-says-shes-boogeyman-Dems.html
She knows how communism works.
Wow. She really can’t help herself. She has no Off Button. 99% of them don’t, but she is remarkably flagrant about it. She is living the Team Blue Democratic dream that she imagined when she was a little girl. Riding on her attractiveness through her years she got men to do whatever she wanted them to do for her. She’s used to it, and now she’s at the top. For a normal girl, they might dream of becoming a princess. AOC literally is now, just under a different moniker.
Sadly, still would. With reckless abandon. I wouldn’t call her back.
It might be possible to do her if it was hate-fucking, and duct tape was used.
/jk
I say this as someone who was advised by a sympathetic cop, in the aftermath of my apartment being trashed by the crazy in which I’d been putting my dick in for far longer than was advisable, to break my lease, quit my job, change my name if necessary, and move leaving no forwarding address.
He’d been stalked by a crazy ex for a dozen years.
So, there’s a level of crazy for which no amount of physical beauty can make risking sex with her a good idea. And AOC pings that painfully acquired crazy-dar.
She has no boobpedia entry.
She is hot as hell. Evil and stupid, but I would.
Say, did she ever pay her back taxes?
Wait I thought she got mad when she was referred to as AOC and not
Mighty On HighRepresentative Ocasio Cortez?If she wanted me to use her name, she’d have fewer of them.
What are the odds against her having claimed the full value of her barkeeping and waitressing tips?
The lack of outrage with this just shows that a lot of the people who read these magazines would be ok with a monarchy and ruling class, as long as they’re perty and wear fancy clothes. She obviously believes this too. Where is old man Sanders yelling at the sky that no one needs more than one dress choice?
He’s traveling between his 3 houses.
The lack of outrage with this just shows that a lot of the people who read these magazines would be ok with a monarchy and ruling class, as long as they’re perty and wear fancy clothes. She obviously believes this too. Where is old man Sanders yelling at the sky that no one needs more than one dress choice?
Wasn’t Trump able to pay only $750 because he was getting credit against taxes he had already paid? Basically he was giving the government an interest free loan.
Well, the thing is….SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She’s the most equal of them all
@Trigger Hippie: It’s great to hear from you. I’m sorry you were and are going through rough times, and I know how stressful, depressing and hard it is. I also did a GoFundMe with the Glibs and I was also blown away at how kind and generous everyone was.
To all Glibs: Thank you for your help. It means the most. You guys are the best and that’s why this is hands-down my favorite place to be. It still easily beats anything in meat-space. Thanks again.
(SP: You’re the greatest of them all!)
Hmmm. Much too much flattery.
What did you do that I didn’t find out about yet? 😉
What have I done…I’m sure I’m supposed to think up a quirky response but that’s too hard! Bah! I’ll just be honest.
Sadly not much has been accomplished. I speech therapy (I graduated and don’t need to do it! Although I liked it. It was never about speech but rather cognitive strategies), occupational therapy, I used to have visual and now just like one more physical therapy. That’s for a weeeird thing that happened to my left leg. Completely unrelated.
I’m trying to get back to Korea and just today applied to several gigs and I’ve got my feelers our their. I also applied for a part time teaching gig here with kids with disabilities. I did well in the interviews and last week I taught two classes and was viewed by the principal! Don’t really want it, but something to keep me busy is good.
I’m sick of not having a job and living with my parents though. That blows. And between not being ‘able’ to drive and the COVID panic, I can’t really go out and do anything. GRRG.
But healthier and resolved. Onwards. Upwards. Always! (
And the greatest that ever will be.
(for those evening glibbers who missed the link)
Thanks trashy
Florida Woman gets fed up with her cable provider, bashes equipment at their office with a crowbar.
The courts are checking her record for pryer offenses.
I have a hard time believing that attacking the cable company should be a crime. I mean, intellectually, yes, it should be a crime. But emotionally, it just feels right.
A perfect opportunity for jury nullification.
Why do you hate Western Union?
It’s almost impossible to communicate with my cable company.
Threaten to cancel..you will get some movement.
You lever get that feeling that someone’s squinting at you?
Only when my fulcrum is offset.
He really pried that reply out of you.
Between his effort and my resistance, it seems we might be able to have a little bit of motion
Will that sort of mechanical interaction provide some advantage?
You win. I cannot load any more puns if we remain this distant in our views.
To pun or not to pun has long been a wedge issue amongst Glibs.
Used a crowbar? Obviously, she was suffering from Corvid-19.
I am in total sympathy. Would vote acquit as the bastard had it coming
*narrows gaze*
Congratulations Hyperbole, he fell into your trap!
You lever get that feeling that someone’s squinting at you?
Oh, and if SP is still here, it’s still doing that jump to the top thing.
Yep, working on it, but have been unable to identify the issue, so far.
OK, thanks 🙂
Glibs has solved the problem of the race to the bottom!
That cat video was more entertaining than it had any right to be. Home Depot could just fire their ad agency and run that.
Goddamn.
I have never seen mosquitoes this bad. The neighbor’s dogs hang out at my house most of the time (those assholes are never home, just throw their dogs in the yard and forget about them) and I have an outdoor cat that refuses to come inside. I went out to feed the lot of them a bit ago and there were hundreds of mosquitoes swarming the poor critters.
I broke out the new fogger and smoked the place up. I do that every day and it will kill them off for an hour or two but there is an infinite supply of replacements in the woods around here.
We dont need another storm. We need a week of freezing weather.
Bat boxes?
We have Spanish moss. Bats roost in clumps of Spanish moss. We have lots of bats.
I think the storms sucked up a bazillion extra mosquitoes and deposited them here.
No one ever accused Louisiana of having a shortage of bugs.
This is true.
Ambrose Bierce recalled spanish moss at Shiloh.
I’ve never figured out if that were poetic license, the wreckage of a weak memory, or a confabulation born of the notion that all swamps are the same.
Damn dirty plebs
The long-feared surge is blamed in part on growing disregard for social distancing and mask-wearing, as well as the onset of cold weather, which is forcing people indoors, where the virus can spread more easily.
Dr. David Letzer, an infectious-disease specialist who doubles as chairman of the Wisconsin Medical Society’s COVID-19 task force and is getting swamped with patients, said he was incensed to see people without masks going into a restaurant as he was driving between hospitals.
“I’m just coming from a place with ventilators and people are just going to an indoor restaurant,” he said. “Those are the things that are frustrating and take their toll.”
What’s the point of being a Top Man, if people refuse to kowtow to you? You might as well be a plumber.
Fuck the moron doctor who never even thought before 2020 about wearing a face mask in a restaurant. Because everyone including him knew that it was stupid and pointless. If you wear a mask, you’re a retard.
Enter restaurant with mask, sit down, remove mask, eat and drink…sounds legit.
The Kung Murder Death Flu only travels at altitudes of > 5′ AGL, it flys over your head. It is known. Don’t you effing love science?
Vice does a half ass job covering the erupting tensions in this country
Off the top of my head they missed addressing
– The attempted coup
– Perceptions (whether real or not) of massive vote fraud
– broader Cultural disenfranchisement of anybody right of Bernie
– The fact that the US is one of two or three lynchpins in the global economy, and a civil war would not bode well for international stability
I mused last night before I realized I needed to go to sleep. ~50% of the country at any given 4-year cycle doesn’t trust the Executive, Upwards of 80-90% of the country doesn’t trust the Legislative and nearly all of the country believes the Judicial is their savior to their woes.
Couple that with what you bring up, we are just waiting for the when and how the game will be played.
It’s hard to say to what extent this current era of tension creates inevitable violence. From my perspective, there doesn’t seem to be an escape to any semblance of unity. 9/11 could happen again tomorrow, and I still think we’d be at each other’s throats.
The only question in my mind is whether a little bit of bloodletting will be enough to knock some sense into the left, or whether they’ve spent the last 50 years building such a vast logistical network that they won’t wither when they get punched in the nose.
9/11 could happen again tomorrow, and I still think we’d be at each other’s throats.
I don’t doubt it. The pandemic is just another front in the Culture War today.
Given that the vast majority of the left is concentrated in urban areas with few avenues for access, no ability to produce food or supply themselves with water I dont know how they delude themselves into thinking they have a chance.
They trust and believe that the rural farm boys and rednecks will never come in contact with “Atlas Shrugged.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/realTanyaTay/status/1321531284859064320
Sliced bread 2020!
EH…looks like they took advantage of a mentally ill person, but could be wrong. I just don’t trust anything.
Dunno, dude seemed pretty on point. Just a bit of a character.
They found Hyperion!
“Ben Shapiro’s Voice Now Available For Your GPS”
https://babylonbee.com/news/ben-shapiros-voice-now-available-for-your-gps-unit/
What’s a GPS unit?
/millennial
Don’t ask me, I have an analogue compass.
A great device that doesn’t drop out when you don’t have coverage from a tower and only costs about a hundred bucks.
and doesn’t refuse to close the damn map when you change your mind about where you are going, yet inevitably close your map when you tap the screen accidentally as you lift the phone to try and figure out how Google got you onto a 45 mile gravel road in the middle of nowhere.
That sums up my drive around western SD
I still like paper maps.
Meh, I take a quick look at the Rand McNally Atlas and hit the road, no gps, no maps, take back roads whenever the highway gets too boring/congested. Sure it took me 17 hours to get to from Columbus to Memphis once , but that’s part of the adventure.
I always plan & memorize my routes days or weeks beforehand. I use GPS in case of a change of plans, but damned if the thing is a temperamental bitch. Especially when you have it connected to the car with bluetooth, and your map keeps minimizing over & over & over with some B.S. alert about not being connected properly or some shit.
It got me there and in Montana. Protip, if you are going to Pompey’s Pillar (which you definitely should someday, but not this year because the stairs up to the Clark signature are closed) there is both a town named that and a monument named that, and GPS will take you to the town via gravel roads, of either 7 miles or 30+ miles depending on where you are coming from, then you will feel REALLY stupid after you get done because if you had simply followed the street signs you would have discovered that the monument was about a quarter mile along a well paved State road.
But my best adventure was in Wyoming one year when I got to Devil’s Tower and decided to skip it because the line of cars was like a mile long. Google was apparently telling me to pull onto a logging road just to turn around, but then it glitched out and never told me the turn around part. This began a hell of an adventure because by the time I figured it out there was no way to turn around so I took a rental car on a 2 hour trip on unpaved roads, including a short stretch that was just tire ruts around boulders in a totally abandoned logging site about 8 miles from any possibility of human assistance if I got stuck.
“A recent study has determined that a majority of college undergrads are complete morons. ”
https://notthebee.com/article/a-recent-study-has-determined-that-a-majority-of-college-undergrads-are-complete-morons
Morons who will be underemployed their whole lives due to reparation payments they sanctioned and supported.
Hopefully they’ll live long enough to be more wise and less stupid. Time works that trick for a lot of people.
Check out the optimist over here.
“Once they are demoralized you cannot fix them. No matter how much authentic information you give them they cannot draw a sensible conclusion. You are stuck with them.” – Yuri Bezmenov
“Good grief, look at all the fucking taxes.”
-Me 30 years ago on getting my first career job paycheck
If that doesn’t bring them back to reality nothing will and if it doesn’t were in deep trouble.
I’m not sure what’s more worrying: That I relate to the Alex Jones sones, or that my watching habits are enough like SF’s that it popped up in both our recommended feeds.
Next year’s Boston Marathon will be postponed, BAA announces, with eye toward Fall 2021 date
Because those runners aren’t socially distanced….
The problem with getting big events back to normal is that they require elaborate, and expensive, advance planning. Planning your big event next year can bankrupt you if the assholes extend orders against gatherings, or the cowards refuse to come out for your event. So I predict that there will be a lag of six months minimum on large events once the assholes finally drop the tyrrany, assuming they ever do.
^Pretty much this. I bet they don’t run it again until 2022.
by which time all the hotels will be boarded up
so bring a tent
And pack a cooler because the restaurants will all be closed as well.
I was once part of a professional group of engineers in a very niche area.
We made our own professional organization so we could cover our odd topic. We only colll OK ectoderm enough dues to pay for our annual meeting and the deposit for the next year.
We had to cancel just one year, but it was after we’d paid the Nonrefundable deposit.
We had to dissolve the group. Permanently.
Isn’t autocorrect fun? LOL
Yep, and why I’m not counting on going out for Burning Man next year.
I feel sorry for Olympic athletes, especially in sports with no future earnings potential.
They pour everything into precise timing of their athletic peak at Olympics every 4 years. If they miss an Olympic Games, that might be the end of their careers.
Could be worse, like being a Soviet or ChiCom athlete who misses her event. Those poor kids are molded by the state as some kind of pedigreed animal at a show of superiority. Once they’ve served the state, what sort of life do they lead?
I’m pretty sure the Olympic level athletes in hard socialist countries, once they have competed and filled their role, are given jobs as coaches, or at worst, some admin position in the nation’s Olympic program. Even if they cannot compete anymore they have some level of knowledge about the process which can be made useful.
Boston Weak.
“Jayla recorded the incident on her phone.”
Herds.
Thinning.
Rhode Island:
You don’t *need* to be standing at a microphone bossing us around, Mrs. Raimondo.
Oddly I don’t need some asshole whose qualification is that they won a popualrity contest telling me what I need.
“You don’t need to go watch a sports game or a sports practice,””\
And you don’t need so many teeth.
This right here.
I was thinking the same but alas someone else will have to do that. I will never raise my hand to a woman.
I will pay good money to watch.
Oops, I didn’t realize it was a she. I’ll just hold hayeksplosive’s coat.
How are these metrics derived?
Something to do with a warm moist spot, I reckon.
She’s not wrong, but needs got nothing to do with it.
What part of, “Suck my dick, bitch,” are you not getting?
Huh. Rhode Island has had a mask mandate since April 20th, 2020. I thought masks worked?
Notes from Downtown Beirut. Curfew tonight. All businesses have to be closed by 9. My apartment building has barriers by one entrance.
And my background check apparently is still in Review status. The shop says if it takes this long (now 4 days) it will probably be denied.
https://www.psp.pa.gov/firearms-information/Firearms%20Forms/SP4-197_Pennsylvania%20Instant%20Check%20System%20Challenge.docx
Appeal form, in case you need it. Don’t delay, there is a time limit.
Does the PA background check go through NICS, or is it separate?
As I understand it, it’s just PA state police using NICS.
A little googling says it also includes state databases too. *shrug*
Could the delay be that I’ve only been in PA a year and half and have lived in 4 states?
Dunno, I vaguely recall having to wait my first time. But my gf got hers right away. We were both fresh NJ refugees.
OK thanks. Was hoping to have it before election night but not looking good.
They said they would give me an appeal form but I have to wait until I’m denied.
I’ve been in research a couple times over the years. Didn’t make any sense.
Coming to a state near you on “Day One”
HTML img Tag
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=76f43855ae&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r5198158778877521067&th=1757181bb759c307&view=att&disp=safe&realattid=1757181980af15fb44a1
lol I gave it a shot. It’s an image of California’s new mandatory guidelines for Thanksgiving and Christmas get togethers. Here’s a link to an article:
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-california-gavin-newsom-new-rules-gatherings-thanksgiving-1541402
It is a good thing that we have constitutionally protection of freedom of association specifically forbidding bullshit like that.
The Tree needs watering again.
If the courts punt on it does that right really exist? Functionally at least it doesn’t right now.
The right exists; the government can only infringe it, they can never take it away.
There were discussions among the FF as to whether or not the system they created would work. The conclusion: This system will only work if the population is moral. For immoral people no system will work and governance will devolve to the threat of violence.
I think ‘punt’ is not the right word. I would say ‘drop the ball’. We have a lot of bad apples in the court system.
We tend to blame the courts, the Congress, this president and that president, but in the end their failings are symptoms. The disease is our collective lack of the virtues required to maintain a republic. You need a high percentage of the population to be able to differentiate between “I want x” and “we, as a people should do y,” and having differentiated go on to make the right decision, and to hold the government and institutions accountable when they stop doing y and start doing x.
It’s not a thing that can be tricked or forced into happening because it requires both that people put aside their immediate, and in some cases long term, desires out of a sense of civic responsibility AND that they be wise enough to recognize that one of the desires that needs to be put aside is the desire to use the power of the State to try to make people virtuous. So basically you need people willing to sacrifice their personal desires to preserve the Republic, but unwilling to sacrifice their neighbor’s desires when their neighbor doesn’t ‘act properly’.
I don’t think we are ever getting back to that point now, if we ever really were there. The problem is that for any of this to be possible there has to be a shared idea of the proper sphere of government, and compromises need to be in the direction of giving up pet projects that the other side will not accept rather than in the direction of giving them their pet project in return for getting yours, otherwise Leviathan just gets bigger.
“ new safety guidelines for all private gatherings”
Rage building.
https://amp.thepostmillennial.com/first-suspect-charged-over-assault-of-a-deputized-portland-police-officer/
Poor Skyler.
*snicker*
18? That guy?
If Biden wins, he walks.
I have moved my
lap topdrinking station back to its winter position in front of the wood stove. I glanced over at my dusty Mtn bike and the cabinet behind it. Next to a stack of old kiteboarding VCR tapes sits a stack of CD’s. Top CD cover track is this. That is the last song that actually sang about MLK’s Dream that I am aware of.I got polled, I got polled!! It was fun. I went on short rants about the questions. (As in why not put the Libertarian candidate on this question since they are on the ballot in all 50 states?”, and “At least they let the Libertarian candidate debate in our state) Of course none of that will be admitted, just “Do you agree or disagree with xyz?” Are you voting for Governor candidate with a R or D? (Missouri) “Is what you have read or seen on Governor candidate D/R favorable or unfavorable?” And obviously about the Pres. election.
On the favorable on our current governor who is running I said, “At least he ain’t trying to make me wear a mask!”
Anyway, I think I at least made the lady smile and put some humor into her evening.
This question is not just for you Lazer but for everyone.
Is there a libertarian candidate or party organization that is actually libertarian? Every one I have seen is a closet leftist.
Mises Caucus maybe?
The answer my friend is blowing in the wind.
The Texas LP is fairly libertarian. There’s a faction that’s more Republican-lite, but even they aren’t *bad*. We’ve had some statewide candidates that were, IMHO, pretty good.
The “closet leftists” bit makes that question impossible to answer. Any candidate I propose you can simply dismiss their stated and published policy positions because you “know” what they really think. In other words you’ve answered you own question.
Do you rent yourself out for parties?
Maybe…what do you have in mind? I know a few magic tricks and can juggle, but I don’t dance and my guitar playing is horrendous.
doubtful but better than an R or D? Hell, who knows, but i like giving my .02 to whoever will listen
Would it be considered a threat if I just carried the article around about the “fine young ladies” (probably on their way to Community College) who stabbed the clerk asking about their mask, and just handed that to anyone who asks me about my mask???