Chili Two Ways

by | Nov 5, 2020 | Cooking, Food & Drink, Recipes | 331 comments

pistoffnick’s Deer Camp Chili

Ingredients

  • 2.5 lbs meat (either beef or venison) sliced into 1/2″ – 3/4″ cubes
  • 1 lb Italian sausage
  • 1 28 oz can crushed tomatoes with juice
  • 1 6 oz can tomato paste
  • 1 large white or yellow onion, diced chunky
  • 1 red or orange bell pepper,  seeded and chopped
  • 2 cups beef stock
  • 1 Tbsp minced garlic
  • 1.5 Tbsp dried oregano
  • 1 Tbsp ground cumin
  • 1 Tbsp paprika
  • 1 teaspoon garlic powder
  • 1 tsp salt
  • 1 tsp ground black pepper
  • 1 tsp Cayenne pepper, more if you like it spicy

Directions

Brown beef or venison and sausage, drain.

Cook the onions and peppers in olive oil until translucent. Drain and add to crock.

Add the rest of the ingredients to the crock.

Simmer over low heat for at least 2 hours.  Longer is better. (TWSS)

I usually assemble everything ahead of time, then freeze it in a gallon zip lock bag.  The night before opener I pull it out of the freezer to thaw on the counter.  In the morning it is thawed enough to dump in the crock pot and let it simmer from 5:30 am until we all come in from the cold at noon.

 

Colorado Green Chili

Ingredients

  • 1 tablespoon olive oil
  • 1 ½ – 2 pounds cubed pork (I like 3/4″ to 1″ chunks)
  • 1/2 pound of bacon
  • salt and pepper to taste
  • 1 large yellow onion, diced
  • 4 cloves garlic, minced
  • 2 cups chopped, roasted green chiles (Hatch if you can find them, poblanos if you can’t)
  • 1 (14.5 ounce) can diced tomatoes with juice
  • 1 ½ cups tomatillo salsa
  • 2 cups chicken broth
  • ½ teaspoon dried oregano
  • 1 pinch ground cloves

Directions

  • Step 1  Heat the olive oil in a Dutch oven or large pot over medium-high heat. Season the pork with salt and pepper, then place into the hot oil. Cook until golden brown on all sides, about 10 minutes. Once browned, remove the pork and set aside. Fry the bacon until crisp.  Crumble it and set it aside.  Reduce heat to medium, and stir in the onion and garlic. Cook and stir until the onion has softened and turned translucent, about 10 minutes.
  • Step 2  Return the pork and bacon to the pot, and stir in the green chiles, diced tomatoes with juice, tomatillo salsa, and chicken broth. Season with oregano and clove. Bring to a simmer over medium-high heat, then reduce heat to medium-low, cover, and simmer 60 minutes.  Add salt and pepper to taste.

I serve both of these chilis over rice (or riced cauliflower).  Top with sour cream, shredded cheese, sliced green onions, or sliced jalapenos.  Accompany with corn muffins and some of Fourscore’s homegrown honey.

This will warm your hunting buddies* right up and they won’t even mention all the poker money you took from them last night.

Minnesota rifle deer opener is November 7th.  I’ll be about 15 minutes north of A Leap at the Wheel and Fourscore trying to stay awake until I can see a deer.  Also trying not to get lost on the way to my ground blind (this has happened more than once).

Speaking of chili

“Time is just a rubber band.

Time** is at our command.”

* The guys I hunt with are 3 stay-at-home-dads whose wives are all gynecologists, an architect, and a printer.

**My soul has been psychodelisized!

About The Author

pistoffnick (370HSSV)

pistoffnick (370HSSV)

pistoffnick is just a dude holding a stop sign at the edge of the lemming cliff. Conscientious objector to the race/culture wars. Dreaming of life on the lip of an ocean swell. Located on the corner of sanity and madness.

331 Comments

  1. Not Adahn

    I guess “Camp Chili” is like “Camp Follower.”

    Bell peppers in chili? GTFOOHWT.

    • pistoffnick

      Try it. You might like it,

  2. PieInTheSky

    How can you think of your stomach at a time like this?

  3. Not Adahn

    ALso, your “speaking of chili” link had their YT account revoked.

  4. Idle Hands

    chorizo or gtfo.

    • Idle Hands

      also need some hobaneros. I like to be warm.

      • RBS

        hobaneros

        Spicy hobos?

      • Idle Hands

        I find the butt to be quite spicy.

      • WTF

        STEVE SMITH FIND THE BUTT!!

      • Not Adahn

        WHAT WHAT?

  5. PieInTheSky

    Wait I thought chilli had beans in it but they are not on the ingredient list.

    Can you make this in a pressure cooker? Can I use local chilies? If I replace the bacon with panceta will it work? I only have red onion.

    • Idle Hands

      solid point need at least two types of beans for it to be chili, I go kidney and pinto.

      • Not Adahn

        *narrows gaze*

      • Idle Hands

        Didn’t realize we had an FDA grain inspector in here.

      • R C Dean

        Beans are optional at best, and may disqualify a dish as chili, depending on your chili faith tradition.

        Bell peppers? Oy.

        Tomatos? See beans, above.

        Those dishes both look plenty tasty, though.

        One of these days Abuela Dean’s New Mex red chili recipe will resurface, and I will learn you how to make OG chili. It starts “Go get some chilis off the ristra ristra“.

      • robc

        Big Bang Theory, paraphrased:

        Sheldon: This isn’t chili. It is tasty, whatever it is.

      • pistoffnick

        “…Abuela Dean’s New Mex red chili recipe…”

        I’d like that recipe.

      • R C Dean

        Yeah, me too. Its handwritten and undoubtedly stuck between the pages of a cookbook in Mrs. Dean’s extensive library of cookbooks.

    • CPRM

      Just have some goulash, it’s the same thing midwest chili.

      • PieInTheSky

        I did multiple times. I blame the Hungarians.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Goulash in Minnesoda is pretty much bland chili served over elbow macaroni. Hungarians would burn our state to the ground if they realized what we are passing off as goulash here.

      • Tundra

        BLM/antifa are Hungarians?

      • Caput Lupinum

        The current Orbán Viktor administration banned universities from teaching gender studies, the Hungarians are as close to actual fascists as you can find in modern politics, atleast under the definition that antifa uses.

      • PieInTheSky

        Why put Orban first?

      • PieInTheSky

        Fun fact: the prime minister of Romania is Ludovic Orban, no relation

      • Caput Lupinum

        In Hungarian names follow the usual Asian pattern of family name first, personal name last, so in Hungarian you’d call him Orbán Viktor, not Viktor Orbán.

      • PieInTheSky

        officially so is in Romania but in regular speech no one does it . In all paperwork my family name cones first

      • Caput Lupinum

        I’ll dig up the family recipe later if you want to try real gulyás. Or actually measure for once the next time I make it.

      • pistoffnick

        “…real gulyás…”

        I’d like that.

        I’ll try anything once. The things I like, I’ll try them twice.

        I would guess the issue is finding authentic ingredient in Northern Minnesota

      • Caput Lupinum

        Not really; gulyás translates into English as cowboy, like chili it started as a spicy stew made from cheap beef over a campfire, it isn’t a very complicated dish. The most exotic ingredient is paprika, which is pretty ubiquitous. Finding spicy Hungarian paprika instead of sweet Spanish paprika is going to be the hardest part.

        Basic ingredients are:

        Beef, sometimes lamb and or goat
        Onions
        Potatoes or pasta or small dumplings, some type of starch
        Paprika
        Cumin
        Salt
        Pepper
        Root vegetables, usually carrots but I like the pepper notes from parsnips

      • Caput Lupinum

        Meh, csirkepaprikás is better. Americans, especially those from areas that sell extra mild salsa, tend to get confused if you give them actual gulyas.

      • PieInTheSky

        I have had paprikás but not with the extra syllable in front

      • Caput Lupinum

        Csirke just means chicken. Usually implied if the dish is just called paprikás, but I like to be specific.

    • Not Adahn

      Have you ever seen plump little old ladies in San Antonio with pressure cookers?

    • RBS

      Wait I thought chilli had beans in it

      That would be chili with beans…

      • Idle Hands

        gtfo out of here Mounty. This is an FBI operation.

    • pistoffnick

      You can put beans in yours. I don’t like beans and they are high carb.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        They’re good for your heart, though.

      • PieInTheSky

        and for the bowels

      • pistoffnick

        “They’re good for your heart, though.”

        My heart is black and cold.

      • RBS

        Yes, the musical fruit.

  6. CPRM

    MinnySoda extra mild chili.

    • R C Dean

      Ground beef and ketchup, right?

  7. Not Adahn

    On a less-deliberatly combative note, the chili verde/puerco guisada recipe looks on point.

  8. Tundra

    Looks good, Nick!

    Chili Sauce!

  9. RBS

    Regardless of your feelings on beans/no beans, I think we can all agree that Skyline is not chili at all.

    • robc

      Chili was the closest American word to the Greek name of the dish, is my understanding.

  10. CPRM

    I like adding some pickled peppers (both jalapeno and green chili), gives some vinegary umami. I usually use at least 4 kinds of hot peppers.

  11. Not Adahn

    3 stay-at-home-dads whose wives are all gynecologists

    Do they have a particular fondness for flannel and drive Subarus?

    • pistoffnick

      Flannel – yes

      Subarus- no. They all drive top-of-the-line black Suburbans or Yukons roliin’ on 20″s.

  12. Pope Jimbo

    The youngest Altar Boy’s girl friend was pretty sick on Monday so she got tested for the Rona. No results back yet. Hopefully we hear back today or tomorrow so he can go hunting in the deer opener. I really want to leave tonight and beat the traffic up north for Deer Season.

    His stand had a lot of tracks around it in the snow when I was out there a week ago. If he misses this year he is passing up a sure thing.

    • PieInTheSky

      so he can go hunting in the deer opener – would not want to give the deer covid.

      Hope all will be well. One reason not to have a girl friend. Chinese cooties

      • Pope Jimbo

        He’s got a 76 year-old gramps to worry about. He’s in good shape, so I don’t think he’s high risk to die of the Rona, but it is one of those deals where being safe is probably being better than sorry.

        I also am pretty sure that he’s still probably trying to cajole his new girlfriend into unsavory acts even knowing she may be infected. He’s 20 and it is the season for him to be in rut and isn’t thinking clearly.

      • Raven Nation

        “He’s 20 and it is the season for him to be in rut” Only about 60 years of the season left?

        Reminds me of a vaguely remembered line from some TV show:

        18yo boy: some people think guns lead boys to think about sex.

        18yo girl: do guns make YOU think about sex?

        18yo boy: I’m 18. Linoleum makes me think about sex.

      • SDF-7

        It was 17. Xander Harris, Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

        And with Allyson Hannigan, Charisma Carpenter and Sarah Michelle Gellar — I doubt it took much linoleum.

      • CPRM

        I knew I recognized the quote, couldn’t figure out from where. Was this when he was dating the ex-demon? No, if as you say it ’17’, because that was when they were in college I believe.(She was hotter than Hannigan or Carpenter, Fight Me!!)

      • Raven Nation

        He was dating Cordelia with whom he was having that conversation.

      • R C Dean

        Saw Ms. Gellar for the first time in ages in a commercial a few days ago.

        Yeah, still does it for me.

    • Not Adahn

      he is passing up a sure thing.

      Talking about your son’s gf like that is uncool.

      • Sensei

        Nice…

    • The Other Kevin

      I’m in the same boat as you. My mother in law has a high fever and cough, and they diagnosed her with COVID based on a chest x-ray. Her swab test will come back today and tomorrow. We last saw her Monday, so if she has it my whole family is at risk. Everybody else feels fine, so hopefully her test is negative, and if not I’m going to get a rapid test to make sure.

      • Nephilium

        My dad got tested a couple weeks back, and it came back positive for the COVID. No symptoms, no issues, and that was a couple weeks back.

  13. Pine_Tree

    Just to be a little provocative: Ya know all those ballot-security/election-integrity measures we can theorize about (see the few previous threads)?

    Well, they’re coming – not EXACTLY the way you’d have them, but in a way that brings a lot more scrutiny and documentation. Wanna know when? As soon as the Donks hold one house of Congress and the Presidency.

    It’s just that, as executed, they’ll be part of their permanent reign. All the “hard” fixes will be locked in to lock in the D-forever result. And the Stupid Party (holding the other house) will go along with it because they’re the Stupid Party, and will pretend that it’s about integrity and other stuff they pretend to believe in.

    • Fatty Bolger

      I don’t get it. How does making voting more accurate and transparent help Democrats?

      • R C Dean

        not EXACTLY the way you’d have them

        Well, I expect the package will include mandatory vote-by-mail for federal elections (for access, donchaknow). With oversight provided, not by icky political parties, but by Selfless Public Servants. Ballot security will be enhanced by doing away with that archaic “anonymous voting” thing.

        Stuff like that.

      • Gustave Lytton

        The Australian ballot is unAmerican.

      • zwak

        It will be much as Californias “non-partisan” voter districts.

      • Pine_Tree

        Yeah, “accurate and transparent” is what YOU would want, not what THEY would want. Their objective is control of the outcome. The “control” part will be there in the method, too – mandatory this-and-that, their own electronic systems with them in control of all the records.

  14. Pope Jimbo

    You know, I haven’t heard any scare stories about deer camps being Rona factories. Maybe they realize that the tradition of deer camp is going to trump any concerns about the Rona?

    I know that deer hunting in Minnesoda is one of my least favorite types of hunting. What I love about it is hanging out with my sons and dad during the weekend. Telling all the old stories, bragging about past years or taunting others about misses. That is the only reason I still go out and sit in a tree like a fool.

    The commisars down at the dept of health probably realize that it isn’t wise to provoke a bunch of savages who have a lot of rifles and shotguns and are just going to let things lie. Trump could do us a solid though and come out publicly against deer camps. That way the Karens and MSM would demand that everyone go to a deer camp for their own good.

    • PieInTheSky

      the only manly type of hunting is wild boar with nothing but a knife

      • Not Adahn

        While oiled up, shirtless, and wearing tight pants?

      • UnCivilServant

        He’s not wrestling Turks.

      • PieInTheSky

        not sober at least

      • Cy

        I work with someone who did this while he was a teenager. It’s considered a perfectly normal thing where he’s from.

        I’ve done some pretty stupid risky shit. But that’s above my tolerance. Those boars are no joke and will gore you, gut you and eat you if they think they can get away with it.

      • Pope Jimbo

        A hunter I know from NW Minnesoda went to Texas to do exactly that. Sat in a ground blind until a boar came by and then he leaped out and stuck it with a big ass knife. He said it was fun, but I got the vibe that he wasn’t all that excited to do it again.

      • R C Dean

        While the cowboys do favor knives for finishing feral hogs, this is in connection with a group hunt using packs of trained and armored dogs, which immobilize the hogs.

        They use knives because hogs run in packs*, and a gunshot will scatter the pack. Having been face to face with feral hogs, I have passed on the opportunity to hunt them this way. I prefer to hunt animals that can easily kill me with ranged weapons, not melee weapons.

        *I know, technically “sounders”.

    • CPRM

      It’s the second week of deer camp
      And all the guys are here
      We drink play cards and shoot the bull
      But never shoot no deer
      The only time we leave the camp
      Is when we go for beer
      The second week of deer camp
      Is the greatest time of year

      • Stillhunter

        Hey, you shot my cow!!

    • slumbrew

      Everything about hunting sounds cool to me except for the actual shooting deer part.

      • Pine_Tree

        No that’s fine, too. It’s shortly afterwards that all the “chore” part starts.

      • Pope Jimbo

        15 minutes of intense excitement followed by 8 hours of drudge work.

        That is the best description of deer hunting in Minnesoda I have ever heard. Like I said, I could give it up pretty easy except for the fun of sitting around talking shit.

        Watching my sons get old enough to begin going deer hunting and being complete rookies to know where they are pretty seasoned hunters has been one of the best things about being their dad.

      • pistoffnick

        “…sounds cool to me except for the actual shooting deer part”

        I thought I would have a hard time with that too (I did not grow up in a family that hunted. In fact, momma didn’t allow guns in the house.)

        Turns out I’m a stone-cold killer.

        I made a shoulder holster out of its skin.

      • Viking1865

        I very much divide animals into food animals and cute animals. I spent every second of Mike Vick’s comeback hoping for an absolutely crippling injury. If someone had broken his fucking spine I’d have bought that guy’s jersey.

      • R C Dean

        I see I’m not the only one who would watch the Eagles solely to see the hit that shattered his knee.

      • CPRM

        I’ve liked all the dogs I’ve had, even cried when they died; but I don’t get this disgust. Other people’s dogs are property. I have no emotional attachment to them. And should be thought of as property.

        I identify with John Wick when he goes on a killing spree because they killed HIS dog. If he went on a killing spree because they killed a dog 2 states away, he’d be a disgusting freak with murderous intent.

      • R C Dean

        I’ve liked all the dogs I’ve had, even cried when they died

        Do you cry when your vacuum cleaner breaks? Its just property, like your dogs, after all.

        /snark OFF

        If Vick had been putting his dogs down humanely, I would have no problem. But he ran a fighting dog operation, which involves torturing dogs, and if memory serves, he would torture losing dogs to death.

        Anyone who does that is on my permanent shit list, because in my book, only a really, really bad person would do that. I don’t need to be personally acquainted with any animal (or human) to be revolted when they are treated that way, and to hate the person who does it.

      • CPRM

        Do you cry when your vacuum cleaner breaks?

        I still have nightmares about loosing the add-on head for my Power Master Optimus Prime.

      • CPRM

        and I’m the kind of person that Literally won’t hurt a fly, unless it keeps landing on me. Personally, I think there is something wrong with people who derive pleasure from hunting. I could not kill another living without cause. But, animals are property. They are not sentient. If someone can prove another species is sentient, then, and only then, will I give a shit about what other people do with animal meat sacks.

    • pistoffnick

      Two of the six of us are out this year due to Covid exposure. Most of us got tested beforehand.

      Yeah I could care less about getting a deer or not. I do like watching the sun rise. And I like the lizard brain response I get when I see a deer (focused concentration, all the forest sounds disappear, your pulse picks up)

      The fun part of deer camp, and perhaps many non-deer-hunters don’t understand, is that camp is a time to get together with your friends, get drunk, do foolish things (2 years ago we set off $1500 of illegal fireworks), watch “Moonlight in da Escanaba”, and let loose.

      • PieInTheSky

        The fun part of deer camp, and perhaps many non-deer-hunters don’t understand, is that camp is a time to get together with your friends, get drunk, do foolish things – I blame toxic masculinity

      • Pope Jimbo

        It is kind of funny, but it is true.

        When I was a kid, I had done all sorts of bird hunting as well as squirrel and rabbit hunting but I could hardly wait to turn 13 because it meant I could start deer hunting and hanging out with the adult men. A big step in your path to adulthood. Seemed very important to me at the time.

        And like I said here, watching my sons hit that same milestone was super gratifying.

        It really is a male initiation rite. I know that there are a lot of women hunters (my mother and sister both have shot deer and moose), but I still think hunting provides an important opportunity for boys to learn how to be men. Not just how to hunt, but how to act around other men. Pull your own weight, no whining, sharing, how to tease someone and how to take being teased.

        What was even funnier to me was watching the oldest Altar Boy condescendingly coach the younger Altar Boy in all the mysteries of hunting camps. I never had a brother so it amuses me to watch that relationship in action.

      • Fourscore

        Youth, a great time to be with Dad, brothers and other gang members. Hunting, story telling, miserable when wet and cold, learning what to do, where to go for the next year and the next and the next…

        I left home at barely 19, never got to hunt with my dad again. It was only after I retired that my brothers and I had a chance to start to relive the old stories, make up new ones. Now they are gone…My kids were not interested but one grand daughter hunted with me a little last year. This year she is in Alaska, learning moose hunting but not allowed to shoot one for a year .

        What Jimbo said, not much to add.

      • slumbrew

        Oh, I get all of the fun parts – my brother-in-law belongs to a hunting club in NY and I’m well aware that the hunting itself is secondary to pretty much everything else for those boys.

      • Fourscore

        Nick, the season is 2 weeks long. gonna be pretty quiet after the first week end (even during the first week end). Cabin will be empty and you are welcome to hide out with us (me). Best days are early but the deer don’t know that, they visit whenever they like. OTOH, you’d have to listen to my stories…

    • Cy

      Pretty sure all of hat alcohol kills the rona!

  15. Not Adahn

    This looks like a great weekend for shooting. Highs in the mid 60s, with a Kayderrosseras match on Saturday and a USPSA match on Sunday.

    Next year I’ll designate one of the pre-track season Kayderrosseras matches as a Glib Meetup,

    • EvilSheldon

      The new Carry Optics CZ Shadow 2 will be going out for a test drive on Saturday…

      • Not Adahn

        I’m sure you will love it, unless you’ve been spoiled by your 2011s.

        I’ve been spending 10 minutes a day practicing reolading, and I”ve discoverd that it’s waaaay too easy to pull the baseplates off accidentally. I also have some mags that aren’t dropping free, but I can’t for the life of me figure out why. Ther doesn’t seem to be anythign different about them from the ones that work. I’m guessing it must be some slight deformity that isn’t eyeball-obvious.

        I’m thinking about picking up some brass baseplates to help.

      • EvilSheldon

        The Shock Bottle baseplates at Ben Stoeger Pro Shop are pretty nice. Easy to remove when you want to, so you’ll be more encouraged to clean your magazines, but they’re not gonna come off by accident.

        I’m sure I have been spoiled by my 2011s, but even the stock trigger on the Shadow 2 is totally shootable. But I may or may not have been thinking about getting a backup Shadow 2, so I could send them to Cajun Gunworks one at a time…

      • Not Adahn

        Supposedly those do not fit 10 round magazines… somehow.

        These are perfect for the Mec Gar branded magazines (not including 10 round magazines)

      • Not Adahn

        Additional weirdness:

        In addition, they do not add capacity and each weigh less than 1 oz.

        Weighs 1.9 Ounces (Adds 1.75 Ounces)

  16. Pope Jimbo

    BTW, best of luck to Leap and Fourscore.

    I hope Fourscore tricks Leap into believing silly things like he has to drink some of the blood of his first deer (or eat some of the raw liver).

    Of course Fourscore probably can’t be bothered to leave his Taj Mahal deer stand in the sky to prank Leap.

    • PieInTheSky

      eat some of the raw liver) – I think Joe Rogan does that. for the vitamins.

    • Tundra

      Good luck to all of you!

      I will take any heart and liver you guys don’t want.

      Yum.

      • Fourscore

        “MinnySoda extra mild chili”

        With the beans. The old timer with the blue ’50 Chevy is supporting us this year with the logistics. Looks like some personnel changes for opener but we’ll work with what we have. The weather is predicted to be scary warm, all critters will need to get in the cooler ASAP. I can’t remember an opener as warm as this though.

        PONick is only 20 minutes away, we’ll have chili at least twice so who knows. Looks like an open stand is available for anyone with a red suit.

        Tundra, we WILL save the innards for you, froze immediately.

      • Pope Jimbo

        We’ll see about the heart and liver. We normally leave that for the fox. But would you be interested in leg bones? The guy I used to give them too lost his mutt this year. My sister will take a few for her new dog.

        When I had my old mutt, I’d always save at least one leg bone for him until Spring. Then on that first gorgeous sunny day, I’d give it to him. You’ve never seen happiness until you saw him sitting on a snow bank chewing his way through a deer leg while surveying the neighborhood.

    • Pope Jimbo

      View from my deer stand.

      Fourscore has a whole cabin with a heater in his tree. I’m totes envious of his setup. On the other hand, I love my stand because it is on private land and I can leave it up. Beats having to hunt public land as a kid. Either hump in a portable stand with you, or just sit on a 5 gallon bucket on the ground and hope for the best.

      • Cy

        I walked a lot of corn fields in my youth. By the time I was old enough to be one of the shooters on the drive my family had already moved away. I really do need to get back into hunting. Hell, I’ve got enough equipment for just about every type and season.

      • Pope Jimbo

        When I was a kid, we would hunt with a big family clan starting on the second day. We spent the first day sitting on a stand hoping for a dumb one to walk by. Starting the second day we’d join up with this big family and do lots of drives for the rest of the season.

        It was effective, but it was hard work. Like you, I did way more driving than posting because I had young legs. I was known as a good enough shot though, that there were times I got to post because I had a much better chance of hitting a running deer across a big field than some old coot did.

        The other problem with hunting them that way is that the deer get shot up because they are always running.

      • Stillhunter

        I remember being a pusher as a youth. Even when it was cold I never got cold since you’re always moving and fighting brush and thorns. Bloody scratches all over.

      • pistoffnick

        The land we hunt used to be owned by my buddy’s parents. Then the county raised taxes to a ridiculous level for lakefront property (they owned the whole 125 acre peninsula). They sold it to the state so now it is public land.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Did the state also make sure that any potential private buyers would never be able to build anything on it? No adding any fill to put a nice cabin on? Or to improve some shoreline to put a dock on?

        I love it when they do that.

        I used to own a cabin in Wisconsin and the lot next to us had been sold to the Wisconsin DNR because they had basically made it impossible to build anything on it. Worked out great for us because we didn’t have a neighbor close by on that side of us. Probably pissed off the previous owner of that land though.

      • CPRM

        There was that case that went to SCOTUS a few years ago about a sconnie government changing rules on how far a building can be from the waterfront that made it impossible for a family to sell their property. I remember TOS covered it, but can’t remember the details.

      • R C Dean

        See, now I miss deer hunting in Southern Wisconsin.

    • pistoffnick

      I’ve been trying to get my guys to try deer tongue tacos.

      Our tradition is that the lucky (master) hunter has to do a shot of Jägermeister at the evening meal.

      • slumbrew

        deer tongue tacos

        I’d try that. I like lengua tacos.

      • Not Adahn

        I found it interesting that driving throug several states I saw CWD awareness billboards.

      • slumbrew

        brain, spinal cord, eyes, spleen, tonsils, lymph nodes

        Tongue sounds safe, I guess?

      • Pope Jimbo

        Probably get more buy in to tongue tacos if you killed the deer first. But after a couple shots of Jager? Sure, bring that doe on, but she’s gotta be cute. No fatties!

      • CPRM

        Was that wrong? Was I not supposed to do that?

      • UnCivilServant

        You didn’t even get affirmative consent!

      • Pope Jimbo

        But I bet they wrapped up their willies to stay safe.

        Sure Sconnies like to dig up anything and fuck it, but they do so in the most responsible way

        On a night in September 2006, Alexander Grunke, his brother Nick and friend Dustin Radke went to the St. Charles cemetery in Cassville, Wisconsin, intent on digging up a 20-year-old woman’s body who had died the week before in a car wreck.

        First, they went to a store to buy condoms, according to the police report.

        They dug up the grave but were stymied by the concrete vault holding the woman’s casket. They ran away when a vehicle approached but were stopped by police, with Grunke dressed in black and perspiring profusely.

        In testimony in Grant County court, Radke said his friend had long wanted to have sex with a corpse, according to a report on KCRG-TV’s website.

      • CPRM

        I’d swear Steve Zahn was in a film about this, but it isn’t listed on his IMDB, and I can’t remember anything else about the movie I saw (an entertaining comedy). I swear Steve Zahn was in it though.

    • CPRM

      I really don’t get the guys who pay to go to deer farms to get an easy kill. But to each their own.

      • Fourscore

        In TX, with most land being privately held, ranch hunting is a paying situation for a lot of hunters. Deer management done by the ranch owners. I never hunted that way but public land was tough to find, much like MN is getting to be.

      • CPRM

        These are fenced off private lands in Sconnie where southerners pay good money to come up and go out with a ‘guide’ (who knows the patterns of the deer on the land and even which bucks roam where, to give the customer the exact experience they want, like a deer hunting whore house. I don’t get it, but I don’t care, to each their own)

      • Hyperion

        Yeah, you just wait Bobby until you grow up and get your own place and those giant rats from the pits of hell destroy all your landscaping you worked so hard on. You’ll pull that trigger, you’ll pull that trigger again and again.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Pay no attention to that race traitor Uncle Tom behind the curtain

    For one thing, despite four years of President Donald Trump — that is, of a man who has made White nationalism a central part of his administration and whose abject negligence in the face of a pandemic has contributed to more than 230,000 dead — millions of voters are turning out for him.

    White voters, especially. While early exit polls (which, it’s important to underscore, are notoriously mercurial) indicate that Trump may receive slightly more support from voters of color this year than he did in 2016, the more significant story is that his White base seems sturdy.

    As the political scientist Melanye Price wrote in October of the Trump campaign’s efforts to court Black men, “Even if Black male Republican support increases in 2020, most of the responsibility for a second Trump victory will be attributable to White voters.”

    Black people who voted for Trump are just ignorant fools. White people who voted for Trump want to put you back in chains.

    • The Other Kevin

      “a man who has made White nationalism a central part of his administration”
      Somebody did that, but it wasn’t Trump.

    • Rebel Scum

      a man who has made White nationalism a central part of his administration

      Stated without evidence.

      negligence in the face of a pandemic has contributed to more than 230,000 dead

      Negligent in what way? These people never offer up anything that the president, no matter who it is, can and/or should have done.

  18. trshmnstr the terrible

    I need to find some hunting buddies here so that I’m not stuck going with my FIL.

    • PieInTheSky

      take out a personal ad

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        “Hunting buddy wanted – will bring beer and sit quietly”

      • Cy

        Are you in Texas, DFW? I’m thinking about going when my brother gets into own in a couple of weeks. Out to the grasslands.

    • Pope Jimbo

      We hunt on some private land. The owner used to go to his family’s deer camp. Then about 7 years ago he left that deer camp and started hunting on his own land with us. We slowly got the story of his departure from his family deer camp from him.

      Turns out his brother-in-law made a big stink one year about only shooting big bucks or does. That way the little bucks could grow up into big bucks. Normally this crew was firmly in the “if it is brown, it is down” camp of deer hunting. But the BIL makes a big, big stink about it and they all agree. So they spend most of the week passing up smaller bucks. Some grumbling, but BIL keeps telling them how important it is so that in the future there will be big bucks. Then on the day the BIL is going to leave, he shoots a spike buck.

      Lot of consternation from our buddy. I get the feeling that he and the BIL didn’t get along much to begin with, but this really pissed him off. BIL made up a bunch of lame excuses. Our buddy tells his father that if the BIL comes back next year, he won’t. Father says well, he will always be invited because I’m not going to start a fight with your sister. So since then our buddy has been hunting with us. Which is actually great because not only is he a nice guy, but we don’t even need to drag our deer anymore. Our buddy just drives out with his skid steer at the end of the day and picks them up.

    • Timeloose

      I’ve given up on hunting. I went every year with my dad since I was 12 till around 22 yrs old. I got my first and last buck when I was 19, but never stopped hunting till 22. My dad and I were hunting with a bunch of people we didn’t hunt with before when I was 22. That was a mistake.

      One of the guys we were hunting with apparently closed his bar down about 3 hours before we headed out into the woods. He, my dad, and 2 others were driving towards the drunk guy’s brother in law in a tree stand. I was on the other side of the land were hunting on in my tree stand. My dad got out of the woods during the drive first and bent over to set his rifle down to help the guy out of the tree stand when he was shot in the neck by the apparently still drunk MF he was driving with. The .308 round hit him in the neck and came out the middle of his back. It missed the jugular and spine by fractions of a inch.

      My dad was head to toe safety orange and didn’t have a round chambered in his rifle while driving through the woods. The guy who shot him shot at a “Deer” while he was driving. First off that is a big no no and second he shot toward my dad and his own BIL.

      They quickly get my dad in a pick up and rushed him to the hospital. The ambulance reached him half way there. I found out after hearing shots and yelling. I got to the farmhouse and drove my dad’s car to the hospital. I arrived as they were getting him into the ambulance to go to a trauma center 40 mil away.

      I talked to him briefly and he told me not to do any thing to the shooter. Luckily for the shooter I saw my dad first. Long story not as long, my dad is alive, but sill has issues with musculature and pain in his back, neck, and shoulders. He also still has his bloody coat with the back holes in it.

      I went into the woods twice during hunting season after that, but they were with people I really trust.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Uffda. That sucks. I hope the shooter did some time for that? If he didn’t he should have.

        Also good on your dad for keeping you from shooting the asshole.

      • Timeloose

        No time, no loss of license. There were a lot of issues that morning. By the time he was being questioned, I was at the Hospital and the rest of the group were scattered.

        I still owe that guy a beating, but I’ll take it as credit. I’m sure he is cold and decaying right now.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Wow. Glad he made it.

      • DEG

        Wow. I’m happy your dad pulled through.

        I’m not sure I could be as forgiving as him.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    The land we hunt used to be owned by my buddy’s parents. Then the county raised taxes to a ridiculous level for lakefront property (they owned the whole 125 acre peninsula). They sold it to the state so now it is public land.

    Those consequences were completely unexpected!

    • Fatty Bolger

      Yeah, possibly a backhanded taking, but one with at least a nice sweetener if the taxes went way up due to a high property valuation.

  20. Surly Knott

    Happy St Venison’s Day to all the Minnesota Glibs!

  21. Rebel Scum

    For some reason Alaska has yet to be called.

    • UnCivilServant

      The dogsleds of ballots can’t get through. Now enough snow.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Do they even have telephones up there?

  22. Tulip

    Thanks pistoffnick. They both look great. I’ll have to try the green chili.

    • pistoffnick

      Thanks, the green chili is my favorite.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    These people never offer up anything that the president, no matter who it is, can and/or should have done.

    Trump should have given Foochy unlimited emergency powers to SCIENCE this thing into submission.

    • CPRM

      But then also “Drumpf is acting like the DickTator he is by forcing us to obey all these rulez!!!11!1!1!! Everyone knows POCs can’t afford face masks at these prices inflated by KKKapitalism!!!11!!11!”

  24. Hyperion

    Is this what we’re going to have in the camps? At least we’ll have that if so.

    • slumbrew

      Good news and bad news:

      Good news: yes, that’s what we’ll be having.

      Bad news: “beef”, “venison” and “bacon” are all euphemisms.

      • CPRM

        Are you saying we’ll be served (((kosher))) meat?

      • pistoffnick

        Tube steak. All you can swallow.

      • slumbrew

        We should be so lucky.

        It’ll mostly be long pig.

      • UnCivilServant

        Soylent Green New Deal?

      • slumbrew

        That’d be a great handle.

      • CPRM

        It seems you missed the joke. (((They))) will be the long pig served to us.

      • slumbrew

        Yes, yes I did.

      • The Other Kevin

        Part of our re-education involves being vegetarian.

  25. Not Adahn

    Ever trip and find out that you’ve wound up in a Chevy Chase movie?

    2020 has been a year for the record books. While the year isn’t quite behind us yet, it is worthwhile to reflect on the remarkable achievements that we have made as a team thus far in 2020. We overcame the odds to produce outstanding business performance, in the midst of managing the constant change and uncertainty of a global pandemic. All the while, and most importantly, we kept one another safe without recording one case of Covid transmission at any of our sites. All of this would not be possible without your hard work and dedication.

    Unfortunately, due to the circumstances, we will be unable to celebrate with our usual holiday parties and festivities. In lieu of our annual celebration, we would like to give you a gift to share with your families and to show our appreciation for your contributions and hard work during this past year!

    The gift is a donation to a food bank.

  26. Ownbestenemy

    I don’t have venison but I do have a tri-tip that was looking for a home. I am making the first one. Nice recipes and article!

    Also…AZ is leaning. So Dems need GA now and that has been the quiet steal. PA is too hard to overcome in my opinion.

    • Rebel Scum

      AZ is leaning.

      How do you figure?

    • CPRM

      PA is too hard to overcome in my opinion.

      That’s what yall said Tuesday night about Wisconsin, and I pointed out cars in Milwaukee seem to have very large trunks.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        They’re damn sure trying to steal PA using the Philly Machine.

      • Idle Hands

        All the lawyers are in pa right now though.

  27. juris imprudent

    Beans are to chili what pineapple is to pizza; you either like it and disregard the purists or you threaten violence to those who blaspheme.

    • limey

      I understood it to be Texas chili as the one that is absolutely no beans, just ground beef and chilis. Other forms of chili con carne would be all kinds of weird regional variations influenced by other cuisines, dependent on the ethnic influences therein, like whatever they do in Cincinnati with the spaghetti, and the wieners, and the bright yellow cheesestuff.

  28. Certified Public Asshat

    The Danish government will slaughter millions of mink at more than 1,000 farms, citing concerns that a mutation in the coronavirus that has infected them could possibly interfere with the effectiveness of a vaccine. https://t.co/aSdtkSF5sU— The New York Times (@nytimes) November 4, 2020

    We should be more like Europe.

    • CPRM

      The funny thing is, I’m sure many leftists will support killing the mink to stop the virus from mutating (and how exactly that mutation would affect human biology no one knows, because we aren’t mink) but killing them for their fur is terrible and shouldn’t be done, even though it promotes breeding them so they don’t go extinct. (do wild mink even exist anymore?)

    • Rebel Scum

      Are they at least going to make fur clothing out of them? Seems like a terrible waste.

      • The Other Kevin

        They’re going to make mink swim suits for the national bikini team.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Uffda. Mink farming was big in my hometown when I was growing up.

      All the kids who came from those farms stunk. They were worse than kids from pig farms.

      • Fourscore

        Weasels have a rather unpleasant odor but they were worth a buck or two for a young Fourscore.

  29. KOVIDKristen

    Definitely tryin the green chili

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      KK, are you the pug owner? If so I owe GT an apology for mixing up you two and recommending this book series to her: https://www.amazon.com/Pig-Pug-Aaron-Blabey/dp/1338112457

      Sorry about your teenage kitty. My teenage dog went to a vet neurologist ($$) and his complicated meds regimen is at best slowing his decline.

  30. Chipwooder

    I like many kinds of chili. Since my wife and my kids don’t care for authentic Texas chili (they much prefer ground beef and beans to cubed beef and no beans) I generally make a chili that’s kind of the “generic” American chili. Ground beef, pintos, onions, bell peppers (they don’t like heat either), cumin, chili powder, crushed tomatoes. Several favorites come from an old Marlboro promotional chili cookbook that my parents have. There’s also an unusual one I like that uses chunks of slab bacon and beans.

    • Ownbestenemy

      I dont get the bean/no bean argument. If it compliments it, who cares. If it takes away then it needs to be adjusted.

      Maybe its the one thing we have semi-control over in life.

      • Chipwooder

        Yeah, I’m not from Texas so I’m no purist. I like chili either way. I only draw the line at Cincinnati style – chili should not be sweet.

      • CPRM

        It’s the coffee that gets me. I’m allergic to caffeine, so that’s a no go for me. (also coffee tastes like ass, ban fight me!)

    • Rebel Scum

      Saw this early. I do not get the “flash drive” part. How/why is a ballot on a flash drive?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Well you take Fuck and then You, scan the Thats and now you know Why

      • Rebel Scum

        Earlier*

      • Viking1865

        Because carrying large boxes full of ballots was causing the Dem apparatchiks to throw their back out. Now they can just slide a flash drive in to fix the vote totals to the proper number.

      • Ownbestenemy

        IF they have the ballots to match, I am okay with whatever media is used to deliver the count….that is a big IF

      • Idle Hands

        She’s a cia agent with a nose for clandestine activity. And when I say nose let me tell you she has quite the snozz.

      • SDF-7

        It is the new millennium! Where you can sell your soul — I mean, get your ballot fraud in a nanosecond!

    • Ownbestenemy

      Lol the fucking Iraqis and Afghans hold better elections than us.

      • CPRM

        +1 Purple Thumb

      • Idle Hands

        can’t do that in this country because we’d have to find a progressive color to agree on.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Worthless is right. Tommy Norment is a swamp creature that’s content to get his corrupt sweetheart deals from William and Mary while the Democrats run rampant.

    • Idle Hands

      we have a state gop? I didn’t notice. Not a single person I saw running had a “we need to open up and fuck gov coonman’s edicts message on their website.”

    • robc

      ummm…ballots should be on paper in a box, not on a flash drive.

      Does VA not have a paper ballot that gets printed out or anything?

      • Chipwooder

        I don’t know that every area of the state does this, but in Henrico we use scantron sheets. Fill in the ovals, take it to the machine, scan it.

      • robc

        I was happy that SC actually has my preferred option. Fill in on a computer screen, it prints out results with real words so you can verify ballot, and it has a scan section for the scantron to read.

        It is easy to double check that physical ballots match scantron results. I don’t know if they do it, but every precinct should have to hand check a randomly determined race to verify exact results. And in a close race, recount would be easy.

        Heck, I would be okay with after reporting initial results, poll workers at each precinct have to sort and double check every single race, working all night. Then box up ballots and send to HQ.

      • Gadfly

        I was happy that SC actually has my preferred option. Fill in on a computer screen, it prints out results with real words so you can verify ballot, and it has a scan section for the scantron to read.

        In my area of TX they also had that method, which I also prefer. There needs to be a physical component to the ballots in case recounts are needed or something fishy happens, but having a scannable component is good to speed things up when everything is in order.

      • Rebel Scum

        I filled out a paper ballot at my polling place on election day. Yes, we have paper ballots, hence my confusion as the point and purpose of the flash drive and how ballots could “be on” one.

      • Chipwooder

        Are yours scanned?

      • Rebel Scum

        Yes. But I thought they remained stored/counted in the ballot box.

    • R C Dean

      So this was a flash drive that “people” thought had provisional ballots on it that had already been counted?

      Question: why did they think provisional ballots had already been counted when they haven’t finished counting the regular ballots? Provisional ballots are ordinarily counted only after the regular ballots, and only if the race is close enough that they might be dispositive. So why would anyone think this drive had provisional ballots on it when I doubt any had actually been counter? It would be interesting to know if any provisional ballots had been counted when the drive was discovered.

      And if provisional ballots had been counted and validated, why was somebody holding onto a flash drive that they thought had counted and validated ballots on it?

      Has anybody actually validated what’s on that flash drive?

      Is it routine to store voting data on flash drives, and to hand carry that data to the counting center to upload it?

      Why would I be totally unsurprised to learn that the flash drive has now been misplaced, darn it, so it can’t be examined?

      • Ownbestenemy

        COUNT….EVERY…..VOTE. That was the Dem mantra on the DoE once they saw the way things were going.

    • pistoffnick

      Fill a large bucket with fresh cow’s milk.
      Blend 1 ounce each of parsley, ginger, and caraway seeds with 8 ounces of sap from a mature maple.
      Add barley and yeast.
      Next take 12 large earthworms baked on a shovel, the gizzard of a red squirrel, 4oz. of strained mule tail sweat, 100 finely crushed black flies, a pinch of the dirt surrounding a buck rub, and the dried and powdered left testicle of a fully grown moose……. chill and serve.

    • Chipwooder

      And that’s exactly why they’ve been dragging things out there. If they managed to win AZ, they didn’t need GA. Now that they do, the shenanigans will go to 11 in Fulton County.

      • Idle Hands

        the Ga thing mystifies me they have the gov mansion and the AG how is this taking so long?

      • robc

        They have two senate races to win in runoffs?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Local elections officials

        Don’t forget, Atlanta is the place where they locked a poll watcher in a closet while they rolled in a couple of bus loads of voters after the polls closed.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Yeah everyone was focused on PA and AZ while GA has been quietly finding 30K here, 40K there…oh look…a thumb drive showed up in the mail!

      • Chipwooder

        Must have been hiding in the same place as that Virginia flash drive!

    • Hyperion

      They’re digging through every dumpster in GA to find enough ballots to give Biden the lead.

      In my entire life, I have never seen anything like this where they just stop counting votes in an election, in which Trump was ahead in WI, MI, GA, and NC, looked like they were about to declare and BOOM, voting stops and sometime in the middle of the night they find enough ballots to give MI and WI to Biden.

      I’ve never said there was election fraud in an election before, but in this case, I think it might be true. And if it is true and nothing happens, what’s the use to even vote if democrat’s can just reverse the vote any time they find themselves losing?

  31. robc

    The amount of ballots that get misplaced/found at convenient moments would be troubling if it was actually true and not fraud.

    It should be cause to justify firing of every official involved. This is literally one of the easiest things in the world to organize.

    • wdalasio

      Fired hell, start administering public floggings for these officials. You could finance the elections with the pay-per-view alone.

  32. Rebel Scum

    Silver lining?

    #3 could be fun. Ben Shapiro is of the opinion of #8.

    • robc

      I said #8 yesterday. And the GOP will lose the Senate in 2002 if Trump wins.

      • robc

        2022 also.

      • Chipwooder

        Eh, maybe. Lot of GOP seats coming up in 2022 but if I’m not mistaken most of them are pretty safe. Only a few of them figure to be competitive.

      • Gadfly

        This is true, but only a few of them need to be competitive to give the advantage to the Dems, since the margin for the Senate is looking like it’s going to be 52R-48D/I.

    • Idle Hands

      #1 somebody was asleep at the wheel for the Obama years.

    • LJW

      Might thoughts exactly. This election was about Trump’s personality not his policies. Two years of the batshit crazy things Dems are gonna do plus the lack of a polarizing Trump is going to push people to the Republicans.

      • LJW

        My thoughts* stupid phone

      • CPRM

        should be my ‘My Thots’, right Q?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      #3 ain’t going to happen. The FBI/DOJ have been trying to wait Trump out thru the election in the hopes they could bury everything. There’s no way they wouldn’t stonewall any attempts to uncover any of the shenanigans.

  33. Gustave Lytton

    Hey, where are all those disparate impact proponents when it comes to late/missing/overlooked ballots that always put the D over?

    • juris imprudent

      So here’s a thought, because the Repubs down ballot did much better than Trump. Would you really expect that if the Dems were tampering with lots of ballots?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Hes attributing too much nuance by half to the voting public.

      • UnCivilServant

        House races are geographically limited, so they wouldn’t have the fraudulent ballots being churned out in the strongholds impacting the outcomes of a lot of them.

      • CPRM

        Or, as for now, the ‘extra’ ballots only focus on the Presidential election, and the real vote should align more with the down ballot voting. Speculation can work both ways…and National Review is trash.

      • juris imprudent

        I look at it like this – there is a lot of strength down the Republican ranks, and a lot of weakness up top. The Dems run just the opposite.

        For all the focus ya’ll have on Trump, you’re missing that the great Blue Wave wasn’t even a ripple. If I were going to pull the shenanigans with voting, I wouldn’t do it just to benefit the presidential vote, I’d want to make sure I was getting my money’s worth across the board.

      • CPRM

        But, they are the one’s who believe in having a strongman at the top. It is the reality of communism, socialism and fascism, that it is top down control. So, of course that is where they will focus. Obama had an opposition party in control of congress after 2012, he didn’t give a fuck. He had a pen and a phone.

      • juris imprudent

        And aside from ACA what great legacy are we burdened with from his administration – his fucking pen and phone?

        What we are most burdened by is the spineless fucks elected to Congress that won’t do the job the Constitution demands they do. They either blindly support the President (when of their party) or blindly oppose him. That isn’t how it is supposed to work. We don’t ever get that fixed, fuck all else.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        -Sotomayor and Kagan
        -Who knows how many federal judges that worship at the altar of the state
        -Expansion of regulations
        -Expansion of the Deep State

        Also, lest we forget, aiding an attempted coup against the incoming president that hamstrung Trump during his first term with Russiagate. That had a pretty fucking big legacy impact.

      • CPRM

        Dreamers…and that’s it can think off the top of my drunk head, but I’ll let you sort it out via WaPo.

      • MikeS

        -Using the regulatory process to hamper the coal industry and shut down new oil pipelines

      • Ownbestenemy

        Our new Congress can keep the -gate going with Palestine-gate as word is Joe was already engaging in governance with Palestinian authorities (anonymous reporting so take that for what it is) even before tallies were being counted.

        Not that it matters. Just was interesting to read and see no complaints of foreign interference.

      • juris imprudent

        Justices/judges are not a product of his pen and phone. They were affirmed by the Senate, so nothing shifty – even if they are shitty. Kagan is less of a police boot licker than Garland would’ve been or Alito is, so IMO not entirely bad (which is as good as it gets, even Thomas has some horrible takes).

        Fuck off on the Deep State shit. It is the bureaucracy, and yes, it has a mind of it’s own but you’ve got to go full retard paranoid to think it serves any partisan objective above it’s own preservation.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        what great legacy are we burdened with from his administration – his fucking pen and phone?

        A lot of regulatory burden relating to inclusion and diversity in schools and in companies that interact with fedgov

      • juris imprudent

        And hasn’t that bullshit been culled from the govt by Trump’s pen & phone?

        Obama may have codified within the govt, you’ve got to remember, it came from outside the govt to begin with.

      • Not Adahn

        Fuck off on the Deep State shit. It is the bureaucracy, and yes, it has a mind of it’s own but you’ve got to go full retard paranoid to think it serves any partisan objective above it’s own preservation.

        Yeah…no.

        It IS a bureaucracy which means it is as least somewhat self-selecting. Partisan tendencies of the human beings who make it up will be reinforced and amplified. It will absolutely serve partisan objectives, and whether or not they are “above” its “preservation” are irrelevant.

      • R C Dean

        you’ve got to go full retard paranoid to think it serves any partisan objective above it’s own preservation

        Not so sure about that, given the shenanigans in the intel community and FBI/DOJ around the Russia hoax. Other than for partisan/ideological purposes, why would they stick their necks out like that? It puts the bureaucracy, and individual bureaucrats, at some risk if it goes bad (as it did).

        There is also considerable evidence that individual apparatchiks were, in fact, motivated by partisan politics.

        But even if it is merely bureaucratic preservation, I’m not sure that means there is no Deep State. In fact, it may make it even worse. My personal theory is that our administrative agencies have slipped the leash of accountability to elected officials to implement their own agendas (which can include partisan politics) and to avoid immunize themselves from consequence (i.e. preservation). In my mind, that is the Deep State. It is profoundly un-American, even if its main purpose is bureaucratic growth/preservation, but I don’t think there can be any doubt whatsoever that there is considerable alignment with partisan politics as well.

        And hasn’t that bullshit been culled from the govt by Trump’s pen & phone?

        The agencies are ignoring Trump’s EO on critical race theory training. The #Resistance is real. See, above, re “slipped the leash”.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I agree that the down-tickets are all great news. Gums up Congress and Trump’s judiciary picks help stem the tide so to speak against BidenhertimeHarris from doing complete damage.

      • R C Dean

        Not sure what to make of that. If the Dems are going to manufacture ballots for Presidential race, why not throw in the Senate race as well?

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        How long does it take to fill in hundreds of thousands, potentially millions, of ovals for Biden on manufactured ballots? Could be a time and priority issue.

      • R C Dean

        I’m quite confident anyone planning to insert fraudulent ballots preps them in advance, so why not do both?

      • juris imprudent

        Now in a recount, that would be very interesting – just a presidential vote? What is the exact provenance of these ballots?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Which is probably why Team Trump immediately demanded a recount in MI

      • juris imprudent

        Hell, Tlaib’s district didn’t even give her an above average number of votes, in fact it had the LEAST.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I guess there could be a lot like my wife – she wanted to vote for the first time in 20 years just for Trump. She didn’t care about anything down-ticket. Multiply that a few thousand times maybe? A 10-15% drop off would be I think normal (I am just guessing here), greater than that you run into the hanging-chad territory. “Did this person mean to vote this way?”

      • juris imprudent

        14 House districts add up pretty close to the presidential vote – so where’s the monkeying?

      • Gadfly

        This was an interesting questions, so I plugged the number (from CNN) into a spreadsheet and found this: there are 30,000 more MI votes for Trump than for House Rs, and 110,000 more MI votes for Biden than for House Ds. Obviously people can split their tickets and ignore races, but it is an interesting disparity.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I was sitting here thinking, good on Ice Cube for not backing down and folding like Soon2B20Cent when pressed. Cube isn’t saying he is republican or that he even likes Trump. He is just saying the man got him what he lobbied for, as in, executed his privileged position to get it. Good on them. Not that I want billions going here or there. Then I thought, you know, I helped him (along with millions of others) become what he is today by buying his album back when I was 17ish and going to see Friday and Next Friday.

        That then got me thinking of the 90s and how glorious we had it at that time. Didn’t matter what type of music was on at the backyard party, as long as it was keeping the ladies dancing. It didn’t matter what music was playing in the back room, as long as it didn’t harsh to vibe. It didn’t matter what music was playing if the make up of your group was a mix of every race/background.

        Fuck I miss that time and glad that my teens have an eclectic desire to play whatever music they want to play. I am in a cussing mood today apparently.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Dont know why it posted here…oh well.

      • Viking1865

        If there is widespread Dem tampering, it’s the deep urban core where it’s happening. It’s Detroit and Milwaukee and Philly and Atlanta. So they can steal POTUS and Senate, but they can’t just magic up the votes in all the House districts.

        Biden got more votes from the deep urban core of Detroit than Barack Obama did. That’s absolutely absurd on it’s face. If you just pulled the ballots that were

        1. Mailed in.

        2. Belonged to people who did not vote in 2016

        I bet you thousands of them are straight up fraudulent.

        Supposedly Joe Biden added 500,000 votes to HIllary’s in MI, at the same time Trump added 400,000.

        MI and WI both did the unsolicited mailin ballot con where they sent millions of “just fill it out and sign it” ballots to everyone registered. All you’d need is for the postal worker union guy at the post office to collect the ballots returned blank and forward them to the local Party.

        In 2008 and in 2020 the Democrats both started with just over 230 House seats. Obama got 52% of the vote and carried in 21 new Reps and 8 new Senators.

        Now granted Biden is not running quite as strong in national popular vote, but if there was a widespread broad based Democrat wave he should be carrying House seats. He isn’t.

      • Chipwooder

        Bingo. The fraud is conducted in a few key Dem strongholds in major cities – IOW, not where there are competitive House races being lost.

      • R C Dean

        The fraud is conducted in a few key Dem strongholds in major cities

        Precisely as predicted here, I believe.

        I’m trying to be skeptical, to hold onto just plain old incompetence as a possible explanation. But its really, really hard not to see this as fraud.

      • juris imprudent

        So in MI – where are the extra votes? The House vote totals are pretty close to the Presidential totals. Tlaib, in the heart of Detroit, had the fewest votes cast in any district. So where are they?

      • Viking1865

        Yeah the only way to manufacture large scale fraud is to have a big huge urban precinct where you control the whole political system. You need to have someone who will take a stack of mail in ballots that are all signed with the exact same handwriting and feed them into the scanner like a good soldier. Someone who will take ballots delivered in the dead of night by random people and feed them in like a good soldier.

        You can’t just magically add 30,000 votes in an exurban district. But in Detroit you can have 30,000 voters who are some combination of dead, moved away, have multiple addresses in the system thus generating multiple ballots, or don’t actually vote but can vote if the good stewards of the people fill out a mail in for them.

        If you did some kind of magic trick and handed the Republicans control of Detroit government, they’d be able to use the Detroit rolls to manufacture enough votes to win MI every cycle.

      • juris imprudent

        And yet in Detroit, Tlaib’s district had the fewest total votes cast of all the House districts. You could dump 100K fakes in there and bring it up to the average – but they aren’t there.

      • R C Dean

        That is an interesting question, indeed. What was the turnout in her district? What was the turnout in adjacent districts? How do they compare to prior elections?

        If there is a disparity, what are the possible explanations for it?

      • wdalasio

        Without a lot more localized data, it’s really hard to tell. At the very least, the divergence should raise eyebrows. I just don’t see a lot of “boo Trump/yay Republicans” sentiment out there. But, you’d expect patterns. House numbers don’t tell you much, since they’re local and probably highly correlated with the incumbent. Senate races would probably be the place to look. Where are all these split votes coming from? Do they correlate with local election officials?

        It’s something a good investigative journalist would look into. If we had any.

    • CPRM

      It’s just amazing. It seems like ballots ferment, but instead of turning into alcohol they turn into D votes.

  34. gbob

    Some fat bitch clutching a small dog was berating a cashier at the coffee shop because the espresso machine broke yesterday, and still wasn’t fixed. Normally I would step in and use the power of being an asshole to redirect her hostility, but then I realized….it’s their world now. Planet of the Karens. The army of yoga pants wearing, daytime TV watching, harpies have claimed the field of battle.

    As such, I think it may be time to start working on changing my gender on all forms of ID. I have also decided I am no longer holding doors open or giving up my seat to any white woman. They can now open their own jars, dispose of their own spidrrs, and deal with wildlife without me. I too will now ask to speak to peoples manager. I shall demand my rights as a middle class white woman.

    I won’t be one of those cool, but mythical, libertarian woman, either. Nope. They won. By their own rules, they must accept me.

    Sigh.

    All right. Its out my system. I can now go back to not caring what asshole is in charge. Watching it burn for a few years might be its own fun. Not going to waste time rearranging the chairs on the Titanic when I can be sitting in one and enjoying a drink as the boat goes down. Like I’ve been doing for 50 years.

    • Sean

      Was she wearing a mask?

  35. TARDis

    I, for one, am just relieved the dumbest man in congress was reelected. And by a nearly 4 to 1 ratio too.

    Hi everybody!

    *waves*

    • CPRM

      the dumbest man in congress was reelected.

      You really gotta narrow that down, because as all voters, I think every congressman is stupid and should be replaced, except for the one I voted for that is currently in office, he’s The Best!

      • Gustave Lytton

        You live in Massey’s district now? Congrats on the move!

    • blighted_non_millenial

      Are you the one who tipped over Guam?

      • TARDis

        You callin’ me fat?

        Well, I am sort of pudgy.

  36. DEG

    Both of these recipes look good. I like that they have no beans.

  37. TARDis

    The recipes look tasty, but I prefer my chili with 4 pounds of tender chuck roast and 1 can of beans, except when using as a topping for hot dogs.

  38. Pine_Tree

    So, game-theory-ish: GA, NV, PA, and NC selection staff is all working hard to get their desired outcome.

    But none of them want to be the FIRST one to say they’re officially calling their state for Biden.

    Whoever’s first gets a ton of scrutiny. Everybody else can let it be Trump in a squeaker, and radically decrease the amount of crap heading their way.

    So GA’s like “yeah, we’re at 100%, but we’re still counting, and Trump’s ahead, and we’ll announce, and we’re still counting….” while thinking “HURRY UP PHILLY!”.

    • Ownbestenemy

      I can see that. PA doesn’t want to go first at all though. One, its a machine of fraud there and the state’s AG guaranteed a lawsuit with his Halloween tweet of pure impartiality and claims Trump lost already.

      • R C Dean

        I read the AG’s statement as a boast that there is no way the Dem machine would let Trump win. The reference to “when all the votes are counted” was the tell. They were primed and ready to dump as many manufactured ballots as necessary.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Any judge worth their salt would recognize that…but those aren’t always what we get. We will probably get a judge that weighs the social implications of a Trump win against the justice of fair elections.

      • juris imprudent

        I hope we get the same kind of data from PA that the website from MI provides.

      • Ownbestenemy

        MI did it right. Here is the site – these are unofficial, but consider us the only source (which should be, but we know it isn’t for the news desks) for MI.

      • CPRM

        impartiality and claims Trump lost already.

        Was that wrong? Was he not supposed to do that? What is cognitive dissonance and do I suffer from it? Is there a medication for it? Is it covered by my insurance? Why do I need to pay for insurance? The government should do that…

      • Hyperion

        Well the ruling class locked the deplorables in their house and they still got out and went to vote for Trump. If they won’t obey, what else are we supposed to do?

        Everyone forgot already about that dipshit Olbermann getting on the TV and saying that voters have to have acceptable candidates chosen for them before they can choose one? Democracy, that’s now it’s supposed to work.

    • R C Dean

      GA’s like “yeah, we’re at 100%, but we’re still counting

      Yeah, WTF is that? GA was at 100% on Wednesday, with a healthy Trump lead. Counting what, exactly?

      • Pine_Tree

        Look, these last 2 days have been like the prettiest weather we’ve had down here for a long time. Cold-ish morning, but cool, sunny days. I could totally understand it if the supervisors let their folks knock off early to enjoy it with their families.

      • CPRM

        Counting what, exactly?

        The votes for Biden that are Just Now coming. Don’t want to disenfranchise anyone.

    • Idle Hands

      NC he has totally sewn up they can’t manufacture a win there they are just delaying because they can legally at this point.

      • R C Dean

        *van pulls up to NC polling center, dollies of newly “discovered” votes are rolled in*

      • Ownbestenemy

        Too 2016, just pass them the thumb-drive or hard drive that has those.

      • Idle Hands

        They have 100,000 ballots out their still that they are waiting to bring in for 10 days but they don’t know if people are even going to cast them that’s just how many they have left that they mailed out. Trumps up by 76,000 can’t cheat at that level. without raising a ton of suspicion.

    • Hyperion

      They have to know that if they cheat, there’s going to be trouble because half the county will consider the election to be invalid.

      The country is so divided now, I don’t know how things ever go back to people just mostly getting along. One half is always going to feel fucked over. Not a good recipe for a prosperous and stable nation.

      I say we stop electing presidents and just let every district to their onw thing. NYC and upstate NY just go their separate ways. Rural Washington state and Seattle, got their own separate ways. Same all over the country.

  39. Rebel Scum

    And why are they divulging this information?

    Pennsylvania Democratic officials are privately telling Biden campaign officials that they believe final margin of victory for Biden in Pennsylvania will be 100K-200K votes when the counting is finally done

    • Ownbestenemy

      After-action reporting for when Biden magically over came almost 1million vote deficit 3 days later…

      • juris imprudent

        And on the 3rd day, he rose again…

        [and it was half a million votes]

      • Ownbestenemy

        My bad, I think it was 800k when I went to bed that night or I was just drunk with our resident zoomers. Assume the later.

      • Hyperion

        It’s about 110K. That’s just one of those little flash drives right there. Easy peasy.

    • The Hyperbole

      Meh, Democratic party officials, why wouldn’t they share intel with the national party?

  40. tarran

    Oh my god!

    The mandatory information governance course I am taking right now just quizzed me on the difference between electronic and physical records. 🙄

  41. Ownbestenemy

    The media absolutely wanted this situation too – 3, 4, 5 day election? Clicks!

    • The Other Kevin

      Can’t find the clip, but I’m reminded of the scene in Johnny Dangerously where he’s bribing the cleaning lady (again) and she says “Boy am I havin’ a good year!”

    • Hyperion

      I think they eventually call it for Biden. But the country will be broken over this shit, half the country will not accept the results of a national election ever again.

      Look, give the democrats credit for trying to solve this issue. They want to abolish the electoral college, then there will no longer be a need to vote in a presidential election and we can just let the dems pick each winner a few months in advance. Easy peasy.

      • Rebel Scum

        This election is already illegitimate as far as I am concerned.

      • Ownbestenemy

        And that is where a lot of people stand. So 4 years ago you had the other side claim illegitimacy and now you have the other half doing the same. Never bodes well.

      • Hyperion

        The problem is, last time there was no suspicion of electoral fraud because they called it on election night instead of just stopping counting the votes and then they tried a coup, for 4 fucking years.

        The democrats deserve some serious blowback on this issue. Why would someone expect that the party who wants no voting security or rules, are the ones who would cheat? They were prepared this time. And they’ll probably pull it off. But they’re poisoning the well and sewing the seeds of discord to be turned up to 11. Better to rule in hell I suppose.

      • Viking1865

        I fully accept states, even blue states, that count quickly and transparently in a standard American election format which is Election Day, with some absentee ballots.

        WI and MI both sent out unsolicited mailin ballots this year. They sent out literally millions of “just fill it out and sign it” ballots into the wild.

        2016 Clinton 2020 Biden

        MI 2,268,000 2,788,000

        PA 2,926,000 3,137,000

        WI 1,382,000 1,630,000

        There is not universe where the delta there is legit. Joe Biden has more votes than 2012 Obama in those three states. That’s simply absurd on it’s face.

        Find me the half million live human beings in Michigan who didn’t vote in 2016 but voted for Joe fucking Biden in 2020. You can have them ride in on unicorns and dragons.

      • Hyperion

        Maybe mail in ballots. We’ve never tried this great experiment before.

        We should be able to figure this out and get a straight answer, but because of the deep state and how dishonest our media is, we’ll probably never know exactly what happened, and nothing else will happen.

      • The Hyperbole

        Are the 350,000 new Trump voters also imaginary?

      • Viking1865

        No those are the people who have been coming to his fucking rallies for months.

        Donald Trump can do 5 rallies a day with 30,000 screaming people at each one, and Biden can’t get 2,000 people to show up.

  42. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Stupid shit Facederp people say:

    “I don’t believe there is any organized voter fraud in this country.”

    Keep telling yourself that honey.

    • Hyperion

      Yeah and illegals cannot vote and everyone knows it. But I am 100% certain you can walk into any voting place in MD on election day and vote no matter who you are or where you come from, they will let you vote without a question. But it never happens, because reasons. Do illegal aliens vote in MD? Fact Check: FALSE. Well, that proves it so I guess I’m wrong.

    • CPRM

      “It depends what the definition of is believe is.”

    • Hyperion

      A lot of those same people also believe in UFOs, Bigfoot, and that they have actual real fairys in their garden, the ones like in the fictional stories from times before.

      I remember once when a lady on a website was taking pictures of these Mayflies and saying that they’re her garden fairies that come to visit her. An elementary grade school teacher. Someone, actually several people told her what they were and she got furious. These are the people teaching our children. Keeping kids away from schools is the best thing ever happened in this country in a long time. Now stop paying ‘teachers’ to not do anything. Make them get real jobs.

  43. TARDis

    I took my wife’s SUV to the car wash because I had a gift card to spend. ABC cunt faces were blathering all kinds of anti-Trump/pro-Biden shit. I had to wait outside because my blood pressure was rising. All I could think about is how much I want CJ Roberts to have a massive paralyzing stroke, and live for decades sitting in a wheel chair everyday waiting for someone to change his shit filled diapers.

    • Hyperion

      Most people re dumber than fuck about politics. No matter how smart they are in every other way. Politics are mostly not fun and a serious dry topic. People don’t like that stuff. They like pretending like it’s s team sport of that they’re right thinking people because they get on their social media and agree with all the other cool kids. It makes them feel part of the crowed. They have no idea what the issues are about, but if you ask them, you’ll likely get ‘racist! women’s healthcare getting taken away!’. But you won’t get anything of substance and if you try to talk about real issues, they’ll immediately just lose interest because you’re probably just a dumb redneck.