Good morning my Glibs and Gliberinas! And what an absolutely beautiful morning it always is!
PA rules late PA ballots should not be counted.
Trump claims voting machines deleted 2.7 million votes for him.
AZ Secretary of State referred to Trump’s base as “Neo-Nazis” in 2017.
Officials in Georgia have not been able to show evidence of the alleged pipe burst in Atlanta.
What an odd endorsement of Trump.
Corporate media’s lack of self awareness.
Trump Admin strikes deal to make COVID-19 vaccine free at all major pharmacies.
Manhattan’s apartment vacancies hit highest in over a decade.
That’s all I got for today. I’ll leave you with a song and move along with my day.
Morning, Banjos
So, as has been mentioned by others, what happens in PA in the districts where they mixed the past-due ballots in with the on time ballots? Throw them all out due to spoilage? Count them all? Burn Philadelphia to the ground?
The last one would be a good start. What a shithole.
So you move we burn Philadelphia to the ground?
You did something there, and I saw it.
I vote we throw the officials responsible into a woodchipper with the fake ballots.
I can see arguments for both. Throwing them out could send a message to SoS/ Lt Guvs tempted to overstep theirb statutory authority, and legitimate voters are not disinfranchized by an illegitimate process. But then a lot of legitimate votes are just gone. No happy answer.
In this case I think the number of affected ballots is small though.
I can see using the precedent to get otherwise good ballots discarded as a strategic move.
Execution of the malfeasors is the only deterrant.
Agreed. Over punishment is as bad as under punishment. Executions of those responsible sends a strong message.
I was thinking the exact same thing about the strategic use. You have to punish the individuals responsible, not through out good ballots cast by completely innocent voters.
Here’s the thing I’m thinking though. If we are going to do this democracy thing, and “everyone has a right to vote” there is a corresponding right to have your vote not be diluted by illegitimate votes. There right to vote also includes a right to have a legitimate election. In this case we are in a situation where no matter what happens some innocent voters are going to be disenfranchized
Yeah, I think that’s right, so you have to go with a least bad option. I’d guess most people would prefer their ballot be fractionally diluted due to a nefarious voter over having their ballot tossed entirely due to strategically motivated election official.
If you don’t want people to ignore rules like this in the future, I think you’ve really only got two options:
1) Throw out all the ballots due to spoilage
2) Imprison all of the election officials who ignored the ruling for no less then 2 years, and forbid them from working in any election related position going forward
I hope they throw them all out. If there are no repercussions for actions like this, than the actions will continue. The rest of the country shouldn’t have to put everything on hold because some ass hats decided to play fast and loose with the election in an area. You want your votes to count? Don’t get caught doing stupid shady unequal shit.
Granted, this definitely would open the door to people sabotaging elections with the intentions of having their districts votes discounted, but that’s not the battle we’re fighting right now.
It don’t much matter what individual people do, in this context. It’s the wholesale embrace of banana republic level fraud heartily embraced and practiced by the dems. They have been plotting this since ’16 at least, and before that they tried to lay landmines to facilitate illegally removing Trump from office. It’s almost like, once they knew the media wouldn’t call them on anything ever again, they went full evil. The punishment needs to address that. A party as openly corrupt should be beaten in to submission.
‘It’s almost like, once they knew the media wouldn’t call them on anything ever again, they went full evil.’
That’s what happens when multinational corporations, media conglomerates, and government become so inbred that they make the Hapsburgs look genetically diverse, I guess. Once a philosophy is generally excepted as the greater good, the details of achieving it don’t matter.
I think throwing them all out causes future problems. That creates a method to cheat in the future. Cheat in a precinct your opponent is going to win large, get caught, and get all his votes thrown out.
Your damned if you do damned if you don’t. As mentioned earlier you pick you poison and execute those that did this to send a message.
In PA (where there is no same-day registration), there should be one simple test applied: were there more ballots received and counted than registered voters? If yes, 100% of that county’s votes are discarded, and the voters of the county can take out their wrath on the local officials. If no, then unless you have hard evidence of something else grossly amiss, let it go.
Have there been any counties in PA with more votes than voters?
That is at least one allegation floating around – 100s of thousands of votes in Philly and Pittsburgh. Unless you had near zero turnout on election day, you’re going to run up against the limit.
Going by what the PA state election website says, as of 11/02/20, last day to register, there were (roughly) 1,129,000 registered voters in Philly and 942,000 in Allegheny. As of the last vote tally updated, which I believe was some time yesterday though it might have been Wednesday, there have been 709,000 ballots cast in Philly and 711,000 in Allegheny.
And in 2016 the numbers were ~700K and ~645K (votes) respectively. And Trump did better in Philly this year than that year. That’s a fair bit of growth in Pitt – but not immediately obvious and damning.
*These above vote totals are only for the two major party candidates, so the total vote numbers are higher, but not 200,000-300,000 higher.
There is a 3rd way. Just as many states have run-off elections when it is under the necessary limits, have one here. Presidential runoff. Or, if you like, call it a do-over. We are already in the area of having no idea of what the correct number of legal votes are, but we don’t want to disenfranchise anyone. So, no new registration, just a seriously watched new election.
I think Trump’s legal team is trying to get the PA electoral votes to not be certified and/or get ALL of the
latetotes not fraudulent mail-in ballots thrown out.‘As a result, rent prices have plunged in parts of New York City, including Manhattan, where the median price was $3,100 in October. Rent for a one-bedroom apartment was $3,064, significantly cheaper than a year ago when they went for $3,595.’
Wow, sometimes I forget just how crazy expensive it is there.
….but, but…restaurants! (Which you cannot go to).
What about the culture?
Less just say that at when fully employed, my after tax income could usually cover that rent…and nothing else. Closed restaurants wouldn’t factor in cuz I wouldn’t be able to eat, much less have electricity or running water.
*does some quick math*
Huh, almost that rent at the low end…screw that.
We pay 3k, but we have a three bedroom house in a really good area. REALLY good area.
I pay $650/mo.
Sure it’s a shoebox two bedroom house, but it’s my shoebox.
This is more my style.
325 per room, helluva deal.
I’m kind of a hoodrat so cheap and dangerous is a more comfortable setting for me. 😉
Well then, this one’s for you!
Ha!
Those chucklefucks fleeing Manhattan island are causing the rents to go up here in the outer boroughs. $1000 – $1200 1 bedroom places are now listed at $1500 – $1700.
I’d say democracy delegitimises itself. But yeah, a system where the politicians refuse to give elections any semblance of protection from fraud, is going to rapidly loose legitimacy.
I was thinking about the election process last night. You can either try to control the process as you take the votes ( ID, make sure voter rolls are accurate etc.) Or you can try to sort it out after the fact. Our leaders have decided they are okay with sorting it out after the fact. Which is what we’re going through now. I think they want it this way because they are all trying to cheat.
Surprisingly rational, from an unexpected source
The more a party misperceives its mandate, the more pronounced a backlash it is likely to receive. Unfortunately, the Democrats already seem poised to badly misread the 2020 election, and it will likely come back to haunt them — sooner rather than later.
In a post-election news conference, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., declared that voters gave Democrats a “tremendous mandate … a bigger mandate than John F. Kennedy when I was in school, and a bigger mandate than others.”
A centerpiece of these narratives is the claim that President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris won more votes than any other ticket in U.S. history. So far, more than 77.7 million votes had been counted for the Democratic ticket, with some final votes left to count. This does, indeed, surpass the previous record, set by Sen. Barack Obama in 2008, of 69.5 million votes.
However, President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence also beat Obama’s record by a healthy margin this cycle, pulling in 72.4 million votes to date, with their numbers also expected to climb. The electoral results do not show that the public is united behind Biden and Harris. Quite the contrary — they show that voters are deeply divided.
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The record in terms of sheer number of votes that the Democratic presidential ticket got is a product of population growth. When we control for the size of the electorate, it is clear that the incoming administration does not have an unprecedented mandate.
Indeed, even as Democrats won the White House, they are trending to remain the minority in the Senate. Among other things, this will severely constrain their ability to rebalance the judiciary — meaning federal courts (not to mention the Supreme Court) will likely remain skewed to the right for the foreseeable future.
Democrats have also lost seats in the House, a situation that is only likely to worsen in the next midterm elections. When a party takes power, it loses about 35 seats on average in its inaugural midterms, which could flip the House to the GOP in 2022.
To be honest, I’m not sure why a 50 -50 split means we are “deeply” divided, but of course, I don’t collectivise people based on the ideas of a small fringe. The Democrats are poised to do a tremendous amount of damage based on their completely imaginary “mandate”.
And, again, there is a lot less division regarding what the problems might be than how to deal with them.
If, as is likely, the GOP retains the Senate, the next two years will be nonstop propoganda about how evil the Senate is and how it is inhibiting what has been mandated.
Abolish the Senate! Or at least make them powerless, for the good of the Republic. Hail Caesar!
“So far, more than 77.7 million votes had been counted for the Democratic ticket, with some final votes left to count. This does, indeed, surpass the previous record, set by Sen. Barack Obama in 2008, of 69.5 million votes.”
Why do I find this incredibly hard to believe?
What, you don’t believe in population growth? That’s all it is. Trump surpassed Obama’s number too.
Hillary didn’t even beat the 2008 number though.
Further evidence of what a tremendously terrible candidate Hillary was.
Look, Trump Barely won last time, is it that surprising that he barely lost this time?
First Woman President vs. Guy who calls a lid at 10 AM?
I can believe that Biden received more votes than Obama in 2008 due to population growth. It’s just that I have a hard time believing it’s 8+ million more votes.
All things considered, yes. Biden is barely alive. Trump is on fire and had major success at every turn. The dems have openly embraced Stalinist governing. The media is all in on propagandizing. All the benchmarks of other elections point to a slam dunk for trump. The major places Biden has carried are all crooked assed dem strongholds. There’s literally nothing reasonable to support the idea that Biden won and mountains to suggest a rigged election. Occam’s razor, anyone?
Everyone on both sides knows Biden is a nonentity and the election was about Trump, but let’s not pretend that goes only one way.
There’s a plausible explanation based on a virulent anti-Trump vote. It will take some ‘splainin’ on how that showed up mainly in a few swing states.
And, of course, I’m still waiting for an explanation for the sudden, coordinated stoppage of counting across 5 Dem-run upper midwest swing states, followed by a discontinuity in the ratio of ballots for each candidate.
Dean nailed it. Lots of suspicious information, but there are plausible, if highly unlikely, explanations.
The coordinated stoppage is the closest to inexcusable that I’ve seen. I’m guessing that statistical analysis that’s circulating will be explained away as reporting errors. I’m also guessing that the voting software company controversy will fizzle.
Aw c’mon RC, that’s just crazy talk. Trust them.
Population growth, plus people motivated to turn out due to two shite options, but only perceiving one shite option.
The increase is significantly higher than population growth can explain
Remember that voter participation had been down-trending. ’08 was a bump in that, and ’12 and ’16 returned to the downtrend. This is another bump.
Yeah, I saw a piece this AM that flat-out said that Trump’s economy was better.
In Bloomberg.
It’s not a lack of self awareness. It’s a demand that you submit to leftist supremacy.
During a testy Sept. 23 Senate hearing, Paul repeatedly questioned Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert
STOP SAYING THAT!
If he’s really our best, we’re well and truly fucked.
He’s an expert who is also an infectious disease. It checks out.
Appeals to authority is the left’s #1 go to. It’s unamerican, disgusting and annoying as hell.
You will respect our authority if we have to beat you half to death to gain it.
I’d like to see SCOTUS rule that the voting process in PA (and maybe a few more states) was so messed up that their electoral college votes do not count in this election. That would give neither candidate a majority and it gets kicked to the house of representatives to vote on it (12th amendment). In this case each state gets one vote regardless of the number of representatives and there are 26 (R) states. Assuming they do vote my party Trump would probably get the nod.
More than just the fact that this would keep socialism at bay for (hopefully) four more years, the resulting prog tears would be a deluge.
It only goes to the House if it’s a tie – I biffed that one earlier this week. Even if a state isn’t counted at all, majority of the electoral votes wins.
0% chance of this happening anyway.
Honestly, I can live with a Biden admin, on the basis that the mid-term election is pretty likely to be a large Republican victory (historical results not guaranteeing future performance and all) in Congress. On the other hand, Trump winning, even by the narrowest of margins almost certainly creates a fully Democratic Congress. And Trump has not exactly showed himself immune to their supplications (*cough* stimulus *cough*).
Even 538 is early projecting Republicans to take the house in the next one.
On the presumption of a Biden win. I’d be shocked if that were taking account of a Trump re-election.
Yes. Though there is reapportionment happening this next year (?) and that is going to shift seats away from NY, maybe CA, and midwest towards the south.
That is going to be hard to predict until we get to see the new districts.
Obama claiming that Trump is trying to delegitimize the incoming president has to go down in history as the hypocritical statement from a former president in all times. Fucking guy belongs in prison for what he did in the ’16 election.
If the Repubs are even 1/4 as obstructionist as the Dems were in the last 4 years, I’d be happy. But I think we all know what the Repubs are going to do as soon as Don is out of power.
We have to do something!!! If not we Will lose!!
Remember that McConnell becomes the Defacto leader.
Just like Moe was the leader of The Three Stooges.
Yup, they will take the high road…to hell.
Republicans declare victory by arriving at the gates of hell one day later than Democrats.
The meek shall inherit…whatever scraps the bold leaves behind for them!
Now do Gore in 2000.
Or Obama in 2016
Now, that’s the kinda music I’m talkin’ about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGJTaP6anOU
Thanks Banjos, for remembering that some kids are older than others
Good morning, Banjos!
And a good morning to the rest of you swell people.
Excellent article on the rightness of Rand. I have been hearing the same theories on memory T cells from a variety of actual experts. Fauci and his flunkies need to pay for their stupidity.
Very telling how freaked out the lefties are about competing platforms. Fuck every last one of them. Freedom is messy and I dig it!
Fourscore will love your musical selection today!
Have a fantastic Friday, my friends!
(very alliterative!)
But what could an ophthalmologist know about T cells anyway? /sarc
Fauci sounds relatively much better than this Osterholm guy.
Or ezikiel “I’m gonna lock your ass down for two years”
Damning by faint praise.
We obviously have an overabundance of authoritarian wannabes in public health.
Public health is the career for doctors who felt they wouldn’t be controlling enough lives in ordinary practice.
Like Health and Safety, it begins with good intentions, but attracts authoritarians who don’t understand the impact of their decrees on the little people.
Adam Smith says
‘The man of system, on the contrary, is apt to be very wise in his own conceit; and is often so enamoured with the supposed beauty of his own ideal plan of government, that he cannot suffer the smallest deviation from any part of it. He goes on to establish it completely and in all its parts, without any regard either to the great interests, or to the strong prejudices which may oppose it.
He seems to imagine that he can arrange the different members of a great society with as much ease as the hand arranges the different pieces upon a chess-board. He does not consider that the pieces upon the chess-board have no other principle of motion besides that which the hand impresses upon them; but that, in the great chess-board of human society, every single piece has a principle of motion of its own, altogether different from that which the legislature might choose to impress upon it.’
Public health, being part of government, is guaranteed to be staffed with authoritarian wannabees.
“It is the classic fallacy of our time that a moron run through a university and decorated with a Ph.D. will thereby cease to be a moron.” – HL Mencken
Osterholm is another neo-Malthusian, Chicken Little, authoritarian fuck.
But I hear he’s nice to puppies.
“I have been hearing the same theories on memory T cells from a variety of actual experts.”
That stuff has been known for DECADES.
Redfield and Fauci just ignore the known science because they like the attention and the whiff of authority.
You can tell they are frauds because they claimed the spread slowed because people were listening to them and then when the number of casess spiked (because of the growth in the number of tests) they say it’s because people weren’t listening to them.
The fact that we have transitioned from the 2019-2020 cold&flu season to the 2020-2021 cold&flu season – with new strains, etc. – is never ever mentioned.
Today’s Talking Point:
The 2020 election was the bestest, most honestest, most secure and reliable election in the history of elections.
If you doubt that, you’re a Nazi.
Irrespective of fraud allegations, I find it impossible that this years election with unprecedented mail in ballots could have been the most secure ever. Secure enough some may claim, but the most secure ever is ridiculous. Not possible.
Yeah, that doesn’t make sense at all.
The narrative isn’t intended to make sense, it is to give the duck-speakers their talking points.
10 doubleplus goodness points for “duck speakers”.
Trump did a better job at keeping the elections secure from Russian interference than Obama.
Post that and see your Facebook friends heads explode.
So you noticed that too.
They’re pushing that narrative hard.
The propaganda machine goes
brrrrrrtChuuuuuuuurn.How are they defining secure? On some dimensions it probably was the most secure. On other dimensions, not so much.
Today in minor things that annoy Pie, in Romania all bottles of liquor need to have this paper strip seal to show they payed the tax and this is stuck on the bottle with some shitty glue and it is impossible to get completely off without a lot of effort (relatively off course) and it ruins the look of the bottle.
Here in the US, there’s a similar thing with bottles bought wholesale, but the label has to be destroyed when it’s empty. So you get bartenders taking empty bottles and hacking away with their bottle openers before tossing it in the trash. Very annoying.
Former/current bartender glibs, you might correct me on that statement, as I might be talking out of my ass.
That sounds very much like a state thing. I’m not aware of anything like that here in Ohio.
So make your own paper strip just a little bigger – give it an antique look and feel so it’s classy – and paste that over the government seal.
Just a little idea. No need to thank me.
That does not work I have to break the seal to open the bottle. Also even more annoying the bottle has a seal of itself which usually has a notch to help you break ti and they often put the stupid government seal over the notch and I can’t find it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h9oIAvX1_WSVHSka_SYJVHUojCdE7SHE/view?usp=drivesdk
“It was an honest mistake. I betrayed my country because I love it. How was I to know I was completely wrong about everything?”
“Trump Admin strikes deal to make COVID-19 vaccine free at all major pharmacies.”
Yes! What a great deal! It won’t cost anyone, anywhere, anything! Nice of those pharmaceutical companies to do that out of the goodness of their hearts!
At least with Trump, it’s optional. With a Dem administration it would be mandatory.
Yo, I sent SP an email.
I sent you an email with contact info through the gofundme email I got from you.
Gotcha, I’ll check now.
Nothing showing up yet. I’ll keep checking.
Huh, I don’t see anything. Worst case, I’m sure SP can get us squared when she has time today.
Sounds good.
Okay, she says she’ll send it. I’ll check again in a bit. If it isn’t showing up, I’ll check my settings, though I can’t imagine I have you blocked for any reason.
If it’s free… You are the product.
The way I see it, Biden has won the election unless the Democrats got arrogant enough to cheat in ways where the results of a hand recount were off by tens of thousands of votes in Biden’s favor in at least three swing states.
The burden of proof is on the accuser, Trump. The presumption must be that all the votes are valid unless proven otherwise. Hand waving by showing statistically unlikely but possible voting patterns won’t cut it. So, two possibilities for a win:
1) The Democrats hacked the vote counting computers, giving tens of thousands of non-existent votes to Biden and/or undercounting tens of thousands of Trump votes. In at least three swing states.
2) The Democrats stuffed tens of thousands of ballots over multiple precincts, in ways that are statistically impossible, not just very unlikely. More votes than registered voters, more votes than the number of ballots that were officially mailed out or voted in person, stuff like that. Impossible results. In at least three swing states.
If Trump wins by proving beyond a doubt (to 5+ SCOTUS judges) that such obvious epic cheating took place … riots by the left saying the election was stolen from them, with the MSM trying to provide cover for such a lie.
Stock up on popcorn (and ammo if you can get it) if you think that outcome is likely.
Do I short popcorn if I think it’s got as good a chance as Tantalus drinking that water?
There is no way that many people voted for Biden/against Trump. No way, even with easy mail in ballots.
This guy gets it.
I don’t think “no way” means what you think it means.
That sounds a lot more faith based than evidence based my friend.
Currently, that is accurate.
I’m patiently waiting to have my assertions be supported by evidence.
The presumption must be that all the votes are valid unless proven otherwise.
I don’t think that is law. Election officials are required to maintain a chain of custody, if they did not, it can be presumed those are fraudulent ballots.
The presumption of innocence means that if it can be proven that illegality occured, such as the chain of custody was broken, then the aggrieved party suing (Trump) is entitled to redress, because the presumption of innocence can’t be maintained after looking at the facts.
There is no chain of custody in the balloting almost everywhere. That’s the problem. Election workers show up with a bunch of ballots from god knows where and they get counted. Even if you could somehow examine said ballots and confirm they are all legitimate votes, what you can’t confirm is whether or not there were other ballots that got “lost” on the way to the precinct.
It’s an abysmal system… by design.
Dr. Scott Atlas, a member of President Trump’s coronavirus task force, made a similar point to Paul’s during a White House press briefing later on Sept. 23. When asked about CDC Director Robert Redfield’s testimony that 90% of the U.S. population remained vulnerable to COVID-19, Atlas said he believed Redfield misstated the facts.
“I think that Dr. Redfield misstated something … the data on the susceptible that he was talking about was his surveillance data that showed that roughly 9% of the country has antibodies,” Atlas said. “But when you look at the CDC data state by state, much of that data is old. Some of it goes back to March or April, before many of these states had the cases. That’s point number one.”
“Point number two is that the immunity to the infection is not solely determined by the percent of people who have antibodies,” Atlas continued. “If you look at the research — and there’s been about 24 papers at least on the immunity from T-cells — that’s a different type of immunity than antibodies. And without being boring, the reality is that — according to the papers from Sweden, Singapore, and elsewhere — there is cross-immunity, highly likely from other infections, and there is also T-cell immunity. And the combination of those makes the antibodies a small fraction of the people that have immunity.”
Atlas has been roundly criticized for misleading the public and the president.
But this virus kills everybody who comes in contact with it!
Look at all the bodies!!!1!!!
Due to a big uptick in the Covid infection rate over the past 2 weeks our local Govt overlord is now insisting everyone maintain “social bubbles” of 10 or less. They are not going to enforce it just yet – calling this a “recommendation”. With the usual division amongst the populace – some say fuck off and others saying ‘it’s about time”.
“Smaller gatherings dramatically reduce the risk of exposure to the coronavirus. A peer-reviewed online “risk assessment tool” built by researchers at Georgia Tech University shows there would be an 84% chance of an infected person at gathering of 50 people in St. Louis County. But that chance drops to a 30% chance at a gathering of 10.”
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/as-coronavirus-infections-hit-records-st-louis-county-to-roll-out-restrictions-on-most-activities/article_88821891-dffe-588b-8ffe-29ccb21c340e.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
That can apply to any virus.
Crimes against humanity.
That’s all this is.
One gigantic assault on citizens of the world.
And now Stockholm Syndrome has set in.
It will take a Bernard Goetz moment to wake people up and get them to question and challenge these incompetent authoritarians.
There literally is no such thing as “Georgia Tech University”.
But the phrase is enough to get a nice torch and pitchfork mob together. I am ready to burn down Carp’s house, and he just quoted someone else.
It is like these people have never watched a Boston College-Georgia Tech football game, in which you can predict the AFLAC trivia question in advance: “How many FBS schools do not have the word Univeristy in their name?”
The answer is five: BC, GT, and the 3 academies.
I expected robc to be the one pointing that out.
Lol, must refresh before posting.
Isnt that just the birthday “paradox”?
Covid infection rate
Every positive test is not an “infection”.
I am done with this casedemic.
Rolling 21-day average for ICUs and deaths still relatively consistent and not rising (volatile, but not trending upward overall)
So yesterday, my sister showed up in a mask which she declined to remove. In the house, all fucking day.
Because we’ll all die if she doesn’t wear it.
I really really need to get the fuck out of here.
Should have told her to take it off and put you out of your misery.
Oh, j/k
You should handed her a sanding block and some primer and told her to get work!
I think the Dems were ready to mess around with a few thousand ballots in some key states to make sure that Biden won. The usual amount of rigging that we talk about as the “marginal of fraud”.
But then Trump way over-performed in those states and the normal few thousand wasn’t going to help Joe. At midnight of election night, it was obvious Trump won pretty big. That’s when 7 states simultaneously stopped counting (Rico investigation!). When they came back in Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee. Philadelphia, and Las Vegas, Republican observers were kicked out and hundreds of thousands of Biden votes magically appeared. It’s laughably ham-fisted.
I’ll guess it was a combination of bringing in more ballots, running the same ballots through the counting machines repeatedly, and hacking the voting systems. Some of this will be identified in audits and recounts.
Even if they did, none of those places had results any different than the previous election and republicans will never be able to prove a thing.
4 counties in PA are sticking out like sore thumbs. None of them are Philadelphia County.
agreed. It isn’t philadelphia that raises an eyebrow. I think hilllary’s margins in philly were greater.
let’s take a look at Erie. Some interesting accounts from poll workers there too.
That’s nonsense. They had wildly different results in terms of turn-out and votes.
in terms of turnout maybe. in terms of votes not really.
Judge rules late PA ballots should NOT be counted
So, in other words, follow the existing law.
Hell of a note that we need to have a judge rule to abide by the law.
Still doesn’t let you observe vote counting in a Philly ward.
Where Trump outperformed to ’16 and Biden underperformed relative to Clinton.
Uh.. no.
2016
2020
Notice that Trump is still the “Apparent Winner” of PA in 2016, but 2020 gets no such qualifier.
Don’t believe the media. Trump is up 20K votes and Biden is off 4K from Clinton.
https://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/General/CountyBreakDownResults?officeId=1&districtId=1&ElectionID=83&ElectionType=G&IsActive=1
“this connection is untrusted”
Yep, our commonwealth really is into web security.
Isn’t that their job though? Better than then making law on their own.
Baseball bithdays today is a nice collection of the Hall of Good: Mel Stottlemyer, Pat Hentgen, Johnny Kling, Asdrubal Cabrera.
Man oh man the media and degenerate Obama gaslighting is through the roof. Criminal enterprise. You can just see the smirks.
There’s an unending supply of red flags everywhere. If ” the soul of the nation” was at stake, why did they do less than the minimum campaigning? How could you take your all day nap, starting at 10 A.M. everyday, knowing what you were up against? And how could so much confidence be attached to such a lazy assed candidate? And, why did nobody seem to care when he slipped up and claimed to have an extensive voter fraud network? Not even a follow up to clarify that one. I could keep going until my keyboard wears out. This whole election is a giant red flag. The dems have been desperate to oust Trump legally or otherwise from the start. Now, we’re supposed to believe that this is the most secure election ever and the people have spoken? Fuck right off!
? This.
Seconded.
President Trump claims voting machines deleted 2.7 million votes for him
This dangerous conspiracy theory is destroying democracy.
I still don’t understand this claim and immediately assumed it was bullshit. But it has been hand waved by the media immediately without explanation so suddenly I’m into it.
Funny how that works, now that we’ve been conditioned to immediately question the lies of omission the media loves so much.
hand waved by the media immediately without explanation so suddenly I’m into it.
Yup.
Also interesting that they have been giving themselves zero ground to retreat from “there is no widespread voter fraud”. And now language is changing to suggest that Trump, if his legal challenges win him the election, is engaged in a “coup”.
I am observing the 48
hourday rule.The way the election is being reported on the BBC is very disturbing. I tried speaking out. I should have kept my mouth shut. It’s the sudden and very stark realization of just how little good faith or respect or empathy my immediate family has for me if it has to come at the cost of hearing anything remotely challenging to their worldview. What happens if we all just keep our mouths shut forever and learn to just go along with it? The consequences for merely disagreeing are horrible. This disease of the mind has turned people into Stasi-like enforcers of The Narrative, so absolutely zealous that they would think nothing of deriding and hurting their own supposed loved ones to defend it. THE NARRATIVE UBER ALLES. It feels like the Taliban just herding everyone into these “schools” where they do nothing but read the Quran all day, except it’s the woke Taliban, and the text is The Narrative, and that’s the be all and end all. The Science is settled, the rationalisations for the crony, corrupt, Big Govt solutions and the centralized tyranny are absolute. They just say it and it’s the “truth”, yet somehow they always insist on taking Trump literally, and wring their hands over some things he said or tweeted. He’s so terrible. Some out of context, off the cuff repartee from a press conference must equate to some kind of dictatorial order to load up the cattle cars or deprive women of “healthcare”. I fucking hate it. I have to be better, principled, stay the course, not descend into the callousness and dishonesty of those around me. To hell with Obama, the lying psychopath. To hell with the MSM. To hell with The Narrative. To use an all to familiar phrase, the reporting on the election seems to be Orwellian beyond the likes of anything I recall in my lifetime. It’s a continuation of the extreme gaslighting that’s been going on for the last 4 years and more, coordinated between federal agencies and the MSM. That’s conspiracy. I know I’m preaching to the choir, but I’m very much struggling with the fact that the people I care about the most, and who are closest to me, and whom might have been the last possible to actually engage me in good faith, have been tipped over the edge. Anyone, including me, who is guilty of wrongthink, must either be evil, or stupid. I guess they find it easier to call me stupid, for now.
In summary, this election might have broke old limey here. I didn’t think I’d hitched my wagon to it so firmly, but it’s managed to tow me some ways down a bad road anyway.
It really is amazing to see, ain’t it? Just looking at my FB and anyone makes a comment that says to “Let’s just wait and see what the evidence is” is labeled a dictator supporter. I’ve never seen anything like this.
I think if I still had Facebook that might have driven me to a mania already
90% of my “friends” are Japanese and they don’t do that shit, so it’s still tolerable.
I still have it but I’m not sure when I might next take a peek. Probably next year sometime.
I was fully expecting that the BBC would be all in on Biden, given that it appears the British intelligence services were up to their ears in the Russian collusion narrative.
I watched some of their election night coverage and it was fairly even-handed to me. That was from about 8 pm-9:30 pm.
‘Empathy’ is another concept that the progressives have thoroughly ruined.
Progressives as a whole completely lack empathy, and in fact don’t even really understand what empathy is.
But that sure doesn’t stop them from using it as a club to beat up their class enemies.
Yes
It’s akin to the oh so rational skeptics who want to censor opposing viewpoints. Their empathy/rationality is far more advanced than yours, therefore you should submit to their moral/intellectual superiority for your own good.
This. The issue is that it works well on people who emote their way through life. There’s no ah ha moment where they realize that their emotions are being manipulated because there is nothing inside their heads except emotion.
Empathy is outsourcing the work of fixing the ills of the world as you pervice them onto others by way of taxation and force…and social media platitudes.
perceive…dammit.
“Pervice” = The act of engaging in things your wife won’t do with a cheap hooker
Hawt. What’s the going rate?
Depends on you pervicion
Ambiguous wording there, Q.
Intentional?
Ambiguity makes things interesting.
If my wife wants a hooker, I’m taking out a loan for a good one. Her happiness is important to me.
What’s not empathetic about supporting a drug warrior and a 47 year government leech that will expand the warfare aims of the bureaucratic state?
I feel your pain. I hate how they talk about empathy too.
You’re not broken, instead you’ve been fixed. If they get away with cheating then the system will be broken and needing fixed.
1. Eliminate all social media.
2. Stop paying attention to the “news”. Any current events I get from here, usually with some amusing snark.
3. Completely refuse to talk to politics with anyone that you care about continuing a relationship with. Seriously.
One of my best friends is a mega-prog; he lives in Portland (lol) so I only get to talk with him on the phone and don’t see him that often. About 2 years ago, he ramped up OMB to a fever pitch and wouldn’t talk about anything else. After repeatedly telling him that I didn’t want to talk politics with him, I finally just started hanging up on him the instant he started going into it. It was tough for a couple of months but he finally got the message that if he wants to talk to me at all, he needs to stay away from politics. Our friendship has gotten a lot better since then. If you’re physically with someone that does it, that would be tougher but I suppose you could just say “I told you I don’t want to talk politics” and leave. If your family continues to mistreat you, at some point you just have to say that they’re lost. It’s like seeing a loved one go through a hardcore drug addiction; it’s painful but just because they’re family doesn’t give them license to make you feel like shit just for having an opinion.
What’s funny is that these people with the messianic missionary zeal (for progressive politics) are so vehemently anti-religious (or perhaps only really anti-Christianity). Substitution is all it is – the behavior is absolutely identical.
They hate Jews too.
Yep, disengaging is a good answer. I talk politics with y’all, a few conservative friends, and my wife. I’ll occasionally play devil’s advocate when my inlaws start talking about it, but that’s rare.
Engaging broadly on any issue related to politics is folly these days. At minimum, you’re going to enweirden your relationship with the person. The consequences only go up from there depending how much you offend them.
I hear ya. Being a Marine I really do consider the dem’s, due to their actions or complacency with their party’s unconstitutional actions – voter/election fraud, redistributive taxation, etc., to be domestic enemies at this point. I just can’t deal with them, especially when I do the research and don’t just accept lazy journos’ hesaidshesaid style of reporting. When I present facts and investigative news source options and am told those are just conspiracy theories… ain’t nobody got time for that.
Should have told her to take it off and put you out of your misery.
My mom is a “vulnerable person” but it still just drives me fucking bonkers. My sister actually knows a few people who died, but guess what- they were people who already had one foot in the grave. But it were the plague what dunnem in.
To hell with the tyranny. To hell with Biden. To hell with Fauci. God damn what this is doing to people.
Well, I guess look at the positive. At least you’re still allowed to see her.
The fact that I just typed that is kinda fucked up.
AZ Secretary of State referred to Trump’s base as “Neo-Nazis” in 2017.
So she can be expected to be impartial in election proceedings.
Yeah, I recall after 2016 the Dems made a big push to capture Secretaries of State. Soros gave this push a lot of funding. The Repubs, naturally, saw nothing wrong with their opponents controlling the election machinery.
And here we are – a nationwide election, overseen in a disproportionate number of states by Dems (I assume that there are more Dem SecStates than one would expect looking at governors and state legislatures, AZ being one example) that is a total clusterfuck, with the fuckery all mysteriously pointing in a single direction.
Now, maybe the Repubs are running a giant psy-ops campaign, producing all these reports of “glitches” and sworn testimony which is actually baseless, and that was their plan for “stealing” the election. Its such a bone-crushingly stupid plan, I’m willing to believe its what the Repub powerbrokers came up with in their newly smoke-free room. But it seems less likely to me than the consensus narrative that there’s nothing to see here, move along.
Just abolish the office of Secretary of State. Seriously what does a state need with that? Just have it fall under the Lt Guv or AG’s office.
“We focus on those who get really sick, but 95% to 98% of those who get the virus don’t have to go to the hospital,” Elledge said. “There are a lot of people who do get better.”
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
We must maintain a laser focus on the worst, most frightening anecdotal examples.
Every [single] death is a tragedy.
We have become so effete that we think a life without tragedy is not only possible, but our due.
Officials in Georgia have not been able to show evidence of the alleged pipe burst in Atlanta.
Credit for being the only ones to even attempt to have an explanation for the counting delay. But this is and always was bullshit.
Isn’t this the one that on election night you rolled your eyes and laughed “bullshit” at the tv? I did.
A pipe burst so we have to wait until tomorrow. lol. ok.
Then they sent republicans watchers home and proceeded to count the vote that night .
This one is probably the most obvious bullshit of the whole shebang.
At least they made the effort. The rest of them just said “fuck it, we’re done until we find a way for our guy to win”.
So… in one piece of good news here in Ohio, the lawsuits are already getting prepped if there’s another shutdown order on Thursday. Including reminders that the current state of fitness centers and gyms is that DeWine overstepped his authority shutting them down. Several clubs have announced that they’re going to ignore any shutdown orders and refer back to that court case for authority.
An interesting lawsuit that’s getting put together is a class action lawsuit (usually not a big fan) from the concert venues, bars, restaurants, and the like to recover money paid in state licenses during the state ordered shutdown.
The problem with most class action lawsuits is that it isnt noramlly a conglomeration of a class choosing to file a lawsuit together. If the venus,bars, etc are signing on to be a part and organizing a lawsuit, that is a perfectly fine class action lawsuit IMO. That isn’t how it normally works.
I don’t understand how any of these lockdown rules are constitutional in the first place. Restricting religious assemblies seems like it would be a slam dunk violation.
Are you new here? FYTW.
Apparently Alito is making some rumbles about the constitutionality of the orders and signaling his willingness to hear a case or two.
This stuff should’ve been litigated at least 6 months ago.
You should listen to your betters and shut it down
But I’m the only real thing, the rest of the world is Tulpa.
“Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert”
LOLOLOL
“High Ranking Do-Nothing Bureaucrat” != “Top Expert”
Why only the bestest people nobly serve in our government, donchaknow?
Effects of Psilocybin-Assisted Therapy on Major Depressive DisorderA Randomized Clinical Trial
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2772630
Friday Funbags’ fine ladies will have you wanting to stuff their ballot boxes.
https://archive.li/pxFEB
I’d harvest 27’s votes anytime.
Trump Admin strikes deal to make COVID-19 vaccine free at all major pharmacies.
Dems/Leftists should be all praise over this, but Orange Man Bad.
I’m waiting for Cuomo to weigh in on this. Should be entertaining.
When are New Yorkers going to tar and feather that corrupt asshole?
Right after they stop licking his asshole.
All covid treatment has always been free and was decreed from the Trump administration on high at the beginning of this.
I don’t really agree with it but am amused at the total media silence on the subject.
Sen. Rand Paul seized on a New York Times report showing many school-aged children already have antibodies from infection with other coronaviruses associated with common colds that could block the new SARS-CoV-2 strain causing the pandemic.
So do most people unless they are immunocompromised.
“seized on a New York Times report”
Or maybe he just mentioned it. Jesus Fuck you journalists with all the drama.
Honestly, I’m surprised he didn’t pounce. Republicans do a lot of pouncing, from what I hear.
Authoritarianism is dead. Long live authoritarianism.
Whatever ultimately happens with this election, this is the biggest red-pill in American history.
The blatancy of the fraud, the media complicity, the left’s skin-masking of our institutions – it’s a giant wake-up call for half the country and things are going to get very ugly in the next few years.
Conservatives increasingly are congregating on social media outlets designed specifically for people who think like them.
Because they are being banned or otherwise driven from outlets that think like you.
Also because the other sites are literally censoring them.
The outspoken conservative las i know who went to Parler have no issues fighting it out on social media. They have issues with social media censoring conservatives.
The beautiful thing here is that Trump has an opportunity to create a completely parallel media empire. We’ve talked a lot on here about what it would take to free oneself from the prog monopoly and how big of a lift it would be; up to and including creating liberty-friendly ISPs. Trump has the popularity, resources and momentum right now to actually do that. You have at least 100M people (probably a lot more) that would dump Comcast/Twatterbookagramgleflix/AT&T/Hollyweird etc. etc. in a heartbeat if offered an alternative that didn’t outright despise them. In most ways, that would be a much more powerful weapon than winning reelection since it would be a wholesale cultural shift and not just a Sisyphean battle against the Swamp.
How is his Media empire going to make money? Tucker Carlson has trouble getting advertisers, who is going to advertise on TNN?
Hi, I’m Mike Lindell…
Man Tucker Carlson is basically printing money though.
The advertisers (most of them at least) that avoid Carlson aren’t doing it out of genuine ideological belief, they’re just afraid of being “cancelled”. Remove that fear with a built-in potential clientele of 100M+ people; people that are more likely to patronize you simply out of loyalty to the fact that you’re advertising at all because they’ve been so badly mistreated by existing prog media…
Sure, some advertisers won’t, but I’d be willing to bet there’s more than enough that would. Any capitalist who doesn’t realize the market opportunity for such an enormous potentially loyal (and likely fairly affluent) clientele is a fool.
Also Tucker Carlson is the most popular show in America by far.
I agree… Just that Corporate America seems chock full of fools these days.
Imagine a different media model – one not based on eyeballs, say instead, based on subscribers.
up to and including creating liberty-friendly ISPs
It’s too early to start drinking.
Yes – if he does end up losing, he can become even more dangerous to the left. If he bought up Newsmax and / or OANN, it would quickly outpace Fox. Tucker and a few others would have alternative employment and become less constrained or move over to work there.
I think there would have to be a significant amount of air time for Trump himself. Whatever his political ideas are (and they don’t seem to be coherent), he’s more about ego than anything else (which makes him the same as most other politicians). I don’t think he’s going to run a network for “the good of the country.”
His political idea is to expose and smash things – the deep state, media propaganda, election fraud, the corruption of our foreign policy…
What he has exposed is far beyond what I could have guessed at 5 years ago in my most cynical mood.
“If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.”
While I don’t disagree on the opportunity, I wonder if it will be any better at delivering actual facts, data, reasoned analysis, etc… especially if it’s Trump in charge.
One thing that’s been mentioned numerous times here is how the normals on the right have much the same behavior as those on that lean left: They’re not really interested in critical thinking or discussing principles, but in getting good soundbites to “own” their opponents.
That said, just the competition alone would be an unmitigated good, in my opinion, even if the content itself is somewhat less than satisfying.
I’ve seen a divide on the “red” side. Some just throw bombs but others want to see source data before launching.
This applies to those of us outside the normal political teams as well, and we need to keep it in mind. There is no magical shield against confirmation bias.
“competition alone would be an unmitigated good”
Without a doubt. Propaganda depends on there being no source of alternative information.
I’m sure you’re right, but the point is to allow alternative views. Right now every nutty idea the left comes up with is protected, while people on the right can be censored just for calling them out.
From the PJ Media article: Leftists believe Donald Trump is a Russian secret agent, Hillary would have been elected but for Russian Facebook ads, the black man running Proud Boys is a white nationalist, and Brett Kavanaugh was a serial rapist who gave out red cups with roofies. But, sure, conservatives are the weirdos.
Absolutely. Even if all the content on there is an inch wide and a mile deep, at least it’s there. And would be impossible to keep out of the public eye for very long, which is another checkmark in the win column.
if it will be any better at delivering actual facts, data, reasoned analysis
No.
But that’s not really the point. What you say here is an ideal, but the ideal has turned into a fantasy, and the fantasy doesn’t match reality. Very few people are engaged in anything like that ideal. The goal of building a media empire is not live up to some high-minded ideal; it’s to give representation to your perspective. So if Trump were to found a media empire, then somewhat like Andrew Breitbart before him, it would be all about him and his hobby horses, but that’s not really any different than Don Lemon, Chris Cuomo, Rachel Maddow, Anderson Cooper, Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, etc. You don’t make money telling the truth, using reasoned analysis, and accounting for all sides consistently.
(didn’t mean to pile on, just hadn’t refreshed in a bit)
In case my original comment wasn’t clear: I’m not saying that because the content isn’t ideal, then the service shouldn’t exist. The perfect ought not to be the enemy of the good, and all that. Simply that I don’t see it moving toward a general discussion of first principles and the like.
But, maybe I’m wrong.
Perhaps a first iteration of parallel media won’t be more than what I described, but just getting that into the public space will have secondary effects where there does become a demand for examination of ideals.
One can dream, eh?
Agreed on all fronts. We are living in the legacy of a lie: that the media is “neutral”, “unbiased”, and generally concerned about the public welfare. They are none of those things, and that is fine, as long as we strip away the wall of bullshit around them. Media never was any of those things, there are no halcyon days of yore, and Walter Cronkite was just a prototype for today’s lying media asshole.
I can think of something (fraud) that actually delegitimizes democracy.
Obama said Trump’s claims “appear to be motivated, in part, because the president doesn’t like to lose, and never admits loss. I’m more troubled by the fact that other Republican officials, who clearly know better are going along with this, are humoring him in this fashion. It is one more step in delegitimizing, not just the incoming Biden administration, but democracy generally, and that’s a dangerous path.”
What do you call it when one party teams up with the civil service to overturn the results of an election by hook or by crook?
Delegitimising an incoming admin. That is just awful. The highest of Perfidy’s. Anyone who does and has done that should be executed summarily.
Great links as always Banjos.
FedSoc has another decent lineup today. From my email:
Thanks Trashy. I really enjoyed the Intellectual Property panel; it’s nice to hear actual professionals discussing opposing views professionally, absent all the vitriol and shit-flinging that normally accompanies discussions in the public sphere.
I tried my hardest to ask a question because the topic of the panel was square in the crosshairs of my day job.
Prof. Contreras stole a few bases by making efficient infringement solely about patent trolls. Prof. Epstein and Mr. Johnson tried to call him out on it, but that thread got lost in the overall conversation. In the tech industry, everybody infringes one another’s patents on a daily basis. It’s not really efficient infringement as much as mutually assured destruction. You can sue me on your infringed patent if you want, but I have 10,000 patents to sift through to find the best 20 to countersue you with. To say that such a regime has a chilling effect on IP rights enforcement is an understatement, especially for the smaller players who us big dogs could snuff out without breaking a sweat.
Overall, it was a great panel, but they were missing a voice of somebody who has actually been in the trenches in the last 15 years.
All of that bullshit is exactly why I don’t get worked up about the Chinese “stealing” our IP. IP is a fraud to begin with.
WTF, indeed.
400 years ago, 102 pilgrims risked a 3,000 mile trip in an 80 foot ship in search of religious freedom. 1/2 died. Today, our Gov’t is prohibiting from us from gathering to celebrate them because of a virus with a 99.95% survival rate. WTF happened to us?
We began to think that life owed us something because we deserved it, and then we began to trust government to deliver it to us.
short version from Romans 1: worshipping the created instead of the Creator
Kramer is on Squawk screaming that we need mandated Covid vaccines (similar to polio) and all bars and restaurants need to close – he is optimistic because the “President-elect” understands this.
I don’t get the mandated thing. It’s obvious that plenty of people will get the vaccine anyway.
It’s just about control.
Again, if the vaccine turns out to have long-term side effects, then everyone suffers the consequences equally.
“You are not of the body”
The same people who told me that “antibodies only last 3 months* at most” are the same ones now telling me that a vaccine will make a person immune forever.
* I couldn’t find any sources saying “3 months at most”, but they all seemed to say “at least 3 months”.
While the actual antibodies produced only stick around for a few months. (three being the life span of your average red blood cell and probably other blood components), the information on how to make them sticks around longer, and a reintroduction of viral agents will prompt immediate creation of new antibodies on the existing template.
It’s a waste of energy to keep making replacement antibodies for a disease not currently attacking the body, so the body doesn’t do it.
The real limiting factor will be how long it takes for the coronavirus to mutate into a form where the previous template of antibodies no longer works.
This will also make it a new disease.
Oh definitely, the memory T-cells play a big part.
I was just expressing aggravation that the “I love science” and “listen to the experts” crowd does not seem to have the slightest understanding of the matters that they want to regulate.
Heretofore unimagineable
Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito on Thursday sounded an alarm about restrictions imposed because of the coronavirus pandemic, saying they shouldn’t become a “recurring feature after the pandemic has passed.”
“The pandemic has resulted in previously unimaginable restrictions on individual liberty,” Alito said in an address to the conservative Federalist Society, which is holding its annual convention virtually because of the pandemic.
Trump’s Authoritarian Amerikkka, man.
Those governors never would have done it if President Cartoon Villain hadn’t been holding a gun to their heads.
Can it be construed as a tax? If so Roberts says OK.
If not Roberts says: Is it really a punishment? If there is not punishment, then there’s no mandate! OK!
Its not even heads I win, tails you lose.
Its a coin with two heads.
if President Cartoon Villain hadn’t been holding a gun to their heads
Shades of Blazing Saddles.
I honestly think we are going to have a hague in 2024 personally punishing the people who pushed this, it’s going to be that bad economically.
What a loser.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/dear-deidre/13181107/face-to-face-with-guy-wife-lost-virginity-to/
#Dominion
I tweeted ONE WORD, and Twitter attaches a fraud disclaimer. The bias is sickening.
The government has outsourced censorship to Muh Free Markut, so it’s all OK. Right, TOS?
Yes, I know, “Google, Twitter, Facebook and such Can’t Put a Gun to My Head.” The beauty of this setup is, there is no need to.
Also reminding me of Blazing Saddles (gun to head).
Ha! That was some funny stuff.
Well, he has a video attached, too. (not agreeing with Twitter)
Morning Banjos!
Great song, also heard it recently watching “Clue” for the first time in 15 years. Now I’m gonna go home and sleep with my wife! ?
Sure, some advertisers won’t, but I’d be willing to bet there’s more than enough that would. Any capitalist who doesn’t realize the market opportunity for such an enormous potentially loyal (and likely fairly affluent) clientele is a fool.
“Republicans buy shoes, too.”
Watched a couple of movies last night:
Superman Red Son –
It was an interesting take on DC comics. I was entertained. There were a couple of annoying SJW moments, but for the most part I’d recommend it to any comic book fans.
12 Monkeys –
Someone recommended this a couple of days ago on here. I really like older movies that unwittingly give a portrayal of their times. It’s like opening a time capsule. I got that feeling a lot watching this. Overall it was good. I thought I’d completely forgotten everything about the movie, but about 10 mins in it all came flooding back. It’s crazy how the human mind works. Young Brad Pitt was pretty fun to watch. Willis did a good job being Willis. It was refreshing to have a main character that wasn’t so one dimensional. The only kind of stupid/predictable was the actual villain. Madeleine Stowe did a good job going from sane doctor to insane crazy gf, there were definitely some LOL moments towards the end when she was challenging her own sanity.
I absolutely 12 Monkeys. Great film.
errr…. love 12 Monkeys.
So many? Why, you are quite the monkey-lover.
I’ve just never been the kind of guy who can commit to a single monkey. man, it’s a big jungle out there and it’s full of monkeys.
Apparently there’s a series “12 monkeys.” Has anyone seen this? Thoughts?
I have not and i was afraid to watch it because i liked the movie. does that seem weird?
No. Just skimming some info on it, it’s made it a few seasons, but it doesn’t look promising.
No, I never watched that HBO Watchmen thing.
don’t
I watched it. It drags a bit in Season 3, but Season 4 wraps things up pretty well and overall I enjoyed it.
I don’t get the mandated thing. It’s obvious that plenty of people will get the vaccine anyway.
Not getting vaccinated is just like murdering your neighbors. Same as not wearing the mask, you heartless monster.
I don’t see it happening but I absolutely expect schools and daycares to require children to have it.
Which is interesting, as I don’t believe there are many (any?) that require something like a flu shot now. MMR or distemper or whatever, sure, but not seasonal.
**The following conversation is based of real events, the names of the people and businesses and products involved have been altered to protect the innocent**
Leon: Hey i finished work on that proof of concept code for the voting machines.
Dominion Manager: Cool, How soon can we get this to our customers?
Leon: Well, it is going to be a bit, this is just a prototype. It’ll need to actually be implemented rigorously. You know perform Security checks, performance tests –
Dominon: We’ve already showed this off to our customers. They love it, can we ship it in the next release?
Leon: Umm…. How? I just showed it to you?
D: Will it be ready for the next release?
Leon: I mean… I wasn’t thinking we were going to tell customers about this till we had a working product…
D: Yes and they love what you’ve done. want it now. Can we ship it?
…. [ To Be Continued ]
Sounds like the show Homeland.
Whistleblower: We mess up and put solders at risk. They shouldn’t have been given this drug this way.
General: Well did it work? Did they feel better?
Whistleblower: Yes, but we violated their rights and gave them something that might have unforeseen consequences
General: You have a new partner whether you like it or not, when can we make it in volume?
The Paradox of Prototypes
That Rand Paul story is reason #1,587,484 that it’s not what someone says, it’s who says it.
So what is everyone’s opinion on private entities requiring people to have a vaccine or test? Is it ok for a concert venue to require proof you’ve had one of those in order to enter?
If you believe in freedom of association, a outrance, then yes. But that allows lots of other types of discrimination to exist too.
I just made a comment about this (free association, not concert venues) on another site, but I think that free association is one of the obvious dividing lines between thin and thick libertarians.
sure why not?
From a basic libertarian standpoint, I guess you have to say yes:
From a “where we are right now” standpoint, i’m not a lawyer, but i’d be very wary about letting my business do that due to HIPPA etc.
Can you ask for proof that someone doesn’t have AIDS? I know transmission isn’t the same, but i thought we made laws specifically about this. I know the politics of it all is different, and so why it is getting a different treatment.
I’ve actually had the vaccine myself because I was in the Pfizer vaccine study but there’s no easy way I could prove it to anyone. I supposed when someone yells at me for not wearing a face mask I could make a case that would take like 20 minutes.
Are we gonna have cards that we carry around or something?
man it’s not happening.
Are you in the 90% or the 10% and how do they know. Do they put you all in a room with a superspreader?
Do you mean in the control group? No. It’s actually supposed to be double blind but people in the control group don’t get the ordinary vaccine symptoms like sore arm afterward. We all know. My brother was in the study too and wound up in the control group. We all know almost immediately.
No I haven’t gotten remotely sick. They want me to go out to bars and have people breathe on me. It’s actually pretty funny. I promised to try my best.
The biggest problem they were having is almost no one is getting sick. Even in the control group. So it took awhile to collect data Why? Because covid is actually not that widespread. Even now. Go back and look at the projections and laugh. This thing was supposed to be everywhere’s and after a year 1 in 300 Americans has had confirmed covid.
That last paragraph was my point. I was joking about them bringing in a superspreader to make sure everyone gets exposed to see who comes down with it.
Yeah. They are kind of joking about it too but also kind of half serious. They really want to prove it works.
They should get you a covid infected hooker.
Perhaps a geometric shape, in a particular color?
Nah, too much of a burden.
Now, armbands that you don’t have to carry, that’s the ticket! Maybe with a special gold star for all the people that don’t have the virus, yeah!
I am firmly against it, but it should be legal as should all forms of private discrimination.
^^^
Am i Ok with it? Not really, i don’t like people meddling in my business and i doubt i would patronize such a location. Would i say that it should be illegal? No.
also what about people who had covid and are now immune? there’s over a million of them. they’re not carrying proof around. are we gonna make them waste their time and go get vaccinated?
I just don’t see this logistically working out.
Also, what about the 5% of adults who have a natural immunity due to other coronaviruses?
I suspect its a lot higher than that. There’s a reason why the vast majority of people who test positive get no worse than moderately sick.
I’m working on an article (which may or may not ever be finished) looking at the various “pills” (blue, red, black, white, etc.) in relation to the Kierkegaardian model of despair. Many here, and many on the outside, have been black-pilled and become the Knight of Infinite Resignation. I get that and I’ve gone through it; but I’ve made a conscious decision to take the white-pill, aka the Leap of Faith and try to become the Knight of Faith.
Remember: internet/entertainment/media “culture” is a psychological warfare operation designed to make progs feel that they are invincible and that it’s utterly hopeless for anyone who disagrees. How easy is it to fight an enemy that gives up because it’s convinced it can’t win? Psyops are built on that idea. So don’t give up, no matter how bad it seems. For all his numerous flaws, that’s Trump’s best quality; he never gives up. Ever. In spite of the odds and the constant attacks, in spite of a corrupt system, in spite of the burning hatred; he’s still fighting to this day. If the American Revolution had been fought on paper, the US wouldn’t exist.
Where does #collapsitarianism fall on the pill scale?
Subset of Black Pill.
Depends I guess on what you think comes after the collapse. If you think that only suffering, human misery and destruction can result forever then I’d say KoIR. If you think that something better could rise in its place, then I’d say some flavor of KoF. It also depends on your mindset; in both cases you have given up your anxiety of the situation, however KoIR would be distressed and unhappy at the potential outcome whereas the KoF would believe in something better regardless of how absurd it may seem.
Serious reply to an obviously joking comment #231: I think you are going to have a problem reconciling going #collapsitarian with your faith.
I find Jordan Peterson very interesting, and much of what he says resonates with me. The one idea of his which really forced me to do some soul searching was his discussion of nihilism. The black pill is taking a step down the path to hell. It doesn’t lead to resigned acceptance of the world’s evils; it leads to actively embracing the worst of them.
I prefer these philosophers.
But yeah, I fight hard against the black pill. And I’m glad JP is back on the scene.
What about the green pill? The green pill is people!
Every one of these pilled, based, cucked, etc. terms are so …. tedious.
Oh, almost forgot:
https://pics.onsizzle.com/mike-mikemikemikemikemikemike-guess-what-day-it-is-sigh-its-friday-28329535.png
#metoo
thicc?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8946131/Demi-Rose-shows-incredible-curves-nude-bikini-sweeping-satin-robe.html
Nope. Curves for days!
“Donald Trump has told aides he will immediately announce he will run in 2024 when Joe Biden is certified as the winner but is still floating wild theory he could get states to ignore the popular vote”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8946009/Donald-Trump-announce-run-2024-Joe-Biden-certified-election-winner.html
Who knows?
yeah that’s actually a really bad idea on trying to get states to ignore popular vote. really bad.
Don’t see how that is possible. I figured places had how electors where chosen enshrined by law, it would require the legislature in those states (PA) to pass a change that then doesn’t get Vetoed, or is Veto Proof.
But also DailyMail; Might not be accurate.
i bet it’s not yeah.
Friendly reminder, TMITE.
In general, the law for selecting electors is laid out by the state legislature. Republicans don’t have a legislative supermajority in any of the contested states, as far as I know, so the only legal path to “ignoring” the popular vote is foreclosed (and, in my mind, it’s questionable that changing the method of selection after you’ve held an election under the premise it selects the electors should be allowed; the states have wide latitude to select their electors but such a late-in-the-game change raises questions w/r/t the Constitutional guarantee of small-r republican government). Of course, calling it “ignoring” is just spin. The popular vote is not actually settled until the safe harbor date, and using the courts to address concerns with it between now and then is not “ignoring” it.
I want Noem to run. Cause she seems awesome and you know, maybe even somewhat principled.
Plus having the media trash a woman to protect a decrepit Biden would be :chefs kiss:
Of course Biden may well not make it till then.
If these election results are real it also means Trump actually underperformed average Republicans. Trotting him out in 2024 would be a Hillary-esque grasping at straws.
I don’t believe it would work.
If he lost, time to move on.
There can only be One Grover Cleveland.
There are two:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/alexape01.shtml
Hew would be pushing 80 years old. No thank you.
Like the president elect.
Both are too old at his point. When does the experience curve cross over the cognitive decline curve?
Maybe so, but does he win the nomination? Seems like there’s a good chance he would.
I think the Republican establishment would react much like the Democratic one did this time around: SHUT OUT THE OUTSIDER!
I’m sure you’re right, but would it matter? They tried to shut him out in 2016, and he won anyway.
Let malaise sink in for a few years and see if people change their minds.
Noem/Gabbard 2024. But they would lose because all the male voters would be in their bunks from the time of their announcement through election day.
And all the women will be voting for the old guy in office? Oh, right, because he has the “D”
Women are all about the D. . .
all the male voters would be in their bunks from the time of their announcement through election day.
I couldn’t hear you over the thought of them having a policy dispute that resulted in a bikini-clad mud-wrestling match in the oval office.
I’d say that a whole bunch of ballots would be thrown out for mismatched signatures because of men signing with their off hand, but who am I kidding. They don’t bother matching signatures.
If Harris is running the FBI/DOJ, I fully expect criminal investigations of any Repub politicians who might be a threat. Its the logical next step for what we have seen so far with the IRS, Mueller, etc.
I’m sure this is as accurate as all the other Trump reporting.
I was out having a few drinks with people and somebody floated this idea – if it comes down to Trump having exhausted all means to overturn the stolen election, in the final hours he pardons Snowden. They both have a mutual enemy in the deep state and he wouldn’t be losing anything for doing it…
Plenty of people are saying that he should pardon a bunch of people and declassify a bunch of shit.
Everything related to Benghazi should be declassified – and broadcast.
They will NEVER reveal why we were there in the first place. Trump could march up to the bureaucracy and threaten to shoot each one in the head, and they aren’t going to explain everything that led up to Stevens death.
That’s one of the things that bothers me about Benghazi. WTF were we doing there? The attack itself doesn’t bother me. The enemy always gets a say. Putting our people in harm’s way and then not defending them pisses me off.
And Snowden shows up will all the proof that Dominion was hacked.
/a guy can dream
LoBoT:
You want REALLY CHEAP and you have some elbow grease to spare?
https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/boa/d/ferris-26ft-1977-allmand/7226932473.html
I already talked to the guy. It’s legit. You just need to go through the hassle of title through storage default. He says he’s got all of the paperwork, but it is a PIA.
I never listened to anything Trump said while he was President. I’m sure as Hell not going to listen to him when he isn’t.
His network would just get skin-suited the moment he stepped down or died anyway.
BLACK PILL, BITCHES!!!
Ha!
I can’t remember this being so fucked up since 1981. Mornin Banjos.
Cocaine is a helluva drug.
I just noticed- it’s Friday the 13th.
I’m not leaving the house, today.
She really does sport the look. What the fuck is wrong with these people?
I love that you bring the positive! Going to bed now.
Bonus tits since everyone around here is so down in the dumps.
https://archive.li/yIUVj
I’m actually rather chipper this morning.
Preliminary research shows we shouldn’t have any problem getting residency in Panama, Costa Rica or Uruguay. Meeting some of the income requirements may take some ‘splaining, given our unique retirement asset/income structure, or perhaps even some restructuring, but it looks very doable. Once the Current Unpleasantness is over, I expect we’ll take a couple of weeks to do some travelling and settle on our fallback nation-state.
Ironic that US-ians would be considering fleeing *to* Latin America to escape political instability.
Uruguay has been quite stable since, er, the military dictatorship squashed the commies in the 80’s,
Yeah, so was Chile (which I had been giving fair consideration to as a destination).
Me too, but they have recently gone hard left and my friend who grew up there has talked me out of it. Too bad, though, the lake country is freekin’ gorgeous there.
I’m not sure they’ve gone hard left. But it is too unstable now to justify the plunge. Going from frying pan to fire.
If you like a Texas weather, with slightly cooler winters (still no snow) and good beaches, i can highly recommend Uruguay.
Texas weather, where in Texas? There is a lot of variability across the state.
If the US descends into any kind of serious internal conflict, my fear is it will rapidly escalate into something that is pretty unprecedented, given our taste for violence, the number of guns in circulation, and the frothing hatred of our ruling class for normal people. The alternative appears to be a descent into a lefty authoritarian/totalitarian state, with current-day England being perhaps the best outcome. I would prefer not to be here for either. Its a backup plan that needs a fair amount of work to get to where it needs to be. Backup plans in volatile situations are a good thing.
Think San Antonio, central texas, but with some cooling that comes off the atlantic. The summers get warm, but not 110s the winters are cool, but that’s because of the humidity. Beatuiful Country, Lots of open space if you like that kind of thing. Most of the towns are fairly small outside of the capital, and outside the capital region, pretty calm crime wise. It’s my spot that i would like, outside of maybe Canada. There are some Expat Enclaves, though you generally have to be closer to Montevideo to be among them.
It’s where the “overland” people meet up.
Yeah we have been considering Uruguay for awhile and plan to get down there as soon as things open up. The tax situation is similar to the current US so not terrible and the 12% tax on capital gains is net of any tax paid elsewhere. Property is reasonable, 90% renewable energy (independence!) and LEGAL WEED! The only concern is that 40% of the economy is tied to Argentina and we all know what a shitshow they are.
The thing about Uruguay, isn’t it really windy there a lot of the time? I hate windy weather.
There are wind storms that come rolling off the plains, but not constant.
I forget sometimes how large our country is.
The largest in your trio (Uruguay) is between Florida and Missouri in terms of area, putting it between 21 and 22 for state size.
(not a bad thing)
And only 3.5M people….you could know everyone (well 2 degrees, anyway)!
Nice tits. It ain’t over until it’s over. Imma go sit on Banjo’s bench.
How about you fuck off and die in a ditch?
How about truth and no reconciliation?
Apropos of nothing, I am still struggling with whether to get an NFA license so I can get a couple of suppressors. If I wasn’t concerned about NFA licensees being at the very tippy top of the list to have their doors kicked in by the Harris admininstration, I wouldn’t hesitate. Found an outfit making rifle barrels with integral suppressors, and was thinking one of those for my Thompson Center would be pretty cool in .300 Blackout. It would need a custom fore-end, but that should also be doable.
I, for one, do not have any firearms, especially any nondescript rifles of color.
(But my concern now is getting a double-stack pistol before the VA legislature or feds, in their infinite
wisdomtyranny succeed in making them illegal. I also want that PSA 9mm carbine that is AK patterned.)You can set up a trust. That way your wife, children, etc. can use them legally.
^The way to go, for sure.
Do you need a separate license for NFA items where you live? Or do you just mean you are thinking to buy an NFA item, going through the transfer paperwork?
I’ve done a few of these are there is no license involved (at least not in AZ or NM).
Hmm. Obviously haven’t looked into it in detail. I thought suppressors were NFA items per federal law. Didn’t know you could buy them off the shelf in AZ without a license. I want to say the gun store has them in an “NFA only” case. Have to look into it.
Setting up a trust does nothing to keep me off the door-kickers’ list.
You don’t need a license to buy NFA items. You only need the license to deal in them. Buying them just requires the background check rigamarole and tax stamp.
Pretty sure I can’t buy a full auto for personal use without some kind of NFA license, can I?
This doesn’t look like, walk into the shop, slap down some bills, and walk out with your suppressor to me.
You need to go through a lengthy background check, with finger print cards etc., have a local Chief LEO sign off and pay the $200 tax, then keep the tax stamp with the item at all times. You do not need a license. The class III license allows you to sell NFA items, and you need a license holder as intermediary in your purchase, just like you need an ordinary license holder as intermediary in an interstate purchase of an ordinary handgun.
NFA items are registered and you need to transfer registration to your name to take ownership. You make a deal with the current owner, file the paperwork – which includes paying the tax – and after the paperwork is approved you take ownership of the item.
There is no license unless you are an FFL filing to upgrade your license to an NFA FFL (FFL with the ability to handle NFA purchases).
Got it. Each suppressor is separately licensed to you (or your trust or whatever). I don’t need a dealer license.
But your name is still on a list. A list that a sociopath like Harris could find very useful indeed.
I’m torn.
Being on a list doesn’t guarantee that you didn’t lose the item in the boating accident.
This is one of those cultural blind spots that I attribute directly to Hollywood. In many parts of Europe, suppressors are required to help reduce noise. No one in gov’t there believes that they turn your rifle into a silent death machine.
But in the USA, people have this idea that by putting a can on a gun, you can overcome physics and have a whisper-quiet bullet that knocks down moose at 500 yards or something.
There’s another interesting factoid. Because of the law, the silencers sold in the US tend to be more durable and longer lasting than those sold in Europe, because of the effort required each time, people want something that will stick around. When it’s just another wearing part, people will opt for whatever based on personal preference, with more opting for the cheaper construction for price reasons.
“Setting up a trust does nothing to keep me off the door-kickers’ list.”
I think it would help, but IANAL.
I heard that some people get so desperate for a suppressor that isn’t on the NFA list that they will illegally modify their guns so that they can put on a makeshift suppressor out of a slightly modified oil filter. I would never do that and certainly hope that nobody else will, as those common sense gun safety regulations were implemented by our wise leaders to keep us safe.
Fuck this dishonest, pencil-neck cunte.
Video: Amazing stuff as MSNBC’s Joy Reid and Adam Schiff say Republicans investigating a Biden administration would not only be obstruction, but a degradation of our democracy and waste of the people’s time.
OFFS!!
“Who didn’t see that coming” on their Biden Administration bingo cards?
What precisely is Joy Reid’s expertise in? Anything? She seems to be wrong about almost everything, constantly. Even things that other people of her political ilk get right. I do not get it.
What precisely is Joy Reid’s expertise in?
Melanin, genitalia, and shamelessness?
That is a great song.
When is too early to put the Christmas tree up? The gf is being relentless about wanting it up right now and so far I have put my foot down. Traditionally it doesn’t go up until after Thanksgiving and if I had my way it wouldn’t until December 1. She is wearing me down though.
Will assenting to her request result in oral and/or vaginal sex? If so, put it up.
Besides, why not be festive?
When is too early to put the Christmas tree up?
Any time before the Friday after Thanksgiving. This is not a difficult question.
And it comes down no later than New Year’s Day.
Agree with not putting it up until after Yankee Turkey Day.
Ours comes down after Epiphany.
No open flames allowed.
Dude, 12th night. you have to leave it up until 12th night.
I have a compromise with the Wife. We put it up after Halloween, and get a full “Christmas season” feel, and then she usually takes it down the day after Christmas.
Your gf is tacky, but you are being stubborn and should just cave .
I’m with Q. Don’t just cave. Do a deal.
My real/internal answer: It’s always too early. Just say no to Christmas.
My practical/I-have-to-live-in-this-culture answer: After Thanksgiving.
*Looks at handle.
*Reads comment
*Looks at handle again
Bah humbug. Also, Merry Christmas!
-_-
You know how many pine trees are unnecessarily slaughtered before Christmas?
Any time after Thanksgiving is fine, but I prefer the first weekend in December. Oral sex could change my mind though.
If she wants a tree up this early it better be artificial. No way in hell you can keep a real tree moist enough to not be an egregious fire hazard that long. Offer her that as a compromise.
it better be artificial
It is.
egregious fire hazard
Especially having cats that use it as a junglegym.
Stick to your guns. Don’t argue about it, though. Just do it the day you want, don’t say another word about it, and don’t make a big deal about it when it’s done.
When is too early to put the Christmas tree up? – any time before December 20th
FIFY
“Its a Christmas tree, not a December tree!”
Black Friday is the day to put up the tree. Earlier than that is too early.
That said, I have a 4 year old, and so we put up the small tree last weekend. And will probably put up the big tree this weekend.
If its a real tree, about Dec 23rd.
Christmas trees in our household go up on or after the First Sunday in Advent (November 29th this year) and come down on Epiphany (January 6th, a Wednesday next year). Since I was a little kid, that’s been my understanding of “the Christmas season.”
Ours are up, but we had the mitigating circumstance of the new baby. Didn’t want to deal with it while tending to a newborn.
That said, wife would put it up in early November anyway, if she could. I grew up doing it on Thanksgiving or black Friday, depending on what our Thanksgiving plans were. That’s tradition to me. It would come down during the rose bowl.
Sorta drunk. Think I’ll sleep on the Lazy-boy this morning. May all of your wonders never cease, Glibs.
How are your tits, Festus? Calm?
one is pierced the other tattooed
“ During a testy Sept. 23 Senate hearing, Paul repeatedly questioned Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert…”
I’m in an ongoing argument with a buddy who in the best of time is a “trust the experts!!” true believer. With COVID he has gone into full on religious fervor with it, which is not surprising, but sad for someone who is intelligent. Recently he learned about the Dunning-Kruger effect and now that has become in his mind “you can’t trust a single word what anyone has to say about the ‘Vid unless they are an epidemiologist. Oh and they can’t have a heterodox opinion on it from the one Most High and Exalted Epidemiologist. I’m seeing the same thing from the population at large in regards to lockdowns and masks, which I fear are only going to get shoved down our throats harder in the coming months. They aren’t going to give this shit up for years.
So he managed to get Dunning-Kroeger pretty much backwards?
Ask him what makes someone an epidemiologist. What are the qualifications, certifications, experience, etc.? Pro-tip – its not a board certified specialty. Fauchi trained as a primary care doctor, not an infectious disease specialist. I don’t think he ever treated a single patient. His training in medicine is decades out of date, and his experience is solely as an administrator. What, exactly, makes him an epidemiologist?
Ha! Thanks good retort. I had countered him with the Appeal to Authority Fallacy which he had apparently never heard of as it confused his “top men” act. The terrible thing is, he represents far far more of the thinking of the population than any kind of more skeptical take on the “wear masks all the time and shut down businesses” line of thinking.
Most people talking about D-K do exactly that (getting it backwards).
D-K does not indicate anything about trusting or not trusting experts. It indicates that a characteristic of actual expertise is humility
If we randomly selected a panel from qualified epidemiologists and listened to their suggestions, then he might have a point. But we don’t do that. We’re supposed to listen to the government apparatchiks. And they have an agenda, just like all government apparatchiks.
This should be painfully obvious when you think about what kind of person would be attracted to a job like Fauci’s.
Yup, I see many parallels between the Vid panic and our response to Global Warming and flight security post 9-11. “Listen to the experts” indeed. As long as they are employed by the government or almost totally reliant on Uncle Sugar for their grants.
Despite lack of understanding and reasoning ability my cat would give a better answer if asked about the situation because he would roll over and stretch in a big “meh” as a response.
You should also inform him that Dunning-Kruger has recently been called into question as being largely an artifact of the principle of regression, and that the actual results of their study have been badly misrepresented.
https://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2010/07/07/what-the-dunning-kruger-effect-is-and-isnt/
Thanks Mr F. Bookmarked for later. Time to go make dollah!
The anecdotal evidence for the Dunning-Kruger is overwhelming – the world is made for people not cursed with self-awareness.
“DOMINION.
“This image-cast evolution voting machine has the physical ability to mark votes onto the ballot after the last time the voter sees the ballot… and that’s a DISASTER. ”
Princeton comp. science prof Andrew Appel shreds Dominion voting systems. America was warned.”
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1326570329238626305
That is totally fucked.
Any election that uses those machines is a fraud. A special election with paper ballots filled out directly by the voters needs to be held everywhere those machines were used.
:gets on wet blanket attire:
As a Comp-Sci guy, i imagine he’s saying this in the “Their is a security flaw here because it, _can_ be done”. However how easily and if it was done is something else.
Mind you i understand the economics of the potential reward mean that barriers are probably little problem as you will “spare no expense” to become president. The fact that it is possible means it should be fixed. But it doesn’t mean there was fraud.
One also wonders why any ballot counting machine would have the capability of marking any votes on the ballot.
“But it doesn’t mean there was fraud.”
OK, epistemic arguments aside, if there wasn’t fraud then that means that people wouldn’t cheat to get rid of “literally Hitler”.
Knowing that they were going to cheat, is one explanation why Biden barely campaigned.
Nice little warning from Twatter there.
If they had any integrity, they’d flag it any time someone says “nobody wants to take your guns away” and link to a special information page showing the numerous times that prominent Democrats have explicitly called for gun confiscation.
Rwanda 2: East African Boogaloo?
The organization’s Crisis Evidence Lab has examined and digitally verified gruesome photographs and videos of bodies strewn across the town or being carried away on stretchers. It confirmed the images were recent and using satellite imagery, geolocated them to Mai-Kadra in western Tigray state (14.071008, 36.564681).
“We have confirmed the massacre of a very large number of civilians, who appear to have been day labourers in no way involved in the ongoing military offensive. This is a horrific tragedy whose true extent only time will tell as communication in Tigray remains shut down,” said Deprose Muchena, Amnesty International’s Director for East and Southern Africa…
While the official death toll in Mai-Kadra is not yet known, the Amhara regional government’s media agency AMMA reported there were around 500 victims, adding that they were primarily non-Tigrayan residents of the town. A man who is helping to clear the bodies from the streets told Amnesty International that he had looked at the state-issued identification cards of some victims, and most were Amhara.
Given whitness and colonialism are to blame, you are directly at fault for this so you need some introspection not jokes. Be better.
If capitalism didn’t already exist, and somebody suggested we all work under a guy for 40 hours a week while they make all the money and decisions, we’d beat the shit out of them.
https://twitter.com/GenZdemagogue/status/1326987794078642179
“The dumb motherfuckers in my mentions don’t understand that they’re calling for neofeudalism, and that workplaces can be run democratically.”
My biggest argument against this is trying to organize 12 people to go to the movies and to agree on a time and a movie
And, what happens to the person that has was supposed to buy the tickets for the group, doesn’t do it because they spent the money on weed, and then doesn’t show up at all? What’s the recourse?
In talking with a couple of friends that were semi-seriously considering the “democratic” workplace, I asked how people could be fired, and who would do it? Majority vote? Super-majority?
Pure democratic workplace is just a more realistic Survivor with ugly people.
And, what happens to the person that has was supposed to buy the tickets for the group, doesn’t do it because they spent the money on weed, and then doesn’t show up at all? What’s the recourse? – well usually we all showed up and a designated volunteer would get the money and wait in line while the others had beer.
workplaces can be run democratically
Ah, so we vote to put someone in charge and make the decisions, right? And then you have to go along, even if you disagree, right?
Yeah, Cal Berkeley tried this sort of thing in the 1960s under the rubric of “participatory democracy” and it didn’t work well.
No, there will be Unity. Or else.
““The dumb motherfuckers in my mentions don’t understand that they’re calling for neofeudalism, and that workplaces can be run democratically.”
My biggest argument against this is trying to organize 12 people to go to the movies and to agree on a time and a movie”
We already know what happens. Has everyone forgot CHOP already? You decide to grow your own food for everyone in the company. So free food is just another benefit of this. So a guy throws a plastic tarp on the ground and throws some dirt and seeds on it. An hour later another guy designates the trap as the performing arts area and stomps all over your seeds.
Property rights are not to keep people out from your property. It’s to keep people from eventually murdering everyone who stomps on the food supply.
while they make all the money
You get paid for performing tasks and your employment is voluntary.
It’s not voluntary because if i don’t work i’ll starve!!!
Reality’s a bitch.
Maybe this dipshit should go back to pre-capitalist times when you spent every waking hour slaving away on your farm (with no health insurance or maternity leave) and still barely made enough to survive, and when droughts, floods, or blights could push you over the precipice into starvation.
Look down in the replies. you will learn that hunter gatherers worked 4 hours every other day had everything they need and spent the rest of the time having sex and talking
Well, having sex, talking and dying. They did lots of dying.
Usually before age 35.
It’s like you people didn’t even read Clan of the Cave Bear
There is someone still living in his parent’s house.
This is a common refrain, and generally stems from one book that makes this claim.
You know that isn’t remotely true, because that makes settled agriculture a step down instead of a more reliable source of food. We’d never have started farming.
some blame beer for agriculture
Similarly, there’s a pretty good argument to be made that the red junglefowl was first captured and kept by humans (and not deliberately domesticated) because folks liked to watch the roosters fight.
The whole “hey these things are pretty good at hanging around the village making eggs and meat” thing came later.
Agriculture was needed for beer. So, in theory, cave man might have given up the hunter/gatherer ways in order to gain beer. But that means Beer+40 hours of work >> 4 hrs every other day + sex.
Which is entirely plausible.
That’s putting the two backwards. You’re not storing large amounts of grain as a gatherer. So there’s no accidental fermintation to learn from. It was the farmers who discovered beer, not the incentive to take up farming in the first place,
My money is on:
Hunter gatherer life allows a tribe to grow to size x, with percentage y of that tribe available for aggression against other tribes and defense against other tribes aggression.
Pastoral life allows a tribe to grow to size x+, and increases the percentage available for aggression/defense to y+
Agriculture allows x++ and y++.
Natural selection occurs once differences giving advantages develop, and soon hunter gatherers and nomads are relegated to isolated regions.
My money is on – you have money to bet this frivolously? you need to get taxed more
That’s putting the two backwards.
Yup. It was a joke, as is anyone believing the 4 hr BS.
I’m almost impressed that someone that stupid actually read a book.
“If capitalism didn’t already exist, and somebody suggested we all work under a guy for 40 hours a week while they make all the money and decisions, we’d beat the shit out of them.”
Talking like that is no way to get a $15 an hour minimum wage.
It’s the best way to get a $15 an Hour minimum wage, because such people will be unemployable and i won’t have to talk to them ever again.
They’ll all get positions at every company as part of the new diversity taskforce each company will be forced to hire. A company of say 50 employees will require 10 of those positions, and each of them will be given broad powers over every decision the company makes on a daily basis.
So, basically, they’re going to get to fix capitalism, good and hard.
“How I Hacked an Election | NYT – Opinion”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8eujrTyRRE
Crazy, ain’t it? Trump should create an election honesty task force looking at future elections and put Tulsi Gabbard in charge.
Paper ballot scanners can be hacked, too.
Yes, but the paper ballots can be hand counted to verify.
[Political] Science has spoken! America staggers toward authoritarianism. But not just the US, the GOP specifically. Nor is this some wacky Woke think-piece. It’s hard data, numbers, math.
Do you believe #Science?
Let’s watch science in action.
To start, how is the data generated? Expert opinion, of course! What better way to measure elusive concepts than to poll objective, dispassionate scientists?
Around the same time, the GOP became “more willing to incite violence.”
While empirical support of this claim is lacking, it is true, as WaPo claims, that some Trump supporters have committed acts of violence.
Democrats, as the data show, have remained firm in their disavowal of violence.
https://twitter.com/knrd_z/status/1327134729854967808
That’s sarcasm, right?
Yes, everyone knows the real violence comes not from the Donkey or the Elephant, but from the Hedgehog.
it is someone criticizing bullshit so yes
How is calling revered holy figures (in this case the Shia Imams) “bastards” a matter of “freedom of thought, intellectual challenge and humanity”?
I’d have personally ignored the post or spoke with him why it’s wrong, but insults in that cultural context are unethical.
It’s unfair to apply a blanket understanding of freedom of thought and then sacrifice the entire cultural context of a society at the altar of your personal view.
I’m taking a nuanced view – because that’s the only path forward for cohesion. How does your purity test help that?
https://twitter.com/sayyedkhandan/status/1326557524158451712
If Muslims can call the U.S. the “Great Satan”, and fundamentalists Protestants can call the Catholic Church the “Whore of Babylon”, and communists can call all religions “the opiate of the masses”, then I think you can survive having imams called bastards.
You can survive having imams called bastards. You may not survive calling imams bastards. That is why I refer to the imams of Iran as legitimate sodomizers of syphilitic camels.
Chris Hayes is a Worm
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1326918112160178178
Wanting to not be held in confinment because of people scared of the flu is “Taking the side of the virus”.
For all the people who talk about “Right side of history”, i don’t see how anyone will see the tyrannical power grabs as “the right side”.
I’ve begun asking the question: “Masks aside, if you weren’t hearing about the virus 24/7, and just looked around you in your community, would you know that there’s a pandemic going on?”
The fear and panic-driven actions we’re supposed to all agree on require that people be plugged into the mass media (of whatever form) on a near-continuous basis.
I don’t think that it will stop, but I hold out a small hope that people will begin to get decision/information/panic fatigue from all this and start just living their lives again.
“I’ve begun asking the question: “Masks aside, if you weren’t hearing about the virus 24/7, and just looked around you in your community, would you know that there’s a pandemic going on?”
I’ve asked the same question. And the answer is an emphatic ‘no’.
Remember when the left were going on and on about how great Fauci is and how Trump should be taking his advice?
Now Fauci says this will be over soon, just wear the masks and go about your business. So what do the left say? Fauci is a fruitcake! LOCK EVERY FUCKING THING DOWN NOW!
Aye, and even when I get an answer of “no,” it seems like some edge case 3 states away is cited as a reason to force another lockdown or continue wearing masks at all time.
Almost an irony for me: I refuse to participate in the theater, but I’m getting really depressed about the whole thing. Hard for me not to despair.
Is there a member of the left media that isn’t? They’re the fucking Borg.