397 Comments

  1. JG43

    First

    • JG43

      Where’s BroChedder?

      • Cy

        He isn’t usually conscious this early.

      • UnCivilServant

        He doesn’t wake up this early.

        And don’t encourage him.

      • straffinrun

        Benford’s law outed all his firsts as spam.

      • Count Potato

        LOL

      • Sensei

        Another LOL.

      • AlexinCT

        Third LOL…

  2. Atanarjuat

    Biden’s also expected to reinstate Critical Race Theory, forgive up to $50k of student loans, and back out of the Abraham Accords (according to speculative op-eds, to be fair). Geez, maybe I shouldn’t have voted 3rd party.

    • AlexinCT

      You think they wouldn’t have “found” enough ballots to cancel you not voting third party (and not for Biden) considering what is coming out now?

    • Rebel Scum

      forgive up to $50k of student loans

      Good thing I haven’t been paying for mine for months.

  3. Swiss Servator

    Grüezi Mitenand!

    I am guessing I missed a lot of Tom Brady Sad Face last night.

      • Swiss Servator

        Nice Dick Tracy jacket.

      • AlexinCT

        Was he wearing any pants under that monstrosity?

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        Depends?

      • AlexinCT

        Yikes.. If he needs that at his age he needs to stop eating the supposedly healthy crap he does…

  4. straffinrun

    Want me check the down ballot too? Ain’t no one got time for that.

    • leon

      I was paid by Biden, other bitches need to pony up if they want that vote

  5. Tejicano

    Hello Banjos. Late evening here and I’m checking in. Wondering about the political situation and whether the frog has been boiled or if it will be jumping out of the pan… and if I should be practicing my leaping skills.

  6. Atanarjuat

    It’s not immediately apparent to me that unsanctioning Venezuela and Iran are bad things, and the article says it might lead to Russia possibly quitting OPEC+. Why should I give a shit?

  7. leon

    Gulianni also said he had a bunch of shit with that Laptop

    • Tejicano

      It wouldn’t surprise me if he got a phone call from the DOJ explaining how exposed he is vis-a-vis the coming Biden, er, I mean the Pre-Harris administration.

    • Floridaman

      To be fair, there was stuff there. But like with the drone strikes during Obama’s term if the media refuses to talk about it, and the voter doesn’t learn about it did the bad thing even really happen?

      • gbob

        If a Vice presidents son falls on an underage hooker while smoking crack in a Chinese forest, and the media doesn’t report it, does he make a sound?

  8. straffinrun

    Keep an eye on the number of votes excluded as invalid.

    Keep an eye on the number of votes for the invalid.

    • Raven Nation

      About 140m+ last time I checked.

    • Atanarjuat

      We shouldn’t be letting gross people with legs that don’t work vote anyway.

      • AlexinCT

        Unless they vote for Biden? Was this another one of the things he told that Charlemagne guy when he told em you were not black if you voted for Trump?

    • Atanarjuat

      Oh you’re talking about Grandpa Biden.

  9. OBJ FRANKELSON

    Did I miss something? TMITE was calling Uncle Mushhead the “President Elect”. I assume it is them anointing themselves with the authority to call elections! But maybe something happened.

    • UnCivilServant

      He’s not. The media is trying to assert things that are not so.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        I figured as much. Cuntes.

      • kbolino

        Not only is he not, he can’t possibly be until December 14. No matter what happens in the state popular votes, the titles of President-elect and and Vice President-elect apply to those who have won the most electoral votes in the electoral college. The electoral college hasn’t met yet.

    • rhywun

      I don’t remember if they pulled that shit during the Bush-Gore brouhaha.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        Back then they were at least trying to keep the mask on. They have long since discarded it and tossed it in the trash.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        They did.

      • Count Potato

        Also, Bush and Gore weren’t all that different anyway.

      • AlexinCT

        They didn’t. Because back then they needed to keep the veneer of legitimacy and still could control the narrative without risk of exposure. So they played along and then threw a tantrum when it didn’t go their way. This time their was not way to keep the masses complacent without downright hiding the stories.

    • Tejicano

      Hell, they’re already parading the main objectives Harris has listed up for her turn at bat.

  10. robc

    This is like the Larry Correia article posted the other day. It is possible that 1/2 of those stories are completely bogus, but that leaves a lot of red flags left.

    I liked one part of what he said: 1 red flag is a mistake, 3 is because people are incompetent. A dozen red flags means someone is going to jail.

    • Tejicano

      And when it becomes obvious that they are not only going to be found out by the people in the government charged with finding and arresting them then this kind of vote creation becomes SOP for the democrats.

      • AlexinCT

        If they are not stopped here, we can kiss elections reflecting the will of the people (voters) goodbye. When these people promise that they plan to fundamentally change things, like Schumer just said he would if they manage to steal the senate in Georgia, we ignore them at our own peril. I figure people would learn after Obama, but most people seem to have a memory problem.

    • J. Frank Parnell

      A dozen red flags means someone nobody is going to jail and nothing else will happen and only right-wing nutcases will ever mention this again.

      FIFY

  11. The Late P Brooks

    So precious

    With 73 days left of the Trump presidency, CNN’s Chief Media Correspondent Brian Stelter turned off his notifications for Donald Trump’s tweets live on air Sunday during “Reliable Sources.”
    “I have a confession to make about the Trump tweets” said ABC’s Jon Karl, former president of the White House Correspondents Association. “I have turned off the notification on my phone for Trump tweets. …They’re less effective when there are so many and when they are filled with so much disinformation.”
    “Same here” said CNN political correspondent Abby Phillip, who was also a guest on the show.
    “I guess I’ll just go ahead and do it now, Jon, I’m going to follow your lead,” said Stelter, who took out his iPhone and adjusted his settings on air.

    These people are all going to disappear up their own assholes, one day, and it cannot happen soon enough.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      They seem to be oblivious to the fact that since they made themselves all Orange Outrage channel all the time. When there is no Orange Man that they have made themselves completely irrelevent . Same goes for Twitter, before Trump, that company was circling the drain, he was the only thing keeping them even marginally afloat. I Jack bans him as promised Twitter is done.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        They’d be doomed to go broke but they’ll get bailed out. No matter the outcome they win.

  12. Count Potato

    Good morning, Banjos

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Did I miss something? TMITE was calling Uncle Mushhead the “President Elect”. I assume it is them anointing themselves with the authority to call elections! But maybe something happened.

    It’ll be just like Obama’s third term.

    SQUEEEEEEEEE!

  14. Tonio

    I’d really like a more granular explanation about the Dominion voting machines and the software updates. Was this an update to the manufacturer’s software, ie the firmware? Or was this an update to the ballot template (probably not actual software, but again they aren’t being transparent) which is presumably created by the election officials because the ballots can be different in each precinct? And how did the flawed software (or template) get past the QC process in the first place?

    If the GOP were smart they’d focus the next four years on pushing through election transparency laws which they could brand as bi-partisan and which it would be difficult for the Democrats to publicly oppose.

    • leon

      Hard to oppose? All election transparency is voter suppression.

      Done. Easy.

      • dorvinion

        Its also racist

        Can’t forget that one

    • kbolino

      If the GOP were smart they’d focus the next four years on pushing through election transparency laws which they could brand as bi-partisan and which it would be difficult for the Democrats to publicly oppose.

      Between Pelosi keeping the bills from coming to a vote, and Biden/Harris trying to set the legislative agenda from the Oval Office, I don’t think they’d get the opportunity.

      Which probably suits most of them just fine.

    • db

      The time to have reformed our election processes for optimum transparency and accuracy would have been over the last four years. Or maybe every year since 2000.

      • kbolino

        Well, there’s a reason Florida didn’t fuck up this time. But most other states haven’t faced the same degree of scrutiny before.

  15. Drake

    Here’s another fraud link dump.

    I’m looking for a summary of what is actually happening. Sounds like GA and AZ will have automatic re-counts, hopefully with more adult supervision this time.

    • UnCivilServant

      If invalid votes have been comingled in with the valid votes, a recount might not be worth anything.

      • Drake

        In Michigan, if the number of ballots stored in containers in case of a recount did not match tallies given by voting machine printout report – that precinct is thrown out and not counted at all. Michigan recount in 2016 invalidated votes from 60% of Detroit.

        https://gab.com/Nocaster/posts/105159209749017625

      • leon

        Meh. That’s nothing a Fed Judge couldn’t fix.

      • dorvinion

        To me, such a rule ought to apply to ballots received before election day as well.

        Whatever facility is receiving them needs keep a ledger of tamper resistant containers and how many ballots are contained within.
        As you can’t trust the partisan officials, the counts need to have witnesses from the party representatives.

        When you start counting, the number in the box ought to match the number that the voting machine counts.

        The ledger needs to confirmed as authentic by a hash. Sort of like how Git logs commits.
        Actually, they could use a public github like service to record this info. If anyone were to change a recorded value, the hashes would prove that something is incorrect.

      • leon

        You would see SHA-256 cracked in five weeks

  16. The Late P Brooks

    SCIENCE triumphant

    President-elect Joe Biden’s transition team announced the group of public health experts that will make up his coronavirus advisory board, which includes Rick Bright, a whistleblower from the Trump administration who alleged that his early warnings about the pandemic were ignored and ultimately led to his removal.
    The inclusion of Bright, who said that he was met with skepticism by Trump administration officials when he raised concerns in the early throes of the pandemic about critical supplies shortages, is a clear signal of the contrasted direction that Biden intends to take his administration when it comes to dealing with the pandemic.
    Revealing the members of the pandemic task force is the transition’s first major announcement, highlighting how important the President-elect finds combating the deadly virus which has taken more than 230,000 lives in the United States. The announcement also comes as the nation nears 10 million cases, with over 9.9 million reported cases as of Sunday evening, according to Johns Hopkins University data.
    The task force is chaired by former Surgeon General Vivek Murthy, former Food and Drug Administration commissioner David Kessler and Yale University’s Dr. Marcella Nunez-Smith. Among the other thirteen members are Dr. Luciana Borio, a senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations and Dr. Zeke Emanuel, one of the architects of the Affordable Care Act and an ex-Obama health adviser.

    That virus doesn’t stand a chance.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Will they be wearing capes?

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        Yes. Fabulous capes!

      • juris imprudent

        Cowl, cape AND mask.

    • AlexinCT

      Interesting how suddenly COVID no longer is the end times virus now that they think they can fool people into thinking Biden won and we finally, after 4 years of them throwing tantrums, unite and heal (with them in power, of course)…

      • Seguin

        Pfizer just announced their vaccine was 90% effective. Such timing, so wow.

      • Agent Cooper

        They hinted at the timeline in a September call I believe. They were awaiting some results other than the election ones. It really doesn’t behoove Pfizer to care who is in office if they can get credit for the first and most effective vaccine.

    • kbolino

      He’s not “President-elect”, the electoral college hasn’t met yet. He’s still plain old Joe Biden.

  17. DrOtto

    Back in the old days, they knew you had to mix in some votes for the opponents. That includes green party, libertarians and Kayne. Their outright greed is what got them caught. Now, the question is, is anything going to be done about it, or do we incorporate a banana into our flag design?

    • Sean

      The margin was too big. Which means the fraud was too over the top to be believable.

      4 more years.

      • Drake

        Exactly – they weren’t playing around at the margins, they were reversing landslides in PA, WI, and MI. Counting a few thousand votes in Biden’s favor wouldn’t have made a dent. At one point in PA, Trump was up 700,000 votes.

      • Count Potato

        Most of that can be explained by mail-in ballots though.

        What can’t be explained is that it took them until Saturday morning.

      • Drake

        The explanation is fraud.

      • mrfamous

        When Trump was up 700,000 votes, about 50% of Philadelphia county was in and Biden had gotten 73% of the votes there, his best county. I said at the time that it seemed mathematically impossible for Biden to win Pennsylvania.

        Biden got something like 85% of the remaining votes from that point on from all remaining counties, not just Philadelphia. If he only had gotten 80%, he loses the state.

        Whether that’s possible or not, and whether mail in balloting was that skewed, it’s very hard to argue that it doesn’t at least raise an eyebrow or two.

        If we want to people to trust elections, we’re going to have to fix ballot chain of custody issues somehow.

      • AlexinCT

        Like the people that want to steal elections have any interest in making that happen ever…

    • Cy

      Not one vote for Mike Hunt. Fucking amateur hour.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        Or Jack Meoff. I am dissapoint.

    • Tejicano

      Color me wingnut but I see this as not naivete but aggressively entitled in believing that they have full license to not even care about the old rules. They believe that the new order will protect them and they will not face the slightest repercussion over this. At this point I would put down money that they are correct – as fucked up as that is.

      • DrOtto

        Show me a Trump only tranche, and I’d buy that. Every single instance of irregularity skews only one way.

    • hayeksplosives

      It worked for Sen Al Franken. 1000 “found” ballots all marked for Franken in 2008. Didn’t bother voting for President Obama, just Senator Franken.

      Franken “won” the recount. No questions.

      • AlexinCT

        I actually had some Minnesoda progs tell me this was not true, and even if it was, so what?

  18. Atanarjuat

    I’m pretty dumb generally, as well as ignorant of tech stuff, but shouldn’t we all be able to log in and check our votes? Like say there were 82,417 votes for Jorgensen in FL and mine was #32,987. I should be able to see proof that it is still there. Yeah, this could be used politicians to go after political foes, but according to their own propaganda that never happens.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Trusting your vote to software is a ginormous mistake. It’s a huge invitation to fraud, and huge invitations to fraud do not go unnoticed nor are they not exploited.

      • leon

        The United States is too big, population wise, to hold a legitimate election for president.

        Maybe if the house seats were sized back down to 30,000 per, you could see more honest house elections.

      • EvilSheldon

        Ehh. It’s entirely possible to build a software system that is as fraud-resistant as the people who are running it. Whether it’s an electronic balloting system or hand-written ballots in a box, the honestly of the system administrators is the key factor.

        Given that humans are imperfect and so is any system that humans build, it would make sense that any election within X% of parity should go to an alternate means of selection. Maybe a recount, maybe The Day of the Bloody Fists.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The incentives are not there.

        Any voting system has to have a rock-solid auditing trail that includes paper ballots, signatures, and severe penalties for fraud. Software can be used to expedite results but never as a first line of defense against cheating.

      • AlexinCT

        Ehh. It’s entirely possible to build a software system that is as fraud-resistant as the people who are running it. Whether it’s an electronic balloting system or hand-written ballots in a box, the honestly of the system administrators is the key factor.

        So much this…

        Which is why Stalin was correct when he pointed out that the votes didn’t matter as much as the vote counters…

        Anyone surprised that the party that thinks people like Stalin (and Mao and other butchers) were on the right track with their social justice political system, actually follows that “the vote-counting is what matters” precedent?

      • Agent Cooper

        Would blockchain be a possible digital solution?

      • kinnath

        No,

        I have an article bouncing around me head that I need to write, but the answer will always be physical ballots and how they are managed.

        There is a lot of existing technology that can help (digital signatures, bar-codes/QR-codes, optical scanners, etc) and can be applied directly to keeping track of when physical ballots enter the system and when they get counted.

        Pure software solutions will fail utterly (won’t waste the time to get the link to XKCD’s comic on software voting systems).

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I have an article sitting in wait for when I have enough time to get it all out of my head, as well. The gist is that computers are useful as support tools, but without an actual piece of paper (AND a receipt to take home), the gains are marginal.

    • EvilSheldon

      You actually put your finger on a very important problem. There’s no way to have a truly fraud-proof election system without having some kind of publicly available record of voters and their votes.

      • robc

        Small precincts who meet at the same time to vote and count the votes while everyone is present.

        Of course, with too small of precincts, you are going to get ones with 100% D voters in some areas (and maybe 100% R in others?) in which cheating could happen. So you have to balance size with ability of having enough election officials of multiple parties to cover it all.

        BUT, since my idea is to have maybe a 1/2 dozen precincts at the same location voting in 2 hour blocks over the course of the day, that means you only need an official for each 6 precincts.

        And that gives me an idea for a ballot access law: Statewide access to the ballot if you can provide a worker for each precinct (maybe some sort of threshold like 98%, because people get sick). For a smaller race, easy access if you can provide a worker for every precinct in the district. Otherwise, you have to go the signature route.

      • Count Potato

        In many states you can go online and see who voted.

      • EvilSheldon

        That would be a start. Particularly if the vote/no-vote record was linked to a pseudo-random UID generated by the voting machine at time of casting.

        Still, you’re going to have admins running the system, and you need to be able to trust them.

      • db

        You can see who signed the signature book at the poll location. You can’t verify their vote made it into the count.

  19. Tundra

    Good morning, Banjos!

    Thanks for the Pennywise. My blood is up, now!

    Have a great day, people! I can’t fucking well do it for you!

  20. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Today in stupid shit my Facederp friends (in this case a 52 year old grown-ass man) say:

    *mild paraphrasing*

    “I think it’s unfair how the GOP took advantage of Hunter’s struggles with addiction and his attempts to earn a living to try to swing the election. It’s good to see him up on stage with his father. Hopefully, he gets the help he needs.”

    My response:

    “So if a laptop from Don Jr. suddenly showed up that had photos him smoking crack, pics of naked and allegedly underage girls, and emails showing secret meetings and financial transactions between Ukrainian oligarchs, Chinese party officials and his father all of which corroborated by Don Jr’s business partner, you be cool with that? Good to know.”

    • Cy

      The laptop from hell is just another of the many egregious modern media coverups. Last night I searched for any new news articles on it. The only thing that came up was ‘fact checks’ about how it’s a fraud from major news orgs. If someone started parking large amounts of fertilizer in their basement, i wouldn’t feel bad.

      • Cy

        Fine… I’d feel bad. But don’t expect me to act surprised.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Driving home yesterday I listened to a couple podcasts that I read about in an article that was extolling people who are breaking away from the MSM pack. This one was Blocked and {something} (sorry I can’t remember what the something was and I’m too lazy to look it up, it has Katie Herzog in it).

        Anyhow, they “covered” the laptop and decided that the coverup was really bad, but that the actual story was a big nothing burger. Why? Because a) all those Ukranian oligarchs have long names and it is hard to follow the story and b) the email only said “thanks for the opportunity to meet your father”. Opportunity isn’t the same as actually meeting him. Case closed.

        They have an episode with Elizabeth Nolan Brown that I will hate listen to, then that podcast is going into the delete bin.

      • cyto

        That was the consensus among all the libertarian writers I listened to.

        I love this turn of phrase. They all said that the bidens were guilty of trading on the family name. Which they opined was gross.

        The amount of mental gymnastics required to acknowledge that they traded on the family name to get rich yet still deny that Biden was on the take is astonishing. That is what trading on your family name means. Nobody likes words that much. Nobody pays tens of millions of dollars so they can have somebody named Biden hanging around. You can go find a Biden for $9 an hour.

        If some 27-year-old kid is trading on his father’s name in Hollywood, that means his dad is a big producer and all of the people who are giving him opportunities are sucking up to his dad hoping that they will get work from the suck up. That is trading on the family name.

        Joe Biden having his son trade on the family name means that people thought they were getting something for their money. And the only thing there was to get was influence with Daddy. Whether that means they got explicit guarantees or simply preferred access doesn’t change the calculus that much.

        But we have Biden’s own direct testimony. His braggadocio about getting a prosecutor fired is damning. I have yet to hear a single person come up with one instance in the entire history of the United States where such a senior government official went to the mat to get such a junior government official fired. Particularly in such an irrelevant location as Ukraine. a country that we could not be bothered to defend as Russia took a significant portion of their territory.

        That’s as much of a confession as you were ever going to hear. Absent a recording device in the room when the deal goes down, you could never get as much. In fact, they probably are never totally explicit about what money is being exchanged for what favors. Why would they be?

        Libertarian writers are the dumbest bunch in the pack this election, because they theoretically did not have a dog in the fight. And yet they went to such extraordinary links to justify such an idiotic rationalization.

        We are on the precipice of electing a guy who participated in using the tools of state to go after a political rival. Worse, he used the full power of the government against private citizens like General Flynn. He was explicitly involved in setting the guy up to go to jail simply for being a Trump associate.

        Worse still, as the years rolled on, he never said a word. As Flynn lost his house, his life savings, and his freedom, Biden never spoke up and told what he knew. As impeachment rolled forward in the house, by the never stepped up and told us that he knew for a fact that it was all a lie because he was involved in creating the lie. He let the country nearly be torn asunder, knowing all the while that it was over a lie.

        The fact that a libertarian press turns a blind eye to something that astonishing is, …..is…… Is…. Sad. Horrifying. Maddening. Dissapointing. Pathetic…..

      • Aloysious

        Once again, cyto, well said. Thanks for your thoughts.

      • R C Dean

        Absent a recording device in the room when the deal goes down, you could never get as much. In fact, they probably are never totally explicit about what money is being exchanged for what favors. Why would they be?

        The publicly known facts are more than enough to support a jury verdict on bribery and money laundering. Certainly enough for an indictment, to give the Biden Crew an opportunity to explain the otherwise inexplicable.

    • EvilSheldon

      Excellent comparison, but I think you’re probably wasting time trying to shame the shameless.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’m having a hard time ignoring the hypocrisy, particularly when they’re so gleefully partisan. For the record, I do try to pop bubbles from the wingnuts on occasion, just as of late they’re haven’t been nearly as many by comparison.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        *mentally pictures scruffy bailing out the Titanic with a coffee mug*

        Keep fighting the good fight, you poor, magnificent bastard!

      • EvilSheldon

        One of the side effects of having your brain drowned in Critical Theory is that it confers a complete immunity to hypocrisy. The whole idea of ‘everyone has to play by the same rules,’ gets rejected out of hand.

  21. l0b0t

    OMG!!! ELEVENTY!!!! Which one of you linked Lisa LeBlanc singing Aujourd’hui, ma vie c’est d’la marde yesterday? Whom do I thank? I am head-over-heels for her; she is fantastic. I would study hard and learn the silly joual just to hang out with her.

    • Tres Cool

      That would be me.

      She has a thicnezz that I can appreciate, not to mention that song.

      • Tres Cool

        Here- have another version.

        I like dem upper arms of hers, and the way her bingo-wigs gently flap. Yup, checks nearly all the boxes, but she could stand to put on a couple of pounds.

      • l0b0t

        Thank you very much. Man oh man, that voice of hers. I want to stay up all night with her, drinking whiskey and making bad decisions.

  22. Drake

    Notice which states we aren’t talking about? The two states that had voting problems in the past and tightened up their rules.

    Isn’t it crazy how Ohio and Florida, the states with rigid measures to counter Absentee Ballot fraud after their problems in 2004 and 2000… are ALSO the ones Trump won by a massive margin, and no magic 4am ballots emerged to overturn his lead?

    • Nephilium

      How fucked up is your state when you have to look at Ohio and Florida to lead the way?

      • robc

        eh…it works that way in football too.

      • Drake

        I think many people in FL were genuinely embarrassed by the fiasco in 2000 and sought to fix it.

        The Democrats who currently run PA have no shame and purposely fucked-up their counting process to allow cheating.

      • robc

        And Florida wasn’t so much fraud (although some of that too) as much as just poor ballot design.

      • Drake

        Some – although when they started recounting in just one county, they were obviously messing with them.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    The margin was too big. Which means the fraud was too over the top to be believable.

    Never steal anything small.

  24. leon

    Remember how two weeks ago it was the Dems losing their minds about an illegitimate SCOTUS nominee?

    • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

      In some ways this is more worrisome than the apparent fraud. I do not want to draw a false equivalency because I do see a number of ways in which the left is less honest and self critical than the right BUT we have reached a state where the two sides have completely separate information bubbles. This has created a situation where the two sides not only do not share a common vision of what the country should aspire to be, but do not even share a common understanding of, and knowledge of recent events.

      It is no longer yeah our guy did x, but what about when your guy did y? It has become what x? I never heard about x and it must be an insane conspiracy theory created to distract from y. What y? I never heard about y, it must be an insane conspiracy theory to distract from x.

      This is a very dangerous trend.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      More than good enough. The only question is how safe is it, particularly for groups (like children) that have almost zero risk from COVID.

      • leon

        Safe enough to mandate! / Biden

      • robc

        My daughter will not be getting it. I am not giving her the shingles vaccine either…she can get it herself at 50 like I did.

    • LJW

      The other 10% gained super powers.*crosses fingers* Come on x-ray vision!

      • robc

        Not sure which of those is the worst superhero.

      • Nephilium

        Those are all villains. And the obvious worst superhero is Rusty Venture.

    • Atanarjuat

      No idea if true, but somebody was saying they intentionally waited until after the election to release the news.

      • Charlie Suet

        There’s a lot of rumours flying around. Though the Heir Apparent did loudly say that she wouldn’t trust a vaccine developed under Trump.

        The interesting thing is the claim that everything bad about the US Covid response is due to OMB, but this has nothing to do with him, somehow.

      • Not Adahn

        Though the Heir Apparent did loudly say that she wouldn’t trust a vaccine developed under Trump.

        As did Ceasear Andy.

      • Agent Cooper

        Such a dumb, unnecessary move but they’ll never be called on it, so it doesn’t matter.

  25. Drake

    Is Michigan done “counting” votes? The Trump team should be requesting a recount immediately – he’d probably win, here’s why.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Additionally, 59 percent of precincts in Detroit were ineligible for recount, as the number of ballots stored in containers in case of a recount did not match tallies given by voting machine printout reports.

      Is this true? That’s YUUUUUGE.

      • AlexinCT

        THERE IS NO WIDE SPREAD FRAUD GOING ON!….

        /dnc operatives with bylines

        The fact that it the fraud is targeted, and not widespread, doesn’t stop the fact that it is fraud, but the media sure as hall knows how to manipulate language to hide the truth that is inconvenient to them..

  26. The Late P Brooks

    Trusting your vote to software is a ginormous mistake.

    That’s what i suspect. It’s one thing to run a boiler room operation of college kids physically filling out ballots. Running some sort of “find/replace” program is easy.

    • C. Anacreon

      Safe vote repair,
      Safe vote replace.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      By the way, I saw BL in the Biggs link but this is another source.

  27. Plisade

    Mornin Banjos. Thanks for the fraud links. I’ve been happily sharing them.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    23,000:0 seems like a statistically unlikely ratio.

    Not when one candidate is universally despised.

    • Count Potato

      “Facebook continues to allow countless Anarcho-communist factions of the Antifa group to proliferate across its pages”

    • Cy

      Land of the Free!*

      *Some restrictions may apply.

    • Count Potato

      “‘Stop the Steal’ had a soaring membership when Mark Zuckerberg’s staffers moved in to wipe it out, citing ‘worrying calls for violence from some members.’

      One post had said: ‘Time to clean the guns, time to hit the streets,’ while another was of a cartoon figure holding a machete with the caption: ‘I reckon I’ve had enough of this sh*t.’

      None of the posts came from the administrators of the group, but they were enough to push Facebook into taking what it called ‘exceptional measures.’

      The group was entirely eradicated because it was ‘creating real-world events.’

      Regarding its ban of ‘Stop the Steal,’ Facebook said: ‘In line with the exceptional measures that we are taking during this period of heightened tension, we have removed the Group ‘Stop the Steal,’ which was creating real-world events.

      ‘The group was organized around the delegitimization of the election process, and we saw worrying calls for violence from some members of the group.'”

    • Count Potato

      “Imran Ahmed, CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which pressured Facebook to take down the group, said while it’s true that all this seems like a game of whack-a-mole, the moles are slowly learning their lesson.

      ‘By taking out the largest one, it sent a message to others,’ he said.

      ‘There is a systemic issue with Facebook groups being exploited by people spreading misinformation, hate and inciting violence,’ he said.”

      • Surly Knott

        How many dictators in the Middle East feel the same way?
        The blatant one-sided-ness of this is ludicrous.

      • Tres Cool

        “The Center for Countering Digital Hate”?

        Buddha H. Koresh….I need to start one of these phony-baloney “think tanks” and soak the FedGov, States, and municipalities for “funding”.

    • Atanarjuat

      Stop the Steal is obviously more significant at this time but as a side note they also removed Dave Smith’s podcast private group (after censoring many of the posts in the last few months). Of course he will start a page on locals or some other site.

  29. Rufus the Monocled

    Re vaccine. Oh dear me the irony of Biden possibly winning.

    But I gotta tell ya, it just doesn’t feel like he is. There’s still 80 EV up for grabs that the media just declared belong to Biden. It’s premature to concede or accept victory. I guess the media/DNC figured call victory and start pressuring Trump to concede. They even sent that piece of shit moron Romney to do so for the GOP. Man, I knew the GOP were spineless twerps but they’re tipping their hand as wanting to revert back to how things were.

    Trump should contest. It’s a no-brainer about what’s going on.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s a full-court press to get him to capitulate. Fuck them. If they win this without a fight, you can kiss any hopes of anything even slightly resembling fair elections goodbye forever.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        No effing way should he capitulate to two natural born losers in Biden and Harris. Biden has already said he will rejoin Paris Accords – hello PA! – and reverse America First policies. I’m telling ya, these two are going to be worse than anything Hilary could do.

  30. zwak

    Gooood morning everyone!

    So, gunshots on my street on Saturday, and I live in the nice part of town. This is going to be a glorious four years, no matter who gets pulled over the finish line.

  31. Rufus the Monocled

    Apparently, WI was going hard red before ‘The Mystery’ kicked in.

    • Count Potato

      Again, much of that can be explained by mail-in ballots.

  32. Rufus the Monocled

    Sounds like Blagojevich is one scorned Democrat.

    In case some of you wondering, Reason is pretending to be reasoned and ignoring the potential that fraud occurred.

    Fraud is rare maybe because no one bothered to actually confront it. Now it’s being confronted in a manner I’ve never seen.

  33. Rufus the Monocled

    Re the BBC advice article. That’s what they’re finding in Wisconsin. Apparently voter turn out increased by as much as 20%? Yeh. Sssssure.

  34. leon

    Something none election to mull over.

    More and more lately, I’ve seen the left bring up “both-sides-ism”. This is usually in reference to the media presenting an argument given by the right. They decry this as a mistake by legitimizing what they regard as illegitimate arguments.

    Is this a factor of the left feeling like they have lost control of the overton window, or that they feel that they have such total control that they can label anything pushing towards the right as outside It.

    I think the former. See the vitriol towards Bob standard news sources.

  35. Scruffy Nerfherder

    At least somebody in the LP gets it:

    https://reason.com/video/2020/11/08/whats-next-for-the-libertarian-party-after-jo-jorgensen-got-1/

    “I think that when you try to water down your messaging to appeal to everyone, you sort of appeal to no one,” says Angela McArdle, who is chair of the Los Angeles Libertarian Party and who plans to run for chair of the national party in 2022.

    She’s affiliated with the Mises Caucus, which believes libertarians have been far too willing to compromise their principles and water down their rhetoric to make alliances with the political left or right. They reject the “need to make Faustian bargains” in the interest of gaining mainstream acceptance.

    While she criticizes aspects of the Jorgensen campaign, McArdle thinks it began the necessary process of recalibrating the party, which she says should be less Gary Johnson and more Ron Paul.

    “When you look at the general composition of the liberty movement⁠—not just the Libertarian Party⁠—it looks a lot more like Ron Paul than it does Gary Johnson. And I don’t know a lot of libertarians who tell me that they were inspired by Gary Johnson,” says McArdle, who believes the best use of the national party is to inspire activists to get involved with the state and local parties, where candidates have a better shot of actually winning.

    • leon

      McArdle is a good egg

  36. Semi-Spartan Dad

    Question: What are some decent websites to get news from? It looks like WSJ and Fox have both been skin suited. PJ Media seems okay but there’s very little content. I liked watching Crowder on election night, but seems like mostly a YouTube podcast format.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      OANN? WSJ editorial is still good, like Strassel, McGurn, Riley.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Newsmax seems OK but I haven’t done a deep dive. Malkin and people with similar viewpoints similar people are on there.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Yeesh, I flubbed the wording on that one.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Is Daily Caller the one Tucker Carlson started?

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      Thanks everyone for the suggestions

    • KSuellington

      RealClearPolitics is pretty good (and they still haven’t called the election which I admire).

  37. leon

    Daughter had a nightmare and crawled into bed this morning and snuggled.

    Remember what is good and important in life.

  38. Count Potato

    Weren’t there a bunch of recounts after Hillary lost?

    • UnCivilServant

      They kept turning up more Trump votes, so they got stopped.

  39. Certified Public Asshat

    Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin are just about the only major world leaders who haven't yet congratulated Joe Biden on his victory.— Robert Reich (@RBReich) November 8, 2020

    No one told the little guy to drop the Russia bullshit.

    • leon

      All’s fair in love and war and all, but I seem to remember a certain person telling Biden to not concede under any circumstances.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Believe me, there are plenty on the left that still buy into it, along with the Charlottesville lie.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Yep, it’s a religion of sorts and facts to the contrary of the desired narrative are summarily disregarded.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Lol.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Neither has the Mexican president FWIW. And the low-life parenting to be a leader here was kinda measured in his congratulatory message.

  40. Pope Jimbo

    I spent the entire weekend hunting with family and didn’t pay a bit of attention to the news. It was fantastic.

    I shot a big doe and my sons shot a button buck and a nice 5 pointer. We had all the venison processed by 2:30 yesterday. The only thing that sucked was that the stupid Vikings forgot to tank and beat the Lions. How do we get a chance to draft that kid from Clemson if we can’t lose to the lowly Lions?

  41. UnCivilServant

    Why is it I am most distraught demoralized over a cleaning job when it is nearly done? That seems like the strangest time to despair.

    • UnCivilServant

      Well, my desk is past 90% cleared.

      The floor around it… not so much

  42. Rufus the Monocled

    From BBC: “Delay in announcing results”

    Word.

    Makes no sense NV is still counting.

  43. Ayn Random Variation

    So I sign on this morning and see an email from the head of our Diversity committee, a big guy in the company. The email is hailing the great diversity and historic election blah blah.
    We are all to come together in harmony after enduring the unfortunate events of the last few years.
    Diversity makes America great again.
    …..an average local man becomes president with the largest popular vote in our history.

    Are these assholes trying to start a war?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      “My politics are not this company’s business.”

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        “You’re fired”

        Not that what you said shouldn’t be the case but be careful.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Depending on the state, that could be an extremely profitable lawsuit.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        This. They will gladly brand you a heretic for expressing this sentiment. The whole point of I&D and wokeness is to conquer the corporate environment for the left.

    • Sean

      Are these assholes trying to start a war?

      Yes.

    • Charlie Suet

      It’s weird that compulsory sensitivity training has increased in importance in the workplace exactly as the old idea of not bringing politics into work has been abandoned.

      It’s just bad business and I don’t understand it. For years it was “the customer is not an idiot” and “remember Gerald Ratner”. Now everyone seems to think they can insult and bully customers and employees and they’ll be too powerless to walk away.

      • l0b0t

        Is that the Ratner who created Fly-Pel and D-Con? The Ratner who paid for his very first media buy by selling his car for $4000? He was a bloody genius.

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        Hey, Friend! Thanks for your kind words. Means a lot to me.

      • l0b0t

        you’re welcome and I mean it, I’m proud to know you.

    • AlexinCT

      It has not escaped me how after 4 shitstorm level years of accusing everyone that didn’t belong to their tribe of being racists, misogynists, transphobic, asshats, plain evil, that they will resist an illegitimated guy (only illegitimated because the dude won an election they thought had been rigged for one of the most corrupt and evil hags ever to walk this earth), and so on, name calling an tantrum throwing all the time, not just refusing to let the guy do the job, but actually undermining him at every corner and even trying to run a coup, that now that they have gained power, they are acting all like graceful and noble people and telling we should come together and heal…

      Fuck that shit…

  44. The Late P Brooks

    Let the worshipful tongue baths commence

    In recent years, that affinity for the center nearly toppled Biden. In 2008, when he launched his second run at the party’s nomination — his first came in 1988 — voters quickly cast him aside in favor of a man almost two decades younger, Barack Obama. Earlier in this campaign cycle, his rivals in the party primaries branded his approach anachronistic and naïve.

    He was derided as a 77-year-old throwback, a clueless Beltway insider and two-time presidential campaign loser.

    But Biden placed a bet that the years of patient consensus building, the lessons he learned from his many missteps, and the personal tragedies that shaped his signature empathy would appeal to millions of voters exhausted by four years of partisan warring and White House chaos.

    In particular, he and his advisors believed his centrist style would allow him to win back voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, the three “blue wall” states that Trump had won in 2016 which became a singular focus of Biden’s campaign.

    Now that he’s won, he’s betting again — this time that his approach will allow him to pull the nation together after the crisis-riddled Trump era.

    What they yearned for more than anything was to be able to idolize their President. At last they have a savior in the Oval Office again.

    The hole in their hearts has been filled.

    • leon

      Politics is a mental health issue. Far too many people have their happiness dependent on the outcome of the election.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Eight years of Obama was quite tiresome, and I was open-minded about him at first.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Political fandom, and that’s what this has become, is just sports fandom for douchebags. Of all of the people who vote for any side only about a quarter of the people tops have even a vague idea of what’s going on.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        ?

      • leon

        Like I’ve said for a while. Being a political junkie is the same as being a Kardashians fan, but political junkies think they are better than you

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I am utterly uninterested in sports, as they take no interest in me, but some people inherit political proclivities just as they grow up in a Bears or UMich household.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Empathy is his signature?

    • Cy

      *martyr

      No, I’m not saying anyone is going to kill him.

      He won’t last long as the President. He’ll either get some sympathetic media tongue bath for being senile/Alzheimer or he’ll just pass away in his sleep. Because let’s face it, HE’S REALLY OLD!

      He will never have to see any repercussions for the crimes him and his family have committed.

  45. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I have the distinct feeling that the Dems are going to do something drastic very soon. There’s simply too much at stake now.

    Assuming that they committed significant fraud, they’re not only looking at a loss if it’s proven, but blowback.

    Half the country is not on board with this crap. They’ve watched the Dems allow their cities to burn for months and assume that’s what they intend to do to them as well.

    • Count Potato

      “I have the distinct feeling that the Dems are going to do something drastic very soon.”

      Such as what?

      “Assuming that they committed significant fraud, they’re not only looking at a loss if it’s proven, but blowback.”

      As far as I can tell, most of them either think they won fairly or will get away with it.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I don’t have a fucking clue, but from my perspective, they’re like cornered rats.

        Let’s hope their confidence holds out and they get trampled.

      • Drake

        It’s beyond that. Everyone who isn’t willfully ignorant knows that election as it currently stands was the result of massive cheating.

        What the Dems want is everyone to be forced to say an Orwellian lie and pretend to believe it. They not only want the power, they want to rub our faces in the shit.

      • Rebel Scum

        And they have the propaganda machine for it. Every channel I get (no cable) carried the Biden/Harris “victory” rally.

      • R C Dean

        Such as what?

        Obvious election fraud?

        Oh, wait, you mean after they take control of DC.

        While past performance is no guarantee, etc., assuming they accuse their enemies of every bad thing they have been doing . . . .

        (1) Non-leftists/gun owners accused of committing/plotting political violence. Lefty gun control wishlist passes.

        (2) Republicans accused of electio tampering/vote suppression. Mandatory universal mail-in balloting passes. Elections are Just Too Important to rely on political parties to monitor, so federal election reform places all monitoring of elections in the hands of Selfless and Totally Not Biased At All Public Servants.

        (3) Republicans accused of packing the courts, so Trump-appointed judges are impeached and removed and the Supreme Court is expanded to “preserve balance” in the form of an unassailable leftist majority.

  46. Rebel Scum

    Sidney Powell claims there are 450,000 ballots that voted only for Biden, left the rest blank

    Nothing to see here. Move along. It is time for unity, truth and reconciliation.

    Also I need the names and addresses of anyone that even tacitly supported Bad Orange Man. Not for any particular purpose. They just need to be, um, dealt with.

    • Pope Jimbo

      How many ballots were cast with only Trump selected?

      If you want me to believe that people only vote for the race they care about (I actually happen to be one of those people who may only vote in one or two races), I would think that there need to be 400K ballots with only Trump on them.

      • Viking1865

        The one article I saw was looking at PA specifically. He said there’s actually a decent chunk of Trump/Dem House ballots. But there are not, contrary to the endless propaganda, a corresponding number of Biden Republicans.

        In VA CD 1 that is a R+8 district, Trump and the R Congressman both got 257,000 votes. They are within 700 total votes of each other.

        Biden got 275,000 votes, the Dem Congressman got 180,000. So there’s nearly 90,000 people in this race who only voted for Biden.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Similar in the Michigan statewide numbers of president vs senator. The Republican delta was 1/10 of the Democrats’.

        https://mielections.us/election/results/2020GEN_CENR.html

        Although interestingly there is a reverse of the three minor parties (not including Libertarians because they didn’t have a senate candidate). 4x delta in favor of the senate candidate.

      • R C Dean

        The pattern is puzzling. Assuming a fair number of Repubs hated Trump and wouldn’t vote for him, would they cast Biden-only ballots in such large numbers? Would they split their vote and vote Biden and Repub down-ballot? The latter seems odd since the number of down-ballot Repub votes and Trump votes track pretty closely.

        Its Occam’s Razor time. Which is the simplest explanation for these anomalies? Widespread fraud in Dem-controlled cities, or a pattern of voting which seems highly unlikely – there is a large number of anti-Trump Repubs that voted for Biden, but did not vote for a single Republican. And this cohort of anti-Trump Repubs existed only in key Jurisdictions, since this is not a pattern that seems to be repeated outside of the contested states.

  47. Rebel Scum

    Giuliani: Trump campaign has enough evidence to change PA results.

    I know you guys like to swing your dicks around, so I really hope this is not just bluster.

    • leon

      Narrator:

      It was just bluster

    • Idle Hands

      Guiliani has brainworms. They aren’t overturning any results it’s over the narrative is set.

  48. The Late P Brooks

    Will they be wearing capes?

    Lab coats. With stethoscopes draped around their necks.

    • Cy

      They’re like Batman, only you pay for all of the toys and the cops aren’t happy about being in on it.

  49. The Late P Brooks

    McArdle is a good egg

    Must be a different McArdle.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s not the one that’s been hiding in her DC condo for the last nine months.

    • robc

      Yes, it is. That caught my eye too.

    • R C Dean

      Not Megan, who first caught my eye with her “libertarian” defense of the Big Bank Bailout of ’08.

  50. Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

    Mornin’ Banjos! Note my new handle h/t you!

  51. DEG

    ‘Mornin Banjos

    In a Sunday interview with Fox News host Maria Bartiromo, Giuliani said the lawsuits being filed by the Trump campaign might reveal that up to 900,000 invalid ballots were cast in the state of Pennsylvania, a key election swing state several news outlets projected presumptive President-elect Joe Biden would win. “Do you believe that you have enough to actually change the fate of the election?” Bartiromo asked.

    I’ll believe it when I see it.

    Then in mid-October, the Wisconsin Elections Commission issued a directive to the state’s county clerks appearing to give them the authority, in contravention of state law, to fix incomplete (or “spoiled”) ballots that are missing witness signatures.

    That’s an invitation to fraud.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      What are the disadvantages of taking federal elections out of state hands and imposing uniform standards nationwide? What’s happened is just a disaster. Even if my state is clean my vote can essentially be canceled by fraud in another state that will never be addressed.

    • R C Dean

      There’s no way to fix a missing witness signature that isn’t fraudulent. Even if it wasn’t illegal, you simply cannot take a ballot you received in the mail and say you witnessed it being cast.

  52. Pope Jimbo

    So what happens if fraud is proven? You can’t know how much fraud there was exactly can you?

    Do you force another vote? Give it to Trump?

    This seems like a perfect crime because any potential remedy is as bad as letting things stay the way they are.

    • robc

      You negotiate the end of reconstruction?

      Wait…is it still 1876?

      • leon

        Heh.

      • robc

        It does lead to an interesting question…Lets say it gets to the same point, what would the GOP accept as a tradeoff for a Biden presidency? What would the Ds accept for 4 more years of Trump?

        I think the former is more likely to happen.

      • leon

        The former is indeed much more probably (though i think Biden wins without having to negotiate). I don’t know what the GOP does, because you are going to see a huge political war in the GOP between the Never-trumpers and neo-cons trying to reclaim the party and the Populist-Nationalists trying to maintain hold on the party. Depending on who wins out, would determine what a GOP would accept.

      • EvilSheldon

        The Democrats can promise anything they want to, because once they are in office there’s no way to force them to deliver.

      • Viking1865

        Yeah any kind of Grand Compromise would need to have whatever the price of the bride is negotiated and paid for in the next couple weeks.

        I was talking with a guy at work about this bullshit, and this customer overhears us. Nice, sweet, grandmother. Soft spoken, very very gentle. She says, and I quote “The only way to get out of this is war.” We’re talking about the Spanberger Magic Flash Drive, and this fucking old white lady is talking about how its great Freitas is a Green Beret because that’s what we need not politicians.

      • Agent Cooper

        The GOP is nothing with the PopNats now. It’s Trump’s party. They failed miserably to fight for anyone not already in their inner circles and a lot of registered R’s despise them (Romney, et al) because of it.

      • R C Dean

        what would the GOP accept as a tradeoff for a Biden presidency

        Earnest promises by the Dems and the media to be nice to them would probably do it.

    • Drake

      A re-vote in those 7 states with rules imposed by the Supreme Court would be a glorious thing to watch.

      • cyto

        As I say below, I don’t think it is possible to ever have such a thing happen.

        But should there be a revote, I feel very confident that Trump would win those states by a wide margin, probably somewhere up around 10%.

        Assuming that the vote totals are genuine, it took a Herculean effort to go around for weeks collecting ballots in those heavily Democrat districts. there is no way all of those people are walking their butts down to the polls.

        Before anything like that were to happen, I am quite certain that Democratic operatives from groups like BLM and Antifa would lead the charge to protest and block the vote. Just like factions refused to participate in elections in third world countries, they would attempt to delegitimize a vote they could never win.

      • R C Dean

        it took a Herculean effort to go around for weeks collecting ballots in those heavily Democrat districts

        Especially considering the Dem’s ground game was apparently very weak this year.

      • R C Dean

        I’d be curious to know what the results are if the big Biden-only dumps are simply invalidated and subtracted from the totals, and the “software errors” are corrected.

        Because you can’t have a recount until the initial count is finished, the new game is to slow-walk finishing the initial count until its too late for a recount, anyway. There’s a reason why an election machine capable of counting millions of votes in one day is taking weeks to count a few hundred thousand.

      • AlexinCT

        The constitution would not allow a revote.. It would require the legislatures in those states to send electors with orders from the legislature on how to vote.

    • cyto

      The only possible way for a finding of some sort of widespread fraud to be adjudicated in a way that anyone will accept would be to have a revote. simply having a court declare one person the winner will never be accepted. There is no chance for a Biden loss to be accepted unless it is in a revote, and even then it will not be accepted by most on the left.

      I just don’t see how any of that is going to happen. Finding proof is almost impossible. Once they stick 400,000 ballots into ballot boxes, who’s to say where they came from? Because they had access to all of the data before they began counting ballots in those five cities, it would have been trivial to ensure that they had valid names available for the ballots.

      The only way that I can think of to make a convincing case would be to canvas every single person who voted in those precincts and ask them if they voted, whether they voted by mail, and who they voted for. Getting compliance would be nigh impossible. But let’s say you were able to canvass 25 to 50% of voters. Then you might be able to come up with 10,000 people who said that they did not vote. If you could get a chunk of them to swear an affidavit to that effect, you might be able to win a court case.

      but the Roberts Court has signaled hard that they have no stomach for getting involved at all. When they declined to review the rules put in place by court fiat in Pennsylvania, they made it impossible to adjudicate anything in Pennsylvania. There is no way that a federal court can overturn the Pennsylvania election based on the illegal rules changes at this point. Not without seeming illegitimate.

      So I don’t see why they would suddenly grow a pair of stones and overturn anything, regardless of what evidence was presented.

      Besides which, apparently the Constitution provides a remedy, and the remedy is not in the court system. The Constitution provides for these things to be adjudicated in the House of Representatives. With votes by state delegation, not individual representative. Because this is a nation of United States, not of political parties or individuals. It is the states that select the president, not the people directly.

      And if you think any of that is happening, I have a bridge to sell you. The powers aligned against it are far too great. The consequences of taking those actions are far too great. And the possibility of finding irrefutable evidence is far too small.

      I just don’t see how it could possibly happen. Unless the Democrats are so helplessly sloppy that they have tens of thousands of missing ballots on their hands, I don’t see anything changing.

      • Drake

        There’s plenty of proof, if it isn’t ignored. One example.

      • cyto

        A variation on the theme of it is not who votes but who counts the votes. it is not who writes the laws, but who enforces them.

      • dorvinion

        But let’s say you were able to canvass 25 to 50% of voters. Then you might be able to come up with 10,000 people who said that they did not vote. If you could get a chunk of them to swear an affidavit to that effect, you might be able to win a court case.

        Problem is that there is an incentive for people to lie and say “I did not vote” as well as for those who approve of apparent outcome to lie and say “yes I voted”

      • R C Dean

        The biggest problem with any serious investigation or a recount is there simply isn’t time. There’s a hard deadline of December 14, less than 5 weeks away. So none of that is going to happen.

      • R C Dean

        Meant “revote”, not “recount”.

      • kbolino

        It’s even earlier than that, December 8, 6 days before the EC meets. That is the Title 3 “safe harbor” deadline. That’s about 4 weeks out and Thanksgiving is smack dab in the middle of it.

        Other countries, however, could accomplish this. The entire UK election process takes 6 weeks. We don’t need to redo the primaries, we don’t need to redo the House or Senate elections, we don’t even need to wait for the electors to be selected and the EC to meet, we’d only need to redo the Presidential election. That’s one race.

        If the U.S. can’t accomplish that, it’s because the system we have is far too sclerotic.

      • R C Dean

        We can’t even get to revoting until the court cases get to SCOTUS and SCOTUS orders a revote. Especially with the slow-walking of the final counts, I don’t see much prospect of this getting to SCOTUS in the next week or so, SCOTUS deciding after a week or so, and an entire new election getting organized, held, and counted in the next week or so. And I think those are the markers we would have to hit.

      • kbolino

        On the vein of institutional sclerosis, all of that is bullshit we’ve allowed to accrete. You can read about cases in 19th century England that get resolved in a week or two, and that’s end-to-end time, from offense to judgment, whether civil or criminal. The judges had a bailiff and a clerk. Meanwhile, even with cases of great import, the process in the U.S. takes about a month as you imply here. That’s with electronic computers and dozens of staff members working in the system for every one judge.

        Even our own elites don’t believe in our own system. They have abandoned most constitutional means for structural improvement, and when they “spread democracy” to Afghanistan and Iraq, they wrote up constitutions very unlike our own (cf. the Philippines’ original U.S.-like constitution).

  53. Rebel Scum

    Trump campaign moves to trigger Wisconsin recount

    Recounts don’t matter if fraudulent votes ballots are still counted.

  54. Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

    Sundays are rough, I’m off to bed. Be excellent to each other Glibbies!

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Night night Festus!

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Night night Festus!

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        And so say the squirrels ?!

    • DEG

      Bye Festus! See you next time!

  55. leon

    What ya’ll are discounting is that Elections are the Holiest of Rituals for the religion of the State. Despite spending 4 years claiming that the elections are not secure, there is no way that the leftists will allow the consensus opinion to become that the election was fraudulent. The SCOTUS will not say such a thing, and neither will the judges on the way up.

  56. Rebel Scum

    permitted local county election clerks to cure spoiled ballots by filling in missing addresses for witnesses even though state law invalidates any ballot without a witness address.

    exempted as many as 200,000 citizens from voter ID rules by allowing them to claim the COVID-19 pandemic caused them to be “indefinitely confined.”

    failed to purge 130,000 names from outdated voter rolls as required by law.

    Sounds like they need a redo so they can have an election following their own laws.

    • leon

      Laws are like a train. When you get to your destination you get off.

  57. leon

    Alright folks, I do have work to get done. I’ll talk to ya later.

  58. Rebel Scum

    The problem was flagged because it was so obvious that such a red county was not going more than 60% for Biden.

    Meh. Even Republicans hate Bad Orange Man.

    • R C Dean

      Plausible, but only if it is a pattern across the country. It sure doesn’t seem to be, and certainly not to that degree.

  59. The Other Kevin

    Update on my family COVID drama (in case anyone is interested, even just as a case study).

    We last saw my MIL last Monday. She got sick Tuesday, and Friday her COVID test results came back positive. Saturday the rest of the family was going to pay $75/person to get rapid tested (the 2-4 day tests are free but we didn’t want to have to wait). We backed out of that because we found out you can test positive up to 14 days after exposure, which means the tests would be useless. So we’re just waiting another week and hoping for the best.

    Meanwhile MIL took a turn for the worse, and my SIL took her to the hospital. All the area hospitals are backed up with COVID cases and some have COVID patients waiting in their cars to be seen. Luckily SIL is an NP and knew what to say to get her in. MIL is now on oxygen and antibiotics (for pneumonia) and they just started her on Trump pills. As of yesterday she was stable and resting.

    Once this is over I might write this up as an article. This is the only “real” COVID experience we’ve had in my family.

    • PieInTheSky

      I am not a doctor but Vitamin D and lots of it.

      • PieInTheSky

        Also if it was me and I had a choice, though I am not recommending this as it is my own opinion, I would try to get me a 10g of vit C intravenously.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      and they just started her on Trump pills

      I assume this narrative will change this week, or at least by the end of the month.

      Also, glad to hear she is doing better.

      • The Other Kevin

        Thanks. She is over 60 and overweight, so still at high risk, but it’s really good that she’s able to call us.

    • Count Potato

      Sorry about your MIL. Hope she gets well soon.

    • DEG

      Good that she’s doing better.

  60. Rebel Scum

    #BREAKING development that *may* significantly affect the current Biden lead in Georgia. “Fulton County has discovered an issue involving reporting from their work on Friday.”
    @11AliveNews we don’t know how many ballots are in question, or which way they would change the count.

    The issue is that no way in hell does good ole boy GA go for Biden.

  61. trshmnstr the terrible

    Hey Yet Another Dev, if you’re still thinking about doing a mobile app, let me know. I can get you plugged into our gitlab repo and I’d like to help out if you want the help.

  62. Count Potato

    “No joke: Ahead of U.N. review of U.S. rights record, China—which herded 1 million Muslims into camps to kill their religion & culture—asks: “What measures has U.S. taken to eliminate systematic racism, racial discrimination, white supremacy, religious intolerance and xenophobia?“”

    https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/1325549919286009858

  63. The Other Kevin

    I’ve posted this type of thing a lot lately, but maybe I should petition to have it instated as an Iron Law:

    To Democrats and children, the word “fair” means “I get my way”.

    • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

      Any definition of fairness made after the fact boils down to “I get my way.” This is true of people on all sides of any issue. It is why constitutions exist. They are supposed to lay out the framework we all agree will be the core rules of the game before we start playing. The problem is that we are a rationalizing species not a rational one, so when things do not go our way we find arguments that blame the outcome on the other side violating the rules, even if we have to torture reality to make the argument. Note, I am not saying that the other side did not violate the rules in any particular case. I am saying that there is a strong tendency to see them as violating the rules whether they did or not, and this makes it very hard for anyone who is not truly dispassionate about any particular case to judge fairly.

      I do not envy the Supremes right now. They have a defining moment in front of them and if I were a person of faith I would be praying that God grant them the courage and wisdom to decide the coming cases justly, whether or not that meant my ‘side’ won.

      • Viking1865

        My thing is, there are plenty of actual data points to support the fraud hypothesis.

        Like, bellwether counties. 2016 was a highly anomalous election, where Trump drew to an inside straight and hit on river. Very low probability, and that was reflected by the fact that Clinton won 4 bellwether counties while still losing the election. 3 of those counties were in California.

        Bexar County, Texas, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.
        Merced County, California, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.
        Stanislaus County, California, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.
        Ventura County, California, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.

        In 2020, Trump won 10 of these bellwether counties, spread across 7 states, and somehow lost.

        Essex County, Vermont, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.
        Hidalgo County, New Mexico, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.
        Juneau County, Wisconsin, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.
        Ottawa County, Ohio, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.
        Sawyer County, Wisconsin, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.
        Valencia County, New Mexico, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.
        Vigo County, Indiana, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.
        Washington County, Maine, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.
        Westmoreland County, Virginia, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.
        Wood County, Ohio, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_election_bellwether_counties_in_the_United_States#Alaska

        That fucking reeks man, that just fucking reeks. It flies in the face of everything we know about American Presidential elections.

        Trump easily won Florida and Ohio, and that pair has gone to the winner every year since 1960….which is the year Richard Daley and his buddies in the mob stole the election for JFK.

        No Republican has ever won Ohio and lost the Presidency, ever.

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        I personally agree with you, and yet I recognize that I too am a rationalizing animal and am prone to dismiss evidence that goes against what I perceive as my interests and to magnify that which supports them. I was making an entirely different point than the one you are arguing against. I am not saying there is nothing suspicious in this election. I am saying it is extremely hard, bordering on impossible, to fairly evaluate evidence when you have a major stake in the outcome. I am not specially resistant to this problem. You are not specially resistant to this problem. The only palliative for this problem is to try and step back from certainty when you are most emotionally certain, and it is not a cure, just a palliative.

        Science is hard. The more closely the subject of study relates to the life, reputation, or beliefs of the student the harder it is to find Truth.

      • Viking1865

        No, I totally one hundred percent agree with what you’re saying. Which is why I am looking for the numbers that back the theory, not the anecdotes.

        I am completely unimpressed by videos of individual malfeasance or shennanigans. That stuff is baked in the cake of election in Philly and Detroit and Atlanta. Happens every year.

        The fraud, if indeed there is fraud, will be in the mail in ballots which were absolutely enormous this year. PA had ten times as many as they usually do. If there is fraud, thats where it will be, and looking at bellwether counties and states is important because if there was a genuine vote against Trump, it would be across the country and it would show in the bellwethers. It would show up in the House races, because you can’t just manufacture mail in ballots in every House race across the country with impunity. The voter pool is smaller. Dumping 50,000 fake ballots into a race where 500,000 people vote shows a lot more than dumping the same 50,000 in a race where 5 million people vote.

      • R C Dean

        I am completely unimpressed by videos of individual malfeasance or shennanigans.

        Well, yes and no. People should still go to jail for it, although I suspect very few will. And to the extent they provide examples of how the big picture fraud was enabled, they have some value.

        I keep coming back to the question of judicial remedy. In 2000, the Court simply stopped the recount, pretty easy to do, on the (unspoken, I think) basis that time was up, and also on the grounds that selective recounts weren’t legitimate.

        I can see a few judicial remedies for a few abuses here – throw out all the late-arriving ballots that are in violation of state law, assuming they can still be identified, for example.

        But even if we conclusively prove that 50,000 ballots were cast by dead people in WI, for example, what then? Can each of those ballots be identified? I doubt it, but maybe if mail-in ballots in WI are attributed on their face to a particular voter (IOW, there is no secret ballot).

        That said, it may be close enough in the contested states for these kinds of remedies to reverse the results. If so, is SCOTUS willing to take the hit to do it?

      • juris imprudent

        I am saying it is extremely hard, bordering on impossible, to fairly evaluate evidence when you have a major stake in the outcome.

        Yeah, that can’t be said enough.

      • R C Dean

        I struggle with it.

        I guess I’m looking for some benign explanation for all the statistical anomalies. I’m not really hearing one. The benefit of the fraud explanation is that it seems to account for the anomalies, and passes Occam’s Razor. At some point, the burden of proof shifts, and I need to see evidence that there wasn’t widespread cheating. I realize that borders on asking for proof of a negative, but give me something to go on, here.

        A large cohort of anti-Trump Republicans who only voted for Biden seems unlikely.

        That anti-Trump Republican votes would show up disproportionately in the late-counted ballots, breaking the ratio established early, seems highly unlikely.

        That this cohort exists only in certain contested/swing states also seems highly unlikely.

        I’d love to see a reasoned explanation for the anomalies that isn’t “fraud”. Is there one? If so, could a brother get a link?

      • kbolino

        I’d love to see a reasoned explanation for the anomalies that isn’t “fraud”.

        Push ballot harvesting. In other words, they went door-to-door and said something like “there’s no time, just check Biden’s name off on this ballot” and got enough to swing the election. The counting was delayed to give time to collect these quasi-legitimate ballots and swing the result.

        Of course, I have absolutely zero evidence of this, and it would likely violate the spirit if not letter of various state and federal laws, but it’s just on the edge of not quite being full-on fraudulent. There’s probably some double votes in there too, though they included a CYA “if you haven’t already voted, …”.

        It’s shady as hell, and the GOP can play this game too, and the electoral officials obviously colluded with it happening, but I’d bet the courts would uphold it since they’re too chickenshit to call for a new election.

      • kbolino

        …though they likely* included a CYA…

      • R C Dean

        That’s a possible explanation. I would like to know if the Dems swarmed those cities with ballot harvesters and how many ballots they harvested. There should be evidence of both, as harvested ballots should be cohorted, and you should even be able to see the voting each way.

        A ballot harvester asking/telling the voter how to vote would be illegal. Although we all know that’s exactly what they do.

      • prolefeed

        I don’t think you’re giving them enough credit for preparing for this in advance. Note Biden’s slip about having the best fraud team ever.

        Soon as those mail in ballots came out in swing states, I suspect they were out collecting them and marking them for Biden beforehand.

        Or even printing up extra ballots beforehand, and not risking going door to door. If you are in charge of printing the legit ballots, not that hard to run off a bunch extra.

  64. Certified Public Asshat

    Our vice-president elect has her pronouns in her bio. What’s your excuse? pic.twitter.com/QrePlvVZja— Robin Stevens (@redbreastedbird) November 7, 2020

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Thank you to the people pointing out that the original tweet was over-simplistic and didn’t mention those people who haven’t settled on pronouns that work for them, or who don’t feel safe to use their chosen pronouns publicly.— Robin Stevens (@redbreastedbird) November 9, 2020

      A game you can’t win.

      • leon

        Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

        K. I promise, I’m going to work now.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        “Fuck off” is the only appropriate answer.

    • PieInTheSky

      I have a shred of morality?

    • mrfamous

      Our vice-president elect also participated in the forging of criminal confessions. Should I start working on that as well?

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Tim with the big punch:

        My excuse is that I don’t feel guilty for putting a bunch of people in jail so I don’t capitulate to online mobs who demand I make meaningless gestures. Thank you for asking! https://t.co/v9SKVbparS— Tim Dillon (@TimJDillon) November 9, 2020

    • R C Dean

      No Presidential candidate in (recent?) history has even given a victory speech before his opponent conceded, either.

      I think. Honestly haven’t researched it, but that’s my recollection.

  65. The Late P Brooks

    No presidential candidate in modern history has ever refused to concede.

    Get back to us when the legitimate process has run to completion.

  66. The Late P Brooks

    If you want me to believe that people only vote for the race they care about (I actually happen to be one of those people who may only vote in one or two races), I would think that there need to be 400K ballots with only Trump on them.

    Hell, I might settle for a number greater than zero.

    • robc

      The problem was not that a lot of people only vote for Prez.

      Its that their was a large dump of ballots at one time that only had a vote for Prez. If it is spread out throught the system, yeah, it happens. But not all at once.

      Statistical analysis is the way to go. The problem with statistical analysis is that the other side says, “yeah, but that doesn’t PROVE fraud.” Statistical analysis is the key to starting detailed investigations.

      • juris imprudent

        Funny how statistical analysis proves system racism though, isn’t it?

    • robc

      Anarchist and Program in the same sentence is a non-starter.

  67. Count Potato

    I’m no immunologist, but I can tie my shoes.

    “@NYGovCuomo says it’s “bad news” Pfizer’s Covid vaccine came during the Trump Admin; says he’s going to work w/ other governors to “stop” distribution “before it does damage””

    https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1325794898306605056

    “Thank you @JoeBiden for developing a COVID-19 vaccine. @realDonaldTrump had four years to do it and couldn’t.”

    https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1325791189774323713

    • The Other Kevin

      Still amazes me that so many people see this is perfectly acceptable behavior.

      • Viking1865

        We’ve had, thus far today, four seperate customers who had stopped coming in due to COVID, decide they are ready to return.

        Pandemic is fucking over guys.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        So stupid

  68. hayeksplosives

    On of my friends on Facebook announced her intent to flee for Parler. One of her “friends” commented “Oh, is Parler the new site for hate speech? Asking for a friend.”

    Cunts, the lot of them.

    • R C Dean

      I’m hearing that from Mrs. Dean and some of her circle as well. The fleeing to Parler thing, not the hate thing.

    • EvilSheldon

      Nice of her to wave the asshole flag so high and wide.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      No friend would ever pose a question like that public so the “” are apt.

    • wdalasio

      It’s what happens when you ban dueling. The prospect of pistols at dawn kind of deters that sort of thing.

    • Idle Hands

      status

    • R C Dean

      Whether the resident is a hipster or a redneck.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      About $30,000

    • slumbrew

      A trailer can actually be moved repeatedly without shaking apart.

      The few “tiny homes” I’ve seen are not something I’d want to move around a bunch.

      • juris imprudent

        You must mean travel-trailer and not mobile-home.

    • RAHeinlein

      I just saw a piece on CNBC saying “Racial Equity” and “Climate Change” are among Biden’s top four priorities.

      • Drake

        Not like they can publicly say “Chinese Bribes”, “Deep State Payoffs”, and “Prevent an Outsider from Ever Getting Elected Again”.

      • R C Dean

        Prevent an Outsider from Ever Getting Elected Again

        That would be the smart move – let the tame Repubs win occasionally. Anyone want to bet that, once they “fix” federal elections with mandatory universal mail-in voting and ballot harvesting, they don’t allow their new-found guarantee of winning national and many state elections to be used to benefit the Repubs?

      • Count Potato

        So let’s focus on the made-up problems?

    • AlexinCT

      You may jest about this, but I already got an email from my HR leadership hinting exactly at this…

      Their message was: “Show the right contrition and guess which way the winds of progressive change blows, or there will be hell to pay…”

      • kinnath

        Who said I was joking?

      • AlexinCT

        So you are also in the same boat of stupid I am now, I see…

        Stay strong.

      • kinnath

        The email hasn’t come out yet.

        But the future is clear.

      • R C Dean

        Let the laying of groundwork for the EEOC complaint begin . . . .

        Oh, never mind. If Biden/Harris actually win, the EEOC will be citing companies that don’t enforce the Party Line.

      • juris imprudent

        I think my response would be to provide a urine sample, a rather large urine sample.

  69. l0b0t

    Apropos of nothing election/current events related, I’ve really been enjoying the close-up magic of this Chris Hannibal fellow. https://youtu.be/-XoCvn4fnXw

  70. Rebel Scum

    Eliminating Dem cheating would also help.

    House Majority Whip James Clyburn: “I think Trump should concede but I also think that the Republican Party has a responsibility here … what matters to me is whether or not the Republican Party will step up and help us preserve the integrity of this democracy”

    • Viking1865

      The Republican Party is being presented with the option of accepting their status as the Perpetual Loyal Opposition, or fighting for an actual fair and secure election system.

      If they concede here and now, every single Democratic Governor and Secretary of State will build an absolute wall of fraud around their election systems. They will never ever win another statewide election in MI, WI, PA. They will find themselves fighting for their lives in any state with a big city that can manufacture ballots, which will be all of them.

      • R C Dean

        They will never ever win another statewide election in MI, WI, PA.

        I believe the last statewide election they won in AZ was in 2018, when Ducey was re-elected and Sinema was elected. I note that our Secretary of State is a Democrat, who owes her career to Emerge Arizona, which I believe is a lefty organization although nominally its “pro-woman”. No idea if she is one of Soros’s candidates.

      • Idle Hands

        Martha McSally is also a garbage candidate that the republican establishment just can’t stop trying to make happen.

      • R C Dean

        She’s a terrible campaigner, and a mediocre politician.

        With record gun sales including lots of new gun owners and a radical anti-gun opponent, she did not make gun control an issue.

      • juris imprudent

        Seriously? Truly the candidate of the stupid party.

      • Viking1865

        Emerge Arizona is probably a Soros org. He started funding Sec State races back in 2008, and has moved the money through several different front orgs since then. Although I absolutely think AZ could go blue honestly, because Californication happens.

      • kbolino

        To this day I do not understand what the purpose of electing the Attorney General is supposed to be. So many states have gone that route but it just results in the office being even more corrupt than before. Nobody knows anything of the AG except the headline cases, so naturally they chase more of those. Then the settlement funds end up becoming political slush funds, and nobody cares because at least a blow was struck against the evil [insert undesirable entity here].

        The only thing that makes even less sense to me, in the same vein, is elected school boards.

      • Agent Cooper

        It’s the best bad choice. Otherwise, they would be appointed by the governor and be even more of a team player. There’s an off chance in an election you get a other-party AG in place.

  71. The Late P Brooks

    I am not, at this time, completely certain Biden won fraudulently. But some things are so galactically implausible that I must insist on verification.

    Like, chain of custody. Some form of audit. Recounts.

  72. Rebel Scum

    Oh, Kristi.

    Noem’s appearance on “This Week” followed Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s (D-NY) appearance in which Cuomo called on Republicans to accept Joe Biden’s victory and predicted that more governors would acknowledge the severity of the coronavirus once President Donald Trump left office.

    “Well, it is a regional increase that we’re seeing. We are testing more,” Gov. Noem responded. “And, frankly, I’m not going to take advice from Gov. Cuomo. He has the second-worst death rate, per 100,000 people, in this nation. He’s at 173 deaths per 100,000 per capita. South Dakota is at 54.”

    Gov. Noem went on to say that she appreciated President Trump giving states the freedom and flexibility to tailor their response to the pandemic, saying the president has “let me do my job.”

    “But the other thing that I think is going on here, George, is this is all premature,” Noem said. “This is a premature conversation because we have not finished counting votes. There’re states that have not been called and back in 2000, Al Gore was given his day in court. We should give President Trump his day in court, let the process unfold because, George, we live in a republic.”

    • Agent Cooper

      This Week’s tweet said she was the governor of North Dakota and slammed her for not calling for Trump to concede. In her response, she finished with “Oh, and it’s SOUTH Dakota.”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      They’re failing at controlling the narrative outside of their bubble. This is not going to go well.

  73. Brawndo

    Great set of links Banjos.

    If this goes to the Supreme Court, I will skip work to watch the proceedings. Barrett and Kavanaugh have a bone to pick with the DNC and Biden accused Thomas of rape during his confirmation hearing almost 30 years ago. We don’t deserve this timeline.

    • Nephilium

      So those three all need to recuse themselves, obviously.

  74. The Late P Brooks

    Oh, never mind. If Biden/Harris actually win, the EEOC will be citing companies that don’t enforce the Party Line.

    They’ll be too busy extinguishing the raging fires of disparate impact to worry about the politicization of the workplace.

    • R C Dean

      I bet they find time for both. Especially since politicization of the workplace is, per critical race theory, how you extinguish the raging fires of disparate impact.

  75. Count Potato

    “No Matter the Liberal Metric Chosen, the Bush/Cheney Administration Was Far Worse Than Trump.

    That the liberal belief in and fear of a Trump-led fascist dictatorship and violent coup is actually a fantasy — a longing, a desire, a craving — has long been obvious.

    The Democrats’ own actions proved that they never believed their own melodramatic and self-glorifying rhetoric about Trump as The New Hitler — from their leaders joining with the GOP to increase The Fascist Dictator’s domestic spying powers and military spending to their (correct) belief that the way to oust The Neo-Nazi Tyrant was through a peaceful and lawfully conducted democratic election in which vote totals and, if necessary, duly constituted courts would determine the next president…

    Posturing as a courageous soldier in an existential battle for freedom, democracy and the survival of the marginalized against Nazi despotism is far more exciting and psychologically satisfying (and financially profitable) than being an obedient liberal drone marching in perfect tune to the dreary, McKinsey-scripted musical theater produced by Tom Perez and the DNC. That is therefore the delusional storyline adopted by many.”

    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/no-matter-the-liberal-metric-chosen

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1325121286561914881

    • Count Potato

      “But this entire narrative is complete and utter bullshit: blatantly so. There is nothing done by the Trump administration that can be rationally characterized as a radical aberration, some dramatic break, from U.S. tradition. Quite the contrary: none of Trump’s actions and policies are in some new universe of savagery, lawlessness, or radicalism when compared to those who preceded him in power.

      The age of social media has fostered a type of reductive thinking and discourse about politics and the world in which pat and trite phrases have replaced critical thought as our primary instruments for making sense of external events. One can already hear the outraged liberal response to this claim finding expression in a series of dreary, now-familiar clichés that fit comfortably into a tweet and a chant: lawlessness and authoritarianism, racism and bigotry, kids in cages, he killed 235,000 Americans, lying — these are the stunted, juvenile slogans that are supposed to serve as proof that America has never seen an evil quite like Trump before.

      That Trump ushered in an unprecedented climate of lawlessness and authoritarianism is perhaps the most stunning of the assertions, particularly when delivered by the Bush/Obama Warriors on Terror who succeeded in imposing a model of the American Presidency that resided above not only morality but law.”

      • B.P.

        Talking to someone in meatspace about actual Trump administration policy issues is maddening. It’s all “Trump is icky and says mean things,” without even so much as a veneer of substance. I get it, I don’t much like to hear the guy talk either, but grow the fuck up everyone.

      • EvilSheldon

        You know, I was just thinking, ‘But, but, kids in cages!’ and then Glenn went and said it himself. Amazing.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Excellent article. Greenwald nails the existential crisis the Democrats are having.

  76. The Late P Brooks

    “Well, it is a regional increase that we’re seeing. We are testing more,” Gov. Noem responded. “And, frankly, I’m not going to take advice from Gov. Cuomo. He has the second-worst death rate, per 100,000 people, in this nation. He’s at 173 deaths per 100,000 per capita. South Dakota is at 54.”

    In my bunk, I’ll be.

    • UnCivilServant

      Speaking of Andy, The Murderer is already going “We’re not going to let them distribute the Pfizer vaccine”, because it threatens the basis for his illegal orders.

      • l0b0t

        Wow! A legitimate Commerce Clause action that will be blithely ignored by our judiciary.

    • Idle Hands

      Only person I’d even consider voting for on a republican ticket in 2024.

    • leon

      But he had a ghost writer write a book about leadership.

    • Surly Knott

      Noem/DeSantis 2024

  77. Viking1865

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1325593152833654785.html

    Pretty pretty pictures and charts. This is the part I like

    “Now in fairness, VA is the only state out of the 50 that has anomalies but has not had accusations of voter fraud, yet. I think this is the exception that proves the rule.”

    Or, you know, they’re cheating in VA too .

    • Idle Hands

      yeah my district who went for Trump in 2016 but wen Biden this year saw our incumbent republican congressman get a larger share of votes. Seems odd, but whatevs.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I hadn’t considered that the Dems in Virginia were trying to consolidate power thru electoral fraud, but times change.

      • R C Dean

        If they have the ability (namely, a jurisdiction of sufficient size where they control the election machinery sufficiently) why wouldn’t they?

    • R C Dean

      has not had accusations of voter fraud, yet

      Well, other than the Thumb Drive of Democrat Salvation.

      Unfortunately, I don’t see how one translates this kind of statistical evidence into a remedy. I strongly suspect that the ballots making up the anomalies are now intermingled with other ballots, with no way to distinguish them. Even if they are segregated, how to prove any of them were manufactured? The envelopes that are supposed to be the control are, I’m certain, disassociated from the ballots.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      That Wisconsin chart is astounding.

      There is no fucking way that a ratio of D/R mail-in ballots instantaneously shifts from one value to another and stays there.

  78. Rebel Scum

    I look forward to Trump’s memoir on what happened during the campaign. I suspect it will be titled What Happened “FRAUD!”.

  79. PieInTheSky

    Fun fact: #BonfireNight was widely celebrated in the 13 colonies, and was an especially big deal in Massachusetts. George Washington ordered people to stop marking it because he hoped to win Canada, with its sizeable Catholic population, to the revolution.

    https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/status/1325488341010309122

    • Idle Hands

      I still can’t figure out if this is the messaging immediately or if they go through the motions and do a mask mandate and a mandatory two week lockdown in January to declare a success before they just move on.

      • Viking1865

        I never thought there would be a lockdown if Biden won. This is basic conditioning. You apply pain until you get the action you want, then you stop applying pain.

        They’re going to quietly rescind the COVID bounty for hospitals, they’re going to stop talking CASES SPIKING and start talking DEATHS ARE FLAT. They will probably shamelessly, now that the election is over, talk about how Florida actually got it right and thats the model going forward. The Barrington Declaration will start getting Strange New Respect. The vaccine is ready apparently. Even if no one takes it, that’s the fig leaf they need.

      • Idle Hands

        It’s just hard to believe they’d be so shameless given how many people take this thing really really super seriously. I get maybe 60% of the people who were super duper serious about the china plague are political partisan hacks but their are still a sizable percentage that are never getting over this.

      • Viking1865

        Nah dude, the people who were SUPER SERIOUS about it were celebrating in DC, NYC, LA, etc etc. It was 100% politics for them. We know because the pandemic was canceled for BLM events, but was back on the next day for all non BLM events, especially Trump rallies.

        The fearful will believe what the Screens tell them, and you can already see them walking it back in the news. “New studies” and “new evidence” that say the same thing the skeptics have been saying since May. There was one a couple days ago “Indoor concerts may not spread the virus.” Now we have a vaccine. That’s huge, because the doomers can get their Special Medicine to innoculate themselves against a disease that has had a 99.9% survival rate all along.

        You grab the horse by the bridle, you speak soothing words, you cover its eyes, feed it a sugar cube, and it calms down.

      • Plinker762

        I would expect a short period of extreme measures to send the message “it works”.

        But if they have total lockstep from the media, they may not need this charade.

      • Viking1865

        I keep saying, they honestly do not need any kind of lockdown theater. CNN took the Death Clock Off. You can already see the number of media stories dropping, and they’re starting to shift from DOOM to “green shoots” type stuff.

        This pandemic was a media event as much as anything. If Hillary had won in 2016, this would have been “an unusually bad flu season”.

      • leon

        Yes. It’s hard to argue that it wasnt anything but that. Remember that while the Media has significantly waned for the Right in the country, it is still seen as highly legitimate by a large part of the moderates and Most of the left. So Yeah they can still weild a lot of power over what people think and believe.

        This is why every year for the past 4 years people have talked about how bad it was, even though if you asked them they would have said personally there year was fine. The Media has done a large part to drive many, many, many people into depression and sadness, because they didn’t like Donald Trump.

        The Media has no problem in tyring to make you feel miserable if they think it will make you change the way you vote.

      • Viking1865

        Even if you don’t believe individual stories, or you look at them skeptically, the constant drumbeat affects you.

        My mothers physical and mental health, which was not good before 2020, has deteriorated markedly this year. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that she’s constantly got MSNBC or CNN blaring from the TV, and that she’s always sharing proggie bullshit on social media.

    • leon

      A Pandemic is like a Train. When you get to your destination, you get off.

      • Idle Hands

        same with democracy.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      That’s because Biden won. We can get back to normal now. He even created a vaccine in his basement.

    • leon

      Another Anti-Science Trumper huh?

    • Tundra

      Thank you.

      Fantastic article.

  80. Trigger Hippie

    Remember kids, climate change related computer models that consistently and wildy miss their predictions are accurate and settled science.

    Statistical impossibilities occurring at key swing states’ voting districts that only skew one way politically is just conspiratorial nonsense.

  81. Count Potato

    “What changed CNN?

    Monday, November 2, 2020 at 10:30am vs. Monday, November 9, 2020 at 10:30am.

    Gone is the COVID tracker and doom and gloom purple background.”

    https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1325827823920177154

    It would be hilarious if they brought it back after Trump won in court.

    • leon

      If the courts were to reverse the outcomes in such a way that Trump ended up winning, I think you would see an escalation to out and out war.

      So No i don’t think that is going to happen.

      • R C Dean

        We are now at a point where nearly half the country will reject the results of the election if they don’t win. Many Dems have been doing this for two decades, now. I think many Repubs will do so if Biden takes office.

        Without the veneer of legitimacy that an election provides, things will get very unpredictable indeed.

    • RAHeinlein

      The intro music for Squawk on the Street was Aquarius (Let the Sunshine In)

    • Agent Cooper

      Those graphics are back in certain places. They do segments without them.

  82. The Late P Brooks

    Another interesting anomaly: California Republicans did quite well. Once again, we should allow for the not-Trump vote among Republican voters, but it still makes me suspicious of the Biden Mandate.

    • leon

      The fact that it is so close that you have many states still not declared shows no Mandate. The fact that Biden is a democrate proves that he has a mandate.

    • R C Dean

      Any idea what the down-ballot vote totals were v. the Trump votes? I wouldn’t think the Dems would put up a big ballot manufacturing effort in CA for the Presidential race, because its not a swing state, so it might provide an interesting point of comparison.

  83. Cy

    https://spectator.org/stop-the-steal-start-the-audit/

    This guy gets it.

    A good quote from the article:

    “Remember when Democrats called for peace and unity in the days following the 2016 election of Donald Trump? Neither do I.…

    When Democrats hold power, we must be unified, and our opposition must be silent. Not to be confused with the rules when Republicans hold power — which are that Resistance is as American as apple pie.”

  84. The Late P Brooks

    As Tom Stoppard PROVED, in “Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead” a coin toss can come out heads several hundred times in succession.

    Try to argue with that. You can’t.

    • leon

      True. But i had a teacher who pointed out that Once you’ve flipped a coin 10 times and it came up heads every time, you should start assuming you don’t have a fair coin.

    • prolefeed

      Try to argue with that. You can’t.

      Two to the 100th power is 1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,376. In the US number naming system, it is one nonillion, 267 octillion, 650 septillion, 600 sextillion, 228 quintillion, 229 quadrillion, 401 trillion, 496 billion, 703 million, 205 thousand, 376.

      Two to the 200th power is that huge number multiplied by itself.

      A fair coin tossed two hundred times wouldn’t come up heads 200 times if you kept on trying until the heat death of the universe.

      • leon

        Well, at least you shouldn’t expect it to.

  85. The Late P Brooks

    Any idea what the down-ballot vote totals were v. the Trump votes?

    The article I saw (either L A Times or San Fran Chron) did not mention that.