Tuesday Morning Links

by | Nov 10, 2020 | Daily Links | 487 comments

The medal was not given for economics.

Man, the Jets sure know how to screw up.  It’s almost as if they’re actively trying to lose games. I’d be worried if I were Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields. I can’t wait for the day this economic illiterate shuts the fuck up. (I apologize for including that in the sports recap. She doesn’t deserve it.) And that’s pretty much it for sports.

Out of patience.

Theological heavyweight and all-around religious badass Martin Luther was born on this day. He shares it with British King George II, infielder Jimmy Dykes, awesome Russian inventor Mikhail Kalashnikov, writer W.E.B. Griffin, comedic actor Sinbad, droning sportscaster Linda Cohn, Downton Abbey actor Hugh Bonneville, pitcher Kenny Rogers, hard-partying F1 driver Eddie Irvine, outfielder Shawn Green, and actress (who died too young) Brittany Murphy.

That’s it for birthdays. Some absolute heavyweights there who dramatically changed the course of humanity.  And now on to…the links!

Win? I had no idea the election had been certified. Oh yeah, it’s CNN.  They don’t really understand how elections work or they don’t really care.

McFuck this shit.

Blech! The branding sounds just as bad as the product.  Also, where’s my fucking McRib? I thought they’d be here a week ago, dammit.

Get your popcorn. The Supreme Court is in session. This will result in millions of heads exploding one way or the other.

No fucking shit. It’s almost as if terrorizing people constantly and barraging them with doomsday predictions month after month over something that’s highly unlikely to harm them results in emotional problems. What a shock!

Here come the new lockdowns! Just in time for the holidays!

She should say she was just protesting Trump. She’ll get her money back.

This is some crazy-ass shit right here. She’s an adult who says her mental state is fine. How can she not be given control back over her own life?

Paradise awaits in Houston. I think I’ve discovered the home of the First Greater Glibs Meetup. Who’s gonna join me?

Prophetic?  Maybe, maybe not. But it’s a great song. Enjoy it.

Now get out there and have a great day, friends!

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487 Comments

  1. AlexinCT

    Nice pic of your package Sloop..

    • JG43

      I think I saw Steven Tyler in a getup like that

      • db

        What did he say about your outfit?

    • Not Adahn

      Should get a pair of these

    • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

      I thought you were describing your genitalia. Nevermind.

    • pistoffnick

      Nice! I saw the Tractors live in concert at a small club called the Cotillion. They rocked the house.

  2. Not Adahn

    he branding sounds just as bad as the product. Also, where’s my fucking McRib? I thought they’d be here a week ago, dammit.

    Surprise!

    The McRib is the first product made from the new textured vegetable protein! And you didn’t even notice!

    • sloopyinca

      Don’t you put that evil on me. Just don’t do it.

    • UnCivilServant

      Because it hasn’t even arried yet?

    • blackjack

      With pot being legal in more places, expect many more bizarre foods to be made available.

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        “Locusts-Pops!” Crunchy goodness and saves the crops!

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I once saw Chirps cricket chips at Grocery Outlet. Did not buy.

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        England?

      • UnCivilServant

        Is the 15th not on practiscore? The most recent event is back in july.

      • Not Adahn

        It’s on there. I registered. Name is “SaraSpa Steel Practice 11/15/20”

      • UnCivilServant

        Not showing up on search, nor under the club.

        … it’s under matches. Why can’t this site have one unified search?

      • Not Adahn

        Because it’s kind of terrible. But free!

      • Not Adahn

        I have no idea why Dave can’t make up his mind whether to register as “SSRG” or “SaraSpa.”

        Also, they are talking about over the winter setting up a single USPSA classifer in the adjacent pits during steel challenge weekends if you wanted ot bring hte PCC.

        Also also, everyone currently registered is going rimfire pistol. Finally, I’m ahead of the trend.

      • UnCivilServant

        I don’t have a pistol caliber carbine. I have .22s and .30 caliber full size rifles.

      • Not Adahn

        I’ll see if I have a lower that

        a) hasn’t been converted to left-handed yet and

        b) will be non-felonious when matchet to one of my 9mm uppers.

        I’m actually very interested in this, but I don’t know if the buffer can be adjusted for blowback uppers.

      • Not Adahn

        me no tpye gud daywise-now

      • blighted_non_millenial

        Sausage Gravy goes on biscuits. Period. Full stop.

      • Nephilium

        /goes to the local diner that has a sausage gravy drenched wet breakfast burrito

        What was that?

      • Not Adahn

        Sausage gravy is the platonic ideal of French fry dipping sauces.

      • Not Adahn

        Most bought biscuits are terrible and not worth eating.

        There is exactly one place near me that makes good biscuits, and they charge $4/per. I still get them occasionally.

      • blighted_non_millenial

        Geography is destiny. New York can’t possibly have good biscuits or sausage gravy for that matter.

      • Not Adahn

        Not impossible. Just damned rare.

        What’s worse is that Upstate has terrible pizza for the most part. In the past nine years (holy fuck I”ve been here a long time) I’ve found three good places, only one of which delivers to me. Still no good Chinese, Thai or Vietnamese.

      • juris imprudent

        Damn, I thought I lived in the boonies, but we do have good Chinese and Thai reasonably close. Vietnamese – that we have to go to Harrisburg for.

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        We have all of those things but we are a government town.

      • Not Adahn

        There is a particular style of Chinese food here that does not match anything I’ve had in Austin or San Francisco. Most other Asian dishes sold here are the same with different sauces.

        There was a good Japanese place, but I think it closed peranently during hte shutdown.

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        We had a Shezchuan place here years ago. We’re out in the boonies so everything is Cantonese.

      • Viking1865

        Well I was south of Detroit City
        I pulled in this country kitchen
        To try their brand of barbecue
        The sign said finger-lickin’
        Well I paid the tab and the lady asked me
        How’d you like my biscuit
        I’ll be honest with you ma’am
        It ain’t like mama fixed it

      • Trigger Hippie

        I’d like to start a new point of contention amongst us here….sausage gravy is disgusting.

      • blighted_non_millenial

        You probably put pineapples in it.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Well, ya. What? Next, you’ll be telling me that spaghetti doesn’t need sugar and shouldn’t be eaten with a spoon.

      • Bill Door

        Your newsletter, I’d like to subscribe to it.

      • Bill Door

        Your newsletter, I’d like to subscribe to it.

      • Drake

        I love me some sausage gravy over my eggs. I get a side of it at breakfast whenever I’m in the south.

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        I always made my own but being a Hypoborian have no idea what the Southron recipe is.

      • Not Adahn

        1. Fry sausage in skillet
        2. Remove sausage. Pour off grease casually, do not wipe out.
        3. Sprinkle flour over grease remaining in pan. Stir over heat until the roux gets melty
        4. Add whole milk and stir. Add additional black pepper and/or salt if needed.

      • Drake

        I assume somewhere in that process you chop up the sausage?

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        look at the 3rd wave feminist here.

      • Not Adahn

        I assume somewhere in that process you chop up the sausage?

        Yanno, I thought about specifying that the sausage used in this case was the stuff that is removed from its casing prior to cooking, but I thought it was impossible that anyone beleived you made sausage gravy from sausage links.

      • UnCivilServant

        NA, there are people who need to be told to remove the sausage from the packaging.

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        Huh. Was doing it right all this time.

      • Count Potato

        That’s sawmill gravy.

      • Not Adahn

        Shit, forgot step 5:

        5. Put the sausage back into the gravy.

      • PudPaisley

        My buddy makes a great gravy with biscuits, but he uses chorizo and corn starch instead of flour. Gives it a nice heat and great after a night of heavy drinking.

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        We called it “turd-burglar” and served over mashed potatoes.

      • UnCivilServant

        You don’t want those.

  3. Not Adahn

    Shoot the Moon, a casual restaurant offering a self-service tap wall, pizza and healthy dishes,

    “one of these things is not like the others…”

    • Nephilium

      It’s better than the all vegan cocktail bar that opened up here in Cleveland. From the article:

      Cloak & Dagger will feature an all-vegan menu designed by chef Todd Kronika. Bites will include items like vegan nachos, brisket sandwiches and shish kabobs.

      • blackjack

        All vegan? We went from beef to grass fed beef to just eating the fucking grass.

      • Nephilium

        I was interested in checking them out (I do like a good cocktail) until that part dropped. They’re even avoiding honey in cocktails and using a substitute. Free the bees or some such.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        agave syrup?

      • UnCivilServant

        By definition, it is not a brisket sandwich without meat from the brisket, which is a particular section of an animal. You cannot have a vegan brisket sandwich. Period.

      • Not Adahn

        That train sailed way back when chicken and shrimp “fajitas” became popular.

      • Nephilium

        There was a pizza chain that moved into the Cleveland area a while back, they sent out mailers and I noticed something. On their meat topping list, there was an asterisk indicating if something was pork free. Alright, there’s a not-insignificant Muslim population in the areas around them, that could make sense. Then I noticed that there was an asterisk next to bacon. Those bastards were trying to pass off turkey bacon as real ‘merican bacon!

        They did not survive in this area.

      • Sean

        turkey bacon

        *racks AK*

      • Nephilium

        So I remembered the name of the place (PizzaBOGO), and found their menu. It gets worse now… they’re now saying none of their meat toppings have pork. One of those toppings is smoked ham. They’re selling PORK free smoked ham!

        FFS, I would take pork roll over pork free smoked ham every day of the week!

      • rhywun

        I have a hard time finding actual sausage that isn’t made out of chicken.

      • UnCivilServant

        Odd, I would have to go out of my way to find chicken sausage.

      • Not Adahn

        Yeah, we have a huge expat population onsite from countries that forbid pork and those that love pork.

        Each station has vegetarian, pork-free, and pork-containing options. And every Friday serves meatless lasagna for the natives.

      • UnCivilServant

        Is it at least loaded with cheese?

      • Not Adahn

        It looks to be, but I’ve never gotten it.

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        Duck bacon on the other hand is tasty

      • DEG

        Seconded.

  4. Sean

    Leave Britney alone!

    • R C Dean

      Still would, tho.

  5. The Late P Brooks

    Paging Dr Lolzy McButthurt

    Biden may still eke out a victory. But after the Trump administration undermined or contradicted its own medical experts on everything from wearing masks to reopening schools at the beginning of the outbreak, the tight race feels like a slap in the face for many physicians fighting the pandemic .

    Texas and Florida — where there have been more than 960,000 and 827,000 confirmed cases, respectively, so far — solidly went for Trump even though Democrats thought the outbreak gave them a fighting chance in some red states.

    “Many of us are now questioning whether we’re speaking into an echo chamber,” said Miami-based physician Dr. Krishna Komanduri. Miami-Dade County dealt a big blow to the Biden campaign in Florida and helped seal the state for Trump

    ——-

    “I really thought that our experiences in the trenches would impact people’s voting decisions,” added Dr. Avital O’Glasser, an associate professor and hospitalist at Oregon Health & Science University.

    Trump’s response to the virus reflects a disregard for scientific expertise, including his downplaying of the importance of masks. She thought Biden would win in a landslide, so the tight race is a real wake-up call, she said. Even if Biden ultimately wins, she’s been thinking about what she could do to communicate more effectively to people in the future.

    “Our country doesn’t have the science and math education that a lot of other countries have,” she said.

    When will we finally prioritize education spending, so our children can be properly indoctrinated?

    We are a great disappointment to our betters.

    I feel teh shame.

    • sloopyinca

      “Those assholes value freedom more than government-forced safety measures that the government condemned just a few months earlier? We need to be even harsher next time!”

    • juris imprudent

      NY went Democratic because of COVID – they had far more dead voters!

    • Trigger Hippie

      ‘Even if Biden ultimately wins, she’s been thinking about what she could do to communicate more effectively to people in the future.’

      Ah, the old “We just didn’t explain things well enough to the idiots” routine.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Obama loves that schtick.

    • rhywun

      Democrats thought the outbreak gave them a fighting chance in some red states

      Says it all right there.

    • Cy

      “Our country doesn’t have the science and math education that a lot of other countries have,” she said.

      I don’t think that we’re the ones having issues with math. Also, FUCK OFF SLAVER.

      • juris imprudent

        We also have a lower death rate from COVID (outside of NY/NJ) than a lot of other countries you innumerate cunt.

      • EvilSheldon

        One of the biggest problems with the medical profession at large, is their generally inadequate grasp of mathematics.

      • prolefeed

        It is a career refuge for people good at certain things. Math is not on the required list, based on my ex and my daughter, both in medicine. So it disproportionately attracts the innumerate.

    • EvilSheldon

      “…she’s been thinking about what she could do to communicate more effectively to people in the future.

      You could try not being wrong about everything. That might help.

      • prolefeed

        “…she’s been thinking about what she could do to communicate more effectively to people in the future.

        You could take this advice: “it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to talk and remove all doubt.”

    • Brawndo

      “Our country doesn’t have the science and math education that a lot of other countries have,” she said.

      Yea, other countries aren’t using Common Core.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Some of us remember all those doctors that signed a letter saying protesting is okay.

      • Not Adahn

        Hell, I remember tose doctors writeing excuse notes for union memebers at the anti-Walker protests in WI.

    • Rebel Scum

      Trump’s response to the virus reflects a disregard for scientific expertise

      In what way?

    • Agent Cooper

      “including his downplaying of the importance of masks”

      Fucking gaslighting.

      Social distancing is more important than mask usage.

  6. Drake

    Murphy wasted no time after the election re-imposing his medical dictatorship with the most arbitrary rules imaginable.

    • Idle Hands

      The one good thing that comes from Corona Virus is the hastening demise of the public schools. Unfortunately the price to pay for that is going to be really high.

  7. rhywun

    I think I’ll pass on the McFaceplant.

    • blackjack

      I think it’s just a rebranding. There’s no way Mcburgers were ever made from cow meat, in the first place.

      • Trigger Hippie

        I damn well know the version I was served for school lunches was soy based but I’m pretty sure the McRib is animal parts based…too much gristle for it not to be.

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        The best part about those cheap burgers thirty years ago was biting down on actual bone.

      • Trigger Hippie

        *shudders*

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        Yeah, beef doesn’t make me fart like that.

      • CPRM

        Everything, and I mean everything, makes me fart. I may have a medical condition.

  8. The Late P Brooks

    Others doctors have been doing a lot of soul-searching about what their patients might be going through, and how they can better relate to them.

    Dr. Laolu Fayanju, a family medicine doctor based in Ohio, treats patients in so-called Rust Belt cities like Youngstown.

    He’s heard from a lot of his patients that they’ve been having a difficult time during the pandemic and are feeling lonely and isolated. Others are concerned about their job prospects, and felt emboldened by Trump’s promises to bring back manufacturing jobs.

    He’s recognizing that many of those patients handed Trump a win in Ohio.

    Stupid peasants, thinking they should be allowed to control their own lives. Self-ownership is a dangerous, outmoded fiction in our kinder, gentler 21st century world.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      You’re a doctor. Do your damn job and try to heal your patients’ physical ailments. Stay out of their lives otherwise. Arrogant asshole.

    • leon

      Once we purge the scourge of individualism from the world we will have the new Soviet man!

      I like how Young adult Dystopian fiction is often cast aside as juvenile, yet the people who do so for political reasons never come up with new arguments. They repeat the same shit given in those novels.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      “Been in practice 3-5 years” (source: US News)

    • db

      I know a doctor who works in a pediatric unit in eastern Ohio; she is totally fed up with the ‘vid bullshit. Basically no chance that most of her patients will even get the sniffles from it.

    • Idle Hands

      It’s really hard not to get end of free society vibes from these types of articles.

    • prolefeed

      He’s heard from a lot of his patients that they’ve been having a difficult time during the pandemic and are feeling lonely and isolated.

      Turns out locking people down, destroying their livelihood, and scaring them into being afraid of interacting with others has those stated side effects.

      • leon

        But i read a bunch of Austrailians on Twitter yesterday who were super thankful that the Government locked them down. Granted i don’t think it was the parents of any of the babies who died because the government wouldn’t let them be transfered to a different hospital.

    • Charlie Suet

      My respect for the difficulty of gaining medical qualifications is so great that I don’t think doctors – as human beings – are capable of being experts on anything much else. That’s before you get into the messiah complex that people who are the last resort for the desperate develop.

      Hayek and Feynman were right – the modern world is wrong. Most serious problems in life are too complicated for the understanding of any individual expert.

  9. The Late P Brooks

    The most common disorders experienced by COVID-19 survivors within 90 days of their diagnoses are anxiety, depression and insomnia, according to the study published in The Lancet Psychiatry journal.

    “People have been worried that COVID-19 survivors will be at greater risk of mental health problems, and our findings … show this to be likely,” said Paul Harrison, a professor of psychiatry at Britain’s Oxford University.

    Unanticipated consequences. Take these anti-depressants, and you’ll be fine.

    • Not Adahn

      Unanticipated consequences. Take these anti-depressants, happy release tablets and you’ll be fine.

      /Liverpool Care Pathway

    • Ted S.

      Is it me, or has there been a concerted effort in the media since the election to push the “covid long haulers” story again?

      • Idle Hands

        nah it’s real. Read one the other day about how common rehospitalizations were among previously hospitalized survivors is at like 9% which seems scary until you look at those same statistics for pneumonia which is double or the flu which is a couple % points higher.

    • Idle Hands

      These fuckers are absolute malevolent clowns,

  10. The Late P Brooks

    Oh yeah, it’s CNN. They don’t really understand how elections work or they don’t really care.

    There was a lot of sputtering outrage over at NBC, too. “We called it. That makes it official!”

    • leon

      The media is very uncomfortable with losing their power?

  11. Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

    Every time that I click on a link that stealthily mentions Rapinhoe, I immediately exit. You’ve got my click, cunte, but you don’t get my photons. Fuck you and the horse that your mom fucked.

  12. Rebel Scum

    They don’t really understand how elections work or they don’t really care.

    They understand that if Dems win or “win” everything is good and just. If a Republicans win everything is doom and gloom in our new fascist America.

  13. Drake

    Small business Glibs – How much do you have to pay for private insurance? Did it go way up after ObamaCare?

    Right now the 3 of us are on my wife’s insurance from her corporate job – which is more expensive than ever. Wondering how bad it would be if we went into business for ourselves.

    • Cy

      If you’re young. Take out catastrophic insurance and invest an extra $500 /month to use when you get older.

      If you’re older. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t pencil out, but that also determines how good your current insurance is.

      One of the main reasons I haven’t unchained my golden handcuffs is the health insurance where I work is REALLY GOOD.

    • robc

      I was self-insured pre-Obamacare and it was cheap.

      I was also male and single and in good health, so I am a bad comparison for most instances.

      • Idle Hands

        some catastrophic plans are back now that the individual mandate is gone, it just doesn’t qualify as a healthcare policy.

      • juris imprudent

        And you will pay for mandatory OB/GYN coverage and LIKE IT!

        Several years back I worked for a govt contractor that had a solid-gold insurance plan with zero copay. That had to go away as a Cadillac plan. The small company I work for now I have to pay the whole premium (pre-tax at least) and holy hell!

      • robc

        Yep, that was the first change that happened to my policy, suddenly I was covered in case I got pregnant!

      • Trigger Hippie

        “It’s every man’s right to have babies.”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I will not speak on the steps I’ve had to take in order to afford insurance for my family because reasons…

      But let me illustrate the issues with the ACA structure with a hypothetical situation:

      Assuming you have a insufficient number of employees that you can get group rates, each employee is individually rated. This becomes financially untenable for almost all small businesses who aren’t employing white collar professionals.

      So now you’re not offering insurance as a benefit. What do you do for yourself since it’s a very bad idea (hello, IRS) for the business to buy insurance for the executives and not for the employees?

      Well you’re going to be using the ACA individual market most likely.

      So the way the ACA works is that the individual plans are subsidized for a family that makes up to 400% of the federal poverty level. This year, I think that’s roughly $117K for a family of five.

      The normal premium of the ACA family plans is somewhere around $28,000/year for a family of five and the deductible will be around $15,000.

      However, if you qualify for the subsidies, that premium is offset by subsidies that bring the total cost of the plan (excluding deductible) down to about $5,000/year.

      In other words, making a single dollar over the arbitrary line of 400% of the federal poverty level costs you $20,000 in subsidies. This is reportable to the IRS and is part of your annual filings.

      So how do you think that affects business owners, particularly S-Corp, when they’re making decisions about their own salaries and business income reporting. To say the incentives are perverse is to put it mildly.

      • juris imprudent

        Wasn’t there a problem with funding the subsidies as well? I know the Dems wanted to hide how that worked.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Shit…

        Assuming you have a insufficient number of employees that you can’t get group rates

      • robc

        There is a similar cliff in the brewing industry, but fortunately it is high enough that it only effects the big craft brewers.

        The numbers have changed since I was in the industry (taxes have been lowered) but i will use old numbers as I remember.

        The excise tax on the first 60k bbls per year was $7. After that it was $18. Okay, normal marginal tax style situation. However, if your annual production exceeded 2MM per year, you didn’t get the 60k discount rate. So Bud has to pay $18 on every barrel.

        However, it means if you are near that limit, the 2,000,001st bbl is taxed at $660,018. When both Yuengling and Sam Adams got near the cliff, they paused production at about 1.9MM per year for about 2 years, then jumped to about 2.5MM bbls. IIRC, that is why Yuengling went into Ohio.

      • Drake

        Yikes, I always assumed the purpose of ObamaCare was to ruin the private insurance market and clear the way for socialized medicine. Seems to be working.

    • ElspethFlashman

      I was never able to afford a policy as a solo practitioner.

  14. Rebel Scum

    McDonald’s unveils its own meatless patty — the “McPlant”

    Pass. And I find it strange that meat haters are always trying to make things taste like meat. It is like we are supposed to actually eat meat, or something.

    • PieInTheSky

      make a list and nuke em all *

      * except Romania if on the list

    • Rebel Scum

      Seems a little early for that.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    The Bloombergers had Jeffrey Sachs on. Talk about somebody who inhabits an alternate reality; that guy is out there. I thought he was going to start weeping inconsolably as he talked about Trump’s many and varied (and nonspecific) crimes against humanity. The cognitive dissonance required to believe a) Biden will revive the economy and b) Biden will cure the plague by completely locking the economy down is impressive.

    • PieInTheSky

      You superlock down the economy for 6 months the covid magically goes away and then you fully reopen thus saving it

    • Tulip

      He can go fuck himself for what he did to Russia.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      The only time I remember Russ Roberts getting agitated on Econtalk was the last time Sachs was on.

  16. robc

    You hit #4,5,6 on the birthday war list (I am surprised Dykes is 6th). Top 3 are Jim Whitney, Jack Clark, and Norm Cash. Whitney retired in 1890, but the other two deserve mention, even if I disliked Jack Clark.

  17. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloop!

    Or is it?

    My unflagging optimism is being seriously undermined by my fuckhead coward of a governor and the fucking Branch Covidians in my midst. Rumor has it he’s going to issue a new proclamation targeted at 18-35 year olds. You know, the “asymptomatic spreaders”. So goodbye bars, restaurants and gyms.

    Fuck. Head.

    Thanks for the lynx, regardless. Shoot The Moon sounds interesting. Not good for bartenders, though…

    I have never been a TH fan, but that is a fantastic song that I really hope isn’t prophetic.

    Here’s one that seems pretty accurate, though.

    Good luck today, people. Freezing rain and snow on the docket for us!

    • Idle Hands

      the branch covidian resurgence seems to be happening everywhere throughout this country as a business owner who already thinks we are not going to survive to spring it’s concerning. Every-time I think I get a handle on these assholes just being nefarious power hungry retards it still baffles my mind how much damage they are willing to do and expect zero repercussions for it I can’t imagine being that sociopathic and keep trying to rationalize it to some non-nefarious run of the mill stupidity and it never works. It’s just religous and non rational and it’s tough to imagine being that irrational and inconsistent.

      • leon

        The recovery can’t begin until Biden is in office?

      • Sean

        It’s a distraction from the corrupt election.

    • Trigger Hippie

      ‘I have never been a TH fan’

      Well, fine then! See if I care!

      *sniffles, kicks rocks, shuffles away*

      • Tundra

        Nah, dude. Everybody loves you.

        It is known.

    • prolefeed

      Mostly too skinny and pale for my tastes, but 6 was literally a winner.

    • juris imprudent

      Can they just disbar the assholes on our state SC?

    • Ted S.

      I can’t wait for the judicial gymnastics to claim that the Ohio AG doesn’t have standing.

      • CPRM

        He doesn’t need standing, it is filed as a ‘Friend of the Court’ briefing, which is testimony on another case. He isn’t perusing the case.

  18. leon

    Chris Hayes isn’t happy that some in the GOP aren’t going to just roll over.

    Said there is a “burn the county down” vibe coming from the GOP.

    I wonder if that’s kind of like the vibe where antifa riots for 180 days prior to an election and then Riots on the Capitol the day after the election.

    • juris imprudent

      Strange then that it is Portland that is still being burnt down or vandalized, isn’t it?

    • prolefeed

      Said there is a “burn the county down” vibe coming from the GOP.

      I heard one of my in-laws talking about “going scorched earth” to win the election, and he’s not GOP — so, progjection?

      • Rebel Scum

        Scorched earth such as apparently committing fraud on a massive scale throwing the integrity of the system in question for roughly half the country?

      • Ted S.

        Considering the Democrats’ rioting last inauguration day, yeah, I’d say progjection.

  19. Rebel Scum

    Suburban counties face 10-person gathering limit, Pritzker raises possibility of another stay-at-home order as coronavirus surge continues unabated

    Ignore this nonsense if you value freedom.

  20. PieInTheSky

    Thread:
    This is a grossly simplistic mischaracterization of the litigation over ballot-watching in Philadelphia.

    https://twitter.com/buffalobuffs/status/1325539472621101059

    this cannot be true right? Putting an observer in a part of a huge room where they can barely see and claim that according to the law they were in the room. Because it is weird as fuck

    • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

      Shut up, Pie. You’re not even a Citizen!

      • PieInTheSky

        I can buy a fake ID as good as any murican

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        You missed a golden opportunity. I’d have replied “Yeah, but I still voted for Biden!”

      • PieInTheSky

        Some things you don’t joke about

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        On a site where the running gags include pedophilia, forest/ocean/snow/space rape, and where your fellow commenters frequently accuse you of being a soulless undead minion of evil, it is good to draw a line somewhere.

      • Nephilium

        He knows he has to Vote or Die!

      • zwak

        Yeah, but you don’t need it to vote!

      • Tres Cool

        He’s not your guy, buddy !

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      It’s one of those things where they might actually be adhering to the letter of the law but not its intent. Then again, they might just be violating it altogether.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s treading the very edge of legality and daring you to challenge it.

  21. robc

    Re: the scotus article

    Why would a company use covid as a reason to deny coverage? That makes no sense. If you have already had it and recovered, that would be a benefit! No need to worry about paying off for future covid costs, no need to pay for vaccine. Its the most favorable pre-existing condition possible.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      We don’t know the long term effects! Except for the athletes where there seems to be no effect.

    • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

      Yep. Shame about the bolt-ons, though.

  22. Rebel Scum

    that could leave 20 million uninsured

    Sure. Also irrelevant even if true.

    • Drake

      LOL – Canadian Tuxedo!

      Enjoy your privilege.

  23. Idle Hands

    Has anyone seen the lefties photoshopping maga hats on the libs reactions from 2016 on twitter? They can’t seem to find any butthurt maga people in the wild so they are projecting their feeling from 2016 onto their opponents, it’s really something.

    • Cy

      Why would conservative cry? We still have all of the guns, ammo and resources.

      • Idle Hands

        I think they think conservative have the same amount of mentally ill cat ladies as they have on their team, which they probably do but generally they are married so they have some tether to reality.

  24. Rebel Scum

    Fair and balanced.

    McEnany said, “There is only one party in America trying to keep observers out of the count room, that party my friends is the Democrat party. You don’t take these positions because you want an honest election. You don’t oppose an audit of the vote because you want an accurate count. You don’t oppose our effort at sunlight at transparency because you have nothing to hide. You take these positions because you are a welcoming fraud and you are welcoming illegal voting.”

    Cavuto said, “Whoa, whoa, whoa, I just think we have to be very clear. She’s charging the other side is welcoming fraud and welcoming illegal voting, unless she has more details to back that up, I can’t in good countenance continue showing you this.”

    He continued, “I want to make sure that maybe they do have something back that up. That is an explosive charge to make at the other side is effectively rigging and cheating. If she does bring proof of that we will take you back.”

    Carlson, The Stache and Gutfield are going to be at OAN within a year.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Don’t any true conservatives besides Rachel Campos-Duffy want to work in TV?

      • juris imprudent

        If you want to work in the media you can’t be a true conservative. You have to be the obedient house-conservative.

  25. leon

    I do not believe Trump will have any success in the courts, but i have enjoyed the concern trolling from the left about how dangerous it is that he won’t concede and it’s going to the courts, when that is exactly what the signaled they would do if Biden lost narrowly.

    • Rebel Scum

      Republicans are fascists for seeking legal remedies. Democrats are noble warriors for just for seeking legal remedies. It is known.

      • Rebel Scum

        for justice*

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Depends on how obvious the fraud is or isn’t once they really do start bearing down on it IMHO. Ambiguous well done fraud, you’re likely correct; obvious sloppy fraud, I think he has a fairly good chance to have it addressed at least although he could still lose in the end because he might have actually lost.

      • robc

        Best case scenario is that there is an acknowledgement of fraud but it isn’t large enough to overturn (I think it is, if they tracked it all down – but I don’t think courts are going to find it that way) and a bunch of people go to jail and OH/FL type improvements are made in key states to prevent it in the future.

        GA should be able to make that latter happen.

    • prolefeed

      Apparently their memories do not go back to 2000, where Gore refused to concede and fought it through the courts until SCOTUS slapped them down. Trump is pulling a Gore.

  26. Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

    Yep. Shame about the bolt-ons, though.

  27. PieInTheSky

    [ Lingerie Studio Episode7] Slow Motion Lingerie Collection /

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JpCjedAje0

    NSFW about 1:30 to 2 min in. See Q those are some actually nice tits, proper size.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Keep fear alive!

    Former FDA chief Dr. Scott Gottlieb warned that the coronavirus pandemic is “about to explode” across the United States as the country confirmed more than 10 million coronavirus cases on Monday, a bleak milestone just 10 days after reaching the 9 million mark amid a record surge in daily infections.

    On Sunday, the country added approximately 105,000 cases, and Johns Hopkins reported that it’s the fifth day in a row where Covid cases topped 100,000.

    “The challenge is this virus is distributed everywhere across the country right now,” Gottlieb said. “We’re going to have a really significant epidemic wave across the entire nation and, unfortunately, it’s going to cause a lot of death and disease before we’re able to have this therapeutic counterattack, not just with the vaccine, but also with these therapeutic antibodies.”

    What we need now is a huge spike in “cases” so Joe’s (PBUH) miraculous victory over the Trump Plague will look even better.

    Bow down, America. Express your gratitude.

  29. Stinky Wizzleteats

    “The Mcplant”
    I’ll Mcpass, thanks.

  30. Swiss Servator

    “Theological heavyweight and all-around religious badass Martin Luther was born on this day.”

    +1 Here I Stand.

    • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

      Shame about the Jewish Question, though.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Proof that Luther was the spiritual father of Hitler! And if you’re a Protestant of any denomination your literally a Nazi supporter!….

        Did I do that properly?

      • Swiss Servator

        He was a bit worked up – Lutherans are a lot more mellow now.

      • Count Potato

        I’m sure he had his reasons.

      • Swiss Servator

        Eh, the Diet sanctioning him might have had a bit of an unsettling effect.

  31. Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

    Talking Heads fan from about 1982 or so. David Byrne still makes interesting music – https://youtu.be/hpPYKJAnwUo

    • Drake

      He has a special running on cable (HBO I think) right now. Does some new stuff and a few old Talking Heads tunes.

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        That’s really neat! They were never a top twenty band for me but they were always interesting.

    • sloopyinca

      Treat yourself and find Byrne’s “Rei Momo” album. He gets a ton of Latin musicians and there’s a bunch of different styles on it.
      It’s an excellent album, IMO.

    • Idle Hands

      Dr. Fauci getting 4 votes absolutley disturbs me to my core. Any justice in this world and that wop motherfucker would be mandated to living under a bridge.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Especially after we all saw how he throws a ball.

    • Not Adahn

      No Vermont glibs helped out Semi-Bright Border collie? OR Banginglc1? Or Zombie Almanian? OR Zardoz?

      I am disappoint.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    It’s really hard not to get end of free society vibes from these types of articles.

    Once they have locked Big Nanny in as your primary care provider, your behavior will be under constant review and adjustment. You know, for reasons.

    “We’re providing you with this wonderful free health care. Do your part, and stop doing things we define as hazardous or unhealthy.”

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I look forward to the day we’re all strapped to a gurney, locked in a nice safe room, and force fed an easily digestible and vitamin rich vanilla paste. Hey, if it’s for our own good, why not?

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        vanillin

    • Agent Cooper

      ACA was the camel nose under the tent, or whatever that stupid expression is.

      • leon

        I thought it was the proverbial Camel in the kids mouth. Once in you’re on a path of doing hard drugs.

      • Plisade

        Camel toe in a pitched tent?

  33. Rebel Scum

    One sane Democrat.

    “There’s a lot of people are concerned. There’s a lot of fear tactics are being used right now, Bret. If both of the Georgia senators were elected from the Democratic Party, then that would be 50-50 if both Dan Sullivan and Thom Tillis win. 50-50 means there’s a tie but if one senator does not vote on the Democratic side, there is no tie and there is no bill,” he explained to Fox News’ Bret Baier. “So I can commit to you here tonight, and I can commit to all of your viewers and everyone else that’s watching, I wanna lay those fears. I wanna rest those fears for you right now because when they talk about whether it be packing the courts or ending the filibuster, I will not vote to do that. I will not vote to pack the courts. I will not vote to end the filibuster.”

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      One Democrat that knows on which side his bread is buttered. If it became politically advantageous for him to do so he’d advocate for those things too.

      • Drake

        The guy who wants to keep getting reelected in the reddest of red states.

    • R C Dean

      I wanna rest those fears for you right now because when they talk about whether it be packing the courts or ending the filibuster, I will not vote to do that.

      I’ll believe it when I see it. He won’t be up for re-election for how many years? When Dem Reps were not voting for OCare, enough pressure was put on them to flip their votes even though they had to know it would cost their seats.

      And the left has a vast and well-funded backup plan for any elected official who takes a bullet for them. No-show professor and/or consultancy jobs, cushy and lucrative board seats, its not like if he falls on his electoral sword he’s gonna miss any meals.

  34. Count Potato

    “Don Jnr accuses head of DOJ election crimes unit of being the ‘Deep State’ after he resigned in protest over Bill Barr authorizing federal prosecutors across US to pursue ‘substantial allegations’ of voter fraud despite little evidence

    Donald Trump Jr has accused the Justice Department official who oversees investigations of voter fraud of being a member of the ‘Deep State’, after the official dramatically quit on Monday night.

    Richard Pilger resigned after Attorney General William Barr authorized federal prosecutors across the U.S. to pursue ‘substantial allegations’ of voting irregularities before the 2020 presidential election is certified, despite little evidence of fraud.

    Pilger, director of the Election Crimes Branch of the Department of Justice since 2010, stepped down within hours of Barr’s announcement, in an email he sent to colleagues that was obtained by The New York Times.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8931713/Barr-OKs-election-probes-despite-little-evidence-fraud.html

    • Not Adahn

      Being a career bureaucrat is kind of the definition of being Deep State, no?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’d say if you’re investigating election crimes for the FBI for years on end, you haven’t actually done your job in a long time.

      • juris imprudent

        And that man didn’t do what my daddy told him to do!!!

    • wdalasio

      “Don Jnr accuses head of DOJ election crimes unit of being the ‘Deep State’ after he resigned in protest over Bill Barr authorizing federal prosecutors across US to pursue ‘substantial allegations’ of voter fraud despite little evidence

      Given that he met with Lois Lerner (who pleaded the Fifth) to discuss opportunities to prosecute the Tea Parties, I’d say Deep State is about right.

    • robc

      How do you get evidence without investigating?

      It should be like IRS audits. You run statistics, find red flags, audit those. Plus audit a few random individuals. This should be done every single election. If the audits lead to real evidence, you dig deep.

      • leon

        That is always the game played with Election Fraud. “No evidence” so we shouldn’t investigate it. I in part think that the lethargy on the part of the media to investigate fraud is that Elections are sacrosanct and even implying that they may not be pure shakes the very roots of the state religion.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        They’ve been elevating Stacey Abrams to holy warrior level for the past few years because the election was “stolen” from her, They’re fundamentally biased and sincerely do not care if anybody knows it anymore.

      • leon

        They aren’t biased, they have an agenda, and the agenda is to dominate you and your family from now for all eternity.

      • robc

        Can we send Jimmy Carter to Detroit to investigate?

      • wdalasio

        I in part think that the lethargy on the part of the media to investigate fraud is that Elections are sacrosanct and even implying that they may not be pure shakes the very roots of the state religion.

        Maybe. I think it’s probably more a bias thing. And not even intentional. I think most major reporters work out of a few select cities – NY, DC, Chicago, LA,, etc.). The thing is, all those cities have long histories of crooked machines that fixed the vote. And, in those cities, the machine politicians are sort of romanticized. So, a little bit of ballot box stuffing or greasing of wheels doesn’t get seen as “corruption”, it’s just the machine taking care of things.

    • Cy

      And then the head of the Voter Fraud department resigned…

      Hmm… I wonder what he’s been doing this last 2 weeks? His secretary?

    • Florida Man

      Unwarranted NSA spying on all Americans = if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

      Statistically unlikely voting patterns that all favor democrats = you have no proof, so you can’t investigate.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        *peels back the layers of the onion*

        Hmm, which is the overriding principle here? Ah, I have it! All for the growth of the state, nothing for the reduction of the state.

        And they call me a cynic ?

    • Drake

      Weird the guy would quit the first time anyone asked him to actually do his job.

      • juris imprudent

        He didn’t join the government to actually work you know.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    I look forward to the day we’re all strapped to a gurney, locked in a nice safe room, and force fed an easily digestible and vitamin rich vanilla paste. Hey, if it’s for our own good, why not?

    What was that movie… Wall-E, maybe? with all the people bolted into their seats on the spaceship? That’s in my head, now.

    • Not Adahn

      And forks are so overtly phallocentric/misogynistc they have no place in a modern progressive society.

  36. UnCivilServant

    Update – I checked all of the outlets on my uninterruptable power supply and found that those marked “Surge Only” had power. So I pulled the battery, reseated it, and started it back up. Now I am getting power from everything I should. Apparently the battery came loose when I moved it.

    • UnCivilServant

      And now my desktop is back on protected power instead of directly into the mains.

      Yay.

      • UnCivilServant

        Though there is an ergonomics problem with these monitors.

        The comfortable viewing distance puts my hands about a foot away from the keyboard. I need to get or make some sort of keyboard shelf that will allow me to sit where I can see the monitors clearly and to type.

      • Cy

        I’m slumming it. I used a bunch of old textbooks to raise my monitors to a decent height.

      • UnCivilServant

        The height is fine, it’s the fact that they’re so big that the spot to see comfortably is further back. And I can’t move the monitors on account of there being a wall and no more desk behind them, so I have to move myself, and then the keyboard needs to float in midair to use it.

      • UnCivilServant

        Even if I wall mount them and pull the whole desk forward, that would cause more trouble in random inconvenience than getting a shelf for the keyboard.

    • Trolleric the Goth

      oooooh who called it? I did.

  37. leon

    UT4 still hasn’t been called, and RCP has it within .2%. If this does flip back to the GOP this will be the second time in as many elections that this seat has flipped.

    • juris imprudent

      Re-apportionment will fix that!

    • prolefeed

      I’m kind of puzzled at why UT4 was drawn as such a swing district. You look at a map of the Utah congressional districts, it wouldn’t be too hard to shave a bit off the SLC portion of that district during reapportionment and tack on a few deep Red counties farther south, without threatening any of the other solid Red seats.

      • leon

        Yeah, i don’t have access to the data, so i’m not sure, though Utah/SLC counties that UT4 covers has exploded in the last 10 years, so maybe it wasn’t as much of a swing district at the time it was made and so the Legislature thought it was best to have 3 completely safe districts and 1 more swing district.

        Also at the time 4 was represented by Matheson at the beginning, so it was already a Democratic seat, so really it went from having 2 Safe GOP and 1 Dem to 3 Safe GOP and 1 swing district.

    • prolefeed

      The most swing district of all seems to be Iowa2, where they’re showing as 35 votes apart.

  38. Certified Public Asshat

    I just picked up my Covid vaccine at Fatbuger in the valley and you can too! I got the needle while killing a fatburger, fries, and a shake. If you go before ten you get a free cigarette.— Tim Dillon (@TimJDillon) November 10, 2020

    I like Tim and his joke is decent*, but I know he also supports medicare for all. How are we any better at preventative medicine with the government officially in control?

    *sorry for shitting on it*

    • Idle Hands

      I don’t know how anyone could be for medicare for all after watching how the cancel culture wars are going and the absolute psychotic belligerent people on both sides who want to punish their enemies at all costs would be in charge of dispensing it. Pretty sure their would be political strings attached to you getting gov insurance within 5 years of it passing.

  39. PieInTheSky

    Islamists behead more than 50 people on a football pitch in Mozambique then chop the bodies to pieces after abducting female villagers

    Bodies of dismembered victims were found scattered across a forest clearing
    At least 15 boys were among the victims during attack on male initiation rite
    The massacre is the latest in growing wave of violence by ISIS-linked extremists

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8932787/Islamists-behead-50-people-football-pitch-Mozambique.html

    • leon

      Really winning hearts and minds they are.

    • Cy

      Too local.

    • Not Adahn

      SMDH at Trump’s America.

  40. Rebel Scum

    Sure that is fine evidence but where is your evidence?

    “Do you know that fraudulent votes were actually cast?” said one intrepid news person. Kayleigh McEnany responded, “Ronna just told you there were 131 affidavits filed in just Michigan alone. We are aware of the reports of thousands of votes cast in Nevada that were not eligible…right now we would point you to that. That information is publicly available.”

    Lawsuit: Poll Workers Allege Voter-Coaching, Back-Dating, Cheating Occurred in Detroit Election Centers
    McDaniel jumped back in to add that the whistleblower in Michigan has sworn an affidavit alleging: being told by a supervisor to backdate ballots that came in after the legal deadline; witnessing poll workers encouraging voters to vote straight Democrat; and even poll workers going into the booths with voters. These allegations of illegal votes being counted must be examined through the legal process. The press conveniently continued to ignore the evidence presented to them and pretended McDaniel never said it. “Why aren’t you worried about these irregularities?” McDaniel asked over a member of the press heckling her with stupid questions.

    “Do you have any evidence you can show us today that illegal ballots were cast?” a member of the press asked AGAIN. An exasperated McDaniel replied that backdating ballots is illegal and that would mean they were cast illegally. The press did not seem to grasp any of it. And I would bet cash money that none of the mainstream press investigates any of the affidavits or incident reports submitted to the court. Instead, they will continue to gaslight us, claiming that there is “no evidence.” This is the narrative they will go with on the evening news and half of America will never hear of the 131 affidavits taken under oath or the 2,800 incident reports of alleged voter fraud.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      That’s the thing, the evidence is now everywhere and overwhelming. I keep hearing there’s no smoking gun, but there’s thousands of smoking guns. The media has changed the definition of smoking gun to something along the lines of Biden hiring a plane to sky-write “I cheated and stole the election”.

      Correia posted another update with more evidence
      https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11/09/election-2020-the-more-fuckery-update/

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        I wish you were right but I am not hopeful.

      • Drake

        The fact that there is SO much evidence is bad in a way. The few people paying attention get overwhelmed by the tsunami of information.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        This always has been a full court press to get Trump to capitulate. This action only reinforces that premise.

      • juris imprudent

        Legally, he isn’t anything yet, as the results are not certified, let alone the EC ballots cast.

      • leon

        If you read the article it’s about having access to the Transition Stuff that you get when you’ve won the election. I guess there are some funds availalbe, and your team gets access to security breifings. (you know the stuff that Obama and Biden screwed around with Trump on). Anyway, GSA needs the federal agency to certify a “winner” so that the funds can become available, and that hasn’t happened yet (probably because enough states haven’t certified their elections yet). The Author assures you that this is “Unprecedented” even though 6 weeks ago the same media was telling you that we might not know who won for weeks or even a month after the election.

        Everything. Everything, that the media says should be considered through the lense of “How does this keep the establishment in power”?

      • Akira

        Legally, he isn’t anything yet, as the results are not certified, let alone the EC ballots cast.

        You’d never know it from the corporate media… I was stuck in a waiting room where there was some morning show on, and they were talking about “Trump disputing election results despite it being called for Biden by every major media organization including us”.

      • Rebel Scum

        Joe Biden’s team is considering legal action over the ongoing refusal to grant the president-elect a formal transition into the White House, according to reports.

        Refusal of what? The EC has not convened and inauguration day is Jan 20.

      • Viking1865

        “something along the lines of Biden hiring a plane to sky-write “I cheated and stole the election”.

        You keep Joe Biden awake for 10 hours straight with no pudding and give me ten minutes to needle and troll him, I’ll get an angry confession blurted out that starts with “Look, fat….” and ends with “Corn Pop was a bad dude.”

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      LALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU

  41. Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

    Imma gonna feast on breakfast sausage from a farmer not five miles away and some aigs that came from the cloaca of my Step-daughter’s hens. There is a huge one in the batch, hopefully another twin! When I was a cooking I’d find fours every few weeks, and once a five-yolk. They only come from the family farms.

  42. Count Potato

    “Here’s the thing: the reason there’s a thing called @FiveThirtyEight is because 538 was the margin in FL when the Republican SCOTUS reversed the 2000 election during a recount, making Dubya the president. That’s the kind of margin where races can flip. That’s not what’s up now.”

    https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1326000149550784513

    What?

    • UnCivilServant

      What they are really saying is “I am ignorant of how the electoral college works or how many electors there are”

    • leon

      who was it here that used to say: Theres 2 +2 = 5 wrong, and then there’s 2 + 2 = Hamburger level of so wrong it’s not even right to ascribe wrong to it. That is what Joy Ann Reid is.

    • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

      Just like “Moveon.org” is going to do another double gainer.

    • R C Dean

      the Republican SCOTUS reversed the 2000 election during a recount

      Err, no. If memory serves, Gore was never ahead, and SCOTUS simply stopped the endless variations of recounts his team was trying to run while mining for votes in pro-Dem districts.

      Lie less, Joy.

      • CPRM

        Hanging chad! This voter MEANT to vote for gore!

  43. Rebel Scum

    Siri gives up the game.

    Has anybody checked in on @JoeBiden since Siri started saying Kamala Harris was president? Y’all gave that man 24hrs before doing him that dirty?

  44. Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

    Britney Spears is probably sagalicious by now. Sad.

  45. CPRM

    #HamiltonElectors #NotMyPresident #ElectionInterference . In the Reboot Hillary is played by Orange Man Bad, Rotten Tomatoes Critic score: 0% Audience score: 94%

    • hayeksplosives

      Awwww. Cute round tummy.

    • Sean

      Adorbs.

  46. robc

    Re: Houston restaurant link: What is the new concept?

    • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

      Some troughs are more equal than others?

    • hayeksplosives

      Sel serve beer taps. Lots of ‘em.

      • PieInTheSky

        But I can’t pull a pint properly

      • robc

        I ask again, what is the new concept?

        That was in Bowling Green, KY 5 years ago. And BG doesn’t get anything new. Except Corvettes.

      • robc

        A neat concept, but not new, was a bar (about a decade ago) that had a stock ticker for its beer menu. As beers were purchased, the price of it would go up and the others would go down a little. So popular beers rose in price and less popular ones got cheaper until people started buying them to reach an equilibrium.

        I think they adjusted every 5 or 15 minutes, forget how it worked. And I am sure there were minimums and maximums. But the idea was interesting.

      • PieInTheSky

        There was a bar in Prague where you could spend a fixed sum and it was all you can drink. But it was available since you went in the tap room until you went out. There was no going out and going back in again. The kicker was there were no toilets in the tap room so it was all you can drink until you really need to go

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I think fixed sum, all you can drink bar specials are illegal in VA, at least it was a decade ago, to nanny-state against binge drinking.

        The bar I used to frequent tried to get around this by having a Monday night special where they would fill any mug you brought in for something like a buck. Big gulps from the 7/11 next door were popular.

      • PieInTheSky

        do they still allow bottomless mimosas at brunch? brunch is not a bar per se

      • robc

        In KY, you couldn’t see for less than cost.

        One of the funny results is it was illegal to sell beer buy one get one free, as the free one was below cost. However, you could see 2 for the price of 1 as long as your mark up was high enough.

      • PieInTheSky

        In KY, you couldn’t see for less than cost. – wow seeing costs money in the US? I blame savage capitalism

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I have no idea about bottomless mimosas. Liquor laws are sometimes not enforced at high-end places. I remember my aunt occasionally taking me to dinner at her club and being able to order liquor while clearly being underaged.

      • l0b0t

        I stand by the claim that New Orleans, LA has the only sensible liquor laws in the nation. No time/place restrictions, no bans on public consumption, grocers/gas stations/restaurants/etc. may sell both beer/wine and distilled beverages for onsite or to-go consumption; it was hard acclimating to a more restrictive location.

      • Nephilium

        I imagine there were some discreetly filled pint glasses in that establishment.

  47. The Late P Brooks

    Islamists behead more than 50 people on a football pitch in Mozambique then chop the bodies to pieces after abducting female villagers

    These are the people President Ballgag’s transition team should be reaching out to.

  48. leon

    Speaking of 538, Has Nate Silver declared victory because his Model was right about something that he had at least a 50% shot at getting right? Or is he humbled by the fact that the polls he depended on were once again all bullshit? Will he stop using Quipinacs “Biden +14” in Winsconsin polls?

  49. Count Potato

    “Dc @MayorBowser & staff attended @JoeBiden victory speech in Wilmington, DE Saturday. Delaware on the Mayor’s list of “High Risk” states which would require quarantine after returning. Bowser staff says the trip was “essential travel” exempted under Mayor’s order. @nbcwashington”

    https://twitter.com/SegravesNBC4/status/1325899794146058242

  50. Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

    I wish you were right but I am not hopeful.

    • PieInTheSky

      hope spring eternal

  51. Idle Hands

    https://freebeacon.com/democrats/d-c-officials-ask-businesses-to-take-down-boards/

    Washington, D.C., officials are asking shopkeepers to remove plywood boards protecting their stores, claiming that “no credible threats of violence” exist despite left-wing groups’ planned post-election demonstrations.

    Businesses and government agencies in the nation’s capital, dozens of which were damaged during anti-police protests this summer, boarded up windows and entryways in preparation for potentially violent post-election protests.

    On Saturday, the Associated Press declared Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden the election’s winner, leading D.C. mayor Muriel Bowser’s (D.) administration to make the request.

    What about the poor boys and the nazi’s unrest after their hero lost?

    • Idle Hands

      https://twitter.com/SegravesNBC4/status/1325899794146058242

      Also from the same peoples mayor-

      Dc@MayorBowser & staff attended @JoeBiden
      victory speech in Wilmington, DE Saturday. Delaware on the Mayor’s list of “High Risk” states which would require quarantine after returning. Bowser staff says the trip was “essential travel” exempted under Mayor’s order. @nbcwashington

      Laws are for little people.

    • leon

      A convinent narrative to soil the waters, but now that the Left wing riot is over, no one will ever mention any of the riots again.

      • juris imprudent

        Portland haz a sad.

      • leon

        Portland is the best evidence the left has. The mayor and the governor have said that it was all white supremacists doing.

  52. Rebel Scum

    Nothing to see here.

    I directly observed, on a daily basis, City of Detroit election workers and employees coaching and trying to coach voters to vote for Joe Biden and the Democrat party. I witnessed these workers and employees encouraging voters to do a straight Democrat ballot. I witnessed these election workers and employees going over to the voting booths with voters in order to watch them vote and coach them for whom to vote. …

    During the last two weeks while working at this satellite location, I was specifically instructed by my supervisor not to ask for a driver’s license or any photo I.D. when a person was trying to vote.

    I observed a large number of people who came to the satellite location to vote in-person, but they had already applied for an absentee ballot. These people were allowed to vote in-person and were not required to return the mailed absentee ballot or sign an affidavit that the voter lost the mailed absentee ballot.

    Absentee ballots that were received in the mail would have the voter’s signature on the envelope. While I was at the TCF Center, I was instructed not to look at any of the signatures on the absentee ballots, and I was instructed not to compare the signature on the absentee ballot with the signature on file.

  53. leon

    Another thing everyon who is pushing the fraud angle is forgetting is that i highly down many people on Joe’s side even cares. It’s like “If we produce X amount of evidence, people will demand change”. This is not what is going to happen. The people who voted for Biden couldn’t care less if he won fairly or not (and vice-versa if the shoe was on the other foot). The fact that the vast majority of them will be spoon fed their opinion from CNN also means that they will never see anything that is “conclusive”, because CNN will never tell them that it is conclusive.

    • Idle Hands

      of course not orange hitler must be defeated at all costs, even if we become facists and destroy people’s business’s over the china flu or riots, lie and cheat in an election or get people fired for having moderate political positions.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      I don’t think anyone is forgetting that. The fraud isn’t to convince people on Joe’s side or the media. The fraud is for the people who voted for Trump or care if we have finally made the jump into full-on tyranny with soviet style vote rigging. I’m not convinced the Supreme Court doesn’t care about popular opinion and there needs to be a very angry and riled up election-stolen side to counteract the pro-Biden side.

      A fair Biden win would not be fun but is whatever. Fraud committed on this scale is a different story altogether.

  54. db

    Hypothetical: propose a bill in the Senate to reduce the IRS auditing staff to be equivalent to the staff used to audit national elections.

    • leon

      tHe goP iS uNdeRMinIng OuR dEmOCraCy by hOLLowInG OuT oUR inSTiTuTiOnS

      • db

        Oh right, it should be an executive order.

  55. The Late P Brooks

    The people who voted for Biden couldn’t care less if he won fairly or not

    Exactly. They WANT Biden. How they get him is irrelevant.

    By hook, or by crook.

    • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

      That’s what bothers me so much about this bullshit. I have a finely-honed, razor-sharp idea of what is fair.

    • hayeksplosives

      If this goes to the Supremes, ACB is going to be pilloried no matter what she does if it splits 4-4 without her.

      • leon

        Has she said she would recuse herself?

      • Viking1865

        It would be absurd to recuse herself. Every single justice was appointed by a President, and all Presidents are politicians. Shit, Kagan and Sotomayor were appointed by Biden’s old boss. But it’s the typical bullshit were proggy ideologues are just “unbiased truth tellers”

  56. hayeksplosives

    Glad Flacco is back after his injuries (even though the Jets couldn’t close the deal on last nights game. I thought he’d retired.

    He’s one of 5 brothers, with 1 sister, and he and his wife have 5 Sons and 1 daughter. Kind of funny.

    His kids can go on play dates with Phillip Rivers’ brood.

    I think Adrian Peterson has 5 kids too but they all have different baby mommas. Rivers and Flacco are married to their original sweethearts and wanted big Catholic families. At least they can afford nannies.

    • PieInTheSky

      Joseph Vincent Flacco (born January 16, 1985) is an American football quarterback for the New York Jets – I though the jets had a fancy young quarterback what happened to that one? Or was it the Giants? One of RR Martins teams anyhoo

      • hayeksplosives

        Sam Darnold (the Jets original starter this season, is no ones idea of fancy.

      • PieInTheSky

        was he not a high draft pick? Are not high draft picks supposed to be good? Then again in basketball there are plenty who are not.

    • leon

      Stacy Abrams is entirely a media Creation, like Beto O’Rurke. She became a darling because she (like beto) “almost” won an election in a tradtionaly Red state. So she gets pushed from failure to failure upwards and onwards. I’ve said this before but i tend to agree with malice. the Media are not parts of the DNC. The DNC is the political arm of the Media.

    • Plisade

      Watching this just pisses me off for this reason… I’m not a Republican but that vid initially made *me* feel like a hypocrite. Am I becoming tribalized?

      • Rebel Scum

        Perhaps it has something to do with one tribe openly wanting you impoverished and enslaved.

      • leon

        In the same boat.

        In 2018 and 2016 very dismissive of the claims by the Dems of fraud. The Russians was fairly easy to disregard because it was so clearly had Hillary’s finger prints all over it.

        So i’m trying to be skeptical of “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire” talk. As we’ve seen from Adam Shiff and many others over the last 4 years, saying shit is cheep and there are almost no repercussions for it. So, while i do think there is enough that it warrants investigation, i’m not sure i can say i think it’s definitive nor do i think it is guaranteed that it will flip the election if we reversed the fraud that is found.

      • CPRM

        Trump won the election, via Wisconsin, on election night, not days later. It was still recounted by Hillary Jill Stein to try and prove interferons.

  57. Toxteth O'Grady

    F, I think I have your phone number somewhere in this mess (though I doubt I could find it right now even at gunpoint). You can kvetch at me if you like. No nefarious intentions.

    My dad used to keep hens but found too much heartbreak in it. Very orange yolks.

  58. Charlie Suet

    I updated my phone to iOS 14.2 a few days ago. Today I was walking along listening to music on headphones when I suddenly got a new notification noise and the volume became inaudible. I turned it back up as I read the message:

    “To protect your hearing, your iPhone will measure headphone audio levels. If you exceed the recommended 7-day limit, a notification is sent and the volume is turned down. These notifications cannot be turned off.” A further link took me to some rubbish from WHO.

    I don’t know what annoys me more – this sort of nannying or the clowns who love it and want to force it on anyone else.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Somebody probably filed a lawsuit against Apple for damaging their hearing. Or the in-house attorneys decided to stave that inevitable lawsuit off.

      Still infuriating

      • Count Potato

        Could people who are hard of hearing sue?

      • Charlie Suet

        I think it’s an EU / precautionary principle thing.

  59. leon

    Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer countered that the Republicans’ refusal to accept the election results was “extremely dangerous, extremely poisonous to our democracy.”

    “Joe Biden won the election fair and square,” Schumer said.

    See what is unprecedented about this is not that the GOP is claiming the election wasn’t won fairly, but that they won’t conceede but continue to claim the election was won unfarily.

    • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

      Gadzooks! I was a Socialist when I was a child and then I became a Man.

    • Viking1865

      In 2016 Democrats contended that a handful of Russian funded Facebook ads stole the election. They then never stopped talking about it for the next three years.

      In 2020 Republicans are contending that a wide ranging statistical disparity exists between this election and all other American Presidential elections. Presidents do not win Florida and Ohio, win the bellwether counties, pick up House seats, pick up state house seats, pick up governor’s races and then lose the Presidential election. That flies in the face of everything we know about American Presidential elections.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        ?

      • R C Dean

        Its not even that, Viking. Its that the actual results from those states, especially the urban centers, are chock full of statistical red flags that are most obviously explained by fraud. Backed up with affidavits saying that, yeah, controls were overridden in ways that facilitate fraud.

        While departing from historical norms of who wins what is interesting, its the other stuff that will win (or not) in the courts. The Repub strategy appears to be to have the courts simply throw out results from states that have sufficient doubt about the validity of their results, throwing the election to the House (per the Constitution). Interesting. The issue will come down to what constitutes sufficient doubt and what evidence will be needed to support that finding.

        Probably their best strategy, but a long shot.

      • l0b0t

        This has been the strategy advocated by Robert Barnes (on that Viva Frei podcast) from the very beginning; throw it to the House and make the Republican Whip earn his supper.

      • leon

        So you’re saying it will be a Dem Victory no matter what?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        At least it would be legal.

    • Rebel Scum

      Al Gore could not be reached for comment.

  60. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I’m done hiding my opinions outside of this site. Put me on the AOC list, because I’ve had it.

    • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

      Standing in the line for pegging?

    • PieInTheSky

      Ah an independently wealthy man I see

    • Plisade

      I’ve been unleashing a shitstorm on social media this week. It does feel good. But mine is just a storm that’s blowing out; I’m making the jump to Parler this Friday.

  61. The Late P Brooks

    Perfidy!

    The attorney general, William Barr, has authorised federal prosecutors to investigate “substantial allegations” of voter irregularities in the election, despite a total lack of evidence. Trump supporters reacted to the news with joy, while lawyers and election officials expressed skepticism. The justice department official overseeing voter fraud investigations resigned a few hours later.

    Where does “evidence” come from?

    No one knows.

    • Charlie Suet

      There was a time a few years ago when “respectable” broadsheet journalists would not have written “despite a total lack of evidence”. They would have thought it, and implied it, but style guides would have discouraged anything so opinionated.

      In 2016 the media encountered political events they didn’t expect or understand. They explained this away by pretending that lies had convinced the thick electorate to do the wrong thing.

      The journalist’s purpose since then has shifted from telling you what was said or done to trying to make sure that you’re not influenced in the “wrong” way by what was said or done.

      The self-respecting hack can no longer write “Donald Trump accused Hilary Clinton of being the origin of birtherism”. The thicko reader might think that was true! You must now write, at a bare minimum, “Donald Trump falsely accused Hilary Clinton of being the origin of birtherism”. Now thicko reader knows what to think!

      They’ve genuinely and irreparably damaged their own profession and reputations because they couldn’t understand why people might disagree with them.

      • leon

        ^^^ Spot On!

      • CatchTheCarp

        Even the local station talking heads are tacking on “without any evidence” when reporting on this story. The delivery seems forced, though.

      • leon

        Step 1: Stipulate that you will not accept anything other than a sworn confession from Joe Biden as evidence
        Step 2: point out that nothing meets your standard of evidence.
        Step 3: state that there is no evidence
        Step 4: repeat that there is no evidence

        When the casual reader reads “No Evidence” it is much easier to assume there is no evidence than to go look for it.

      • leon

        I forgot:

        step 5: when more “evidence” comes out, point back to previous times when you said that there was no evidence to show that the claim has already been debunked.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Thank you

      • Count Potato

        Wasn’t an email from HRC’s primary campaign the origin of birtherism?

    • Rebel Scum

      despite a total lack of evidence

      If only saying it would make it so.

      • db

        So, like, is this for real? Is it enough “evidence” to start an investigation?

        Forgive my pessimism, but for all these “huge breaking exclusives” on fraud and computer glitches and nefarious activity at polling locations, I’m not seeing a whole lot of action. Maybe that’s because things are being held close to the vest, but the thing is:

        For YEARS the conservative/GOP/right wing media have been making these overblown statements like some 3 a.m. infomercial. Nothing ever seems to come of them. Wouldn’t that be the definition of fake news?

      • leon

        Pretty much.

        Don’t know what to say. It’s all political manuevering and posturing. There are still a lot of Democrats who think Bush stole the election from Gore, but mostly it was used for posturing during Bush’s presidency. It gets dusted out every once in a while. Likewise, the GOP will throw anything, see if any of it sticks and if not use it for rhetorical purposes in the future.

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        We are lied to from all sides incessantly. We choose the lies we believe and then angrily defend their truth outraged that others choose different lies to believe. TMITE is true, and no it does not just mean the left wing or mainstream media. Media is in the business of shaping opinion not reporting facts, all media.

      • Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

        Nope. This is akin to stepping on a cow-flop. It ain’t right. None of this is right. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        The fact that CNN and Fox are lying when they deny anything suspicious has happened in order to legitimize Biden does not make the lies from Gateway Pundit or PJ Media or Judicial Watch about “Trump has already won and we have irrefutable proof of fraud no court can refuse to accept” true. They are all pushing a narrative they want you to believe in and any truth contained in their articles is coincidental. There are no truly impartial honest reporters out there.

        Do I think there was massive fraud? Of course I do. Do I want it over turned and the the perpetrators jailed? Hell yes. Do I think we should go to war if the fraud is allowed to stand? In my darker moments yes, but I believe that the side that is perceived as starting the war will lose. But none of that means that I trust media just because it tells me things I find comfortable or agreeable. And you should not either.

      • R C Dean

        We are lied to from all sides incessantly.

        This is true. Don’t take anything any political operative says at face value. Look behind it.

        And looking behind the smoke around election fraud, I think there’s a fire. Probably a pretty big fucking fire.

        Viking explains well why the demand for a smoking gun is naive at best, and duplicitous at worst. We already have multiple affidavits showing controls were stripped and shady shit happened. So the smoking gun goalposts will be moved and moved and moved.

      • Viking1865

        The issue is that elections are a state matter. The premise is that even partisan elected officials will have a bare minimum sense of fair play and enforce the election laws. My contention is that after four years of TRUMP IS HITLER that even otherwise reasonable liberal types are willing to break the rules to get rid of him. I think you have enough people in positions of power and influence who are swaddled in the cloth of Russia, Racism, and RESIST!!!! to doing what is necessary to remove Trump.

        There is no conspiracy. There is a total removal of election security, coupled with the injection of millions of mail in ballots, and then you just need enough elected officials to be willing to look the other way at a few crucial moments. The whole “there is no smoking gun” I have heard from Establishment Republicans and certain people at Reason is laughable, to me, because as libertarians we should be very familiar with spontaneous order, and decentralized people working toward a common goal without their ever being a Big Boss Who Calls The Shot.

        Like, take the mail in ballots. They’re piled up in the counting facility. If you stop counting at 2 AM, and then at 3 AM someone comes in and dumps a bunch of ballots in the pile, and swishes it around….how could you sort it out? You don’t need a conspiracy. You just need a couple people willing to leave a door unlocked, and a couple other people willing to strike a blow against Literal Fascist Dictatorship.

        Of course, the cognitive dissonance of thinking Trump is both a ruthless dictator and is also willing to be voted out of office is interesting.

    • Count Potato

      “#Developing: The #DominionVotingSystems that “glitched” in favor of Joe Biden (and was used in 29 states), partnered up with Clinton Global Initiative and had on staff former employees of both Clinton Growth Initiative and Clinton Cash Cow TENEO.

      Full report on @OANN”

      https://twitter.com/ChanelRion/status/1325913936705818625

    • Rebel Scum

      Curious how these “glitches” only ever go one way.

  62. R C Dean

    I believe I have a post coming up later today. I am nailed down in meetings most of the day, so you lot will have to go without me.

    • PieInTheSky

      I have a post later this week which was scheduled faster than usual and I was thinking of deleting it this morning but it was already scheduled…

  63. Festus' Mustache Needs To Calm His Tits

    Brittany Murphy was adorable.

    • Count Potato

      She truly was.

    • PieInTheSky

      RACIST

  64. leon

    Ok. I just had a funny thought.

    Not that i think this is going to happen, or even possible. But what would be funny is if enough of the challenges went through and then Trump was declared the winner, and to see everyone flip overnight on the importance of investigating election fraud.

    • PieInTheSky

      I say go Roman style and make em both president with the ability to veto each other.

      • leon

        And they swap each day on who is in charge of the military.

      • db

        Originally, in the US, the runner-up for President won the office of the Vice-Presidency. They were forced to work together. That lasted until 1804, when the 12th Amendment was ratified. Mistake?

      • hayeksplosives

        It’d be a mistake if Hillary or her ilk became VP.

        “The president didn’t kill himself.”

      • robc

        No, because the election of 1800 was a clusterfuck because of it.

      • db

        They’re all clusterfucks. Gridlock is good!

      • robc

        But it wasn’t gridlock. Electors had 2 votes each, so the electors on the “winning side” all voted for Jefferson and Burr. Since it was tied, it went to the House and the house deadlocked on which should be Prez and Veep.

        Hamilton eventually convinced voters to flip and Jefferson won on the 36th ballot. This eventually led to the duel.

      • db

        So, reduce that to only one vote per elector, have them vote for only one office (the higher of the two, presumably), and then tally the votes. Would that make it work better?

      • leon

        Well if they Democratic Republicans hadn’t fucked up and made sure the right person didn’t cast their second vote for the VP candidate, then it would have been fine.

      • robc

        Yep. I am guessing they picked a Burr supporter to do that job. Oopsie.

        The Adams team got it right, as John Jay got one vote.

    • hayeksplosives

      …while recent history is rewritten so that they were ALWAYS going fiercely after election fraud.

    • prolefeed

      Actually, Biden’s lead in WI is about 21K votes, 15K in AZ, 12K in GA. Find enough fraud for SCOTUS to flip those three states, and its 269-269. Where ties are broken by the new congressional delegations, with each state delegation casting one vote.

      The PA vote is 45k apart. Find enough fraud to flip that one, plus two of the others, and its an outright win for Trump.

      So, unlikely, but possible.

      • Viking1865

        The mail in ballots alone should be a rich vein of fraud to mine. Philadelpia County, per CNN, had 350k mail in ballots piled up waiting to be counted on E-Day. How many of those do you think have an actual live human being attached to them?

  65. CPRM

    In 2012 when I ran for a state office as a write-in I was able to see my vote count (though, I was a registered write-in) I can’t find any info on how many write-in votes Kanye got in Wisconsin. Racists.

    • PieInTheSky

      did you win?

      • CPRM

        If I did don’t you think I’d be too busy with cocktail parties to slum with the likes of this lot?

  66. KSuellington

    We may need a special prosecutor to investigate voter fraud, Chinese influence in the election and the foreign entanglements of the Biden family. If the Dems have nothing to hide then they should welcome such a thing.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Don’t forget Logan Act violations.

  67. The Late P Brooks

    Presidents do not win Florida and Ohio, win the bellwether counties, pick up House seats, pick up state house seats, pick up governor’s races and then lose the Presidential election. That flies in the face of everything we know about American Presidential elections.

    New Normal, FTW!

    • prolefeed

      That’s not a case you make to SCOTUS. There, you need to prove something like this: “The vote margin was 12K in Georgia. We have documented 20K fraudulent votes, all for Biden. Y’all need to order the Georgia SoS to strike those 20K votes from the Biden vote count.”

      • robc

        Yes, the question is would SCOTUS accept something like, “Benford analysis suggests that there is a 98.6% chance that the fraud exceeds 12k votes. We can show examples of specific ones, but the total is a statistical analysis.”

        I know the answer, of course.

      • CPRM

        How about a random, double blind sciency statistical analcyst using block chain micro AI?

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        “But riots!”

        See OJ trial.

  68. Lachowsky

    I think its high time we just give up on this democracy business.

    • leon

      I think we did many many many years ago. We just keep the vestiges around for traditions sake.

    • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

      Serve everyone a bannock, the guy who gets the bean is king for a year. If the year goes well hand him (or her) a bag of money and wish him well. If it goes badly we cut his throat and let his blood revitalize the fields.

      • Not Adahn

        Do you have a newsletter?

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        I did but carving the runes into granite took up too much time, and I couldn’t afford the postage.

    • PieInTheSky

      I have offered myself as dictator of America in the past. The offer still stands.

      • leon

        Oh sure, and as soon as we do, you’ll be having us sacrifice our beautiful vigins to you.

    • Cy

      Hell yeah! I propose a Constitutional Republic with a focus on personal freedoms and the restraining of governments.

  69. ttyrant

    I know we have a few Illinois glibs here — what is the actual on-the-ground state of things? I was in town (south Chicago suburbs) a couple of weekends ago — I am fairly sure that this was just a couple days after Pritzker announced a ban on indoor dining. Yet we ate at a lovely Polish restaurant — as a side note, I am fairly sure we were the only ones not speaking the native tongue. Further, it seemed like several other places we drove by over the course of the weekend were, in fact, having indoor diners.

    Tundra – where are you seeing that Walz is going to lockdown further? Christ — that guy is a clown. Hopefully the powers-that-be in my town continue to ignore his enforcement orders.

    • Ed Wuncler

      There’s a restaurant in Barrington that is refusing to shut down in dining despite Pritzker’s orders. They basically said that restaurants aren’t spreading the disease and they can’t afford another shutdown. Guess where I’ll be eating at this weekend?

      • CPRM

        In da masssa’s house?! You fucking oreo! #RepublicansAreRacist

  70. Count Potato

    I don’t know about these reported “glitches”, but shouldn’t voting software be open source?

    • leon

      Open Source doesn’t really support the business model of companies in the “voting software” biz.

      • robc

        Sure it does, they are selling systems, not software. The hardware and installation and integration and a good money making source.

    • leon

      Cheekiness aside, you can’t really guarantee that the code being run is the code they say is being run.

      • Count Potato

        Well, at least it could be investigated if it were open source. Now it’s just a black box.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      Costco was out of TP, hand sanitizer, wipes, and masks last week. The panic is back in full swing.

      • Count Potato

        Yikes!

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        They’ve still got good stock on Amazon so get while the getting is good.

      • Sean

        *orders back up case*

        Got to use some of those Discover rewards points too.

      • Plisade

        We’re all in this together = hoarding

    • Rebel Scum

      Did a grocery list yesterday and Walmart is limiting paper towels and toilet paper to one per customer again. I have been slowly accumulating TP so as to not run into trouble if there is another run on it by hoarders.

      • CPRM

        ‘I hoard TP in case the hoarders come back!’

      • Rebel Scum

        Over months to have extra on hand. I didn’t clean out a store…

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      My wife does the shopping and says the selection is getting thin again, so she’s starting to stock up.

    • Idle Hands

      anybody notice a lack of turkey’s in the stores?

      • CPRM

        Nope, the bunker cooler at the grocery was full yesterday.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Tonnes of Halloween candy at 75% off at every store.

        Still bitter about utter absence of trick or treaters this year. Keep trunk or treating then, and my condolences about your bed-wetting parents.

  71. PieInTheSky

    What is the official glibertarian position on those wet wipes like toilet paper? Butt wipes, for men. It says fully degradable on the pack, but some say they are not and bad for the environment. But I like using them. But I feel guilty for clogging up the sewer.

    • leon

      A clean butt is the only thing known to man that has intrinsic value.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      By all means, flush them down the toilet if you’ve got the hots for your plumber and want to see his butt-crack while he fixes your pipes.

    • KSuellington

      It does not matter what they say on the package, those “degradable” wipes will clog sewer pipes.

      • db

        I have a friend who is a plumber and his “clogged toilet and sewer line” calls have tripled since March.

      • l0b0t

        Indeed! After shelling out for a Sunday emergency call and mitigating the effluvia flooded (sigh… carpeted) hallway, I bought my own snake (it chucks right into my drill). Only used it once but that was enough for it to have paid for itself.

      • KSuellington

        Ugh! Yeah, it really pays to be able to do some basic repair stuff around the house. I had to remove a garbage disposal this weekend and take it out to remove a piece of metal spoon trapped inside it. I’m sure that would be at least $300 from a plumber here as I know they are all busy as hell now.

    • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

      We feel that official positions are shitty.

    • CPRM

      What kind of commie shit are you pushing out that requires such a thing? ‘I needs baby wipes fer my ass to make me feel like a man!’

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      I use them when changing my dad’s diaper, and then they go in the trash.

      • CPRM

        “What walks on four legs in the morning, two legs in the afternoon, three legs in the evening, and no legs at night?”

        I miss my dad. When he died, due to my relationship as a caregiver for him, I lost my son, my dad and my best friend on the same day.

      • Count Potato

        Sorry 🙁

      • CPRM

        Thanks, it’s been…OMG 6 years…time flies when you’re having fun. I’m not trying to elicit sympathy though, but support this Jamie fellow.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        Ouch. Nobody should lose a child.

      • CPRM

        I didn’t, to be clear, I’m saying my father dying felt like all those things at once.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        Ah, got it.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Invest in a bidet attachment for your seat.

    • Drake

      I do not trust those things going into my septic system. Use a wet-wipes if you need to freshen up, but toss it in the trash.

  72. Count Potato

    “Facebook is absolutely teeming with right-wing misinformation right now. These are all among the 10 most-engaged URLs on the platform over the last 24 hours (per @NewsWhip
    data)”

    https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1326020882112786432

    Yet, as far as I can tell, all four of those stories are true.

    • leon

      This goes back to our discussion yesterday. I think it was Alysious who said he writes for an outlet with a Left Bent, and that even being presented with _facts_ that are in opposition to what one believes, generates a level of disgust.

      This affects everyone (myslef included). It’s just easier to see when “the other side” does it.

      • leon

        For example, if you stated this facts, i’m sure you would get some kind of pained “what?!” reaction

        – More people voted for Trump in his re-election bid than voted for Obama in his re-election bid.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      How do you even begin to address this level of delusion? Those are statements of fact that just so happen to be accurate.

      • rhywun

        You are not allowed to even reference the notion that some people believe the election has not been decided yet.

    • Count Potato

      “The tricky thing, for Facebook, is that some of the most viral stories aren’t strictly false. (Perdue + Loeffler *did* call for the SOS’s resignation.) But they are feeding a stolen election narrative that is going to be hard to dial back.”

      https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1326027923061551104

      CWAA

      • CPRM

        It’s false because my faith says so!

      • leon

        The misinformation isn’t really false, but it’s might be used to support something I don’t want. So it is dangerous.

        I mean from his perspective, it is perfectly cogent. Something making something i don’t want to happen slightly more likely is techincally dangerous.

  73. trshmnstr the terrible

    For those who don’t know, the Federalist Society National Lawyers Convention is going on right now, and its open to the public (fedsoc.org). Listening to intellectuals talk liberty in a way that isn’t shaded by pomo leftist bullshit is refreshing, even when I don’t agree with everything said. The good faith used when addressing libertarian views is nearly impossible to find elsewhere in academia.

    • leon

      They are talking about libertarian views like they are legitimate?!?! This is the worst of “Both-side-ism”

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Now I know the world is ending.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Thr current topic is stripping the “tiers of scrutiny” out of 1st amendment analysis and going back to the constitutional text.

      • Plisade

        “tiers of scrutiny” IANAL… so from an outsider’s perspective I’m reading that phrase as meaning a shit-ton of precedent that has to be considered, referred to, sorted out, etc. every time a 1A case comes up. I have wondered why all that’s necessary, why one can’t just look directly at The Constitution rather than through precedent-tinted glasses.

      • leon

        Because precedent lest third rate prosecutors who get selected to be judges feel important.

      • Plisade

        Ego uber alles.

      • CPRM

        why one can’t just look directly at The Constitution rather than through precedent-tinted glasses.

        Because!!111!1!11

      • kbolino

        Well, at the very least, precedent establishes that “Congress shall make no law” also applies to the executive and judicial branches besides just the legislative one, and it also establishes that the 14th Amendment incorporates the 1st Amendment against the states, or in other words that a state cannot restrict speech/press/assembly/religion/petition in ways the federal government is also forbidden from restricting them.

        The problem is that precedent also gets used to undermine the text. “Congress shall make no law” even without precedent says, well, “Congress shall make no law” and yet several such laws have been made by Congress and tolerated by the courts, and that doesn’t even get into the 2nd Amendment’s “shall not be infringed”.

      • Plisade

        Ok, so some precedent is necessary to show the relation between some principles. Makes sense. But at some point some corollaries must be seen as obviously creeping too far from the lower level axioms and be discarded. I suppose that’d be a precedent that overturns precedent. Fuck.

    • RAHeinlein

      Thanks for the link!

  74. The Late P Brooks

    I just had a brief gander at Sky News, on my way to the weather channel. Some Limey douchebag was interviewing a woman from Trump’s legal team, chastising her because President Cartoon Villain has not gracefully conceded and resigned so Ballgag joe can roll up his sleeves and begin the arduous task of healing the nation.

    The Limey just about lost it when she pointed out the fact that Joe is not the “president elect” and will not be until the Electoral College votes.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      Its always satisfying to see these types to face reality. Say what you will about Ted Cruz, but it warned my cold dead heart to see him lay into Fredo about CNNs coverage of Trump.

  75. banginglc1

    I’ve been in the back wood of West Virginia since the morning after the election, with no cell coverage, TV, or internet of any kind. . . did I miss anything?

    • CPRM

      Not much, you’re still a racist piece of shit wrecker, but now Joe Biden loves you and wants to smell your hair.

    • Rebel Scum

      Lawsuits, election irregularities up the wazoo, media going full bore with “president-elect Joe Biden” messaging, FNC is dead, etc.

      Apparently people were so Jazzed for Joe that he garnered 6 million more votes across the country than Herself or Barry.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Russia nuked the Eastern seaboard and Putin’s being sworn in as President next Friday.

      • banginglc1

        So, another Tuesday?

        *yawns, and goes back to catching up on emails*

  76. Sukkoi19

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