I don’t know why I feel a need to justify my vote, but I do. Maybe it’s because I feel like a bit of a sellout. Maybe it’s because it’s a point of contention among us here at glibs, and I highly respect people on both sides of the argument. Maybe it’s because I’m a narcissistic asshole who likes to pontificate on the regular, and y’all are the only ones who let me do it. I mean, I have two articles that are currently supposed to be written as continuations of prior articles, and yet here I am writing about my vote like any of this matters.
I’ve been pretty transparent about the internal conflict I’ve had between voting Trump and not voting this cycle. However, I don’t think I’ve gotten into the nitty gritty of why.
I voted for Trump, and I voted for him both on principle and on pragmatism. I didn’t vote in 2016, but I felt compelled to vote this time.
If you had told me in 2016 or 2018 or even January that I’d vote for Trump, I would say that I must’ve compromised on my principles and voted purely as a defensive move against a looming leftist threat. That’s not wrong, but that’s not the full story.
My Voting Priorities
I see 4 tiers of voting priorities. Tier 1 is the set of issues where opposition is fatal to their contention for my vote. I may abide some compromise, but if you line up on the wrong side of the issue, it doesn’t matter how many good things you do, you cannot earn my vote. Tier 2 is the set of issues where they are important, but being on the wrong side doesn’t mean it’s a forgone conclusion that I won’t vote for you. Stack up enough alignment on other T1 and T2 issues, and you can win me over. Tier 3 are the issues where any one issue isn’t very persuasive one way or another, but when they’re bundled together (“law & order”, “global trade”) they can be persuasive. Tier 4 are issues where I have an opinion, but they’re not particularly important or urgent to me. A lot of these suffer from “impossibly in the current political climate”.
I’ll not create a full list of voting priorities, but I’ll share my top tier
Tier 1
• Pro-Life
• Gun Rights
• Religious Liberty
• Constitutional Originalism
As should be apparent, there’s no possible way that I could ever vote Democrat. They align directly against basically all of my highest priority voting issues. Neither the Republicans nor the Libertarians are perfectly aligned with me on these issues, either. However, neither of them are directly opposite my opinion on any of these issues, with the possible exception of the LPs view on abortion.
The primary lens though which I have been processing the election is my faith. I know that, despite the rhetoric about “most important ever”, events will occur as they are supposed to. As such, there’s a hard cap on my “give a shit’. Sometimes it’s easy to get sucked in as I see principles based in big-T Truth being dismantled and discarded, but people suck and putting your faith in people, especially large groups of people, is folly. From that point of view, I may as well stay home and keep my mind on more important things.
My faith also compels me to affirm justice and resist injustice. Unfortunately, it’s not so clear cut in politics. People like to frame it as “team stupid versus team evil”. Team evil is about right for the postmodern leftists, but I don’t think the Republicans are stupid. They’re “team identity crisis”. Sometimes they embrace virtue, sometimes they play identity politics. They’re what happens when a religious sect tries to play in the secular world… the straight laced kid who tries too hard to fit in with the punks. On the other hand, the Libertarian Party is clearly team protest vote.
Setting aside team evil as a non-starter, how do I best affirm justice and resist injustice? Well, what injustice exists in our society? Beyond the tier 1 issues above, cultural Marxism is a huge concern of mine. Woke culture and inclusion & diversity have become a daily distraction in my profession, despite having nothing to do with my day job. My wife genuinely fears misstepping and mentioning her opinions on social media after seeing people’s lives and livelihoods attacked. Add in a perception rippling through the evangelical Christian community that the left is becoming openly hostile to us, and resistance against cultural Marxism is becoming a higher and higher priority. That’s where the Libertarian Party falls down as a protest vote. A protest vote, without the pragmatic aspect, needs to be closer to that aspirational goal of “affirming justice”, which the LP does not do. Their mewling critiques of the left are something I’ve written about here in the past, and I think that their sagging foundation of so called principles puts them in a poor position to critique the left. Jo showed this a few times when she accepted the left’s premise and then quibbled with the progressives about how much jackboot to use when solving the manufactured problem designed to slow march us to totalitarianism. A Libertarian party that supports BLM, assumes the legitimacy and urgency of climate change, and forces people to bake the cake is not a party that will be getting my protest vote.
That leaves me with two choices. Vote Republican or don’t vote.
More accurately, Vote Trump or don’t vote. It’s an important distinction because voting Trump has a different set of pros and cons compared to a generic Republican. I wouldn’t have bothered voting if a Mitt Romney, John McCain, George W Bush type Republican was on the ballot. Not enough affirming justice. Not enough resisting injustice.
Why vote for Trump, if I wouldn’t vote for any regular cycle republican? Because he is the most effective person since Reagan at resisting injustice. He got some of the most corrupt, evil human beings on the planet so riled up that they attempted and failed at a coup, attempted and failed at removing him from office, spent every day for 4 years wailing and gnashing their teeth, and tore off every mask of moderation and decency and bared their fetid souls.
It’s going to sound ridiculous, but I’m reminded of Jesus when he expelled demons. He could pick them out of a crowd, expose them, and force them to do His will. Trump isn’t Jesus by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, he appears to be a despicable human being. However, he has that ability to identify, expose and manipulate his opponents with ease. Given how much of a clear and present danger the left has made itself in the past 4 years, I don’t want to pass on the opportunity to chip away at their hegemony.
When it came down to it, I voted for Trump because he makes a whole lot of evil people squirm uncomfortably, and we’re not going to have another candidate evoke that response for a generation, at least. It wasn’t a vote for “affirming justice”, it was a vote to resist the tidal wave of injustice that we are forced to face as a country. My expectations are low. Just make the right people keep hating you Mr. President. You don’t have to be a good person to resist the evil people.
I like what money can do, I voted Trump,
Am I the only one who hasn’t voted yet?!
*rasies hand* you are not alone.
I haven’t. I will vote on Election Day as God intended.
Damn straight.
As will I
Ditto!
Same.
Same
Gf and I are going to be in line tomorrow morning at 6:30. Polls open at 7:00.
Yes, we even vote together. We’re adorable.
Yikes, I dunno if I can stumble over to my voting place that early. I was thinking maybe around 8am.
I had to help wifey. They made me fill out a form to stand beside her and let her watch me vote. It’s her first time in Murika.
Aw. ❤️ ??
Nope. Waiting for Tuesday.
I don’t approve of early voting.
Plus, if my long deceased grandmothers name is still on the rolls, I’m going to yell at people.
I wouldn’t be surprised if I were on the rolls in four counties.
Nope. I’m going tomorrow.
Oh, and this is for you.
?
No; this is for you.
And this is for the children.
I’m voting tomorrow after work.
Plenty of time after work
Yeah; I get off at 2:30 and the polls close at 9.
Of course, the town hall where the polling place is has been closed for months due to coronavirus bullshit and only recently opened up by appointment only. I think the voting is a special one-day opening thing.
I can vote during work, to a point. I’m not hanging around outside in the dark brrrrr.
“Yeah; I get off at 2:30…”
And 2:45
And 3:00
And 3:19
IYKWIM
I don’t understand why you are pissed off then
Because its me doing all the work!
Arms are tired!
Votin’!
“Votin'”
Yeah but at least when I’m done, I got something to show for it.
*makes wanking motion*
-George Carlin
I vote on election day.
My whole city has jacked us out of inperson voting. I assume it’s so they can sift through and throw away all the icky non-democrat votes. I put mine in a drop box. I foresee 3-4 hour lines tomorrow. I ain’t doing that again. I tried during the primary, but I gave up after about 20 minutes.
Shoot, my whole state has. So, sent it in. I live in a blue neighborhood, so I don’t worry about my vote not making it in. Now, if I was one of the farmers…
Voting only encourages the Assholes.
True enough.
This is true, and, it’s not even the politicians, any more.
I am so fucking sick of all the “YOU MUST VOTE!!!” bullshit, I can’t even.
I expect there’ll be enough mud stirred up in the next week that we’ll face a real national crisis. Dem pols will refuse to concede and Republicans will cut and run.
No. Voting tomorrow at the polls. Roll my ass out of bed like I actually have somewhere to be.
Am I the only who isn’t going to vote?
Got a few tax related things on my ballot I need to vote against. If I’m being honest, I’m not sure if I’ll actually vote for anyone for Pres. It’s going to be an impulse decision between Trump or Fuck um’ all.
It’s like you don’t even care about “owning the libs”.
Dude.
I think you all know where I stand.
On the x?
On my feet.
That’s what I heard!
Nice!
How can 3 guys produce such a complete, tight wall of sound?
Also Frank Beard is the only one without a beard.
I didn’t vote last time. And I also sat out 2012. I couldn’t set this one out, the commies are knocking at the door.
I not voted early.
Chucked the un-requested ballot in the trash without opening it. Did tear it up pretty good, though.
I could maybe see voting for Donny for the reasons Trashy gives, but not enough to overcome my revulsion.
Not only am I not registered to vote since about 2012, and not only do I don’t want to spend hours in line for a protest vote, but even the protest vote this time would require about an hour long shower after to get the virtual vomit off my person.
I was strongly considering not voting, and then the damnedest thing came to my mind – to just pull the lever for straight Republican. It’s a very weird protest vote, but it really just comes down to – as much as I dislike almost every Republican, I dislike them just a little less than almost every Democrat. Or to put it another way – I can deal with Republican problems, but not the problems the Democrats would create.
I filled out my ballot this afternoon. CO has been on the mail ballot train for years. I will drop it off in the drop box at the court house on my way to work.
They won’t let you vote in person in CO? WTF?
Ya, I could but why? I am lazy what can I say. Same ballot and I drop it off at the same place I would have to vote.
Hawaii is 100% vote by mail. It started before all the Kung Flu bullshit. The law clearly states if the ballot is not at the election office by 8pm on election day it will be discarded.
I voted for a LP woman to be Tulsi’s replacement and against every proposition. Donny Two Scoops got my POTUS vote. It won’t make a damn bit of difference for the four electoral collage votes. If Trump wins then he has one more popular vote to confound the socialists with.
I voted today. For some reason it was “emergency” voting, and I had to swear . . .something. Don’t recall. Don’t care.
Your reasons for atrumping aren’t far off from mine, although I’m a heathen. Pagan? Whatever.
Ditto. It’s not like I don’t share similar values.
Same here. One can value life without the fear of burning in Hell.
Gee, and here I am, valuing life because I love God.
Who knew??
?
I’ll vote tomorrow.
I need everybody out voting tomorrow. I don’t care which way you vote, I just want to see Rhywun eat his hat. Go people, go!!!
Election day is tomorrow. Early voting annoys me. Voting should not be made easier, it should be made harder.
Look man, unless drooling, wheelchair bound, mute stroke victims can vote, it’s not a fair system.
I don’t mind voting early, as long as it’s only a few days. What I don’t approve of is mass mail in and especially those drop boxes. Drop boxes should be outlawed before next election, if there was ever fraud waiting to happen, there it is.
I voted for Blake Huber and Frank Atwood. Now THAT is standing on principle.
I think I heard it here, but I still like voting for Maddog this year, just to get the “Maddog 2020” signs.
Wife and I voted Saturday. I know several people here have stated they will vote on election day, so you’re probably not the only one.
I’m the secondest seconder in the history of seconding! I’m so good at seconding, it’s not even funny.
Well, my wifi disagrees. I second that!
I’m so first I don’t even care!
I got a technical second place at seconding, so a compound second? I’ll take it.
I was on topic and pithy, way back when, that get you gif, in the before time…..
Y’all missing Broketard or something?
They should be making their jokes with voluntarily contributed resources instead of taxes.
*Sensible chuckle*
His re-election will remake the Republican party and wreck the Democrats.
Let’s hope he can start wholesale swamp critter firings in 2021. That’s where the real change comes in.
I want to see the FBI de-funded and abolished.
The Feebs are obsolete.
Fine, but the Philly branch gets to stay. They do decent work.
Name one thing they did that is not now under the jurisdiction of HLS? Fuck the FBI. Like Trump or despise him, the agency that ran cover for an attempted coup pushing fake evidence needs the axe good and hard.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/pr/former-philadelphia-district-attorney-rufus-seth-williams-sentenced-five-years-prison
Look, they’ve put away Dems.
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/philadelphia/news/press-releases/congressman-chaka-fattah-and-associates-charged-with-participating-in-racketeering-conspiracy
There’s nobody else to arrest in Philly other than Dems.
Eggs, omelettes.
The entire top floor of the Hoover bldg in DC seems like a good compromise. Get rid of the worst political weasels.
And sandblast that old bitch’s name off the building.
“Let’s hope he can start wholesale swamp critter firings in 2021.”
That rotten little chipmunk face looking swamp critter Fauci first.
Lockdowns are my biggest issue, followed by guns and taxes.
I’m going to vote for Trump tomorrow.
Biden has threatened more lock downs and mask mandates. Harris is despicable. Tulsi Gabbard’s hit on Harris in the Democratic primary debates was spot-on.
For governor, I’m voting LP.
For US House and US Senate, Republican. The LP candidates received F grades from the NH Firearms Coalition. One because he received the survey and didn’t return the survey. The NHFC sent the survey certified mail to Federal candidates and select State level candidates, so they know he received it and didn’t return it. The other received an F because of his answers on the survey.
For Executive council, state senate, and my town’s multi-person state house district, Republican. The executive council candidate is Reopen NH endorsed and is the biggest friend in government for NH gun owners. Two state rep candidates are Reopen NH endorsed. I’ve helped one of those two with her campaign. Republican for the other seats because even though they aren’t Reopen NH endorsed, they are willing to hold a vote on the Governor’s emergency orders even though they might vote to continue the orders. The Democrats don’t even want to hold a vote.
Not Hillary has been much better than I expected, especially considering I had no particular expectations.
I voted for Trump to cast a vote against the unholy alliance between the Democrats and the professional civil service. They mean to rule us permanently.
Blood, trees, Liberty
Let me preface by saying, I don’t care how any of the rest of you vote, or if you do or not, that’s totally a matter of personal choice.
I will be heading to the polls tomorrow and voting for Trump for pretty much exactly the reasons you outlined, Trashy (although I’m not religious), with pent up lockdown/riot anger pumping my enthusiasm. And then I’ll head back to work and spend the rest of the night (hopefully) watching my newsroom freak out when Biden loses.
Least worst outcome, FTW!
To give the Trump enthusiasts some pause about this week, consider this:
The entirety of this election, barring some extreme outlier like Illinois going red, turns on how many votes Philadelphia can deliver for Biden after election day with no postmarks and no matching signatures required.
Ya, that last point is a bit fucked up.
Voting integrity? What voting integrity? What a shitshow.
That’s not good.
The fact that Philadelphia may decide that fate of the nation is legitimately horrifying.
Philadelphia deciding anything is legitimately horrifying. It’s a corrupt shithole, a larger version of Baltimore.
Serious question, if they can manufacture ballots why wait until after election day? I’m not saying no fraud happens but some of what the R’s are worried about just doesn’t seem to make any sense.
They need to know how many to make.
It’s a simple manufacturing issue.
Yeah, no use in frauding more than they need to. The less that occurs the harder it is to get caught and the more plausible it seems.
It’s like John Holmes in a dick measuring contest. You only pull out enough to get the win.
Aren’t there a finite number of ballots? I get the harvesting thing, but I truly don’t see how they can just manufacture ballots out of thin air in proportion to where they need them. Well I could see how they could do that but any plausible method of doing that would require corruption on such a level that voting wouldn’t matter anyway.
To your point, voting doesn’t matter in Philly. The election judges determine the outcome before the elections are held and have done so for decades. The ballots are just for show.
Liberty Bell crack’d.
My wife grew up a few doors down from an elections judge. That woman was a god among mortals in the city. Every politician who wanted to run for office in her district had to plead their case to her in her basement before even filling out the paperwork. She was the gatekeeper and decider.
Why manufacture more than necessary? That just pushes the envelope of what you can get away with. Look at the Franken election, where he won by hundreds of votes that magically appeared at the last second.
Don’t want to overplay your hand.
I think if it’s razor tight, you might see some shenanigans just because the temptation is too great, but in general, I agree with you. Dems are under performing their projections in the early vote now. If they were stuffing, they’d be stuffing in early, middle and late.
The plans was to make it so ridiculously easy to vote that any moron could do it with no effort. Use that to counteract the enthusiasm gap. I don’t really buy that the goal was to set up a massive voter fraud scheme. There will of course be a bit more fraud just due to incentives, but I honestly think that is incidental. It was about getting the 18 year old stoner who doesn’t give a shit to stand in line to mail in his ballot, not get my dead granddaddy to give Biden the win.
Unless the Dems, or the Repubs for that matter, are done with the idea of having any illusion of legitimacy in our elections, it would behoove them to know the actual count so the changes aren’t outrageously unbelievable.
They won’t. They will
manufacture votes the whole time. If anything. they’re asking for trouble if they manufacture them too late. those votes will be preserved for later legal challenges and scrutiny.
Seems to be 2 choices, either party
1. Lose honestly
2. Win dishonestly
Winning is always better (and far more lucrative). Politics is not a game of morality, its a game of winning.
To quote Joe Kennedy: ” I don’t care how many votes you have to buy, but remember I’m not paying for a god dam landslide”
Justice Amy Coney Barret.
I believe.
The entirety of this election, barring some extreme outlier like Illinois going red, turns on how many votes Philadelphia can deliver for Biden after election day with no postmarks and no matching signatures required.
I just want to interject to point out that, while this is possible, it is not guaranteed. If WI and AZ return to Trump, he doesn’t actually need PA. PA is the keystone if the polls are correct, because it is the most likely to swing either way, but if the polls happen to be off again it is not essential. Also, darkhorses like NV and MN could also make PA irrelevant.
I think i forgot to seal my ballot. So i don’t think it matters who i voted for.
Stupid shit my Facederp friends say:
“Just watched BlacKKKlansman. What a good reminder of why tomorrow’s election is so important! A must watch for everyone!”
I think it’s gonna be funny if predictions are right and Trump gets the highest share of the African American vote a GOP candidate has gotten since… The 1900’s? . We have to vote to save the Blacks from themselves!
Nice. I was going to make some snark about Biden being chummy with Robert Byrd, but that’s better.
It would be funny if Trump won at all under any circumstance. For months my news and social media feed had been inundated with “there’s no evidence of any shy Trump voter” or “Biden is doing way better than Hillary” articles.
They can probably save themselves from last election, but they’re not going to live this one down after this media barrage.
I’ve heard directly plenty of evidence of a “shy” or at least “subversive” Trump Voter, where many have told me they have lied to pollsters. Anectdotal? yes, but seeing as the nature of the question isn’t really… observable via surveys, it is probably the best data we could get.
I don’t think those predictions can be wrong. I think it will be even higher than the predictions.
He’s got Lil Wayne on his side!
Seriously though, generally up until a week before the election, you see blacks flirting with leaving the Dems, and then in that last week the polls return to about that same point, and the question just because one of turnout. That hasn’t happened this year. The polls still show Trump way up there for a Republican. His vote share is going to be higher than normal. It’s just a question of how many blacks actually show up to the polls.
If Trump wins with a higher minority vote and lower white vote than last time, it would be hilarious. Who could the Democrats possibly blame? I’d get a life-time supply of tears.
I still think Biden is going to win, though.
Cis
Hetero
White
Male
Pick as many as it takes to explain the results, I don’t think it is possible to get a plurality without a majority of the votes being at least 3 of those categories, since three of them describe 65% or more of the populace and the remianing one is just under half. You can always come up with a rationalization. You only have to change your narrative if you apply reason, and almost no one does that.
True, and in fact if the situation comes to pass then it will be easy for them to just settle on “male” as the category target of their ire.
IMO, there will be trouble, when Trump wins, the left will no accept the result, no matter, if Biden wins, they aren’t taking any guns away, they can try. The next step, on 11\4 is a shit show, good fortune, hope I’m wrong
I’m more concerned about the senate.
Trump has actually done an excellent job with the courts. Not just the supreme court. Way better than anyone could’ve expected.
The Republicans are easily set up to weather 4 years of another democrat schmo as president.
Full control of congress though? we are just fucked.
He’s done a good job because he actually delegated it and didn’t fuck up what was done. That is probably pretty rare for him, and I wonder if the deal will hold for a second term.
I think the deal would hold, because he’s getting praise for it and not having to do any actual work. In fact, his best achievements (judges and treaties) have generally come from him delegating, so I don’t know why he would change that (but it is Trump, so no guarantees).
I’m more concerned about the senate.
The polls moved from predicting the Senate at 51D/49R to 50D/50R (because Ernst is having a turnaround in Iowa), so I think there’s a good chance a Biden administration will find it’s worse impulses blunted in the Senate. Yes, 50/50 gives the edge to the president’s party, but it must be remembered that the Ds have a squish of their own, Manchin of WV, who I don’t think can support either the gun agenda or the green agenda that his party is pushing.
Now, what have we told you about polls?
The only good poll is a dancing pole?
Some of us like reading tea leaves…
Which reminds me, has our resident astrologist made a prediction?
He’s all in for SBBC, and that sweet sweet cabinet position.
Never stick your tongue to a frozen one?
How many it takes to screw in a light bulb?
I saw this trump ad earlier when I clicked on an unrelated twatter link. Whatever.
Aside from the somewhat jarring sobriety and, dare i say, gravitas of trump’s delivery (It’s like waking up in the middle of the night to see your cat correcting your trigonometry homework), it’s a damn good ad, with a positive message. Too bad none of the people who most need to see it, will.
Good link
I wanted to get trashed tomorrow as the polls are called and damn the consequences the next day, but I’ve been volunteered for a site visit on Wednesday and don’t relish making the two hour drive there hungover.
My top tier:
Forever War
DHS
“War on Drugs” and “Criminal” “Justice”
Both candidates suck. Jo is an obnoxious non-entity.
Trump has done two good things and a shitload of bad things. Shitty percentage. Biden has done zero good things, significant bad things, and is already teed up to do more bad things. Shittier percentage. I’m in a swing state.
I will forever have a deep hatred for Team Blue for making me vote for Trump. Fuck you with red hot razor wire.
The libertarian problem is that no one really cares much about either issue.
I just want them to take less of our money and less of our freedom. OMB took less than most. Uncle Joe wants all of it and he wants it now. I cast my first non capital L vote since around 1990 this week. It doesn’t feel particularly bad either.
He might have took less of it directly, who knows if it offsets the money he took in poor trade deals/tarriffs and debt. Seen vs unseen and whatnot.
I wound up voting pure “R” with a couple of L’s in minor positions.
Thank you, OMWC, for expressing my contempt. I feel dirty and it will take a while to erase the stain.
And all of this is useless. Just like 2018, I expect to “score” 0.00% on my ballot. I wish there was some way I could make money off of my consistent failures.
My top tier:
Stop the communists Trump gets a B, Biden an F, Jo gets an F
Cutting Spending Trump gets a n F, Biden gets an F, Jo gets a B
Reduction of the bureaucracy both in scope and power Trump gets a B, Biden gets an F, Jo gets a C
1st Amendment issues Trump gets a D- (Fosta and Sesta/various proposals which I may find satisfying as revenge against TMITE, but which will just erode the 1st) Biden gets an F, Jo gets an A
2nd Amendment issues Trump gets a D- Biden gets an F (Trump talks gun rights sometimes, but the bump stock ban and his positions on red flag laws are pretty clearly not a gun rights supporter talking), Jo gets a C (opposing additional restrictions is not enough)
Jo was eliminated from contention for my vote with the hashtag BLM thing. If you are asking me to make a symbolic vote for you you can’t be on the other side of my issue number 1.
Biden is a stooge, and those behind him are all in on evil and must be opposed
Trump is not good. After his first 2 years I’d have given him a C + without a curve, the last two years have dropped him down a good bit to a low D, possibly an F (hint, shut up about greatest economy in history when we are running a trillion plus deficit BEFORE Covid theater added many more trillions, also sex trafficking is made up bullshit and throwing wep page owners in prison because they allowed hookers to warn each other about dangerous and creepy Johns is evil)
I’ll vote for Trump; I’ll be amused at the tears if he wins, but I’m holding my nose to do it. Obviously the reasons I dislike him are not the same as the usual set, and the biggest issue for me (other than the immediate need to shut down communists rioting and attacking people in the streets) is one that absolutely no major figure is, or will be, doing anything about. STOP SPENDING THE EARNINGS OF PEOPLE WHO AREN’T EVEN BORN YET! No, your social security/medicare etc is not your money! They spent your money after they stole it, they are now stealing other people’s money to pay to you, and it’s getting closer and closer to the point where it hard resets our economy. Not recession, not depression, collapse with currency devaluation and everything that follows (hint Hitler, Hitler follows that)
I appreciate your enthusiasm in helping me make 10 bucks.
When you pay up, make sure it’s with new, clean, and uncrumpled banknotes.
The city just barricaded the local courthouse. They will probably park buses to protect the mall again like they did a few months ago. Beverly Hills told the businesses there to board up last week.
Fuck those people who let this start, with their “restorative justice” bullshit revolving door that means there’s zero risk to these thugs. And fuck all the media that covered for them and pretended people tearing out ATMs and looking Nike stores are just innocent ‘protestors’ when half of em are gang members just stealing shit and they know it.
Republican all the way down ticket in this blue state. It’s futile here, and I know it, but if I’m gonna cast a protest vote this year, I’ll make it more … pointy one.
The members of the party that has printed yard signs saying, ‘return honesty and integrity to our political system’ has caused every major city in the country to warn business in down town areas to board up their stores.
Am I the only who isn’t going to vote?
No, Fourscore, you’re not.
I shall endeavor to persevere.
And then you declare War?
Apropos.
More fitting?
The only person that is effected by my vote is me.
What country are you eligable to vote in?
Same as you. I’d have to register in Colorado. Pointless.
Maybe for President, but god please, as much as I hate Gardner, please please don’t let Hickenlooper become a Senator. The man is dumb as dog shit, a gun grabber and hasn’t held a real job in decades.
I don’t think I have the power to stop that. At least not legally.
Do you have a line on Ninja for hire?
Tomorrow, I shall vote straight-ticket Republican. I hate the Republican Party. But at this point, I loathe the Democratic Party in ways that cannot adequately be described.
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I’ve voted LP more times in my life than Republican, esp. for pres by around 2-to-0. I skipped a few pres contests over the years as well.
I’ve voted for Perot and Trump. And if I’m not beaten down by the black Panthers tomorrow it will be trump again.
Basically 2 anti Clinton votes and a pending anti lockdown/destroy the economy vote
ditto
It’s good to know I’m not alone.
I should point out that I have voted Libertarian in every presidential elections since 1980.
But not this year.
Biden has dementia, and Harris is a sociopath.
And Iowa is a swing state with a relatively moderate Republican senator (Ernst) that could swing the senate over to the Dems.
To much at stake this year.
+1 Harry Browne, free in an unfree world
“… I must’ve compromised on my principles…”
Yes, but her methods were inscrutable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRZspO-QU0g
Dood, linking that song without the girls is criminal.
Girls
*Robert Palmer pulls out his thesaurus*
I think you mean felonious, villainous, or nefarious.
On the news this morning they were talking to some pollster (Gallup, maybe). He babbled a bunch of nonsense about sampling, and made random noises about how good their numbers are. Better than last time, you betcha.
Nobody asked him if he was going to quit his job and become a pizza delivery driver if Trump wins. They should have.
A candidate’s 2nd Amendment stance is all I need to know, so I guess I’m a single-issue voter. If they don’t pass the 2A stink test, it’s a no from me.
But if someone supports the 2A but, say, thinks “vice” is an actual name for a category of crime, then it will still be a no. But it starts with 2A.
Well…..it’s a category of activities for which you can be arrested. A category that can, hopefully, be wound down/shut down, with the appropriate legislation.
However, there are waaaay too many people out there who simply cannot imagine our lovely government giving up the fight on those activities, and would never ever think of electing people who would do so.
Sigh. I need to clear my real desk this week to finally move my computer to it. I meant to do so long ago (as in when I moved in.) Finally getting it done.
I wonmder if it will hold four monitors… the deck is long enough.
I need to do it because I’m changing the monitors on my computer, and the easiest way to do that is to just set up anew on the right spot. Plus, it means my left monitor will no longer be pumping heat directly on the thermostat and fooling the furnace.
Capitalist pig-dog!
No one needs 4 monitors!
*wishes he had a 4th monitor at work – 3 just isn’t enough*
Well, I have two now that work at 1920×1200, and I just ordered two that go up to 2560×1440 (yes, I know that’s not top o the line) and a video card that supports four monitors. I have all the cables I need to hook them up too.
I don’t even have to read the story. It’s because you’re a racist, everythingphobic, shitlord.
This guy gets it.
[slowly lifts monocle from eye, carefully polishes it, and re-places it on eye, squints just a bit, then clears throat] So?
Biden’s RCP numbers are sinking so fast I can stare at the page and watch them go down. He’s went from +3.3 in the swing states to 2.6 in a matter of hours. And I trust the polls even less than before. Bunch of media hucksters.
I am vindicated!
…
Funny, I don’t feel any different than before.
“I am vindicated!”
You are?
Well, I’ve been telling people about the uselessness of polls for ages now.
Not until tomorrow, little wooden boy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BtAEIPsOEJs
Biden is the candidate of minorities, and there’s no smaller minority than enthusiastic Biden voters.
The 19th Amendment needs a sammich making clause. I’ll vote for that.
As long as they’re muffulettas.
Trump 2020.
See y’all tomorrow.
So, did you guys already run a predictions thread or is that tomorrow?
I want to come in early and say TRUMP wins by a 5point plus margin. Also, GOP keeps senate. However, you may recall I called it for Clinton in 2016…soooo I not so gud at this.
I’ll go so far as to say that Trumphitler wins bigger than anyone want’s to expect. Not sure if he gets cheated out of it and how the courts rule, but that’s what I predict for the reality of it.
He has to win bigly tomorrow night if he has any chance of keeping the courts out of having their say.
I’ve never seen as much enthusiasm for a red team candidate and less for a blue teamer. I live in true blue land. It’s dramatic. He might just win bigly enough!
I really want to see just one blue stronghold flip so I can laugh my ass off. One of those states no one even thought might be in play.
The trajectory has, so far, seemed to match fairly closely to Reagan. It won’t shock me if he sweeps a few blue heavens.
CO seems to be the most likely flip no one is really talking about, but VA would be hilarious.
VA would not shock me. Whatever Rs are left have gotto be pretty motivated after the past two years.
Those are not the sort of stronghold I’m talking about. A funny flip would be someplace like Massataxes or Oregon. The sort of state where the reaction would be “No fucking way”.
Trump wins his home state?
I admit I’d probably die laughing if New York flipped.
Repeating myself.
Trump wins in election in a red mirage.
Biden goes ahead based on late ballots (absentee and mail-in).
Lawsuits are filed to keep-in/throw-out late ballots.
SCOTUS rules for Trump.
Blue cities go up in flames.
And what is your worst case scenario?
You get to rent out the loveseat? Although I seem to recall japan taking a “Not our Circus; Not our Monkeys” stance on political refugees in times past, so maybe we need to find a Polish or Hungarian Glib (sorry Pie, but you have not made Romanian politics sound appealing)
Civil war.
Is that worse than a couple generations of one party leftist rule, auguring into a Venezuela style implosion?
I don’t think Venezuela happens here.
I think the shooting starts before Biden’s first term is up.
“Blue cities go up in flames.”
That’ll show them rednecks, works every time.
The only prediction I feel confident about is that neither candidate will get over the 50% mark in the popular vote. I’m thinking Biden will win by an edge, but the way some people have been acting (Biden suddenly campaigning hard – despite previously having pushed everyone to vote early, blue cities boarding up, polls swinging in the Trump direction) makes me think Trump has a real shot. It’s going to be close.
Guest lecturer
Former President Barack Obama on Monday made a concerted effort to turn out disaffected Black voters in Atlanta, using local civil rights icons and this summer’s protests for racial justice to appeal to voters who might be turned off by the more incremental changes accomplished by electoral politics.
“Maybe you don’t like who’s in the White House right now. But you just lost faith in government, you’re frustrated, you don’t think government makes a difference,” he told supporters at a Georgia rally, addressing his comments specifically to those who had decided not to vote in this year’s election.
The former president noted that he’d experienced his fair share of disappointment in politics both during and after his eight years in the White House.
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The former president’s plea comes as Democrats are pulling out all the stops to turn out Black men in Tuesday’s election, part of a key voting bloc that voted in lower numbers in key states that Hillary Clinton lost in 2016.
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Obama acknowledged that government is “not perfect” and “doesn’t solve every problem,” and admitted that even today he finds himself frustrated with the lack of racial and gender equity or with Trump’s refusal to condemn white supremacist groups.
“You owe your vote to the Democratic party.”
Wasn’t he the guy who brought forth a post-racial America? What a clown.
Good god, why didn’t ANYONE in the audience shout “you didn’t do shit for us”!
Because nobody would hear them from inside their car.
Yeah, we were all living in blissful harmony and then *BOOM* BAD ORANGE MAN!
No idea what that gibberish is supposed to mean.
“Breaking shit gets things done now, voting, eh, not so much.”
Not that breaking shit has accomplished anything.
And hey, who doesn’t want to get turn’t out, ammirite?
I’ve gave all of my employees the day off tomorrow to vote.
Sike!
The losers are working because voting is gay.
Name something you could do tomorrow instead of voting to make the world a better place.
Think I’ll go for a bike ride in the mountains. That will make my world a better place. I’m not responsible for your world.
Checking the air in your tires.
Making Jambalaya to take to hunting camp for my friends.
Orgasms make the world a better place. Have as many as possible.
Build a time machine, kill baby Brian Wilson.
Well if you’re gonna do that, I have a list for you.
Who says I want the world to be a better place?
Something I am doing – ensuring young relatives have set-up retirement accounts to take advantage of company matches and incentivizing by providing reimbursement for their out-of-pocket for year one.
Clean your furnace filter.
Load some magazines.
I’m getting my car fixed and hanging out with friends.
Of course, that’s cheating for me because I voted early.
Alphabetize your library of books.
Dewy Decimal System, please.
Mentor a child.
Foster a child.
Adopt a child.
Dude how many monocles do you need polished?
I did all three. The hard part is now I’m teaching him to skate vert. Painful when you’re in your mid fifties.
“I did all three.”
So did I. Although she has gone astray.
I put my foot down at the Black Lives Matter” sign in the window.
Same thing I do every night, Pinky–have brekkie/dinner, get cleaned up, go to work.
All without eating a gun, or, anything like that. But, it’ll be Tuesday, and Tuesdays are ‘GFY day’ around here.
Taking a shit outside in order to feed the cycle of life.
Am I one of few who voted early? Straight R – I hope Greenfield drives her dead husband’s Nova to California.
#MeToo
Name something you could do tomorrow instead of voting to make the world a better place.
Take your daughter out for a bike ride and an ice cream cone.
Just his daughter or anyone’s daughter?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Whatever you do, don’t forget to vote Thursday.
I wonder if the Biden campaign even cares what messages are being put out in PA as long as it sticks it to Trump. Just saw on tv a Biden ad that takes Trump to task for “scaring people.” Biden loves us, would never do that. Literally five minutes later, the Biden ad runs that claims “Trump will destroy your social security benefits by 2023” with his evil plan. I’m shocked Biden hasn’t run an ad claiming to be “endorsed by Jesus Christ” followed by an ad claiming Trump is a tool of the radical homphobic and white supremacist Christians.
I read that as “something I, Strraffinrun, could do’.
Oops.
I’m suing this site for false advertising. The ingredient label clearly lists its content as “glibertarians,” but I opened the bag and it was filled with “glibpublicans”.
Sorry we ran off all the real libertarians. Couldn’t help it, everyone who didn’t love the Donald is a libtard fake news.
You assholes are still going with hating the Dem agenda = loving Trump.
Seriously, fuck off.
No. How about you choke on my hairy ballsack until you die?
I prefer not to.
Well, don’t put words in my mouth and I won’t put balls in yours.
You are full of shit. How about just stating what you mean instead of dumping your insinuations so us low brows know where you stand?
Considering that I did just that down thread at @8:58 proves you’re a mendacious stupid cunt.
Now cry more about it, pussy.
You mendacious prick. Copying and pasting a long screed = you being clear and straight forward?
Have another merlot faggot
3 sentences and a paragraph is a “long screed”? Do your lips get tired when you read, you fucking mongoloid?
I must have really hit close to home with you for you to squeal like a stuck pig for almost a half an hour.
Another person’s words = you clearly stating your position.
OK
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
Is a position I agree with, and Jefferson said it quite eloquently, would I need to restate it for it to be clear?
Dude, take the L. It’s been more than an hour of you beclowning yourself. You fucking swung at me. Stop acting like an aggrieved entitled little shit.
Call me. I’m in philly.
[phone number redacted by SP]
You seriously just posted your phone number over a discussion on an internet forum?
I wasn’t expecting this whole exchange to get so sexual.
The entire thing just made me yearn more for the good ol days of John and Eddie.
I….I thought that was half the fun.
I’m the one untrue, not real libertarian. There can be only one. Unreal, man!
It’s not even about libertarian bragging rights. Williamson spoke truth to power when he wrote:
That, in a nutshell, has been my thinking since 1996.
I was right there too, until the capital L guy wanted to force me to bake a cake and his veep shilled for the biggest crook ever to run. I ain’t exactly true, but I know anti-liberty when I see it. I voted for the most freedom oriented candidate. I don’t care about the team.
What is McAfee, chopped imprisoned liver?
Chopped and imprisoned sloppy seconds whale liver, to be precise.
Not seeing a while lot of that. And if people are praying I’m not seeing any evidence God cares enough to intervene.
God’s too busy killing puppies. /not my words
There has always been two kinds of prayers: The transactional do ut des, and the ego-diminishing supplication of worship. We have too much of the former and not enough of the latter.
If you want something bad enough to solemnly ask for it from an omnipotent and all knowing entity, you probably possess the capacity to subconsciously make it happen and then praise the dogs for granting it.
Even if God is a myth I agree with this. The humility and aspiration to do right personally aspects of religion are valuable things.
The part that has annoyed me is the flavor of “OMG you idiots, you have to vote Trump because the left is bad.” That annoys me even though as I said above I am in fact doing so, and agree.
The reason it annoys me is because if I want to be yelled at by people who think it will convince me I will go to a Trump site. I come here because people here by and large are bright, value liberty, and I can go back and forth between interesting discussions and silly jokes, not to watch the few glibs who are willing to express dissent from “Team D is uniquely evil and must be opposed no matter what” get dogpiled. This is a silly place to campaign for Trump. Almost everyone here is anti D, and you probably aren’t going to convert the ones who are also steadfastly anti R, or anti Trump by yelling at them, or telling them that they are mendacious cunts because they point out hypocrisy from the right.
I don’t like any bitching at people about voting/not voting, or who/how to vote. I appreciate that it’s possible to talk freely about either side here, and I don’t really get a strong sense of uniformity from the group writ large. I’ll tell you what I think and listen or read, rather, yours. I’m just happy that there’s no incomprehensible blathering idiots TDS’rs here like the site which should be mentioned.
It is not the bulk of the commentariat that trips my annoyance meter. Not even the majority of the Trump supporters. It is a handful of people who seem to take any dissent as clear proof of ignorance, and when their talking points, that I also heard earlier that day on Limbaugh, or god forbid, Hannity don’t immediately win agreement, or worse yet get challenged as to accuracy, decide that the other party must be arguing in bad faith. Limbaugh is intelligent but entirely on Team Red and a master of spin. Hannity is an idiot and entirely on Team Red, and only able to regurgitate spin. I understand spinning things for your Team when campaigning. But I hate being sold to, and it gets my back up.
I call The Hyperbole a mendacious, loathsome cunt because he is, in fact, a mendacious, loathsome cunt.
And I don’t vote.
Just because I haven’t convinced you to vote for Trump yet, doesn’t mean I’m discouraged. I’ll have you voting for Trump for the next 12 years!
Damn it I am voting for him! But I refuse to say he smells like roses, he smells like shit, just not rancid plague shit.
My issue with you is that you like Cachaça.
See, I knew I could do it! *pats self on back*
Cachaca is the bourbon of sugar cane.
Count me in the group of people who don’t care who you vote for or if you vote at all. I like this site because people are capable of disagreeing without (for the most part) losing their shit and their perspective. Whatever else happens tomorrow night (or days from now, however this crap plays out), I hope to be able to keep visiting the site and surrounding myself with similarly liberty-minded people, regardless of how we all vote (or not!).
While there is something admirable in standing apart from the dirty fray and so remaining unsullied in one’s principles, I for one don’t have a taste for martyrdom. Roadblocks are useful. Martyrs never win, although their sullied followers sometimes do.
I can offer you a full refund and some free merch. You just have to pay shipping.
I CAN SUE MYSELF IF I WANT TO!
I can leave my friends behind,
I’ve seen how they dance.
And if they don’t dance, well, they’re no friends of mine.
That dance wasn’t nearly as safe as they said it was.
Looked like it could put somebody’s eye out.
Depends on where the eye was….
Do you prefer your publicans dour? Then move to Scotland! We prefer glib, or at least merry.
Despite being a quarter Scottish, they still won’t let me in. Something about the Home Office and “antisocial threat”.
ASBO Mulatto has a ring to it.
I got my wife reading the “Rivers Of London” books and had to explain the joke about a character driving a “Ford Asbo”
You really should add “Banned from Scotland” to your bio. It’s a badge of honor, given where they’re at right now.
Good point.
I got a Lordship there. Let me see what I can do, HM.
We’ll get you into a kilt in no time ?
I’ve been surprised, although I like to think it’s more “anti-left” than “Team Red”.
I think on my first day here, I got yelled at by multiple people for something critical of Trump. I don’t remember what it was about though.
Idk, Glibs has Hat & Hair and it’s not flattering of Trump and seems wildly popular. Maybe someone should have started a weekly “hear is how Trump is f*cking up” article, but it seemed unnecessary with the MSM on full court anti-Trump press. Personally I can’t standing listening to the guy and I don’t read news outside of here, so I couldn’t do it anyways.
I think everyone was suspicious of me because they didn’t know who the fuck I am, or even that I am the one true libertarian.
Eh, I believe it was Dean Martin who said “You only roast those you love.”
There are a lot of Well wishers here for HM tonight. They wish they could throw him in a well…
Most people rejected His message.
They hated Heroic Mulatto because he told them the truth. (Glib. 420:69)
Wow, a Jack Chick. That’s well played!
I don’t think it is Team Red, I think it is Team Trump, for a few people here and I think the MAGA diehards are very vocal here because it is one of the few places they can be without getting continuously attacked by Team Blue. I don’t like it when it turns nasty or drives people away.
“Glibpublican”
A junkie in a suit.
You never sample the merchandise. You dig?
I need to find the original dolomite, and not just the delightful Eddie Murphy vehicle.
I have it on VHS. I’m pretty sure you can stream it from somewhere.
Disillusions filling my head!
How about some 90’s druggie music?
This song, btw, is absolutely brilliant in capturing the subject.
*sigh*
I am so fucking sick of this.
That is all.
Show us on the doll where the evil world touched you.
I have an idea…
https://youtu.be/fbGkxcY7YFU
You win the internet.
*fist pump*
yesssssss
I’m afraid it’s a sour prize full of misanthropy and trolls.
I’ve plenty of misanthropy, but I can use the trolls to shakedown some local bridges.
Hyperion started it!
Well, I try to take turns, but if no one else will start it…
Look at Frick and Frack here.
I knew the best enemies act was cover for sock puppetry!
Who?
Word
Tomorrow or the next day or the next we’ll all have the same prez and the circus starts all over again.
I’m also getting damned tired of all the ads on TV for Medicare/Insurance, as if old people need reminding that insurance companies and doctors are in business ’cause they like us.
I wasn’t sure if that’s the new hotness or I’m just watching a lot more old-people TV now. But yeah, when I’m watching the seventies and eighties channel it’s wall-to-wall Medicare commercials.
Hell, it’s that way on American Pickers, too. Enough that I commented to the spousal unit about it.
/Not that I/we watch AP very often. No, really–I don’t!
Don’t worry, it’ll all be over by
tomorrownext weekJanuary.That’s what worries me. If there isn’t a decisive resolution and the count turns into a legal and media circus, there will be blood in the streets and buildings on fire. And I don’t trust the competency of anyone involved to expect the a decisive resolution.
I don’t care who wins, I just hope it is peaceful. We got through 8 years of Obama, I’m sure we can get through 4 years of Trump or Biden.
There must be over a hundred lawsuits or other legal challenges to the vote collecting and counting process.
This is going to be in play for a while, and the stock market ain’t gonna be pretty.
There are already over a hundred filed and in process.
How many more there will be after tomorrow… *shrugs*
Voted* Trump-a-lump, mostly out of an imperative to punish the Dems for their appalling antics these last four years, and the ever-more-distant hope that at some point some justice will be done against the leaders of the coup. I rationalize my strategic-not-principled voting by pointing at Trump’s record on judicial appointments**, and did vote for an Libertarian candidate for Congress whose campaign website made the the right noises about 2A and spending and nothing about social causes.
*The wife insisted on absentee ballots out of concern that DeWeasel would pull some last minute ‘rona shit with the polls
**But jeebus Kavenaugh we’ll regret that in the fullness of time.
Jo is the only LP’er on my ballot.
Same here. Sigh.
Eat, drink and enjoy Mammary Monday, for tomorrow the world ends.
https://archive.li/PBKk4
Where’d the dashboard go? I need to change my clothes.
It should still be there. What’s happening when you try?
I’m on my iPad. Can’t find the dashboard button.
… well, I’m out of ideas.
I don’t know much about apple products beyond the fact that there’s a BSD kernel in there somewhere.
I have Apple products because I need them for my work; otherwise, I wouldn’t.
Anyway, I went back in my browser history and got to the dashboard that way.
I was going to say I haven’t used one in years… but I remembered that my work-issued phone is Apple. I didn’t pick it, but if they need to be able to reach me, they’re going to foot the bill.
I use it on workdays because of all the teleconferencing.
Well, even then, my MacBook was gifted to me as a hand-me-down after Mr. Mojeaux built me a Hackintosh. He got the old thing updated and now I use it only when I have to upload ebooks to iBooks directly.
Barely dressed?
Okay, now I’ve got my comfy clothes on. I have a Christmas outfit all lined up.
I had to go into my browser history to find the dashboard.
Man, this is a hip crowd!
https://youtu.be/1csMoLgTMk0?t=44
They’re wacked I’m telling you. Look at Moj, she can’t even spell her own name now.
Man, Meat Loaf is one ugly motherfucker. He looks like the Elephant Man for crikey sake.
Yeeesh….
Note to self: cosmetic surgery before meeting with Hyperion
Votes are counted not weighed. Neither Trump or Biden is going to give a shit why you rationalized a vote for him. Each will do what he (or she) wants to do, assuming Congress is compliant. Us libertarian folks have got to look ahead to 2022 and pick our targets, research every crappy vote our Congresscum makes.
Then, hope like in 2010 and 2016 that the party in power’s folks don’t turn out in waves.
Oops, 2018 not 2016.
If anyone cares, 308 Win is still available at a merely terrible price.
https://www.federalpremium.com/rifle/american-eagle/american-eagle-rifle/11-AE308D.html
Better.
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/rifle-ammo/7-62x51mm-nato-ammo/pakistani-military-surplus-7-62x51mm-pof76251200-147-grain-full-metal-jacket-quick-pack-200-rounds/
Pakistani military surplus.
Right.
Only 1 in 500 are loaded with C4 instead of powder.
*orders 499 rounds*
Will a rifle primer set off C4? And these days it might be worth it to buy and break down for components, especially with bonus C4
I mean….he’s not wrong.
wut
https://twitter.com/BecketAdams/status/1323319906889322497
You cannot force those willfully blind to see.
You could wave the data at them, but it won’t matter.
In the span of 2 days, the media says that both Osama Bin Laden and Hitler are better than Trump. I don’t even have a comment for that.
Sure Osama may have blown up a building with thousands of innocent people, but Trump didn’t even follow the Paris climate treaty. That’s millions of dead people right there.
Trump is so great, even the Sun does his evil bidding to destroy the world!!!
He even has his own virus killing off half the population.
Makes you wonder who the left would support as a candidate, doesn’t it? Quite obviously, an insane mass murderer is not out of the question.
Wow.
I would have more respect for her if she truly believed Trump was worse than Hitler. I mean from the Walter Sobchak school and everything.
But she doesn’t, which makes this sort of thing even worse.
It’s blasphemy, but…
I saw that earlier today. Selleck had a good look, but I really dont think he would’ve had the same presence as Ford in the role.
Nice write up Supreme Trashmonster. You encapsulated my reasoning and feelings very well too.
I differ from you in that I did vote for Trump in 2016. With about 3 weeks to go in 2016 election, they aired a Hillary Clinton ad. I was shocked that the DNC felt the need to spend money in Minnesota. If the trump campaign had known they had a chance, Trump would have visited and bought ads.
I voted for Trump in 2016 partly to say “Eff you” to the way the major parties choose candidates, but mainly because I think Hilary is unusually corrupt and is perfectly happy to trade or sell secrets to China for Clinton Foundation donations.
This time I voted for Trump for the reasons you outline. Trump is crass but he does have the Dems scrambling which is entertainment in itself.
I hope when this is over, the Dems purge their party of the mega socialists, and the GOP goes back to fiscal responsibility. Then we can have debates about economic policy instead of cancel culture and Nazi spotting.
Why would the Dems possibly reverse course? The younger Dem leadership are outright socialists.
Because political parties are really about power and enriching themselves and they need to win elections.
They can’t reverse course. Once you’re controlled by the communists, there’s no way out, no going back. They’ll take us all down to hell with them before they reverse course. They’re still angry about the collapse of the Soviet Union, has nothing to do with Trump, he’s just in their way.
Who would think JFK and RFK’s brother would try to interfere with the ’84 election, for all the good it did? Or maybe I am just naive (…Kay) or was too young at the time.
I hope when this is over, the Dems purge their party of the mega socialists, and the GOP goes back to fiscal responsibility.
Sadly I’m 100% sure neither of those things will happen. And worse, it’s because the voters want the vices the parties are indulging in.
Right on Trashy, I appreciate the piece and I will be voting for T Dog (in about an hour once the kids get their bedtime story and go to sleep and I smoke a large spliff). This will be my first Team Red vote for Pres in my life. The main reasons for me are standing against quickly creeping cultural Marxism, the lack of new wars and general good I think he’s done in the foreign policy arena, gun rights, his getting us out of the Paris Climate bullshit, and that I want to see a bunch of proggies here and in the media cry their eyes out. The fact that Biden wants to double down on mask and lockdown bullshit is way up there too. And I cannot stand the thought of President Harris. I also have a couple hundred on BOM.
Re-reading my post, I meant to put “proggies here in SF” not here at Glibs. We have a fairly diverse set of opinions here and I dig it. I don’t want to see any of you cry.
Republicanism as practiced by guys like Matt Gaetz is an absolute scourge. It’s a blight on a logical and free society. If someone were to look up my history of political donations, they would find exactly one, for Gaetz’s opponent in 2016.
But as I’ve said before: they closed my gym (which is essentially my daily sanctuary) and strapped a mask to my face and apparently plan to do so permanently. However I might feel about political theory and my views on policies and such, in this instance they did something to _me_, and have made it clear they plan on continuing to do so. If Ducey was running, I’d vote for whatever Democrat was running against him. He’s not. If I was in Ohio I’d vote against DeWine and for whatever Democrat was running against him. I’m voting against Gallego (for Hamilton who seems reasonably libertarian) which will wind up doing me zero good, but I’m doing it anyway.
I’m a vindictive bastard that way. I mostly ask to simply be left alone. And they said “no can do.” So whoever has the best chance of beating Joe Biden is getting my vote. Trump’s an asshole and a dick, but he’s an asshole and a dick that seems disinterested in fucking with me.
Yup. Replace gym with pool hall for me
Replace any activity that was our outlets really. I mean there are places you still cannot go even outside.
Everybody FREAK OUT!
Nope.
Too busy listening to Frog Leap Studios.
Le freak, c’est chic.
Merlot? Really?
That was the most hurtful. I’m a bourbon guy. Insult me by saying I drink “Old Crow” or something.
An Ancient Age man, huh?
Ai-ya! The only thing I can think of below is Sangsom, which is a Thai rum they sold in 7-11. Even though I know the language well enough to know it’s not true, I am still convinced “Sangsom” is Thai for “rockbottom”.
I have good memories of both OC and AA as my Irish grandmother would buy both (the frugality of living close to starvation in the old country never left her) to have in her nightly highball which I would usually get one sip of if I asked. Whichever was on sale at the market when she bought.
I have a similar story with my stepdad and to why I will defend Genesee Cream Ale with my last breath.
Even the farts.
Nah, I’m good.
Be mildly amused?
If you insist.
Like seeing a police car?
Damn wrong song! Try this. Clicking when I should’ve been looking!
Let your freak flag fly…high
Mmmm, BBQ.
https://ibb.co/pZKzMD2
My wife made the best pork ribs ever a couple days ago. I don’t even know what that sauce is she put on them, but they were so good that I ate all of them and ask her to take the other half rack out of the freezer and do those also. Melt in your mouth spicy goodness of pig.
Pork proves that God lives Gentiles too.
I’d pull pork for a good pulled pork sandwich.
#metoobin
McRib is back! ?
Does un-breaded chicken nuggets reshaped into a rack of ribs count as pork?
I also voted for Trump. I am tired of fellow Libertarians bitching me out. Look lets be real for a moment, We are dangerously close to a one party system, a party where out and out socialists are fighting to take over. Libertarians ain’t winning anytime soon. Trump is more libertarian then Bush and Obama, so this is a positive direction, even though Trump is not libertarian. We are close to annihilation the French/Mao revolution has just started and we are closed to fucked folks. I would ally with the monarchists in order to defeat the Jacobins.
Trump’s the closest thing to a libertarian we’re getting and that we’ve ever had in my lifetime. I don’t give a fuck what he says, he’s a good president. That’s why I voted for him and I didn’t even feel the urge to say ‘but he’s an asshole, blah blah blah’ first before making my choice. He’s lowered my taxes, cut all sorts of regulations, no new wars, and more, he hasn’t really done anything in his 4 years to piss me off like every single other president in my lifetime. I think of the 8 years of Obama, the 8 years of Bush, the 8 years of Clinton. Jeebus, Trump is a godsend.
Trump disbanded the Y2K fed office.
After 16 fucking years under Bush Ii and Obama.
Just in time for the end of the Epoch to roll around. 2031 is closer than people realize.
… 2038.
Damn my corrupted memory.
The world will end before then due to
globalclimatehuman distrupted weather eventschange::Files support request::
We’ll send a tech out with a replacement DIMM. He’ll call an hour *snicker* no really an hour before he arrives.
“Not only is this model brain out of support, and not only don’t they make parts for it anymore, they don’t admit to ever having made parts for it.”
I’m with you, but he did ban bump stocks using an executive order, and tarriffs are a shit policy. Other than that, he has been decent.
I will say this about the bump stock situation: While it’s a wrong move, AFAIAC, it does seem to be the ‘least’ bad move he could make as far as restricting firearm-related items. Yes, doing so is a slippery slope. That said, it seems to be, in the (ugh…) utilitarian sense, something that affected a relative few people.
While I do not like it, prima facie, it has been a one-off in the 2A realm, from what I can see. Yes–so far. It was in response to a damn big massacre, which isn’t a time to make policy decisions. However, there have been other killings that didn’t trip his ban reflex. So, I guess, it doesn’t hit me as much as even the mere thought of what Joe & Co. have in store.
BTW if you are wondering your local news election political analysts are not paid, yes I’m still doing this, no I don’t want too.
Much appreciated. Would love to see a link but the privacy thing, understood.
It’s not too exciting, I am not going to do some heroic libertarian speech. If anything I am just a little bit more fair then the average analyst. I wish we lived in a world that I wouldn’t be hunted down and have my life ruined by doxxing myself just because I am not a democrat.
Looks like Nate Silver is still holding the Biden line but is stsrting to throw out caveats and “if this happens” scenarios.
Natey getting nervous. 91% chance of Hillary winning on election day, lol.
71, but why not pad number even if they go your way? Gaslighting it’s it just for progressives’ anymore.
Hey, at least I got the 1 right. That’s pretty good for an old guy who didn’t look it up on the internet before posting, since it was 4 years ago.
Ive said it before but i find the interpretation he uses a bit of a cop out. “Well yes it could happen, so if it does happen it doesn’t really invalidate my model, because 10% of the time my model produced those results”. Elections are not repeatable so such an interpretation really doesn’t mean anything.
So you are saying he is libertarian?
I’m in the same general line of work, though not in election forecasting. Every projection of that sort needs to be reviewed once the results come in and adjustments to the model need to be made (almost always tweaked in some way). It’s how you improve the model. Saying “well stuff that has 29% chance of happening happens all the time, so my model wasn’t wrong” is nonsense. If you go through the model, take in the new results and review everything for possible model weaknesses, and conclude it really was “just one of those things” then fine. Until then assume you missed something. Hell even if the 71% side wins, assume you missed something (it could have really been more like 85%). I’m not saying Nate doesn’t do that, but that’s not the tone he took publicly after 2016.
I’m extremely proud of the work I did in 2014. The work I do in 2020 is significantly better because I will correct what I believe are my past mistakes.
Silver has been pathetic this cycle. Really every cycle. He’s used his platforms to bash any poll that shows anything other than a Biden blowout, accused other pollsters of faking their results, and flat out said that he thinks there’s a chance Trump cheats and that’s why his numbers might be wrong.
I say what I’ve been saying all along. It’s going to be tight. Even if Biden wins, Silver and most other MSM polls are going to look terrible for anyone willing to dig into their numbers, but will try to hide it behind, “well we picked x race correctly when no one else did”.
Geeze. No one gets mad at me when i shitpost about you guys. It’s like you like HM better than me.
:Runs, Hides, Cries:
Fuck you leon!!!
You’re the only one who cares for me.
What are you talking about?
You mean those were actual attempts to get a rise out of people?
That’s what’s so funny. It wasn’t. I guess you’re not allowed to agree with Kevin D. Williamson in these parts.
well he was canned from the Atlantic, so i mean he’s not very respectable.
Try talking about eating ass?
I think I got mad at you once, but you actually consider your positions and listen to arguments so I didn’t stay mad. You need to dig in your heels and yell insults if you want to be properly hated.
Fuck you, Jarflax!
That’s sloper’s line.
Fair enough, what about “up yours” can I use that one?
Up your nose with a rubber hose? Bonus points if you know where that’s from.
Biden said it didn’t he?
Welcome back, blackjack.
*shoots hand in air*
Ooo ooo ooo Mistah Kottah Mistah Kottah!
I have no idea what your talking about, Chuck.
WB Kotter
No Vinnie Barbarino, but the same spirit
https://youtu.be/dslUKjOnH3Y
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait…
…Cancelled was Jarflax the entire time?
Of course. He kept his avatar. Though I have no idea why he changed his handle to something super generic.
Because he’s a cunte.
I wrote this before I read SP’s admonition. So I have an excuse.
I like you too Jarflax. Always have thought out input.
Thank you. I don’t actually hate anyone here. There are a few who annoy me occassionally, and I know I annoy people at least ocassionally, but for the most part this place is a very pleasant online community, the best I have been part of.
I will be glad once the election is over and some of the elevated tension can dissipate. Let it be so, please let it be so. I think the thing I hate most about the media is the endless cycle of increasing tension and fueling anger about every issue or case, no matter how minor, ambiguous, or local. We are all living with tension far beyond what is appropriate for our situation. I have not been in combat, but it seems to me that the tension level I feel, and hear others expressing is more appropriate to being under fire than to living ordinary life and I resent the smug assholes who gin that up.
What you have to do, leon, is help found a site. Post a wry comment to no one in particular on the site you helped to found and continue to volunteer your time helping maintain, have someone out of the blue take the wry comment way too personally and launch aggressive profanity at you right out of the gate, and when you bat them on the muzzle with your newspaper over it, he or she will act like the aggrieved party.
Also you need an avatar with a face. People seem to hate face avatars.
Avatar is non-negotiable, unfortunately.
Sigh. Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Well, that’s just like, your opinion, man.
The expression on your face in your avatar pic makes your comment 5 times funnier.
??
[insert Sean avatar here]
Face Avatar Avengers assemble!
Darn. All I got is a head shot.
Technically correct is the best kind of correct.
Darn. All I got is a head shot.
Your avatar involves a face shot, eventually.
Wry bordering on snarky, and your newspaper had an andiron in it, but yeah that was over the top. Although technically the initial comment was a response to Hyperion, which was a bit odd since Hyperion was saying the same thing only without the rage or ad hominem.
I laughed. That is my style, I have to admit.
I didn’t actually get that response, it seemed out of context, so I just ignored it.
Well, you weren’t so blind with rage to reply to the wrong poster.
Because you’re not mentally ill.
Somewhat.
Somewhat not mentally ill is the nicest thing anyone has said to me today, I’ll take it.
You left off “Shut the fuck up, ____tard”.
Mary Stack used to comment over at my blog. 😐
I think this song sums up my voting decision for Trumpolo
https://youtu.be/ZeMlQEWEg2Q
My only friend…
I am the Lizard King, I can do anything.
So if Biden wins, do the cast of SNL have to figure out how to be funny instead of just RHEEEing about Trump?
Looks at 2008-2016….*laughs*
I don’t think the left will elevate Biden to Alzheimer’s Jesus. Obama had a full blown cult of personality going. Biden doesn’t have a personality.
That is very true. I had almost forgotten about that elementary school class that sang a song to Obama.
That was Nork level personality cult.
The Cuban band at a Trump rally was just as cringy…
https://thescoop.us/watch-salsa-band-performs-at-trump-rally-what-happened-was-truly-incredible-video/
That’s pretty awful. At least Mike Huckabee wasn’t in the band.
LOL!
More talking of the outright silence. They cannot laugh at themselves and only can laugh at others. /Anti-Bullying Crowd.
If Trump loses, it will be 4-years of making fun of Trump (which there is plenty of good material that they just fail to even see through their blinded eyes) and nothing of the Dems. on SNL.
Obama had a full blown cult of personality going. Biden doesn’t have a personality.
Yeah, Obama actually had a personality, and charisma. When he wasn’t being a self-righteous asshole, he could actually be rather charming, so I could totally see the appeal. Plus the whole historic nature of his presidency and what-not, it’s no surprise he was treated with kid gloves. But if they don’t go after Biden, then they truly have lost the plot. It’s easy pickings.
Don’t underestimate the power of the RHEEEEE.
Most persuasive argument for Biden I’ve seen is the point that if he wins, we won’t be subjected to the SNL cast doing “Hallelujah” agan.
I ate for days over the tears of that skit
https://youtu.be/b5wfPlgKFh8
I don’t think they’ll do this again. RIP Phil Hartman. Andy Dick can choke on a bowl of himself.
Hartman was a soul lost way too soon, but dude, you stuck it in crazy.
If I don’t comment in the next 24 hours, it’s because I died of cat fart.
O.M.G. The WORST.
Wife and I woke up to the cat sniffing our faces…I think our time has come and we will be eaten.
I’m right behind you. Cat woke us up last night (this morning) scratching us through the covers to play. Go away, trying to sleep!
Look at my ass,
DadMom! https://youtu.be/Nzvm8k5kSjs?t=160https://archive.li/ebID1/2f9797071db8ef77543fd3fe4780569bc02e9993.jpg
NSFW.
Biden’s response.
https://archive.li/hjHF6/e7de181eee6443a2376f7414ad9119725aa93a94.jpg
Trump’s response.
https://archive.li/QDIf3/8a77c1755001d2a3792626115e5411280d8ed3a6.webp
Grazi
Giants lost by 2 points. Oh, well.
I watched the whole game. Jones is not the Answer
He has talent. He just needs to learn when to throw the ball away.
I’ve been giving him a chance and have been rooting for him, but after 4 years in college and 2 with the giants I keep seeing the same mistakes. He panics under pressure and just will not throw the ball out of bounds
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1323430341512622080
“Some or all of the content shared in this Tweet is disputed and might be misleading about an election or other civic process”
You mean not everyone agrees with everything a politician says?
No Twitter warning for this though:
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1323409554567094272
That’s some blatant favoritism
Correct term is re-education and/or propaganda. Neither tweet/post/article/etc should have any warning or editors note or anything else. But that isn’t the world we live in and the world that a lot of our fellow citizens want. They want to be told what is right, what is wrong, and who to punch in the nose.
Look at that picture of Biden with the fake tweets. It doesn’t even look like him. Is that Max Headroom?
‘We need a president to listens to experts like Fauci’. Fuck right off, jackass.
All stops are being pulled. If Heroic Mulatto’s Biden choice doesn’t come through he will spill his tea
I have never voted Democrat in my entire life and that has held true for this election.
I have also never posted my phone number on the internet for someone to fight me like a 5th Grader.
Also, what the fuck is it with you and beverages? You can’t drink wine, you can’t drink tea… what else? Is cum the only thing you drink, Ayn?
Jesus, why don’t you two just bang already?
Fights? Cool. Bringing it to a completely different thread? Nah.
I’m in NH. My number is 867-5309. Call me, homo.
You didn’t bring it to a new thread. I’m not calling that.
Why? Oh, you don’t know me, but you make me so happy. I tried to call you before, but I lost my nerve. I tried my imagination, but I was disturbed.
I know your type.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5BzKhPg86s
Goddamn you, HM, for infecting me with that earworm.
I can’t win!
I’d very much appreciate it if my little world here were more civil.
Thank you.
*cue sound of can lids being dragged across the curb*
Proper civility
Oh come on, mum, boys will be boys.
Don’t ban me, please.
If that was in reference to my comment about seeing progs cry here, I meant in SF, not here SP.
*shoulder slump*
*slinks off*
Well shit.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/02/europe/vienna-shooting-intl/index.html
Am I a bad person for assuming that it’s another case of the Religion of Peace striking again?
No. It’s probably over that French cartoon discussion shit. Because Austrian Jews have a huge impact on the French media studies curriculum.
I would say yes. Wait for the facts
It’s a good time to be thankful that we have a border with Mexico and aren’t in close proximity to the Middle East.
Javon Wims should be suspended for not being able to throw a punch? WTF was that was that weird push to the helmet?
(the first part was not intended to be a question)
Tier 1
• Pro-Life
• Gun Rights
• Religious Liberty
• Constitutional Originalism
Lets translate to progese shall we
Hates women
Hates children
Bible humped
Racist
Good morning glibbies.
It’s going to sound ridiculous, but I’m reminded of Jesus when he expelled demons. – it does sound ridiculous
Anyway it matter not there is no way Trump is winning for all that is worth… Although were I American I would probably vote for him because I see not one good thing about the other ticket.
Don’t believe the media hype. A while back, I put 10 bucks on a bet with the Old Man that Trump will win in a landslide. I’m pretty confident that I will win. Trump voters have always been undercounted in polls.
well you just don’t understand statistics and society and such. My proprietary model gives Joe a 98% chance
“Anyway it matter not there is no way Trump is winning for all that is worth”
OK, CNN.
Pretty good. You can just use ‘racist’ for the remainder of our antiquated rights.
Trump is screwed. I’m voting for him and I have voted in every presidential election since 1992 and I have never cast a vote for someone who ended up winning.
I don’t want your money touching my money!
Sound like my wife when I want to throw away some FU money at the casino “Don’t let me touch the chips! I am bad luck”
I have multiple reasons to vote for Trump on Tuesday. This is just the latest. A vote for Trump is a vote against public health totalitarianism. Obviously Trump has committed horrible errors in this area: endorsing shutting down the economy for two weeks in March and elevating Fauci and his ilk. But no matter how bad Trump is, he is not as bad as fucking American morons enthusiastically wearing face diapers for more than half a year and seeming to be determined to continue like that for the rest of my life.
It’s all so fucking stupid. You can eat at a restaurant, but only until 9:30. After that, the ‘vid grows fangs!
And mandatory public masks. It doesn’t matter that you’re 90 yards away from other humans…
SCIENCE!
Its to see who will comply, what the media will say, and what your peers will shame you into.
If it seems like it’s just a bunch of aimless non-sense with no real goal, it’s not. It has nothing to do with the virus, it’s an attempt to demoralize the populace and get them to obey every meaningless tyrannical dictate of politicians on a minute’s notice.
Conditioning for the one world communist utopia.
My opinion. I wish I were wrong. Someone tell me I’m wrong because I’d like to think I’m wrong.
You are wrong, but more closer to right than wrong which may be wrong, but could be right.
Thanks for trying.
If someone at Harvard said it then it must be right.
< 2% positivity and going back into lockdown? Jesus. CDC target rate is <5%
At least you aren't PR…apparently they are at 100%?!
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/testing-positivity
Then you have this twatter
lactosebomber
@lactosebomber
I agree but 2 percent positive rate is misleading. They have mandatory random testing at the universities with or without symptoms. Strip those negatives away and MA is at 6 percent and growing
Uh? So if you take away some of the numbers of those testing, the number goes up! Stop testing everyone and only test those that are sick and coming into hospitals, guess what you get?
Right on grrizz, I whole heartedly agree. The Dems have really gone over the top on lockdowns and mask mandates. There needs to be pushback on this. I’m sorely disappointed that it has been almost nil.
I called the number and got this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r3tS_80SLpo
right
Gah, between this, the post announcing forums, and and the actual forums themselves, I’m not sure what to comment on anymore! It’s information overload.
It’s that moment right before a hyperventilating society passes out.
I’m close, at least for tonight. I can already predict I’ll be working until they call a winner or give up on calling it, tomorrow. Peace to all, and hoping everyone makes it through this with minimum pain.
Good luck to you tomorrow. Sounds awful.
I figure, everyday comments here, big events that will be more ‘real-time’ will be in the forums and then there are OCD people who will go between both of them.
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/11/judge-restricts-feds-crowd-control-measures-to-one-square-block-around-federal-courthouse-in-downtown-portland.html
Mosman btw is the shit sandwich that ate the Steele dossier and crapped out an approved F
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/11/judge-restricts-feds-crowd-control-measures-to-one-square-block-around-federal-courthouse-in-downtown-portland.html
Mosman btw is the shit sandwich that ate the Steele dossier and crapped out an approved FISA warrant.
once was enough
Tell it to the squirrels.
Did you know that Romania has no squirrels?
They do, it’s just that they fly and hang upside down when they sleep. And drink blood.
Um.
https://mobile.twitter.com/8GeorgeFloyd/status/1323343292789121030
Rootless Cosmonaut
@RootlessCosmo1
Used to rob b***hes with you back in the day, RIP homie
I saw that tweet yesterday…..surprisingly amongst the comments there was astonishment and disbelief from Biden supporters that Harris posted this the day before the election, even they disagreed with her “equity of outcomes” nonsense. It gave me hope.
Equality vs Equity by Kamala Harris
https://mobile.twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1322963321994289154
Not surprising but damn…
Those government fellators, tho…?
Did yo know that rich people pay no taxes?!?!
/one more reason to become rich
Mood: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xRQnJyP77tY
?
I woke up at 1:41 this morning from a weird dream where I was looking for an elephant or an elephant was looking for me or something super strange like that.
Morning. Happy I voted day!
It was cool last night so I left the windows open.
Train passes several miles away at 11:45 and blows it’s whistle: local wolves howl like mad. My dogs go apeshit. Wolves got started again at 1:30 for reasons. My dogs went apeshit. Wolves got started again at 3:30 for more reasons. My dogs went apeshit.
God doesnt want me to sleep.
Reports from the Cleveland suburbs. An order of magnitude higher turnout then I’ve ever seen before. The line which usually stretches into the parking lot is wrapped three quarters of the way around the church/school. A little more distance between people, but not six feet.