Friday Afternoon Links of Feeling Lucky, CyberPunks

by | Dec 11, 2020 | Daily Links | 320 comments

She’s more put together than I usually am when walking Briz.

This game would be better if it was an entirely different game!” Lol. Cry more, I guess.

Speaking of crying more, I’m sure many of you will be clutching pearls over some aspect or another of this, which I have never understood but go ahead and go on.

Well, that sort of dovetails nicely with this.

Alright. Enough crying. How about some good news for OMWC and SP, two of the sharpest people I know.

I bet this guy is a blast at parties. So, how common are your traditions?

Meanwhile, in our local news segment… Pay what you can, eat what you get!

Here’s a little something from 2009 for your enjoyment; eye candy included.

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320 Comments

  1. Tres Cool

    ‘sup fam ?

    …Im going to bed

  2. KOVIDKristen

    Christmas Eve is a holiday!! WOOT

    • Ted S.

      Not for me it isn’t.

      (Well, next year I get it off since Christmas is on a Saturday. If my job is still around.)

      • rhywun

        #meneither

    • Nephilium

      Not at my work. But I’ve now just got 5 more working days this year.

    • KOVIDKristen

      Trump has decreed it.

      So let it be written, so let it be done.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Got it.

    • Ownbestenemy

      OPM or the pres say? Or just for you?

  3. Animal

    Speaking of crying more, I’m sure many of you will be clutching pearls over some aspect or another of this, which I have never understood but go ahead and go on.

    I have the same attitude towards this as I do towards most things: I don’t give an ounce of shit what people do, as long as they leave me alone.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      I’m guessing once those ovaries shrivel up, the Canadian health care system is more than willing to pay for the costs of fertility treatments.

      • But Enough About My Pulsating, Geriatric Pecs

        Nope. Gots me a family member who has to go private. She’s using a Stateside clinic. Big, big bucks. Bigly. The bigliest.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        🙁

  4. Shpip

    This Canadian Study Revealed Millennials Are Choosing Dogs Over Having Children

    I remember a commenter at TOS remarking once that children went from being an economic benefit to a luxury good sometime in the 20th century.

    Young people have a tough time affording luxuries.

    • R C Dean

      I get the distinct impression that a lot of parents spend quite a bit more on their kids than strictly necessary, even (way) past the point of diminishing returns for the kids.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Kids cost more but they last longer.

      • Bobarian LMD

        26 years.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        a lot of parents spend quite a bit more on their kids than strictly necessary

        Yep. By an order of magnitude.

      • Gadfly

        The same is true for people and their pets. If some scam artist manages to start a “Doggy University” then the gap between pet costs and kid costs will close.

    • Count Potato

      End child unemployment?

    • Shpip

      Of course, twentysomething me, who had a dog but no kids, noted that:

      – housebreaking a dog takes less time than toilet training a kid
      – a dog will never wreck your car while telling you it hates you
      – if your dog gets knocked up, you can sell the offspring and no one will bat an eyelash

      So I can see the kids’ point.

    • KOVIDKristen

      Children threaten the freedom of their parents by their mere existence. The State loves to harass & intimidate people with kids.

      “Nice little family you got there…shame if something were to happen to them”

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Its still an economic benefit when you consider how few people plan for retirement.

      • Gadfly

        Or that children are literally required to make the government’s retirement scheme work. No kids = no retirement, for most people.

      • DrOtto

        It’s not a Ponzi scheme at all, I swear!

    • Tulip

      I think children are what’s known in economics as an inferior good – as people earn higher incomes they buy/have fewer. (Not really, more investment good yada yada, but I prefer my version)

  5. Tres Cool

    “The restaurant is pay-what-you-can, or want, with suggested prices for meals. You can pay it forward for others, or do some light work, like dishwashing, in exchange for a meal.”

    Who wants to start the pool on how long till they tank ?

    • Animal

      What, they haven’t already?

    • KOVIDKristen

      There’s a pizza place in South Hero, VT that does this. They’ve been around for, like, 20 years.

      • Suthenboy

        I am guessing it is a money laundering operation.

      • TARDis

        Yep. But they are “good corporate citizens” so people look the other way.

    • Aus

      I seem to recall a place with this model featured on Mike Rowe’s show, “Returning the Favor”, but I dont recall the details. Great show btw if anyone needs to check it out.

  6. trshmnstr the terrible

    Speaking of crying more, I’m sure many of you will be clutching pearls over some aspect or another of this, which I have never understood but go ahead and go on.

    Not so much pearl clutching, but just confirms my biases that my cohort hasn’t grown up yet.

    Individual people and couples choosing not to start families is variety. A substantial portion of the generation in prime baby making season instead deciding to turn their dogs into “furbabies” is…erm… arrested development on a generational scale.

    Of course, if anybody here is gonna clutch pearls on this, it’s probably me, given my agreement with the distributist notion that family is the core unit of society.

    • DEG

      I’ve seen women in their 40s on dating sites calling their pets “furbabies”.

      I generally pass on any woman, regardless of age, that calls her pets “furbabies”.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        My wife knows that I hate the term so much that I go into a blind rage when I hear it and has fun saying it in public settings and watching me squirm.

      • Ownbestenemy

        My wife uses that term when trying to get clients but at home the first things to go if it gets really tight are the dogs.

        They are family but our kids have first priority when or if shit hits the fan

    • Don escaped Two Corinthians

      family is the core unit of society

      I haven’t heard a better idea than this one

  7. egould310

    I’ve been unsupervised at work today. Drank two beers before lunch (Cascade Lakes hoppy something IPA). Now I’m at lunch and just mashed a cheeseburger and fries and a Bodhizafa IPA.

    Remarkably, I’ve manage to be fairly productive. Gonna go back for a solid 2 hours, and drink another beer. Then I’m done. Happy Friday, Glibs!

  8. Pope Jimbo

    Sorry for going OT so early, but I have some good news from Minnesoda. The revolution is here

    Plenty of people in the industry have heard the rumors going around: That there are a significant number of restaurants that intend to open up their indoor dining again next week, even if Governor Walz extends the current shutdown past its initial end date of Dec. 18.

    The Governor had intended on announcing by the end of this week, whether or not he would continue the restrictions, which closed indoor dining at bars and restaurants (and fitness centers, bowling alleys, etc.), but has since moved that announcement to Monday. Given the fear of rising case counts in Minnesota due to Thanksgiving numbers still yet to fully be seen and taxed hospitals, the consensus is that the shutdown will be extended through the new year. At least.

    There was a meeting this last week in which I’m told some 130 small businesses discussed joining the ReOpen Minnesota Coalition to defy an extension of the shutdown orders. While that number is statewide, and includes some fitness centers and other affected small businesses, I was told by one of the coalition’s organizers, Darius Teichroew, that there are dozens of restaurants in the metro area that have signed on.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I hate to do this wall of text, but that story from EGF is behind an annoying pay wall. If this post is too annoying, feel free to delete it.

        A state-mandated shutdown, Boardwalk Bar and Grill co-owner Jane Moss noted, doesn’t stop her bills from coming in.

        That’s why she re-opened her East Grand Forks business to dine-in traffic on Wednesday afternoon despite a gubernatorial order prohibiting itg, and why she plans to continue to do so. And she’ll have the de facto blessing of city leaders while she does.

        “I have to earn a living. My employees have to earn a living,” Moss said. “My back was up against the wall, and you either lay down and die, or you fight back for your legal right.”

        Re-opening despite the order is Moss’ attempt to go down swinging. She imagines the Boardwalk, which had a financially “decent” summer, would survive if Gov. Tim Walz’s orders expired as planned on Dec. 18, but she expects the governor will extend them further into the winter, and Moss isn’t sure her business can make it that far. Business on Wednesday was about average for a pre-COVID Wednesday, Moss said, but considerably busier than a Wednesday during the pandemic.

        When Moss first re-opened the Boardwalk, East Grand Forks Police Chief Mike Hedlund stopped by to hand her a copy of Walz’s order and point out the section she is allegedly violating. But enforcement, at least as of Thursday afternoon, hasn’t gone beyond that, and it might never come from the city government.

        “We’re not going to take any enforcement action against the Boardwalk ourselves, as the city of East Grand Forks,” Hedlund told the Herald on Thursday afternoon, about two hours before the restaurant was set to illegally reopen for a second day in a row. “We’re going to leave that to the state.”

        That means city police will escort workers from the Minnesota Department of Health to the restaurant, note whether the restaurant is open each day and document all of the above as needed — but they won’t levy a fine themselves. Violating Walz’s order is a misdemeanor that could mean a fine of up to $1,000 or up to 90 days in jail for individuals, and up to $3,000 and a year in jail for business owners, managers or supervisors who encourage their employees to violate it.

        Mayor Steve Gander said he, City Administrator David Murphy, Council President Mark Olstad and Hedlund informally agreed not to enforce the governor’s orders themselves beyond pointing out the part of the order a business was potentially violating and keeping the peace if, say, a customer refused to wear a mask in a business.

        “We are staying the course with that and letting enforcement take place at the state level,” Gander said.

        Hedlund said the general sentiment was that the order came from the state and, thus, should be enforced by it.

        Gander described it as a “policy,” but didn’t know if it had been written down or otherwise recorded as such. It never approached a vote among East Grand Forks City Council members. Olstad did not return multiple Herald requests for comment Thursday, and Murphy was unavailable.

        Policy or not, the governor’s orders carry the force of law, which means the city has an obligation to them, according to David Schultz, a professor at the University of Minnesota’s law school who has taught state and local law for about 25 years. In theory, the city should be enforcing Walz’s order and, possibly, considering a revocation of the Boardwalk’s liquor license, Schultz said.

        “This is not a question of ‘am I going to give you a speeding ticket or give you a warning?’ kind of stuff,” Schultz told the Herald. “This is a pretty clear gubernatorial order of which it doesn’t sound like there’s any discretion.”

        But there isn’t an easy way to compel Eastside police to enforce Walz’s orders. The governor or other state leaders could financially punish the city by pointing state aid elsewhere in future budget cycles, potentially, but more straight-and-narrow enforcement mechanisms would presumably need an extraordinary set of circumstances.

        A pattern of nonenforcement — or a worry that East Grand Forks could be the first of many cities to leave enforcement up to state agencies — could be enough of a legal or political reason for Attorney General Keith Ellison to sue the city, Schultz said, but he felt that was unlikely after a single instance.

        “What he’s really relying upon is voluntary compliance with local governments to take the appropriate enforcement enforcement action,” Schultz said of Walz.

        Staff at the Minnesota Department of Health did not return a Herald request for comment Thursday. The health department is leading whatever enforcement action state agencies take, according to John Stiles, Ellison’s deputy chief of staff, and it reportedly sent Boardwalk staff a “cease and desist” letter on Thursday evening.

      • DEG

        Good for them for defying the order.

      • Tres Cool

        I think I found the problem:

        “The governor or other state leaders could financially punish the city by pointing state aid elsewhere in future budget cycles, potentially,…”

        #FollowTheJack

      • DEG

        On the note of defying Governor’s orders, I see a whole bunch of posts on Reopen-related groups about restaurants in Pennsylvania ignoring the latest edicts from Wolf.

      • Sean

        Good.

      • Drake

        Yes. I’d be glad to patronize a defiant establishment in eastern PA.

      • Ted S.

        “I have to earn a living. My employees have to earn a living,” Moss said. “My back was up against the wall, and you either lay down and die, […]”

        So much this.

        It’s part of what’s especially enraging about Andrew Cuomo’s Marie Antoinette-like comment that people like Moss should just go get essential jobs.

      • Grosspatzer

        We need someone to play Robespierre to Cuomo’s Marie Antoinette. Who will step up?

    • Count Potato

      Good for them. Besides doing more harm than good, I don’t see how these shutdowns could be legal in the first place.

      • Ted S.

        Because fuck you, that’s how.

      • Suthenboy

        “Congress shall make no law respecting ….. or the right of the people peaceably to assemble…”

        It is not. One of the flaws of the Constitution is the lack of consequences for violating it. That makes it a bit toothless.

      • ttyrant

        I sent e-mails to a few different organizations and people posing this same question. Among those I reached out to were a couple GOP state reps (one was my local rep, another is Scott Jensen, who has been one of the few local GOP guys speaking out against lousy use of data and the lockdowns) as well as the Minnesota GOP party as a whole. Scott was the only one who responded, go figure. The GOP here is, as far as I can tell, feckless.

        For what it’s worth, I also reached out to the IJ and posed a similar question. Although I was grateful for such a detailed response, I’m not sure I understand or agree with the response I got. Here it is:

        “Thanks for the kind words and for your support. We have been keeping a close eye on lockdown litigation. It has not been a core focus for us because our goal is to establish precedents that limit government power more generally, and the lockdown litigation thus far has mostly centered around the scope of the government’s emergency powers in a pandemic. That’s an important question, but decisions about that question are unlikely to help us limit government power once the pandemic ends. That said, there are an awful lot of groups out there who have been engaging in these lawsuits, including in Minnesota. There, our friends at the Upper Midwest Law Center (https://www.umwlc.org/have-a-case) have been challenging the governor’s orders. I haven’t actually seen a suit from them challenging the most recent one, but they have so far been the people on point for this litigation.

        Thanks again for the kind note and for your support, and I eagerly look forward to the day when these questions of ’emergency powers in a pandemic’ go back to being historical curiosities instead of the stuff of everyday constitutional law.”

        In any case, as best I can tell, the courts in Minnesota have no interest placing limits on any of Walz’ executive orders or defining what or how long he can declare a state emergency. Further, because the Minnesota Democrats control part of the state legislature, there’s not been any sort of concentrated push (on either GOP or Dem side) to try and vote on this. Like I said above, the GOP here seem to be mostly spineless.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        decisions about that question are unlikely to help us limit government power once the pandemic ends.

        They’re making quite an assumption there that the pandemic and seized government power will ever end.

      • Gadfly

        They are still arguing in good faith. To any reasonable person, emergency powers should end when the emergency ends. To a tyrant and their enablers, this is not the case.

    • DEG

      That there are a significant number of restaurants that intend to open up their indoor dining again next week, even if Governor Walz extends the current shutdown past its initial end date of Dec. 18.

      Good.

    • commodious spittoon

      “Drink your Ovaltine”?

      • commodious spittoon

        “Vote 4 Ted”?

      • KOVIDKristen

        I LOLed

      • Chipwooder

        It’s ok, you didn’t include any clews* to your identity.

        *Little inside Zodiac joke there, for anyone else who is into this sort of thing

    • Tres Cool

      “Kilroy was here” ?

  9. R C Dean

    I’m certainly not going to clutch any pearls. Since I don’t own any, that would be assault, theft, or possibly both.

  10. limey

    That kanYe track is on one of the million fancy perfume commercials that plague television screens this time of year. It also features what looks like Charlize Theron in some sort of fancy gown which I like.

    • egould310

      Here’s Crosa Rosa, an British band performing “Like a Lady”. https://youtu.be/AQpF0HBR5-8

      The music video was hilarious, but has been memory-holed because sexist and transphobic.

      • limey

        Pretty humdrum music. What was it? Men wearing dresses? How dare they.

  11. Count Potato

    “Do you tear open your presents the moment your eyes open Christmas morning? Tut tut. William says Christmas should be an exercise in restraint, and although stockings can be opened before breakfast, main presents should only be exchanged after the Queen’s speech at 3pm.”

    Whatever, asshole.

    • Count Potato

      “He advised people not to ‘pile up your plate’, and the meal should simply include a meat, one type of potato and two other vegetables”

      England only has two vegetables, and they are both cabbage.

      • limey

        Can confirm.

      • Nephilium

        Mushy peas.

      • KOVIDKristen

        Yeah, but the fart contests after dinner are epic

      • limey

        Can confirm this also.

        *plaaarrp*

    • commodious spittoon

      You may open gifts only after the masks have been locked to the children’s faces. Remember to affix your own before you attempt to secure theirs. The locks will of course release for meals at the regularly scheduled fifteen minutes intervals. Place gifts six feet apart and ensure all wrapping detritus is incinerated. If you cannot afford gifts due to prolonged unemployment, extra ration packets will be delivered upon request.

      • limey

        Yaaasss!!!11 I’m giddy with excitement. This is going to be the best Winterval ever.

    • egould310

      Yeah fuck that guy. People do what they can. It’s none of his fucking business what they do. Jesus christ my parents taught me to take care of my own shit, mind my own business, and keep my nose out of other people’s business.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Thats not the world they want for us.

  12. DEG

    Novelty hats and dad jokes are all part of the Christmas fun – but an etiquette expert has revealed the signs that he says show your Christmas to be ‘common’.

    William Hanson shared a list of pitfalls that he says expose your festive celebrations as a little less than posh, from artificial trees to the time you choose to open your presents.

    But some Mirror readers have called the guidelines “nonsense”, replying to say they will keep doing their “common” Christmas and loving every second of it.

    I tapped out here.

    That Mustang in the video is nice.

    • Suthenboy

      ‘Common’ meaning popular?

      Popular because people like it….uh huh.
      You can get your ass kicked any time you want around here and the best way to do that is stick your nose in other people’s business.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Common meaning peasantry. Some people can’t let go of the elitist sneer toward the unwashed masses.

  13. DEG

    Nashua, NH officials will meet Monday about curfew

    With new COVID-19 restrictions set to go into effect in Massachusetts on Sunday, officials in New Hampshire border communities like Nashua are worried that action will drive more people north, potentially spreading the virus.

    The city is considering steps to slow a rapid spread, including a possible curfew.

    “We are on the cusp of what’s probably going to be the most challenging couple months of the pandemic. Cases are on the rise. Hospitals are getting slammed. Death counts are also on the rise,” one Board of Public Health member said.

    The latest numbers released Thursday for Nashua show 82 new cases, totaling 498 active cases, the second highest number for any community in the state.

    The city has confirmed 2,640 total cases since the pandemic began.

    To combat the increase, the city’s Board of Public Health is considering a 9:30 p.m. curfew.

  14. Tonio

    “two of the sharpest people I know”

    Cheesy pun.

    • The Other Kevin

      It’s no gouda?

      • Grosspatzer

        Paging Swiss…

      • Ownbestenemy

        That joke might leave him bleu

      • Swiss Servator

        Et tu, Kevin?

        *narrows gaze*

      • The Gunslinger

        Watch out Kevin. Swiss will wheel you right outta here.

  15. DEG

    NH House Speaker Hinch’s death politicized

    The article includes this quote from the Clown Prince:

    “For those out there refusing to wear masks to make some political point – it’s horribly irresponsible. Use your heads. Stop acting like children.”

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Politics has nothing to do with it, Fools…..

    • kbolino

      Die without a mask = the mask would have saved you
      Die with the mask = somebody somewhere must not have worn a mask

    • Agent Cooper

      “For those out there refusing to wear masks to make some political point –”

      I fucking hate RULERS who BLAME their own SUBJECTS. Fucking hang this bastard.

      • Jarflax

        Hang the lot of them.

  16. EvilSheldon

    Ah, Polygon. You are a perfect example of why one should never, never, never do anything nice for a progressive.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Once you past the whinning of you didnt do trans right! It reads better.

      • Nephilium

        That’s right about where I tapped out.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Granted 1/3 of it was complaining you can be a lady with a dick but your peonouns are not separate…go fuck yourself, enjoy the world they built and move on with your life.

        Also, I never felt Geralt was the star of Witcher 3.

      • commodious spittoon

        He’s like Tim Roth in Four Rooms.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Adequate analogy. I was thinking more Macbeth but yours is more recent.

  17. Nephilium

    It’s Friday, which means that there’s a Zoom/Happy Hour/Sanity check that I’ll kick off at 20:00 Eastern.

  18. The Other Kevin

    That etiquette guy is like the SPLC of Christmas. Declare yourself an expert and make money telling other people how terrible they are. Once again, good work if you can get it.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      It just amazes me what people enjoy reading/watching/consuming for entertainment. I got about 3 paragraphs in before I was bored and annoyed. I guess a lot of people are itching for drama.

      • The Other Kevin

        It amazes me too, but it’s most of the Internet right now. Probably more than porn.

      • prolefeed

        Porn that can be easily measured is 30-35% of internet data consumed. Bigger than Amazon, Facebook, and Twitter combined.

        Throw in stuff like Q’s links, or sexting, etc., and it might be over 50% of the internet.

      • Gadfly

        And it should be noted that there is porn on Twitter, don’t know about Facebook, and I’m sure Amazon probably sells porn too, although I haven’t checked.

  19. Suthenboy

    Choosing not to have children?
    I encourage that. If you are dumb enough to buy into it you don’t need to be reproducing.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Yeah I didnt choose, I screwed up and thought with my second brain…both times.

      That said, they are awesome amd asshole all rolled up in how quickly can I get you out of my house.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      I’ve known plenty of people who chose not to have kids (or physically couldn’t have kids) and did so for respectable reasons. I’ve also known plenty who chose not to have kids for the stupidest reasons imaginable. Until last week, SIL and her husband were on that latter list. Now they’ve changed their mind and are having a kid.

      • Grosspatzer

        We were very nearly in the first group, as in physically unable. Turns out there was an issue with my plumbing that rendered me virtually sterile (oh, the needless worrying over youthful indiscretions!). 18 months after surgery to correct that condition, still no luck, and by that time we had hired an adoption attorney and had scheduled a visit from the state of NY to verify that we were qualified to be adoptive parents. The night before that visit, I came home to an ecstatic Mrs. Patzer who nearly crushed me as she informed me that there was a bun in the oven.

        That child, now 22, is named Matthew – Hebrew for “gift from Yahweh”. And he is exactly that.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Well HotAir thinks so.

      “Did Paxton file the lawsuit to distract from his own legal problems? If we say the quiet part out loud, it’s very likely.”

      He is just lobbing missles at an asprin factory

  20. Tonio

    So, Gov Northam’s new mandate for all masks, all the time, doesn’t go into effect until Monday. Yet on my walk today I saw people wearing masks outdoors while walking dogs and doing yardwork. Mostly young (under forty) people. Older people went about their business unmasked and unmolested.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Similar view from Nevada…60+ crowd dont follow the edicts unless they have to go in a store…even then its half assed

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Were they carrying their participation trophies too?

    • KOVIDKristen

      Lots of people up here in the Democratic Republic of NoVA have been wearing masks outdoors the whole time.

    • kbolino

      Maybe the virus will get the memo this time that it was supposed to care about the masks.

      • prolefeed

        I tried to explain the math to my mother, how even a perfectly fitted N95 math has holes small enough to filter out particles down to 300 nm. And the COVID-1984 virus is somewhere between 70-150 nm.

        I said the masks that almost anyone else wears is like trying to keep gnats from flying into your house using a window screen with a six inch mesh.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Nu uh…SCIENCE! says it works and oir science is better than your science.

        https://youtu.be/t0fCL82XwwU

      • Gustave Lytton

        Did you then explain how jet fuel can’t melt steel?

      • R C Dean

        Electrostatics mean masks catch things smaller than their holes. A properly fitted N95 definitely provides some protection against viruses. How much, I couldn’t say.

        The positive test rate for our staff, including staff that works in our COVID units, is in line with the community positive test rate. They wear masks, face shields, bunny suits, and gloves. AND ARE TRAINED AND MONITORED. So the right PPE done right definitely provides protection.

        What I see people wearing/doing in public, well, let’s say I have my doubts.

      • invisible finger

        If the staff positivity rate is in line with the community positivity rate, it sounds like PPE done right doesn’t make any difference,

        Or am I just to accept the postulate that staff positivity rate for a virus should be higher without PPE because hospital?

      • Gadfly

        I think you’re forgetting that just because they do PPE right on the job doesn’t mean they do it right off the job. Doing it right is a major hassle. It makes sense that if proper PPE provides protection, then when they are wearing it they are protected and when they are not they get infected at the same rate as everybody else.

      • R C Dean

        Our staff, especially COVID unit staff, is exposed at a much higher level than the general public. Without good infection good control practices, I have no doubt their infection rate would be much higher than the general public.

        Right now, we have over 100 COVID patients in the hospital. I have to say, when this wave began, I was thinking that it was running through a younger/healtheir population and we wouldn’t see hospitalizations and deaths at nearly this level. I actually have a list of about a half dozen things I believed or hoped for w/r/t COVID that have turned out to be wrong.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Right now, we have over 100 COVID patients in the hospital. I have to say, when this wave began, I was thinking that it was running through a younger/healtheir population and we wouldn’t see hospitalizations and deaths at nearly this level.

        Are you starting to see more young/healthy patients hospitalized with Covid? Or is the level of hospitalizations/death you’re referring to still mostly affecting the elderly and certain comorbid populations?

      • R C Dean

        Yes, they are running younger, although still a fair cohort of old/comorbid. I think we can point to significant comorbidities on just about every death, though.

      • Suthenboy

        You may be right, or the virus may be less infectious than originally presumed.

        While the masks do catch aerosoled droplets those droplets evaporate quickly. The dried snot left glue the cootie bugs down on the mask fibers but as you move and breath the fibers move and break those snot flakes up and very quickly they begin to work their way through the mask. I dont remember now how often the manufacturers recommend changing to a new mask…15 or 30 mins.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Thanks, that’s interesting. It’d be nice to see some studies where they assign hazard ratios to risk of covid hospitalization/death for different comorbidities. Maybe there’s some out there, but I guess doing so would undermine the narrative of dangerous covid is to healthy individuals.

      • commodious spittoon

        I’m sticking with: worse than useless. False sense of security, fidgeting with a face covering, wearing the same mask over and over again, not to mention whatever knock-on effects come of living life behind the linen curtain.

      • R C Dean

        For what the genpop does, I agree. I think from a “public health” perspective, our response has been an utter disaster, and if a true accounting were ever done, has a very high net cost.

      • commodious spittoon

        For what the genpop does

        Oh for sure. Encouraging reserving PPE for actual health workers was the last smart policy Fauci et al. had. Everything that came after was punitive, moral panic horseshit by vindictive bureaucrats and politicians.

      • grrizzly

        I’m not sure that the virus is less intelligent than people.

    • mrfamous

      The time is fast approaching where civil disobedience will be the only way out of this. They are _not_ gonna remove their boot from our collective neck.

      People really are convinced that there is a mountain of scientific evidence in support of masks because that’s what they’ve been told. And since they believe those people more than they believe you, it’s impossible to convince them otherwise even with the mountain of existing evidence to the contrary.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        The time is fast approaching where civil disobedience will be the only way out of this.

        *points back to May*

    • Tulip

      I’m still not going to wear a mask while walking the dog.

    • Grosspatzer

      Got a text the other day from a cousin (age 65) in Spokane. She will not wear a mask while shopping, and if confronted will claim a medical exemption. Which worked up until earlier this week, when the store manager told her that “corporate” had instituted a policy of “no exemptions”. Her response was to leave, and spend her $200 at an online retail outlet. There is still hope.

    • zwak

      I see them outside more now, with the caveat that it relates to how metaphorically close to Portland they are. In other words, if you go to one of the little ag communities 10-20 miles outside of Portland you won’t see a mask outside generally. But, if you go 100 miles away to Eugene, you will see plenty, including the WWI gasmask looking contraption I saw today.

      They are truly the new copper bracelet mixed with a Nazi armband.

    • Chipwooder

      This is where I draw the line. I’ve been playing along with the kabuki in stores and such because I don’t want to cause problems for the business owners or the poor working stiffs charged with enforcing it, but I am absolutely not wearing shit outdoors.

  21. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Please, anything millenials do to self-limit their reproductive capacity is probably a good thing.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    What the everloving fuck?

    Dee Dee Myers, the first female White House press secretary in history and recently a top executive for Warner Bros., will become the chief economic and business adviser for California Gov. Gavin Newsom as he grapples with a pandemic-stricken economy.

    Myers, 59, will start Friday as senior adviser to Newsom and director of the Goveror’s Office of Business and Economic Development, she said in an interview with POLITICO. She’s joining the governor’s office as not only California needs repair, but also Newsom’s reputation after he attended an expensive dinner with lobbyists last month that drew criticism as the state entered an unprecedented surge of coronavirus infections.

    “There are challenges — but a lot of opportunities here,” Myers said of the state’s economic situation, adding that she’s eager “to get these businesses, and small businesses, back on their feet and provide resources and capital.”

    Myers said she intends to advise the governor on California’s vaccine rollout as part of her work with the business community.

    ——-

    Myers’ move to Newsom’s inner circle adds a seasoned adviser with a national profile on networks and cable TV. Her presence in Newsom’s office — known as the “Horseshoe” — also could shore up an administration that has seen high-level departures this year. They include the exits of communications director Daniel Zingale and legislative director Anthony Williams, as well as the impending departure of chief of staff Ann O’Leary, as reported by POLITICO.

    The communications veteran’s background could also help Newsom rebound after political gaffes like his French Laundry birthday dinner with lobbyists, as well as overcome criticism and resentment from business interests who say his stay-at-home orders may permanently force thousands of California restaurants, nail salons and small retailers out of business.

    The economy is in ruins. We need a slick PR consultant from the Dem Machine. She’ll know what to do.

    • Suthenboy

      I know what to do. They should call me.

  23. prolefeed

    I don’t get why anyone here would give a fuck about someone voluntarily choosing to kick themselves out of the gene pool. The ire should be reserved for people, such as Chicom or Nork officials, telling people when and if and how many kids one can have, and with who.

    Cities for some time now have been biological sinks, with the countryside compensating for the shortfalls in reproduction rates in the city.

  24. Tulip

    Great, now I have to make a pizza using cheese roses. Wanders off to sharpen knives.

    • Count Potato

      Wouldn’t the roses melt?

  25. grrizzly

    No one will accuse these two gentlemen of being too passive and obedient.

    Mask argument leads to store worker assaulted in Manchester, N.H., police say — 11:34 a.m.
    By The Associated Press

    Police in Manchester are looking for two men accused of assaulting a convenience store worker after an argument about wearing a mask.

    Police said the worker told a man on Nov. 30 that a face covering was required in order to be inside the store because of the coronavirus pandemic. The two got into an argument. The man said he’d be back and left.

    The worker said a short time later, the man returned with another man and that they ripped down a plexi-glass barrier, jumped over the counter, and began punching him before ripping off his shirt.

    Police said numerous items were knocked off the counter and the credit card reader was broken.

  26. Count Potato

    “Motorist plows into group of 40-50 Black Lives Matter protesters on the sidewalk in New York City – injuring at least four

    Several of the protesters are said to have surrounded a car. Moments afterward, the driver of the car drove into the group, injuring at least six people.

    The injuries are not considered serious, though several of those hurt were taken to a hospital.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9044939/Motorist-plows-group-pedestrians-New-York-City-injuring-four.html

    • The Other Kevin

      Surprising how bold those white supremacists are, even after Biden’s decisive victory.

    • Grosspatzer

      “Go play in traffic”.

    • limey

      #48hourrule ?

    • R C Dean

      This statement:

      Several of the protesters are said to have surrounded a car.

      Is hard to reconcile with this statement.

      Moments afterward, the driver of the car drove into the group,

      If the group surrounded the car, how did the driver “drive into” it? My bet is he was trying to “drive out of” it.

  27. mexican sharpshooter

    Meanwhile, in our local news segment… Pay what you can, eat what you get!

    This seems like an easy way to drive away paying customers by attracting the homeless.

    • Sensei

      I think it would depend on accessibility.

      If you can only essentially get there by driving and it is in an affluent area I could see it being an interesting proposition.

      I’m still not sure I’d try it, however.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Keep it away from the railyard I suppose.

  28. hayeksplosives

    Man, that English wanker calling everyone’s traditions “common” as a derogatory term needs to get bent.

    People celebrate the way they want. Family traditions might come from other cultural influences, from necessity, or for grins. Why should it be a sequence of preplanned moves like a play that nobody is enjoying?

    The “posh Christmas expert” lost all credibility at the get-go by calling things “common” as an insult. Common means widespread and popular. Maybe those customs are common because people enjoy them.

    This guy gets a big bah humbug from me.

    • Sensei

      Here in the metro NYC we are mostly just numb to that kind of stuff.

      In my group at work it’s an 1/3, 1/3. 1/3rd ratio. A third of us think this is ridiculous, another third is panicked and the remaining third kind of splits down the middle thinking that some of this shit makes sense and is helping.

    • Ted S.

      It’s another Chrome-only page?

    • Pope Jimbo

      It is like the Twin Cities hardly have any major outbreaks of the Rona. But look at the devastation being reaped on those non-mask wearing deplorables out there in the sticks! Hah! They sure are getting it good.

      For example, look at western Minnesoda. Sure looks like Moorhead is getting it good. Them and those stupid non mask mandating NoDaks (not any more) are sure getting infected like crazy.

      But zoom in and what do you find? That big giant blob of infestation isn’t Moorhead at all. It is some little nearby community that had 17 cases out of 100 people. All the big giant blobs shown on that map along the western border are instances of small communities having a few cases. The entire 7 country metro area where Mpls and St. Paul are located look like one of the safest places to be.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Maybe that map is only funny if you have a grasp of Minnesoda geography.

        Like I said, looking at it, the first impression is that the countryside is getting slammed. Then you realize the size of the blobs is based on the cases/1000. So the huge blob of 17 cases in a zip code covering 100 people makes it really stick out… for 17 cases.

  29. Count Potato

    “‘The final nail in the coffin for NYC restaurants’: Indoor dining will STOP on Monday despite it causing less than 1.34% of new COVID cases

    Governor Cuomo has announced that indoor dining in New York City will end on Monday, despite it being to blame for less than 1.34 percent of the new COVID cases in New York State, in what restaurant owners say is the final nail in the coffin for an industry that is hanging by a thread.

    The decision serves as a death warrant for many small, independently owned restaurants which have struggled to stay afloat in New York City through months of closures, punitive restrictions and with no stimulus money since April.

    Cuomo said on Friday that he isn’t opposed to giving out state relief but that he was going to wait and see if the federal government provide stimulus first.

    New York City’s hospitalizations are rising but it still is nowhere near where it was in the spring. There are still thousands of hospital beds free”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9044211/Indoor-dining-New-York-City-STOP-Monday.html

    • Ted S.

      I heard incredibly enraging excerpts of Human Filth Cuomo’s lecture on the closures on the local news today.

      First was a clip saying that the federal government needed to subsidize states like his that deliberately threw people out of work, and that this was the only solution.

      Then he said something about “when you [the impersonal ‘you’] shut down indoor dining”, not accepting that he personally is responsible for putting all the people out of work.

      Another enraging story was presented as a “bright spot”: a propagandistic reworking of “The Night Before Christmas” telling us to OBEY CDC GUIDELINES.

  30. Count Potato

    “House minority leader Kevin McCarthy signs up to demand for Supreme Court to overturn election result as Texas AG says he DOESN’T have to show there was fraud – it’s up to swing states to prove Joe Biden won fairly

    Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.), the House minority whip, had already signed onto the effort.

    The names provide a real-time guide within the elected GOP for who supports ‘Kraken’ style lawsuits to overturn the election despite the popular vote, versus a smaller bloc clinging to traditional norms.

    In the Senate, Republican whip John Thune of South Dakota was dismissive of the suit. ‘I just don’t know why a state like Texas which never wants anybody telling them what to do, now wants to tell a bunch of other states how to run their elections. I doubt the Supreme Court will take it up,’ he told The Hill newspaper.

    The state AG claims in a new filing it is ‘impossible’ to know who won the election – and faults four states for failing to ‘show’ that Biden won.

    AG Ken Paxton, who has been photographed with the Trump in the presidential limousine and who is under indictment but maintains his innocence, responds to the charge that his lawsuit seeks to ‘overthrow the votes of the American people.’

    Although the suit seeks to overturn the vote in four states that went for Joe Biden, Paxton rejects the claim.

    ‘Texas does not ask this Court to reelect President Trump, and Texas does not seek to disenfranchise the majority of Defendant States’ voters,’ according to the response. ‘To both points, Texas asks this Court to recognize the obvious fact that Defendant States’ maladministration of the 2020 election makes it impossible to know which candidate garnered the majority of lawful votes,’ according to the filing.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9043919/Texas-AG-claims-DOESNT-fraud-Supreme-Court-overturn-election.html

    If it goes to SCOTUS, I wonder if Thomas will be the only dissent.

    • Urthona

      It will be tossed quickly.

    • Pope Jimbo

      There sure are a lot of GOP-ers who have supported that suit. I wonder how many of them did so because they don’t want to run afoul of the Trump voting base. They don’t really think the lawsuit has a chance in hell of succeeding, but in the craven hearts they are scared that if they oppose it, the deplorables will primary their ass.

      • The Hyperbole

        I wonder how many of them did so because…

        All of them?

      • Gadfly

        It’s also possible that they do think there’s been cheating, and they don’t want to be cheated in the future. Even those who are in it purely for the graft know that the graft is better if you win from time to time.

    • prolefeed

      If it is 8 to 1 against, I doubt SCOTUS will even give it a hearing.

    • limey

      That’s horrible ?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Absolutely it is but that is no lightly driven path, especially with Vegas growth in past 5 years. 10 years ago? Yeah road would probably be your own for stretches at a time.

      • Ownbestenemy

        To add, their last leg would be on the 15 which has shithead Cali drivers speeding their way to party and gamble.

        I just don’t understand why that is the route you would take for a ride

      • limey

        It does seem odd but I’m not familiar enough with the roads/traffic to comment other than: sad.

  31. Aus

    I have a policy of not buying PC games on or around release day.

    So how is Cyberpunk? Good?

    Im on a trip to rural location with poor internet so havent done any research myself 🙂

    • Q Continuum

      It’s good, I like it.

      And it’s the first game I’ve ever seen in which you can customize your character’s genitals.

      • mrfamous

        I”m speculating, but I’m gonna guess Japan has a lot of those

      • LCDR_Fish

        The genital thing is just so bizarre. Am I the only one who plays these games without trying to do any kind of relationship “quest”/etc other than the ones that are required for plot stuff?

        That said…I’m thinking about picking it up for Xbone by the end of the month assuming I hear that some patches have come out.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Given it is a cyberpunk genre and all aspects of your humam form are customizable, why not? CD Projekt isn’t one to shy from adult concepts in their games

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I decided to get it after seeing how many Glibs have enjoyed it, but it doesn’t look like my 1050Ti card can support it. I’m glad I checked before purchasing. I’m surprised and guess I’ll need to drop more on my next laptop for a better card. Probably will need to anyway to run virtual reality.

      • Gadfly

        And it’s the first game I’ve ever seen in which you can customize your character’s genitals.

        Conan Exiles had this feature as well, although not quite to the same extent as Cyberpunk 2077.

    • commodious spittoon

      I have a policy of not getting a new GPU until it’s in stock. ?

      • commodious spittoon

        I’m planning on grabbing a 3080ti if there’s decent availability and I don’t have to sit on a dozen retail sites hitting F5 for hours. If not, I guess I’ll go Ryzen.

    • limey

      Is this the all Realdoll edition?

    • SandMan

      which one is the spy?

  32. Nephilium

    Just got the confirmation from my sister, no hosting for Christmas this year. I’m so tired of this bullshit ‘vid theater nonsense.

    • The Last American Hero

      Hey now, my newspaper breathlessly reported the massive increase in positive tests this week. And we have 350 people hospitalized for the rona. How many beds in the state you ask?

      5,200.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    I’m still not going to wear a mask while walking the dog.

    It’s too late. The dog already knows what you look like.

  34. grrizzly

    The “Expert Consensus” Also Favored Alcohol Prohibition

    Most people today regard America’s experiment with alcohol prohibition as a national embarrassment, rightly repealed in 1933. So it will be with the closures and lockdowns of 2020, someday.

    In 1920, however, to be for the repeal of the prohibition that was passed took courage. You were arguing against prevailing opinion backed by celebratory scientists and exalted social thinkers. What you were saying flew in the face of “expert consensus.”

    There is an obvious analogy to Lockdowns 2020.

    • Grosspatzer

      Great read, thanks.

      What finally broke Prohibition was not the replacement of one scientific orthodoxy for another but the noncompliance on the part of most of the population. When enforcement became unviable, and FDR saw opposition to Prohibition as politically advantageous, the law finally changed.

      So much this, but it will take time to get out from this – prohibition was around for over a decade – and there will be a lot of damage. I still can’t understand how the same people who are gung-ho about mask mandates, business constraints and outright shutdowns can simultaneously proclaim their virtue by encouraging “shopping at local businesses”. On an internal slack channel, no less. My response was about as restrained as I could manage: “Great idea! Unfortunately, many of my local businesses are already shuttered. Permanently.” To which the OP responded, “Oh, that’s terrible”. And… that is all.

    • Gadfly

      That’s a great point. I’ve been thinking about that lately, what with the whole push to censor misinformation. Most new ideas start out as “misinformation”, so to censor misinformation is to halt social progress. It’s good to see examples of this.

  35. mrfamous

    From the new gun lady Colorado congresswoman on Twitter.

    Solid fucking gold

    • Sean

      *facepalm*

    • R C Dean

      He didn’t have one at all. Red dress lady had to hand him one. And it looks like there were more on the table, so I guess Important People don’t wear masks at all except for on-camera virtue signalling.

  36. Pope Jimbo

    As a kid I was an insufferable snot who drove my parents to drink with my incessant pleading to open “just one” present early. Looking back, I would have beaten Young Pope-J daily for his shitty actions.

    My parents wouldn’t have cared who wrote what about proper Christmas traditions, they were going to let us open presents on Xmas Eve just to shut my dumb ass up.

    • Ownbestenemy

      The goal is to have a monolithic approach to all aspects of our life. Everyone will open present when their Amazon Echo chimes, the second chime will be for your daily protein ration and multi-vitamin pills.

    • Pope Jimbo

      My kids were almost as relentless in trying to open presents early as I was, so I guess I reaped what I sowed.

      I remember as a kid that my dad would go into the office on Christmas Eve. I couldn’t fathom how he could bear to go to work when presents were just a few hours away!

      Fast forward to me being an adult with small kids at home. I would wake up extra early get my share of the cooking and prep work done and then go into the office just as the kids were starting to wake up. Since we were working at a startup it was OK to bring in beer, whiskey or some other libation to the office. Myself and my partners would spend pretty much the rest of the day hiding out from our wives and children and having a few drinks. Mid-afternoon, we’d head back for family dinners and presents. So I learned why my dad left the house.

      As a bonus, most of our clients discovered what we were up to on Christmas Eve and they too would drop in for a toddy and to talk smart before they had to leave for their families.

      • Gadfly

        My kids were almost as relentless in trying to open presents early as I was, so I guess I reaped what I sowed.

        It would be interesting to know if this pattern held true for your parents, if they would admit it.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I doubt it. Both were from fairly poor families.

        Dad used to talk about the best gift they got as kids was a crate of fresh oranges from someone Gramme knew working in Central America. Not because they were starving, but because in the ’40s/’50s fresh fruit in the middle of a Minnesoda winter was manna from heaven.

        Mom had 9 siblings, so not a lot of room for fancy (or plentiful) gifts.

        My kids and I are all spoiled.

    • Ted S.

      And now you’re an adult insufferable snot! :-p

      • Pope Jimbo

        True dat!

        And I defy you to point out where I’ve ever said different!

  37. KSuellington

    I have never seen the point of those who insist that other people should have kids. “It ain’t nodbodies’ business if you do” and all. I don’t consider it an NAP violation to make fun of those who put dogs into strollers and treat them like kids though.

    • TARDis

      When I see someone step in front of a speeding bus to save their dog, then I won’t mock them. Until then, they are fair game. Everyone else can just pipe down about their furbabies.

      On that note, kids are both new slaves for the state and weapons to be used against you. Not having them is no sin to me.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      I have never seen the point of those who insist that other people should have kids.

      Busybodies is all.

      I think kids are great. One of mine is snuggled up next to me right now watching Cinderella. However, I’d never presume to know whether having kids is right for somebody else. There are too many legit reasons to forego (whether by choice or being forced into the situation).

      • KSuellington

        I’m with you on the “furbabies” trashy. Maybe not quite as vehemently as you but it really grates.

    • Count Potato

      Who was piling the bikes?

  38. Count Potato

    “NEW: Hawaii Rep. @TulsiGabbard introduces bill called ‘Protect Women’s Sports Act’ — would clarify Title IX protections to be based on biological sex, which would impact transgender athletes participating in athletic programs for women and girls”

    https://twitter.com/TheTomGeorge/status/1337162110619414529

    • limey

      Go Tulsi!

  39. The Late P Brooks

    Sedition! Treason! Plots!

    I would add a warning to Trump, his attorneys and his supporters in Congress: many of Trump’s words and deeds in this case and other matters have resulted in so much anger, so much hatred, so much rage based on so many lies that it is very possible some dastardly deed may be committed against one of many public officials including elected officials, election administrators and medical authorities battling the COVID-19 plague.

    If any of these individuals receiving threats of violence are physically attacked, the president would be widely seen as inciting violence, making him morally guilty in many eyes, and potentially legally liable.

    No president, from any party, from the founding of our nation until today, has ever tried to attack and destroy American democracy the way Trump has. No president, no Democrat, no Republican, no liberal, no conservative, no moderate, no leader in the history of our Republic has ever done what Trump has done, and continues to do today.

    Somebody needs a nap and a juice box. And maybe a history lesson or two.

    • TARDis

      No president, no Democrat, no Republican, no liberal, no conservative, no moderate, no leader in the history of our Republic has ever done what Trump has done

      Expose the breadth and depth of government and corporate corruption? Why, yes. You are correct. And doesn’t he mean “our democracy”?

      Somebody needs a nap and a juice box.

      I would be happy to induce said nap with a rounder bat upside his noggin.

    • R C Dean

      Oh, get a grip already.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “and potentially legally liable”

      Pfffft, good luck with that brah…

    • Ted S.

      is very possible some dastardly deed may be committed against one of many public officials including elected officials

      Did they get a comment from Steve Scalise?

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Ewww, that Republican? He doesn’t count.

    • Gadfly

      No president, from any party, from the founding of our nation until today, has ever tried to attack and destroy American democracy the way Trump has.

      LOL. So I guess Obama spying on Trump doesn’t count, or Nixon spying on whoever doesn’t count, or the many other known cases of presidents abusing their power to try to sway the political winds. And lets ignore what John Q. Adams’s crew did to maneuver their way into a win, let alone the corrupt bargain that put Rutherford B. Hayes into power. I can’t quite tell whether this statement was born out of ignorance, mendacity, or both.

    • Grosspatzer

      Dean of Journalism at one of America’s most prestigious institutions well-known indoctrination centers

  40. Gadfly

    Well, that sort of dovetails nicely with this.

    FTA:

    The draft law, which would allow the legal termination of pregnancies up to the 14th week, was passed with 131 votes in favor, 117 against and six abstentions. It will now move up to the Senate, where an even tighter vote is expected.

    The Pro-Life movement in the US would be lucky to get legalized abortion restricted this much.

    • Gadfly

      Is that a good sign or a bad omen? I haven’t been paying enough attention to the IFLA posts to figure this out on my own.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I take that as a sign that God’s extremely displeased. We already have the Pale Horse of Pestilence cruising around these parts, come on Supreme Court, let’s not tempt fate.

  41. Gadfly

    Speaking of crying more, I’m sure many of you will be clutching pearls over some aspect or another of this, which I have never understood but go ahead and go on.

    FTA:

    A site called Rover.com dug up some data on how Canadians view their dogs and it revealed some pretty amazing statistics! According to their study, 44% of millennials see their pets as a surrogate to children. This means that almost half of millennials are choosing to own a dog instead of having kids, which is pretty great!

    If this is really true, then it goes to show why the progressives are so eager to realize their utopia today and are no longer patient with the Fabian strategy. The conservatives are still having children, and the extremely conservative are having lots of them. If demographics is destiny, then the future is conservative, because everyone else is vacating the field of the future.

    • R C Dean

      44% of millennials see their pets as a surrogate to for children

      It would be nice if professional writers actually knew how to write.

    • creech

      That assumes, perhaps illogically, that conservative parents have kids who grow up to be conservatives too.

      • Gadfly

        The evidence is pretty solid that the real baby factories, the Amish, Orthodox Jews, and the like, have very high retention rates. Their conservatism is not mainstream conservatism, but if present trends hold (always a big if for any trend), it will be in about 100 years. If half of millennials don’t have kids, but the ~2% of the population that is highly religious is doubling their numbers every generation, it won’t take much time for there to be massive demographic shifts. On top of that, most young conservatives of the mainstream variety seem to come from conservative backgrounds, so the retention rate in that department must be over 50%, which is all it takes when your society in general is experiencing a baby bust.

    • Sean

      Good one.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      God bless that surly prick.

    • Q Continuum

      You sicken me.

      • TARDis

        Ewww. That reminds me of a video of a centipede killing a lizard and eating it.

    • Pope Jimbo

      *snort*

  42. Q Continuum

    Looks like they’re going to dump Senile Joe a lot sooner than I originally thought.

    Notice how all of a sudden the Hunter Biden scandal is getting traction, just a month after the election? Yeah *that’s* a real coincidence…

    I predict that they’ll force him to resign (or 25th Amendment his ass) sometime this Spring.

    • R C Dean

      He’ll resign. No way on this planet do the Dems let the spectacle of a forced removal go forward. Their biggest problem is going to be Jill “Edith Wilson II” Biden.

      • TARDis

        Jilly and Moochelle should run next time.

      • creech

        Hey, it’s DOCTOR Biden.

      • KSuellington

        *cough, cough* Um that’s DOCTOR Jill “Edith” Biden.

      • The Last American Hero

        They’ll get his doc to say he has Alzheimer’s. He’ll resign as a much beloved tragic hero.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Uffda. It would be entirely worth it if they have to call out the armed forces to remove President Joe Jill Biden after they use the 25th.

        That might be the pinnacle of Progjection. “Trump will never leave office voluntarily!”

      • Gadfly

        No way on this planet do the Dems let the spectacle of a forced removal go forward.

        Nor would the Reps, if they were smart, allow the spectacle of a forced removal to go forward. It is in the Rs interest to keep a doddering Joe as the face of the Democratic party. They can always claim he’s no worse today than he was when elected, so if he was fine for the party and the people then he should be fine now.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      They’ll make him an offer he can’t refuse and he’ll resign with a nice juicy pardon following soon after.

      • R C Dean

        They’ll make him Jill an offer he she can’t refuse

    • KSuellington

      I got a cool hundred with my brother on Ballgag Joe dropping out anytime in the next two years. I think my bet is looking good.

      • TARDis

        Is he up for 10:1 in the next 6 months?

      • KSuellington

        Hehheh. He is an inveterate gambler but I don’t think even he would bite with those odds.

      • Threedoor

        He’s dead within 18 months of the election.

    • J. Frank Parnell

      November is my prediction, after he fixes all the damage done by the Trump admin by getting rid of Coronavirus, getting us back into the Paris Climate Accords, restarting the Iran deal, getting more troops into Syria to help defend muh Kurds, etc. Once we’re all back on track, he’ll heroically hand the reigns over to Kamala so he can spend his final years with his family – a well-earned rest after a lifetime of public service.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        Why should he have to defend the Kurds? Aren’t they all dead by now?

      • Pope Jimbo

        The Kurds rejected Net Neutrality?

    • Chipwooder

      Yep. If they actually had any interest in Biden being president, this would be just as hush-hush as it was before the election. He won’t last a year.

    • LJW

      Kamala selects Hillary as her her VP then steps down. The prophecy is coming true!

  43. Jarflax

    Speaking of crying more, I’m sure many of you will be clutching pearls over some aspect or another of this, which I have never understood but go ahead and go on.

    Not clutching pearls, but the biggest regret of my life is staying single and not having children and I doubt I am alone in this. We make our choices and we pay the price and reap the rewards, but I think those who chose less immediate life freedom in favor of a family likely end up happier on average than thos eof us who chose more immediate life freedom and no family. Real happiness comes from meaning in your life and those of us who eschew the boring everyday path to meaning seldom actually do all the cool things we thought we would do instead.

    • R C Dean

      I feel ya, Jar. No Dean spawn, and there are times I regret it. Neither of the Mrs. Deans wanted to have kids, and it wasn’t a high enough priority for me to marry someone who did.

      On the plus side, though, Santa can afford to bring me stuff like this, which arrived yesterday. No idea how he got it down the chimney.

      • TARDis

        Do you have a hairless cat and a monocle? That would make a great photo.

      • R C Dean

        No cat. Two pit bulls, though.

      • TARDis

        That’ll work. Each side of the chair. Black rifle in the background. Maybe an orphan stealing warmth from the fireplace. Bonus if there is some asscheek and bit of leg from a handmaiden just off to the side.

    • KSuellington

      That’s something I have to remind myself of from time to time as the actual raising part of raising three young boys can be highly stressful and suck big time some days. This year hasn’t made that easier. But the rewards when they come (even the little tiny ones) are great. Sometimes when my energy wanes, I wish I started with the kids earlier, but I am glad I got to live, work and travel around the world before becoming a parent.

      • Pope Jimbo

        One of my goto moves after a rough day of being a dad was to watch some old home movies.

        One size doesn’t fit all and I am totes jealous of DINKs that I know some days, but watching the rug rats play “hot lava” on old video keeps me from strangling them in their sleep.

  44. Semi-Spartan Dad

    This story is interesting. A forensic audit of Dominion machines was done in Antrim County, Michigan. There are claims the audit showed the Dominion machines flipped 6k votes from Trump to Biden. I’d like to see the evidence of the audit and weigh it against the claim. Can’t do that though because the Secretary of State got a judge to put a gag order on releasing the results of the audit.

    It’s bizarre that the Michigan Secretary of State would get a judge to issue a gag order on releasing the results if the forensic audit came out clean. Kind of like cases every officer in a group coincidentally turns off their body cameras right before a shoot.

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/10/judge-gives-benson-ok-intervene-antrim-county-election-case/3880872001/

    • Gadfly

      I mean, a gag order in this climate pretty much assures us what the results were. If the audit showed everything was on the up and up, that would be front page news. That it’s being quashed means it’s almost guaranteed that the audit showed irregularities.

    • Urthona

      that’s some bullshit right there

    • The Hyperbole

      What am I missing the article you linked to had no mention of a gag order.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        A Northern Michigan judge granted Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson permission to intervene in a case questioning results in Antrim County and the security of tabulators used there on Nov. 3.

        Judge Kevin Elsenheimer ruled Thursday that Attorney General Dana Nessel’s office could intervene on behalf of Benson, who had argued she had supervisory control over the Antrim County clerk, had an interest in any audit discussions the case may raise and was party to the county’s contract with Dominion Voting Systems.

        The Secretary of State’s office is concerned particularly with forensic imaging performed on Antrim County’s 22 Dominion tabulators earlier this week by a Village of Central Lake resident and Allied Security Operations Group, said Assistant Attorney General Heather Meingast.

        “We’d like to know more about what was obtained, what the intent is for the use of the images obtained,” Meingast said, noting the disclosure of some elements of the tabulators could compromise their security in future elections.

        The “intervention” is the gag order. The Secretary of State needs to review the audit results before release because “disclosure of some elements of the tabulators could compromise their security in future elections”.

  45. Pope Jimbo

    The new normal is just like the old normal. Minnesoda urban planners want input on where to build the three next fast transit lines

    Downtown Minneapolis is currently between 60% and 80% vacant due to the Rona. If you talk to some of the people invested in commercial real estate, they are already planning on how they are going to work the legislature for a bail out because they don’t think big office towers will ever recover.

    But we are not only moving ahead with our $1B light rail project, we are going to start the process of adding more mass transit. Because if you lose money on one transit line, the secret is to add more money losers and make it up on volume?

    Even as crews are only starting to dig their way under the Crosstown Highway to build a tunnel for Southwest Light Rail trains, transit planners already have more than five other major transit lines in the pipeline that are expected to cost about $700 million.

      • Gustave Lytton

        This after WA and OR blew close to $1M for a “study” recommending a bullet train between Portland and Vancouver (BC).

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Buses are much more flexible and can quickly be rerouted to react to demand, but they are not nearly as sexy as rail.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I think that the “sexiness” is all related to how much more $$ you can funnel to your cronies.

        Buses run on regular roads, trains run on special tracks that need to be built.
        Buses pull up to the curb, trains need to have a special station built for them.

      • limey

        Yeah. New rail = jObS!!1 Print the money and pay the people. If we build it, they will come, but it doesn’t matter if they don’t because we made jobs which paid people, or something.

      • limey

        Light rail is Bush league. $2tn gaijin Shinkansen pipe dreams are where it’s at.

      • commodious spittoon

        The new hotness is hyperloops. Hyperloops everywhere!

    • KOVIDKristen

      DC’s Metro is redoing its headquarters. Despite saying it wants to close 9 stations and suspend weekend service because nobody rides the fuckin thing anymore.

      • Tulip

        It has 4 stories of ….parking. HA HA HA

  46. creech

    Breaking News – SCOTUS has rejected the Texas et al lawsuit – Texas demonstrated no harm in the operation of other states’ election laws.

    • limey

      Where is my shocked face when I need it? Oh, never mind.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      It’s the end then, all hail soon to be President Harris and the packed Supreme Court.

    • Suthenboy

      Idiots. It is gonna come to blows.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Yep or a very ugly national divorce at the least. Not even hearing the case was an enormous mistake.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Did you really think chickenshit Roberts was going to get involved?

        I’d love to hear the words coming from Thomas’s and Alito’s offices rights now.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Did I think he’d get involved in a meaningful and earnest way? No, but just rejecting the case out of hand is a slap in the face to tens of millions of people even if the case was a long shot. Hear it out, rule against it, and give the election a halfassed air of legitimacy at least for fuck’s sake.

      • westernsloper

        Roberts? How about the three giant constitutionally noggined appointments Trump made? The country is gone. This is some kinda bullshit when the SC just declared a handful of counties in a handful of states can ignore their own fucking states constitutions and rig an election. I am actually kind of ok with it because to me I see the whole thing as illegitimate now. I just need a way to figure out how to stop paying taxes. Fuckers take it out of my check. This decision to not take that case is Dred Scott all over again. History does repeat itself.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I actually look forward to the three Trump appointments being reduced to irrelevancy on the new 21 justice Supreme Court. Fuck ‘em…

      • Jarflax

        National divorce is not a possibility. That ship sailed in July, 1863 in Pennsylvania. We are either about to have a civil war or about to slide into one party rule. Both options suck.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I hear you but I think a (mostly) peaceful national divorce can actually be swung. Hell, some of the left states have been selectively been ignoring federal law for quite a while now. Now that the red states think the system’s bullshit they can do that with a clear conscience and secession is only a bit away from that. Frankly, I don’t think the current day politicos have the huevos to impose their will. This ain’t 1864 and the days of Sherman.

      • Threedoor

        I’m honestly good with both of those. Simultaneously.

  47. The Late P Brooks

    Head ’em up, move ’em out

    Oracle is the latest tech company to move its headquarters out of California. The company said on Friday it’s moving its headquarters from the Silicon Valley to Austin, Texas.

    ——-

    The coronavirus pandemic has given a number of tech companies and prominent Silicon Valley figures an excuse to exit California. Hewlett Packard Enterprise announced earlier this month that it will relocate its headquarters from San Jose, California, to Houston, Texas. Data analytics software company Palantir Technologies also moved its headquarters to Denver, Colorado from Palo Alto, California, earlier this year.

    Moving to Austin won’t be much of a culture shock.

    Have they gotten a statement from Dee Dee Meyers?

    • Pope Jimbo

      I will be so happy when the only company left in San Fran is SalesForce. They deserve each other.

    • commodious spittoon

      Plague ships.

  48. Hyperion

    Cyberpunk?

    Worst experience downloading and updating a game in the history of Steam.

    Jeebus. So, the game is 60GB. OK. That should take me with my internet speed to take about 2-3 hours. Nope, it took 10 hours, seriously. OK, the severs were being swamped.

    OK. So an update finally came out today. It’s 1.36G. So it downloads that in 15 minutes and then says unpacking and it stops at 1.36G and that’s it. Now, I’ll just say, I have more than 500GB free on the installation drive and more than 800GB on the OS drive. So, WTF? I just gave up and deleted the game, losing bout 4 hours of gameplay and am re-installing the game.

    So far my opinion of the game is massive POS. Poor optimization. WTF is wrong with their severs connecting to Steam? The game looks dated ever on max graphics settings. I’m not impressed.

    • commodious spittoon

      You spurned GameStop, and now in your darkest hour, where do you turn?

      • Hyperion

        What’s a Gamestop? Does that go behind a door?

      • commodious spittoon

        I didn’t read carefully and thought you never got the game downloaded and running. NEVER MIND.

      • Hyperion

        And proud of it.

      • TARDis

        You should be. Better than being a dork.

    • LJW

      I was enjoying it through the long intro. Graphics aren’t amazing but good enough. Once I realized the direction of the main story I lost interest in it. When I jump back on I’m gonna focus on side missions.

      • Hyperion

        ” Graphics aren’t amazing”

        The environments are good and the artwork is great, but it often looks dated.

        What happens when you take 8 years to develop a game, looks like 2012.

    • Hyperion

      And yet the ‘journalists’ will continue to support them 100% no matter how much they have to lie. Can we say ‘cucks’? yes, we can!

      • Gustave Lytton

        Tracy said they have prompted him to think strategically about whether and how he’ll continue to document the events, which center on concerns about gentrification and the rights of Black and Indigenous residents of majority white Portland.

        Indeed.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Morons, morons everywhere

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Translation: I don’t want to get my skull kicked in. Upon further reflection maybe I need to write a story about that huge zucchini that local lady and her rotary club managed to grow.

    • LJW

      Not familiar with oregon law but since the police won’t do anything, can the owner take action and physically remove them?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Lol

      • commodious spittoon

        They can. And they’ll be rotting in prison for the rest of their lives.

      • Gustave Lytton

        The owner is a developer that apparently doesn’t want anything to do with this tar baby now. He’s offering to sell it back to the family.

  49. Lackadaisical

    “Speaking of crying more, I’m sure many of you will be clutching pearls over some aspect or another of this, which I have never understood but go ahead and go on.”

    I’ll bite.

    It is like watching someone let a beautiful garden go fallow, at least, when it is people I like and think would make the world a better place. They’re squandering something of beauty and value to the world, just like squandering a fortune by not investing in the future.

    It is of course their own choice, but it’s still sad to see.

  50. Count Potato

    “Congratulations, America! trumpers lost. Scotus kicked them to the curb. Again. Packing the court didn’t beat justice. My guess is the retrumplicans dont quit…because this was never about loyalty or law…it is abt fealty and cowardice. Make them Do their job!”

    https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/1337548950879035397

    CWAA

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      His very comment is a confirmation Trump’s right about the press and he’s too stupid to realize it. Fredo couldn’t be a more apt moniker.

  51. westernsloper

    That non profit work sure looks profitable if you are in the right non profit quadrant.

    Comment on the first link: NERDS!

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Well facts do have a left wing bias.
      *laughs condescendingly*

  52. Threedoor

    Is Keanu Johnny Silverhand?

    • Cy

      “I got a SOCOM Scout, twenty extra mags
      And a couple severed heads in my bug out bag”

      • Threedoor

        I have 21 of those things.

    • EvilSheldon

      Not to put too fine a point on it, but holy fucknuts…

    • Threedoor

      That’s totally my speed.