In light of the open siege warfare on democracy, and the American way of life, I decided to do what I try to do and talk about something  else.

I get the feeling this will be difficult to do for a few weeks, so I am going to outline a libertarian philosopher until prominent members of the federal government are bound by their feet and lowered headfirst into a vat of boiling oil like the old George Carlin bit, or…until I run out of philosophers. Which puts me somewhere in February.

This is my review Big Sky Brewing Moose Drool Brown Ale:

Lets start with, as they say, the grandaddy of them all:  Frederic Bastiat.

Born in southern France in the early 19th century, Bastiat was a classical economist, Freemason, and eventually elected to the French National Assembly.  His father was a prominent businessman in his hometown and purchased his estate from the Marquis de Poyanne during the French Revolution. He died at the age of 49 of tuberculosis and apparently muttered to those closest to him the phrase “the truth” as his last words.

The Law, is the work he is best known for.  It would be sitting on my bookshelf next to my mostly unread copy of Atlas Shrugged but my younger brother hasn’t given it back to me yet.  His signature work is in part a treatise on the proper application of government and his poking fun at various politicians of the day.

The big takeaways from this book is it is here the idea all government action comes only through the use of force.

Its mission is to prevent the rights of one from interfering with those of another, in any one of these things. Law, because it has force for its necessary sanction, can only have the domain of force, which is justice.

“Economic stimulus”, France ca. 1850

He also goes into pointing out logical fallacies of his opponents.  A well known example was against protectionist worker unions.  In his example he explains candlemakers could in theory petition the government to block out the sun in order to bolster their industry.

This book says nothing about broken windows, he introduces humanity to the broken window fallacy in another work, That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen.  A brief explanation can be found here.  This is not to be confused with the “broken window theory”, which a garden gnome attempts to explain here.  We can probably link the two with the destruction of property having dubious benefits and why Target chose to shut down stores rather than repair.  Are we getting too far in the weeds to suggest the glazier won’t be rich if enough shop owners decide Detroit sucks and just move to Tampa?

Whatever, I assume you skipped ahead.  So here is the short version:

This beer is proof I can survive in Montana.  It was available while I lived in Colorado, but until recently I could not find it in Arizona.  Apparently, shopping at Basha’s like a boomer that insists on supporting only local business may be a depressing sight but it did have this one benefit for me that day.  Its heavy malts and nutty finish is every bit as good as I remember. Big Sky Brewing Moose Drool Brown Ale:  3.8/5

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273 Comments

  1. DEG

    Are we getting too far in the weeds to suggest the glazier won’t be rich if enough shop owners decide Detroit sucks and just move to Tampa?

    Easy-peasy. Just build a wall around Detroit so the shop owners can’t move.

    The beer sounds good.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Maybe we can do a/b testing. Wall up half of Detroit and have one half have free markets and one half have socialism and see what side gets closer to utopia.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        “But the differential on income equality is so much better on the socialist side’”

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Didn’t they try that with Berlin?

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        They didn’t try real socialism. That messed up the results of the test.

  2. The Late P Brooks

    Moose drool sux.

    • Cy

      I feel like it was ahead of it’s time.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Them sounds like fightin words.

    • Nephilium

      Back when I was a regular lurker on homebrewtalk’s forums Moose Drool was one of the most requested clone recipes by far.

      • Cowboy

        Back when I homebrewed regularly, the moose drool clone I made was always the quickest floated kegs. Damn stuff always gave me a headache, though.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      It sounds good to me,

  3. The Late P Brooks

    Bastiat does not sux.

  4. KSuellington

    My favorite beer from a Montana brewer is Cold Smoke from Kettlehouse in Missoula. Damn, that stuff is tasty.

  5. westernsloper

    MS finally reviews a beer I have seen on the shelves. My copy of The Law sits on my kindle next to Cooked and The Hockey Stick Illusion. Now that I think about it, the fact I don’t own that in dead tree form is a bit disgraceful.

    • Muzzled Woodchipper

      About a year ago I replaced several hundred dead tree books on my shelf with guitar pedals. It was a good move.

    • Mojeaux

      I buy hard back books of ebooks I love. They are all in storage right now and I miss looking at them.

  6. Mojeaux

    Tangentially …

    I really liked a little fantasy book set in Detroit where it’s a capitalistic (portrayed affectionately) mecca. Clearly the author loves Detroit and loves capitalism. I really liked it.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JWFDM2F

    • mexican sharpshooter

      *clicks*

      Its not Robocop.

      • blackjack

        Fun fact: I worked on the SUX 6000. Used to drive one down to 7-11 for snacks sometimes. Got gypped out of my wages too.

    • robodruid

      Thank you for that recommendation. I did enjoy reading the three books. It was a good break while on vacation.
      I would think that dragons would be more like “shadowrun dragons”
      & I’m really confused how that city would do water and wastewater pipes.
      But a great read.

      • DEG

        Shadowrun dragons?

        Somewhere I still have my ancient Shadowrun books. I should take a look at them because I can’t remember what dragons where like in that game.

  7. creech

    While drowning our sorrows in a mug of beer, let’s look on the bright side: Hillary Clinton did not get to name three Supreme Court Justices. Prosit!

    • Cy

      But… what if she gets named a SCJ?

      • Fatty Bolger

        John Roberts “commits suicide” and Hillary is appointed Chief Justice?

    • kbolino

      And the oldest (by a decade) at 82 is Breyer. Biden/Harris are not likely to get any SC appointments in the next 4 years.

      • kbolino

        (and if they do, it won’t change the makeup of the court)

      • hayeksplosives

        Unless they add 6 seats to the court, that is.

      • DEG

        Six??! Only Six?

        Gotta think big.

        60.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        HE, I took your advice and got some Vitamin D3, which prompted me to buy my Old Man energy drinks, and feed myself better, Thanks!

      • hayeksplosives

        Great! Glad it’s helping.

      • rhywun

        I expect the campaign to oust Thomas to begin any day now. ?

      • Old Man With Candy

        I think he’s the oldest and my prediction for Next To Go.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        About 72-73

        Breyer is the oldest by far and the most dimwitted, even in his heyday.

      • DEG

        It depends. What does his wife feed him?

        In what other corner of America does someone of such achievement face withering contempt from people who look like him and grew up like him? “I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early, like many black men do, of heart disease,” Julianne Malveaux, the liberal commentator, once cracked on a talk show.

      • DEG

        I know enough French that the Quebecois almost always switch to English when I greet them.

        Malveaux, according to her wiki page, has appeared on CNN. It doesn’t look like she has worked for CNN.

        She seems nice part deux:

        On October 22, 1994, on Northwest Airlines Flight 206 from Detroit to Washington, Malveaux swore at a child who accidentally bumped her while she was asleep in her seat, then at a flight attendant who accidentally sprayed her with a can of soda when it opened. When another flight attendant asked her to put away her laptop before the plane landed, she grabbed the woman’s arm. As a result of this she was arrested on landing and charged with assault;[4] she was sentenced to probation.

  8. Gustave Lytton

    I’m sick of cans. Especially cans with shitty labels. Make glass bottles great again.

    • Mojeaux

      That is one ugly label. Repulsive, even.

    • Nephilium

      As long as aluminum can come into the country and be recycled, cans will be here to stay. Lighter, less breakage, no light in, less oxygen in, cheaper to fill (lines are more expensive to set up), mobile canning lines, stackable on the shelves, and less “other” packaging (no cardboard sleeves needed).

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’m sure it is. But like excessive hops, it’s a shitty development and there’s no need to accept it.

        Craft beer, like many things, peaked in the mid to late 90’s and has been going downhill ever since. The selection at the grocery store is worse than its ever been and many fine beers are now gone. But hey, I can drink fermented apple juice and fizzy flavored alcohol so golden age.

      • Nephilium

        I will strongly disagree that the peak was the mid to late 90’s. That was about the time of the first big bust and shake out. I have a feeling that the ‘vid is going to cause another one to happen in the next 12-18 months. The can is superior, as the only way you’re going to taste metal in a modern can is if you’re drinking out of it. Your beer should be poured into a glass (full disclosure: I do not always pour my beer into a glass).

      • Gustave Lytton

        Cans, particularly the Kleenex wall US type, are shitty. A whole generation has been brainwashed into thinking that soda and now beer should come that way.

      • RBS

        “Craft beer, like many things, peaked in the mid to late 90’s and has been going downhill ever since. The selection at the grocery store is worse than its ever been and many fine beers are now gone. But hey, I can drink fermented apple juice and fizzy flavored alcohol so golden age.”

        Ok Boomer.

      • rhywun

        I prefer cans. Mostly because I have to lug home anything I buy from the store myself.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      that’s why we have Ale Glasses,

    • mexican sharpshooter

      This man speaks the truth. You can’t create a makeshift weapon by breaking a can.

      • Nephilium

        No, you have to either fold it down, or rip/cut it (or drop a couple full ones in a bag). A more elegant weapon for a more elegant time.

      • Viking1865

        1. There are no dangerous weapons, only dangerous people.

        2. No true libertarian would ever be in a situation where he was forced to fashion a weapon from a soda can. In a free state one should never be more than five seconds from a sidearm, and three minutes from a long gun. In a slave state, one should have some form of innocuous but useful tools close at hand.

      • Mojeaux

        Eyeballs do not like forks and table knives.

      • Tres Cool

        I keep an eye out for you!

      • J. Frank Parnell

        You can make a makeshift pipe, though.

  9. dbleagle

    I concur that Moose Drool is a fine beer. From a can? I don’t know about that though. Outside of MT and ID, it is easily found in WA and OR and I even purchased some in Minnesoda from their crappy alcohol establishment.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      From a can?

      They do that in Europe all the time.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Beats light-struck (e.g., Corona bottles).

    • Gustave Lytton

      I remember when Moose Drool was sold in aluminum bottles.

  10. dbleagle

    Attention, Attention. This is a COLD Weather warning. A burst of air from the north is expected to drop our lows to 66 Go to the Moon Degrees by Monday morning. That is all.

    • westernsloper

      Burrrrrr. I am not complaining we are having very warm weather for the time of year with upper 40’s. The sun is shining and what little snow that is left is melting. Ya, sure, the drought cycle continues but that is what cycles do and I am ok with it.

  11. westernsloper

    So, if you cook hash browns in too much butter and add way too much cheese, do they become keto? Asking for a friend.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Needs sour cream for the magic chemistry.

      • westernsloper

        I don’t have sour cream. Only eggs and sausage.

      • rhywun

        Just ate fried potatoes, eggs, and (German) sausage.

        Breakfast of champions.

      • westernsloper

        ?

      • l0b0t

        I just took the suggestion of the lady at the counter at the Polish grocery. She gave me some layered dish of chicken breast, tomato, onion, and both a semi-soft and a harder type of cheese. HOLY MACKEREL! It was delicious. I’ll have to go back but I was overwhelmed by the sausage selection – they had veal, pork, or beef franks, or specific blends of all three.

      • DEG

        That sounds delicious.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      if Keto is good, then yes, sounds tasty!

    • Suthenboy

      50/50 bacon grease and butter. western is right about sour cream despite him being wildly wrong on cream and carbonara.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        This is the sad thing about going to the camps. Great cooks and there won’t be any decent food or drinks.

      • Gdragon

        Don’t be pessimistic, you don’t even know who you’re going to be sharing a cell with yet and they might be very tasty 😉

      • Suthenboy

        I don’t know how I screwed that comment up
        typing one fingered, two drinks in before one pm?

      • westernsloper

        Don’t make me dig up my carbonara pizza recipe.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      If you fasted for the rest of the day… (not kidding)

  12. hayeksplosives

    https://babylonbee.com/news/least-masculine-society-in-human-history-decides-masculinity-is-a-growing-threat?utm_content=buffer0f69c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer&fbclid=IwAR09WoEAYMA9990Xh_au9qeWcYEvywgHADKXFsvRIvZZjDKcLfv-gz6JyIw

    Babylon Bee ? on Toxic Masculinity: Least Masculine Society In Human History Decides Masculinity Is A Growing Threat

    As society becomes increasingly dominated by nerds, hipsters, and computer programmers, people have fixated on what they think is our biggest problem: masculinity.

    “It’s just toxic and causes nothing but problems,” said Elisha Mcewen, a vegan activist and no threat whatsoever to spiders or tight jar lids. “I was sharing my feelings on masculinity with other men in my drum circle, and we all agreed that if we ever encountered masculinity, we would run far away.”

    • westernsloper

      In my mind, a Drum circle is a table of old guys drinking coffee sharing a tin of tobacco as they smoke hand rolled cigarettes and pipes while they bitch about the government. I fear I might not be woke.

      • DEG

        I fear I might not be woke.

        I’m going to go out on a limb here and say, you’re right.

  13. Yusef drives a Kia

    Drink local, Short’s Brewing Soft parade Fruited Ale, 7.5% Abv
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/qL33mfbgE4m1UDSb8
    Black
    Blue
    Straw
    and Raspberries, hope it tastes good,

    • Nephilium

      Figured it was Soft Parade. Short’s is part of Lagunitas, which is part of Heineken. They sold right after they started to distribute to states other then Michigan (their slogan was still Michigan Only, Michigan Always during those times).

      Somewhat related, from rumblings I’ve read online, it sounds as if Boston Beer Company (Sam Adams, Twisted Tea, Traveler Shandy, Truly seltzer, Angry Orchard, and a couple others I’m sure I’m missing) may have tipped out of the Craft Beer definition of the Brewer’s Association based on their annual report.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        you also know what beers I like, this one intrigued me, it’s nothing special, not very fruity at all,

    • ElspethFlashman

      It _is_ good. It seems to have a higher ABV when it’s on tap.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      How many cycles?, she asked wearily.

      • Chafed

        That question zipz past 99% of reporters.

  14. Toxteth O'Grady

    +1 finer clay

    *wonders if FINR CLA license plate is taken (CLÉ?)

  15. Animal

    OK, now we’re really fucked. Forget the ‘rona. Forget the takeover by socialists. Hell, forget the Yellowstone supervolcano or killer asteroids. Because now electric eels are hunting in packs.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Animal I hope you were serious, my beard looks very different now, actually pretty cool TBH,

      • Animal

        I was – unfortunately Mrs. Animal was even more serious. My beard remains unchanged.

        I think it would be pretty cool, too, but our couch isn’t all that comfortable for sleeping.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I’m sure it wouldn’t last Long with Wendy either,
        Happy Wife,
        Happy Life,

      • Animal

        Happy Wife,
        Happy Life,

        Truer words were never spoken.

    • Master JaimeRoberto (royal we/us)

      That’s pretty shocking.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Keep the puns to yourself, it’s a slippery slope leading to bad jokes.

      • Animal

        Anode you would say that.

      • Animal

        Yeah, they’re really amping it up. I’m sure this will generate discussion.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Just be sure to keep the discussion grounded.

      • Animal

        Yeah, some folks may have a short fuse.

      • Cy

        A lot of the concepts are very slippery to grasp.

      • Gender Traitor

        Enough! No more, eh?

      • C. Anacreon

        Tell us how you really eel about it.

    • Ted S.

      I like eels,
      Except as meals.
      And the way they feels.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Ogden Nash is underquoted.

      • C. Anacreon

        Not that way in Ogden, Utah.

  16. Spudalicious

    Moose Drool is good stuff.

    • slumbrew

      I watched that live last night – amazing boats. 30+ knots out of ~ 8 knots wind.

      I’d love to see them in a good breeze.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of Montana beers lost in the mists of time… I used to drink a lot of Black Dog, when I was working in Albuquerque (go figger). Haven’t seen it in forever.

    • westernsloper

      Never heard of Black Dog. I did, however, drink boat loads of Black Label. It was the same price point as Schaefer back in the day.

  18. Cy

    Shiner: Candied Pecan Porter – 3.8/5

    It was pretty decent. I was pleasantly surprised the ‘candied’ part was a small hint and not over bearing. It’s a good balance between budget and taste and a nice seasonal. I’ll be buying more.

    Capriccio Bubbly Watermelon Sangria – 0.7/5

    It was fucking disgusting. 14.9% ABV. I really didn’t like the first swig. I figured maybe it was just the vodka taste was too strong so I blended it with some Simply Lemonade… it was worse. I did suck it up and finish the bottle though. I drink to not be sober and 14.9% ABV is not something I let go to waste!

    • Cy

      I also grabbed a sixer of Maguires Draught Stout, another good bang for your buck. I’d say it’s a solid 3/5.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    There was another really good one, from a brewer in Helena, as I recall. I think it was called Steamboat Lager. They probably dropped it so they could make more shitty IPA.

  20. The Late P Brooks

    Ogden Nash is underquoted.

    Absolutely. Also, Thurber.

    • Cy

      From the wiki on Ogden:

      To keep your marriage brimming, With love in the loving cup, Whenever you’re wrong, admit it; Whenever you’re right, shut up.

  21. Rebel Scum

    RT
    @RT_com

    Russia state-affiliated media
    ⚡️ Germany confirms to RT it’s building a CAMP for COVID-dissidents

    It’s deemed it necessary to threaten quarantine violators with a stint in Covid jail. The facility will be based in Dresden.

    Germany has such a good history with camps.

    • Cy

      Everybody like sitting around the fire singing kumbai and strumming a guitar! Just think of the marshmallows! Those smores will be premium German chocolate! I do find it odd how their camp fires always seem to put off so much ash.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Probably a jail specifically for people who pop positive on a Covid test but refuse to isolate or break quarrantine with a but of rhetorical spin thrown in but close enough. When it comes to anything involving camps or prisons the Russians are entitled by experience to be wary.

    • blackjack

      Now Biden can say he got at least 25,000 people to attend his inauguration. Beats the hell out of the 10 cars his campaign rallies drew. Honk, honk!

  22. Rebel Scum

    Exactly. Unity and healing.

    “[W]e should take note of the language that the left is using — chemical warfare, insurrection, domestic terrorism,” he said. “That’s not by accident, Sean. There are exquisite authorities in our national laws that allow our government to do things to terrorists that we would never allow against our own people. But in the incoming Biden administration, they want to use national security authorities against MAGA. They’re targeting Mo Brooks, Paul Gosar, Andy Biggs, Louie Gohmert, Madison Cawthorn and myself because we had the nerve to actually stand up and point out the need for election integrity.”

    “And we also pointed out their hypocrisy, because for all of the criticism that they have leveled against Donald Trump unfairly, they were the cheerleaders, fundraisers and apologists for the people who burned our cities, attacked our police and were on offense against the very notion of America for months this summer,” Gaetz continued. “They don’t want to account for that. Joe Biden doesn’t want to answer for it. Certainly, Kamala Harris doesn’t. And so, they are going to go after the president and his allies and they’re going to use national security authorities that you should never use against our fellow Americans.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Thats just conspiracy theories and proves we must silence these folks.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      l’m not sure if he’s an oppurtunist or a true believer but he’s dead on here. Short of someone like McVeigh, and maybe not even him (I’m open to discussion), this is incredibly dangerous and should not be done. Actually ever, I’ve convinced myself, not even with Timothy.

      • Drake

        Putting on Alex Jones hat – they’ll make something happen whenever they need an excuse for more power. A mass shooting, a covid spike, whatever.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        We’re one incident away from the left and the country club right demanding Biden implement the Insurrection Act and the accelerationist nutcases on both sides are well aware. I hope to God nothing happens but we’ll see.

      • Viking1865

        McVeigh was arrested driving away from OKC with no plates on his car. He was carrying a pistol without a permit, and thats what he was arrested for. The thing with McVeigh, as horrible a crime as that was, is that it only happened because of the governments crime at Waco. It’s a quintessential example of blowback.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Odds of the Waco and OKC bombing being seen in the same light as the compromise of 1850 and Bloody Kansas by future historians?

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        Less than zero.

        No bit of (academic) history will remark that McVeigh was a reaction to government wantonly murdering people at Waco (just a year after it wantonly murdered 1/2 a family at Ruby Ridge).

        It’ll be because he’s an eViL rIGhT wInG tErRoRiSt!

    • Suthenboy

      did I hear that no one will be allowed to the inauguration? is the ‘establishment’ completely isolating themselves away from the deplorables?

      • Rebel Scum

        Biden will be a president for all Americans*. ///Unity ///Healing ///Reconciliation

        *except the deplorable MAGAts, of course.

      • Drake

        The most popular President ever elected by an enormous margin according to the vote totals. He needs 30,000 troops and an empty capital to protect him from his adoring fans.

      • Viking1865

        I think they said they were allow a couple hundred protesters inside the Green Zone (and yes, they are officially calling it that.) but the rest would just be official Washington types.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      They’re absofuckinglutely going to use that authority and the GOP is going to say nothing because they want the usurpers gone.

      This does not end well.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        The GOP are just Dems that pretend to have morals with a handful of exceptions and yes, we’re in trouble.

  23. Raven Nation

    There used to be a sports bar here (long ways from Montana) that had Big Sky beers. I was partial to Trout Slayer, although it looks like they no longer brew that one.

  24. Rebel Scum

    Speaking of conspiracy theories, Alex Jones had someone on squawking about how events unfolding are part of the eternal struggle between good and evil as it pertains to Christianity. Politicians with soulless eyes, such as Nancy Pelosi, are demons working to undo humanity. Idk. I kind of like the alien/lizard-person theory.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      That’s actually a sort of coping mechanism, it’s distressing to think that many maybe most people are capable of being Pelosi or worse given the right oppurtunities and incentives.

    • Cy

      Commies have been around for a while now. They’re human. They’re extremely destructive and generally miserable human beings. They make good ditch filler.

    • Suthenboy

      I’m going with lizard people

    • Drake

      In a same world she’d just be an old bar floozy nobody listened to.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Encouraging news, for a change

    Montana Attorney General Austin Knudsen ordered Thursday that the Gallatin County attorney dismiss a lawsuit against Rocking R Bar for violating a 10 p.m. closing time ordered by the county health board to stem the spread of the coronavirus.

    But County Attorney Marty Lambert fired back, rejecting the order and saying that Knudsen didn’t haven’t any say in the matter because the state isn’t a party in the case.

    Knudsen directed Lambert to dismiss the case against the bar, according to a news release on Thursday. He said the 10 p.m. closing time “defies commonsense” and is “devastating to Montana workers and small businesses.”

    “Our action today is a clear message that we need to safely reopen our economy and will not allow overzealous local governments to hold Montana businesses and their employees hostage,” Knudsen said in the news release.

    The Gallatin City-County Board of Health and Health Officer Matt Kelley sued Rocking R Bar after it remained open past 10 p.m. on several occasions despite a warning that it was in violation of the health rules. Rocking R Bar argued that the closing time was arbitrary and unlawful to enforce.

    In December, a Gallatin County judge granted the county a preliminary injunction against the bar, ordering it to comply with the health rule until March.

    Kelley ought to be swinging from a lamppost.

    SCIENCE means you don’t need evidence when you can just make shit up.

  26. Rebel Scum

    Arrest this seditious, insurrectionist, terrorist.

    Paul said, “Well, the thing is Laura, you know government. They either underreact or overreact. So, I think there was too little security obviously last week, and now we’re going to become a militarized zone. And they’re checking congressmen as they come in to see if they have a sharp pencil or a sharp pen. So, it’s gotten ridiculous. And so, we’ll see what happens, and whether it’s permanent. But most people who write about civil liberties say that in times of war, or in times of stress, or in times of crisis, you lose your civil liberties very quickly. But it’s very difficult to get them back. Because government, once it grows large, never wants to give up on this. But yes, we have to resist this. And we have to have security, obviously. But I think living in a wartime state with…we have troops in the Capitol. They’re staying in the Capitol. They’re platooning and camping in the Capitol. So, I understand, that last week, we weren’t prepared and that was a real problem, and I regret everything that happened last week with that. But going forward, this week, I think we — there’s a danger of overreacting.”

    “People are dying and you want your rights. *scoff*” – Don Lemon

  27. Q Continuum

    My wife likes to use sex to get me to do chores around the house. That’s at least what the plumber tells me.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    did I hear that no one will be allowed to the inauguration? is the ‘establishment’ completely isolating themselves away from the deplorables?

    The Imperial Guard will be there.

  29. Scruffy Nerfherder

    The fringe news on Youtube is running with a story that Iran was sheltering bin Laden, they set up a decoy, Seal Team 6 went in and killed the decoy, dumped the evidence at sea, and Obama giving Iran $150B to keep their traps shut about it.

    Then something about Benghazi being left out to dry because they were smuggling Stingers to Syria thru there.It’s

    And there’s documents!

    It’s in the way, way, waaaaaaayyyyyy too good to be true category of news. I had to respond to the guy who sent it to me with a “yeahhhhh, righhhhhhhht….”

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      The Iran stuff is nonsense, the Stingers to Syria probably has a kernel of truth but replace “Stingers” with “small arms.” We were almost certainly funneling arms out of the recently “won” Libyan conflict to the Syrian conflict via Turkey and the embassy or consulate or whatever was likely involved.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        My concern is that the media has done such a shitty job of reporting objectively that the conspiracy theories have fertile ground with which to work.

        Same goes for all the insurrectionist shit-talk in the media. It’s almost guaranteeing another incident.

      • blackjack

        What scares me is the amount of people who lapped up all the bullshit they spew. Two guys at work went into a long dissertation about how the cops treated the capitol rioters with kid gloves, yet they would have wholesale slaughtered BLM if it were them rioting. They were fervently asserting this, with no room for doubt. It’s like meeting Rachel Maddow in person. Fucking scary.

  30. Rebel Scum

    Unity. Healing. Etc.

    “For the last 20 years our biggest concern was international terrorism — ISIS, Al Qaeda,” Bratton said in a Friday evening interview. “Now it’s here and it’s us, and it’s the citizens of the United States, some of whom are rebelling against everything we thought we believed in for the last 300 to 400 years.”

    Former Homeland Security Department counterterrorism official, Nate Snyder, echoed Bratton’s sentiments on “The News with Shepard Smith.”

    “If you’re talking about the lethality of the threat, domestic terrorism — meaning violent white supremacists, neo-Nazis, sovereign citizens, militia movements — have been the most lethal threat in these past ten years compared to Al Qaeda and ISIS- inspired threats,” Snyder said.

    Get with the program or you are an enemy of the state.

    • Plinker762

      400 years? So they mean puritanism?

      • Ted S.

        The writers of the 1619 project are domestic terrorists.

    • blackjack

      For the last 300-400 years we’ve all believed that one party can lie cheat and steal their way into power and therefore take away all of our rights and money?

  31. The Late P Brooks

    The fringe news on Youtube is running with a story that Iran was sheltering bin Laden, they set up a decoy, Seal Team 6 went in and killed the decoy, dumped the evidence at sea, and Obama giving Iran $150B to keep their traps shut about it.

    I’ve heard less believable stuff.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Like piss hookers and what not

    • rhywun

      “Russia hacked the 2016 election.”

  32. The Late P Brooks

    “Now it’s here and it’s us, and it’s the citizens of the United States, some of whom are rebelling against everything we thought we believed in for the last 300 to 400 years.”

    Unfortunately, those people work for the government.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    Same goes for all the insurrectionist shit-talk in the media. It’s almost guaranteeing another incident.

    They’re knowingly throwing gasoline on the fire.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      I pretty sure a peaceful transfer of power doesn’t mean going after people on the side that lost.

    • hayeksplosives

      They’re doing most of this overreacting as if it were a serious civil war type of seditious act for the benefit of foreign countries.

      If you lived in Germany and read American Newspapers, you’d think we had roving gangs of white supremacists enacting violence on minorities, that our healthcare is third worldly, our cities crumbling (some truth to that), elections are vulnerable to right-wing cheaters, and we have millions of homeless people.

      This somehow makes reporters think they’ve done a good job in compensating for American success and they can now get accepted into the Eurosnob club.

    • Swiss Servator

      Yeah, The Village Tap got a whole lot of free advertising out of that stunt.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Woohoo

    Gov. Greg Gianforte has reversed some public health restrictions that were implemented by former Gov. Steve Bullock in mid-November as coronavirus cases were surging statewide.

    Gianforte, a Republican, announced Wednesday there would no longer be capacity limits on bars, restaurants, breweries, distilleries and casinos, which previously had to operate at 50% capacity and limit tables to six people.

    Those businesses may also return to their regular closing times rather than having to shut down at 10 p.m.

    ——-

    The new rules are part of a larger overhaul of the public health rules developed by Bullock.

    Gianforte said he has consolidated 25 pages of directives into three pages. He also plans to continue to use the recommendations from his coronavirus task force to revise the state’s pandemic response.

    “The whole concept here is we’re going to move to personal responsibility and away from specific mandates because we trust Montanans with their health and the health of their loved ones,” he said.

    Gallatin County’s local emergency rules on business operations, which largely align with the previous Bullock directive, remain in place.

    The Gallatin City-County Health Board is set to review those rules in February.

    “We expect businesses and individuals to continue to comply with these (local) rules,” Gallatin City-County Health Officer Matt Kelley said in an emailed statement. “This disease remains dangerous and the Board will continue to use the best scientific evidence and epidemiological data available to take actions to reduce spread of this dangerous disease.”

    Fuck you, Kelley. Eat shit and die.

  35. hayeksplosives

    We all talk about the leftist technique of appropriating words and redefining them to help control the narrative and to brainwash the masses through repetition:

    We know how to parse their lingo and extract something like the truth by reading between the lines and by reading or hearing another side or point of view from alternative sources.

    But with big tech, mainstream media, and social networks all completely in the tank for the Dems and the unelected permanent bureaucracy, how long will we even get enough news and alternative takes so that we can make an informed judgment?

    I fear that they will be able to stifle some events and news so completely that we don’t even know there’s anything to try to get more facts and POV about.

    The Non discussion of Hunter Biden’s ickiness and dubious Ukrainian connections left many Dem voters completely ignorant of the story.

    The fact that Eric Swallwell was compromised in a Honey Trap with Chinese Spy Fang Fang is virtually unknown on the left too. As is the fact that the corrupt FBI told Swalwell about it before they took any action so that he was able to tip Fang Fang off and she returned to China.

    And Eric Swallwell is not only still a sitting Congressman, he’s on the House Intelligence Committee.

    As long as there is a leftie saying “Nothing to see here, move along” , we know there is something there deserving of further scrutiny.

    But if they succeed in hiding even the smoke, we won’t know there is fire.

    • blackjack

      We will know there’s fire, but be treated like the homeless bums who shout out, ” Jesus is coming, the end is near!” When information becomes as hard to get as the ” information age” has made it, ignorance and superstition will rule the day. That always leads advancements for humanity, right? Apparently, there’s a “Sig alert” on the information superhighway.

    • Suthenboy

      ivermectin is used to treat roundworm infections
      I have never heard of it used to treat viral infections

      I guess I have to look into this
      the horseshit is piled so high I dont know where to start digging

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I bought enough apple flavored ivermectin paste when I first heard rumblings of its effectiveness to deworm a couple of teams of clydesdales off of eBay for about ten bucks. If it really does work I’m set. I won’t use it for prevention though, only maybe if I get it.

      • hayeksplosives

        That was my reaction too. I’ve used ivermectin in veterinary settings but not for viruses as I recall. Heart worms and a select few types of mites.

    • westernsloper

      Once aboard, law enforcement found a person who showed signs of intoxication.

      Well, I would hope so. #Allhero’sdon’twearcapes.

  36. hayeksplosives

    I reading the book “We Have Been Harmonized” on the recommendation of some Glib (sorry I don’t recall who).

    It’s an insightful look by a European who has lived in China and Turkey and knows what crackdowns on freedom look like. The analysis of China and their plans of remaking the world is excellent and very sobering.

    BUT

    The author cannot help but undermine his own credibility and distract from his thesis by continually expressing his Trump Derangement Syndrome at every opportunity.

    He talks about the dangers of propaganda and newspeak etc but then uses Trump and “alternative facts” and “fake news” to show how even the west got THIS close to letting a dictator take over.

    Just zero awareness of the left’s actual stifling of free speech and their chilling of expressing heterodox thoughts.

    I’m going to continue reading because the Chinese history, philosophy, and plans for the future, and how that looms as a threat to the West is very good. I just wish a reasonable editor had scratched all the stapled-on antitrump signaling. It adds zero to the book while preventing me from being able to recommend the book to others.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      You’ve got to be shitting me.

    • Suthenboy

      count yourself lucky
      five minutes after I shave I can san sand wood with my face
      its a never ending pain the ass

      • Tres Cool

        yo thats based af “five minutes after I shave I can san sand wood with my face”

        “Im so alpha I have to shave my truck, too”

      • Tres Cool

        Thankfully, Grandpa Tres (Tres Sr’s dad) was kindly e̶x̶c̶o̶m̶m̶u̶n̶i̶c̶a̶t̶e̶d̶/̶t̶h̶r̶o̶w̶n̶-̶o̶u̶t̶ asked to leave the Mennonite church, which works out well for me. For a number of reasons Id be a terrible Anabaptist, but the inability to have a proper beard is just the start.

      • Suthenboy

        I dont know if a beard is the measure….
        I’ve known some injuns that were rock solid badasses but had faces like a baby’s ass

      • Tres Cool

        I was in the service with a couple i̶n̶d̶i̶a̶n̶ Native Americans and you’re right- they dont seem to be a very hirsute bunch. Given the Bering land bridge, their asian forebears and( lack of alcohol dehydrogenase) makes sense to me.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        That’s me, I can grow as much hair as I want, so i can afford to play around, the worst that can happen is shave it off,
        at Animals suggestion I bring you,
        https://photos.app.goo.gl/x8t929CEnZ72uYGS6

      • Tres Cool

        Going for the Lemmy Kilmister ?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Yes, or Benjamin Harrison

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Wrong Harrison, ask Animal, it’s his fault

      • Animal

        Can confirm.

      • DEG
    • rhywun

      Assuming this is real, I want to punch every one of them in the face.

  37. Q Continuum

    I’m doing an experiment: seeing how many people respond to non-politcal posts that may or may not be humorous. The results are enlightening.

    • Q Continuum

      AKA: Let’s enjoy life because we can’t stop the dipshits.

      • Q Continuum

        Therefore here you go:

        https://imgur.com/6Kg4lP5

        NSFW.

        Only for the select few, usually reserved for the GlibsAfterDark crew (ask Chafed my kosher buddy).

        PS: Yes, I’ve had wine, what of it?

      • Tres Cool

        #TuneInTokyo

      • Q Continuum

        *lights straffin-san signal*

      • Tres Cool

        + Up Periscope

      • slumbrew

        As ever, mazel tov.

      • Q Continuum

        slumbrew my man. Less than a month until the arrival. Hence the wine.

      • slumbrew

        Enjoy the wine, and sleep, while you can.

      • Suthenboy

        we have seen that woman before, haven’t we?
        she is hands down more beautiful than any of the chive real dolls you post. its not even close

      • Q Continuum

        I see her often.

      • Suthenboy

        I’m completely committed to mrs suthenboy. I wouldn’t trade one minute I have invested in her for all of the money in the world
        if you see her often, see her more often. I dont have enough info to advise you soundly but I can tell you that investing yourself in the right person is never a waste
        I can’t type this out with one finger ffs
        short of it… see her more often

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        ^this, even if it goes tits up, the time together was worth anything,

      • Suthenboy

        you’re a gem yusef

      • SandMan

        You lucky dog.

      • DEG

        Some of us are porn aficionados you know.

        Drinking for me will be later. I’m heading out to the brewpub tonight for a little dinner and beer, and will join the Zoom if Nephilium sets it up when I get home.

      • Q Continuum

        I will perhaps join if I am still conscious.

        We can discuss.

      • Tres Cool

        Some of us are porn a̶f̶i̶c̶i̶o̶n̶a̶d̶o̶s̶ ̶ enthusiasts you know.

        /makes it sound less creepy, perhaps

      • Q Continuum

        I count on DEG not doxxing me.

      • DEG

        I will say nothing more in public.

        If you want to, go right ahead.

      • Q Continuum

        Appreciated.

        I should track my audience better.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        very, very nice Q, thanks

  38. blackjack

    I have very little first hand experience with unions. This is my first ever time being a member of one. Mine sucks balls. Last year, they ” negotiated” our raise package. They got us about 2% per year, which is less than the increase in SS benefits. The federal COLA bump was close to double what we got. Now, they’ve “negotiated” a new deal with the city. If we forego our next two installments of the raises they got us last time, the city won’t go on a firing binge. Basically, the city is saying, ” if you give us three grand a piece, we’ll consider waiting before we start firing people to save money” The union is having a vote this week to ratify this bullshit. They strongly recommend that we vote yes on it. Everyone I talk to is voting no. The union, of course, is the entity who will be counting the votes. So, in a nutshell, I’m going to be paying the city 3k to leave me alone for one year, AND I work for them! I’m certain that many will be intentionally reducing their output by 3k’s worth. Not that I would, mind you.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Unions? HAHAHAHA! you asked for it, you got it, good and hard, it’s one of the first things I ask in an interview, and it’s a deal breaker if they are union,
      /truth

    • rhywun

      Words fail.

    • Suthenboy

      buckle your seatbelt
      morons and cheats just elected the worst admin in American history and have no idea what they have done

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      A third will leave and another third won’t leave but will just not show up for any votes. It’ll be political suicide but the Republican Party belongs on the ash heap of history. The Dems too but we’re going to have to wait a bit longer for that.

      • rhywun

        I don’t see the Dems falling apart any time soon. Going hard-left seems to be working out quite well for them, and I’m not hearing any complaints from the rank-and-file.

  39. dbleagle

    My day? First off. “Go Pack Go!” Three points. Bah, humbug.

    Once the game is over I’ll go for a sail and drink rum.

    Afterwards I have some Opa covered with homemade pesto, steamed broccolini and a French Vouvray.

    Tomorrow will be a variation of the same, Football then sailing.

    Monday will be dangerous lows (66) followed by work.

    • hayeksplosives

      It’s hard to get jazzed up to watch the Packers slaughter the Rams.

      I think I’ll remain outside in the 85 degree weather and full sun.

      Bring on the global warming!

      • ruodberht

        20 degrees warmer than a pleasant temperature? AND full sun?

        No thanks.

      • rhywun

        Yeah, I’m expecting a much better game tonight.

      • Nephilium

        Go Bills!

        /waits until tomorrow’s afternoon game

      • Ted S.

        No it isn’t.

    • slumbrew

      Was thinking of you when I stumbled on the live Prada Cup broadcast last night, dbleagle.

      Those foiling sailboats are amazing.

      • dbleagle

        They are mind-numbingly fast and technical. I am watching the AC challenger race-off and the end of the Vendee Globe. The VG is a solo, non-stop, around the globe race. The leaders have just crossed the equator on their way to the finish and the rear of the fleet is struggling towards Cape Horn.

        The racing I do is much more sane than the VG and affordable than the AC.

        https://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/tracking-map

      • slumbrew

        I went down to check out the Volvo Ocean Race boats when they stopped in Boston a few years ago and did some races in the harbor – really cool stuff & followed them online for the remaining legs.

        Ocean racing is bananas.

  40. Derpetologist

    Aloha

    There was a question about the Arabic equivalent of awomen. I can’t think of one, but here are some tidbits in the same vein:

    Like Spanish, all nouns in Arabic are either masculine or feminine. The rub is all the nouns for bad things (war, storm, sickness, etc) are feminine. Um (rhymes with broom) means mother in Arabic. Ummah means motherland and refers to the global community of Muslims. Ummiyah literally means motherhood, but in modern Arabic it means illiteracy, because traditionally, Arab women were not taught how to read. Arab women have been famous as poets and singers even in the days before Islam.

    In Egyptian Arabic, aha! (the exclamation of sudden comprehension in English) is the sound of a woman climaxing. So it is best not to say this around Egyptians.

    The words liar, fool, and coward are fighting words in the Arab world and are not to be used lightly. Kuss ummak (your mom’s cunt) is the insult of insults and the runner up is ibn sharmutah (son of a whore/bitch).

    In Arabic, the word for lieutenant, mulazim, sounds exactly like the words meaning “not necessary” (mu lazim). Arabic military humor can be extremely funny.

    If you have funny headlines or ideas, please reply with them. So far I have: Crazy Man in Homemade Fur Hat Paralyzes World’s Strongest Government

  41. The Late P Brooks

    Private citizen has an asshole opinion, puts it on public display

    Following the announcement that Republican Senator Ted Cruz would attend President-Elect Joe Biden’s inauguration on Wednesday, former Democratic Texas Congressman Beto O’Rourke tweeted his opposition to Cruz attending the ceremony.

    According to The Texas Tribune, both Cruz and his fellow Texas Senator John Cornyn confirmed that they plan to attend the inauguration, where Biden will be sworn in as the 46th president.

    O’Rourke, who ran against Cruz for his Senate seat in 2018, condemned the senator for his intention to attend, saying he shouldn’t be allowed. The former congressman accused Cruz of sedition and inciting the violent protesters who invaded the Capitol on January 6, which lead to the deaths of five people.

    Earth to Beta. You’re not in charge of anything.

    • Suthenboy

      biden is gonna make that piece of cheese ‘gun czar’

      buckle up

  42. Derpetologist

    suggested music: Curb Your Enthusiasm theme

    Coon Cheese rebrands in Australia after anti-racism campaign

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55628966

    ***
    Coon is historically used as a racist slur, and Aboriginal groups have lobbied for its rebranding for decades.

    It is one of a number of brands to face pressure to rebrand following last year’s Black Lives Matter movement.

    “The name Cheer has the significance of pleasure and joy,” said Saputo’s chief executive Lino Saputo in a statement, adding that it spent more than six months deliberating over the new name.

    The cheese got its original name from American pioneering cheese maker Edward William Coon who patented a ripening process in the 1920s.
    ***

    [head desk]

    • rhywun

      I would have thought that slur had been restricted to the United States but with the rest of the world now pretending to be living under Jim Crow what do I know.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    Worst of the worst

    An Arkansas man who became one of the most recognized figures in last week’s Capitol riot after being photographed propping his feet up on a desk in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office won an order Friday releasing him to house arrest, only to have that ruling overturned hours later.

    Following a five-hour hearing Friday afternoon in Arkansas, Richard Barnett, 60, got the permission of a magistrate judge to return home to await trial on charges of entering Capitol grounds with a stun-gun, disorderly conduct and theft.

    After Fayetteville, Ark.-based U.S. Magistrate Judge Erin Weidemann announced she planned to release Barnett on “very, very restrictive conditions,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Kim Harris asked that Barnett’s release be delayed for three days so that lawyers from the U.S. Attorney’s office in Washington could appeal the decision.

    Soon after the court session, Weidemann issued a brief order denying the stay. She said she was confident Barnett could “easily be taken back into custody should the release order be overturned.”

    Prosecutors in Washington immediately filed an emergency appeal and, after 10 p.m. Friday, Chief U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell blocked Barrett’s release. She also granted prosecutors’ request that Barrett be moved from an Arkansas jail to Washington for a new bail hearing next week.

    Howell did not offer a rationale for either order. Both were issued without any recorded input from Barrett’s defense lawyer, Anthony Siano.

    During the unusually lengthy detention hearing earlier in Arkansas, prosecutors presented Barnett as a dangerous person who had acted deceitfully following the events at the Capitol by turning off the location services on his cell phone, paying only cash and covering his face.

    Harris said Barnett had made “a mockery of [Pelosi] and her office.” The prosecutor also said that in the various images of Barnett in the Capitol he seemed to “very much enjoy this moment of fame.”

    No mercy. He has committed a sin so abhorrent due process has no validity. He should never be allowed to go free.

    They should throw the black hood over his head and just rendition him straight to Gitmo.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Interestingly enough, I consider Benton County, where Barnett is from, to be on the list of acceptable retirement locations in the USA.

      It’s got the headquarters for Wal-Mart, almost full local employment, a thriving arts scene, reasonable cost of living, and very low crime.

    • blackjack

      “a mockery of [Pelosi] and her office.”

      Like it’s possible!

      • Suthenboy

        I was thinking the same
        Pelosi did that already
        this guy should be jailed for pure stupidity

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      “a mockery of [Pelosi] and her office.”

      Who fucking cares? Is mocking our elites a crime now?

      Charge him for the crimes committed and get off your high horse.

    • Viking1865

      Prosecutors in Washington immediately filed an emergency appeal and, after 10 p.m. Friday, Chief U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell blocked Barrett’s release. She also granted prosecutors’ request that Barrett be moved from an Arkansas jail to Washington for a new bail hearing next week.

      Howell did not offer a rationale for either order. Both were issued without any recorded input from Barrett’s defense lawyer, Anthony Siano.

      Appointed by Obama, and this is in the header of her wiki:

      She was a federal judge supervising the grand jury for special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections.[1]

      This is no longer a government, this is a regime.

  44. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Testing

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Narc confirmed

      • blackjack

        If it turns purple…

      • Suthenboy

        I ran into that guy in a bar in San Jose
        apparently he had been sitting there for about five years

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Lima Charlie

    • Animal

      Fuck off, Tulpa.

  45. Stinky Wizzleteats

    The site won’t let me post a link from that that well known YouTube alternative. What the hell?

    • blackjack

      Pornhub?

  46. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Tried a different link, yep itbayutechay links are being blocked.

    • blackjack

      I have found that one of the linking buttons requires me to type text before the link. I.E. no one word links. Have you tried pasting the entire link into the comment?

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Huh, just some kind of bizarre glitch I guess. Man, all of this censorship craziness is getting me paranoid I’m afraid.

      • blackjack

        Doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you!

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Still won’t post, it’s Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson. Something’s screwed.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        And it posted. Freaking bizarre…

  47. Stinky Wizzleteats

    bitchute

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Link works. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  48. Derpetologist

    Also, Moose Drool is far and away my favorite brown ale. I used to have it all the time at this place in Chicago called Pork Shoppe to wash down my pork belly pastrami sandwiches. Damn, I miss that place.

    Newcastle is a good brown ale too, but it’s like the Bud Light of brown ales.

    “If it’s brown, drink it down. If it’s black [singsong voice] send it back.”

  49. The Other Kevin

    “I don’t see the Dems falling apart any time soon.”

    I’m not sure about that. They had to pull out every stop – fake Russian collusion, FBI investigations, impeachment, lockdowns, rioting for 9 months, and lying their asses off, and if you believe it, cheating – and they STILL only beat Trump by a small margin, lost ground in the house, and have a split senate. Normally when they win, they just assume people will keep voting for them because of the awesome things they do. But not this time. They are pushing for censorship, a crackdown on “domestic terrorists” and expelling members of the other party. Those aren’t the actions of a party that is confident they have a majority of Americans on their side.

    One thing they did is completely trash their relationship with unions. A lot of union people voted for Trump because he promised to be on their side, while Clinton took them for granted. The same thing happened with Old Joe. I don’t recall a single time he said “I know a lot of working class people voted for Trump, but I can do better.” Instead he and the rest of the party not only ignored them, but added insult to injury and called them white supremacists for supporting Trump. Then they fucked over the police unions by allowing rioting and calling for defunding the cops. (In Chicago, Lightfoot played it smart by backing the cops and not allowing rioting to go on). This year the national police union endorsed a Republican for the first time in decades.

    Once Joe snuggles up to China and undoes Trump’s protections, and the squad have their way with defunding police, it’s going to get ugly. I think the unions (both cop and otherwise) are up for grabs, and if the Republicans (or Rand Paul’s possible splinter group) are smart they’ll figure that out.

    • rhywun

      if you believe it, cheating

      I dunno if I believe it but if it’s true, none of the rest of that stuff matters.

      Either that, or I’m just being a negative Nelly today.

    • The Other Kevin

      I will go one step further and say that’s true even if it appears there was cheating. Personally, I’m not confident that there was or was not cheating, and therein lies the problem. We need to be sure of that, and we aren’t. As of right now, I don’t plan on voting again. But a lot can happen in a few years.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        This is where I’m at.

        I’m just not sure, and that’s bad.

        And what makes it bad is the underlying reason why: we can no longer trust any source. The media is in the tank for Team Blue. They provide cover. Social Media is in the tank for Team Blue. They provide cover, and minimize, if not completely block Republicans. We can’t trust anything we read or see.

    • JG43

      They’ve always cheated. By they, I mean the dems and the pubs. Neither side really has a problem with it since it’s an entry barrier for outsiders.