Thursday Morning… SUPRISE!!… Links

by | Jan 28, 2021 | Daily Links | 525 comments

What’s up, guys? How the heck are each of you? Sloopy and Banjos are out making money or babies, I can never remember with those two kids. Join me in wishing them happy ninth (9th??) anniversary. If you remember them as individuals instead of a couple, you’ve been hanging around us and TOS for at least nine years and two weeks. Birthdays include the newest Supreme Court justice, Frodo, Thomas Aquinas, and a bunch of beisbol nobodies.

One step closer to Marstopia. .

How is this a news story?

No good deed goes unpunished.

The system was always rigged, now they’re just not bothering to lie about it.

 

About The Author

Brett L

Brett L

Brett set out to find America, the real America, the America of strip malls and serial killers, of butthole waxing and kelp smoothies, of cocaine and maggots. He sought it in the most American part of America—Florida: swamp gas and fever dreams, where love arrives on a rickety boat and leaves when it doesn't have the money for its fourth abortion. Oh, where has Brett gone? He’s drinking at the neck of America’s wang, chewing its foreskin and working its shaft. Brett is becoming legend. Brett can never die. Brett can never die. Brett is America, facedown in his own patriotic puke: the red his blood, the white his stomach lining, and the cold, cold blue his gas station slushie, spiked with coconut rum and tetracycline.

525 Comments

  1. AlexinCT

    MUGATU’S DERELICT!

  2. Cy

    Happy Anniversary Banjos and Sloopy! May there be a lot more baby making practice and money making in your near future!

    • AlexinCT

      Baby making baby making, or practice baby making?

      • Fourscore

        One (or two) always need baby-making practice.

      • Rat on a train

        Sometimes what you think is practice is the real thing.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        So, like Ender’s Game but stickier?

      • Agent Cooper

        What a shit movie. Was the book good? I never read it.

      • Nephilium

        I enjoyed the book. I didn’t really care for the sequels, and much preferred the Ender’s Shadow series of sequels (which follows a second character, and what happens on Earth).

      • SDF-7

        Weird… I liked Speaker for the Dead and to a lesser extent Xenocide, but the Shadow ones bored me to tears. Bean was never anywhere near as engaging a character for me.

      • Old Man With Candy

        As soon as he started in with the Portuguese pigs, I tapped out.

      • Cy

        Practice makes perfect!

    • Tonio

      [sings Flintstones “Happy Anniversary” song]

      • Festus

        I’ve literally only seen that episode once. Same as the credit card one “CHAAARGE IT!” Also the one with the Rock and Roll guy singing “Twitch, Twitch” but they are all imprinted on my brain for some reason and I never even dug the Flintstones.

      • Particular Individual

        Here we come on the run with burger and a bun…

      • Festus

        That chick is crazy-hot with straight hair. Just sayin’

    • Gustave Lytton

      Congrats! I do remember them before the get together. 9 years? I want some time back. Where did it all go?

    • The Other Kevin

      Happy anniversary! I guess I do go that far back at TOS, where initially I was just Kevin. At the time it was the wild west of commenting, and you could change your handle at will. That made for some fun exchanges.

    • DEG

      Happy Anniversary Banjos and Sloopy!

  3. AlexinCT

    The system was always rigged, now they’re just not bothering to lie about it.

    If they can steal an election and punish those that call that out, why not do the same blatantly on Wall Street?

    • Sean

      Exactly.

      • rhywun

        I thought Wall Street were the Bad Guys in their universe? It’s all so confusing.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Yet another one of those “public enemy, private friend” situations. I’m sure they’re all “oh, not you… I hate the other wall street fat cats” at their soirees.

      • Rebel Scum

        Not according to the Biden cabinet.

  4. PieInTheSky

    From the nasdaq link

    “Her comments come as a flurry of activity on Reddit has sparked earth-shattering price rises in stocks like GameStop, AMC, and Nokia, with no fundamental moves behind the stock movements. ” – yes because there are always fundamentals behind stock movement

    • AlexinCT

      One of the best descriptions of what and how the GME thing that happened was here.

      I see a whole new stock market niche for people here: fucking over the big short selling assholes that manipulate the market to make billions.

      Yeah, I hear people saying the investors paying insane money for the GME stock that isn’t worth it are taking a huge risk, but based on how I know shorting works, that is not the case. The morons holding the shorting position have to pay whatever the stock price is and that’s why the stock IS worth the price despite the company not being worth the stock price.

      I hope the lot of these people that got together to fuck over the shorters make a ton of cash. And I hope they do this to them again and again. These firms should not be allowed to fuck over companies (and investors) this way to make money.

      • juris imprudent

        Trading Places, amirite?

      • Rat on a train

        I’d buy that for a dollar.

      • Swiss Servator

        “These firms should not be allowed to…”

        Allowed?

        They took the risk of an easy kill, and now they are getting hammered. Let the market dole out the punishment, not “forbidding” some activity.

      • Rat on a train

        Live with the consequences of your actions only applies to the proles.

      • Fourscore

        The new believers will have to learn that what goes up also comes down, sometimes unbelievably fast. That’s why the market is always right, at that moment, but not always what we want or want to believe.

        “That’s why I always buy….”

      • AlexinCT

        Except they are now going to the SEC to ask them to stop trading…

      • Swiss Servator

        You were the one calling for “not allowing” firms to short. I am not in favor of “not allowing” market activity that is not fraudulent.

      • AlexinCT

        I believe I was saying that shorters are assholes – especially the ones that try to destroy a company going through a though time like GME was because of Kung Flu – and deserved this sort of cock block, not that they should be stopped by the authorities/powers that be. The practice has its purpose. The line should be drawn when the shorters go beyond the speculation to actively work to crash a company. That should be penalized.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        And the autists are penalizing them.

        But that shouldn’t be allowed!” /topmen

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        The line should be drawn when the shorters go beyond the speculation to actively work to crash a company. That should be penalized.

        IMO, this is one reason why companies should think twice before going public. Not just shorters trying to kill the company off, but all different varieties of shareholders who don’t have the company’s best interests at heart. Public companies live in constant fear of the shareholder, and that’s the institutional equivalent of having sold ones soul to the devil for a pile of cash. Can’t complain too much when the devil gets his due.

      • mrfamous

        But that’s not what is going to happen. It’s all “free market capitalism” until the connected take it in the ass, at which point they start screaming about how unfair it all is and complain to the government to get them to “do something about it.”

        So the SEC is gonna crack down on the Redditors and make what they did illegal. May even send a couple of them to jail under plea bargains despite the fact that none of them broke the law.

        Fair-weathered free marketers run our financial system thanks to their cronies in government. It sucks, but feudalism has been the way of the world for a very long time now.

      • juris imprudent

        ^^^ THIS

      • AlexinCT

        Double this.

      • WTF

        I tried posting that on derpbook, and sure enough they would not allow the link because “it goes against community standards”. Thereby proving his point about the media being in bed with the big hedge funds.

      • Mojeaux

        EXCELLENT write-up. Thanks, Alex.

      • Festus

        This is better than 4-chan playing “Capture The Flag”!

    • R C Dean

      Yeah, piling on a stock with highly leveraged positions to change its price is only “manipulation” when the little people do it, and People Who Matter lose money.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        ^^. They probably could’ve gotten away with this with nearly zero scrutiny if they attached some sort of social justice statement to it, though. Activist shareholders are hunky dory. Troll shareholders, not so much, even when they do the exact same thing.

      • zwak

        The essential problem, as you point out, is morals. Whose morals are OK, vs. whose are not.

        We live in a new period of religious fervor.

  5. AlexinCT

    I don’t want to make light of this and am being serious when I ask if this claim of suicide was not like “Jeffrey Epstein’s suicide….

    • Agent Cooper

      “Officer Brian Sicknick, also of the Capitol Police, died after being beaten by rioters as they tried to break into the building in an attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.”

      This has still not been proven.

      • AlexinCT

        And it has disappeared from the news….

        I have read that he died from a heart attack and that was misreported, but at this point they are not interested in reporting this accurately because there is an agenda to make happen.

      • Rebel Scum

        Narrative > Facts. Hence keeping the people that died from health complications in the count. The only person that died in direct result is Ashli Babbit. And a government goon killed her.

  6. Fourscore

    Looking at that picture of rowdies in front of the Capitol Building, of course Trump needs to be punished and the staffers are just the people to do it or at least encourage it because they hate mob violence and that’s what deplorables do.

    • Festus

      They look like a bunch of rednecks having a hootenanny. More tail-gaiting and center track than insurrection. Have any of those journalists ever attended a rodeo or a mud-bog before?

      • Fourscore

        UTexas pregame tail gate? Needs more beer.

      • Brett L

        Not enough coeds.

      • mrfamous

        Evergreen statement

      • Master JaimeRoberto (royal we/us)

        No, they don’t. They don’t even know anyone who owns a pickup truck.

    • Rat on a train

      It’s learn to code, not learn to install solar panels!

      • PieInTheSky

        I would love to see a buzzfed or vice “journalist” learn to install solar panels

      • Cy

        Ha! I don’t know if I could take it after laughing at them so hard trying to get up a ladder onto a roof!

      • PieInTheSky

        the real question is, is installing a solar panel easier than changing a tire?

      • Cy

        Nope. But I can tell you right now, it has something to do with systemic racism. I’m not sure how yet. But we’re sure going to find out!

      • UnCivilServant

        What size solar panel? What size tire? What working conditions? What state is the original tire to be changed out? What’s the location of each activity?

        I’d say changing a car tire on a spring day in a vacant parking lot is easier than installing a residential rooftop solar panel, but changing an eight foor mining dump truck tire in any condition is more difficult than installing a calculator’s solar panel.

    • PieInTheSky

      solar power is dumb

      good luck making all miners solar technicians.

      • AlexinCT

        The only seriously viable solar tech is panels in orbit where the atmosphere doesn’t degrade the energy transfer. Solving the problem of how to get the collected power down for use is still an issue (microwaving it down presents a whole bunch of risks, and running cables simply isn’t viable), so even that is a no-go. The one technology that can replace fossil fuels is considered even more evil by the luddites.

      • UnCivilServant

        microwaving it down presents a whole bunch of risks,

        You say risks, I say alternative primary purpose.

        “Do as we say or we’ll provide free power where you don’t want it!”

      • Rat on a train

        We’ll still charge you for the power.

      • AlexinCT

        Stalin & Mao nod heads in agreement and smile.

      • Rat on a train

        Don’t fight it son. Confess quickly! If you hold out too long you could jeopardize your credit rating.

      • Particular Individual

        Sol has a sad ?

      • hayeksplosives

        Solar has its place (best when used at its point of generation, like in the building that has some solar panels on the roof) but it cannot be the main source of grid power: too unpredictable, not enough during peak demand, no adequate battery storage for nights and other low light days, etc.

        Solar jobs are certainly not one-for-one replacements for fossil fuel power jobs. That’s just preposterous.

      • db

        Solar is absolutely no substitute for nuclear and fossil.

        Depending on what happens with energy policy in the next couple of years, I’m considering swallowing my pride and looking into a solar installation on my barn, which has a south facing roof at ~30 degrees from horizontal at about 1000 square feet.

    • Not an Economist

      Those selfish workers need to give up good paying jobs right now in the hope they get jobs in the future with the possibility they will make the same amount of money. In the meantime they are supposed to pay their rent/mortgage and feed their family with hope and dreams.

    • Idle Hands

      These people are fucking disgusting soulless physical manifestations of demons, we are in hell.

    • Rebel Scum

      “You have to retool your entire skillset and career because we said so.”

      That cunte still has his own plane.

      • Swiss Servator

        Hey, he earned his money honestly! Through marriage and politics!!!!!!!

  7. PieInTheSky

    This is Julius Fromm (1883-1945), he was a Jewish-Polish immigrant who moved to Germany with his family as a child. Fromm invented the condom vending machine & the “cement dipping” method which created the first seamless condoms.

    Germany in the Weimar Republic was quite sexually liberated & condoms (or Fromms as they were known) were sold openly – though sold as aids to “hygiene”, rather than as a contraceptive.

    In 1928, Fromm’s company produced the first condom vending machines which were installed in bars and clubs.

    Thread!

    https://twitter.com/WhoresofYore/status/1354489442837401608

    a (((plot))) to lower western birth rates it seems

    • Festus

      At long last we learned how “Squeaky” earned her nickname.

    • Rat on a train

      The Poles had a secret agreement with the Irish to retake their ancestral lands.

  8. The Late P Brooks

    Meanwhile, back at the swamp

    A group of Democratic House staffers are drafting what they hope will be a bipartisan message to the Senate about the upcoming impeachment trial, urging senators to take the trauma their aides experienced during the violent insurrection in the Capitol on January 6 seriously, a staffer tells CNN.

    “We are staff who work for members of the U.S. House of Representatives, where it is our honor and privilege to serve our country and our fellow Americans. But on January 6th, 2021, our workplace was attacked by a violent mob trying to stop the Electoral College vote count,” the draft of the letter reads.

    In an effort to make the letter appeal to Republican staffers as well, its drafters organized the signatures so staffers can sign on with just their email addresses, leaving off the offices of the members of Congress they work for.

    The letter squarely blames former President Donald Trump for inciting the attack.

    So trauma.

    Who dares to challenge the selfless heroes of democracy, beavering away to craft the chains of enslavement? What a bunch of ungrateful lunatics.

    Also, Bad Orange Traitor must be flayed alive and burned at the stake, because justice and democracy. Make and example of him, so the deplorables get their minds right.

    • WTF

      he letter squarely blames former President Donald Trump for inciting the attack.

      Oddly enough, none of these assertions come with any actual evidence showing Trump inciting an attack.

      • Rat on a train

        We choose truth over facts.

    • Cy

      It bothers me that in 10 years these assholes are going to be running for offices and boasting about:

      “I was at the storming of the capitol! I’ve seen the whites of their eyes! Those soulless racists!”

      There will be stories made up and ‘corroborated.’ When all they did was cower under a desk while some idiot with a bison horn hat walked around with his shirt off.

      • Festus

        ^This plus a bunch of old, fat rednecks taking selfies for lulz.

      • Rat on a train

        I had to evacuate under sniper fire!

    • R C Dean

      Bad Orange Traitor must be flayed alive and burned at the stake

      If actually convicted in court of inciting an insurrection, the death penalty is on the table.

      • zwak

        And that would completely refute every one of the Liberal ideals as they transfer over to leftist totalitarianism.

  9. db

    Wow, nine years? Congratulations! Seems like yesterday. Except back then my beard used to have no gray in it.

    • Festus

      I hear it’s best practice to keep your beard in a cedar chest and only take her out for high profile events. Opening nights, weddings, meeting politicians and the like…

      • db

        I’d heard quite the opposite: that’s it’s best to exercise one’s beard in public as frequently as possible, in order to improve the perception of legitimacy.

      • Festus

        Of course but there must be a middle ground. Perhaps replacing the beard every few years to avoid the grey? Works for Tom.

  10. OBJ FRANKELSON

    Marstopia? This isn’t going to be like seasteading, is it?

      • Festus

        Late applause for that stick-up-the-bum comment from yesterday. I agree with KK, we could have shut it all down after that. Nearly as funny as “strangling gloves”!

      • UnCivilServant

        Thanks.

        I try.

        Sometimes I hit it out of the park, other times I fall flat on my face.

      • Festus

        #metoo (as seen recently).

      • Fourscore

        You’re still OK in my book, Son.

        We all stumble a little. Actually, in addition to the temp memory loss, (Oh, what was that guy’s name?) I stumble and seem to be off balance physically as well, as time passes.

      • Festus

        Hey, Dad. I’m a lower-middle class Canadian with a shitty job and no prospects but I feature that I’m better off than 99.99% of every human that has ever walked God’s Garden. I bitch and moan because I care. Thank you for the kind words, 4×20. You are special to me.

  11. The Late P Brooks

    Sometimes short sellers are bad. Sometimes short sellers are good.

    We’ll let you know.

    • UnCivilServant

      I am against selling something you don’t actually have. Sounds too much like fraud.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        I agree.

      • invisible finger

        Don’t you actually have to borrow the stock from someone else first?

        I always wondered who would loan stock to a short seller. I mean, this isn’t like typical lender-borrower situations where the lender and borrower are both betting the borrower succeeds. A short-seller is taking the exact opposite position the lender is taking. But what does the lender get out of that exactly?

      • UnCivilServant

        I think the current holder charges interest of some sort, usually a fee based on the value of the stock being borrowed. They do not plan on selling soon, and most short-sellers are trying to take advantage of short term volitility. Long term declines are too obvious and don’t lend themselves to shorting. So, in theory, it’s free money for the lender, as the short seller is required to return an equal number of shares plus the fee, and they planned to ride out the volatility anyway.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Yes but I believe it the broker who is holding the securities for the actual owner who does this. If it were the actual owner doing this would be a different story for me.

      • hayeksplosives

        I don’t like the creation of derivatives and the like.

        If you buy stock in a company, that is a share of that company that wants to succeed in making money.

        If you buy a derivative, you’re betting on whether a stock will go up or down and when. It’s just legalized gambling and it does create a group of people who want certain stocks (and thus companies) to fail. That is not a good incentive.

        I am clear about not liking it. I am less clear on whether is can or should be regulated or outlawed.

      • But Enough About [this space intentionally left blank]

        I think part of the problem is that derivatives can also be used as insurance against a price move in a particular direction, which isn’t (IMNSHO) a bad thing. You can buy insurance against adverse events everywhere else — why not in the financial markets?

      • leon

        Options are a deriviatve and they are both leveraging, but also a huge risk managment tool. I can buy against my shares to cover too much downside risk. All insurance is “leagalized” betting in this manner.

  12. Rebel Scum

    SpaceX’s thin-skinned Starship ‘test tank’ passes first trial

    I guess they weren’t too critical of it.

    • Agent Cooper

      Wait until it gets to middle school …

  13. db

    CEO Elon Musk says that a new thin-skinned Starship ‘test tank’ just passed its first trial, taking advantage of delays to Starship SN9’s planned high-altitude launch debut.

    Delayed by a lack of FAA approval for unknown reasons, Starship SN9’s 12.5-kilometer (7.8 mi) launch debut (virtually identical to SN8’s 12.5 km launch last month) is in limbo pending an “FAA review” according to Musk.

    What are the chances this “FAA Review” has something to do with the recent change in administrations? The cynic in me say 90%; the optimist in me says 50%. But I’m 75% cynic, 25% optimist, so the weighted priors are like 84% political, 16% other.

    • AlexinCT

      What are the chances this “FAA Review” has something to do with the recent change in administrations?

      I would say that is not a bet I would go against. The people that belief government should pick winners & losers and only government should do big things, want to make sure they can later tell people like Musk that he didn’t do that (quoting Obama).

    • Tonio

      Musk is openly contemptuous of government plans to regulate his planned Mars colony. And he is the new kid on the block and is eating the lunch of entrenched launch contractors such as ULA, etc.

      • db

        Yes. I am no Musk fanboy, but I sincerely hope he escapes the nearly inevitable attempts at cancellation that will be the result of his dissing the government. Dude needs to fly under the radar more.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        Especially since he’s a South African, which means he’s EXTRA white supremacist-y.

      • Cy

        Musk deserves a medal of Freedom just for how much rent seeking fraud he’s exposed at NASA. He fire off equivalent rockets for literally 1/1,000 cost of NASA. He’s a walking talking big fuck you to 30 years of lies and non-performance.

      • db

        There is a tone to be said for this position. Musk took a sword to the Gordian knot that was strangling advances in launch technology and access to space.

      • AlexinCT

        And the government grifters will hate him in perpetuity for that act…

      • leon

        Pretty much this. Many Decades ago, NASA brain drained the economy to get man to the moon, and since then has been a rent seeking whore for people to funnel money into for political prestige. I don’t doubt that this FAA stuff is influenced by the change in Admin. The Dems are clear that space belongs to the government and will not have other people going into it without their permisison.

      • Tonio

        I keep waiting for Musk to establish an offshore launch facility. Some nice little island nation somewhere that would be glad to be the world’s spaceport.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Planned and in design as we speak. Probably in the middle of the gulf of Mexico for the first one, and then multiple around the world thereafter.

      • Tonio

        And don’t forget the self-landing, re-usable booster stages. That was truly kicking sand in the faces of Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, et als.

      • db

        The closest they ever came to booster re-usability was the SRBs in the Shuttle stack, and they required such an extensive overhaul after being dunked in seawater that it likely would have been cheaper to build new ones each time. But hey, guaranteed jobs for the booster manufacturer.

    • db

      An update: according to activities going on around the Boca Chica test facility, a test launch is expected today, so whatever review was going on must have been cleared. There is currently a launch TFR in the area.

      • KromulentKristen

        Were you on the Zoom where we were laughing that Elon took Iridium’s money to launch their satellites, then turned around and launched his own? IFL that.

        (Iridium was a shitshow when I worked there)

      • db

        Nah, I missed that. I’d like to get a job at SpaceX but the options for chemical engineers are limited, so far. They’re going to need ChEs for designing and operating processes for in situ resource utilization eventually. Plus, not really a fan at all of moving to CA. If they relocate everything to TX, that’d be a big change in my calculus.

  14. Rebel Scum

    “No one should have to experience something like this in their place of work,” the staffer told CNN. “And I think it’s important to tell this part of the story, because it’s not just members of Congress who come to work at the Capitol every day. And it’s not just staffers who work at the Capitol who were traumatized by what happened. And I think that is a piece of it. The trauma is there; the trauma is very real. And anytime that new pieces of information come out, you know, you’re kind of re-traumatized.”

    For the sake of the country please resign your office and curl up in your bed with some hot chocolate and a good book for the rest of you miserable days.

    • Cy

      and crayons… don’t forget the crayons.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        Don’t bring the Marine Corps into this.

  15. Rebel Scum

    A man fatally stabbed in a bar early Tuesday morning was trying to break up a fight as a “peacemaker,” Clearwater police said Wednesday.

    Would have been better off if he had a peacemaker on hand.

  16. PieInTheSky

    The Stipa-Caproni was an experimental Italian aircraft designed in 1932 by Luigi Stipa and built by Caproni. It featured a hollow, barrel-shaped fuselage with the engine and propeller completely enclosed by the fuselage

    https://twitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1354731053827690501

    • Tonio

      Welcome back!

      • PieInTheSky

        So many welcome backs and not one complementary bottle of wine…

      • UnCivilServant

        Complementary? Wine?

        We give Whine, not Compliments.

      • PieInTheSky

        *complimentary

      • AlexinCT

        Someone insert a gif of a wine bottle here for the vampire….

      • Swiss Servator

        How about I buy some Romanian wine, next time I am at the shop? I can at least support the growers, yes?

      • PieInTheSky

        Well none of the small ones who need the money will be available I assume but why not. Recas needs money too

    • Festus

      That’s Tres’ commuter aircraft.

  17. Tonio

    Okay, about that letter. I am watching the CNN video re-creation at the top of the article, the one where they show what happened when with highlighted maps intercut with footage. At approximately 03:00 the narrator says “a 35-yo woman named Ashli Babbitt is reported to be in critical condition after being shot in the chest outside the Speaker’s Lobby…”

    Note the passive voice. Everywhere else in the video, it’s rioters broke windows, breached something, etc. Not “Ashli Babbitt was shot in the chest,” but rather “is reported to be in critical condition,” and note how they bury who the shooter was until later in the article. This is shitweaselry of the worst sort.

    • Rebel Scum

      I want to know how it was “15 hours of chaos”. There was a Trump speech and a relatively* small riot (not an “insurrection”…) that started during Trump’s speech.

      *Still exceedingly peaceful by BLM/Antifa standards.

      • Festus

        FYTW. The reporting has been solid and the narrative has been carved in stone. “Shut up!” the media explained.

  18. AlexinCT

    Likely my ass. These fuckers are finally admitting that the reason they all panicked at first and shut everything down was that they KNEW the Kung Flu was a man made virus and they had no idea of how bad it really was. The CCP decided that if China was going to have to take it in the ass then everyone else was too. The fact that Biden’s masters then did everything they could to hide this event and let this thing go global should be seen as an act of war. And that is because it is.

    • Animal

      Biden will be tougher on China than President Trump because President Biden is very smart and strategic…

      I did an actual spit-take at that line.

      • AlexinCT

        THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS AND I WILL NOT SAY FIVE EVEN IF YOU KEEP DEMANDING I DO!

        The people that are always projecting are doing this for a reason…

    • db

      I accidentally posted this below; intended as a response here:

      Will a change of the U.S. administration help find an answer?

      Biden will be tougher on China than President Trump because President Biden is very smart and strategic and he understands that American power and American strength doesn’t rest on bluster, it rests on principles, it rests on partnerships, and alliances and accountability. And the Trump administration unfortunately gave China a pass by over politicizing the question of the origin of the virus by alienating America’s partners and allies.

      As to the first part of the answer: pure fantasy. As to the second, plausible.

    • Agent Cooper

      We all knew it was man-made from the get-go. Nothing else actually makes sense when you considered where the lab is, where the market is, where the supposed origin species came from, etc.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    Short selling is not universally bad. They are good at finding companies with hidden weaknesses.

    I wish a bunch of self-interested people had come along last March or April and laid a short seller’s analytical framework on the plague response, starting with an honest assessment of the secondary and tertiary costs of shutdowns.

    But what do I know?

    • straffinrun

      Yessir. Short selling in and of itself is not an evil tool. In the hands of cronies, it’s evil as it is with everything they touch.

      • robc

        Exactly, to both of you.

        Short selling isnt bad, but short sellers have to understand they are taking on infinite* risk, and have to live with it.

        *theoretically, but obviously they go bankrupt well before that.

      • straffinrun

        In high school there was a dude that would bet everyone he couldn’t snort a sleeve of saltines. I’d take the “betcha can’t” and if he did, well, good for him. Stupid bets get fucked in a free market. *shrugs*

    • AlexinCT

      Short selling is not universally bad. They are good at finding companies with hidden weaknesses.

      Yeah, if that was all it was, then I wouldn’t care, but reality is that most of these shorters also do real, real bad shit – like working with the fucking lying scumbags pretending to be media to peddle false stories that will help them crash companies trying to make it so they can cash in – and that shouldn’t be allowed.

      • straffinrun

        That media manipulation is where it gets tricky. They’ll hammer you for giving financial advice unless you are on an approved list.

      • AlexinCT

        You mean like this?

        She gets away with paying a fine (for getting caught this time), while you and I would be heading to pound-me-in-the-ass prison….

      • WTF

        working with the fucking lying scumbags pretending to be media to peddle false stories that will help them crash companies trying to make it so they can cash in

        Yeah, if that isn’t fraud, then it’s the next best thing.

      • Viking1865

        “fucking lying scumbags pretending to be media to peddle false stories that will help them crash companies trying to make it so they can cash in – and that shouldn’t be allowed.”

        Outlawing dueling was a mistake.

      • Animal

        Outlawing dueling was a mistake.

        Hmm. Tune in Monday. You might find something… interesting.

  20. Animal

    Happy anniversary, Sloopy and Banjos! May you enjoy another fourscore and ten of the same.

  21. Rebel Scum

    Thanks for letting us know.

    The Virginia Board of Elections rule allowing officials to count ballots that arrived without a postmark up to three days after the election was illegal, a state judge ruled.

    Virginia Circuit Court Judge William Eldridge ruled the state’s late mail-in ballot law violated state statute and permanently banned the law in future Virginia elections, the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) announced Monday. PILF sued the state’s board of elections in October on behalf of Thomas Reed, a Frederick County, Virginia election official.

    “This is a big win for the Rule of Law,” PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said in a statement. “This consent decree gives Mr. Reed everything he requested – a permanent ban on accepting ballots without postmarks after Election Day and is a loss for the Virginia bureaucrats who said ballots could come in without these protections.”

    • Ownbestenemy

      Well that is a slap in the face. California had a similar action during the election but the courts said “well next time we wont allow it”

    • Viking1865

      But there’s nothing in there about Magical Flash Drives.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      All the replies saying the cop needs to be “retrained”

      This is why we’re fucked.

    • AlexinCT

      OBEY YOU FUCKING SERF!

    • Rebel Scum

      Cops weren’t masked up in the car together. Arrest them.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    “No one should have to experience something like this in their place of work,” the staffer told CNN. “And I think it’s important to tell this part of the story, because it’s not just members of Congress who come to work at the Capitol every day. And it’s not just staffers who work at the Capitol who were traumatized by what happened. And I think that is a piece of it. The trauma is there; the trauma is very real. And anytime that new pieces of information come out, you know, you’re kind of re-traumatized.”

    Grow a backbone, buttercup.

    • Master JaimeRoberto (royal we/us)

      What are the odds that some of them were getting in people’s faces during the summer protests?

  23. robc

    GME at 450 in pre-market trading.

    The WSB trolls that put in sell orders at $420.69 should be liquidating when the market opens.

    • UnCivilServant

      So what you’re saying is, now’s the time to short gamestop?

      /Cathy Newman.

      • robc
      • UnCivilServant

        *checks portfolio*

        Oh, hey, Games Workshop paid $8.20 in dividends. CD Projekt is creeping back up. Aaand my mutal funds… got wrecked.

      • robc

        shorting at $450 makes a helluva lot more sense than shorting at $15

    • straffinrun

      I’m wondering how dedicated these people are. Don’t even know how much is out there left to be shorted. Hatred monetized is something to behold.

      • robc

        Some are saying they won’t sell until DFV does. Others have calculated about $6k makes him a billionaire and that is their goal.

        I find that silly, but earlier this week, I thought the $420 was silly…but not entirely unreasonable.

      • straffinrun

        Don’t know enough about finance to follow the minutae, but I am enjoying watching the establishment dealing with the calls from their lobbyist class crying uncle.

      • PieInTheSky

        wrong

      • robc

        WSB thinks Roaring Kitty is DFV.

        I have seen no evidence that isnt correct. And a tweet with no evidence at all doesnt count.

      • PieInTheSky

        Dude my post is a damn meme

      • robc

        I dont know my memes.

        Other than the honey bear one I posted above. That is about the limit of my meme knowledge.

  24. KromulentKristen

    Happy anniversary to the Banjoses-Sloopyses!

    • robodruid

      KK:
      WRT your post yesterday. We just got news that we weren’t supposed to be outside the commuting area of our jobs. One person in another area moved, and was still “tele-working”
      If you get a 5th wheel, i think its still technically doable.
      just an FYI

      • KromulentKristen

        Thanks! We sometimes have restrictions like that, but we also have people around the country, and my one team member is in OH. I’ll have to tell them where I plan to domicile because there are major insurance and tax implications. I just need to review my contract carefully when the time comes.

      • Swiss Servator

        If you end up with any questions…I sort of do contract stuff for a living.

      • KromulentKristen

        I will let you know! Thanks!!

  25. robc

    a bunch of beisbol nobodies

    Akshully…..today is not that bad.

    You have HoFer George Wright. Admittedly, he stopped playing in 1882, so not exactly current events. The top two are Magglio Ordonez and Bill White. Further down the list, Braves fans will remember Jermaine Dye and Lyle Overbay.

    No one spectacular, but I don’t look at the list and get disgusted like most of the last week.

    • Chipwooder

      Dye did come up with the Braves, but had his best years with the White Sox though.

    • Old Man With Candy

      If you hang on until this weekend, Davey Johnson is coming up. My all-time favorite 2nd baseman and manager. (Fuck Peter Angelos in his wrinkled old ass)

  26. db

    Will a change of the U.S. administration help find an answer?

    Biden will be tougher on China than President Trump because President Biden is very smart and strategic and he understands that American power and American strength doesn’t rest on bluster, it rests on principles, it rests on partnerships, and alliances and accountability. And the Trump administration unfortunately gave China a pass by over politicizing the question of the origin of the virus by alienating America’s partners and allies.

    As to the first sentence: pure fantasy. As to the second, plausible.

    • AlexinCT

      because President Biden is very smart

      As smart as a rock.

    • Agent Cooper

      “Biden will be tougher on China than President Trump because President Biden is very smart and strategic and he understands that American power and American strength doesn’t rest on bluster, it rests on principles, it rests on partnerships, and alliances and accountability. And the Trump administration unfortunately gave China a pass by over politicizing the question of the origin of the virus by alienating America’s partners and allies.”

      This seriously sounds written by a 4th grader.

    • Rebel Scum

      American strength doesn’t rest on bluster

      So Biden will draw a red line?

      • UnCivilServant

        Oh, no, that’s too triggering and racist.

        He’ll designate a safe space.

    • UnCivilServant

      Don’t tanning beds put out mostly UV light? They should be the most virus-free places you can find.

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^THIS^^^

        Which is why people should know this isn’t about safety and about control…

      • db

        It’s not even about that, probably. It’s about making rules about safety, and then substituting compliance with the rules for actual safety. This happens in industry, in government, everywhere. You have a safety problem, you start a safety program. The safety program issues rules, and measures compliance with the rules. Eventually, the safety program and compliance with it becomes more important than actual safety. At that point, thinking about safety and doing things that are actually safer can put you in conflict/violation of the safety rules.

        Because compliance with the safety rules has been substituted for actual safety. This is ubiquitous and damn near impossible to recover from. It leaves a wake of ineffective safety programs and a lack of truly new thinking.

      • db

        That’s just crazy talk.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        You’re right.

        Wearing masks doesn’t block new thinking.

        The new thought is that THREE masks are better than two, which is better than one.

      • Nephilium

        Keep in mind, this appears to be in Wales, UV light could be a deadly weapon there.

    • Rebel Scum

      Who are you to question the pen and phone of the most successful (by ballot total) presidential candidate ever?

    • Agent Cooper

      DO read the comments on the second link.

      • Sean

        Yowza.

    • AlexinCT

      You spanking?

  27. The Late P Brooks

    Meanwhile, back in Cloud Cuckoo Land

    President Biden on Wednesday unveiled his environmental plan, a Green New Deal-like initiative aimed at putting “climate change at the center of our domestic, national security and foreign policy,” which is drawing criticism for its high cost and potential job losses as the US tries to dig out of its COVID-19-induced economic troubles.

    Biden pitched the package of policy changes — including eliminating coal, oil and natural gas as electricity sources by 2035 — as a boon to the workforce, but was met with worry over the current jobs that would be lost amid a health crisis, economic crisis and $27 trillion national debt.

    ——-

    Biden tried to overcome skepticism about the impact of his policy proposals on sectors that employ millions of people.

    “Today is climate day at the White House, which means that today is jobs day at the White House,” Biden said before signing an executive order “to meet the climate crisis for American jobs and American engineering.”

    Biden said “this executive order, it’s about jobs, good paying union jobs. It’s about workers building our economy back better than before. It’s a whole of government approach to put climate change at the center of our domestic, national security and foreign policy.”

    ——-

    Specifically, he said, “We’re going to harness the purchasing power of the federal government to buy clean zero-emission vehicles that are made and sourced by union workers right here in America.”

    Biden said his policies, including using federal purchasing power to buy electric cars, will mean “1 million new jobs in the American automobile industry.”

    He added, “We’ll take steps toward achieving my goal of 100 percent carbon pollution-free electric sector by 2035.”

    I hate him.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      That’s a lot of nuclear.

    • Muzzled Woodchipper

      I just love how DC is going about business as usual, as if the economy weren’t a complete fucking wreck.

      Except it isn’t business as usual. They’re piling economy wrecking measures like the GNDish BS and $15/hour minimum wage ON TOP of the destruction government has already caused with Covid policy.

      These fuckers are evil.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        They’re playing jenga with the economy. “it didn’t fall down when I pulled the last block out, so the economy is on a solid foundation!”

      • AlexinCT

        Why don’t you like our resident potato?

      • UnCivilServant

        He’s a little one-note.

      • AlexinCT

        Everyone has their quirks, man..

      • Agent Cooper

        What do you expect from a potato?

      • Mojeaux

        Re-planting is a-peeling.

    • leon

      Ahh. The ultimate premise of Socialism, “If you don’t have enough for everyone, no one gets any”

      • Rat on a train

        The end of the last school year was virtual without instruction because some children didn’t have capable computers or internet connections at home. They didn’t want those kids to fall behind the others.

  28. Rebel Scum

    CNN Politics
    @CNNPolitics

    Defeat in Texas shows how the conservative judiciary can thwart President Joe Biden’s agenda

    What are ‘checks and balances’? – CNN

    • straffinrun

      Checks and balances are illusions to keep you thinking there are checks and balances.

      • AlexinCT

        The media wants to be the only checkers & balancer, so they can tell the serfs that only when one side does it it is good and legal, while the other doing it is evil and illegal…

    • leon

      The Court packing is so deep. We need to throw out all the current sitting judges and remake a system of tribunals that will govern equitably in favor of social justice.

      • Rat on a train

        We don’t need separate courts. The Top People in the executive can do the judging.

    • AlexinCT

      Remember when Obama appointees saved us from evil Trump-Putin-Hitler’s rule by the pen?

      Yeah, memory holed…

      These people have no fucking shame.

    • Chipwooder

      They loved this stuff when it was Hawaiian judges poking at Trump

    • PieInTheSky

      Texas really should secede and ban immigration from california

  29. The Late P Brooks

    Biden said, “We are going to create more than a quarter-million jobs to do things like plug in millions of abandoned oil and gas wells that pose an ongoing threat to the health and safety of our communities.”

    Can we stuff you into one?

    • Rebel Scum

      “We are going to put a lot of coal miners out of business.” – Some vile creature

      I do see this sentiment ironic considering that they are pushing solar and how solar panels are made. (you need coal to heat and combine quartz and coal, which seems less efficient than just burning the coal for energy…)

      • robc

        He is trying as hard as he can to lose the senate in the next few months. Keep that up and Manchin will be forced to party jump for his own political safety.

      • Viking1865

        I wish. The vast majority of people have completely forgotten how much gasoline and heating oil cost even 10 years ago. Office Prog 4 drives a big ol truck, she was bitching mightily about how gas has shot up. Fuck you bitch, you got exactly what you voted for.

      • AlexinCT

        I pointed this out just recently to some people that mentioned gas up here in the North East had shot up some 25 cents in a 10 day span…

      • robc

        It doesn’t matter what the vast majority think. West Virginians know when coal is getting killed and they vote that way.

        Back when the Ds were fine with coal, it was a safe D state. Anti-coal has turned the state to the Rs. Manchin survives by being that old school type D (even though younger), but he knows what he has to support. He can be as left as he wants to on economics and what-have-you, but if he turns on coal, he is out of office.

  30. OBJ FRANKELSON

    I listened to the Sargon’s stream this morning and he made what I thought was a very apt parallel between Robin Hood and the Harris/Biden administration.

    Slow Joe = King John from Robin Hood
    Camel-ahhhh = Sheriff of Nottingham
    Orange Cartoon Villain = King Richard

    I am a bit iffy on the last one, but Biden is sure as hell acting like a usurper.

  31. straffinrun

    Your government and your media is lying to you. Your schools are lying to your children. Seriously, is it anymore complicated than that?

    • PieInTheSky

      I sadly do not own a government. They own me. But yes. Then again most Romanians don;t have many delusions the government is not lying. Sadly, their solution is a bigger better government that is honest just like Denmark and will magically come about. Suggest libertarianism and they look like you are insulting their family./

      • straffinrun

        As an American, let me tell you the similarity with being an expat and an exhusband: you pay a lot not to be fucked by someone you don’t want to be around anymore.

      • Animal

        Mrs. A and I have actually discussed this. We have pretty much decided that if things got fucked enough for us to ex-pat, we’d probably try to get into Japan. Hell, we’d love to just come back for a visit, if they ever open back up again for tourism.

        Hopefully the Great Land will stay sane enough to last out our lifetimes. We’ll see.

      • R C Dean

        As an American, let me tell you the similarity with being an expat and an exhusband: you pay a lot not to be fucked by someone you don’t want to be around anymore.

        My planning always looks at the path to citizenship in potential expat locations. If we move there and intend to stay, I plan to be a citizen. In Uruguay, its three years as a permanent resident (if memory serves) and you are eligible.

        Which will allow me to renounce my US citizenship, and stop paying alimony to the US. At least under current law.

        Our retirement income is also heavily tax-sheltered, so our US taxes will be considerably less than if I was working and getting paid taxable wages. Extracting our assets from US tax shelters so they are “domiciled” overseas will be an interesting exercise, that I haven’t really looked at yet.

    • db

      When everyone is being lied to and realizes it, it becomes easier to lie, oneself. A society based on lies can’t stand for long, it seems.

    • Rebel Scum

      I was recently told by a leftist that I “believe lies”, am an “extremist*”, and “support insurrectionist and terrorists”. No accusation was supported with any evidence. When I queried for the persons rationale the person ended the conversation.

      *Apparently labeling oneself as a “strict constitutionalist” is “extreme”. Though I suppose this is technically true since extreme is a relative term and relative to people that believe there are no limits on the government our positions are necessarily extreme with regard to one another.

      • straffinrun

        Honest question, no snark, how would you get back to the constitution as you envision it?

      • Rebel Scum

        I don’t knw that there is a viable option. Leftism is too entrenched. I am open to suggestion.

      • AlexinCT

        The “deprogramming efforts” (forget about the constitution, and focus on social justice!) to make so many believe what was not so, of the last 4 or so decades in public schools and media, are not going to be reversed without first seeing a real bad spell and likely bloodshed…

      • straffinrun

        Advocate for the type of society you believe is right. There never was any other choice.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        A summary of a recent interaction:

        “Libertarians are bad because they provided cover for Trump.”

        In short, because I insist on following the Constitution and respecting individual rights, I got in the way of their political objectives. Therefore I am evil.

      • Tonio

        Worse than that, Scruffy. It’s a sin of omission, not of commission. Because you did not actively oppose BAD ORANGE MAN, you are just as bad as the rioter(s) who beat that capitol policeman, or the guy who ran over that woman in Charlottesville.

      • Chipwooder

        Indeed. It’s a logical extension of the way the left warped the concept of tolerance from “live and let live” to “everyone who doesn’t enthusiastically support this is a horrible bigot”.

      • Agent Cooper

        “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

      • R C Dean

        We are now to the point where expressing doubt about election security or government COVID mandates is “insurrection”, because you are “challenging government authority”.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      There are worse ways to go out.

    • Animal

      Well, if you’re gonna go…

    • The Other Kevin

      Something to aspire to.

    • AlexinCT

      What? No Kung Flu?

  32. The Late P Brooks

    “you can’t use executive orders unless you are a dictator.””

    -Joe Biden (2020)

    “It’s good to be the dictator.”

    -Joe Biden (2021)

    • Rat on a train

      He looks like the piss boy.

  33. Scruffy Nerfherder

    #$(*^&^&^!!!

    14 year old girls are a PITA.

    Passive-aggressive, dramatic, generally irritable with monthly rage sessions PITA

    • Rebel Scum

      That doesn’t go for women of all ages?

      • KromulentKristen

        ?

        I broke up with my last boyfriend because he invited drama into my life. He felt like it wasn’t “real” unless there was drama & conflict.

      • UnCivilServant

        That’s just stupid. I’d rather be around people I get along with and don’t end up with drama events. I don’t need that kind of stress.

      • KromulentKristen

        And he was a 50-something year old man, for fuck’s sake.

        Like I said yesterday, I ain’t looking for a fixer-upper. I’ll just be on my merry way.

      • Tulip

        Ding ding ding. No fixer uppers. They are adults and can fix themselves.

      • Festus

        ‘Allo Ladies!

      • Fourscore

        This is the reason I like UCS

      • Rebel Scum

        That is the opposite of what is good.

      • KromulentKristen

        Yeah. And I was more rational at 14 than he was at 50. That’s why he got kicked to the curb without remorse on my part.

    • PieInTheSky

      yes I no longer hit on 14 year olds myself, 17 or more

    • Chipwooder

      My daughter is mercurial enough now at age 10. I am terrified of what she’ll be like at 14.

    • straffinrun

      12 year old here. I’m just trying to keep her from being a complete asshole through her child bearing years. I’m failing.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Buckle up.

        On the bright side, Number One Son just apologized to me for being such a deranged shit when he was a tweener. It wasn’t really his fault because of some medical issues, but he recognizes that he was extremely difficult to deal with.

      • Viking1865

        “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”

        ― Mark Twain

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^So much THIS^^^

      • Fourscore

        You’ll be amazed at the 20 year old daughter. What a difference after high school and they merge into reality, be it college or the work force. We were probably as insufferable to our own parents. I think my parents were happy when I left and they were happy to see me when I returned because they knew I’d be gone in a few days. Baby birds need to learn to fly and they do.

    • Nephilium

      Advantage to not having kids. I can tell the kids to quit their bitching, and walk away.

    • Mojeaux

      My XX is 17.5 and getting ready to strike out on her own into the world within the next 6 months to a year. She is not going to college; instead, she’s chosen an IT trade track and is starting training as an intern at a software company today. She also has her job at Walmart where she’s been for almost a year now.

      I’d like to say it gets better, but really only the stressor changes. I’m just sitting back and biting my nails that she can launch successfully. There’s still drama, but she’s not home enough for it to get too bad. Her attitude about chores and her responsibilities as a member of this family and a person who lives here sucks, though.

      In short, the drama remains; the type of drama changes.

  34. Rebel Scum

    Pass.

    Gun control activists from Michael Bloomberg to Joe Biden have been demanding the introduction of “smart guns” into the civilian market for years now, but the technology has proven to be much easier to use in concept than in the real world. That might change now that Kansas-based firearms manufacturer SmartGunz has announced the release of a 1911-style 9mm “smart gun” later this year.

    The SmartGunz 9mm Sentry uses an RFID chip which is contained in a glove that must be worn by the shooter in order for the gun to fire. In order to use the pistol, the operator not only has to wear the special glove, but must depress a “safety activation switch” before the gun is ready, which the company says “ensures each SmartGunz firearm fires each and every time when it is supposed to AND ONLY when it is supposed to fire.”

    • PieInTheSky

      “smart guns” are the ones you print yourself on your own 3D printer

    • leon

      I don’t know how that makes this simpler.

      When seconds count, you just have to put the glove on.

      • WTF

        It’s introducing unnecessary complication and possibilities for failure into a product and situation where you want the minimum number of possibilities for failure.

      • Viking1865

        That’s a feature, not a bug. They absolutely love the talking point that “a gun in your home is more likely to kill a family member than an intruder”.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        That’s what she said.

      • db

        No such thing as concealed carry when you have to have that glove on.

      • juris imprudent

        put the glove on

        UCS will be the prime market segment for them?

      • UnCivilServant

        Lords, no.

        RFID? You must be daft.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Fuck that company for even trying to build that shit.

    • db

      The assholes who made this need to be bought out and shut down. This is the same thing as people who chambered a handgun in .50 BMG back in the ’90s so that steel core AP ammo couldn’t be imported anymore (see, IIRC, GHW Bush’s order banning importation of steel core ammo that could be used in handguns).

      • WTF

        Yeah, this will provide an opportunity for anti-gun states to require all privately-owned firearms have “smart” technology. Probably with some kind of option for the authorities to be able to access and disable the gun remotely.

    • Agent Cooper

      The z makes me think they are so cool! Can’t wait to get a Thanos-themed glove!

    • Rat on a train

      How about a pendant instead of a glove?

  35. The Late P Brooks

    The SmartGunz 9mm Sentry uses an RFID chip which is contained in a glove that must be worn by the shooter in order for the gun to fire. In order to use the pistol, the operator not only has to wear the special glove, but must depress a “safety activation switch” before the gun is ready, which the company says “ensures each SmartGunz firearm fires each and every time when it is supposed to AND ONLY when it is supposed to fire.”

    Let the UN peacekeepers test it. And the cops.

    • WTF

      Cops will be exempt. Because reasons.

      • Tonio

        And then we will see an uptick in people murdering cops for those guns. Which will lead to more repression and police state tactics.

        Also, an uptick of cops mysteriously losing their weapons.

  36. KromulentKristen

    Hobbit: the mail forwarding service I’m looking at (Escapees) will just send your mail wherever you tell them. Just go on your account with them and update your address. They also have lots of other live aboard RV services.

    There’s lots of people living on RVs full time with a wealth of knowledge. It’s doable with the right setup & support

  37. leon

    The very possible big upside i see to this r/wallstreetbets thing.

    This is something that at least initially to me, didn’t seem political. It seemed like a way to screw the big guy and fuck him over for making a bad bet. But now you have All the corporate press calling them “unsophisticated” and calling it out, the major trading plaforms getting together to try to stop it and people calling on the government to do something. Oh and a lot of people saying that if you were into this you must be some Trump/Russian stooge.

    It seems like it would wake up a lot of people to the perfidy and perniciousness of the coprorate press and establishment. I wager that many of those people who now have lost r/wallstreetbets were not fans of Trump, but now they see how easily their special places can get destroyed and they get smeared as Public Enemies.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Yeah, it just seems like it was initially a bunch of trader gamers who were pissed that someone was trying to wreck what was at one point at least an important institution relative to their lives. Those types might already trend a little to the right of the general public but I’ll bet they trend a good bit righter (or maybe populist is a better description) now.

      • robc

        Initially it was a typical WSB story. Guy makes insane investment, posts about it, and everyone makes fun of him for a year as it looks like he is an idiot, especially so for not bailing. Then it starts to go positive and they call him an idiot for not cashing out. Then it goes more positive and he is starting to make real money and everyone starts cheering him on as most WSB threads end in disaster. And then someone else points out that a short squeeze will take down some hedge funds. And people pile in to make it happen. All it took was pushing the stock from $15 to $35 to get the ball rolling. A bunch of naked call writers had to buy to cover the calls that were expiring last Friday and that pushed the stock to $65. And that kicked off the short squeeze and suddenly the shorts were getting hammered.

        The fact that it was GME only makes the story more ludicrous as everyone sees the flaws in the company. Except DFV, he thought it was undervalued at $8 and that buying $12 calls for 20 cents was a good deal. If you watch his videos on youtube, it is the kind of company he likes to invest in. Near bankruptcy but with comeback potential. He wants a 4 or 5 bagger.

        Instead he has so far turned 53k into about $40MM.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Ah, so it being Gamestop was a happy accident then.

      • robc

        Pretty much. Although it might not have got the traction it did if it had been some random company.

    • creech

      My financial advisor says the hedge fund guys might have lost publically, but they have sophisticated methods (parallel funds, etc.) and they are still shorting GameStop and will make tons of money when the “unsophisticated rubes” start to bail on what is, essentially, a bankrupt retail company.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Stop harshing my buzz bro.

      • robc

        Are they bankrupt? Before this they had enough cash to cover debts. And if they sold any shares into this up market, GME should have a nice war chest for shifting their business model.

      • AlexinCT

        I bet your financial advisor is just parroting the talking points because they are desperate to have this group cash in and stop already so they can go back to fucking us all over. Don’t trust these people. Scott Adams has a great take on the whole “financial advising” business model. I for one started doing my own shit, and I have done better in the decade since I stopped paying insane fees to some asshat that was primarily about making commissions for himself and made better choices than they had. And I am by no means anything more than barely educated in the field of investments and finances.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        ^This over and over again. Financial advisors are just conmen lining their pockets with your money. The simple 3 fund index portfolio recommended by John Bogle beats anything a financial advisor puts together and has virtually no management or operating expense.

        Recommend reading A Random Walk Down Wall Street.

    • robc

      Yep. Being reddit it is a strong assumption that they were anti-trump, although there are pockets or reddit that are different. But wsb is mostly millennials and younger, and I could see a push to the right over this.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Don’t underestimate their capacity to be able to correctly identify the problem and choose exactly the wrong course of action to correct it a la Bernie Sanders.

      • robc

        Yes, I agree. Although I will give WSB credit on that. They didn’t call for regulation of crony capitalists, they are choosing to just bankrupt them by playing the game as it is set up.

      • invisible finger

        Which will trigger regulation – and they know it.

      • AlexinCT

        They will need another tax payer funded bailout?

    • Idle Hands

      I’m of two minds on this, either these people are starting to get really terrified of this precipitating a huge market correction for some reason or there are really really moneyed and blueblood investors who are way overleveraged.

      • AlexinCT

        Why not both?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        This basically boils down to “The serfs don’t get to rule the kingdom.”

      • robc

        The main hedge fund in trouble only had $12B in assets before this began. Its a drop in the bucket of the total market. Scruffy got it right, “the peasants are revolting”.

  38. Festus

    Sort of OT – I mentioned that I was on the receiving end of a flurry of e-mails and texts from head office last night insisting that I complete some on-line safety courses ASAP. Well, come the morn I get one of those “You go get ’em, Big Guy!” actual phone calls from the head of OSHA at the company. Yeah, whatever. I get up mid afternoon, dutifully complete the power points and go along with my day. Comes to be about 9:30 this evening and I get another call. They want me to drop everything, head to another site, suit up like a spaceman and start spraying poison about. “We’ll make it worth your while!” Fuck. The sprayer and PPE are still in the box, unopened. No training, no nothing and they expect me to drop my clients to go and potentially poison myself and others with unfamiliar equipment in an unfamiliar setting for a couple hundred bucks. Jesus Christ on a candlestick. It was then, that the gears finally meshed. They wanted that on-line shit done so they would be immune from legal action should anything go wrong. The presentation mentioned the “why” of PPE but did not even touch on the “how”. My “supervisor” tried to reassure me that I would be “walked through it”. They got a big old NOPE from me and had to farm the job out. Duplicity, thy name is C&W Services! Fooking Cuntes.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Crap. Sorry Festus. Getting railroaded never feels good.

    • AlexinCT

      Kabuki…. Or is it Bukkake?

      • Festus

        Both. I get to wear the costume and still endure the deluge. Win/win!

      • Festus

        My favorite Bukkake scene -https://youtu.be/HB2bsp5yiWc?list=PLGWCePdgnqHzpXUtZztk9z76gvYvhhJ5W

      • Festus

        Hhttps://youtu.be/HB2bsp5yiWc?list=PLGWCePdgnqHzpXUtZztk9z76gvYvhhJ5Wuh

      • Festus

        fuck a duck. Time for bed.

    • KromulentKristen

      I had read that there were ~3000 variants. My understanding is that mutations are a good thing, as viruses figure out how not to kill their hosts.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s more along the line of living hosts spread more viruses, so less lethal strains have an advantage in propigation. If you regard viruses as life forms, it’s natural selection in fast forward.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Yeah, it’s more along the lines that they tend to fall into the qualities that are advantageous to propagation although the occasional unlucky roll of the dice can cause particularly nasty strains to arise.

      • KromulentKristen

        Well, yeah. They’re not sitting around having brainstorming sessions. But, like you said, the ones that can propagate the best, quickest, most genetically sound will “win”.

      • Drake

        Gradually morphing from something as serious as the flu and more contagious when it first came out of the lab, down to a common cold. Impossible to really vaccinate for or control the spread in any meaningful way. Just an annoyance.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Even more of a reason to concentrate on effective therapeutics rather than vaccines even though that ship has sailed already.

    • Tonio

      Viruses, like everything else are constantly mutating. And the benefits, or detriments, of those mutations happen immediately. The reproduction cycle is hours or minutes and the number of virus particles (they aren’t really organisms) is huge. We think of mutation (evolution) taking a long time because with large organisms the reproduction cycle is often years so it takes a lot longer for good/bad traits to be reinforced or culled.

    • Idle Hands

      70% isn’t going to care at all in about 3 months. We’ll all be left catering to the insane 30%.

  39. The Late P Brooks

    We can impose order on the world, if we just let Top (Wo)Men pull the strings

    In 1990, Raworth, now 50, arrived at Oxford University to study economics. She quickly became frustrated by the content of the lectures, she recalls over Zoom from her home office in Oxford, where she now teaches. She was learning about ideas from decades and sometimes centuries ago: supply and demand, efficiency, rationality and economic growth as the ultimate goal. “The concepts of the 20th century emerged from an era in which humanity saw itself as separated from the web of life,” Raworth says. In this worldview, she adds, environmental issues are relegated to what economists call “externalities.” “It’s just an ultimate absurdity that in the 21st century, when we know we are witnessing the death of the living world unless we utterly transform the way we live, that death of the living world is called ‘an environmental externality.’”

    Almost two decades after she left university, as the world was reeling from the 2008 financial crash, Raworth struck upon an alternative to the economics she had been taught. She had gone to work in the charity sector and in 2010, sitting in the open-plan office of the antipoverty nonprofit Oxfam in Oxford, she came across a diagram. A group of scientists studying the conditions that make life on earth possible had identified nine “planetary boundaries” that would threaten humans’ ability to survive if crossed, like the acidification of the oceans. Inside these boundaries, a circle colored in green showed the safe place for humans.

    Throw off the chains of Kkkapitalism, Comrades. Divest yourself of false consciousness and greed. Live your life in glorious service to Society and the Collective.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      nine “planetary boundaries” that would threaten humans’ ability to survive if crossed

      Sounds like a bunch of externalities to me.

      • db

        Can’t be true. There are only eight planets!

      • UnCivilServant

        Don’t be silly, there are at least thirteen.

    • leon

      It’s just an ultimate absurdity that in the 21st century, when we know we are witnessing the death of the living world unless we utterly transform the way we live, that death of the living world is called ‘an environmental externality.’”

      The absurdity is that you think you have a leg to stand on when talking about science, yet spew this bulshit.

      • AlexinCT

        Science is whatever is necessary for me to peddle my dogma, you fucking heretic!

    • Chipwooder

      In the U.S., Portland, Ore., is preparing to roll out its own version of the doughnut, and Austin may be close behind.

      Reading that one sentence, even if I hadn’t seen a single other word from the piece, tells me all I need to know this is something I don’t want.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Let me guess, we are all going to have to change our way of life to save the planet. Stop traveling, stop consuming, stop everything.

      But the second part of my guess will be that this woman wont have to make any of those changes for herself. Not that she wants to stop traveling to conferences in swanky places, or eating at fancy restaurants or living in a big house. No, but her work is so important she has to continue doing those things to save us all.

      But she is fully behind your efforts comrades!

      • Animal

        But the second part of my guess will be that this woman wont have to make any of those changes for herself. Not that she wants to stop traveling to conferences in swanky places, or eating at fancy restaurants or living in a big house. No, but her work is so important she has to continue doing those things to save us all.

        To each, according to their “needs.”

  40. juris imprudent

    Encourager les autres?

    “George, you’re forgetting who you are,” Paul concluded. “You’re forgetting who you are as a journalist if you think there’s only one side. You’re inserting yourself into the story to say I’m a liar because I want to look at election fraud.”

    That’s really beautiful, isn’t it? Imagine Rand not as President, but as the next McConnell.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      George hasn’t forgotten who he is. He knows exactly what his role is.

      • db

        Paul’s just being polite, repeating the fiction that Stephanopolous is nothing more than an impartial journalist, in order to show it is, and always has been a lie by contrasting his behavior with that expected of a truly impartial observer.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        And. Pointing out hypocrisy is not effective against these people or their supporters.

      • db

        True, but getting loud and calling the other guy a liar and a shill doesn’t convince anyone new, either. Paul’s letting Steph do the shouting and accusing.

      • AlexinCT

        They see hypocrisy as a plus, not a negative.

      • juris imprudent

        Pointing out hypocrisy is useful to others, even if not for the benefit of George or those who lick his ass.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Oh I get it, it was a nice dig.

      • db

        True

    • leon

      I’ll admit i Like Rand, and generally don’t like the way his speeches go. But this apperance was really well done by Paul. Snuffulupagus could only keep coming back to “But the results were certified”. Which had nothing to do with what Rand was saying. Things that were illegal were done by secretaries of state, and those should be reviewd so that it doesn’t happen again. You can’t yell “ELECTION FRAUD DIDN’T HAPPEN NAHANAHANAH I CAN’T HEAR YOU” and then wonder why no one listens to you when they have already made up their mind that their is something fishy going on.

      • juris imprudent

        IMO, the mistake being made by our most negative faction here is that there are people that can be reached by this kind of approach. They think it takes Trump-like bluster – which doesn’t make the other side back down one bit of course. Calmly winding down as someone else goes hysterical is better (again IMO) than escalating into shit-flinging with someone who wants you to appear deranged.

      • db

        Exactly. When your opponent controls the information channels and can use your words against you, your best course of action is to be calm and reasonable. Let them do the shouting and lying. Don’t get caught doing it yourself, because that’s all anyone in the general public will ever hear out of you.

      • kbolino

        I used to be blue-pilled. I read Moldbug and was flummoxed. I said “there’s no such thing as culture” or something roughly equivalent. If you were to go back and dig through my old posts on H&R, you’d figure out I was an idiot and an asshole (to be fair, those are both still true, just hopefully to slightly lesser degrees). It takes time, but people can be convinced.

      • Idle Hands

        I agree, I guess where we differ is I find demagogues are useful as well.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    Did you hear the one about the guy who shot himself?

    A snifflecootie test fell out of his ass.

    • UnCivilServant

      And they used the picture of one with the derpiest expression I’ve seen on a tiger.

    • Rat on a train

      There anti-tiger rock is a fake.

  42. robc

    GME down to $300 at open.

    And RobinHood is now restricting trading in GME. You can close a position you already have, but that is it.

    Basically, they are saving the shorts from complete disaster by preventing buying to squeeze higher.

    • robc

      IANAL, but I would think a class action lawsuit could easily be won against RH and TDAmeritrade and anyone else restricting trades.

    • leon

      If any SEC investigations need to happen, it should be of the Brokers… But i imagine this all happened at the direction of the SEC.

    • Nephilium

      I saw reports that Schwab and AmeriTrade both halted trading on GME as well.

      • robc

        Yep, I think Ameritrade was first. But Robin Hood is the big deal because lots of the small time WSB guys use it. Its where people who have never invested before were going through.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Fidelity still looks like a good guy.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    “George, you’re forgetting who you are,” Paul concluded. “You’re forgetting who you are as a journalist if you think there’s only one side. You’re inserting yourself into the story to say I’m a liar because I want to look at election fraud.”

    Yeah, right.

    Going from the White House propaganda machine to a “major news network” was just a lateral move in the DNC ecosphere.

    • Tonio

      “Remember your place, sir.”

  44. The Late P Brooks

    More Dunkin Donut ec onom ics:

    Policies aim to protect the environment and natural resources, reduce social exclusion and guarantee good living standards for all. Van Doorninck, the deputy mayor, says the doughnut was a revelation. “I was brought up in Thatcher times, in Reagan times, with the idea that there’s no alternative to our economic model,” she says. “Reading the doughnut was like, Eureka! There is an alternative! Economics is a social science, not a natural one. It’s invented by people, and it can be changed by people.”

    Aaaand done.

    Wasn’t there another model available for analysis, in the bad old days of Thatcher/Reaganite Dog-Eat-Dog-ism? You know, one in which a powerful central government made all the decisions about the organization and function of the economy? I wonder what ever happened to them.

    • Viking1865

      Kulaks, wreckers, and saboteurs ruined it.

    • kbolino

      Economics is a social science, not a natural one. It’s invented by people, and it can be changed by people.

      This is like “race is a social construct”. Just because you put the word “social” in there doesn’t mean you can change everything on a whim. Economics, dating back to Adam Smith if not earlier, is an observational study of human behavior. That is what is meant by “social science”. It is not “natural science” because humans have free will while rocks don’t. But the possession of free will is not equivalent to the malleability of human nature. Humans will in the aggregate still take statistically similar actions given the same scenario regardless of whatever you think “can be changed by people”.

      • Animal

        Humans will in the aggregate still take statistically similar actions given the same scenario regardless of whatever you think “can be changed by people”.

        Hari Seldon agrees.

      • kbolino

        The folly there is conflating short-run behavior in constrained scenarios with the entirety of human existence. A 99.9% certainty still leaves a 0.1% chance remaining, and thanks to the law of large numbers that means things will change over time. Every once in a while, along comes a Rockefeller, Carnegie, Gates, Bezos, etc. and upsets the whole apple cart. Thus endeth the buggy whip manufacturers. But put a constraint on the supply of gasoline and people will still behave largely the same as they did when the supply of horse feed was constrained. That some things are strongly predictable doesn’t mean everything follows a deterministic trajectory.

      • Not Adahn

        Hell, even Asimov realized that The Mule was a possibility.

      • Animal

        There’s probably an essay in that; Trump as our Mule. Without the telepathy, but still.

      • juris imprudent

        This is why The Nature of Economies by Jane Jacobs is such a good read and relevant.

    • leon

      “Reading the doughnut was like, Eureka! There is an alternative! Economics is a social science, not a natural one. It’s invented by people, and it can be changed by people.”

      People who talk like this inevitably end up justifying liquidating millions in order to get their “new” system to work.

  45. robc

    And GME is over $440. Until about 9 AM, it was there in the pre-markets. Then suddenly it dropped into the $200s, and opened about $300. Something funny was going on trying to drive the price down. But apparently it can’t be stopped at this point.

    • AlexinCT

      They are restricting purchases and only allowing people to sell down…

      • kbolino

        Our overlords have decided that GameStop must lose value, and how dare the peons question it. Even if short selling is amoral rather than immoral, the people who allegedly are supposed to understand this seem intent on proving it false.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Seems like everyone is determined to rip off the mask and facades they’ve built up. Keep on rolling, 2021.

      • robc

        And yet, it is still going up.

      • R C Dean

        I suspect the big players are now in the game. The retail brokerage houses can shut down retail investors, but not the big players. Its a feeding frenzy, and the sharks are eating the bleeding shark.

  46. DEG

    As employees of the U.S. House of Representatives, we don’t have a vote on whether to convict Donald J. Trump for his role in inciting the violent attack at the Capitol

    Go fuck yourselves.

    Nasdaq CEO Adena Friedman told CNBC Wednesday that the exchange monitors social media chatter, and will halt trading if they match the chatter with unusual activity in a stock.

    Go fuck yourself.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Driving prices down is good when it benefits certain people and driving them up isn’t good when it benefits certain people. Only approved quasi scams are allowed.

    • leon

      Hey lay off on the dictator. Its not good that we micromanage and scrutinize every use of his supreme authority.

  47. The Late P Brooks

    Ding ding ding. No fixer uppers. They are adults and can fix themselves.

    Now, when you say “fix”…

  48. The Late P Brooks

    People who talk like this inevitably end up justifying liquidating millions in order to get their “new” system to work.

    You know how you remove and discard parts when your beautiful perfect machine breaks down?

    Same thing.

  49. The Late P Brooks

    The stock exchange runs on belief. Kind of like “full faith and credit”.

    Like when the audience claps to save Tinkerbell. Clap, you bastards!

  50. Rebel Scum

    Rising tides lift all boats…so we need to sink most of them.

    Appearing before a question and answer session conducted with ‘Great Reset’ architect and founder-chairman of the WEF, Klaus Schwab, Mr Macron said that while capitalism has historically driven down poverty globally, he claimed that it came with the cost of furthering inequality.

    “We will get out of this pandemic only with an economy that thinks more about fighting inequalities,” Macron said.

    “The capitalist model together with this open economy can no longer work in this environment,” he added.

    The French president pronounced that capitalism has resulted in a “deep moral and economic crisis” in which “hundreds and thousands of people throughout the world had this feeling of losing their usefulness.”

    • Rat on a train

      If you throw everyone into the water you still need to handicap the good swimmers.

    • leon

      Sure people aren’t living in abject poverty anymore, but there are rich people. I’d rather you starve.

      • The Other Kevin

        Better that we all starve equally, than everyone having a full belly and some people getting dessert.

    • mrfamous

      The Great Reset is a ‘conspiracy theory.’

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      As long as everyone’s equally miserable it’s all good but then some of the most supposedly equal societies are actually the most stratified. How does the average guy in Cuba live compared to a high placed party official I wonder?

  51. Sean

    I just got a notification Fenix Ammo has 9mm in stock.

    I’m not buying any at $620+/1k though.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Sixty+ cents per in bulk no less? Uh uh.

    • Cy

      You could always buy some GME!

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      I have a bunch of Pmags out for delivery today. My backordered $400/1k order of 5.56 was supposed to ship next week but just got pushed back again into March. We’ll see if it ever materializes… was originally supposed to ship last October… but I’m not charged until it ships so doesn’t hurt to hold it.

  52. The Late P Brooks

    The French president pronounced that capitalism has resulted in a “deep moral and economic crisis” in which “hundreds and thousands of people throughout the world had this feeling of losing their usefulness.”

    Learn to build guillotines.

    • kbolino

      Why is it that when they succeed it’s due to “smart governance” and when they fail it’s due to “capitalism”?

      “Bad luck” is always somebody else’s fault.

    • PieInTheSky

      being a serf tied to a manor made you feel totes useful

      • leon

        I see you had the same “History of Economic Thought” class that i did. That is a part of Marxian Philosophy that i can’t get past. Arguing that the serfs were _better_ off than the laborers in the cities. Almost all of it is that they point to the enclosure movement and extrapolate that all migration to the cites was caused by it.

      • UnCivilServant

        I believe this is rooted in the base misconception of marxism – Laborers and serfs have no agency, so there is no pull from opportunity, only a push from above.

        If that were true, a centrally planned utopia would be possible. Instead, it causes them to draw the wrong conclusions from the same set of data.

      • PieInTheSky

        the enclosure movement did not happen worldwide

      • leon

        I know, but try telling a marxist historian that.

  53. Not Adahn

    Apparently the people who give out the marchnig orders have no idea WTF to make of GME. NPR had two differing stories about it. one compared it to OWS. Neither mentioned any interference by Reddit/Discord/Brokerages, etc.

  54. The Late P Brooks

    The ratchet goes “click”

    About 300,000 Canadian citizens who reside in Hong Kong and hold citizenship there will no longer be able to be citizens of both Canada and China.

    The move comes after the government in the region denounced dual nationality to citizens there, meaning those who hold more than one passport won’t be able to access consular protection unless they declare a change of nationality.

    Hong Kong has long been a place where foreign nationals could come and go without many restrictions, which in turn has attracted international businesses to their growing economy. Lynette Ong, a professor of political science at the University of Toronto, says the move is about tightening control over what people residing in Hong Kong can do, particularly if they’re politically active.

    “If they were to do something to break the law but happen to have a passport from a Western nation, they could seek refuge in another country, which would put pressure on Hong Kong and the Chinese government,” she tells Yahoo Canada. “It’s another instance of tightening control over potential subversive behaviour in Hong Kong.”

    Surprise, Hong Kong snuggles a little deeper into the CCP’s loving embrace.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      This was inevitable, those people need to get out while the getting’s good as they’ll be marked for future persecution and scapegoating as well.

      • Suthenboy

        and go where?

        it looks like we are going full ccp here at breakneck speed

    • Cy

      Another overly ignored example of communists crushing capitalists with an iron fist. I remember reading the articles about how Hong Kong was going to revolutionize the CCP and China and be some beacon of freedom. Well, it took 20 years, the CCP is going to get their girl and use her until she’s just a husk of her former self.

      • robc

        Can we just offer to build a replica HK off the coast of….lets say, South Carolina, and just move them all there?

        Beaufort would be a nice location. Pritchard’s Island is empty.

      • robc

        Daws Island might be even better.

      • Rat on a train

        Building on California’s Channel Islands would be a change of weather, but closer reflect the political environment.

      • Suthenboy

        eventually socialists always run out of other peoples money

      • db

        Yes, but the other people run out of it first.

  55. Certified Public Asshat

    Robinhood: Keeping Customers Informed Through Market Volatility

    We’re committed to helping our customers navigate this uncertainty. We fundamentally believe that everyone should have access to financial markets. We’re humbled to have helped many people invest in the markets for the first time. And we’re determined to provide new and experienced investors with the tools and resources to help them invest responsibly for their long-term financial futures.

    • mrfamous

      I’d like to think this whole thing will open up a lot of people’s eyes, but I’m a bit of a pessimist.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      help them invest responsibly for their long-term financial futures.

      Yeah, fuck off. You’re hired help. Start acting like it.

      • straffinrun

        Bam. They deserve that.

      • robc

        I like that, perfect comment.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I assume there are at least some people who owned Gamestop for whatever reason that weren’t mixed up in this and now they can’t sell either but Robinhood was OK with them being shorted into oblivion but now they can’t sell. What, are they only allowed to take manipulated losses? Fuck that shit.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I hope somebody sues robinhood into oblivion for that.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I’d be willing to bet that a bunch of working stiffs that work at/own the stores are in exactly that boat because of company stock ownership programs and the like and they’re really getting stiffed.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Ah, explained below that isn’t happening but they’re still allowing manipulation in one direction but not the other.

      • robc

        They are still allowing people to sell.

        Just not buy.

      • mrfamous

        If I was one of those people, I’d have gotten out a couple of days ago. Once something like this goes down and I’m not involved on either side, I’m out. No sense in trying to play a game you haven’t been invited to.

      • leon

        How can you sell without someone there to buy?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        The hedge fund can buy it all up to offset their disastrous shorts. (until the price crashes in a week and they’re out double)

      • Chipwooder

        I’m just a dummy whose understanding of the stock market is confined to a single finance class I took in college, but how is that any less manipulative than what the Reddit guys have done?

      • Mojeaux

        It’s not. They’re covering for their buddies and circling the wagons around the system.

      • kbolino

        You see, the Right People are the ones doing it, and it will help The People Who Matter.

      • wdalasio

        What’s the whole “mixed up in” part? The hedge fund shorts have been hammering Gamestop and a few other names for months now. That’s their right. But, they clearly oversold it. And got caught in a short squeeze. There’s nothing nefarious about it. They should take their lumps and live with the consequences.

        My bet is at least some of the folks at Robin Hood have connections to hedge funders and they can’t stand the thought of their buddies taking a hit.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Sounds like Robin Hood answers to a hedgefund name Citadel who handles their trades. Citadel bought out part of Melvin and are getting hammered.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      I think Schwab is still allowing buying/selling.

    • robc

      Prediction: Robin Hood goes out of business before end of 2021.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        I think so too. They served their purpose by moving most brokerages to free trading, but pissing off your customers to appease a few suits isn’t going to work for them.

  56. The Late P Brooks

    Don’t underestimate their capacity to be able to correctly identify the problem and choose exactly the wrong course of action to correct it a la Bernie Sanders.

    *polite applause*

  57. The Late P Brooks

    Root out the heretics and unbelievers

    An online petition called for the removal of American Sign Language (ASL) interpreter Heather Mewshaw from the White House’s daily briefings after her support for former President Donald Trump was uncovered in videos posted online.

    White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki announced Monday that ASL interpreters would be a part of the administration’s daily news briefings. Psaki introduced by her first name. According to analysis published Tuesday by Time Magazine, Mewshaw was an administrator for a group of ASL interpreters that provided translations for some videos that espoused right-wing ideals. A petition started Monday on Change.org began gathering signatures to ban Mewshaw “from interpreting White House again.”

    “The White House announced they include ASL interpreters for daily briefings to show they are inclusive,” the petition read. “Out of many ASL interpreters in DC/MD/VA, they unknowingly hired a notorious Trump supporter, Heather Mewshaw, to interpret for the White House briefing, January 22, 2021. The Deaf Community is outraged when they saw her presence.”

    The petition described Mewshaw’s actions as “unethical and harmful to the Deaf Community at large.”

    Lock her up!

    • hayeksplosives

      Good grief, the deaf community is a vicious and intolerant one.

      Woe betide anyone who provokes their wrath.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        A small but loud and whiny sliver of the deaf community is vicious and intolerant but it’s the squeaky wheel that gets the grease.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        THEY’RE LOUD BECAUSE THEY CAN’T HEAR, BIGOT!!!11!

      • UnCivilServant

        The National Technical Institute for the Deaf shares a campus with my Alma mater, so there were plenty of deaf students around.

        The loudest fights were between deaf couples, who would stomp on the floor so that the other person could feel the vibration as emphesis.

      • Mojeaux

        You should hear them scream every time a deaf baby gets a cochlear implant. I’m not even plugged into that community and I can hear it.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        That’s crazy, it’s like getting mad over a pirate getting his peg leg. What’s wrong with improving basic function?

      • UnCivilServant

        The baby is robbed of the true deaf experience and is not part of the community.

        /I shit you not

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        My neighbor who’s deaf has a booming system in his car so he can feel the music and he’s told me he’d love to be able to hear so he could really hear it. I’m sure he’d jump at the chance but he’s ineligible for the cochlear implant for some reason. The people who are against that are nuts.

      • UnCivilServant

        I think it’s only viable for certain types of deafness.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Much of the victimology as virtue BS that is commonplace today got a trial run in the deaf community.

      • WTF

        That’s like opposing a cure for spinal cord injuries because it diminishes the paraplegic culture and community.
        It’s fucking insane.

    • Viking1865

      Feel the Unity and Healing. The only thing the government wants from Trumpists is their tax dollars, and their sons to fight in Syria. Their opinions and values are not needed.

    • Agent Cooper

      “The Deaf Community is outraged when they saw her presence.”

      Sorry, what was that?

      • Not Adahn

        *applause*

    • Rebel Scum

      Unity. Healing. Reconciliation.

    • WTF

      Making different political opinions forbidden is a really fucking dangerous game. So far the right has remained relatively peaceful because people still have too much to lose. But make it so that their political affiliations cause them to lose their livelihoods and be driven from society at large, and suddenly you’re throwing them into the “what more have I got to lose, may as well fight” camp.

    • kbolino

      unknowingly hired a notorious

      I don’t think you understand how notoriety works.

  58. juris imprudent

    Yay! The adults are in charge in the Pentagon again.

    • hayeksplosives

      It’s all pert of the mission to purge history of the Trump administration.

      They’re going back to find Mrs Trump 75 years ago and do a Sarah Connor on her.

      • leon

        Only to be thwarted by a hat and some disembodied wig…

      • Agent Cooper

        LIGHT THE SUGAR FREE BEACON!

      • limey

        UH, THAT’S MRS. DRUMPF YOU DRUMPFISTA TRUMPTARD FASCIST!!!1 HAHAHA WHAT A STUPID NAME HAHAHA

        I never understood what was so funny and or supposedly wrong with the whole thing about the ancestral name change. It’s not so unusual. Steinweg, anyone? John Oliver is a miserable, smirking little creep.

      • leon

        Malice has pointed it out. The blue pilled have two modes :Smug Condecension and Outraged, and they will flip between them instentaneously.

        See Parlor. They were smug when it got kicked off AWS, but then when it got back online they were outraged that it was able to continue on.

      • Chipwooder

        John Oliver doesn’t seem to have a problem with his old boss, Jon Leibowitz, who you know better as Jon Stewart.

  59. The Late P Brooks

    We’re committed to helping our customers navigate this uncertainty. We fundamentally believe that everyone should have access to financial markets. We’re humbled to have helped many people invest in the markets for the first time. And we’re determined to provide new and experienced investors with the tools and resources to help them invest responsibly for their long-term financial futures.

    tl;dr- Stop calling it a casino!

    • hayeksplosives

      “ We’re humbled ”

      They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.

    • wdalasio

      Yeah. A casino usually maintains pretty scrupulous rules that the people who win playing by the house rules get to keep their money and those who don’t lose. Locking out new purchases is pretty much not that.

  60. Ownbestenemy

    A line I got to use today when my software/adaptation went a bit south on part of the system

    “Why do you pay me good money to be knowledgeable on this system only to have me call for external support. Let me work the problem and when I have exhausted that, I will reach out”

    The response I got was “Well, you should have done it differently”. Screw off..it was resolved and fixed and I would still be on the phone with support if I went that way.

  61. The Late P Brooks

    KEEP FEAR ALIVE

    Covid-19 cases in the US may be trending in the right direction, but experts say there’s still reason to worry.
    For one, there are new variants circulating in the US that are threatening another surge and could make even everyday activities more dangerous.

    ——-

    In addition, there are bleak forecasts for virus-related deaths. January has already been the pandemic’s deadliest month in the US, with more than 80,000 people lost to the virus. And there could be another 84,000 virus-related deaths by February 20, a CDC ensemble forecast projects.
    Moreover, the country is still grappling with vaccine allocation and distribution problems. Only about half the vaccine supply that has been distributed in the US has been administered, federal data shows, and it could be “months” until every American who wants to get the vaccine can, one official said.

    The monster is out there. Lurking. Watching. Waiting to strike.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Excellent yet sad.

    • leon

      “We are always learning and evolving,” said the dictionary’s CEO Karthik Krishnan. “White supremacy is an ever-changing enemy, better understood as ‘anything we don’t like.’ We remain committed to stamping out all forms of white supremacy, and making sure icky internet trolls don’t get rich without our approval ever again.”

      Oof. this is too on point.

  62. The Late P Brooks

    And-

    Once Americans do receive both doses of their Covid-19 vaccine, they shouldn’t view that as a “free pass” to leave all safety measures behind — at least not yet — Dr. Anthony Fauci said Wednesday.

    Maximum immunity against the virus begins about 10 days to “two weeks and beyond” after the second dose, Fauci said during CNN’s town hall.
    But actions such as traveling are still not a good idea.
    “If you absolutely have to travel and it’s essential, then obviously one would have to do that,” he said. “But we don’t want people to think because they got vaccinated, then other public health recommendations just don’t apply.”
    That’s because, he said, some vaccinated people could still get infected with the virus and could possibly infect others. That’s why, he said, people should also still continue to wear masks.

    So what the fuck is the point of a vaccine, you senile quack?

    • leon

      Justice will demand that Fauci, Cuomo and Newsom answer for their crimes.

      • db

        Well, Justice is blind, so it won’t see them being ushered out the back door of the courtroom by their buddies.

      • Suthenboy

        justice? she seems to be on vacation lately

      • KSuellington

        I would love to see those bastards held accountable for the damage they have caused but I don’t think it will happen. Too many people still believe what the corporate media is shilling. Newsom may be recalled, but I think the execrable Fauci will never get the infamy that he so richly deserves. I’ve been doing my small part to help in the recall effort. Got one more signature yesterday and one of the guys that I got fired up about the recall chances last month just proudly told me he managed to get 25 people to sign the ones I gave him.

    • Chipwooder

      Lockdowns today, lockdowns tomorrow, lockdowns forever!

    • Pope Jimbo

      The vaccine is to save your life, rube.

      The mask is to demonstrate who can still be trusted to participate in polite society. If you didn’t wear your mask after getting your dose of The Cure, then you might accidentally be lumped in with the Domestic Terrorists.

      * My uncle was just telling us all that he will be getting his second shot in a few weeks. He had the Rona right around T-Giving. I didn’t have the heart to ask him why he thought he needed The Cure.

  63. creech

    Anyone want to buy this awesome tulip bulb? Only $1 million. Get them while they’re hot!

    • leon

      I know that trick!

    • EvilSheldon

      I suppose the whole idea of buying stock in companies based on profitability, is just lost to the ages…

      • leon

        It is kinda funny to see the mainstream get all “MUH FUHNDAMENTALS” when they havn’t given a shit about the asset inflation over the last decade.

      • db

        If it all goes to shit, they’ll be able to point at GME as the “root cause,” rather than the systemic weakness they have continuously contributed to for decades.

      • wdalasio

        If they gave a tinker’s damn about fundamentals, half the tech sector would be penny stocks.

    • wdalasio

      Except this isn’t really a bubble. It’s a short squeeze. No one is buying it on the “the price will just go up indefinitely” premise that defines a bubble. People are buying it on the premise that the short sellers can’t cover their position unless they take a bath. There’s nothing unethical about it. It’s one of the risks of short selling. Honestly, I find it contemptible that the traders are whinging.

      • db

        How much higher can it go? I have some cash sitting around. If I had bought in when I first heard about it (3 or 4 days ago), I’d be up 2-3x on a not-insignificant amount. It’s insane. Like, how much longer can this be a guaranteed profit for non-shorts?

      • UnCivilServant

        The only thing I can think of when reading about this is that when the correction arrives and the price falls, al lot of this mob will lost as much (in agregate) as the short-sellers they squeezed, if not more.

      • wdalasio

        I don’t think it can go much higher. And I doubt even a lot of the short squeezers do, at this point. If you’re buying in now, you’re hoping to scalp a few points before it turns.

      • Pope Jimbo

        If somebody at one of the hedge funds had discovered that a bunch of rubes had shorted Gamestop and decided to put them in a short squeeze would anyone feel any pitty for the rubes?

        Would the rubes be saved by regulators stopping trading?

        We all know the answer. The actions by the institutions and the regulators have made a bad situation worse. I agree with Brett that this is just brazenly showing the country that the game is rigged and there are two sets of rules. If you are a high roller you will be afforded a do-over.

      • Chipwooder

        If somebody at one of the hedge funds had discovered that a bunch of rubes had shorted Gamestop and decided to put them in a short squeeze would anyone feel any pitty for the rubes?

        Excuse me while I wipe away several tears of helpless laughter.

      • Pope Jimbo

        How about this one…..

        If the Rona for some reason really screwed over people living in the countryside, would NY have locked down in order to save the NoDaks?

        And if they hadn’t would they have listened to Noem when she freaked out and started scolding them for not caring about human life?

  64. Pope Jimbo

    Minnesoda teachers care so much for children that their union has filed a grievance against re-opening.

    Leaders of the Minneapolis teachers union have taken the rare step of filing an unfair labor practice charge against Minneapolis Public Schools, saying the district has refused to negotiate crucial safety measures for educators returning to in-person teaching.

    The charge, filed Monday, states that “the district has yet to negotiate over the critical terms and conditions of employment involved in a safe return to in-person teaching and learning.”

    The union is also asserting that the district revoked previously granted accommodations that allowed educators to work from home. The union says such a “unilateral change” to the collective bargaining agreements represents a refusal to bargain.

    If you go back to Don’s formulations on lost man-years, what is the number of teachers croaking from the Rona vs a teen suicide caused by lockdown depression?

  65. Certified Public Asshat

    and now Webull (robinhood competitor) is preventing buys.

    • db

      “Gee, I’m really sorry I bought this pallet of 5.56×45 back in March. What the hell am I going to do with this now?”

    • Mojeaux

      My buying changed insofar as toilet paper was or was seen to be scarce.

      • UnCivilServant

        Pre panic, my reserve stock was however much was left in the package, buy when on the last two rolls, have one emergency reserve roll in the cabinet.

        Now I look like a toilet paper hoarder because of the lead times in actually getting it, so I have to increase the stock on hand to avoid unfortunate circumstances.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Yup. We have probably 6 months worth of TP now and are working on our stores of other non-perishables as well. Got caught with our pants down amid a cross-country move, but we won’t let that happen ever again.

    • EvilSheldon

      Several guns, ammo, a new reloading press, body armor, some video games, and a bunch of kink gear?

      Yeah, I’ll check for regrets, but I don’t think I’ll find any…

  66. Pope Jimbo

    Minnesoda has solved the Rona crisis in the meat packing plants!

    Turns out the fix was more money (other people’s of course) and new govt positions!

    This proposal creates a brand new “Workers’ Rights Coordinator” position housed within the Department of Labor and Industry (DOLI) dedicated to enforcement and compliance. This individual would be given the ability to investigate and prosecute violations of workers’ rights with the help of the attorney general, a district attorney, or any city or county attorney.

    The proposal also includes a section dedicated to addressing and preventing COVID-19 outbreaks that have occurred at factories in Minnesota. It requires employers to provide personal protective equipment (PPE) at no cost to employees; allow meat and poultry processing workers adequate break time to sanitize and wash hands; routinely clean and disinfect all frequently touched surfaces, workstations and training rooms; and provide paid leave to all meat and poultry processing workers to recuperate from an illness, injury or to care for an ill family member.

    I’m sure that some as important as the new Worker’s Rights Coordinator will need a staff, suitable offices and other support.

    I also like how they try to hide the bit about paid time off to workers in the midst of a long list of reasonable requests (that employers probably are already doing).

  67. KSuellington

    Looks like the dip is happening right now with GME. It helps that all of these trading platforms are preventing buys right now. Rooting for those crazy Reddit commenters to make Melvin and other hedgers take a well deserved bath.

  68. Nephilium

    For those flying, security lines are really short. And half the bars and restaurants aren’t even open.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Last time we flew, my son beat us through security as a normie. He said the guy didn’t even bother asking him for his ID. Just looked at his boarding pass and sent him on. Son also said he forgot to remove a lot of his electronics from carry on and no one made a fuss.

      The Pre-Check line was still demanding ID’s so the wife and I got through later. To be fair, the Pre-Check line also had one elderly couple who were fucking things up by general ineptitude.

  69. Pope Jimbo

    From my article on meat packing plants I linked above:

    “Everyday myself and my coworkers put our lives on the line when we go to work,” Antonio Jimenez, UFCW Local 663 member who works at JBS in Worthington, said. “I was here at the plant when the COVID-19 outbreak happened. No one ever wants that to happen again. This legislation is about safety, not just about me but for all the meatpacking workers in the state.”

    If the GOP had any trolling skills, they would be proposing that meat packers be given The Cure before teachers.

    95% of teachers are white and 70% are women. The Teacher’s Union would have no ability to sit quietly if they were snubbed by being ranked below meat packers. The optics of a bunch of white women demanding to cut the line in front of poor hard working minorities would be awesome.

    • leon

      But meat packing sounds like a huge sausage fest, so they will just claim it’s part of the patriarchy.